Annie, I have never had any dealings with Carol that I remember. However, I do acknowledge that I think you are a Kook!
Fallon and Charter Schools
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Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 11/30/2011 1:32 PM EST
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Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 11/30/2011 8:00 PM EST
Justice
You need to think long and hard about what you are saying. It is the liberal outlook on life that is killing us as a society. If that teacher chooses to make money in that seedy industry, thats his business. But in no means should he be near our children. If any school in the country new about his past, he would not have been hired.
Maybe he is a ped, maybe not, but why would anyone risk the possibility. I don't care if he is gay or not, but he evidently likes to display himself on camera for the whole world to see. To me, this is not normal behavior.
Don't let your liberal outlook stand in the way of a safe society.
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Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 11/30/2011 9:02 PM EST
FSCIB52-----Tonight channel 25 had more to the story, the movies were made over the last 18 months, My Question why
was this not on his Resume ---or did the Agency Representing him never told the School's Administration.
The other question listen to a the head of Massachusetts School
Committee spoke about a regulation that is followed by every
teacher and school committee --Why was this regulation overlooked by the Charter School in hiring this teacher.
Again I take with a grain of salt what channel 25 reports but after what is happening accross this state hazzing in North
Andover, and lawerence the take over of their schools, some
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Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 11/30/2011 9:06 PM EST
Justice and the rest of the liberal supporters, you should be ashamed of YOURSELFS. This nice guy chooses to expose himself to the world, deny the fact that he was not the actor exposing himself in imoral acts, then has the audacity to stand infront of and influence those innocent students.
Why do you think he chose to be close to those young kids.
Do we have to wait and see if this guy turns out to be another Jerry Sandusky.
You say the past is the past. This guy made those films in 2010. What is going to stop him from making more, or is there more that haven't been released. The past is now. He should go back to the industry and stay away from our youths. He has no business teaching our students. -
Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 11/30/2011 10:57 PM EST
First of all, I never said the school was at fault. So do not say that I did. Do you not read? I said that I totally understand why the school put him on paid leave. They have a moral obligation to the students to investigate this. They absolutely did the right thing.
I should be ashamed of myself? Really? Why because I believe that what this man did on his own time is his own business? If we knew the dirty little secrets of every teacher out there, we would all be shocked! I don’t agree with what he did, but it’s none of my business, nor is it yours! I am not getting the impression that this man hurt any kids. And your comment that he had the “audacity to stand in front of and influence those innocent students” is downright foolish! The man did no such thing! Where did you read that he influenced those kids with his secret life? Give me proof that this teacher did something wrong to these kids. If I am wrong, I will apologize. It appears to me that you are angry because he is a gay man. Did you know that I marry same-sex couples? Yup, 120 couples since same-sex marriage became law in Massachusetts in 2004! Bet this makes me a real bad person, ha? And guess what, I did not become gay by having so many gay friends either! It that makes me a liberal, than I hold my head up high!
Tonight many students from the school posted on Malden Patch defending their teacher! I give them so much credit for speaking their minds! They sound so much more intelligent than many of the adults. They want their teacher back. Another student started a Facebook page called “We-Want-Mr-Hogan-Back”. That says a lot to me about how they feel. Maybe the adults should listen to some of them.
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Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 12/1/2011 9:25 AM EST
@MAJusticeOfThePeace - That is a pretty moving testament to this man's ability to teach, and also to how his students feel about him in terms of the safe atmosphere of his classroom.
Everyone - and usually the most outwardly moral among us - has something in their past they've regretted doing or would not wish to come to light. It's been my personal experience that the more "moral" one touts themselves to be, usually the more it is they have to hide too. />:\
Starring in adult films absolutely does NOT make one any more of a candidate for pedophilia than someone who's led an otherwise blameless life. The assertion that porn star = pedophile is so patently absurd.
And BTW - I'm not a "liberal". I do, however, have a modicum of common sense which both conservatives and liberals (self-professed) seem to have lost some time ago. So quit this ridiculous handwringing already...
And to whomever compared Mr. Hogan to Jerry Sandusky - be reminded that Sandusky wasn't a porn star. He was simply a predator.
Grrr. My BP had been so nice and low since I stayed off of these forums. I should have known better. -
Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 12/1/2011 9:32 AM EST
Carol, I think you are spot on with the kids acting more intelligent.
It seems lately every hot button issue with this school, it is the parents that make a bigger deal than the kids. For example, recently the school sent a message to parents that juice or flavored water would only be allowed at lunch time, no longer allowed during either of the two snack times. Well parents got crazy about this, claiming that their kids don't like the taste of water, or need for it to be ice cold, or need for it to be lukewarm. ARE YOU KIDDING ME PEOPLE? This is why kids get away with 99% of the BS they try, because they have parents sticking up for them for the most trivial things, that when ACTUAL issues like this come up, no one knows how to solve them. -
Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 12/1/2011 10:28 AM EST
fscib52:
The way you connect Hogan to Sandusky is just mind-boggling. The allegations against the MVCRS teacher are not of pedophilia and child abuse. That's why the school is conducting an investigation into whether or not there was any improper conduct of this teacher in his professional setting, to get to the bottom of this matter.
For you to make this thing a liberal vs. conservative debate is just out of line. People just need to use more common sense, as hellgirl points out, and I think MVCRS is going about this the right way. -
Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 12/1/2011 11:32 AM EST
@JustinApinyen - Are you kidding me?! My daughter's pre-school only serves juice at meals - and usually, only at breakfast. I allow her two juices a day. After that, it's water or milk. What the Flock is wrong with these parents?! I mean seriously. Flavored water is water with sugar and artificial sweeteners. Most juice, especially in massive quantities, is also rubbish. Yet something tells me that these are the same parents who would get upset over the idea of their special snowflake being served non-fair-trade, organic goods otherwise.
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Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 12/1/2011 1:51 PM EST
TO ALL----PLEASE TELL THE CHARTER SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION IS NOW ON CNN AND HLN ABOUT THE TEACHER ------THEY DICUSSED
HOW HE COULD MAKE MOVIES THAT SHOWS GAY SEX AND THAN TEACH ---WHERE WAS THE SCHOOL NOW IT IS BEING DISCUSS ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL. MAYBE COUNCILOR KINNON AND THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES CAN TELL THEM TO STOP TOO JUST LIKE THEY DID
TO THE MALDEN EVENING NEWS. NATIONAL NEWS THAT WHAT
MALDEN NEEDS! WHO IS HEADING THE INVESTIGATION BET IT IS
NOT AN OUTSIDE BODY --KEEP IN IN THE FAMILY KINNONS! -
Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 12/2/2011 12:22 PM EST
Driver, you saying that he should have put the movies he did on his resume? lolol -
Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 12/2/2011 3:11 PM EST
Pats2012Champs; the same question that CNN & HLN & Fox National are asking how many movies did he make was it only
3 or more, why was his Mass Taching License rushed through
the process, Does Massachusetts not have teachers with the
same qualifications as Kevin Hogan. They also discussed WAS what went on Andover High about the Hazzing incident.
All he had to do WAS put on his Resume is he is Actor and belongs to the Actors Union.
iT SEEMS THIS KEVIN HOGN IS HIDING ALOT AND REMEMBER THE
MOVIES WERE GAY SEXUAL MOVIES, WHICH MEANS HE COULD
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Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 12/2/2011 4:37 PM EST
Driver, why don't you stop playing lawyer and leave this up to this man's attorney and the school's attorney! They will know what to do. That is what they get paid for. Unless I am wrong, I am not so sure that you should be the person who should be asking these questions.
Really, gay sexual movies would mean that he could of had sex with other men? No, you don't say! Maybe he was just happy and just gay as can be! You are unbelievable! Do you ever stop?
Who give a damn if he is gay! Get over it! -
Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 12/2/2011 4:49 PM EST
uh, you care that he is gay Justice.Others care that he is a porn star and was teaching kids.If he was a straight guy doing porn and teaching what would be the response. You sound like you are defending him becasue he is gay.I think a lot of people would not like a porn star teaching and coaching their daughters. -
Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 12/2/2011 5:05 PM EST
REMEMBER THE
MOVIES WERE GAY SEXUAL MOVIES, WHICH MEANS HE COULD
OF HAD SEX WITH OTHER MEN.
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Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 12/2/2011 5:13 PM EST
The question is. Does he have a license to teach?
How long has he been teaching?
Is he a good teacher?
Has be ever introduced the kids to porn?
Has he ever taught the kids that Gay is the way to go?
Has be ever done anything wrong other then hide the fact that he was in porn? It don't matter what kind of porn, as long as it was not kiddie porn. Driver is your issue that he is Gay? You know gay people? I do any they act no different then anyone else. Maybe he is not gay. Many fake it at the start of the career. If he faked it, then are you ok with it?
Fox 25 needs to fire this reporter.
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Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 12/2/2011 5:13 PM EST
Cantbreath,
My point is that this story is not about him being gay. This is 2011, and people need to get over that. It is not going to stop people from being gay. They are who they are.
And people like Driver keeps making that point. Why not just say he was a porn star? Period! Why does the "gay" factor have to be kept getting thrown into the mix? Porn is porn, and no I do not agree with porn. Gay or straight!
My goodness, if we were to look into everyone's closets, what would we discover? As far as I can tell from reading the posts on Patch and Facebook, from the kids who he taught, this man did nothing to hurt them. However that remains to be seen until the school is finished with their investigation. If he did hurt one of them, then by all means the man should be fired and more! But if he did not, my personal view is that he should not be fired. -
Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 12/2/2011 5:30 PM EST
I do not see anything on the CNN website Driver. Even did a search. -
Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 12/2/2011 6:54 PM EST
Pats2012 On Thursday both HLN & CNN & Fox National was discuss the Penn State, Syrcause, Florida AM and other schools with the Mystic Valley Charter School and again Anderson Cooper pointed out something is wrong in our Educational System and is the criteria on hiring and investigating problems.
They spoke about the two schools in Massachusetts MVCS anf
Andover on how these schools have gone into the close door
process where nothing is given to the public to read or understand what happen or how they can prevent it from happening again. Mr Anderson & Mr Politan feel kevin Hogan has done more than 3 movies. -
Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 12/2/2011 7:14 PM EST
MaJusticeofthePeace----I do not care what I was saying and trying to explain when reporters on a national level ask questions about Who he is, how many movies he really made,
what was his teaching certificate rushed through, and can he
teach again at that school. Mr politian of HLN who is following
all the college scandals feel that in Andover and at MVCS their
administration is hiding the truth and doing it behind closed
doors so the parents do not have a say in their process, which
is wrong and tells him that they are protecting their jobs also.
"THE TIP WAS FROM A SOMEONE WHO KNEW KEVIN HOGAN PAST AND HAS TIES TO THE SCHOOL & MALDEN."
SINCE TUESDAY THE SCHOOL HAS BEEN INVESTIGATING THE
TEACHER FOR 3 DAYS AND NOT ONE WORD FROM THE SCHOOL.
EVERYONE ASSOCIATED WITH MVCS WANTS THE CHANNEL 25 REPORTER FIRED FOR DOING HIS JOB ---- MAYBE IT TIME TO
FIND THE LEAK OR CHANGE THE PROCESS OF HIRING TEACHERS.
UNDERSTAND THERE IS A MORAL CLAUSE OR REGULATION THAT LIMITS THE RULES THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW IN THEIR PUBLIC LIFE.
JUSTICE DO YOU FEEL MASSACHUSETTS HAS QUALIFIED
TEACHERS AS MR HOGAN--WHY DID THE SCHOOL HAVE TO HIRE
SOMEONE FROM LA AND NOT FROM HERE, SOMEONE SHOULD
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Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 12/2/2011 8:30 PM EST
Not one word from the school???? Do you have a child that attends this school Driver??? I don't think so. What makes you think that the school is not speaking to parents about this? DO NOT ASSUME. And you of all people are speaking about morals??? PLEASE!
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Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 12/3/2011 10:37 PM EST
Maldengal---first I was only repeating what was talked about on the TV but again it seems in Malden the Stupidity is very
wide spread. look I really do not care if the school closes it doors tomorrow because I am worrying about my Health.
See I have collapsed 4 times in the last two weeks and my specialist only wants me to walk around the block until they can find out what is happening. My Two specialist ( one is at
Mass Gen. Hospital & the other is at Beth Isreal) have scheduled me for test this week and probably surgery shortly
there after. Tell your favorite councilors I have material in my
hands that shows how deep the corruption is in Malden and
what Councilors are part of the cover-up.
So to all i will only report on things that i feel need to be discussed, Oh the teacher will not return to his Job because it
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Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 12/7/2011 7:54 PM EST
To All; First wher is Councilor Kinnon seems he is hiding from this problem< I wonder why? Second it still has not be finalized
on a solution /> If he broke the Contract why has he not been fired as of today? Another question still not answerered is how
his license/certificate was rushed through the System. Who pushed the issue /> Someone is hiding the truth? -
Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 12/8/2011 7:06 AM EST
He has been licensed since 1998, I know your old, but that doesn't seem like a rush to me. -
Re: Fallon and Charter Schools
posted at 12/8/2011 11:44 AM EST
Driver54:
Did you hear that Mayor Mumbles just gave the eviction notice to the "Occupiers" in Boston? It looks like your pals at the "Occupy Boston" movement will have to leave camp or be forced out.