Talking about sex with a 12-year-old boy

Posted by Barbara F. Meltz  March 15, 2013 06:00 AM
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How do I talk to my 12 year old son about where bab[ies] come from and how his body will change as he getting older?

From: Melody, Cincinnati

Melody: Really? You really haven't talked to your 12 yo son about sex and sexuality? OK. Now it's time for you to come out from under your rock and acknowledge to yourself that he knows a lot more than you think. Most of whatever he's absorbed has come from the popular culture, and from peers and friend's older sibs, and some of it, perhaps, from school in a health or science classroom.

Which means he has some information and a bunch of misinformation. So despite your silence thus far, you still have three important jobs: to correct inaccurate information he has, to attach your values to that information, and to let him know that, from now on, you'd like to be a source of info for him.

Step 1. : Tell him, point-blank, "You know, I haven't done a good job when it comes to talking to you about sex and sexuality. I'd like to start doing a better job." You don't need to explain why you haven't so far. Instead, ask him some questions: "So tell me what you know about where babies come from." Or, "What do you know about sex?" You want to start with a question because that gives you a window into his knowledge base; you don't want to start out over his head or way under it. A question also will make him feel more grown-up than if you just start spouting. That's a lecture. You want a conversation.

Step 2. He will likely have one of several responses: "I know what I need to know," "I don't want to talk about it with you," or, "Yeah, maybe some other time." To any of that, your response is something like this: "Yeah, I'm sure you know a lot, I know I'm late to the game, so I just want you to know, if you have any questions, whatever, I'm ready to talk." Let him know that if you don't know the answer to a question, you'll find out and get back to him. In other words, your goal is to establish yourself as a credible albeit late-to-the-game resource.

Most like, your son is going to look at you as if you're from Mars. Most boys, no matter what they know, will be too embarrassed to admit any knowledge to you, especially when you're female, not male. If there's no father-figure in his life, this is a good time to enlist the help of someone your son knows and trusts: "I've talked to Uncle Dan, and he's happy to talk to you anytime, too."

If he happens to open up, even just a little -- "Yeah, well, in health class we learned all about reproduction." -- keep it simple: "I figured. Well, textbooks and real life are different. You probably have some questions. Like, does sex ever hurt? or, Why do I have so many erections? Let me know if you do, I'll always try to answer truthfully." The idea here is to put something on the table so that he sees you're (a) serious, (b) available, and (c) not embarrassed.

Truthfully, though? You're mostly going to get a "What- are-you-kidding?" look. Which leads you to Step 3.
Present him with a book: "Here's a book I thought you might like. It's not a textbook, it's written for boys like you who might be wondering about how their body is changing." He will take it grudgingly but, trust me, he'll read it. And if he doesn't take it: Leave the book in the bathroom.

Some time later (days, not hours and not weeks) ask him again if he has any questions. Make yourself available but don't push it. The conversation will likely happen when you least expect it, or when you're driving him to baseball practice.

Here are some recommendations for books:
"What's Happening to My Body? Book for Boys: Revised Edition," by Lynda Madaras, and Area Madaras; "What's Going on Down There? Answers to Questions Boys Find Hard to Ask" by Karen Gravelle; "Let's Talk about sex," by Robie Harris; and "Let's "Talk about S-E-X" by Sam Gitchel and Lorri Foster.

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14 comments so far...
  1. Barbara, you say 12 is way too late, I agree. But, what is an appropriate age to start this type of conversation with a son? a daughter?

    Posted by tas March 15, 13 12:49 PM
  1. Why is 12 too late? Everyone is different.

    Posted by ME March 15, 13 02:15 PM
  1. Tas, I can't post a link here, in the comment box, but if you search in my blog for Dec 15, 2010, I address this question.

    Posted by Barbara F. Meltz March 15, 13 03:43 PM
  1. I have a 16, 15 and 12 year old boys. 12 is too late - the hormones have started, etc. Plus, if your town is like 90% of the towns in Massachusetts, they had the "sex" class already at school TWO YEARS AGO. I am a single mother and my boys feel perfectly comfortable talking to me about why their bodies are changing, erections, etc. (and none of them are sexually active) If you are "matter of fact" about it, they will be too.

    Posted by lotsaboys March 15, 13 06:38 PM
  1. I'm not a parent, but I was 12 (female) once, and by then I knew quite a lot. If you want to get ahead of the rumor/mythology, you need to start early. And I bet the question is easier to discuss when you're talking to a younger child than when discussing it with an adolescent. There are age-appropriate ways to tell the truth.

    Posted by Susan March 15, 13 06:57 PM
  1. #2, By twelve, their bodies are already changing, many girls have periods and boobs -- shouldn't kids know what's happening BEFORE it happens? And why shouldn't a twelve year old understand where babies come from? Twelve year olds have sex, they need to know what can happen when you do that.

    Posted by gpm March 15, 13 07:54 PM
  1. I suspect these conversations are easier if you begin them when the child is much younger, and in a matter-of-fact fashion. By the time a child is 12 he probably thinks he has a pretty good idea what it is all about -- but it might be from a very different perspective than you would prefer.

    Posted by TF March 15, 13 09:19 PM
  1. I was a trained peer sexuality educator in college, and have seen the down side/scary side of what sometimes happens when parents don't educate their kids about sexuality, and this post made me nearly do a spit take. It seems to me that at age twelve your biggest challenge with your son would be to debunk misconceptions about sexuality he has picked up on the playground rather than start from "When a man and a woman love each other very much..." The challenge will be to figure out what his baseline assumptions are and to replace the incorrect and dangerous ones with real data. Books are a great way to do that, because he can digest them in his own time and at his own level, but he is probably going to need more of a discussion with a trusted adult he can talk to. That might mean a male adult if he isn't comfortable talking to you, and if you steer him towards a mentor, please pick carefully. Make sure you choose someone with current information and values that reflect both your sense of morality and modern perspectives. I am hoping he has picked up some information at school that came from educators and not just same age peers and internet porn. In this way, an uncle might be a better mentor than a grandfather, who will have a different generational perspective that might be morally sound but won't have up to date information.

    Important areas to make sure he "gets it" about sexuality include what is effective birth control (and what is not) STDs, what is rape and rape culture, and what is "the right" age to have had sex by. That last part is really important because there is a total disconnect between what age is typical and healthy to start experimenting with sexuality versus what schoolyard bravado determines. In other words, in truth it really is normal for many men and women to wait until college age or after to start experimenting with sex, if that is what they are comfortable with, but the way twelve year olds talk, you'd think all of them are doing it. Maybe the best thing you can do for your son is let him know that the other middle schoolers don't know as much as they pretend to know and don't do what they pretend to do, and he shouldn't do anything he doesn't feel a genuine self determined desire to do. When I was in Jr High there were a few couples who were already having intercourse, but far more boys who pretended they had, and when I was in college there were plenty of people who hadn't had intercourse yet, and plenty of them pretended they had, so the range of "normal" is really wide.

    Good luck. Start talking to him and supplying him with information. Be open to his questions. My Mom and I had an agreement that no matter what sexual question I asked, she would answer me honestly as long as she was allowed to process the question first. She had been raised in a cloistered environment so being asked by her daughter what an Orgy was in sixth grade (yes, really) was somewhat stressful for her. On the other hand, she pretty much took it in stride, it gave her an opportunity to pass on her values as well as information, and it led her to see that while I was hearing all kinds of things, many ridiculous, that what I was about was trying to place the information and misinformation in context, not go out and act on the information. That information enabled her to parent me better. Maybe this discussion will open up lines of communication with your son that will help you both navigate some of the other typical communication challenges ahead, like talking about alcohol and drugs.

    Posted by merilisa March 16, 13 03:54 AM
  1. I laugh when so called experts start telling us how and what to tell our kids especially about highly personal/sensitive matters. Our parents, grandfathers and ancestors did very well without such advice. I do not know this 12 year old or Barbara. What I know that matters that have been answered successfully for centuries need not be reinvented.

    Posted by Basil T March 16, 13 07:29 AM
  1. Basil, this woman ASKED Barbara for advice. It interests me that if you think advice is so pointless that you would spend your time reading an advice column.

    Posted by susanv March 16, 13 10:50 AM
  1. If your kid has access to an internet connection, I can guarantee you he has been getting all the information he needs. Im sure he has seen a few live demonstrations too.

    Posted by Fred Quimby March 16, 13 10:52 AM
  1. 12 is way too old. There are books that are excellent--the one for ages 10 and up might be good for him: "It's Perfectly Normal". Kids even learn about this in health class at age 10-11 ("It's So Amazing" is for ages 7 and up.)

    It turns out that my older two were ready for information at just around 7...so, the timing of "It's So Amazing" worked perfectly. (Our second had started hearing from a well-read friend just before he turned 7. Our first, a girl, hadn't heard too much before our discussion, but asked the exact questions that led me to believe she knew more than she hoped she knew.) We told them not to talk to anyone else at school, particularly anyone younger (or to their younger brother).

    A younger relative starting telling jokes that she didn't understand around 8...I decided then that I didn't want my kids hearing stuff at camp that they'd repeat to us (and we'd have to explain with potential embarrassment to them). Reading a technical book together worked well.

    Posted by Beth March 16, 13 05:26 PM
  1. Basil, Susanv is right, this woman asked for the advice. Besides, the era to which you refer included a time where women even in our country were frequently forced to marry their rapists, where high class women were instructed to lay back and tune out and let their husbands do whatever they wanted, when females enjoying their own sexuality was considered undesirable, where birth control was keeping an aspirin between your knees and STDs weren't something to be aware of, protect oneself from and treat, but rather to bring home to your family so you could all DIE from them. We have moved past the era where most people were agrarian so they saw goats, cats and dogs have sex and figured it out that way, or were sharing a room with the whole family so they witnessed their own parents doing it. We are living in the age of internet porn and cable TV and daytime talk shows on network TV talking about things that would have befuddled and offended me as a child. There is a whole lot that matters that was not answered for centuries that absolutely does need to be addressed. The world has changed and your view of the past is too rosy and incomplete.

    Posted by merilisa March 16, 13 10:57 PM
  1. The conversation starts with properly naming body parts when the child is learning the names of his toes and fingers. As a middle school health educator it is horrifying to see the number of students who have never heard an adult say the word "penis" and "vagina" out loud. Most of these students feel shame about their body due to this type of attitude about the body at home. As I tell my students, if your parents haven't talked to you about human growth and development by the time you are in 6th grade then they haven't done their job. Now it's my turn. Let me break it down...
    By age of 2 the child should be able to say the word penis and vagina
    By age 4-5 the child should recognize this as a private part not to be seen or touched by anyone but a parent but still feel no shame when word is said.
    By 3-6 when the questions come about babies "special love between mommies and daddies" help make the baby
    By 6-9 the words sperm and eggs should be used. Sperm is a special chemical from dads, that help the egg make the baby inside of mom
    By end of 4th grade the menstrual cycle, how egg and sperm together, reinforcing the love part between mom and dad. Yes boys should understand the menstrual cycle. Fast forward to health class in Gr 6
    Your child will be the one who is not dying from embarrassment, having stress/anxiety attacks about the subject being taught.
    They engage willingly in conversation, deepen their knowledge and move on to be more confident in their sexuality making them better able to good healthier decisions regarding sex....less teen pregnancy, sexually transmitted infections etc!
    Its really simple and so much better than letting your kid figure it by watching Porn...yes mommies 12 year old boys and girls watch porn...

    Posted by Brenda March 17, 13 08:47 PM
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