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NADINE GORDIMER'S NEXT CHAPTER
Date: Tuesday, November 29, 1994 But the words were electric, not dry; the topic was anything but arcane -- courageous fiction in times of injustice -- and when she finished, the reaction in the crowded hall was more than polite, it was thunderous, prolonged applause. For decades a lonesome, marginalized voice in her troubled country, South African novelist Nadine Gordimer, 71, is attracting rapt audiences wherever she goes in America. In her current appearances at Harvard, where she is giving the 1994 Charles Eliot Norton lectures "Writing and Being," at last month's Boston Globe book festival, at readings in St. Louis, Indianapolis, Bloomington, Minn., and New York, she has shown the sort of drawing power that most writers envy. After 11 novels, nine collections of short stories (more than 100 stories in all), the Nobel Prize for literature and countless other honors, Gordimer is at an important turning point in her career. The repression of apartheid and
the delusions of the color bar, long the leitmotifs of her work, are dead. Yet
she plunges ahead. Her new novel, "None to Accompany Me," wades vigorously
into the turmoil of a new world aborning: exiles returning, old Amid a busy reading schedule, Gordimer recently gave an interview at her university-provided apartment near Harvard Square. It's an austere little place, vaguely '60s-modern, with cement slab interior walls. Ever self-reliant and practical, concerned that the bronze apartment number cannot be seen, she has made and stuck on the gate a card with the apartment number marked in black. She has the face of a patient small-town librarian: lean and sharp with intent listening eyes, a reserved fleeting smile that always has a thought behind it. She is sylphlike -- about 5 feet tall and surely less than 100 pounds. Her manner is gracious, yet one senses she does not happily suffer fools. She converses the way she moves and writes, with economy and precision. If there is a one theme to Gordimer's work -- and the interview -- it is the way in which the truth insistently makes itself known, cannot be avoided or denied. Yet in the world of South Africa that she knew, lies were the foundation. "You were being taught as a child that it's wrong to tell lies," she says, "but the whole society was a lie, the life you were living was a lie. The convent school I went to was for whites only. When I got my pocket money on Saturday, and I went to the movies, only whites could go. Most important, the local public library -- I would never have been a writer without it -- was open only to white people. "So wasn't this privilege a big lie? There was this enormous lie and all the little lies that justified it: 'Blacks don't really need the things that we need.' So the more you grew up in that society, the more you started to question, the more you fell through one layer of lies to the next. And to find the bits of truth that were there, you had to dig into yourself, pass judgment on your parents, on everything that makes your life stable, the very structure of your life." A STORE'S STARK LESSONS
In Springs, Transvaal, the little mining town where she lived as a child, there were separate shops for black miners, to keep them out of the town. "My mother and I would go into them to shop sometimes, and I was curious that the shopkeepers treated the miners so rudely. The miners would have to point to what they wanted, and the shopkeepers would take it down and would grab the money. I was disturbed at the way they were treated, it stuck in my mind. One of the first of my stories came from that experience "The Defeated" . My way of dealing with it was to explore it by writing." She published her first story in a liberal newspaper at age 15. Impatient with the conventional expectations of a middle-class white girl, however clever, she left home at 21 and spent one year at the University of Witwatersrand in Johannesburg, where she encountered the milieu of intellectuals and artists that made her pursuit of a writing career irreversible. The 1952 divorce that ended a youthful marriage left her alone with a daughter, Oriane, who now lives in France. She married Reinhold Cassirer, an art dealer, in 1954 (he is with her on her US visit) and they have one son, Hugo, a filmmaker in New York.
In speaking out as she did, in essays and speeches as well as in her fiction, she contrasted sharply with the self-satisfied whites who blindly accepted their privileged position. She could not help herself. Like her character Rosa Burger, in "Burger's Daughter," she had an illness in South African terms: "A sickness not to be able to ignore that condition of a healthy, ordinary life: other people's suffering." Though marginalized and isolated, she never would leave as many white intellectuals did, even though for a period in the 1970s the black consciousness movement threatened her close connections with black writers and intellectuals. Many of her books contain black characters, and in some books, such as "July's People" and "None to Accompany Me," the story is partly seen through black characters' eyes. This drew criticism from young black intellectuals, which she met with characteristic vigor. "There was the idea that if you write about someone of a different color," she says, "or a different level of society, 'you are stealing our lives.' But you see, it can't be true of writers; you can't limit a writer like that. There are things that blacks know about whites that we don't know about ourselves, that we conceal and don't reveal in our relationships, and the other way about. We were brushing against one another every day in many situations, in work situations, in the street and everywhere. It's ignoring the truth to pretend that I don't know enough about blacks to make a July the main black character in "July's People", and the same thing applies to blacks. I've had this discussion with my own comrades among black writers. And in the last few years, they themselves have been rebelling against these strictures."
"There are things that I didn't do that I should have done," she says. ''I should have gone further. There's that selfishness, that tension of saying I'm a writer and I'm not going to make a really good revolutionary at the barricades, there will be certain things I will do, there will be limits set by the fact that I want to go on doing my own work. Of course these limits got stretched and stretched as time went by, so I became more and more involved in the process of struggle. I'm certainly glad that I did." If those who went further, she points out, took a higher moral ground, they also paid a price in terms of their own real work. "When a country is in desperate straits, and a man like Vaclav Havel has been prominent, as Gunter Grass was after the war in Germany, he becomes pushed into being a politician. But Havel wasn't all that successful as a politician, so you have to do what you know how to do, which is to write. "But of course, you still have great admiration that Havel did what Jean-Paul Sartre said you should do but never did, which was to stop writing and to act. Jean-Paul Sartre, all he ever did was sell L'Humanite on the street corner, but Havel went to prison, he did everything for his country."
relational facts, that is almost Jamesian. It takes the full length of "None to Accompany Me" for her to craft Vera Stark, the main character, and on the last page we are still learning about her. Truth in Gordimer's world requires patient accretion of nuances. "I've always thought, and I think you see it in my writing, that it is the significance of detail wherein the truth lies," she says. "These are invisible connections, invisible stitches, that really connect the narrative in a way that chronology and any other method doesn't do." Her characters are subtle and slippery, never tendentious mouthpieces for high-minded principles. Evil is evil, but with real human beings there are always mysteries of motivation and action. Even those nasty shopkeepers of her childhood, she points out, "were immigrants themselves, mostly Jews from Russia and Lithuania, who had suffered oppression, pogroms." For them, she said, mistreating the black miners "was like kicking the cat."
"This is a kind of judgment on the ordinary people," she says, "and that's
a very difficult thing for you to make, to say that the masses, the people,
have become brutal and that they enjoy this. But he does it so fearlessly that
he brings into it the other factor without being didactic: that there are
always dark tendencies in us, tendencies toward cruelty, and these can be
encouraged by the kind of leadership that you have. Think of what is happening
in Bosnia. Isn't it absolutely terrible? The mindless,
"In 'None to Accompany Me,' " says Stephen Clingman of the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, "I was struck by the somber mood. It had to do with old age, with the recognition that the death of an older society means a rebirth but also the death of old identity. She is a writer in relation to history. There is a consciousness of history in her work, not as a sense of the past but of the present as it evolves in individuals." Her public life is not over. She has been asked to join in a national reconstruction program for literacy. "The reconstruction is the next stage of the freedom struggle, and this is what is wonderful about it: It breaks that gap between the end of apartheid and a new life. I can't say no; it's a duty, almost like a military duty."
What about her private life as a writer? She answers that she has
maintained it through all the years of apartheid, and is not about to lose it
now. Her last Norton lecture is Dec. 5. What will she do when she returns
home? Candid as always, she says, "I don't know. I'm empty at the moment. I
am free, in a way, and waiting to see what I will do next."
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