A new vision for Malden Center

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    A new vision for Malden Center

    Forget about the proposed ballpark to replace the current National Grid site in the center of Malden.

    Why can't the MRA, the city administration, and any related agencies come up with something like what is going to take place in downtown Quincy?

    http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2012/01/17/beal_cos_signs_on_to_quincy_center_redevelopment/?comments=all#readerComm

    You want to talk about something masterful, long-lasting, and visionary? Now we're talking...

     
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    Re: A new vision for Malden Center

    Malden can have all the new visions they want but lets face the reality of things. Malden hasent done anything in the past 25 years  to bring in fresh businesses that are worth spending money on....especially downtown. Again look at Somerville's Assembly sq...It's going through a major renovation that will certainly bring in more revenue to that city, What does it take for Malden to get motivated?? 
     
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    Re: A new vision for Malden Center

    Other
    The MRA and the administration is well informed of what can go on that site. At the gathering, it was mentioned many times that the proposed location of the ball field site is a brown field. This means that the soils in that area are contaminated. The nationalgrid site and the adjasent old junk yards would cost a fortune to excavate and fill compact the area around deep foundations, Quincy's plan. The plan for this site is to cap the brownfield, probably with a structural slab. Because of the structure, shallow footings, minimal soils removal. The field will be raised 3' above grade for drainage, and will act as a buffer from the brown field.
    Hey, my family and i have been in malden for 100 years. Not one of us has a job in this or any administartion in malden.  Believe me, this will be the best thing that could happen to Malden.
     
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    Re: A new vision for Malden Center

    fscib52:

      I'm afraid the developers have not done the proper homework analyzing the surroundings of that site and Malden Center. Have they seen what the center has become over the years? It's almost a ghost town now, with empty storefronts, and the majority of businesses being dollar stores and nail salons!

       If they want to attract visitors to attend the ballgame, they need to consider the surrounding environment and have businesses and attractions in place to make people want to stay afterwards and spend money. Sadly, we don't have any of that stuff currently in place in Malden Center, and I don't think it's going to be a case of "if you build it, they will come...". We only have two high-end restaurants in the area, that are worth spending money on, besides the nail salons and dollar stores. Tell me what else is worth visiting, shopping, or browsing in downtown Malden?!?!?!

       So, if the soils are contaminated, does that mean that we cannot bring in any other type of business, besides a ballpark? I don't buy that argument.

     
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    Re: A new vision for Malden Center

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    You make a very good point. I can agree with everything you mention, but this owner has done his homework. And i hope his plan suceeds.
    There will be a first class restaurant open all year. This complex will be huge and hopefully will attrack businesses.
    As far as the brown field goes, trucking off contaminated soils is just too expensive for any business to go to that location.
    Don't get me wrong, i am still pissed off about the blue bags. I hope this admin does business out in the open just like this stadium plan. At least it is not another section 8 high rise. This stadium idea is a winner.
     
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    Re: A new vision for Malden Center

    FSCIB52----First ----It will take up to 3 years build if everyone signs to it and gets EPA Approval.
    Second---It will only be used for the most Part 6 months a year
    unless they have high school or collehe teams play on it.
    Third---At present there is no Major League Affilation being associated with this Park which brings us to exactly how many people will attend these games. [ How many teams are in the
    league they mention] Profit vs Loss at end of year
    The idea is maybe right but we should look at other areas of
    revenue that site can produce and make Malden a great place
    to visit and live.
     
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    Driver, it is not going to take three years for this ball park to get built, more like a year and a half. And do you really thing the parties involved didn't look at other areas of revenue for this spot? National Grid OWNS the site and BOK is the only one who has answered the call for business proposals.
    Again, the land is not owned by the City of Malden and won't be if/when the ball park is built.

    Anotherman, I hate it when people call Malden Square a ghost town! I used to think that way too until I got a job down there. I go out on my lunch hour and Pleasant Street is full of foot traffic. Maybe not like when Jordan Marsh was there but I wouldn't know because I am not old enough to remember that.

    You ask what is down there besides dollar stores and nail salons? Did you know Malden still has an old time cobbler and a tailor too? They must be doing something right since they have been in business for half a century!
    What about Sparks? Nobody ever thinks to shop there but they are still in business so they must be selling their stuff to somebody. If you had a kid in private or charter school, you would be a regular customer of Sparks.
    What about the comic store? I used to work with a Superman junkie that drives down from Salem to Malden to visit that comic store. It's not my cup of tea but they are still in business.
    Also, I have my eyeglasses made in Malden Square right next door to Paula Terenzi Dance Studio, two other businesses that have been there for decades.

    You may not frequent any of these particular places but please look again at Malden Square before you incorrectly call it a ghost town.
     
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    Re: A new vision for Malden Center

    GetActive:

    The glass may look half-full to you, but, from my personal experience, downtown Malden has declined for the past ten years that I have lived here. Remember Lady Grace store? That has closed shop. And what about McDonald's, at the corner of Main St? They moved out too, for crying out loud. There used to be a mattress store next to Malden High on Rte 60, and that closed its doors too! What about all the empty storefronts in the city center?

    For every business that you put in your list, I can come up with a similar list of businesses that have closed shop or moved altogether.

    If you think the best Malden can offer in terms of clothes shopping is Sparks, then you are right on, because the growing population of section 8's in this city don't deserve any better than this.

    Yes, foot traffic there is in Malden center, but look at some of these folks walking around, maybe half or more of them look like junkies, or drug addicts (oh wait, there is a sober house just around the corner...) or people on welfare.
     
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    Re: A new vision for Malden Center

    Drive, i saw the construction schedule. Completion date is 3/13/2013.
     
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    FSCIB52-----I made another suggestion ---A Movie Theater Complex it is a year Round Venue and also bring businesses into our city.

    The Redstones if invited would considered the site but the MRA is being blind and deaf on this other option.

    On Your Time Line is just a plan nothing is written or agreed to, than the different studies have to be done and explained to the citizens.

     The Movie theater idea sounds like a great place to start it is
    a revenue type business the city needs not a stadium only available for 6 to 8 months a year.
    This stadium is not big enough revenue venue to invite Concerts with Major Names coming to Malden.

     
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    Re: A new vision for Malden Center

    When it comes to concerts there are always acts that would be willing to play stadiums like this, of course they won't be the biggest names out there. But I think there would be a happy medium between what acts play the Garden and the acts that play Government Center.
     
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    Re: A new vision for Malden Center

    drive
    This brown field will be an issue for any developer who would have use for this site. I worked on a site that was designated as a brown field in Worchester, Ma. The EPA was involved. We hired a LEP, licenced earth person. Estimated cost was $120,000 to remove the contaminated material. This EPA hack agency, another liberal waste of our tax dollar, escalated the cost to $350,000 with the classified material being trucked to Maine and Michigan. The owner hit the roof, but was forced to continue the project.
    Bok has his bases covered. that site will be capped with minimal material trucked away.
    the redstone people are too sharp to get involved with that site.
     
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    We need to clean up the riff raff around there for this project to work.  I hope the Mayor is on these boards and reading all our concerns.  I can't not beleive the class of people that walk around and hang out all day and night at malden center. I watched a junkie urinate behind the bushes the other day, he was so messed up on drugs, it was scary. 

     We need to start with the sober homes and the meth clinics, get rid of them.  We need to stop the section 8 vochers, how many do we need in one city.

     I can't imagine how those dollar and junk stores in malden square survive.  They must be a front for illegal activity, because no one shops in them.
     
    We need to add  more police and maybe you will attract the type of people you want to shop in our downtown area and support this new stadium.

    There is nothing i want more than to see Malden rise up again to what it once was.  I believe it can, but not without major changes. 
     
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    Thorne is right. This could be the start of the clean up.
    I have ambitions of going to those games and watching one of our own take the field. Malden has always produced great talent on the diamond. People like Rotundi, frecker, stracia, cap, biscan, mezzonson, herta, moro, too many to mention, develope great talent in our city. What an incentive to have a local kid take the field.
     
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    hawthorne3:

    You hit the nail on the head with your comments. I cannot imagine revitalizing the downtown area just with the construction of this ballpark. It has to be a multi-faceted approach involving the following:

    1. More money to MPD to put more officers on the streets to combat crime and truancy.

    2. Close down the sober homes and meth clinics to clean up the area of all the riff-raff hanging around that engage in criminal activities.

    3. Attract more decent quality businesses to fill the empty storefronts in Malden Center.

       Without these above initiatives, I don't think the stadium business will be a sustainable one, since there will be nothing else to attract visitors and residents to hang around Malden Center before, during or after events at the stadium.

       After watching the video of the presentation on the city website, the team of developers stresses the "wonderful family outing experience and quality time" when the ballpark is developed. Well, I can assure you that this kind of experience will not be there, if the stadium is built, if the downtown area is not cleaned up of the riff-raff hanging around, and more quality businesses are opened in the area.
     
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    I hope this gets done.  I wil buy tickets to the game and enjoy the restaurant(s) that is built there (did I mention as long as it is not another Dockside).

    It's a great first step and so much better than more apartments or strip mall
     
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    Re: A new vision for Malden Center

    Forget the ballpark,...time to be competive, a better use of this land would be to build the mall of Malden, with NO dollar stores, no ethnic stores  (limits buyers) ect....simply add many anchor stores, classy resteraunts and specialty shops.  Why should we have to travle toSaugus/Burlington/Medford ect...to spend our money...
     
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    Laurie 19---Your right about something different at that site, i mention a Movie Theater Complex which brings in other businesses and it is year round and cheaper than the prices at
    a Ballgame. "when last time you went to a Redsox Game and notice what the cost of everything is" The MRA has not put out
    bids on this site and someone should investigate why it is a closed department with very little information being offered from it. Maybe the Mayor or his Cronies should open their eyes
    and ask the Redstones who own many theaters accross this Country and I feel would build in Malden. Maybe the citizens should contact the Mayor Office and ask when will someone 
    ask the Redstones for their advice. Make the Phone calls now!

    We should act now before a Casino is built at Suffolks Downs and businesses go there. 

     
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    [QUOTE]Laurie 19---Your right about something different at that site, i mention a Movie Theater Complex which brings in other businesses and it is year round and cheaper than the prices at a Ballgame. "when last time you went to a Redsox Game and notice what the cost of everything is" The MRA has not put out bids on this site and someone should investigate why it is a closed department with very little information being offered from it. Maybe the Mayor or his Cronies should open their eyes and ask the Redstones who own many theaters accross this Country and I feel would build in Malden. Maybe the citizens should contact the Mayor Office and ask when will someone  ask the Redstones for their advice. Make the Phone calls now! We should act now before a Casino is built at Suffolks Downs and businesses go there. 
    Posted by Driver54[/QUOTE]

    Driver54:

    After reading the following article from Malden Patch (http://malden.patch.com/articles/mayor-developer-respond-to-globe-column-on-stadium), I get the suspicious feeling that Mayor Christenson and the MRA are already in cahoots with the developer of "Boston Field of Dreams" to build the stadium. Now, I don't know if the developer made any promises to them and/or if he lined up their pockets, but it sounds like this is already a done deal and that it is just a formality for National Grid to come to agreement on terms of a lease.

    So, I don't think residents calling the Mayor's office would help sway things in another direction...
     
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    Re: A new vision for Malden Center

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: A new vision for Malden Center : Driver54: After reading the following article from Malden Patch ( http://malden.patch.com/articles/mayor-developer-respond-to-globe-column-on-stadium ), I get the suspicious feeling that Mayor Christenson and the MRA are already in cahoots with the developer of "Boston Field of Dreams" to build the stadium. Now, I don't know if the developer made any promises to them and/or if he lined up their pockets, but it sounds like this is already a done deal and that it is just a formality for National Grid to come to agreement on terms of a lease. So, I don't think residents calling the Mayor's office would help sway things in another direction...
    Posted by anotherman[/QUOTE]


    you are right. Remember the other three parcels needed for the ballpark (mentioned in the article)? The city notified those businesses they would be taking the parcels by eminent domain months ago. The call for proposals was a show and perhaps required by law. Yes, it does bring up questions about why a done deal and how malden operates. Christenson is well aware of all of this and supports taking the land by eminent domain.
    Remember when Howard/Malden/Mystic valley something took land by eminent domain for Telecom City/ oops mass housing? That family won a 5 million lawsuit against the city.

     
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    Re: A new vision for Malden Center

    It just goes to show you - it doesn't matter who you elect - things change, but they always stay the same.
     
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    Porkshop-a-go-go---What do think about a Movie theater being built
    there and how it gives a place where seniors and children can go when it bad weather. The other is what type of businessed will a
    movie theater bring to the city versus a ball park only can be used 6 to 8 months a year and the Park will not have a Major league Affliation that is needed.  Your right change people but the ideas stay the same-----National Amusement Inc.Com and see how many
    theaters they have operating  again what is your view on the matter.I Asked the Mayor and Council President but it seems that they are part of the backdoor deals Malden is use too, without any
    Public Input. I only speak the truth another Backdoor Deal!
     
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    Re: A new vision for Malden Center

    I'm not sold on a movie theater either - that's a dying industry right there.  Who has the money to go to the movies anyway?

    Putting in a second-run theater, like the Capitol in Arlington, that's a different story.

     
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    A minor leage baseball ticket is cheaper than a movie ticket, I certainly would go to the games. Look at the stores and restaunts that are attached to patriots place. This could be something like that on a smaller scale. There is a movie theater, restaurants, shopping and entertainment there. No reason why this ballpark could not be something similar
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: A new vision for Malden Center :
    Posted by fugghedaboutit[/QUOTE]

    would love to see a movie theater, but face it, the malden we're all looking to revisit is long gone

     
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