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Palin, Biden clashed on energy policy

Posted by David Beard, Globe Staff October 2, 2008 11:03 PM

Is climate change manmade or part of a cyclical movement of worldwide temperatures?

Joe Biden and Sarah Palin gave different answers in their debate Thursday night.

To Palin, the Alaska governor, humans are only part of the cause. "There is something to be said also for man's activities, but also for the cyclical temperature changes on our planet," she said.

Biden, the Democratic senator from Delaware, said he had little doubt about the cause of recent climate changes.

"I think it is manmade. It's clearly manmade,'' Biden said. "If you don't understand what the cause is, you cannot come up with a solution."

He cited the explosion in Chinese coal-fired plants, spewing soot that pollutes the West Coast and raising dramatically the carbon emissions in the atmosphere.

Both vice-presidential candidates pledged to support alternative energy. Palin said the Democratic ticket was part of an establishment that for years had throttled the ''drill, baby, drill'' domestic oil-producing supporters. She encouraged the lifting of restrictions on offshore drilling and on oil and natural gas drilling on a federally protected swath of her state, the latter an issue she hoped to persuade her running mate, John McCain, to support.

Biden responded by saying it would be a decade before any new domestically produced oil made it to US pumps and repeated that our country has but 3 percent of the world's oil yet uses 25 percent of it. He also said McCain, the Arizona Republican, has voted consistently against inducements to encourage the development of alternative fuels and backs $4 billion in tax breaks to Exxon Mobil.

Readers, who do you think won the debate on the energy front? Let us know in our comment section below.

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33 comments so far...
  1. Palin Won Hands Down !!

    Posted by Tom Rossell October 2, 08 11:52 PM
  1. Biden Scores Knockout in Debate

    The Economy and Taxes--Biden

    Healthcare--Biden

    Energy, the Environment and Global Warming--Biden

    Connected with Main Street--Biden

    Human Compassion--Biden

    Foreign Policy--Biden

    Got his Facts Right--Biden

    Answered the Questions Asked--Biden

    Women's Issues--Biden

    Supreme Court Justice Appointments and Ideology--Biden

    Role of the V.P. (Cheney's Interpretation Dangerous)--Biden

    Supports his/her Running Mate--Biden

    Closing Comments--Biden

    Did I miss anything? Please continue...

    Posted by akmk October 2, 08 11:53 PM
  1. I think Senator Biden not only won the debate on the energy front but all fronts. He answered all the questions that he was asked by Gwen in a very professional way.


    Posted by john ruscito October 2, 08 11:53 PM
  1. Palin spoke to us while Biden was speaking to Gwen Ifill. She stuck a good balance on issues, and I related very well, when she said something to the effect
    we might look back to the good old days and tell our grandchildren about
    freedom and liberty, that is what it's about!

    Posted by Fannie October 2, 08 11:53 PM
  1. Biden did better on all substantive issues, including energy. We know drilling is not the answer, its a long term strategy that, in the long term, will continue to pollute the environment. We will end up wasting far more energy later trying to recover from a wrecked global environment that we will if we stop now with the reliance on oil, and move toward many proven sources of cleaner alternative fuels

    Posted by eric October 2, 08 11:54 PM
  1. Biden was more informed, classier and more effective - he won in a landslide.

    Posted by Paul C, - Kennebunk, ME October 2, 08 11:54 PM
  1. ......definitely Joe Biden. Convincing, very much a gentleman, and his soft side as a dad came through.

    Posted by L. Pacis October 2, 08 11:55 PM
  1. What is so appalling is that the standard for the vice-presidential debate was: “Could Palin ARTICULATE her arguments?’ How pathetic. We are on the verge of evolution in humanity, and we’re deceived into believing this kind of trite is valid. Obama, Biden, who not so incidentally has weathered far more than freakin’ Palin, is being held accountable for a standard that has never, EVER, been met by either McCain or Bush – Palin isn’t even worth mentioning!! I’m so sick and tired of the American public who support this absurd façade! Get smart, think, and fricken vote FOR THE PEOPLE, not for your own personal vendettas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The clear vote for a new America is: OBAMA

    Posted by primarywatcher October 2, 08 11:57 PM
  1. I think most people have already made up their minds how they will vote. Most people will say that their side won tonight's debate.

    Posted by Smitty October 2, 08 11:58 PM
  1. Though Palin managed to use her overly folksy manner to connect with people who already support her and did this well, the night went to Biden who provided clearer answers, didn't evade the questions and who avoided any major gaffes. I suspect that independents will see the weakness in her pat answers and be at least subconsciously suspicious of someone who loves the word "heckuva" (didn't know that religious conservatives were allowed to curse so much!), never pronounces the "g" at the end of "ing" (proper English does belong to all the people), and tries to be too cutesy.

    Posted by Eric October 3, 08 12:01 AM
  1. Senator Biden actually answered more of the moderator's questions directly without changing the subject entirely whereas Governor Palin blatantly ignored the question and made comments directly to the television audience about whatever topic she chose. She couldn't give an example of a change of a position she has made--(despite her "years of experience") where Biden spoke honestly about how he had changed his position on considering judicial philosophy when appointing judges. Palin put on a good show for the viewers, but when Biden spoke about struggling as a single parent he came off as very authentic.

    Posted by Jeanne Chouard October 3, 08 12:10 AM
  1. Senator Biden's understanding of the global climate crisis far surpasses that of his opponent. We need a vice president with an informed view of this in order to reverse the past several years of inaction on this most crucial of issues.

    Posted by Charlie Stephens October 3, 08 12:43 AM
  1. Palin is correct and Biden is wrong. The glaciers have been receding for thousands of years. We are coming out of an ice age. The earth has been getting warmer for thousands of years. To say Biden is better informed on this issue is to ignore the facts. The earth has also been warmer in the past than it is now. That is why we have fossils of tropical plants in arctic areas. These changes have nothing to do with internal combustion engines or coal fired plants in China.
    Palin was right on in her assessment of global warming. She is a maverick and is not afraid to go against the current popular notions.
    Kevin Dorsey

    Posted by Kevin Dorsey October 3, 08 12:59 AM
  1. Biden was brilliant, experienced, had complete command of the issues and answered the questions succinctly and clearly.

    Palin had memorized stock answers and pulled out whichever best fit the question, and if none did, just grabbed one at random.

    It seemed like a debate between an adult and a child.

    Posted by lnmonster October 3, 08 01:04 AM
  1. Palin didn't answer over half of the questions. Instead she gave her score card rhetoric. I cannot see how people can say that she did well.

    In several crucial and complex question she answered "no" or "yes" ... "but let me talk more about Alaska, Energy, Maverick..."
    Their tax cut is for people making over 250k per year. Well guess what that is not for the middle class America.

    She refers herself as middle class America too. Millionaires are not middle class. At least Biden had decency to admit that as a big seat politician he is well off.

    Palin was clueless. The fact that she didn't stutter or make herself as much as a fool as in the previous tv-interviews is not same as doing well. Also that was largely because she wasn't pressed to actually answer the questions. Now she just fell back for the repetitive empty nonsense.

    Posted by John Butler October 3, 08 01:31 AM
  1. Anyone who uses Energy and Oil as synonyms, as I felt Sarah Palin did last night, is not getting my vote. Drilling is not "producing" energy - it is merely postponing or even hastening the inevitable fall of our nation if we don't reduce our dependence on oil, period.

    Posted by Blair Stephens October 3, 08 07:01 AM
  1. Everyone and I mean everyone, well maybe with the exception of T-Boone Pickens doesn't seem to understand we need an energy plan that includes a bridge of where we are and where we need to be. The Democrats don't have one. They expect to be able to throw a switch and make it all go away. McCain/Palin come close in that they say we need all solutions, including drilling. But we need realistic plans on how to get from here to not only energy independency but with clean energy. Obama/Biden seem to default to the Democrat approach and think you can throw money around. Why is drilling important when it takes years to bring the product online? Well, if we had drilled 10 years ago that oil would be online now. But most important is the psychology of business and investing. Oil is a commodity traded mostly by speculators. That marked is affected by every sneeze and prices today are affected by what will happen down the road. Even finance 101 students know todays stock market is a predictor of what business will be six months down the road. Maybe Obama's Ivy League schools don't teach such anymore?

    Posted by Ed - Outside of 495 October 3, 08 09:11 AM
  1. Palin spoke to us as though we were stuffed teddy bears sitting in her daughter's bed room. Cutesy, folksey, rubbish. She is over challenged overall but uniquely over challenged when tackling environmental issues. What could she possibly know about the cyclical changes on the planet when, according to her, the planet is only 6,000 years old!?

    Posted by Freestone October 3, 08 09:20 AM
  1. Joe Biden wins for no other reason that he's actually learned how to pronounce "nuclear" properly. There is only one "u" - "nucular" is not a word.

    Oddly, I found that the one time that Palin seemed to start floundering and resorting to her verbal tic, stringing together nonsense phrases with "also," was during a question about energy. She exaggerated Alaska's progress on the natural gas pipeline. She wrote an editorial for the New York Times defending her opposition to including polar bears on the endangered species list, despite the fact that their habitat is literally melting away.

    Biden has a better grasp on the energy issues as they relate to the lower 48. He's done his homework and she keeps falling back on Alaska.

    Posted by Ariel October 3, 08 11:50 AM
  1. Palin said the US was the "country that cares most about the environment".
    SUUUUREE.... Thats why we were the only country to back out of the KYOTO TREATY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by nate October 3, 08 12:05 PM
  1. Palin gave Tina Fey plenty of material for SNL, with the winking and the cutesy talk. I just can't vote for McCain with her on the ticket. Sorry John. Guess its a write-in for Ron Paul.

    Posted by kalajen October 3, 08 01:53 PM
  1. If I was voting for a beauty queen, Palin would get my vote. But after last night's Airhead performance, I think she is more suitable for Hollywood than Washington. This country deserves better. Bidden was brilliant.

    Posted by sk October 3, 08 01:54 PM
  1. Reading your assinine comments here punctuates why our country is in such a mess. Are you a room full of sheep, following the media right off the cliff? quite frankly, part of me wants Obama in, then watch him self destruct. This fellow has NEVER ONCE achieved anything which sugegsts he will be a good commander-in-chief.

    I do NOT trust Biden. I do NOT trust Obama. I do trust Palin and McCain. And by the way, Biden is nothing more than a blowhard egomaniac liar. He lied 3x last night about Obama

    An

    Posted by Mary Cranston October 3, 08 01:57 PM
  1. Palin was the loser, but more likely it was McCain forcing her to be a loser. Biden and the Democrats are full of crap on Global Warming. What she should have suggested is that ideas like carbon credits and caps do nothing to reduce CO2 and only put a damper on the economy - which in case you haven't noticed already has problems.

    Palin and McCain should have taken a page from T Boone Pickens plan which utilizes natural gas as a bridge to alternative sources, suggested some way to fund research and growth in alternative energy. CO2 is not the energy problem. Dependence on foreign sources is the problem.

    Posted by RIchard October 3, 08 03:21 PM
  1. Fannie, who is this "us" Sarah Palin is speaking to? She is certainly not speaking to me. Biden provided a more clear and comprehensive answer on this question, just as he did for all the other questions asked. The questions that she skirted around, and that he gave real responses to.

    Posted by Carmen Sandiego October 3, 08 03:32 PM
  1. If you're dumb enough to be seduced by Palin's prattle, there's probably not much hope for you. Ever.

    Posted by Michael Levinsky October 3, 08 04:53 PM
  1. Palin is not someone you should trust on clean energy. More oil is not the right path we should go down. Palin is acting so selfish. I believe Biden rules

    Posted by AW October 3, 08 05:15 PM
  1. You Obamaholics are so angry.

    I do agree that Biden won the overall debate, but Sarah Palin won the debate on energy. Even though she wasn't as strong on foreign policy she is still more experienced than Obama.
    Also, Biden doesn't shop at his local Home Depot and pump his own gas. Obama and Biden know the liberals will fall for it every time. He lied and he, just like Obama, is getting a pass by the liberal media. He could have won an Academy Award for the performance he put on. I guess Obama and Biden did learn something from their friends in Hollywood.


    Posted by David October 3, 08 06:11 PM
  1. Anybody who believes that global warming is not a primarily manmade problem is a downright moron, which means Sarah Palin is a moron. And anyone who trusts McCain or Palin is also a moron. That's not to say that Obama and Biden are trustworthy; they are all politicians and will say what is needed to stay in the race, but let's not be stupid. And since when does more federal oversight match up with Republican small government ideology? Anyone with half of a brain could see that Palin's performance was pretty much scripted. Anyone who likes being called "Joe 6-pack" and feels like they can relate to Palin deserves to have her run their country. But I'll be damned if she winds up running mine.

    Posted by Christine October 4, 08 01:27 AM
  1. Biden clearly the winner of this debate........."Wink WinK'

    Posted by Maureen Butler October 5, 08 01:09 AM
  1. The clear problem is not with Palin. The problem is that huge numbers of people can listen to her and believe that she should be in the White House. She is obviously ignorant, She simply parrots what's said in their ads. She jokingly mentions how she couldn't do any better than a D in economics. She says how she is just a soccer Mom, or "Joe six-pack" and this is what 45% of our nation wants to lead our Nation! We need the very best minds in the White House if we want to survive in this world, not a second-rate beauty queen, with the intellect to match.
    This is why our country is headed downhil at an ever increasing speed.

    Posted by Steve October 5, 08 07:04 AM
  1. Pallin= Ding-bat with rabies.

    Posted by Brian m-McCarty October 5, 08 08:38 AM
  1. Palin has only a lot of stupid nerve to stand on a platform against Joe Biden. She is an utter fool. Her folksy ignorance should be saved for the four walls of her home. She is a travesty and a female version of George w. An idiot who cannot comprehend a question let alone answer it.

    Posted by Giovanna October 5, 08 01:47 PM
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