Confronting The City

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    Confronting The City

        When you are fighting for what you want in a city, you need to play politics. What I see is threats and disrespect. No one seems to have a plan. So in reality no one is better then the City when it comes to certain issues.


        Respect is the key. When you have an issue you need to confront them with respect. If you do not do that they will shut you down and in time be blackballed from future meetings. We all want to be respected even if we do not agree with ones ideas.


         Threats will not work. They do not work at all. So that has to stop.


         And stim money everyone is talking about needs to be OK'd by Gov Patrick first. Then the Mayor can call for it. Just like after 911 HLS was giving money to different states and the mayors had to prove why they needed the money FROM THE STATE. So if Patrick did not call for money, the Mayor cannot either.


         Now as an activist, I believe in Peaceful debates. You want to battle a city, do it with respect so you get more followers and attention. With out respect you have no leg to stand on. To play the game, be in the game. 



    Guy Fawkes 

         
     
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    Mr Fawkes---your right about respect it is a two way street, when putting Proposals in front of the Mayor and City Council they should of discuss it either in committee or at a Public Hearing, which they never
     did.Again this week Vice President talked about the Stimulus Money
     (shovel Ready projects) than the President visited Ohio where cities
     received 80 Million Dollars, Somerville received Stimulus Monies to fix Washington St and Somerville Ave. Where is our Money to fix our streets? than under Homeland security budget other cities have received funds for Police and Fire personel why did we not apply for this money---we have two(2) stations that stop in our city.
     Again--when you ask questions you desreve an answer from our
      elected officials.  Maybe it is because i am a Democrat.Laughing
     
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      Mr. fawkes do some research and see how much money Boston, Cambridge, Logan receives every year from the Homeland Security
     Budget----What does it take to ask for x amt of money-------
     If This city investigated federal web sites there is money available;Smile
     
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    Mr. Fawkes, you don't by chance know of any abandon railway tunnels that go under city hall do you?

    Having already had my own credibility questioned on these discussion for having a more moderate opinion than some others, I appreciate and completely agree about respecting others opinions and its even MORE important to do so when they are not respecting yours in a public forum.

    With regard to highway/roads Stimulus money, there was $438 million allocated in Massachusetts under the ARRA and it has all been obligated as of February 2010 (Malden got none), meaning there is none left for Malden to request.  (This was how the Somerville/Washington St. project was funded.)  You can see how this money was spent here:  http://www.massdot.state.ma.us/recovery/counties.aspx

    So unfortunately, FArenella, if you didn't provide you proposals to the city by the end of last year, the money was likely already spent before the city could have acted on them.  Since it took me 5 minutes to research this, I don't know why any of those you sent them to couldn't look this up and give you this answer.
     
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    Here is an even more complete picture of Mass. Stimulus spending by town:  https://arraprweb1.itd.state.ma.us:8443/mapapp/money.html. There's also a lot of information at http://mass.gov/recovery.

    Malden has been allocated $381 million of the $8.4 billion that went to Mass.  So far less than $10 million of that has been spent.  However, they couldn't get the money allocated if it was not for specific projects/activities.  Feel free to dig further, but the bottom line is that the stimulus money has already all been obligated from what I can tell.  I think its too late for new proposals.
     
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    You will never see HLS Come in and just hand the Police and Firemen money.


    Whats happening in Malden is a huge game. The Police do not want to pay out a Co Pay and the City wants them to. I believe the city is right on this one.


    Unions will do as much as they can for the Police/Fire like they should. And City will do all it can to save money like they should. This is a battle that I would have to side in with the city. And at first I didnt. But no one is going to get laid off. And if they do then the Police left will work harder!!!


    I am the biggest critic when it comes to Police and Politics. But whats right is right.


    And Danc, I dont know of any underground railways. Wish I did because I get alot of looks wearing this mask on the public streets.
     
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    Dan C and Tea party maybe i did not research enough, but even if I submitted the proposal this year why is it the this city will not request
     money early, do the design work, get the bids, and submit them before the end of the year. Again not one Councilor responded to
     my Proposals.
      The second idea is look at what Somerville( the mayor did) on his Budget--  8.1 million dollar deficit.
       he made chamges in City Hall, out sourced the custodian
    jobs but saved teachers, police and Fire positions, i have the aarticle
     From the somerville News--he has high health care cost also but
     protected the teachers,fire and police. Also he asking the city employees to Join G.I.C. health care plan--which only has a 4.5%
     per yr increase over last 5 years not 10%.
     Again--this Summer the Engineering/DPW should be doing the ground work for applying for Stimulus Money (Shovel ready Projects) they should evaluate the streets and sidewalks that need repair in Malden.
     
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    Farenella:  I don't understand what you think you can accomplish by constantly harping on the subject of your proposals, after a while everyone will tune you out and consider you a nuisance. You need to just get off the Stimulus subject. You gave the City your proposal, let it go now. I understand that you are an activist, but really, is anyone listening? I think if there were Stimulus Money available the City would have applied. It gets really old, and I can understand why none of the Councilors or anyone in City Government is listening.
    If you want to make a difference consider a run for Mayor.
     
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    The Feds only gave the state so much money.  Cities asked the governor for what the wanted last year (submitted proposals for what they would do with the money) and then the governer decided who he wanted to give the money to and gave it all away.  The cities have to use the money for what they already requested it for.  There may be some money left to ask for, but from what I researched it seemed like it was already designated for various projects.  I'm making a couple of logical assumptions here because I didn't find all of the information, so its possible I'm mistaken.
     
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     You did me Wrong---I am an activist--like I said--the Dpw&engineering should be doing their homework so they can submit
     request for stimulus Money starting next year. If you looked at what Somerville & Everett they plan ahead that is all I am asking.
     They are fixing streets, squares, and planting trees on Washington
      St..  What is Malden doing? I have not seen one street being repaired.
     Second I understand this Mayor is protecting is friends ---Look at what Somerville did with their Budget and how their mayor protected the Fire, Police,Teachers and asking that the city employees join the
     States GIC health care at 4.5% versus 10 % by Harvard Pilgrim.
     Third---I attend almost every meeting, (a) I have a heart disorder and might need the Fire /rescue some day;
     (b) who runs in to a fire and who puts out these fires--not you or I
     so we need every firefighter we have on duty now:
     
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    I have not looked deep into it, but I am prettttty sure if Logan needed money, HLS would give them anything because of what happened at 911. Massport would have to go to the State and the state would call HLS and BAMN money.


    Boston a major city, the same thing. Cambridge a city that was falling apart a decade in the making. That city needed help.


    Malden? IM not sure if you can really fit it into those three areas. Yes the roads are crap!!! New signs would be nice. Paint lines in certain areas. Raise drains and drop some side walks that are high. So much that can be done. But it takes time. Everything takes time. As an activist myself I know when to sit back, document the promise and wait to see if they are good on it. If not call them out on it at a later date with respect.


    Its like a game of Chess. I know your next three moves after this one move I make. So since you have sent them the info sit back and wait to see if they bite. Remember election time is coming soon.
     
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    Why do we need a Police Commisioner?
     
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     kathdunkin---Most cities do searches this is a retired City Worker
      why was there no search done, Again this Mayor takes care of his
      friends and supporters---How old was the last Police Commissioner
      and what is Salary of the Police commissioner, second if he is getting
      a pension is this not double dipping. 
      How old is this Police Commissioner, call the Mayor and ask his Office
      his age--you have that right under the Pubic Records Laws of 
      Massachusetts. 
      Again--Look at what the Mayor of Somerville did to save police and
      Fire departments jobs--He reshuffled City Hall Workforce.
      Please show up at meeting an complain.
     
     
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    In Response to Re: Confronting The City:
    "Why do we need a Police Commisioner?
    Posted by kathdunkin"

    We really don't need one, it is a political appointment. In smaller cities the police chief actually performs the same duties. Here are some of the responsibilities of a police commissioner.


  15. The police commissioner supervises the police force of the city, he is the go between the police officials and elected officials of the city. The police commissioner relates police recommendations or requests to the mayor and other elected officials in the city.He also institutes changes in the force that is implemented by governmental officials, such as mayors or city councils.
 
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      you didme Wrong---should the Police be younger than a former retired Police Officer, most citie advertise through a search for

     qualified candidates this was never done Why? the problem is this  

      Mayor does or appoints who either a friend or supporter which is

      Wrong: I like to know what other cities do and how they find their

      Police Commissioner ---Finally what is his Salary and does he stop collecting a pension? 

     
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    "Gennetti receives an annual pension of $48,659.40, according to Retirement Board Director Kevin Morrison. In 2008, the Commissioner received a $5,000 stipend, according to city records."


    I think Gennetti is a great pick for Commissioner, he has been in this City long enough to know how it's run. When you have someone like that why go shopping for someone else. I think Gennetti cares about this City.
     
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     You did me Wrong---he is probably the right guy for the job but what
      happens the next time, again there is a method that other cities
      follows -----My question--do we need one when Police and fire are about to be laid off----Like I tell people/neighbors how can Somerville
     find away to protect the Police and fire departments by readdressing
     employees in City Hall.
      Look I have a heart condition and have had Malden fire to my home
      twice with cataldo amb. service ---- and today i received
      information that is stressing me out, my wife is concern, two weeks
      ago my son had to take me to Mass Gen. Hospital because of the
      of my heart condition. I am on 4 different medications.

      Ask your friendly city Councilors what they did, maybe if I die they

      would be happy.

     
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    In Response to Re: Confronting The City:
     You did me Wrong--- Look I have a heart condition and have had Malden fire to my home   twice with cataldo amb. service ---- and today i received   information that is stressing me out, my wife is concern, two weeks   ago my son had to take me to Mass Gen. Hospital because of the   of my heart condition. I am on 4 different medications.   Ask your friendly city Councilors what they did, maybe if I die they   would be happy.
    Posted by farenella


    Farenella I think everyone has had first responders to their house for one reason or another. I would really suggest that if you have that many  problems that you should focus on your health before you get involved with all the politics, which I agree is very stressful. I don't know what my "friendly City Councilors" did, but I am sure that they didn't cause your heart problem. Again, focus on your health before you submit yourself to more stress.
     
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    Re: Confronting The City

    I believe in searching around for the best Chief,Commish ect. The only ones that do that Ive read are major cities with large crime problems.


    Does Malden have a large crime problem? I believe Malden does. But not like a Boston, Chicago, DC NY ect. Those are the ones that look outside the city.


    I do not like Butch that much. But he is known and a great figure head in the city. You wont find to many people that do not know who he is. He cares about Malden and always has. And he is about getting rid of crime. If he does it we will see.


    I am the biggest activist I ever met. My younger years I was a wild child fighting against Vietnam, This war, And (Danc you will like this) the British. As a High Ranking offical of the Tea Party I can not say that Malden at THIS time needs flash protests. Malden is in a rebuild phase that can last up to 5-10 years. After talking to MANY people about Malden, I can tell you that yes indeed it is crooked in some areas of city hall, but nothing that would shut down the city.


    "Choose your battle because the battle you might walk into might be a war with a mask on."
     
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     YouDidMe Wrong---had my heart test this morning more tomorrow
      at mass general----again it seems this city government can do no wrong in your eyes.
      My fight is that this City Council never disagrees with this Mayor
      whatever he wants he gets ----
      Most Cities there is alway disagreement and they hold Public   Hearings but not here.
      If you accept 10 police layoffs and 10 fire department layoffs
      maybe you will help put out the next fire or stop the next crime;
       But than you will run and hide or be afraid to help;
     
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     YouDidMe Wrong---again it seems this city government can do no wrong in your eyes.   ----   Most Cities there is alway disagreement and they hold Public   Hearings but not here.   If you accept 10 police layoffs and 10 fire department layoffs   maybe you will help put out the next fire or stop the next crime;    But than you will run and hide or be afraid to help;
    Posted by farenella


    farenella: Public meetings are held here too. Didn't we just have a PUBLIC meeting on the budget and one on water/sewer increase? Wow! I must be living in another city. I don't agree with layoffs of police and fire either, but sometimes people just have to give a little to keep their jobs, it's not like they make minimum wage like some people do.
    On another note, I never run or hide, I just choose my battles wisely.
     
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    YouDidMe Wrong----the public hearing only myself and a police union rep. talked-----where are the cuts in City Hall---Look at what Somerville did with an 8.1 million dollar deficit---the reshuffled City Hall
     Personel--outsourced the janitors jobs and kept all there teachers,police.firemen on the job. Also that Mayor asked the city Unions to Join the GIC Insurance plan--it rate is 4.5% where harvard
     Pilgrim is 10% yrly.See I live on a set income and know how to run a budget, I also have B.A. with my minor in Informational Technology,
     So I know this Mayor is Liar and his  Administration is hiding the
     real numbers. Maybe your a city Councilor who protects this Mayor?

     
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    YouDidMe Wrong----the public hearing only myself and a police union rep. talked----- I also have B.A. with my minor in Informational Technology,  So I know this Mayor is Liar and his  Administration is hiding the  real numbers. Maybe your a city Councilor who protects this Mayor?
    Posted by farenella


    So because only you and the Union Rep spoke that means there was no PUBLIC hearing? Why didn't the Police or Firefighters speak and fight for what they believe is the right thing to do?
    Why is it that whenever someone defends their City you think they are a City Councilor. What does a B. A. in Informational Technology prove? Does that make you a specialist on  who is lying in City Hall?
    No, it just means you know how to look up things on the computer. You think everyone on this discussion board is a City Councilor or maybe even the Mayor himself.
     
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     Youdidme wrong---again your wrong--I Majored in Business Administration and spent 27 years at Polaroid the last 11 years being
     supervisor of a 8 million dollar stock room before I took an early
     retirement plan-(4 weeks per yr) 1989, than i work at liberty Mutual
     for 5 years before become a private Chauffeur from 1994 to 2004.
     Drove some of the smartest people in business and asked questions
     that made me understand financial matters. Than i had a heart attack and cannot drive as a Chauffeur. I do a lot of reading and talk to many friends/politicians about what is going on in Malden.
     This city administration never looked at the whole picture but looked
     at who they can hurt the most. Answer this if we lose 10 firefighters
     how many engines go out of commission and how many firefighters
     per truck? than answer how many patrol cars are taken off our streets.
     Again looked at what Somerville did, the mayor saved Jobs:
     
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     Youdidme wrong---again your wrong--I Majored in Business Administration Posted by farenella



    farenella, with all due respect this is what you wrote in your last post.
    " I also have B.A. with my minor in Informational Technology, "
    I am very sorry that you have these health problems, and I do not deny the fact that you probably have worked with, and met a lot of smart people. You keep comparing Malden to Somerville and Cambridge which we are not. You talked about outsourcing janitors jobs for the schools, sometimes when you outsource it actually costs more money, or you can hire illegals which is against the law. The City will not lose one Patrol Car or Fire Engine, the positions that will be lost haven't even been filled yet. These are vacancies that will not be filled, plus the Union and City Hall play this game of "How far can I push the other side". I doubt either side will give easily, and what will happen is that the taxpayer will pick up the tab. In other words, Real Estate Tax Increase 2.5%, water/sewer tax, more money for trash bags and whatever else they can tax.
     
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