Dating
I'm wearing the pants
Q: I've been with my boyfriend for the past two years. We live together (a first for both of us) and he's by far my greatest love.
Our main issue is that I feel like I'm the man in the relationship because I tend to take care of everything and it's progressively been getting worse.
I make all reservations, take care of all the bills, and if something goes wrong in the apartment, I'm the one on the phone with the landlord. Any date we go on, I plan it all. Any weekend trip, I plan it all. We're invited to many weddings this year and I've planned everything for every one of them. And I know this sounds sexist to some, but I also have a hard time with the fact that I make a lot more money than he does. So not only am I the breadwinner, but I get to come home to make dinner and clean up the place after my long day.
We've had many discussions about how I don't like the role-reversal feeling, but he tends to get defensive and claims that he "does stuff too," and will use taking out the garbage or doing our laundry (he doesn't actually do it) as examples. After explaining to him that it's not just about chipping in at home, he agrees that he needs to start being more involved in planning and also talks about going back to school in order to further his career.
All this talk is great and it makes me feel better, but we've had this discussion three times in the past two years and nothing has actually changed. No actions, just talk.
I know you can't tell me how long to wait it out, but I need to know suggestions for how to make this work better. I've tried the "wait until he actually does it" on a lot of things. It just ends badly. Just as reference, he's in his mid-30s and he wasn't/isn't a "mamas' boy"...
– How Do I Get Out of Wearing the Pants In The Relationship?, Boston
A: This has nothing to do with gender roles. This has nothing to do with pants.
If we're going to make generalizations about men and women (and I'd rather not), I'd actually say that women are better planners. You should see the RSVP list for Love Letters events. Women tend to RSVP the day I publicize the event. The men email me at the last minute -- after the event is booked up -- with notes that say, "I meant to sign up but I forgot. Will you please let me in?" Again, I don't like to generalize about who does what, but I think that some of your assumptions about what men do might be a bit off.
Your issue is that you're wearing the pants, a dress, a travel agent's uniform, a maid's outfit, and everything in between. You're running the show and you're tired.
My advice is to make a list (on paper) of the things that you want him to do. Make it short. Just one or two tasks. As in, "Book hotel room for July wedding." Hand him the list. Put it on the fridge. Give him a deadline, one thing at a time.
I also want you to consider hiring help. You make money? Fine. Spend some of it on a cleaning service. Make your life easier so that you don't have to nag.
As for the bigger issues with his lack of motivation, you just have to accept him for who he is. He's in his mid-30s. He might never go back to school or change his job situation. Can you be happy with him the way he is now? Consider that question. Because after two years, you have to be open to living with the status quo. You can't expect too much more. There is no waiting it out.
Readers? Should she walk away from this? Are the gender stereotypes fair? What can she do to get him to do more work? Anyone else have this problem with a partner? Help.
– Meredith
He's keeping score
Q: I am in my early 50s and a single mother of college-age children. One lives at home and goes to school nearby. I work full time and do some community and volunteer activities. I also keep active and healthy and have responsibilities with my extended family.
For the past few years I have been dating a man who is in his early 60s. He is retired and has children who are out of college and on their own. We see each other about once a week and talk on the phone every day. In his words, he is kind of a hermit; he enjoys spending time with people but mostly likes being alone doing stuff around his house.
When I first got divorced I thought I would want to find a new relationship. Now I'm leaning toward appreciating the freedom of being single and having the comfort of a relationship that's "there" but not intense.
My main problem? We don't have the easy give-and-take that I would hope for in a relationship. He keeps track of whose turn it is to cook dinner and who has done what household task for the other. About half the time I carry groceries to his house on the T and cook there. This is fine, but sometimes if I've had a busy week I'd like him to cook even if it should be "my turn." He sometimes does small favors for me, like fixing something, but I feel like I am indebted for the favor. And, in fact, I know he mentally "keeps track" of favors he does for people, including things he does for me. He says that he believes that you should always have favors in the bank with people in order to maintain good relationships.
I think that people who are in a close relationship shouldn't keep track of everything too closely and should recognize that one person may need more support than the other sometimes. Even though my boyfriend and I aren't married and don't live together, I'd like to have some of that easy give-and-take.
My boyfriend has more free time, more money, and better resources. I'm more idealistic and community-oriented. He somewhat values the fact that through me he can connect with community events and get to know people. But he doesn't see that as a "contribution" to the relationship in the way fixing something in someone’s house might be.
I know this is a crazy situation and I'd like to improve it. So I guess I'd like some perspective - how do other people handle taking turns cooking and exchanging household repairs and the other small things that people do for each other?
– Is it my turn to cook dinner?, Boston
A: You sound really cool, IIMTTCD, which is why I want you to end this relationship. You can't improve this situation. Not really. You can't change how he sees the world. Some men would consider it a privilege to come over and cook for you. Some men would enjoy the process of picking out what to make and running it over to your house. This guy is too busy keeping score to understand what it means to enjoy a life with someone.
If he were just a friend, what would you think of him? Would you put up with a friend who made you feel bad when you needed help? Would you put up with a friend who didn't value everything you bring to the table?
I want you to be with an enthusiastic partner, not someone who keeps track of who does what. You say that you're happy with this once-a-week relationship, but wouldn't it be nice to be with someone who likes being around more often? Is this guy capable of more?
You don't have to try to repair this relationship just because you've been with him for years. You're allowed to walk away and find someone who shares your values. You should be dating someone who's a better friend.
Readers? Can she fix this? Is it possible that she's asking for too much? Is this an age difference thing? What should she do? Do you keep track of favors? Help.
– Meredith
Dating a silent artist type
Q: Hey Mere,
I tend to date artist types. Musicians, painters, actors, etc. My newest flame is a writer (he's 27). I am also a writer and 24. We are crazy about each other. He is ridiculously kind, handsome, talented, and charming. We have goals and morals in common, and many of our tastes are similar. We have both been in many relationships and feel that ours is special and unique. We often talk about how lucky we feel to have found one and other.
I haven't felt this comfortable with someone in a really long time. We have sleepovers up to five nights a week, and often spend the next day together. Sometimes we even sit in coffee shops and have "writing dates." This has been the most rewarding relationship I've ever been in.
The problem? And the problem that I've had in other relationships? When the bedroom door is closed and it's just him and me, he lets down his guard. We'll talk for hours about any topic that may come up. Endless conversations about the world, our thoughts, dreams, ambitions, sex, past relationships, friends, work, family, politics, money ... you name it. We play games, joke, and laugh a lot. He lets me in, in the way that I need to be let in to feel comfortable and desired.
But sometimes when we spend the days together we hardly talk about anything. I try to start conversations but his answers are short, he seems distant, and a little closed. He is by no means rude, but his mind seems to be elsewhere. Sometimes it eventually turns into a silence that makes me really uncomfortable, and to have someone be SO open one minute and so closed the next is confusing to me. I have had two other relationships where this has happened and in the end was part of why we broke up.
As a writer I like to talk and share. When a man puts a wall up I tend to panic and question his feelings for me. I grew up around lots of lies and a bad divorce, which might be the problem. But what's this about, Mere? Why do the men I date seem so comfortable with me behind closed doors, but become closed when we are out and about? I don't question how he feels about me; we are together all the time and I know he wouldn't be around so much if he wasn't into this. Someone once told me that if you are able to be silent with someone it means you are truly comfortable with them. But to me silence feels like there is something not being said. A few of my friends have also suggested that artists have a number of layers that are sometimes hard to understand. What do you think? Is there a way I can bring my concern up to him without looking like a manic girl? Is there a way I can feel more comfortable in the silence?
– Uncomfortable Wall Of Silence, NY
A: I get it, UWOS. I am the queen of sharing. Sometimes I talk about empathy and self-awareness when I'm on the lunch line in the Globe cafeteria. And I know I've been the annoying girlfriend who asks, "What are you thinking?" when her boyfriend is just trying to drive a car.
But I also love silence. And I have errands to deal with during the day that have nothing to do with my soul. If I spent all day engaging with people about feelings, I'd probably forget that I need an oil change and a haircut.
This isn't about dating moody artists. Your guy isn't even that moody. Your problem is the amount of time you spend together. All day and all night? That's a lot. That's like ... every waking and sleeping hour. Perhaps it'd be better for both of you if you separated more often during the day so that you could get stuff done without having to question the emotional state of your partner. Sometimes it's better to have a break and shoot for quality instead of quantity.
You're thinking of your time together as one long date. That's too much pressure.
Don't bring this up with him -- at least not in the context of a big, important conversation. Just use some of those daytime hours to walk away and call a friend. If you need to talk, fine. Just talk to someone else. You can find your boyfriend again at night and make up for lost time.
Readers? Is this about dating an artist or is this about her issues with silence? How does one become comfortable with quiet? Will walking away help? Should she talk to him about this? What are you thinking?
– Meredith
Should I reveal a cheat?
Q: Hi Meredith,
I have recently found myself in the awful, awkward, uncomfortable position of learning that my friend's boyfriend is cheating on her. If that situation on its own isn't complicated enough, it gets worse.
To start, my friendship with her began because she is my boyfriend's friend's girlfriend. We used to hang out together all the time: double date dinners, drinks, and even weekend trips together. Through that I became good friends with her, but the reason we got to know each other in the first place is through our boyfriends.
About a month ago, my boyfriend and I heard about the cheating. We confronted the cheater and he insisted he had ended things and realized how wrong his actions had been, is turning over a new leaf, and that his relationship is better than ever. I personally don't believe a word he says, but perhaps that's beside the point.
I am absolutely disgusted with the cheater and have avoided hanging out with him and his girlfriend as a couple since I've heard about this. She talks about marriage and her future with him, and I feel guilty and terrible that I know about her boyfriend’s infidelity and am not telling her.
The final complication is that my boyfriend and his friend started working together, so now there is a professional element of their relationship. I certainly don't want to do anything that will complicate their professional or personal relationship, but knowing about this and not telling her is absolutely killing me with guilt!
Should I tell her? Is it even my place to tell her? Is this my business at all?
– Having a Moral Dilemma, Boston
A: These questions make me squirm ... because there's no answer that will bring anybody any peace. I squirmed about a similar question in March. I squirmed about cheating in chat the other day.
My gut always says, "Leave the cheaters alone. Don't get involved." Then I think, "But I'd want to know." After that I usually wonder whether the cheater might be carrying some awful STD that he/she will now give his/her innocent, unassuming partner.
In your case, you have to tell. You mention that the guilt is killing you. You became this woman's friend and now you're avoiding her. You believe in your heart that she should know. That's your answer.
You and the boyfriend did the right thing by approaching this problem as a couple. Please explain to your boyfriend that you're just not done, and that he needs to stand by you as you reveal the truth. You must handle the aftermath -- whatever it is -- as a team. Decide whether you're going to confront this guy for the second time or go straight to her.
Again, my answer to these types of questions tend to change based on the situation, but you need this woman to know, and by confessing to the cheat, this guy made it your business. Talk to your boyfriend and come up with a plan for your next move. Get it done.
Readers? Am I wrong? Does the new work relationship mean that they should keep silent? How should they go about this? Should she warn the cheater that she's going to reveal his cheat? What if her boyfriend disagrees with her plan? Help.
– Meredith
Will he ever commit?
Q: My whole dating life has been filled with long-term relationships. Even my attempt at a one night stand didn't end for a year. But here I am in another long-term relationship, and for the first time in a long time I'm confused.
I started dating this wonderful guy (with commitment issues) about three years ago. Things have been great and we both knew going into this that we would have to be patient with each other to make this work. Right from the start I let him know what I want in life: a family, a house in a nice town, stability, etc. I knew there was a chance that I would drive him away if I brought up the topic, but it didn't. After our first discussion he told me I was worth it to try to see if he could want that as well ... eventually.
The pro of our relationship: He loves me and will do just about anything for me. The con: His inability/inexperience with long-term relationships, which at times can have me feeling as though I need to battle to have my feelings matter to him as much as his own. And no, not just during the trivial fights.
So, here I am three years later and something just isn't clicking and I'm not sure if it will eventually click or if I'm waiting for something that will never happen. Having his family joke at the thought of him getting married doesn't help my confidence in "us." But then again his family has also told me that if he’s going to take the plunge they can see that happening with me.
Unfortunately he lives too much in the moment and his long-term planning skills are terrible, but he says he does see a future with me in it. I guess I'm not sure if that’s a forever-future.
My friends are split about 50/50. Some think that I need to be patient, but I think I have been patient for three years. Others think I need to walk away, but it really isn't that easy because our relationship is great day-to-day.
So I guess my questions are: Am I finding a problem in a relationship that seems to be working? Or am I justified in constantly doubting the extent of our future.
– What Does the Future Hold, Boston
A: Is your relationship really that great on a daily basis, WDTFH? You mention having to fight to make your feelings matter. You imply that you're living on his schedule. I'm not convinced that this partnership is so rosy.
My advice is to be 100 percent honest with him about what you want -- and to be as specific as possible about your timeline. If you want to be engaged within the next year, tell him. If you want a baby in two years, make that known as well.
I'm all for living in the moment, but not at the expense of another person's sanity. There's no game to play here. There can't be any more waiting for answers to the big questions. It's been three years.
You say that something "just isn’t clicking." I want you to trust your gut on that, no matter what 50 percent of your friends think -- and what his parents say about the "plunge." (Hate that word.)
I get the sense that you're his first girlfriend. Ask him if he wants you to be his last. He should have an easy answer for that one.
Readers? Is it even worth asking these questions? Has she been clear about her needs? Does he just need more time? What should people know after three years? Is her dating history relevant? Discuss.
– Meredith
Should I just end it now?
This is "grad school ruins everything" week, apparently.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I am a 30-year-old female and have been dating my 28-year-old boyfriend, Tim, for more than a year. I bought a house in January (by myself) and we moved in together. Although our relationship is not perfect, our life together is pretty awesome. We have a great group of friends, host game nights and BBQs, go to the farmer's market, work out together, ride our bikes, watch sports and movies, talk about politics and life, etc. I laugh at his wacky sense of humor, appreciate his desire to make holidays and birthdays extra-special and fun, respect his commitment to a healthy lifestyle, share his political views, and admire his ambition and his drive to achieve great things in his life. I feel lucky that he is in my life and I know he feels the same way about me.
Except for the major thing looming over our relationship, which is Tim's recent decision to pursue a PhD in his field no matter where it takes him. He already has a master's and the PhD program would be 5-years, full-time. He will only go if he gets funding from the program. We live in North Carolina and although he will be applying to two schools here, he also plans to apply to schools around the country for admission in fall of 2013. Previously he had decided that he would only go for his PhD if he got accepted to a school in NC -- hence our decision for me to buy a house and for him to move in with me. Now, he has decided that getting a PhD trumps everything else in his life and that he won't be satisfied unless he achieves this goal.
Until this point, I never imagined myself leaving North Carolina. After a rocky start, I have now lived here for almost 5 years and love my job, have good friends, and just bought a beautiful brand-new house. We both know it is unlikely that I would follow Tim if he left (although I would be lying if I said I haven't started thinking about what a more adventurous life might look like, going wherever his education and work takes us). With that in mind -- that I am not sure I would go with him if he left North Carolina -- the question is what to do with our relationship now, when we won't know where he gets accepted until mid-2013.
We have talked about this at length. Tim doesn't want to break up now. He wants to take life day-by-day and get as much out of this relationship as we can, even if he leaves for school next year without me. He says he doesn't like to think about going through the next year without me and my support. I don't want to break up now either, but I also don't want to invest another year in this relationship only for him to tell me he is leaving in the fall of 2013. I don't feel truly happy and secure in this relationship anymore when the thought of it ending is always in the back of my head. Worse, it is hard for me to hear about him planning for this future and what he needs to do to ensure he gets into a good program. Sometimes it feels like he is making all these plans to better his future -- a future that may not include me. I truly admire his ambition and I want him to pursue his dreams but it also hurts to think of what it all means for our relationship. At the same time, I love our life together and don't want to mess that up before I really know there is no hope for our future.
I know I need to make this decision on my own, but I am curious what you and other people think. Sometimes I feel like I should live in the moment and enjoy all our time together and just see what happens next year. Other times it breaks my heart to think of becoming more invested in this relationship knowing there is a good chance it will end. Please help.
– Expiration Dating
A: I'm a little confused about how Tim has framed your options, ED.
If Tim knows that he doesn't want to be with you outside of North Carolina and has asked you to be a placeholder, please kick him out. You're not his cheerleader.
But if Tim is open to the possibility that you might move with him, I want you to live in the moment. Because you don't know what you want.
You just started processing this change and you're already having a few private fantasies about what life would be like in a new place. If Tim framed this as something that you might want to do together after another good year, please give this time.
You've only lived in North Carolina for five years, and Tim is such a big part of your happiness. After a year of dating, no one knows what promises should be made.
Houses can be rented out. A few years in a new university town might be pretty cool. 2013 is far away.
Again, as long as Tim is open to anything, this isn't over. Because you're undecided. By this time next year, you might be.
Readers? Should she stick this out? Are you getting the impression that Tim wants her there? Do you have a problem with him applying to out-of-state schools at this point in their relationship? How can she explore this relationship without feeling as though it's going to expire? Discuss.
– Meredith
He has to move for grad school
Q: Dear Meredith,
I'm a longtime LL reader. About a year-and-a-half ago, I started dating a wonderful guy after we had become close friends. Our relationship is everything I want -- we laugh, we support each other, we have fun, and there is plenty of physical attraction. Any other ex-boyfriend pales in comparison. We have talked many times about the future, and we both see us getting married and having kids (we are both in our early 30s).
Boyfriend has worked very hard, and he just got accepted to graduate school. He's elated. I'm proud of him. But the downside is that he has to move to a new city for two years. We will soon be shifting from inseparable to a long-distance relationship. I am trying to support him in his new adventure, but I am also terrified. We had started to plan on living together if he got into a school in Boston. Now we will be three hours apart. Will this delay our plans to get married and start a family? Should we get engaged before he leaves to solidify our commitment? Will we grow tired of the distance and fight all the time? How will we make this work?
These questions are wearing me down, and putting it mildly, I have not been my best self around Boyfriend. I'm snippy and emotional. All I can think about is what is going to happen with us. It's been difficult to enjoy my time with him, and I am fighting the urge to avoid him. I have told him how I feel and asked him these questions. He tries to be sympathetic, but he doesn't have any answers. He says he needs to think about it. So I have backed off. He is leaving in two months.
I don't want to rush the guy, but come on. I'm freaking out. Give a girl some answers. Show me that you're still in this relationship for the long-term and how you want to make it work. It's been about four weeks and I am losing my patience. Is there a way to balance his need to process with my need to know what's going to happen next? This is obviously a big change for him too. Should I be pushing for answers and for a sign of commitment or should I just let things run their course? Am I being a crazy lady?
– Losing My Cool, Boston
A: I understand why you're freaked out, LMC. This kind of change is scary, especially when you're in your early 30s and feel ready for kids. But I'm a little confused about the answers you're looking for.
You were supportive about grad school and knew that he might have to go far away. You obviously didn't have a discussion about how distance would work. What are your specific questions now? Are you asking him whether you're going to stay together at all -- or whether this move simply delays some of the hypothetical plans you've been talking about over the year? Does he understand what you need to know? If you don't know the answers, should he?
All he can really say right now is: "I love you and I want to make this work." That's the statement you should be looking for.
My advice, for now, is to make these questions a bit smaller. Instead of talking about your timeline for marriage and procreation before he even knows what grad school will be like, can you sit in bed with him and Google restaurants for you to try together in his new town? Can you talk about how you might spend summers?
You shouldn't get engaged just because he's going away. If he was going to propose anyway, fine, but you can't jump from point A to point M (marriage) just because you have a new challenge as a couple. You can't speed this along out of fear.
Just ask smaller questions and consider the spirit of his answers. I've found that tiny questions often turn the big, scary questions into no-brainers.
Readers? What should she be asking for here? Should they get engaged? Is it weird that he needs time to process what happens next? Are her questions too intimidating? How can she relax as she waits for this distance to begin? Help.
– Meredith
Ending a camp romance
Q: I am 18 years old. A college freshman. I have been dating my boyfriend for 10 months. We met last summer because we work together. He is a wonderful person -- sweet, very romantic, loving, understanding (to an extreme degree), and in my head, when I think about him, I just think about how he is just absolutely the perfect guy. But for some reason that I can't pinpoint, I am not at all IN love with him. Whenever I think about him, I also have this feeling of guilt. It just feels wrong, and although I don't know why this feeling came about, it is still very much there.
The thing is, I'm away at college, and once our summer jobs were over for the year, we have been a minimum of a 40 minute drive away from each other. In the beginning we were constantly texting each other and Skyping almost every single night for hours and hours on end. But it’s become much more difficult to communicate.
And above all else, I am so busy with schoolwork and stressed out that I am despicably flaky when it comes to communication with him. He is so wonderful, and I just feel like he deserves so much better than me.
But I have no idea how to end it. He really has never ever messed up at all, and I am very, very far from perfect. Also, we work together in the summer around kids, and I don't want there to be a lot of awkwardness between us-for the campers' sakes. I don't know how to do this.
Can someone please give me some advice? I have never broken up with anyone before. The only other relationship I have ever been in lasted two weeks, and then there was just awkwardness between us, so we broke up. I don't know what to do. Someone please help me out here.
– Torn and Confused, NY
A: There's no way to break up with someone who loves you without being the bad guy.
But here's some advice: Wait until you get to camp again before you make any big decisions.
Camp romances are strangely powerful. You get close to someone and start dating them, and then camp suddenly is over, which makes you feel estranged. Then, just as you're about to end your summer relationship because it's just too difficult to maintain, it's time for camp again.
In a few weeks you might find that you are in love with him -- or that you like him enough to date him again during the summer. Or maybe he'll show up to camp and decide that he's the one who's ready to move on.
Something tells me that when you get back into the camp routine, you'll be able to make these decisions together.
And don't worry about the campers. They're used to counselor drama.
If you do wind up having to break up with him, just tell it like it is. You're 18 and unsure about what you want, and he deserves a better summer romance. The best way to break up with someone is to be honest and then give them space.
Readers? Ever fallen for someone at a summer job? How did it end? Any advice for someone who’s about to break up with someone for the first time? Help.
– Meredith
How do I see through lies?
This is a first ...
Q: Dear Meredith,
I went out on a "Dinner with Cupid" date set up through the Boston Globe Magazine. I was very optimistic about the experience. I love trying new things and I was excited about embarking on this new opportunity. My date and I had a great time. Throughout the date I felt comfortable and our conversation was very engaging. At one point during the date he asked me what I was looking for in a relationship. I explained to him that I am looking for a companion and partner, someone to spend time with and try new things with. My date said he agreed and that he was looking for the same thing.
He asked when my last relationship was and I told him it had been a year or so. He told me he had been dating but hadn't been in a serious relationship in a long time as well. After the date, we exchanged numbers and he said he would be interested in getting together again soon. The following day after I completed my interview with the Globe, I got a text from him. He asked me how my interview went and then landed some harsh news. He said he had a great time on our date but that he needed to be honest with me and tell me that he was actually in a relationship with someone.
Obviously this was shocking. After about an hour of mourning the loss of a potential relationship brewing, I moved on with my life but not without doing a little soul searching. It seems that I am so optimistic and hopeful that I believe every word my date says. I always believe that what my date says is true and expect him to follow through. Maybe I am hearing only what I want to hear. Am I reading into what my date says too much? Should I compromise my openness and put my guard up? Why can't people be honest about how they feel and what they want?
In some of my past failed relationships I definitely jumped all in whereas my partner was more hesitant to really be fully emotionally invested in the relationship. I just can't help myself. I am a hopeless romantic who sees the best in everyone. How can I fix this so that I can see through the liars and find someone who wants to be in a healthy committed relationship with me?
– Gullible?, MA
A: This is so weird. I mean, this guy couldn't have been lying to his girlfriend, right? She'd see him in the magazine.
My guess is that this guy signed up for Dinner With Cupid, met someone, and then didn't think he could call off the date. Which stinks. And he handled it so poorly.
This wasn't your fault. You're not gullible and you're not doing anything wrong. This guy lied to you through an entire date -- on behalf of a newspaper! You had every reason to assume he was legit.
My only advice is to try to save your extreme excitement until your dates have earned your loyalty. Let's say DWCL (Dinner With Cupid Liar) had been single. He still might have been weird and wrong for so many other reasons. You filled in the gaps on his behalf, but that's his job. You should be asking yourself questions like, "I wonder if he's as fun on date 10 as he is on date 4?" First dates are exploratory, no matter how good they are.
I promise you, most people are good and honest. This guy was an exception to the rule. You can go back out there as a hopeless romantic. Just take your time.
Readers? Does this Dinner With Cupid date mean that people are dishonest? What should she take from this experience? How can she stop herself from getting too excited after a good first date? Discuss.
– Meredith
I found a racy picture on his computer
Q: Dear Meredith and LL commenters,
My boyfriend and I have been dating for nearly a year. We met in college almost 10 years ago (we're now both in our late 20s) but we were just friends and dating other people. We eventually realized that we wanted our relationship to go to the next level and started dating. I have always found him very attractive, fun, and one of the nicest guys I know. I have since fallen very deeply in love. After knowing him so for long and now so intimately, I have seriously started to picture a future with him. I know from what he says and how he behaves that he loves me, enjoys spending his time with me, and also has thoughts about the future. We've both been very happy.
So here's my problem. The other night I was at his condo sitting next to him as he worked on his computer. As he closed down some browsers there was a picture of a teeny-waisted, large-busted female in her underwear -- clearly from the internet, not someone we know. I immediately got very upset in a pathetic and crying, not angry, sort of way.
I know that men do this all the time but I never thought about him doing it (because, of course, I naively thought he was perfect). I know that other people would have handled this better than I did.
I consider myself a sexual person but only with the person I'm with. We're intimate most days that we see each other (about 4 times a week) and I know he's satisfied (he re-stated this after the incident). But I've never watched videos or looked at pictures or even imagined doing anything with anyone else. I was in shock and greatly hurt. I hate thinking about him wanting someone else -- even just a woman in a picture -- who was not me. Additionally, it made me feel really insecure because I do not look like her. I have an athletic build and will never have those Barbie dimensions. He was clearly very sorry that I was hurt, told me how much he loved me, and that he would never, ever cheat on me. He spent a lot of time just holding me and trying to make me feel better and reminded me that I am the person with whom he wants to experience life. But he never uttered a single thing about stopping what he was doing.
My questions are: Why do people do this? How do I get over it? Will I ever understand where he's coming from? How can I move forward? Every day I picture him thinking about this anonymous girl and it breaks my heart. I would appreciate any insight or advice, and someone to talk some sense into me.
– Only Have Eyes for Him, MA
A: I'm so glad that he didn't make empty promises about the pictures. He soothed you and made you feel better without lying. He was a good friend -- and a good boyfriend.
I can't get into the psychology of why people like these pictures, but I can tell you that you're going to have to become more empathetic about your boyfriend's fantasy life. He doesn't really want to be with anyone else. Trust me, if Barbie came up to him in real life -- with her un-photoshopped face and body -- I'm sure that your boyfriend would run away.
Think of these pictures as a good movie or book. They bring him to another place -- and then he returns to his happy reality.
I have to admit that I'm a bit like you. When I'm in a great relationship, the love of my life is generally the center of my fantasy world. That said, I still thumb through celebrity magazines and gawk. I still imagine getting into bed with this -- the equivalent of a Barbie model, at least compared to my old boyfriends. I think about the Barbie ... and then I choose the real world and have a fantasy about what might happen in my actual apartment.
Your guy isn't cheating. He isn't looking at pictures of women you both know. He wants to be with you almost every night of the week.
He sounds pretty great to me. He just needs to learn how to close out of windows on his computer.
Readers? Can someone explain these pictures? Can someone make the letter writer feel better about the fact that the Barbie didn't look like her? Will she ever have fantasies of her own? Discuss.
– Meredith
He doesn't want me there
Q: Hi Meredith,
About four years ago on a summer internship in Europe I met my current boyfriend, "Bob." We were both 20 and had the best summer of our lives. For the next three years we stayed in contact with monthly emails but were not together. Both of us had other relationships, etc. Our reconnection occurred during a family trip last year when I went off to visit him for a few days. That kind of jump-started a new relationship and we began talking on phone and online every day. We've visited each other many times since then and met each other's friends and family. He will be here for many weeks this summer (yay!).
That brings us to now. I am about to graduate and he still has one year of school and then another optional internship year, which he seems very interested in doing. We have discussed the future in that he knows that I am willing to go over there for a year or so with the understanding that I'd be working at a job that I am likely very over-qualified for (I'm a dual EU citizen so visas aren't a problem). He is adamant that when he's done with his obligations he plans on coming to the US to work so that he can be with me. We have discussed how we want to be together. We have the same world views, interests, career goals, love of travel, the list goes on (oh, and we're MADLY in love). There's a future here Meredith, I'm just not sure how to go about it.
I've been applying to jobs both here and in his country (which I love), but I'm so confused. Last week I found a job in my field at his school and applied to it immediately. When I told Bob about it, he freaked. He said that having me in his school would be too stressful. He said he would have to study all next year and would have to ignore me, and that he prefers a long-distance relationship now because I am a great "escape" from his stressful life. He said that I am the best thing in his life right now because I am not in the city and school that he hates. That totally threw me off, as he is well aware that I have been applying for jobs there and that I thought that this would be a great option until we can really be together. I've made it clear to him that I can't do more years of long distance. I think we both deserve someone who can be there for us. He is "looking into" coming over permanently next May (a year earlier than he had planned), but I'm not sure if he is just telling me that because that’s what I want to hear.
My questions are: Is he just a stressed student freaking out about commitment or am I just a place-holder until he isn't bogged down by school? Why would he invest so much if I'm just a place-holder? Should I move to his country for the next year even though it would be a back-pedal on my career? And more importantly, should I move even though it seems that he doesn't want me there? We have an entire summer together to look forward to, but after that it's a big black hole. Thanks for your help.
– One of us is on the wrong side of the ocean, New Haven
A: Honestly, if he doesn't want you over there while he's in school, I want you to end it. You're offering to move to another country so that he can work on his degree. You're not asking for an engagement or some unrealistic commitment. You just want to try the relationship without the distance. He should be thrilled.
You're not with him to be his escape. This isn't about him having somewhere cool to go while he's on summer break. You guys got serious and then he changed his mind. It's possible that the idea of you working in his building freaked him out, but he could have just said that. He could have asked you to find a job outside of his university so that he can maintain some boundaries in his life. Instead he told you to stay in the US so that he can ignore you without feeling bad about it.
You've got the summer and I assume you want to enjoy it after all of this planning. But please use it wisely. Get to know him better. Have some in-person conversations about the next year.
If he doesn't want you there and wants more "escape," you have to escape him. You're in this to be serious. If he's in this for a distraction, it's not enough.
Readers? Am I right? What about this summer? What should she do? Should she keep applying for jobs? Discuss.
– Meredith
He said he was falling -- and then he left
This letter is about half its original length, just so you know.
Q: Dear Meredith,
Five months ago, I started dating a veteran, "Chris."
As cliché as it sounds, I knew I loved him the first day I met him. It's an unexplainable feeling, one I've never felt before. I knew he was the one -- or thought he was. For the majority of the relationship the feeling seemed to be reciprocated. Everything just fell into place. He admitted to feeling the same way, and we had so many plans for the months to come. But now I'm not so sure any of it was ever true. By the end of March, things managed to come to screeching halt.
The week before we stopped speaking lingers in my mind. 1. We had an argument (It took me a while to remember what we were fighting about, that's how stupid it was), 2. He was leaving town for a bachelor party, and 3. We had a pregnancy scare.
The fight was about the fact that he had been moody (an occasional problem) and I brought it up. Shortly after that -- when we had the pregnancy scare -- he was great. He was there for me. Then he went to the bachelor party and returned in good spirits. Then, days later, he ended it without warning. The last thing that he ever said to me after ending it was that he was doing great and didn't want to be friends because just seeing my name show up on his phone reminds him of a time in his life that he much rather forget.
Most people reading this blog would tell me to get over him and move on but that's the problem. The heart feels what it feels. I want to contact him but I'm afraid of the outcome.
I am in my late 20s and at this point I'm so tired of being a fly strip for the world’s most dysfunctional men. How can my feelings for someone be so wrong?
How do people claim to "fall in love" and just walk away? Do you think we could ever be friends again? The way things ended was just so confusing. It happened in a flash. Wednesday, after his trip, he was expressing how much he was falling for me, and Saturday he decided he wanted nothing to do with me.
I guess what it comes down to is that a huge part of me feels betrayed, but more than that I just am not buying into the whole "he was emotionally unstable" bit. Other than getting moody every now and then there had never been any red flags. The biggest part of me feels like he didn't want to be "that guy," so when he knew he was free of any possibility of fathering a child, he jumped ship. I don't know.
Should I write him? If so what do I say?
– Needs closure, NJ
A: You had an intense three months. Too intense, if you ask me. You say that you felt love, but it was really just infatuation. It was excitement. It was hope.
I'm sure that he left because of the fight and the baby scare. The fight bothered him because you were finally bringing up something that bothered you (his moodiness) and he didn't want to be held accountable. And the baby thing just highlighted the fact that as much as he was "falling" for you, he had no plans to stick around in the long run. But let's not worry about his motivation for leaving. Let's focus on your motivation for loving him so much.
You had some good weeks with him. That's all. He never proved himself. He never earned your love or trust. The first few months of a relationship are for deciding whether someone deserves your long-term attention. This guy failed the test.
You're not a fly strip. If you were a fly strip you'd be stuck to the wrong guy. You're just someone who's looking for the right partner, and this guy really messed with your head. I know the heart wants what it wants, so let yourself mourn. Keep in mind that the pregnancy scare probably altered your perception of reality and turned him into someone more important than he was.
Be sad, spend time with friends, and when your heart feels overwhelmed, let your brain take over. It will get better. And there's no need to contact him. You don't need another friend.
Readers? Should she reach out? Why did he leave? Is the bachelor party or the fact that he's a veteran relevant to the discussion? Is she a fly strip? Am I right about the pregnancy scare? Can you fall for someone that quickly? Words of wisdom? Please share them.
– Meredith
He spends his money on concerts
Q: I have a great boyfriend. We have been together for two years and live together. We love to do the same things, have mutual friends, and enjoy each other. I really love him and he is the most important person in my life. I have great girlfriends who support me and I am not afraid to be alone. I know that I am with him because I want to be with him.
The issue is, sometimes he tends to be selfish. He'll buy me a CD as a present but then and open it and download it to his computer before he gives it to me. He will tell me that he will pick something up from the store and never do it.
He always complains about not having any money but then will go and spend hundreds of dollars on concert tickets. He is willing to spend hundreds of dollars and travel hundreds of miles to go see a band but is unwilling to spend $15 on the trash can that I asked him to get the other day. Not only that, because he spends his money on concerts, it has made it impossible to ever take a vacation together. I know I am part of the problem as well -- I won't nag him to follow through and then when he doesn't I am disappointed. I am more disappointed by the fact that when HE needs something, it is done immediately.
I noticed this lackadaisical attitude also translates over to his work as well. He has been working for the same company for years which is great (especially in this economy) but complains and comes home depressed every day. He has shown interest in getting a new job but refuses to take the steps to find a new job (like creating a resume). Three months after he stated he wanted a new job I began looking for a new job, and I have had three interviews. He hasn't finished his resume yet.
We have discussed all of these issues numerous times. Immediately after the conversation it gets better, but then over time he goes back to his old ways.
I guess my questions is, is his lazy attitude a deal breaker? Is this just typical of most men? Should I just be happy with the way things are since he is such a good person and we are so compatible?
– Is good enough, good enough?, Boston
A: This isn't a man thing, IGEGE. There are plenty of guys out there who plan, save, motivate, and get it all done in record time. Your guy just isn't one of them. And he loves music. It's his religion.
My advice is to take charge of the parts of your relationship that affect you. Instead of giving him a speech about his lazy personality and his concert expenses, tell him that he has to give you $30 every Friday for a vacation fund. After a few months of saving (and matching that money), you'll plan a nice, overnight trip for the both of you. Maybe after he sees how much fun it is to get away with you, he'll start making his own plans.
Some people will say that his behavior is a deal-breaker. (Honestly, some people are going to object to the fact that he still buys CDs.) But you wrote a first paragraph that overrides all of these annoyances. You want to be with this guy. You just need a system to avoid the fights. And you need to accept that you fell for a selfish music fan, the kind of guy who wants to spend every penny on that festival in the Midwest or that club show in the city. I'm just happy that he's passionate about something.
Come up with practical solutions instead of nagging. Start with $30.
Readers? Is that first paragraph enough to save the relationship? Is the job application thing so unique? Is all of this a deal-breaker? Anyone have thoughts on the concert stuff? I once spent $250 on a Justin Timberlake ticket. For a show in Philadelphia. Just saying. Help.
– Meredith
We went from making out to a hug
Q: Hi Meredith,
I need an outsider's perspective on this:
I met a guy, "Jack," online about two and a half months ago. We really sparked immediately and even made out at the train station. He was the first guy to really strike my fancy since a bad break up last summer, and we kept it slow but saw each other about once a week. There was lots of kissing and staring longingly at each other but not much more.
Things slowed even further at one point with us not seeing each other for more than two weeks. When we did finally hang out, we suddenly weren't even making out. Now we're at a point where at the end of our last hangout, he gave me a hug.
My frustration comes from the fact that even though I don't see him often, I'm still very attracted to Jack when we do hang out. We laugh, we have spark, we call each other adorable. I feel like he acts like he's still romantically interested in me but he doesn't make any moves any more. Normally I'd just go for it with him, but I'm afraid he wants to be platonic and that's why he's slowed.
So, my question: Do I talk to him about this? Should I ask if he still wants us to be dating or if we've officially moved into friend zone? Or would that just make things awkward and potentially alienate him from me completely? My gut is to ask, but my friends keep telling me to wait it out. It's never been very serious and I'm not looking for him to commit to me. I just want to know if he's now my cool fun buddy or if I can still make out with him like I really want to.
– Befuddled and Bamboozled, Somerville
A: Your friends are wrong, BAB. (Sorry, friends.)
It's been almost three months and you've gone from making out at the train station to hugging goodbye. There's no need to wait this out. Ask him if you're actually dating and why things haven't moved past first base.
My guess is that he's still seeing other people and wants to make sure that your relationship isn't becoming more serious. And if that's the case, do you really want to stick around? I mean, you say that you're not looking for a commitment, but don't you want to be with someone who's excited about you and wants to take steps forward each week? At the moment, your relationship is aging in the direction of Benjamin Button. (Next week you're going to get a high five instead of a hug.)
Ask him what's up and then ask yourself if this is worth pursuing. Because there are a lot of guys out there who will want more. You're not in this for a "cool fun buddy."
Readers? Is he just a nice guy who's trying to take things slow? Should she talk to him or wait this out? Are you put off by the fact that he seems to want to see her less? Cool fun buddy? Discuss.
– Meredith
One of us has to move
Q: Dear Meredith,
For the last two years my boyfriend and I have been separated by 3,000 miles. We see each other for a few days every few months, because as young professionals just starting out (he's 24, I'm 23) that's all we can manage. I have tried to convince myself that it's good enough, that a promise of a tomorrow together makes all the days in between -- even the most miserable ones -- worthwhile.
The truth is, it's not and it doesn't. We both know this. So, after countless phone calls, many arguments, and costly visits, we've decided this is it. Something needs to change. Either we're going to live in the same place and give this a real shot, or we're going to call it quits for good. We have a deadline of two months. If we can't figure out a way to be together by then, we're going to break off our nearly 4-year relationship.
Here's the problem: I just started my job here and can't move. He has been working in his for about two years and is in a better position to leave. But the job market is awful and the career we're both in isn't exactly burgeoning. In fact, most jobs are being shrunk, consolidated, or eliminated. It's unlikely he'll find the kind of work he's been doing if he were to move here, and I'm concerned he won't be able to find a job in the business at all. He's started thinking about going back to school.
Though I know I love him and I want him close, I'm nervous and guilty about asking him to give up his life to be a part of mine. What if things don't work out when we're in the same place? What if he begins to resent me for asking this of him? Is a deadline even practical? Or should we cut our losses now and go our separate ways?
Any advice would be helpful, because the way things are now isn't working for either of us. Staying thousands of miles apart is no longer an option. We need something more.
– Fed up with the distance, Washington D.C.
A: Ask him to move, FUWTD. See what happens.
You're not making any silly promises. You're not pretending that this will be easy -- or that you won't break up after he gets to D.C. You're just saying that you want to try a real, grown-up relationship and that he's in a better position to relocate.
Ask him how you can make the move easier for him. Would it be more desirable if you lived in a specific neighborhood? Can you help him with the job search and introduce him to some contacts?
You say above that you "can't move." But … you can. You just don't want to, and that's OK. If he moves it won't be just because of you. He'll move because he's ready to try something different and you're a part of what he wants.
Tell him what you want from him without feeling selfish about your boundaries. In another two years, after living in the same place, you might feel better about quitting a job and picking up your life for him. You just don't know what your relationship is worth right now. Find out.
Readers? Is it selfish for her to ask him to relocate? Should he move for her? If he does move, will it just be for her? How can she make this easier for him? Are their ages relevant? Help.
– Meredith
Desperately seeking closure
Q: Hi Meredith --
I've spent the last few weeks contemplating this question, and though I'm usually one to know what the "right" answer is, I can't seem to figure this one out. As a faithful reader I figured I'd turn to you and your readers for some advice.
Three months ago I was dumped by a guy I liked … a lot. Initially I thought things were going great and was willing to make a lot of effort in our relationship. I stayed in on nights I wanted to go out, got close to his group of friends, met his parents after just two months together, and even stayed in Boston when I was contemplating a move. He soon proved that he wasn't willing to reciprocate those gestures, and when I asked him to meet me halfway he confessed he had major trust issues. I told him that though we'd only been together for a few months, I cared about him deeply and wanted to be there for him to prove to him he could trust me. Two days later, he gave me the ol' "we need to talk."
Since the night of the breakup we have not exchanged a single word. He immediately defriended me on Facebook (within a few hours -- a trivial thing, but very telling of his deep emotional issues/immaturity) and made it very clear that he wanted absolutely nothing to do with me.
Three months, lots of tears, and a huge heartache later I'm in a much better place. I'm gearing up to quit my job and making plans to travel and to move to New York where I've always dreamed of living.
The thing is, I never got closure. While most of my friends have suggested that he simply copped out -- that he got scared of being committed and vulnerable with someone and the easy answer was to run -- part of me is still incredibly confused as to how and why he was so willing to let go of everything we'd built. This was the guy who, just before we broke up, bought tickets for us to upcoming sporting events, talked about plans for the winter, and kept telling me how much is parents absolutely loved me.
I'm moving to New York in just over a month. Is it worth reaching out to this guy to ask him to ask him all the questions I've been contemplating for months? Part of me is scared to leave Boston without closure, but will his answers satisfy me or just open the wounds all over again? Am I naive to think that a conversation would bring me any peace? Please, help.
– Craving Closure, Boston
A: If you want to hear him ramble and make you feel bad, CC, you're welcome to call him. But I'd rather you just leave it alone.
I mean, what could he possibly say to give you closure?
If you need a speech to make you feel better, just read this (below). Hear it in your guy's voice, because I'm pretty sure I know what he's thinking.
"I'm sorry. I don't know why I bailed but I did. I was all excited about our relationship and then things got … normal. And scary. And I couldn't say for sure that I wanted to stick around and get closer to you. I know that's lame, but that's where I am. At the end of the day, losing you was less scary than keeping you around. That sounds awful, but it's the truth. And that stuff I said about trust? It was just something to say. I trust you. I just can't sustain what I started."
Did that do it? Because that's as good as it's going to get. You were building a relationship, but he was just enjoying himself. And now you get to move to a fabulous city.
I'm all for saying everything that needs to be said, but in this case there's nothing he can say to make this less painful.
My guess is that you're hoping he changed his mind and is just too afraid to call. And if you're feeling that way, you should just keep re-reading that speech above and start packing for new adventures. That's the only way to erase this pain.
Readers? Would it be so bad if she called? Can she get closure? What happened with this guy? Do you have a speech of your own for her? Discuss.
– Meredith
One more try?
Q: Dear Meredith,
About 6 months ago, my boyfriend of less than a year broke up with me abruptly, citing a number of reasons ("It shouldn't be this hard," "I just can't do this," "I'm a loser," and the whole gamut of commitment-phobe type reasons). To say that it broke my heart is an understatement. I truly loved him and still do.
When he first asked me out I was elated but cautious. We had been good acquaintances for years and I always liked him but knew about his commitment issues. I definitely fell for the idea that I was the only girl he had ever loved, and used that as a reason to justify him not being the world's best boyfriend. Throughout our relationship I tried my best to be patient with him through our ups and downs. We fell into a pattern of getting really close, usually following some beautiful love-filled weekend, then he would freak out and backtrack, and then we'd start over again. When we broke up I assumed we'd never get back together as I had done everything possible to try and give him the space throughout our relationship to adjust to being in one. Getting over him was one of the hardest things I've had to go through, but I've made a lot of progress -- applied to school, moved, etc., all the while thinking about him every day.
Then about a month ago, I was asked to make a decision that I thought I would be really happy about. My ex wanted to see me again and see if we could make it work. I was nervous, excited, and afraid all at once. Since that time, we've had a few dates, each one fantastic. But I already see some of the old patterns coming out -- days without talking, unanswered phone calls, and a tendency to regress as soon as we start to talk about our relationship.
So my question is this: How long do I see if we can "make this work?" At 28 I find myself falling for him again, but am so afraid of getting hurt that I can't just let go and trust him. Then when I do decide to let go, I don't hear from him for a couple of days. How do we move into this slowly while still building up our relationship? I love him but am not sure if he really wants to work on our relationship or just misses me and knows I'll always be there for him.
– Do I Give Him Another Shot, Boston
A: I don't have high hopes for this relationship -- in fact, my money's on it lasting another four months -- but you have to finish this cycle with him. Call this your last shot and if he bails on you this time around, you'll know that you did everything you could. I can tell that you need a real final answer and that if you walk away from this right now you'll wonder if he might have rallied. Go ahead and play this out. Destroy the what-ifs.
My big concern is that he might become a great boyfriend. That would be confusing, right? How long would you have to be together before you could trust him again?
For now, just be clear about your needs and then let him do his thing. If he doesn't call for a few days, tell him that his behavior is unacceptable. Make sure that he understands your expectations. If he runs, fine. You'll have your answer.
There should be no walking on eggshells. That didn't work last time. You should embrace this cycle of the relationship by asking for what you want without being petrified of his response.
Again, my money's on another ending, but sometimes I'm wrong. And either way, you have to see where this goes. I want you to be able to walk away from this without any second-guessing.
Readers. We have another fool me twice situation today (sort of) and I want her to play it out. Thoughts? Should she end this now? Can she? What if he behaves this time around? Help.
– Meredith
Am I going to get hurt again?
We chat at 1.
And "New Girl"/"21 Jump Street" fans, Jake Johnson chats at 11:30. Maybe from my desk! If I clean it in time.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I have been dating this guy since last summer. We hit it off right away and things were great ... until his ex came back in the picture. He said he needed to go back to her and make sure he did what he could to make that relationship work. Well, it didn't work and he came back to me after a couple of weeks. A month later, he decided to go back to her. When that didn't work, he came back again and we've been going at it since then. I know, you must be thinking ... didn't this girl ever hear the saying, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me?!" Yes, I have. There is something about this guy that keeps me around.
I expected him to come back and make an effort to tell me or show me that he's here to stay this time. Well, he says and does nothing to tell or show me those things. When I've talked to people about this, they say, "That's how guys are. They don't talk about their feelings." Whenever I bring it up his response is, "What's the rush? Let nature take its course." It wasn't until very recently that he admitted that he knows he needs to step it up. I'm getting to the point where I can't take it anymore. I'm too old for these games. OK, I'm only in my late 20s but this seems like high school behavior to me. I'm a confident girl and I know I deserve better, but I want him to be the one who is better. He says he really likes me, that I'm 100% better than his ex, and that he's just still working on things in his head. She was his first love and the only girl he ever opened up to and she betrayed him. He doesn't want that happening again.
I should probably mention that we've talked about moving out of town together, which would scream commitment to some people but to me only confuses me more. I don't want to move away from my family and friends with someone who hasn't really proven their feelings to me yet.
Do I wait to see if he comes around or do I turn and run before I get hurt ... again?
– Too Old For This, New York
A: I'm shaking my head, TOFT. And the first word out of my mouth after reading this letter was no.
You can't move with him to another city (obviously). Your gut says you should drop him.
He left you twice. And now he's telling you that he "likes" you and that your future together has something to do with nature "taking its course." What does that even mean?
What bothers me most is that he's openly comparing you to his ex. You're 100 percent better than this woman? (Again, how is this possible?) It's shouldn't be you vs. her -- but in his mind it's everything vs. her.
After almost a year of dating he has yet to satisfy you and make you feel special and safe in this relationship.
I'm sorry. I wish I could say that I have faith in his ability to rally but I don't. If you stay with him you're going to exhaust yourself trying to get him to be the right guy. And for the record, this isn't about your age. If you were a 21-year-old asking me this question I'd tell you the same thing.
Readers? Am I being too harsh? Will this guy rally? Should we have more empathy about his bad experience with the ex? Does his desire to move with her imply that he's committed? Discuss.
– Meredith
Is it too soon to ask for more?
Q: I have been dating a man for a handful of months. I started seeing him after getting out of a long and serious relationship. I was reluctant at the beginning to really be out with him because I was scared of hurting my former partner. I think I disappointed him on a number of occasions by not going out.
More recently we have been going out and I am no longer concerned about being publicly involved with someone else. However, not long ago, when I asked about our status, he told me he didn't want a commitment, and I think he said this because he knew he was going to hook up with an ex. He did hook up with his ex, and because we had no commitment I went along and dated and hooked up with others.
His hook-up with his ex-girlfriend didn't work out the way he was hoping, and now he has been acting like he's more into our relationship. I like it and I enjoy his company. I like how it feels when he holds me and feel my heart glow a bit when he does. This scares me because I don't want to get hurt, and so I continue to date other people. That said, I would chose to only see him, if he asked me.
I need to ask: Is it too soon to ask about our status again? The "no commitment" chat was about a month ago. Should I be bothered by being second fiddle -- even though I can understand the draw of an ex? If I am not jealous about the hook up, could I possibly have the feelings I think I do? And how aware should I make him of my dating other people if he doesn't ask questions and has told me we have no commitment? Should I have to ask if he has slept with someone else, if he is sleeping with me? Or should I expect to be told.
– Seems Like a Mess for So Many Reasons, Boston
A: It's not too soon to re-check your status, SLAMFSMR. All you need to say is, "I'm enjoying this more and more and I'd rather not see other people while I figure out where this relationship might go. I'm also not comfortable sleeping with someone who's sleeping with other people." Then ask him how he feels.
People do a lot of weird, passive-aggressive things -- sometimes unintentionally -- when they start a new relationship. You put this guy off to spare your ex's feelings. He put you off to see his own ex. But this relationship is now a few months older and you can safely say that he makes your heart glow. If he knows for a fact that he doesn't want to be with you beyond these casual dates, you need to know.
Just make sure that your question isn't too intimidating. He can't tell you exactly how he feels about you and what he'll want in six months. He can only tell you whether he's having a good time and wants to try for more.
If you don't ask and you continue to date other people as a defense mechanism, you're prolonging the passive-aggressive and tainting what could be a great relationship. Set an example and give him with some honesty.
Readers? Is it time for her to ask about their relationship or is it too soon? Should she continue to date other people? Is it weird that he put her off to pursue his ex? What's happening here? Help.
– Meredith
Her best friend is causing trouble
Q: Hey Meredith,
I'm 24 and have been dating a wonderful girl for almost 8 months. We have a great relationship and recently moved in together. My problem isn't with her, but rather with her best friend!
The friend is one of those people who won't allow others around them to be happy if they aren't. My girlfriend has told me that the friend has never liked any of her ex-boyfriends. The friend and I have always gotten along until recently, when my relationship with my girlfriend became more serious and we moved in together. Since then the friend has instigated fights with me by saying passive aggressive things and even tried to drag my girlfriend into it. To give you a little background, the friend and my girlfriend lived together for the past year until we moved in together so we've all had a lot of exposure to each other. My girlfriend is starting to get fed up with the shenanigans that this girl keeps pulling, but she's afraid to lose her best friend since they've been besties for 11 years.
I keep trying to tell her that if this girl were really her friend she would want her to be happy, but my girlfriend is afraid of losing her even when she's starting all this drama. I'm not one to give ultimatums, but I'm really at a loss for what I should!
I need help!
And for the record, I strongly believe the problem isn't that the girlfriend's best friend is romantically interested in me. I knew her before I started dating my girlfriend.
Thanks!
– Fed up with the Bestie, Mass.
A: You must remain kind, FUWTB. And please, stop telling your girlfriend that her bestie isn't really her friend. That's just not true.
This is going to be a rough transition for your girlfriend and her friend, and you just have to let them get through it. They're in their mid-20s and coping with so much change. I'm not excusing the bestie's bad behavior but I'm not shocked by it. She's acting out because she's scared. You have to combat her bad attitude by smiling and making her feel welcome in your home.
My guess is that the bestie is lonely, jealous, threatened, and perhaps a little bit annoyed that your relationship progressed so quickly. You mentioned that you moved in with your girlfriend after eight months of dating. Did your girlfriend break a lease with bestie by choosing to live with you? Was this an inconvenience? Did bestie expect to live with your girlfriend for another year?
Their friendship is going to evolve into something less intense because it just can't remain this way forever. Bestie will eventually focus more on her own life, and she and your girlfriend will become less tethered, for better and worse.
In the meantime, your best bet (when you really start to lose it) is to excuse yourself from the room and let your girlfriend and her bestie have some space. Don't participate in fights. Don't play games.
This woman has been around for 11 years and you're only eight months into this relationship. Don't encourage your girlfriend to drop her friend. Just stay calm and set an example.
Readers? What's happening here? Am I right about him just staying quiet? Is he allowed to protect himself? Is this about the eight months thing? Or about being 24? Will this get better? When can he speak up? Discuss.
– Meredith
I drove her away
Q: Hi Meredith,
I met my girlfriend in college. We instantly hit it off and fell deeply in love very quickly.
Things were going great. After I graduated I decided to go to grad school and she was happy to come along. We moved in together that year; this was 5 years ago. We have lived together ever since. She is loving, kind, intelligent, and beautiful. My family loves her and she loves them. About a year ago, we decided to move to Boston to pursue bigger and better things. We did not know anyone except for a couple of college friends who happen to live in Boston. We transplanted our life together, and I had plans of proposing to her as soon as I found a steady job.
During the first several months in Boston, I went through a depression about my job search, which was difficult. My girlfriend was supportive and caring, but at the same time she was growing very tired of the situation and said she felt like she was walking on eggshells. It is also true that I have in the past shown a very dark side as far as my temper and mood swings are concerned. I want to make clear that I never touched her, but I would yell and fly off the handle. I never called her ugly names or insulted her, but I will admit that I was condescending and used a mean tone of voice. I have also become less romantic over the years, perhaps even letting her feel as if I didn't care about her.
She eventually told me that she has been going to a counselor about our situation, and that the counselor has informed her that she has to figure out things for herself before committing time to working on our relationship. My girlfriend has asked me for space and says that she does not know if our situation is fixable.
Since this conversation, I have been an absolute wreck. I admit my faults and I know that I can be difficult, but this is the woman that I want to spend the rest of my life with. I have no idea what to do. I have spoken to my family about this and they have helped me out in feeling better about the situation, but I still don't know how to approach it. We live together and we made an enormous move to Boston. I have finally found a job and hoped to propose soon.
I want to give her time to figure out the things that are in her head, but in the meantime I have been left with a huge void in my life. I feel as if I don't know how to act around her anymore. Please help me out, and let me know if this is something that can be fixed.
– Confused and heartbroken, Mass.
A: Is she still in the apartment? Do you see her every day? If so, just enjoy your time with her. Ask her questions. Try to relax with her. For now, take marriage off the table.
You messed up and you can't change that. All you can do is let her know how you feel and show her that you want to do whatever you can to make this work for both of you. Tell her that you'll join her in counseling. Tell her that you'll go to counseling on your own -- because you need it. Explain that your goal is to make her feel good again, even if that means having to leave her alone for a while. You're allowed to say, "I'm scared to lose you and I want to give you what you need."
There is no Control-Z in relationships. You messed up and can't hit "undo." Your only plan of action should be to support her as she makes decisions, ask her how you can help, and try to figure out how you can better cope with bad feelings in the future. You can't promise her that this won't happen again if you don't figure out why you behave the way you do, so get to work. Let her see that you're making this a priority.
Readers? Did he ruin what he had? How can he prove to her that he can make her happy? Can he make her happy? What should he do? How will this end? Help.
– Meredith
Our sex life isn't what it used to be
Q: Hey Meredith,
I feel kind of silly writing in about this but it's a real issue. Let's get right to it without any food-related innuendo (I promise no grilled cheese euphemisms here).
Basically, I am in a phenomenal relationship. My fiance and I -- both in our early 30s -- are like puzzle pieces. All of the obnoxious cliches are true. We are best friends, we never fight, we have each other's best interests in mind, etc. etc. There is no doubt that I want to be near this person on the regular for the rest of my life.
But one thing has gone mysteriously missing ... our sex life. And I'm scared about that. Now I know all about the end of the "honeymoon period" where you're amazed that you even got dressed long enough to leave the house. I know that moving in together can also take some of the steam and sizzle out of the bedroom. We don't have any weird expectations about it happening every night, so it's not even like there's too much pressure on it. What I'm afraid might be happening has unfortunately been confirmed by others who have been in very long relationships or have been married: we're becoming roommates.
We are still very much physically attracted to each other and still in love so it's not disinterest in that sense. But I guess the easiest way to put it is that we just don't think about it as often anymore. I know I was starting to feel that way and so I asked him about it, and he admitted that despite being a guy and the fact that he could pretty much be ready at the drop of a hat if I was so inclined, he doesn't just sit around thinking about it. We've both just become content with each other's company and friendship, and I'm really afraid of letting that comfort level overtake sexual intimacy, which I believe is a really vital ingredient to a healthy, successful relationship.
My bottom line is that I don't know how to make myself get in the mood or how to put us back to a place where it's a priority again without making it this weird agenda item that feels insincere and forced. I find that I often have a hard time relaxing enough to want it, and sometimes, even if the whole mood is set (candles, wine, etc.), I still have a hard time being present. I thought 30s were the sexual peak for women!? I feel slightly defective, and we're not even married yet!
How can we regenerate our sex life in a way that doesn't feel forced or inauthentic? Have your readers in long-term relationships gone through this? How do we avoid the roommate curse on our otherwise perfect relationship?
Thanks for any and all advice,
– Friends with No Benefits, Boston
A: This is about time, FWNB. Sex tends to happen when you're 100 percent focused on your partner -- when you're really listening to them, when you notice the way they breathe ... the way they return your stare. (Cue the Sade.)
In the beginning of a relationship, focus is easy because of the infatuation. But when you get into a daily routine with someone you love, you have to make time to shut out the rest of the world.
Yes, you guys live together. But do you actually have time for flirtatious dinners and naps that involve more than just napping? I'm not talking about cheesy, "inauthentic" dates with candles. I'm talking about real hangout time. Make sure that your quality hours together aren't just about paying bills, planning a wedding, and eating in front of the television quickly so that you can pass out before the next day.
Also, sex is great and all, but hand-holding is a lovely gateway drug. I'm not talking about walking-down-the-street hand-holding. I'm talking about we're-on-the-couch-and-touching-just-for-the-sake-of-it hand action (yeah, I just said hand action -- be grown-ups). When you get close for no good reason, your brain is reminded of the possibilities.
Make time. Stay relaxed. Don't put too much pressure on yourself. Work the gateway drug. Evaluate again after a few more months.
Readers? Is this normal? Any suggestions? Will their sex life return? Does it ever get better? What can they do without trying too hard? Tips, please.
– Meredith
He won't exercise
Q: Hi Meredith!
My boyfriend and I have been together for a little over 2 years. We are in our mid-to-late 20s, live together, have pets, talk about marriage and kids, but are in no rush to take the plunge ... just enjoying what we have and where we are for now.
When we first started dating, we would go on hikes and other athletic activities together 4 to 5 days a week. I was a runner by hobby and being active was a big part of my life. He enjoyed being active and shared an interest in staying physically fit as well. After we moved in together, it became more and more difficult to get him to join me in the gym or just a walk outside. After a minor running injury last fall, I found myself sitting on the couch with my boyfriend and becoming sedentary. Depression set in and I (and my boyfriend) gained weight. We were both in a rut.
A few months ago, I picked myself up and decided to make a lifestyle change. I'm back into a workout routine where I'm constantly challenged and setting goals. I have a more positive outlook, I'm noticeably happier, and I'm getting back into a body I'm more comfortable in. I'm working on becoming the best me I can be, not just for myself, but for my relationship. I know that only when you are happy with yourself, can you extend that happiness to your partner.
Here's my dilemma: I need to get my boyfriend off the couch. He's still in a rut and I KNOW he was 100x happier when he was physically active (he's told me so). I know his weight gain has bothered him and he often talks about how he used to be healthier and athletic. I've asked him to run, weightlift, elliptical (anything!) with me, but he doesn't want to. I've encouraged him to work out on his own by telling him how much I enjoy a little alone time with my thoughts, but he doesn't want to do that either. We have tons of workout equipment in our apartment, I have a gym membership that allows me to bring a guest, and we live near some beautiful state parks with trails. I don't know what to do. I love him and I'm crazy about him (he can make me laugh like no one else), but I see so much potential in him to be so much happier with himself ... he doesn't get it. Honestly, I don't have a problem with his weight gain. I'm just as attracted to him now as when we first met. It has everything to do with his attitude. He never wants to do anything and he's crabbier more often than he used to be. The most I can convince him to do is occasionally go for a walk, but after less than a mile, he calls it quits.
I'm all for separate interests and individuality, but it's hard to come home after accomplishing a small victory in the gym to my boyfriend who’s only interested in the TV. I'd love to hear about his accomplishments for the day, but other than work, he's not doing anything.
It almost seems like the more I accomplish in my athletic life, the less he wants to hear about it. I mean, I trained for months for an intense team relay race across the state and I couldn't get him to come to watch one of my three legs of the race (and it went right through our town!). He's supportive in other ways, but when he chooses not to be a part of such a big accomplishment like that it really hurts my feelings. He shows almost no interest when I come home after accomplishing a personal best lift or shed a few seconds off of my mile pace, so I've stopped talking about it.
I guess my questions would be: How can I convince my boyfriend to get off the couch and experience things (like he used to)? Am I trying to change someone who doesn't want to be changed, or trying to bring out the best in someone? Should I lay off of him and hope he eventually comes around when he gets sick of being in his rut? Any and all advice is greatly appreciated!
– Running for Help, Mass.
A: Lay off, RFH. I get what you're trying to do, but he wants a girlfriend, not a personal trainer. You can tell him that you're worried about him based on his moods, but please stop trying to get him to run around and then celebrate your athletic accomplishments. I'm sure that he's proud of you, but it's probably tough for him to separate your milestones from his own habits and how you feel about them.
Something tells me that you're more aggressive about exercise this time around and that it's making him feel lonely. You used to like hikes. Then you liked television. Now you're someone who sets new lifting records. He probably wants a happy medium.
My advice is to stop with the exercise talk and ask him out. If he's not doing anything, maybe he wants to go to the movies. Or to the library. Or to a nice restaurant. Maybe you can take one of your gym nights and turn it into a great date night. Prove that you want to spend time with him without training him.
I'm not blaming you for any of this, by the way. It's great that you're active. I just think that he's overwhelmed -- and that he's never going to be the type of guy who's into relay races. I mean, was he ever that guy? Focus on improving the time you spend together without connecting your activities to weight loss. Understand that watching TV with someone can actually be a really great way to bond. Maybe if you drop the issue for a while he'll find exercise on his own terms, without an audience.
Readers? Is it so terrible that he watches TV every night? Is she too obsessed with working on her fitness? Should she drop the subject or should she be worried about him? What should she do? Help.
– Meredith
Ambivalent about the man of my dreams
Q: Dear Meredith,
I've been a longtime reader of your column and finally have a problem that I think is worthy of your attention!
My boyfriend and I have been together for over 4 years. We met in college and now live together. Like any long-term couple, we have been through ups and downs but have managed to work through it all. We share similar life values, money styles, parenting beliefs, and career ambitions. We are on the same page about having a family, how we want to raise our kids, and how we see our future going.
He is a wonderful person -- funny and smart, hard-working, stable, kind, and totally committed to me. Whenever we talk about the future, he always says that he doesn't care when we get married, but he wants to spend the rest of his life with me and so he's ready whenever I am.
And that's the problem. When I think about marrying him, I have to wonder if he's really the right person. Maybe I'm expecting a fairy tale, but I just feel like something is missing. We don't really have a spark anymore and the passion from our relationship has definitely dwindled. We have sex, but it feels like I'm having sex with a close friend, not the man of my dreams. When I think about raising kids with him or buying a house with him, I know he would be the most wonderful partner. But when I think about passion and romance and sex, I come up empty.
I tell myself that real love is built on mutual respect and willingness to work things out, that sex comes and goes ... and isn't a man who thinks I'm beautiful and wonderful and wants to have a life with me more important than bed-rockingness? But still, there's a voice in the back of my head that says, "This is it?"
I think about leaving but the idea of someone else being with him and having to start over alone always stops me. Leaving him would mean completely changing my life -- giving up my home and my life partner.
So do I break things off now because I don't feel the spark? Or am I just waiting for a Disney princess ending that doesn't exist? I'm afraid that I'm never going to meet someone who I respect like my boyfriend and who treats me so well, but I also want a life that's filled with passion and someone who knocks my socks off.
– Ambivalent, NYC
A: This hurts to write, but you have to let him go. You found a husband long before you were ready to have one. You're already wondering who else might knock your socks off. This isn't an I-fear-the-grass-is-greener question; this is about you being bored of your grass altogether.
If I told you that a socks-rocking guy was already waiting in the wings, you'd bolt, right? You can't start a marriage if that's how you feel.
You mention the fear of being alone. You mention the fear of someone else snagging your wonderful guy. But you seem less concerned about having to go through new experiences without him by your side.
After four years of dating, some people are begging for a ring. You're looking for a way to avoid one.
You said it best: "I don't feel the spark." That's your answer. After four years of dating the perfect guy, that's where you are.
Readers? She seems to have it all. Any way she can save this? Can she get the spark back? If she bails will she regret it? Is this a Disney princess issue? What should she do? Help.
– Meredith
Can I bring up marriage at 5 months?
Q: Dear Meredith,
About 5 months ago, I met a great guy. He is nice, funny, and most importantly, "normal." So far this has been one of the healthiest relationships I have had in a long time. However, there is one problem: He's 27 and I'm 30. Like most women my age, I am looking for someone who is looking for a more serious commitment. And when I say serious, I of course mean marriage and family. I'm not saying I want/need all of this tomorrow, but I would like for this to happen within the next few years.
All of my friends are engaged or married and naturally it's something I want as well. My problem is that I don't believe this new man in my life (let's call him Frank) is ready for all of this. Frank still lives at home and never discusses these topics with me. Now I understand that it has only been five months and I am rushing into things here, but I want to know that these are things he is hoping for as well. My question is, do I stay and hope that within the next few years (if we are still dating) that he will want marriage, etc. -- or do I leave and hope to find someone else who wants those things that I want right now? Also, do I bring the subject up (and how, without scaring him off)? I don't need to hear that he is going to want to marry me tomorrow, but I would like to have the peace of mind of knowing that this is something he thinks about and that I'm not wasting my time.
Please help!
– Ringless in Rockland
A: It's too soon to ask this guy whether he's ever going to marry you, but it's not too soon to talk about life goals. That's a part of the dating process no matter how old you are. High school kids talk about whether they see themselves in college. New grads talk about whether they want to move to the same city. Sixty-something retirees talk to new partners about how they'd like to spend their free time.
You're absolutely allowed to ask your "normal" guy what he wants to do with himself over the next few years. He'll probably ask you too, and then you can say, "I want to be happy. I also want to be married to someone awesome who makes me laugh."
In another six months you can have a more specific conversation, but for now you can get a lot from a few discussions about hopes and dreams. If he tells you that his dream is to still be living at home in two years -- or to move to another country -- you can make decisions accordingly. But if he says, "In two years I want to be in my own place with an amazing girlfriend" ... well, that's a start. If he says, "I have no idea what I want," well, that's just honest -- and at least he'll know where you stand.
Five months isn't about big answers -- it's about asking a million little questions.
Readers? Is their age difference significant? Should she bring this up at all? Will it help to keep the focus on herself and her own wants and needs? When can she have a real discussion about marriage? Should she bail now? Help.
– Meredith
They bail after a month
Q: Hi Meredith,
My story is this: A guy I knew through a friend asked me out. I was flattered and said yes. We had a great first date that quickly turned into a second, third, and fourth date. He texted and called when he said he would, and even when he didn't. I was very cautious though; I had been through a similar experience where the dating hit the one month mark and the guy ran for the hills. This guy seemed different, though. I traveled out of state one weekend and he checked in everyday, seemingly very interested in my life. He even said he was ready to be dating exclusively. I was really happy.
One night, a week after saying he wanted to be exclusive and not see anyone else, he came over for what was supposed to be a dinner date. Instead, he completely freaked out, first saying he wasn't ready for a relationship. He said that *if* we kept dating and got to the point where it became a relationship, he wasn't sure if he would say yes so he didn't want to waste my time, and so on. I knew something wasn't right because his story kept changing. Did I mention this was completely out of the blue? Just the night before he had sent me a goodnight text that said he was so excited to see me the next day.
I rationalized every point he brought up, defended myself by saying I, too, wasn't looking for a relationship right now, that we had only been dating a month so obviously things were not that serious and that he was freaking out for no reason. He came in wanting to end things on the spot, but when he left he said he needed some time to process and think about what I had said. (Also, this was a few days before we hit the one month mark of dating).
It has been over a week. Not a single phone call. Four days in, I sent him a text saying look, don't feel bad either way but I don't want to be kept waiting ... and he responded, "I definitely feel bad either way," but nothing more. I have no idea what went wrong. I played everything right by the man book. He said he could be exclusive and then a week later changed his mind? I thought he was a good guy and I trusted him. I really want closure, but part of me thinks it isn't worth it to call him and confront him. Should I try to get the whole story? Or do I just have to forget it without closure?
– The Month-Long Curse Strikes Again, Arlington, VA
A: Forget him, TMLCSA. He doesn't have any answers for you. If he comes up with any, I'm sure he'll call.
This happens sometimes. It doesn't mean that there's a one-month curse. It just means that all new relationships are fragile.
We spend the first few weeks of every relationship getting to know someone so we can decide whether we want them to stick around. Your guy was a confusing mess who committed too quickly and didn't keep any of his promises, but that's why you should be happy to be rid of him after four weeks. You saw his true colors pretty quickly. That's a blessing, not a curse.
I want to remind you that there is no man book. It doesn't exist. All you can do is treat people the way you want to be treated, ask questions, and take your time. You barely knew this guy but you were more concerned about snagging him than figuring him out. Were you really ready to commit to him after just a month?
You're allowed to be disappointed, but please, don't mourn him for longer than you dated him.
Readers? Is there a curse here? Man book? Did she commit too quickly? What happened here? Should she call him? (I'm adding "I definitely feel bad either way" to my list of Love Letters favorites, by the way.) Help.
– Meredith
Should I let her go this soon?
Q: Hi Meredith,
I have a relationship question and I'd appreciate some insight -- mostly because I'm uncomfortable with the advice that my friends are giving me.
I'm 37 years old and still single. I live alone, am gainfully employed, and either 1) I'm generally disinterested in what I perceive to be the requirements of being in a relationship, or 2) I just haven't found someone I'm truly interested in. Most of friends are married and having kids, and these are the guys I've gone to for advice.
Right now I'm dating a woman who's smart, good looking, and for the most part easy to get along with. It turns out she's also a little insecure, and any issue we've had over the past two months has been about "the attention I give her" (she wants more). We typically see each other once or twice a week, and touch base one other time (text or phone call). Ultimately, to me, it just seems that she's more into this relationship than I am.
Now here's where opinions diverge. I believe I should tell this woman (who's 30 years old and likely pursuing her own relationship goals in life) that this just isn't working out with the understanding that we'd either be seeing more of each other (if I was on her wave-length) or she wouldn't be upset with how often we see each other (if she were on mine). I see this as responsible.
My friends, however, have accused me of being a patronizing idiot who's over-thinking the situation. "Do what you want," they counsel, "and be super clear about where you stand, and she'll do what's best for her." To my question of whether someone with self-esteem issues would ever break-up with someone unless it was unbearable, they simply say "this is why you're still single." I certainly don't want to think or act for two people (another of my friends' charges), but I guess I think in a healthy relationship you shouldn't have to.
And so I'm kicking this one upstairs for further review. Am I over-thinking this relationship? Are my friends counseling me to string her along? What else should I consider (if anything)?
– Damned if I do or don't, NJ
A: Has it really only been a few months, DIIDOD? If that's the case, you need to give this more time. You're just starting to get to know her.
You also need to stop referring to this woman's self-esteem issues -- because I'm not convinced that she has any. She wants to see you more often. That doesn't mean that she's some wilting flower who feels bad about herself. Please don't frame her loving qualities as personality flaws.
My advice, besides hanging on, is to increase the number of times you see her in a week. Invite her over to watch TV. See if it's fun to have her around more often. I completely understand that you don't want to string her along or make decisions for two people, but you're not doing that just yet. You're figuring this out for yourself because you're clueless. You don't know how you feel about her. If after more time with her you become increasingly ambivalent, sure, by all means, let her go.
The big thing to understand is that this woman isn't a ball of issues just because she wants attention. Humans like attention. You wouldn't want to date a robot. Get to know this human a little bit more and test your limits so that you can make an educated decision about what you really want.
Readers? Should he let this woman go? What do you think of what his friends are telling him? Are there self-esteem issues here? Should he date someone who's more like him? Help.
– Meredith
When will I be forgiven?
Congrats to film critic Wesley Morris who won a Pulitzer Prize yesterday.
(Let's not forget that he likes the movie "Wild Things.")
Q: I have an amazing boyfriend. We've been together for well over a year and live together. I'm in my mid 20s and he's a couple of years older. Let's call him John.
When John and I met, we had an instant connection. After dating several weeks, we easily transitioned into spending almost every day together. We decided to move in together sooner than one might expect.
Living together has worked out very well overall, and I can see myself spending the rest of my life with him. However, when we were having some problems, I met another guy who I started flirting with online. Nothing physical ever happened, but I knew the brief interaction was wrong. I knew that I would end the "affair." I liked the extra attention, but I loved my boyfriend more. But -- before I ended it -- my boyfriend found out. To say it was a horrible feeling that I would probably lose my boyfriend is an understatement. I have never felt so guilty in my life (or done anything like this). I still feel incredibly guilty. He ultimately forgave me and wants to stay together.
I learned my lesson. I love him in a way that I never thought was possible. He has told me he feels the same. Based on some conversations, I think we would be engaged now if I hadn't sought attention elsewhere. We've talked through our problems, and we're much better about communicating. We both really want this to work. The major issue left is rebuilding his trust in me. Based on some questions he asks me, he still needs reassurance that I'm not going to leave him. However, we've started planning longer term again (things like vacations). I'm taking that as we're moving in the right direction.
As much as I love John, I also fear being in a relationship that goes on for years and never leads to marriage. I understand that we need time, but I'm unsure of when it's safe to say that he will never trust me/be ready for that step. I know it's not now, since it's only been a few months. However, in a couple more months we'll have to decide whether we want to renew our lease. I've specifically not raised the topic of marriage, but before we commit to another year together I also need some assurance that we're moving in the right direction. Is there a safe way to raise the topic without pushing him? I'm not looking for a proposal now, but I want to know it will happen if we stay together. I'm also wondering what's reasonable before I start pressing the issue. Is a year after my screw up okay, should I wait more, less?
Thanks for any advice!
– Unsure How to Proceed, Boston
A: You're not entitled to answers right now, UHTP.
If you guys decide to renew the lease, that's a big step, but you shouldn't pretend that it represents more than it does. You certainly shouldn't demand answers that your boyfriend doesn't have.
You don't have any answers either, by the way.
I mean, do you know that you want to marry him? Because I'd argue that you're still figuring it all out. Don't confuse guilt and the desire to be forgiven with the desire to commit to someone for life. I understand that you don't want to waste years living with someone who doesn't want to marry you, but you also don't want to jump into marriage for the wrong reasons. You guys are just not there yet. Not even close.
My advice is to get through another full lease before you even think about having the conversation (with him -- or yourself). Reevaluate then. And please, don't spend the whole year trying to please him so that he forgives you. Just love him and be normal. That's the best way to get answers.
Readers? Is her desire to commit being ruled by guilt? Should she sign another lease? When is she allowed to feel normal in this relationship again? Can you give her a timeline for her next move? Discuss.
– Meredith
I lack experience
Happy Patriots Day.
Happy Marathon Monday.
Because it's a holiday, I'm running a letter that's urgent -- but similar to another letter that we dealt with last year.
Be kind. Stay hydrated.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I have an awkward issue that until recently I was never embarrassed to admit. I'll be turning 28 in a few months and I've never been in a serious relationship and am still a virgin. For some vague background: I had some serious life issues in high school and a social life was the last thing on my mind. By the time I got to college, I was just trying to calm down and relax, and was more interested in friendship and my schoolwork. After college, there was more turbulence in my life and when everything finally straightened out, the last thing I wanted to do was enter a relationship. I went through some rough years and I admit I had some trust issues because of it.
My life has finally been on a good path for the past year or so, and I figured it was time to explore that unknown territory of dating. Going on dates isn't my problem. The problem is letting anything progress into a relationship or having sex. To be honest, I never thought I should be ashamed of my lack of experience, but I know people can be cruel about it. People tend to either laugh in disbelief and pity, think I'm joking, or wonder what's wrong with me. And I know that you're supposed to go through the awkward learning stages of dating and sex in high school and college. I'm pretty sure men my age won't find it charming to have to take on the responsibility of teaching me about sex and dating. I've found that they're usually looking for someone who has it all together.
So, I need some advice on what to do. Am I worrying too much about this? Is my problem weird? How do I go about admitting to someone that I'm almost 30 and completely new at this?
– New at this, Boston
A: First of all, no one has it all together. Second, you have life experience that others don't have. While your peers were dating and having sex, you were learning how to get through tough times on your own. That makes you experienced. Just in a different way.
We learn from every relationship, which means that when you start dating someone new, you'll have plenty to teach.
My advice is to get comfortable with your status in your own head and understand that even the most sexually experienced people fumble through new relationships. Ignore anyone who is cruel -- but if someone scoffs because they are surprised, give them a moment to recover and apologize.
Also, you don't have to volunteer this information until you're ready to disclose the other details about your past (those serious life issues). Something tells me that if you put your lack of experience in context, it won't be that much of a shock.
There's no right time to tell someone this stuff, but you should probably wait until you're having one of those lets-share-everything conversations. And when you're having that talk, make sure you ask him about his life. He'll have his own stories to tell and they might make you scoff in surprise.
Readers? When should she volunteer this? Is it a big deal? Are people really cruel about this stuff? Discuss.
– Meredith
He doesn't want to get married
Q: Dear Meredith,
I am a successful, never-been-married woman in her late 30s who has been in a wonderful relationship with a divorced man in his late 40s for about 18 months. By all accounts, this has been the most fulfilling relationship I have ever been in on many levels. He is a funny, loving, smart, and generous man who is also a standout father to his three (now older) children from his previous marriage. His children have grown up to be smart and polite human beings who also treat me with great respect and for whom I have grown to care deeply.
So where does my problem lie? Well my boyfriend made it clear initially that he never wants to get married again. He had a terrible first marriage and his parents also had difficulties in theirs. He has also has seen the marriage of many of his friends end in bitter divorce, whereas I was raised with parents who have been blissfully married for 50+ years and I have many friends in (seemingly) happy marriages. Of course I thought that I could change his mind over time, but I am beginning to realize I was naive in thinking so. Over the years my perception of the importance of marriage has diminished to some degree, and I truly believe my boyfriend and I could have a great long term relationship for many years to come. That being said, I almost feel like I am selling myself short in this deal as I have been nothing but a wonderful girlfriend and often ask myself why I need to pay the price now for his ex-wife's terrible behavior?
By stating he will never again remarry, I take it as a personal insult that I myself am not good enough to marry, which I know is not the case. My dilemma now is whether to stay in this (almost) totally fulfilling relationship and just try to come to peace with the fact that it won't end in marriage, or do I cut my losses and hope to find something half as fulfilling with someone I might not care as deeply about, but who is at least willing to show long-term commitment to me? I am hoping your readers who are married can shed some light on the big question here: "Is marriage totally overrated and should I just be happy with what I have got?"
– Do I need a ring to make me happy, Cambridge
A: We're not really talking about marriage here, DINARTMMH. This is about love and commitment. You want to be with someone who plans to stick around, even when things get rough. There's nothing overrated about that.
If your guy told you that he wanted to grow this relationship with the hope of being together forever, would you be satisfied? If he began to treat you like a partner -- as opposed to a girlfriend -- would it be enough? I think it would. Because you don't seem desperate for a ring or a wedding. You just want to know that he feels bound to you.
Many people aren't comfortable with the idea of marriage. That doesn't mean that they can't commit. Your guy, however, seems to be saying that he doesn't buy into the idea of lifelong relationships. And you do. That's not good.
You don't want to be a girlfriend forever. Talk to him and explain your needs. Find out what he wants ... as opposed to what he wants to avoid. If he intends to keep things status quo forever, you can't stick around. You're capable of so much more.
Readers? Should she be happy with what she has? Is this about marriage or commitment? Do you think he's more committed to her than he lets on? Is her age relevant? Should she even settle for a committed non-marriage? Help.
– Meredith
Is this love or lust?
Q: I love your column. There are so many entries about how to conduct yourself in a relationship. My problem is that I don't really know how to have a relationship, and that I want one with a younger man I recently met. The man is a dreamboat -- smart, funny, witty, handsome, driven, and a successful actor. He is five years younger than I am (he is in his mid-20s). We have intense physical and mental chemistry. We've only been out five or more times and were intimate on our second date (which was amazing). Now I can't do anything except think about him. I want to see him and be with him all of the time. I know I really want a relationship because I haven't had a serious relationship ... basically ever. The actor and I have discussed our past dating history. He knows where I'm coming from, and we agreed that we wouldn't put any pressure on the relationship and would see how things go. He doesn't seem like a player -- but I am so skeptical.
He continually stops by my place but also has joked that he is fine with me "until someone better comes along." He really seems to like being with me and is very emotionally and physically aware of how great our chemistry is when we are together. When we are apart, however, he doesn't go out of his way to ask me how I'm doing, and he's not taking me out for dinners and walks along the harbor (I'm a romantic, can you tell?).
I have dated men who have "wined and dined" me, however the chemistry was never there. With this younger man, the chemistry is there but I am pessimistic about whether he will want a mature relationship or one that makes me feel emotionally fulfilled and loved. Am I wasting my time? Should I stick through it and possibly get hurt in the end? (Did I mention he is very sexy and verrrry attractive???)
Thanks, Meredith...
– In Lust or In Love?, Boston
A: You're in lust and it sounds fantastic, ILOIL.
Not every relationship is meant to go the distance. And sometimes we get hurt by the mature guys who wine and dine us. All I know is that you're enjoying this, so by all means continue.
Usually relationships like this run their course in their own time. Yours will either get deeper and more satisfying ... or it'll start to feel very, very shallow, and the actor's verrrry attractive face will become less stunning because your emotional needs will begin to cancel out the physical.
I don't like his "until someone better comes along" joke, but I assume it's just a joke. It's certainly not a deal-breaker, because frankly, after five dates or so, you don't know whether you might dump him if someone better comes along.
You want this right now and you're learning, which means it's not a waste of time. Go have fun. Stare at the phone. Make out with your very sexy actor. Just stay on top of your feelings and be honest with yourself if/when the relationship turns from exciting to tiring. And in the meantime, if you want to take a long walk by the harbor, just ask. He's learning too. Be clear about your needs.
Readers? Is there any potential here? Does there have to be? What about his not-so-nice joke? Is this just a fling? Is it relevant that he's an actor? Is she as inexperienced as she thinks she is? Help.
– Meredith
Why didn't it work?
I can't chat today because I'll be out of the office planning a Love Letters event, which you will hear about very soon. I promise I'll make it up to you.
Q: I just wanted to pick your brain about a situation I had last year. I am a man in my late 20s, and I met a girl (same age) last year who I dated for about 4 months. It obviously wasn't that serious, but for some reason the lost potential still bothers me.
We met on an online dating site and things started off really well. However, after a few dates, I started getting vibes that she was already ready to be in a relationship with me, which freaked me out a little bit. I'm pretty selective about who I date, and although I liked her, I didn't want to rush things and I didn't want to give her the wrong impression so I pulled back a bit. But then as I got to know her, I realized that this is just her personality -- she's an extreme extrovert who gets excited and wears her heart on her sleeve while I am more reserved and don't always show a lot of emotion. Regardless, we continued dating, and I began to see that she really was an awesome person. I started developing feelings for her and I was beginning to think that there could actually be some long-term potential.
I don't fall for too many girls like that, and it had been years since I had felt that way about anyone. But there was one thing that was a little frustrating/weird to me -- she was never available to hang out on weekends. She grew up in another state and went to college in a different state, so a lot of her friends live elsewhere, and she would make plans for weekend visits weeks/months in advance. I would ask her early or mid-week what her plans were for the weekend, and it was always the same answer -- she already had plans. After getting this response a number of times and then having her tell me her weekends were basically booked solid for 3 months, I lost a lot of motivation. I wanted to start making more of an effort, but I felt limited in what I could do, as the only time I could see her was on Sunday nights and one or two other nights during the week, and it got to the point where all we did was sit on the couch, order take-out, watch TV, and go to bed. As I looked back on it after things ended, I realized we had never gone out together on a Saturday night, and she never had the chance to meet any of my friends, which I think is an important part of getting to know someone.
I was pretty baffled when she broke things off, saying that things weren't progressing and that she had lost the feelings she once had because of my seeming lack of interest/effort, and that the push-back she felt from me in the beginning is what made her start to shut down. To be fair, I was not great about calling/texting just to chat between the times we hung out … but part of the reason was that I wasn't ready to do that when all I could get from her was weeknights. I don't need too much in a relationship and I actually like it when a girl has her own friends and a life, but at some point, social lives usually start integrating at least a little bit.
The reason it still bothers me is because we got along well, seemed to have similar values, and we both really liked each other ... just at different times -- her at the beginning and me at the end. I did ultimately let her know how I felt and I (regrettably) pleaded with her to give it another chance to try and make it work, but she was just done. What really killed me was that as she was breaking things off, she told me that on paper I am exactly what she wants, but she didn't think she could get back the feelings she once had. I've been out with a number of girls since all this, had a couple 1-month stints, and have felt some decent connections, but nothing like what I felt with this girl last year, so I'm left with a lot of regrets about the whole thing because I think we could have made things work if we had just communicated better and discussed things sooner.
So here are my questions: Was it normal for me to pull back like that in the beginning when I felt like she was coming on so strong, or should I have embraced it? How often should a guy be calling/texting with a girl during the first few weeks/months when he sees (and sleeps with) her twice a week? Was I wrong in thinking her expectations for relationship progression were unrealistic when we never saw each other on weekends?
– Can't Believe I Am Writing to a Dating Column, Boston
A: I'm not convinced that this is your fault, CBIWTADC, at least not the stuff that happened at the start of the relationship. We're all a bit weird when we're trying to figure out whether we like someone. You pulled back -- but then you stuck it out and rallied. You wanted more and more of her time and you made that clear. In the end, she broke it off and you pleaded with her to stay.
Of course, it would have been great if you had said, maybe during month two, "I'm starting to feel slighted that you can't see me on weekends -- and I’m desperate to see you on a Saturday night and wake up with you on a Sunday." But she could have asked you to come with her on a weekend trip. And she absolutely could have cancelled plans with friends to spend some time figuring you out. She didn't make you a priority.
And as for the texts, don't even think about them. You wanted to see her in person. That's all that counts. Texts don't make or break a relationship.
I need you to know that you're not as smitten with this woman as you think you are. You liked her a lot, but the relationship had serious flaws, and you were never really satisfied with the way she handled herself. You need someone who makes you feel comfortable, someone who encourages you to be honest. This woman inspired you to feel helpless and passive-aggressive. You've learned a lesson about communication for sure, but I believe that this relationship would have ended no matter what. So let her go and give some of these other women more than just a month of your time.
Readers? Am I right to say that this would have ended no matter what? Or is he just so silent about things that she thought he wasn't interested? Should she have cancelled her weekend plans? Did he fail by distancing himself in the beginning? Is this about everybody wanting what they can’t have? Discuss.
– Meredith
I fell for his friend
Q: My ex broke up with me about a year and a half ago after 7 years together. He dragged his feet through the breakup and it was really painful for me. Despite all of that, I moved forward, took control of my never-been-single-before life, and moved into the city. I got a new job and landed on my feet. I still missed him terribly, but I pushed forward. Because we were together for so long, we had a lot of mutual friends. While it was painful, it wasn't a bad breakup, and we both maintained those friends so we crossed each other's paths on occasion.
When I moved to the city, most of my friends were too far away to randomly hang out, so I took advantage of those who were close by. One of whom was a mutually close friend, and happens to be one of my ex's best friends, since, like, ever. He and I hung out regularly, sometimes in groups, sometimes by ourselves. Our relationship was completely platonic, but we had a lot of the same interests and also had been through similar situations in terms of breakups, so we kind of supported each other. He was the best friend I could have asked for, always giving me advice about what to do and not to do to get my ex back, and also telling me when I needed to just back off and let it be. He called me out when I needed it, and not many people do that for me.
At the end of this past summer, I started texting my ex, inserting myself back in his life and trying to make it "easy" for him to get me back. Our friend told me not to, but for some reason I thought it was the right thing to do at the time. We talked, had a few casual evenings, but all of them were pretty much after a group hang out. We never went on a "date" -- we grabbed a drink together, alone, ONCE. And I asked.
I put in all of the effort. Without going into too much detail, it took me a few months to realize I should have never put myself on that silver platter to make things easy for him because I was clearly not a priority. I backed off. THEN he came running -- when he realized I wasn't there anymore. As far as I'm concerned, I'm done.
Getting back with him, I realized, was the easy thing. I had dated around a little since the break up and wasn't really meeting new people, and this relationship was already established. We already had a history. But how could I go back to someone who clearly didn't have the gall to try to get me back himself? If he wanted to be with me, he would have been with me. He had ample opportunity. I made it clear how I felt. I just wanted him to want it. And to act on it. And he didn't.
And then about a month ago, I got drunk. And I kissed my friend -- our mutual friend. And drunkenly said some things about how I felt about him. And we met up the next day and had a conversation and it turned out we have feelings for each other. Like, real feelings. Like, heart skipping a beat, can't catch your breath feelings. And I can't make them stop. But they are best friends. We both know how we feel and know it isn't going away, but ... it's still his best friend. I'm skeptical about how this all plays out ... but we both really want to try.
– What do I do?, Anywhere
A: What happens next isn't really your decision, WDID. It's up to your friend-turned-crush, the guy who'll have to tell his best buddy that he plans to pursue you.
Is this guy willing to risk his friendship with your ex? That's what you have to find out. If he is, and you can say for sure that you aren't going to run back to your ex (you're positive about that, right?), you can commence this new relationship, which seems to have great potential.
(Honestly, if you aren't sure about the ex, hit pause on everything.)
My guess is that your friend-crush will risk his relationship with your ex in order to move forward because, well, he already has. Frankly, if he wasn't interested in taking the risk he would have set some very clear boundaries with you from the start. But he didn't. And you fell for each other. And you've already kissed. And liked it.
Tell your friend-crush that you're ready whenever he is. Talk to him about all of the possible outcomes with the ex and discuss how you'll navigate any discomfort. Assure him that you'll be there for him no matter what. Because you will, right?
At some point, after the new guy tells your ex about his feelings for you, you should do the classy thing and reach out to let your ex to let him know that you acknowledge the awkwardness of this. Tell him that you will always care for him, that you've appreciated his civility, and that you hope everyone can continue to get along. You were together for seven years and he's in your heart. And that's OK, as long as you're being honest with everyone -- especially yourself -- about what you want for your future.
Readers? Do they owe anything to the ex? Do you believe that she won't change her mind about the ex? Does this new relationship have potential or should she start looking outside of her immediate circle? Should she reach out to the ex to explain all of this? Help.
– Meredith
My ex or a new not-so-committed love?
Q: I started dating this guy when were in our early 20s. We fell in love quickly and moved in together for three years, and then lived separately for various reasons for another five years. We moved back in together again five years ago, and one of the conditions of my moving back in with him was that we would get engaged and married shortly thereafter. However, my boyfriend kept putting it off, saying he was scared, wasn't ready, etc. I gave him an ultimatum and we tried couples counseling but nothing worked. I gained a lot of weight and became depressed, and our sex life became virtually non-existent. Then, about two years ago, I started losing weight and began to feel better about myself. Our relationship improved greatly and I started realizing that I didn't need a wedding ring to prove that he loved me. I started to feel like I was falling in love with him again and we felt much closer. Our sex life started to come back slowly.
Fast forward to last summer. My boyfriend confessed that he had had an affair with a co-worker during the whole previous year. He claimed that it was purely sexual and he never had any feelings for her, and that the reason for his confession was that he was ready to get married to me and did not want to have any secrets from me. Needless to say, I was completely devastated. I had had no idea that anything was going on. I told him I couldn't be with him as boyfriend/girlfriend at the moment, and that if we were ever going to reconcile we would have to do couples counseling, which he agreed to, and we started doing and continue doing. We also kept living together in the same apartment, as our lease does not end until later this year. We do not sleep together.
Shortly after my boyfriend's confession, out of anger and hurt and wanting revenge, I contacted a guy with whom I have had chemistry for years and almost hooked up with when I was younger. We agreed that our relationship would be just sexual or friends with benefits while I figured out what do to with my boyfriend and since he was not looking for anything serious. This guy and I are the same age, and he's had several bad relationships that have made him very guarded and cynical. At first I would see him a few times a week, just for sex, but over time (it's now been almost 9 months), our relationship deepened to where I see him five or six days out of the week. We go out to dinner, hang out, talk on the phone, etc. He goes on dates with other women but none have progressed to anything serious, mainly because he continues to maintain that he doesn't want to be in a relationship with anyone. He's said to me recently that he isn't interested in dating anyone, including me, because he is afraid of getting involved with someone and getting hurt. Yet all his actions indicate to me that he likes me and at this point. I feel like we are basically dating without making it official.
I decided to move out of my apartment with my boyfriend for a month to try to get some space to figure out my next move, and I've sublet an apartment and been there for a few weeks now. However, I feel no closer to making a decision than I did before I moved in.
On one hand, I could go back to my boyfriend, who loves me and is ready to get married now. I do love him and the couples counseling has really helped us with a lot of issues that we had. But I don't know if I will ever trust him again, and I'm still so hurt and angry.
On the other hand, I could end things with my boyfriend and see where things go with the other guy. But while it's clear that this guy likes me and has feelings for me, he continues to say that he doesn't want anything serious with anybody. I do think that part of that, at least in regards to me, is that he believes that I will get back together with my boyfriend and therefore he doesn't want to risk exposing his feelings to me only to lose me.
I feel that if I were 25 years old, this would be an easier decision. I would probably end things with my boyfriend and move out, and see what happens with the other guy, with the possibility of getting back with my boyfriend if it was meant to be or just being single and finding someone new. But I'm going to be in my late 30s, and if I ever want to have kids, that window is quickly closing. I feel like I'm on the edge of a cliff with my whole future in the balance -- on one side marriage and kids and hopefully happily ever after, on the other uncertainty and anxiety with the possibility of never having kids. I am completely frozen by indecision and fear and have no idea what to do next.
– Utterly Confused, Worcester
A: It's over with the boyfriend, UC. You don't want him. If you did, this would be a no-brainer. You fell out of love with him after many long and turbulent years. You moved out. The end.
As for the new guy, he's your age (almost in his late 30s), and he's telling you that he doesn't want to be in a relationship. Please listen. Sure, he's actions might imply that he wants more, but I'm not convinced.
My advice is to free your ex and then tell this new-ish guy that you can't be in a casual relationship that takes up all of your time. Admit that you're dropping your boyfriend because you want to be able to pursue someone else. My guess is that the new guy will remain negative and noncommittal, in which case it'll time to do what you'd do at 25 -- start over.
If I thought that happily ever after was an option with the ex, I'd advise you to stay with him -- but I don't. Despite all that great, effective couples therapy, you're still considering other options.
And If I thought that the new guy would eventually give in to happily ever after, I'd tell you to hang on no matter what. But I don't trust him.
Happily ever after seems out of your reach, or at the very least, outside of your sublet. Start by being honest with everyone about what you really want, and then accept what you've already chosen to become -- a single person starting over.
Readers? Is the ex still an option? Is the new guy just protecting himself because of her history with the ex? Does she have to be single right now? Should she be factoring kids and marriage into her decision about who to keep around? Constructive advice please.
– Meredith
He lied about having a girlfriend
Q: Back in January I met someone who I thought was a pretty stand-up guy. I was showing a friend a notorious, open-after-2 a.m. bar for a drink and cliché Irish Boston scenery. After one drink and about 30 minutes of my toes getting stepped on, I somehow struck up a conversation with this stand-up guy. I proceeded to break the cardinal preliminary-talking-points rule by nervously chatting about my ex cheating on me (due to the fact that my ex's best friend was randomly there and interrupted our conversation to introduce himself). This guy didn't seem fazed by the awkwardness of the situation and actually asked for my number.
We texted daily and went out on a first date that I thought was pretty fantastic. Stand-up guy put my coat on for me and paid the tab. We had solid conversation and a quick kiss before I got into the cab. Classic first date material. Although I was excited about meeting someone new and interesting, I was a bit apprehensive because I had to begin studying for the bar exam. Studying for 10+ hours a day is not an opportune time to try and get to know someone. But stand-up guy proved once again that he was pretty stand-up. He visited me for a coffee study break almost every day for the entire time I studied. He didn't even drink coffee. At this point, he was almost too good to be true.
After the bar exam he became harder and harder to make plans with. I knew something wasn't right -- super big red flag -- but I couldn't help thinking back to how great he had been, how his actions were matching his words and all of that other great stuff. I also didn't want my past relationship trust issues to carry over.
Fast forward to last week. I finally had some time to do normal things again so I asked stand-up guy to come over for dinner. He graciously accepted, asked what was on the menu, and then ended up texting me the day of with a family related excuse. I felt terrible for even beginning to think he would use a family excuse to blow me off and sent back a "Family first. Hope everything is OK" sort of text. No response. After about five days of zero communication and girlish over-analysis, I pieced some things together using my laptop and intuition (which I had regrettably been tuning out). I told stand-up guy that I thought he had a girlfriend and that it was an unfortunate situation and thanked him for everything during the bar exam. We finally spoke about it and he neither admitted nor denied the girlfriend part. We both know that if he didn't have one the entire time he would say so.
I feel awful for his girlfriend, I've been there, but I'm not in the business of ruining already-ruined relationships. I know I'm not a victim in all of this -- I consciously and/or subconsciously missed red flags along the way. It all just seemed too improbable to be true and I was afraid to let my past experiences cloud my judgment about someone new.
So I guess I have a few questions: What was the end game here? Do people really just cheat for the sake of cheating? Do you have to ask every new person you meet if they have a significant other? Can you no longer assume people are single if they act very, very single?
– Hi, my name is do you have a girlfriend, Boston
A: You're allowed to feel like the victim here, HMNIDYHAG. You were duped and it wasn't your fault. You didn't know that this "stand-up guy" had a girlfriend until you did some serious online sleuthing. You have every right to be angry and disappointed that it didn't work out.
As for why people lie about significant others, well, it's complicated. In some cases, the cheaters are liner-uppers. They've already moved on from their current relationships (despite the fact that they're still in them), so they don't even see the overlap as cheating. In other cases, the cheaters are just bad people who tell horrible lies so that they can get attention from someone new. In your case, who knows? Maybe your guy was single when he met you but got back together with someone while you were studying. Maybe they were on a break -- until they weren't.
But here's the thing: Most people don't have the time and energy to juggle big lies. And had you not been studying for a massive, life-changing exam, you would have wanted to see this guy more often and his issues would have come out that much earlier. You would have wanted to meet his friends. You would have asked to see his apartment and the red flags would have smacked you in the face. You would have asked him personal questions that he wouldn't have been able to answer.
You are an open, thoughtful, and studious person who's looking for genuine emotional intimacy. You're probably destined to have some failed romances (because we all are), but in the end, you'll get to the bottom of every case -- law-school style -- until you find someone who makes you feel safe.
And for the record, this is why it's great to date friends of friends of friends. Make sure that the people in your circle know that you're looking for a nice guy (who's single). Let your friends know that the exam is over and that your priorities have changed.
Readers? Is she allowed to feel like the victim? Does this happen often? How can you be sure that you're on a date with a single person? What happened here? Help.
– Meredith
Are we still getting married?
We chat at 1.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I am in a world of confusion and not quite sure where to go from here. My girlfriend and I met in college. We hit it off immediately and had a great, loving, and passionate relationship. She is from another state and I'm from Massachusetts. At the time of graduation, I offered to look for jobs in her home state so that she could return to her family's farm. It was my No. 1 priority to stay with the woman I love. She expressed no interest in returning down there, saying that she wanted to stay in Massachusetts. All of her friends were here and staying together was important to us. She also said that she wanted to get married. I agreed; we loved each other so much it was the best plan for us. I was thrilled and was lucky enough to find a great job in Boston. I bought us a house and eventually proposed to her about a year after graduation. This is when the problems started.
After the initial excitement of getting engaged and we started to settle down and make wedding plans, I noticed some problems. She was burning through jobs. It ended up being nearly 4 in a 5 month stretch. She's also become very paranoid. I constantly find her going through my phone, email, and bills. When I catch her, she usually makes a joke. She stopped making wedding plans and her attitude changed to "we will figure it out as we go."
Then things came to a head. Two days after she asked a family member of mine to be a bridesmaid, she said she was leaving and moving home for a while to help with the farm. After being gone for six years, I was a little taken aback but I understood and I ended up visiting her just about every weekend. She promised that she would eventually come home but didn't. My visits started to turn worse, she began to ignore me and make plans with other people. After a recent visit, I got a text message saying we should postpone the wedding. I was devastated and horribly confused.
I have tried talking with her, her response is usually, "I don't want to talk about this," then she either hangs up or changes the subject. I've been advised by some not to force discussion. I really don't know where to go from here. I love this woman, but I am very hurt. I planned my life around her and she just turns on me in such a short time. All of my friends and family said that she was constantly discussing wedding plans with them. Where did this come from? Is this worth fighting for or should I accept this is the end of the road and cut ties? I am really hoping for some advice on this!
– Where to go, Brookline
A: Sometimes relationships that work in college just don't seem as rosy a year or two after graduation, WTG. Your girlfriend/fiancee obviously didn't know what kind of life she wanted when she signed up for this big commitment. And as we all know, planning a wedding isn't the same thing as planning a marriage. She's been capable of choosing bridesmaids because that's part of the fun, but has she been capable of discussing what she'll want from your relationship in five years?
I understand that you've been advised not to nag her about all of this, but how can you not?
My advice is to tell her how you perceive the situation and what you need right now to keep yourself sane. You can say, "Based on what's happening in our lives, I assume that this wedding is off and that we're both taking some time to reevaluate what we want. I'd like to stop talking about the wedding and start thinking about whether we should stay together at all, and if so, how we should proceed.”
She's given you time for yourself so use it, please. Consider what you want from her. She was one thing in college but has become something else. Do you want to be with her now? Should you be pushing her to return?
Her move home is a gift. You were already having doubts. Right now, the idea of a party is distracting everyone. You need to focus on the basics. Take the wedding off the table and see how everybody feels.
Readers? Should he just cut ties now abruptly, or should he follow my advice by calling off the wedding and then reevaluating the relationship? What happened here? Discuss.
– Meredith
She wants commitment from overseas
Q: Dear Meredith,
Three years ago I met a wonderful man (let's call him James) online who lives in London. It quickly became apparent that we had an amazing connection. We've visited each other many times since then, met each other's friends and family, and he even stayed with me here in the US last summer. We always have a fabulous time together. I'm crazy about him and he has become a very important person in my life!
The problem is, I'm not sure that he's crazy about me. I get very mixed messages. Although he writes every day, says that he loves and adores me, and we talk often, he still refuses to call me his girlfriend. He says that he would ask me to be his girlfriend if we lived in the same country. He was burned by an American girl some years ago after having gone through the visa process and says that he's terrified to go through that again. He has taken contracting work with a company based in Boston (yay!) but as of now there are no plans to bring him here as a regular employee although this could change in the future. He is unable to visit the US for the next 2 years due to some complex visa issues, so the only way that I will see him is if I am the one to make the trip or if he gets special permission for a business trip.
I am tired of being in this quasi-relationship; I want more. I am so confused as he says that he loves and misses me, but then acts very distant and aloof at times. I know that he has suffered from anxiety and depression in the past and this is still an issue for him and he is not receiving help. James often states that things never work out for him no matter how hard he tries. As of now it seems like the only way to be together would be to fill out fiance visas or for one of us to get a job in the other's country. He's obviously not ready to fill out visa forms if he chokes on the word "girlfriend" and it is very competitive to get a job in London in my field (although I have sent out applications and am trying!). He says that he wishes that our relationship could just unfold naturally. I have told him how I feel and he has said that he thinks that everything will be OK but offers no concrete plans as to how that will happen.
How do you know when to throw in the towel? I almost feel as if I'm gambling... if I put one more quarter in the machine/wait a few more months maybe something will happen to bring us together, which has worked before. I know that being in this quasi-relationship is keeping me from pursuing other options, and while I have great friends and family I often feel lonely. When I was in London in January I gave him a ring and asked him to be my boyfriend. He said that he loves me but can't make that commitment, yet wears the ring every day and raves about how much he loves it, how special it makes him feel, and that he wishes he had money to buy me one too. While I know he cares for me, I am starting to feel that he's stringing me along and likes knowing that someone loves him.
When I was in London last November visiting James I met another guy, we can call him Gavin, at a party. We instantly hit it off. As I was at the party with James, I was doing my best not to flirt, but boy was there a spark with Gavin! He found me on Facebook the next day and sent me a very sweet note. I friended him to make it known to James so that I wouldn't feel that I was being sneaky. A few months ago, I got a note from Gavin that he was taking a break from Facebook, and that started a series of emails back and forth; it started to get a little intense and I felt guilty so I stopped writing back but I thought about him a lot. Last month I got another email from him that has started the email exchange again. He is planning on visiting the US for a week in April and spending a few of those days with me in Boston (I offered to show him around). While Gavin seems interested, I don't know what his intentions are. It could be a steamy visit or it could just be a few friends hanging out! Maybe he just wants a tour guide?! In the last year he ended a very long relationship, so he might not be looking to get into another one any time soon.
So, I've got a lot of questions! Is it time to set James free if he's not willing to make solid future plans or do I keep hanging on, and if so on what conditions? Do I need to tell James about Gavin? At this point I don't even know what to say as Gavin's intentions aren't clear and neither are mine. I don't want to be sneaky, and I really do want to be with James, but I am tired of his mixed messages and have to admit that I am enjoying this attention from Gavin. James and I have no clear rules about our relationship, yet why do I feel like I'm breaking them with Gavin?
Thank you for reading my letter. I'm looking forward to some much needed advice!
– Languishing in Long-Distance Love Near Boston
A: I empathize with James. It seems silly for him to call you his girlfriend when he'll probably only see you a handful of times over the next two years. He's said that he'd commit if you lived nearby, and that's the best he can do. It's horribly frustrating, but why should he make big romantic promises that he just can't keep? All he can say is: "I hope this works out."
My advice is to take another trip over there and meet with some potential employers. If you're serious about making this move, you have to see these people in person and start working the employment opportunities from every angle. Set up meetings. Ask James to ask his friends for help with the job search. Find out whether he can be enthusiastic about helping you become a local. His reaction will be telling. Understand that until you're down the street from him, you just don't know what that ring represents. Push and push to make this happen.
As for Gavin, you're allowed to see him. And you should absolutely tell James that you're playing tour guide. He already knows that you're friends with Gavin, so it shouldn't be a shock. I don't think that Gavin is a real romantic option, but if you find yourself smitten with him, you need to consider that James isn't the only one out there and that maybe you're not ready to take the next big step either. Honestly, your need to commit is more about loneliness than about James. Yes, you love him, but there are so many unknowns. That ring is about hope. That's all you have right now, which is OK.
No matter how it goes with Gavin, push this move forward because you obviously have a thing for London and want answers. Use all of your nervous, frustrated energy to get where you need to be because you won't find any answers as long as you're on this side of the pond.
Readers? Should she be moving for James? Is this about James or about her? Can we talk about Gavin? Should I be advising her to stay here and find a local boyfriend? Should she see Gavin while he's here? And is James doing the right thing by not committing? Is this about his depression? Discuss.
– Meredith
The return of the one that got away
Q: Hi Meredith,
Tim and I dated for a year in college (6 years ago), half of which was long-distance. He was, and is, an amazing person. Smart, funny, caring, and carries some kind of karmic energy that just seems to click with me. The distance part worked fine for a while, but once he graduated and got a job and I was still in college, it was difficult to keep the relationship intact. He ended it, I didn't beg, but made my opinion clear that I wanted to try to make it work. It was the worst heartbreak I've ever had (I was only 20!) I've dated several people over the years, but no one that comes close to how I felt (and still feel) about Tim.
Last week, he texted me to say he was in Boston (he lives out of state) and asked if I'd like to meet up. I haven't seen him in 5 years, and have only been in sporadic contact via email and texts a few times over the years, so this invitation came as a surprise, but I was excited to hear from him. We sat in a Starbucks for 2.5 hours talking until I realized I would be late for work and had to leave. I would have stayed all night! He told me he had gone through a rough time about a year ago, including receiving a diagnosis of depression, for which he is now receiving treatment. He said that he really wants to keep in touch and made it a point to say that he will call. He asked about my love life and I was honest, but didn't ask about his. The time with him was amazing and fun...and it's been distracting me ever since.
I know a part of me will always be in love with him, but now that I've seen him, I'm curious if things could work between us. Distance is still an issue, although I am not against moving. My friends know he was the one that got away and are saying things like "you never know" and encouraging me to act on my feelings. He seemed happy, but depression can be delicate and I don't want to throw any wrenches his way if he's still trying to stabilize. I don't want to chase and I'm afraid of being rejected again, and risk losing him. I think I would much rather have him as a friend than nothing at all, but is that possible with feelings like this? Is it silly for me to be thinking this way after one meeting? Do I tell him how I feel? If so, how soon? If not, what do I do about the friendship part?
Any words of comfort?
– Nostalgia or true love?, Boston
A: It's not silly to feel this way after one meeting. You loved Tim. You've been thinking about him for years. And then, like magic, he's sitting across from you at your local Starbucks, behaving like a self-aware grownup who's interested in your life.
My advice is to contact him (not a text; email or phone is fine) and tell him that it was great to see him but that it was also rather confusing. Admit that you felt some sparks. Ask him if he felt the same way. Honestly, it's a low-pressure question. You're just asking if the meetup gave him a few butterflies. If he says that it did, you can ask more questions. If he says he was butterfly-free, you'll be able to make some informed choices about how to reciprocate contact with him in the future.
Just don't feel silly or stupid. If my one that got away showed up and took me out for coffee and looked interested in me for 2.5 hours, I'd probably go home and daydream for 2.5 hours about our next first kiss. Your reaction is understandable.
It might be nostalgia, but that doesn't mean it can't become something real. Just find out sooner than later so that you don't stew too much about the what-ifs.
Readers? Is this all in her head or is this a real possibility? Is the depression relevant? Should it stop her from contacting him about a romantic relationship? Is this nostalgia? Thoughts on Tim's motivation for getting together? Help.
– Meredith
She never contributes
Q: Hi Meredith,
I need some advice that I am sure many other male readers could benefit from. I've been dating a great girl for over two months but I need some help in the "money & dating" department. My problem is that every time we go out I pick up the check and don't even get a "thank you" in return. So my issue is twofold. One is the lack of the words "thank you," and the other is -- how long is it appropriate for the guy to always pick-up the tab? I am 30 years old and probably make two or three times as much as she does. She is 26 years old and has a good job but doesn't make much money. On average we see each other 3 or 4 times a week.
Admittedly, I enjoy going to the nicer places in Boston so each date runs around $150-$250 with drinks, cabs, etc. Multiply that by 3 or 4 and you get the weekly expenditures. I've dated a lot, the training wheels were off quite a while ago, but I've never really experienced this issue. First 8 to 10 dates is totally understandable, of course the guy pays. My thought has always been that after that period things don't need to even out but once in a blue moon it really would be appropriate for the girl to at least pay for a round of drinks, maybe a cab ride, maybe for lunch. I've got no issues paying for dinner all the time if I saw at least some minimal hint of reciprocity. Do you think I am being unreasonable here? I'm not asking to split the tab every time ... a simple "thank you" and "let me get this round" would be enough.
This issue is really starting to be on my mind a lot when I am with her. Is this an appropriate subject to bring up with her? What do you think is the right way to approach it? Maybe my time frame is off and it's really the first few months of dating that the guy needs to bankroll? Again, I've been around and never had this issue. Every other girl I've dated said "thank you" and at least covered a lunch tab after some time.
Thanks Meredith!
– Tired of Paying All The Time, Boston
A: I wish you had told us more about why she's so great, TOPATT. Because without having that information, my gut tells me that you have to let her go. The "thank you" thing really bugs me. And while I absolutely empathize with her for being too overwhelmed to even speak when you drop more than $500 a week on dates, she should have said something nice by now. Like, "I want to take you to this cute coffee shop by my place. It's nothing fancy, but it's my treat."
There's something wrong here. She's either too uncomfortable around you to speak up about financial reciprocity (which is pretty much a deal-breaker), or she's the kind of person who's happy to eat $150 meals all week without ever expressing gratitude (also a
deal-breaker).
If she's really that wonderful otherwise, explain to her that you're happy to go to less expensive places so that she can feel like a financial equal in the relationship. See how she responds to that. But honestly, only pursue that conversation if her behavior at dinner seems out of character. She's a grown-up and should say "Thank you." She should also want to contribute.
There's no gender issue here, by the way. If you ask someone out because you want the pleasure of their company, you'll be expected to pay. But after a date or two, there are no rules.
Readers? Is she just in shock by his lifestyle? How should she be contributing? Are men still expected to pay for more than a few dates? Should he bring this up with her? Help.
– Meredith
Getting over a quick rejection
I forgot to tell you that I had a doctor's appointment and couldn't chat yesterday. Sorry.
Q: I am a faithful reader of your column and I hope you can steer me in the right direction.
I am in my late 40s, and I went through a divorce about two years ago. The ink was no sooner dry on the divorce agreement when I was laid off. I do my best to keep my chin up and be optimistic, but after almost two years of single fatherhood and unemployment, I have only a part time job and one date to show for it.
I recently met a woman at work. She is in the final stages of her divorce. We talked a couple of times and we connected. I asked her out for coffee and we talked more. I have enjoyed talking with her, and I have felt engaged and challenged like I have never felt before. She is not looking for a serious relationship right now, but would like to have one at some point in the future.
I asked this woman out for coffee again, and I got a note back saying that she did not feel a deeper connection. She went on to say that since we work in the same place, she did not want a relationship with me outside of work (even though because of our schedules, we have almost no interaction at work). She added that there were changes she wanted to make in herself and her life in order to find the kind of relationship she wanted.
I felt confused, disappointed, and hurt. I felt like we did connect, at least enough for me to want to see her again. I can only guess, but I think she was uncomfortable with the fact we both work in the same place. I also think she was uncomfortable with our age difference (she is about 15 years younger). Beyond that, I wonder if I did or said something wrong (like possibly mentioning my children or my ex-wife).
So I am left to wonder what I need to do in order to find someone else. I have a fear of not having someone special in my life and winding up alone. Through the whole process of my divorce and losing my full time job, I have just felt alone. I do know that people (mostly at my church) care and will listen, but I still feel alone. I guess I could use some insight and another point of view.
– Trying to Be Optimistic in Metrowest
A: There are so many reasons why this woman wasn't the woman, TTBOIM. I mean, there's the age difference, her divorce (would you have been ready to date two years ago?), the workplace stuff, and your shared insecurities about the future. As much as water seeks its own level, she's probably looking for someone who can make her feel confident about her new, independent life. You can't be that person for her right now.
You need to stop focusing so much on what you don't have and start making a list of what you want. You know you want a full-time job, so that remains a priority. As for love, what are you looking for? Do you want someone with kids? Do you want someone your age? Who do you think would make a good partner? Honestly, that's what you should be talking about with friends at church. Your friends are supposed to listen to your rants about being lonely, but you can't limit the interaction to just that. It's more productive to ask these people to help you create the life you want for yourself.
As for what you did wrong on your date, well, probably nothing. Again, there were other negative forces at work with this woman. That said, you should keep long rants about sadness and exes to a minimum when you meet someone new. And make sure that you ask a lot of questions and smile. Happiness is attractive. I know that things seem bleak right now, but they're not. You're hunting for a new and exciting job, you're single and free to meet people, and you're a self-aware man who isn't going to push the right person away. If you believe all of that, someone else will too.
Readers? Was he on the right track with this woman at work? Advice about dating while under-employed? Can you give this letter writer a boost? What's happening here? Should he be trying to date at all? Is he asking too much of two years? Help.
– Meredith
His ex is in the way
Q: I have been with this guy for over a year now but we actually have only been dating seriously for the past couple of months. When we first started hooking up, it was casual and neither of us wanted anything out of it. He had a lot of drama going on with his ex from a year ago, and I was just someone he hung out with as a good escape from it all. Over time we did get much closer, and his ex found out about me one day while snooping through his email. We were completely open about our relationship after that -- but his ex would go around saying she was depressed, would talk about what she read in our conversations pertaining to our sex life, and would tell people how he actually wanted to be with her. She completely destroyed my reputation and made me so embarrassed to show my face.
She began becoming extremely depressed, and her father was diagnosed with a bad illness toward the end of the year. She would put really heavy things on my guy by constantly crying and saying her happiness depended on him. She had a new boyfriend, but would continuously text him telling him how she loved him. Finally he told her we were getting more serious and she needed to stop, but she still continued to do the same things over and over. I also tried talking to her to get her to stop, but nothing seemed to work. In the midst of all of this, I heard that they had hooked up during the earlier parts of us talking. He did at first lie about it, but I told him I didn't believe him and he eventually admitted to it.
Now that her father is ill, he feels responsible for the way she is behaving and for her depression. He feels as though he should talk to her about how she feels, but I don't know what to take of it. I hate this girl for what she did to me and put me through when I didn't even know her, and I hate her for what she did to him (she cheated during their relationship). I feel absolutely crazy telling him not to be there for her, but it makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable. All of her friends have stopped talking to her as a result of her actions toward this situation, so he feels as though she has no one.
This isn't a trust issue for me; it's more that I just don't feel entitled to my boyfriend since she knows he will always be there when she needs it. I feel like she takes advantage of that and he allows her to do that. I really don't know what the sane way to feel about this is, and I hope you could give me some guidance.
– Can't Handle the Ex, Boston
A: I understand that there's history here and that her father is ill and that she's friendless, but this can't be your boyfriend's responsibility. Because when will it stop? And how does this woman's new boyfriend feel about all of this? This can't be working for anyone.
I don't expect that your boyfriend will leave this woman depressed and alone, but I hope that he's capable of setting boundaries and explaining to her that he can't be her first phone call. I want your boyfriend to talk to her (again) about what works for him, and to give her some tools to find help on her own. You're allowed to ask him to minimize contact. You're allowed to help him figure out what to say. You're allowed to tell him all about your boundaries and what you can live with as he deals with someone who used to be the most important person in his life.
Realistically, your best-case scenario is that your boyfriend sets boundaries so that his ex-girlfriend fades away. I don't see it getting better than that. He's not going to cut her off right now, certainly not out of the blue.
And that's why you need to be honest with yourself about what you'll put up with. This woman has been a problem since you started this relationship, and you've only been serious for a few months. Meanwhile, you didn't tell us much about the good stuff. Is there enough positive to counter the negative? Can you be happy with your probable best-case scenario? If not, you know what you have to do. Is this worth the hassle?
Readers? Can the letter writer ask the boyfriend to stop talking to the ex? Does it matter that the ex is going through a family crisis? Will the boyfriend ever minimize the ex? What should the letter writer do? Help.
– Meredith
We have trouble sleeping together
Q: Dear Meredith,
I need advice with an issue that may seem small in new relationships but I can see it becoming a big deal for long-term relationships and marriages.
I've been with my boyfriend for 2 years in a long-distance relationship. We spend a weekend together once a month and take a week-long vacation once a year. He is a caring, thoughtful, and smart man. We have a great relationship and plenty of laughs together. We really complement each other well ... except for our sleeping pattern. He's an early-to-bed, early-to-rise person. He usually goes to sleep around 10 p.m. and wakes up around 5 a.m. His work schedule fluctuates between the first and second shift, but he seldom goes to sleep later than midnight and almost never wakes up after 7 a.m., even on weekends and during vacations. He also feels sleepy around midday and takes afternoon naps whenever he's not working and especially during vacations. I'm more of a night owl. I usually go to sleep after midnight and wake up around 8 or 9 a.m. My work schedule allows me to do so. I don't like to take naps because I feel like it takes away time that I could be doing something else.
Our sleeping pattern might seem to be a trivial matter. But I wake up whenever he wakes up, and it leaves me feeling really tired. I try to sleep early with him, but find myself just lying there feeling like I could be doing something more productive. We've talked about how our sleeping pattern doesn't mesh too well, and agreed that there must be some compromises when we do live together. Maybe we'll stay out later and sleep in during the weekends. But I'm not sure if this will work for long. It's so ingrained in him to wake up early, and in me to sleep late. So my questions to you and your readers who are in long-term committed relationships with a live-in partner are: How can our sleeping habits mesh more seamlessly? Can it even be seamless? I don't think we should break-up because of this issue, but I do wonder how much it will affect our marriage when we do get married. Any advice and suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
– Need Precious ZZZs, New York
A: This issue is made worse by the distance, NPZZZ. If you can get yourselves to the same place, you'll be able to adjust to a new routine instead of getting shocked once a month.
My big piece of advice is to invest in a king-size bed. I truly believe that all couples who were singles in queen beds should bump themselves up to king when they start sharing with a partner. It's easier to get out of a king bed without waking someone up. It's easier to drool and snore in a king bed without somebody else noticing. It's expensive and consumes a lot of space, but sleep is important. If the bed saves you from bickering and getting sick from lack of rest, it's worth it. If one of you can pull off having a king-size bed now, even before you move to the same place, please go for it. Split the cost.
Also, try to make your current situation as romantic as possible. Put him to bed. Ask him to wake you up with breakfast. See if you can make some of his naps more ... productive.
Readers? Thoughts on my king-size bed idea? Is this a distance thing? Will they find a routine when they live in the same place? Can you tell this letter writer how you deal with sleep? Be helpful.
– Meredith
Meeting men in a new place
Q: Hi Meredith and company!
I will start off by noting that I am a native of New England who relocated to the Deep South as part of a strategic career move. I continue to read Boston.com as a way of maintaining my connections to the area and have recently found myself drawn to Love Letters. In light of recent events, I decided to step up to the plate and seek your advice.
Here's a little information about me: I am a single guy in my mid-twenties, educated, with a steady job that I enjoy, an active social life, and a great group of friends. I consider myself to be attractive, easy going, fun to be around, and a genuinely nice person. The least exciting thing about me is that I am gay. My longest, and only, relationship lasted a whopping 4 months when I was in college. After that experience, I took a 6-year hiatus from dating to finish my degree and build a career. This was absolutely the best decision for me and I do not regret it in any way. I am very independent and have never felt that something was missing in my life simply because I wasn't in a relationship. However, now that I am older I realize that it would be nice to spend time with someone I care about.
After 6 years of absolutely no dates, I am having a really hard time meeting guys. I do not know where to begin or how to even put myself out there. Gay bars just aren't my cup of tea and I don't know of any respectable dating websites. The few guys I have interacted with just seem to be looking for a one night stand and not an actual relationship. Can you help me out and get me pointed in the right direction?
– Missteps in the South
A: I can't tell you exactly where to go, MITS, but I can tell you that it's always nice to meet friends of friends of friends. Can you tell some of your new friends -- even if they're at work -- that you're looking for a nice boyfriend? Can you ask neighbors and pals who they know?
I'd also recommend looking up every organization in town to see whether they have any nice clubs and activities. I'm thinking of the Huntington Theatre's "Out and About" program in Boston. There have to be some equivalent groups down where you are.
I have to admit that after reading this letter, I want to give you a talking to about your proclivity to compartmentalize. I understand that you've needed to focus on work, but you can no longer afford to ignore one part of your life while you prioritize another. It's too much pressure. It's why you feel that after a six-year hiatus from the dating world, you suddenly have to dive in deep and focus on finding a boyfriend like it's your new job.
I'm guilty of this kind of compartmentalizing, too. It's easy to say, "I'm going to put 100 percent of my effort into priority 'A,' and ignore priority 'B.'" Truth is, it's better to do A and B at the same time. So try not to put too much pressure on yourself. You're working on your job, building a life, and meeting new people at the same time. It's OK if you only take small steps while you multitask. That's how it works.
Readers? What should he do? And am I right about the compartmentalizing? Anybody else focus on one part of their lives while ignoring the other? Can you give him words of wisdom? Help.
– Meredith
His new girlfriend wants me gone
Q: My boyfriend of five years and I broke up about a year and a half ago. We have both since moved on and are in serious relationships with new people. I miss my ex very much as we lived together for many years and were not just boyfriend and girlfriend, but also just really great friends. We shared so much together and even though we ended up splitting up (he ended it because of commitment issues), I wish to maintain some sort of friendship with him.
The problem is, he is dating a girl who is many, many years younger than he is, and who has serious jealousy and insecurity issues. According to my ex, she has forbidden him to see me, even in social situations where many of our mutual friends are around, and even with our new partners. He emails and texts me occasionally about non-important things, my guess is just to maintain some sort of contact with me and because his new girlfriend won't know about this kind of communication. I've stopped writing back because I've really lost respect for him. My question is, is it worth trying to maintain a friendship with an ex who lets his new partner's insecurities interfere with his life -- or do I confront him and tell him I'm not interested in a friendship unless it's a real one?
– Cut Off, Boston
A: I'd tell him that you're just not comfortable being part of a lie.
I mean, what if his new girlfriend found these innocent texts? Would she feel betrayed? Would she tell your ex that he's been cheating? Your ex should understand that you can't contribute to that kind of dishonesty.
Before you lose all respect for him, know that friendships with exes are often this tricky. Even if they start out great, they don't always last. My guess is that this young woman is freaking out about you because she sees the writing on the wall -- writing that tells her that she's going to be his next ex-girlfriend. Maybe he mutters your name in his sleep. Who knows?
You can't tell him what's best for him or what he should do in this new relationship. All you can tell him is that you can't be part of a lie, which is why you're not writing back to these texts. Let him work out the rest of it on his own. Give him space to figure out whether he wants to be with someone whose rules force him to be dishonest.
Readers? Is this new girlfriend in the wrong for not wanting a serious ex around? Is the boyfriend in the wrong for accepting the rules? Am I right to say that the texts are a problem because he's probably lying about them to his new girlfriend? Should the letter writer demand a "real" friendship? Can we stay friends with exes like this? Discuss.
– Meredith
Has the spark returned?
Q: Hi Meredith,
I am a single woman in my early 30s and am involved in a "friends with benefits" situation. The gentleman is an ex-boyfriend from about a decade ago. We dated on and off for over 3 years but have stayed very close since we decided to finally call it quits. The break up was mutual.
We have supported each other through good times and bad over the years. We've been through deaths, other relationships, breakups, new jobs, and new apartments. We have a great connection that I never want to give up. We think alike and have the same dry wit. There is only one other person who can make me belly laugh like he does and that is my best friend from elementary school. We truly enjoy each other's company (in and outside the bedroom).
There are multiple reasons why we finally ended it but I will touch on just a few. We were young when we started dating, and we were both (admittedly) having a hard time committing and picturing ever settling down. He had a hard time believing that I didn't want to get married and have kids anytime soon. At one point he and his roommate started hanging out with a new group of friends, most of whom were women. Knowing he did not have many friends I encouraged it at first. Long story short, I started to get jealous. I have never been jealous in any other relationship prior or since and I hated how it made me feel. He started treating me differently and the spark was no longer there. I had to call it quits.
Over the years we have dated other people and keep a respectable distance during those times but always stayed in contact. The minute we are single, the "friends with benefits" arrangement kicks in. Over the past year we have really enjoyed each other, but there was no spark -- until the other night. It totally caught me (and I think him) off guard. We have kissed many times over the years since we separated but the kiss the other night sent shivers through my body and tears to my eyes. It was that spark that we had been missing. Not saying a word or knowing what to do, he snuggled in close to me and we just fell asleep. We've talked since then but "it" has not been discussed since. So here is my question: Do I bring it up? Do I leave it alone so not to rock the boat? I think I would be open to dating again but I am nervous of the rejection. I cannot stop thinking about it.
Thanks for reading!
– Unexpected Feelings, Boston
A: You must bring it up, UF. Even without that magic kiss, it'd be time for a discussion. You guys have been half committed to each other for years, which means that you've only been half committed to finding a real partner. The spark is obviously there. You just need to decide what to do about it.
Bring it up. Tell him that you want to try dating him again, because you do. If he doesn't, it's time to rock the boat so hard that he falls out of it.
And please know this: The spark never left. Sure, you didn't feel it until that kiss the other night, but it takes some spark to fuel a friends-with-benefits situation. The spark was moving things along, making you want to run into each other's arms every time you could. Your guy either wants to pursue that spark or he doesn't. And if he doesn't, you need some time and space to accept your reality.
Have the talk before you spend years feeling hopeful and confused for no good reason. Explain to him that all you want to do right now is try.
Readers? Was the spark ever gone? What's happening here? What should she tell him? What happened with the kiss? Will he want this? Does she have to rock the boat?
– Meredith
It just isn't there for her
A Friday treat: Some advice from young people in Boston.
Q: I have been off and on dating a girl for the past year and a half. We are basically best friends and have amazing communication. We have talked hypothetically about being more serious, and even marriage. She has admitted to me that I am the first guy she has pictured marrying and being a father to her 3-year-old child. I am everything right to her.
However, as I said, we have been off and on for the past year and a half. She breaks things off and comes back to me. Most recently, when we officially tried being together, it lasted about 3 weeks. She admitted to me that it just isn't there for her. She still wants to be friends and still admits I am everything right, however it's just not there even though she really wants it to be.
My question is, do I still be a friend to her? Or do I need to move past her and let her completely go? I still have a lot of feelings for her, and I'm still very attracted to her. Why do I still hold on to her when I have so many other options with other girls?
– Hopelessly Holding On, Salt Lake City
A: You can't be her friend right now, HHO. As soon as she said that "it just wasn't there for her," it was over. She tried being with you many times and managed to walk away from all of your qualities. You need to cut her off so that you can accept your reality. Consider this a real breakup. Treat it like one.
As for why you want her so much when you have so many other options ... well, you fell in love with her. It's just that simple. It's also possible that you became a bit obsessed with winning her affection. The courting process can be very, very addictive. After a few false starts, this was about getting it right as much as it was about love.
Cut her off. Get some clarity. Explain to her that you need space to figure this out. Crawl under the covers and be sad about this. You need to mourn so that you can start getting excited about your other options.
Readers? Can you help him start the process? Should he continue to be her friend? Does motherhood play a role in her decision? What happened here? Untangle this for him.
– Meredith
Should we get engaged before moving in?
Q: Dear Meredith,
(I am writing this letter on behalf of myself and my boyfriend.)
I have been dating this wonderful guy, "Justin," for almost a year and a half. He is an amazing person and I cannot wait to spend the rest of my life with him. We have purchased a few books along the lines of "1,001 questions to ask before getting married," and have had many of those deep discussions. Though we don't see eye-to-eye on every last thing, we have not found any deal breakers. We appear to agree on the topics that are important to both of us. We would like to get married in the summer of 2013. The problem? We disagree on some of the minor details of how to go from being dating to engaged to married.
Justin would like to live together before we get engaged. On the other hand I am not willing to live together without an engagement and a wedding date set. Some background on both of us. Justin was once engaged, but it did not work out. They did not live together at any point, but Justin believes if they had lived together before becoming engaged the relationship would have ended before a ring appeared. I on the other hand did live with an ex without being engaged. Needless to say it didn't work out and since my ex owned the house, I was the one who needed to move out. Along with moving out of the house I was also out several thousand dollars, which has taken me four years to recoup.
I need to make a choice about renewing the lease on my apartment by the first week of May. I have told Justin if I have a ring by then I am willing to renew my lease for 6 months, which will give us time to pick a venue, date, and allow me to move into the house he owns slowly. If I don't have a ring I am going to renew for a full year. (I have talked to my landlord and they are willing to give me a 6 month lease for about $150 more a month). I am willing to pay that extra money a month for a short term lease for a little while. Justin believes he won't be prepared to propose until late this summer/early fall. He is also upset that I won't trust him enough to follow through on the proposing to sign the shorter term lease without a ring.
We both are a little scared, though we both want the same end result. We want to respect each other’s beliefs and want to spend our lives together. Can you give us any advice on how to get from where we are now to where we want to be without hurting each other? We are turning to you instead of our family and friends since we would like to seek advice from someone neutral.
– Catch 22, Worcester
A: You're not going to like this (well, one of you won't), but I side with Justin. You want him to promise you that he'll definitely want to marry you no matter what, but that promise would be a lie. Yes, the ring would be a real symbol of commitment, but Justin has already told you that he wants to propose by the fall and get married next summer. He doesn't sound like a guy who's looking for reasons to end this.
Some people believe that they have to get married before they live with a partner. For those people, the choice is usually about family, religion, and tradition. But for you it's simply about wanting a promise. That's understandable, but I'm here to tell you that you already have a promise from Justin. He wants this. He just doesn't want to give you the matching accessory and wedding date until he's comfortable and confident. That seems fair to me. If he gave you a ring now, would it really have any meaning? The ring would only symbolize what you want. If you wait until he's ready, the proposal will be a genuine, two-sided gesture.
So yeah, I'm with Justin. I want you to move in there as soon as you can so that he can propose with fanfare in time for you to get married next summer. You both want that. Have faith.
I empathize with all of your concerns, but let's just move this along before the stress of the proposal ruins the 1,001 things that you guys get right.
Readers? Am I right or is Justin in the wrong? Both parties seem to be stressed about what happened with their exes. Should they be making comparisons? Thoughts on a compromise? Help them.
– Meredith
I miss the turbulence
Let's see if the chat software works today. We'll start at 1.
Q: Meredith,
I have loved Love Letters since 2010 when I lived in Boston and went through a really hard break up. I was with my ex, let's call him Brian, for 5 years. We were young and had the kind of love that consumes you in an unhealthy way. I was completely sucked in and obsessed. We were so passionate, loving each other one second and fighting uncontrollably the next. When we broke up I was devastated.
Soon after our break up, I met Nate, an older and more mature guy. Our relationship blossomed and we fell fast into a more mature, adult love. We live together now, moved across the country together, and 95% of the time everything is great. We drink tea, watch TV together and "make grilled cheese sandwiches" before bed. It feels very natural and grown up.
But then there is the 5% of the time where I miss the obsessed feeling, the fighting just to make up. I do not know if I am just romanticizing what Brian and I had or if I am just really missing it.
I am going back to Boston soon for a week and part of me wants to see Brian, to see if feelings come back. But is that crossing lines? Am I playing with fire? How do I ignore these feelings and appreciate what I have 100% of the time. Or is something wrong in my relationship that I feel this way?
– Will This Mess With My Head, Los Angeles
A: Brian isn't the issue here, WTMWMH. The issue is whether you want to be "grown up" and serious with Nate or whether you need more time on your own. Do you like the security of your life with this older, stable guy? Or do you need to be someone who's wandering around, looking for new loves, and experiencing the range of emotions that comes with dating?
My guess is that you're mourning the loss of your former, turbulent life because you know that you've moved on from it.
I base that opinion on your numbers. You told us that you're happy 95 percent of the time. That's like an A+, right? If your percentage was 60-40, we'd have more to talk about. If you were questioning things 40 percent of the time, I'd have to wonder whether you should be drinking tea and living across the country with some grown up.
If you're truly free from doubts about 95 percent of the time ... well, I'm just not sure it gets better than that. Three to five percent of us always wonders whether we should quit our jobs, sleep with other people, and move to a different city. You're supposed to have some what-ifs and daydreams. Pay attention to your percentage, because if it's really 95-5, you're in good shape.
And as for Boston, there's no need to see a guy who made you feel unhealthy. Instead, visit your old friends and think about how much you miss the rest of the life you left behind.
Readers? Should she see Brian for a basis of comparison? Is there a problem here? Does she want to be with Nate? Is her upcoming trip spawning these doubts? Discuss.
– Meredith
The return of the exes
Q: I'm 22 years old and I need some advice. I've been contacted by three exes in three weeks, all of whom broke up with me at one point in time. I will talk about each of them and what they said to me in the order that they've contacted me.
About three weeks ago, an ex-girlfriend who I dated for a year and a half (the longest I've ever been with anybody) contacted me and has been reaching out ever since. It began with her awkwardly saying, "Hey, what's up?" I responded nicely and asked her how she's doing. She started talking about how she hopes I find a nice girl and that she feels responsible for the fact that I haven't. That weekend she texted, "Am I gonna see you out tonight?" That was really weird to me, because we don't ever run into each other. Three weeks later, she's still reaching out for brief conversations. I don't really have any desire to get back together with this girl.
This second girl is one who I was seeing more recently. I had and still have feelings for her that I've never had for anyone. We dated last year but it ended abruptly due to different agendas. She told me she was seeing somebody else and I didn't get mad. I have always been nice to this girl. She's different than any other girl I've met. I would like to keep her around in any way I can, even if that means just as friends. It's like I care more about her well-being than my own, and I've never felt that way about anybody before. But after we ended, I was pretty hurt. I had to cut off contact with her so that I could move on. But then a couple weeks ago, she texted me asking about my weekend. We got into a little conversation, joked around a little bit, and then it ended. This has happened a couple of times. This past weekend, I wound up seeing her at a party. I admit that upon first sight of her, I froze and I couldn't bring myself to talk to her. She came over to me, hugged me, and asked how I was doing. Then we talked and joked around for a little while. The party moved over to this bar shortly after. Long story short, we talked to each other and nobody else from the time we got to the bar until the time she left. Mind you, this was a loud place where it is hard to have a conversation in the first place, but that's exactly what we did. When she left, she suggested that we hang out again soon. Now, as far as I know, she's still seeing this guy. We wound up going out with our roommates, and not even an hour later, she texts me that she'd like to do that again. She said she has a fantastic time with me whenever we hang out, and that she misses spending time with me. Then she said that she trusts me more than anybody. I don't want to read into this incorrectly, because she could just be trying to establish a friendship. But I find this very odd, and being that this could be the first girl that I've ever actually loved, I don't want to mess anything up.
Finally, this last girl is one that I was seeing a couple years ago. We ended pretty badly and eventually stopped speaking to each other. She tried to mend our relationship a few months later, but the first girl I told you about wouldn't let that happen. So we continued not talking to each other, and we both kind of held our own grudges. Today, she messages me on Facebook to ask what I've been up to and says that she wants to meet up and have a drink. I would like to do this because I feel bad for the way we stopped talking to each other. And I'm curious to see where this goes.
Now, everywhere I turn to find answers, people say that if you want a girl to miss you and to come back to you then you need to ignore her when she reaches out. They say to treat her as she treated you when it ended, but I find it hard to do that. The way I see it, what's wrong with being nice to them when they reach out to you? I'm thinking that as long as you show that you're not desperate to get them back and you're doing well without them, is that really going to hurt your chances of maybe getting back together with them one day? I guess this is my question to you. Also, what are these girls doing? Why did this all happen at once? Clearly, I'd like to have another shot with the second girl I talked about. But I'm not ruling out anything, and I'm not jumping the gun on anything. If they want something, they're going to have to ask for it. But my head is spinning, and I could use some direction.
– What do I do?, Boston
A: I don't know why these exes are reaching out. Maybe it's the weather. Or maybe it's a Rule of Threes thing.
All I know is that you shouldn't attempt to manipulate these women or play games with them. Don't ignore them because you think that your elusive behavior will make them fall back in love with you. Don't behave like a jerk because that's how they behaved at the end the relationship. Instead, be honest with them. If you're honest, they'll follow your lead. Behave like a human and they'll have no choice but to treat you like one.
You have my permission to ignore Ex No. 1. There's nothing to save there, and it doesn't sound like she's a real friend.
You can absolutely have a drink with Ex No. 3. My guess is that when you see her, you'll be reminded of negative things, but it sounds like you need to satisfy your curiosity. So go.
As for Ex No. 2, you have to be clear about your intentions. Tell her (in person or in an email – not by text) that you still get butterflies in your stomach when you're with her. Explain that you want to hang out more often, but that you can't promise that your intentions are platonic. Ask how she feels. Tell her that it's OK if she's confused -- you just need to know where you stand.
I don't mean to be corny, but I believe in the Golden Rule. If you're empathetic, confident, caring, warm, honest, and awesome, these women will want to return the favor. But please know that if Ex. No. 2 says that there's no chance of a real romantic reconciliation, you'll need to limit your contact with her again. Explain that to her. She sounds great, but you're not in it for friendship and there's still too much on the line.
Readers? How can he get Ex No. 2 back? What does Ex No. 2 want? Is she trying to get back together with him? What about Ex No. 3? What about 1? What about treating someone like they treated you at the end of your relationship? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm bad at dating
I can confirm, by the way, that updates posted on Wednesday's addict letter are legit. I think she posted them at the end of the day.
Q: Meredith,
Please help me get back in the dating game. I have little experience being single and have primarily always been in relationships. As a result, many women who may have been attracted to me had I been single have now grouped me into the "friend zone."
Fast forward to present day. I'm single (under 25), work long hours, and have little time to meet new people. When I do, I focus too much on my own flaws. I feel I have little to offer them and sometimes don't initiate anything further.
My main issue is confidence. I am told I dress well, I'm no model obviously but I'm not a bad looking guy, but I feel I can't compete with the rest of the single guys who are accustomed and know the ins and outs of the dating world. Being single and meeting new people is scary for me, and I've spent the last year feeling as if I'm never going to meet anyone. I feel as if I can't compete with Mr. X who has supremely high confidence, and more experience. Women I deem attractive intimidate me, and I often won't pursue them because I feel as if they won't give me the time of day.
As a result, I tend to settle for girls I feel are more "on my level" even when the women I really would like to get to know (see: more attractive in terms of what I seek, more accomplished career-wise) may be more along the lines of what I am looking for.
My question: How do I resolve my confidence issues (counseling, therapy, going on a few dates?) and is there a more efficient way to meet new people than online dating or the bar scene? Am I setting the bar too low?
Any help, from you, the readers, I assure you is greatly appreciated.
– Looking For Love In All The Wrong Places, Boston
A: This letter reminds me of a letter from January. It was from a guy having a meltdown about something that makes everyone feel meltdown-ish. There's really no way to be a dating pro. No one knows exactly what they're doing. We all worry about being stuffed in the friend zone. We're all equal in this.
I do want you to think about what it means to look for a partner. I receive a lot of letters about standards and "setting the bar too low." My question to you is: Why is there a bar? You shouldn't be categorizing people based on whether you think they're too good for you. You shouldn't be labeling other men as peers or possible threats. Dating isn't about finding someone who meets a set of standards. It's about finding someone you like to be around who wants to be around you too.
So that's my advice. Find a group of people, men and women, who are good company. (You can join teams, alumni groups, etc.) Then think about whether you like any of the women more than the others (enough to kiss them). Don't think about their on-paper statistics. Don't think about what you offer them. Just think about how you get along. That's what matters here.
You're welcome to go to a therapist and talk about your confidence, but your problem is really about how you perceive the dating world. It's not a competition. It's just about finding someone you like.
Readers? We do get a lot of letters about dating and standards. Is that the right way to look at the dating experience? Can you give this guy a reality check? Help.
– Meredith
Dating a recovering addict
Q: Dear Meredith,
I met my most recent boyfriend (now ex) at church. He's an alcoholic/addict. We're in our mid-20s. When I first met him, he was smoking pot (more and more as time progressed) and drinking a lot. We slept together the first time we hung out. In the beginning, we were happy and had fun, although I always noticed he seemed unable to have reciprocal conversations. About six months into our relationship, he decided to get sober again, but declined to go to AA or NA meetings. He took on more things in his life (music, school) and had less and less time and mental space for me, as well as himself. We were together for more than a year.
I recently expressed my issues with his inability to be present and engage me in conversation, as well as his lack of time to spend with me. He felt attacked, got defensive, and broke up with me a few days later. He told me that unless I could accept who he is and think of a way to move forward, he felt that we were out of options to continue our relationship.
Then last night we went for a walk. He told me that he wants to make time for me and for himself. That he realizes now that he is just dry and the things I've been wanting in him (and him for himself) occur naturally when he is in a program. He apologized for blaming everything on me and explained that he is now seeing that he was just being stubborn, and the things I wanted were not hard for him to provide. He said he wanted to cut down on his involvements so he can have a personal life again (he literally spends all of his free time doing homework and music). I told him I wasn't sure, that he broke my heart and I don't know if I should compromise on my needs from a partner.
I told him that I wasn't totally closed off to the idea of seeing how he is when he's in a program. We wound up being intimate that night and were both confused afterwards. He kept asking what it meant, and feeling scared that he had ruined his chance of being with me. I'm feeling a little foolish, unsure of where my desire to be with him is coming from. Would it be totally ridiculous to see if this could work?
– Confused in Arizona
A: It sounds like your ex has a lot of potential and that he's working hard to create a better life for himself, CIA, but I'm not so sure about what's going on in your head.
What drew you to him in the first place? What compelled you to stick around when you realized there were problems? Did you feel obligated to stay? Or was it something more?
Rather than focusing on this guy's habits, I want you to focus on you. See a (say it with me everybody) therapist and talk about what comes next in your life, with or without him. I don't know enough about your past to make guesses about why you were with someone who wasn't capable of "reciprocal conversations," but something tells me that it's been easier for you to worry about him than it's been to focus on yourself.
While you figure this out, please be honest with him. Tell him that you don't know what you're doing and that this isn't just about whether he can cut it as a boyfriend. You're not sure about your own motives and you're also in a period of self-discovery.
He's learning how to have a personal life without succumbing to temptation. You're learning about why you need a partner, how you choose one, and what fills your life. For now, I'd put this whole thing on hiatus -- not because I think he's going to relapse, but because you both need to sort out your motivation for being with each other and what you want and need as individuals. Take some space.
Readers? Am I right to say that this is just as much about her as it is about him? He's in a program now and seems quite motivated, so should she stick around to see how it goes? What's happening here? Discuss.
– Meredith
He's bad with money
Q: Dear Meredith,
I have been with my boyfriend for a little over 2.5 years. We started out very passionate and head over heels for each other. He's very kind, understanding, funny, handsome, and intelligent. My family and friends adore him. But lately, when I sit down and think about our future together, it's hard to envision.
This is due to the fact that he has very, very, very poor money management skills and is always spending too much on short term things (a new truck, bars, clothes) and never saving for a ring, a home, and the things I am looking toward now. There have been times when he leaned very heavily on me for financial support while living together to the point where I told him that once our lease was up he would have to move home.
We are currently living apart but he is over my place the majority of the time. I tried to help him manage his money, but as a 27-year-old managing her own finances that involve two school loans as well as several weddings a year, it became frustrating and hard for me to stay on top of him about these things.
This has all had an effect on my participation in the bedroom, and it's the first time I've ever experienced that. He's in the midst of a career change after recently being laid off from work. He's looking for a more secure job with good benefits. But I worry that even with a new career the problems will still persist, a life of financial insecurity. This has left me feeling angry, frustrated and asking myself if there's something I should be doing to help him. I would love to get a clear, objective answer on how to handle this situation.
– Should I Stay or Should I Go, Boston
A: I'm confused about the plan, SISOSIG. Is he supposed to move back in at some point? Does he know that you're hoping for a ring and a home? Does he know that you want those things soon?
My advice is to have a big talk with him about what's next. Ask him where he wants to be in five years. Married to you? In a house? Does he share these goals at all? My guess is that the lack of planning for a future together has tainted the whole bedroom situation.
Don't ask him these questions in an angry voice, by the way. He's unemployed right now and can't take that stress. Ask him in an excited voice. The conversation should be about dreams, not demands.
If he says that he likes things the way they are, there's your answer. If he says that he doesn't know what he wants, that's also a pretty clear answer. If he says that he wants the ring and the house, tell him that you want to go with him to a premarital financial adviser to figure out how all of this great stuff can happen. Those financial advisers exist, and they're trained to teach young couples how to live within their means and contribute to the same goals. It's so much easier to have a third party ask about spending habits and debt.
Your boyfriend might get defensive about going to a professional, especially because he's still out of work. Let him know that you're willing to wait to make an appointment until he's employed. All you need to know is that he's willing to go. After 2.5 years together, money is still a source of stress. You need to get in front of a professional to find out how to deal, and if he won't go with you, you'll be able to make an informed decision about staying or, more likely, going.
Readers? Should she just go now? Does this money stuff work itself out once you get a little older? Has anyone visited a financial adviser with a partner? Can anyone talk about how their spending habits changed from 27 to 37? What's happening here? Help.
– Meredith
We hate his ex
Q: This letter may be just as much about me as it is about my guy or his ex-girlfriend. My boyfriend, whom I met about four years ago, is loving, caring, sweet, funny, sexy and everything I have ever wanted. We dated for a few months when we met, and started dating again this past fall. Things have become very serious. We are long distance and see each other every 2/3 weeks. We've made plans for him to live up here for the summer and I am moving back down there once I am done with my graduate degree.
My major problem (with myself or my boyfriend or his ex -- I am not quite sure at this point) is that his ex -- who, incidentally, is the local girl who lured him away from me after I left years ago -- is a rotten egg. She wormed his way into his life. At the time, he was about 27, I was 24, and she was 21. Now we are four years older. Why did he pass me over for her? Well, he was living in a rural town, felt lonely, and I was 600 miles away. At the time, it was all a very logical bad decision on his part. I didn't have much choice but to pick up and concentrate on my own life. I just never expected to hear from him again. Well I did, and here we are -- happy but confused!
During those three-plus years apart, he was extremely unhappy and struggled with his ex being verbally (sometimes physically) abusive and manipulative. In addition, a lot happened to us both personally -- he bought a house, I lost a parent, he lost two relatives, and he began a business with his ex that is still up in the air. He has admitted he made horrible choices and was always thinking about me. He is also very much past her and she is not a threat to our relationship at all -- at least not in the sense that he would resume things with her again.
However, she is a threat in that our bad feelings about her are somewhat poisonous and have become embedded into what he and I are trying to rebuild. Although she has moved away from him, she still tries to needle her way into things -- she calls and capitalizes upon the legalities of their business and then it becomes all about her. The fact that they ran this business together makes this almost like a divorce. Whenever she gets mean, he ends the conversation then and there. However, it doesn't stop him from making an unpleasant comment about her -- which, of course, I empathize with completely.
I have no issues with his honesty -- he is the most honest guy I have ever met and always has been. He never lied to me once -- not even when things began with her way back when. I have never met this woman and I absolutely hate her -- which is something I feel uncomfortable about. I hate her because she was a major player in our initial separation, caused me so much hurt, hurt him so much and is still hurting him.
The two of us agree that the years apart were beneficial for us. We are older and wiser and treasure what we have, which is why I just want to find a way for us to not despise her so much. I understand if this letter is a bit confusing, but honestly, it just reflects the resentful bewilderment I feel about her -- or me. I am not sure. I have found myself more than a few times looking her up online and mentally bashing her with the sort of derision I reserve for the Kardashians. That, I know, is not healthy OR constructive.
Our love is strong. This is the one struggle we have. The distance is nothing. Simply put, we are two good people who are feeling really mean and frustrated about this one person. So ... now I am very curious about the armchair online analysis you and your readers have to offer. I just don't know what I can do to make the hateful thought of her less pervasive.
– Nice Chick Otherwise, New England
A: I see two big issues here, NCO. One is that you and your boyfriend are using your shared hatred of this woman as a bonding mechanism. Yes, your boyfriend is trash-talking her because he's processing his anger, but beyond that, it's about using negativity to make your relationship stronger. That's not good.
I want you try to introduce new bonding topics. Whenever you find yourself obsessing about this woman with your boyfriend, shift the conversation so that you're making plans for your life together after your return. When you're on the phone with him, watch the clock. Have you talked about his ex for more than two minutes? If so, distract him (and yourself) by bringing up your eventual move home.
The second big issue here is that it's easier to be angry with your boyfriend's villainous ex than it is to be angry with him. He had practical reasons for ditching you years ago, but you were still hurt. And when he returned, he unearthed a lot of bad memories of you being passed over for a younger woman. You acknowledge your boyfriend's need to process feelings, but you have the same need. You're allowed to be ticked off that he let her worm her way into his life. You're allowed to scream about the past (even if it's to yourself) so that you can really, truly forgive him. Admitting that you're still angry will put things in perspective -- and will make his ex look like less of a monster.
Readers? How can they stop obsessing about his ex’s awfulness? What’s happening here? Am I right about the bonding and the anger at him? Ever become obsessed with a partner’s ex? Help.
– Meredith
He keeps disappearing
Lots of drama yesterday. Two letters. Updates. I'm still reading all of it.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I read your column often and am looking for some advice. I am a single woman after almost 20 years of marriage. After hearing that some of my friends had success with online dating, I decided to try it myself. I was nervous since my last first date was 25 years ago, but I went for it.
I am happy with my life. Mom to a great kid, successful at work, have good friends and a supportive family, but I miss having a connection with that special someone at the end of the day. I met a few men online, but for whatever reason it didn't work out. Either I wasn't attracted to them or they weren't to me.
After a couple of months, I did meet a man and it seemed like we hit it off. We went out for dinners or drinks once or twice a week and sent several flirty emails. Knowing that he still had a profile online, I asked him what we were doing. His reply was: "Casually dating and let's see where it goes." He said he "enjoyed my company and that was a start." After a couple of months it was getting more difficult and expensive to get babysitters, so I invited him to hang out at my house. This became the norm for a few weeks. And we became intimate. And again, knowing he still had a profile on a dating website, I told him I didn't think we could be intimate anymore. We agreed that we should just see each other when we go out for dinner, etc. I was disappointed, since I started to develop feelings for this man. But he again said it was casual and he liked my company.
A week later, he told me he was moving out of state for work. He had been traveling a lot for business anyway. He promised that when he came back (his family still lives here), we would get together. His online profile disappeared. Occasionally, I would get a flirty email from him. And once he said he was coming back for a few days and would contact me but never did. The emails became less frequent and I had given up hope of seeing him.
Eventually, I heard from him. He was in town and asked if I wanted to get together. (Yes, I did.) We had a nice time and were intimate again. This occurred for the next six months when he was in town for work, etc. I saw him almost every six weeks and thought we were fine. He was complimentary and sweet. Always promised that we would see each other again. Once, when I hadn't heard from him, I snooped and found that he had a profile online from this state again, I was devastated. But never said anything to him.
A month later, it disappeared from the website. We saw each other a few months ago and had a nice time. That was the last time I saw him.
Not too long ago, I sent him an email congratulating him on meeting a milestone at work. We sent each other a few emails back and forth. But this time, there was no mention of a visit or a promise to see me when he returned.
I've tried dating a few men since he moved, but they didn't work out. I miss him terribly. And don't understand how he can just date me casually. We seem to have a great connection and he has even said "we are good together." I keep telling myself that if he were into me, he would let me know. So I guess I need to move on and forget him. Or should I tell him how I really feel? I have been too chicken to put myself out there. And afraid to hear his answer. Is he just not into me? Is he afraid of committing to someone? Maybe someone with a child? What should I do??!! After all, he was back online from this state.
– Standing by in CT
A: I'm pretty sure that you've already put yourself out there, SBICT. You've made yourself available. You've asked him about his intentions several times and have tried to set rules about intimacy. If he wanted a commitment from you or to see you more often, he would have asked. You've made it really, really easy for him.
Dating has certainly changed a lot over the past 20 years. People meet online. They text. Women have taken a more active role in the courting process. But none of those changes mean that we're supposed to put up with nonsense or accept less than we deserve. This guy is all over the place and unreliable. Even if you just wanted a casual fling, this guy wouldn't be your best option.
I don't know whether it's your kid, a fear of commitment, or him not being into you, but it sort of doesn't matter. He's not fulfilling your needs so you should be ditching him.
There are other people out there. I can't say that they're easy to find, but looking for a new partner will be less work than trying to figure out whether this guy is online, in your home state, or avoiding you. Stay on these dating sites and keep browsing. Mourn the loss of this magnetic, dramatic, exciting, and very annoying relationship -- and then move on. Use the babysitting money you save to buy yourself a fantastic outfit for dates with other people. Feel good about the fact that you were very much desired -- just not by the right person.
Readers? Should she tell him how she feels or does he know? After 20 years out of the scene, what should she know about expectations? What’s happening with this guy? Help.
– Meredith
He's abroad ... for another year
Leap.
Q: Hi,
I am currently in my senior year of college, and last August my boyfriend of two years decided to study abroad in Europe for an entire calender year. We decided that it would be best if we wouldn't be together. However, this past winter I decided to fly out and see him for two weeks. We explored Europe together and found ourselves in love and calling each other "boyfriend" and "girlfriend." After I came back to the States, he said he missed me so much and promised he would come back after his study abroad experience was done. Well, he then asked me if we wanted to date again. I told him that I did not want to and I wanted it to be like last semester (which was talk all the time, but not commit). However, I told him I was not going to date anyone and I assumed the same for him.
Well, the day after we had this conversation I asked him if he was OK, and he said he was. So, I thought that that meant we were going to be like last semester. Well, we didn't talk for a few days and I asked if we could Skype because he told me he had been hanging out with another girl. He stood me up two times to Skype (where I was going to tell him that I wanted to be with him). Long story short, by the time I got to tell him that I loved him (three weeks later), he had just got into a relationship with this girl and changed his Facebook status. I finally got the chance to Skype him and tell him how I felt, and he was confused and told me he thought it was over at the time and that he wishes we would have communicated better, but that this girl really liked him and he was going to date her.
He then dropped the news that he decided to study abroad for ANOTHER year in Europe. I feel he made those decisions because he was so heartbroken over me, when in fact I wanted him all along.
So confused and upset over the whole thing. Do I delete him as a Facebook friend and move on forever?
– Confused, Boston
A: Delete him. As a Facebook friend and in real life. Move on forever. If he had been that heartbroken, he wouldn't have ditched you on Skype. He would have jumped at the chance to get back together. And really, if you loved him that much, you wouldn't have avoided commitment. You adore him -- when he's close by -- but you didn't want to be his long-distance girlfriend. You're just uncomfortable letting go.
You didn't do anything wrong. Neither did he. You're just young and far away and you can't put your lives on pause. He wants to stay in Europe, and you want someone who can be a real boyfriend. Do yourself a favor and press delete. If he changes his mind, he knows how to find you.
Go out and build your local life. Be honest with yourself about why you didn't want to commit.
Readers? Tips for moving on? Will he come back? What happened here? Discuss.
– Meredith
He's a dud in the bedroom
Happy Leap Day.
We have an extra day this month, so shouldn't we have an extra letter?
We won't chat today, but check back at 1 p.m. for a link (right here) to a Leap Letter.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I've been dating my boyfriend for a little more than a year and a half. He's 33; I'm 27. We were casual acquaintances for about two years before we started dating, and are fairly serious now. I love him for many reasons, including his sense of humor, his love of sports, his intelligence, his love of dogs, his sociable and extroverted nature, and his unconditional support of me in whatever endeavor I've undertaken. However (and of course there is a however), he is terrible in bed. Our sex life is an absolute dud.
It was incredibly underwhelming right from the start, but he had enough good qualities for me to want to work through this issue. He is a former frat boy and spent his college (and post-college) years with a variety of ladies who he obviously did not try to please. Before me, as he admitted himself, his standard operating procedure was to take, take, take, not give. I told him the status quo was not going to cut it with me, and he has since tried very hard to be a giving partner. At first he complained a lot about back pain, and he blamed that for why our sex life had to be very simple. But then he and I got to exercising together, and dropped a significant amount of weight. His performance got significantly better for months, but the last couple have seen us right back where we started. He's been blaming back/hip/leg pain for his inability to perform, or whatever other physical excuse he can find, and it's making me feel awful. He plays a competitive sport a few times a week and he runs regularly with me, but nothing changes in the bedroom.
I feel ugly and undesirable most of the time we are intimate because I'm not getting what I need from him in this setting, and no matter how many conversations we have about it (outside of the bedroom, usually, when things are calm and there's no pressure to perform at hand), no lasting changes have been made. I'm tired of breaking down in tears after yet another failed attempt, and this is becoming a deal-breaker. I don't know how to fix it. I am out of ideas. Please help.
– Tears in the Bedroom
A: There are many variations of "simple," TITB. Try to figure out other ways that "simple" can work for both of you. I mean, I can't run on pavement or flat surfaces for more than a few minutes, but that doesn't mean I have to stick to the elliptical machine at the gym. I can also do that stair climber machine, and I can walk at an incline on a treadmill. I can also do the elliptical machine backwards without aggravating with my shin splits. Catch my drift?
I'm sure that a sex therapist would have a lot to say about this, but as a brain-focused person, I'm mostly worried about your self-esteem, his apathy, and what the bedroom issue means about your relationship. So much of great physical intimacy is about eye contact, emotional bonding, and the ability to be playful with a partner. It sounds like you're missing some of that big stuff, and maybe not just in the bedroom.
As you try to redefine "simple," please spend some time thinking about whether you feel intimacy in your daily emotional life. Yes, he's a great guy with a dog and a sense of humor, but is there real chemistry in your relationship? Is there a romantic, intimate bond? Or is he basically a fantastic friend who signed on to be your boyfriend? Something tells me that the tears are about the big picture. Please take some time to think about all of it before you decide what counts as a deal-breaker.
Readers? It sounds like she's already approached this guy about their bedroom problems in a thoughtful way. What else can she do? And what's the other side of the story here? Is this just about their sex life? Discuss.
– Meredith
My new friend is married
Today's letter has an appetizer. It's a cute note that isn't worth a full day, but I thought you could give the writer some tips before or after you deal with the main course. - M
Appetizer:
Q: Not necessarily a LOVE question. But I need some advice!
My dad lives in a gated community and most of the time when I go over, there's a seriously attractive male working the gate. I'm never sure how to start up a conversation with him, or if it's even worth it! I only pass through the gate for a matter of 5 seconds -- we wave and smile to each other and then I'm on my way. What should I do?!
– KB, Delaware
Main course:
Q: Late last fall, I attended a convention for bicycling enthusiasts where I met an attractive, interesting, outgoing woman. After a bit of small talk, I asked for her phone number and suggested that we get together for bike rides or platonic social events. She agreed, so we planned a first date a month or so later.
On that first date, she admitted that she was married (unhappily), and that her husband spent half the year abroad on business. She told me she agreed to the date because of its platonic nature. We had a great time and have seen each other a few times subsequent to that day.
The problem is that she is giving unmistakable signs that she wants something more. I made it clear, early on, that I would not get romantically involved with a married woman. That reality has not changed anything between us. We still see each other, and nothing happens beyond a quick hug goodbye. We meet in public places and mind our manners in every case. Aside from moral considerations, the last thing is want in my life is an irate husband armed with a shotgun.
I realize that this relationship has no romantic future. I personally don't romantically date someone until they have been divorced for at least a year, and since we don't know each other very well yet, I certainly can't expect her to alter a marriage on account of me. Besides, she indicates that divorce is not an option. As I said, I will not do anything physical with a married woman. I'm free to date others, and can live my life as I choose without interference from her. Most important, she has no children that could be affected by this activity.
Is it wrong to date this married woman as a friend, or am I doing something wrong?
– Concerned in Connecticut
A: It's fine to have a married friend, CIC, but only if she's really a platonic pal. This woman has feelings for you, and you describe your outings as dates. That doesn't sound platonic to me.
I'm worried that after more time together, your relationship boundaries will begin to bleed. A friendship will become an emotional affair. An emotional affair will turn into something you never wanted.
My advice is to see her in groups -- and less frequently. Bring her out with a pack of bikers and let her see that she's one of many friends, and that she doesn't get special treatment. Many commenters will probably tell you to cut her off altogether (and I can't say I disagree with them), but if you feel like there's something to save here, turn her into a member of your greater biking community. It's what's best for her, too.
You mention that there are no kids to confuse, which means that you're doing something confusing. Reserve your date time for someone who's really available.
Readers? Does he have to cut her off? What is he getting out of this? What will happen if they continue this? What are his obligations here? Help.
– Meredith
Insecure about his move
As you've probably noticed, it's Out-of-Towners week here at Love Letters.
Q: Dear Meredith,
My boyfriend wanted me to move in with him a year ago, after I graduated from college and got a job near him. As much as I wanted to, I decided against it because we'd only been dating for a year and I come from a family that doesn't believe in living together before marriage. So I found an apartment four minutes away, and it's been the best of both worlds -- we've been able to live together, without the commitment.
He's wanted to find a better apartment for some time now, and at first planned on staying in town. But now two of our friends are looking for a place and he wants to move in with them, 35 minutes away. I completely understand that he'd want to live with them (after all, I haven't really changed my mind about us living together yet), but I'm scarred he won't want to see me as often.
In the past year, he's only stepped inside my apartment a handful of times (he says the building smells musty, plus there's no parking), so it's been mostly me going to his place. Also, he works days and I work nights, so I often go there on my way home from work. This has worked fine, but I feel like I'm going to be the one driving back and forth all the time after he moves.
Each time I bring this up, he shrugs it off and reminds me his future roommate needs to be near a commuter rail. I'm sure 35 minutes is nothing for most couples who don't live together. However, I have a lot of insecurities about relationships growing/falling apart and they're already popping up just at the thought that he wants to move a little bit away. Thinking about this is making me cry (rare for me). How do I better explain my feelings without sounding needy or like I'm trying to ruin his plans?
– Scared of Change, NJ
A: You are a bit needy and you are trying to ruin his plans, SOC. (Sorry. It's true. We love you anyway.)
My advice is to move to a place that's less musty and has great parking. Because you're right -- he doesn't want to stay at your place, which means that it'll be you doing the driving. Make this change for your sanity. Make it for his roommates, who won't want you at their place all of the time.
And please do some thinking about how you want this relationship to look in a year or two. Do you want to continue working nights or will that schedule make you feel left out of your boyfriend's plans? Do you see yourself changing your mind about the move-in? Instead of focusing on all of your fears, concentrate on your future. Figure out what you want and take steps to make it all happen. Some of this panic has to do with the fact that you don't have a plan.
Once you come up with a strategy, tell him about it. As in, "I'm going to look for a better apartment so you have the option of visiting me without being uncomfortable. And after another year with these leases, I'd like to revisit that move-in." It's more effective to explain your plan than list your insecurities. He'll leave the conversation with an understanding of your hopes, dreams, needs, and expectations. He'll know that you're working to keep this great for both of you.
Readers? Thoughts on freaking out about 35 minutes? Do you think she regrets not moving in with him? Do you think she has to move out of her current apartment? Where do these insecurities come from? Help.
– Meredith
Regretting the breakup
Q: I recently broke up with my boyfriend of 5 years because every 8 months or so I would find myself questioning if he was the person I wanted to spend the rest of my life with. The doubts started after about a year together. Usually, they crept in when we were talking about getting serious and moving in together or during a relationship lull. Usually, after a few more weeks, we'd go back to normal.
I always enjoyed spending time with him. He was my best friend. We laughed together, we enjoyed relaxing and playing with our dogs together, spending time with our respective families, etc.
A little information about us: I'm a law student and he began his career living just over an hour away. We would typically see each other every weekend, but not during the week because of my school requirements. He was wonderfully supportive.
My parents divorced when I was a kid and they've been miserable about each other for most of my life. My dad's second marriage also ended miserably. Needless to say, I'm terrified of marriage, serious commitment, etc. I'm not really sure what it means to be "in love." From what I can see with dealing with divorcing couples on a regular basis through our school's family law clinic, the best you can hope for is to find someone who you get along with well, can work through difficult times with, and who overall makes you happy. I knew I loved and still love my boyfriend, and at times would believe I was in love with him, but when I would start questioning us I would start wondering if I was really in love with him.
Now that we're broken up, I'm not sure if I made the right choice. I miss him and still love him, of course. I don't know what was causing the doubt. Was it my fears? Was it that there was something missing emotionally? Was it our circumstance (being long distance), or was it my selfish coveting of the life I didn't have (which now I realize is not what it's chalked up to be)?
My question is: Was I right to break up with him? Does it seem like it could be something that could be fixed and otherwise we would be good together? Why did I continue to go through those times of questioning? Just any advice, insight you can give would be amazing.
I just don't want to be like my parents and 35% of the US married population and make the wrong decision about a partner and divorce.
– Did I Make A Mistake, Baton Rouge
A: I can't tell you whether you and this guy are good together, but I can tell you that you miss him and love him and that you're confused. So call him and tell him that. He might say, "Please, enough already, leave me alone," or he might hear you out. But it's worth asking. You're not making any promises. You're just being honest.
Every relationship has lulls and moments of doubt, especially when one person in the couple is in law school, trained to ask questions, and grew up around divorce. My guess is that your doubts and reasons for breaking up with him were legitimate, but that you're entering a new phase of life. You're imagining life after law school. You're wondering if he might be a better fit for you once you've settled down.
My advice is to call him and be clear about the fact that you don't know what's going on in your head. He'll either tell you he's not interested or agree to explore this one more time. If he does want to explore, you might find yourself in this position again in a few more months. But at least you won't be plagued by self-doubt. And here's a tip: If he is open to seeing you and you start hanging out again, don't ask yourself any huge, is-he-the-one questions. Ask yourself, "Am I having a good time? Do I feel good? Do I want to see him tomorrow?" For a little while, the simple stuff is all you need to know.
Readers? Should she reach out? Will she be messing with his head? Is this about being a student? What about those doubts? Should she have time alone? Help.
– Meredith
He's obsessed with work
A reminder: All college students (not just BU people) are invited to tonight's event at Boston University.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I have been in a relationship for more than a year. We love each other very much and I can picture myself marrying him someday. But recently we had a problem. One of my family members passed away, and he couldn't come to the funeral to support me because he was having an anxiety attack about missing work. This need to work is something that has bothered me the entire time I have been with him. My worry is that he cares more about work than me. He says that he doesn't, that he loves me more, and that I am more important than anything. But he just can't be happy unless he completes his work. He is impossibly stressed and distracted, not to mention the occasional anxiety attacks.
I don't want him to be unhappy or stressed, but at the same time, I feel neglected. His response when I talked to him was along the lines of "well this is me and you are just going to have to accept it." He is a kind and gentle person that treats me well, except when it comes to this. I am at a loss. I love him and even the thought of being without him is almost too much to bear. But I don't want to be unhappy for the rest of my life. And most of all, I am terrified that when something like that happens again, the one person I depend on won't be there to help me.
– Holdingontolove, New York
A: I'm sitting here trying to decide what he does for a living and whether there's any profession that excuses this type of abandonment. Because even the president takes time off for funerals. Even international pop stars cancel tours for family emergencies.
He's telling you that you have to accept this obsessive part of him but you don't, of course. You need someone who can finish his work and come home to you without becoming an anxious, resentful mess.
If he admitted that he has a problem -- that he's obsessed with work and needs to be treated for anxiety attacks -- I'd be more hopeful about this relationship. But he's not self-aware about any of this and it's making you miserable.
My advice is to ask him how he defines his work-related anxiety. Does he plan to be this way forever? Does he want to get help? Can he acknowledge that he left you alone during a time of need? How did he feel when he was at work and he knew that you were alone at a funeral? Will there ever be room for compromise?
If he sticks to the "this is me" routine, you can't continue the relationship. You say that you're terrified. That's no way to be. He either wants to make this better or he doesn't.
Readers? Is there any job out there that excuses this behavior? Have you ever dated someone who's work obsessed? Is this a problem that’s related to the economy? Can their relationship be fixed? What should she ask/tell him? Discuss.
– Meredith
Falling for my married boss
Two things:
1. Boston University is hosting a very fun panel on Tuesday night about love, Love Letters, and college relationships. It is open to all college students -- not just BU folks -- so if you're matriculated anywhere, please forget all Beanpot rivalries and attend.
2. I'll be teaching kids how to write advice next Friday as part of a February break program at 826 Boston. I want kids to be answering real letters, so if you have a problem that you want the 12-and-up crowd to answer, please help by emailing me your dilemma to meregoldstein at gmail dot com with "826" in the subject line. This will be a very fun activity for these kids, and I'll post some of their advice. Keep the subject matter family friendly, please. Make them think. And if you have a Boston kid who's going to be bored next week, feel free to sign them up.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I'm in my mid-20s and for the past eight months have been working for a small business in the industry I want to specialize in. My boss is about 20-ish years older than me and established enough that his name is worth dropping in some circles. I'm a friendly person (or so I like to think), and he is always cheerful and open. We have a very easy working relationship that has extended to a mentorship. Although there is a big age difference, we have many similarities -- our backgrounds, ambitions, sense of humor, family loyalty, etc. Over the past several months I have come to regard him not just as my employer and mentor, but as a good friend.
In the last few weeks, however, it has become increasingly clear that my boss is interested in taking our relationship to the next level. He is charming by nature, and flirts with practically everyone he meets, so I was caught off guard when he became more flirty than usual one night after work. Up until that moment, I had never even considered him in a romantic light, partly because he is my employer, and mostly because he is married and has a young child.
At first I thought he was just lonely and in need of company (he has to stay in the city alone a lot) and I just happened to be nearby. However, he's made it clear that his interest in me is not purely sexual. I haven't felt harassed by his attention (I've done the corporate harassment training and know what is inappropriate). It honestly feels like he is pursuing me as if he were single and wants to date me properly.
My first reaction was knee-jerk -- to get away as soon as I possibly could. Regardless of how this all plays out, I have a lot to lose. The industry we work in and his reputation in it are such that he could damage my career prospects, not just by firing me, but also by blacklisting me in academic and internship placements. Obviously, I'm not the first girl to find herself in this situation, and it seems like the standard is that the junior people are the ones who have to quietly disappear. Of course, his family is also on the line, but I do wonder if this is even an issue for him, given how blatant he's been thus far. He often mentions his child, although rarely talks about his wife.
What makes it hard to go against my first reaction is that I'm finding it terribly hard to think badly of him (here's the part where I feel like a horrible person). I've considered him a close friend for a while now, and I'm certain that he feels the same. We've shared both professional and private worries, and I have always felt at ease with him. We have a natural, comfortable dynamic to the point that other people we've worked with have said that they've never seen two people more well-matched. Apart from his current circumstances, he is someone with whom I can easily see myself becoming seriously involved. He has told me that he is happily married, but is confused about where I belong in his life.
All this being said, I like to think I am a good person with a healthy set of morals. I have been cheated on before, and I don't think I could ever be responsible for making another woman feel that way, especially when there is a child involved. I've turned to friends for advice, many of whom have not been supportive. I've been called and accused of lots of unpleasant things, which has been upsetting to say the least. My guilt at what he is proposing does not change my feelings for him -- it's just added to the jumble of emotions inside my head. I could really use some constructive advice on how to move forward. Thanks in advance to you and the readers.
– Possibly the other woman, NY
A: I'm so glad that you emailed us now, PTOW. So many letter writers check in after they've become the other woman. I always wish I could throw them in a Love Letters time machine and give them pre-affair advice.
But you're catching yourself and asking big questions at just the right time. You know that a great professional friendship has evolved into a romantic relationship. You know that you like that relationship -- but that it's very wrong. I understand that you're charmed by this guy and that you're similar in some ways, but ... you're actually very different. Like opposites.
1. He's married and you're not.
2. He has a kid and you don't.
3. He's a pro in his career and you're just starting out.
4. He's 20 years older than you.
He did you a big favor by telling you that he's happily married. Now you can say to him, "I think it's wonderful that you're in a good marriage and I have no plans to spoil that. Let's focus on professional respect. Let's be responsible, trustworthy, professional adults." Set boundaries and respect them. No hanging out outside of work. No date behavior.
You emailed us now because you know what's right. Frankly, even if he wasn't married, I'd tell you to stay away. Mentors and bosses aren't supposed to be boyfriends. And you don't want to be with a guy who "flirts with practically everyone he meets." Ask those smart friends of yours to help you look for better dating options. Keep yourself busy after work. Read that list of differences over and over and over.
Readers? How can she stop this relationship from progressing? Is this a sexual harassment issue without her knowing it? What is happening here and how should she proceed? Should she report this to anyone? Discuss.
– Meredith
Sex after 'the change'
This letter writer didn't tell me where he's from. So let's just picture him living in ... Jamaica Plain.
Please keep your comments respectful -- and PG.
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Q: Meredith, here's one I don't remember seeing addressed.
I love my girlfriend of many years, we get along great, she's low maintenance, and we've cohabitated for many years (she's older than me). No problem there! In that time, however, she went through the change of life. I thought, no more birth control, great! But it was so much more. While she's just as loving a person as ever, the entire sexual tension aspect is just gone! She'll still be intimate and enjoy it (when I start it), but the buildup, the teasing, and the sex drive in general is gone.
And the smells are different too, in a bad way, making certain things we used to do (and enjoy) rather unpleasant. While I'd never hurt her, I now can understand why men go for younger women. You'd have to have a pretty golden relationship to survive this. What can I do to reconcile myself to this new reality? I'm not ready to be this old!
Thank you.
– The Big Change
A: I know you're upset, TBC, but there are so many wonderful things about your letter. You love this woman. You want her to be hot for you. You've had a fantastic sex life for years. Even now, as she's coping with a major biological change, you guys are working to be intimate. You have a lovely foundation here. Have faith in it, and consider this an adjustment period, not your new reality.
Go see a doctor. With her. Because you need to find out what's going on and whether there's anything you can do to make it better. The pharmaceutical industry has put a great deal of effort into developing pills that make us want to get it on (and maybe even smell right). Go find out what your options are and whether all of these changes have to be permanent.
I want you to know that menopause isn't the only thing that can mess up your sex life. Many people will tell you that their libido changed after having kids. For all you know, your own sex drive has changed over the years in small ways that have affected your girlfriend. No matter what we do, our bodies are always in flux. Finding a younger girlfriend doesn't prevent these issues.
I empathize. This is all scary, weird, and uncomfortable. The good news is that you're in love with your girlfriend, you can be honest with her, and there are doctors who specialize in this kind of thing. Hang in there, and start getting some answers.
Readers? Is this why people find younger partners? Have you gone through a similar situation? What should he do? How can he cope with feeling older because of his partner? Help.
– Meredith
Surviving a cheat
Q: Hi Meredith,
About two years ago I met this guy, Eric. We hit it off instantly and basically became inseparable from day one. After a few months of dating I was staying at his apartment every night. I was 100% positive that I had found the man I was going to marry. Things continued to be great, and about one year into the relationship we decided to find a new apartment and move in together.
We were both really excited about moving in together at first, but then as the time came closer I started having doubts. All of a sudden everything just seemed to be happening so fast. One important thing to mention here is that I'm in my mid-20s and Eric is about 30. Although he wasn't pressuring me, it was very apparent that he was ready to get married and have kids. I did not feel quite ready for those things. The fear about marriage/kids then turned into doubt about how I can be sure at 24 that I want to spend the rest of my life with this person. I can hardly bring myself to say the next series of events, but I ended up cheating on Eric a few months ago. I told him everything and we tried to work it out for awhile, but it was hard to keep the relationship going without a foundation of trust and with all of the hurt/pain I caused him. I ended up moving out a few weeks ago.
Here's the issue: although I've moved out, Eric and I still talk all of the time. We even spend one or two nights/week together. I love him so much, and I want things to work out. I wish I could erase the past few months because all of my reckless behavior made me realize that my concerns were unfounded and I do want to marry him. But now I've just made a horrible mess of everything. Eric says that he wants to forgive me and work things out but that we need some time apart to heal. I also know that he's been doing some online dating though ... basically I just don't know what to do at this point. I feel like I'm in an endless waiting room just hoping that Eric will come through the door and say that he's ready to try again.
Do you think I should give Eric some more space and hope that he can come to terms with what happened and forgive me? If yes, how long do I wait? Or should I cut ties now and try to move on? Help.
– Waiting in Boston
A: If you really want Eric, you have to give him more time, WIB. You cheated, you moved out, and now you're in a confusing, messy situation that has him reevaluating his options. Some of this just has to run its course, which means you might be stuck in that waiting room for a few more months.
As for how long you should wait, well, you have to go with your gut on that. If you feel taunted by his online dating or if it's been months and there are no plans to reinstate exclusivity, you can tell him that you need your own space and walk away. You did a bad, bad thing and he deserves some time to process it, but processing is different than punishing. Trust your instincts.
I'm also going to advise that you use this time wisely. Are you sure that you want to marry this guy soon? If he calls you tomorrow, asks you to move back in, and wants to make a baby, are you open to that? I know that you miss him, and I do believe that the threat of losing someone can give us real clarity, but please, don't make promises you can't keep. Knowing that you miss him doesn't mean that you're any more committed than you were before. Use this waiting room time to think about your own needs.
Readers? Obviously she knows she messed up, but what happens next? Does she really want to marry him? If so, how much time should she give him? Should he be online dating in her face? Should they be seeing each other at all during this time? Help.
– Meredith
She's jealous and I'm exhausted
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Q: Hey Meredith,
I have to admit that I feel awkward writing to you. I don't know just how much help I need, but here it goes. I'm in my early-mid 20s and with a fantastic girl. She loves me unabashedly, and I love her with all of my heart. We've been together for a little over a year, and it is the longest relationship for both of us. We're planning to move in together this summer, and I feel like things are on a great path. So what's the problem? Frankly, she's incredibly insecure, and it's exhausting.
She has had issues with men cheating on her in the past, and in the interest of full disclosure, I have had issues with cheating on people in the past. I have never cheated on her, and I have turned down every opportunity that I have had to do so. However, she needs constant affirmation that I love her and will not cheat on her. Whenever I go out without her, she is compelled to ask if I talked to any other woman, or was flirty/flirted with. Her insecurity has caused her to be wary (to put it lightly) of my relationship with my best friend, who is female. My friend and I have known each other for over a decade, had a failed relationship in the seventh grade, and have been happily platonic ever since. However, my girlfriend has constantly had issues trusting me when I say this girl is a friend and nothing more. This has led to constant fights whenever I spend time with my friend.
I am exhausted. I honestly try my hardest to show her all the love and support that she needs to get through this. She is against seeing a therapist, for reasons that I'm not too certain of. And in her defense, she has made efforts to improve on these things, but sometimes it's just too frustrating to deal with. It honestly drives me away from her. I definitely love her and I want to be with her. But I want to be able to have my own life separate from her, where I can see friends, and go out, without having to deal with the drama afterward. I worry that when we move in it will be the end of "independent me" (a la "Seinfeld"). I need her to find a way to resolve her insecurities. But it seems like something she has to do on her own. Any ideas for ways that I can support her while keeping my sanity?
– Exhausted But Committed, Boston
A: EBC, don't move in with her. Not yet, at least. Moving in won't solve these jealousy problems. Moving in certainly won't stop you from being exhausted all of the time.
You're supposed to move in with someone when things are going really well. That's not what's happening here. You're using words like "constant," "wary," and "drama." You're worried about losing your best friend. I know it's all balanced by good stuff, but you're signing up to make your relationship a full-time job.
I do believe that that you guys are in love. And I will admit that a move-in can sometimes put insecure people at ease (they know that no matter what, their partners will eventually come home). But your relationship is too shaky for major change. And your girlfriend is just beginning to work on making this better.
My advice is to slow this down. Tell her that you want to be with someone who's open to therapy if there are problems in the relationship. Tell her that you want to do this right so that you actually have a shot at staying together. Tell her what you need to know before you move in with her.
Readers? Is this relationship too flawed to fix? Can people prone to jealousy explain how moving in helps ... or hurts? How can he slow this relationship down without making her more insecure? Discuss.
– Meredith
We're having trouble after moving in
Thanks to the folks who attended the "Cruel Intentions" screening on Friday. It was ... scandalous. With high-waisted jeans and bittersweet symphonies.
Q: My boyfriend and I having been living together for over a year. He lived with me at MY old apartment and then we decided to get one together. I'm 26, he's 24. I'm a working a professional, he works from home. In the time that we have lived at the new apartment, we’ve had a lot of up and downs, mostly with him having commitment issues after moving. But we have gotten through it and are at a good point in our relationship -- sort of.
I think it's important to have time out individually but he NEVER invites me out with his friends. For example, I am a football fan, and we watched every game this season at home alone together -- but when he got invited to a Super Bowl party, he didn't bring me. It's upsetting because I'd like to be invited sometimes.
Also, he's not very interested in sex anymore. I know we've been together for a while and it’s not going to be every night, but he just seems to have no interest. I've talked to him about it and he says he wants to work on it, but nothing changes. I've also talked to him about the hanging out issue, and he says "I hang out with you all the time, I want to go out sometimes, you shouldn't make me feel bad about it." I'd like some advice. I don't want to break up but I don't know what this all means?!!!
– Nurse J, New York
A: This doesn't sound promising, NJ. As soon as you started living together (as opposed to just crashing in the same place) he became disinterested and began looking for ways to escape.
His working from home doesn't help matters. I'm sure that the isolation makes it that much more important for him to have alone time with peers. But why didn't he have these problems in the old place? And why the lack of interest in sex?
There's certainly an adjustment period with move-ins, but you can only be so understanding and accommodating. He seems unhappy with this living arrangement, so you have to ask him why. Is this job angst or does he regret moving into the new apartment? If he could design his perfect life right now, where would he live? Where would you live? How often would you have sex? How would you spend time together?
Instead of telling him why this isn't working for you, ask him those big questions. You might find out that when it comes to goals for cohabitation, you're simply incompatible. Or maybe you'll learn that these issues are easy to fix and temporary. So ask. Discuss his answers and your own. Find out whether you can be happy with his plan for the future. If not, get a new roommate.
Readers? Is this a weird move-in phase or is there a bigger problem? If you live with someone, should you invite them out with your friends? How does his job affect their issues? Discuss.
– Meredith
When he's bad, he's awful
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Q: Hi Meredith (and commenters),
I have been in a relationship for almost 1.5 years with a good-hearted guy that I'm in love with. We're both in our mid-20s. We have been through a lot together, and we live together. We have a lot in common and I can see a bright, loving future with him.
We have occasional to frequent issues. When things are good, they're great. When they're bad, they’re awful. He has a hard time trusting me. I think it has a lot to do with his past. His parents had him very young and they only stayed together for about a year after he was born. They did not show him a lot of genuine affection and care growing up, and he did not have a stable life. He also has had bad relationships, where the girlfriend betrayed him emotionally, physically, and even financially (which I understand, but most people deal with at least one bad relationship experience). When something goes a little sour with us, he overreacts. He also assumes the worst about me -- that I'm lying about being faithful, and he seems to expect to find out negative things about me. He will have outbursts where he is mean and irrational. He has also recently been feeling very depressed.
He is an emotional person, and I knew that from the get-go. But I don't feel that I deserve any of his skepticism. I have been nothing but honest and trustworthy in our relationship. I have worked very hard to make things work in our relationship. I tolerate a lot of his doubts and reassure him when he asks about things (although now I doubt whether I should have kept doing so after a certain point). I pick my battles, walk away when I see we need to cool off, and I also took my current job in order to afford an apartment together (it's not my ideal job).
I have suggested therapy, but he refuses. I suggested other methods to try to feel better, but he ignores me or says I'm pushing him. He hasn't tried anything to overcome his negative feelings, lack of trust, or depression. I know it's beyond my control, but I'm starting to feel helpless. I can't understand why he’s letting this continue when it's harming our relationship. I don't know what else to do. I have thought about breaking things off, but I can't stand the thought of being without him. What do I do?
– Helpless in the Hub, Boston
A: I understand that you already live with your boyfriend, HITH, but at 1.5 years you're still getting to know each other. And you've just learned something important -- that when your boyfriend has a problem that affects both of you, he won't seek out help.
My advice is to go to therapy yourself so that you have a safe place where you can make decisions. Your boyfriend will also see that you're taking your own advice. Ask him to come to your therapist -- as a guest -- and see if he calls that "pushing."
At 1.5 years you're hoping for promises of longer commitments, happiness, more love, etc., but that's not what you're getting. How long will you feel safe in this relationship?
If he won't work on himself, you're going to have to let go -- because the bad stuff is outweighing the good. Get to therapy and see if he follows your lead. If he doesn't and continues this, then you have to walk away. You’re doing too much and he's just not doing anything.
Readers? I imagine that there are many wonderful things about this relationship that we're not hearing, but do these negatives outweigh everything? Is she "pushing" him? What can you do about a partner who won't get help? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm feeling stuck
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And we chat today at 1.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I have been going out with a guy off and on for the past 3 years. A family friend introduced us. Initially, we were going out every 1-1.5 weeks. We would keep in touch in between by email or text and a few times by phone. After about 7 months of this, I was wondering where the relationship was going and wanted to spend more than once a week getting together. Hence, I made the decision to "have a discussion." He pretty much told me that he did not feel the same so I broke off all contact. After 1 month, I decided to contact him via email that I wanted to return to him his belongings.
Fast forward 2.5 years and we get together once or twice a month, usually for brunch or dinner. We do email or text once a week and talk on phone occasionally. Also, in this time, we have gone on one away trip that lasted 3 days. When we get together, we have fun (I do and think he does too). Our families, who have met twice, seem to interact well. He has met some of my friends and I have met some of the people he works with. In hopes of trying to get past the "let get together for lunch/dinner," I have invited him to join me for activities I enjoy (e.g. basketball game or going to see a movie/musical) but he has declined. He has told me, at times, that he enjoys being able to get home at night and not having to deal with others. I will admit that in the past 1.5 years, when I have become frustrated with him, I have gone out with other guys but none have progressed past a few dates.
Have I settled on a "relationship" that is going nowhere? Should I close this chapter and move on, as it may be holding me back? Thanks for your advice (and to all the readers)!
– Am I Stuck?, Boston
A: You are absolutely stuck, AIS. Sorry.
I'm a little confused about the timeline here and why you started hanging out with him again after you first cut him off, but you've basically spent the better part of three years trying to change someone's mind. Pursuing someone like that can become an addiction. You lose track of whether you're really interested in the object of your affection or whether you're just trying to undo the rejection.
Your guy isn't worth this much energy. He enjoys being able to "get home at night and not having to deal with others." Even if you were the exception to that rule (you're not) he doesn't seem like the right match for you. You're a people person.
Please cut him off. Please stop coming up with ways to win him over. Please stop counting how many times you get to see him. Please imagine what it would be like to have someone around more than 1.5 times a week -- or month. It's time to un-stuck yourself. Call some real friends and tell them to help you along.
Readers? Why is this guy seeing her at all? Is there any chance for a relationship here? Is pursing him an addiction? Help.
– Meredith
Men and strip clubs
Buy your tickets to Friday's screening of "Cruel Intentions." Film critic Wesley Morris and I will be there to answer questions about this film and why it's so darn sexy. You can also enter this contest to have a free dinner with us.
Also, the woman who wrote this letter did not say "ice cream cones," but I'm keeping it PG. Please keep it PG.
And let's try to keep that off-topic stuff in the message boards (the champagne rooms) -- or save it for late in the day. I don't mind conversation, but these letters deserve some undivided attention.
Q: My fiancé of 3+ years is planning a vacation with his buddies/co-workers to Atlantic City. I asked if I could come along, since we had been talking about planning a similar trip. When he said it was an all-guys trip, I brushed it off until he mentioned that a woman, who happens to be a lesbian, is also attending. This raised a flag to me because I instinctively know what this means: strip clubs. When I asked why she was allowed to go, his response was, "Well, she's not gonna mind if I have [ice cream cones] in my face."
Keep in mind that his friends either have been married for a while or are single. Now I know that it is in every man's DNA to want to see a naked woman, but I can't help but be bothered by this. I am not sure if it's because we were trying to plan a trip like this for the two of us and now he's decided to go with his male friends, or if I'm just bothered that his sole purpose for going is for a strip club.
Regardless, I am bothered by the fact that his whole weekend will be spent blowing money at strip clubs -- money that we're trying desperately to save for a house and a wedding. I never thought of myself as a jealous person, but now that I am faced with this issue, I am beginning to think that's exactly what I am.
It's not that I think he's going to cheat, but cheating for a male means different things than for a female. If I knew that he was [looking at ice cream cones] and was very [close to sampling ice cream cones], I would be extremely upset. The counter-argument I brought up was, "If you found out I had my hands or face in some guy's [ice cream cones], you would be upset too."
Knowing that men go to strip clubs to see beautifully-sculpted naked women (and pay them to be their eye candy) makes me resentful that he isn't satisfied with what he has at home. I will give myself credit and say that I am a stunning young woman, who could stand to lose a few pounds, but nevertheless I am very good-looking and like to make my man happy.
Is this irrational? Am I crazy to get so upset by this, and do I just have to let it go? Or do I have a right to voice my concerns without seeming like a nagging girlfriend who can't let her man go to a strip club for a weekend. I know that telling/asking him not to go will only make him resentful and want to do it even more in the long run, but I won't be able to sleep the whole weekend he's gone, and I probably won't be able to get bad thoughts out of my head. I also probably wouldn't be able to look at or touch him knowing where he's been.
I just need some guidance from some rational men and women, in healthy, long-term relationships who have faced similar situations. Why do men feel the need to touch and look at other women, when they have their own beautiful women at home?! Who they don't have to pay...
– ConfusedAboutMen, Medford
A: I get a lot of letters from people who want to know how I feel about strip clubs, and, well, my answer is too complicated to stick into a simple Q&A.
But I can tell you that the people who write in about strip club issues often have other big problems in their relationships. If your guy was doing a good job of saving money for the wedding, would you be as upset about this trip? If he gave a more respectful, loving answer to your question about the vacation, would you be so focused on the strip club? Are you really jealous about what he'll do with these women -- or is this about your fiancé's priorities?
It seems to me that after a 3.5-year engagement, you're feeling a bit forgotten. I mean, even if the "ice cream cones in my face" thing was a joke, you were obviously upset. He could have comforted you and made you feel safe. He could have discussed boundaries for the trip.
My advice is to take the strip club thing off the table so that you can clear your head. Think (and talk) about the stuff that bothers you on a daily basis. Those are the issues that are worth your attention. And feel free to tell him how you define cheating. He should be open to (and expect) that kind of conversation before this trip.
Readers? Thoughts on strip clubs and cheating? Is this really about the strip club? Am I wrong to say that she'd be more comfortable with the trip if he were better on a day-to-day basis? Discuss.
– Meredith
I want to meet his kids
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Q: My boyfriend and I have been dating for a little over six months and we have a very loving and trusting relationship. We both recognize the long-term potential in this and have started the discussion of getting engaged and moving in together. After a long marriage with five wonderful kids, he got divorced a few years ago. I am also divorced with a young son who adores my boyfriend. Although there is a 15 year age difference between the two of us (I'm younger), we have proven compatible so far in all the important areas of our relationship. Our friends and family have all been extremely supportive of us, and we have both fit comfortably in each other's circles, with one exception: he has not introduced me to his children (except for the eldest).
My boyfriend tells me that the other children know that he has a girlfriend, and that the eldest has been supportive of our relationship in front of his siblings. But I would still like the opportunity to meet the other children in the near future and begin working on having a relationship with them. (They live with their mother.) My boyfriend says he doesn't want to confuse them. I trust his judgment and know that he wants what is best for all parties involved. But I feel like he has two different lives right now: one with me and one with his children. It makes me sad at times when I'm not included in activities with them.
I am trying to be gentle with broaching this topic again with my boyfriend because I know he feels pulled in a bunch of different directions. I just wonder whether his reluctance to introduce me to his children is a sign of his insecurity about our future. Are we moving too fast? Shouldn't I meet the children before we move in together? Do I even have a right to influence this important decision?
– I want to be part of the family too, Newton
A: You should absolutely meet his kids before you move in with him, but it just might be too early for any of your big plans. Sure, you're talking about long-term goals, but it's only been six months. Do you really need to do these things right now? Maybe he wants some time to enjoy you and this wonderful, fun phase of your relationship before he begins to deal with a more complicated reality. Once you meet the kids (and the ex-wife), it becomes a different kind of partnership. When you talk about getting engaged, do you mean right now?
My advice is to tell him what you need, as opposed to telling him how you think he should deal with his kids. You can say, "I'm just not comfortable moving in with you until I've met the kids." You can say, "I respect that you're not ready for me to meet your family, but can we come up with some ideas about when and how I should introduce myself?"
My guess is that as happy as he is, he's overwhelmed by the next steps. I don't blame him. I would talk to him about his timeline and ask questions about how he feels. (As in, "I imagine that this introduction will be scary for you. How do you feel about it?") Be clear about your needs and ask him about his. Understand that even after you meet the kids, you won't always be a part of these family activities.
And … enjoy all of the great things that happen at six months. It's fantastic that you're serious about each other, but six months is six months. You need to have a conversation with this guy about whether your long-term plans should be called just that.
Readers? Should he be coming up with a timeline? Should marriage be on the table? How can she manage her expectations? Should they be discussing these big things if he's not ready to introduce her to his kids? Discuss.
– Meredith
I can't be a damsel in distress
At first I was puzzled by the outcome of the Romance Rumble finals, but then I thought: I cannot wait to see one of these movies with you guys. You can buy tickets for next Friday's screening of the winner of this hot mess here. Film critic Wesley Morris and I will be there with buckets of popcorn. And maybe, no matter what wins, Wesley and I will do a quick reenactment of the losing film. (I'll be the Denise Richards or Selma Blair; Wesley will be Kevin Bacon or Sarah Michelle Gellar.) Bring friends. Tickets are only $8.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I am an early-30s, female physician-in-training who is attractive, smart, well-traveled, funny, kind and ... single. I don't mind being single. In fact, I think there are lots of great aspects to being un-partnered. Yet, it's been years since my last serious relationship and I'm yearning to wake up with the same person every day, to have a travel companion, to cook dinner and converse with someone about our daily activities, to have regular sex, and yes, to find the person I'll marry and have children with.
My trouble is that while I'm very attractive and have no problem attracting men (heads turn when I walk into a restaurant for instance), I am almost never asked out on dates. Several people, mainly friends from work, have told me that they initially found me intimidating but that after getting to know me, they've realized that I have a heart of gold.
I think there are a few reasons why I may give off this vibe. First, I have a horribly dysfunctional family, which has forced me to do many things on my own. For example, moving and paying for all of my education. I can't play the damsel in distress because I haven't had the luxury of knowing Prince Charming would save me. Secondly, I've moved several times for school, have worked and lived abroad, and have traveled extensively. In doing so, I've mastered the art of appearing very confident even when I was clueless so as to protect myself from getting mugged or taking advantage of. Third, I work in a profession that doesn't reward the damsel in distress. As a budding doctor, I need to study, learn, and know a lot to best care for my patients. So, outside of work, I have a hard time smiling and saying yes to the sweet man at the gym who offers me an umbrella for the deluge outside or the man who offers to carry my groceries. Along those same lines, I'm a very cerebral person. I'm a thinker, and when I'm in my daily routine, for example walking to the train from my apartment, my brain is contemplating a multitude of things. In total, I've just done so many things on my own, most of which I've been very lucky to have had control over, that it's hard for me to let my guard down and be in the moment to let Mr. Right in.
Let me add, however, that I do meet men whenever I happen to travel. There's something about me being in a foreign environment where I'm in the moment, not thinking of something somewhere else, that relaxes me and invokes my curious fun-loving side which attracts men.
My question to you is how do I tap into the adventurous, fun loving side of me in my everyday life to become more inviting to men without having to play the ditzy, helpless maiden in distress or coming across as a cougar who wants a romp in the hay? I'm curious to hear what light you can shed on my situation.
– Funny, Well-Traveled, Cerebral Hottie in Need of Love
A: I don't think that cool guys (guys worth dating) want to date damsels in distress, FWTCHINOL. Ditzy maidens are annoying after about 45 minutes. I mean, even in Disney movies, the ladies wind up saving themselves. Guys (and gals, for that matter) want to date someone who is fascinating -- and fascinated by them. They want to be around someone who pays attention to what they do and say.
When you're away and on vacation, you're out of your own head and capable of putting the focus on someone else. That's what makes you charming. At home you're focused on your job, bills, friends, family, and whether there will be traffic by Fenway or the Garden. Home life can make a person ... weirdly self-absorbed.
My advice is to make it a goal to talk to at least a few strangers every week. And by talk, I mean listen. When you go to a party or are out at a bar in a group, seek someone out and ask questions. Get to know them. Make it homework. Don't even think about whether they're datable or whether you're turning them off with your power and independence. Just think about them.
At the end of the day, people want to be cared for as much as they care for someone else. That's what's missing here. I don't think that you're intimidating because you're awesome (you are, by the way). I do think that you might seem unapproachable because you aren't giving off the vibe that you're interested in learning about someone else.
Just food for thought. We get a lot of "Why am I single?" letters and I never have a magic answer. But ... this is my guess based on what you've told us. There's a big difference between being a damsel in distress and being deeply interested in another human being.
Readers? What's happening here? Am I right? Is there someone else that she can do? What about the damsel in distress stuff? Is she any different than anyone else who's having trouble meeting someone? Help.
– Meredith
Am I too young to commit?
And remember to vote in the next round of the Romance Rumble. I'll give you a link to buy tickets to next Friday's screening soon. Looks like you've chosen Sarah Michelle Gellar over Natalie Portman.
Q: I have been with a 30-year-old man for about 1.5 years. It's been long distance the entire time so it's been tough, but we've suffered through it because of the depth of our love. However, we've hit a wall. We know that to stay together, we need to move in together, but that requires one of us making a trans-Atlantic move. So the plan is for me to come to Europe for 3 months, and then him to the states permanently after that.
I have no issue going to Europe, because I want to be with him so bad. My issue with him moving to the States is that is sounds too much like marriage. I can't have anyone moving here without promising them some serious commitment. This scares me, because I'm only 20 and I'm worried that I would be settling down too young and missing out on a plethora of crazy experiences. However, I love him dearly.
And so now we're on a break -- imposed by him -- because of how I feel. The purpose of it is for me to experience things and see how life is without him. But now I just feel depressed.
I love him so much and it's so unfair that to be together we have to make such a big decision. I know for a fact that if I were to stay with him I'd have a happy, fulfilled life. The bigger risk is looking around and figuring out what's out there. Some small voice inside of me is telling me that what's out there is awful, but it still has not killed my curiosity.
I'm plagued by this 20-year-old "I don't know what I want" mindset. Although I'm a firm believer in holding onto love whenever you find it, I'm worried that all the people who tell me never to settle down young are right.
However, before you comment I urge you to remember that stats show that going along until your 30s to find someone to settle down with actually makes things harder on yourself as far as love. Studies have proven that the dating game tends to give you psychological scars that you could have prevented by settling down younger. Moreover, studies show that by committing your 20s to being carefree and "finding yourself" actually decreases your chances of finding a long, lasting and healthy relationship, considering the lasting effects of having a "me" disposition for so long. Also, who wants to be old with kids? Furthermore, who wants to be without someone who will love and support you?
I'm at a point where I'm worried that I'm making the biggest mistake of my life by taking a break and walking out of my relationship. I don't know what it means to define myself without him anymore.
– Advice?, Chicago
A: That second to last paragraph was awesome. Unparalleled awesome. It was you making a massive case (citing studies!) to convince us that your relationship is worth preserving.
If that's how you feel, preserve it. I'm not going to tell you that there's nothing else out there or that settling down at 20 is always a fantastic idea, but I will tell you that if you're excited about the person you're with, you should pursue your relationship with high hopes. What else can you do?
His moving here doesn't have to mean that you're on the cusp of marriage. Yes, he'll be making a big move for love, but after a few months in Europe, you both might feel better about what comes next. And if he does move here, he doesn't have to live with you. He can get his own place nearby.
All you can promise him right now is that you have the best of intentions. That's all he can promise you. You don't know what it'll be like to live in the same city. You either want to find out or you don't.
Forget the studies, stop trying to force yourself to be single, and go to Europe to see how you feel. If you're still as into this guy after the trip, work with him to develop a realistic, less-scary plan for his move.
Readers? Does his moving to the US have to mean marriage? Should she end this break or give herself more time to be single? Is she right about the studies and the dating scars? What do you think she wants to/should do? Help.
– Meredith
Should I wait for him to mature?
Have you voted for your favorite sexy movie? Round 1 is already over. (No more "Fear" and "Fright Night.")
Keep in mind, we're screening the winning movie at the Somerville Theatre on Feb. 10. Tickets will be available shortly. They're $8. It's a cheap pre-Valentine's Day night out with me -- and film critic Wesley Morris.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I met my boyfriend of a year when I had just gotten out of a serious relationship. He was two years younger than me and I was just looking for some fun so I didn't let the immaturity and flaws that come with his age faze me. Eventually, however, we fell in love and suddenly letting the immaturity and irresponsibility go wasn't so easy.
He is going through a tumultuous time trying to figure out who he is. (He is only 19) These ups and downs include depression, struggling to keep up in school, lashing out at family and in the workplace due to some pent up angst, and spending time with a group of friends who smoke a lot of weed.
However, when he is with me, he is everything I could ever want in someone. He is passionate, thoughtful, reflective, and loving. Most importantly, we have a blast together.
We attended the same college but he transferred to another school to go part time because he was struggling so much with the workload here. I am actually finding that I enjoy my space from him and it worries me.
I am graduating in May and hoping to get a job in the Boston area (where he is also from). He claims that this semester he will be taking time to really organize his life and get his act together. I trust if he grows out of his immaturity and irresponsibility and this "phase" he is in, that we have what we need to make it through anything.
Is it wrong for me to hold out hope that he really will change? I know that old adage about how waiting for someone to change is a waste of time. But part of me remembers being his age and feeling restless and making similar mistakes. I am patient and independent enough to wait it out without it effecting me too much (I think...) but it's a risk and I don't think I can handle the disappointment if my waiting doesn't pay off.
What do you think?
– Robbing the Cradle, Boston
A: Of course he's going to change, RTC. He's going to change like 17 more times in the next three years.
Fundamentally he'll be the same person, but you met him when he was 18. He was barely out of high school. He has so much growing to do. And really, so do you. The age gap between 18 and 20 probably felt huge, and it sort of is, but that doesn't mean that you're a finished person at 21. You're still figuring out what you want to be, how you want to live, and what life choices feel comfortable.
My question for you: What exactly are you waiting for? You mention being patient and waiting this phase out, but what happens when it's over? If he becomes a more stable guy, do you want to run off and get married? At 19 and 21? What's the goal here?
My advice is to become a selfish 21-year-old. Make decisions based on what feels good to you -- because you're supposed to be doing the self-exploration, not waiting on someone else.
If being with him feels right for now, you can stay together. But if you find that you continue to enjoy your space, then you have to be on your own. Because it's what you want. Focusing on your own needs is one of the best and most important parts of being 21. The right partner won't get in the way of that.
Readers? What is she waiting for? Should they stay together? Do you remember the age gap between 19 and 21? People sometimes meet in their teens and early 20s and stay together forever. Is there potential for that here? Discuss.
– Meredith
Am I living in a fantasy?
A quickie contest:
I'm doing a quick Q&A after Sunday's performance of the Huntington's "God of Carnage" with the beautiful and wise Miss Conduct.
If you want a pair of tickets, send me a paragraph (less than 300 words) about the most childish fight that you've ever had in an adult relationship -- and why you want passes to Sunday's matinee. Send your paragraph to meregoldstein at gmail dot com with CARNAGE in the subject line. Entries are due at 12:30 today. I'll pick winners and alert them by 6.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I reunited with my middle school buddy two years ago thanks to Facebook. We live in separate states, but despite the distance we kept in touch. Fast forward two years later, and, well, our relationship has blossomed into a beautiful friendship. We talk about being together, and usually express to each other how we feel. He never misses a birthday and holiday, and always says that he says he loves me.
Recently, I decided to finally visit him for the first time after 15 years. The meeting went great, it was perfect! I met all of his friends, met his parents and the entire family. At least for me, this trip helped me solidify my understanding of what I wanted from him. I am in LOVE!!
Fast forward a few days later and I am now back home and wondering what is going on ... We were having a conversation last night regarding how much his friends and family have been wondering about the status of our relationship. I was shocked, because I thought that we were officially together. So we discussed this, and well the guy is hesitant about us and doing the whole long-distance thing. However, he never falls short to tell me that HE loves me. He also says that he had the most amazing weekend, that he wants me close, and that he doesn't want to let me go.
What should I do? I am a strong believer that if you care for someone, the distance and circumstances don't really matter. But also, should I not pressure the long distance issue any longer and just be pen pals or leave this experience in the past?
– Am I Living in a Fantasy, West of Boston
A: Right now, this is a fantasy, AILIAF. Middle school friends who are soul mates are basically human unicorns.
Most of your communication with this guy has been online or on the phone. You had one great weekend, but that's not enough to start a committed long-distance relationship.
You have two options. You can either make it possible to see him more often and gradually decide whether it's worth maintaining a relationship, or you can leave this experience in the past. The pen pal thing is too distracting, and it allows you to pretend that he's more important than he is. The pen pal stuff is what led you to fantasy land.
If you choose the first option, see him soon. Very soon. Like within the next month. If he's not open to another quick visit -- and isn't open to visiting you -- move on. And please, keep reminding yourself that this guy isn't the center of your universe. He's just an old friend who cares about you. You saw him once and liked it. That's all you know right now. He's just a horse with unicorn potential. And there are many horses in the sea (you know what I mean).
Readers? What's going on here? How should she proceed? What does this guy want? Unicorns? Discuss.
– Meredith
I love him after two months
Q: Hey Meredith (and readers),
I've been dating a guy for a couple months. I'll call him John. John and I dated briefly last year for a month, all good times until he dropped a bomb on me that he didn't want to be in a relationship. Not where I thought things were headed, but he was nice and sweet about it and truly apologetic and strangely enough (on my end at least) we remained friends.
We've hung out here and there, and it was always enjoyable, but I thought all he wanted out of it was my friendship since he started dating someone a few months after we split. Fast forward to a couple of months ago. Over Thanksgiving, he told me he never lost his feelings for me and he wanted us to try again. Color me surprised; I didn't see this one coming from a mile away. I was hesitant at first, but he was so genuine and sweet about it, saying he wouldn't want to start something up if he thought it was going to end quickly or badly and he truly liked me and wanted to give it another chance.
I've dated my fair share of morons, so I'm slightly guarded with my emotions (can you really blame me?) but I gave in because honestly I don't think I ever lost my feelings for him either. The problem you ask? I think I love him but it's been two months. TWO MONTHS. I'm so absolutely terrified to tell him and rush things and I'm even more scared that it's going to slip out at such an awkward moment that it won't seem genuine. I've never said those three little words before (slight technicality) but it's the little things like him offering to take care of me when I got the stomach flu (which no one has ever done before), buying me a Christmas present when he was pretty much broke, and just all the little things that make me fall for him.
So now my slightly ridiculous question. Do I just go with my feelings, potentially scaring the crud out of him and possibly wrecking a good thing, or keep it in? See where things go and see if the feeling is still there in another couple of months? Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance everyone! Love you! (I'm just practicing, just in case, sorry.)
– I'm Afraid It'll Slip, Boston
A: If it slips, it slips, IAIS.
But if you can control it, say other things instead.
Those three words are important, but they're actually rather vague -- especially in your case, because you've probably grown to love him as a friend over time.
Whenever you want to declare your love, try defining that love instead.
"No one has ever brought me food while I've had a stomach bug. Thank you."
"It means so much to me that you bought me a Christmas gift. You are incredibly romantic."
"I love spending time with you -- and I'm so glad we're trying this again. I'm loving every minute of it."
If this relationship continues, you'll probably need to get simple and try the old "I love you." But if you start with specific statements about how you feel, he'll understand exactly what you mean when you finally say it. I'm all for being specific.
Readers? When should she say it? Am I right about being more specific? How does their previous friendship affect her feelings? Could she love him after two months? Show the LW some love.
– Meredith
What are we?
Q: I met this guy about a year ago. He was a new student at law school. We became friends, and soon our relationship became quite flirty and intimate, physically and emotionally. At the time, I wondered whether he was just fooling around because he had just broken up with his girlfriend.
A couple of months later, longer after their break up, we started hanging out more often, having pseudo-dates. We go out for food, go for long drives out of town, talk for hours, and have drinks. And whenever we go out, we act like a couple. We hold hands, hugs and kisses, get intimate, etc. He's been dropping hints, so I'm pretty sure he has feelings for me, too. Seems like a good love story, right? Problem is, we haven't really talked about us. And our "relationship" is not in the open -- although we don't really intend it to be a secret. (But it helps because his ex has been jealous of me since we became close friends and there are still issues about it, rumors going around and stuff.)
He is also hot and cold, and I wonder whether I am just a rebound girl or something. On the other hand, he's close to my friends and he knows my family and I've met his too -- but not in a mom-dad-I'd-like-you-to-meet-this-girl way, unfortunately.
I am really confused right now. I don't want to push the relationship or rush it, but it would really help to know where I stand or where we stand. I don't want to ask him outright because I might put him off. I'm scared to sound like I want to rush things. I am also shy and quite an introvert when it comes to talking about personal things and emotions. What sound I do? Should I just wait? Or should I keep my options open? Do you think he isn't really serious about this?
– Confused Wallflower, San Francisco
A: You have nothing to lose by asking, CW. I know that it's scary to rock the boat, but it's time. You can try, "Are we dating?" Or, "Think we'll ever be able to go public?" Or, "Are we at the point where we shouldn't be dating other people?" Or, "What the heck is this?" Ask with a smile on your face. It doesn't have to be a big sit-down talk or an accusation.
My guess is that he'll answer with a big "I don't know." And that's OK. Just take that opportunity to establish the rules together. Explain your needs (that he be less hot and cold, that you make this public, and that you both agree not to date other people) and see how he responds. Up until now, this almost-relationship has been all about him. It's time to change that -- and you can't worry about being a burden. He'll either respond well because he wants to make you happy and doesn't want to lose you, or he'll continue to prioritize his own needs, which should fuel you to move on.
Honesty can be scary, but self-confidence is very attractive. He should want to be with someone who knows what she wants and asks for it. He's going to be a lawyer. He's trained to have this conversation.
Readers? Should she be worried about asking for too much? Should she just take it day by day without having a big conversation? Do you think they're in a real relationship? What should she say to him? Advise.
– Meredith
Our problems might be dealbreakers
Q: Hi Meredith,
I have been dating a man for just about two years now. He's sensitive and funny, great with kids, and absolutely stunning socially. He treats me right, he runs his own company, we communicate well, laugh a lot, and value each other's opinion. His family is stellar and they love me back. I'd like to know, though, other than cheating and substance abuse, what are the biggest breakups of marriages? Because my man and I are obviously on that path, and I worry that our issues are big ones.
For one, he can't leave a city that I can't stand. I came to the city we're in now for work, years ago, and as soon as we met we knew we had something really special so I've stayed, but the city is depressing to me and I miss the green and gratitude of the West Coast. I also love traveling. He can't move because his family is here and everyone is very close. His company is also here, and he can't leave it for more than a few weeks at a time.
Also, because of his work, hobbies, and family, I don't get the type of attention I crave. I grew up as a lone wolf, whereas he sees friends he's known since he was 8 every week. I'm used to being the center of a man's world, and although I don't *need* it, I do need to know I'm his priority.
And finally, there are financial issues. I grew up relatively well-off, traveling at least once a year. His profession isn't very lucrative.
Right now we are on a collision course for family -- we both want children, we love each other, and we're in our late-20s to early-30s. But with location, attention, and financial stress, will adding kids just push us over the edge? It's kinda the perfect time, but is this really just the perfect set up for disaster??
– Worried about marriage, Philadelphia
A: I can't predict the future, WAM, but this does sound like trouble.
The money stuff is big. His wonderful circle of friends bothers me less (I think you'd come to appreciate the community, especially if you had kids with this guy). But the biggest issue is location. You don't want to live on the East Coast anymore. The East Coast makes you sad. Meanwhile, he plans to live here forever. Isn't that the answer to your question? Would it be enough to visit the West Coast twice a year?
I know you love him, but this isn't the life you want. He deserves to be with someone who appreciates his beautiful East Coast life. And you deserve the right scenery.
Sit down and talk to him about how you'd like to spend the next decade. Don't hold back about your hopes and dreams. Then let him tell you his plan. If there isn't a compromise, give each other a break and seek out the lives you really want. Let go because you love each other.
Readers? Any ideas for compromise? Is love enough to keep them together? Should she walk away from someone this great? Is that easier said than done? Discuss.
– Meredith
Bouncing between exes
Q: I have been on and off with my boyfriend for about two years. He is beyond wonderful at times -- but he can also act as if he's not happy with his life at all.
I broke up with him because of that. My life wasn't going anywhere and I was beginning to feel stuck. The same night we broke up, I ran into an old friend that I used to text a lot. We kissed that night and I forgot all about my ex. This guy is amazing -- he has a great education, great family, great everything, and is so into me. He is so passionate.
We dated for about 6 months until my ex came back into the picture. I saw him at a few parties and I started to miss him. So I start texting him, sending him pics, etc. Eventually, I broke up with the new boyfriend and got back with my ex. The newer guy was heartbroken (I mean devastated) but I suddenly had no interest in him. I was all about my ex.
I'm still with my ex now but have also been texting my old fling. I am in desperate need of help. I love my ex and am so comfortable around him, but I love the second guy, too.
How do I choose? I've hurt these guys way too many times. I keep going back and forth between the two of them and I always get caught and never feel bad about it. I don't know what do to. Please, please help.
– Can't Choose, MA
A: CC, you spent most of your letter referring to your current boyfriend as your ex and your real ex as an "old fling." And I'm pretty sure that's what these guys are at this point. One guy gives you constant attention, while the other serves as a distraction when you get bored. The reality is that you're done with both of them.
You're not afraid of losing either of them, which means that both relationships are over. Please let them go so that you can experience life without the safety net of two adoring ex-partners. Time alone will help you answer questions about what you want out of a relationship.
And about those texts ... please stop. I'm all for texting inside jokes to a significant other as a way to pop in to say hello during the day, but you're using texts to cheat and tease. Next time you're feeling antsy and bored and you want to use your phone to get attention, try a game. That's what Brick Breaker is for. See if you can beat my score (10,500). If you can't control yourself with the exes, block their numbers.
Readers? What's with her impulsive decisions? Why do these guys take her back? Any thoughts about the texts? Confused by how she labels these men?
– Meredith
I'm paranoid after dates
Q: Dear Meredith,
I am currently single and have been for about three years now. I am 28 years old. I dated and lived with a great girl previously for about a year, but it didn't work out.
Back to why I am writing you. I am totally lost and hopeless in the dating arena. I have so many issues. I think I am attractive, in good shape, have a good job, and am very honest. But sometimes I think maybe I am trying to go out with girls who are too "attractive," at least based on my definition (not everyone agrees). When I say, OK, let me try someone who maybe I am not attracted to but could be good for me, I am totally not into it and end up feeling I wasted my time and hers. So that's one issue. Am I attracted to girls who are out of my league?
The more important issue is that while I actually do pretty well with getting dates and meeting women, I drive myself absolutely CRAZY with (1) when to call, (2) when to text, (3) when to meet, and (4) freaking out that maybe she doesn't like me and on and on and on. I self-destruct. I could go on an awesome first date but then smother the girl, texting the next day what a great time I had, asking her to go out again right after, and trying to contact her too much. One girl said that she got a sense of paranoia from me and that I could be insecure. Others say that I am too forward sometimes. I am just trying to be honest when they ask personal questions. I feel like it is more anxiety than anything! Friends always tell me to play it cool, but I totally can't. I already met a cute girl and asked for her number, but I am afraid I will screw it up again. I know others have much bigger problems, but I feel like a lot of my issues are what single guys and girls are often feeling -- when to call, what to do, etc. It feels like everything is magnified at the beginning so when being too careful, I actually mess it up. I probably sound desperate!
Please help ... I just want to meet someone and settle down. I am 28 and not getting younger!
– Totally Lost in NYC
A: Your first problem doesn't bother me, TLINYC. You should be attracted to the people you date. And you seem to be finding plenty of women to pursue, which means that you're not being too exclusive.
As for your second problem, it's true, you do sound a bit anxious and intense. You want to go from 0 to 100 with women after one date. That's not good for anybody. You can certainly call or send a text to thank someone for a nice night out, and you're allowed to be nervous when you hit the send button on your phone, but not every date is going to turn into a relationship. And if you don't see a woman right after a first date, it doesn't mean that she's going to disappear.
You mentioned that you come off as too "honest" on dates. I have to wonder whether that really means "self-absorbed." Yes, these women are asking personal questions, but there's no need for ridiculously long answers on a first date. And I would hope that you're asking these women just as many questions about themselves.
You seem like you might be obsessed with your own needs. What about theirs? Are you listening?
It's also important that you surround yourself with single friends. Couples are fine too, but this whole "I'm already 28!" thing means that you've lost perspective of what it means to be your age. Hanging out with peers will remind you that there's no need to rush any of this.
I want you to be so busy with friends that you only have one or two nights a week to date. Plans with friends will stop you from trying to see a woman 14 times in a row. They'll also keep you from feeling lost. That's important, especially in New York City.
Readers? How can he deal with dating anxiety? Am I right about the self-absorbed thing? How do you get out of a three-year lull? Discuss.
– Meredith
Importing a bride?
Remember: Be constructive. Have empathy. Even when you want to yell at the letter writer. Even when you want to yell at each other. I know it can be difficult, but the point is to help.
(And today is a tough one to deal with.)
Q: Meredith,
I am a divorced man in my early 30s. I met my wife when I was a young working professional right out of college. She was right out of high school at the time. We fell hard and fast for each other, but over time it was evident we had little in common, plus her family and friends didn't really like me. In total I was with my ex-wife for over 8 years.
Today I find it increasingly difficult to meet anyone, let alone date, find someone attractive, someone who wants the same things and not play games. Instead, I've been doing a ton of research on finding a wife from a 3rd world country. Old school matchmaking as they call it.
I understand it is not love. These foreign brides come from almost nothing, most are just trying to help pay off family debt. Sometimes these girls are simply forced into it ... as in human trafficking.
There are many cases where 3rd world brides are abused, murdered, and subject to deplorable conditions in their adopted homes. Many run away just to end up as prostitutes because of the language/cultural barrier.
I'm a big believer in helping the less fortunate. My intentions are to find a suitable wife, not to take advantage of someone in a desperate situation. Most relationships are based on love, but love alone can't sustain it. We often act out of blind love, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. Instead, I'm looking for a relationship based on mutual respect and appreciation first.
I believe there are merits to this "arrangement." It is a different type of marriage/relationship but one that could last even longer. There are so many divorces today. Clearly the love was right at THAT moment (whenever it was), but wrong at THIS moment. I need a relationship that can sustain itself with or without love. I'm not a frog, have a successful career, only 30, tall, no physical handicaps. I'm perfectly capable of finding my match here. But nowadays nothing is for certain.
There are many types of "arrangements" today: one-night stands, hook ups, booty calls, friends with benefits, open relationships, etc. This one is just more old school, using matchmakers.
What do you think about going on a marriage tour?
– Third World Bride, Boston
A: Nope. Sorry.
You want to do your part to stop human trafficking and help the less fortunate? Volunteer for an organization. Donate money. Take on the cause.
You can't compare this kind of bride shopping to a matchmaker service. If you want a real "marriage tour," hire a local matchmaker, someone who will set you up with a peer who's looking for a similar life.
And speaking of the word peer ….
You had an unsuccessful marriage with someone you met when she was right out of high school. Yes, you were almost just as young at the time, but you were a working professional and she was just a kid. And now you're looking for someone who's helpless and dependent. An employee. What does that say about you?
Many relationships do end, but there are just as many successful unions out there, and countless women who are looking for an honest, stable partnership. There are no guarantees in life -- even arranged marriages can fail -- but it's worth searching for someone who does actually love you. Love isn't everything, but ... it's almost everything.
My advice is to make more friends. You need to be around peers who can give you a reality check. Make sure that some of those pals are female. And please, go find a therapist and talk about your concerns.
No marriage tours. No Googling mail-order brides. You're in your early 30s. There's no rush here. Concentrate on friendship and working on yourself. If you eventually want to hire a real matchmaker (and your therapist thinks you're ready), go for it. Just pick a service that matches you with someone who has the means to walk away if it's just not right.
Readers? What should he do? Thoughts about his plan? What's going on here? Help.
– Meredith
He says he's finally ready
Q: Hi,
I am in my early 30s and was, until a year ago, in a tumultuous 5-year relationship. Although we loved each other very much and got along well, my ex couldn't make up his mind about whether he wanted to spend the rest of his life with me, whereas I was ready for a real commitment on his part after being together for 3 years. To be fair, he was in an unstable financial and career situation the whole time and felt he had nothing to offer. He had already tried to end the relationship a few times because even though I didn't make any demands on him, it was obvious I wanted something that he couldn't provide. He was just not mentally ready. But each time, our feelings pulled us back together.
We finally broke up last year when he decided it was unfair to keep me waiting until he made up his mind.
It took me a while to get over him, but two months ago I met a wonderful guy and we have developed strong feelings for each other. But after I announced to my ex that I had met someone, he called me back to tell me he loved me and was now sure he wanted to marry me and that he's ready to spend the rest of his life with me. It's been a few weeks and he is much more communicative (he couldn't say the words "I love you" before), loving and caring.
So here I am, not sure if I should give my ex another chance or try and figure out where this new relationship is headed. Both options feel risky. My ex hasn't made me happy in the past due to his emotional unavailability, but I have some doubts about my new boyfriend's ability to make me happy too. He had trouble getting over an ex until recently, he hasn't gone to grad school yet, which is usually a big strain on relationships and delays family and kids (and frankly, I don't want to experience grad school a second time), he has a busy life (friends, hobbies), and I feel as though I can be just another activity to schedule...
Meredith, I need your help. I need to either tell my new bf I cannot pursue this relationship or tell my ex I will not marry him. How do I figure out if it's worth pursuing this new relationship or if I can trust my ex and give him another chance?
– Which One?, Boston
A: This is a tough one, WO, but based on what you've told us in your letter, you should probably drop the new guy. You want marriage and kids and he's thinking about grad school. And the whole "just another activity to schedule" thing doesn't make me feel good about what he has to offer.
I can't tell you whether your ex is for real this time, but you seem to want to know. You're talking to him (more than once, right?) and letting him tell you that he loves you. It sounds like you're already negotiating with him. I've got a big problem with the fact that he only changed his ways after you met someone else, but ... I can't say for sure that he's not capable of being what you want.
You could wind up losing both guys. The situation is certainly risky. But you spent a good three paragraph discussing your angst about the ex, and one paragraph listing your new guy's faults.
If you need to find out if your ex is for real, go do it. Get to know him all over again and listen to what he has to say.
Again, there are no guarantees, but that's life.
Readers? Which one? Is the ex for real? Is there more to the new guy? What should she do? Discuss.
– Meredith
I have a type
Q: Hi Meredith,
I am a successful, attractive, African-American female in my mid-20s who APPEARS to have everything going for me. I emphasize "appears" because people who know me believe I'm a young, vibrant, well-educated woman who has many opportunities awaiting her (and they are right). They think I don't stay up at night worried about anything.
And here is where they're wrong.
I have trouble dating and meeting men for a variety of reasons, but there are two that stick out most:
1. I have only been attracted to tall, attractive, white men. I'm talking about Tom Brady/Josh Duhamel/Paul Walker types. No one else. I have very good friends of all different cultural and racial backgrounds and I love them dearly, but as far as attraction goes, I'm only drawn to white males. I don't tell many people this because I'm afraid I'd be judged and looked down upon. But I only get that electric feeling with white men. [P.S. I'm working on breaking away from the pretty boy types I listed above because history has proven that the pretty ones are usually the dudes that break hearts.]
2. I'm still trying to get over a man I dated back in 2009 and 2010. I feel like he was the one that got away. I know it's been a while but it's like I can't completely get over him ... I just don't find that "spark" that I had with him with anyone else. He was so many things to me: smart, wicked attractive, educated, driven, funny, well-rounded, and his personality clicked well with mine. But he lived far away and it wasn't going to work. So I had to let him go. The icing on the cake is that I found out recently that this guy got married. Cue the water works. I was pretty hurt by it but he's been gone for so long, so it is what it is. The real downside is that I find myself only being attracted to men that resemble his physical features. Dark hair, brown eyes, tanned, beautiful.
The dating pool shrinks even more.
Anyway, I don't know what else to do. Men that meet me say they're surprised I'm single (probably because I love sports, action movies, and don't pay much attention to pop culture). I moved to Boston a year ago, so I don't have many friends that can play my wingman at bars or outings to meet guys. Going solo, I've tried extracurricular activities, going out, visiting bars...but I have this sinking feeling that I'm never going to meet someone that I'm wholeheartedly attracted to. I.JUST.FEEL.ALONE. Any advice?
– Living in a Black and White World, Massachusetts
A: We all have a type, LIABAWW. And when we're asked to imagine our perfect mate (or sexual partner), many of us picture Tom Brady. Or if you're me, this guy.
There are certainly some big issues at play here -- race is just one of them -- but I actually think that your problem has more to do with age, a breakup, and a recent move. You had a long-term boyfriend for some of your early 20s and then made some big life changes. You're still creating your world in Boston. It's an exhausting process.
My obvious advice is to join clubs, hang out with people after work, and say yes to every social opportunity. My less obvious advice is to stop using words like "only" and "don't" and "never." Don't be rigid. Whenever we have a terrible breakup we say things like, "I'll never fall for anyone who isn't just like him/her!" In reality, you don't know who you're going to fall for. And you don't know how your type will change as your peers get older (not every pretty boy gets to keep his hair and Tom Brady physique). Just get to know people and see how it feels. When you turn 29, you might see a serious change in what grabs your attention.
And as far as feeling like you're never going to meet anyone, well ... everyone has that fear. You're only in your mid-20s. You've got so much time. You will be hot for someone again. They'll be hot for you. It's inevitable.
Readers? Am I right to say that she’s making too many assumptions about what she likes? Has your type ever changed? Are the race politics important here or is she jumping to conclusions about her priorities based on her ex? Help.
– Meredith
He'll be gone in two months
A short letter for the holiday ...
Q: Dear Meredith,
I have been dating this guy for about three months. Things appeared to be going great until a few weeks ago when he dropped an atomic bomb. He is moving to CA either March or April 1st. He still wants to see me up until he moves, and I want to see him. Problem is, I am really falling for him and am already upset. Not sure if I should just end it now and be heartbroken or enjoy our last couple of months until he moves away and risk a bigger heartbreak!
I thought about the possibility of a long-distance relationship however my last one ended badly and that was only one state away.
I am devastated! HELP!
– Not Sure What to Do, Wakefield
A: I'd keep dating him, NSWTD. We're allowed to enjoy relationships even if we know they're not going to last forever. Also, the extra months give you time to figure out what you'll be missing. Maybe you'll decide mid-February that he's not as great as you thought he was in December. That would make it easier to move on -- and to prevent you from romanticizing all of the what-ifs after he moves. Of course, you also might wind up liking him more over the next few months, but that will also be a good lesson. Yes, there will be heartbreak, but you could have your heart broken by someone who lives down the street.
You've got to figure it out, so go for it. Just pay attention. Focus on who he is, not his impending departure. And enjoy yourself because you just never know. If things are still this great on April 1, you both might want to reevaluate.
Readers? Is it worth seeing someone if you know the relationship has an end date? What should the letter writer be doing with this time? Discuss.
– Meredith
I don't want to break up
A reminder: Please give the letter writer some real advice and empathy in the comments section. I don't mind off-topic conversation (especially in the discussion boards where it belongs) but I don't want the letter writer to get lost in the comments shuffle. - M
Q: Meredith,
After two years together, my boyfriend and I recently broke up. (I'm in my early-to-mid 20s.) I am having a hard time coping with the loss of a person I envisioned spending the rest of my life with. Our relationship began with love at first sight but took us two years to get up the nerve to ask each other out. We lived together for a year but because of a program for his job, he had to move back home with his parents (about 45 minutes away). He and I tried very hard to make time for each other but were both frustrated because so many other things kept coming up that limited our visits. This is the most serious relationship either of us has ever had.
The fight that led to our breakup happened a week before we graduated from our academic programs. He said that we are headed in different directions because he knows I want marriage and kids but he doesn't want those things right now (I am not ready to be a parent for at least another 3-4 years and am fine putting off marriage as long as I know he wants to be with me), but he doesn't seem to hear what I am saying. He said that he would rather break up now than later and brought up other what-ifs for the future, like where I will get a job next year. I did not want to fight about what-ifs and still don't, but once he made his decision he said that if we gave it a second chance until May that we would be "living a lie." He still says that he's in love with me but his continually telling me that this is for my own good is frustrating. I know that we obviously need space right now but I would like us to revisit these issues once the job situation is settled here in a few months.
I don't know how to get around this. We still hang out, but because I am so deeply hurt by this, our conversations eventually end up with me asking for reiteration of his reasons (because I don't understand how the what-ifs years down the road can lead to the breakup of a fantastic, loving two-year relationship), and me telling him how hurt and confused I am. I have also been dealing with feelings of being worthless because I feel as though he feels our relationship is not worth working on and I am deeply hurt by what I perceive as his refusal to fight for me or our relationship.
I don't know what to do, so any advice would be helpful.
– Lost and Confused, CO.
A: You're not worthless. You're just single. And that's OK. He doesn't want what you want, but that doesn't mean that you're suddenly flawed. It just means that you're sad about the end of a relationship. Be sad. But don't let this breakup define you.
My first piece of advice is to stop hanging out with him. Cut him off. He broke up with you, which means he's no longer entitled to your time. You need to be moving on and these visits are painful. You both need to process this on your own.
My second piece of advice is to listen to what he's telling you. He's saying that if you don't break up now, you will break up later. You want to get married in four years, and he wants ... well, he isn't saying anything definitive about what he wants four years from now, probably because he doesn't know.
You can't negotiate yourself out of a breakup. (Trust me, I've tried.) We've talked about the stages of grief in Love Letters, and you're stuck on bargaining. Bargaining is exhausting.
Give yourself time to mourn and to fantasize about what else is out there. Imagine how it will feel when someone is smitten with you for the first time, because that will happen. Tell the ex that you're miserable to lose him and then then walk away. If he changes his mind, he knows where to find you.
Readers? Can you help her feel less worthless? Can you explain the stages of grief in breakups? Is he telling her everything she needs to know Help.
– Meredith
He has daddy issues
Q: Dear Meredith,
I have been with my boyfriend on and off for almost five years. There are ways that we are so much in tune with each other -- intellectually, politically, and physically -- but the connection that I think is most important, our emotional connection, remains elusive. From what he's told me, his dad was emotionally abusive and his mother, who wasn't emotionally expressive herself, just went along with things. Often, when we have problems, he'll say it reminds him of something with his dad. I feel like our relationship has three people in it.
He is seeing a therapist but things don't seem to be changing. We've split up several times because we cannot communicate. When I try to bring up a problem to discuss and try to work through it, he immediately goes on the defensive because he says it seems like an attack to him no matter how calmly and gently I speak. I know his father resented him and showed it clearly in almost all their interactions, but I'm not his dad and we are both middle-aged. Could this ever change?
– Three's Not Company, NJ
A: The quick answer to your last question is that yes, sometimes people can change the way they cope with old problems, especially with the help of a professional ... but your guy might not change into the right partner for you, TNC.
You can go to therapy with him and discuss all of this, but before you tag along, please think about what you're trying to save. On your best days, is this relationship what you want? When there's nothing wrong, do you feel emotional intimacy? Are you ever the center of attention? Is the relationship fun?
You've been together (sort of) for five years so there's a lot on the line, but this relationship sounds so limited. You have to be careful about what you say. You told us that your emotional connection remains elusive. That's huge.
You can't have a relationship with a work-in-progress. If that's what he is to you, move on. And if you're really not sure, go to therapy with him and all will be revealed.
Readers? Is there something worth saving here? Can someone move on from family issues this late in the game? Should she drop him now. Try therapy? Help.
– Meredith
He gave up on me
Q: Hi Meredith,
I broke up with my boyfriend last summer. We had been together for a year and a half and had lived together for a few months. I was going through a very difficult time while we lived together. (I lost my business, my money, a family member, etc.) I could barely afford to take the T to my part-time job. He might say otherwise, but what happened is that he gave up on me, checked out of us, and started hanging out with another woman behind my back. There were dates, texts of adoration, the whole deal. I moved out, found a place, found a job, and started to feel good again. My summer was full of introspection and tears, but I got to a point where I was done putting energy into being angry with him.
We met up to talk and we hashed it out. We met up a few more times and we became less of two people who used to date, and more like two people who were friendly and actually enjoyed a laugh. Fast forward to now. We've been talking, texting, and have seen each other a number of times, and yes, I never thought I'd do it, but we became physical.
I thought I could do the casual thing, but he gets drunk and texts/calls and says things like "I'm so in love with you," "I miss you," "I had a hard day and want to hear your voice," and I just can't hear that as someone whose heart was broken by him, you know? So, I finally gathered the strength to say, I can't do this. We're not together, nor are we moving toward that. We're exes and I need distance in order to really move on and be open to a new guy who won't give up on me.
I really enjoyed being friendly with him and I do care about him as a person, but it was just too hard. I think it was right, but I miss him. I miss hearing from him and I'm doing this thing in my head where I don't think I'll ever meet anyone else. Oh, one other important piece of information: he was my first real boyfriend (I'm in my late 20s). I had had other "situations" in the past, but never called anyone my boyfriend, nor was I considered anyone's girlfriend. Is that why I'm having such a hard time?
I also think that this all happened because it gave me back the control. It's essentially what I should've done in the spring when he started checking out of our relationship, but at the time, I was so stressed out and in the dumps that losing something else was too much for me to consider. I did the right thing, right?
– So Confused, Boston
A: It's completely understandable that you cut him off as a "friend" -- at least temporarily -- because you don't want him to distract you from finding a real partner. It was a smart move even though you're missing him.
He was your first big relationship and you postponed the mourning process. Also, your good months with him represent simpler times. You're letting go of all of it.
This is also difficult because despite the fact that he was an idiot, he probably does love you. You were dealing with issues that people tend to tackle in their 30s and 40s, and he responded to it all like someone in his early 20s. On some level, you know that he probably does mean all of these texts, despite his inability to carry them out like a grownup. His legitimate feelings make this all the more complicated. (I have to point out, of course, that all of his texts are about his needs. I'd have a tougher time giving you advice if he sent a text that said, "I want to be there for you when you've had a hard day.)
I know you feel lost right now, but you've put your life back together like a pro. You're coping with the aftermath of a difficult year. You're doing what you need to do to see the world clearly. This phase hurts, but it's all part of the process. Compare these feelings to how your body responds after a tough day at the gym. You're sore all over, but that just means you're on your way to being in very good shape.
Readers? Why is she so sad about losing him the second time? What about these texts? Did he give up on her? Should she keep him in her life? What about her fear of never meeting someone new? Discuss.
– Meredith
Does he drink too much?
Q: Hey Meredith,
I love my boyfriend but I don't know if we are compatible. We're in our mid-late 20s, each other's first serious relationship, and he means so much to me and takes such good care of me. He's sweet and cuddly and funny. We've been together a year and a half, part of which we were long distance. However, I can't figure out if there are real problems or if I have found someone awesome who loves me like crazy who I need to accept as is.
Specifically, I am not sure about his drinking. I don't think I drink much -- maybe a glass of wine at dinner on a weekend or a beer or two at a party tops. He's a big sports-watching, likes-to-have-a-drink-or-two-to-relax at night kind of guy. At a social event he'll drink a lot -- I've seen him binge drink in a social setting two or three times. Also, I recently saw a half empty bottle of vodka in his cabinet and it freaked me out because I think that's a lot to drink. I don't think he's had it for more than two to three weeks and he's the only one who could have consumed it. Based on his family history and things he's told me about himself and his past, I think he has addictive tendencies, though I don't think he's an alcoholic now.
I know that I have addictive tendencies myself, and I have family members with alcoholism. I am careful never to have more than a glass once in a while because I know my limits and I'm not going to tempt fate. I've also talked to professionals about these issues. I do not want an alcoholic in my life, or as my partner. My boyfriend and I have talked about my concerns and he reassures me that he is in control of his drinking. I believe him and I'm sure he could let it go if he needed to, but he doesn't. I have doubts, but I don't think it's my place and I don't want to nag him to stop drinking either.
There's added pressure to figure this out because we're both about to finish grad school and we'll need to figure out where we're going next career-wise and location-wise. We're at a point in our relationship where he wants to think about maybe moving in together and to think about marriage. I feel like it's rushed and that I still need to take care of my career and explore and live in new places. (I've told him as much.) We're on separate pages.
Are these drinking behaviors a "guy" thing? Am I being oversensitive about his drinking? Does it matter? Will it matter in the future? Are we just not compatible?
– Lost in Lynn
A: I can't tell you whether he has an alcohol problem, LIL. What I can tell you is that his habits make you uncomfortable, and beyond that, you're not even sure if you want a serious commitment with him right now. You don't feel safe in this relationship and you'd rather prioritize yourself anyway.
So do this: Tell him where you stand. Instead of asking him whether he's in control of his drinking, be specific about what you can live with. Are you comfortable keeping alcohol in the house? What are your rules for the future? Will you want a partner who only drinks on weekends?
Also tell him how the next few years of your life look in your mind. Do you plan to move around? Will you be working 70 hours a week at a new job? Find out whether your vision looks anything like his. The more specific you are about what you want, the easier it will be to figure out whether he should join you.
The bottom line is that alcohol, in relationships, is as important as money or sex. It can be a catalyst for big problems so you have to make sure you share a philosophy about it as a couple.
I also recommend continuing your therapy. You have alcoholism in your family and seem to be confused about your own boundaries. It's always best to talk to a professional about that stuff. It's a conversation you should continue as you get older.
Readers? Is this a relationship worth saving? What about the good stuff? How do you know whether someone has crossed a line with alcohol? Could his habits be related to age and school? Should she see how this feels after graduation? Help.
– Meredith
Is she my destiny?
Q: Meredith,
I just recently separated from my wife of 15 years. Totally my fault. I was not totally happy in my marriage so I had an affair. Not the right thing to do, but can't change the past. I know that it will be a tough road ahead, but I made my bed and now I am lying in it.
Here is my dilemma. My high school sweetheart, who was also married, is also in the process of a divorce. We have started chatting again -- nothing serious -- but talking/texting/emailing. I told her that I did still have feelings for her after all these years. It was a great relationship, but it ended quickly when I went off to college. She agreed that there was unfinished business, but she did not want to be the reason that I got divorced.
Since I moved out, I have asked her out a few times but something always comes up. I am thinking I may be too sensitive? Maybe she does not want to go out, maybe she does -- but why does she not have the same time table I do? Am I crazy for being so sensitive? Every time I decide that I am not going to contact her, she calls or text me!
When we dated in high school she had seen a movie, Mr. Destiny. The theme of the movie is: "Would you give up everything you have ever had for everything you ever wanted?" At the time I said no, because she was what I had, but now is she everything I ever wanted?
Help?
– Mr. Destiny, Central Mass.
A: MD, one of my first rules about dating and marriage is: Do not compare your relationships to movies that feature Jim Belushi. Not even "About Last Night." Although I do love that one.
In real life, you're separated from your wife of many years and have no idea what you need. Instead of deciding that this high school sweetheart is the answer to your problems, get to know yourself. Think about what you've done and what's to come. Consider that you might need time to process all that's happened. You can't give up what you have for this ex like you're in a movie. No one is giving you that option -- especially not her. Please take some time off from pursuing a relationship and get into therapy.
And know this: In the real world, we all have unfinished business with exes and crushes. Life just isn't long enough to finish our business with everyone. What-ifs are normal.
The warm feelings you're having for her right now? They're fueled by nostalgia. That's why you're quoting '90s movies. Take some space, get back to the present, and deal with your loss. It's too soon to ask anyone to be on your time table -- because you don't have one yet.
Readers? Can you help Mr. Destiny? What's happening with the ex? Help.
– Meredith
I need to tell her how I feel
New Year's Updates tomorrow.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I'm not usually one to write into a blog, though I've been a semi-frequent reader of yours over the years. I'm writing today because there is this great woman, "Kay," I've known since my first day of college. She is drop-dead gorgeous and also has the sort of sparkling personality that catches your attention pretty quickly. Throughout many years of school (we were in a medical program) we became very close friends but never seemed to be single at the same time. One night, when we were briefly single, she even broached the subject of friends with benefits, but I said I didn't like the idea because I don't think I could do FWB without developing feelings for the person eventually (the discussion was in the abstract but it was clear to me where it would have gone).
We graduated and now live a plane trip away from each other. We have stayed in contact and I finally made a trip to visit her a few weeks ago. We had a grand time just talking about life and our hopes and dreams and how we both feel adrift at this point in our life even though we both have the satisfying jobs we want. We are both happy but want something more. We are both truly single, simultaneously, for the first time since we have met and over the course of my trip I started thinking that she may also have feelings for me too. She even suggested that we would share a bed, adding that "nothing sexual would happen." I declined, thinking I wouldn't be able to hold back from trying something, though in hindsight I'm wondering if she was doing it to just try and get me into bed with her without scaring me off. (Side question: How many people sleep with a person they are attracted to without any sexual thoughts going through their head?)
Luckily, it appears that she'll be coming to New England in a few months. I am dying to tell her how I feel. I almost told her several times when I went to visit her but fear of losing her as a friend kept me from doing it.
After reflecting on it for a while, I don't know if I can keep her as a friend knowing how strong my feelings are and how much stronger they became when I went to visit her. Every person I've talked to says I should just tell her. She's even met my parents and they are completely baffled as to why I haven't pursed her openly yet. So my problem is this: Why am I more petrified than a mosquito in amber? The bigger question is that I have no idea how to start the conversation with her. What do I say to start? I feel like if I could just get the first few lines out the right way everything will work out.
– Can't Just Do It, New England
A: Do it, CJDI. Tell her. Say, "Kay, when I was visiting you, I turned down sleeping in your bed because I have feelings for you and didn't want to tempt myself. I know we're living far away from each other, but I'd like to lean in and kiss you and then see if we can turn this into something awesome."
If I were you, I'd tell her before she gets here -- by phone -- so that she can ponder it all before she's standing right in front of you. Maybe she'll let you down easy before she gets here. Or maybe she'll spend the next few months picking out an awesome pair of pajamas for the trip.
I know it would be more romantic to tell her in person, but you guys have a habit of not being single at the right time. She could get a boyfriend within the next two months. Don't miss your window.
And for the record, the bed sharing thing is suspect (in a good way). It sounds like she had a perfectly nice couch. So yeah, it's very possible that she wanted to see if you were willing to sleep by her side. It's possible she wanted to give you an in for that first kiss.
Put it out there and then tell us what happened. You have every reason to be hopeful and nothing but bottled-up feelings to lose.
Readers? Should he tell her now that she lives far away? Should he tell her in person or before she gets here? How should he say it? Script him and help.
– Meredith
Am I incapable of commitment?
Hey there. We're going to take a vacation from chat today for the holidays. If you have questions, write them up as a letter, please.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I've been dating a very kind, sensitive and thoughtful man, "James," for nearly 8 months now. We have fun when we're together, he treats me better than any man I have ever been with, and at 23 it’s the longest "relationship" this Miss Independent has ever been in.
The problem is, despite all of the wonderful qualities this man has, I can't seem to fully commit to him. Originally I was telling myself it was a matter of distance -- he lives 2 hours away (by car) -- though he travels to see me whenever he can (2 to 3 times a month) and we talk every day. From the time we started dating, I continued to see other people here in Boston, thinking that James and I were just going to keep it casual considering the distance. About 5 months after we met, James invited me to a big event with him and shortly thereafter mentioned wanting to organize a weekend getaway so that I could meet his parents. I responded noncommittally and about a week later broke things off with James over the phone. Always a bit of a self-proclaimed commitment-phobe, I reasoned with myself that it was for the best considering I wanted to keep my options open with him living hours away, and would probably end up hurting him more if we continued seeing each other.
After a few weeks of not speaking, I found myself out and about on dates with different men, but continuing to think about James and missing him a lot. He got in touch this fall to mention that he was coming to Boston and I went out to meet him at the bar as a "friendly" gesture. This of course led to more and we have resumed seeing each other since then, at a similar rate of 2-3 times a month.
We haven't had the talk again yet, but I know that James would like to be exclusive. It seems like I've gone through every excuse in the book to keep things casual. Though the distance is unfortunate, we've been making it work with regular visits, and so I don't think that that’s actually the problem. Then I thought that I may just like getting the attention from this very caring man -- but I don't have much trouble attracting male attention and dates outside of my relationship with James. Finally, I considered the option that I'm just not that into James, but after 8 months of dating and not being able to keep away from him, I don't think that’s the issue either. So what’s my problem? Is it because I've never been in a serious relationship? Is there an actual thing as a completely commitment-phobic woman?
– Still "Single" in Somerville
A: You're 23 and want to explore your options, SSIS. James sounds like a serious guy -- maybe someone who could wind up marrying the person he starts dating now. I'm not sure you're on the same path.
My advice is to explain to James that while you're with him right now, you're not sure about later. It's just not in your personality to think big at 23. After having that talk, test the waters by bringing him out with friends, family -- whatever you can do to make these visits seem more like a relationship. I mean, who wouldn't want a nice boyfriend who shows up to give you attention and then disappears before he gets in the way? You need to bring James into your real world as much as possible to find out whether you wind up feeling more attached to him ... or less. Getting closer will help you get to an answer.
You are not monumentally commitment-phobic, but you could use a push. This distance with James has allowed you to stay in a comfortable relationship waiting room. See how it feels to get just a little bit closer, and keep him informed about where you are in your head.
Readers. Is she in a relationship waiting room? How can she figure out how she feels about James? How do you think she feels about James? Discuss.
– Meredith
I miss her during the holidays
We'll have regular letters through Thursday and then New Year's updates on Friday.
If you missed yesterday's spam, it's here. And if you missed Friday's updates, they're here.
Q: Hi Meredith,
You've probably heard this story before, someone having trouble getting over an ex especially around the holidays. My ex and I dated for a year and things were OK but we would have the same argument every month. I thought she had anxiety issues and suggested counseling, which she's done before, but she thought I just didn't want to deal with her emotions (which was also sometimes true).
We dated for a year and then stayed friends for a long time after that. For the first couple of months we were friends with benefits, but I stopped that because I was afraid I was leading her on. Just before our last FWB encounter she told me she "would always love me as a friend" and that's why I shouldn't feel guilty. I took that very seriously since I don't make friends easily and we were really close. I considered her my best friend even after we stopped having sex. But I always knew she wanted to get back together.
Fast forward to about three months ago. I knew she was dating but she finally got serious with another guy. I, being an idiot who has trouble reading my own emotions, didn't deal well with it and told her I thought I still had feelings for her. She told me that we needed time apart to help me get over her. I've been in this situation before and "some time apart" turns into "I'll never speak to you again." And this was a week after I helped her move.
Since then I've seen pictures of her and her new bf -- her taking him to meet her family and going on vacations with him (I consider that pretty quick, but my opinion doesn't matter). I defriended her and all of her friends on FB because I can't handle seeing updates with her and her BF without getting incredibly hurt. I've sent her an email for Christmas just wishing her the best but I doubt she'll respond.
I understand through therapy and friends that I can't control her actions and that she's an ex, etc.. I've also been told that since she won't talk back to me that's a sign she still feels something too, but I'm trying not to read into her emotions. But I've always felt that because we were friends and especially because she said she would always love me as a friend that I'm particularly hurt (even though I know people say things they mean at the time but won't follow through with). I've been dating someone else and I'm not even sure I'd want to date my ex again. There's just this huge amount of hurt that I haven't been able to get rid of. And the uncertainty of knowing if we'll ever even talk to each other again makes it hard for me to move on properly.
Am I being unreasonable? Do I just need more time? And is there anything I can do to help this situation?
– Home Alone, Cambridge
A: She cut you off because you're both dating other people and trying to move on, HA. I mean, how else could this possibly work? Do you think that you could have an easygoing friendship with her right now? Do you think that her boyfriend would embrace you as a platonic pal? Do you think you could keep your mind straight about what she represents?
Your ex wants to make sure that if you ever speak again, it's truly platonic. You need this space. Be thankful that she's giving it to you. And for the record, she has every right to focus on her new relationship. You should focus on whether you want to be in yours.
"Some time apart" doesn't always mean "I'll never speak to you again." This isn't "taking a break" in a romantic relationship -- you guys are already broken up. In your case, time apart means time for perspective. It's about giving each other the chance to mourn the end of a relationship, something you never got the chance to do.
You're right -- the holidays are particularly rough, but you just have to get through the week and try to stay close to your friends. And if you feel sad, that's OK. You had a bad breakup. It's just taken you a long time to admit it. Even if you're the breaker upper, you're supposed to be miserable. You're supposed to miss her friendship and want to text her little inside jokes. That's how it goes. But the truth about why you broke up is still relevant. Remind yourself of that, and assure yourself that she will speak to you when it feels less urgent. Of course, by then you might not care so much.
Readers? Tips for a guy whose heart hurts during the holidays? What happened here? Be nice. It's the most wonderful time of the year, after all. Help.
– Meredith
Avoiding the friend zone
Updates coming tomorrow ...
Q: Meredith,
I'm hoping you and your readers can help me out. I was introduced to this girl, let's call her Emily, several months ago through one of my good friends, but not in an effort to set us up. What I've come to realize is that I like this girl. There is of course a complication -- I've suspected that she was dating someone else, "Jim."
Emily met Jim when they were freshman in college and they dated a while. Jim went abroad, and while he was gone, he and Emily broke up because she met someone else. She and that guy ended their relationship earlier this year. Everyone is now graduated and Emily and Jim have been spending a decent amount of time together. According to my friend, they started officially dating again two days ago.
The friend who introduced us has suggested that I tell Emily how I feel anyway. So now I need to decide whether I say anything to Emily about how I feel and let her know that there is someone other than Jim out there -- or say nothing.
Worth mentioning is that Jim is a jerk to people quite often, especially to Emily, and other people beside me notice this as well.
Part of me wants to tell her now because I have a habit of becoming friends with girls I like and getting stuck in the friend zone and I don't want this to happen with Emily. But another part of me says sit back and see what happens. I'm just tired of being too cautious around people and missing out on something good, but don't want to screw up by doing something stupid. Please help.
– Looking for Some Guidance, Western Mass.
A: This would be a complicated mess if Jim was your close friend, LFSG. But he isn't, right? He's just the friend of a friend, and no one seems to like him very much. You don't have to worry about losing him, which makes this rather easy.
Tell her. Be brave. Explain that you've developed a crush on her and that you were bummed to hear that she's dating her college boyfriend. Then give her space. I have no idea how she'll respond, but at the end of the day you're doing this for you. You're letting the world know that you don't want to "sit back and see what happens."
For the record, I don't advocate hitting on other people's girlfriends, but this is more about staying honest. You're just letting everyone know how you feel.
The only risk here is that you might lose Emily. If she doesn't reciprocate and wants her life to be simple, she might keep her distance from you after your disclosure. But that's OK. She's not your close friend. You know what zone you're shooting for.
Readers? Is it OK for him to tell Emily how he feels? What is his friend's role in this? Thoughts about Emily and Jim? How can he stay out of the friend zone? Help.
– Meredith
Why hasn't he pursued this?
Q: Hey Meredith,
I have something that's been on my mind for a little while and need your advice on how to deal with it.
I used to work with this guy, "Dave." When we worked together we got along great and I ended up having pretty strong feelings for him toward the end of my stay there. I never knew if he felt the same way but there was constant flirting between the both of us.
On my last day all my coworkers went out together and Dave came out too. We were inseparable the entire night and everyone was noticing. At one point he turned to his friend and said, while looking at me, "I hate how much I love this girl." I felt like that was it -- that we definitely have feelings for each other.
Fast forward a couple of months and I haven't heard a word from him. There were a couple of texts that I initiated, but that was it. I can't figure out what happened. Was he just being funny? Did he really "love" me? I'm so confused! I think about that night and him and still remain confused.
What should I do? I get the urge to text him or call him and just ask why he hasn't talked to me or why he said what he said. Then I think that I should just let it go. If he really liked me he would have followed up. But I need closure because I feel like he might be waiting for me to make the move!
– Never know when to let go, Boston
A: I see three possibilities here, NKWTLG. The probable one is that Dave is a big-time flirt who finds you very attractive but doesn't plan to do anything about it. He might be one of those magnetic people who can make you feel like you're the center of the universe. Those people are great, but that's often their whole plan -- they get a high from attention, but it stops there.
Another possibility (much less probable) is that Dave is super shy and needs you to ask him out. This wouldn't make a whole lot of sense -- he was forward enough to flirt pretty publicly in front of friends -- but maybe alcohol fueled that aggressiveness.
The third possibility is that Dave has a girlfriend. If that's the case, none of this matters.
So you tell me. Is Dave shy? Is he the kind of guy who's too scared to ask someone out when he's sober? When you sent those texts, did he seem relieved that you had made a first move? Are your old friends from work pushing you to ask him out? Or ... was Dave the kind of guy who lit up a room no matter who was in it? Did you ever feel like he was desperate to get to know the real you -- outside of work?
Be honest with yourself and make decisions accordingly. I'm willing to accept that Dave is a shy guy who needs help if you tell me that's the case, but nothing you've said in this letter makes me want to jump to that conclusion.
And for the record, "I hate how much I love this girl!" -- as a statement yelled in public -- doesn't mean much to me. It means that there's an attraction, but it doesn't mean love.
Readers? Should she ask Dave what happened? What do you think about Dave? Am I right about the options? Help.
– Meredith
It's not easy dating green
I'll run updates later this week. If you're a letter writer and you want to send an update, email it to meregoldstein at gmail with "UPDATE" in the subject line.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I have recently ended a relationship with a wonderful guy. Let's call him Mr. Green. He was my stab at "green dating" (the recycling of ex-boyfriends) after my marriage of 15 years ended. Mr. G contacted me out of the blue via Facebook almost a year after my breakup and we reconnected there. We have spent the past 2+ years in a relationship that I knew was doomed from the start.
I was honest with him from the get-go. I am not interested in ever being married again or even living with another man. I enjoyed his company, he was great with my kids, but the same issues we had 20+years ago were still valid. We are just ultimately not compatible. He has never been married and has his own emotional issues. He's a wonderfully sensitive guy and I love him very much but love isn't enough.
I ended the relationship last year but accepted a friendship with him. It was infrequent visits at first but then it became a monthly thing. We became friends with benefits and I felt like we were back in the thick of it again. I wasn't feeling compelled to go out there and meet others, nor was he.
One of our major differences is that I am demonstrative of my feelings and he lives in an emotional straight jacket. I get why, but it doesn't make me want to stay with him. I have now ended it for good and this time there will be no "friendship." I still care for him, I am still alone and he is too. Seeing each other will end up only one way. It’s unproductive for both our lives.
He is hurt that I won't be his friend. He says it's unprogressive of me, someone who prides herself on being a liberal-minded person. Am I wrong to not try to just be his friend? Can lovers really be friends after such intimacy? More than the proverbial innocuous holiday email that some exes can share, I don't believe you can just be friends without that tension or those old feelings coming up. Maybe I just wear my feelings too outwardly? Maybe I should restrain my feelings like him. Or maybe we just can't be friends. What do you think?
– Green Dater, Boston
A: It's not "unprogressive" to keep your distance, GD. It's honest and wise. Some exes are more than capable of being friends, but you guys aren't. So that's that. No friendship, at least not while you're single and vulnerable to making mistakes.
You can't change who you are. You can't bottle up your feelings and stay on your side of the friendship couch while he's sitting there just two cushions away. My guess is that he knows this, and that he's hoping that after another reconciliation or two you'll change your mind about him.
Explain that you need this space to figure out what it really feels like to be broken up. And tell him that dealing with the loss of an ex isn't about being liberal-minded. It's about protecting yourself. It's about reality. Assure him that a friendship might be possible -- later. But for now you need space. Your gut is right about that.
Readers? Thoughts on being "liberal" about post-breakup friendships? Thoughts on green dating? Is she being fair? Discuss.
– Meredith
I've been cut off
Q: I'm in my mid-20s and I recently ended my relationship with my girlfriend of six years. We lived together for several years but I recently moved to another state for work. There were problems outside of distance. I felt like I carried the entire relationship.
I'm ashamed to admit that before we broke up I cheated. My work sent me to another city (4 hours a way) for the month and I met someone who was also in a long relationship. We just clicked instantly and I've never had that sensation before. It started out as something physical, but it very quickly became something more. She told me she loved me and I said the same back. She said she's never felt this way about someone and that I taught her what it means to truly be in love. She said that I am the first person who's made her feel like part of a team and that I'm the first person she's ever liked cuddling with. We became very emotionally attached. I left town and we continued talking on the phone and texting daily. She even came up to visit and said she saw us having a future together.
I realized I needed to break up with my girlfriend -- I had been with the other woman for a month and my relationship was clearly over. The day before I was going to break up, this other woman phoned and said she was pregnant. She decided to end the pregnancy (a decision I agreed with) and I put my feelings aside to help her in any way I could. We still talked about how much we loved and cared for each other even while dealing with the pregnancy.
When this happened we both ended our respected relationships. It was difficult and she had a hard time dealing with the infidelity on her part. We talked a bit about what was going to happen next with us and she was confused and said she needed time but that she loved me so much. A week after the abortion she called and said that we shouldn't talk and that we both needed to move on. She said that I only reminded her of what happened and what we had before meant nothing. She said I have honestly never felt this way about anyone before, but all I represented was the abortion.
I am having such a hard time accepting this. I am really confused that over the course of two weeks I could go from the love of someone's life to meaning absolutely nothing to them. The pregnancy and the abortion were hard on me and I will never know what it must have been like for her, but I still love this person dearly and still see a future with her. I don't want to just jump into another relationship, but I feel like I shared a lot (albeit briefly) with this other woman and wish we could communicate and work through this. I don't know why she just completely gave up on me and wants me totally out of her life.
– Sorry for the long letter, Massachusetts
A: You can't control her decisions, SFTLL, but you need to understand that that you don't suddenly mean "nothing" to her. In fact, you mean plenty -- which is why she doesn't want to look at you. You symbolize the good and the terrible. You symbolize infidelity, the end of a pregnancy, and life-changing intimacy that came out of nowhere. You symbolize the end of a long relationship. Most of all, you symbolize confusion.
You can tell her (via email) that you hope she changes her mind. You can tell her that you're confused too but that you're willing to process what's happened to both of you while continuing to get to know her. You can tell her that you don't want to overwhelm her but that you’d like to stick around so that you can enjoy all that you experienced before the pregnancy. You can also tell her that you could both use some therapy after all of the confusion.
If she bites and wants to talk more, that's great. If she doesn’t, there's nothing you can do. For all you know she's back with the ex, and if she truly wants you gone, you have to go away and start dealing with the loss. And while you're at it, give yourself some time to mourn your ex. You never had the time to think about the end of your long relationship. Take some space. You need it just as much as she does.
Readers? What should he do? Should he be alone right now? What should he tell this woman? How can he process this? When should he reach out? Help.
– Meredith
I've moved on with his friend
Q: Dear Meredith,
Almost a year ago, the man I lived with for many years passed away tragically. During the last few years that we shared a bed together, we were more like best friends sleeping side by side, having no sexual contact besides hugs and cuddling. We were best friends, however, and every part of the life we lived was together. We were extremely close with each other's families and friends, and I received an overwhelming amount of support after his passing, and still do.
One friend in particular has been an ongoing and consistent source of peace of mind for me. He has talked me out of some of my worst thoughts and lowest points, simultaneously managing to bring back happiness. Our friendship eventually escalated and we became physical. We have a mutual friend who is aware and supportive, but other than that no one else knows. We spend a few nights a week together and I find myself counting down the days until our next date.
Originally we had both decided that it would be best if no one else knew of our situation. On my end, I didn't want to hurt my late partner's family members who might not think enough time had passed. Meanwhile, he worries about what his friends will think. As we approach a new year and my early 30s seem to be flying by, I am beginning to want more out of this and have started dropping hints. I had avoided the sit down conversation until now because I have been so happy with our situation and didn't want to change the dynamics. Despite my hints, he has demonstrated that he is more comfortable keeping us under wraps.
I am challenged with the idea that as long as we stay under wraps, he is able to avoid a commitment, although he has openly said that he is not dating or sleeping with anyone else. At this point, do you think it is healthier for us to just break ties? I wouldn't betray his trust and let it slip out to our group of friends, yet I don’t want to end up in another unconventional relationship. What do you think?
– Going With the Flow, Boston
A: GWTF, have you asked him if he ever plans on telling anyone? Have you asked him whether he sees this as something that will continue? Have you asked the one friend who knows about your situation what this looks like from the outside?
It's time to ask. No more dropping hints. Just explain that you have enough going on in your head without having to keep secrets. His fear of going public is understandable but you can't continue like this for much longer. And he shouldn't be lying to his friends.
Have the talk and figure out whether his secrecy is about guilt or a fear of commitment. My guess is that it's both. My guess is that he's worried about what his friends will think, and that he doesn't know how to deal with the fact that dating you is anything but casual.
It's not uncommon for people to wind up dating the friends of their deceased former partners. There's a shared loss, a strong history, and often, it winds up being a great thing. But these relationships can be confusing. Obviously.
Right now, you need to take care of you. Tell him that while the secrets were understandable in the beginning, they can't continue. Assure him that dating you publicly doesn't mean that you have to stay together forever -- it just means that you're seeing how it works. That's all he has to tell his friends. (And trust me, they want you both to be happy.) If he needs help figuring out what to say to his community, you can take him to a grief counselor for help. That's what they're for.
If he doesn't want anything to do with you out in the open, you need to start making connections and finding new outlets for support. You said it best -- your early 30s are flying by. You want love. I don't want you to keep falling harder for this guy if he's not going to let you enjoy him.
Readers? Is his hesitation understandable? Will his friends be upset? Is this about loss or commitment issues? Discuss.
– Meredith
How can I forgive?
Q: Dear Meredith,
While my current relationship is storybook, it is this past one that almost three years later sometimes keeps me up at night.
My ex, "Sam," was my high-school sweetheart. We dated for five years without many of the hiccups that are usually associated with young love. We did not attend the same college but both made an equal effort to see each other every weekend. Sam and I enjoyed sharing our time with our families and many mutual friends. We survived the stresses of college and entered our professional lives together.
And just like that, the relationship abruptly ended ... in a text message. The reason? Undisclosed. I begged for an explanation (quite pathetically, in fact), but all Sam could gather was that he had a feeling that he needed to be alone. At my request we met up one week later for the sorriest excuse for a discussion that I have ever been privy to. Sam was cold -- clearly uncomfortable, effectively mute -- and yet somehow trying to convince me that I would always be part of his life. He still offered no explanation for his decision but repeatedly told me that we would "talk soon." That was the last time we spoke.
Sam immediately took affirmative steps to erase me from his life, ranging from disengaging with our mutual friends to cleansing his Facebook account of any connections to me, however distant. People I believed were my friends did the same. My heart broke in more ways than one. I cannot put to words exactly how I felt, but a near lethal combination of devastated and disrespected conveys the start of it. If you guessed that this situation reeks of another woman, you'd be right. As time always tells, the reason turned out to be someone new. Sam and this new crush of his launched straight into a relationship. To quote my mother, that is neither here nor there and frankly, I felt relieved to finally have a reason.
I suffered through the heartbreak and then the anger, re-established my sense of self, and moved on. Moved on with baggage that is. I still want the discussion that I still feel that I deserve. Sam never apologized for his actions beyond the "sry" that I received in the initial break-up text. Since Sam's great disappearing act, he slowly began to reappear through mutual friends -- inquiring about me whenever the situation presented itself (to, as I'm told, the new girl’s visible dismay), stating that he thinks about me often, and even claiming that it is "shame" that we cannot be friends. As we have gotten older and friends have moved, these situations are few and far between. Beyond a lousy Facebook friend request that I promptly rejected, Sam has never reached out to me directly -- but infrequently posts on my friends' Facebook profiles just to wish them well or comment on something seemingly random. I have never reached out to him or any of our ex-mutual friends. Once Sam made it clear that he intended to erase me from his life, I promised myself that I would do just that. I just can’t shake the fact that I want to speak with Sam, at least one last time. I don't want an enduring friendship, but I want to be civil. I don't want to feel like Sam is taboo. Do I break my long-kept promise? Do I continue to wait? I often believe that I have accepted the fact that we will never speak again but ever so suddenly, my desire to contact him rouses. Help!
– Once and for All, Hartford
A: One way to end this is to forgive him, OAFA. He was young. He met someone else. It happens.
Forgive him (in your head) because it was his first big breakup and he didn't know what he was doing. Forgive him because he misses you. Forgive him because he and his friends weren't trying to delete you as a person when they de-friended you on Facebook (and in real life). In reality, they were trying to protect you from seeing information about your ex and his new girlfriend. They were attempting to establish boundaries on your behalf, as was your ex, who didn't understand that telling you about the new girl would have given you a better sense of closure than simply running away without explanation.
Forgive him for being an idiot and not knowing how to do this right. And forgive yourself for wanting to call. We all want to call our exes sometimes. There's nothing wrong with you for longing to reach out. Longing is a part of being human.
If you see him commenting on Facebook know that it's just because he misses you and your community. He's not trying to torment you. And know that if you see him online -- or in real life -- you can nod and maybe even smile. Because you're going through a shared experience. You're screaming on the inside, wondering what happened and why it didn't work. He's screaming on the inside, ashamed that he couldn't sustain the relationship and that he sent a text that said "sry." (Trust me, that haunts him.)
Assume that every time he reaches out, he's striving for normalcy -- and to make everything less taboo. Control you urge to reach out because this is about showing, not telling. You can show each other that you're OK, that you'll always care, and that you're looking for peace. I think that's what he’s trying to do.
Readers? How can she deal with this? Should she reach out? What is he trying to do? How can she forgive? Help.
– Meredith
There's an issue with gifts
Q: Dear Meredith,
I am a lurker who is finally compelled to write in after yet another conversation surrounding gift giving or lack thereof….
I have been dating my boyfriend for a few years. We are both in our mid-20s and see a future together. It is definitely a serious relationship with basically no drama other than the occasional, typical disagreements.
One thing that really irks me, especially around gift-giving season, is that he won't give me jewelry. He asks directly what I would like, but says "no" when I say that I would really like jewelry. (I didn't even ask until 2 years into it when I realized that he clearly wasn't planning on it.) It is not because of the cost because apparently he has no problem buying me other expensive gifts (I don't ask for them, he just gives) but he flat out refuses. He will not give an answer as to why. His response is "I don't give jewelry." Nothing more. I realize this might sound materialistic, but if it's something that means so much to me, why it is different than the other things he gives me? I am not asking for anything expensive. It could be $25 or $10,000, I don’t care. It's just something that would make me happy and feel special (you all know what I mean). He will not give a reason other than "I don't give jewelry." I'm not asking for an engagement ring. Is it me or is this weird? I like to get him exactly what I know will make him happy. Is his stubbornness selfish or is it me?
– More Than Annoyed in Massachusetts
A: It's a little weird, MTAIM. I mean, it'd be much easier if he gave you a reason. Like, "I'm afraid of picking out the wrong thing." Or, "I'd prefer to buy you pretty holiday sweaters." Any reason -- no matter how ridiculous -- would be something.
Maybe he had an ex who was obsessed with jewelry. Maybe he thinks you look nicer when you're not accessorized. I don't know.
But here's what I do know: If he only buys you presents that he can enjoy (like a trip, electronics, or a nice dinner that he gets to eat too), I'd talk to him about how you approach gift giving in general. Because like you said, you want to get him things that make him happy, no matter what. If you think that his gift giving is selfish, you can certainly discuss what you'd like and why.
If his gifts are actually selfless and he's creative about giving you nice things that you'll enjoy (just not jewelry), I'd just accept his aversion to accessories as one of his weird things. We all have weird things. Like being afraid of heights or refusing to give foot massages because we don't like feet. Everyone has phobias and rules. As long as he's considerate without always needing to benefit from every gift, it's OK.
Readers? Weird? Not weird? Jewelry? Thoughts? Help.
– Meredith
Choosing between x and y
A note about next Thursday's (Dec. 15) gathering: You're invited to attend a Brookline Booksmith party for Sophie Blackall, who illustrates Missed Connections she finds online. (I've sort of fallen in love with her stuff.) After her book signing, Finale in Coolidge Corner is hosting an after-party for Love Letters readers. The night is free and I'd love for you to join me. RSVP at events@globe.com with "Missed Connections" in the subject line. You can enter your own Missed Connection for Blackall to draw here.
And ... we chat today at 1.
Q: Meredith, I need advice.
Background: Years ago, I was in a FWB relationship with Miss X. We met in college and were off/on for about a year. I never really made the push for a proper relationship. During one of our "off seasons" she got a boyfriend. We remained friends but I had decided I wanted a relationship with her. I was basically waiting for them to break up.
Once they did, our FWB thing continued, but I made my intentions known. She said she wasn't ready to get into another relationship, so I told her I'd wait. I then backed off and we didn't hang out as often.
A few months later we were at a club with a group of friends and she starts dancing with some guy, then kisses him, then leaves with him ... right in front of me. I was very upset and didn't talk to her for months. They wound up dating for a few years.
We talked months later. Apparently, she took my backing off as a loss of interest. (I didn’t believe that.) She knew I was interested, but I now think she has issues with needing attention from men. So the space I gave her probably drove her to seek attention elsewhere.
Her relationship with that guy ended badly. She moved out of state for a while and we hadn't kept in touch. I eventually met someone else ... Miss Y. She's great, and loves me to death. Been together 2 years.
Now: During my current relationship with Miss Y, I still carried around my anger for Miss X for a while. Recently I've accepted some responsibility for my role in the debacle. I didn't put up a fight for Miss X, and I honestly think it would have made a difference. Instead I just turned away and gave up. My anger with her has become regret for my own lack of action.
So Miss X is back in town and single. We wound up at a mutual friend's house and talked. She confessed how terrible she has always felt about what she did to me, and she wants to be friends. I told her this is difficult for me because I still have this regret, and my feelings for her still exist. She said she has feelings for me too. So which is it that she wants?
The truth is, I haven't been very happy with Miss Y for a while, so this makes me think even more about a potential reunion with Miss X. I don't know if Miss X wants just friendship, or if she's trying to give me the chance I never got before. Or maybe she's just single, unhappy, and looking for that male attention again.
I have no intention of being unfaithful to Miss Y, but I'm very tempted to find out where things could go with Miss X ... which I realize is a risk given her track record. I just can't help the physical attraction and feelings I still have for her. I still wonder ... what if? I'm not sure if I can let that go.
Do I see what Miss X wants, or try to make things better with Miss Y?
– Mr. Z
A: Z, my gut tells me that you should carefully break up with Miss Y and then spend some time alone. You're done with Y. She loves you to death but you don't reciprocate. And X? She says she wants to be friends. You have feelings for each other -- but they're old ones.
Let X be a catalyst for change. She's made you more self-aware about what you need to do about Y and she taught you that you can't be passive-aggressive about your feelings.
After you've spent some time with yourself (and without female attention), figure out if there's an A, B, and C. Please don't limit yourself. There are more than two people in your world. Start getting to know them.
Readers? Was he really responsible for what happened with X? Could there be a future with her? What about Y? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm having second thoughts about moving in
Q: Dear Meredith,
I have been dating my boyfriend for a few years now and the topic of moving in together has finally come up. A little bit of background: I come from a very strict upbringing in which you only live with a man once you are married and there are no such things as "boyfriends" until you are engaged. I am also very close with my family and consider myself the Mother Theresa of the group -- helping everyone whenever they are in need, no matter what. My boyfriend, on the other hand, is very close with his family but knows how to put himself first. His mother doesn't object to us living together.
At first I was happy with the thought of moving in together and we both agreed we would -- we even lived together over the summer in a vacation house as a trial. Everything was fine. The conversation about moving into a new place directly from the vacation house came up, but I wanted to move home for a while to be close to my parents (I have been living at home all my life and this is a very big deal for me, especially since I know my mother will refuse to visit me if I live with my boyfriend). My upbringing was also on my mind; I really felt like I did not want to move in with someone until I was married or at least engaged. I have a fear that we would be playing house with no commitment, and statistics show there is a higher divorce rate in couples that live together before marriage. I expressed my feelings to my boyfriend, which were opposite of my original feelings of wanting to move in. He said that he wanted to live together before getting married and there was no question in his mind about it. He also said I hurt him because he felt like I put him behind my family (this has been a continuous battle) and he became bitter at me for not moving in.
I do not want to keep giving my boyfriend high hopes and then yanking his heart out. I understand why he feels I put him second. He believes that if we live together he will no longer have this feeling because we will see each other more often.
Now I am stuck. Why am I second guessing my thought process? Do I really want to be married that bad, and if so, why so sudden? In the past year, I was totally against marriage due to the many divorces happening around me. I thought about it, and if he were to ask me to marry him, I would be ready to move in a heartbeat. My problem now is I don't want to move in because I feel as if I am being forced in order to save our relationship. But I am scared that if I don't move in, he will continue to be bitter at me and we will eventually break up. Please help!
Thank you,
– Move in?, Out of State
A: This doesn't seem to be about your family, MI. It's about your fear of relationship failure. You're anxious about "playing house" without a plan. You're even more anxious about divorce. That's why you're not moving in. You want a guarantee.
But there are no guarantees. Even if your boyfriend proposes before you move in, there's no telling what will happen in six months or a year. And those statistics? Don't focus on them too much. For the record, I have no official opinion about whether couples should live together before marriage -- every twosome is different -- but my official opinion about statistics and studies is that they only tell part of a story. Some couples get divorced after living together because they have the financial means to do so. And at least a few of the married people who never lived together before getting hitched wind up staying together because they want to honor family and commitment no matter what, even if they're unhappy.
My advice is to explain to your boyfriend that this isn't about your family and that you've developed a real fear of living together without a commitment. If you move in and successfully live together for six months or a year, does he want to get married? Is that the goal?
Listen to his plans and hear him out. Explain that you're really putting him first, which is why you're so petrified.
Readers? Should she move in? Does her family have anything to do with this? Help.
– Meredith
I want to confess
Good morning.
Q: Meredith,
I have never done something like this but I feel lost. I broke up with my boyfriend of a few years a little while ago. We both still love each other but we couldn't manage to make a relationship function. We both have very different personalities and struggled with communication since the very start. It was a mutual break up; we both realized that the relationship was not what we wanted. We want to stay friends in the long run.
I have come to terms with the fact that we were not working as a couple and it was both our faults. The issue is something deeper though. I still have guilt because of my actions in the relationship.
When we first started dating, I cheated on my boyfriend while extremely drunk. My friends had to tell me it happened because I didn't remember a thing. I have never felt so horrible and disgusted with myself. I told my boyfriend, and he forgave me, and I thought we had moved on.
Fast-forward a year and I spent a semester abroad in a different country. I still had problems controlling my drinking, and again I found myself cheating on my boyfriend while drunk. I couldn't believe myself and felt incredibly guilty. I still do. Since then I have gained control of my drinking, and I have been focused on improving myself.
The thing is that I never told my boyfriend (or I guess now ex) that I cheated on him while abroad. I feel like since then I have become a different, more controlled, and more loyal person. I almost feel like it wasn't me who cheated, but my evil twin. I do eventually want to get back together with him once we work out our differences, but I can't handle the guilt that I have for cheating on him. I struggle to sleep at night and I feel like I need to tell him. I don't know if this is the right approach at all or if I should just let it be. HELP!!!
– Cheating Chick, Chicago
A: Leave this alone, CC. Take it to a counselor. Take it to a friend. Please don't call your already-ex boyfriend and say, "By the way, do you want to know some more awful stuff about me?"
Just assume that you both misbehaved during your relationship. Old information is pretty useless at this point.
My guess is that you want to reveal this stuff because you want the chance to say, "I'm loyal! I'm better!" You want to ensure that you'll get back together and you figure that this dramatic confession -- along with tales of your maturity -- will make that happen.
My advice? Show don't tell. Don't call him to read off a list of infidelities followed by a resume of awesome girlfriend traits that you now possess. Instead be his friend. If/when he calls, listen. See him at a party and watch him watch you control your behavior. And while you're acting like a champ, get to know yourself all over again. Because maybe over time you'll realize that you'd actually prefer to date someone new.
Your sleepless nights are about getting over a breakup. Give yourself a fresh start, and if you need to cry it out about what you did in your past life, tell a real friend. That's what they’re for.
Readers? Am I wrong? What's with this need to confess? How can she move on from her bad behavior? Help.
– Meredith
I notice flaws
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Q: Hi Meredith,
I have been in and out of relationships for the majority of my life. Although I have had a few successful stints with women, I ALWAYS find a flaw in my partner. It is a real problem for me.
It all started in college when I would ask a girl out for the first time. I would always have certain girls I was very attracted to and would do anything to date. However, when they showed interest in me, I suddenly found them less attractive. I have asked my friends and it makes no sense why this would happen to me. I am definitely attracted to women; I just constantly struggle to stay attracted to a woman for more than a month or two.
I find ridiculous flaws like their chin, their eyes, their figure, teeth and other miniscule things. Women who other men find attractive I eventually find a miniscule flaw with. The crazy thing is that I notice my flaws just as much. (I inherited terrible posture from my father.) I know that no one is perfect on the outside.
My most recent relationship was with "Taylor." She was attractive and all my friends reassured me. However, her chin was abnormally large and I couldn't help but consistently notice it. She also bit her nails. I realize these are two small flaws but for some reason they bothered me way too much to stay with her.
I really would like some advice on this, Meredith, because I am no longer as young as I used to be and want to find someone perfect for me, but I realize I have to reduce my definition of perfect. Please help me on how this could happen.
I appreciate your help,
– MT, Winthrop
A: MT, you don't have to reduce your definition of perfect, you have to expand it. Not once do you mention these women's personalities. I have to assume that you're not really getting to know them. I have to assume that they never become your friends. Men (and women) are visual creatures and looks count for a lot, but personality and confidence can change a person's appearance. Is it possible that these women become less attractive to you because their personalities just don't cut it? Were you bummed about Taylor's chin -- or was it her chin and her sense of humor? Were you turned off by her biting her nails -- or was it that the habit never became endearing because you just weren't connecting with her?
My guess is that you're the kind of guy who's better off falling for a friend. Someone you really know. Someone whose flaws don't even look like flaws because they're a part of one big package.
My advice: Get to know people without thinking about whether you want to date them. Expand your community. See who you fall for organically. Maybe by the time you have a first kiss with a friend, you'll have fallen for her weird chin, her nervous habits, and her whole being.
And for the record, it doesn't bother me that you pick at yourself a little, as long as it's not obsessive (if it is, get to a therapist). And it doesn't bother me that your tastes are unique (I know guys who think Gisele is bony). And when we're young, we often want what we can't have. A lot of what you described is very, very normal.
But now that you're a grown-up, start getting to know people for real. The more you fall for the stuff on the inside, the better it looks on the outside. Think about how the inside is affecting what you see.
Readers? Is he really shallow or are these physical judgments about him not connecting with them as people? Are you someone who notices other people's flaws? Can you help this guy? Discuss.
– Meredith
Dealing with a depressed partner
It was a good chat yesterday.
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Q: Hi Meredith,
I am a 30-year-old woman who has been married before. My ex-husband was obsessed with video games and basically chose to play them instead of spending any time with me. A few years ago I finally got a divorce and left the situation.
After going on dates here and there, I eventually met my current boyfriend, "Jay," through mutual friends and I felt instantly attracted to him. We started dating and have been together for over two years now. Things have been up and down. We've briefly split up a few times, but things have been great lately and I love him more than anything.
Here comes the problem: We both struggle with depression. Mine is seasonal, while his is sporadic and seems to be more severe. He tends to go through fits of depression where he will sleep all the time. Lately he's been sleeping or playing video games instead of wanting to spend time with me. The problem is that he doesn't realize that it's as bad as it is. When I've gotten upset and said that I feel like I haven't spent much time with him, he thinks I'm being over-dramatic. The other problem is that he hasn't been as attracted to me as he was just a few months ago. He says it's just because he's depressed, but yesterday he said that it's because he's bored with me and doesn't feel like being physical. I asked him if it would always be this way -- because I can't live like that ... so now I'm at an impasse.
At what point does me being understanding and wanting to wait it out through this fit of depression turn into me being a doormat and letting him walk all over me? It's genuinely wearing on me and now I am feeling depressed as well. I love him more than anything and always want to be with him in the future, but is there a future if he doesn't even want to sleep with me anymore?
– Beyond Depressed, Boston
A: BD, you asked him whether it would always be this way. Well …. what was his answer? Is he concerned about these feelings of apathy? Is he seeking treatment for this depression? Is he doing what's necessary to save this relationship? Does he want you around in a year?
Sorry to pepper you with questions, but you should be asking him (and yourself) about all of these issues. I believe that most couples can get through lulls bad patches, but both partners have to put in the effort. You learned in your first marriage that you can't fix a relationship on your own. If Jay isn't willing to help with this, you're doomed.
The big question for Jay is: "What do you propose we do now?" He knows that you can't stay together without having a sexual relationship. He knows that you're unhappy when he's off napping. He either wants to work on finding a compromise and fixing this (which calls for therapy – maybe even with you), or he's willing to let you go.
Get some answers. See what he's capable of. Be honest with yourself about how much you can get done on your own. You can't wait out bad patches for the rest of your life. Depression has to be treated -- yours and his. Are you both getting the treatment and help you need?
Readers? Is this fixable? Should she just leave now? Anyone have advice about dealing with a depressed partner? What's with the video games? Discuss.
– Meredith
He's back to tempt me
And ... I'll be posting some information about a Dec. 15 Love Letters event on Twitter later today, so check in.
Q: Hi Meredith,
Daily reader. Love you and the commenters. Just a little lost at the moment and was hoping you all could point me in a direction ... any direction.
I'm a smart, attractive (at least *I* think so), almost-30-year-old gal who hasn't had the most luck in love. I've been single for the past year and half (healing from an ugly break-up: destroyed my self-esteem, etc.). I tried online dating over the summer and after a string of film-worthy nightmare dates, decided against really trying to find love. I should clarify: I'm in the midst of applying to return to school next fall (nowhere in Mass.), and I felt I should probably focus more on that.
Of late an old boyfriend from half a decade ago (let's call him Ike) has re-surfaced. Ike is 6 years my senior and extremely charming. We shared a brief, volatile few months together years ago. But we're very, very different. He's immature, very wealthy, and has had a lot handed to him. I have always worked really hard for every position I've ever had, and part of our volatility simply came from this fundamental difference.
Anyway, every year or so, back comes Ike. Charming as ever and throwing all sorts of inappropriate comments at me about how he's thought about me so much over the years, how I'm one of the most intelligent, opinionated, strong people he's ever met, and how he wants to be "in my life in some way." Yet he often flakes if we make plans, typically initiated by me in the first place. He's evasive and resistant to any real connection. Each time he's done this I’ve told him (diplomatically, of course) to [expletive] off. I've explained that I don't like, nor do I wish to engage in superficial relationships with anyone, much less an ex I have such a strange history with. The most recent occurrence of this was just a few months ago over the summer. Usually after I tell him to leave me alone, he does so. For awhile at least. Yet he just popped back up last week and acted completely surprised by my wariness. And in that conversation it also came up that he'd ended a relationship over the summer -- a relationship he never bothered to mention when he reappeared in June (Shocking. No wonder you contacted me ...).
Meredith, help. I'm in this strange limbo where I'm just really frustrated and lonely and trying to be satisfied with a future that still seems so far away. So I can feel myself drawn to the attention from Ike. But I know at the end of the day, I can't and shouldn't trust this person's intentions (whatever they might be). Any suggestions what to do?
– Lost!, Somerville
A: You're moving. You're about to start a whole new life at a new school. You're experiencing a lull. You need a boost.
So use Ike. I mean, you know he's not for you, right? Take the compliments if you feel like hearing them. Redefine him as the guy you use for some attention when you need it. Accept him for what he is -- an exciting distraction.
It's a challenge to keep these non-relationships in perspective when you're in a rut, but you're on your way out. You have so much to look forward to. Right now, Ike is a reminder that you're the object of somebody's affection. He just can't seem to let you go.
You know what's going to happen. He's going to swoop in and then disappear. Instead of trying to get yourself to ignore him -- something you know you don't want to do right now -- call it what it is and enjoy. Don't get angry. Have a scandalous phone call or dinner and let him tell you how awesome you are. Giggle and roll your eyes.
And while you're Ike-ing it up, start fantasizing about 2012 and all it has to offer. Because it's coming sooner than you think, I promise.
Readers? Can she enjoy Ike without getting confused? What should she do? Help.
– Meredith
I'm more educated
Q: I have spent the last year in the world's longest-distance relationship; the door-to-door trip is over 24 hours. "Rob" and I have known and taken vacations with each another for several years prior to engaging in the LDR. Rob is in his mid-40s, I am in my mid-30s, and we are both divorced with no children.
We are ready to take the relationship to the next level; we plan to move in together in the same city (the location is yet to be determined) with the intent of marrying if all goes well. We are both fortunate enough to have careers that, with some financial sacrifice, would allow us to work from anywhere. The question is whether we have enough of a foundation to take this next step. He is low-maintenance, kind, affectionate, witty, and intelligent. I can be a prima donna -- but I'm also fiercely fun-loving.
I am also more educated than he is. I hold a PhD while he did not finish his undergraduate degree. Although he is not ambitious (I am), he earns a high salary (mine is a bit lower) due to danger pay and has managed to put away a substantial nest egg (I have no assets). Any move would halve his salary.
Is it possible to plan a future with someone whose educational attainment is so far below mine and whose income, after the move, would be as unremarkable as his job? I love this man, but I worry that someone more articulate with a shinier career could pull me away.
– Not in Boston, Europe
A: So, are you saying that if he didn't earn a great living you wouldn't be in love with him? Are you saying that without that big salary he just doesn't offer enough? It seems to me that you fell in love with him because you liked spending time with him. You've been with him for years despite meeting people with shinier jobs along the way. You've stayed committed for a reason -- you haven't wanted to let him go.
You're coming off as judgmental in this letter, but I'm convinced that your anxiety is about something else. My guess is that you're having cold feet about turning this into a real, not-long-distance relationship. You realize that as soon as he relocates, you're in it for good, and that's scary. You’re coming up with a panicky list of reasons why it might not work out.
My advice is to visit him soon so that you can remind yourself that he is "low-maintenance, kind, affectionate, witty, and intelligent." Instead of making lists of the reasons it might not work, make a list of why you want to do this -- why you've stayed with him all this time.
I know you're scared, but all you have to do is focus on whether you love him. Jobs are fluid. He might wind up making more than you in the future. He might wind up getting his own PhD. The only relevant question right now is: Do you want more of him?
Readers? Do they have the foundation to move to be together? Are her concerns about his education and salary? If so, why didn't this stuff bother her before? Discuss.
– Meredith
A co-worker crush
Hey there. No chat today.
You'll get updates over the next two days, so enjoy.
And have a happy Thanksgiving.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I work with this guy who is fairly new to the office. I have taken an interest in him and it would appear that he has an interest in me as well. He was very shy at first (most people in the office think he is shy), however I don't find him to be shy at all. Every time I walk by him he starts acting like a five year old ... throwing stuff at me, etc. A number of mutual friends and co-workers have questioned him about his interest in me and have flat out asked why he hasn't asked me out yet or made a move. His response is always, "I don't want to date or be romantic with someone I work with but she is really cute and cool."
I'm very inexperienced with dating. I don't have a lot of confidence in myself when it comes to guys, strictly because I am not ever approached or asked out. I am not saying that I am head over heels in love with this guy, but I am very comfortable around him and I have a great time when he is around. This is someone I am very interested in getting to know better to see if there really is something there.
So, my question: Is this something I can change his mind about? If so, how do I go about it without making things awkward? And if he really isn't interested why does he go out of his way to talk to me, acknowledge me, and be a constant flirt? (Please keep in mind that he does not act like this around anyone else in the office.)
– Is He Interested?, Boston
A: Ask him out. For coffee. Something easy.
He's telling mutual friends that he won't date a co-worker but he hasn't told you a thing. Instead of getting this information third and fourth hand, approach him directly. And don't let your confidence mess with you. You already know that he thinks you're cute and cool. He is interested. Even if he says no to an evening out, you know that he digs you. No matter what he says, this will be a wonderful practice activity.
You have every reason to be self-assured. Yes, it's possible that he'll stick to his rules about dating in the work place, but honestly, it's easier to tell friends that you're not going to pursue a crush than it is to look into the face of your crush and say, "No thanks."
Ask him to hang out. Keep us posted.
Readers? Should she respect his rule? Do you think that he’d say yes to her even though he said no to their friends? Is asking someone out any easier if you're experienced? Discuss.
– Meredith
Can I date my friend's ex?
Q: Hi,
John and Sara are both great people who have been my friends for a long time, though I am closer to her. We are all in our early 30s. Sara is someone I met in my 20s and John and I grew up together. They met through me and dated for a few years almost a decade ago. I was thrilled to have two great friends fall in love but they had a messy breakup and haven't spoken in years.
Fast forward to now. Sara is still pretty sensitive about the relationship but has since moved on and is with a wonderful man she will spend the rest of her life with. John and I both find ourselves single and have realized we have a mutual attraction; we recently shared a passionate kiss that surprised both of us.
We've always been friends but perhaps there is something more. He has all the qualities I am looking for in a life partner. John invited me to spend a weekend away with him to try to find out if there could be more to our friendship that we've been missing all these years. I would love to explore this but if we did end up in a relationship, I know Sara would feel betrayed and it would definitely not be OK with her. But maybe over time she could come to accept it. Her current relationship is amazing but John will always hold a strong place in her heart.
Should I keep my distance from John and keep things on the casual friend level like they've always been? Or keep an open mind, explore things with him to see if there's even some possibility for more first, before worrying about the rest and Sara?
– Once a friend's boyfriend always a friend's boyfriend?, Boston
A: My first piece of advice? Don't take a weekend trip with John to figure this out. Weekends away don't solve anything. You need to ask John -- while you're here in the real world -- whether he wants to pursue this or whether he's just scratching an itch. Spend an evening or two as friends and see how it feels. On an average Wednesday, are you thinking about kissing him? And on that average Wednesday, what does he think of you?
If both of you do want to try dating, you've got three options.
1. Pursue this, come clean to Sara, risk losing her.
2. Don't pursue this, resent her.
3. Tell Sara that you kissed John and that you're freaking out. Ask her if it's possible to date him without losing her. Let her know how conflicted you are. (Crying wouldn't hurt.)
I'd go for 3. It's very possible that Sara will say, "Stay away from him," but it's more likely that she'll look at her single friend and say, "Let's try to deal with this." She'll be angry, but at least she'll know that you aren't keeping any secrets.
We've all been the Sara, the person who can't quite get over a John from long ago. The idea of a close friend dating any of my Johns is pretty overwhelming. But my love for my Saras, and my desire for them to be happy, trumps my resentment toward any of my Johns.
Talk to John about his intentions -- here in the real world, not on a weekend away. If after some normal friend outings you both want to take the next baby step, sit down with Sara and ask for guidance.
Readers? Should she stay away from John? What are the rules here? What about this weekend away? How is Sara going to react? Discuss.
– Meredith
I want him to be manly
Q: Hi Meredith,
I've been dating a great guy for a few years. He's smart, has a good job, is handsome, etc. People who know him think he's a "good catch."
We've begun to talk about marriage but one thing bothers me: I worry that he's not "manly" enough.
What I mean is that often times I feel like I'm the one in the relationship who does the things a guy should do. I hate to sound stereotypical, but let me give you a few examples:
Recently, we were at the movies. The theater was packed. The person sitting next to us kept interrupting and making noise throughout the movie. After not getting the body language cues I was sending, I asked the woman to be quiet.
During the recent snow storm, our neighbor, an elderly person, was outside shoveling snow. My boyfriend said he was sick and went to bed. I went out and helped instead.
I got a flat tire. We called AAA and waited. In the meantime, an old man had stopped to help. He insisted on helping us change the tire. My boyfriend stood by and watched. When I asked him about it later, his response was: "He didn't have to do it."
He can't fix anything in the condo and thinks nothing of calling the repairman to close a stuck window or change a light bulb that broke in the socket. I feel like it's a waste of money.
I know I must sound like some woman out of the 50s, but what I want to know is that my potential husband would protect me from a pack of wild dogs (or zombies) and not run in the opposite direction. Is this a deal-breaker? Am I being over-analytical? Over-critical?
– Overreacting in New England?
A: I know at least a few hot, masculine guys who look even hotter and manlier when they admit that they don't know how to fix a broken light bulb in a socket and call a repair person to get it done right. You know what's not hot? Getting electrocuted.
It's not about whether your boyfriend is masculine; it's about whether he's thoughtful and chivalrous. Who cares if he can change a flat tire if he asks you whether you're warm enough while you wait for the tow truck?
If he's too sick to shovel, fine. But when you returned from shoveling, did he thank you? Did he offer to make you some soup? Was he nice?
Ask yourself whether he's compassionate and thoughtful. That's all that matters. You have every right to expect empathy, but no one in their right mind would fight off zombies. Better to be with the guy who gives you a big romantic kiss and then takes you into the zombie-proof hideaway that he paid a real handyman (or handywoman) to build.
If he lacks compassion, you have something to worry about.
Readers? Is this about masculinity or compassion? Are her expectations fair? Zombies? Thoughts? Discuss.
– Meredith
Can I reach out to her?
I'd like to run some updates next week. If you're a letter writer and can update us on your situation, please email me (meregoldstein at gmail dot com) with the word "UPDATE" in the subject line. Tell us what's up -- and make sure you send the email from the account you used to send the original letter so I know it's really you.
Q: I'm a man in his mid to late 20s who has made some mistakes in his life. In my early 20s, I treated women like they were conquests. I realized what I was doing when I was 23, felt guilt, and buried myself in a not-so-great three-year relationship (I was treated like a doormat until I walked away). I have spent some serious time thinking about one girl in particular who I met before I was in that relationship.
I met this particular woman when we were freshmen in college and I instantly fell in love with her. The problem was that I was a "grass is always greener" guy back then. For five years she and I dated on and off until I officially ended it. She saw what was good in me. She always saw past my bravado and would keep me in check. We haven't spoken in 3 years and I want to reach out to her. Not because I instantly think we should get back together but because I sincerely want to apologize. I have lived with this guilt for years now because I know in my heart that I should have stuck with her. I also know that I screwed her up emotionally. I believe people can change and I know that I have.
Do you think it would be a bad idea for me to reach out an apologize after three years of no contact? Eventually we will cross paths because we have mutual friends who have weddings coming up. I know with my luck we will be seated at the same table because our friends have sick senses of humors and always loved us together. What should I do?
– Time Changes, CT
A: I'd wait until you see her at the weddings, TC. It's been three years. You don't know her anymore. You're romanticizing the relationship and thinking of her as the soul mate you left behind. In person, you might want to give her a quick apology and walk away.
If you want to give her a real, extended apology after seeing her, go for it, but keep your expectations low.
A disclosure: I've been on the other end of this kind of apology (Draco Malfoy). Getting it made me angry -- because it put me in the position of having to focus on someone who had already sucked up a lot of my time. I remember complaining to friends that the ex’s apology note was symbolic of so much -- that even after years of no contact, he was still reaching out to say, "Me! Me!"
But ...
I wouldn't undo the fact that he sent it.
The thing is, it was nice to know that he felt like an idiot, and it was therapeutic to read (via email – that's the best way to reach out) that he understood the importance of the relationship.
My advice is to do what feels right in your gut after you see her. And if you send the note, don't focus too much on yourself. "I feel ... I need ... I did ..." ... those kind of phrases are going to make her roll her eyes. Keep it to an apology and some honesty. As in, "I don't know if writing this note was a good idea ... it might be selfish. That said, I want you to walk around knowing that I've always understood your awesomeness." If she writes back, fine, but make it clear that she doesn't have to.
Get yourself to those weddings and then do what feels right.
Readers? Should he reach out? Are his intentions pure? Would you want to hear from him if you were the ex? Should he wait until he sees her at these weddings? Help.
– Meredith
My fiance and his ex
Q: Hi Meredith,
I am currently engaged to a great guy, who is sweet, loving ... and sometimes totally clueless. Or I hope it's cluelessness ...
We got engaged only after being together for less than six months, both of us being out of relationships shortly before we met. Trust me, we knew it was fast and didn't go get married or anything. We are still engaged after over a year and a half. We just knew it was what we wanted. We have our wedding set for next fall and things are moving along.
The problem is that my fiance has this ex-girlfriend who refuses to leave him alone. When we were first dating she immediately tried to get back together with him (I found this out later, of course) but he denied her and took things to the next level with me. I know, I know, I should feel confident about our relationship. But she constantly texts him, writes him on Facebook, and has her family members contact him. I even reached out to her one time, asking her to stop because of how disrespectful it is to me. She did for about a month. Then it started again.
My fiance claims it is just because he was close with her family. They want to see how he is doing, etc. There was a death in his family shortly after we started dating so a lot of people were there to support him and he claims that is all she is doing. I disagree. She texts him how she misses him, her family member sent him messages about how they always pictured her marrying someone like him, and how they hope he's not settling, etc. That is not being supportive about a situation; that is clear disregard for the fact he is engaged.
Why won't he just write back and tell them to stop?? Am I crazy? Should I just let this go because he is with me and not her?
– Frustrated in New Hampshire
A: I wouldn't let this go, FINH. This issue should serve as a big premarital life lesson for both of you.
I'd ask him to minimize his activity with his ex on Facebook and to set boundaries with her family. Quick one-sentence responses to them are fine. Nothing rude, just clear. "I'm very happy! Thanks for your concern!"
I don't think that your ex is clueless, but I do think that he's passive. And I think that the death in his family is causing a lot of these problems. His ex and her family assume he committed to you too quickly because he suffered a loss. He's afraid of being rude to these people because they were there for him when he needed it most.
But it's been almost two years. It's time for him to make some rules.
My advice is to start posing your needs as questions to see how he feels about them. As in, "Do you want to receive texts from her? Do you think it's appropriate?" Or, "Is there a way you can set boundaries with her family without being rude?" And, "In a perfect world, how often would you hear from your ex? How do you think you can make her understand?" See what you can come up with together. And make sure that you ask the most important question/statement: "I feel threatened by all of this activity with the ex. Do you understand why?" I'd also ask mutual friends for advice. Do they know this woman? Do they feel that she's in the right? Just curious about who's in your shared community at the moment.
When you get engaged after five months -- after a death -- some friends (or exes) feel they have the right to step in with questions and concerns. And that's fine. But this woman hasn't learned to accept her role as an ex, and your fiancé has been complicit.
You're not overreacting, but it’s time to get thoughtful with him about what to do next. You can't be doing this as a married woman. Make that clear.
Readers? Is this going to ruin their marriage? Am I right about the significance of the death in the family? Is it weird that his family is reaching out? Help.
– Meredith
How long can we take the distance?
I saw "Like Crazy" over the weekend. I was sitting in the theater thinking, "I see this love letter -- at least once a month."
Here's another one about distance ... when to move...
Q: Dear Meredith,
I've been in a wonderful relationship for the past year with the most caring, sweet, funny man I know. I've never been in a relationship that is so fun or ever felt so safe and at home with someone. But, (there's always a "but" ...) our relationship is conducted from a distance of 300 miles -- from Boston to Philadelphia. We've never gone more than three weeks without seeing each other. He typically drives up here and I take the bus to see him.
We've discussed plans to be closer together, mostly he has been looking for jobs up here because he has friends from college in the area (he went to school in MA). It makes more sense for him to come here in that respect, instead of me moving down and knowing only his family and friends (who I do love, by the way).
This potential move of his has been in the works since before our relationship began but he's found no promising job in his field and is unwilling to move without it (this I completely understand) and more recently he confessed to me that he was hesitant to leave his family and pursue such a big life change.
But how long can a relationship stand this kind of strain and distance with no white light at the end of the tunnel? We are both 24 and not even thinking about marriage but this is someone I'm definitely committed to long term. Is it crazy to want to move there and be closer to him? (Especially because this isn't necessarily leading to a proposal anytime soon?) Is it unreasonable to try and quell his fear of leaving his family behind to start a life in Boston? I am so happy with him but saying goodbye becomes more difficult every time. We both want to be closer together and even discussed living together but we've been stuck in our separate cities and I don't know what to do or say next.
– How Long Does Long-Distance Last?, Boston
A: It's possible to do long distance for a very long time -- but why should you try? In your case, there's no reason to wait this out.
I think that you should move. By the summer. He can continue to look for jobs up here. If it happens by then, great. If it doesn't, you'll move down there, which is sort of what he wants at this point anyway.
You don't need an engagement to move. It's not irresponsible to pick up and leave to have an experience with someone you love. And you're right -- this works for now, but it will only get more frustrating. Don't wait until the distance starts to kill what you have.
Focus on figuring out the details of the relocation. If you move, will you live together or will you get your own place? Are there any clubs you can join to make friends? Should you start looking for jobs down there right now? Commence planning.
So many couples are in long-distance relationships because they really have to be. You have the power to give yourself that light at the end of the tunnel. Go for it.
Readers? Is it wrong to move for someone you aren't necessarily going to marry? How long should she wait for him to look for jobs before she moves? Discuss.
– Meredith
Should I tell her that I snooped?
Please reserve Dec. 15 for a Love Letters/Brookline Booksmith event involving Missed Connections. Details to come.
Q: Dear Meredith,
Does my girlfriend still like her ex?
My girlfriend and I have been together for 18 months. Not only is this is longest relationship of my life (I'm in my mid-20s), but it is also the most fulfilling. We get along incredibly well, have tremendous chemistry, and our sex life is great.
One thing that concerned me early on in our relationship was the connection she maintained with her ex-boyfriend. They were living together for a year and then had a very emotional breakup (he cheated on her and she kicked him out). We started our relationship shortly after, so I'm not sure if she was able to get full closure on that relationship.
After a few months of dating, she was very honest with me about meeting up with her ex occasionally for coffee in order to "catch up." I tried being supportive and never voiced my concerns, but one night I looked at her cell phone and noticed that they were having open conversations about their relationship and where it all went wrong. This obviously made me very upset but I never said anything. I was worried that she would not forgive me for looking at her phone. I told her that I didn't want her meeting with him anymore for coffee and she obliged.
I thought this was the end of it, figured she just needed to lay her cards on the table and get closure, but it was not. Recently she left her email open on my computer and I ran a search for any dialogue between her and her ex. Needless to say, I found a lot of correspondence.
She has never written anything to him along the lines of "I still like you, I still have feelings for you, I think we should get back together, etc." But she does bring up a lot of nostalgic memories like "remember that time…" or "I heard this song and it made me think of you, etc." Also, I noticed that she is always the one reaching out to him or messaging him, not the other way around. It appears they have a conversation at least once a month and there is usually some reference to their previous relationship.
I love this girl with all of my heart and she expresses the same feelings toward me, but I just don't know what to make of this. Am I being a chump? Is it all innocent post-relationship behavior? Will she forgive me for invading her privacy? We are set to move in together in a few months so I need to figure out what to do as soon as possible. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
– Concerned Boyfriend, Boston
A: You're not a chump, CB. I believe that she's emailing her ex to figure out why he cheated, something she should have done before meeting you. But ... you can't control timing.
I don't always advocate that people disclose their snoops because sometimes, it's just not productive. But in your case, I want you to tell. If you don't tell her, you're going to keep looking at her personal messages whenever you get the chance. And you're going to move in with her with your fingers crossed for good luck -- instead of being confident about why she's chosen to live with you.
Sit her down and tell her that you saw some of her messages to her ex and that you're ashamed for looking. Explain that while you didn't see anything more than nostalgia and two people processing the loss of their relationship, it made you insecure -- and concerned about her. Apologize for crossing a boundary, and then tell her that you're so in love with her that you just want to make sure that she wants this, too. This isn't about not trusting her with the ex; it's about being sure that she's as excited about the move-in as you are.
Maybe she'll freak out and decide not to forgive you (for the record, that would be rather telling), but my hope is that she'll be empathetic. You won't be demanding that she stop the communication, you'll just be asking her whether she's moving in with you for the right reasons.
If you don't have this conversation, you're going to drive yourself crazy, so just get it over with. Remember: Don't accuse, stay positive, and remind her that you're disclosing all of this because you never want to snoop again -- and because you want to make sure that you're both excited about the next step.
Readers? Am I wrong here? Should he keep the snoop a secret? Are these harmless closure emails or is this ex a real threat? What's happening here and what should he do? Help.
– Meredith
Dating a guy who's still married
Hi. Here's a link for today's chat.
Q: Meredith,
I have been in a long-term, long-distance relationship with someone that I care for deeply. We are both mid-50s, have already had our families, have each had substantial therapy, and now have a loving relationship based on sincere open and honest communication.
The long-distance is not a problem -- we actually like it -- but he's still married after many years and that has become a problem for me. I got my divorce finalized a few years ago and am so relieved to have it over. He has not moved on his divorce, claiming he didn't want "to rock the boat" when he moved out. Now, years later, his not-yet-ex has calmed down but is still a loose cannon. He says being technically married doesn't or shouldn't matter. He feels guilty about hurting her feelings. I think he is intimidated by her and afraid for how she might take it out on their children, plus, he doesn’t want to pay for a divorce lawyer. If he is waiting for her to make the first move, she has no motivation. It's never going to happen. She has the big house and all the trappings of a suburban housewife without letting on to the rest of the world what is really happening.
Despite our pride in our honest, open relationship, he has had a brick wall about this subject until I made an issue of it recently. We have no plans to get married; we don't even plan to move to one coast or the other. I truly do not think he would ever go back to his wife. Every day when he tells me he loves me, in the back of my head I think, "... but not enough to get divorced." And every day when I tell him that I love him, in the back of my mind I think, "... but I can't completely because he's not really available."
I don't know if I'm off base here. My usual reaction would be to cut and run, but everything else is so good with him. In the spirit of our openness, I kept talking and did not give up and neither did he. He finally realized that he had to explain himself to me and at least told me of the guilt factor. If the guilt is so strong, why doesn't he make amends?
Am I making this into too big a deal? Does it matter? Is this a deal breaker? Or is it ill-fated? I'm tired of dating a married man.
– Limbo Lady, Boston
A: This is a big deal, LL. You're dating a married man and you don't like it. Your comfort should mean more to him than his fear of causing trouble with his ex.
I do think that it's a deal-breaker. If he wants you, he can't be with her -- not in real life, not on paper.
Demand the divorce. Tell him that if he doesn't know how to start the process, he should head back to his therapist (and yes, pay for a lawyer).
And ... let me throw just one more thing out there, if you don't mind. You say that the distance doesn’t bother you, but ... doesn't it? Just a little bit?
I'm all for personal space, and I condone long-distance relationships that are either short-term or in neighboring cities, but for the most part, it's best to be physically close to the one you love. This distance is allowing him to avoid his responsibilities and to lie to his ex. It's certainly allowing him to remain stagnant with you. I want you to ask yourself: What is the plan for the future? How should this relationship look in two years? Does the distance really work?
Be honest. You're allowed to ask for everything you want.
Readers? Should she demand the divorce? Why isn't he getting divorced? Is age relevant here? Should she walk? Does the divorce paperwork really matter? What about the distance? Help.
– Meredith
I'm still angry at my ex
Q: I am engaged to a wonderful man who is most certainly the love of my life. My problem is not my current relationship; it is anger about my past relationship.
My high school boyfriend was my first love. We broke up but continued to date after we went to college, finally ending our relationship and cutting off all contact during my sophomore year. I dated someone else semi-seriously, but when that ended I found myself thinking about my ex more and more. Even though we hadn't spoken in more than a year, I was convinced that I was still in love with him. I made it my mission to get him back after I graduated. We ran into each other "accidentally" (on purpose on my part) and made plans to see each other. After some liquid courage that evening, I confessed to him that I was in love with him and we slept together. He was leaving on a trip the next day but told me that he would be back soon and that we would see each other again. After not hearing from him for several weeks, I called, only to have a casual conversation in which he did not mention our night together, or anything about us seeing each other again. I was devastated.
About a month later, my fiance finally asked me out on a first date. I said yes, if only because I knew that I needed to move on, and because there had always been an attraction (I knew my fiance through friends). I fell head over heels in love with him, and years later, we are engaged to be married next year.
I've only see my ex three times since my current relationship began. They were all awkward run-ins that included a meal that he initiated when he was near my workplace. During that lunch, he told me that he still knew who I was -- because people don't change. The rage that I had worked hard to suppress came bubbling up again when I realized he had never mentioned that one night or apologized for how he acted.
I don't think that I have a working phone number for him now, and beyond an email address and a Facebook friendship I don't have any way of contacting him, but I am still royally ticked off. I feel like I was taken advantage of. I feel used. I feel like he did a bad thing and has never had the guts to apologize for it.
This is not a fear of missing out letter; I am certain that I am engaged to the right man for me. I just don't want to bring these negative feelings into my marriage. I want to find a way to get over them so that I never have to think about my ex again. Sometimes when I'm at the gym, I find myself imagining what I would say to him to get through an extra mile on the treadmill and I leave enraged and wishing for resolution. I don't want to be angry anymore. Should I contact him and tell him how wrong I think his actions were? Is there anything that I can do to get over my anger?
– Sick of Being Angry, New York
A: SOBA, I'm going to validate you and then scold you, so prepare yourself.
These angry feelings are normal, especially the gym/revenge stuff. We all have tell-off fantasies about exes, especially when we're working out. And many of us have recurring dreams about victory over an ex. Sometimes those dreams are silly and immature, but they're therapeutic.
Your ex sounds pretty awful. I have no idea why he'd call you for lunch and then sit there, smug. If he cared about you as a friend, he'd send his best wishes from afar. And you're right -- he should have apologized.
But he didn't. And thank goodness he didn't. Had he been a prince, you might not have gone out on that date with your fiance. Only good things have come from your heartbreak. Be thankful.
You're allowed to dislike your ex, but you're not allowed to contact him. He can't give you closure. You have to get it on your own by breaking up with him in your head. Instead of thinking of him as the guy who wronged you, label him as the guy you'd never date again. Allow this to be your choice, because it is.
And now for the scolding …
That one night of passion? You're accountable for it, too. Yes, he took advantage, but you orchestrated the whole night. You made sure that you guys ran into each other. You consumed "liquid courage" and then allowed yourself to have high expectations for no good reason. He shouldn't have slept with you and then disappeared, but you should have been clear about what you wanted. You didn't call him up, ask him out, and calmly tell him that you'd like to start dating again. You dived in with no plan. You have to let that night go.
Forgive yourself. And know that anger (within reason) is OK. Sometimes that leftover sadness and rage fuels and informs our best decisions. It certainly did in your case.
Readers? How can she let this go? Do we ever stop being angry at our exes? Should she call him to get closure? Discuss.
– Meredith
Dating with a chronic illness
Q: Hello Meredith (and all you lovely LL readers)!
I have been struggling with this situation for some time and I thought it might help if I gained some perspective.
I have been dealing with a very painful, chronic medical condition that has dominated my life for the past five years. Without going into the boring details I can tell you that this condition is not life threatening (for which I am very very grateful) but does require occasional rounds of IV drug therapy. I also deal with moderate to severe pain on a daily basis, which can be difficult at times but I am much better at handling it than I used to be. To say that this illness has changed my life would be an understatement. It has virtually transformed my outlook on life to be more positive and open to change.
Despite these personal epiphanies, I find I have a blind spot in regards to the dating world. During the first two years of my illness I dated a close friend. It got fairly serious but we weren't meant to be (and it didn't end well). Aside from our other issues, I knew then that my illness put a lot of pressure on the relationship and it was very difficult for my partner to deal with it. This knowledge has become a roadblock during my various dating attempts since my last relationship. When I meet someone I am interested in, I feel very guilty and overwhelmed by the idea that my illness is too much of a burden to ask this nice, unsuspecting guy to take on. I also begin to worry about how and when to disclose this personal information. It is difficult for the subject to come up organically in conversation, aside from asking "Have you heard any interesting medical stories lately? Well, I have this thing..." Usually, I become so stressed I immediately stop any attempt to pursue a relationship with said guy.
I know that I talk a big game about being positive and being open to change when deep down I am afraid. I have witnessed the impact of my health on the people I love and I want to spare others the pain of not being able to 'fix' my situation. My illness is always going to be in the picture, and there is no simple 'cure.' My fear of becoming a burden leads me to choose to be alone and it makes me sad. How should I approach dating in regards to my health? Should I stop dating altogether? I would like to be able to share myself with someone despite all my health-related baggage.
– Suffering From Chronic Fear in California
A: Don't stop dating, SFCFIC. And don't ever say, "Well, I have this thing." This doesn't have to be a solemn disclosure.
We're all difficult to date for one reason or another. Those who are always healthy might not appreciate life like you do. Maybe, unlike other people, you come to the table without mean parents, self-esteem issues, or a career that will take you away from your personal life. I mean, you're an emotionally present person who's self-sufficient despite your illness. You said it best: "It has virtually transformed my outlook on life to be more positive and open to change." I mean, how many people can actually say that about themselves?
I don't want to make you roll your eyes by telling you that everything's peachy and that everyone is open to dating someone with a chronic illness, but I do think that many people would be into you. There are some truly negative and healthy people out there who have rendered themselves undateable just because they have a bad attitude. You sound like a fantastic potential partner.
My advice? Re-frame the importance of this illness in your own brain and then disclose it like you would anything else. As in, "I like hiking, biking, hanging out with my friends, and I'm strangely resilient because I've learned to deal with a chronic illness. You'll never catch me whining about little things." All of that's true, right?
I get this question a lot from people with illnesses -- and from people who are recently divorced. They often assume that their bad experience is the first and only thing that prospective partners will notice about them. But I assure you that the rest of the world sees the entire package.
You're not asking anyone to "take you on." You're not looking to be someone's burden. You're asking nice people to hang out with you and date you. They should be so lucky.
Readers? How do you date with a chronic illness? Would you date someone who's dealing with this kind of thing all of the time? How does the LW bring up the problem? Discuss.
– Meredith
Treading water with distance
Q: Hey Meredith,
I met a woman at work over the summer who's a couple years older than me, and we really clicked. She's a great girl and we had a lot of fun together. Unfortunately, she's overseas for nearly a year for a job. It's been two months since she left and we still speak everyday via text, phone, or Skype. Things have gone smoother than I would have expected. I haven't had a great history with relationships so I tend to think more negatively than most. Anyway, I'm at a crossroads. I really care about her but it's difficult being so far away. It almost feels like I'm treading water.
I have made tentative plans to go overseas to visit her in the coming months. But I have a couple of questions for you and the readers out there. The vibe I get from her is always good. I think she has strong feelings for me, but she is constantly bringing up guy friends, one in particular. I have my guard up as it is, and we haven't known each other for long at all, so I do have a certain level of speculation about it. Should I feel this way? Is she treating this as a "We're going to do our own thing but still remain in touch" kinda relationship?
I just feel like I have this weight on my shoulders for no reason and I don't know if I'm personally bringing it on myself or is she helping. We've spoken about this before and she knows I'm a little uncomfortable about guy friends but I just feel like she throws it in my face in certain ways. Fact is, she's gone for a while and I shouldn't be worrying about things I can't control. Should I slow things down with her? Keep it like it is? Any advice would be appreciated.
– Overseas, San Diego
A: Is she treating this as a "We're going to do our own thing but still remain in touch" kinda relationship? Good question. Didn't you guys have a conversation about this before she left? Are you exclusive? What terms did you set? If you don't know, ask.
After you have the conversation, ride this out. See how you feel in three weeks ... and then again in three months. Reevaluate your situation when you buy the plane ticket to visit her.
You are treading water. But that's how it goes with summer love that becomes long distance in the fall. I know that you want answers right now, but you'll get them eventually. You'll either get sick of Skype or it'll become a way of life because you like her so much. You'll either freak out about the male friends or you'll learn that they're not a big deal. Basically, you'll find yourself committing to this or you'll hit a wall and let go.
All you can do is get some immediate answers about the rules and then let this play out. That's how it goes with these shaky, new, long-distance relationships. They have to run their course. Sorry.
Readers? Should he just end this? Am I right to say that this will just play itself out and that the answers will become clear? Should he be worried about male friends? Help.
– Meredith
My family thinks my boyfriend is ugly
Q: Dear Meredith,
I am in my early 30s, as is the man I am dating. We have been together for a little under a year. I am very secure in our relationship and respect and love him as he does me. I can definitely see a future with him. He treats me like gold and we do all kinds of fun stuff together. We get along great.
The problem is that my mother and sister think that I am selling myself short. The main argument that they have against me dating this man is that he is not attractive enough and that physically we don't appear to be a match. I can't even begin to explain how hurtful this is to me. I am honestly saying that there is nothing wrong with his appearance. He is an in-shape man who I find attractive. Also, I can't believe that the two women closest to me would react like this to someone I clearly care about and hope to have a future with. If he is to be my husband, isn't it plain awful that I already have their opinion in the back of my head?
I went out with my sister a few weeks ago and she said to my face, "How are you honestly attracted to him?” I was shocked. This isn't a scenario where I am dating some old man to support me; my boyfriend and I are on the same scale as far as education, income, and age.
My question is, how can I not let this get to me? What can I say to my mom and my sister to let them know that this is not acceptable to say to me? How can I make them see the guy that I see, the one who is caring and kind? I’m just so tired of their opinions …
– Beauty in the Eye of the Beholder, Boston
A: BITEOTB, your mother and sister are in the wrong (obviously). You're allowed to tell them how you feel and order them to stop making these comments.
Try: "You know what's unattractive? Two people making me feel bad for being in love with a wonderful man." Follow that up with: "I'd appreciate it if we didn't discuss my boyfriend’s appearance ever again. I think that he is lovely, and you should be happy that I'm happy. I am no longer interested in what you think about my partner's face."
Your boyfriend sounds awesome. And you're right -- beauty is subjective.
As far as making them understand why he's attractive, well, I just wouldn't worry about that. They don't have to think that he's cute. Many people are repulsed by the look of this guy. But I'd make out with that. So ... yeah. Forget the rest of the world. If you're happy and he treats you well, you're doing just fine. Let your family know that they've crossed a line, and then move on with your fantastic boyfriend.
Readers? Should she be as aggressive with her family as I've suggested? Anyone else have a good speech for her to give the sister and mother? Why would her family be so concerned about his appearance? Is there something else going on here? Has this ever happened to any of you?
– Meredith
Will I be his next 'crazy' ex?
Q: I've been in a relationship with "Kevin" for about two years. We're both in our late thirties/early forties. I love the time I spend with him. We travel a lot and spend time with my young child and his young kids. Our lives have merged nicely together over the last year or so -- family dinners with the kids, vacations, the whole nice family scene. So when Kevin asked my child and me to move in with him and his kids, it only seemed natural. He suggested we buy a house together.
But I'm having second thoughts. He says he's not ready to get married. His first marriage ended in a very bad divorce. I sense that he's gun-shy about doing it again. I get that. My divorce was no picnic either.
My big concern is that he'll never be "ready." It recently occurred to me that people don't stay around his life for very long. The people that have been around more than a few years are either colleagues -- or high school buddies who like to hang out at his really nice house. People stick around if there's a financial aspect to the relationship.
It's the people he knows on a purely social level that seem to disappear after a while -- neighbors, parents of his kids' friends, etc. If they just faded away naturally, I wouldn't be so concerned, but at least three former friends have told him off about something and angrily stopped talking to him -- all of them women. From the stories his kids tell, it seems that these people used to spend a lot of time with them – birthdays, weekend trips, etc. I've asked him what happened, and the explanation always centers on some minor disagreement. He can't understand why the person would "overreact" like they do and then he claims the person is "crazy." I haven't met any of these people and I don't know enough about the arguments to know if these people are crazy or not, but it's weird for it to happen over and over again.
I also have reservations about his divorce. He still refers to his ex-wife by a derogatory nickname -- even in front of the kids. He'll tell anyone who listens that the divorce was all her fault. He also has no explanation for why she left other than "she's crazy." Then he will go on and on about everything he did for her and how he couldn't understand why she wouldn't be happy. My husband left me, too, and it took me by surprise, but years later I have some insight into how our marriage broke down. Kevin has no insights like that at all. It's all very strange and uncomfortable and I'm not convinced he's over her.
This leads me to wonder if he's capable of a stable, long-term relationship with anyone, especially a woman. Our relationship seems wonderful. He and I and our kids have a nice life going here. Am I the next "crazy" person to leave in a huff or should I stop worrying about it? Should I move in with him and see how it goes or insist on a marriage proposal?
– Am I The Next Crazy One?, Massachusetts
A: My first piece of advice: Don't insist on a marriage proposal. You don't know if you want to marry him, so it seems weird to demand that he ask. You're allowed to take your time and answer these questions before you pressure him (or yourself) to move forward.
My questions for you: Does he make you feel safe? Does he listen to you when you have problems? Does he ever show signs of empathy for others? Does he only empathize when it suits him?
Based on what you've told us, my biggest issue with you guys moving in together is the name calling. You have every right to tell him that you don't want to combine households with a guy who calls his ex by a mean name. You want to set an example for your young child. No negative nicknames. That has to be a rule.
Make a list of other rules you keep in your own home. Can this man respect them? Does he understand them? Will he listen? If you're not so sure, it's not safe to buy a house with him. You don't want to get stuck.
Bring up the name calling and see how he responds. If he respects the complaint and can participate in a good discussion about how you want to frame your divorces in front of your children, that's a sign that he's not "crazy." If he barks at you for questioning him or accuses you of being nuts, that's a sign of something else.
Good luck. Ask your questions and make that list. I want you to feel safe and respected in your home.
Readers? Anyone call their ex names in front of kids? Is that ever OK? Should this LW be concerned about marriage? What should she do? Is it possible that all of the people who left him were crazy? Discuss.
– Meredith
Is my boyfriend gay?
A note from the front office (my bedroom): Please do your best to make your advice constructive. I've received a few complaints about commenters being too mean to the letter writers, and while I don't want to censor anyone, I want to make sure that we're actually giving advice and trying to help the letter writers improve their situations. For instance, "You blew it, you cheating dummy" isn't a helpful statement. "You blew it -- so move out of your house" is more like it.
Keep that in mind today. This is a sensitive letter and I don't want people's comments to disappear.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I haven't been myself for the last few weeks because I can't seem to get one thing off my mind: Is my boyfriend really gay? A few weeks ago, I had lunch with some coworkers and they mentioned that when they met my boyfriend a month or so before, they immediately got the "gay vibe." The moment they said that, my stomach tied up in knots because he does, in fact, have some feminine qualities about him. Since this has always been in the back of my mind and was now being brought to my attention, I decided to investigate and see what my closest friends thought. The majority of them said that he wasn't gay, whereas my family (parents and sisters) had their doubts. The strange thing here is that all of my gay friends have no doubt he is not gay.
At this point, I probably sound like a horrible person with all my investigating, but because I also had doubts before, I had to find out the answer. So, I decided to be honest and have a talk with my boyfriend. He was of course offended and thought it was weird that I would even bring this conversation up, but I had to be honest with him. I explained to him what happened at lunch -- that I had investigated and told him my results -- and then I explained to him that although he said he isn't gay, I just worry that maybe he doesn't know yet. He reassured me that this is not the case.
I love him dearly and we have an amazing relationship (our sex life is even great). One of the reasons we have a great relationship is because we are open and honest with each other. I am not going to say he wasn't upset with me, but it also wasn't something he hadn't heard before. The reason I am writing this letter is because toward the end of the conversation, he mentioned that an ex-girlfriend had initiated the same conversation. To me, that screamed "red flag." All of my doubts and worries had cleared when he told me himself that he wasn't gay, but when I found out that this exact situation played out before, I began to worry again.
I guess I am just wondering how to move on from this. I love my gay friends dearly, but I am not sexually attracted to feminine qualities in a man. I want to get all of this gay talk out of my mind because I never noticed it as much before and the relationship I have with him is wonderful in all other aspects.
– Boston Worrier
A: BW, you are very lucky that your boyfriend didn't break up with you the minute you told him about your investigation. That's the kind of disclosure that gets you dumped. Be thankful that he heard you out without walking in the other direction.
The bottom line here is that your sex life is great, which means that your boyfriend is attracted to you. And you're a woman, which means your boyfriend likes girls. That conversation he had with his ex, it isn't a red flag. It just means that he's been asked the same question a few times. No biggie.
I'm sure that he does exhibit some characteristics that are traditionally and stereotypically feminine -- we all do -- so you have to decide whether that's something you can live with. If you don't like that he behaves a certain way, that's about you, not him. No need to punish him or make him feel bad about himself. No need to tell him that he's gay and doesn't know it. Just be honest about your own needs and make decisions accordingly.
Please understand that if you do find the most traditionally masculine man on the planet, he might not treat you as well as your boyfriend does. And he might not be able to make you as happy in the bedroom.
If you're attracted to your boyfriend and you love spending time with him, stop sweating this and tell him that you're dropping the issue. Apologize for implying to him that your friends understand his sexual identity better than he does, and validate how wonderful he is, in general.
Again, this is about you and what you like. You must figure out what you want without making it seem like he's done something wrong.
Readers? How can they bounce back from her investigation? Is she just not attracted to him? Is the conversation he had with his ex really a read flag? Discuss.
– Meredith
How do I say no?
Q: Hi Mere,
The short summary of my question is: How do I indicate to a lady friend that I'm no longer interested in her? My situation is complicated because (a) I previously did indicate that I had an interest in her but was unavailable (I was responding to her asking me out); and (b) the way she's acting right now is why I'm no longer interested. She seems to be making bad life choices.
The background: We worked together and became friends. We're in our 40s and have similar interests. She is divorced.
When she first expressed an interest in me, it was probably because I was showing new signs that I was single. I was flattered that she showed interest in me and told her so, but explained that I was still married and would be for a while for many reasons. I feel I made the mistake of agreeing with her assessment that "it was too bad, because we both seemed very compatible."
We remained friends and while we continued to talk, I didn't notice anything different or troubling about our interactions. I also got the impression that she had started to see someone -- and I was happy for her. Meanwhile, I did start my divorce proceedings and moved away from my wife.
The potential complication is that a mutual friend recently informed me that my friend is wondering what she should do about her current guy now that I'm "available." I'm thinking "Nice ... but wow, what if I was in his shoes? That wouldn't be nice.” This also tells me that another invitation from her is headed my way.
To complicate this, I've learned from friends that they really feel I ought to stay as far away from her as I can. Apparently, she has dated a married man we both know. This has since been confirmed to me.
My assessment is that this woman might be going through a big rebound phase. I think that she'll come back to earth eventually and be somewhat the same person I liked as a friend -- and maybe a potential partner. I can take the high road and say, "I've met someone else, sorry...," which is a downright lie. Or I can tell the truth and say, "I was very concerned seeing you date inappropriate people and that's just not the type of person I'd like to start a new relationship with."
So have at it advice givers. Give me some food for thought. I'll make up my own mind, but how would "you" handle this if you were in my shoes and you received a re-invitation?
– How do I handle this?, Massachusetts
A: HDIHT, you don't have to initiate a conversation with her about this. If she asks you out, you can decline. You can explain to her that you're just in different places in life (that's the truth, by the way). She's been out of her marriage and dating for a while. Meanwhile, you're just figuring this stuff out. You'd rather be her friend. No need to lie or get nasty.
You mention that she's rebounding and might be a good partner down the road. I'm not so sure you're right. She slept with a married person, and that person is someone you know. That mess would follow you around.
My advice is to set some boundaries with her and to start expanding your circle of friends. Your world is too small right now. You need new faces, new experiences. Once you start seeking that stuff out, everyone in your world -- including this woman – will get the hint.
Readers? Are there nonverbal ways he can tell her that he doesn’t want to date her? Will she be a better partner later? Does she deserve a shot? Help.
– Meredith
What if I can't commit?
Early post. Enjoy, morning people.
Q: Meredith,
Three months ago I reconnected with a wonderful man I had met once over a year ago at my friend's party. At the time, neither of us thought twice about the other as he was in a relationship and I (a woman) was dating mostly women. His past relationships tend to last years while mine do not see all four seasons. I am 26 and he is 2 years older.
Within a month of us going out this summer, we became official. We see each other a few times a week and I have a key to his apartment. We work out together, share similar if not the same interests, and have a future trip planned.
He is cute, extremely intelligent, and caring. We get along great. I trust him. He makes me feel safe. He treats me incredibly well. He has said "I love you" and I said it back meaning it, but I'm holding back a bit as this is moving very fast. There is also no doubt in my mind that he probably would end up asking me to marry him in a year or two as he always includes me in his talks of the future.
But... by my nature, I have always wondered if the grass is greener on the other side no matter who I am with. No, I have never cheated. I am worried about becoming bored, missing my single life (have been single for the past 3 years) or falling out of love with him as I see most people in my generation are, and getting divorced. I want thrill and excitement yet love and security. It's not my immaturity; it's just how I've always been. I need stimulation and excitement but not all of the time.
How do I know if he is the right man? Are some people never 100% ready to settle down? I've never imagined myself marrying anyone else I've dated before but I can see a future with him.
Thank you.
– Will I Settle Down?, Massachusetts
A: Some people can't settle down. Some people settle down too quickly. But I'm not worried about you or your guy. You're just two pretty average people in your 20s. Many people just aren't capable of having a serious, multi-year relationship in their early 20s because they don't have any interest or need for constant support and partnership. Those who do manage to have a long relationship while they're young are simply finding themselves in their own way. It doesn't mean that they're in a rush to get married.
The fact that you're drawn to this guy for all the right reasons (love, respect, things to look forward to) suggests that your needs are changing and that you might be open to keeping somebody around. Never underestimate your ability to evolve. In a year or so, you might have no real interest in greener grass, and he might be happy to take his time.
It's only been a few months. No need to make guesses about whether he'll propose in a year and whether you'll want to say yes. It's too early to worry so much.
Readers? Should she be concerned about what happens in a year or two? What's all this about her generation? Discuss.
– Meredith
Afraid of the exclusivity talk
Q: Dear Meredith,
Long story short, all of my relationships over the past year have been very intense for 1-3 months and then didn't work out for various reasons beyond my control (one guy was in love with another friend, another worked 70-hour weeks with no time for a relationship, and another moved away for the summer.)
Fast forward to the present. I've met a really great guy. We've been dating for almost 3 months and I'm getting paranoid about exclusivity. It seems like whenever exclusivity has been brought up in my other relationships, those relationships have come to an abrupt halt. Since I really like this guy and don't want to see things end, I've just avoided the whole conversation. It's kind of a one-sided exclusivity. I haven't been seeing anyone else and would really like it if he weren't either, but am just too afraid to bring it up.
Is this conversation something that a girl is supposed to start? Plus, just in general, is three months too early to bring up exclusivity? Too late? I know everyone moves at their own pace, but there's gotta be a mean estimate out their right?
The letter writer sent an additional note a few days ago. She explained that she did some digging about his past and found out through a mutual friend that her maybe-exclusive boyfriend got out of a long relationship shortly before asking her out. She says: The weekend after finding out this tidbit of info, he went out of state to visit a friend from college, who is a girl (a very sweet girl who I met at a party a month or so back). I was a bit hurt so I didn't contact him that weekend -- but he actively texted me with vague hints that he was wondering what I was up to without him. I'm trying to not be that jealous, needy girl and give him his space so that he can tell me what's going on in his own time. But simultaneously, I don't want to be the girl on the side if he's still seeing his ex (which I may be jumping to conclusions about -- this girl could really just be a friend). I can't let him know how I know about his relationship past (creepy), but at the same time it's just making this conversation about what are we doing after three months of dating all that more complicated.
Thanks for the help.
– Afraid of THE conversation, Massachusetts
A: You're jumping to conclusions, AOTC. Big time. I can't promise you that he's not seeing other people, but do you really think that he introduced you to one of his friends without telling you that she's his ex? And that he went to visit her because he's still seeing her … and that he texted you while he was there?
That doesn't sound right. It sounds like he visited a friend. But that's not really the issue here, is it?
You've been burned several times at the three-month marker, so you have every reason to be a little bit crazy about what happens next. But please, don't make it worse. Fight this with sanity. Tell this guy, calmly, that you're not dating anyone else and that you're really enjoying getting to know him. Tell him that you don't know what you want in the future but that you're wondering about exclusivity. You don't want to rush things, but you want to talk about what's happening.
It's not too early, it's not too late, and discussions about exclusivity have nothing to do with gender. You're dating someone who has been in a long relationship. He understands all of this.
No more digging around about his past (just ask). No more ignoring him because he goes away for the weekend (that didn't help anyone).
Take a deep breath, relax, and stop using your imagination to make things look worse. For all you know, a conversation about exclusivity could lead to something great.
Readers? What happens at three months? Should she bring up exclusivity? Is it weird that she doesn't know more about his past -- from him? Discuss.
– Meredith
I want to wait
Q: Dear Meredith,
Love the blog, love you, love the readers. However, I noticed there was a shortage of letters about gay people for whatever reason, so I decided to write in about my situation and try to bump up the stats for Love Letters. Well that, and I also need some advice.
After a rough breakup last year and then several months of not dating, I felt like it was time for me to get back out there and try to meet some new people. I went to Meetup events, created an online dating profile, kept an open mind about being fixed up by friends, the whole nine yards. I met some really interesting people and eventually I started going on dates. Some of them were trainwrecks, but some of them have been great.
I met one of the great ones three weeks ago. He's funny, cute, smart, and overall a really nice guy. Since we clicked right off the bat, we have gotten together a handful of times and have had a few sleepovers. When we crashed at each other’s places, even though I am attracted to him, I knew in my mind that I wasn't going to have sex with him just yet. However this past weekend, he stayed over and we did have some late night grilled cheese (I am a guy after all ...). He definitely tried to take things further, but I resisted. When he asked if everything was OK, I basically said, "I like to get to know someone before I have sex with him," which elicited a slightly surprised reaction from my date.
My question is this: Is it really such an outlandish concept to want to get to know someone before you have sex with them these days? Don't get me wrong -- I have been dating for over ten years now and I definitely went through the phase where I threw around the term "date" very liberally, as many of these were clearly one night stands. But at this point in my life (I'm 29), I feel like I want to find out if this person has the potential to be in a relationship with me before we just dive right in. And I don't mean waiting three months; I'm talking about maybe another two or three weeks while we are still getting to know each other. I don't think that is unreasonable, but maybe I am in the minority here. How, if at all, do you think I should bring this up to him? I don't want to make a big dramatic scene about this. I just think it would be better to have a brief but honest chat about what is going on rather than sending mixed signals or making him confused.
Any advice from you and the readers will be much appreciated. Thanks!
– Wanting a Bit More Time, Boston
A: Bring this up with your guy -- but very, very casually. Like you said, you don't want to make a big dramatic scene.
Just say, "Hey -- I hope I'm not confusing you with the bedroom stuff. I'm very into what we're doing here, but I don't want to rush things."
Honestly, how can anyone argue with that?
My guess is that his surprised reaction had to do with being caught up in the moment. For some people, sleepovers mean a specific thing so it's always best to make your intentions clear. He might have also been a bit hurt. Your reason for not having sex with him was that you didn't know him well enough. Maybe he feels like he already knows you. Make sure he understands that you're just as psyched as he is about continuing this.
Waiting for good things isn't outlandish at all. Keep your own pace. Just make sure that if you really like a guy, he knows it. There's a difference between "I'm not ready" and "You've been rejected."
Readers? How do you say, "Let's wait awhile?" How do you sleep over without sleeping over? Help.
– Meredith
Can we get back together?
Q: Dear Meredith,
I just spent the weekend with a wonderful man. We had a great time together -- kayaking, beer tasting, festival-attending, and hanging out with friends. We can talk about anything or nothing, we enjoy similar activities, he is a social creature and gets along with anyone (which is a huge plus for me), and we're very attracted to each other.
The catch? We've already dated. For five years, almost entirely long-distance (we went to different colleges). And he broke up with me because of the distance and he was tired of the commitment.
It's been over three years since the break-up and we've kept in touch. I've dated and he's dated but we're both single right now. A few months ago we chatted and he mentioned wanting to visit me (he lives in another city) and we made the plans.
My conundrum is this: He's an amazing person and does have many of the qualities I'm looking for in a man. For the past few months I've been thinking about him and wondering what we could be if we got back together.
There are still sticking points: He's Catholic and I'm not religious, he used to be a little selfish but that may have changed, he used to be a bit of a commitment-phobe but again, that may have changed. And he lives in this other city.
Am I simply experiencing some serious FOMO? Am I just imagining what he could be? Is there reason to find out what might be there? I have a lot of friends in his city right now and I'm having a very difficult time finding a job in the Boston area. Moving might be an option, but is this a good reason?
– Wondering, Somerville
A: This has nothing to do with FOMO (fear of missing out). This is about you having feelings for an ex whose intentions are unclear. You miss him and never got over him. Now you're rediscovering each other. That's fine ... but you can't sit around wondering about it for too long. And you can't pretend that a weekend vacation is real life. Do you guys want to talk to each other on a random Wednesday? Would the weekend have been as fun if you hadn't packed it with activities?
My advice is to tell him what's going on in your head. He'll either look nervous and excited or he'll say, "Woah, woah. It was just a weekend."
After you ask him some questions, ask a few of yourself. Your strong interest in the ex and your thoughts about the move suggest that you're just not thrilled with your place in life right now. If he wasn't in the picture, would you be thinking about moving anyway? Are you feeling stagnant? Where is your dream job?
I want you to figure out some ways to improve your situation on your terms. Your ex seems to represent a better and more exciting life, in general. Figure out what you want and how you can work toward that life with or without him. Then, if he (or someone else) comes along for the ride, it's just a bonus.
Readers? Am I right to say that the ex represents an escape from stagnancy? If he's selfish and afraid of commitment will he be honest with her about what he wants? Should she consider moving either way if she's unhappy here? What are his intentions? Should she tell him what she's thinking? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm in an open relationship and I have a crush
This seems like a good Friday letter, yes?
And if you check back in a few, I'm posting a bonus letter today.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I have a quandary. I'm happily engaged to my best friend and we've been together for years. We've had our ups and downs, and we just went through one of those downs, but we're figuring things out. We've both made a commitment and we're not leaving. We've agreed to try an open relationship. It's not about wanting to cheat. It's about realizing that there are some things he can't give me, not because he hasn't tried, or doesn't want to, but just because of his personality and the way he is. It's not his fault but I realized I need something else, too, hence open relationship. Nothing has happened with anyone as this mutual decision is only a week or so old. So what's my problem?
For the last year and a half I've been talking to a guy friend online. His hours are closer to mine (my guy and I have different work hours), he's been a really good source of support, and we've both been there for each other. We have not met face to face, but, you guessed it, I've got feelings for him. I have no idea if he sees me as anything more than a friend. He's far away in another state and we usually communicate by IM. He's single, but he seems to have fallen for a gal who's a friend of a friend that lives across the country. She's nice but they've agreed to take things slow and if someone else comes along in the meantime not to wait for each other. I'm his friend so I'm trying to be supportive but having feelings for him and not being able to say anything is tearing me up inside. This guy deserves to be happy.
My guy knows how I feel about this guy, but he has asked me not to go after him, as he believes this guy is very much like him and feels that if I'm looking for something different I not go for someone similar to him. I see his point, but the feelings are still there.
Do I say something? Do I keep my mouth shut and forget my feelings, be the nice friend and just deal with it by writing emo poetry (I could start an emo band on the volume of stuff I've already written)? Do I just call a time out on my relationship until I figure out? I live with my guy and we've been together for 5 years so it's not so easy to just walk away. I just want a different perspective that isn't in my head or from a single friend. Please help. Thank you.
– Emo Poetry Gal, Boston
A: You're engaged to your good friend, EPG. You are not engaged to someone you want to marry.
End this. Please. There's no need for your fiancé to watch you feel in love with other people. Call this "open relationship" what it is -- the final stage of a long romance.
Once you move on from the whole thing (yes, for logistical reasons that might take a while), start looking to date single people who live nearby. Maybe this online guy secretly loves you, but do you really want to pursue someone you don't see ... who wants to date someone else?
I know that you don't want to be single, but I guarantee you, if you walk away from all of these guys, your emo poems will be better than ever. More importantly, you'll be able to figure out why you keep attaching yourself to people who have given you a way out.
Readers? Can you fix this mess? Help.
– Meredith
Picking up a blogger
When I first read this letter, I assumed it was about me.
Because wouldn't you?
Well, it's not about me, which makes it a real question, so let's help. If you are a blogger, please tell us what you'd want to hear.
(Yes, my ego has recovered.)
Q: Hello Meredith,
I'm a 29 year old guy, single for about a year, gainfully employed and getting a Master's degree part-time. I consider myself a pretty good catch, but obviously I might be a bit biased.
I recently stumbled upon the blog of a Boston girl. Not only is she absolutely stunning, but we seem to have very similar sense of humors and interests. To top it all off, she is super intelligent, which I readily admit is a huge turn on for me.
I have spent the past few days browsing her old postings (which only make her more attractive) and I can't imagine she has any problem finding guys who would fall at her feet. I consider myself a pretty creative person but find myself drawing a total blank as to how not to come across as the "creepy reader." What can I do/say in this situation?
– Admiring the Blogger from Afar, Boston
A: The first thing I want you to do is figure out whether you really want to know what this woman is like in real life. If your crush is on a fantasy version of her that you've created based on what she writes, you're basically in love with a unicorn. Sometimes letting a unicorn remain a unicorn is good for the soul. Know that if you actually get to date this unicorn, she might turn out to be a horse with a horn glued to her head. Does that make sense?
If you want to risk turning a unicorn into a horse, here's my advice:
1. Make yourself Google-able. Don't send an email from a random address without your first and last name. Make it easy for her to look you up so that she can see that you're not a weirdo. You can even message her on Facebook so that she sees your profile (assuming that you're on Facebook).
2. Be specific about why her writing appeals to you. Don't just say, "You’re super smart on your blog." Say, "I love that time you advised a woman to walk away from a guy who impregnated some random one-night stand." (Yeah, yeah, I know we're not talking about me. I'm just giving you an example.)
3. Send one note and leave it at that. Be nice. Succinct. Not too clever. Then let it go. If she writes back, feel free to ask her a question to keep the conversation going, but don't get too aggressive.
4. Know that writing to someone on a blog is no different than hitting on someone at a bar or party. You like what you see. You get good vibes. You don't know whether the person is even single. But ... it's worth a shot. It's no creepier than making a pass in real life.
Please keep me posted. I want to know what happens.
Everyone? Thoughts?
– Meredith
His friend hates me
Q: Hello Meredith and fellow LL devotees,
I'm desperate for your advice, or at the very least, a reality check. Help a girl out.
I am in my mid-20s and have been in a wonderful, loving relationship for about a year and a half. (I always hate letters that start out like this -- my initial reaction is always something along the lines of "so shut up and be happy!") My boyfriend is in his early 30s and is everything I have ever wanted or looked for, and I'll spare you the nauseating list, but it stretches long and far. It has not always been smooth sailing for us, and we've had to navigate some tricky situations -- he has a child from a previous relationship and is a very involved father -- but we always seem to find a way around the difficulties. We both truly believe we were meant to find one another, and we are better people with each other than without.
The problem is not my boyfriend, but his female friend. She works with my boyfriend and was around long before I came into the picture. They carpool, she helps with his son, and she is a regular fixture in both of their lives. Although they do not usually socialize on weekends, she is invited to birthday parties and other family events, and on a couple of occasions she has joined us out with friends or to eat. All of this is A-OK in my book.
Where I begin to have an issue is her feelings toward me. It was made clear to me before I met this woman that she has long carried an unrequited torch for my boyfriend. When he broke up with his child's mother, this woman made a not-so-subtle effort to start dating him. He always politely refused her invitations for one-on-one socializing, and soon after, he and I met and began dating. The first few times I met her last summer she was cold, snide, condescending -- all of which I expected from a woman scorned. I realized it would take her a bit of time to get over the slight and that eventually she might come around.
Unfortunately their carpooling routine seems to have prevented her from getting over anything. She still texts my boyfriend constantly, even on weekends. She is still very cold to me, even going so far as to be upset with my boyfriend for not "warning" her that I would be stopping by his house when she was still hanging around after carpooling one afternoon. She said she was "caught off guard" -- well, considering that my boyfriend lives here, and I am his girlfriend, I find that to be a tad ridiculous and presumptuous on her part.
This has become a big problem recently, as my boyfriend just purchased a new home. I assisted him financially with the purchase and after his child gets settled in the new house, the intention is to have me move in with them. My name is not legally on the mortgage, but this was very much a joint endeavor emotionally. We see ourselves in this house for many years to come and expect my name to go on the legal paperwork a few years down the road. This woman has been around to help my boyfriend with the move, and despite my deep involvement with the house, she continues to request to receive a "heads up" from my boyfriend when I will be there. Also, after hearing me talk about "our house," she expressed to him via text message (no snooping -- we are very open with our phones and I saw her message) that she is concerned that I'm under the impression that it's my house too and started asking if I was planning on moving any of my stuff in. In my opinion, none of the above is her business. But my boyfriend's response was measured -- he told her that it is legally his house, but that since I am his girlfriend, that makes it partly mine as well. Which is true, but his response felt like a tiptoe around her attacks rather than the rebuttal I was hoping he'd give.
Mere, is it wrong to expect my boyfriend to put an end to her hater parade once and for all? Am I being unrealistic or catty? I've asked my boyfriend to say something directly, but he feels too badly about "breaking her heart" and thinks I should just have some sympathy for her and let it go. She is no threat to our relationship, but I'm uncomfortable and angry still.
Gah. I'm baffled.
– She Can't Stop Being A Hater, CT
A: You're right, SCSBAH. You're right about everything. Your boyfriend must set boundaries with this woman. If he doesn't, he's disrespecting your relationship and leading her on. I mean, how does he think this is going to play out? This situation won't fix itself.
She shouldn't be texting him all weekend. She shouldn't be around so much. She shouldn't be intimating you. And you shouldn't be expected to defend yourself to some woman who wishes you were out of the picture.
My guess is that your boyfriend doesn't want to be the bad guy and that he's trying to avoid alienating a woman who's been a help when it comes to single parenting. He's probably conflict averse in general after all he's been through. He's used to just saying what he needs to say to keep as many people as happy as possible. But it's time for some honesty. You're moving in and this woman deserves to know.
Tell your boyfriend that it's time to start disclosing to friends and family that you're preparing for cohabitation -- and that the house belongs to both of you. That should silence this woman -- or send her over the edge. Either way, there will be a change.
I don't think your boyfriend is capable of having a real sit-down with this woman about her bad attitude, but telling her the stuff about the house should send her all the right messages. Make that disclosure your one demand. For now. One demand isn't overwhelming.
Readers? I know the boyfriend is in the wrong, but should the LW have more empathy for this woman? Why isn't he saying what he needs to say? Will a disclosure about the house change things? Thoughts about the house and her contribution? Discuss.
– Meredith
It worked out for Gisele ...
Q: Dear Meredith,
I am reeling emotionally from what appears to be the end of what could have been a great relationship.
I met this great guy, Kenneth, six months ago. A mutual friend set us up. I was attracted to him instantly. None of that, "Should I go out on a second or third date to see if there's chemistry?" There was chemistry for both us. I'm in my mid-30s. He just turned 40.
We started dating and things were going very well. He was busy with his job (which involves a lot of travel) so we didn't see each other much. He told me up front that he was looking to date and to get serious but that his job took priority. I've always been attracted to men with unusual jobs. I wasn't fazed by his career at all.
About a month ago, 10 days went by without a phone call or email from Kenneth. I finally sent him an email asking if things were okay. I was really anxious when I didn't immediately hear back from him. He was always good about emailing me frequently.
Well, I heard back from him a few days later and it wasn't anything I had ever expected. He said he had just found out a week ago that a girl he had slept with a month before meeting me was pregnant with his child -- and keeping the baby. What's worse is that she waited months to tell him, so (in her words, he says) he wouldn't pressure her into terminating the pregnancy.
I was sick at this news, and then sicker when he told me he had his "hands full" and couldn't see me anymore. One expects to get dumped from time to time but not like this.
(As an aside, I know he didn't cheat on me. After our first date he was out of the country for weeks.)
While I get that Kenneth has had a huge life change, I can't help but feel like I still have a place his life and him in mine. Am I crazy to think this? It was unfair of him to shut me out. Our budding relationship was full of great chemistry, laughter, deep conversation. In other words, it felt right to me.
I need to know: Can our relationship recover? He is going to be a new father in a few months with a woman he basically barely knows. Where do I fit in? Do I fit in? If I don't fit in, how does one recover from a baby mama drama such as this? Am I kidding myself? Either way, what do I now?
– This Worked Out for Gisele, Right?, Wrentham
A: It worked out for Gisele, TWOFGR, because Tom Brady said to her (and I'm guessing here), "Gi Gi, I just found out that my ex is having my child. But I've fallen in love with you and I hope that you don't go anywhere. Despite this big life change and my hectic schedule as a professional athlete, I'd like to continue this relationship."
Your guy didn't say that to you. He didn't ask you to consider sticking around. (And I'm assuming that you volunteered, right?)
I know you don't want to hear this, but it's probably best that he walked away. Yes, he's great and there was chemistry, but do you really want to stay in a relationship with someone who'll put you third? The baby will become his new priority. Then the job. Then ... eventually ... you. Can you commit to that kind of life after just a few months of dating?
If Gisele, Tom, and Bridget were on Love Letters today, they'd probably tell you that while it all worked out for them, it hasn't always been easy. I'm sure they'd tell you that their success as a family depends on the empathy, patience, and responsibility of three busy adults who want to do right by their partners and children. Right now, you're the only one in your triangle who wants this to work for everyone.
Kenneth didn't come to you with his news to have a respectful discussion. He waited 10 days while you stewed and then made all of the decisions himself. Gisele wouldn't put up with that. You can start getting over this drama by allowing yourself to be ticked off.
Readers? Should she tell him that she wants to try this? Should that request come from him? Is this worth pursuing? What's happening here? Discuss.
– Meredith
She moved on after a month
Q: Hi Meredith,
My girlfriend of 2.5 years and I recently broke up. We broke up for what seemed like very good reasons. We didn't get to see each other at all, we were in different places in our lives, etc. We parted ways on good terms and I felt great about it ... at the time.
Now that we've been apart for a month, I've had some new perspective. One of the reasons we broke up was that she refused to put any effort into our relationship. We didn't spend time together because she would only hang out when it was convenient for her. I spent every weekend at her place with her friends and she would never spend time with mine.
I also recently went through a severe health scare in my family, which took up a lot of my time. The only way I was going to get to see her during this ordeal was if she went out of her way to visit me. She didn't.
Flash forward to last week and I find out she is dating one of her "close guy friends." After one month! On top of that, her friends were saying things like "Finally!" and "It's about time!" on her Facebook wall. The short turnaround is what ultimately made all of this anger bubble to the surface.
I'm angry, Meredith. I'm angry about our one-sided relationship, I'm angry that she wasn't there for me during a time of need, and I'm angry that her friends, who I thought were mine as well, were smiling to my face while rooting for us to break up so that she could be with someone else.
My question is: How do I discuss this with her without it dissolving into a giant mess? She was a huge part of my life for a long time and I don't believe in keeping emotions like this inside. Any help you and the Love Letters community can give me on this would be most appreciated.
– Lost in Cambridge
A: The first thing to know, LIC, is that her friends probably liked you and cared about you a lot. My guess is that they wanted her to break up with you because she wasn't treating you well. They're probably saying "Finally!" because she's in a relationship that she's not phoning in. They probably thought you deserved better.
You have every right to be angry, but please know that nothing has changed since the breakup. You ended things because she wasn't into your relationship enough to make it work. That's still the case.
I know you're desperate to tell her how you feel, but what will that accomplish right now? There's no way for her to undo this. All you'll get is the temporary relief that comes with disclosure -- and maybe an apology. But will that really make you feel better?
My advice is to "defriend" her entire community. I love the internet, but not after a breakup. You're supposed to be allowed to date a new guy without your ex finding out. You're supposed to have the freedom to mourn the loss of a relationship without finding pictures of your ex's new relationship online. Protect yourself by disconnecting.
After that, make a list of people who make you feel happy and safe -- the friends and family members who make you laugh. Spend time with those people. Rant to them about your ex. Ask them to take you to the movies.
Wait a few weeks and then decide whether it'll really make you feel better to tell your ex that you're angry. Because again, I'm not so sure that you'll get anything out of telling her how you feel, at least not right now. Your real priority should be surrounding yourself with people who make you feel good, online and in real life. Focus on that.
Readers? Should he tell her how he feels about her moving on so quickly? What will he gain from disclosure? Should he be furious about her moving on? Thoughts about her friends and their reaction on Facebook? Help.
– Meredith
What we have is a failure to communicate
Q: Dear Meredith,
My boyfriend is fun, highly intelligent, honest, witty, and he makes me laugh. He's also ambitious, sexy, and extremely confident.
Someone once said to me, "It seems like the things you don't like about him are also the things that you love about him." That might be true. He works all the time. And I mean ALL the time. I love it because it makes him happy. But sometimes I feel as though he could make more time for me when he does get a second. Sometimes he makes time for family and friends and then fits me in in the time that's left over. He's not great at making plans ahead of time and after over a year and half of being together, I think there's a tendency to take each other's presence for granted. Another double-edged trait is his confidence. Confidence is a very attractive quality. Yet there are times when it comes off as entitlement or narcissism.
But these aren't that "one big thing" that I'm writing to you about. The major problem is that our communication is absolutely terrible. When he is upset about something or needs to talk to me about something he's uncomfortable with, etc., he has no qualms about bringing it up in a nice, calm, direct and respectful way. But whenever I have an issue or feel a certain way about something he's doing, if I bring it up, he immediately becomes reactive, emotional, closed off, defensive and, to be frank, intimidating. It's not in my nature to be nasty, yell, etc. That behavior also accomplishes nothing. I feel as though I bring up things in the same nice manner that he does. But he doesn't validate my feelings. I seem to always end up frustrated, questioning myself and apologizing to him after bringing up something that bothers me, which makes no sense. I think it has really hurt my self-esteem lately as well as my own confidence, and this can only have the ripple effect of hurting our relationship more. If you feel down about yourself, how can someone else feel great about you?
To have lasted this long with such a big and, to me, hurtful, issue may come as a surprise. But I honestly never noticed it until a few months ago. I guess the longer you're with someone, the more issues come up that you'll have to deal with. I simply have no idea how to approach him about it for the aforementioned reasons. How can I talk to him in a way that makes him hear me? Any advice helps!
– Frustrated in Phoenix
A: FIP, I want you to know that you're not inferior to your boyfriend. You mention a loss of self-esteem, and I sense that from your letter. Yeah, your boyfriend is a cool, successful guy with a great life, but you're pretty awesome, too. You're empathetic, flexible, thoughtful, and kind. He's lucky to be with you. Please remember that.
Some people just don't know how to talk about feelings without getting defensive. It might be worth spelling out what you need from him before you tell him what's wrong. As in, "I’ve been feeling bad about a few things. I'm going to tell you what they are, but I'm asking you to just consider what I have to say without defending yourself. I'm not accusing you, I just want to let you know how I feel and figure out if there's anything we can do about it." You can also say something like, "When I tell you I feel bad or insecure, sometimes it just means that I need reassurance and a hug. Sometimes it just means that I need your attention."
I also have to wonder whether these conversations would be healthier in writing. Some people fly off the handle when they're approached about an issue. But with email, there's time to let the feelings sink in. Responses have to be thought out and typed up. Sometimes people write things that they'd never say out loud.
Those are my ideas – giving specific instructions and/or writing it all down. If those ideas don't work, I want you to really think about whether you can continue to deal with this. Yes, the fighting thing is huge, but the other problem -- the time problem -- is also a biggie.
You guys have stuff to work out. If he can't work with you -- with love -- to get past these issues, nothing will get better. You're allowed to ask for more.
Readers? How do you teach a defensive person to have a discussion without getting defensive? What about the time issue? Can these problems be fixed? Anyone dating a confident, defensive fighter? Help.
– Meredith
My new boyfriend is looking for work
Thanks to those who entered the "Next Fall" contest. I just posted some ticket info on Twitter.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I'm a long-time lurker who hasn't been in many relationships because of my career. A few months ago, I unexpectedly fell for someone I absolutely adore. He is good to me and makes me laugh. I feel safe and worry-free with him.
All this sounds great, right? Well, not quite. You see, this guy is one of the millions of 20-something, college-educated males who are underemployed. He has to work multiple jobs just to make ends meet. He is still on the hunt for a better job but because of his schedule, he just can't hunt aggressively. And when he does apply, he gets interviews and final callbacks but ultimately gets passed over for another candidate. Understandably, he gets upset and depressed by every rejection. But it's tough to see someone you care about go through this over and over again and I feel like I am getting taken for an emotional roller-coaster ride I didn't really sign up for. And short of giving him a better job, I can't help him with this problem.
I really like him but I don't know if I can deal with his employment situation because it's making me depressed, too. Should I continue this and hope that eventually -- and maybe sooner than later -- his job problem will be solved? Should I build an emotional barrier to stop myself from feeling depressed with him? Are my feelings of ambivalence toward this relationship really about his job situation, or do you think there are underlying personality or life-goal differences in play?
– Brazen Careerist?, Cambridge
A: I don't think that you're ambivalent about this relationship, BC. You like him a lot. You're just bummed out on his behalf and drowning in his stress.
Your guy is ambitious, just like you. He's desperate to get a job. He's not sitting on the couch. He's trying to get through it. It's just bad timing.
My advice is to keep at it because the job thing is temporary, and if you like him this much now, imagine how awesome it will be when he gets a better gig.
There are periods of blah in every relationship. Inevitably, someone will lose a job or a friend/relative and will be bummed out for a long time. That's how it goes. Most couples don't have to start their relationships during one of sad/stressed phases, but for the folks who do, it only gets easier (most of the time).
Give this more time and try to find cheap, creative ways to have fun. Continue to remind him that this is temporary, and do all you can to remind yourself that he makes you feel "safe and worry-free."
Readers? Should she stick it out or is this too much to deal with in the beginning of a relationship? How can she stop herself from getting depressed on his behalf? Help.
– Meredith
I think my boyfriend is a letter writer
**** Update at noon: The letter writer says this is the letter in question.
Please give yesterday's letter some love -- and enter the "Next Fall" contest if you want a free night at the theater. (You have until noon.)
I love today's letter.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I just rediscovered Love Letters and I've been binge reading the archives.
I've been dating this great guy for the last few months. Things are going really well, he's sweet and good to me, and we have a great time together. It's not just that we share common interests, but he makes me laugh and I love being around him. I feel like this has real long-term potential.
Here's the thing. In my reading of the Love Letters archives, I stumbled upon one letter in particular that sounded strangely familiar. In fact, I'm 99 percent sure that my boyfriend wrote it. It's his exact voice, and I even remember having a conversation with him that included some of the same ideas. The letter itself isn't about our relationship (he wrote it when he was single, before we met), or even really his past relationships. It doesn't have to do with another woman at all; it's just about dating in general.
The problem isn't about the letter, or even about us. The question is: Do I tell him I found it? Do I risk him being embarrassed? I don't think it will damage our relationship; in fact I'm pretty sure we can joke about it, but it might be a little awkward.
Also, I realize readers might think I'm being passive aggressive by writing in to you about this, in a place where he could very likely read it and realize it's about him. That's not my intention, and I'm not upset about the letter -- if anything, it's kind of adorable. I'm writing out of genuine curiosity about what others would do in this situation, and I figured that you and the Love Letters community would get a kick out of this conundrum.
I know that if I don't tell him it's going to feel like I'm keeping a secret, and I hate doing that. I also don't feel like he's keeping this from me -- why would he bring it up? Should I simply say "Hey, I found this old Love Letter, it sounds just like you...!" and see what he says? Can we laugh about old Love Letters together, or should I just forget about it?
– Letter Writer Dating Letter Writer, Massachusetts
A: Wow. It's all so meta.
My advice? Tell him that you're a super fan of Love Letters and see if he bites and confesses. If he doesn't, leave it alone. Sure, the two of you would probably wind up laughing about the whole thing, but I'm not convinced that the conversation is worth the giggle.
My concern is that you'll push the issue only to find out that he's not the letter writer. Do you really want to tell him that you made this assumption only to find out that he has no idea what you're talking about? What if he goes online to read the letter (and comments) and gets offended? Is it worth it?
I have to tell you that at least a few people a day contact me because they're convinced that the letter writer is their boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse. For the record, they're almost always wrong (not that I'd tell them if they were right).
We're supposed to have secrets. Let him be the anonymous letter writer because, well, he deserves to be. Feel safe knowing that if you're right, you're dating a very cool guy who is even cooler because he likes Love Letters. Again, you can bring up the column, but if he doesn't reveal anything on his own, don't dig.
Readers? Are you dying to know which letter she's talking about? Should she tell him that she suspects that he's a letter writer? Should it matter? Ever suspect that your significant other is a Love Letters letter writer? Were you right? Discuss.
– Meredith
Our parents are religious
I decided to run a letter today even though many people are off for the holiday. I assume that some folks are around to comment. Right?
Today's letter is about religion, which is appropriate because I'll be speaking about love and religion after Wednesday's performance of "Next Fall." If you want free tickets, please email me (at meregoldstein at gmail.com) and tell me why you want to see the play. Put NEXT FALL in the subject line. I'll pick a few winners. Feel free to include your own stories about love and religion -- conflicts, resolutions, etc.
Entries are due tomorrow by noon. Winners will be notified by tomorrow at 3.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I'm 25 years old and I've been dating my boyfriend for almost four years. After more than two years of a long-distance relationship, I moved from another state to live near him (in my own apartment). He lives with friends.
There are a lot of positives about my life after the move -- my new job is much better than the one I had before, and I don't mind living alone ... except for the financial part. It's tough to afford a decent, safe apartment by myself. And honestly, it does get lonely once in a while, which leads me to the next point.
Like many couples these days, my boyfriend and I would like to move in together when my lease is up late next year. The only problem? Our parents. Both of us come from Catholic families who disapprove of living together before marriage. My parents actually said that our wedding would "no longer be special" and seemed genuinely hurt and upset (not angry) when I told them about my plans. They pressured me to get married instead, saying it was essentially the same thing as living together. He hasn't approached his parents yet because they're more strict and have made their opinion on the matter known before.
My boyfriend and I routinely discuss getting married and intend to do so within a few years, but we feel 25 is a bit too young. We're independent adults, so we aren't asking our parents for permission, but we also respect and love them and we don't want to cause a major rift. Do you have any advice for a couple struggling to be independent without making our families angry? Is it worth the risk, or should we just wait it out living separately if we intend to get married in a few years anyway?
– Family ties (that bind), Boston
A: It seems to me that you have a bunch of options, none of which are great (sorry). One is to defy everybody, which just isn't ideal, especially for your boyfriend. You could also get roommates, of course, but that's not what you really want.
A third option is to consider getting engaged -- just engaged, not married -- next year. Something tells me that his parents will be less concerned about cohabitation if you're "promised" to each other. You can choose to enjoy a long engagement -- very, very long, if you want. Set your own terms once you've appeased them a bit. It's not quite all-the-way married, but it's something to keep them at bay.
It seems to me that your boyfriend has to weigh in here because he's the one whose parents might get angry about whatever choice you make. Does he think that an engagement is the best compromise? If not, what is?
My advice is to talk about the possibilities and then revisit the issue again in ... let's say ... six or eight months. By then, you'll be more confident about whatever decision you want to make. Take advantage of your long lease.
Readers? Will an engagement be enough? Should they be worried about their parents? Should they just suck it up and postpone the move in? Anyone have parents opposed to premarital cohabitation? Discuss.
– Meredith
Is he playing me?
Q: Hi Meredith,
I have a family full of over-protective brothers and they've all hated every one of my boyfriends. I always wrote off their opinions, though, thinking they were just being brothers, but they were right. Every guy I've dated has turned out to be abusive, a cheater, or just plain mean.
So after getting out of my last relationship (during which my ex lied, snooped, and was controlling), I decided to stay single for a while.
Then something happened. About a month later, I met a really amazing man -- a friend of a friend who travels as part of his job. He was stopping in one day for work (coincidentally on my birthday) and after my friend introduced us, we hit it off. We spent the entire day/night together, and then he had to leave the next morning. He called me the next day saying that he missed me and wanted to see me again, so he bought me a round-trip ticket to go visit him the next week.
I had only known him for a day, but we had talked on the phone a lot, and I felt comfortable enough going. The trip was incredible and we're absolutely crazy about each other now. We both have said we want to make something work between us, as crazy as it sounds with the distance and the limited knowledge we have of each other. But I really think this could actually go somewhere, and I don't want to exclude such an amazing person from my life just because we aren't in the same location. If things work out between us, geography is always fixable.
But I forgot to mention one more thing: I'm in my early 20s and he's in his early 30s. I don't have a problem with the age difference (he says he doesn't either), and there's plenty of chemistry between us. We have the same interests, we're looking for the same things in a relationship, and we get along really well. But my friends have put a little doubt in my mind about the whole thing. They think there's nothing inherently wrong with a 10-year age difference, or with knowing each other for a day, or with doing long distance, etc. ... but that I should be careful because he might be playing me.
He has no obligation to me, no obligation to be in any kind of relationship, but he seems to want to be with me. Are my friends right? Should I have my guard up? Is this all happening too fast? Is the age difference too much?
I have a really good feeling about him and I want to let myself be happy and throw myself into it -- but that hasn't always worked out for me in the past. Do I get back on the horse and take a risk, or take a break?
– Swept Away, Waterside, Mass.
A: Do I think the age difference is too much? Not really.
Do I think he's playing you? Nah. I don't think there's any reason to assume that he's up to no good. Not yet, at least.
Do I think the relationship is moving too quickly? Not quite. It seems to me that the only commitment you've made is to continue getting to know each other even though you're living in different places. That doesn't seem like too much, too soon to me. It just seems like a plan.
Really, it's too early to worry about any of these issues. You barely know him, so you're just starting the process.
Unless the friend who knows him tells you to stay away, I'd continue this with high hopes.
Just don't jump ahead. Call this what it is -- the start of something. You might decide during your next visit that you think he's annoying. You might decide in a week that talking on the phone is starting to feel like an obligation. Or maybe this will continue to be awesome.
There's no reason to freak out about this right now. I'm sure your brothers would tell you the same thing.
Readers? Is she freaking out for no reason? What about the age difference? Are her friends just jealous? Discuss.
– Meredith
Am I at a bad age?
Q: Hi Meredith, et al.,
OK, so my question is the question that has probably been asked a zillion times.
Where do professional single women (no kids) over the age of 35 go to meet professional single men who are interested in dating women over 35?
I've tried the internet, meet ups, sporting events (participant and spectator), but it appears most men are interested in girls under 35. Those who are interested in the 36 and up range tend to be on the older side (like 50 and older). I am 37. I am looking to meet men between 33-45 (ideally).
I am attractive, educated, successful, outgoing, happy, blah, blah, blah, but I can't shake this feeling that my age is hindering my chances to meet a nice, available guy.
I've been told by my guy friends that men are scared of girls over 35 because these guys think the girls want to get married and pregnant right away. Is this true? Sure, I want those things, but I am not running around with a registry gun looking to pounce on the first single guy who asks me out.
I've also been told that I am at a "bad" age. This means that all the single guys in my age range are either on or past the threshold of being confirmed bachelors (in other words, they have issues). The rest are married. One friend told me that I am going to have to wait for the married men to divorce in order to find a decent guy. Yikes, really? I don't want to believe this either.
And just so everyone knows, I am very happy with my life. I don’t feel like I need a man to complete me; however, having a partner would be the icing on the proverbial cake.
So what's a girl (and all the other never married, single girls) to do?
I know these guys are out there.
– Where are they hiding?, Boston
A: WATH, you are at an awkward age for dating. Not a bad age (that sounds too negative), just awkward. I won't lie to you and make the situation sound rosier than it is. You may not be running around with a registry gun, but the vibe is there. You're a 37-year-old who wants marriage and kids (right?). That means your timeline is different than a 28-year-old's, and men your age are (and should be) concerned about wasting your time.
Also, your friends are right about the marriage/divorce stuff. I can't make that reality sound better than it is. A lot of people your age are married. And many of them will be divorced. They're just not there yet.
But there is some good news here, I swear. Statistics aside, dating is awkward at any age. There might be plenty of options at 28, but no one feels accountable. At your age, you can assess suitors without having to wonder what they'll be like when they grow up. And while many singles (not just men) do like to date younger people, some don't. I remember a male friend of mine once saying to me, "I want to date a peer." Those guys exist.
You should accept is that this process will be slow. I can't promise you that you'll meet someone soon, and you will have to continue doing all of that work (classes, teams, set-ups, websites, etc.) to improve your odds. I know it's exhausting, but that's reality. Keep on truckin' and remember that yes, you're at an awkward age, but you're also at an honest one. That's a huge help.
Readers? Is she at a "bad" age? Will she have to wait for people to get divorced? Anything she should be doing to make this better? Do most men want to date younger women -- or is that just an online dating thing? Discuss.
– Meredith
Do I wait out his marriage?
Q: I've been friends with "Matt" for about seven years. From day one I felt instantly connected to him. During our first conversation we realized we had one very important thing in common -- surviving the same illness.
Initially, we met, exchanged emails, and hung out a couple times. I started to think, "Hey, this has the potential to go somewhere." And then I met his WIFE and KIDS. So I threw on the emergency brake. I no longer was in the pursuing mode and quickly retreated into friend zone. Only there was one big problem. I had already fallen head over heels for this guy.
Over some time, I tried distancing myself from him and was even in a relationship for a couple of years, but fate (our mutual love for sports) brought us back together ... as friends. The friendship was great. I enjoyed having him in my life. He made me feel completely at ease. Completely myself. Completely safe. Completely happy. We’ve been like that for years.
Which brings us to the present. "Matt" is fighting with his wife all the time. He is not happy. He talks about leaving her because he truly thinks the environment is unhealthy for him. He comes to me to release his frustrations and sit peacefully, watching the game, without any nagging interruptions. Meanwhile, his wife does consider me a friend.
I know that I should not offer much advice to him because my opinion is biased. I know that I should just let him talk and get it out, and just be there for him as a friend. But I'm conflicted. I think there's a possibility that I could love this man -- and have loved him for many years. Because of this, any opinion I could offer would have an ulterior motive.
In any other situation with any other guy, I have always told them how I felt. If the feelings weren't shared, I moved on. Simple. I want to do that now. I want to know if I should just move on. I don't know that I would be able to be with someone else completely until I know if "Matt" and I had a chance. I also know that I can't or shouldn't get involved because he's married. So, in the meantime, I just wait ... and hope ... and pray that the stars align and he somehow gets magic mind reading abilities to hear what is going on in my mind and in my heart.
What should I do? Do I tell him how I feel? Do I just be his friend forever and enjoy what we have (always wondering "what if")? I'm barely surviving over here ...
– Barely Surviving, Great Lakes
A: You have to tell him, BS. Otherwise, you might wind up watching TV with him for years.
He's your friend, so when you talk to him, you can give him the entire story. You can tell him that you've had feelings for him for a long time but that you were able to control them. Now that he's mentioning marital problems, your head is a mess. You don't feel comfortable giving him advice. You don't feel comfortable being his sounding board. You're sitting on the couch next to him with your fingers crossed. It doesn't feel good.
No matter what happens, you are not allowed to get physical with him while he's married. If you tell him how you feel and he leans in for a meaningful kiss, you must push him away. And you must set boundaries. Maybe you should only be seeing each other in a group. Maybe (probably), during this marital turbulence, you shouldn't be seeing him at all. Maybe you won't want to see him anymore after you hear his response to your feelings.
After you force the issue, you have to get your brain open to the idea of dating other people. Matt might give you a big "maybe someday" speech, but that's not good enough. You can't spend your nights watching him watch games.
You say that he makes you feel completely safe and happy. But how safe and happy can you be if you signed this letter "Barely Surviving"?
Readers? Any chance she'll wind up with this guy? Should she wind up with him? Should she stay silent and simply cut him off so that she doesn't get involved or tempt him? Should she confess her feelings? Help.
– Meredith
How do I know he won't leave me?
Q: I have been a notorious failure in relationships most of my life, always building a wall or finding someone who is emotionally unavailable. However, this past year I have been through some serious trauma with the death of a close family member and a few friends leaving me behind during this difficult time. This created major trust issues and multiple insecurities.
For the past few months, I have been seeing a new guy, who is great. He claims to not want to have a label or be in a "relationship," but his actions say otherwise. He goes out of his way to do little things for me to show that he appreciates me and I don't feel as if he is out trying to find someone better. We have been bickering lately because I am beginning to think that it is only a matter of time before he walks out on me, too.
I know that I feel this way because I have experienced so much loss lately that I am now sort of just expecting it. If some people who were in my life for years can just give up on someone at their weakest moment, how can I not be afraid that this guy will do the same? He tells me that he isn't going anywhere, but these days, my gut trusts no one.
I don't know what to do to fix this. I truly want things to work with him, as he is the only thing that has made me happy, but I don't know how to relax and shut my mouth to prevent pushing him away...???
– Abandoned, Massachusetts
A: You've had a rough go of it, Abandoned, and you have every reason to fear that the other shoe will drop -- and smack you in the face.
There's nothing I can say to convince you that this guy won't leave -- and really, I don't know what he's going to do. But I will tell you that you have to have faith that no matter what happens, you can take care of yourself. If you know that, there's less to fear.
I want you to spend some real energy working to find a new community of friends -- and maybe reach out to those old friends to figure out what happened. Then I want you to ask your boyfriend for the one thing that he can do to make you feel more secure. It's time for him to say the words. "I am your boyfriend and we're in a relationship." If he can't do that, you're just not going to feel safe. He doesn't have to promise you his entire future, but you need to know that you both have similar, hopeful intentions.
Readers? Should she be in a relationship? What's up with the friends? What does she need to feel safe right now? Discuss.
– Meredith
Should I drop everything and travel with him
Q: Hi Meredith,
Frequent lurker and first-time letter writer. I come to Love Letters hoping to get some insight from you and the frequent Love Letters readers. I am almost 30 and dating someone my age. We've been seeing each other for almost a year and things have been great. I don't want to gush on and on about how truly blessed I feel to have this man be a part of my life, but it's hard not to! He's sweet, funny, smart … OK, OK, I'll stop there.
At this point you may be wondering what my problem is. I'll be honest, it has less to do with him and more to do with me. A few months ago, he asked me to go traveling with him. He will be finishing up a degree and will have a few months off before he begins a job. He's asked me to go with him and naturally, my first thought was to say yes. I've always wanted to do something like pick up my stuff and just go, but I've always held back. The oldest in a somewhat dysfunctional family, I was assigned the "mother" role very early on in my childhood and have played that role ever since. I've always been the responsible one with the well-paying, stable career, the family member everyone came to rely on. I'm not complaining about this nor do I feel resentment. So here I am with a reasonably well-paying job that is OK (I'm definitely not in love with my job), family and friends and roots in Boston, my car, apartment, etc., etc. The bottom line is that I'm scared about leaving. I would have to quit my job (leave would not be an option), leave my friends, my family, basically everything that i know to be "safe" and just go. Love Letters people, that scares the holy beejebus out of me!
My non-sensible side is telling me to just do this -- to not over think this and to go and enjoy a few months abroad with a man I am crazy about. The question is: Is non-sensible me deserving of being locked up in a mental ward or should she be put on a plane next to her amazing man?
– Maybe World Traveler, Boston
A: MWT, your non-sensible side is actually your sensible side. You want to go. You want us to tell you to go. And you should go. There's no real reason not to.
Your reservations aren't about your boyfriend. They're about practical matters, which really aren't a problem at this point in your life. There will be other jobs, and if your family knew that they were your reason for staying, they'd probably roll their eyes and call you a martyr.
GO. Go. And stop over-thinking it before you drive your boyfriend crazy. Many people would panic about taking a long trip with a significant other. If that's not your concern, you have much to celebrate.
At some point during this relationship, you're going to have to make a big leap for your boyfriend, even if it's a scary one that puts you at risk. This trip is good practice. Good, sensible practice.
Readers? Any reason to stay? The LW didn't mention this, but is it wrong for the boyfriend to expect someone to drop everything and travel with him? Discuss.
– Meredith
When Harry and Sally get bored
Q: Hi Meredith,
My boyfriend Tom and I are in our early 30s. We have known each other for a decade, have been together for a few years, and live together. We met through friends.
From the first moment Tom and I met, we always had a strong attraction to each other, and there were several times when we almost got together, but the timing was never right. One or both of us was always involved with someone else. We would see each other at our friends' dinner parties and on group vacations, we'd flirt and banter, and then we'd go home alone or with our respective significant others. This (admittedly) caused some friction for both of us with our respective exes, but for years and years, nothing ever happened between us. It took us a long time to get together.
Why the letter? Well, I don't know what I expected after all that drama and pent-up attraction. There were a few fireworks at first, but after a couple of months, they quickly burned out, and what I ended up with was a pretty easy, reasonably happy, very comfortable, mutually supportive relationship with a great friend. That is all fine and dandy, but over the course of the past year or so, I have started to feel some disappointment. I realize how ungrateful that sounds ... and I feel insanely guilty about that. I do love Tom and am happy with him, for the most part. But we are probably intimate once a week and it's a pretty routine experience. We kiss, and it is a friendly, affectionate hello or goodnight -- but nothing reminiscent of us passionately making out when we first got together. I feel like we have already fallen into the pattern of an old married couple and it has only been a few years of dating.
I know I could be reasonably happy with Tom for a long time in our predictable, comfortable, somewhat celibate life together. I guess when our relationship was still hypothetical, I just always expected something … more? More fire, more heat, more something. I don't know. He says that he loves me more than anything and that he doesn't know what the problem is with our "lack of passion." How do you infuse the fire back into a relationship after it has burned out?
Maybe the problem is me, and my expectations. Have I seen too many romantic comedies? Am I expecting something that just doesn't happen in real life? Do I just need to get over myself and be happy with my comfortable, predictable relationship?
– What Happened After Harry Met Sally, New England
A: You know, the sex scene in "When Harry Met Sally" isn't very inspiring. It's really about two people falling into each other's arms. It's not "Last Tango in Paris."
The good news is, based on what you've told us, Tom's bored, too. That means he'll want to work with you to make this better.
The sex thing seems to be the big problem, so I'd start with that. Can you talk to him about what you need? (Be specific because spicy talk can lead to spice.) Can you set aside time for more vacations? (Visiting a new, romantic place can help move spicy things along.)
I can't say for sure whether your problem is you or your relationship, but I do know that doubts are doubts, no matter what. All relationships go through lulls, but you're telling us that the fireworks and euphoria burned out after just a few months. You've been with this guy for years. That's more than a lull.
Try to work on the spice, but if it feels weird and forced, you have your answer. Most couples lose the fireworks, but they tend to fall into a routine that they love. You don't love your routine.
Your dramatic drum roll with Tom is pretty much irrelevant now. It's the real relationship stuff that counts.
Readers? What happens to Harry-Sally types when they get together? Was she expecting too much? Can she spice this up? Thoughts about this relationship? Is it better than she thinks it is? Help.
– Meredith
He's so sensitive
Q: Hi Meredith,
A few months ago I got out of a long-term relationship with a guy I cared deeply about, but who ended up not treating me very well. While trying to recover from this breakup, I met a great guy, "Mark." Mark is easy to talk to, sweet, nice, caring, honest, and he treats me wonderfully (and we're all good with physical intimacy). We have fun together doing nothing, and he has been extremely understanding of my need to take things slow. We have been seeing each other for a few months now. Mark is a great catch overall -- definitely husband material.
My problem is that Mark is more sensitive than any other guy I've ever dated. I usually go for the masculine type, but Mark cries at movies, enjoys musical theater, and doesn't mind hanging out with the girls gossiping. While I can definitely see why some of these qualities are sweet, they are a bit of a turn off for me (I know this seems silly but it's the truth -- I am usually the sensitive one in a relationship!).
I am struggling because at times, I can really see myself falling for Mark, and then other times I am turned off by his "sensitivities" and the way he wants to see me all the time (Mark isn't originally from Boston so he doesn't have a lot of friends in the area).
How long is it OK to date someone while you're trying to "figure out" your feelings for them? Mark has made it clear that he REALLY likes me -- but I seem to keep changing my mind about my romantic feelings for him. He is such a wonderful person that I want to really fall for him. I know he would be a wonderful boyfriend. Are these feelings normal? Am I trying too hard to force something?
– Falling for Mr. Sensitive, Boston
A: My advice is to continue dating Mark but to advise him to really focus on building a life for himself in Boston. He can't spend all of his time with you. Even if you stay together, he needs his own activities. My guess is that if you see him with a bunch of guys, or if you have the chance to miss him while he does his own thing, you'll fall a bit harder for Mark. Right now, he's your sensitive sidekick. You don't get to see him in any other context.
You'll have to set boundaries about when it's right to spend time together. And you might have to help him take the first steps to finding his peers. Get him to sign up for a softball league or a class. Encourage him to hang with people from work.
Once he's doing his own thing, you'll be able to figure out how the two of you work together when you're not both revolving around you.
I really think that the sensitivity is less of an issue than "the way he wants to see me all the time." Because lots of super-hot guys cry and dig singing. This is more about needing someone who can surprise you, someone who isn't always by your side after just a few months of dating.
Readers? Thoughts? Is she forcing this or is it too new to tell? Is this about sensitivity or about setting boundaries? Discuss. And ... enjoy the song of the day, which is quite awesome.
– Meredith
Sick of being a caregiver
Q: Dear Meredith,
"Jack" and I have been together for years. We are in our mid-twenties and met during college. We were on and off a couple of times during school but have been going strong for five years. He is the love of my life, best friend, confidant and savior, and I couldn't imagine being with anyone else. A few years ago, he battled with addiction and depression. After that, he dealt with some family tragedies. But I stayed by his side and helped him get through it. I was his lifeline and his bank during that time, never once complaining.
Fast forward to a couple years later. I moved to live with him and to be near his family. It's a daily struggle for me because it's a long commute to Boston. My work hours are intense. He is employed, but he doesn't make much money and he's unhappy with the work. But for some reason he has zero motivation to do anything about it. He has random bills that have collected around the house that would take seconds to take care of, but he just can't seem to get the motivation to just get it done.
I'm tired and frustrated and over being his caregiver. When I do end up snapping, his response is "No one asks you to do it!" and he's right, but I feel like I have to. I guess my question is: When is enough, enough? Should I get out now before I end up resenting the entire thing and the stress that it puts on me? I have never ever insisted on being taken care of, but I do expect to be a team.
– The Caregiver, Outside of Boston
A: You said it best: "I have never ever insisted on being taken care of, but I do expect to be a team." Your guy doesn't want to be a team. He wants to be helped.
I understand that life has been rough for him, but some guys would have gone out of their way to rally after tragedy and to make sure that you weren't sacrificing too much. Again, your guy just sat there.
My advice is to step back and consider this statement: "He is the love of my life, best friend, confidant and savior, and I couldn't imagine being with anyone else." Is that true? He might be your best friend based on how long you've been dating, but your five years of commitment have involved some truly awful stuff. You say that you want him to change, but what do you mean by that? Hasn't he always been this guy? Can he really become another person?
Decide what you need to be happy (write it down in list form) and be honest with yourself about whether he can ever be the right partner. For the record, based on what you've told us, I don't think he can. He's never going to jump to pay bills. He hasn't asked, "What will make life easier for you?" Your lives have always been about him. And that's just not good enough.
Readers? Should she stay or go? How do you get someone who's dealing with depression, addiction, and family tragedy to rally? Is there anything to save here? Discuss.
– Meredith
Watching my friend's terrible love life
Q: Dear Meredith,
A friend of mine -- who I used to like a lot -- has been exhibiting a lot of risky behavior. I don't usually interfere in another adult's risky behavior, but this situation has me concerned. Since I have known her, she has made a name for herself among our social group for hitting on, making out with, and throwing herself (literally) at any man she sees when she has been drinking -- as a married woman. Her marriage recently ended and she almost immediately began dating a man who used to be her boss. She has continued with her drunken antics with other men while she has been dating him.
Why do I care? He has children. They are planning a future together. I am having a hard time standing by and watching her behave recklessly in yet another relationship, and this one with higher stakes. What should I do? Tell him? Give her a stern talking to? Stop being her friend (which will likely happen anyway)?
– Friend of Out of Control Woman, Boston
A: FOOOCW, your question isn't a traditional Love Letters query, but I get so many "How can I stop my friend from being a jerk in his/her love life?" questions that I try to answer a few.
Most of the time, I tell letter writers like you to box up your judgment and ask questions. Because we can't control what our friends do, and often, we don't really know what’s best for them. But in your case, it's impossible not to judge, and your friend's actions are affecting you. That means you have to protect yourself.
I'd tell her that you're worried. I'd tell her that you're having a tough time watching all of this. I'd tell her that the stress of keeping secrets on her behalf makes you not want to be around her. I'd tell her that you don't know what to do and that you need guidance from her.
See what she has to say and then set boundaries. We don't have to support our friends' love lives if their relationships force us to lie. We certainly don't have to support anyone who puts us in unsafe situations.
I don't recommend telling anyone about her cheats. It's just not worth it. Focus on yourself, and if it seems like the right thing to do, walk away.
Readers? Should the LW tell the new guy about the bar antics? Should the LW walk away from the friend? Would a "talking to" really help the friend? What is the LW's role here? Help.
– Meredith
The Almost-30-Year-Old Virgin
Please watch your mouth with today's letter. Don't get your comment poofed away.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I grew up in a pretty conservative home and went to a religious college where sex wasn't unheard of, but there was no stigma for those who were not doing it. I kind of drifted away from the faith in college, but still didn't really date much. There were a couple girls, and I made my first grilled cheese sandwiches then, but never went all the way.
Since I left college I've had one long term girlfriend, but not anyone I really saw a future with. I've been waiting until I was married but always thought I would be married by this point. Now I am staring my 30th birthday in the face and feeling a bit like a movie should be made about me starring Steve Carell.
I'm not an Abercrombie model by any means, but I've had plenty of opportunities. My question for you is whether or not I should just take one. I'm not religious anymore, and it doesn't look like I'm going to get married any time soon. There's really no good reason not to have sex except that I've waited this long and I figure I might as well see it through.
Obviously that has been good enough for me so far, but I'm getting to the point where I am worried that not only am I going to a 30-year-old virgin, but a 50 or 70-year-old one. That was never part of the plan.
So what do you think?
– The Almost-30-Year-Old Virgin, Boston
A: It's never going to feel just right, TA3YOV. If you wait until you're married, it'll be weird. You'll wonder if you should have tried it with others. And if you try it with people you don't wind up marrying, you'll wonder if you should have waited.
My advice is to try it with someone you like enough -- someone with just a little bit of potential. Because my concern is that you're not connecting with the women you date because you're not really allowing yourself to be vulnerable with them. We talk a lot about emotional intimacy on Love Letters, but physical intimacy is another way we get to know people. It's certainly another way we get to know ourselves.
So yeah, try it. Not with just anybody, but somebody nice. Somebody you want to get to know better. And expect that you'll second guess the whole thing -- because you will no matter what. But also expect to learn something about who you are, what you want, and what it's like to do something scary with someone else.
Readers? Should he just wait at this point? Is there a reason he's holding out besides his religious past? Thoughts on physical intimacy helping with emotional intimacy? Stay G-rated.
– Meredith
How long can we stand the distance?
Q: Dear Meredith,
I am in my 20s, originally from Boston, and working in another state for the time being. I met my boyfriend in Boston more than a year ago. We both got jobs across the country (in different places) and moved to try the seasonal work life. I should probably also mention that I've have two long-term relationships in the past. Finally, I'm in a happy one.
It's been months now of doing the long-distance thing. We've driven out to see each other (10-plus hour drives), call as often we can, send letters and packages, and talk candidly about the joys and frustrations of long-distance love.
As is the nature of the seasonal work life, the main focus is finding and securing the next job. My time limit is that if we have not figured out a way to be together by 5 years, then maybe this relationship won't work. He is on the same page.
But that's 5 years of phone calls and always missing someone -- hmmf. I like the relationship because it gives me the opportunity to focus just on my work and not get distracted by mindless short-term romantic flirtations. I also like that I have an actual goal in my life -- getting a solid career going doing something I love so that I can make a life with my boyfriend someday.
But do long-distance relationships work when there is no end in sight and life is so nomadic? What kind of stories are out there about success stories, and failures?
– Maybe I should just hug a tree, Out West
A: Five years is a very long time. Too long. Your goal should be to live in the same place within a year. If you can't pull that off, this just won't work.
You mention that he's keeping you from flirtations and that the distance gives you time to focus on yourself. That's no reason to stay in a relationship. You can concentrate on your job without having a faraway boyfriend to keep you in line.
If you want this to work, you should be applying to jobs as a twosome. If that's not your priority, you should call this relationship what it is -- a placeholder. Hmmf.
Readers? Five years? What's going on here? Is there any hope? Would it be so bad for her to have flirtations and distractions? Any seasonal workers want to talk about their dating experiences? Discuss.
– Meredith
My fantasy life is ruining things
This letter writer references "Pootie Tang." That's a first.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I am a mid-30s woman, former Boston resident. I've been dating, on and off, a very good man for about two years. Neither of us has ever been married, no children, and we both are interested in families. And although my clock is ticking, I have not turned insane yet.
"Billy" is a wonderful guy. Steadily employed, good work ethic, he cleans and cooks, he loves children, and he loves me. I have not always been good to him and have struggled with many of his perceived faults. We are very different in many ways. I have college education while he never finished school. I cut drugs and alcohol out of my life, and while he would like to do the same, he’s struggling with it, which has prevented us from living together. I love reading. He can't read two paragraphs without falling asleep, and he's like "Pootie Tang" (We never knew what he was saying, but we always knew what he meant.) I am not tied to my current area (my family is still in Massachusetts) whereas he seems hesitant to leave. Despite all this, our relationship works on multiple levels.
I have struggled with broken hearts from several men over the course of my life. The men I loved left me and it took years to get over them. But I thought they were everything, made my life interesting, fun, with purpose, and I still think of my last "love" as being my soul mate or something, even though we were only together for a short time. I still miss him and think "what if ..." despite how fruitless and crazy that is.
I can't seem to shake the whole fantasy man. Like if I just accept Billy, I am missing out on the person I am truly meant to be with. Believe me, I know Billy is a gift and I have always thought he was the perfect man, but for somebody else. Every day I try to appreciate the stability, the fact that this man puts up with my teenage-like expectation of what "love" is as he lays next to me and watches six hours of a “My So-Called Life” marathon. He has so many fine qualities.
I've dated. I've been alone. I have hobbies and friends. I've done it all (I feel like). Why can't I just be happy with what I have? Why don't I want to give up on my fantasy life? It's so beautiful and terribly painful. I've tried to let him go to find somebody who will love him better than me. Am I an extreme example of this generation of women who want the unattainable??
– Living in a Fantasy World, Out of Boston
A: 1. Your recent ex isn't your soul mate, LIAFW. I don't believe in soul mates, but your ex ... he was just a magnetic guy who entered your life at a meaningful time. That's all. There is no "what if" with him.
2. Billy does sound wonderful, but not quite right for you. You compare him to Pootie, you mention drugs and alcohol, and you seem to imply that his main strength is that he's just ... there, watching you watch Jordan Catalano. That's not enough.
3. I don't believe that you (or an entire generation of women) want the unattainable. You want someone who sticks around and challenges you. That doesn't seem crazy to me.
4. We all fantasize. It's healthy and normal. Fantasies aren't preventing you from being in a good relationship.
5. You want someone who's not quite Pootie, not quite Jordan. That's a pretty fair request. I can't promise that he'll be right around the corner and ready to date you (and silence your ticking clock) as soon as you drop Billy, but I can promise that it's not crazy to keep looking for him. You call Billy the right guy for someone else. That's a pretty big statement -- one that's rooted in reality.
Readers? Should she stay with Billy? Are her fantasies a problem? Is she right about a generation of women wanting the unattainable? Is she being too hard on Billy? Did you know that Louis C.K. wrote "Pootie Tang"? What's going on here? Discuss.
– Meredith
No college degree, no dates?
Q: I've been a longtime lurker and am a huge fan of your column. I've been struggling with a question for some time now and I think this forum would offer me just the kind of feedback I need to help me make a decision.
I've recently dipped my toes back into the online dating pool and an old concern of mine has resurfaced. See, I don't hold a college degree, and online dating websites invariably force users to check a simple box denoting their level of education. My fear is that I'm being routinely overlooked by potential suitors who default to searching for dates who have college degrees. The mentality I've found when casually asking around among my (mostly college-educated) friends is that "educated" men very much prefer to date "educated" women, and the detailed Q&A section on a particular dating website reflects this, so I'm pretty sure my concern isn't unfounded.
Now, to put my situation in perspective, in addition to being a friendly and slightly nerdy girl-next-door type, I am a very smart, successful, financially independent woman in my early 30s. I have a solid middle-management career with a major corporation, my own apartment, a reliable car that is paid off, as well as great credit and zero debt (a rare side benefit of not having gone to college is not having to repay student loans!). My lack of a college degree is not at all a reflection of a lack of intelligence, responsibility, or work ethic. Instead, it's the product of a family situation that left me financially independent at a very young age and unable to afford college. People who know me at all are shocked to learn that I don't have a college degree, and once I explain the circumstances, they tend to be very understanding.
As I get older and worry more about missed opportunities, I find myself wondering whether fibbing and checking the "college degree" box on online dating profiles would be justifiable under the circumstances. (I would come clean upon meeting a guy face to face.) I know that the right guy won't hold my lack of a degree against me, and I know that there are plenty of guys like that out there -- I'm just concerned that those same guys are innocently ruling me out within the online dating pool. I also think it's worth noting that my job keeps me very busy, so I lean pretty heavily on online dating websites to help me meet single guys my age.
Maybe I'm making too much of this, but all signs seem to point to this being a considerable barrier in my dating life. For what it's worth, in the past I've dated men with a variety of educational backgrounds, from those who have only taken a few college classes, to fellows with PhD's. What do you think, Meredith? Should I fib online and explain myself when I meet a guy in person? Or would the guys I meet be justified in being angry at me for lying about this? And do your readers think that my worry is unfounded?
– Undereducated in Somerville
A: You shouldn't lie, UIS. If I were a nice guy who asked you out and you revealed a fib like that on our first date, I'd throw up a yellow flag. Maybe a red one. I'd be put off.
Sadly, you're dating in a world that has us judging potential partners based on the boxes they check. And you live in a town populated by universities. I mean, you're probably right down the street from Tufts and Harvard and Lesley and MIT and .... the list goes on.
My advice is to be clever on your profile and cross your fingers. What else can you do? Most people have a box that they wish they could check (or didn't have to check). Other people feel this way about their salary or their divorce or their kids. You wouldn't want those people lying to you, right?
Also, just because you're busy doesn't mean that you're allowed to stop looking for men in the real world. You can lean heavily on these sites, but you have to force yourself to do some in-person mingling. Ask friends to consider setting you up with other friends. Maybe find the time to join one club around town so that you're meeting guys with a similar interest, not a similar degree.
Don't check the box unless it applies to you. Sorry. I know it's tempting.
Readers? How difficult is it to date without a college degree in a college town? Do you skip over profiles based on boxes left unchecked? Is she allowed to lie in this situation? Thoughts for this LW about what she should put in her profile to compensate? Discuss.
– Meredith
Crush on my roommate
Q: Hi Meredith,
I'm a woman in my twenties, personable, fun, goal-oriented, and fairly good looking (I've been told); in other words, I don't have trouble getting a date. I met a great guy recently who I think is a total catch: funny, handsome, smart, etc. Even though our relationship has been completely platonic since we've know each other, we spend a lot of time together and get along well. My rational side also recognizes that we have enough common interests and values for a serious relationship (in fact, probably more so than with any other person I've known before). In terms of actually dating, I've been getting some mixed signals. While I don't think I'm his usual type, there does seem to be some sort of connection there and his friends have said things that hint that we could be good together (though maybe that's just how I want to interpret it).
I normally would have no qualms about asking a guy out and finding out for sure if he's interested or not, and if he isn't, I'd have no problem moving on. But here's the twist: this amazing guy is my roommate. What do I do?!
We didn't even know each other before moving in, so as it is I feel lucky that we get along so well. I'm just afraid of making the first move, getting rejected, and creating an incredibly awkward roommate situation. At the same time, it's hard to just forget about someone and move on when you live with that person. I feel stuck, and I don't want to spend the remainder of our lease (with more than six months left) tormenting myself with what-ifs.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
– Lease Locked, Boston
A: LL, you have more than six months left on your lease? That means you've only lived with this guy for a few months, right. As of now, this is just a crush. See if it develops.
Usually I advise people to talk about crushes as soon as they can, but in your case there's reason to wait. In two months, the tension might be so electric that you both feel the need to talk about it. Or maybe you'll realize that he's great for playing house but that you don't want to date him in real life.
If you still feel the same way in a month or two, bring it up. At that point there will be nothing to lose. You'll be uncomfortable no matter what, so it'll be better to get the discussion out of the way.
You can write us another letter then. Because even if he reciprocates, this is going to get messy. Hopefully in a good way. Good luck. (And yes, you are allowed to wear cute pajamas around the house. That goes without saying.)
Readers? Should she talk about this now or wait a month or two? Should she just keep quiet about it forever? Is it possible that she's just confused because of the intimacy that comes with cohabitation? Ever dated a roommate? Discuss.
– Meredith
Do I say the three words?
Q: Hi there,
I am a lurker and occasional commenter, but now I find myself needing your (and your LL crew's) advice before I possibly screw up the most wonderful, fulfilling relationship I've ever been in. We have the best time together and I feel so safe when he's around.
I'm a 30-something single mom who's been divorced for almost a decade and there's no drama in that department -- except that I haven't been able to tell any man I've dated that I love him. I've been in a relationship with a genuinely sweet guy named "Ted" for the past year. For the first time in years I'm dying to tell Ted I'm madly in love with him. Here's the catch. He's freshly divorced single dad coming out of a horrible marriage. He's in the same mental place I was in so long ago. At the very beginning he said he didn't want to be alone, but didn't know if he could be in another serious relationship. Well, we've been in this fabulous relationship for the past year. I need to tell him I love him, but am so afraid he'll bolt because he'll realize he's been a serious relationship and suddenly feel boxed in. I NEVER want him to feel pressured to say he loves me too if he's not ready. I just need to tell him how I feel.
Please, what do I do? Do I tell him how I feel and hope for the best? Should I keep my mouth shut and hope eventually he'll tell me how he feels? It's been a year. Should I feel this anxious about saying "I love you" in the first place?
– Lovesick in Boston
A: LIB, just say it. But don't make a big deal about it. Don't sit him down and say, "There's something I have to tell you." Just say it when it feels right and let it be a nice thing.
Those three words mean different things to everyone. They don't have to mean that you want to marry him and that you expect to be with him forever. In your case they mean that you're having an awesome time and that you feel safe knowing that he's in your life.
My guess is that he'll be as anxious about the statement as you are. Humans smell fear, so don't freak out. Just say it. And if he seems confused or concerned, just tell him to relax and then explain what those words represent.
You've been together for a year. I don't think that he's going to be shocked to hear that you love him. I'd be a little worried if you didn't. Don't make the words larger than life and he won't either.
Readers? Should she wait until he says it first? After a year, should this be an issue? Is his life too turbulent for "love" to be introduced? Discuss.
– Meredith
His ex won't leave us alone
Q: Dear Meredith,
I am in a serious long-distance relationship that has been going great. My boyfriend lives out of state -- where he has to stay for a year because of work -- and I live in the Boston area. We see each other every two weeks and so far everything is perfect ... except one thing. He has a stage five clinger ex-girlfriend.
He dated this ex-girlfriend for a few years more than five years ago. She moved out of state and they have been "pen pals" for some time now. When we were planning his recent move, she got very inquisitive about the details. It made me uncomfortable so I suggested that he tell her about us. He sent her a nice email saying he had met someone and that it was pretty serious. She went bonkers. Emailing, calling, texting, the works. She claimed she just wanted to make sure he was happy and even asked to see a picture of the two of us. Long story short, it all came to a head this summer. She was calling and texting nonstop even though he asked her to stop, and she and I got into it.
While it wasn't my place to get involved, he was very uncomfortable with how strong she came on and he isn't confrontational. I asked her nicely to give us some space and she was very angry and told me it wasn't over between them. He cut off all communication with her but she still emails. I am worried that her threats about coming to claim him are going to come to fruition. I would not have minded they remained friends, in fact -- one of my best friends is my first love. But she is clearly still in love with my boyfriend. My boyfriend thinks we should continue to ignore her but I'm afraid she is losing it. Her emails sound more and more desperate and I am getting nervous. She doesn't threaten bodily harm, just goes on and an on about the past and that he owes her an explanation. She sounds a little crazy to be honest. Please send me some advice.
– You Can't Cure Crazy, Boston
A: You must stay out of this, YCCC. Don't address her again. Not directly. That's your boyfriend's job.
The ex says that she wants an explanation? Your boyfriend should send one. He can say something simple like, "My relationship with you has ended, and I'm happy in my new one. I don't have room in my life for the friendship we once had. I'll be putting a block on your email address, so I won't be receiving your messages. I wish you all the best."
Like you said, she's not threatening bodily harm. She just needs some solid answers and a definite boundary. Your boyfriend hasn't done a great job of communicating with her, but it's time for him to be the bad guy.
My advice is to help him craft the note. Then drop the whole issue. Her name shouldn't come up. With emails blocked, she shouldn't be on his mind.
And please, tell your boyfriend that he has to be honest with people even if it's uncomfortable. You shouldn't have had to suggest to him that he tell his ex-girlfriend that you exist. Why hadn't he already told her? He shouldn't have let you anywhere near the phone when she was calling. Why didn't he take charge? You can't be in a relationship with someone so passive, because, well, how will you know if there's ever a problem between the two of you if he's afraid to cause trouble?
Talk to him. See if he'll block her email address. See if he can commit to being honest with you when he needs to be, even if it means hurting your feelings. That's the real issue here.
Readers? Is the ex crazy or did the boyfriend mess up with communication? How can you stop someone from emailing without engaging them? Is there a problem with the boyfriend, in general? Discuss.
– Meredith
Thoughts on promise rings?
Q: Hi Meredith,
My boyfriend and I have been together for a few years. I'm in my late-20s and he's in his early 30s. We have had ups and downs like most couples, dealt with personal and family chaos, career changes, and all the other crazy stuff life throws at you. At the end of the day we love each other very much and have really stuck by each other through thick and thin. We do not live together although we have talked about moving in together recently and decided that we're not quite ready to take that step. We spend most nights together at his place.
Now for my question. I'm not 100% sure about marriage in general. Some days I think it would be fun and exciting to have a wedding and a marriage, while other days I think I'm cool with the life partner thing. I do want a commitment, though. I see moving in together as the "big step" that would solidify that commitment. I just resigned my lease so the earliest something could change is a year from now. I've decided I would like to show him that I am committed. As a 21st-century woman, I am thinking about getting some kind of matching jewelry (sort of like promise rings?)
My question is: Am I rushing things? I want it to be a joyous occasion and not uncomfortable, but would also love for it to be a surprise so I don't want to have a conversation with him about it first. I know he is committed to our relationship, but I don't want him to think I am pressuring him into proposing soon or that I'm not respecting the conversation we had about the next step in our relationship. I wouldn't expect us to wear them every day (I wear very little jewelry, changes from day to day). I would view it as a sweet symbol of our commitment to each other. It feels empowering when I think about buying this gift for us and could see him either loving it or feeling nervous about it. He'll never think that I am hinting at an engagement ring because I have told him on several occasions that I do not believe in engagement rings because I think they are archaic and misogynistic (Sorry, Beyonce. I still love "Single Ladies.") Any guidance? Is this old fashioned or corny? Will he view this as too much pressure?
– Longing for Commitment, Massachusetts
A: I'm confused, LFC. So ... he won't think that the matching jewelry is a hint that you want to get engaged, but to you it will mean that you're on your way to making some sort of big commitment. I don't think that the idea is corny, but I do think that it's misleading.
You want to start living with him after your lease is up, so why don't you focus on that? If you're going to buy something that celebrates where the two of you are right now, get something great for his apartment that you can share. Or maybe spend the money on a weekend trip.
Just know that no matter what you buy, wear, or say, you can't speed up this relationship. You have to accept where you are now and fight the urge to pretend that you can control where you'll be next year. You're in a great partnership that's still evolving. Putting a promise ring on it doesn't change anything. I'm sure that Beyonce would agree with me.
To summarize: No promise rings, please. But ask him if there's something you can contribute to his apartment to make life easier for both of you since you spend so much time there. That says commitment to me -- and without any mixed signals or manipulation. And when you're ready, talk about cohabitation next year. It'll take some real planning, so you should be discussing the change within the next few months.
Readers? When she says she wants a promise ring, what does she actually want? Should she talk to him about when they can move in together? Thoughts on meaningful jewelry, in general? Is the promise jewelry a idea nice? Should I be more supportive? Discuss.
– Meredith
He says he doesn't love me enough
Q: Hi Meredith,
I like to imagine what you would say to me about my relationship on any given day, but now that a real problem has arisen I thought I would stop pretending and actually ask for your advice.
My boyfriend and I have been dating for two years. Before I found him, I was more of a wild child and found it very hard to settle down with anyone. He was exactly what I needed; trustworthy, kind, fun, and he opened my world up to new experiences. My family loves him, his family loves me, and as he's in his 30s (I am a few years younger), we talk frequently about our future, including picking out our wedding songs.
Here comes the shocker: He tells me he thinks of me as his best friend, that he's never loved anyone more than me, but that he isn't sure he loves me "enough." He says he doesn't know if this will work because he thinks I deserve more love than he can give me.
What does this mean? I need more help deciphering this. I think he is amazing and I have never made him feel like he doesn't do enough for me. Is he setting the stage to walk out? If so ... why? Is it something internal he is battling (he has a history of depression), or is that just a cop-out?
– Isn't Love Enough?, Boston
A: It sure sounds like he's setting the stage to walk out, ILE. And it sounds like he's being pretty honest about why. He just doesn't know if he is as attached to you as he should be. And he seems to be putting the ball in your court, which, yes, makes this a bit of a cop-out.
I want you pretend that I'm next to you, the little angel on your shoulder giving you advice. (In your fantasy, can I be wearing this?) Imagine me asking you the following questions: Do you want to be with someone who's unsure? Has he given you any indication that his feelings for you have been affected by his depression? If you walked away from him, would he run after you?
Answer those questions and then ask him what you asked me. "Is this the first step to breaking up? Or are you just sharing your angst and fears before we take the next big awesome step?" That's what you want to know, right?
Usually, when someone says they love you but that they don't love you "enough," it means they want to move on. Get some clarity from him and then ask yourself whether his answer gives you enough confidence to stick around. Let this be your decision.
Readers? Is he just being neurotic and depressive or is this his way of taking a step out the door? Does it matter what's causing his doubt? Should she leave? Discuss.
– Meredith
Between two divorcing friends
Q: Hi Meredith,
A married friend of mine (yes, this truly is a friend) in his early 30s confided in me more than a year ago that he's bisexual and that he had recently told his wife. She was a little blindsided, seeing as how they had been together for a long time, but she was very supportive. He realized that it would be tough having to suppress a side of him that he's never truly been able to explore, but he acknowledged that he wanted to make his marriage work.
When the topic came up between us, he always had indicated that the situation was going well and that he wasn't worried about the future. But soon enough, he and his wife told our group of friends that they were getting a divorce. They maintain that they are best friends and that there are no hard feelings, but it is a devastating situation for both of them. For financial reasons, they'll be staying in the same place for a while, which in my opinion isn't such a good idea. My wife and I are very close with both of them, as are all of our mutual friends.
I would appreciate some advice on how we (me, my friend, his wife, our group of friends, etc.) support this major change in our close friends' lives and make it easier for him and
his (soon to be ex-)wife to move forward. One issue that we (friends) have run into is deciding how soon to try to set either of these people up on dates or introduce them to other singles that we know. And while the friends have not taken a side, we have all agreed that if the ex-husband decides that he does in fact want to be with a woman after he tries dating men, and if that woman isn't his soon-to-be ex-wife, then more than a few of our female friends are going to be pretty angry with him.
– Looking to be supportive, Mass.
A: LTBS, let's not even worry about the "What if he dates another woman?!" question. That hasn't happened, so don't go there.
The best thing to do right now is to ask your friends what they want. Do they want to be invited to the same events? Do they want to be set up, and if so, do they want that information kept secret? Let them guide you.
And do your best to spend some alone time with each of them. They might be best friends, but the group can't pretend that nothing has changed. They shouldn't be treated like a couple. Alone time gives each of them the chance to talk about how they really feel.
Also, expect that one or both of them might find some new friends. He might seek out a different community, and she might want to be around some folks who don't know about this mess. Be flexible and don't take anything too personally.
I know it's tough to be in the middle. Just keep asking questions, and make sure to get them alone for real discussions as often as you can.
Readers? Should the LW even be thinking about setting these people up with others? What do you do if you're a friend in the middle of this? What about the idea of the husband seeking out other women in this process? Discuss.
– Meredith
Waiting for the next step
Q: Dear Meredith and LL enthusiasts,
I am a longtime reader and am looking forward to some unbiased advice. Some background: My boyfriend and I are in our mid-twenties and have been dating for four years and living together for more than two. We love each other very much and have discussed a future together. We are both very happy and secure in our relationship.
We recently relocated to a house he purchased. The house is not terribly far from our old home, but far enough that I needed to find a new job. Even though I was open to and excited about this move (and I still am), I've made some sacrifices that I feel are pretty significant, and I did so without any mention or pressure about an engagement, partially because I knew buying a house is big deal in and of itself, and also because I know we will take that step eventually.
I don't question his commitment to me, but lately I feel that the transition I've gone through recently is huge and that he has not recognized that at all. I also think we're at a place in our relationship where the next step is waiting right in front of us. I'm ready to take it, but I feel like it's out of my hands. Is it out of line to feel that an engagement, or a more formal commitment, is to be expected? Is it an unfair expectation? How do we discuss this without making him uncomfortable or making me sounding crazy?
– Great Expectations, Portsmouth, NH
A: GE, my gut (and your letter) tells me that your boyfriend doesn't understand that you've made big sacrifices. You've done all of this stuff with a smile on your face and have gone out of your way to make these transitions easy for everyone. How would he know that you're a bit overwhelmed and that you want more?
I don't want you to turn into a belligerent whiner or anything but it wouldn't hurt to let him know that this move has been a big deal for you. He can't empathize and hug you (and consider that it might be time for a proposal) if you don't tell him how you feel and what you want.
You don't win anything by playing it cool. Just be honest. As in, "I'm psyched about this house and my new job, but ... I have the future on my mind. I keep thinking about the next step and want to know how you feel about it. Ever since we moved and I changed jobs, it's been difficult not to focus on the next big thing." That doesn't sound crazy, does it?
This stuff is only out of your hands if you keep silent. Just bring it up with a smile on your face. Maybe he's been thinking about it, too.
Readers? Am I right to say that he hasn't acknowledged her sacrifices because he doesn't know that any of this was difficult for her? Are these decisions in her hands? Should she bring them up so close to the move? Discuss.
– Meredith
Do I have to cut him off?
Q: Hi Meredith,
Last fall I got out of a rather unhealthy relationship. I didn't date after that until a met "Tyler" while I was on vacation earlier this year. Tyler is a professional in his mid-20s, a few years older than me. It wasn't fireworks from day one. In fact, I spent most of the vacation avoiding him. I'm from Boston and he lives in another city and that was a huge red flag from the moment we met.
Although I tried really hard not to like him, communication didn't stop after we left the beach town. We started off slow, emailing each other during work hours. This progressed to long phone calls, and me visiting him a few times over the summer. The elephant in the room, the distance, was rarely brought up until recently when he phoned me to break up the day he was supposed to be visiting. Tyler told me he couldn't proceed with a long-distance relationship, something we both experienced when we were in college. He no longer speaks to his former girlfriend. I am on friendly terms with my long-distance ex.
We then spent days expressing how we both felt, me wanting to stay together and to eventually move to his city, while he adamantly said he just couldn't balance work, school, and a girlfriend who was a flight away. I'm a rational person; his side of the argument is completely valid. We agreed to remain friends because nothing "bad" happened between us but decided that we should give each other space so we could move on.
Here is where my dilemma comes into play. We still talk for hours nearly every day. We have the same conversation at least twice a week, me still wanting to be with him, him missing me but not committing. I am somewhat of a hopeless romantic. Not everyone is going to meet a potential love on the same career path, in the same city, with all the same life goals. Do I try to form a friendship that may one day lead to more if the timing is right or do I cease all communication and bury every "what if" scenario that provides that small glimmer of hope.
– Out of state, out of mind?, Boston
A: Here's a question, OOSOOM: If Tyler lived here, would he want to be your committed boyfriend? Is distance the only thing keeping you apart? Because based on what you've told us, it's not just about the fact that you're states away. It's also about work, school, and his place in life.
He's not working with you to come up with a plan to close the distance gap, which means he's not the guy you should be thinking about at night. He doesn't deserve so many hours of your day.
You can't continue this routine. I have no problem with occasional updates or a Facebook friendship, but for right now, no calls, texts, or confusing visits. Make your needs clear. Just say, "Hey Tyler, you know how I feel about you. But if you can't be a real boyfriend, I need some real space to get over this. Help me set boundaries. No more afternoon talks. No emailing all day. I need a real partner who's making plans with me, not a Snuffleupagus boyfriend."
I know you're worried that you'll lose him if you stop lobbying on your own behalf, but that's not how it works. If he wants to be with you, he'll find you, even if you haven't been talking on the phone every day. He knows you well enough to understand what he's giving up. Please prioritize yourself and, at the very least, stop the daily calls before they become a real addiction.
Readers? Should she cut him off entirely or can she keep him around as a faraway friend? Is there hope for them? Why is he talking to her every day if he doesn’t want to be in this relationship? Discuss.
– Meredith
Are you all taking it too seriously?
Here's a philosophical question for a holiday Friday. Have a sunny weekend.
Q: This is an unconventional question, but here it goes. I am a longtime lurker and rare commenter. I am a 25-year-old woman, been in two relationships, dated many, am a strong born-again Christian (no judgments, please), and lost my virginity at 24.
My question is this: Why do the majority of LL commenters think that people should only sleep together in a monogamous relationship? Isn't that putting far too much value on the act? Don't you think that it's a good way to shoot yourself in the foot? IMO, if women just relax about it and have no expectations from it (let's try and see where this goes, NOT "He must commit to me for life!"), then they will be free to make a rational decision after the fact and be saved the emotional agony if the guy doesn't stay with them. I really don't get it and am looking for some reasons. Why the strict view on sex? Has this worked for you in the past? Thanks!
– Wondering, Boston
A: When I first read this letter, I assumed that you jumped to major conclusions about what Love Letters readers think about sex. I figured that if I scrolled through old letters, I'd find a rage of opinions about physical intimacy and monogamy.
But as it turns out, you're right. The majority of LL commenters don't like the idea of people sleeping with more than one person at a time. They usually don't even like the idea of letter writers dating more than one person at the same time.
But here's why:
1. Our commenters worry about health issues. They fear that if a letter writer sleeps with more than one person at a time, they'll put themselves (and their other partners) at risk for disease. They also believe in full disclosure for safety.
2. Our commenters are pretty romantic about sex. They tend to advise letter writers to wait until there's an emotional connection. They often suggest that sex is better that way and that there's less risk of getting hurt.
And ... I'm kind of with them, for the most part. I'm all for dating around. But the reality is that most of our letter writers are writing in because they're trying to find a real partner. In many cases, they want to find the person who will be their last partner ever. It's difficult to advise those people to have carefree sex without expectations.
If we're going to generalize about what our commenters and letter writers believe, I'll say that most LW's don't sleep with more than one person at a time because they really don't want to. And again, there are exceptions to that rule. But when I scrolled through past letters, I was able to see that most LWs save sex because they know what they want, not because they're taking it too seriously.
Readers? Do we all have one shared Love Letters view about sex? Can you address the idea of sleeping with more than one person? Does this letter writer's age have something to do with her philosophy about sex? Can you think of any letters that had us endorsing something other than monogamy? Thoughts?
– Meredith
He makes me question my relationship
Q: Hi Meredith,
I'm in a bind. I think? I've been with my boyfriend for almost a decade (since we were teenagers, we are now in our 20s). We used to fight CONSTANTLY, but somehow, miraculously, we stopped. We get along better than ever and it just feels like the healthy relationship it once was. I see us having children, getting married, the whole nine yards. However, there is another gentleman. Let’s call him "B."
I've known him longer than my boyfriend. "B" and I have never dated and we never really hung out back in the day. We had crushes on each other but we were both too afraid to do anything about it. He comes in and out of my life periodically. (He had his own long-term relationship for years, not too sure what happened with that but it’s over.) We have hung out a few times recently and I notice that when he comes back into my life, I have doubts about my current relationship. When he leaves, I am content with my life, everything is great, and I couldn't be happier (because I'm not thinking about "B").
I'm confused. I like "B" but I'm also in love with my boyfriend. I feel like "B" knows when to come back into my life to mess it up. I feel like this is a game he enjoys playing. He told me recently that he could see me as his girlfriend, however he doesn't like introducing me to people he knows.
I need help.
– Confused Lover, Boston
A: B is nothing, CL. If you ever break up with your boyfriend, it won't be because of B.
You've known B longer than your boyfriend? That means you've known him since you were a very young teenager. There's a whole world of other guys out there, right? B just represents the unknown.
You say that every time B shows up, you begin to doubt your loving relationship. The solution? Stop seeing B. Remove the confusion. End the mind game.
Over the next few years, you'll have millions of reasons to doubt your relationship. B shouldn't be one of them. He's not your friend. He's not your more-than-friend. He's just a dangling, moldy carrot that you picked up in high school. Throw him out.
Readers. Does the fact that she sees B mean that she wants the temptation? What do you make of the fighting with her boyfriend? Is B a bad guy? What do you make of the last line of her letter? Can she keep B around as a fun distraction? What's going on here? Discuss.
– Meredith
He's always on the phone
Q: My boyfriend is addicted to his cell phone. He is always texting or taking calls from his family and friends while we're hanging out.
I only see him a few nights a week but he says that if we spend a lot of time together, I can't expect him to just not respond to people. He'll usually take one or two calls while we're together and texts people. I tell him I think that it's disrespectful and that it hurts my feelings. I also feel very unsafe when he texts while driving while I'm in the car. I offer to text for him and he always tells me that it's fine and nothing will happen. I ask him how he'd like it if I was always on my phone. He says that he wouldn't care.
He has also taken his phone out during dates to read articles. When I told him to put the phone away during one of these dates, he told me that he was bored and just wanted to read something.
This issue really bothers me because I believe that it comes down to respect. I feel ignored and that he's putting my safety (while driving and texting) at risk. It's hard to have a relationship with someone who would rather be talking to other people all the time.
Just to clear up: I'm not at all worried that he's cheating. I can usually see his phone and know the person he is talking to.
Am I overreacting or is there a better way that I can deal with this? Please help!
– Tired of Cell Phones, Boston
A: You're not overreacting, TOCP. He's putting you in danger by texting and driving, and beyond that, he's being a jerk. It's one thing to read an article on your phone during dinner. It's another thing to tell your dining companion that you're reading because you're bored.
Your first task is to tell him your rules about car safety. You will not be his passenger unless he surrenders his phone before he gets behind the wheel. You can hold it in your lap while he drives. If he doesn't agree, you don't get in the car. That's just how it has to be.
As for the rest of it, all it should take is one more talk. Bring up the phone stuff at the start of a date, before he starts texing and taking calls. Try this speech: "I don't know if you realize how much you're on the phone while we're together. I know that I've made comments here and there about your phone habit, but I'd just like to be able to get through a few hours of one night without watching you check for messages and calls." If his answer is, "Too bad" or "You're overreacting," you need to rethink this whole relationship. The cell phone thing might seem like a small part of your otherwise great partnership, but I'm not convinced. If he's too stubborn to consider your feelings (and your safety), what kind of boyfriend/friend is he? Will he ever be able to put you first and apologize when necessary?
Readers? How can she get him off of his phone? Thoughts on whether the phone thing is part of a bigger problem? How much should people check their phones while they're out with others? Could this be a dealbreaker? What should she do? Discuss.
– Meredith
He won't unpack
Q: Dear Meredith,
I'm writing with a question about my boyfriend. We've been together just under a year and things are great. He's funny, smart, cute, etc., and I know there's serious long-term potential.
Recently, my boyfriend bought a condo. We've talked about our future together and it's pretty much assumed that I'll move in with him when my lease is up next year.
My problem is about the fact that we're total opposites. I'm super organized and like to tackle things right away, whereas my boyfriend has a more laid-back approach. He's been moved in for a few weeks and has no problem with the boxes in the spare bedroom, or the fact that he doesn't have a living room set. We were supposed to take a big Target/Home Depot trip for the new place, but when the day came he mentioned that he didn't want to go out in the rain (this was more than a week before the hurricane) and that it wasn't a big deal. Well, it was a big deal to me.
I know it's not my condo, but I'm there quite a bit and I'm the type of person who just wants things settled. I'm wondering why he's dragging his feet, and he's thinking he has all the time in the world. And he does; this is going to be his house for a long time. But it's also going to be my home someday and I just want to see it start to look like one. I know he has time and that it's his place to do what he wants with it, and that this is really more about a difference in our personalities, but is there anything I can say to him to let me help? Any advice is appreciated!
– Just Trying to Help, JP
A: Relationships require patience, JTTH, so please, pick a battle. One battle. The living room set thing sounds super annoying, so focus on that. Tell him that all you want to do is get a couch so that you have something to sit on while you watch TV. Fifty tasks are overwhelming but one is manageable. Just help him go down the list one at a time. And make the task fun. Go shopping before a great dinner, or after a good movie.
And know this: Most people have boxes in their spare room a few weeks after buying a condo. The process of buying property is sort of overwhelming. It might take him a few weeks to catch his breath. I know that you're uncomfortable, but you need to maintain your empathy. It might take him a few weeks to sleep off the fact that he just signed a document with a lot of zeros on it.
It seems like it's going to be a nice weekend, right? Tell him you want to take him to dinner and then play around on living room sets at furniture stores. Go to IKEA and reenact that scene from "500 Days of Summer." And when you start to loose your mind over the next few weeks, allow yourself to do little things around the place so that you feel like you're moving forward. Wash the dishes. Hook up electronic equipment. Clean behind the toilet. Buy hooks and racks and hangers. Find the middle ground.
If he hasn't unpacked after three months, you're allowed to nag a little. But not yet. One thing at a time until your name is on the mailbox.
Readers? How can an organized person put up with a partner who has boxes in his spare room? Is she allowed to step in and organize his stuff if it's assumed that she's moving in next year? Am I right about all of this being overwhelming? Should she tell him that this is driving her crazy? Discuss.
– Meredith
He doesn't want to fight
Q: Hi Meredith,
I was wondering if you could elaborate some more on your response to a recent love letter:
"I've always been told that I should do whatever makes me happy."
Who told you that? They don't even say that to little kids on "Sesame Street." Please wipe that piece of advice from your brain. It doesn't make any sense and it's turned you into an entitled liar.
I was recently fed the same line by my boyfriend, who has convinced himself he is unhappy in our relationship because of a recent fight we had. It makes perfect sense in his mind -- why stay in a relationship that isn't making him happy? I've tried to tell him that all relationships involve good and bad, ups and downs, and that no relationship is perfect. It will never be 100% happy, 0% fighting. But he isn't convinced. He still says his happiness takes priority, and since he can only be happy if there is zero fighting, he is ready to walk away. I don't know what to do. Any thoughts?
– Not Making Sense, Boston
A: So yeah, NMS, I said that. But my advice doesn't apply to your boyfriend. I said that stuff about a guy who was cheating on his wife because it made him "happy." Your letter is very, very different. You've got a boyfriend who's telling you that he doesn't want to be in a relationship that involves bickering. Nothing I said to that first letter writer applies to your guy.
My fear, in your case, is that your boyfriend isn't being straight with you about what would make him "happy." Everybody knows that couples fight. Everybody knows that an occasional argument can actually help a relationship grow. Is it possible that he just wants out because he's ready to end this relationship with or without the fighting? Is it possible that he's just done and needs a reason to cut the cord?
You have to ask your boyfriend whether he'd want to stay with you even if you could go through life together without any more fights. See if he'll be honest about his feelings. He says he wants to be happy, right? Can he ever really be happy in this relationship? Can you?
You shouldn't have to convince him that he's happy. If he says he's not and that he wants to leave, all you can do is listen and do what's best for you. I want you to be happy.
Readers? Is this really about him not wanting to fight? Does my advice for the first letter writer have anything to do with the second? How happy should this guy expect to be? What's going on here? Discuss.
– Meredith
Feeling blah about internet dating
I got this letter during the earthquake so I figured I should answer it quickly. Letters seem very urgent when the ground starts moving as you read them.
Q: About 6 months ago, I broke up with my boyfriend of several years. It was clear we were on different paths and wanted different things in life so we decided to part ways. It was a very mature break-up, but was painful nonetheless. I've tried to stay positive about things and embrace my new found freedom.
Fast forward six months -- I've relocated to the Boston area and landed a great new job! Everything is going really well in my professional life. In my love life, errrrr, not so much.
Recently, I decided I was ready to start dating again, so I joined Match.com. Truth be told, I would prefer to date the natural way, but I've found that I'm not meeting new men in my day-to-day life, even being in a new area. I don't have many single girlfriends to go out on the town with. All of my friends are married or in serious relationships. Also, I work in a very small office, so there are really no prospects there (I met my last ex at work, but we worked for a very large company).
I've been out on dates with three guys since then. The first dates have all gone fine, but I find myself losing interest quickly after that. I don't feel any connection with these men. I feel like I'm wasting both my time and theirs by continuing to pursue it, so I usually drop it around date #3. I understand that I'm not going to have a deep connection with these men right off the bat, that something like that needs time to develop. But shouldn't I be feeling something at least?
– Dating, Mass.
A: The question here is, "Should I feel something within three dates?" And my answer is, "Not necessarily."
I know, I know. It's annoying to keep dating someone who might turn out to be blah. But in the real world, it can take weeks before it occurs to you that the cute guy at work has an incredible personality.
I'm not suggesting that you go out on nine dates with every dud. I'm suggesting that you vary your dates. If you like a guy enough to see him a third time (and that's significant, by the way), make that next date different from the others. If you've had two simple dinners, go bowling. See a ridiculous movie and watch how he responds to it. Maybe (if it's not weird) invite a friend on the date to see how he deals with other humans.
You might need to see these guys outside of a restaurant in order to really understand who they are. Make that third date count. Give it the right context. Make it feel like the real world.
Readers? She doesn't seem to dislike these guys. Is she giving them enough of a chance? Can you get to know someone by having dinner with them a few times in a row? Am I wrong about giving the date a different context? Discuss.
– Meredith
Going from Venus to Mars
Q: Hi Meredith,
I have a dating dilemma. For more than 10 years I have dated women. My last relationship of several years ended and I started to consider men again. My family and friends are supportive no matter who I date so it's not that I feel pressured to date men by any means.
Recently I decided to go out with a guy. I was up front at the get-go that I have dated women and men. I thought it made more sense to at least put it out there so that he wouldn't be blindsided down the road.
I am really attracted to him and we plan to see each other again. So here is my dilemma: I'm scared to let myself date him because I'm not sure if we'll have chemistry physically or if I'll come to the conclusion that I'd prefer to date a woman. I also don't want to hurt him if this turns out to be true. But I have found myself excited about seeing him again, and part of me wants to let go and just see what happens.
– Confused, Massachusetts
A: I give you permission to let go and see what happens. My advice would have been to tell him that you've dated women, but you've already done that. If you decide after a few more dates that you just can't be with a man right now, he's not going to be shocked.
I am really attracted to him and we plan to see each other again. You don't sound like you're faking any excitement there. You're just as clueless and hopeful as anybody would be after a few dates. Good for you.
Enjoy. And remember, dating is weird and confusing and scary after the end of any significant relationship. You've told him what's what, and that's all you can do.
Readers? Any advice for this letter writer? Is this what dating is like for everyone after the end of a long relationship? Should she have told him about the women? Can I remind everyone not to sign their letter "Confused"? It makes me confused. Discuss.
– Meredith
Dealing with mutual friends after a breakup
Q: Hi Meredith,
I just broke up with my boyfriend of 4 years. It was mostly mutual and we agree that we need some serious time apart. The problem is that we have the same group of friends. My best girlfriend has become his best friend as well. My boyfriend and I broke up about almost a year ago, then got back together, and finally broke up again. While we were apart before, I had a lot of trouble dealing with my friend hanging around him all the time and not being more supportive of me. Whenever I cry on her shoulder, now or then, she is fully supportive of me, saying how wrong he was and how he didn't treat me right and he doesn't know how to compromise. Then she turns around and is his best friend.
They spend a lot of time together, alone and with a group. I admit that I am completely jealous, and though I know that there is absolutely nothing romantic going on at all, I hate that they are so close. I feel like I can't trust her as a best friend who tells me he's the jerk while she remains best friends with him. My friends feel like I can't ask them to choose between us -- we are all friends -- however I feel like she owes more to me since I was the one dumped (the first breakup at least), we've been friends longer, and we're both females. She feels that she is an equal friend to both of us and that means hanging out with whoever calls her first and that sort of thing.
She is having a party at her house and claims that it's inappropriate of me to ask her not to invite him. It's only been two weeks since we broke up, and I went away both weekends to give everyone space. I now want to spend time with my friends and not have him around since he had that opportunity the last two weeks. My friends think I'm asking too much, my family thinks I'm right to expect her to be more on my side. I want an impartial opinion.
– Lonely, Massachusetts
A: Two of my best friends happen to date. They met through me. I knew the guy first, but I've become just as close with his girlfriend. And if they ever break up (they won't), I think I will have a nervous breakdown. I can't imagine how I'd balance the relationships.
For that reason, I empathize with your friend. But frankly, I think I'd do a better job managing the situation than she is right now. Your best friend should be going out of her way to make things easier for both of you right now. She should be your guide. She should be thinking, "I'm only going to invite one of them to the party, and I'll make the other person feel good about not going." She should be splitting her time without making everyone feel awkward about it.
But she's not good at this. And I'm not convinced that she's going to get any better at finessing her commitments. For that reason, my advice is to lean on other friends who are closer to you than him. Maybe call on acquaintances who are outside of this group. Seek out friends who only know you, or members of this shared group who are willing to hang out with you alone.
Your best friend just isn't the right shoulder to cry on at the moment. That's awful, but that's how these things go sometimes. Your friendship with her is evolving based on this breakup. I'm sure she's conflicted about it, too. She has to know that after all of this, she might be a friend, not your best friend.
So yes, my impartial opinion is that she's not handling this quite right, but it doesn't matter. You need to do what's best for you, which is to find safe friendships that don't make this breakup worse. Instead of sitting around and resenting her, try to use that energy to call on new faces. (And those new faces, by the way, might be the key to meeting someone when you're ready to date again.)
Readers? Is the friend handling this right? Should there be more loyalty because they were friends first (and because she's female)? How should the LW cope with the jealousy? Help.
– Meredith
Is this relationship realistic?
Q: Dear Meredith,
I am a mid-20s med student who is currently seeing a mid-30s divorced executive with two kids. He lives in Boston but travels extensively. Ever since I moved for medical school a year ago, we have been in a long distance relationship. Because of both of our schedules, we haven't spent a lot of time together in person, but we communicate either through phone, text, email or Skype, every day. He is a wonderful, genuine, and caring person who has never made me feel the age difference. We seem to be extremely compatible on a multitude of levels -- intellectually, sexually, and we have similar outlooks and opinions on many things. (He even introduced me to Love Letters a year ago, and ever since, I've thought about writing in). And as wonderful as the constant technological communication is, it is obviously no replacement for actual time spent together. It's been particularly hard for me, maybe because I'm not as used to being away from the people I love as he is (considering he travels so much). Also, I am not certain of where I will wind up working after school. As far as the future goes, how realistic do you think it is to continue seeing each other, all things considered?
– Wishing I Was in Boston
A: This commitment isn't realistic, WIWIB. And that's OK. Sometimes pen pal-ish relationships with faraway loves are worth having, especially when you're in your 20s and busy with other stuff.
But you seem to have hit a wall with the distance. It's making you sad. That's no good.
My advice is to ask him whether he has a plan for the future. Is the goal to live in the same city at some point? Does he want to live together? Is he just waiting it out to see where you get placed after school? What about his kids? Does he want to have more? Do you? Has he thought about any of this?
Use his answers to make a plan for yourself. And -- for the record -- you're allowed to keep him around even if he doesn't have answers. If you want to Skype him all night long until you get sick of it, that's OK. You'll know when you can't deal with it anymore. Most relationships like this run their natural course. It's just easier to get to the end of the course if you ask him the tough questions. I get the sense that you've been avoiding them. After a year, it's better to know.
Readers? Am I right about the natural course thing? Would she be wasting her time to keep him around until she gets sick of it? Is there potential here? Even if she's back in Boston, is he the right partner? Anyone date someone who's constantly traveling? Discuss.
– Meredith
He never compromises
At your request, I added some more "One Day" entries to Thursday's contest update. There were hundreds, so I picked a few more and put them at the bottom for pleasure reading.
Q: Here's the background: We're both in our early 30s, have been together about 2 years, lived together about 1, and up until recently things have been wonderful. We laugh together, we have similar interests, we take care of each other, we love each other very much, and he's good to me. We've talked casually about marriage but neither of us is in a big rush. We want to make sure it's right. I should also mention that he is my longest relationship to date. And now I'm glad that we didn't dive into matrimony.
He's strong-willed and opinionated, and it's something I've known since day one. In a way, I've liked it because I'm the exact opposite and I think he's taught me how to stand up for myself more. But as I'm learning to fight more for what I want, I'm also now learning that he's not willing to budge an inch when our opinions differ. Some of it is no-big-deal "men are from Mars" things like leaving the toilet seat up, and others are somewhat-big-deal things like the physical intimacy is always on his terms. (If he's tired, forget it. If I'm tired, I get coerced into it.) There are also a lot of -- "It really stresses me out and upsets me when you do XYZ. Can you please try not to do it?" -- moments.
Regardless of the issue, it's always the same outcome. He insists that the offense isn't a big deal and shouldn't upset me. Or when I tell him I'm bothered he gives me the eye roll, a big huffy exhale, and "Honey ..."
I've tried to explain that though he can easily control his actions it's much harder for me to control what upsets me or doesn't. But in his eyes, I'm asking him to believe that his actions are bad/need changing, and not asking him to just not do something that upsets me, stupid or not. So he resists wholeheartedly.
Each individual instance is yawn-worthy, but collectively it's wearing on me and our relationship, and now the smallest things set me off. I've been thinking hard about ending things, since talking it out never seems to get me anywhere, but I can't shake the feeling that he really is "Mr. Right" and we just need to keep working through it until we figure out how to fight productively. I also wonder if I really AM over-reacting and if I should chill out and cut him some slack. Am I the one who needs a talking to? Or am in denial that we're a wrong fit? Help!
– No Give and Take, Boston
A: You're not overreacting, NGAT. You've evolved into a more assertive, self-confident person. That's a good thing. But it's not always easy for an alpha to take orders from a beta. And it's not always easy for a beta to get the hang of being assertive without being a nag.
My advice is to come up with a code word that should be used to let him know that a specific decision means a lot to you. He can use it, too. Maybe the code word is "meatballs." Whenever he rolls his eyes at your need to influence a decision, you can say, "Meatballs!" and he'll know that your opinion means more to you than he might think. The code word should work both ways. Meaning, if you ask him for sex and he looks at you and says "meatballs," he's really too tired for it.
If you find yourselves screaming about meatballs all of the time, you might have an unfixable problem. But these safe words should make things better. You should be asking yourselves, "Am I really annoyed enough to yell "meatballs" or can I compromise?"
Have another talk. Pick a word (it doesn't have to be "meatballs") and see how it goes. He fell in love with a more passive you. I don't know if he's capable of loving someone who's more assertive, but let's do what we can to help him along before we walk out the door. And as for you, if you're yelling "meatballs" 40 times a day, you might want to consider whether you might be asking for too much. Meatballs are for emergencies.
Readers? Hope here? How can he evolve with her? Should he have to? Is she the one being the picky alpha? Into the safe word idea? Meatballs!
– Meredith
Will he drop her for me?
Q: "Gus" and I were together for four years and broke up at the beginning of this year. I still love him, haven't felt a connection like that with anyone else, but we had plenty of ups and downs over the course of the relationship. The last couple of months prior to the breakup were worse than usual with more fighting and bickering. This was partly due to stress from my work in school and the fact that I felt like he didn't include me very often in his social plans. Of course, I acknowledge I was to blame, as well. We did not live together. He's 30, I'm 29. We both had plans for marriage and kids.
There was a moment of infidelity on my part, which was the reason for the breakup. I never tried to justify it, but I was truly ashamed and wanted to work on things. I ultimately respected his wishes and we parted ways. I tried my best to move on, finally going on a few dates, surrounding myself with a few close friends, but I had a hard time getting over him, still missing him very much. About two months after breaking up, he contacted me (via email) stating that he was seeing someone but that he continued to think about us. We agreed to meet up for coffee and we were able to laugh together and talk about the good times. We didn't discuss the elephants in the room -- infidelity or his girlfriend -- but from then on we texted constantly, phoned a few times, and would make occasional plans to get together for dinner/movies. Most recently we became physical, with him initiating the first move.
He has said he doesn't want to be pressured into a decision about me because he doesn't want to get back into a situation where we would be unhappy again. This whole time I never pressured him. But I finally made it clear that for everyone involved, he needs to make up his mind as I can't continue to put my life on hold while he decides what he wants. It most certainly isn't fair to her. He indicated to me that he had some commitments with her he felt he had to honor but remained vague about the details and would not give me a specific time frame.
At this point, I feel like he's just appeasing me by saying he needs more time and I wonder whether he has any intention of ending things with her. Do I have the right to insist that he immediately break it off with her if he's serious about us? Should I cease communication altogether until his decision is made? Should I just walk away even though deep down I want us to be together?
– Tired of Waiting, Boston
A: Do I have the right to insist that he immediately break it off with her if he's serious about us? Yes.
Should I cease communication altogether until his decision is made? Definitely.
Should I just walk away even though deep down I want us to be together? Probably.
This whole thing is a mess. I mean, let's say he breaks up with her and you guys become a couple again. Would you be able to trust him? Would he be able to trust you? He seems pretty comfortable living a lie right now. Would you be able to feel safe in a relationship with him?
My advice is to really think about why you want him back. Yes, texts and lunches are fun, but if you become a couple again, the elephants in the room will return. And this time, they will be bigger and smellier. Really, you fought for months before you broke up. Then you cheated. And now he's cheating. The history will travel with both of you.
If you're really determined to keep him, please stop talking to him (and texting, emailing, lunching, etc.) until he is legitimately single. He's behaving like a bad guy right now, and you're helping. Stop.
Readers? Should she demand that he end his relationship or walk away no matter what? What is she trying to save? How can this be fixed? Talk.
– Meredith
Am I living his life?
A one-day contest for "One Day" tickets:
Send me two sentences about the most significant day in any of your past relationships -- with the year on top. Here's an example:
2007
He took me to Plum Island and I stood on a rock so that I was his height. Then he gave me a kiss.
The most interesting two-sentence descriptions will win a pass to see the movie "One Day," which is based on a very good book. Send entries to meregoldstein at gmail by 2 p.m. with ONE DAY in the subject line. I'll pick winners by the morning.
I'm going to pretend I'm Anne Hathaway and read all of your entries out loud to myself in a British accent. Cheerio!
And remember to chat at 1.
Q: "Brian" and I have been together for about a year. I'm in my early 30s and he's in his mid-40s. We had a friendly work relationship for several years. When my husband suddenly left me, Brian, who is divorced, was very supportive. We became lovers and he was my knight in shining armor during the worst period of my life. Things eventually got serious. Now we're inseparable. We spend every weekend together – mostly at his vacation house nearby. We take vacations when our kids are not with us. He regularly invites my friends and family to his beach house and is very generous with them. He recently asked me (and my kids) to move in with him.
I love the time we spend together, but something bothers me. I feel like I'm living his life, not mine. We talk a lot about his work. We spend time at his houses, and now he wants me to move into his house. If I want to do something that doesn't interest him, he suddenly has to work or do something with his kids. If I suggest something that prevents him from going to his vacation house, he won’t do it. It's not that I don’t like going down there, but can’t we do something that’s my idea once in a while?
This extends to my family and friends, too. Every time one of them invites us to a get together, he seems to have an excuse not to go. He's OK with me going by myself but he won't go with me. When he has gone, he's been uncomfortable. He loves to have my friends and family on his turf and he's a totally different person in those situations.
I was also upset with him last summer when one of my close relatives was seriously ill. This relative had to have a procedure in Boston and I wanted my boyfriend to come with me for support. Instead, he stayed home. He did call in occasionally to check on things but it wasn't the same as him being there.
It seems that if something isn't about him or his interests, he's won’t do it. He’s even like that with kids. Brian gets this glazed look in his eyes when they talk about what happened in school, but if they talk about one of his interests, he's all ears. I've also noticed that his kids don’t seem to have any hobbies that don't match one of Brian's interests.
I've tried addressing this issue with him but every time I bring it up, he always argues something like "I thought you liked going to the beach" and then accuses me of being ungrateful. He also thinks I don't understand how busy he is with work and his kids. But if he has time to go to the beach regularly, is he really sacrificing something that important to do something on my terms?
I don't know, maybe he's right. Maybe I expect too much of him. He is very generous and very busy with work and his kids. Brian is everything I’ve looked for -- smart, ambitious, adventurous and much more -- and I'm very much in love with him. We have a nice life and we have a lot of fun together. Should I just be grateful for what I have or potentially ruin a good thing by expecting more?
– Why Can't It Ever Be About Me?, Boston
A: We all have flaws, WCIEBAM. Brian's is that he likes things on his terms. He's in his 40s so that's probably not going to change too much.
It's annoying, but his major flaw does force both of you to take some space from each other. You get to have alone time with your friends without having to worry about him. He gets to sit on the beach without distractions while you're off doing something with your pals.
If he were belittling your passions, I'd be worried. If he were avoiding your friends and family, I'd be upset. But he's just ... behaving like a guy who doesn't want to leave his awesome cocoon. I'm not saying he's right, I'm just saying that we have to pick our battles.
I am bothered by your hospital story. My advice regarding that is to be very clear about when and how you really need him. As in, "I'm not just asking you to hang at the hospital; I'm telling you that I need you there as a partner because I'm scared to death about losing a relative. Calls will not be enough today." There's no way to misunderstand that request.
As for the rest of it, well, it sounds like Brian isn't going to be your everything. Your best friends will still be your best friends. Your family will be your family. Brian will be the guy who offers love when you get home. I don't think that's such a bad thing, but you have to decide for yourself. Maybe after you move in with him, you'll be psyched that he gives you space to enjoy things on your own.
Readers? Is she asking for too much? Is the sick relative thing the same as the not-going-to-other-people's things? Is there anything she can do to feel like she's not living life on his terms? Help.
– Meredith
She's sending mixed signals
Q: Meredith,
I am a gay woman (31) involved in a confusing close friendship with another woman (early 20s). This isn't one of those, "Oh I've fallen for a straight girl!" things. She is bi. I have talked about this with many friends, all of whom seem to be as puzzled as I am. So I decided to bring it to the experts.
"Anna" and I met a few years ago at an annual event and hit it off. We only see each other at this event (we live a few hours away from each other), but we keep in touch quite a bit. (But it is hard to get into more complex discussions about stuff because she is kind of a Luddite when it comes to email and IM.)
The second year we were reunited, we spent about an hour cuddling with each other. Not just arms around each other's shoulders, but more like a full body embrace. I knew I really liked her previously (as a friend) but that cuddling made me realize that I felt something more for her. Unfortunately, I found out that she has a boyfriend. I admitted to her that I loved her, and she told me she still cared deeply for me. She also mentioned a really hard breakup with her first girlfriend (whom she met at the same event).
Then the next year, I kept catching her glancing at me. And last year, every single time we were reunited (even for a few minutes), we were hugging each other like a lesbian couple. This year, it seems to have gotten a lot more intense. When we see each other, we'll hug for 20 minutes at a time and we seem to have progressed to kissing each other on the cheek. We're also both now saying "I love you" to each other. (And yes, I know that close friends can do that.)
It seems like every time I think about her, she calls.
What does it mean? On one hand, I am very happy that we are friends. I couldn’t ask for a closer friend. On the other hand, this intensity almost seems like girlfriends without real physical intimacy. What's the dividing line between really close friends and girlfriends? I have had tons of friends tell me that we seem very close, and that there are a lot of very confusing (although very positive) signs. I recognize that this is a really close relationship, but I am terrified to bring this up and risk messing it up or ruining her relationship with her boyfriend.
– This is Confusing, Massachusetts
A: She's in her 20s and she's bad with email? Weird. I guess that means that you're going to have sit her down in person. You'll have to ask, directly, "Are we going to make out and become a real couple? If so, when?"
It's a yes or no question, which means that anything besides "yes" is "no." It's nice that your friends are so glass-half-full about your situation, but they should be telling you to demand answers. This relationship moves forward a few millimeters every year. It's not working for you.
If she gives you a "no" or an "I don't know," which counts as a "no," think about having some lingering hugs with others. And consider keeping your distance for a bit. Because if she's not your more-than-friend, you probably can't be close to her right now. You'll need some space and time to redefine her purpose.
Also, for the record, she happens to call when you're thinking about her because you're always thinking about her. That's why this has to stop. Yes or no. Mouths touch or they don't. After four years (at least, right?), lingering hugs aren't enough. And don't worry about the boyfriend. You'll be doing him a favor by forcing the honesty.
Readers? Does a relationship that moves at this pace ever actually go anywhere? I say it has to be "yes" or "no," but are there other acceptable Anna answers? Ever have hugs like this with a platonic friend? Is Anna cheating? Is the boyfriend a reason not to bring this up? Is Anna's age relevant? Discuss.
– Meredith
He moved here for me
For those who were wondering: I can now confirm that yesterday's updates were from the real letter writer. She emailed me.
And now today's letter, from a woman who does not watch "Jersey Shore."
Q: Hi Meredith,
I'm a regular reader of your column and this isn't my first time writing in, so like before I'm hoping for some great advice!
I'm a 33-year-old attractive, successful, professional woman who loves my job and my family, and I'm ready to settle down. Six months ago, after many relationships that went nowhere, I started dating "Tim," who was an old friend who lived out of town. Tim is 36. Tim and I dated for a few months and it became apparent that we both wanted to get very serious (he was flying to see me every weekend) and one of us would have to move. He is self-employed so it made the most sense for him to move to me, and he agreed. Yes, it moved fast, but we're both old enough to know what we're looking for and are ready for a serious relationship leading to marriage.
After much discussion, we laid the ground rules on the financials, which I felt was the most important thing to do because it seems to be the biggest issue with other couples I know. I was also brutally honest about who I am, just to set some expectations. So, a month ago he moved in, and things were going well, until this past week. He's gotten really cranky. He complains that I'm lazy and like to watch reality TV (exaggeration: my reality TV is limited to "Project Runway" and "Say Yes to the Dress," no "Jersey Shore," etc.). I do like to lounge around on the weekends because I work all week and I like my downtime, plus I know that once I have kids I can kiss it goodbye.
Tim is very active and social. He lived downtown in a huge city and spent his weekends hanging out at cafes with friends all day. He is a runner and a biker, traits I admire but don't share. He likes to get up and go on a trip on a whim. I have commitments that limit my ability to do that, and financially I can't afford it, and, quite frankly, neither can he. He complains about all the little things, what I eat, how I drive, etc. I tend to be a "pick your battles" kind of girl. I'm getting frustrated by the nit-picking, and he seems so miserable.
I did talk to him about it and he admitted that moving so far away from his friends (his family is all over the place so he never really saw them) and to a new city has been difficult and his business isn't where he wants it to be. I've encouraged him to get involved with organizations that interest him, running clubs, the gym, alumni organizations, and he has. I've also tried to introduce him to a ton of people to help him make friends, and it's been working. I try to fill our weekends with social outings. I'm just concerned that he feels trapped, he moved a long way to be here with me, and made some major sacrifices.
I am totally appreciative of that and want to help make this transition smoother but he seems so miserable all the time, should I just give him time? Do you have any suggestions on how I can help him feel more comfortable? I'm really bothered by this and I want to make this work. He says he wants to get married and have kids, I want that too! I know relationships are hard is there anything else I should be doing that I'm not?
– Eager to Please, Boston
A: ETP, you're doing everything right. You're introducing him to people. You're compromising -- but not too much. You're checking in with him and having honest discussions about his transition.
All this needs is more time. In a few more months, maybe a year, he'll either feel more comfortable, or he'll be so annoyed with Boston and your lifestyle (and "Project Runway") that he'll go away. And that will be up to him. You're doing everything you can to make this living situation work. He'll either take to it or he won't. I know you want to control this, but you can't.
You told us a lot of the bad. I'm assuming that you left out the good. Try to enjoy whatever is good, and make sure he knows that you want more of those moments. Continue to remind him (and yourself) that he moved away from everything he loved to start over. It might take him a full year -- or longer -- to adjust. Life changes are stressful. And this one was huge, for both of you.
Keep the lines of communication open. Let him know that this is a natural part of moving far away for someone else. Reassess in a few more months. Be patient.
Readers? Was it wrong for them to make this move so quickly? Is this normal? Anything she can do to make this better that she's not already doing? Tips for this living arrangement? Discuss.
– Meredith
He makes hints about marriage
Q: My boyfriend and I have been seeing each other for two years. We have the most wonderful relationship. He is kind, considerate, helpful, affectionate, and loving. We have both been married before -- and they weren't good marriages. I have heard my boyfriend say to friends that he never wants to get married again. I would actually be OK with that since I don't think I am ready for that either.
Here is where I get confused. A few times, he HAS made hints that he wants to marry me. Example: We were driving through New Hampshire and I read aloud a sign that said "danger falling rock," and he responded, "Good, I hope it lands on your finger." The comment went over my head and I gave him a look like, "What, you want a rock to fall on my finger?" His response was, "Yeah, then I won’t have to buy you one." Another time around the holidays, he told me that his cousin said that he should by me a ring. He told me he laughed at his cousin and said "yeah right." Then he told me, "Maybe next year, no need to rush things, I don't want to put a time line on something like that."
Since he has said those things, he continues to tell people he doesn't want to marry again. I’m confused. What is your take on this? I will eventually bring it up if the topic ever arises again while we are alone. I just hope I'm not a dimwit and miss it like I did with the last ones.
– Curious in Love, Mass.
A: Don't bring this up "eventually," CIL. Bring it up now. He's making weird passive-aggressive comments about proposals, but you can respond like a grown-up. After two years, it's fair to talk about what you want for your future. If it's not marriage, fine. No need to make weird jokes about it.
This is a pretty childish way to deal with the subject of commitment. And my guess is that this is how he communicated with his ex-wife. You must say to him, "We're not kids anymore. If you want to talk about getting married -- or never getting married again -- just tell me how you feel, and I'll do the same. I'm not sitting around waiting for you to propose. I'm sitting around wondering what you mean when you make all of these weird, loaded comments about our future. Just talk to me like I'm your friend. We're in this together."
Something tells me that he does want to get married but that he wants to feel as though he's doing it to appease you. There's less accountability in that kind of decision. But you can't let him get away with that.
Don't put off this conversation. Tell him that if he wants to talk marriage, that's fine. But no more "rock on finger" jokes. (And for the record, it took me a while to get that one, too.)
Readers? How do you deal with someone who's making weird comments about marriage like this? How can she talk to him about the issue without being critical? Do his comments suggest that he wants to get married or that he doesn't? Anybody else want to write her a speech? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm too young to settle down
Chat at 1.
Q: I have been with, you guessed it, "Rob" for 3 years, I have lived with him for almost 3 years. Things moved incredibly fast, that much I'm aware of. Rob is 32 and I'm 23. The age difference has never been an issue until recently. I'm feeling as though I have too many things I want to experience before I settle down and really commit to someone like he wants me to. He has been talking about marriage for about 2 years now and it's kind of a scary thought to me. Rob is a great guy. He fulfills a lot of the things I need in a relationship. We've had our problems but they have nothing to do with why I'm looking for advice.
I'm very young, I know that. I don't always make the best decisions and I know I've got a lot to learn. The point of all of this is, I know I'm not ready, but I care about him very much.
Can you shed some light on how you're supposed to decide between throwing away a great man and a good relationship so that you can live your life and be ready for settling down when the time comes -- or whether you're supposed to stay with someone who cares very deeply for you even though you might be stuck wondering whether there is something more suitable for you than just a nice guy?
– Where to Go From Here, Boston
A: You have to fly free, little bird. Your boyfriend was talking about marriage when you were just 21? He should know better. He probably wasn't ready for that kind of thing until he met you when he was in his 30s, right? It's time to tell him that marriage won't be on your mind for a long time -- maybe years.
Your letter doesn't say, by the way, that you're madly in love with Rob and confused because of your age. You call him "great" and "nice," not "the guy I know I want to marry, just not now." Even if he wasn't talking about marriage, you'd be having doubts.
Come clean about where you are in your head. Make it clear to Rob that you're not on his track -- not now, and maybe not ever. He might make this decision for you.
I know that the thought of being alone is scary, but isn't the commitment scarier? You asked how you're supposed to give him up. My answer: By trusting yourself and leaning on your friends. You're 23 and you've got lessons to learn, but you know what feels right. Believe in that.
Readers? Should she let go of something good for the unknown? Is Rob to blame here? What is Rob says he'll wait for her? Discuss.
– Meredith
He's married and dating
Q: Hi Meredith,
I am a married man in my early 30s. Been in Boston my whole life but moved to the West Coast two years ago with my wife in search of sun, beaches, and a job. I found the first two but the job is ever elusive. Found some temporary work here and there but nothing long term. During this time our relationship deteriorated and I started abusing substances. We argued constantly about our careers, finances, and how we didn't have a community of friends and family. On top of that, her family kept urging her to leave me and come back to the Bay State. Basically, we had very little support from family and friends since they were all back on the East Coast. I wanted to try some counseling, but obviously being a temporary employee you do not get any benefits so that was out of the question. We are very unhappy with each other.
Not too long ago, I started seeing this woman I met at a job. I knew it was extremely risky because I could get caught. But I found myself falling for her -- and this other woman does not know I have a wife. I'm just unsure of what to do. I know I can never get away with it, eventually someone will find out. I also run the risk of losing them both and ending up with nothing but my miserable self. Furthermore, I'm not sure how this other woman feels about me. What should I do? I've always been told I should do whatever makes me happy. I'm much happier with this other woman, but things are moving real slow. I think I'm just a "rebound" guy for her, since she just got out of a relationship. So my options are go back to an unhappy marriage and try to work it out, or pursue someone else who may or may not feel the same. Any advice?
– CaliforniaGurlz
A: "I've always been told that I should do whatever makes me happy."
Who told you that? They don't even say that to little kids on "Sesame Street." Please wipe that piece of advice from your brain. It doesn't make any sense and it's turned you into an entitled liar. Here you are, worried that you might be this new woman’s rebound guy, and you haven't even told her that you're married.
I hate oversimplifying with tough love (or as Bart Simpson calls it, "soft hate"), but with you I have no choice. You must tell this other woman that you're married and cut her out of your life. Then you must sit down with your wife and tell her you've been pretending that your marriage is already over. Maybe she feels the same way. Maybe she's been waiting for a cue from you to move back to Boston. Or maybe your news will shock her and she'll tell you that she wants more than anything to work it out. Maybe she'll tell you that she wants both of you to come home together so that you can be surrounded by the people who care about you.
The wife stuff is complicated, but it'll help if you start having honest discussions. You also need to look into subsidized therapy. It exists, especially for substance abuse. Google some local programs -- and maybe call your family for help. But before you do any of that, come clean with this other woman. Have some empathy. You are not the center of the universe.
Readers? Any hope for his marriage? Any hope for the LW and this other woman? Is his unemployment relevant? Ideas for couples therapy during unemployment? Discuss.
– Meredith
Is she the one that got away?
Q: I'm an early 30s guy who tried out a dating site years ago. The first person I met was the cool girl, we'll call her Miranda. She was finishing up her master's while teaching and I was already working full time. We seemed good for each other, went on dates, hung out, enjoyed the company. For whatever reason, it didn't work out. We were never "official" so nothing really ended. We've stayed in touch through email/text/FB throughout. She moved out of state and has been with a guy on and off. Meanwhile, I went back on the dating site and the next girl I met is the one I am now engaged to.
Recently, Miranda and I had a sort of soul cleansing text-a-thon (we had both been out drinking) where we both opened up about feelings that never really got put out there five years ago. She regrets that we didn't keep at our budding relationship and I have always regretted the same thing.
I love my fiance and nothing would turn me away from her. This isn't a morality question, i.e., "What should I do, stay or try with Miranda?"
This is a human dilemma of how do I get Miranda out of my head, because despite my love for my fiance, the "what if?" with Miranda is always present.
– Reading my Miranda Rights, South of Boston
A: I read this letter and I thought, "Woulda, coulda, shoulda." Maybe Miranda had the potential to be great for you, but she never committed. And instead of running after her and disclosing your feelings, you hopped back on the dating site.
What-ifs are annoying, but I'm not convinced that you even have one. You and Miranda dated and were able to walk away from each other.
Consider yourself lucky to have a "one that got away." It makes for a good story. But that's all she is. Someone you were more than happy to let go.
You have the right remain content and confident about your choices. (Sorry. I had to.) If you had wanted Miranda to be more than she was, you wouldn't have been able to move on so easily. You would have chased her.
Redefine her in your head and you'll stop thinking about her.
Readers? Is he as sure about his fiance as he says he is? Should he be allowed to contact Miranda? Is there a real what-if here? And -- is it relevant that he's only dated two women from the website and fallen for both of them? Discuss.
– Meredith
I feel no remorse
Every year, the Globe welcomes two high school interns from Boston schools. And every year, I get them for a day. They were with me earlier this week and asked me a lot about Love Letters. I told them all about it, showed them a few letters, and then asked them to try to answer one. Today, I'm posting their responses. (And yes, I picked a letter from a young writer with a young problem so that the interns could get their teenage brains around it.)
I've posted their answers here. Click over if you have time.
Q: I recently broke up with my boyfriend of four months and I'm a little confused. The background is that I am 23 years old and have only had one relationship before this one, and it probably was emotionally damaging. I met this latest guy on a dating website and we seemed to click instantly, which was rare for me. However things began to move too fast and I expressed that to him. After about a month we got into an awful fight because he had some serious jealousy issues. We moved past it, but then, two months later, we broke up because he became jealous of my male friends. We somehow worked it through but I made it clear if he continued being jealous, I couldn't stick around.
Recently he began arguing with me more and more, saying stuff to intentionally hurt me. I just decided to end it because he made me unhappy more than he made me happy. Now, a few days after the break up, I am already talking to someone else and feel guilty. I feel like I should be upset or need to process my feelings but I literally feel no remorse. I don't want people thinking I'm a heartless person but I think the relationship meant a lot more to him than it did to me. I have nothing to "get over" and I haven't cried. All I feel is relief.
I guess my only question is: How long should I wait to start dating again? Because I'm literally ready to start ASAP but I don't want to be viewed as heartless. What's wrong with me?
– Not heartless, Massachusetts
A: My young friend, there is nothing wrong with you. There's nothing to mourn. It's like ... you tried a new food, didn't like it, and then found out you were allergic to it. No big loss. It's not like this guy was your friend for a long time before you dated. Yeah, you "seemed to click instantly," but all that means is that you had a few good dates.
The only lesson here is to trust your gut as soon as it starts barking at you. You broke up with this guy twice in four months. You don't have to give people second chances if you don't want to.
Enjoy the dating experience and trust your instincts. You really do know what's best for you.
Readers? When is it OK not to feel remorse? Does the emotionally damaging relationship have anything to do with her hanging on to this bad guy for four months? Is there ever remorse in online dating? Discuss.
– Meredith
He's .... nice
Yesterday's letter writer sent me a thank you note at the end of the day. Your advice helped. He feels less crazy and will be going to the picnic.
Q: Here I am, a longtime LL-lurker on the verge of my mid-thirtysomething birthday, a trail of unfulfilling relationships with unfeeling, selfish, and narcissistic (but really hot) men in my past, and I have finally found the holy grail ... a nice guy!
We've been spending a lot of time together over the past few months and he's incredibly sweet, thoughtful, smart, polite, cute and romantic. Pretty much the whole package. Good job. Well read. Volunteers regularly. Laughs easily. Very affectionate. What more could a woman ask for? My god, he even speaks French!!
Alas, here's the thing -- I just wish he had a bit more of an edge. I don't want him to be a bad boy. I just want ... I don't even know what I want. I find myself looking at him and just thinking, "Why couldn't you be just a little bit of jerk sometimes?" He is always 100% nice. There's absolutely no mystery, no drama, no disagreements -- just nice, nice, nice. These thoughts leave me confused. Am I just another woman who laments that she can't find a good man but when she does, casts them aside? Or is there really something about him that legitimately turns me off? Is he too good to be true? Will I grow to feel passionate about him? And how long do I keep him around before I figure out if it's one or the other?
Ugh! I’m annoying myself with this whole situation. Any insights? And by insights, I mean that I'm looking for more than 200+ comments telling that I'm fickle and/or need therapy. Thanks in advance!
– Dating A Nice Guy
A: You want drama, DANG? From my perspective, your situation is very dramatic. You have found what many, many women have been searching for, and if you lose this wonderful man, he will almost immediately be snatched up by someone who's been desperate to find him. You have a valuable human in your possession. He is much desired by the rest of the world. That's the drama. Figure out if you're open to letting him get snatched up by somebody else.
I'd say that if by month six the idea of losing him to the masses doesn't panic you and make you feel dramatic about your situation, he's just not growing on you. Six solid months of coupledom seems like a fair trial period.
And just so you know, he does have a dark side. We all do. Tell him you don't mind seeing it. Not his mean side, but his dark side -- because there's a big difference.
Readers? Am I right about six months? Is she being immature or is this a legitimate concern? How can she get jazzed up about a relationship with no drama? Can this relationship last if he stays ... nice? Be ... nice.
– Meredith
Her gay ex is her bff
Q: Dear Meredith,
My girlfriend of 6 months is smart, kind, and sensitive, but is also "best friends" with her ex. They were together 13 years. He came out as gay 2-and-a-half years ago, they split, and he moved to another country. But they maintain a joint bank account (it's not her only bank account) and their joint belongings are still in storage. She has traveled to visit him 3 times since the breakup (for 3 weeks at a stint, most recently last fall) and slept with him each night (just cuddling, she says) during those visits. That was before she and I dated. When I asked why she slept with him, she said "it was a given." She concedes that since she was 21 (she is now in her mid-30s) she has slept with him whenever they have been in the same city. I recently learned that they Skype/IM almost every day and have done so since I've known her and before.
This month he moves to NYC, where we live. He assumed he would stay with her upon his return (though he knows about me). He actually said, "As soon as I get to your place from the airport I'll have to take a shower." She told him no and promises me that when he returns she will no longer sleep/cuddle with him. Though she says they do continue to "have an intimate emotional relationship" and she wants to hang out with him when he returns, alone, have him over her place, and even share ownership of her dog with him (they had the dog when they used to live together).
I will take her out for her birthday late this month, but the next day, a Saturday, she wants a birthday picnic with friends, including the ex. She said that it's OK if I don't want to go (I've told her I don't want to meet him), but she cannot exclude him (for my comfort) because without him the picnic would be "ruined" (as he is part of her established group of friends). I made a mental note, "OK without me; ruined without him. Check."
Yes, he's gay and I supply the physical part of the relationship, but I feel our relationship is behind the curve emotionally. I don't want him taking any part of that emotional role appropriate to a couple, and I believe that is exactly what is happening. She has not let go of him as the term "breakup" suggests, and so he is crowding the emotional space properly reserved to a romantic couple.
I think that she should stop her daily communications, shouldn't hang out with him when he moves to NYC, and that she really shouldn't even have him at her birthday picnic. If you have a romantic relationship with someone and cease only the sex, but maintain all the other emotional bonds, have you really broken up and moved on? And is that fair to the new boyfriend? What should I do?
– Hetero Joe
A: HJ, you summarized this problem like a pro. She's got a best friend/ex who's making it hard for you to feel like a real boyfriend. You want to be her go-to guy, not an extra.
But you have to know that her ex isn't going anywhere. He's her best friend. He's family. He's part of the package. That's your reality.
A great therapist guy once told me, "You can't control what other people do. You can only control how you respond to those people." That should be your mantra here.
This ex might become less important over time, but he's always going to be in the picture. That means you will have to meet him. It's unavoidable. And I think that you should get to know him. Perhaps seeing him interact with your girlfriend will make the whole thing seem less threatening. Or maybe it will make you so uncomfortable that it becomes easier to bail.
Do some fact-finding (meet him) and then adhere to the mantra. You can't change your girlfriend's behavior. You can only tell her how you feel, explain what you need to be happy, and then make decisions based on what she's willing to offer. It doesn't matter who's right or wrong. (For the record, I'm on your side about the intimacy and hers about the picnic.) What matters is that this man is your girlfriend's best friend. If you can't adjust to that, you have to let her go.
Readers? What role should the ex play in her life? Is the letter writer asking for too much here? Picnic thoughts? Shower thoughts? Discuss.
– Meredith
Should she give it a second chance?
Update at 1:30 p.m. ... Some questions answered by the letter writer via email:
Yes, he was deployed and saw combat many years ago (before we were together). He is out now and has a new career. The period of long distance was toward the beginning of the relationship. We've been living separately but close to each other and spending many nights together for the past 2 1/2 years. Yes, he is continuing therapy alone. There have been some failed or failing marriages and engagements very close to us recently. He has referred to these. Yes, the final decision to cancel the wedding was mutual, but he was the catalyst for the conversation.
Q: My fiance and I just called off our wedding and I don't know if I should stay with him.
Background: I am a mid-20s professional working in Boston, he's in his early 30s and was in the military. We've been together for over 5 years. We've been through a lot together including long-distance. He's the first person I've dated that I really thought I could marry. We started having problems a few months ago when we moved in together. Once a loving, affectionate person, he became distant and cold. We didn't talk much (unless we were arguing) and all of a sudden I felt like I didn't know this person I've been with for so long. I tried many times to talk about what was bothering him, but we never really got anywhere. We both realized there was a problem, but didn't know what to do. I suggested counseling and we started going.
Finally he tells me that he's unsure about getting married. He's afraid that things will continue the way they've been for the last few months and we'll end up getting divorced. (Honestly, I've had the same nagging fear, but truly believed that we could work through this tough time together.) He says it's not me, but his own fears that are causing him to feel this way. After a lot of talking, we both decided that we should not get married this fall like we had planned. Of course I'm devastated, but I'm also relieved that this has come out now rather than later.
I stayed for a while and we tried to work on things, but I ended up moving out of our house. He had become really resistant in counseling and didn't want to try any of the things the counselor suggested. I felt like he had completely given up on us. I was so frustrated that I had to take myself out of the situation, even though it was the hardest thing I've ever had to do. I am still in need of help though, because now he's decided he wants to work it out. He has completely changed his tune, saying that it was a huge mistake to let me go and he'll do anything to fix it. I really do love him but is it healthy for me to stay with him? Or should I try to move on with my life? It's true that I've been unhappy for the past few months, even miserable at times, but for years we were smitten together. Is it possible for us to ever get back there again?
– Should I stay or Should I Go, Massachusetts
A: It's not possible to go back to where you were, but it is possible to evolve into something more honest.
My advice is to spend some time with him without rehashing all of the problems. Go out for some dinners and watch some movies. Cuddle up. Take a day trip. See if the romance is still there. If it isn't, and you can't be in the same room without bickering or feeling bad about yourself, that's your answer. Sometimes the damage is just too great to get beyond. But if you find that you can enjoy each other and that the space has given your relationship new life, keep dating. Then maybe visit that therapist once or twice to talk about what comes next.
Usually, when it's over, it's over. But your situation is a bit trickier. You were long distance. He was in the military. Then you were suddenly learning to live together and planning a wedding at the same time. Without all of the pressure and rushing, you just might thrive.
You have to find out whether you're trying to save something that's still there, or if you're just hanging on to history. Explain to him that you just want to enjoy him without all of the pressure. Find out if that's possible.
Readers? Any possibility of a second chance? Was this just about the pressure? Can they go out without rehashing all that happened? Thoughts? Discuss.
– Meredith
How long can I date two women at the same time?
Q: Hi, I'm a longtime lurker and first time caller. My question deals with the etiquette of online dating. I am a professional in my mid-30s with a terrific career (that probably consumed too much time) and a history of long, rewarding relationships that have for one reason or other not ended in marriage. I moved to a new city for career reasons and decided to give online dating a try. I had previously dabbled in it during down periods before, but never seriously. I did not have high hopes, but sent out a number of emails and ended up meeting two of the women in person. To my surprise, I ended up really clicking with both women, and they both seem to like me as well. We share a number of interests (though different common interests with each woman), and each are attractive, age-appropriate, and successful professionally. By the end of this week I will have had dinner with each of them 3 times (no sex yet, as I would want that in the context of a more committed situation), in addition to getting-to-know-you phone calls and emails with each of them proposing activities we could do in the future of our relationship -- meaning that they are both open to a relationship.
I am starting to feel guilty seeing both of them at the same time, but do not feel that I have more of a connection with one than the other just yet. I also have not yet broached the topic of whether I am one of several guys that they are seeing from the same website or if they are seeing me exclusively. It just feels very strange going from having absolutely no history with someone to deciding that you want to date them after only meeting them three times, but at the same time, I don't want to lead one of them on nor blow it with both.
What are women's expectations of someone who they meet online? How many dates is too many before making a decision?
– Don't Want to Two-Time, Pittsburgh
A: You're right, DWTTT. It's almost impossible to make a decision about someone after three dates. Or even five. Or even ten.
But I'm giving you a five-date limit. You don't have to choose a partner by date five, but you do have to discuss the issue with both women. After five dates, you have to tell them that you're still dating other people, just so they know where they stand. Maybe having the talks will help you make your decision. If Woman A says, "Duh, you're one of six guys I'm dating," and Woman B says, "Wow. I really just want you," you'll have a better understanding of your options. And if you find yourself unwilling to tell one of them that you're dating other people, she's probably the one you want -- the one you're unwilling to alienate and potentially lose.
Of course, these women might beat you to the punch with these talks, so get ready to ask questions and give answers at date four.
Readers? Is my five-date rule for this guy fair? Is he leading these women on? Is it possible that he's really 50-50 about the whole thing? What's the etiquette here? How can he tell them without losing them? Am I right to say that the one he doesn't want to alienate is the one he probably wants? Discuss.
– Meredith
Can an affair turn into a good relationship?
For the record, this person is a regular lurker and knows that cheating is very, very bad. She told me she was worried about getting yelled at for her cheat and not getting advice. So ... make sure to get some advice in there. She needs it.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I am a 30-year-old female (divorced, no children). I experienced some tough things growing up, which made my high school years difficult (I won't get into it because I want to remain unidentifiable, but my high school years were bad for my self-esteem). I met my husband when I was a freshman in college. We married when I was in my mid-20s and then moved to Texas in search of a cheaper and warmer way of life. We were homesick and lonely, and the experience drove us apart instead of bringing us together. Even before that, we had a pretty depressing and unexciting relationship. I thought that we worked well because we didn't fight very much. What I didn't realize was that there was almost nothing (no emotion, no feeling, no passion, no love) between us.
After starting my new job in Texas, I became entangled in an affair with "Brad." When I started this new job, Brad was extremely persistent in pursuing me. Brad and I had a mutual attraction and friendship, and he was very clear that he wanted more with me (for example: asking if he could touch me, making comments about my body or looks, etc.). He was married with a son and 10 years older than me. By nature I am shy and reserved, especially with men, but I could only resist his extremely forward advances for so long. Before I knew it, I relented and let down my guard. We talked and emailed all the time, went out for lunches, drinks after work, etc. He was funny, strong, caring and supportive of me. I fell madly in love with him and started one of the worst periods of my life. As anyone who has been in love with a married man/woman probably knows, an affair is isolating, heart-breaking, guilt-inducing, self-esteem lowering, etc. I couldn't handle the guilt, the stress, the secrets, or the sadness, and tried to break if off with him unsuccessfully many times. Somehow, even though I felt guilty about the affair, I had become completely dependent on him and I honestly felt incapable of living without him in my life. I always knew that the only way I'd be able to break if off permanently was if I left the job where we both worked.
Last year, I set 3 goals for myself: talk to my husband about our depressing marriage, leave my job, and end my affair for good. I am happy to report that I accomplished all 3 goals by the end of the year. My husband agreed we didn't have much of a marriage and we have since divorced. I found a new job that I love. I told Brad that we could not have any contact, and that I was going to live my life thinking of our relationship as dead and that we would never have a future together. After millions of tears and countless self-help books, I turned a corner and started feeling stronger than I have ever felt in my life. I was amazed at my capacity to live on my own, to build my own life, and find my own happiness by rediscovering the things I love to do. I even slowly started dating for the first time in my life and have been having a great time.
Recently, Brad came back into my life and told me that he and his wife are getting divorced. He thought that I would immediately run back into his arms and was shocked when I didn't. I was not ready to leave all of the happiness I had worked so hard to build on my own behind. He started texting and emailing me constantly, crying, and pressuring me to go back to him. He has said some pretty hurtful things in this time period as he has tried to convince me to go back to him (no lie, one of his many emails was how he has met somebody else at work who makes him feel the way I used to, so that if I don't go back to him now, I'll never have the chance again).
I feel as though I’m at a crossroads right now. Part of me wants to leave Brad behind and continue building my life without him in it. The other part of me remembers how much we loved each other during those two years and is scared to lose out on this opportunity of being together that we had dreamed about for so long. He has told me that this is the only chance we will ever have where we are both single and available for a real relationship, and if I don't take it, there will never be hope for a happy future again.
Wise Meredith and readers, which path should I choose? Do I continue living on my own with the hope I will eventually find a love like him again, or should I give the two of us a real chance?
– Torn, Texas
A: I don't want you anywhere near Brad, and I am willing to bet all of my favorite T-shirts and pajama pants that 99.9 percent of the wise and beautiful people reading Love Letters today will agree with me.
Brad is super annoying. Brad is a selfish, thoughtless person. Brad pursued you, a married woman, by talking about your hot bod and asking if he could touch you. And now, after all of this, Brad is threatening you. Brad is pitiful.
You've created a wonderful life for yourself and for the first time ever, you're happy on the inside. You're confident about your decisions. You're being honest about what you want. Please don't ruin that. Brad took advantage of an isolated, unhappily married, younger woman with self-esteem issues. Go find someone who wants to date a beautiful, confident, fun, and single woman who knows how to live on her own.
And for the record, I'm proud of you. I hope that doesn't sound patronizing. It's just … not many people do all of those amazing things in one year. Keep living the good life.
Readers? Any reason to consider Brad? Am I missing something? Is it weird/wrong that she's done so much in a year? Should she be dating? Anyone on Brad's team? Should I have more empathy for him? Discuss.
– Meredith
Are his personal problems too overwhelming?
Q: Dear Meredith,
My boyfriend of six months and I have a dilemma. Let's start with the basics. I am caring, understanding, and accepting. I look at him and see a man who absolutely adores me, and our relationship is honest, true, and full of acceptance. Here's the catch -- I found out that he has a slew of problems. On paper, he is a mess. He has had addictions to drugs and alcohol and suffers from depression and schizophrenia. He is 26.
I know ... it sounds horrible and you're probably questioning my sanity for staying in a relationship with him.
The thing is, I see him for the man he is. He has a gentle soul and can always make me smile and laugh. My friends say that we glow every time we are together. We are exceptionally close and he has treated me a million times better than my previous boyfriend who was highly intelligent, motivated, and had a great job -- and looked exceptional on paper.
My boyfriend's family doesn't approve of our relationship because they feel that he isn't healthy enough for a serious partnership. When I say serious, I mean in a relationship, period. We do not live together or have any plans to move in or talk about a future. Still, they've asked me to stop seeing him. I am at a crossroads because I know that he has serious issues, but I also know that we make each other happy.
Am I wrong to stay in a relationship with him? Should I end it because his family thinks he isn't healthy enough for a relationship? What about the good that I do for him? The acceptance, appreciation, understanding, and love that give him gives him something to smile about? But maybe I’m not being honest with myself.
– Love hurts...Am I wrong?, Massachusetts
A: I can't make guesses about boyfriend's metal health, LHAIW. But I bet your guy's doctors can give you some answers. If your boyfriend is treating his mental illness, he's seeing a professional. And that professional can chat with you and your boyfriend (with your boyfriend's permission, of course) about what all of this means and whether it's safe and appropriate to pursue a serious, romantic relationship.
This decision requires fact-finding and soul-searching and it might be exhausting. So ... are you up for it? At six months, with no promise of a future together, are you ready to take on the risks and responsibilities that come with this relationship? Because that's the real question. Is it worth your while, even in the best of circumstances? Only you can answer that one. I haven't seen the "glow."
Go find out what all of this really means and then be honest with yourself about what you need to be happy. Right now, you don't have enough information and I fear that you're not asking enough of the right questions. Go get educated.
Readers? Are there too many obstacles here? What about his family? At six months, is this relationship worth preserving? Discuss.
– Meredith
Can we get through this?
Q: I'm in a 4 1/2 year relationship with my boyfriend and I do love him. However, I find myself at a real loss about what to do.
Background: This is the longest relationship either of us have had. We're in our early 30s and have lived together for the past 2 years. He's currently unemployed after getting a graduate degree. He's looking for work diligently in his field but it's tough. I don't financially support him -- he receives enough to cover his bills from his parents, but hates that he has to.
Last week, I get home from work and my boyfriend begins to talk to me, starting out by saying "I'm not breaking up with you, but ... " He tells me he loves me, that this is the best relationship he's ever had and that I'm a great girlfriend. He knows he should be happy, but he just doesn't feel happy or excited about us. He feels more like roommates than boyfriend/girlfriend and he doesn't want that. Well, I don't want that either and I told him as much. But I do agree that passion has been the last thing on my mind. I don't know if our libidos don't match anymore, if we're just lazy or tired, or maybe we’re just not attracted to each other anymore. And the stress from his financial situation has taken a toll on the both of us. He always shoots down suggestions for things to do because he has no extra money, even if I volunteer to pay.
I'm also concerned that he might be depressed. He's mentioned that he used feel like this before growing up, but he always cycled out of it. He's talked to his best female friend about how he feels about me and she told him he was crazy for thinking that way and that we're good together. I feel like it's his mood that affects mine. Ever since this discussion we had, I find myself second guessing everything I ever thought about us. I've been thinking about marriage with him for a while and now I'm not so sure I can see that kind of future anymore.
I hate that it sounds like I'm putting everything on him, because I know that relationships are a two-way street and what's wrong with us is a problem for both of us. I don't communicate well, or at all. I bottle everything up and try to keep things under wraps so I don't upset anyone, especially myself.
I'm terrified at the thought of breaking up. I'm terrified of being single again rather than losing him. I'm terrified that this might be the beginning of the end. I suggested we get counseling and he seemed open to it, but how does someone unemployed pay for counseling? Where do I even look for it?
I don't know what to do to give this relationship a 2nd chance that I know it deserves.
He asked me if I still got excited to see him at the end of the day and I couldn't answer him. It’s scary. So I'm looking forward to what the readers have to say about it.
– Terrified, Waltham
A: He sounds pretty depressed, and you're obviously very confused. Counseling is key, especially for you. No more repressing all of those unpleasant feelings. It's time to talk it out. You have a job so therapy should be possible. Call your health insurance company. Find a therapist. Go a few times and then bring your boyfriend.
Unemployment can kill a pretty great relationship, so it's important to try to remember what things were like before his job hunt. Was it great then? How were your libidos during his grad school years?
You should ask your boyfriend to imagine what his life would be like with a salary and a good job. If he eventually gets everything he wants, will he want you around? When he fantasizes about an easier future, what role do you play?
And ask yourself this very tough question: If you knew you could find someone else -- anyone else -- and that you wouldn't be alone, would you want to hang on to this relationship?
That question might take some real thought and discussion, so get to therapy. Then bring him as your guest, as soon as you can. The good thing about all of this is that he's willing to go, he wants to talk, he's admitting that he's just as confused as you are, and he knows that you don't have to rush to figure any of this out. And really, you don't. It's a big decision. Take your time. And stay honest. Honesty will lead you to the right decision.
Readers? Are they done or is this unemployment? Is therapy the right move? Does it sound like she's just afraid of being alone? Help.
– Meredith
I fear that we'll get back together
Q: Eight months ago I called off an engagement with a man I'd started dating very young and had been with for many years. As we grew into adults, we became very different people. While there was nothing inherently wrong with the relationship, I realized I had become complacent and wasn't happy. (And around this time I actually reached out to a few LL lovelies off-blog, maybe they'll remember me!)
Post-break up, I think I've been doing pretty well. I had been living way out in the 'burbs, and am now in a great apartment near the city. I've been running and biking a lot, joined an online dating site/have been meeting up with guys from that, and have always had a great group of girlfriends to spend time with. I'm really happy with my life, and it feels more like what I had imagined for my mid-20s.
Here's my problem: I am terrified I am going to wind up in a relationship with him again. It's a completely irrational fear. Aside from the handful of civil conversations required to separate our assets, I haven't had any contact with him since our break up. Apparently my subconscious is on the same page because my latest recurring dreams start with me having accidentally gotten back together with him and feeling a total state of confusion/panic as to how I let that happen. During our relationship, we did break up and get back together a few times, so it's almost like I don't trust myself to remember why I ended things (of those breakups, I only initiated one myself). I've tried not thinking about him, I've tried talking to friends about him so much that I wind up apologizing for beating the topic to death. It's just a bad feeling to have lurking. How do I get rid of it?
– What Irrational Fear? Somerville
A: Don't take your irrational fears so literally, WIF. Your ex symbolizes a greater anxiety -- the fear of the unknown. No matter how great it's going after this breakup, you're probably a little disoriented. Your ex is in most of your memories. Your routine as a single person is still brand new. You're probably scared (albeit excited) about your next relationship. And no matter how complacent and unhappy you were with your ex, it's natural to have a tiny fear of missing out.
I imagine that it's weird and rather upsetting to wake up after having a dream about getting back together with your ex against your will. But every time it happens, and every time that you find yourself panicked about an unwanted reconciliation, remind yourself that your ex is no longer your ex. He represents something bigger.
You might have dreams about your ex for the rest of your life, and that's OK. I still have nightmares that I've missed high school exams and won't be allowed to graduate. I'm in my 30s and I still have that dream at least twice a month. That one's a symbol, too. It means that I'm worried about work or that I forgot to take out the garbage or that I ate too much candy before bed. It's just simple anxiety. Take a deep breath and redefine this fear. Give it less power. Try to watch television or read before bed.
Readers? Is this fear literal or does the ex represent more? Can you relate to the fear of getting back together with an ex against your will? What is this about? Is she having regrets? Discuss.
– Meredith
He's apathetic at 29
Q: Hi Meredith,
I have been with "Rob" for over two years. We've lived together for over a year and have a dog together (kind of a big deal, this dog is like a child to me). His family is great and overall we do have a good time together. The last few months though, a couple things are bugging me. He's a little older -- he's 29 and I'm 26 -- and he seems to lack any ambition/goals/drive for a successful career or to better himself.
I have a decent job, although our first year together was the roughest year I have ever had as I was laid off and couldn't find a solid position for a year. I thought we'd get through that and we'd be cool, but now he is a "freelancer" and is more off than on, and when he is off there is no urgency in looking for the next gig.
I have been working my butt off going to school to change my career to something I feel I will love, and he seems to be content with "just floating by, earning just enough to do the things he actually wants to do." When I ask what he means by that and what he sees for himself in the next few years, he says (aside from being incredibly defensive and assuming that I'm looking to talk about marriage) that he will never love any job, so he will just do whatever he can to make enough to travel, make music, go to bars, and ride his bike. I calmly listen to what he says, he asks if it bothers me, and I tell him that it's fine for now, but not when I want a family etc. I also note that none of his responses include me. I tell him we don't have to talk about it now, it's just something to think about, and the next day he apologizes.
I'm not sure if it's that he grew up in a well-off family, but he seems to have a real disconnect between money and being able to do things ... or earning the things you want vs. just getting the things you want. After we have these talks and he apologizes, nothing changes at all. He's incredibly defensive, shows no initiative with anything (if I want to go somewhere, eat something together, make the apartment look decent, I'm required to do all planning, etc.) I love him more than anyone and it isn't just about money, but when do I say I deserve someone who actually has drive and wants a career? I'm not naive enough to think people will just change, although I think people can certainly improve, but I can't see myself marrying him or having kids because I won't do either without being financially stable. I do eventually want these things, so when do you give up hope that someone will provide what you need?
– Increasingly Disappointed, Boston
A: ID, it seems to me that you actually do want to talk about marriage and kids right now. The future is more than "just something to think about." And that's fine. He's 29. You've been together for two years. You live together. You want to be planning for something. So my advice is to be honest about that. Instead of asking him if he eventually wants a real career, say, "Where do you see us in five years?" Instead of asking him why he doesn't plan, say, "I want to take a trip with you next year -- an amazing voyage to another country. How can we make it happen? How can we afford it?"
Sure, some of this could be upbringing, but my guess is that a lot of this is age. Some people hang on to 29 like a floatation device while others see it as a stepping stone to real life. And that's why it's good to ask him about his five-year plan. Remind him that in five years, he won't be 29. Find out what he imagines his grown-up life will look like. And when you ask, keep your tone supportive, not accusing or patronizing. Be his friend and tell him what he's good at. You should sound excited, not disappointed.
If he looks at you and tells you that he doesn't care what happens in five years or that he might want to continue doing what he's doing until he's 40, that's when you reevaluate your partnership. But if he does see a future with you (marriage, kids, travel, etc.) and just doesn't know how to make it happen, listen and help. Again, 29 is a weird age. Find out what he wants 34 to look like, see how he responds to your own honest fantasies about 34, and then make decisions accordingly.
Readers? Has she been asking the right questions? Is it OK that he wants to work to live as opposed to live to work? Is there any hope here? Am I right to say that some of this is 29? Discuss.
– Meredith
Friends without benefits
Q: About three months ago I told a friend of mine that I had feelings for her. What I didn't know -- and neither did our other friends -- was that she had been seeing a guy for a couple of weeks before I told her. She told me right after I told her how I felt. Obviously, if I had known, I wouldn't have said anything. I told her that I wanted to remain friends and she said she did too. Over the next week however, she went out of her way to avoid speaking with me. We are both members of an organization, we were at several meetings and events over that week, and she didn't even acknowledge that I was there. After several of our mutual friends urged her to talk to me, she told me that she had been avoiding me on purpose and needed time to work all of this out. I understood.
We went without talking for three months and then I contacted her. I said that I thought three months was enough time to decide what we should do and that if she wanted to keep things the way there are (with us going our separate ways), I'd respect that, but that I hoped she would be willing to go back to our friendship. She got back to me and said she wanted to get together and do something with me and some of our mutual friends.
So, I now have a friend again and I'll be trying to get us back to where we were before all of this. However, I still have feelings for her and if she became single today, I'd want to ask her out after an appropriate time period passed.
So, to my question. Is it OK that I'm now in a position to go back to being friends even though I still have feelings for her? I'd never interfere, interject, etc. in her current relationship and I'm obviously not going to broadcast that I still have feelings for her. I guess I need some advice on how to handle this situation.
– Wondering Which Path to Take, Northampton
A: WWPTT, my advice is to set yourself free. Stop trying to make it better. Keep your distance. She's not your friend right now. She's also not your more-than-friend right now.
She didn't reciprocate. She didn't say, "Wow, if only I had known." She had only been seeing the new guy for a few weeks. If she had harbored feelings for you, she would have dropped him. She didn't.
Let her go live and start thinking about other romantic options. Don't worry too much about the friendship. If she's involved in a group outing, fine, you can see her. But other than that, you shouldn't be making plans with her. And I'd ask your friends for support. If they're good friends, they'll probably tell you what's going on -- why she ditched you, whether she ever had feelings for you, and how you should treat her when she's around. My guess is that they'll also tell you to take as much space as you can.
You can't go back to the way you were, but I don't think you want to anyway. Right? Be honest with yourself. Nothing about your letter says that you want to keep her around for a platonic friendship. And that's your answer.
Readers? Should he continue his friendship without benefits? Is there a chance she might reciprocate? How can his friends help? Did she do the right thing by cutting him off? Help. And enjoy a bonus track.
– Meredith
Trouble on the Cape
In chat on Wednesday, I was telling everybody that I had received a letter that made me very nostalgic for youthful times on the beach, summer romance, and the original "Beverly Hills: 90210."
I told everyone that I wasn't going to run the letter because it seemed too ... young ... but everyone said they wanted to read it, so here it is. It's a bonus letter for a beach day.
Be nice. Remember the drama of summer love. For the record, I am Team Belle.
Q:Hi Meredith,
I love your column and advice. Here is my issue. I am working at a Cape Cod beach resort this summer with a few friends from college, including a guy and a girl who dated off and on during the school year: "Mark" and "Tiffany." They were "on" this past spring when Tiffany started working at our school's cafe and became interested in the cafe's manager, "Jeff," who reciprocated her feelings. She was upfront with Mark about her feelings for Jeff and they broke up.
Fast forward to now, and Mark is dating the daughter of the resort's director, "Belle," who also works on staff. Seeing them together, Tiffany is having second thoughts about breaking up with Mark. Worse, Jeff came out from Boston to visit her for the day, but Mark saw him that night at a local club dancing with some random girls. None of us have told Tiffany. My question is whether I should.
I personally think she and Mark should be together, and this would be one step in that direction if Tiffany ended up dumping Jeff. At the same time, I don't want to interfere with Mark's relationship with Belle, as he's happy and any break up there may make working conditions painful. Save me from making a bad decision because all I want is to enjoy this summer with my friends. Thanks.
– Summer Loving
A: SL, let everyone figure this stuff out on their own. Tiffany is already doubting Jeff. She doesn't need a push from you. And really, what is there to tell her? That you heard from someone else that Jeff was dancing with women? You didn't even see it yourself. And dancing isn't a cheat.
Even though it'd be fun for you if Mark and Tiffany got back together, Mark has to do what's best for him. And right now (and probably just for the summer), that means dating Belle.
You've only got about a month left of all of this. Let everybody do what they're doing. Keep silent. It'll all fall into place when you get back to school. Focus on trying to find your own romance in these last few weeks (assuming you haven't already).
Chapin's anyone? Readers? Discuss.
– Meredith
He needs more friends
Q: My boyfriend Joe and I have been together for a little over three years now. Overall, I know we have a great relationship. Even though we are happy, there is an issue that neither of us can really avoid: He does not come from a good family and he surrounds himself with friends who are immature and unreliable, whereas I have always had a strong support system from both my family and friends.
Without getting in to too much of the details, his parents married and divorced at a young age and (I feel) their immaturity caused a lot of issues with Joe and his siblings. Both parents are remarried now, and though they are much older, it seems that their lives continue to thrive on drama.
As for Joe's friends, they party just as much as they did when they were in college and aren't very serious about their careers. I am not exactly sure why this is, but they also constantly leave Joe out of plans. And when they do happen to invite him, Joe reverts back to his college days, which leaves me annoyed and feeling like his babysitter.
The further our relationship moves along and we begin considering marriage and a family one day, the more these issues hang over my head. My fear for our future is that Joe will resent me for having my family and friends by my side at all times. I am also afraid he might consider that I helped push his friends away.
I am not exactly sure how to phrase my question, but how can I enjoy the time I spend with my family and friends without feeling guilty? A lot of times when I go out without him, I feel bad for leaving him alone. But at the same time, I enjoy my "space." I don't want to ever lose him, but I don't want to feel guilty anymore.
– Does my boyfriend needs a bromance?, Boston
A: Your job is to make Joe feel normal, DMBNAB. Remind him that not everyone stays close to their college friends and that while some people find their best buddies when they're young, other people meet their platonic soul mates in the workplace or when they start getting to know the parents of their kids' pals.
Life is all about phases, and that's something you should know, too. You have an amazing support system -- right now -- but eventually, you might go through a phase that requires you to be more isolated than Joe. He might get a new job and find a real clique, whereas some of your college friends might move out of town. You might have kids and find that it's not as easy to hang out with your peers. Meanwhile, Joe, based on his experiences, might thrive under those circumstances.
So yes, encourage him to meet new people and maybe see if any of your friends' boyfriends want to include him when they go out, but don't make it weird. Tell Joe that he'll have a great bromance someday, because he will. Explain that relationships go through stages, because they do.
Don't feel guilty about leaving him at home. The more you put on a sad face before you walk out the door, the more he'll feel left behind. Just show him that you're exited to see him when you return. And yes, occasionally include him if you're going out in a big group. That's all you can do right now.
Readers? Should she feel guilty when she leaves Joe at home? Will he resent that she might have pushed his friends away? Is it normal to go through a friendless phase? Am I right to say that all of this might change? Is the family stuff a part of this? Discuss.
– Meredith
He was an addict
A noon update from the letter writer that answers some of your questions.
"Yes, he goes to group meetings, has a therapist, is in a long-term rehab program, and yes, has (clean) friends and a supportive family. Yes, I have asked to go to see his therapist. Yes, we are very honest with each other. Yes, I told him if he lies to me/happens again I will not stay in the relationship. Yes I am researching Nar-Anon meetings because I feel it would be greatly beneficial. Nothing else has been brought up in the marriage/child department (was more like a one-time discussion). Instead, we have kept it light, we have fun together: we go on outdoor adventures, take walks, go to events, watch movies, make dinner together, etc."
Q: Dear Meredith,
I'm a longtime LL lurker, and I've fallen in love.
I met *Robert* about two months ago. We met on a dating website and hit it off right away. We're both aware that we're lucky to have found each other. We laugh a lot. There have also been some serious conversations, which mostly involve our future and plans together.
One of the serious conversations at the beginning of our relationship was about his history of drug addiction. He told me that he went to rehab about two years ago for prescription drugs, he knew he had hurt a lot of people, he has tried to mend his ways, and has cut off all of his "friends from the past."
He is working hard at starting over and being proactive (working, saving money, going back to school, etc.). He recently admitted that his new night shift job started to take a toll on him and that his stress level caused him to have some "cravings." He said it was just a craving -- nothing that he couldn't handle.
This past weekend, the topic came up again and Robert mentioned that it was more than prescription drugs (cocaine, heroin, etc.), and it was just about 6 months ago that he stopped abusing drugs and became clean.
I was caught off guard and a little upset about him not telling me the entire truth at the beginning. I didn't realize how intense the situation had once been and how recent it was. He told me that his life has truly turned around. He is happy for the first time (our relationship), and doesn't want to ruin such a positive thing. He didn't tell me everything because he was scared and embarrassed.
I run with a healthy crowd. We are always active, positive/optimistic, and have never really known anyone who is in recovery. I love to listen and have not judged him, but I am scared that one day he could give in to drugs again. He tells me that he has been taught to handle this one day at a time. We talk about marrying and having children, but I'm nervous.
I forget about our serious discussion for the most part, but the situation still hangs in the back of my mind. How do I not focus on his past and focus on the future without being a little cautious? I want to be able to trust him down the line when we move in together and build a life together. What would Meredith do?
– Nervous but Hopeful, Boston
A: I'd have a tough time forgiving him for the lie, NBH. But it seems like you have, so let's move on from that and address the whole "Will he relapse?" question.
The answer is: I don't know. All of this is pretty new. Is he seeing a therapist or counselor? Is he in a support group? And ... do you get the sense that this relationship is an addiction? Because I find it interesting that he's talking about marriage and kids after two months. You need to figure out whether he's building a whole life for himself or whether he's simply drowning himself in you. Who else does he hang out with now that he's sober? Anyone?
My advice is to slow things down. Get to know him and see how he's adjusting to his new routine. Take a deep breath and just date him. That's all you should be doing this early in the relationship. You might decide to ditch him in a month for reasons that have nothing to do with drugs. No need to jump ahead.
Readers? Should he be dating after six months of being clean? Could you forgive the original lie? Should they be talking about marriage? Discuss.
– Meredith
Is this younger man interested?
Good morning.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I am 36 years old and look much younger. In fact, I'm often attracted to younger men and they're attracted to me. Lately, however, one situation is confusing me.
I developed a crush on a young man who is 24. He is amazing in so many ways and I believe he genuinely likes me. We haven't talked much about his past relationships. I do know that he's had a few girlfriends and that he still sometimes hangs out with his most recent ex. They broke up months ago.
Here's the confusing part. He texted me a lot. He gave me lots of compliments. I told him through text that I had a crush on him. He agreed to go to an event with me. It was fun and it seemed like we were close. After three weeks of this, I decided we had to either actually go on a date or I had to move on because I liked him too much to keep the status quo. I finally told him I was really interested in him, and he was SHOCKED! He was embarrassed and felt like a bonehead.
My friends think he's either just that clueless or likes the attention. I had hoped to just move on after that talk, but two days later he asked me to hang out. I figured it was just a way to smooth things over. But he wore cologne and shaved and spent a lot of time just sitting and talking in the shade with me. I even decided to hug him goodbye at the end, and he said he was glad I wanted to.
Am I crazy to think he's still giving out mixed signals?!!??! I know there hasn't been time to get over him and that it's partly wishful thinking on my part, but what's his deal? Why is he acting like this? Is it just me? Please help me shed some light on this unusual behavior. Honestly, I'm still holding out hope and thinking maybe I planted a seed that he hadn't thought of before our talk. But it's so confusing!
– Does he or doesn't he?, Waltham
A: Twenty-four-year-old guys are adorable, aren't they? Their cute little faces are 24. Their biceps are unbelievably 24. And don't forget about their brains. Unfortunately, their brains are 24, too.
My guess is that he's interested, petrified, attention-seeking, and frantically trying to figure out what it would mean if your relationship became physical. He's probably wondering whether he'd be your boyfriend and whether he'd have to marry you. He's probably wondering what a 36-year-old woman would want from him, what his friends would think, and whether you're both just enjoying the novelty of the 12-year age difference.
My question to you is: Why are you communicating like a 24-year-old instead of forcing him to discuss all of this like a 36-year-old? You're not doing anybody any favors by texting about important things and continuing the passive-aggressive behavior. My advice is to sit him down during your next non-date and ask him if he wants to kiss and/or date you. Ask him if he has concerns about the whole thing. Then tell him what you want. Be specific.
And prepare to answer some of the questions I listed above. Do you know what you want from him? What are you looking for? And can he keep up?
He'll either agree to your plan or he won't. Or maybe he'll offer an alternative. No matter what he says, you'll have an answer that you understand.
Readers? Is he interested? What is he thinking? Should she explain her intentions? Should she be pursuing this at all? Is his ex relevant? Discuss.
– Meredith
Do I want to be with either of them?
Lots of letters from the wishy-washy this week.
And she didn't tell me what city or state she's from, so let's say .... Bangor, Maine. Seems like it'd be a nice day up there.
Q: I'm 27 years old and dated someone for over 10 years. He was my one and only -- up until eight months ago. He decided to take a chance and move to another state for an opportunity that he said would better our future. He left me behind and I never saw it coming. I decided it was best to let it go.
I met a younger guy, "Jake," at work and he helped me through the separation. Right before my eyes I realized I fell for him. He gave me attention and made me feel really good. He was there for me.
So I decided to break things off with my ex, but I never quite "cut the cord." We still called each other to say hi, went out for dinner, but that was pretty much it. The years that he and I had were nice. He was never abusive. We did everything together. He became my best friend so I couldn't see myself cutting him off completely.
My ex has returned and wants to get back together. Meanwhile, I no longer work at my last job. I thought it was healthy for me not to see Jake for a while, but he also stuck around as a friend. Having two great people in my life has made me very confused. Jake fell for me completely; he wanted a commitment or at least an understanding of where he stood in my life. I've told him that I do talk to my ex and that he wants to get back together. I even confessed to my ex about Jake and he still wants to work it out. All of this makes it hard for me to know what it is that I truly want.
I always told Jake that I didn't expect him to wait around for me, and that if he found a place in his heart to be able to move on with someone else to let me know. I wouldn't want to be sexually active with him knowing he was out doing his own thing. Recently I think he has, and I'm hurt. I think he's been seeing other people for a while but he still says he doesn't want to lose me as his friend and he can accept that he and I will never get anywhere other than that. I really fell for him, but I feel I needed more time to sort things out, especially because my ex reentered the picture. But I had a great connection with Jake the time that we had together was amazing, fun, memorable, and hard to let go!!!
Do you think I should cut the cord with my ex or try working it out? Should I forget the rest and stick with Jake? Or should I scratch both and not be afraid of what the future may hold for me????
– What should I do?
A: WSID, you said your time with your ex was "nice." But you describe Jake as "amazing, fun, memorable, and hard to let go!!!" Count those exclamation points. There are three of them. That's how much you like Jake right now.
You dated the ex from 17 to 27, which means that you grew up with him. This is like separating from a family member. But don't confuse those feelings of loss with feelings of regret. I'm not sure what opportunity he bailed on you to go pursue, but whatever it was, it's not the reason you broke up. There was more to it. Otherwise he wouldn't have gone and you wouldn't have decided to let go.
I understand why you gave yourself some space from Jake -- your feelings (and this letter) are pretty confusing – but if you want him for yourself, you have to do something about it. And you certainly can't be vague with him about what you want. If you have feelings for him that you hope to pursue, tell him. Maybe it's not too late.
Then tell your ex that you need to sever ties for a bit. You don’t want to lose him as a presence in your life, but you don't want to get back together. The end. No need to string him along.
You're not choosing between the ex and Jake. Really, you're done with the ex. You're just unsure about taking a risk with Jake. And really, what is there to lose? Find out whether he's seeing anyone seriously, and if not, take him out. See how it feels.
Readers? This is the second day in a row I've told the LW to pursue what's behind Door No. 2. Am I right? Does she still have feelings for the ex? Should she be friends with the ex? What's stopping her from being with Jake? Is this when she should have alone time? Discuss.
– Meredith
Can I date the other man?
Q: Hi Meredith,
During my two-year relationship, I cheated on my boyfriend with a good friend of mine, "Rob." I knew it was wrong the moment it happened and asked for forgiveness from my boyfriend right away. My boyfriend forgave me and we tried to make it work. However, it was so hard not to think about Rob and how he made me feel. I enjoyed his company so much. My boyfriend told me that I was not allowed to be friends with him anymore. Rob and I stopped being friends and this only made it harder for me not to think about him.
After six months of trying to work it out with my boyfriend, we broke up. We both knew that we did not feel the same way about each other anymore. We had grown apart.
Rob found out about our break up and wanted to be friends again. Since I was not dating my boyfriend anymore, I thought this was a good idea. We were really good friends before anything happened and I really enjoyed being with him.
We started hanging out more and those old feelings started coming out again. I really like how I feel when I am around him. It is easy and I am just happy. I really like him. Recently, we started talking about what the next step was. My friends say that I should try to stay single for a while. I just came out of a long serious relationship. I'm in my 20s and I am in no rush to get married or anything. Rob fears that I am only using him as a rebound. He thinks it's unhealthy to get back into another relationship.
I really like him and I would love to see if things would work out between us. Is this just not the right time for both of us? Is it wrong for me to date the guy I cheated on my boyfriend with? Should I wait and try to be single longer? Should I just realize that I am happy with him and go for it?
– Wrong time, Right guy, Boston
A: I think you should go for it, WTRG. Not pursing this would be ... unnatural. You want to be with him. You've wanted him for a long time. You guys know each other well. Despite everything that's happened, you're still drawn to each other.
I understand what your friends are saying, but you can't plan your life based on perfect timing. Yes, it would be great to be single for a while, but forcing it is just a different kind of dishonest behavior.
It seems to me that you're keeping your romantic distance from Rob because you feel guilty about the cheat. And you should feel guilty. You betrayed your ex and that was very, very bad. But you learned from it. You wouldn't do it again. You need to forgive yourself and move on from it. Rob needs to do the same.
Tell Rob what you want -- how your relationship would work in your ideal world. See if he feels the same way. Explain to him that rebounds (which I don't quite believe in, by the way) don't work this way. He's your friend and you fell for him a long time ago. This isn't a quick, thoughtless decision.
You're allowed to be together if you both want to pursue this. And I think that you should. You sort of already are.
Readers? Is it too soon to date Rob? Should she date Rob? Is she punishing herself because of the cheat? Why are her friends telling her to wait? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm worried that she's like my ex
Q: Hi Meredith,
I met a girl, "Molly," several months ago through one of my best friends.
The attraction was immediate and we decided to go on a date. Things were going swimmingly for 4 or 5 dates until a few phrases slipped from her mouth at dinner. A bit of background before the comments: Molly is from Europe and lived there until high school. She has family and friends over there. She visits frequently and even went to school in a foreign, non-English speaking city.
At dinner she mentioned how she hates to be tied down and always wants to be able to consider packing at any moment and moving on to her next adventure. Molly also mentioned what she called "a European characteristic" of having many guy friends that have no romantic side to the friendship. She mentioned she regularly goes to dinner/drinks solo with guy friends. From my American viewpoint, I know of very few guys who go to dinner and drinks solo with a girl with no ulterior motives.
My ex-girlfriend of 4 years had the same fear of being restricted and the same tendency to be friends with more men than women. I felt very comfortable that after 4 years those issues were behind us until out of the blue, she wanted to end things. After the breakup, she confessed an interest in one of her so-called guy friends.
Both of these issues were brought to the forefront a month ago when Molly went away to Europe for business. She told me how much she was loving being over there and how she missed the culture and people. She also casually mentioned drinks and late nights out with groups of guy friends. I know trust is a huge first step in any relationship but this one is so young that it's still being formed. Is it possible that she just doesn't see how the information that she is sharing could hold me back from getting more involved?
Meredith, should I be concerned about these issues? And if it isn't possible for me to overcome them easily, do I bring them up?
– Nervously Excited With Skepticism (NEWS), Boston
A: Having male friends is OK. Casually mentioning them is OK. It's only a problem if she's lying about them -- or if she's mentioning them to make you jealous. I mean, it's not like she's calling you up and saying, "Don’t worry, honey, but I'm out with handsome Francois and perfect Eduardo and we're all at a nude beach. See you when I get home!" She's just telling you what she's up to, right?
The real question here is whether Molly is capable of falling in love right now -- whether she wants to do more than just date. That's what you're allowed to ask. Is she serious about this? Are you really exclusive? Can she see herself bringing you along on some of these adventures? You've been dating for a few months. You should know whether this is going anywhere or if it's just a string of dinners.
Molly isn't your ex. Don't make assumptions about her based on your last relationship. But do ask the most important question, which is: "Are we falling for each other?"
Readers? Does Molly have potential? Should he talk to her about his concerns? Is the male friend thing weird? Is it European? Do we like Molly? Discuss.
– Meredith
Sometimes I want to be single
Q: Dear Meredith,
Let me start by getting the facts out of the way. We are mid 30s/early 40s, both divorced years ago. We each have children who are mid-late teens. Kids are great and all get along really well. Have known each other for about 5 years, in a serious relationship for a few years. We both dated and had relationships after our divorces, so not a "rebound" by any means. We have taken our time getting to know each other. There is talk of moving in together and marriage, but neither of us is in any rush. We don't want any more kids.
I know how lucky I am to have found an amazing, wonderful man. We have a fantastic relationship. Communicate well. When he kisses me, I still get goose bumps. When he walks into the room, I am always mesmerized by him. As cheesy as it sounds, my heart still flutters when I am around him. It's perfect. Really.
So then why, at times, do I feel that I should just be alone? Let me clarify this. Maybe every six months or so, I wonder if I am just not meant to be in a relationship. I have always been kind of a free spirit, independent, spur-of-the-moment kind of woman. While my boyfriend has never tried to tame that side of me, once you are in a relationship, it just naturally changes because you have someone else to consider when making these last-minute decisions. (To clarify, I am a very responsible mother and these last-minute trips/things I do have been when the children were with their father.)
These feelings, I have noticed, tend to come up when I am driving up the coast alone with the top down.
I haven't really broached the subject with my boyfriend yet because I don't want him to think I want to break up with him and I certainly don't want to scare him off. But is what I am feeling normal? I just don't have anything to compare it to. My marriage was unhealthy and needed to end. So now that I have found the man I want to spend the rest of my life with, I am scared by what these feelings mean. Do other people feel this way? Is there something I can do that will quell these feelings? Should I stop driving up the coast alone and/or change the music I am listening to?
Thank you!
– Is Love Enough?, Boston
A: Don't bring this up with your boyfriend, ILE. Please.
These feelings are totally, totally normal. Really. Most people want to be single when they're driving up the coast on a hot summer night. Similarly, most people want to be in a relationship when they're lounging on the couch watching television or taking a nice walk on a perfect fall evening.
The grass is supposed to look greener sometimes. It's part of being human. And you shouldn't rob yourself of these fantasies. Blast your single music on the coast, and when you get home, play the songs that make you happy to have a partner.
I know that you don't have any basis of comparison, but trust me, this is all good. And again, don't bring this up. This is the kind of thing you keep to yourself in a good relationship. You're not supposed to share everything.
Readers? Is it normal to fantasize about being single? Is this a red flag? Are these fantasies seasonal? Should she talk to him about the issue? Can you give her a coast and home soundtrack? (For the record, she did tell me what she listens to in the car, but I felt that naming the band made her too identifiable. I'd characterize it as -- rock. Maybe a little metal-ish.) Discuss.
– Meredith
Should we try a long-distance relationship?
Q: Hi Meredith,
My boyfriend is about to move for a year to a city 10 hours away and I'm not sure if we should stay together.
Here's the background: We met on a dating website and went on our first date around a year and a half ago. I was living at home at the time because I had just graduated college and hadn't yet found a job; he's a med student. We started seeing each other, but we didn't become exclusive until 8 months later when I moved to the city.
We've had a good relationship since then -- I've met his parents a couple times, he has come to my house for holidays, he spends all his free time with me -- but I still see that he goes on the dating site every day. I've called him out on this, but he just says he doesn't do anything bad on it and won't talk about it further. I think he shouldn't be on there if he is happy in our relationship; it isn't a social network. I can't keep tabs on him from more than 500 miles away, and I'm concerned that he will meet someone else in his new city on there.
He went home, which is a few hours away, a month ago and just returned to Boston to move out. He has a few exams to take before moving, and I understand he needs to dedicate most of his time to studying, but I am hurt because I thought we would be able to spend his last few weeks together. He also wasn't great about keeping in touch while home, and doesn't really understand why I've been upset about that.
I don't know if he is still immature (he's 25) and doesn't know how to be a boyfriend, or if I'm really not that important to him. He says he wants to try to stay together while he's gone, but he also claims he isn't sure if he'll be able to visit me at all due to time and money.
We're really good together, but I'm scared things will go sour when we're apart thanks to the above problems. He doesn't know anyone in the city where he is moving, so I have a hunch I will be bombarded with calls every day out of boredom and loneliness. Still, I don't want to waste a year pining for someone who isn't as dedicated to me and still on the prowl. Help!
– Unsure if distance will make the heart grow fonder, Boston
A: I gave up on him in paragraph three. He's still on a dating website? Come on. He's disrespecting you. He's looking for other women. I'm not sure I'd want you to stay with him even if he had plans to remain local.
"I don't want to waste a year pining for someone who isn't as dedicated to me and still on the prowl." That's the answer to your question, isn't it?
Long distance isn't easy. One person can't do all of the work. You're already exhausted. He has given you every indication that he's just not ready for this. Think about your own needs first and make decisions accordingly. I know it stinks. But it shouldn't be this hard.
Readers? What do you think about the dating website thing? Does he get a pass because med school is crazy? Should they try to stay together and evaluate after a few more months? Is it possible that he'll mature? Discuss.
– Meredith
Dating while grieving
Some extra info from the LW (at noon): "The tragedy was a parental figure taking their own life after years of suffering from mental illness, leaving young children behind. I am in therapy, but there's a lot going on. Things are starting to slow down, I have a little more time to myself, but I'm still struggling."
Q: Advice columns are my guilty pleasure, but I've always been a lurker, never a writer, so I'm not sure where to begin. I guess some background.
I'm an attractive girl in my late 20s with a successful career that I'm proud of. I have an amazing family and great friends. I date enough, but not a lot, and am usually the one to walk away.
I suffered a tragedy a couple of months ago and am still grieving. I have a lot of additional responsibilities now, but I take them on willingly because of what it means for those suffering around me. But I'm incredibly lonely.
Grief is one of the loneliest emotions in the world. But is it the only reason for my loneliness? Should I ignore it until I'm in a healthier and stronger mental state? The thought of having someone who makes me their No. 1 priority and supports me while I support those around me makes me want someone -- but dating can also be
dreadfully lonely.
What do I do? Wait? I'm sad, and my heart is already broken, and I'm alone despite some amazing people around me. Will dating help or hurt? Could I even form a healthy attachment?
– Grief is the loneliest number, Boston
A: GITLN, I know that you have many responsibilities right now. I mean, you didn't give us any specifics about the cause of all of this grief, but it sort of doesn't matter. You're quite obviously under a lot of stress right now, and you have people depending on you.
But despite all of that, despite those important responsibilities, you have to make sure that you're having some fun, being a twenty-something, and meeting some new people. You won't be any good to the people who are depending on you if you don't have some time that's all about you. Really.
And part of that selfish time should be about love, which is why you have to keep dating. This loss hasn't turned you into a person who shouldn't find a partner. It's just turned you into a person with a better perspective of what she wants.
You can't put dating on hold until you're in a better place. And it’s not about whether dating will help or hurt, as you put it. Dating -- and looking to love other people -- is just a part of living. You have to let yourself live.
And when the dating gets lonely, talk about it with friends. That's what they're there for right now -- to give you some time to think and talk about yourself.
Readers? Should she wait to date until she's grieving less? Are these feelings of loneliness and wanting a partner about new priorities or her loss? Should people date while they're dealing with a big life change? Discuss.
– Meredith
Falling for a married man
Q: I am a divorced woman in my early 30s. I am of the mindset that you can fall in love several times, especially when the right person comes around. For the last three years, I've had an increasingly friendly relationship with a coworker who is married.
Because of the nature of our work, we have spent many hours together in social settings. In the last year, our relationship became closer, as we would text, email, and discuss everyday minutia and work. We would also find ourselves running errands or doing activities together that we both enjoy.
Eventually, our relationship changed. He confided in me that his life at home was not good and that he had feelings for me. At this point I backed off and told him that he should concentrate on his life and work things out at home. I always had feelings for him, but I knew that he was married and that I had to keep those feelings to myself.
That lasted a very short time. I felt such a connection to him and it was difficult to go back to that "he's not available" mindset knowing that he had feelings for me. At that point it seemed like things intensified. Before we knew it, we were right back in an inappropriate relationship. After some time, I again tried to stop communication with him, but because of work, would still end up around him where he would say things that would lead me to believe that he wasn't sure what was going on with his relationship.
I know that he is married, I know that he isn't going to leave his wife, but there is a part of me that can't let go of the connection we have. If he were single, this would be an amazing relationship. I've been miserable not being able to talk with him and so we recently met to digest everything that has happened over the last months and mutually decided that we could remain friends, but without the constant contact we had been having. He also made it very clear that his relationship with his wife is still undecided. My question is, is it morally wrong for me to remain friends with him? Or should I just do the strong woman thing and move on and forget?
It isn't easy for me to find meaningful relationships. My struggle is that I know deep down inside that I may be keeping him close just in case ... just in case he does leave his wife or just in case it makes it easier for him to leave his wife. I don't want to be a homewrecker, but I also don't want to lose a very meaningful relationship in my life either. I know that the rational thing to do is to stop all communication with him and move on, but my heart is telling me otherwise.
– Knows the Right Thing to Do but Hopeful, NYC
A: It's probably morally wrong to continue a friendship with him, but that's not why I want you to cut him off. I want you to cut him off because this is a bad friendship for you. It's one big tease. It involves too much effort and too much hope, and I'm not convinced that either of you are capable of setting real boundaries.
I know it's frustrating. You finally got to know someone you like, fell for him, found out that he reciprocated those feelings … and there's nothing you can do about it. But it is what it is. He's married and you're a single person who has to take care of herself. This is one of those awful situations where you have to ignore your heart and let your brain to do the talking.
I recommend minimizing him as much as you possibly can. You don't have to give him a dramatic speech about cutting him off. Just ban yourself from texts and calls. Make plans with real friends who can keep you busy. Try to develop a crush -- even if it's on a celebrity. Start training your brain to think about someone else's face when you start to daydream.
Every time you second guess yourself, write down the facts. "He is married." "He has a wife." Reality lists always help.
And remember, you're only in your early 30s. You've already had two meaningful relationships -- the one with your ex, and the one with this guy. There will be others, and you have plenty of time to find them.
Readers? Is she allowed to be his friend? What should happen here? Will this guy leave his wife? Does it matter? Is her age relevant? Discuss.
– Meredith
Dating a recent widower
Q: Hey Meredith,
More than a year ago I began dating a recent widower. By recent I mean that he had lost his wife less than six months prior. I knew him vaguely through work, never knew her. At the time, I had sworn off dating and was pretty focused on raising my kids and enjoying the occasional weekend they were with their dad. But I agreed to a *date* under the pretense that this would be dating, no relationship, no happily ever after. Then those pesky feelings got in the way.
So the issue: When we are together, we have a great time. Lots of fun and laughs. We will have three to four great weeks, then he'll suddenly pull back. I've got some severe whiplash. Since we've been together, neither of us has dated anyone else and we are viewed by friends and family as a couple. We talk every day and see each other two to four times a week.
After the latest falling out, we spent a few weeks "not seeing each other" but still talking/texting daily. We both got to air a lot of grievances/fears, etc. In the end, he concluded that yes, he did want me in his life. And he has made an effort to be more of a friend to me, be more supportive of my emotional needs (and honestly, I'm rarely needy). While he is seemingly doing what I asked ... how crazy is it that I had to ask in the first place?
I'm struggling with how I feel about this summer's vacation plans. The week my kids are visiting their father, new guy is going to an island for a week with six couples and their kids. I am completely understanding that these were *couple* friends. He went on this trip last summer and was miserable feeling like the 13th wheel all the time. So, after what will be a year and a half of dating, am I wrong to feel left out on this trip? We've spent holidays together with both sets of kids. I've met his family, he's met mine. I know all of the friends going and have bent over backwards to befriend them (still way outside of that loop). I don't want to sound whiny, but I rarely ever have time without my kids in tow (maybe two weeks total a year, usually in one-night increments). It seems to me like serendipity that I would be able to go ... but no invite. I accept the possibility that his kids are not comfortable, in which case, I would understand completely, but he says they like me and are OK with our relationship.
I find myself wondering if I am staying with him merely because it's fun to get out once in a while and make grilled cheese. I will also add that this quasi-relationship is the longest one I've had, besides my marriage ... so I wonder if I'm holding on to something that isn't, just because he's been around so long.
– when it's good, it's very, very good, but when it's bad, it's awful, Florida
A: I wouldn't worry about the trip. I know that it's upsetting to be left out, but for all you know, your boyfriend and these couples spend half the week reminiscing about his late wife. It might be their time to mourn. It sounds like your boyfriend is doing all that he can to keep you around but that bringing you on this trip crosses a widower line that he's just not read to hop over. I wish he had communicated that to you, but all of this is so new to him. He barely understands his own feelings. I'm not shocked that he can't explain them to you.
Your job -- while he's gone -- is to think about your feelings for him. My guess is that you're in this for more than grilled cheese, but you don't seem sure. So figure that out. When he's gone, are you missing him -- or are you just missing a warm body? When you think about your ideal future, is he in it?
If you do want him around, you have to be patient. You're dating a recent widower. He's processing a major loss while figuring out how to be a boyfriend to someone new. I'm surprised that he's done as well as he has. All adult-with-children relationships have hiccups, second guessing of priorities, mistakes, pauses, and some weird feelings. That's just how it goes. Your issues with him are going to be extra sensitive and awkward because he's coping with a death.
All you can do is work on communication. Assure him that he can be honest with you about anything, and assure yourself that you can ask questions – politely. You should have asked, "Should I feel weird that I wasn't invited on this trip?" And he should have answered, "My friends and I are just not ready." And then you should have said, “I understand. I hope that someday, I can join you."
Stay empathetic and keep the discussion flowing. In your situation, a year and a half isn't a very long time. If you want this, you have to be willing to wait.
Readers? Should she be upset about this vacation? Should she continue this relationship? Discuss.
– Meredith
He popped up in my dream
Please spend some time with yesterday's updates. They're good.
Q: Dear Meredith,
My ex-boyfriend and I had gone out for about six years and things were not great. He found someone else. I have not met anyone else since. I spend time on a dating site but haven't had any success (chatted with some of the members through the site or thru e-mail, but I have only met one member in person). I'm a single parent/workaholic, so my personal life and work life keep me busy. I try to relax by watching movies at home or shopping. On occasion I volunteer for an organization. I have also become involved with a "Meet Up" group. Basically, I'm not twiddling my thumbs.
I'm currently reading a book titled "Conversations with God," and so far what I've taken from it is that you create your own reality. So yesterday evening, I decided to not think about my ex. After I made that decision, I immediately stopped thinking about him and I felt comfortable, at ease, and OK doing so -- no issues. What do you know? I went to bed, fell asleep, and "dreamt" about him. He was in my dream the entire time, sitting at a table with someone else (another male figure?). I was occupied in my dream, maybe 50 feet or so away from the table, running around doing things here and there. I never had contact with my ex in my dream. I just knew that he was "there."
I have to also mention here that he did tell me, in real life, not to contact him after we broke up.
What is the significance of him appearing in my dream when I made a conscious decision to let go of him in "real life." Maybe the answer is as clear as day -- but I don't see it right now.
– Bothered and Bewildered in Boston (BABIB)
A: The answer is as clear as day, BABIB. Just because you tell yourself not to think about your ex doesn't mean that he's out of your subconscious. In fact, by forcing yourself not to think about him, you're thinking about him, aren't you? It reminds me of my favorite lines by Edna St. Vincent Millay.
And entering with relief some quiet place
Where never fell his foot or shone his face
I say, "There is no memory of him here!"
And so stand stricken, so remembering him!
Poetry is cool. Sometimes.
My point is, the dream doesn't tell you anything that you don't already know. You think about your ex, especially when you close your eyes. You can create your own reality all you want, but you can't control your brain once you fall asleep. I had a dream last week that I made out with Steve Martin. That's not me creating my own reality. That's just me watching too much TV.
My advice is to keep doing what you're doing -- and maybe meet a few more of those online suitors in person. It's tough to get to know someone over email. See if you can fit some more dating time into your busy schedule.
And know that dreams only mean as much as you want them to. Your ex is as important as the other, unidentifiable guy in your dream. Maybe it's the other guy who you should be spending your time thinking about. Who was that mysterious man?
Readers? Why was her ex in her dream? Does it mean anything? Can anyone help this letter writer make sense of what happens when she goes to sleep? Should she be having more in-person dates? Thoughts about creating your own reality? Discuss.
– Meredith
My ex's texts bother my boyfriend
I'll run an update or two on Monday. Letter writers: If you want to send me an update to run with the others, please do. Just sent it from the original email address so I know it's you. We'd all love to hear from you.
Q: I am a year out of college and still working at my first job, which I love. Right after I began working here (a month or so) I began a causal relationship with a co-worker, Max. I know, I know, terrible idea. And it was. He did not treat me well. Though we weren't exclusive, he was actively hiding that he was sleeping with other girls, and he pretty much walked all over me. I thought I really liked him, which is why I hung on. This went on for about six months until I met Jake.
Jake and I met in December and were instantly attracted to each other. Even though I was still a bit caught up in Max, things there were fizzling, I knew I wanted them to be over, and I really liked Jake right away. We started hanging out all the time, and within a month or so we were dating exclusively. Only once during the period before we were in a serious relationship did I slip and hook up with Max. During that time period, though, Jake also had a few nights of his own.
Fast forward to now. Jake and I are completely in love. We spend every night together, talk for hours, make each other laugh, and support each other. We are each other's closest friends right now and we are constantly talking about how lucky we are. This is the healthiest relationship I have ever been in, and without a doubt the most fulfilling.
Here's the problem: Max is still in my life (we still work together) and still flirts with me nonstop. Most of this takes place at work, but he does occasionally text me outside of work. This drives Jake insane. We have had countless fights about it, and I have explained over and over that I do not have feelings for Max, that he is just a friend (and I really mean that), and that what I have with Jake is so much more important. After we have a fight like that, he says OK and we move on. But it keeps coming up. At least once a week it comes up. I am so tired of having the same argument, tired of feeling like I am hurting Jake, but I don't know how else to prove that I love him and that Max means nothing to me in comparison.
Max is still my friend -- we get along well and enjoy each other's company. I don't feel like I should have to cut him out of my life. I am trustworthy, would never, ever betray Jake, and am willing to be totally open with Jake (show him the texts, etc.). I should admit here that I did used to hide that Max and I still talked -- but that was because I feared Jake would get upset over something that I knew was nothing. Now I know to be open and honest. Still, every time I get a text from Max it ruins our whole evening together. How do I make him believe, for good, that I am faithful, and that he has nothing to worry about? I can say it until my face turns blue, but that seems to be just a temporary solution.
– Stuck, Allston
A: I'm on Jake's side, Stuck. You have to see Max every day because you work with him, but there's no reason for you to be texting him. He's just some guy you dated who continues to flirt with you to imply that at any moment, something physical could happen again. He's not a real friend.
This is your first post-college relationship lesson. You're not entitled to keep exes around just because you're honest with your new boyfriend about it. Showing Jake the texts doesn't mean that it's OK to communicate with Max after work. You can't do whatever you want anymore. You're in a grown-up partnership. Annoying, right?
Your two options: Stop texting Max and limit your interaction with him to the workplace, or tell Jake that you're just not ready for an exclusive, mature, adult relationship. It's really one or the other. Jake isn't being unreasonable about Max. You wouldn't want Jake texting some flirtatious ex, would you?
Be honest with yourself about what you want right now. Are you ready to do what's best for you and Jake – as opposed to just you? If so, set boundaries with Max. It's that simple. Sorry.
Readers? Is she allowed to be friends with Max? Is Jake being unreasonable? Can you explain the post-college rules of being a couple? Does it help that she shows Jake the texts? Discuss.
– Meredith
I don't want to have children
Q: Hi Meredith, love the column!
From what I've read in the comments, it seems that at 23 I'm considered a baby by the LL crowd. Yet, even at this age I am thoroughly convinced that I don't want any children and most likely will NEVER want any. Of course, I recognize that I'm still young and that people change, but I feel this way for many reasons (I won't bore you with my exhaustive list). Ultimately, while I don't dislike children in general, I'm just not any good with them. I admire the mothers of this world (including my own), but I'm seriously not up for parenting myself.
I've made my feelings on this subject abundantly clear to my friends, family, and boyfriend. (Let's call him Charlie.) We've been dating for over a year now and we're very happy. Charlie accepts how I feel about having kids and acknowledges that I have legitimate reasons for feeling that way, and he agrees that he doesn't want children right now (thank goodness!). However, Charlie keeps mentioning that there's a possibility that he will want children someday but that he's not sure how much he might want them. Just last night, he tried to open up a discussion about life with/without children, and he told me that he can't really imagine that spending your life doing anything other than raising kids could be "worthwhile."
Charlie's almost 30, and it seems that already his biological man-clock is ticking. He's said that he could be happy just being Uncle Charlie -- but the fact that he keeps bringing up this topic makes me think that he actually REALLY REALLY wants kids and is just trying to change my mind. He's told me before that he wants to spend the rest of his life with me.
When does this situation become a deal-breaker? Am I supposed to just wait until he realizes I'm not going to change my mind? I believe that if he wants a family, then he deserves one. I don't want to invest myself in this relationship for years and years if it's going to blow up spectacularly when his man-clock goes off.
– Child-Free and Happy, Somerville
A: It's time to talk to Charlie about how you want to spend the next five to ten years. Forget the kids for a minute and think about the immediate future. Do you want to travel? Move? Go back to school? He needs to understand where you are in life. You've only been dating for about a year and it doesn't sound like marriage is even on the table for you right now. Does he understand that, CFAH?
After that discussion, look at him right in the eyes and say, "I love you. I want to be with you right now. But I don't want to make a baby with you. And while I might change my mind in a decade or so, I probably won't. And I don't want to be ditched by you when I turn 29 because you realize when you're 36 that you're desperate for a kid."
I know that all of this information is sort of out there already and hovering over both of you like a dirty diaper, but it needs to be stated clearly so that you both get what all of this means.
See if your five-year plan appeals to him at all. If it doesn't, you're just in two different places. You're 23. He can't make you 30 just because he is. In your situation, age really matters. You're not his peer. He needs to respect that and plan accordingly.
Readers? Will she change her mind? Should Charlie be dating someone his own age? Is it possible that he could be happy without kids? Should they break up or wait this out to see if their desires change? Discuss.
– Meredith
I have to get over my friend
I won't be in the office for chat today, but Glenn Yoder will there to moderate. Enjoy him.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I have been friends with "Matt" for about 7 years. We are both in our mid-30s, have wonderful time together, and appreciate each other's company. A few years after we became friends, I started to like him and expressed my interest. He was interested and we dated. But after a month or two, he just went silent ... no calls, txts, e-mails. We would see each other after a while and he would act like nothing had happened.
I was crushed and tried to move on, and after a while we got back to being friends again. I dated a few guys, one of them for a little over a year, but in all honesty, I just wanted to be with Matt. During that time, he didn't date anyone.
Time would go by and Matt and I would start flirting and having friendly dates and then ... déjà vu! It all happened again. We were dating, having grilled cheeses, and after a while he would go silent and that's was it. He would then resurface like nothing happened and would not even address the situation we were in. I stopped seeing him with the intention of moving on with my life without him, even as a friend. Meredith, the more I tried to put distance in all ways imaginable, the more I missed him and it hurt.
In trying to figure things out, I decided to accept the fact that he wasn't into me or wasn't ready for a relationship. We got together to talk and it was clear that while we didn't work as a couple, he didn't want to lose me as a friend.
I still love him, and that's why I am writing to you. I really want to stop loving him the way I do. Is it possible to remain friends while I try to stop my feelings for him? It hurts to be with him as just friends, but I know that this phase is going to pass at some point. I just feel bad if I have to completely cut him off because we were friends a few years before we started dating. Is our friendship ruined?
– Just Friends Forever, Cambridge
A: The friendship isn't ruined, JFF, it's just evolving. Relationships change all of the time. The one you have with Matt just needs to be minimized at the moment.
Telling Matt that you need to bow out of his life for a bit doesn't mean that he'll be gone forever. It just means that you can't keep him close to you for now. You need to separate yourself from him, but it'll be easier if you stop thinking about this as a loss. He's just taking on a new role, the one of a close friend who needs to be ignored because he ditches you after making out with you. (It would be great if he could wear a name tag that said all of that.)
So yes, you need to ditch him, at least temporarily. And then you need to allow yourself to get angry at him. He was a bad friend to disappear after intimacy. You're supposed to be ticked off, and angry feelings will help put this whole thing in perspective.
Prepare for your own feelings to change as you go through the process. You might hate Matt for a bit, forgive him, move on, and then decide that the friendship you thought was great and entertaining was really just a multi-year flirtation. You might find that Matt is a better acquaintance than friend. Again, you just have to let this whole thing evolve. You said you know that this phase will pass at some point. Please let yourself get to the next phase. Do what you need to do to make it happen.
Just don't think of it as a loss. That's what's messing with your head. Really, it's just a change.
Readers? How can she get over this? Does she have to cut him off? Is this friendship ruined or am I right to say that it's just changing? Is Matt worth all of this trouble? Discuss.
– Meredith
He wants to move back to the UK
Q: My longtime boyfriend is from the UK, and despite having lived in Boston for years, he has just sprung on me that he is homesick, that his homesickness is making him depressed, and he wants to move back. I had hoped that by this point in our relationship we'd be talking about building a life together.
I'm reluctant to go with him, not only because I fear his depression might be chemical -- then I'd be moving to a foreign country with someone who might not even want to go back there for the right reasons -- but also because I love the US and want it to be my home. My problem here is that I love my boyfriend more than I can explain ... but I don't want him to stay if he truly thinks he'll be happy back in the UK.
Instead of wanting to up and move soon, he's talking about doing it in the fall/winter, meaning we will be together until then, knowing the relationship is going nowhere.
Compounding things is that he says he hasn't made a decision but that he's weighing his options. I'm confused. I don't want to split up with him because while he's here, I want to spend as much time with him as I can. I also realize that he can get better with counseling (which he has agreed to do) and that he may decide he's not as unhappy here as he thinks. Which is another reason I'm hanging on. Am I wasting my time?
– Confused in Love, Boston
A: You're just going to have to wait this one out, CIL. Because you'll get all of the answers you need in the next few months.
It's possible that he'll spend the rest of the summer preparing for a move without considering your feelings. It's possible that he'll lobby you to move with him and come up with a plan for keeping you both happy in the UK. It's possible that you'll get so fed up with his wishy-washy feelings that you'll decide to end the relationship no matter what. It's also possible that after getting some counseling, he'll decide that he's actually happy here. Maybe.
That's why the next few months are a gift. They'll give you time to determine his motives and to do some soul-searching about what you're really willing to do for this relationship. Because even if he stays, it's possible that he'll want to move back when he's older.
My big fear is that he's going to look at you this October and say, "I'll decide next summer." He's already dragging his feet about making a decision that would require planning and paperwork.
If you know that you'd rather lose him than move for him, this relationship probably isn't worth the hassle. Take these next few months to consider your own needs. And set some boundaries. He can't keep you (or himself) in limbo with this decision forever. You shouldn't be debating this in 2012.
Readers? Should she end this now or wait to see what he wants to do? If he decides to stay, are they in the clear? Or will these issues come up again? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm still thinking about her
Q: "Matilda" and I (both late 20s) dated for a year. She was the only woman I can say I have ever loved (and I guess I still do). We had serious talks about marriage, etc. Long story short, we had to do the long-distance thing because of grad school and she did something that was a deal-breaker. We broke up (and I should add this now -- there is no way I would ever date her again, damage is done, pride took over).
Fast forward a year and a half. I have been doing everything I can think of to move on; talking to friends and family, anti-depressants, working out heavily, focusing on school work, dating at the gym, dating at work/school, flirting at bars, online dating, playing in sports leagues, going out with friends, avoiding her at all costs (I tried being friends at first, didn't work, too much pain, making me the ex that avoids but still thinks about the person), and not dating and just having fun on my own.
All these things do make me feel better in the short term, but at the end of the day, I still think about her every day. She is the first thing that pops in my head when I wake up and last thing that I think of before bed. Although over time I start to feel better with the lack of contact, she contacts me every few months to say hi and all the emotions come rushing back. I always tell her to give me space but I end up becoming depressed and anxious, literally at the snap of a finger, hearing her voice. I feel at a loss as to why things ended, when it seemed like it was supposed to be forever (I should add that avoiding her hasn't been that easy either. Now that we are back in the same area again (school reasons, cant relocate), we work in the same system and in the same field so everything around me is a reminder of her. Plus, I occasionally have to see her and the reason why we broke up).
To quote "Californication," this is how I feel:
Movie Karen: Why does he love her so much? I mean what is it about her?
Hank: I don't know. I don't think I've ever known. I think sometimes you get it right the first time and then it defines your life. It becomes who you are.
So I guess my question is this: What am I doing wrong? Why can't I move on? It's been enough time, I remind myself of the negatives constantly (and there are more than enough), I date around, keep busy, and really do make an effort not to think about her. It's like I have put her in a pedestal and no matter what I do, I haven't been able to knock her down. My brain is saying move on, don't be weak, don't be pathetic, have some pride, love yourself more, but my heart is stuck in neutral. Do I like to suffer? Why am I stuck on these questions and not just accepting things for what they are? Is it just a matter of finding someone else, or should I just embrace it and be like Hank Moody, get myself into crazy shenanigans with the ladies???
– Stuck in Neutral, NYC
A: This is taking forever, SIN, because you're in love with her, you thought you were going to marry her, and she pulled the rug out from under you.
There's always going to be a part of you that asks, "Could she have redeemed herself?" There's always going to be a part of you that longs for the life you had before that betrayal.
My advice is to stop avoiding her. I'm not saying that you should make lunch plans with her, but this whole "avoiding her at all costs" thing has turned her into some powerful, make-believe monster.
Also, grief is addictive. It's a legitimate feeling and we have to deal with it, but we also have to watch ourselves to make sure that it doesn't become a part of our routine forever. Can you read before bed instead of thinking about her? Can you fall asleep to a TV show she hated? Train your brain to think about other things.
Really, you're doing quite well. You're living your life and having fun. It sounds like you just haven't met anyone who makes you laugh enough to distract you. You will. It just takes a long time. So keep dating. You don't have to be Hank, but you can be someone who's funny, cute, getting over and ex, and looking for nice company. The rest will sort itself out, I swear. There's no pill to make it go faster. All of this is normal.
Readers? How can the letter writer be less sad about Matilda? Should they have broken up? Is the letter writer on the right track? What are Matilda's motives when she checks in? Discuss.
– Meredith
He cheats the system
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Update news at 11:22 a.m.: The letter writer has an update on comment pg. 15.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I am occasionally dating a guy, "Matt," who is well-rounded, intelligent, ambitious, and caring. We are both in our early 30s. He is family-oriented and takes care of the people around him. He has been patiently pursuing me for quite a long time. He lives in a different city but he makes a point to come here to see me. Nothing hot and heavy yet, which is fine because I wanted to take it slow to understand if I really liked him just as a friend or as something more. We haven't progressed to a relationship partly because we live in different cities, but mostly because of my lingering doubts about a few issues.
Matt is a great guy but has the tendency to push the boundaries as far as he can. He is fairly materialistic and success-oriented. He has told me a few anecdotes where he has told "white lies" or has omitted information in order to achieve a better status or situation. He does not do so in any way that would hurt another person, but to "work the system." As he says, it is a dog eat dog world sometimes and to get ahead you can't comply with every bureaucratic rule. And this approach is probably what makes him successful by a traditional definition. He is willing to take those small "harmless" risks.
After 30 years, I have come to realize that it is not my place to judge him, but rather to understand what I'm comfortable surrounding myself with. I am very risk adverse. Not that I always follow every rule or never tell a white lie, but I tend to minimize the potential that something could go wrong, particularly for important things like my job or my house. I'll lie and tell you that your outfit is cute or dinner was great, but don't like to fib on a signed document. I'd rather be conservative and live moderately then live the high life and wonder if a negative consequence could pop up. I realize this trait makes me less fun-loving at times and I miss out on some opportunities in life.
This is the one issue with Matt that I'm trying to reconcile. Do you think I am making way too much out of the issue? My more adventurous friends find his white lies "funny" and my more straight laced friends see it as a red flag.
He once jokingly told me that one of the reasons he likes me is because I am so grounded and that I am like his conscience. Shouldn't he have his own conscience???
– Little White Lies, Boston
A: This is a big yellow flag, LWL. You have to trust your gut, and your gut doesn't like how this guy makes important decisions.
We all tell tiny lies and "work the system" at some point, and what's OK for one person seems like a crime to someone else. I once saw a friend of mine ring up avocados as less-expensive oranges on the self check-out line at a grocery store. That killed me. In my mind, it was full-on shoplifting. I was convinced that we were going to be locked up for a massive fruit heist. But ... on Saturday, at the airport, I told the people at customs that I didn't buy anything in Ireland even though my suitcase contained Irish chocolate and stuffed animals for my friends' kids. I just didn't want to wait in a long line. It wasn't a big deal to me, but I'm sure it would have been to someone else.
My point is that in any relationship we wind up watching a partner do something that makes us uncomfortable. That's normal. But (and this is a big but) it shouldn't happen frequently.
It sounds like you're questioning Matt's decisions all of the time and that you're uncomfortable with the way he makes choices that would affect your life if you lived with him.
It doesn't help matters that he's far away. If you lived in the same city you'd have a better understanding of his boundaries and whether you can make peace with them.
Unless he's going to live closer to you and show you what he's really made of, you have to trust what your gut knows now. You can't spend your life being uneasy and hoping that your partner doesn't do something that makes you want to hide under your bed.
You're right -- it's not your job to judge. It is your job to be honest about what you can put up with. And you can't keep stringing him (or yourself) along if you can't deal with his ethics.
Readers? Is there any hope here? Is she being a prude? Does anyone out there have to live with their partner's unethical choices? Is distance an issue here? Discuss.
– Meredith
His family won't accept me
Q: Meredith,
I've been dating my boyfriend for almost a year and we moved very quickly into a serious relationship. It didn't feel quick to us, though. It just felt natural so I went with it. The problem isn't the fact that we were finishing each other's sentences the day we met or that we moved in together after six months because it just made sense all around. The problem is, and I suspect will continue to be, his parents' acceptance of our relationship.
His mother is perfectly polite and never rude to me when I go to visit them, but she has told Steve that we are moving too fast, that we spend too much time together, and that she is terrified I will get pregnant and ruin his life. I have been as warm and as open to her as my family raised me to be, but I have not gotten the same warmth and openness back. I can handle making progress slowly and just being my naturally effervescent self, but I cannot spend my entire life feeling like I'm kept at a polite distance and never really feeling like his parents -- his mother, especially -- see me as an important part of their son's life, rather than a passing phase.
To give you an idea of the familial differences, what impresses his mother is perfect etiquette and a quiet demeanor. My family is loud, often offensively so, and extremely open. Steve's slightly intimidated by my family and their exuberance, but I'm turned off by his family's meekness and formality. I've always known my parents were in love and more in love every day, whereas Steve's always known that marriage means an instant end to romance and passion. My family has never made him feel anything less than totally a part of us, but my hope that I'll ever feel like a part of his family is dying.
He just informed me that his mother is making plans to go on a trip with his father, his brother, and him this winter. I feel hurt and excluded by this. It feels like a deliberate slight, a way for her to say that her family hasn't changed and to minimize the relationship that I have with her son. Even if it is not deliberate, it is still incredibly insensitive. I don't want to alienate Steve or his mother, but I'm also not comfortable with him going on this trip without me for the holidays, or with being excluded from his family life. We're in our mid-20s and his mother is treating this like a high school relationship. I don't know how to bring this up since Steve is fiercely protective of his mother and might not see this as odd. It is strange and DOES make me feel uncomfortable. What do I say that isn't going to hurt anyone's feelings? How do I even bring this up? What do I say to make it not seem like I'm trying to take him away from his family in favor of my own?
– His Family Dislikes Me, Boston, Boston
A: My first piece of advice, HFDM, is to accept that your boyfriend is going to go on this trip without you and that it's not a big deal. I understand that you're offended, but his family needs some time alone with him. And frankly, without you there, his mom will be able to ask him questions about the relationship, which will give him the chance to tell her some nice things about you. Also, if you don't make a stink about this trip, his mom will know that you respect her need for bonding time with her son. Everyone's afraid of losing their kid to a romantic partner. I think his mom is just scared to death of what you represent.
My second piece of advice is to tell Steve that you want to be closer to his family and that you need his help. Rather than giving him a list of gripes about how you've been treated, ask him for advice about how to get to know them better without being too pushy. He'll probably have some good ideas -- and he'll appreciate the request.
My third piece of advice is to be patient. His mom isn't going to fall for you as quickly as you fell for her son. A year isn't a very long time. Reevaluate all of this in six months. And in the meantime, don’t get pregnant and ruin his life. (Kidding.)
Readers? How long will it take for them to accept her? Should she be upset about this trip? Help.
– Meredith
Is it unhealthy to use him as a placeholder?
Q: Hi Meredith,
I'm a 27-year old professional who has her act together in every way -- except dating. I feel like I should be in a different place than I am and I’m struggling a bit with the rules. Let me explain.
My last long term relationship ended three years ago. Since then, I've taken time for myself. Although I still have some work to do in the area of self-discovery, I've been on a whole host of first and second dates. A few have turned into, "Hey, I actually like you," … but as soon as they start wanting more from me, namely spending more time together or wanting to become exclusive, I bail.
About a year ago, I met a guy, "Ryan." The chemistry was great and we were together for about 9 months. It worked because we both traveled a lot for work and we were able to keep our independence. He was also the first person in a while that I actually wanted to spend more time with -- but he was clear that he didn't have any more to give (note: I could give you a list of reasons, but suffice it to say, he has commitment issues -- I saw it early on, but accepted that as part of him). I was hurt. We broke it off and I told him I needed some space. I went back to dating other people and found myself in the same pattern as before.
Ryan has recently come back into the picture. We've talked, hung out a few times, and as always, have had a blast together. So I have a few questions -- is it weird that when presented with good guys who want to commit that I'm not interested? Or have I just not found that *right* person for me yet? Is it OK for me to continue to see Ryan because I enjoy his company even though I know he can't give me what I need? Or will he get in the way of being able to connect with someone else?
– Looking for a Little Direction, Boston
A: Let's start with your question about Ryan, LFALD. Are you secretly hoping that he will become a good boyfriend this time around? When you leave him after an outing do you wonder when you'll see him next? Do you think about him more than once a day? Does Ryan take up nights that should be spent with other people (friends or dates)?
If you answered yes to at least three of those questions, I'd consider a ban on Ryan. He's taking up important space in your head. And without Ryan, some of these other guys might seem a bit more appealing.
And that brings me to your other question, the one about wanting what you can't have and vice versa. I'm not so worried about that. You just haven't found anyone you're afraid to lose. At some point, you will. You're just not there yet. Trust me, when you meet someone who's really great, the fear of loss should trump the fear of commitment. Relax about that stuff and focus on the Ryan issue. You don't want to string yourself along.
Readers? Can she see Ryan casually? Is it bad that she wants the person she can't have? Are placeholders always bad? Is it possible that Ryan could come around? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm paranoid about cheating
One more time. Congrats, Bruins.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I've been dating a wonderful man for just over a year. He is so smart, fun, funny and kind, and has really become my very best friend. I really adore him and hope that we can have a life together. One thing that could really get in the way of that is the fact that I am jealous and tend to suspect the worst.
Here's some background: I have had one other multi-year relationship. I was young and he was in the military. The majority of our time "together" was long distance. He was very charming and always said the right thing (which helped him get out of a large number of sketchy situations). He also had a wandering eye and a very flirty personality. I don't know everything that went on while he was stationed elsewhere, but I do know he was sleeping with at least one other person. I was the very best girlfriend to him that I could be. I wrote frequent letters, picked my brain for care package ideas, and supported him when he was deployed. You can imagine I was devastated when I confirmed that he was cheating.
I guess since I haven't had a lot of other positive, healthy relationship experiences, I expect to be cheated on. I expect a man who tells me he loves me to betray me. In every other part of my life I am extremely confident. I'm outgoing, pretty, and good at my job. There's nothing any other girl would have that I DON'T have, yet I expect to be cheated on.
My current boyfriend knows about my past and knows that I was left a little damaged. He's very patient with me, and responds well to my interrogations (Why were you there so long? Were there girls there? Who are you texting? etc, etc). We have great communication and he always encourages me to share what's on my mind. I'm just waiting for the day that he throws up his hands and says he's done. I know it's irrational. I know that he is like night and day to my ex. He loves me and tells me often that he wants a life with me. But ... my ex told me that, too. How can I work toward believing I won't be cheated on? I don't want to sabotage this relationship because I love him so much, but I'm waiting to be played a fool.
– Painfully Paranoid, Boston
A: He might cheat on you, PP. I mean, for all I know he's cheating on you right now with six very beautiful women who have perfect measurements and PhDs. Totally possible. But not probable.
He doesn't have a wandering eye (right?). He doesn't charm you to get out of trouble (right?). He's not living far away and in a high stress situation. He's right in front of your face behaving like a best friend and putting up with your crazy questions.
You know better. You know that your ex's betrayals weren't about you. You know that your current boyfriend doesn't want to risk losing a good partner.
So the question is: How do you stop the obsessive jealous behavior? The answer: A new routine. Self-control. It's just like dieting. In the beginning, you have to force yourself to tame you desires, but after time, it becomes natural. You begin to crave strawberries instead of a full cheesecake. You watch two hours of television instead of wondering where your boyfriend might be.
Start by making a list of good, honest things about your relationship. I know it seems silly, but do it. Take it out every time you start to go nuts. Sleep with that list if you have to.
And if you find that the jealousy is still taking over your life, see a professional. Sooner than later. Talk about cognitive behavioral therapy. It might be something to consider.
Readers? Is she going to lose him because of jealousy? How can she stop her brain from jumping to the worst conclusion? Is jealousy addictive? How long would you put up with a jealous partner? Discuss.
– Meredith
Am I holding out for nothing?
Chat at 1. With Glenn Yoder. I'll be on my way to Galway. And maybe stopping here for Love Letters research, just to see the town.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I met "John" a few years ago when we were working together. I'm definitely not one of those corny romantics who believe in love at first sight, but there was definitely something at first meeting that I've never had with anyone else.
We dated for a couple months, and it was fantastic. He took such good care of me, we had a great time, but we knew we were doomed to fail since he told me when we first met that he was moving to pursue a dream of opening up his business with a buddy. So he left, I was sad, we resumed texting/talking for a couple months and I just assumed it would fizzle out and it would take it's natural course, and I would move on.
But, I was wrong.
We've always kept in contact, and while I've had two relationships since he's moved away, it doesn't compare to what we had (which makes me feel completely nuts, I might add, since it was such a short time we were together, but I digress.) Not a holiday would go by, even small ones like Labor Day, where he wouldn't call me and see how I was doing. We would be in contact, even if we were seeing other people, at least once a week.
Recently, we've been talking every day. Every morning when I wake up, he wishes me a good morning, and we've been chatting on the phone every night. During our chats, he tells me how unhappy he is in his new city and how he wants to come home and be with his family and with me. He also says stuff like when he comes up here to visit, he wants to meet my family, wants me to meet his friends, etc. If I'm out with my friends, he checks in with me to make sure I'm being safe. And even though I'm sure he's just trying to be cute, has says we'll have kids and that they'll play in the NBA (we're both very, very tall). It's gotten to the point -- and again, I feel like a crazy person -- that I don't even want to go on dates with other people because I'm waiting for someone who lives many states away.
But it's not the first time he's alluded to moving back here. He's said it a few times, and then it never happens. And what's really thrown me for a loop is that as of the past couple of weeks, he's been saying too how he wants me to go down there. With my career, I can't leave New England, at least not right now, and would not be willing to drop everything and move for a person I dated for just a couple of months. I should also mention that I'm in my 20s and he's in his 30s, so in my opinion he should be thinking about settling down ... so maybe he means it this time ... but everyone is different so who knows.
I've always been a realistic dater, and my head usually trumps my heart, but for some reason, my heart keeps holding out for this guy, and I don't know why.
He's supposed to be coming up for a visit in a few weeks, and my question is this: Is it appropriate to talk to him about whether or not he is serious about moving up here? Am I being too naive about the whole situation and not dating until I figure out what happens with this situation? Is he telling me this stuff just to say it to someone because he's lonely? Should I nip it in the bud before I end up getting hurt or do I wait and see what happens with this "what if?" situation that's been going on for four years now? Help!
– Too Naive?, Boston
A: It is very, very, very appropriate to ask him what's up. It's also appropriate to ask him to give you a very specific timeline for his move. "Someday" isn't good enough. If he says that he wants to move to be closer to you, he should be able to tell you when. And if he can't, well, I'd assume that this isn't going anywhere. Because it's been four years and you can't put your life on hold. This is beginning to really mess with you. And his texts can't spoon you.
The lucky thing here is that he's on his way. No more waiting for answers. As soon as he gets to Boston and you've had a nice meal, ask your questions. Let your head to the talking. Because even your heart seems to be sick of the distance and his hazy plans for the future. Be bold. And be clear about the fact that you can't relocate. Probably ever.
If he seems interested but clueless and frustrated, try to help him come up with a plan. It's quite possible that he wants to breed NBA players with you but just doesn't know how to make all of this happen, emotionally or financially. It might help if you sit down together and say, "OK, how can we make this work -- and soon?" Make it a team effort.
For the record, I hope it works out. I love tall couples. And you're not crazy. There are obviously some very strong feelings here. But get your answers. It's time.
Readers? If he wanted to be with her, would he have moved? Does he seem great because he's far away? Should the letter writer's expectations be managed? Should he have to commit to a plan right now -- despite logistics? Discuss.
– Meredith
He's delaying my move
Good morning. Dublin is just like Boston except that "Bridesmaids" comes out later here. And they don't seem to have iced coffee.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I've gotten the same advice from nearly everyone I've asked, but I'm still looking for someone to tell me I'm not nuts.
My boyfriend of a year and a half is moving away to go to grad school in the fall. We're in our mid and late 20s. Our relationship is good -- not perfect, but that's another letter.
Bottom line is we don't want to break up but can't figure out a way to stay together. At first the plan was that I'd move with him (I work from home, and my employers have given me the green light to keep my job if I move). I've been itching to live somewhere different for a few years now, and the prospect of this new city and building a new life with my boyfriend is absolutely thrilling to me. But now he's decided that it would be better for both of us if I waited until his first semester is over to come down. Everyone we've tapped for second opinions seems to think this is logical -- I can visit and see if I like the city, he can see what he'll be like in this new high-pressure situation, etc.
That might be true for most couples, but here are my fears: 1) If he moves first, the city will always be "his." My boyfriend is outgoing, charismatic -- and territorial. Once he sets up his life there and I come down, I will always be a guest. Instead of discovering new places together and making friends together, he'll do it alone and then "show me around" when I'm there. His friends will always be his friends, never ours. Moreover, it will be a shock for him to have to make room in his new life for me, since he'll be used to seeing me once a month, and I worry that will cause resentment on his part and I'll end up walking on eggshells and feeling unwelcome.
2) The selfish fear that I will be hurt, jealous, and resentful as I hear about how he's settling in. It's already happening. It kills me when he talks about inside jokes from orientation weekend, the bars he likes, the concerts he wants to go to (even though he invited me to come down for them). I'm usually supportive -- I even encouraged him to choose this school despite of the problems it would cause between us because it obvious he really wanted it. I'd love to be a saint here and be supportive remotely and wait for him to be ready, but that just spells months of agony for me, followed by moving down there and into a likely miserable situation.
One thing we do agree on -- we don't live together now, and would continue to live separately if I moved. We think it would help each of us feel more independent in the new city, and moving in is another huge step altogether. So how do we agree what to do without ruining our chances together? Is the fact that this is so difficult a red flag?
Should we just cut our losses now and go our separate ways? I have to let my roommate and landlord know if I'll be signing the lease for September ASAP, so the pressure is really on and I'm completely overwhelmed.
Side note: Thanks for all the great advice you offer -- you do a lot of good and help a lot of people out there.
– Left in the Dust, Brighton
A: I side with you, LITD, and I'm surprised that all of your second opinion givers believe that you should wait to move. That doesn't make sense to me. You're going to have your own place in this new town. You'll be able to give your boyfriend space during school. You'll be doing your own thing -- but getting acclimated together. That should be ideal for him, right?
My guess is that he wants you to wait six months before moving so that he can decide whether he wants you there at all. And if that's the case he should say so. It wouldn't make him a bad person, just a tentative one. You both need to be able to discuss your real expectations for the relocation -- what it means and what will happen if it doesn't work. He might relax a bit if there's a Plan B.
If you're ready to go when he goes and you want to start living your own life in a new place, he shouldn't stand in your way. He's making you press pause and I'm not sure that's helping anyone.
Ask him what he's really waiting for. And then ask again so you get an honest answer.
Side note: You said that your relationship isn't perfect "but that's another letter." I'd like to read that letter. That stuff might be relevant to his opinion about the move and might explain why your friends want you to wait.
Readers? Does it make sense for her to wait? Should he have time to acclimate himself without having to be a good boyfriend to her? Am I missing something? Does it help or hurt matters that she'll be living on her own in this new place? Discuss. And suggest Irish songs of the day on Twitter.
– Meredith
He wants me to cut off my ex
I'm in Ireland. With family. Tracing my Goldstein roots through Galway. (Kidding. Not Irish.)
I'll be posting Love Letters at weird times, but I'll be reading comments and emails. And drinking. And eating stew. Continue on.
Q: I just went through a breakup with a guy I had dated for a few years. He was my first incredibly serious relationship and we both took the breakup really hard. However, after many months of heartbreak, screaming, and revealed secrets, I feel that we are finally at a place where we can be good friends. We have so much in common and we get along so well, it's not hard to see how this could possibly work as a friendship.
However, I have gotten to the point where I feel comfortable dating again. I have started dating one of my friends and we've been seeing each other for a couple of months. It's quite nice, although it's nothing serious yet. My ex has some jealousy and anger for this new guy but he never lashes out. The real problem is though that my new guy doesn't want me to see my ex. My new guy feels that two exes can never be friends and that my ex will just continue to hurt me (there were a lot of very public outbursts between my ex and I when we first broke up and we still occasionally have arguments over regret, guilt, and secrets). Recently he told me that I had to put my foot down and give my ex the final "no" to sever the ties.
I honestly don't know what to do in this situation. I really do love my ex, not as a lover or a boyfriend but as a person. I feel like severing the ties with him would cause me to lose a very important friendship. We both worked so hard to just remain friends I don't feel like I could throw all of that effort away. However, I do really care for this new guy (we were friends first, after all) and would really like to see if a potential relationship could spawn and evolve into something more. I would like to have both in my life but I know I can't.
Meredith, can exes really be friends? Which is more important? An old friendship or a new relationship?
– Can't have your cake and eat it too, Boston
A: You have to decide who's more important, CHYCAEIT. I can't do that for you. Only you know who you'd rather keep.
My only piece of advice is to offer your new guy a compromise -- because he's probably open to one. Acknowledge that you're probably a few years away from a real friendship with your ex (because you are) and that you agree that you should distance yourself from him for the time being. (And by "distance" I mean no calls, texts, etc.) But explain that you won't be able to ignore the ex forever. You're the type of person who'll want to check in periodically and maybe send a card. You want to respect your new relationship, but you don't want the ex to turn into some larger-than-life forbidden figure from your past. You just want him to fade naturally.
I'm hoping that your new guy will be open to that compromise -- a natural fading as opposed to a dramatic friend breakup with your ex. Because that's better for all three of you.
I have to say that I empathize with your new guy. He wants to be the priority, and he should be. There's real potential with him, right?
Saying goodbye to your ex for now doesn't mean that he's gone forever. It just means that you're moving on and accepting that he has a new role in your life. He won't disappear.
Readers? Who's more important? Is there a compromise? Will she ever be friends with her ex? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm not ready for her to move in
Thanks for your contest entries. I picked a few winners. It wasn't easy.
Q: Meredith,
I am a divorced father of a young child. I had a particularly rough marriage that had me on the receiving end of quite a bit of verbal abuse and a few incidents of physical abuse. The divorce wasn't much better and I had to fight for fair visitation. All the while, with mounting legal expenses, I lost my home to foreclosure.
During the divorce process and in the months following its completion, I had two relationships. The first one was with someone who had commitment issues. The second relationship was long-distance and had all the early signs of becoming just volatile as my marriage.
Needless to say, neither of those relationships were healthy and I turned to professional therapy to attempt to figure out why I kept finding myself in situations where I allowed other people to walk all over me. Therapy helped me make a lot of positive changes in my life.
Last fall, I had managed to pull myself enough out of debt to make the decision to move back out of my parents' home and get my own place. Shortly after that, I met a great woman. She is supportive of me and understanding of my deficiencies. Where I am forgetful and a daydreamer, she is organized with lists and has her feet firmly planted on the ground. Most importantly, she is amazing with my child. I think she will make a great step-mom someday.
There are a few problems that I am wrestling with, however. I have felt constant pressure from her about when I am going to be comfortable moving in together. I am in my 30s and she is in her late 20s, and I think that maybe she's feeling more urgency to make that leap than I am.
I have tried to explain my side of the situation, which is that I have only just gotten myself out of the financial mess from the divorce, and just moved out on my own, and that I need time (for both myself and my child) to settle into this new situation. More importantly, I feel an overwhelming responsibility to prove to myself that I can handle life on my own before having someone else move in with me.
She is uncomfortable without a timeline, so I recently suggested that at some point, we should maybe think about spending a few weeks with her staying at my place just to see how it goes.
At first she thought it was a great idea, but now she's upset about it because she already spends most of the week at my place and doesn't understand what more could be learned from spending a few weeks here. Perhaps she is right, but the idea of it made me feel a lot more comfortable and prepared to have a discussion about where we're at. After all that I've been through, I need reassurance that I am making the right decision and not rushing into anything.
I am disappointed that she is not understanding to my need to take it slow. Is she right? Am I making her suffer and wait because of my relationship history? Or am I just doing what I need to do to make sure I don't repeat the mistakes of the past?
– Thrice Burned, Once Shy
A: I'm on her side about the trial run thing, TBOS. That just doesn't make any sense to me. An extended sleepover isn't going to make you any more comfortable with the idea of her moving in than you are now.
But I'm on your side about everything else. You haven't even been together for a year and she wants final answers. All you can do is tell her this: "I'm into you, I don't want to lose you, and yes, if we're happy and comfortable after a reasonable amount of time (at least a year?), we can revisit the cohabitation issue." Because that's how you feel, right?
If she can't give you at least a year to be in a relationship with her before moving in, she's just another woman who isn't considering your needs and you should reconsider the whole relationship. It's possible that she has her own past to deal with -- that she's been strung along in previous relationships -- but that doesn't mean you have to live on her schedule.
My advice is to bring her to therapy with you so that you can have this discussion in a safe zone. Don't attempt to keep her at bay with long-term sleepovers and promises you can't keep. Just set your boundaries, be honest, tell her all of the good things you told us, and see if she's capable of empathy. Because that's what you need from her.
Readers? Should this woman be asking to move in after just a few months? Is she just another woman who's telling him what to do? Do you think there's more to this story? Is the trial run/extended sleepover idea a fair one? What’s happening here? Discuss.
– Meredith
I lost him after a week
Here's another contest: I'll be speaking after this Thursday's performance of "The Drowsy Chaperone" at the SpeakEasy. It's a funny show -- a great pre-wedding show -- and after it's over, I'll get to chat with the audience about marriage ultimatums, wedding ridiculousness, and other fun things. If you want tickets, email me at meregoldstein at gmail dot com by 5 p.m. today. Put DROWSY in the subject line. Tell me who you want to bring to the show and why. I'll email winners by 11 a.m. tomorrow. OK?
Excuse the length of today's letter. I edited it a lot, but she had a lot to say.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I'm an avid reader. I frequent the comments under an alias and often submit entries for your various contests (and have won!). I've not yet written in about my own search for love ... until now.
The facts: 27-year-old single female, active lifestyle. I am resilient, extremely caring (admittedly sometimes to a fault), thoughtful, very happy, and energetic. My friends often come to me for advice. Many times a bridesmaid.
Relationship background: 7-year, off-and-on roller-coaster relationship (now very close friends and only friends, finally, thank god), some fun flings, one 5-month relationship -- 9 men in total. Some of my friends describe me as a hopeless romantic with the mind of a teenage boy. I absolutely love the sweet stuff/affection yet I'm slightly driven by that other part of my brain.
I decided at New Year's that I needed to expand my dating pool and not get so attached so quickly -- and NOT think with my "teenage boy" instincts. After reading your advice to so many people about relaxing a bit and not paying attention to the big push around your late 20s and 30s to find THE ONE, I decided I'd be patient and date and see what happens. And so began the numbering system. I decided to keep all the guys I dated numbered in my phone to remind myself this is just #4, there will be a #5 and #6 and so on. I tried to take on a more masculine approach to dating. If I kept them numbered, I'd stay detached and learn from them and just have fun. Little notches rather than huge pieces taken from my heart.
My friends found it hilarious. I went from the overzealous hopeless romantic to, well, the "dude" in the relationships. I called the shots. I was disappointed when things didn't move forward physically rather than emotionally. I sometimes dated four of them at a time (to be clear, I was never physical with more than one at a time and I was always safe) and I stayed levelheaded and really learned a little more about what I was looking for from each one ... until stupid #9. I didn't number him in my phone because he seemed completely my counterpart. Literally zero red flags. He is extremely social, outgoing, active, loyal, caring, genuine, and incredibly sweet, so I didn't run in the other direction. And after a week (yep, one week), I was slipping out of my detached dating scheme and into the "Oh man, I'm a goner" phase. We texted all day, every day (again, for a week). I found it completely impossible to keep my hands off of him. He came back to my house after our dates and while the grilled cheese and playtime was fun and irresistible, I did resist (barely) sleeping with him. Friday, I met up with him and his friends (I brought a friend so I had back up as well) and things seemed to be going great. And then he disappeared. No goodbye, no "gotta jet," no anything. His friends mentioned he does this sometimes. They all stayed and we all continued to hang out but I was completely baffled. Of course, no response to texts and calls. Two days and still nothing. The typical "He wasn't that into you" seems the obvious answer. But I guess my real question is ... how can I prevent this? One week? One week and I was in tears over a guy? I feel completely pathetic and also resentful because he broke me ... again.
I understand the dating rules, that it's all about trial and error and someone is bound to be a little more disappointed than the other when things don’t work out. I know all this -- yet this one seemed to be just as much a kick in the stomach as the end of the 7-yr relationship ...
– Lola Wants More, Boston
A: You've read this column for a long time, right? So you probably know what I'm going to say about dating. Yes, LWM, it can be awful. And yes, it's high risk. But you have to do it. And you can't manipulate it. You can number these guys, assign them nicknames -- whatever you want to do to make them seem less human -- but as soon as you meet one you actually like, your silly rules and games will go out the window.
My advice is to mourn this one, but not for too long. In the end, it was just one week. You listed this guy's qualities -- but there's no way he could have proven himself to be all of those things after just seven days. You were projecting those attributes because you wanted No. 9 to be THE ONE.
As you look for No. 10, don't try to be a "dude." Because "dudes" are just like girls. Really. They can number women (or men) and date 15 of them at a time, but as soon as they meet their own version of No. 9, they go soft. They wait around for a call back. They cry if they lose someone they liked after a week.
Don't gender your dating experiences. Don't listen to one part of your brain and ignore the other. Let yourself cry. Embrace your interest in the emotional and the physical. Try not to make assumptions about a guy's character until he proves that he can be consistent. Remember that these awful experiences make the good stuff that much better.
And now I'm going to say what I always say to 27-year-olds who are sick of dating and scared of getting hurt. Let's say it together, shall we? Relaxxxxx. Keep on truckin'.
Readers? Why was No. 9 so significant? Can she protect herself by numbering her relationships? Can she speed up the mourning process? How can she avoid becoming miserable with the dating process? Is this what the movie "I Am Number 4" was about? Discuss.
– Meredith
Can I call our breakup a break?
Q: Dear Meredith
My fiance and I have been engaged for over 5 long years with no movement on the marriage front. Initially we intended to marry within two years, but he expressed some initial reluctance which both surprised and scared me. Since that time, he really hasn't endorsed the idea, aside from when I mention it. When I do mention it, he says things like, "Let's do it," but now I have questions.
During the course of our relationship I have been responsible for all of the household financial responsibilities (we have been living together since the engagement). I had to sacrifice time with friends and family in order to do so, which has left me pretty isolated as a result. The responsibilities of being the breadwinner (I allowed him to focus on a business idea that has ultimately failed as a result of inaction on his part) as well as the isolation have taxed our relationship.
To further complicate matters, I have recently realized that I am developing significant feelings for a former coworker who has also expressed interest in pursuing some type of relationship. I realize this is a separate matter but it is weighing on my overall thought process.
I recently turned 30 and realized I need time to determine if our relationship is in fact moving in the right direction. I would like to leave our apartment.
I'm scared about potentially sacrificing my current relationship. I need some guidance with how to move forward. I believe I'm entitled to some space while I decide the fate of our relationship, considering the sacrifices I have made, but I don't know if such "breaks" are really just the figment of Hollywood's imagination.
Am I being fair, here? Please help!
– Murky Waters, Brighton
A: Your waters aren't very murky, MW. They look pretty clear to me.
You're sick of supporting your fiance.
You're tired of your relationship.
You have feelings for someone else.
You turned 30 and your priorities changed.
It's fair to leave your relationship as long as you call this what it is, a breakup. You can't move out and make your fiance wait around for you until you're 100 percent sure that you're comfortable as a single person. I know it's scary to jump without a safety net, but you have to be honest with him.
You have to say something like, "I'm leaving. This isn't what I want," instead of, "I'm taking some time to think." Don't pretend that you're simply hitting the pause button.
Sorry. I know it's tough, but read your letter to yourself and the answer will pop out at you like one of those Magic Eye illustrations. Sometimes a relationship is just ... over.
Readers? Is she allowed to call this a break? Is she entitled to a trial breakup because of all that she's done for the relationship? Is this about turning 30? Should they have been engaged to begin with? Is she just confused because there's a new guy? Discuss.
– Meredith
I don't trust him with his female friend
Q: I've been seeing this great guy for about 8 months now. Things are great ... until he starts talking about his past. He is a very good looking man with a great career, personality, family, and friends. I get insecure from time to time.
A while ago he told me about one of his best friends, who happens to be a female. As time went by, I have found out more and more about her. They had a past together (which he claims was one night and nothing more), then he then moved in with her and her friends because they needed a roommate. They still talk and hang out. He has invited me to meet her but I always have had something come up for work or with family. He claims he has stopped hanging out with her now because he spends so much time with me. I have never gone through his phone, but he did have his speed dial up once and there she was, along with his recent calls. We spoke about it plenty of times.
He tells me I have nothing to worry about. I hate to keep bringing it up but it does bother me. My gut is telling me the feelings are still there and he would turn to her if he had a chance again. I don't want to think this way but I have never dealt with a female "best friend." I have close male friends but never thought about keeping them that close to me. I did tell him I have respect for his friends and that she was there before me so I don't want to get in between anything. I am not sure what to say or do anymore; as soon as I drop it, there she is appearing in our lives again.
Please help.
– Needing Help, Boston
A: Platonic female friends are fine, especially the ones who have been around for a long time. In this case, the female friend isn't 100 percent platonic -- she and your boyfriend shared a romantic night -- so I get why you feel weird about her. But that night was a long time ago, right? And they didn't wind up dating each other back then.
Based on what you've told us, she's no more of a threat to your relationship than the zillions of other women who come in contact with your boyfriend on a daily basis. In fact, she's less of a threat than the unknowns. Your boyfriend and his female friend have spent hours and hours together, hooked up, lived together, and now they're just pals. They've had every opportunity to be a couple and it didn't happen.
My advice is to meet her. Soon. You're making her a bigger deal than she is, and meeting her will put her in perspective. I also want you to consider how much of her intrusiveness is in your head. When you say that she's "appearing in our lives again," do you mean that she's trying to break up your relationship? Or do you mean that she's just hanging out with your boyfriend and their mutual friends? If the answer is B, it's fine. He's gone out of his way to include you in plans. Nothing about this situation seems fishy to me.
See what she's all about and consider that she might be the person who helped your boyfriend become the great guy you're afraid to lose. Keep an open mind and don't vilify anyone until you know they deserve it.
Readers? Is this female friend a threat based on the one romantic night? Can you put the letter writer at ease about platonic female friends? Should the LW's boyfriend not have told her about his past with this woman? Discuss. And enjoy the song of the day.
– Meredith
Am I too picky?
Thank you for so many "Mortified" entries. I did pick two winners, but it wasn't easy. All of the email entries were so lovely. If you didn’t hear from me, you didn't win. But -- we'll do more giveaways soon. If you decide to buy tickets on your own, please find me at the event and say hello.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I recently started dating someone, Lisa, who I met online. She has a lot of great qualities and I have enjoyed our time together so far. There are things about her that I find attractive and things about her that give me some reservations, which I feel is normal in the start of any relationship. I'm willing to give it some time to see how things progress.
About three months ago, I dated someone, Jen, briefly (very briefly) who I thought I could really be interested in. It seemed she felt the same, but it turned out that she had just come out of a relationship and wasn't ready to start dating again. We left it that maybe we would touch base with each other in the future. For all I know, she was telling the truth about the timing not being right. Or, she just wasn't interested.
Here's the thing. I can't stop wondering about her, especially now that I am dating someone else.
In the meantime, Lisa seems to be getting serious about us very quickly. I'm guessing that she thinks we are already exclusive.
Does the fact that I'm thinking about someone else so much mean anything about how I feel about Lisa? Should I email Jen or forget about it and try to focus on Lisa? And, even more than that, should my feelings for Lisa be getting progressively stronger or is it normal to go back and forth about someone new?
I'm a fairly independent woman who would rather be single than in a mediocre relationship. My friends like to tell me I over think things and am too picky. I like to think that I am just waiting for the right fit. Probably, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
– Too Picky For Her Own Good, Boston
A: "Does the fact that I'm thinking about someone else so much mean anything about how I feel about Lisa?" Maybe.
"Should I email Jen or forget about it and try to focus on Lisa?" Sure. Email her. My guess is that another rejection from Jen will help you reset your priorities.
"And, even more than that, should my feelings for Lisa be getting progressively stronger or is it normal to go back and forth about someone new?" Probably. If you don't feel any closer to Lisa after a few months -- if she's not growing on you -- it's time to move on. You're supposed like her more as you get to know her better. And you're supposed to feel at least a little bit giddy about her. Besides the Jen thing, are you thinking about Lisa when she's not around?
As for the "too picky" argument, I'm on your side. People often accuse selective daters of being too picky, but if you're not feeling it, you're not feeling it. You're attracted to people based on your wants, needs, and experiences. You can't force it. All you can do is stay true to yourself and treat people with respect as you make decisions about them.
I believe that staying picky keeps you honest. It basically means that you're listening to your gut.
Readers? Do you agree? Should she call Jen? Should she keep dating Lisa? Is she being too picky? Discuss.
– Meredith
My ex won't acknowledge me
I'm giving away two sets of tickets to the Friday night performances of "Mortified". I'll be reading at the event -- from a journal I kept for a few weeks when I was 6. If you want the free tickets, e-mail me at meregoldstein at gmail dot com with "MORTIFIED" in the subject line. Tell me why you want the tickets and who you'll bring to the show. I'll pick two winners and e-mail them by 6 p.m. today.
Q: “Jeff" and I were together for two years. Although we had arguments, we shared a very deep love for one another.
However, toward the end of our relationship, we began arguing more regularly. The stress of work, roommate issues, etc., began taking its toll on us. Jeff ended the relationship despite the fact that I wanted to give it another shot.
Flash forward months later. Jeff is in a new, committed relationship and I'm still on the dating scene. I miss him. I miss him a lot. And although I have done the whole "keep yourself busy" breakup routine, I always seem to revert back to thinking of Jeff.
It doesn't help that I see him quite often. We live near each other and frequent the same bars and restaurants. We agreed at the end of our relationship to be friends, but every time we have seen one another, he has acted like a complete stranger. He has gone well out of his way to avoid me in any situation.
What's strange is I don't know why he is acting this way. I've been respectful of his new relationship. I never call or text him. I have sent the occasional e-mail when I heard through friends he had been promoted, or a note wishing him a happy birthday, but nothing serious. Just a quick, "Hope you're well" and that's all.
The reason I am writing is because in the time we have been apart, he has done nothing of the sort for me. Yes, I realize he has a new girlfriend, but I know for a fact he was friendly with all of his exes and would speak with them once in a while when we were together. It hurts to go from talking every day and seeing each other frequently during the week to never speaking at all.
I feel as though the years we spent together meant nothing to him. It seems like I have turned into an enemy, and I don't understand why. My friends have told me I am better without him and that I should focus on myself. They also have told me that he is insecure and immature. One of my friends suggested that he could he be acting this way because he is not over our relationship. If he was secure in his current relationship, I would think he could at least say hi to me when he sees me. What's his problem?
– Has he moved on for good?, Cambridge
A: He probably has moved on for good, HHMOFG, but that's not really the issue here, right? You want to know why Jeff isn't acknowledging you when he sees you in public and why you're not getting the obligatory birthday e-mail. I can't read his mind so I'm not sure.
It could be that he's not over the relationship and that he wants to make sure he doesn't slide back into it. It could be that he's trying to make life easier for you by not leading you on. Maybe the new girlfriend has asked him to keep you at a distance.
No matter the reason, it's for the best. Because if he did send you a friendly text, e-mail, or birthday card, you'd be hopeful, right? You'd be confused. Because you're not over him. You're not looking for a friendship.
For now, his behavior is a gift. It would be much worse if you were wondering, "What did he mean when he sent that e-mail?" Or, "What did he want when he smiled at me at the bar?" It's better that he disappear for now so that you both can mourn. It's only been a few months. The wounds are fresh, and no matter how he's behaving, this is a difficult time for both of you. He'll come out of the woodwork when he's ready.
As you mourn, ask your friends to try some new venues with you. It's a big(ish) city. Get a change of scenery.
Readers? When will he contact the LW? Is he doing the right thing by ignoring her? Does his silence mean that he still wants to be with the LW? What does it mean that he's already in a relationship? How can the LW deal with his behavior? Discuss.
– Meredith
Should I reunite with my first wife?
Don't forget to spend some time with yesterday's questions -- and Hoopz.
Q: I'm a TWICE divorced father in his late 40s. Meeting new people has never been easy for me and now that I'm older, it feels impossible.
I don't like being alone so much. I feel like I lose touch somehow. I'd love to meet someone with whom I really "connect," whatever that means. However, all the "Date-dot-com" websites seem so one-dimensional. I can't discern any spark or attraction from a coyly smiling face, quarter turned, and a caption that reads "Searching for my soul mate.”
Enter the first ex-wife; when it was good, it was GREAT, but when it was bad …
She reasons that it was the lack of maturity that brought about our demise more than 15 years back, and that, in retrospect, "we were made for each other." I see that she doesn't want to be alone; she's currently seeking her second divorce. Neither do I, but I'm finding it very difficult to reconcile what went wrong in the past with the here and now.
Is a rekindling reasonable or simply a reach for a past that no longer exists? Is there a someone for whom we were "made"?
– AloneinBoston
A: I don't think we're made for anyone in particular, AIB. But ... I do think that some of our exes wouldn't be exes if we had met them at a later age, after we had matured and learned about ourselves. I do think that now-single, self-aware exes have a lot to offer us if we meet up with them again later in life.
Of course, I can't tell if you're really interested in your ex or if she's just a possible diversion from the loneliness. Are you still attracted to her? Do you like being around her? Does she make sense for you in the present? My guess is that you don't know. For that reason, my advice is to go out to dinner with her. As friends. Friends with potential. See how it feels. Remember that those past mistakes are now almost two decades old. Assuming that the relationship wasn't abusive, there's no harm in having dinner.
Just make sure to be clear about your intentions. Let her know that for now, it's just dinner. You want to reconnect without great expectations. Call her out on the fact that she's just as confused as you are.
If it becomes clear that she's just a friend, you might want to consider some of those date-dot-com websites. I know that the one-dimensional profiles are weird, but in person some of those people might make you smile. Those online women are like your ex-wife -- big question marks that need to be taken to dinner.
Readers? Is the ex-wife worth pursuing or is she just a quick fix for the loneliness? Should he try to date her again? Are they made for each other? Any words for the LW about online dating? Discuss.
– Meredith
Am I intimidating?
Sorry I've been posting at 9. I'll be earlier next week.
Q: Hi Meredith!
I'm an independent, caring, honest, athletic, average-looking female in my 30s, I'm happy with who I am and know I have a lot to offer, but and I'm having trouble meeting the right guys (or any guys at all for that matter!).
I actually get along better with men than I do with women, and I think I have a lot of similar interests with most men. I love sports (play softball, run regularly, and love to try new activities), I work out regularly. I enjoy hanging out at sports bars with apps and wings, traveling, etc. Other than that, my interests aren't scary. I enjoy being out of the house, raising money and organizing events for charity, zoos/animals, scrapbooking, reading and writing, hanging out with my family, etc.
Some of my personality traits are strong. I'm very independent. I've gotten used to being on my own and having to do things for myself to the point that it often makes me uncomfortable when people want to do things for me or give me gifts. Yet, I'm very giving and generous. I always donate and support friends' charity endeavors, and I always buy little gifts or make little treats for those I care about. I wear my emotions on my face. If I'm angry, it's obvious. I've had troubles in the past discussing my emotions with others, but that is no longer a problem as long as I am given some time to figure out how I feel before being forced to discuss it. I like to have a packed schedule. Having free time makes me anxious. I've had boyfriends in the past who have found these traits unbearable and left.
I could understand if these personality traits scared some people away, but I haven't even had a chance to display these personality traits because I can't seem to find a date!
My personal trainer, who acts as my pseudo-therapist, says that men are intimidated by me. His opinion is that men look at me, see how in shape and strong I am, and run away in fear. I have a hard time understanding this because I see myself as exactly the opposite. I don't see myself as a big, mean bully, but rather a petite, happy, calm, fun woman. I can do more pushups than most men, but I don't brag, and it's not like I look like Arnold Schwarzenegger. I'm an average sized woman who is fit.
How do I stop intimidating men when I don't even know why they are intimidated?
– Unintentionally Intimidating, Saugus
A: We've had a lot of "I'm so awesome -- why can't I find a mate?" letters, and I usually tell the writers to be patient. In your case, UI, I want to bring up the importance of emotional presence. Sometimes we're so busy that when we're doing one thing, we're thinking about the next thing. We're checking our phone, considering our plans for later, or contemplating how we'll document everything we've already done on Facebook (or in a scrapbook).
That means that we're not fully engaged in the present. And that's intimidating, for sure, but more importantly, it's off-putting. It's difficult to click with someone -- or meet someone -- if you're not really in the moment. And that goes for meeting female friends, too. Engaging with someone doesn't just mean donating to a charity or baking cookies. It means listening. Laughing. Really connecting. Not thinking about anything besides the person in front of you.
So that's my advice. To slow down. To listen. To court some women for friendship. To be in the moment. To skip some of those pushups and sit around with a pal on a couch. Your homework: Make plans with someone and spent an entire day with them. See if you can block everything else out and connect.
I have to quote Rob Lowe from a recent episode of "Parks & Recreation": "What's the point of doing 10,000 pushups if you're going to do them alone. I'd much rather do 5,000 pushups with a wonderful woman -- sitting on my back to increase my resistance."
Readers? Am I right about her being distracted as opposed to intimidating? Is this different than the other "I'm great. Why can't I find a mate?" letters? Does she just need to find someone as scheduled as her? Discuss.
– Meredith
He's pushing me away
Q: Somehow, after much resistance, I tried online dating. The men on the site seem to have a laundry list of wants and it scared me. I found one guy who sounded pretty relaxed and somehow I found the courage to go on a date with him. He was going to be my first date and my last, just to say I tried online dating. That was five months ago.
For five months this guy adored me. We talked all day on text and spoke every night. He couldn't believe he found me, loved me more than any man has, and we had so much fun together.
Problem? He wasn't divorced yet. Specifics were being worked out. They no longer lived together but kids were involved.
We had some hiccups and worked through it. I thought we were in a good place, but then I saw some postings on Facebook. Some girls were pretty flirty and hitting on him. I definitely had to bring it up. Until that point we didn't discuss how serious we were, but he had told me I'm the girl for him, he couldn't believe how right it felt, he thought about me all day, etc. If he wasn't with me he was with his kids. I thought we were just with each other. I didn't rush any girlfriend/boyfriend discussion because I knew he was just out of a long relationship and I didn't need a title. I had met his kids, his family, and his friends. He had met my family and friends and he initiated most of it.
After seeing the FB posts I finally asked him if he dated other people. He answered back and was mean. Barked back that he had. It felt like I was punched. He exploded and left saying he wants to be with me every minute, thinks about me all the time, but has no idea what he is doing. He was in a relationship for so long he had no clue what he wanted.
I have never been involved with or near a divorce. I do not understand the feelings involved there. He was in an unhappy relationship for many years and is free of her, can't believe he found me, but walked away from me?
Do I walk away? He's pushing me away and I'm so scared he forgets what we had because he has so much going on? Should I be angry? Where do I go from here? How do I go on from here being intertwined for 5 months? HELP....
– Heartbroken, MA
A: Should you be angry? Heck yeah. He might not know what he wants, but he knows exactly what he's been doing. He's been dating you, telling you lots of nice things, and seeing other people when he feels like it. Get angry.
Divorce is complicated, but it doesn't excuse his behavior. And it doesn't sound like he's begging you to forgive him for being unclear about his level of commitment. Instead, he's pushing you away. It's not your job to convince him to stay.
It sounds like he jumped into all of this too quickly. But that's not something you can fix for him. You can only decide what's best for you. Is he making you feel good? Keeping his promises? Remaining trustworthy? Allowing the relationship to grow? Making you feel safe? These are the things you ask at five months, and he's failing miserably.
My advice is to make yourself your first priority. Consider how you're being treated and then make decisions accordingly.
Also, you wound up liking your first internet guy enough to date him for five months. Shouldn’t that make you hopeful about what else is out there?
Readers? Should she give this guy another chance? Does he want one? Is his pending divorce an excuse for Facebook flirtations? Is it technically cheating if they never had a talk about their relationship status? Discuss.
– Meredith
She doesn't want a fake wedding
Q: Hi Meredith,
I met my fiancée a few years ago through a mutual friend. She is English. She was traveling through the States and we hit it off. We had a bunch of trips back and forth, decided we wanted to give it a go, and I moved to England. Our deal was, I would be there a few years and then we would spend a few years in the States and decide from there where we want to raise a family, etc.
In order for her to come to the States and be able to work, we need to be married. We are planning on doing that, then moving to the states. However, in order to apply for the visa we need to be married. Basically, it’s a timing issue. If we wait to apply until we get married then we won't be able to move back to the States for 8-10 months (processing times). We talked about (and I thought we agreed on) getting married (the paper work) earlier, applying for the visa, then having the wedding and being able to move to the States together in 2012. However, she's been making all these comments -- "I'm talking the romance out of our wedding" and we are now having a "fake" wedding and things of this nature. She's says she's doing it for me, that she'll have to live with it. But with all these comments it's making me feel really bad and I feel that she will resent me for this.
I'm not sure what to do. It's causing a lot of stress in our relationship, but our options are - get married early (just us and a witness) then file the paper work, have our "fake" wedding with friends and family, then move to the States. OR we just have the wedding and I move to the states and she can't come over till the paper work comes through. So, 8-10 months after the wedding. (I am required to move back, I don't have an option). I feel this puts more strain on us than just signing the paper work. I don't see signing the papers early a big deal. But she does. I guess I'm just not sure what to do!
– What to Do, Boston and London
A: You need to ask her what she wants to do, WTD. Yes, you already had this discussion, but she wasn't being honest with you (or herself) about her needs back then. She changed her mind. The old plan isn't sitting right with her. Undo it.
My guess is that she hasn't even admitted to herself that she has specific ideas about how weddings should be treated. If you start over, maybe she'll be able to process those ideas with you. Maybe she needs to wait and do a long-distance relationship until she can get married "right." Sounds crazy, but she's probably been dreaming about this day for a long time. Maybe she'd rather visit you a few times over eight months so that she can have the perfect "we-signed-the-papers-on-the-right-day" wedding experience.
My guess is that when you have this conversation again, she'll come around to the original plan. But hopefully it will feel better this time. I think she just agreed too quickly without considering her longtime dreams about the first day of her marriage.
Start over and keep an empathetic tone. Make sure she knows that the decision is a shared one. You can't do any of this without her.
Readers? Should she feel weird about signing paperwork and then having a wedding? Is she being immature? Anyone have citizenship/love stories? How can they deal with their logistics without losing the romance? Is she stressed about getting married, in general? Discuss.
– Meredith
I think that he read my diary
Q: Before we get into the thick of the issue, please know that this is not a deal-breaker. I'm just confused about what move to make next (if any).
I have been dating my boyfriend for a year -- a very wonderful year that will be the first of many. We live about an hour away from each other and have opposite work schedules, so we end up being weekend lovers. I'll relocate to be closer to him soon.
Surprisingly, my question doesn't involve our arrangement, but an incident that occurred yesterday. I left for work bright and early in the morning, sad to leave him in my bed, and disappointed that Monday morning showed up so quickly. He stayed over and was waiting for traffic to lighten up before making the trek home. I returned from work later that day to find my journal/diary next to my bed. The journal started off as a note holder in my college days but has transformed into a play-by-play of my personal highs and lows over many years. The diary was in the right place -- but it wasn't how I left it. I normally leave it standing straight up, but when I came home it was standing on its side. Now, what makes this a little more interesting is that he showed great interest in this binder when he first noticed it and has brought it up a few times since then (inquiring if I wrote anything new about him.) I assured him that there was nothing bad in there about him and even showed him a couple of entries to prove it.
There really aren't any secrets in there and nothing that I haven’t already discussed with him or would eventually. I am more embarrassed by some of the things in there because they were written mid-thought-process, in the midst of really tough times. I have come a long way and grown a lot over the years. Essentially, I'm not comfortable with him knowing my inner thoughts at my darkest moments. Obviously, the trust of being able to leave this journal conveniently near my bed is not going to continue, and trust that he will respect my wishes is diminished.
So, do I bring it up? I don't have hard evidence that he did look at it so what held me back from bringing it up yesterday was that I may loose some of his trust if I wrongly accuse him. Is there an approach (if any) you and the LL readers recommend?
– Shock & Awe, Boston
A: I'm not sure why you didn't move your journal as soon as you realized he was interested in it, S&A. It's like you left a massive bowl of chocolate next to your bed and said to your chocoholic significant other, "Don't touch, OK?" You're supposed to hide diaries. Because they're diaries. And no, I don't think that you should bring this up to him.
Because we don't know if he read it. He might have knocked it over and put it back wrong. He might have flipped it open, experienced immediate guilt and regret, and then set it back down. You might have moved it and simply forgotten. He might have opened it, read all the wonderful things you wrote about him, and then used that information to fuel his wonderful feelings about you.
I don't think he's a snooper, or at least not any more of a snooper than any normal human. Just move the thing and delete it from your brain.
Readers? Should she bring this up with him? Is it her fault for leaving it by the bed or should he have been able to control himself? Ever read a significant other's journal? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm missing the 'meet cute'
Q: Dear Meredith,
I'm a 30ish graduate student living in New York, and dating is strange to me. I am newly single (after a multi-year, long-distance relationship that pretty much died in a fire) and before that relationship, I'd never really dated. I'm the kind of girl who meets someone, falls in love instantly, and decides that we are going to be in a relationship. Said relationships are usually long and intense. But I'm normal, pretty, engaging, funny, and smart, and I have a wide range of interests that I love to share with people.
I decided that instead of sitting around and feeling sorry for myself, I would join an online dating website and try to put myself out there. Things have been ... unsuccessful so far. I've been on a few dates, but no one really made me feel the sense of energy and excitement I'm looking for. (If I'm being really honest, I've never felt anything close to the fireworks I felt when I met my most recent ex-boyfriend. He may be a cheater, but our "meet cute" was awesome.)
My question is actually quite specific: What should I write to guys whose profiles I find interesting? I've messaged a couple of people before, and it just seems like on these online dating sites, it's not the culture for women to contact men. Or I could be completely doing it wrong, because no one has responded to me. Every guy who I've gone out with has been someone who messaged me first, and I just don't seem to be attracting the kinds of people I'm interested in. Am I being too smart in my messages? Too smart in my profile? Should I comment on something in their profile? Tell them I think their profile picture is cute? Is it really true that I have to dumb it down? Frankly, if that's the case, I'd rather go it alone.
– Tongue-Tied for Once, NY
A: 1. Don't dumb it down, TTFO. The right guy will respond to your wit. Staying smart will help you filter out the bad ones.
2. Feel free to contact guys first -- but also feel free to be lazy. Most sites have a "wink" or "poke" function, right? If you keep it to winking, you don't have to come up with something awesome to say if you don't feel like it. (As for a specific script if you do send a note, well, I can't give you one. It all depends on the guy's profile. And your mood.)
3. Know that the odds are against you with these dates. You're supposed to feel blah about most of your potential suitors, just like you would at any bar. That's why you have to go for quantity and keep the dates short.
4. Know that meet cutes aren't so important in relationships. They make for adorable stories, but they don't always make for great relationships. If you like any of these online guys even a little bit on the first date, see them again. Because with online dating, you sometimes skip the meet cute. It's more like a delayed meet cute -- a "we're-on-our-fifth-date-and-suddenly-I-realize-that-you're-amazing cute."
5. Don't let online dating become your only method of looking for a partner. Keep trying in the real world. Otherwise you'll go nuts.
Readers? Can you tell her what to write to these guys? Is she allowed to contact them first? Should she be having meet cute feelings on these dates? Discuss.
– Meredith
Something's missing in our relationship
Q: Hi Meredith,
I've been in a serious relationship with "Rob" for just over a year and a half. He's a GREAT guy -- funny, attractive, gets along with my friends, cooks dinner, holds the door -- all the makings of a great boyfriend. Most of the time I feel great with him, but I often feel that there is something missing. I can't pinpoint exactly what it is, but something just feels off. When I'm out with friends, I only rarely feel that proud "that's my boyfriend!" feeling. When I hear romantic songs about that spark you feel with one person, I don't always feel that Rob and I have that feeling. Some factors that I think might contribute to the problem:
1) Rob and I started out long distance, got serious VERY quickly, and did so after both of us had gotten out of pretty bad relationships. We were long distance for about five months before Rob moved to Boston. I don't feel we ever really got a chance to "date" and enjoy the fun part of the beginning of a relationship.
2) Rob slept with someone else right before the move. He called me, confessed, and did EVERYTHING right to make us work, and I've forgiven him. The reason I think this factors in is that it deeply affected the beginning of our relationship. Rob devoted all of his time and energy to making our relationship work and sorta pushed his sense of self aside.
3) His parents came to visit over the summer and it went HORRIBLY. They have polar opposite views to mine and his father is actively mean. I didn't have the most stable childhood so having a close-knit family in my future has always been really important to me, so it's been a struggle to wait and see if this is a "deal-breaker" for me.
Rob and I have discussed this -- that maybe it's not working out -- but we keep having good weeks and bad weeks. Sometimes I think we just need to change some behaviors and try new things, and other times I think "it’s just not right." What kills me is that he is such a wonderful person and a great boyfriend. I don't want to be the idiot who gave up the great guy because some X factor wasn't there -- but I also don't want to commit to something at 24 if I feel something is missing.
Some friends have said that I will know when it's over -- that until I'm sure, I should give it more time. It's been about 3 weeks since our first conversation about "something being missing" and we've continued to have really up and down times. We've talked several more times, but the conversation always ends with us not being ready to end it yet. Is it weird that we keep talking about it? Is this a sign it’s not working, or is it just good communication?
– Something's Missing (Maybe), Cambridge
A: I told yesterday's letter writer that people should ride out relationships until they're almost 100 percent sure that they're ready to walk away. I also said that there are exceptions to that rule. You're one of them, SMM. Your relationship with Rob has involved groveling, uncomfortable moves, awful family outings, and plaguing doubts. Yes, Rob is a good boyfriend and there have been good weeks to balance the bad ones, but there's more to partnership than being nice and holding doors.
You have to ask yourself the following questions: Does the idea of Rob dating someone else bother you? If you knew there were other guys out there for you, would you feel better about breaking it off with Rob? Why did you get so serious with Rob in the beginning? Was it really just about your ex?
You told us that you don't want to give up on a nice boyfriend, but you're doing way too much work to keep this together. I understand what your friends are saying, but if they read this letter they'd probably agree that it's time for a change. At the very least, they'd probably want you to experience life without Rob to see how it feels. They'd agree that at the moment, you have no perspective.
Readers? Is she the exception or the rule? Should she feel more jazzed about this relationship than she does? Was it doomed from the start? What about the good weeks? Help.
– Meredith
Did I break up with him too soon?
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Q: Hi Meredith,
You column is not just a daily diversion, it's also a great resource. As I'm facing relationship uncertainty, I find myself wishing you were a friend, so I'm writing for your friendly advice.
A month ago I broke things off with my boyfriend of six months. We are both in our mid-30s, never-married, no kids. He is extremely easy to get along with, we never had any arguments, and got along wonderfully. He's a great guy: considerate, extremely competent, good-natured, even-tempered, fun, funny, successful, responsible, and helpful. We are both independent professional types but whenever we had free time we would generally spend it together. He would often arrange weekend trips away for us, which I loved. The issue was that he wasn't expressive or very affectionate. Also, a month ago, while we were both away on business trips, I didn't hear from him for a week. He was unreachable. This wasn't the first time this happened. A month previous to this incident, he disappeared for two days when we were supposed to get together. I had a serious talk with him at that time. He said he was very sorry, he screwed up -- but as I mentioned above, it happened again. During that week, I won an award for a project that meant a lot to me and it was dampened by the fact that my boyfriend had disappeared again and I couldn't share this great news with him.
We talked when we both got home. He felt bad, had excuses, and apologized. I had made up my mind that it was over and I broke up with him. I told him that the combination of the disappearing and lack of affection was too hard on me. I told Joe that I can tell when a guy is crazy about me and I could tell he wasn't, that he didn't seem that curious about me (wouldn't he want to know whether or not I won the award?). I told him he didn't seem all that willing to be a part of my life or make me a part of his (I had never met his friends, family and vice versa). He replied "I know I'm not affectionate, I guess I show it in other ways." When I asked him if he was "crazy about me" Joe replied, "I don't' know what that means. I think that comes with time. I know I like spending time with you." That was about as expressive as he got.
Now, a month later, I'm still upset. I miss him terribly. I liked my life better with him in it. I loved him and still do. I'm wondering if in a rash moment I ended things too soon. I am still surprised and hurt that he walked away without talking me out of the break up, or making a grand gesture. Rational me knows grand gestures are not how an even-keeled man operates and I knew what I was doing. Now I don't know if I did the right thing. So much about him is very much what I want in a partner. Should I have given this another chance? Should I have tried to work with him on being more expressive and affectionate or do people not really change? Should I just move forward or should I go back and try to work things out with him? Thank you for your advice.
(By the way, a week after our break up he was already active on a dating website.)
– Severed Ties Too Soon, Houston
A: My philosophy has always been that people should stay in relationships until they're almost positive that they want out, STTS. There are exceptions to my rule, of course. Abusive relationships don't count. And there are statutes of limitations for time. It shouldn't take you years to decide whether you're smitten with your significant other.
In your case, you're not sure what you want and you were only with him for a few months. He disappeared on a business trip and didn't bring you to meet mom and dad, but he surprised you with weekend trips and is apparently "considerate, extremely competent, good-natured, even-tempered, fun, funny, successful, responsible, and helpful." You broke up with him and regretted your decision almost immediately. You're kind of a mess.
My advice is to call him -- because you want to. Tell him that you're confused and that you miss him. Tell him that you have no idea what you're doing. He'll either tell you that he's not interested in reuniting (and that means he isn't crazy about you, so no big loss), or he'll be open to a discussion.
If you do get back together, you'll either learn to satisfy each other over time or you'll break up again. It's important to play these things out until questions are answered so that you don't waste time with the what-ifs.
(And as for him joining the online dating site, who cares? He might have done that to distract himself from the pain. Some people believe that the best way to move on from a romantic loss is to start dating as soon as possible.)
Readers? Am I right or should she listen to the part of her gut that told her to break it off? Is the disappearing for a week thing a problem? Is she expecting too much? Should she call? Why didn't he introduce her to his friends? What do we think about him surfacing on a website? Discuss.
– Meredith
I hooked up with my best friend's boyfriend
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Q: Dear Meredith,
A few months ago I drunkenly hooked up with my best friend's boyfriend. Let me give you a little bit of the back story: A group of us had gone away for the weekend and at the last minute my best friend, "Mia," was unable to go. At the end of a very drunken night, my best friend's boyfriend, who I will call "Darrell," and I ended up in bed together. The next day I felt horrible and for the subsequent weeks I debated telling my friend time and time again, but ultimately decided against it and have attempted to move on. I have been away for the past few months since the "incident," and just returned home to where Darrell also resides. Mia has also been away and will not be returning for several more weeks.
My dilemma is this: I have been tortured by guilt these past few months but never did I consider the added complication of having feelings for Darrell. Ever since I have been back I find myself (naturally) thinking about what happened and considering what I would feel it if were to happen again. Darrell and I have hung out a couple of times since I have been back, and I really enjoyed our time together, coming to realize all that we have in common. It was a great hookup, from what I can recall, and now with these developing feelings I feel like I am headed toward a cliff. I do not want to hurt Mia but I also have put my own feelings aside time and time again in order to put my friends' feelings first. I know that Darrell loves Mia but I think we have something, too. He isn't exactly trying to keep his distance.
I've tried to avoid him but I can't seem to keep my distance either and I know given the right situation something will happen again. But I have a history of wanting what I can't have so I guess my question is this: Am I wrong to test the waters and see what this could be? I don't want them to break up and then realize I just wanted him because he was "untouchable." I also don't want to jeopardize my friendship with Mia for Darrell -- she is so important to me and I can hardly believe I am even considering this. I know this whole situation will probably end badly but I am sick of never putting my own feelings first. Is there any hope for a happy ending here?
– Careless and Confused, Cranston
A: No happy endings, CAC. Sorry. You can maintain the status quo and stay guilty and smitten with your best friend's boyfriend, or you can tell Mia what happened and maybe lose her as a best friend. If you do that, you'll probably lose Darrell, too. And if you don't, and he drops her for you, you probably won't be able to enjoy him.
What can you live with? Telling? Not telling? Losing Mia? Living the rest of your life without ever kissing Darrell again?
Let me answer those questions for you. You said in your letter that you know that you love Mia and that you don't want to lose her. As for Darrell, you're not sure. You said that you don't even know whether your desire for him is about him or about wanting what you can't have.
So trust your own words. You can either tell Mia what you did and grovel, or don't tell her and live with it (for the record, I'd tell). Either way, stay away from Darrell. He's not yours. I don't care if there's an attraction. I don't care if you always put your friends' feelings first. You're not entitled to sleep with your best friend's boyfriend. No one is.
There are a zillion dudes out there. Take some space, deal with your conscience, and force yourself to let go of what's not yours.
Readers? Should she tell Mia? And should she pursue Darrell? Is she entitled to anything here? Help.
– Meredith
Obsessing about my ex
Winners for the "Bridesmaids" contest have been chosen. I'll post some entries Friday. Thanks so much for the submissions. They were great reads.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I recently came out of a serious two-year relationship. While she was an excellent, beautiful, smart woman, our relationship just waxed and waned too much and occasionally I felt completely disconnected. As it was my first very serious relationship, I was often questioning whether she was "the one" and I found myself wishing to meet other people. After months of struggle, I finally ended things for good.
Fast forward a month or so and I am now starting to see another beautiful woman. I really wasn't planning on jumping back into things so quickly, but when I met her I knew I had to see more of her. I cannot express how much fun I have with her, and she really is a catch.
However, I find myself thinking about my ex non-stop, and constantly comparing the "new one" to her in my mind. I so enjoy this new woman but because of my constant thoughts I am not sure whether I have made a mistake. I know it is natural to think about your ex, but at what point should I be finding myself feeling 100 percent clear about this situation? Are these feelings unfair to the new woman?
– Confused Bloke, Boston
A: CB, you're thinking about the ex nonstop? Really? Like, all the time?
If that's true, you're probably just moving on too quickly. You said it yourself -- you started dating this woman before you were ready. You're comparing your experiences with her to your two-year relationship. Apples to oranges, my friend.
My advice is to put on the brakes. See this new woman but make it clear that you're just dating around right now, not dating seriously. Give yourself some Saturday nights alone. Because much of what you're feeling is loss and guilt. You let go of your partner of two years. You loved her. You thought she was wonderful. Of course you're going to long for her. It's difficult to mourn a loss while being someone's fun, new boyfriend at the same time. Give your brain a break. You can only multitask so much.
And for the record, you'll never be 100 percent clear about any of it. Sorry.
Readers? Is he allowed to contact the ex? Is he still in love with the ex? Is he being fair to this new woman? Should he be dating at all? Will he ever be 100 percent over it? Discuss.
– Meredith
Is he out of love or just busy?
Please enjoy this last-minute contest.
Q: Hi Meredith,
Long time, first time. Back story is that I started dating my best friend of about five years this past September. He is the most kindhearted, gentle, and fun person I know. He has seen me go through my share of bad relationships and heartache. He's two years older than me and this is his first real relationship and longest relationship. We both started to like each other early last year but didn't act on it until the summer. We were scared to cross the line and he was studying for Part 2 of the CFA (crazy finance test!) all last winter/spring so I didn't want to distract him.
He was always the one pushing for us to start dating once it was on the table, and after spending time with him, I grew to love him. It's by far the best relationship I've been in and he treats me so well I could see myself spending the rest of my life with him (I'm 23. I've been around the block. I've known him for 5 years).
He is in the thick of studying for part 3 of the CFA right now and has been since January. The test is in early June. I have been incredibly understanding about his priority (passing this test!). When his job and the studying became extra stressful last month, he threw a curve ball at me and said that he felt like something was missing in our relationship but that he couldn't decipher if it was his external stresses or just us. We decided to work on it, but more recently the conversation came back up and he said he still feels something is missing. I'm deeply hurt by this and I really just hope it's the stress of the CFA that is sucking the life out of him, but I also don't think it's fair for me to sit around and wait until after the CFA for my "trial period" to be up.
We called it off last night and I'm just looking for some help on how I should be feeling about this situation and what to do after the CFA is over in June. Reevaluate? Move on? Is he just a commitment-phobe?
– CFA is ruining my life, Boston
A: There isn't anything you can do besides treat this like a breakup, CFAIRML. From what you've told us, he isn't begging you to wait it out until June to see what's what. He told you twice that something was missing from the relationship. After discussing it more, you called it off. That's your reality.
If he comes running back to you in June you can reevaluate if you want, but there's no need to plan for that now. There's no guarantee that he'll change his mind in a month. And it's only May 9th.
My guess is that this isn't about the CFA stuff. I would bet that his problem is that he hasn't been around the block like you have so he doesn't know exactly what he wants from this relationship after a year of dating. That's enough to kill something good.
As for how to deal, I want you to give yourself space and try not to fantasize about June. I know it's tempting to play out the post-CFA possibilities, but I fear that your dreams about his potential revelations will just leave you disappointed. Treat this like a real ending with anger, pep talks, misery, shopping, and whatever else you do to get over a loss. Because for now, that's what it is -- an ending, not a pause. Make May more important than June. Give yourself what you need right now.
Readers? Is this really about the CFA thing? Anyone taken that test? Should she wait until June to see how he really feels? Is it possible that he's just overwhelmed? Or should he be doing more to keep her around? Discuss.
– Meredith
Worried about his secret fantasy life
This letter had to be edited quite a bit for obvious reasons. Use your best judgment with comments so that you're not censored all day.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I'm a 31-year-old female. I've been in a relationship with a great guy for six months now. We met online. He's 32 and has a graduate degree and a great job. I've met his family and passed their test, and he's met mine and passed theirs. We live apart but spend three to four nights a week together at each other's apartments. So far, so good.
The other night was an unsettling experience to say the least. I was at his place for the night. I woke up at about 3 a.m. and he was not in bed. I could see the light on in his office so I got up and walked down the hall. As I approached the office, I could see him seated at his desk, enjoying an adult video on his computer. I'm not a prude – I know that this happens -- but what was unsettling was that he was viewing [extremely aggressive] material that was degrading to women, both verbally and physically. And what was worse, he was muttering to himself as if he were part of the scene.
Needless to say, I was appalled. He absolutely is not like that. He treats his mother and sisters with great respect. Our lovemaking is sweet and tender, almost too gentle. He's about the last guy on earth I would have expected this from. Now I'm concerned that he harbors some deep hatred of women that might work its way to the surface someday.
My question is, is it normal for a guy to view pornography that is way outside his everyday persona? Do pornography habits ever translate into action in real life?
– Not Sure What's Behind the Green Door, Weston
A: In college, for my women's studies minor, I did a thesis about feminism and pornography. It by no means made me an expert (in fact, I really phoned it in with that paper), but I was surprised to discover during my research that many feminists were open to pornography that on the surface appeared to be offensive to women. These feminists wrote that fantasy lives were separate from real-life behavior and that role playing was just fine. And for the most part, I now agree with the spirit of that philosophy. After all, we all know that I fantasize about a 17-year-old vampire high school student who lives in suburban Washington. If he actually existed, I can't say that I'd date him, let alone touch him. I mean, he's 17.
I believe that the answer to what's going on behind your boyfriend's green door can be answered with a simple conversation, NSWBTGD. Tell him what you saw. Ask him what he likes. Then ask him why. He'll either talk about it and explain himself in a normal way -- probably with some silliness and shame -- or he'll tell you something that will make you feel bad in your gut. Guts are important when it comes to this stuff.
And don't get me wrong, if the pornography you saw can be described as true violence against women, the answer is probably clear. But if it's just about role playing -- and you're OK with that as long as he's not some sort of secret misogynist -- then just talk to him. You'll get a vibe.
Because there is no normal. Some people are anti-pornography. Some couples watch pornography together. Some people's fantasy lives have nothing to do with what they actually enjoy when they're with another person. Only you can decide what you can live with. See how he reacts when you ask him about it.
Readers? Is this normal? Should she talk to him about it or just bail? Is it weird that he was doing this while she was there? What should she say to him if she has the talk? Does the "too gentle" thing bother you? Keep your comments PG.
– Meredith
I like my late friend's husband
Q: I'm a long-time lurker, first-time writer. I'm in my late 30s, never married, never been in a long-term relationship. While I've long hoped to find a spouse and raise a family, I have also been determined not to wait for a relationship to start "living" my life. I have a great job, which I enjoy, and which provides a reasonable standard of living for me. I have had many opportunities to travel, both for work and for pleasure. I come from a strong family and have fabulous nieces and nephews with whom I love spending time. I've always been pretty independent and self-sufficient but would love to find someone to share my life.
I have a dear friend, "Andy," whom I've known for about 15 years. He's 20+ years older than I am -- a widower with teenage children. I was quite close to his wife before she passed away a couple of years ago. I've gotten to know him well over the years and we've become much closer since his wife passed away. As strange as it may seem given our age differences, I find myself more and more attracted to him. Between work and being a single parent, he's very busy, and we don't see each other often. When we do, it's just a straightforward social setting, often with the kids. We talk on the phone frequently, sometimes multiple times a day. He hasn't shown any interest in pursuing another relationship since his beloved wife passed away. I'm loath to do anything that might jeopardize our sweet friendship, but I would love to explore the possibility of a relationship with him. I've been hoping that with time he would come to see the potential I see in our friendship - but I don't think he's looking for another relationship (yet?). I'm a fairly patient woman, and can continue to wait, if necessary, but I'm trying to find a sensitive way to explore the possibility of a relationship. Can you offer any suggestions on how to approach the situation? Should I simply let it play its course?
– Puzzled and Hopeful, Massachusetts
A: PAH, patience isn't always a virtue. You shouldn't be sitting around and waiting for him for years -- unless you're sure that there's something to wait for. My advice is to ask him what he thinks of your relationship and what it all means. Try the honest truth: "Sometimes I wonder if this is going somewhere beyond friendship. Do you? Because I'm confused, puzzled, and hopeful."
But please, before you do that, spend some time thinking about what you really want. Are you interested in him because you're really falling for him or because he's safe? Are you up to raising kids -- and are you comfortable dating someone significantly older? Has your friendship with this man -- specifically the phone calls -- given you an excuse not to seek out men your own age? Is this a real intimacy or is this about staying close to your friend who passed away?
I'm not trying to lead you anywhere with those questions. I'm just curious. And I don't want you starting something up with this man if you're not up for those big things.
Think about what you want. And if it's really him, have a discussion. Because while you're waiting patiently for him to make a move, he might be waiting for you. Or maybe he thinks of you as a daughter or a niece. If he's not going to date you, you need to start setting boundaries in your head. Pronto.
Readers? Should she bring this up to him? Does this relationship have potential? He calls her a lot -- but doesn't see her much. What gives? Discuss.
– Meredith
How do I convince him I'm the one?
Q: Dear Meredith,
I'm in love. Hopelessly in love. Certain people have even thrown out the term "obsessed." I'm reasonably certain the man (we'll call him Adam) loves me, too. I just don't think he knows how to express it. Or maybe he's afraid of being vulnerable? I don't know. Here's the back story:
We met almost a year and a half ago. It was instant chemistry. Love at first sight for me. We consummated our attraction that very night (yummy grilled cheeses!). I know what you're thinking, but we couldn't help ourselves! Our love and affection and friendship grew.
But he would never call me his girlfriend. In fact, he flat out told me that he didn't want to be in a relationship with me. And I know he was also seeing a few other girls. He'd see me every week, hang out, laugh, and confide in me -- isn't that a relationship, Meredith? He said it wasn't. But why else would he keep coming back to me? I say it's love. I've been in love before. I was even engaged once (no, that didn't end well, but I've certainly learned how to cope with disappointment). Adam and I are both in our early 30s. We should be able to settle down together.
Sadly, he entered into a relationship last summer, and it broke my heart. I tried to be OK with it, but I just couldn't take it. I eventually found my own distraction, a nice single dad I met online, but he was just … blah. He was no Adam. And I eventually ended that relationship.
But then you know what? Adam broke up with his girlfriend, too. I couldn't believe the timing! We soon found each other, and it was like we'd never left. I thought for sure it was meant to be this time.
And then I learned he started dating a new girl. And he really liked her. And I was cast back aside. Just like that.
Present day: I don't know what to do. We end up running into each other a lot, given that we share the same social circle. This also means that I have to see him with the new girl. I've enlisted my friends to give the girl the cold shoulder, but it doesn't seem to have any effect (in the past, I'd even had my friends help indicate to newcomers that I had dibs on Adam, but that didn't work out too well either).
How do I get him to admit that clearly I'm the one he's supposed to be with? It seems so obvious to me.
– Chasing Adam, Somerville
A: CA, I don't want you chasing anyone. Chases are exhausting. There is no need to work so hard to mark territory that isn't yours.
Do I think Adam loves you? Not like you love him. He certainly doesn't give you a whole lot of respect. He likes you enough to spend time with you but he wants to settle down with someone else. I'm not convinced at all that he'll eventually wind up in your arms. He's treating you like a placeholder.
You must start looking for someone new who is proud to call you his partner. The beginnings of relationships do often involve chasing, wooing, convincing, and wondering, but it's supposed to get a bit easier once the relationship gets going. This guy has been fighting you from the start. His actions and words indicate that he's not yours. I want you to find someone who is.
Your homework is to stand in front of a mirror before bed every night and say, "Adam is not mine. I don't have dibs." Because he isn't -- and you don't. Go out and find something better. And tell your friends that you want their help.
Readers? Does Adam love her? Will he ever be with her? Is he just putting off the inevitable? How can the LW let Adam go? What do you think of her friends territory for her? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm meh about dating
Q: Hi Meredith,
I've recently somehow managed to attract a rather lovely woman. This doesn't happen too often these days, as I am somewhat beastly. As such, logic would dictate that I take advantage of this situation to its fullest. The problem is I just have no drive to get out there and date.
A couple of years ago, I was almost married to an ex-girlfriend (let’s call her "She Who Shall Not Be Named"). After about 5 years together, I discovered she was cooking in another dude's kitchen. I was wrecked.
I'm rapidly approaching 40. Never married. And although I had several relationships when I was younger, the urge is just gone.
Some of it is the somewhat irrational belief that every woman out there is a ticking time bomb of heart stomping fury. The rest ... well ... let's just say that when I was younger I was a bit of the old "Knight in Shining Armor," and somehow I've morphed into Shrek.
I'm a chubby, bald, hairy dude who snores, drools on the pillow, and has some random health issues that make me unreliable for plans. Also, I've got a low grade job for low grade pay. (Seriously, I wouldn't just have issues paying for decent dates, I'd have issues with the money spent on the GAS I'd have to use to date.) Not that I'm cheap, I just don't have much extra at the end of the month.
And, of course, since I'm a guy, I have no interest in a female ogre (Continuing the Shrek theme). You can't choose what you're attracted to, and I'm attracted to females of the non-ogre variety.
Basically, aside from being a nice and occasionally funny guy, I don't feel like I've got much to offer anyone. I've talked to a couple of therapists in the past who claim that there are plenty of women who would be happy with just a nice, occasionally funny guy. Personally, I think I'd have an easier time finding Bigfoot.
Sadly, "love" has always been the most important thing in the world to me, and without it, life's just a big steaming pile of "meh."
As for the woman who's interested -- I'm feeling a combo of "I have nothing to offer and since I've got nothing to offer, I'll end up getting hurt in the end if I pursue this."
– Salem Shrek
A:Come on, SS.
Life without love is "meh." But now that an attractive woman is interested in you, you're behaving "meh." Even Shrek had more motivation.
The first thing you need to do is to start looking for a new job. It's important that you feel less "meh" about your life.
Then, after you've sent out a few resumes (and I mean this week), you need to call this woman and ask her out for coffee. Coffee is cheap. You said she's already into you, which means she knows what she's in for. There's no way she's expecting a three-course meal. And, if you follow my resume rule, you'll be able to describe yourself to her as someone who's looking to advance his career.
And here's the tough love part: You must, must get over yourself. We all get older. We all get chubby. Many of us get hurt by somebody who winds up in somebody else's kitchen. And many of us are dealing with chronic illnesses. This self-deprecating routine isn't going to be endearing for very long. You're wasting your 30s wallowing in meh.
You can't be lazy about love. Shrek (the Shrek in the sequels) would tell you to get off your rump, start improving your situation, and call yourself what you are -- a thirty-something, employed single guy who can crack a joke. That doesn't sound so bad, right?
Also, please talk to those therapists about why you feel so meh. If there's some depression stuff here, especially concerning the random health issues, you should figure that out sooner than later.
Readers? Should he call this woman if he's not happy with himself? Is this about the job, the illness, or laziness? Is this about dealing with aging? Do we all go from being Knights to being Shreks? How do you treat the condition known as meh? Discuss.
– Meredith
I fear the stats
Q: Hi Meredith!
I am a long time LL lurker, and I mean YEARS. My problem (more like a general grievance) is that there is no advice out there for people in successful relationships to maintain those relationships. People speak in generalities about things getting rough. What does that mean?
Some background: I am 26, my boyfriend is 28, and I have finally stumbled upon the kind of fairy-tale romance that little girls dream of and women like me assumed was the way of the unicorn. My boyfriend and I are great together. Even our fights are constructive and make us feel closer by the end. I am moving in with him next month and we are starting to talk about marriage.
The problem is that I am way too logical for my own good. I can't get over the fact that 50% of marriages end in divorce. I'm assuming that 50% of these marriages don't occur in Vegas, so what is it exactly that's tearing people apart? My wonderful boyfriend tells me that we shouldn't worry about it because we have such great communication skills (cheesy, right?) and talking about this stuff will prevent it from happening to us. This reminds me of the statistic that something like 80% of people think they are smarter than average. I don't want to just "wing it" and then, two years down the road, find out what those divorced 50% know that I don't. There seems to be no advice or literature or anything to help someone like me figure out what is necessary to make this thing work. All I can find are books that are either about finding Jesus or taming your chakras in order to have a fulfilling relationship.
I would love nothing more than to spend the rest of my life with my boyfriend. However, I know things will get rocky. What are those things? How can I get a head start so I know how to handle them when they come up?
– Maritally Illiterate, Newton
A: I hate the "50 percent of marriages fail" stat, MI. It's misleading. There are a lot of people out there who stay together for decades without getting married. There are also a lot of people who stay unhappily married for years. Once you consider that, the stat becomes meaningless. If only we could poll mature couples who communicate well. Maybe the numbers would be different.
You have everything you need to succeed – except the willingness to admit that a lot of this is out of your hands. You can't anticipate what your fights will be when you turn 40. You can't anticipate what issues will make you want to move out of the house for a few weeks when you turn 35 (it might happen). But you also can't anticipate all of the wonderful things that will occur during the marriage, all of the great memories that you'll make as a couple.
The best thing to do is to ignore the stats and move in with your boyfriend. Because once you do, you'll see some of the stuff that might bother you later. And you'll see that your boyfriend is right -- at the beginning of a good relationship, all you can do is communicate and cross your fingers.
Readers? Will she figure all of this out when she moves in? How do you ignore the marriage stats? Could anyone have anticipated their marital problems at the start of their relationship? Discuss.
– Meredith
I sabotaged the relationship
Q: Dear Meredith,
I dated someone for six years who I thought I would marry. One day he just told me he wasn't happy and that he was done. He left me with major abandonment issues. After he left, I started dating guys who I knew were wrong for me so I didn't have be as vulnerable as I was in my six-year relationship.
My problem is that I've had a friend for years who has always been an important part of my life. We both have strong-willed personalities, which have caused disagreements even in our friendship. But one of the things I've always loved is that it's easy for us to just say OK, we don't agree, and move on, friendship unscathed.
About two years ago, I confessed that I felt something more than friends and wanted a romantic relationship with him. Well, I pulled such a coward move and did this while he was living in across the country knowing that I wouldn't have to act on my feelings. A year later, we were both back in Boston and he really wanted to try a relationship. I had just gotten out of a relationship with one of those guys I shouldn't have been dating because they were wrong for me. My friend and I tried to make things work but he ended up getting hurt because I wasn't fully in it because of my feelings for my ex.
After this, we didn't talk for a while and our friendship really suffered. But in the winter, we saw each other and all the feelings rushed back in for both of us. We ended up going home together that night and deciding that we were both going to just be happy together -- but I wouldn't be writing if this all worked out. I ended up bringing a lot of my feelings of abandonment into the relationship. I would be really happy for a week and then I would freak out and look for reasons that we wouldn't work or pick a fight to test him. Well, I succeeded and sabotaged everything. He finally decided that we were just too different. He was apologizing a lot because I would keep picking fights about stupid little things and he just didn't want to continue to apologize for the way he is or feel like he didn't to change for me to be happy. Just to give a brief example, he is very passionate about video games and I would just say I hated them and that I didn't want to know anything about them even though I knew it was important to him. I was just trying to push him away and it worked.
I didn't realize what I was doing until it was too late. It's been two weeks and I feel like such an idiot that I let my fear of abandonment get the best of me and hurt him in the process. I've explained all of this to him over the weekend and he took it all in but needs some time to process and decides if he can give me another chance, which I completely understand.
What do you think? Have too many bridges already been burned?
– Pusher, Boston
A: Pusher, I'm not convinced that you sabotaged this relationship because you have abandonment issues. Maybe you have them. I don't know. But isn't it possible that you're picking fights with this guy because you're annoyed? Or because you don't want to date a guy who loves video games? You told us that you and this friend have always had strong, conflicting opinions. That's why I think that the failure of this relationship wasn't about "issues." Maybe it was just about two people not being compatible.
Before you make promises you can't keep you should consider why you're begging this friend to stick around as a romantic partner. Because I don't think that you sabotage relationships. I think that you try to prolong them when you shouldn't. You're obviously attracted to your friend but that might not be enough.
Think about what you really want and why it's not working out, abandonment issues aside. He just might not be the right guy.
Readers? Is this about abandonment issues or about a relationship simply running its course? Is this guy just another person she's dated knowing that it wouldn't work? Should she be trying to work it out with him? Discuss.
– Meredith
Should we move in with my dad?
Q: Dear Meredith,
I have been dating my current boyfriend (Harry) for 8 months. He is 28 and I am 26.
Harry and I have basically lived together for the past few months and we've decided to get our own apartment this summer. There is one catch. My dad lives in the area and he is a widower. My mom passed away almost 10 years ago. Dad is a great guy and gets along well with Harry. Anyway, my dad suggested that Harry and I move in with him instead of getting our own place so we could save some money. This might sound like a strange idea, but my dad works a LOT so he really isn't home that much, his house is very big, and he isn't overprotective at all.
At first I said no way; we don't absolutely need to save money. But I've been thinking about it more lately and I'm starting to believe that my dad wants us to move in because his is lonely. He has lived by himself for two years and before that just with my younger sister, who is now in college. So I now really feel like I should move in with him -- not because I feel obligated to, but because he has always been great to me and I really don't want him living all by himself. I honestly feel like this is something I have to do.
I explained this to Harry and was a little surprised by how against this idea he was, especially since he is always so easy going about everything. The reason he gave me was that it "would look weird" for him to be living with my dad. And while I agree that in 99% of cases it would, this is a different situation. I've asked a bunch of friends and the opinion is pretty mixed as to whether I would be expecting too much of Harry to ask him to do this. I've come to realize that if this is so important to Harry, I should really respect his feelings about this.
I don't want to hurt Harry but at this point I feel like the most important thing is for me to be there for my dad. I am not at all thinking about ending things with Harry, but I need to figure out a way to do what I feel like I need to do (be there for my dad) while continuing to have Harry in my life. I don't believe that living in our own apartment and seeing my dad on the weekends is enough. I know that even if I did live with my dad we wouldn't see each other much during the week, but it would still be significantly more than otherwise, especially since I work most weekends. I also think that it would just make my dad feel better to know that someone else is living in the house.
What would you suggest?
– Good Daughter or Good Girlfriend?, Boston
A: I'm with Harry, GDOGG. I don't think you should move in with Dad. Not because it would "look weird," but because it wouldn't be healthy for anyone involved. You can't live with your dad forever so you'd essentially be creating another temporary situation for him. It would be better for all three of you if you lived close to your dad, made lots of plans with him, forced him to do some social things outside of the house, and then went home to Harry to live the normal life of a young couple.
You can't be a fake spouse for your dad and he really doesn't seem like the kind of guy who wants to be babysat. He works a lot, he's a capable guy, and he needs to learn how to be independent. He might want to date. He might want to make friends his own age. He can't do that if his kid is filling all of his emotional voids.
This thing you're feeling with your dad might have to do with some of your needs and insecurities, by the way. Maybe you feel overwhelmed because you've met the guy you might marry. Maybe you miss your mom and fear that coupling off will pull you from your roots. And that's why you have to move in with Harry -- alone. Commit to spending a lot of time with Dad and being a good daughter but balance that by living the life of a 26-year-old in a good relationship. That's all you can/should do. Let everybody (including yourself) evolve.
Readers? Should she move in with her dad? Is Harry right? Does Dad even want her there? How can she balance her concerns about her father with the needs of her relationship? Discuss.
– Meredith
Should I move with him?
Q: Hi Meredith,
I have been a lurker on LL for a few years now and decided that now is the time to be writing in for advice. I apologize in advance if this letter gets lengthy!
I met my boyfriend a year and a half ago through a mutual friend. At first we were just making grilled cheese, but as we grew to know each other, it turned into a lot more. I honestly could not ask for a more loving and genuine man. We also share the same goals and can easily see a future together. Here's the problem -- he's an officer in the military and being with him means becoming a "military wife."
We knew (though I chose to forget) from the beginning of our relationship that he would only be stationed in Boston for two years. What we didn't know until recently was where he would be stationed for the next three years. The answer ended up being New Orleans. It's worth mentioning that he will be at a land job there and that based on his position in the military, he doesn't go abroad. So my question now is -- do I go with him?
He wants me to move with him and at 25, I feel we're at the age where this would be a natural progression for the relationship. But I've never really been the adventurous type. I don't like change or surprises. It's been nerve-wracking to contemplate moving to a city that I hear nothing but bad news about, especially when I love it here in Boston. If the decision were just about love then I would go with him. But I think realistically, it takes more than that.
If I move I'd be giving up my job, living close to friends and family, and living in a city I adore. Sure, I could find a new job (I don't like my current one anyway) and new friends easily enough. But it's the thought of having to start that process over again in a new city every few years that's truly overwhelming to me. On the bright side, I'd be with an amazing man who would provide me with a secure and happy life.
What factors should I be using to determine whether I go? Should I stop questioning everything and just take a leap of faith?
– Do I Stay or Go? Cambridge, MA
A: A few weeks ago, DISOG, we had a letter writer ask about becoming a military wife. Her issue was the lifestyle and the fear of deployment. Your issue seems to be change. And for that reason, I say go. Go and make yourself uncomfortable. Go and see a new city. New Orleans is a wonderful place with music, scenery, Anne Rice's vampires, history, Brad Pitt, and some of the best food I've ever consumed.
And really, I think you already know that you're going. So let me give you some practical advice. Look into joining some social groups ASAP -- book clubs, a cooking class, etc. Sign up before you even get there. Then ask two of your friends or family members to commit to visiting you within the first three months you're there. That will help.
Then sit down with your boyfriend and ask him for advice. He's more accustomed to change and must be aware that it's not going to be as easy for you. Ask him to be sensitive to how you're adjusting and to make sure that he's including you in his new life, not just after he gets home.
Even if you stay here, your home life is going to change. You're 25. Somebody's going to move or have a kid or marry some person you don't want to see. Life is fluid. And this is the best time to find out what you actually think of this man -- and this lifestyle.
Readers? Is this about the military or about moving for someone? Any advice for the LW about how to avoid freaking out on a partner after a move? New Orleans tourist info? Is it relevant that his military job keeps him at home? How is the LW different from the other? Have a happy Easter.
– Meredith
We haven't said we're back together
Q: My fella and I have been on/off for 3 years. I was the first (and only) girl he'd ever been in love with. Each off period commenced with both of us crying and saying how much we love each other but acknowledging that it wasn't working. Each of the reunions has involved him promising to try harder. It comes down to the fact that he has some emotional baggage that prevents him from being everything I need and want from him. He can't express his feelings well. I, on the other hand, work perfectly for him. He thinks he's bad for me, isn't giving me what I need, and that he doesn't deserve me. But all I want is him.
A year ago December we broke up "for good." It was comical how badly I took it. I spent months crying, never falling out of love with him -- but we agreed to not talk and to try to move on. We decided we couldn't be friends because we were too in love. He moved 2 hours away. I spent 2010 trying to get my life in order and trying to get over fella to start dating again. And I did. I tried. HARD. But never got my fella out of my head. This past December I had had enough. It had been a year and I felt exactly the same as when we broke up. I was in love with this man and it wasn't going away.
I sent a text (I know, I know, but I'm the product of the modern age). It was an "I miss you" text. I didn't expect a response but I got one that said he misses me too, wants to get together, etc. The reunion was amazing. It's now been 3 months. We see each other every other weekend. Every visit is perfect. We talk everyday -- he's affectionate, listens, talks more than ever -- like a new and improved fella.
When we go out, though, I'm introduced as "his friend" even though to anyone with eyes, we're together. When someone asks if we're dating, we both just kind of make odd noises and give blank stares. I finally got sick of this. During a recent visit I said, "We need to stop seeing each other. If this is going nowhere, I can't do this." He starts crying. Sobbing. Saying I'm the only person he wants to be with. Says he wants to bring me home, says he wants to meet my parents (yeah we never did that). But still we have not had the "are we back together" part of the conversation.
I think I'm afraid to have the conversation because if we become official then there it is, the "official commitment" that potentially could end in another break up. This unofficial togetherness seems safe because since we're not boyfriend girlfriend we can't "break up," right? But what are we doing? Am I wasting my time? If I bring it up, will he think it's a bad idea? I know this might seem trite but I'd like to hear your advice/insight -- it's always so level headed. Sorry for the novel.
– Sentence Fragments and Dashes, Massachusetts
A: The thing is, SFAD, no matter what you call this thing you're in, you can't avoid the possibility of a breakup. If you ended it now, there would have to be a talk. You don't have to be somebody's girlfriend to get dumped.
And that's why my advice is to have Part 2 of the talk. You started it, so finish it. He wants to meet your parents? Fine. Then he should also want to be your boyfriend and confirm that you're in a relationship. You restarted this thing in December and now it's almost May. He shouldn't be freaking out when people ask him if he's dating you. You're back together. If the two of you can't call it that, you're setting yourself up to fail.
My advice: Don't make the talk a huge deal. You don't have to ambush him with questions. All you need to say is, "Do you mind if I call you my boyfriend? Because I'd like to." Some of these talks are supposed to be fun. Explain that you're just psyched to celebrate what you have.
Readers? What's her boyfriend's problem? Is this really about the title? What should she do? Is what they have good enough? Would another talk be bad? Discuss.
– Meredith
We've been engaged for years
Q: Hi Meredith,
I am in my mid 30s and have never been married. I would like to experience this in my life. I have a beautiful daughter I have raised by myself. I sometimes feel I have failed her by not giving her the childhood I had with both parents. I have tried to find a person to share our lives with for most of hers. That brings me to "Greg."
I have been in a relationship with "Greg" for eight years. He is a wonderful man who I love very much ... however ... we became engaged four years ago and he won't set a date.
I took my ring off because I feel he doesn't want to marry me. When I mention it, he just avoids the conversation or plans a surprise trip to keep me from ending it. He was in a bad marriage before and I think he's scared to try it with me. I think this is unfair and he should have faith and trust in me. Isn't that what a relationship is all about?
I don't know what to do.
Although Greg is good to my daughter he is not a dad to her. They don't have a relationship I would consider a close one.
Our relationship has suffered because of my closeness with my daughter. At times I think he's jealous of her. I actually feel guilty about it. Like it or not, I am a mother first!
As I read this back I think ... this is SO obvious that it's time to move on ... but I feel stuck.
I guess my question is...when is enough, enough?? How do you move on when you thought you were going to spend your life with someone??
– Heartbroken, Massachusetts
A: Sounds like you have a great boyfriend who isn't doing much to be a great husband. He loves you. He takes you on trips. After eight years, he still wants you. But you want more.
I want you to make a decision about this relationship based on your needs, not your daughter's. I know that you're a mom first -- and that's great -- but you're not shopping for a new dad for your kid. You're looking for the right partner for you, someone who respects that you're a parent and can give you the support you need to do the job. If your partner bonds with your daughter, that's just a bonus.
And because I'm prioritizing your needs, I keep coming back to the opening of your letter: "I am in my mid 30s and have never been married. I would like to experience this in my life." Daughter aside, you want a different relationship than the one you're in. I can't promise that something better is waiting if you leave -- ending things with Greg is a risk, for sure -- but you have to stay true to yourself. After eight years, your wants haven't changed. Get some final answers from Greg so that you can make a real decision.
And as for moving on, well, there's no easy fix. You'll need a new routine and some time to mourn. That's another letter for another day.
Readers? Greg does seem to love her, but what's holding him back? Is she being unrealistic about the dad stuff? What should she say to Greg? Should she end this relationship or give it a chance? Discuss.
– Meredith
He wants to take it slow
Q: Dear Meredith,
I'm a 39-year-old single professional living in Brooklyn and working in NYC. I have been in one serious relationship my entire life (that lasted only 1.5 years) but feel that I'm really ready to find "the one" and settle down. I'm originally from Boston and have only lived in NYC for 4 years. At my age, it's been tough to break into social circles and make new legitimate friends. I've been using Match.com to increase the number in the dating pool. I met a guy in December who is great. Super smart, super funny, super sarcastic -- in short, just my type. We've been dating regularly since then. We go out about once a week. We have a great time. We "talk" (read text) often during the week, but never really talk on the phone. We usually go out on Saturday nights and he stays over at my place.
I'm at a point where I would like to move to the next level and date him exclusively. We had "the talk" last week. He's not ready for a relationship. He wants to take things slow and though he thinks I'm great and that we have the potential to turn into something more, he doesn't want to rush into anything. I should mention that he is divorced. He was married for 10 years and has been divorced for about 3. After his divorce he jumped into a relationship with a girl that lasted about 10 months but ultimately it didn't work out. He feels like he doesn't want to make the mistake of rushing into anything again. He says that I'm the only person he's been seeing regularly, but that he has been on dates with other women. He also says that I am the only person that he is sleeping with.
I'm not sure what to do. He seems very sincere. Do I wait it out for a bit and hope that he comes around? I feel strongly that he has a lot of the qualities that I am looking for and he makes me feel really great when I am with him. Should I invest some more time in this and just see where it goes? Or am I just being naive? I haven't felt this strongly about someone in a long time.
– Wanting to Believe, Brooklyn
A: I appreciate his honesty, WTB, and I believe that he might be into this -- just not enough to make promises at the moment. Frustrating.
What bothers me about the whole thing is that you only see each other once a week. I know that New York City is annoying to get around, but you have to see more of him. In order for you to make a real decision about him (note that I'm making your decision the priority), you need more than texts during the week. Camp-like sleepovers on the weekends are not enough. Saturday nights aren't reality.
Tell him that you'd like to make time for a Wednesday dinner or a Thursday night in front of the TV. That's the compromise. He should want to figure out whether he wants more from you -- and that takes more time than he's giving.
Readers? Should she even want more time with him? Do you feel comfortable with his reasoning? After his failed relationships, is it good that he's taking it slow? Should the LW be spending her time seeing other people? Discuss.
– Meredith
I rarely feel a special connection
A note from yesterday's letter writer: "I can't even begin to express how your advice and the words of your readers have uplifted me today. I am seriously in awe at the kindness and compassion of strangers right now."
I'm in awe of us, too. As usual.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I've read your column for the past few years. For the most part, the LW's problems seem to have had common sense solutions. It's funny how those common sense solutions seem to go out the window when you are the one stuck in the middle of a problem.
Who I am: 25-year-old female, college graduate, extremely active, and changing careers. There isn't much I haven't tried when it comes to activities (still haven't bungee jumped or scuba dived). Overall life is GREAT.
However, I feel like I've done something wrong -- or am not doing something right -- in the relationship department. I dated guys often in high school and college, typically for only two months. I have never cheated or been cheated on but my longest relationship to date is only nine months, and while it was with a guy I saw myself marrying, most of our time together was long distance. We ended our relationship three years ago but are friends and talk every so often. No, I would never get back with him. He wanted me back a month after we broke up but I had met someone else, a girl. She and I only lasted two months because I was moving.
Over the past three years I've managed to casually date women and have had the opportunity to enter into relationships but it never felt right so I declined. My main dilemma is that only about four times have I felt that indescribable "connection" to someone. But when that has happened, dating never lasted more than a month and the other girl always ended it. This happened to me very recently and I'm more than bummed. I'm at the point where I am happy with who I am, what I'm doing, and where I am heading in life. I've reached a point where my friends and family aren't enough. I want someone special. That unspeakable special connection so rarely happens for me that I'm losing hope and patience. How does everyone else seem to fall in love more easily than I do? Am I broken? I'm guessing writers are going to suggest therapy.
– Losing Hope But Not Giving Up, Southern Mass
A: My guess, LHBNGU, is that no one's going to suggest therapy. Because here are the important stats:
Number of times you've dated someone you thought you might marry: 1
Number of times you've felt an indescribable romantic connection with another human: 4
Number of years you've been alive: 25
You put it best: There's an easy, common sense solution to most problems, and your solution is to be patient. Your stats make you pretty normal, even if the people around you are falling in love more frequently. Whether you date men or women, you can't change 25. At 25, you're in the thick of the first wave of people finding life mates. That can make a single person feel pretty insecure. But eventually you realize that there's a second wave. And a third wave. And a fourth. Some people ride more than one wave.
So keep dating. And find some single friends who make you feel normal. And (drum roll please ... this is a first) don't run to a therapist. Just go be 25 and date pretty girls or boys until one doesn't want to let go. You're just bummed because of your most recent breakup. It'll get better.
Readers? Any advice for this 25-year-old? Does the gender of the letter writer -- or her dates -- matter? Is her old ex relevant? Is this recent breakup the real problem? Discuss.
– Meredith
She left because of my drinking
Chat day.
Q: Dear Meredith,
My live-in girlfriend of almost three years left me a month and a half ago. I cannot blame her for this, as it was due to my alcoholism. Back in the winter I lost my job, which was unrelated to my problem but very seriously exacerbated it. I had nothing but time on my hands and used it the only way I knew how to deal with the depression I was experiencing. Within two months I had a very serious problem. I lashed out at her emotionally, said a lot of hurtful things I would never say sober, scared her, and she was scared for me. Eventually this led her to moving in with a friend for a couple weeks and then buying a plane ticket home.
Before she left, I sobered up and started going to AA meetings and continue doing so today. She had said that if I flew out to prove to her that I was better and showed her I truly love her that she would come back. That was initially the agreement anyway … but in the last couple weeks that agreement has changed on her part. To the tune of, "You aren't the right person for me, I don't love you, and we will never be together again. Goodbye forever." Two days later, we are texting again under the condition that I don't talk about "us." So far I have kept my word and given her space but I can't help but get the feeling she is seeing someone else. But I know that if I were to even ask I would be immediately shut out again and possibly for good.
Do I just keep in contact with her through texts and see if things change or do I sever all ties completely? I feel like I could only cut her out of my life is she was with someone else but I have no way of knowing. I truly love her and marriage was once a frequently talked about subject. I'm still unemployed so even if I got a job tomorrow it would be months before I could go visit her. A lot can happen in that time and I don't even know if it will be an option again. I just want her back but this is looking to be a long and heartbreaking process.
– I Just Want Her Back, Boston
A: IJWHB, I understand that you want to restore your life to what it was before you lost your job and allowed the alcohol to take over, but that's not going to happen right this second. You're looking for a quick fix for a big problem.
It has been less than two months since she left. You've barely processed what you've done and why, and she's probably just as confused as you are. My advice is to tell her that you need to spend some time figuring out why you handled your problems the way you did. Explain that you don't want to lose her in the process. Then tell her you love her and that you're confused. Because you are.
Then continue getting healthy. I know you're unemployed, but call your insurance company and ask about therapy. Try to stop wondering who your girlfriend is meeting wherever she is because it's sort of irrelevant. She was with you for three years, which means she knows what you have to offer when you're at your best. Again, it has only been a little over a month. She just unpacked her bags.
Focus on you and take your time. That's easier said than done, I know, but it's the only thing you can do -- whether she sticks around or not.
Readers? Is he trying to fix this too quickly? How can he taking his time with this process without losing her? How can he stop wondering what she's doing wherever she is? What should he tell her? Help.
– Meredith
When can I have the talk?
Thanks to everyone who gave me flu advice on Twitter. I think it's getting better.
Q: I moved to the Seattle area about eight months ago for grad school. About three months ago I started dating an exceptionally kind, funny, perceptive, and whip-smart gentleman who is graduating this spring. His degree allows him a certain amount of flexibility, both in terms of the kind of jobs he could take, and the kinds of places he could live.
Our relationship has moved relatively quickly, at least from an objective standpoint. We spent 4-6 nights a week together and I am meeting his parents for the first time this weekend (who live several states away). Many of those first troublesome experiences, things like traveling together, for example, we've tackled famously. I feel like there's an enormous amount of potential with this man and it seems to be a mutual feeling. We've talked about the fact that we both have zero reservations about our relationship.
I'm writing because I don't know if I should ask him to consider trying to find a job here or just leave it alone. The area does have opportunities for him but his family and many of his friends are elsewhere. If we were at 6-9 months I would have no problem talking openly about this with him, since that's a reasonable place to at least start discussing the long-term potential of a relationship, but I feel like I'm jumping the gun if I bring it up. And at the same time, I think giving this relationship more time to be explored makes a ton of sense. Thoughts?
– Too Soon To Ask?, Seattle (Recently Boston)
A: You have my permission to ask, TSTA. You don't have to demand to know whether he plans to live near you, marry you, and make your babies, but you can ask him what he's thinking about doing next year. You can certainly tell him that you're trying to enjoy the present but that his after-school life is on your mind. I'm sure it's on his, too.
He said that he has zero reservations about your relationship, right? That's your answer. Talk, but don't make it the biggest deal in the world. All you have to say is, "Sometimes I worry about next year." And that's it. You can figure out the rest together.
(For the record, I think that he should apply to jobs at home and near you. He can cover his bases and then make a confident decision about where to live when he's ready.)
Readers? Is it too soon for her to ask him about his future? Should she? Does it have to be a big talk? Anyone else having pre-graduation angst? Discuss.
– Meredith
Did I pick the wrong guy?
Q: Dear Mere,
I have been dating this guy -- let's call him Jake -- for about six years. We grew up in the same town, hung out with the same group of people, and we just clicked. Our relationship started off far from perfect. I cheated on him with my previous ex, who was my first love but also cheated on me. That one mistake has haunted me ever since.
Jake and I got past my cheat (or so I thought) and started off fresh. I was loyal, honest, I spoiled him, and went above and beyond to prove to him that it was a mistake and that I would never put him through that again. For a long time, things were going awesome but I learned the hard way that the sun has to set at some point. Jake started to become this whole different person. He wanted to hide me from the world and have me when it was convenient for him. Before I knew it, I had given up everything -- my friends, my social life, my time, everything for this kid who couldn't possibly still love me. He would break up with me repeatedly and I would apologize for doing nothing.
After a while our relationship became nothing. I gradually started going out again and experiencing life. One night at a party I took a leap and started talking to his other guy, Ray. I found him so attractive. We started a text relationship after the party which later led to meeting up, first kiss, the whole nine.
For once I wasn't crying myself to sleep. I was smiling again. But like I said, the sun always sets at some point and Jake got wind of this "new guy" and all of a sudden demanded answers. Jake admitted to his mistakes and was all of a sudden saying things I always dreamed he would say.
Jake and I are now back together. We encounter rough patches here and there but our relationship has dramatically improved. I smile, laugh, and can honestly say I am happy. But here's where the mixed feelings take place. Ray and I ended on a civil note. I apologized for rushing things with him. But I find myself constantly thinking about him and regretting my decision to go back to Jake even though I am happy. I just feel like sooner or later, the sun is going to set for Jake and I again and it's killing me waiting for that day. Did I make the wrong decision?
– stuck between two, south boston
A: I don't know if you picked the wrong guy, SBT. If you had stayed with Ray, maybe he would have turned into a jerk, bored you, or moved away. I have no idea. But I understand why you're having second thoughts about Jake. You know how bad it can get with him. Ray never wronged you.
The trick is to trust yourself. You picked Jake because you needed to know if it could be good again. And that's that. If "the sun sets" on the two of you this time around, you'll be able to walk away with your questions answered. And you certainly won't stick around if it starts to get bad again. You've learned that lesson.
If you had written this letter when you were deciding between the two guys I might have had a different answer for you. But you've chosen. And at the moment, you're in a relationship that makes you smile. Get off the what-if hamster wheel and enjoy it.
Readers? Should she drop Jake? How can she forget about Ray? Did she make a mistake? Help.
– Meredith
She's a STAGE FIVE clinger
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Your book reviews are here ... and this (below) has "Friday letter" written all over it. Enjoy.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I'm considered a pretty nice person, which at times is not good. Yes, I have gotten the whole "You're too nice" malarkey several times. And no, this is not one of those "waaahhh I'm too nice, I hate my life waaaahh" stories. No, I'm not like that I, I don't play that card, I find it pathetic. But every once in a while I wish I could be more of a jerk.
I'm a single person in my late 20s. I love my independence. I do things for myself and answer to no one. Would I like to have a girlfriend? Sure, if it's right, but right now I have other priorities. So, a couple weeks ago, I hooked up with this girl and she stayed over. Sweet, right? Wrong. I've known this person for a long time and had a sense that she liked me but I wanted no part of her beyond what we were doing that night and made that explicitly clear. Before anything physical began I reviewed the ground rules (this is what it is and not anything more, I don't want you calling me all the time, I will not visit you, I do not feel for you romantically, this is just a hook up etc etc). And now I am being mercilessly bombarded with numerous daily texts, phone calls, Facebook chat messages and wall posts, she's friended my friends ... I hate when my cell phone buzzes. Seriously it's NON STOP. I've reminded her of my pre-bedroom riot act speech but nothing changed. Currently I'm ignoring her and it’s not working.
So this where the whole "nice" thing comes in. I'm not totally unaccustomed to clingers, but this is for sure a STAGE 5 CLINGER. I usually have good radar for them, but I definitely let my guard down to satisfy an urge, and now this has become my life. My friends think this is hilarious, but even she's annoying them. Any breakup or parting of ways, aside from a couple nasty heartbreaks, has either been mutual, cordial, or ended by passive disinterest. I have never had to resort to being a jerk to get rid of someone and I really do not want start now. I feel like that might be my only resort unless you can figure out an alternative.
– Exploding Phone, South Shore
A: My dear EP, feel free to cut this next paragraph and email it to your clinger.
Dear [insert clinger's name here],
This is a difficult email to write. I'm concerned about our friendship. I allowed our relationship to become physical a few weeks ago and it was probably a mistake. I've been noticing that you're contacting me a lot more often than you used to, and while I think that you're pretty great, I just can't be the friend/partner you're looking for. I'm starting to feel guilty when I don't pick up the phone, and when I do pick up the phone, I afraid that it means more than it should. I think that we should take some space to figure out how to make our relationship more like it used to be. I care about you and don't want to hurt you. But I also want to be honest and make it clear that I was happy with what we had before we crossed a line. I hope you understand. For now, let's keep our distance.
Sincerely,
[your name here]
That answer falls somewhere between passive and jerky and makes it possible for you to block her on Facebook and to ignore her calls without feeling as though you're disappearing without explanation. Just be clear about what you need -- and do it respectfully. It's called being empathetic and assertive. You're capable.
Readers? How can he tell her to back off? Should he have known better than to start a recreational relationship with someone who likes him? Should his "ground rules" have been enough for her? Anybody else want to draft the e-mail (or should it be a phone call?) for this LW? Discuss.
– Meredith
My boyfriend's friend flirts with him
Book reviews will be posted tomorrow.
Q: Hi Meredith,
My boyfriend and I are happily in love, good for each other, and it's pretty great.
Recently, a friend of my boyfriend came on to him; she asked him to break up with me and be with her. I had always had my suspicions about this girl, and though I made them known, I never asked him not to see her or anything as they had been friends for years. She's one of those girls -- dresses just a little too provocatively, feels the need to touch members of the opposite sex while in conversation just a bit too often, and in my opinion, is obviously insecure.
After this happened, I was pretty upset, but decided that since he had done nothing wrong, I wouldn't let it ruin us. Unfortunately that's not the end of this story. She continues to periodically reach out to him to see how he is doing, make plans, etc. The message back to her has always been clear -- thanks, but no thanks.
It's inevitable that I will run into her at some point. Never once has she made any effort to acknowledge me (or her outrageous actions) when trying to get back into his life. How do I handle it when I see her? I know the high road is best, but I would really like to express to her that her inconsiderate actions were very hurtful to me and that she put my boyfriend in a terrible position (some friend, right?).
– Can I Put Her in Her Place and Still Be the Bigger Person?
A: Would you get anything out of telling her that she has been disrespectful? Besides the instant gratification of speaking your mind? I don't think you would, CIPHIHPASBTBP. She knows that she has misbehaved. She doesn't care. I know the high road seems, well, lame, but it's the safest route.
My advice is to be nice. Not just diplomatic, but really, really nice. You have some empathy for her -- you've already figured out that she's insecure -- so use that empathy to fuel your smiles. Ask her how she's doing. Remind her that you're in the room. Be genuine and friendly and maybe she'll learn to follow your lead.
As for your boyfriend, well, it's his job to keep you comfortable. It's his responsibility to set boundaries and to say to his so-called friend -- if it becomes necessary -- "I need you to respect and support my relationship." It sounds like he's figuring this out, and I'm glad he's keeping you in the loop.
Hang in there and stay on the high road. It's a good road to be on. You'll never have to doubt yourself up there.
Readers? Should she have a talk with the woman? Should the boyfriend be doing more to help? Should the LW engage this woman or ignore her? Discuss.
– Meredith
He's late for our dates
Q: Hi Meredith,
I'm 28 and met "Jay" 8 months ago. We've been together ever since and he is funny, affectionate, caring, and I always have fun when we are together. However, we have one big problem. I work full time and take classes at night so I am incredibly busy. However, I have always made time and followed through with our plans to spend time together. He has a few stressful things going on in his private life. One is that he works temp jobs and then has breaks until he finds a new one. He is terrible at following through with plans. In the past two weeks he has canceled on me six times, once he actually forgot he had promised to come make me dinner because I was sick. He isn't working right now and he didn't even call. This has been a particularly bad patch but he frequently cancels at the last minute about once a week. I am more surprised when he shows up than when he cancels.
I have explained that with my tight schedule it isn't fair to me because I frequently turn down invitations thinking I have plans. Even though his excuses are often legitimate, he doesn't have time management skills and will cancel plans for Friday and Saturday night to do things he should have finished during the week days. He also shuts down and won't leave his room or have anyone over if he's having a bad day. He knows it upsets me, he knows why, but seems unable to change this behavior. He says that I am too rigid in my need to plan things. I have tried to compromise by no longer asking him to be there at a certain time (he is always running late) and instead just ask him to meet "Friday night." However, I have to plan at least a few days in advance because of my work, classes, and homework. He insists he is much better when he has a regular schedule but he’s been temping the entire time I have known him.
Do I leave someone who is great in so many other ways but can't be counted on to follow through? Am I being too rigid and should I try and be more flexible? Is this a small detail in the big scheme of things?
– Waiting by the Phone, Boston
A: He's great in other ways, WBTP? It doesn't matter how many ways he's great if you don't get to see him. Being late every now and then is understandable. So is canceling plans. But once a week? Six cancellations over two weeks? Unacceptable.
These constant cancellations and late arrivals bum me out because they suggest that Jay isn't excited to see you. When I'm psyched to see a significant other, especially during the first eight months of a relationship, I make it happen. I keep promises. I put off work to get quality time, not the other way around. He should be making you feel ... like you're something he's looking forward to.
Maybe he is great when he's on a 9 to 5 work schedule, but you said it best -- he's been temping for eight months. You have no greater context. It's his job during the first eight months to show you what he's capable of, and for the most part, he's been a bit of a flake.
I can't tell you whether to stay or go, but I will say that this isn't a tiny detail in the scheme of things. It's a big, fat, annoying one.
Readers? Am I right? Will he ever respect her time if he doesn't respect it now? Anyone dating a late/unreliable person? Discuss.
– Meredith
He doesn't take me out with his friends
Q: Hi Meredith,
I am writing to you in the throes of what I would consider to be a very upsetting fight with my boyfriend.
Boyfriend and I have been together for almost three years now, and overall we have a wonderful relationship. I love him more than I could ever explain, and I believe that he loves me dearly as well. We share responsibilities, emotions, and a wonderful life together. So, as a preface, this is most certainly not a "should we break up?" letter. I am way too lucky to have him in my life. For relevant background, we are both mid-20s, working professionals, and moved in together in 2010.
Our fight started when it occurred to me that he never invites me out with his friends. Over the past few years, I've met and hung out with his friends on multiple occasions and I've always had a lot of fun. They're a good bunch and easy to let loose with. Plus, I love seeing the fun, silly side of my boyfriend. He’s silly with me at home, but rarely when we go out. So seeing him like that with his friends is a treat.
But since we moved in together and started our crazy full-time jobs, he has never once invited me to hang out with him and his friends at all. And I used to go out with them two to three times a week. For a while, I had thought that they were my friends too but now I realize that was a naive assumption. We're both independent, so maybe once or twice a week we go out separately with our respective crew (he doesn't like my friends all that much). So when I brought up my observation that I'm never invited to the party anymore, I was shocked at my boyfriend's uncharacteristically angry response. "I only have one day a week with my friends! Why would you try to take that away from me!" he instantly snaps. He's usually so calm that I’m taken aback.
I'm crushed. I can't believe my observation warrants such an angry emotional response. It's heartbreaking to me that the thought of me hanging out with him and his friends is so offensive. His other friends' girlfriends go out with him all the time and I'm never invited. I explained that I would never encroach on that time every week, but once in a blue moon it would make me feel nice if I was included. We ended up fighting the whole night about it and never getting to a place that made me feel okay. He invalidated my feelings a lot and told me I was being ridiculous, which is really hurtful and again, not like him.
I feel shattered. I think this says a lot about how he sees me. Sucker-of-fun, enemy-of-happiness. And the kind of girl who would invite herself out with him every week regardless of how he feels. That’s not who I am; our independence is and always has been important to me.
Meredith, how do I make him understand that I just want to celebrate that part of his life with him -- occasionally? Why am I being shut out? Was it so wrong of me to bring this up? How do I get over this awful feeling? I feel like I'm the last kid who gets picked in dodgeball. The nerd who never gets invited to the party.
– Rejected and Dejected, Needham
A: You weren't wrong to bring this up, RAD, and you have every right to feel left out. In fact, I feel left out on your behalf.
Your boyfriend is in the wrong here. You're not looking to be inseparable. You just want to hang out in a group sometimes.
That said, I don't think your boyfriend is being malicious. One of the things that no one ever tells you about cohabitation is that it takes a long time to adjust. My guess is that your boyfriend is still figuring out how to balance his social life and work now that he lives with you. With you there all of the time, how is he supposed to maintain his independence? How is he supposed to find time to be alone? It takes more than a year to figure it out.
My advice: let him cool off from the fight. When he does, he'll admit that your once-in-a-blue-moon request is a fair one -- and a fun one. Then let him know that if he needs more space in this living arrangement, he should take it. Maybe if he has more alone time during the week, he'll be more likely to want you around when he's out with his friends.
It'll help to let him know that he's not crazy or insensitive for experiencing some not-always-positive side effects from the move-in. Just tell him that you're experiencing them, too. You're trying to figure out your new roles. That's a big thing.
Readers? Is this about him adjusting to the living situation? Should she be offended that he hasn't invited her out with his friends? What should be the compromise here? Is there a bigger problem? Discuss.
– Meredith
She says we can't date
Q: Dear Meredith,
I'm a late 30s, never-been-married guy. Over the last decade-plus, I have become extremely close with someone we'll call Sally. When Sally and I first met, I told her on more than one occasion that I had an interest in dating her, only to be shot down.
At a holiday party this past season, we got drunk and ended up going home together. This was not something I ever envisioned happening between us, and I did not know how to feel about it. And we never ended up speaking about it.
A few weeks ago we ended up kissing again, and that was followed by a long conversation about the entire thing. She admitted that she is completely attracted to me, and also that she loves kissing me. However, since our lives have become so intertwined, she insists that we can never date because she is afraid. She will not, however, tell me what she is afraid of. She told me she knows that it will hurt at times, for both of us.
I'm smitten ... no, I'm in love with her -- and knowing us as well as I do, I am positive that we can make ANYTHING work, as long as we communicate about it and remain 100% honest with one another.
How do I go about convincing her that we can overcome anything while not seeming as if I am harping on this issue? Or should I just move on and take the hurt if/when it comes?
– Dazed and Confused for So Long It's Not True
A: I'm sorry, DACFSLINT. Sally is a confusing lady.
My advice is to set boundaries. Big ones. I assume that Sally is afraid of making this relationship complicated, but it already is. There's no going back. She can't have you as a friend.
And that's what you have to tell her, that you can't walk around pretending that you're happy with the way things are. If she's serious about being friends and nothing more, all you can do is minimize your contact with her to get over her.
My hope is that when you set these boundaries she'll either a) realize that she's got nothing to lose and commence making out with you or b) disclose whatever it is that's holding her back, assuming that it's something that goes beyond the normal fear of loss.
You want to keep things 100 percent honest. Sadly, that means dating her or separating yourself from this situation until you can look at her without being overcome by longing.
You're not harping if you bring it up again. Just be honest about what you'll have to do for yourself if she can't reciprocate your feelings. You can't let this go on for another decade.
Readers? What's up with Sally (who is not our Sally)? Is there hope here? Is his age relevant to what he should put up with? What specific boundaries should he set? Discuss.
– Meredith
I like my friend's dad
Q: Dear Meredith,
I'm a longtime lurker. And since I can't turn to my friends for advice, I thought I'd turn to yours. A few months ago, my best friend from childhood, "Stacey," got married. I was her maid of honor. Stacey's parents have been separated since we graduated high school but just haven't divorced yet (financial reasons). They live apart but in the same town. Anyway, at the wedding, I had more than a few drinks (after all, it was open bar and my job as MOH was to lead the fun). Stacey's dad, "Bob," and I started talking. A lot. When we were teens, Stacey's friends and I used to joke that her dad was hot. Well, wow. He actually is. There was a connection. Needless to say, it was awkward around Stacey's mom since she used to make us cookies all the time and here I am flirting with her almost ex-husband. He's my best friend's dad. It's weird, I know. But hey, at least I didn't throw a shoe! Anyway, after the wedding, Bob and I started dating. We didn't tell anyone. He makes me laugh, has great taste in wine, and well, let's just say that there's some benefits to dating an older, more experienced man.
I've wanted to tell Stacey but there really is no easy way to say it. Her parents are separated and are going to divorce, but it still really bothers her. Bob wants to tell her,
but I've been taking an "I'll deal with it tomorrow" approach. But here's the real problem. Bob has Red Sox season tickets. He has four seats for Opening Day. He wants to invite Stacey and her husband. And me. Can we say awkward? I know I need to tell Stacey and I certainly don't want a scene at Fenway. (I mean, it's the Yankees!). How do I tell her? I don't want to ruin anything. I am enjoying my time with Bob. I like him and I want to keep seeing him. I also don't want to lose my best friend. Do I just show up at the game with Bob and hope she doesn't flip out? Do I talk to her ahead of time? Does Bob tell her?
– I'm In Love With Stacey's Dad
A: You are not allowed to go to this game, IILWSD. You are certainly not allowed to surprise Stacey by showing up at Fenway Park on the arm of her dad. I mean, even if Stacey knew about your relationship with Bob and was cool with it, she might not be ready for a double date. Please put yourself in her shoes.
Before you sit down and tell Stacey that you're in line to be her stepmom, please think about whether this whole Bob thing is worth it. Can you really see yourself with him in five or ten years? You don't have to know for sure whether you want to be the next Mrs. Bob, but you do have to be honest with yourself if this is just a fun fling. Because if it is, you must end it -- for the sake of everyone's sanity.
But if Bob is worth the risk and you do want to stay with him, tell Stacey as soon as you can. Explain to her that you understand how weird this is and that you're confused and looking for guidance. Ask her what she needs you to do to make this work.
And again, whatever you do, don't spring this on her at a game. Opening Day against the Yankees is stressful enough on its own.
Readers? Is she going to lose Stacey? What are your thoughts about Bob? Could you deal with one of your peers dating one of your parents? Discuss.
– Meredith
We lived with his parents
Here are those insults and compliments. And here's today's letter:
Q: Hi Meredith,
I met my ex seven years ago when we were still in college. He thought I was a total snob, and I thought he was completely weird. Fast forward to a few years ago. I found him on Facebook through a mutual friend and we immediately started talking every day. Problem was, he was in Massachusetts and I was living a few states away. We talked for a few months before he drove up to surprise me. I was way less snobby, and his weirdness was adorable. We dated long distance like that for eight months until I lost my job and we decided I should move down to MA. At the time he was living with his parents, who welcomed me with open arms and said we could stay as long as we needed to until we found an apartment of our own.
At first, everything was great with us. We were best friends, completely in love. But months went by and he was still dragging his feet to get a place. We were cramped in our little room in his parents' house, and as welcoming as they were, it never really felt like my home and I was getting restless. I found some really cute places within our price range, but he always found some kind of excuse (like "the street leading up to the apartment is too steep" ... seriously?) not to move.
We had been living with his parents for about two years when things just fell apart. I was so resentful of him not understanding my need for my own space and he was getting tired of hearing me nag him about it. I moved in with a friend while I started looking for an apartment and he stayed with his parents.
At first, we didn't talk because it was too hard. But then we saw each other a few times and even spent New Year's Eve with friends. I was really hopeful that things were working out.
When I found my own apartment, he helped me move in. But that's when the switch flipped. He stopped calling and stopping by. And when I did see him, there was no warmth. I quickly found out that he was seeing someone. I felt so betrayed but I finally understood that we were really over. Unfortunately, I did say some pretty catty things in the heat of the finding out about her (I know it was none of my business, I was just upset). I just felt like my life was falling apart. I was alone in this town I didn't know, and I wanted so badly to save us, but I pushed him even further away.
I met someone, a friend of a friend, who took me out a few times. My ex heard about it -- and don't you know that I got a text from my ex saying some hurtful things. It was obviously out of jealousy and I know he didn't mean it but I was still upset. He was dating other girls. Who does he think he is to call me out for moving on too? I eventually changed my number to eliminate the drama.
Well, a few months have gone by now and the dust has settled. I'm not seeing anyone and I'm working 70 hours a week to compensate for the loneliness. Lately, he's been calling my friends to see how I'm doing and emailing my mom and siblings "just to say hi." Does that mean he's just being nice, or maybe that he misses me?
Can relationships bounce back from a bad break like this? Do you think we could ever "start over" and make it work?
– Broken But Can't Let Go, Boston
A: You can't start over -- there's really no such thing -- but you might be able to forgive each other, BBCLG. You can certainly call him, give him your new phone number, and make peace.
But please, don't expect anything more than that. This breakup wasn't about dating other people or mean texts. It was about him refusing to move out of his parents' house. It was about him being a coward while you put up with an uncomfortable living situation for two years.
My advice is to call him and ask him why he's checking in with your family. Forgive him and let him forgive you. But leave it at that. Unless he shows up at your door begging for your return and holding keys to his own place, there's really nothing to talk about.
You have every reason to be confused, lonely, sad, and a bit hopeful. But don't forget your needs just because you miss him. I'm sure he misses you, too. But that's not that point. Right?
Readers? Should she give him her new number? Is there hope here? Should she forgive the whole "we lived with your parents for two years" thing? Was his behavior acceptable? Help.
– Meredith
Scared to see his therapist
I will post all of the hilarious compliments/insults from yesterday's contest tomorrow (without names, of course). And thanks to all who entered -- and to those who came to the play. It was a very fun night.
And ... book reviews will be posted next week.
Today is chat day.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I have been in a solid, loving relationship for the past 7 months. We fell for each other hard and fast.
Here's the tricky part. He was depressed for much of his younger years and has found solace in going to therapy. As our relationship has gotten more and more serious, he is urging me to attend these sessions with him.
My question is this: Should I be worried that a relationship should need therapy after such a short time or should I be thankful that my boyfriend values our relationship and wants me to be a part of this area of his life? Thanks for the advice!
– Therapy Scares the Bejesus Out of Me, Boston
A: Don't be scared, TSTBOOM. He doesn't want to bring you to therapy because he thinks that you're a mess as a couple. He's bringing you because therapy is a big part of his life and because he wants you do understand what's going on in his noggin.
Go at least once if it's important to him. It'll either be OK -- maybe even enlightening and helpful -- or it'll reveal something bad that you needed to know anyway. You don't have to commit to more than one session. You can ask the therapist once you get there whether this is something that you need to be a part of on a regular basis. My guess is that your boyfriend just wants to put your relationship through his system of checks and balances. Nice that he wants you to be a part of something that makes his life better. Right? No need to freak out until he's given you reason to. But once you agree to go, set boundaries.
Readers? Would you go to therapy with someone after seven months if there weren't any relationship problems? Why do you think he wants the LW there? Should the LW be afraid? What boundaries should the LW set? Discuss.
– Meredith
Dating while dry
As I mentioned yesterday, I'm doing a talkback after tonight's performance of "Reasons to Be Pretty" at the BCA. I have some tickets I'd like to give away, so here's the contest: Because the play is about a woman who finds out that her boyfriend has described her appearance as "regular," as in average, I want you to email me (meregoldstein at gmail dot com) the best/worst physical compliment/insult you've ever received from a partner. My favorite entries will get tickets to tonight's show, which starts at 7:30. Entries are due by 1 p.m. I'll notify winners by 2. Sound good? It's a great play and it'll be a very fun night out with good, post-show Love Letters talk.
(For the record, the worst thing I've ever been told about my appearance was: "I'm sure there are a lot of guys out there who like your body type." Yikes.)
Q: Hi Meredith,
This past year I was diagnosed with epilepsy and my days of enjoying cocktails at the bars of Back Bay are, much to my 27-year-old chagrin, currently shelved alongside my dating books. One of those very books on that shelf says that dating at this age without adult beverages is virtually impossible, and I can assure you that is a fact. I recently went on a first date and couldn't have my patented first date glass (or 3) of wine.
The date went surprisingly well and at 2 a.m. it was time to go home. Thank god, because Cute Boy was clearly digging this Back Bay blonde and I wanted to ride the wave to date number two. Here's where it got awkward. Ugh. He made a comment about me not drinking. "So I need to ask you, are you always dry?" The question was fine. I mean, it is weird when people don't drink and you don't know why. But here's the thing -- we hadn't met up on our date until midnight (I was tied up at work before then), so really, for all he knew I could have been taking shots until I met up with him and simply switched to water, right?
Here is my problem, Meredith. It made me feel insecure because I wasn't about to go into some soliloquy (even though he had quoted Shakespeare earlier in the night -- Pro #43) about why I don't drink.
After he made the comment about me being dry, it kind of ruined the moment. He ended up saying, "Maybe I'll see you around Back Bay this weekend." (Awesome, Cute Boy. See you at Shaws. I'll be in the H20 aisle.) Apparently I am cursed to a life of dating guys who don't drink -- or really, really drunk guys at the Beacon Hill Pub who are so blacked out they don't notice I'm drinking water. And I don't want to "fake drink" like some friends have suggested because I'm not a liar and I think that is simply ridiculous.
Funny thing is, Mere, I was drinking club soda, which looks same as the vodka-soda I normally drink, but I never get my drinks with a lime because Matt Lauer, the love of my life, says it's the germiest thing in the bar.
So what should I do Meredith? Stalk AA Meetings? Fake Drink?
– Dry Blonde in Back Bay
A: There are ways to answer the booze question without getting into specifics, DBIBB. You can try, "I'm on meds that don't mesh well with booze." Or, "I'm a vodka-tonic girl, but only on special occasions." There's also the good old, "I can't drink much because of a health condition. But I make a fantastic designated driver."
You don't have to get into the whole epilepsy thing, but you do have to come up with some sort of answer. And as long as you're easygoing about that answer, it'll be OK.
The right guys aren't going to freak out about your dryness, especially if you seem comfortable with it. And I'm pretty sure that Matt Lauer would agree with me when I say that alcohol isn't a necessary part the courting process. It helps -- I'm not going to lie about that -- but it's possible to woo without booze. Dry wooing is the ultimate woo. And you, my friend, are clever enough to make it happen.
This is more about you becoming comfortable with your illness. It takes time to figure out how to deal with a chronic health problem as a tiny part of your identity. Once you can talk about it without it meaning too much, explaining it (and your lack of drinking on dates) will be a breeze. It just takes practice.
Readers? Does she have to be honest about why she doesn't drink on dates? What's the best way to explain it? Is fake drinking a real option? Is alcohol necessary on first dates? Is this really about learning how to cope with an illness? Discuss.
– Meredith
Should I tell my friend she's wrong
Forgot to mention yesterday that there were two updates in Wednesday's chat. If you fish through it, you'll find updates from Drunk With Love and Monday's March Madness letter writer.
And, if you're a theater person (or a Love Letters person), come to Tuesday's performance of this. I'll be doing a "talkback" after the performance. It will be fun, and the play is right up our alley.
Q: Dear Meredith and LL community,
I am a major lurker on the LL scene and I truly think that this is a great place to come for advice. Like most others, I never thought I would be writing in, mostly because after a few failed relationships I decided it was time to focus on me rather than on boys. My reason for reaching out is that I'm worried my best friend is making a terrible mistake and I don't know how to stop it/if it's really my place.
My friend "Kate" has constantly been in relationships since she was a teenager. She's a naturally flirty person and attracts a lot of guys, so while I've never seen her as a liner-upper, I've also never known her to be single for more than a month or two. We used to joke about this and laugh it off as it didn't seem like a really big issue.
She's now in her mid-20s and in a new relationship. He's in the military which means he's deployed for six months at a time and moves around, so they've only ever spent about a month actually together. He also has kids and is going through a custody battle. I tried not to judge these parts of his life (she's a lot more spontaneous than I am so I guess she can handle these sorts of things). What got to me is that she's now rearranging her life and goals to be with him and I think it's wrong.
Kate's always had dreams of getting more degrees and has worked her butt off to get all the necessary internships in place to do so. She told me that her next internship was going to be in the state where the guy in question was going to be stationed for the next few years. When I asked her about this, she promised that she wasn't making the decision for him and that it was just a lucky coincidence. Now it turns out that he's going to be in a different state and she's decided to follow him. She also tells me they are hoping to get married so he can help her pay for her schooling.
I've told her in a very non-confrontational way that I feel like she's losing herself in her relationship and that I’m worried she's giving up on her goals for the wrong reasons. I'd like to believe in love at first sight/finding your soul mate but, being a more cautious person, I think it's important not to make major life decisions for a guy (especially early on) or you wake up down the line with a lot of regret.
My question is: Am I imposing my own fears/worries on the situation? Should I just go with the flow and see how things turn out? Or should I tell her about my concerns in a more forceful way, knowing that it might do nothing more than distance her from me?
– What Would Meredith Do?, Somerville
A: What would I do, WWMD? Well, I'd want to tell Kate not to move. I'd want to tell her that she's taking a huge risk and ruining her future. But I wouldn't say those things. I'd ask her if she has any concerns about the move so that she could talk about them on her own terms. Then I'd tell her that I'm here for her, no matter what. It wouldn't be easy, but I've learned that that's what friends are for. They're supporters, not advisers (says the advice columnist).
You don't know what's best for Kate. The two of you designed life plans for yourselves when you were young. Not surprisingly, one of you is veering off track. Maybe Kate doesn't want grad school as much as she used to. Maybe she wants it, but not as much as she wants to be with this specific partner. Really, moving and settling down with a guy she adores might turn out to be an awesome decision. Who knows?
You're allowed to be concerned, but your level of stress about this does suggest that you're projecting. You're probably afraid to lose her, which is understandable. You're also probably afraid that Kate's decision says something about your own place in life. I'm not saying you're secretly jealous of Kate, but I do think it can be difficult to watch a close friend jump on a path that opposes your own. In your 20s, other people's decisions mean too much.
This is how life goes. At some point, somebody puts off work to have a kid, gets divorced and goes back to school, or winds up on a reality show. Somebody was bound to make a spontaneous decision. Just keep asking nonjudgmental questions and tell her to be safe. That's all you can/should do. And remember this: You're on your own right track. Kate being right doesn't mean you're wrong.
Readers? Would you tell Kate what you think? Is the LW's angst more about her own place in life? What would be the point in telling Kate? Thoughts? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm sick of dating
Q: Dear Meredith:
I am a huge fan of Love Letters and your commenters! Here's my question in a nutshell: I've got dating fatigue. What should I do about it?
In college, I dated somebody for a long time. We could have moved in together, maybe even married one day, but we weren't right for one another. I'm over it, and it seems like a distant memory. Since then, I've dated people on and off, done the online scene, had more than a few six-month relationships, nothing special. Guilty admission: I enjoy OKCupid more for the ability to judge random people than for the potential to go on a date and meet somebody. Strangely, I feel emotionally healthy. I'm also in a good place having just landed a wonderful job that is challenging, helpful to society, and meets my basic financial needs. I'd very much like a real relationship at this point, but this isn't a "Why won't anybody date me?" sort of thing -- and I'm OK being on my own. Besides, I've found I'm able to meet people pretty easily. It's not that.
I've got a serious inertia problem. On the one hand I'd really like to be in a relationship, and I'm ready to have the fun and do the "work" of a relationship. But it just takes too much effort to get to that point. For one, dating is expensive, even doing it cheaply. Two, three, four 1st-5th dates add up, and that'll put a strain on a budget -- even when you split things, and I'm the sort of fellow who at least offers to pay. Then there's the opportunity cost. I have a fairly big network of friends -- going on an OK date that's not going to go anywhere is not as fun as seeing friends I know I like and haven't seen in far too long.
But mostly, I have the same date over and over again. Here's how it goes, more or less:
[Grabbing drinks, grabbing dinner, catching a movie, going to Quirky Artsy Thing, or doing Quirky Sport/Game Thing.] This weather is crazy! It's Snowmageddon! Compliment. Compliment. What do you do? Descriptions of what you are both passionate about and your shared values. Discussion relative to various tv shows, music, movies, or other pop/sub-pop phenomenon. Recall childhood cartoons/memory. Siblings? Hey, do you know so-and-so? You do. What a coincidence! You went to that exotic place that one time and how it's different and interesting. You both want to travel more. News Event. Brief political or religious discussion (look how risky you both are to bring that up!) That local thing that just happened. That book you read. That movie you just saw together. I've had a nice time. Yeah, me too!
As I write this, I am well aware that I sound like a huge drag, and I'm sure that's just what the commenters will say. Maybe that's it. Maybe I'm just bored. Maybe I'm elitist or have too high standards or am just plain cynical or something. I don't think I am any of those things and I hope I'm not. So, (at last) here's my question: I get that there aren't any shortcuts on the road of life, but maybe there are ways to make the journey a little more scenic? What do people do to enjoy the process of dating before you find somebody who is going to be a good partner in a relationship?
– Lethargic in Somerville
A: I get it, LIS. Dating can be annoying, especially when you've been doing it for a while.
And that's why I'm going to suggest that you stop dating. Hang out with people as friends. Stop the OKCupid thing and spend time with people in groups. Get to know people naturally so that by the time you're on a real date with them, you know they're worth your time (and money). Yes, organic meet-ups are more difficult to come by as a grown-up, but you're telling us that you actually do meet people in your everyday life. Capitalize on that. Invite six people over to your apartment to watch TV. If you wind up spending more time with one of those six people, that's great.
Your complaints are fair, by the way. Dating is expensive and can be seriously repetitive. (Snowmageddon, indeed.) And that's why you can only do it if you're psyched about it. Taking a break will give you some clarity to see beyond the small talk. Right now, your dating glasses are all foggy.
Readers? Is the LW a drag or is he just sick of a difficult process? Should he stop dating? Should he be dating online? If he had a date with the right person, would he be able to see beyond the small talk? Tips for coping with dating fatigue? Help.
– Meredith
Thinking about a guy I didn't like that much
Q: Hi Meredith,
I've recently found myself in an unusual situation, by my standards. About five months ago, I got out of a very messy relationship that had been on and off for a couple of years. Usually the "off" periods would be punctuated by the realization that my boyfriend had either been cheating on me, or lying to me about something important. Our breakups would last anywhere from two weeks to two months. I've since gotten over this relationship, and I'm actually feeling a lot stronger and healthier as a person than I have in a very, very long time.
But, over the past week or so, I've found myself thinking about a different guy that I dated during one of my off periods with my ex-boyfriend. The relationship with the guy took place over a year ago and only lasted about a month. While there had been a spark when he and I first met, when we tried to pursue something, the chemistry just didn't ignite. I can't say why I've been thinking about him, but I feel that there must be some connection between the breakup with my long-term boyfriend and my sudden renewed interest in the other guy. Can you explain what the connection might be, or why you think I would be suddenly thinking of the short-term boyfriend from last year?
– Blue Forgetmenot, California
A: You're thinking about him because he had potential – potential that you didn't see because you were blinded by your ex. Now that the blinders are off, BF, you're wondering about missed opportunities.
Contact the guy. Tell him that you weren't emotionally present last year because you were still tied up with someone else. Tell him that you'd like to have dinner (assuming he's single) to see how you feel about each other.
He might say no – and chances are, he's dating someone else. But it's worth a try.
The explanation is simple. Once we're really over an ex, we have major FOMO about all the people we ignored along the way. This guy is one of those people. You dated him, but not really.
Readers? Is the LW thinking about the guy because there was real potential? Or is the LW just lonely and recycling? If you were the guy, would you want to hear from the LW? Help somebody in California.
– Meredith
Battling my inner Charlie Sheen
Q: I recently began dating a smart and gorgeous girl who treats me exceptionally well. I like to think of her as the one that came along and rescued me from a Charlie-Sheen-like lifestyle that consisted of hard partying with relationships not lasting more than a night. (Disclaimer: By "Charlie-sheen-like" I mean general heavy partying without the worry of consequences the next day, NOT the parts about doing drugs, sleeping with multiple porn stars, and having abusive relationships.)
When we first started dating a few months back, I found her to be somewhat clingy. She required my attention almost more often than I could handle (even though I've got tiger blood and Adonis DNA). She always initiated the first step in moving ahead with our relationship, such as proclaiming to others that I was her boyfriend, making sure I met and received good grades from her girlfriends, and telling her family how awesome I was. This was a bit smothering and uncomfortable to me at first, but I stuck it out and actually started enjoying her attention. I also found myself opening up quite a bit, something I've always refused to do with anybody besides my closest friends. She's now a person I can have an amazing time with, without the need for alcohol and partying.
The problem that haunts me is this: Charlie Sheen still lurks inside me. I feel the need to sleep with other women, and more specifically, the need to do 100% of what I want to do without repercussions from anybody else in my life. I know inside that most likely I will want to start a family someday and certainly would leave Charlie behind for that, especially for a girl like this. The problem is, I don't know if he will ever leave me, at least anytime soon. Have my many years of partying as a twenty-something-making-a-lot-of-money permanently gotten the best of me and will Charlie continue to haunt me into being a single man for the rest of my life?
– Charlie Sheen's Distant Cousin, Somerville
A: Are there really only two options here, CSDC? Drunken one-night stands or a serious commitment? I'm going to suggest a happy medium -- a grown-up relationship that you take one day at a time. That's all you're capable of right now.
No matter what happens with this woman, you can't pretend that you're locking the Charlie Sheen part of you away like a criminal. You can't think of him as this little devil who's eventually going to bust out of his cage and take over. You are a collection of personality traits, impulses, habits, wants, needs, etc. The Charlie Sheen part of you is as important as the part of you that wants to be dating someone you love. You just have to figure out which part of you is screaming the loudest.
If you decide that your Charlie Sheen desires are more important than your relationship with this woman, it doesn't mean that you're a lost cause. It just means that you're not quite sick of that lifestyle -- or that you're not interested in spending your life with this specific person. And that's OK.
Really, there's some Charlie Sheen in all of us. We can't deny it. We just have to make responsible, honest decisions and do our best to treat people well while we're "winning."
Readers? How can the LW tame the inner Charlie Sheen? Is this relationship the problem? Is Charlie simply the LW's conscience? What's going on here? Discuss.
– Meredith
Did I ruin it with March Madness?
This person was in last week's chat. I asked for a real letter, so here it is:
Q:Hi Meredith,
I just started dating someone a few weeks ago, so we are in the very early stages. So far, things are going well; we have a lot to talk about, similar interests, and good chemistry. It all seems very promising. In the course of having a conversation about getting together this week, we realized that we both had plans with friends in the early part of the week. Normally I would suggest getting together later during the week or over the weekend. Except the later part of this week begins the most glorious time of the year, for me: March Madness. I love college basketball and I look forward to the tournament every year. I fill out unrealistic brackets that have my undergrad college vanquishing Duke by 50 points, I watch all the games, yell, jump up and down, and occasionally throw things (soft things) at the TV.
In the process of getting to know each other, it became pretty clear to me that the guy I am dating is not at all into college basketball. When, briefly, it looked like my graduate school alma mater might be getting a berth in the tournament, I was trying to explain how excited I was, and he all but patted me on the head while rolling his eyes. So when we were discussing making plans to get together, I said, "I want you to know that I want to hang out with you. I just don't know when I can do that in the next couple of weeks. You would be welcome to watch basketball with me but I know you're not into it and I get the sense that you don't find it terribly interesting. It's not for everyone, and maybe it seems silly, but I love it and it makes me happy." His response was along the lines of "I don't think you're silly, but you're right that I don't share your love of watching basketball on TV and I'm not sure that watching a game with you would be fulfilling my desire to spend time with you. Why don't you check in with me when you come up for air?" Since then, our conversations have been tense and I get the sense that he feels like I should want to see him more than I want to watch a basketball game.
Is there a better way I could have handled the situation? Should I want to see him more than I want to watch a basketball game? Or should I confine my future dating to the NCAA personals (if only such a thing existed)?
– Love and Basketball
A: You could have handled the situation better by making time, LAB. Dates can be brief, and you have to eat, right? Instead of giving him a speech about how unavailable you planned to be, you could have asked him for a quick dinner during a less important game (I know, I know, they're all important). You could have DVR'd the start of a game and watched it a few hours late. You could have asked him to come over on Saturday at the end of a game, promising a late-night viewing of a movie of his choice.
Don't get me wrong -- I like your speech because it was clear and honest. But when you start dating someone you don't know very well, you're supposed to capitalize on the excitement of it all. If your potential significant other tells you that he/she would rather watch games for weeks than see you, it can be ... deflating. The beginning of a relationship requires momentum. You killed it, a bit.
My advice is to a) think about why you didn't want to squeeze him in and b) ask him to have dinner with you next week, making it clear that you'll make this up to him. If he doesn't bite, you can start looking for someone who wants to watch this stuff with you.
Readers? Should the guy have been more empathetic about the LW's need to watch games? Should the LW have been so honest about how it would be during March Madness? Should the LW have made time for a date? Discuss.
– Meredith
Do we have to close the distance gap?
Q:Hi Meredith and loyal readers,
I have a problem that is breaking my heart. First some background. My boyfriend and I have been together for almost 4 years. We met in college, where we dated for a year and a half. Our relationship has been long distance since we graduated.
He is currently coaching lacrosse at a school that's more than six hours away. We have talked often about him moving here, and he had promised that this past year would be our last apart, and he would be in Boston by September. Now here we are in the present, and he still doesn't have a job in Boston, although he has been trying. He said at one time that he would consider just dropping everything and moving here regardless, but now that reality has set in he is not sure he wants to give up a job he loves. While before he thought he could move here and do any job, he has since realized he wants to continue coaching college lacrosse. He would ultimately love to get a coaching job in New England, but that might not be a possibility. I would reconsider relocating to somewhere else in New England in a year or so, but where he lives now is too far away and too far into the boonies for me to even consider going to.
We love each other very much, and overall our relationship has been great. We have discussed marriage, and do hope to get married some day. Although we've hit rough patches (like everyone does), we have always worked through them with open communication. The thing is, this long distance is starting to wear on us, and I don't know how much longer we can do it. I had thought that I couldn't do it past this year, but now that it looks like he can't get a job here, I can't imagine actually breaking up. Am I holding on to something when there is no real end in sight to this long-distance relationship? Is three years too long to be apart? Is our hope to one day to be together in the same area not enough?
– Long Distance Lax Lover
A: The trick with long-distance relationships is to get to the same place before the whole thing starts wearing on you -- before you ruin what you have. You're teetering on the edge, LDLL, which means it's time for one of you to move.
I see two options: 1. You wait a year and then he moves, with or without a job. 2. You move. You resent him for living in the boonies. You deal with it because you want to marry this person. You take lots of trips to Boston to visit friends.
No matter what, if breaking up isn't an option, you must set an end date for the distance. Because I really don't think that the hope of a future in the same city is enough. If it's wearing on you now, think about how it will feel six months from now, especially without a reunion in sight.
And if you really want me to take a side regarding who should move, my gut tells me it's you (sorry). Coaching jobs are few and far between, and if he's really going to devote himself to college lacrosse as a career, you might find yourself moving to weird college towns every few years. You should see if that's something you're willing to do.
Readers? Am I wrong to say the LW should move? Am I wrong to say that an end date for distance is necessary? How long can they do this? Do they know their relationship well enough to make the sacrifice? Should the LW move because his career is more complicated? What does this say about their potential for a happy marriage? Discuss.
– Meredith
Are women doomed?
It's a big picture question. Happy St. Patrick's Day.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I am your typical 20something post college grad living in the city. I have had my share of hilarious to horrible dating stories and am currently seeing a really great guy who is very different from a lot of men I have met my age. Specifically, he is well-educated, career-driven, and knows how to be chivalrous and treat me with respect.
So you may wonder, why am I writing? I want to hear your input on a disturbing trend that has recently been in the news. Over the past several months I have read countless articles on the "male crisis" that is currently happening to 20something guys. Men today are less likely to graduate high school, enroll in college, and pursue employment post graduation. They are more likely to be living at home and are less interested in reaching "traditional" adult landmarks such as settling down, getting married, and having children.
As a result, there are more women successfully educated and employed than ever before! Although this is a great achievement in gender equality, it is creating a major disadvantage for single women looking to pursue monogamous heterosexual relationships. With successful, well-rounded, educated men becoming an increasingly rare commodity, they now hold the power in the dating world. This leads many women to compromise their standards a great deal just to, at best, secure a male partner who will most likely not meet them intellectually, professionally, and emotionally.
I have been through this cycle personally and watch many of my friends continue to be let down or treated so poorly all in the name of young men thinking they can do better without having to try very hard at all. As a relationship expert, what is your advice for women of our generation who are wishing to find someone to date but do not wish to buy into the male sexual power-plays that currently dominate the dating world?
Your opinion is greatly valued!
– All The Single Ladies, Boston
A: Even if these studies and stories accurately represent what's going on in the world, I'm not convinced that women are at any more of a disadvantage than they used to be. Keep in mind that before this trend of female empowerment, single women had to partner up to ensure that they were supported financially -- or because they believed they had to find a spouse before they lost their market value at 30.
I'm not sure I can make a generalization about dating that applies to an entire twentysomething gender without paying attention to other factors like race, geography, income, and education, but I will say this: Women have always had a tough time finding good men. That's why there are sitcoms and punch-lines about it.
Still, this world we live in -- the one that supposedly emasculates heterosexual men until they're unwilling to grow up -- is preferable (at least to me) than the one that deems me a spinster at 28 or makes it difficult for me to have a job and live by myself.
And while I do know many smart, attractive, mature women in their 20s who tell me they can't find a guy worthy of their attention, I also know (in my immediate circle) of a 36-year-old woman happily dating a 26-year-old man who's sometimes more mature than she is, two thirtysomethings who have been together for almost a decade, and a 32-year-old woman who started dating someone nice after buying her own condo and installing sweet kitchen tile herself. And then there's yours truly, a 33-year-old unmarried advice columnist/former women's studies student who gets to be validated every day by thousands of readers, many of whom are ridiculously smart, cute, and witty men in their 20s.
I think my point is (and sorry for the ramble), we're all supposed to be looking for partners who respect us and share some of our life goals. And I'm not sure that as a woman that's any more or less difficult than it used to be. Finding a good match is a challenge for anyone, male or female, gay or straight, 20s or 30s, independent or codependent, emasculated or … masculated (you know what I mean). I truly believe that we're all in the same boat.
I hope that's reassuring. Sort of.
Readers? Do you buy into these stories about men? Is this a twenty-something issue? Is it an issue at all? Am I being too optimistic? Is the LW right about men having power because of these statistics? Thoughts? Discuss.
– Meredith
Fantasizing about what could have been
Q: Hi Meredith,
Three years ago I met a guy through an internship. Nothing really sparked until after the job was over. We started exchanging e-mails and texting a lot, all leading up to a romantic kiss when he came back to town for a few days for work. By then he was living and working out of state. I visited him a few times and he came to visit me. No solid relationship was ever established but he was the only one on my mind.
I was very emotionally invested. He was quiet, kept to himself, and never really shared his feelings. He finally revealed his feelings two years in and then a month later decided he needed "space" because the distance was just too much for him. Needless to say, I was heartbroken.
I regrouped and met a man who has been nothing but a prince to me. The problem is that this other guy popped back up through e-mail to say that while he understands that I am happy and in a stable relationship, he does wish he had done things differently and still cares about me. He doesn't want to be that thorn in my side and get in the way of my current relationship, but did say that if ever given a chance, he'd be completely different.
I don't plan on leaving my current relationship to take a chance on what could have been, but I can't lie and say that I haven't been thinking back to old times and wondering exactly how things would have turned out. I am in love with my boyfriend -- but how do I get the other guy out of my head?
– Needs to Stop Thinking About What Could Have Been, Waltham
A: It could be great with the internship guy, NTSTAWCHB. It might even be better with the internship guy than it is with your boyfriend. But you know what? It might also be amazing with about 1,000 guys you've never met. That's life. As we get older, we're forced to choose a path -- and that means missing out on an infinite number of others paths. Pretty paths. Exciting paths. We just have to cross our fingers and hope that we're getting something good from the path we're on.
It'd be one thing if you were telling us that you were on the fence about your current relationship, but you've made it clear: "I don't plan on leaving my current relationship to take a chance on what could have been."
So that's that. It's fine if you want to fantasize about the what-ifs, but remind yourself that if you picked the other guy, you'd be having the same fantasies about your current boyfriend.
Go watch "Sliding Doors" or "The Adjustment Bureau" or any of those "What would my alternate path look like?" movies and remember that you can only live one life. The fantasies are part of that life. They're totally normal. Try to balance them with memories of the years of uncertainty you had with the other guy and you should be fine.
Readers? Is she not as sold on her relationship as she says she is? Is it normal to keep thinking about an old flame? Why is this old flame messing with her head? Are these fantasies OK? Should she cut off communication with the other guy? Discuss.
– Meredith
Who wants a single dad?
Q: Hi Meredith,
I got divorced about a year ago and was released from a very unhealthy relationship. I have reached a point where I have a workable relationship with my ex, despite harboring some lingering resentment for her indiscretions and lack of respect of me. I'm getting over it -- but give a guy some time.
I am getting to the point where it is time to start looking outside myself for someone to share my life with. Herein lies the trouble. I am in my mid 30s and have three absolutely wonderful (young) kids. They spend half their time living at our home and half the time at home with their mom. They are doing well with it. I am proud to be a dad and I think I am a good guy. The challenge is that it doesn't seem that the women I'd like to date have interest in dating a successful, funny, single dad. On paper, I think I am the type of guy they are looking for -- until you get to the dad thing. What gives?
– Confounded Single Dad, North of Boston
A: What gives, CSD? You have three kids. That's what you are on paper -- a dude with three kids.
Not everybody wants to walk into that situation. And that's OK. Your dating pool is more limited than it was when you were a freewheeling guy, but in some ways, that will make the whole process easier. The dates will be few and far between, but when you do date someone, they'll have real potential.
My advice is to tell friends that you're ready to date so that they know to keep you in mind when they meet single women. Try to make new friends, maybe when you're doing activities with your kids. Expand your circle as much as possible. Then follow your own advice and "give a guy some time." It may take a while to find women who are open to someone with three kids, but again, that's OK. There's no rush. It has only been a year.
Readers? Is it going to be difficult for him to find someone who's open to three kids? How should he go about meeting a partner? Is he great on paper? Is he seeking out the wrong women? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm apathetic about marriage
Q: Dear Meredith,
I am in a relationship with a great guy, "Rob." We dated for two years, broke up for a while, worked things out, and have been together now for four years. The relationship is so much better than before. We've lived together now for three years, can't imagine being with anyone else, neither wants kids, are on the same page with how to handle finances in the long term, and have even jokingly talked about what to do after retirement. I'm in my late 20s, he's in his early 30s. Our parents have met and get along. It all sounds perfect, right?
It's almost like we're married. But we're not. And it seems that everyone in the world is waiting for it to happen. Except, I don't care about getting married. I'm not fundamentally opposed to marriage, it's just that I don't care. It doesn't mean anything to me. Not to say I don't appreciate it when other people do it, but I just don't see how it would change what Rob and I have. I could roll my eyes and brush off the idea when it was my mom asking about The Big Question, but my friends are hinting at it as well. They think I'll come around eventually. Do they all know something that I don't?
Rob and I have talked about this and his stance is, "I'll marry you if you really want." Mine is, "We're already so committed to each other, so it's not a life changing event." If he asked me to marry him, my response would be "Sure, why not?" Somehow this feels wrong. Shouldn't I be jumping up and down screaming "YES!!!" to that question? Instead, I feel so apathetic. I feel like getting married would just be a play put on to satisfy others.
My question is, what's the big deal? Is there something I'm not understanding? Is the whole world in on a secret and I didn't get the memo?
– Apathetic About Marriage, Boston
A: You're not a wedding/marriage person, AAM. That's OK. In fact, it's more than OK. Despite what you see in movies and on television, your apathy doesn't mean that your relationship isn't what it should be -- or that you missed a memo. You might start jumping up and down and screaming "YES!!!" when Rob tells you he wants to go on a cool vacation ... or buys a great television ... or learns how to make cheesecake from scratch.
You just need to figure out what to say to friends who take the whole "first comes love, then comes marriage" thing seriously. I'd come up with a one-line explanation. Something like, "It's just not a priority; we're too busy making our retirement plans." That won't silence the masses, but it will give you some temporary relief.
It's annoying, but your friends mean well. A lot of people do want to get married and have kids. Those people -- your friends -- want you to share their excitement about a big decision. They also want to make sure that you're getting what you want. And you are, right? Be happy about that and ignore everything else. Don't let other people's expectations give you doubts.
Readers? How should she deal with the questions? Anyone have a good one-liner for her to give to her friends? Should she be more excited about the idea of matrimony? Should she be more excited, in general? Will this problem go away when she and Rob are in their 30s/40s? Should she just get married? Discuss.
– Meredith
It ended and I'm miserable
Happy Friday. It's "validate the dumped" day.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I've read your column for months and have always thought you give great advice. I also thought it was pretty great to read your column and compare it to my wonderful relationship. I realize now how naive I was to believe that my relationship was any more bullet-proof than the next.
I met J. my sophomore year of college and we hit it off immediately. I had just come off a string of miserable flings with guys who treated me horribly and I was delighted to find J., who truly wanted me to be his. I reciprocated those feelings. We started dating after only a month and we fell in love.
This was only my second boyfriend and certainly the first serious one. Eventually, however, we began to fight. Now, after an entire year together, he has abruptly broken my heart. Two days ago, after one particular, alcohol-influenced fight, he decided to end it.
I won't get into specifics -- it's no different than any other relationship. But this was the first guy I loved.
My question, Meredith, is how am I supposed to get over someone I am still so in love with? I realize everyone goes through this at some point in their life (unless they're lucky enough to marry their first sweetheart), but I don't even know how to being to address the pain.
Since we live on a fairly large college campus with thousands of students, I know it's rare that I will run into him. Yet we live only a block away from each other, and every restaurant I pass, every park bench -- they all remind me of places we've been together, and intimate times we shared.
I want to so badly to talk to him, but he was very clear in expressing his need to cut off communication. This is especially hard for me, as he was not only my boyfriend, but my best friend. I shared everything with him.
I can't eat, I can't sleep. I can't even walk outside without tearing up in public. How can I mend my first broken heart, Meredith?
– Lonely in Wisconsin; Wisconsin, by way of Boston
A: This is like asking me how to cure a head cold, LIW. I can tell you to go out and buy chicken soup and sleep a lot, but really, the cold just has to run its course.
But let me address a few points you made in your letter.
You say that people who never experience this kind of pain are "lucky." I’m not so sure. This kind of pain spawns creativity. Life changes. Renewed friendships. Really great mix CDs. It's like making it over Heartbreak Hill during the Boston Marathon. It's awful when you're doing it, but when you're done, you feel pretty great about yourself (I'm just guessing on that one. There's no way I'm ever doing that). Use this time wisely. Feel your feelings and channel them into school, work, television, and friendships -- all of the good stuff.
Also, you mention that you had a string of not-so-nice relationships before J. That doesn't mean he is the only person who will respect you and love you for the right reasons. He's just the first.
All you can do is wait this one out. Take long walks and call a lot of people. I promise you, one day you'll pass those restaurants and benches and they'll have new memories attached to them.
In the meantime, welcome to the world of heartbreak. It's a well-populated world with good music and food. If you think of it that way, it's not the worst place to be.
Readers? Is there anything she can do to speed this along? Thoughts on dealing? Words of wisdom? Discuss.
– Meredith
I can't marry the military
Q: I'm dating a guy who is in the military. I am 25 and he is 27. It was love at first sight. He is amazing. I love him with every single bone in my body, which is why I am having such a hard time grasping the current situation that I am in.
I've been a military girlfriend for 5 years. He has been deployed twice since we've been together. He just returned from his latest deployment. I was so happy to have him come home safe and alive. I am beyond proud of the work that he has done serving our country.
On Valentine's Day he proposed. With the proposal I got news that he was planning on reenlisting. I am having an incredibly hard time with this. I don't know if I can handle the military life forever. The thought of moving from base to base, never having roots and always having the chance of losing the love of my life -- breaks my heart. I honestly have no idea what to do. I want to marry this man, not the military.
So my question is this: How I figure out this situation. Do I talk to him about the way I'm feeling? Or should I just suck it up? Please help!
– In love and war, South End
A: You must talk to him about your needs, ILAW. You can't marry him without finding out whether he's open to a civilian life. Because marrying a military lifer is marrying the military. And you just told us you don't want to do that.
I know it's difficult to look at someone and tell them that you don't support their passion -- especially when that passion involves heroically protecting our country. But you have to come clean. You have to work with him to come up with a plan/timeline that suits you both or you're setting yourself up for failure and heartache. I'm sure military husbands and wives out there will tell you that you can't just "suck it up." It's not like getting a dog instead of a cat or living in New Jersey when you want to live in Massachusetts. It's a way of life -- and it's not for everyone.
Be self-aware and honest. Have a big talk. Sooner than later.
Readers? Is it possible to suck this one up? Is there a way to compromise? Any thoughts from people who are in the military or know military couples? To what extent should she have a say in his plans? Discuss.
– Meredith
My Shakespeare's not in love
Q: Meredith,
I have been seeing someone, let's call him Pete, for almost a year. We met last spring when I was doing an internship in Boston and he was finishing up his first year of grad school. We were very happy for a while, all the wonderful rushes of first love, etc.
And then the summer ended. I had to move a few hours away for the fall to finish up my last semester of school. The place where I had interned offered me a job upon graduation, so Pete and I decided to do long-distance, just for a couple months, since I'd be back so soon.
Halfway through the fall, I started noticing that he was being really distant. The next time I came up to see him, I told him how much it was hurting me when he was distant like that, and he confessed to me that he had been suffering from depression for a while. He told me he was starting therapy and starting going on medication, and things seemed to be getting better. I even suggested -- and we did -- spend Christmas with his family.
The new year started and I moved back to Boston, but things were different. He only wanted to see me when he didn't have anything pressing for school -- so it meant only on weekends or, if during the work week, only me coming over to sleep at night.
I wrote a letter to him, full of "I statements," supportive comments, statements of love, and things that I felt that we, as a couple, need to work on to have a more fulfilling relationship.
He started crying. I mean, hysterically. He told me he loves me, so much, and that he doesn't want to lose me. That he had to break up with his last girlfriend when he moved to go to grad school and that he didn't want to hurt me like that. He said that he just couldn't do it, that he feels like he can't give me what I want, what I need.
Pete is a man who is very introverted, needs a lot of alone time. I thought about it and all the times we were physically together until this year, he was not in school. Except this fall, but we weren't even in the same city. I think he just doesn't know how to deal with stress - and that right now our relationship is the only thing he has that he has control over.
I just don't know how to feel. He wrote me the sweetest card for Valentine's Day, it was a freaking sonnet! Like, Shakespearean sonnet! How does someone write their girlfriend a romantic, beautiful sonnet on Monday and rip their heart out on Thursday?!
Last week, it had been two weeks since I heard from him. So I texted him, asking if he was OK, and he said that he misses me, misses us, and that he's sorry. I texted back, telling him I was sorry too, but above all else I want him to be happy, and if that means that we're not together then so be it. It'll hurt for a while, but so be it. He didn't respond that night but texted me yesterday that he’s incapable of a serious relationship right now.
I haven't responded yet. I don't know if I even should -- and what to say if I did. I'm not even sure I'd want to be in a relationship with him again. But part of me wishes we could just go back to the way things were between us and pretend that this whole incident never happened.
– Dealing with a Stressed, Depressed Shakespeare, Boston
A: The thing about Shakespeare is that he was super good at writing plays and whatnot, but he was a pain to date. At least that's what I learned from "Shakespeare in Love."
You're telling me that part of you want things to go back to the way they were. But things weren't great for very long. You were having problems months and months ago. And even when things got better, you were still a long-distance girlfriend. You put it best -- when he's in school, he's just not very good at being good to someone else.
And that's your answer. He can write you a sonnet on Monday and break your heart on Thursday because he's selfish and bad at multi-tasking. Yes, he's depressed, but he's not asking you for your support. He's not asking you to stick around.
It's time to take Shakespeare's advice and "examine other beauties." Because even though this is a big loss, there are others out there.
Readers? Is this guy going to show up again when he has a break from school? Is there something here to save? Should she send him another note? Discuss.
– Meredith
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Do I tell her he cheated?
Q: Hi Meredith,
I have been single for a little over a year after a two-year relationship. I date a good amount and enjoy my single life a lot. My last relationship didn't end well and I only recently completely got over it. Let's call my ex "George." I don't care about George at all and I feel triumphant that I can now say that and truly mean it. Occasionally, I run into George while out with friends and we always say a brief awkward hello. Recently I decided it was time to defriend him and his friends on Facebook after seeing some photos of him with his ex-girlfriend and other girls. I felt this was the last step in my healing process.
So that brings me to this weekend. I was out with some friends at a bar. And who do you think comes over to say hello ... my ex. We say a forced hello and chat for a couple minutes about family and life. I go over and politely say hello to all his friends. The conversation then takes a turn to why I recently defriended him on Facebook. I explain to him that I thought it was the mature thing to do. I no longer wanted his life popping up on my news feed. I say goodbye and we part ways.
After I got home, I receive a text from George asking whether I got in safely. I respond that yes, I did make the short trip to my apartment safely and that I am sorry that he was so upset that I ended our virtual friendship (note the sarcasm). About 20 minutes later as I am getting ready for bed, I receive a phone call from George. George says that he is on his way over and that we need to talk. Once again I laugh in his face, but tell him he can come over. We had both been drinking all night and this affected my judgment but hey, I am young (26). I knew why he was really coming over. We discuss how neither of us are currently seeing anyone and that this night is a one-time thing and it will never happen again. Anyway, he spends the night. We say our goodbyes the next morning and that was that. I felt so good. It was killing him that I no longer cared about him at all, that I was in control and that part of my life was over for good.
Flash forward to Saturday night. I am sitting at my apartment waiting for my roommate to finish getting ready. I am on Facebook and see George's profile. We still aren't friends but the Facebook gods are suggesting that we know each other. And what pops out at me immediately is that he has a girlfriend!! I text him a rather jolting note about his morals. I would have never had him over if I knew this was the case. I am completely against cheating. He apologizes to me and said it was a mistake and that he was drunk.
Now this is why I am writing in: Do I contact his girlfriend to let her know about Friday night? I know I did nothing wrong but at the same time it is nagging at me and I feel bad for her since she is so oblivious. I was too, because he puts on a good act. My friends have all gone 50/50 on this question. Some are strongly against it. Others suggest I do it because he sure as hell isn't going to come clean and this girl deserves to know. I feel like I should tell her so I feel better and it’s the right thing to do. But is it? Does the girlfriend have a right to know that her boyfriend cheated on her? Should I be the one to tell her?
– The morally confused, Boston
A: This is a tough one -- and there's no right answer. Telling seems intrusive. Not telling seems dishonest.
I want you to do what's best for you -- because you're my concern (when George's new girlfriend writes in, I'll focus on her). And what's best for you is to leave this alone. I want you to walk away and not dwell on George. Wasn't that your original plan?
George didn't have a girlfriend when he was your Facebook friend not long ago. I'm not sure when he committed to her, but it's his business -- and it's his cheat. Yes, you might be doing her a favor by letting her in on your Friday entertainment, but I fear that the disclosure will only put you in the middle of a mess. You're trying to separate yourself from this guy. It's bad enough that you share friends. Do you really want to reach out to his girlfriend?
My advice is to move on. Don't "re-friend" him on Facebook and avoid him when you see him out. Start focusing on your new life.
You're only recently over this. You don't owe anybody anything right now. Please, protect yourself.
Readers? Do you disagree? Sometimes I vote for disclosure, but in this case it seems best for her to run without making it her responsibly. Or am I wrong? Will contacting the new girlfriend make it hard for the LW to stay away from her ex? Discuss.
– Meredith
He has me up in the air
I'll be e-mailing about self-help/love books today. The sorting process took longer than I thought. You should hear from me today or tomorrow if you're getting one.
And now a letter that comes with an obvious song of the day ...
Q: Hi Meredith,
When I met my boyfriend of two years, there was instant attraction. Our first date started off as dinner and turned into three hours of walking and talking, cut off only by the T schedule. Since then we have fallen head over heels for each other. When we both found ourselves in housing turmoil several months ago, we decided to move in together -- a great decision, as it turns out. We balance each other out wonderfully. I could go on and on, so I'll cut myself off with this: I never thought a relationship could be this good.
We're both in our early 20s. He's about to get his graduate degree, and I'm struggling to get my career going. My problem is about what happens after he graduates. When we first started talking about the future, he said he wanted to either move to another city, or go abroad for a while. Being with him is more important to me than my location, so I said I'd go wherever he goes next. I just need to know where we're going with enough time to set myself up with a job. Times are pretty tough in my chosen field, so this is a process I need to start as early as possible
After that discussion, it seemed that his preference about where to go changed literally every week and has settled on a murky "I don’t know." I completely understand that he's under a lot of pressure at school and doesn't want to feel he’s signing his life away with one decision, and I've been very patient. We're approaching a deadline -- his graduation, the end of my current job, and the end of our current lease are all going to happen in May. He knows I need a plan soon, but if anything, he's gone backward in the planning process. Now he's talking about taking a break after school before moving on, meaning either continuing at current job for a few months, or even going to his parents' place for a while for a few months.
Meredith, I can't take a break. I have daunting student loans to pay and need a reliable income. I need to start looking for my next job yesterday or sooner, but I can't do that if I don't know where I'm going to be or how long I’ll be there. All I need to know right now is what city and country we will be in for the next year or so -- hardly a permanent life plan! I know he loves me and is resisting adulthood, not being with me, but the two will soon be linked. I guess the crux of the problem is, I made my boyfriend a priority in my life, a factor in my major decisions, and I'm not seeing him do the same.
Is it fair for me to say I'll go along with whatever he decides as long as it fits my timeline? Is it fair for me to ask that he make me as much of a priority as I’ve made him? Do I need to be more patient, or is it time for a dreaded ultimatum?
Oy. I need some chocolate.
– Patience, Boston
A: Oy, indeed.
It's totally fair for you to ask him to consider your timeline and financial needs as he's making this decision. If he's going to move in with his parents, you need to know by April. I mean, your lease is up in May.
I understand that you want to give him the freedom to make a choice, but that freedom has incapacitated his brain. It's difficult to know exactly what to do after grad school. The decision is even more overwhelming when you're making it for two. Perhaps if you tell him what you'd like to do come May, he'll feel less pressure to make the "right" decision for both of you. You're half of the equation, not just someone who's along for the ride.
If he's really opposed to making decisions as a twosome, you have to start prioritizing yourself. But really, I think speaking up about what you want will take some of the pressure off your boyfriend. At the very least, it'll lead to some honest discussion.
Readers? Is she giving him too much power? Has that power stalled his decision? Should the decision be his? Is he avoiding adulthood? Discuss.
– Meredith
He didn't leave his girlfriend
I received hundreds of e-mails from people asking for copies of self-help/love books yesterday. And I only have about 30 books. Those who were quick enough to get books will hear from me by Monday. If you don't hear from me, thank you for the e-mail. Many of you sent funny messages, which made my day. I wish I had more books.
And now a Friday letter ...
Q: I recently got out of a five-year relationship with my boyfriend because we finally accepted the fact that neither one of us was willing to sacrifice our needs and move to be together. Months ago, when this was all crumbling down, my coworker and I became close when we realized we both were in very similar situations; however, his relationship was still intact.
Once this connection was made, we would talk a lot during the day and started hanging out after work. We sent texts constantly and he would always mention things that we could do come the springtime and summer. He had told a mutual friend that he had a crush on “someone” (which was obvious to the mutual friend that it was me) even though he still did love his girlfriend. I was a little disheveled from just walking away from a great guy, so all of this was an easy distraction and I felt myself becoming attached to the relationship.
After a few too many drinks one night, the relationship turned from just simply being "two friendly coworkers." The same thing proceeded to happen a few more times but then all of a sudden, he did a complete 180 on me. No longer was he asking me to hang out, and if I sent a message, hours would go by before he responded and that was if he responded at all. After a little over a week of this, I asked what the deal was and he said that maybe what we were doing wasn't a good idea. He said we could still hang out together, it just had to be in public. I responded that maybe we should just cool it all together then. I wanted to play the "I'm cool with this" card so I acted like it didn't bother me when, in reality, I was devastated. Perhaps because it filled the void that my boyfriend had just left and made everything easier for me, but I felt like we could have been great together (and so did everyone else at work as they constantly are always making comments about the two of us).
It has been almost two months since that conversation and he is still seriously involved with his girlfriend. We do not hang out at all after work anymore, but he comes into my office constantly and he will send me messages randomly every now and again. I still feel like I'm stuck on the situation and not sure of what to do next. His visits and texts give me false hope that maybe if I wait it out, his relationship will end and we can start something good. But then another part of me, and I must say the smarter part of me, thinks that if he really wanted to be with me -- plain and simple -- he would be. And I have to remind myself that this is a guy who cheated on his girlfriend on more than one occasion and then just went back like nothing happened. Do I really want that type of guy? No. So I am trying to get over it but am having a really hard time doing so. Do I ask him to stop the visiting and texts, allowing him to know that I really did care for him and that it wasn’t just some care-free thing for me as I had let on? Or do I just wait it out and hope I can get over it on my own so that our work relationship can stay intact and my pride won’t be wounded? Help!!
– Trying To Get Over This, Boston
A: My advice is to ignore the texts and keep it simple when you talk to him at work, TTGOT. He'll pick up on your vibe. He's no dummy. If you feel like you need to tell him why you're pulling away go ahead, but I fear the disclosure will result in a long conversation that confuses you even more.
Why is he visiting your desk and sending you texts? Maybe because he likes the attention. Or maybe because he wants to make something abnormal feel normal. Or maybe because it makes him feel less guilty. Or maybe because he's an idiot. Or maybe because he's liner-upper.
None of these options are good ones. And you're right about everything -- that he made your breakup easier, that he filled the void, and that he's a jerk who cheated on his girlfriend and then acted like nothing happened.
This is going to be difficult, but it's all part of the breakup. Start looking for other distractions and allow yourself to mourn what you're really missing.
Readers? Does she need to have a talk with the office guy? Why is he stopping by? Did she have reason to believe he'd leave his girlfriend for her? Was he just filling a void? Discuss.
– Meredith
He hasn't said the three words
As promised, I'm posting the list of self-help/love books today. These are books that are mailed to me by publishers because I write about love. If you want to review one of these books for the Love Letters audience (anonymously, if you want), e-mail me (meregoldstein at gmail dot com) with “BOOK REVIEW” in the subject line, and tell me your book of choice and home mailing address. I'll contact people who are getting books and I'll keep sending until I run out.
Those who get books will have a few weeks to read them and come up with a one-sentence review. Our interns will choose the best review.
Here's the list. Be quick. Books go fast. (Today's letter is below the list. Just scroll down.)
Kundalini, by Cyndi Dale
The Official Booty Parlor Mojo Makeover, by Dana B. Myers
The Art of War for Dating, by Eric Rogell
Delicious Dating, by Babe Scott
Fight Less, Love More, by Laurie Puhn, JD
Lovecasts, by Judi Vitale
Women are from Venus, Men are Idiots, by John McPherson
Celebrating Love, by Jim McCann
Project: Happily Ever After, by Alisa Bowman
From Heartbreak to Heart’s Desire, by Dawn Maslar, MS
A Compendium of Kisses, by Lana Citron
Shameless, by Pamela Madsen
The Military Marriage Manual, by Janelle Hill, Cheryl Lawhorne, and Don Philpott
Dealbreaker, by Dave Horwitz and Marisa Pinson
Girl, Get Your Mind Right! by Tionna Tee Smalls
eHarmony Guide to Dating the Second Time Around, by Dr. Gian Gonzaga, Ph. D
The Case for Falling in Love, by Mari Ruti, Ph. D
Back to Us, by Raphael Cushnir
Attached, by Amir Levine, M.D., and Rachel S.F. Heller, M.A.
I Love You Even Though, by Rebecca M. Schuler and Christine W. Regan
What About Me? by Dr. Jane Greer
Life Unlocked, by Srinivasan S. Pillay, M.D.
The Man Whisperer, by Donna Sozio and Samantha Brett
His Cold Feet, by Andrea Passman Candell
Fury, by Koren Zailckas
Money and Marriage, by Michael Sion
Q: Dear Meredith,
Long time listener, first time caller, as they say! Here's the plot:
Cast of Characters
Me: mid-twenties, gainfully employed, no smoking/drinking/white shoes after Labor Day.
Him: mid-twenties, gainfully employed, no smoking/drinking/romantic comedies starring Hugh Grant.
The Prologue
We met in college, and have been dating on and off for almost four years. Our "off" periods were primarily due to our respective careers -- I moved out of the country for a period of time, his unusual job requires an inordinate amount of travel. After traveling the nation and the world, we've come to to the realization that we are perfect for each other. We've talked about our future, raising children, and we're back together and totally in love. Well, I am totally in love.
The Problem With the Script
Not once in our many years of being involved with each other has he ever said, "I love you." I’ve said it once or twice, and his response each time was, "You mean the world to me." He’s never said it to anyone else in his dating history, so I know the words mean a lot and he wouldn't ever take that kind of verbal commitment lightly. The problem is, hearing "I love you" is really important to me.
My question to you, as the Official Script Editor of Cupid, is: how can I address this subject, sensitive as it is, without freaking him out? It’s important to me, and it's something I need to hear in a relationship, but I understand it’s also a Very Big Thing to bring up. I can already hear shouts from the audience, telling me I should be grateful for a man who shows his affection, though he might not tell it (and believe me, I am grateful); but is it wrong of me to feel that the words carry their own emotional weight, as well?
Thanks in advance for all the advice!
– Hoping For A Rewrite, Boston
A: HFAW, you might hear a few shouts from the LL crowd about being grateful, but it seems to me that you are. I think most of us want to be told that we're loved, not just that we mean the world to someone.
If he hasn't said it because he just doesn't feel comfortable saying those very loaded words until it feels natural, I'm not worried. Some people psych themselves out and can't say "I love you" until they've already loved someone for quite some time. It only matters if he hasn't said it because he's unhappy or doesn't see this lasting.
You have my permission to ask whether it's hesitation or unhappiness and doubt. If it's doubt, you can panic. But if it's hesitation, which it probably is, you just have to take a deep breath, sit tight, and remember that you do mean the entire planet to him. That's something. If he's happy, hang on to that and try to relax. Kiss him and tell him that you'll enjoy the "show" part of the show and tell.
I wish I could edit your script. Life doesn't work that way. Which is a bummer, because I'd come up with some amazing lines for him. You'd melt.
Readers? Should she even bring this up with him? We get a lot of "I love you" letters. Can anyone who holds off on saying it explain why? Is his job and their on-and-off beginnings relevant? Discuss.
– Meredith
Can I date his ex?
Q: Hi Meredith,
I'm a divorced 30-something father (separated about 3 years ago) who has been trying to adapt to life after a nasty divorce. Now that the dust has settled, I can safely say that things between myself and my ex-wife "Jen" are amicable, although it is clear that we will never be friends again.
About a year ago, a close friend "Steve" (who is also divorced and now with someone else), without even the nerve to inform me, decided to end our friendship and has since barely uttered a word to me to the point that others are noticing his blatant avoidance. My understanding (based on observation) is that Steve became friends with someone who took my ex-wife's side in my divorce.
Over the summer, I ran into Steve's ex-wife "Mary" (whom I had not talked to since before Mary and her Steve separated) at a sporting event. We talked, caught up on old times, and swapped phone numbers -- with the intent of getting our children together. About a month later, Mary called me to arrange time for our children to see each other. At the play date, which had to wait a few weeks because of parenting schedules, everyone had a great time and my friendship with Mary resumed.
Fast forward about 2 months: Mary tells me that she had been thinking about me in a different light and wants to go out on a date with me (neither of us are seeing anyone now). She also told me that her pre-teen daughter has noticed Mary's reaction whenever my name has been brought up -- and offered an approval to us dating. Quite honestly, I am intrigued at the idea as well ... but is it OK to date the ex-wife of a former friend?
My gut feeling: It is none of Steve's business who his ex-wife dates; Steve chose to end our friendship (for whatever reason) and Mary and I are both free to date. So, what harm is there to see if there is more than a spark?
– Cautiously Interested In The Next Step, Boston
A: Your gut is right, CIITNS. To me, this is a no-brainer. The fact that Steve bailed on you is a major bonus. You can go into this without having to worry about his blessing.
But know this: If Steve and your ex-wife's friends think that you're the enemy now, it's only going to get worse. Assuming they find out about you and Mary (and they will), they'll probably talk trash. You'll probably wind up having to see Steve, especially if it works out with Mary. It'll be awkward. And maybe awful. But ... love after divorce is always a bit messy. You just have to own your feelings.
My only advice is to make sure that Mary understands your history with Steve -- the fact that he bailed without reason long ago. She probably knows that, but just in case she doesn't, be clear about the timeline. Mary should know that the bad feelings with Steve have nothing to do with her.
You have my permission to be not-so-cautious.
Readers? Should the LW stay away from Mary to respect Steve? Should he tell Steve? Should he talk to his ex-wife about it? Should Mary be concerned? What are the rules here? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm always the other woman
I think it's time for another round of self-help/love book reviews. On Thursday morning, I'll post a list of self-help books that have been sitting on my desk for the past few months. If you want to review one, e-mail me (meregoldstein at gmail) with the title, your mailing address, and put "BOOK REVIEW" in the subject line. I'll send books until I run out of them.
Those who get a book will have until March 25 to review it for us. Like last time, the trick is that you have to review your book in one sentence. And just like last time, our Globe interns will pick best review. The winner will get a lame prize. Make sense? The books go fast (I only have about 30 to 40), so be an early bird on Thursday.
Q: Dear Meredith and LL Sages,
I'm taking a deep breath before spewing this out. Maybe 2 days ago got a phone call informing me that the guy I've been chilling with for the past 5 or so months has actually had a long-term, long-distance girlfriend. She's moving in this weekend. Wait. Stop. Excuse me?!? How did I miss that? To be fair, he withdrew a little last weekend, but really, that withdrawal should not have been the first tip that something so big was going on.
Now, here comes the harder part for me to say. I seem to have caught a chronic case of otherwomanitis. This is the 3rd guy I’ve dated who has had commitments elsewhere. One "forgot" to break it off with me. With the other guy, one of his buddies tipped me off. Examining it all, I guess it's pretty easy to carry on an affair with me. I'm not quite 26 and working to keep my head above water while trying to earn a master's degree. I work anywhere between 40 and 50 hours a week, am enrolled in two classes, and sometimes pick up between 10 and 15 of extra work. I enjoy getting the heck out of town on the weekends with my buddies. We always saw one another 2 or 3 days a week, usually at least one weekend day, and had a decent amount of phone and e-mail contact. That seems like a lot of contact to me but there are 3-4 other days a week that I was not physically around to play with him. Short of running hiring a private investigator, how can I verify a guy is telling me the truth when he says that he is single? (I always ask before I agree to go out on date #1.)
In dating, I'm really just looking for someone to play with in my non-work time. If something deeper develops, that'd be great but ... chances of finding Mr. Forever and a Day seem pretty slim at the moment. After this string of bad luck, I'm annoyed with myself for being a bad people reader. There's a lesson being missed here, but I can't seem to grasp it. I just ... almost feel like it's unethical for me to keep dating. I keep thinking of that girl who just moved her life for him! I don't even have the right to feel this way because he wasn't mine -- he was *hers* and I was stealing him. How do I deal?
– Thief, Western Mass.
A: You asked these people if they had girlfriends, Thief. They said no. You saw this last guy three times a week. You had every reason to believe that he was your boyfriend. I have no idea why you've had such bad luck, but it seems to me that it's not your fault. Being busy shouldn't make you a magnet for cheaters. Let's blame this on coincidence, age, and place in life.
As for reading people, all I can say is that you should feel as though you're building emotional intimacy with people over time, even if you're busy. You don't have to be looking for a husband, but over the course of a few months you should be introduced to someone's friends and family and let in on secrets and routines. If you're not feeling any closer to a person after many dates, go find another companion. Because yes, you're busy, but sometimes that's the best time to find Mr. Forever and a Day. Your Mr. Forever and a Day is probably going to be the kind of guy who appreciates busy.
Don't let this bad luck mean more than it does. It's not as though you were ignoring framed wedding pictures and ladies' underpants around your boyfriend's apartment. You were shocked to find out that this guy lied to you. You're doing your due diligence. Let's keep the blame where it should be. On him.
Readers? Is she really a bad people reader? Was she ignoring signs? How can she be sure that her suitors are single? Does being busy really affect her ability to get closer to someone? Is this just bad luck? Discuss.
– Meredith
Why am I thinking about my ex?
Q: Hi Meredith,
I'm 35 and about 4 years ago, my fiance and I split up. We had been dating for over 2 years and had been discussing marriage, but after he proposed I began having panic attacks and did not feel that he was fully committed. We were also living out of state and I was homesick, and after many stalled talks about our future, I decided to move back home. A few months passed and he moved to my home state to try to give it another run, but eventually he left because he was unhappy. When he left I was devastated, but also felt relief because it had seemed like we were fighting a losing battle.
Fast forward four years later: I'm in a new relationship. We started seeing each other about 10 months after my previous relationship ended. Although I was trying to take it slow and keep myself open to date others, I really was only seeing him. He is someone I've known for quite some time (about 10 years) and he was a good friend and really helped me move on. Eventually we fell in love.
So, now we've been together for almost 4 years and we've been talking about marriage. I love him and can see a great future with him, but all of a sudden, I'm thinking about my ex again. I had thought about him occasionally over the past few years, and while these memories were always fond, I also felt that I had dodged a bullet. In fact, one time he tried to contact me and I didn't respond because I was with my current boyfriend. So, I don't understand why now that my current relationship is going so well I'm having thoughts and regrets about my ex. I keep thinking that maybe I shouldn't have moved back home and that I made a mistake "abandoning" him. It doesn't help that we have several mutual friends that spend a lot of time with him and I keep hearing about all the exciting things he has been doing lately, and I keep seeing pictures of him and his new girlfriend. I keep thinking how that could have been my life. It's as if the pain I felt right after we broke up is back. I'm assuming that maybe these thoughts are connected to the fact that I'm thinking about marriage again, but that doesn't make me feel any better, nor does it help relieve any of the guilt I feel about having these thoughts while in a relationship with a great guy. Why am I all of a sudden stuck in the past?
– moving on, again?, Pembroke
A: You're not stuck in the past, MOA. You're just having jealous FOMO (fear of missing out). It's a temporary feeling and it's normal.
I'm not even convinced that your obsessive thoughts about your ex have anything to do with your fear of commitment. I think that this is all about seeing those pictures of your ex and his new girlfriend. Those pictures would drive anyone crazy.
It's never fun to hear about exes through friends. You'll always be jealous when you hear that your ex is doing well. You'll always wonder if he'd be doing as well with you. That's often how it goes with big, important exes. We have doubts about leaving them and fantasies about reconnecting with them -- but then we wake up next to the person we actually chose and remember why we're there.
If you allow yourself to define these feelings as a simple reaction to news about the ex, you'll be able to write them off. And maybe focus on what's real. Because your reality sounds pretty great.
Readers? Is this about the ex or is she unhappy with the new boyfriend? Is it relevant that she got more serious with the current partner sooner than she would have liked to? Is it normal to think about an ex this much? How do you stop the pattern? Discuss.
– Meredith
I have the urge to keep calling
Q: Dear Meredith,
Months after a major breakup from a big relationship, I started talking to this guy from a dating website. He told me he wanted to buy a house, get married, have kids ... the works. I'm 25-years old and I'm ready to settle down, so this was exactly what I was looking for. We started dating and we hit it off like we had known each other for years.
Things moved along pretty quickly in the next 2 months, except he never said anything about a true commitment, as in calling me his "girlfriend." I, of course, wanted a relationship, not just someone to date and spend the night with. I started asking when we were going to become "official." At first he didn't want to talk about it at all, but then he went into a whole story about how he's worried about his job security and how he would have to move back to his parents' house in a different state if he lost his job, etc. He said he hasn't committed to anything since living here in MA. I became very emotional and told him that I don't know what my future holds either, but I was willing to give it a shot. He stuck to his story and I was left trying to figure out what to do.
Long story short, I didn't know if I wanted to wait for him to figure it out or feel more secure about his job. I went back and forth, telling him that I wanted to slow things down to a friendship level until he was sure, and then the following day, I told myself to stop worrying and just go with the flow. I told him this as well, thinking that everything would be OK. He said that we were fine and not to worry. The following day, we talked briefly online, but he didn't call like usual. When I called him, he seemed annoyed.
That was the last time I heard from him. The days following were filled with me trying to get a hold of him via texts and calls. I want him to "man up" and tell me what happened.
It has been about 2 weeks now and I can't stop thinking about the situation. I stopped contacting him because it wasn't getting me anywhere, but I keep having these urges to call or text again. How do I get past this? Do I give it more time and try to contact him to get some answers? All my girlfriends tell me he's going to come around sooner or later. Do you think that's true? Why am I so hung up over this?
– I Want Answers Now, North of Boston
A: You want answers, IWAN? It seems to me that you have all the answers you need. At two months, you asked about commitment. He answered with a long list of issues that don't have anything to do with you. Then he started backing away from the relationship. That's a big answer, just not the one you wanted.
Did he behave like a coward? Sure. But that's another good thing to know, that he made this all about him and didn't put you at ease.
I'm glad you mentioned your last relationship. To me, it's very relevant. Sometimes, after we get out of a big relationship, we want our next relationship to become as important as the previous one in record time. We're worried that we wasted our good dating years with the ex. We're impatient. We forget how long it took us to get where we did with the previous person.
I'm not saying that you asked for a commitment too quickly with this new guy, but I am saying that you have to keep reminding yourself that it's not a big loss. Some of this sadness, anger, and wanting to call might have a lot to do with your ex. Your body is trained to mourn in a certain way. Your brain is having trouble separating one loss from the other. Just remember that you didn't waste any time here. You got all the answers you need within a matter of weeks.
Every time you have the urge to call him, call a friend. Or hop online and browse your options.
Readers? Am I right about the ex stuff? Am I right about her not needing answers? Did his job concerns have anything to do with her? How should she deal with the urge to call? Discuss.
– Meredith
Should I tell him how I feel?
Q: Hi Meredith,
I'm a 20something female professional living in Boston. While I've dated around, I'm admittedly a romantic moron in that I've never had a long-term relationship.
A few years ago, I met "Tom" through a friend. Tom and the friend go to grad school together in another state, but I visit often (every other month or so). Tom is one of those genuinely nice/goofy/nerdy guys, and we share a lot of the same interests. About a year ago, I realized that I had romantic feelings for Tom that I am pretty sure are reciprocated. When our friends see us together, they tell me it's clear that he's interested. When I come to visit, he'll go out of his way to meet up with us, and we spend a lot of time talking one-on-one. He laughs at my lame jokes, and I laugh at his. We stay close to each other at parties/bars. He's visited Boston a few times (he has family in the area), and while he was here recently, we went out together alone. He paid, but it was never overtly called a "date."
However, it's never progressed past friends. I know he's not gay, and he's not dating anyone at the moment. He's very shy and a bit of a romantic moron himself, which may be why he hasn't ever seized the moment, but I've given him plenty of signals. I'm usually the one reaching out to him, but he's always very eager to meet up when I'm around. While my friends yell at me to make a move, I'm never sure how to go about it, and it never seems to be the right time. Further complicating the matter, he's finishing grad school this spring, and he's probably going to move far away. I don't want to sign up for a long-distance relationship, but I feel that I need to tell him how I feel.
What should I do? Is it even worth telling him how I feel when he will only move away? If I should tell him, which I'm leaning toward, how do I word it without scaring him? Aghhh! I'm so not good at these things. I've been online dating, and I even dated another guy for a few months (which ended a while ago). However, Tom is always in the back of mind.
– Romantic Moron, Boston
A: It's been a while since we've heard a good story about Deredith Boldstein.
Let's gather 'round the campfire and I'll tell you another tale.
Once upon a time, in ... let's say ... 1993 ... Deredith fell in love for the first time. She was only a teenager, but she was sure about this boy. She just didn't know how to admit her feelings. She was friends with the young man and he seemed to love her company. She didn't want to ruin it, so she kept quiet for a long time. A very, very, very long time.
Finally, one night, she snapped. After leaving a party at the young man's house, Deredith ran back inside and called out to him, "I have more-than-friend feelings for you!" The young boy looked stunned. Probably because his mom was upstairs. Bewildered, he told her that he didn't know how to respond but that he was happy she disclosed her feelings. Deredith left his house without an answer. The next day, the boy told her that he didn't reciprocate her feelings but that he cared about her very much.
The thing is, even with the rejection, Deredith didn't regret telling the boy how she felt. In fact, she got a strange rush from putting it all out there. She felt powerful. She felt strong. She felt like a sexual being (even thought she had barely hit puberty and had really unfortunate bangs).
The lesson here, I think, is that it always feels good to get it all out there. There's something awesome about saying, like a rock star, "Let's do this thing." And that's pretty much how I think you should say it. "Tom, I have more-than-friend feelings for you. I know that you're leaving and that we've both been slow to talk about this, but I want you to know how I feel. Because I like you."
Get to it. You have nothing to lose but ambiguity. And please, update us soon.
Readers? Thoughts? Got an idea for a speech for the LW? Is it worth disclosing knowing that he's going away? Is there any reason not to disclose? Is there anything to lose? Discuss.
– Meredith
I need to break up with a great guy
Q: I need to know that it's okay to leave the good guy. The guy that listens and puts up with the crazy and brings breakfast to bed. The one that makes you laugh and tells you when to stop being so serious but knows that life isn't just a game. The one who will know what to make for dinner after a tough day just to cheer you up and send pictures to let you know that he's thinking of you. The one who will make chicken soup when you're sick and wipe all the tears from your eyes. The guy who wants to have a dog and loves kids, can fix a car, and can spend a day doing nothing on a couch and read with you when it's raining outside.
The background: We're both young, in our 20s, and have been together 6 years. He has a career and I have a job. We live together. We don't argue much and if we do, it's usually about spending time with family. We've never have serious problems or "deal-breaker" issues. I only know that despite everything being textbook right, I feel wrong.
I need to know that despite all the qualities, it is OK to leave and that I will be OK. I need to know that leaving my best friend for time for myself (and no, this is not to go sleep with someone else) is not the wrong choice. I need to know that there is someone else out there for both me and the guy whose heart will break. Because to leave will break a part of me but to stay no longer feels right.
I just need to hear it will be OK and that I'm not giving something good up for a bad reason.
– lost and loved, Boston
A: I can't tell you that it'll be OK, LAL. I can't promise you that in three years you won't look back and say, "I'd pay a million bucks to be able to have that perfect guy back in my life." I can’t promise that someone else is waiting for you. Dropping a wonderful guy (or woman) is always a risk. But based on what you've said, it's a risk you have to take.
You want to go it alone, so get going. Write a note to yourself reminding the future version of you that you broke up with your boyfriend because, as you put it, you "feel wrong." Write in the note that while timing isn't everything, it's huge, and you couldn't stay with Mr. Perfect without having doubts.
You'll miss him. You'll go through long periods of regret. You'll hear that he's dating someone else and you'll feel like a fool, even if you're happy with someone else. But then you'll read that note and remember that you had to explore on your own. You'll be confused and miserable, but being confused and miserable is better than being dishonest in a loving relationship.
I wish I could guarantee you something. All I can say for sure is that you've already made a decision.
Readers? Can you help the letter writer let the boyfriend go? Or convince the LW to stay? Can you say something that makes this feel any safer than it is? Discuss.
– Meredith
When do I talk about my criminal record?
Q: Hello Meredith and the LL community,
My dilemma involves dating with a criminal record/past. Please be honest but not cruel. Here it goes:
I am post-divorce plus a few long-term relationships. A handful of years ago during a particularly difficult time, I succumbed to all the life pressures that surrounded me and committed a series of "white collar" illegal acts within a short time period of time (less than a few months). I somehow snapped back into reality and crawled out of my deep clinical depression just enough to stop. Prior to all of this, I was somewhat the average Jill. I say "somewhat" because there is a history of child abuse, an abusive marriage, other skewed relationships, and the related pit-falls of those.
Not surprisingly, due to my history, there has been long-standing depression, which I survived without serious long-term consequences. Unfortunately, during the time period in question, I was not able to rally myself and committed these acts as a serious cry for help. As I said, I somehow snapped back into reality, felt extreme remorse, stopped the acts and continued with my life with a promise to myself that when life permitted, I would concentrate on getting the help I desperately needed. Fast forward a number of months from that realization and future self-help promise, the authorities became involved and the legal process began. While they conducted their investigation, I confessed and cooperated. I didn't even try to justify my actions or defend myself against the charges, aside from working out a plea.
Although I am sure it will happen, I am not looking to be flogged. I literally and psychologically served the time for my criminal acts. I think about this every day.
I am female, educated, and have a respectable career. In the years that have passed, I did get the help I desperately needed and continue with that support. I have cleaned up other areas of my life, terminated toxic relationships, and have had a lot of "me time" and I am now in a really good place. What I did during those months years ago is not who I am.
I will be beginning the process of putting myself out there in the dating world in hopes of eventually entering a serious, committed relationship. At what point do I divulge the above? Please, I am not asking if I should, I am asking when. I obviously don't want to be judged for one aspect of the sum of me (albeit a significant one), but I also believe in 100% honesty and I don't want to put anyone in the difficult position of feeling duped because I took too long to provide them with critical data for them to consider. I know that every situation is different and I will have to learn the balance once I actually start the process. I was hoping you could give me some guidelines to keep in mind and prepare for in advance.
As an aside, would you consider me un-datable? It won't deter me from trying, but I am curious enough to ask. I really am a good person and would be considered such by all that know me ... BUT I also know I carry a huge deal breaker.
– Somewhat Average Jill
A: I don't think you're un-datable, SAJ. You seem self-aware and positive. You've dealt with whatever it is that you did. You're being responsible about your depression. You have a good job. You're smart. One might even say that you're a catch.
Of course, not everyone is going to feel that way about you. I can't lie about what I might do if a person on a date told me they served time for a white-collar crime and "learned their lesson." It's true that the disclosure might cause me to run for the nearest exit. But -- I can't say that for sure. Dating and love is all about vibes. Sometimes we get bad vibes from people who have clean records. Other times we get awesome vibes from people who've made big mistakes. Hopefully, someone will get a great vibe from you.
My dating advice is to get yourself into a good circle of friends, a pack of nice people who can really get to know you and vouch for your character. It might be difficult to date online with your past -- because online dating involves quick judgments. But if you meet people through friends, those potential mates will know that you're surrounded by good folks who see you as a trustworthy person. They'll see you in context. Context is really, really important. You'll be able to talk about your mistakes whenever it feels natural, whenever your past comes up and it's time to share. Probably within a few dates. Before anything gets serious but after you've shared some of the good stuff.
Readers? Would you forgive a criminal record? When should she tell dates about her past? Agree with my advice about how she should date? Discuss.
– Meredith
I give away my goodies
Q: Dear Meredith,
Let's skip to the chase, shall we? I kind-of-recently got out of a relationship with someone I had been seeing on and off for a period of years. He moved, I dated someone else, he moved back, we got back together, and I cheated on each guy with a few different people (I know -- deplorable). Anyways, with all our ingrained bad habits, my starting school again, and general unhappiness with the relationship, I ended it. So now, here I am, a single lady for the first time since I was 17.
My problem is: I don't know how to not sleep around. I'm so used to "hanging out" with a guy at a bar for the night, going back to his place, and then taking off the next morning that I don't know how to function normally with guys anymore. (But what is "normal" really?) My friends warn me that I need to stop "giving away the goodies" because ... because guys won't respect me? Call me back? I don't even know. I'm not sleeping with every date because I'm trying to make an impression or make them think of me in any particular way: I do it because I've usually been drinking and I want to. Does that make me a bro? So sue me.
I think my question boiled down is this: In a dating culture that emphasizes "meet-ups" instead of old-fashioned, out-to-dinner-walk-her-to-the-door dates, how am I supposed to not give away the goodies? (Short if signing up for eHarmony, that is.) When did we depart from romance and end up with hook-up relationships that predominantly initiate and revolve around Gchat? Stop me if I sound like Carrie Bradshaw here, but when I do finally figure out I like a guy that I've been bar hopping with, how do I suddenly declare that I want to be wined and dined? Maybe I've got it all backwards.
– Giving Away the Goodies, Boston
A: I'm glad you made the Carrie Bradshaw comparison, GATG. There's something about that last paragraph that makes me think of Carrie at a laptop. Of course, Carrie never really questioned her own promiscuity. Because she was on TV.
But you're not. And my answer to your big question is: Yes, you have it backwards.
If you want to sleep around, that's fine. I'm totally cool with that. Just be safe. And by safe I mean STD-safe, but also safe from harm -- as in, don't go to some guy's house if you can't say for sure that he's not an ax murderer. And don't go anywhere unless you've told a friend where you are.
But, if you do want to meet a guy who sticks around for more than a night or two, cut down on the alcohol, put on the brakes, and let these relationships play out over the course of more than just a night. You're allowed to bar hop and have a drink with someone to get to know them, but there's no reason to rush the other stuff. I'm not saying that guys won't respect you if they've already "sampled the goodies" -- I've never believed that to be true -- but the goodies exchange is obviously confusing you. It's difficult to figure out if there's potential with a guy if you've already had an awkward morning-after experience with him.
The issue here really does seem to be alcohol, not the dating culture. Without too much bar fun, you'll probably want to return your own home and sleep in your own comfy bed, dreaming of the goodies to come.
Readers? Is she ready to date? Is this about alcohol or the dating culture? Is there anything wrong with having fun until she's ready to get serious? Is her last relationship relevant? How can she tell a guy that she wants to have a traditional date after a night at a bar? Share your goodies. Contribute some Song of the Day ideas.
– Meredith
He lied about being divorced
This letter writer loves putting things in parentheses. (Who doesn't?)
Q:Dear Meredith,
I am a 40something divorced mom of a grown child. I have been divorced for more than a decade. I have had several (3) long term relationships in that time, but all have failed to progress past the two-year mark for a few different reasons (ultimately, they were just not the right men for me).
I recently began online dating (again). I have tried it quite a few times over the years (all of the different sites). I recently met a man on a site and went out with him despite some misgivings about him being divorced a relatively short time. (About a year, according to his e-mail.)
We went out and had a fabulous time. We went out on a second date within a few days and had another great time. After this second date, he writes me an e-mail stating that he needed to come clean -- that he was not really divorced, he was only separated. He then told me that everything had been decided about the divorce agreement and he was staying with a friend and coming back to the family home to take the kids every other weekend. I was not comfortable with this, but I really liked the guy. So, I continued seeing him a few more times. After lots of chatting online and on the phone, (again, feeling like I was very connected to this guy) I started getting the feeling that he was not staying with a friend but still living in his marital home. I confronted him on this and he did admit that this was the case, but the marriage was over and it was just out of convenience that this was happening. I told him that I felt like I had been purposely misled by him and that I could not date someone who was still living with his wife, even if it was just because of the children (3 under age 10) or finances or under any other circumstances.
This guy got rather upset at me about this and could not understand how things were going along so well and then BAM, I changed my feelings for him. I tried to explain that it has been my practice for a long time not to date separated men. It has only been about 3 weeks since I met him and I feel that I was duped. Even though I felt we clicked, I do not think it's right to date someone that still lives in the marital home no matter what the circumstances are. I feel that the divorce process is agonizing and that he is doing a disservice to himself and his children by not focusing on the situation at hand and trying to begin a new romance with me. He has announced that he is moving out of the home in a few weeks in hopes that I will change my mind. (I feel his moving out has a lot to do with me and not really his own desire to move on, despite what he tells me.)
He just cannot understand why it's a good idea to wait to begin this relationship with me because he feels in his mind that he is 100 percent ready to move on because "his marriage was over for a long time before they decided to split." I think, at the very least, that it's going to take him 6 months to year to really get his life in order, move out, set a routine with his children and start getting his divorced finalized. (Another thing he is told me is that they will not be filing for divorce for at least a year, for financial reasons ---Something else I am not at all comfortable with) He thinks I should start back up with him after he moves out of the marital home. Am I being unreasonable to think that someone cannot move on in such a short time?
Should I just go with the flow and continue to see him because we clicked so well? I am going with my gut feeling, which I think is a good thing, but I just want a reality check from you and your readers. I also would like to say to this guy, "See, I am not being overcautious, the entire readership of Love Letters agrees with me!"
– No More Guys On the Rebound
A: It's possible he's rushing this whole thing and that his priorities are all messed up, NMGOTR. It's also possible that his marriage has been over for quite some time, that he was dating online to test the waters, and that he wound up meeting someone great long before he thought he would. All of that is probably true. He really likes you, but he has no idea what he's in for over the next year.
I'm sure there’s a person out there who wouldn't mind dating someone during the slow, uncomfortable, weirdness that comes with divorce, but that person isn't you. And at three weeks, there isn't much to lose besides the promise that comes with a few good dinners.
If he hadn't lied, you might be able to forgive. If he was already living alone, you might be able to reconsider. If he had plans to finalize his divorce within a month, you might be able to put up with dating someone who's only separated. But you're dealing with all of those things, and together, they're one big fat, deal-breaker.
Again, I think he really is smitten with you for the right reasons, so feel good about that. Please allow yourself to be flattered and let the experience remind you that there are people out there who can make you feel great. And commend yourself for knowing what's what. You're thinking of what's best for him and his kids. That's pretty selfless and cool. (Really.)
Readers? Is there anything here to salvage? It's difficult for her to meet people, so is it worth waiting it out? Is it admirable that he's moving out of his house for her or is that the wrong way to think of his decision? Are his lies forgivable? (Discuss.)
– Meredith
My crush is in an open relationship
Q:I enjoy reading your column every day and think that you and your readers could give appropriate guidance about the following situation:
A few months back, I began to realize that I was falling in love with a woman I have known for some time but never got to know well. Being a hopeless romantic, I penned a letter to her stating that I had come to cherish our time/conversation and that I didn't know where our relationship was headed, but that I was so blessed to have her in my life.
She did not respond directly to the letter, though at other points she had told me that I was "endearing in every way" and made me blush (inside and out, I imagine) with other generous (albeit exaggerated) compliments.
Over the following months, we texted every night before we go to bed, hung out after work, talked intimately about life, and generally appeared to be engaged in the process of falling in love as I have come to know it -- the breaking down of barriers and the full sharing of oneself with another.
Yesterday, after playing board games at a local cafe for a few hours after work, she invited me to her apartment. I accepted, not thinking/expecting that anything physical would occur, but with heart aflutter that this was yet another sign of a desire for romance.
After looking at photos/artwork on her bed, I told her, in no uncertain terms, that I had fallen hard for her. She seemed excited to hear this first-hand, but also cautious, because, as it turns out, she is in an open relationship.
Such relationships are not for me (though I certainly do not begrudge others for engaging in them), but I now find myself between a rock and a hard place with two emotions/thoughts: (1) A wish that she had told me about her status earlier so that I could try to emotionally reorient myself (though I admit that I probably could not have stopped falling for her), and, connected with #1, (2) A concern that our relationship, somewhat paradoxically, cannot continue because we are so close, but cannot take the next step.
Should she have said something earlier? Exclusivity isn't important to her but was it reasonable to assume it wouldn't be for me? Do I try to slowly move away from the intimate communications we've been having, so as to create distance while not being reactive?
Thanks for your thoughts and your column
– Befuddled, NYC via Cambridge
A:Yeah, she should have said something about the fact that she was in a relationship, Befuddled. She wasn't considering your feelings. She wasn't treating you well. To be blunt, she was lying.
If you date her, you want to be the only one dating her. It's either you and only you -- or nothing at all. Yes, people are allowed to date more than one person at a time when they're on the hunt for a relationship, but she has already developed real intimacy with you. It's not like you'd be starting your relationship from scratch.
I'm befuddled, too. Tell her how you feel -- including the fact that you're irritated about her lack of honesty. If she can't make you feel safe in a romantic relationship that meets your standards, you're allowed to walk away thoroughly disappointed.
The lesson here is to ask questions. "Do you have a boyfriend?" "Are we falling for each other?" "What do these board games mean to you?" Ask these things sooner than later. You're entitled to answers.
Readers? Should she have disclosed her status? Even if she ends her open relationship, can she be trusted? What happened here? Discuss.
– Meredith
Who should have to call?
Happy Valentine's Day.
My presents to you are this story about our second year and the "Mortified" contest entries, which are very funny.
I wish I could have mentioned more regulars in the Globe story. I could have had an entire section about my favorite haiku.
Q: Hello Meredith,
I'm a 33-year-old woman who got out of a five-year relationship a few years ago. The last year or so I've been trying to figure out the dating scene. During this time I've noticed a pattern with guys -- mostly younger guys -- who, when we meet and express genuine interest in each another, ask to exchange numbers (or they simply give me their number at the moment when I thought they would ask for my number). In most cases these guys want ME to call THEM.
I'll be honest with you, when this happens I automatically become disinterested. Maybe I'm old fashioned but whatever happened to the days when a guy would ask for your number and would (or in some cases wouldn't!) call you? I'm of the mindset that if a guy is really interested in me they'll call, but since I've noticed this pattern I wonder if I should change my attitude. Are these guys really waiting for me to contact them? Are the dating dynamics between men and women really changing?
Would appreciate your insight.
– To call or not to call?, Boston
A: I can't make sweeping statements about what young men do or do not do, but I will say that communication has changed for sure, and I'm impressed that these guys are mentioning phone calls at all. I'm surprised they're not just texting you.
I don't know why they're handing you their numbers, TCONTC. Maybe they're afraid of rejection. Maybe they know you're older and want you to take the lead. Maybe they believe that by giving you their digits, they're allowing you to do what makes you feel comfortable. It's a mystery.
But I do know this: I've waited for a call or two in the past, and I'd much rather have a number to dial. I believe in old-fashioned stuff when it comes to chivalry and respect, but if these guys are being nice and treating you well and simply want you to call them first, I'm OK with that.
Now, if these guys don't respond after you've left a message, that's another story. It doesn't matter who makes the first move as long as everyone gets treated with respect.
And remember, as soon as you call them, you'll be waiting for that precious call back. Before you know it, it'll be just like the old days.
Readers? Does the man have to call first? Is this a trend? Why is it taking the wind out of the LW's sails? Do they really want her to call? Young men out there: Do you give numbers or ask for them? Spread the love.
– Meredith
Why did he bail?
Q: Hi Meredith,
I just discovered your column, and I think it's wonderful. I hope you can help put to rest some of my concerns.
I met Mike online 7 years ago. We tried a long-distance relationship, but we were both young and it didn't work out.
Over the years, we have tried being friends, but he has struggled with this friendship. I was always in a long-term relationship and was actually engaged for quite some time. Throughout this, he was jealous of my fiancé and couldn't have conversations without expressing his dislike of my situation.
Finally, a few months after ending my engagement (completely unrelated), I asked Mike to visit to see if there could have been anything between us.
He is 23, has never had a relationship last over a month, and was very sexually inexperienced before he came out here. Neither of us had talked about anything being serious, but we were physical, and he even said the "L" word before leaving. This was so unnecessary since it was said at the end of the visit, so to me it holds extra weight.
The first text messages after he headed back home were along the lines of "I miss you." Less than 12 hours later he says that the entire thing was a bad idea, that I shouldn’t have convinced him to come out there, and that it was a waste of time and money.
I felt like he was two different people. He refused to have a mature conversation, instead choosing to ignore me.
It's been two months since we last talked and I still can't get over it. I can't decide if I want him to want to be with me or if I want to be over him entirely. The worst part about it is I think his feelings were legitimate, but he doesn't know how to deal with them.
What is he thinking by cutting off contact abruptly like that? Does he just need space, or is he unlikely to come around in the future? I know the advice will likely be to move on, but somehow I feel like I can't without knowing what the reasoning could be behind all of this.
Thanks for any advice you might have.
– Left Hanging in Lowell
A: I have no idea what he's thinking, LHIL. And I'm sorry he bailed.
Feel free to send him an e-mail that spells out your feelings and confusion. If he rallies quickly, fine, but if not, he's just not up for this.
My guess is that he's not going to make this better. And that means you'll have to move on without any answers and stick to your guns when he eventually shows up to muddy the waters once again (and he will).
You don't need to understand what happened from his perspective to get over this. I think we all believe that getting answers will make it easier to deal with a loss, but I'm not convinced that answers help that much. Sometimes answers just lead to more questions -- and the urge to bargain and try to fix things that can't be fixed.
The only perspective that matters is yours. You tried the romantic relationship again to see if there was anything between you two, and now you have your answer. There's something between you, but it's confusing and unreliable. So there you go. You can do better. But you already knew that.
Readers? Do answers help with the process of moving on? Can she move on without them? What would cause a person to bail so quickly? Is his sexual experience relevant? Should she send one last e-mail for her own sanity? Discuss.
– Meredith
Why can't guys be like grandpa?
Q: I can't believe it has come to this (no offense Meredith, you're great) but at this point I need advice from someone who doesn't know me personally!
I'm a Boston girl, born and raised. I love the Red Sox, think the North End is the best Little Italy in the country, love Legal Sea Foods, and would never date any guy in a Yankees hat! Okay, okay, you get the idea. But recently, I've been wondering if I might have to leave Boston to find the right guy.
I'm 26 years old, single, never married, have a good job, and a great family! We're a big Italian family, and I have 7 brothers and sisters who are really supportive and loving. Basically, I love my life here. But, sometimes I feel like every bar I go to, every club, every boat show, every Sox game, I run into an ex or meet the same people all the time!
I've dated every type of guy you can imagine. Thin, chubby, athletic, tall, short, older than me, younger than me, smart, dumb, fun, boring ... you name it, I've dated him.
I've dated an abusive guy who I tried to change, a great guy who my family loved but who ended up boring me to death, a professional athlete who cheated on me and didn't seem interested in me all the time, and my perfect match but he couldn't hold down a job and I nearly went broke trying to make a relationship work with him. If there was a way to combine all these guys and make them better where they were lacking then everything would be great, but as every woman knows, we can't do that ... unfortunately!!!!!
The worst part is, I always compare them all. Every time a new guy disappointments me I think of the great guy who bored me death but loved me authentically. Every time a new guy starts to drain my patience and my wallet, I wonder about the professional athlete and how easy my life would have been with him financially. I end up sabotaging myself going into every relationship.
So here is my question, what are us women to do when every guy we meet ends up disappointing us in some major way? I'm sorry, but a guy has to have a stable job and his own life in order. He also has to stay in some sort of shape and care about himself. He has to be confident without being so in love with himself that he has no time for me. Is that really too much to ask? Decent looking, stable financially, and respects me enough to not put his hands on me. Is that really too much?
I'm losing faith that the types of guys like my grandfather, who worked hard his whole life, supported his family, and always respected my grandmother, just don't exist anymore. Why does it seem like today's guys are not only incapable of being a man, but the one's that are capable of doing it are either lost in their work and boring, or always jumping from girl to girl and living in clubs three nights a week?
I like to have fun, I like to have a drink or two when I go out, but I also can be a great girlfriend and want a good relationship. Are there any well balanced guys out there who are just ... normal? If they are, where are they Meredith???? Am I really asking for too much??
– Giving Up Hope, Revere
A: There are a lot of people in and around Boston, GUH. Many of those people are guys in their 20s. And here's an interesting fact: The gap between single women and men is significantly smaller here than it is in New York, at least according to 2006 stats. If you're running into the same people all of the time, you're going to too many of the same places. Grab a single friend and come up with a plan to introduce yourself to a new location or activity every week. Don't put too much pressure on yourself to meet someone every time you go out, but do pressure yourself to change your scenery.
Also, consider the possibility that your grandpa wasn't so great. I mean, he was fantastic, I'm sure. But we grandkids tend to assume that the marriages we grew up admiring were just as good before we were alive to see them. My grandparents had a fantastic marriage. Like, epic. When my grandma Lorraine died (surrounded by her grandchildren and buckets of Chinese food -- that's how we Goldsteins go), my grandfather wept in her lap and I thought, "This can never be matched." But then I remembered the very wise Lorraine telling me years ago that my grandpa was sort of an idiot when he was younger, and that when they got married at 20 and 25, they didn't know what they were in for. We're all unpolished when we're young. We evolve together.
You're probably not going to find an ideal suitor at your age, but that's OK. The point is to find someone who makes you laugh and is supportive. You might have to put up with a dude who doesn't have a job. Or a guy who needs to be told that he shouldn't try to make out with you before you're ready. Or a guy who spends too much time at work because he's just starting up his career. And maybe in 30 years, you'll still be with that guy and he'll look a bit more like your grandpa. Not your actual grandpa, because that would be creepy, but you know what I mean.
Readers? Are her expectations too high? What do you think about my grandpa principle? How is she running into the same people over and over? Who wants to move to Long Beach after looking at that map? Who wants to guess which professional athlete she dated? (I don't know, but I'm curious, too.) Get to it.
– Meredith
Our troubles with alcohol
I have compiled a massive rundown of Love Letters history for Saturday's paper – as in, the age range of letter writers, geography, topics of problems, number of times "grilled cheese" references were used (or food euphemisms, in general), and which commenter got the most number of recommends during our second year.
I'll try to have Boston.com post it online on Friday. It's cool.
Also, we chat today at 1.
Q: Meredith and Gang,
I will start with some back story:
I grew up with alcoholics all around me, my mother and grandfather being the most notable. My mother sobered up when I was a teenager and hasn't looked at it since.
I am 28 and engaged to a wonderful man. He is smart, funny, treats me well, and is very good with my 4 year old son. We love each other very much.
He drinks. Less now than before we met and got serious. We have been together 2 years, lived together for 1 and set to get married in April 2012. We have had both serious, sit-down conversations and big blow out fights over his drinking. He knows it borders on a problem. He drinks every night. If my son is there, he doesn't drink until after he goes to sleep and he will not drink if he's there alone with him. But it's still every night otherwise. Every once in a while he likes to spend his weekday off playing video games and drinking beer. He is home alone when he does this. Most of his friends are the go out and drink type. They rarely do anything else when they hang out. I admit that I like to have a drink every now and then but definitely not every day and not in too much excess.
My previous relationship (not my son's father) was with a severe alcoholic. I am talking first thing in the morning until he passed out at night, with little to no recollection of what went on in between (this man was NEVER around my child). So here's my problem: I know I have had bad experiences with alcohol and alcoholics. I am unable to tell if my fiancé’s drinking is "normal" or if it's a problem. I compare every little thing to this last relationship and can't tell if I am over-reacting. He has altered his drinking habits since he knows it’s a big deal to me. I tend to get snippy and defensive if I know he is drunk, but since this doesn’t happen EVERY time he is drunk I end up sending mixed signals to him. I also feel guilty when we go out together. I told him if he committed to stop drinking altogether I would never touch the stuff again. He is not interested in AA.
There is so much good here. He is respectful, loving, a good father-figure, and he literally makes my heart melt and knees weak when we are together. But I live in fear of putting my son in the same situation I grew up in. So where do I go from here?
– Drunk with Love and Resentment, CT
A: My advice, which might seem lame, is to take the fiancé to therapy. I say that because you can't decide what kind of drinking feels "normal" because of your family and your ex. I certainly can't tell you what's normal. We all have different boundaries when it comes to alcohol. We just have to figure out what they are.
You need to sit down with him -- and a counselor -- and talk about when you're OK with the drinking and when it feels scary. Then allow your fiancé to give his impressions of his own substance use. There's no need to shame him right now; from what you've told us, you can be confident that you're both on the same page when it comes to prioritizing safety. What's unclear is whether his drinking is a habit or an addiction. What's also unclear is whether you're allowed to enjoy some social drinking with him without feeling like a hypocrite. It's time to throw your hands up, admit to your fiance that you're thoroughly confused, and go work it out as a team in a safe place. Because again, boundaries can only be respected if you know what they are. It's best if you figure out your rules together -- and before the wedding.
Readers? Do they need a third party to help? Is she projecting her own family's past onto her fiance? Care to share any stories about partners, alcohol, and boundaries? Discuss.
– Meredith
He won't remove the pictures
Q: Hey Meredith,
My sister and I have been debating/bemoaning the etiquette around breaking up on Facebook and were hoping that you could answer a question for us. We are two college-aged ladies experiencing some complications specifically on the subject of tagged pictures. See, her boyfriend and the guy I've been dating for a month are both reluctant to remove their cuddly, kissy, coupley Facebook pictures with ex-girlfriends. Both men rationalize that they are trying to maintain casual friendships with these exes, and do not want to take the hurtful action of removing or untagging the pictures.
My sister and I lean toward thinking that this is a bunch of malarkey. My sister fears that her boyfriend still cherishes feelings for his ex. I don't feel similarly threatened by my guy's ex-lady, but I just feel awkward that his profile contains dozens of public photos of him with her! She's in most of the pictures tagged of him, and about half his profile pics. If we were to get more serious, I don't think I'd be comfortable with those photos staying up.
Female friends have even commented on the pictures to me (like today via text: "wow tell him to slim down on the ex-GF pics jeez! out of control!"). I'm slightly embarrassed by being in this position. I can't relate to my guy's reasoning since I'm not friends with any of my exes, but personally I always take down coupley pictures once a relationship has ended. (I've also noticed that many of my guy friends keep pictures of their ex-girlfriends on their profiles. Is this related to gender?)
Help! What do you think we should tell our guys? Is there a standard of etiquette around this issue?
– Take A Picture Down, It'll Last Longer?
A: If the picture is on his profile, he should take it down, TAPDILL. If it's tagged on someone else's, he’s allowed to de-tag himself. Your feelings should be more important than his ex's. And if he's worried about offending anyone, he should slim down his entire gallery of photos so that he's just keeping the bare minimum.
Really, I've never understood the whole I’m-putting-everything-on-Facebook thing. I know I'm an old lady in my 30s, but it's about respect and privacy, two things that never go out of style.
You're right. He's wrong. And your sister is right, too. You can't start dating new people and expect them to smile at your Facebook profile if it's basically a scrapbook of your dating history.
Tell you guy he should take down the pics -- so he doesn't seem like a jerk. And if he doesn't agree, forward him your friend's text. He’s obviously worried what people think of him. He should know how this looks.
And maybe tell him that he doesn't have to replace those pictures with 100 photos of you. Make some memories in real life. Not everything has to be part of the display.
Readers? College readers? Can you shed light on this? Should people leave these pics up? Is it offensive to take them down? Am I right to think that a Facebook profile shouldn't have a bunch of couple photos? How should the LW (and her sister) handle this one? Discuss.
– Meredith
His former friend with benefits
Q: Dear Love Letters,
I need help!
My husband and I were married, then divorced, and have been re-married for six years. During our time apart, he lost his license. He then began hanging out with one of his sister's female friends, who became his chauffeur. Well, one thing led to another and they became friends with benefits. They decided not to pursue a relationship. The problem is, years later, this girl attends every family event hosted by my sister-in-law. She is referred to as "Auntie." I am not jealous -- actually, this girl is unattractive and very loud. The problem is, we are invited to her surprise birthday party. I definitely will not be attending -- it is bad enough that I have to spend time with her at family functions. She is not related to me nor is she my friend. My question is, am I wrong for asking my husband to not attend?
– Don't Want Her Around, Boston
A: This one's tricky, DWHA, because your husband's relationship with Auntie is really about his relationship with his own sister. He's not inviting Auntie to your house for family meals. He's not proud that he knows Auntie. He's seeing Auntie when he sees his sis -- and Auntie seems to be a big part of his sis's life.
My advice is to sit down with your husband and pose this question: "What's the best way for us to deal with Auntie without alienating your sister/family or making me feel awful?" Maybe the answer is to attend parties like this one but to leave within 45 minutes. Maybe the answer is for both of you to skip these events and tell his sister why. Maybe the answer is for your husband to go to these parties for a bit and then meet you after for a great dinner.
Just know that there's no perfect answer. It would be great if his sister approached you and said, "Feel free to skip these parties. I don't want anyone to be uncomfortable." But she's not going to do that. She loves Auntie. And your husband wants to be present for his sibling.
You just have to get through these events with temporary solutions. That's the best you can do. There's one annoying person at every party. There's always someone from the past who shows up to haunt relationships. Don't make it a fight. Take a deep breath and deal with it together, one party at a time.
Readers? Am I wrong? Should he have to skip the party? Does the LW have the right to be upset about Auntie? Are we concerned about the husband's loss of license and the fact that he was using Auntie for rides? Thoughts? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm having dating problems
Last night's pick-up contest was fun. I meant to write down the winning pick-up line but I didn't, and now I can't remember how it goes. It was something about underwear, a watch, and a time machine.
Also, there's a cool date auction thing tonight. I can't go myself, but I happen to know that some Love Letters people are involved.
And ... I love this letter.
Q: Dear Meredith,
These days, I often find myself humming Lady Gaga's "Speechless."
I'm 25, have had a few involvements that were complicated (in the real-life sense of the word, not the Facebook status), but never a real, capital-R relationship. Most of my life, I didn't get much attention from guys, and was not all too happy about it. The first time I asked out a boy, in seventh grade, he said yes and then forgot! Later, he turned out to be gay.
Lately, I've been making an effort to put myself out there -- trying online dating for the first time since college, asking out friends of friends, etc. I've met some interesting characters, including a "Beowulf"-loving Trekkie from Jersey and, no joke, a UPS delivery man. (Yes, there was much innuendo about packages!) But I've also dealt with a string of painful rejections.
The Trekkie and the UPS guy, both of whom I met on OkCupid, came on strong at first. They complimented me a lot and seemed really into me. The Trekkie, with whom I spent four hours talking on our first date, even bought me mini-cupcakes! But they each suddenly lost interest after two dates. If you're wondering, in one case there was some sandwich-making -- not quite a grilled cheese, more like a tuna melt. In the other case, we didn't even kiss. You can probably guess which was which.
Then I met a really cute guy through mutual friends, and we clicked on all the levels. I'm not exaggerating when I say that this was the first time in my life this has happened. We had a wonderful time going to the trampoline park, watching "Firefly," and making bad puns (and no, none of those are euphemisms, although I do enjoy joking about punning linguists). Everything seemed so promising. We were hanging out almost every day, and he was talking about spending time together months down the line.
And then he gave me the "I don't know what I want, I'm in a weird place, I don't want to lead you on, blah blah blah" spiel. It turned out the real reason was that he had met someone else.
I've developed some good coping strategies: crying along to 90s rock (some favorites: "#1 Crush" and "Stupid Girl" by Garbage, "Novocaine for the Soul" by the Eels, "What Do I Have To Do" by Stabbing Westward, "6th Avenue Heartache" by the Wallflowers, "Long December" by the Counting Crows, "Runaway Train" by Soul Asylum"), and smashing tacky Valentine-themed mugs from the dollar store. But I'm still having a rough time.
My question is: how do I hold onto my confidence? How do I fight off the (sometimes overwhelming) urge to become bitter? Will there ever be guys who like me and want to be with me, and if so, how on earth will I be able to believe they really like me?
– Speechless of Somerville (I know Speechless in Somerville would sound better, but I wanted to be SOS!)
A: How do you stay confident, SOS? Let me tell you. There are some 25-year-olds out there who aren't dating at all. There are other 25-year-olds out there who are dating, but can't make a tuna melt with someone to save their life.
You're totally normal. Because getting past the second date at 25 is difficult. Everyone is in a "weird place." Everyone is trading up. Everyone is ... well ... 25.
For some people, dating around is fun. For others (like you), it's a pain. You probably want some instant rewards just for putting yourself out there. It doesn't work that way, which stinks.
You're hilarious. You appreciate the genius that was Joss Whedon's "Firefly." You are wicked smart and know that "Beowulf" is not a "Twilight" character. You like Love Letters and aren’t afraid to break cheap mugs.
I'm not worried about you. I know you'd rather have a great boyfriend than date, but you have to keep dating to get a great boyfriend.
As for believing that someone really likes you when they say they do, well, that's just a question we all have to deal with. There are never any guarantees.
All you can do is keep on truckin'.
Readers? Am I right? Want to date this LW? Want to validate her? Any song suggestions to add to her mix? Advice? Discuss.
– Meredith
I can't break the toxic cycle
Reminders:
The "Mortified" contest is still going on. You have until tomorrow at 11:59 p.m. to enter. I posted details about that contest here.
And, as that entry says, I'll be with "The Bachelorette" guy Chris Lambton at the Cask 'n Flagon tonight for a pick-up line contest. (Wow. I can't believe I just typed that sentence. My fingers actually just curled up in shock.) Chris is a very cool guy, and actually, to promote the event, he'll be doing a chat today at 1 p.m. Feel free to bug him with questions about why he turned down the chance to be "The Bachelor" and about my messy desk. He'll be chatting from here.
Q: I met my now-ex during my freshman year of college. We started dating our junior year. He studied abroad for a semester. I went to visit him. He surprised me with a trip to Paris. We both admitted how "in love" we were.
We dated through the end of college. Mind you, the petty fights, drunken jealously, etc. all got in the way. We stayed together until the dreaded "where do we go from college" stuff set in and it was too much for me to handle.
After much soul searching, I ended it and moved to the city. He also moved to the city -- on his own -- and it only took a few weeks before we found each other again.
Throughout college and into our post-college city lives, we have had the same friends and same nightlife. Ever since we have lived here, it's been an out-of-control routine of seeing each other and then ending it again in the worst imaginable way.
In the process of our breakup, his way to "cope" was to trash my name to family and friends -- anyone who would listen -- but then he'd see me in secret. He would lie to our friends and his family, and I would forgive it because I was focused on trying to fix us, rather than let anyone else get in the way. It wasn't until after the falling outs that I would fully hear all the lies that he was telling. This had always been the routine. We'd see each other for a few weeks and then he would snap and say it wasn't working and that couldn't lie anymore. I encouraged him to just come clean with everyone, but he didn't want to. I'd breakdown, scream, fight, become furious and would be left to pick the pieces, meanwhile none of our friends would know we were even in contact.
I don't pretend to be a victim in this. I know what is right and what is wrong, but when one "I love you" comes out of him, I melt. I'm back at it, the emotional abuse and the one-sided feelings. Most recently, we started contacting each other after spending the summer apart, and he convinced me it was different this time. I was brought around our friends for a short period of time, without secret, before he snapped again and shut me out of his life. All he says is that he loves me but doesn't know what he's doing and why he can't figure out what he wants. There are two antagonists, two victims, and two people who can't seem to let go. And in the two years we've both lived in the city, it has been impossible not to see each other, even if we're not talking, because we travel around with the same large group of people from college.
So my question is, I've done the "give him space" thing, I've done the "I don’t deserve this" emotional roller coaster, but no matter what happens or how I vow to never let him back in my life, we find a way back to each other. What do I do now to stop this toxic routine from continuing? Will he ever figure out what he wants?
– Toxic Roller Coaster, Boston
A: TRC, not long ago (I can't remember when – does anybody else?) we had a letter from a person who couldn't snap out of her routine, and I told her to keep participating in the cycle, because at some point, she'd just get sick of it.
But your circumstances are a bit different. You characterize what you're putting up with as emotional abuse. I just can't condone you sticking around for that. You're also lying to your friends and having your name dragged through the mud. I can't condone sticking around for that either.
My advice is to tell everybody everything. Tell your friends and family every little thing that has happened with this guy in the last two years. Part of your problem has been accountability. If no one knows what's going on, there's no one to be accountable to except yourself. Once you say this stuff out loud, you'll not only have to hear it, you'll have to look at the faces of the people who love you. You'll have to see their concern and disappointment. The people in your circle of friends, assuming that they're good friends, won't want to be out with two people who are being awful to each other. They won't want to let you and the ex anywhere near each other. Right now, no one knows about the cycle of destruction. As soon as they do, they won't want to be a part of it.
After you tell your people what's going on, expand your circle. It's always lonely when you first move to a city, but you've been here for two years now. If you never branch out, you'll never meet new men or new friends. You need both. Join a club. Play some recreational floor hockey. Start creating a world without him.
Readers? How do you break the habit? Why hasn't she told their mutual friends? What's going on here? Discuss.
– Meredith
He's stalling the marriage
It's "Why won't he marry me?" week.
We can discuss during chat at 1.
Q: My boyfriend and I have been dating for about five years and living together for most of that time. We talk about getting married and he has made it clear that he wants to. But not before he has finished his master's degree and secured a more lucrative job. (We are in our late 20s.)
These are both valid reasons, and I understand them. I love him and I'm willing to wait. I've made it clear that marriage and a family is my priority. I've finished my masters and love my job, and I'm willing to wait for him.
And if that were all that was going on I wouldn't be writing in. He hasn't really made any progress in attaining these goals. He talks about it, looks into things, but doesn't follow through. We've talked about this, but I don't really think that he understands how important this is to me. He seems to get defensive and almost annoyed that I'm trying to talk to him about it at all. I can wait if there are goals with real time lines attached to them.
I guess what bothers me the most is that I really just want to be totally OK with waiting. I want a marriage and not a wedding, but I'm genuinely sad about this and I don't know how to make myself be more settled with the wait. Lately, it feels as though I'm ready to get on with everything and he just isn't there yet. We love each other and otherwise have a happy, healthy relationship. How do I make it clear to him how important this is to me, and make myself OK with waiting?
– Sad and confused, Boston
A: SAC, there are two things happening here. 1) You want to get married. 2) Your boyfriend is stuck in a tiny rut. One has something to do with the other, but not everything. If you're asking him to speed up the degree and job so that you can get married, well, I'm not sure that's a huge incentive, especially if he wants to stall his adulthood. If you're asking him to speed up his degree and job for his own sanity, well, that's a different thing. That's just being a good friend.
I'll give you some of the same advice I gave to the letter writer yesterday -- the part about making a list of fun goals. But in your case, I'd also advise that you separate the marriage talk from the degree talk as much as possible. My fear is that everything has become too … tethered. His degree has ceased to be about him getting a degree. It's about getting to the wedding.
My last piece of advice is to start living like you're a married couple. Don't treat your relationship like you've pressed the pause button. Plan big vacations. Buy some plants. Talk about where you would get married/have kids when it happens. If he's unwilling to discuss the future and to do some of the things on the list now (assuming that a few of the items are financially feasible), you've got yourself a bigger issue on your hands. Because waiting on a wedding isn't the same thing as waiting to live a life with someone. There doesn't have to be a party right this second, but your relationship shouldn't feel like one big warm-up.
Readers? Is the wedding too connected to the degree? Should she be confident that he does, in fact, want to marry her? Why is he stalling the degree and job? Should they wait to get married? How can she put herself at ease? Discuss.
– Meredith
He won't talk about it
I don't think this letter writer is lying about being a lawyer. Lots of evidence here.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I'm going to throw out a few disclosures to your readers, just to get some of the obvious concerns/details out of the way:
1. Me: 30, lawyer. "Dave": 32, engineer
2. Dating: a few years, friends prior
3. Live together, generally same values (family, financial, etc.)
Aside from the occasional discord, there are no major "deal-breaker" problems. Then again, there has to be something, otherwise I wouldn't be writing to you. I am certainly in no rush to get married, but Dave and I are floundering and need help moving in that direction.
We are both at the point in our lives where we want to get married. I've "known" since I met him that I wanted to be with him for the rest of my life; as he says, I'm much more in touch with (and likely to discuss and analyze) my emotions than he is. Totally fine. My parents' marriage was -- and continues to be -- awful. My mom used to confide in me a lot when I was growing up (OK, not healthy to do but that's in the past), and I became very aware of relationships at a young age, which carried over into the way I look at relationships today. Dave's parents had similar problems from what I can tell -- they never talked about things, would sneak around with finances, and eventually divorced.
A year or so ago, I started to ask Dave about his future goals, where he wanted to be in life, etc. If he felt the conversation starting to veer into the M-word, he instantly closed up. He admits that he closed up and proposed talking about one or two topics a week before thinking about getting engaged. Excellent, but he hasn't brought up anything over the last six weeks since this conversation came up again.
My questions are two-fold: (1) Do I have to get over myself and take the initiative to broach these topics again? (2) If so, does anyone have recommendations about where to start and what things (other than the obvious family/kids, religion, financials) to talk about? Counseling is probably a good place to start; I'm hesitant to suggest my pastor as Dave does not embrace my faith.
My biggest fear is that I feel like this should be easier to talk about ... and once upon a year ago, I wasn't really afraid to discuss. Perhaps I'm over-analyzing, but I just want to feel like I'm with someone who wants to be with me and is moving toward the same life goals.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
– Wanting to get married without pressuring, Quincy
A: Wow. I love when you read 90 percent of a letter and think that you know everything and then -- boom! -- there's talk of religious differences.
WTGMWP, I don't think that Dave's lack of interest in your faith is a deal-breaker, but it's certainly a big thing. Perhaps religion is on a long list of problems that he doesn't want to discuss because he fears that a conversation will lead to him losing you … or keeping you forever. Both options are understandably scary.
My advice is -- you guessed it -- to get some therapy. Not with your pastor but with a non-religious third-party. I'd also ditch the idea of talking about two marital topics a week. That idea stresses me out big time.
Here's the thing (and please repeat this to Dave using your best lawyer voice): This planning stuff -- it's supposed to be fun. Yes, deciding whether to commit to someone for life is scary, but it's also sort of cool. The planning isn't just about anticipating conflict, it's about choosing where you might want to live with someone, or whether you plan to buy a house with a hot tub. It's about imaging a life with kids -- or what you'll do with your money if you decide not to have them. These talks are supposed to be about figuring out everything you want, not what you don't want.
Get him to a therapist's office so that he can talk about the big stuff in a safe place. But before you do that, sit down with him and make the fun list -- everything from how often you both want to have sex in a marriage to where you'd take vacations. The cool stuff. Don't forget about the good because you're both so worried about the big questions.
Readers? Why doesn't he want to talk about this stuff? How have their families influenced the problem? What do you think of the two-topics-a-week idea? Can the marriage talk ever be fun? Discuss.
– Meredith
I give off the wrong vibes
Remember to put the events I mentioned last week on your calendars.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I'm a 25-year-old woman, and it has been seven years since I've been in a relationship. Not just a serious relationship -- any relationship at all, or any date with a guy I've had positive feelings for. I had a few dates last spring when I was giving online dating a whirl, but they were pretty bleak. I've had a couple -- literally two -- guys ask me out in person in the past seven years, and I wasn't interested in either of them. There have been a handful of guys I have been seriously interested in, but they've been either not interested, already in relationships, or about to start dating my friend (don't even get me started on that one).
As for me: I'm not drop-dead gorgeous, but I'm fairly pretty. I think I'm pretty pleasant to be around. I have an active social circle: I sing in a very social choir; I work at an office full of young people; I live in the city where I went to college and am still close with a lot of college friends. Granted, these aren't all the best ways to meet guys (my co-workers are mainly women, and choirs tend to be weighted towards men who are not interested in women), but I do socialize with a lot of people. Obviously there are a lot of fluky things that can result in dry spells, but it just seems like in such a long period of time, something should have happened with someone.
My conclusion here is that the problem is most likely something I'm putting out there. I'm not very comfortable with guys romantically, not having had further-than-friendship interactions with anyone since my high school relationship ended. If I do have a crush on a guy, I'm not shy about trying to spend time with him. But if I don't already have strong feelings, it's hard for me to flirt in a way that might lead somewhere. I find myself pulling back. I'm not sure that's totally a bad thing -- after all, I don't want to lead people on -- but I'm afraid that my reserve in this regard keeps guys from considering me as a romantic possibility even when I'm perfectly friendly with them. I also get really embarrassed at the idea that other people might think I'm romantically interested in someone. Is there any way I can turn off this scared-of-romantic-interaction vibe? Anything you can tell me to change my mindset? Again, it's not an issue with guys I have feelings for, but that happens really rarely (maybe once every two to three years).
Is there anything I can do besides be patient and hope the next seven years don't go by before something clicks with a guy?
– Needs to Stop the Vibes, Cambridge
A: Don't force yourself to flirt, NTSTV. It'll come off as unnatural. The whole point is to be you, not someone else.
The only thing I want you to work on is your embarrassment about dating. If you're afraid to admit your feelings -- or to fail at love in front of others -- you're going to have a tough time finding a partner. There's no reason to be embarrassed about putting yourself out there. Everybody gets dumped. Everybody gets lonely. Every relationship is a risk.
Start dropping hints to friends that you want to date. Big hints. Maybe go on more online dates. Go on second dates with people who aren't totally awful. Accept the fact that after college, we don't always have the luxury of getting to know someone well before we date them.
Really, I think the "vibe" you're talking about is the embarrassment thing. If you're too embarrassed to show a romantic interest in someone in front of people, it's going to taint your whole aura. (Yeah, I said aura.)
And know this -- if you're limiting yourself to dates with people with he-could-be-the-one potential, those dates aren't going to happen often. Two-to-three year gaps sound normal, unless you're willing to date with a very open mind.
Readers? What's wrong with her vibe? Is seven years a weird dry spell? Am I right about the embarrassment thing being the issue? What can you tell about her from the letter? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm delaying the breakup
Some announcements:
1. On Thursday (Feb. 3), I will be co-hosting a pick-up line contest at the Cask with Chris Lambton, formerly of "The Bachelorette." Why am I doing this? Because every now and then, I love a good train wreck. And because I wrote about Chris. And because … well, train wreck. But if you need something to do that night, come give me moral support. We'll eat nachos. The event is free. (I think it starts at 9.)
2. Feb. 14 (VD) is "Mortified"'s annual love night. Love Letters had a big event with "Mortified" last year, and really, it's one of my favorite shows in this city. This year, they're asking Love Letters readers to send me copies/transcriptions of any old love poem or diary entry about crushes and failed love. The older the better. I'll pick a winner, and that person will read their dated, embarrassing love note on stage during the performance. Even if you don't want to read, you can sit in the audience and giggle. Buy tickets here. Send me submissions to meregoldstein at gmail dot com with "Mortified Love" in the subject line. You have until … oh, let's say, 11:59 p.m. on Friday the 4th to enter.
Q: Hi Meredith!
I have been dating my boyfriend "Jason" for over four years. We met in college and then moved to the same city upon graduation. We live in the same small neighborhood, and our lives are completely intertwined with the same group of friends and activities. I am completely in love with Jason, and he is with me. Our everyday interaction is wonderful; we're constantly laughing, and are both very happy together.
Despite our happiness, we have no long-term future together. I know it sounds crazy after 4 (mostly) great years together, but I've finally been able to open my eyes to this reality in the last 2 months. Our communication styles differ (his is virtually nonexistent), he is far too immature, and underlying family issues have left him with incredibly low self-esteem that make it difficult for him to ever make his own decisions or assert himself in any capacity. These have been ongoing issues throughout our relationship, but after years of struggle to support him, I've finally realized that nothing will change, and I can't settle down with him.
On top of all of this, I just got into graduate school and will be relocating out of state this summer. Although we've briefly discussed moving together, but he's made no effort to prepare. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he is thinking the same thing about our future, but due to his lack of assertiveness, I know I have to be the one to end it. The problem is if I end it now, the next few months will be utterly miserable for both of us. Although we don’t live together, it would be impossible not to see him due to our social circle and our living proximity. I see my departure in June as an easy way out, and I know we could thoroughly enjoy our remaining time together because our everyday life is so great. It is logistically and emotionally easier, but is it a cop-out? Am I being a coward about all of this, or just realistic? And most of all, am I being unfair to him? I envision a simple, not-messy, respectful end to a beautiful relationship in June. But am I creating a bigger mess for the both of us? Please help!
– Time to End It, Jamaica Plain
A: If it were May, even April, I might say, "Oh, just wait a few weeks." If you lived together, I might say, "OK, ride out the lease." But it's January, TTEI. And you don't live together. You need to have a big conversation, at the very least.
You have four very long months before the summer. Four months of confusion. Four months that Jason could be using to plan his life after you leave. Four months that you could be using to learn how to live without him (because I don't think it's going to be easy).
All you need is a discussion. Just tell him that you don't envision staying with him after you leave because as much as you love him, you don't want to spend the rest of your life with him. Cry. Let him cry. Fight. Hug. Deal with your reality together. It's going to be messy no matter what. It's going to be awkward with your mutual friends no matter how you play this. Maybe you'll decide to enjoy your last few months together. Maybe he'll decide he needs space. What matters is that it'll be an honest plan.
You said it best -- he probably knows the truth and is waiting to hear you say it. You have like ... 3,000 hours before June (did I do that math right?). You can't possibly stay silent about this until then.
Readers? Should she wait to end the relationship? Will it be easier to do it now? Would it be easier for him to separate after she leaves? Is she giving up a good thing? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm not in a good place to date
Q: I suppose in order to get genuine and beneficial advice I have to be brutally honest with myself. So, despite how difficult that can be, here it goes.
I am a single, never married man, rapidly approaching my 32nd birthday. The last half a decade has been both brutal and enlightening. I have gone from being an extremely successful financial professional in my 20s, to a struggling, in transition, professional in my 30s. After years of international travel, complete independence, and immeasurable experience, I am now between careers, living back at home, and digging my way out of bankruptcy.
Perhaps most troubling is that even when I was "on top of the world," I couldn't find the right woman. I have met and dated some beautiful, kind, and decent women. However, the biggest trouble is that I am an introvert and that I do not agree with the consumption of alcohol. In my opinion, the affects of alcohol are like any other drug, and they give irresponsible people a "get out of jail free card" for their often reckless behavior. I have found that most unmarried women in their 20s and 30s prefer bars, clubs, and concerts. I am a man who prefers museums, exercise, the opera, and quiet restaurants. I am who I am.
Whether it be online dating, common friends, or random acts of introduction, nothing has worked for me. So, my question is this: once I get my financial and professional life back in order (which may take years), which avenues to meeting women could I pursue that perhaps I have overlooked or previously disregarded?
– Sober, Bankrupt, and Befuddled, New Hampshire
A: I'm not answering this letter because I know of a magic place where you can find the right woman. I don't. (Although, I'm pretty sure that the Boston Symphony Orchestra has "Under 40" specials, as do many of the other classed-up artistic groups in town -- like this one.)
I'm answering this letter, SBB, because we need to chat about your self-esteem -- and your reality. I get that you're poor and living like a college kid, but you can't put off meeting people until you're comfortable with your place in life. You can't say, "I won't be ready for years!"
We're all works in progress. Some of us want to lose a few pounds, but when we finally do, we're out of a job. When we finally get jobs, we notice our receding hair lines. Rarely are we awesome in every way, all at once.
My advice is to make a list of everything you offer right now -- humility, the ability to be thoughtful, good taste … the list should keep going. You're not the only one who's not on top of the world right now. Don't take yourself out of the running. Go out, hang in the library, and sit in coffee shops. If you see a woman you like, approach.
And try to keep an open mind. I won't argue with you about alcohol -- you're entitled to your own set of beliefs and priorities -- but try not to be too severe about how you present your opinions, especially when you first meet someone. Just a tip.
Readers? Is he allowed to take himself out of the running? Am I wrong to say that he should put himself out there when he's not happy with himself? Thoughts on sober dating? Know how he can meet the right women? Tips? Discuss.
– Meredith
She didn't give me a reason
Chat at 1. And I promise to be there.
Q: This girl and I had been dating for about 10 months and things were starting to get serious. We loved hanging out. We were consistently on the phone with each other when one of us was out of town for business or vacation. We spent each night at my place or hers. We talked about taking the next step.
Then, two months ago, I was over at her place. We had just made some dinner and were on the couch watching a movie. I noticed that she was being unusually quiet. When I asked what was up, she started bawling her eyes out. Completely out of left field. When I asked what was wrong she gave me an "it's not you it's me" kind of response. She said, "I don't know if I can keep you happy." We had been dating for 10 months -- I don't think I would have been with her that long if that was the case!
After that, the friends I had met her through asked what had happened. My response? I have no idea. After putting some thought into it, I came up with three theories: 1. She is a career-driven woman and wants to focus on that; 2. She is really confused and doesn't know what she wants; and 3. There is some one else. Our mutual friends say I should rule out that third option because she would never do that to me.
Since that night two months ago, she has sent me e-mails and the occasional text message. Normal stuff – "How was your holiday," etc. Being polite, I do respond. Then there's no response for a few week, then I get another e-mail.
Should I respond to these e-mails? Should I just let this die? Mind you, I still have not received a solid response about why she wanted to break it off. This is why I am bloody confused.
– Bloody Confused, Quincy
A: I'm also bloody confused, BC, but I like your three theories. My guess is that it's No. 2 or 3.
My advice is to send her an e-mail explaining what's going on in your head. Something like, "Hey there -- I'm sort of a mess, not knowing exactly what happened with us. I'd appreciate a real answer, even if it hurts my feelings. And I hope you understand that because of our break-up, I just need space without e-mails and texts."
If she writes back, take it from there. If not -- or if she gives you the same vague breakup lines -- assume theory No. 2 is correct and accept that her emotional status isn't going to change.
I'm sorry it ended this way, and she owes you so much more than tears and confusing statements. But please, unless she shows up asking for forgiveness, let this go. The answer is that she isn't giving you what you need anymore, so you mourn and start looking for someone else.
And if you're really going nuts, get your friends on the case. Yes, it puts them in the thick of an awkward conflict, but that's what friends are for. Sometimes you just need a good middle man.
Ugh. A note to everyone: when you break up with someone, tell them why -- so they don't have to send this letter.
Readers? How do you move on without a reason? Is the letter writer missing a theory? What's the meaning of her texts and e-mails? Should the letter writer involve the mutual friends? Is that too much to ask? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm having trust issues
Here are the winners of the Love Letters Second Anniversary Cotton Contest. And here's today's letter ...
Q: I have been dating my boyfriend for two years. He is very attentive, takes me away on vacation with his family, and is never disrespectful. However, I have a big trust issue that I can't seem to get over.
When we first started dating we got really close really fast. He would text me all day and I just assumed we were exclusive. But I found out that at a party, he hooked up with a girl, who, get this, went shopping with me for my outfit on my first date with him. Go figure! Anyway, I stopped being friends with her. I found out about their hook-up from a friend because we went to a small college and I confronted him. We weren't technically exclusive so I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt and continue with things.
Throughout our relationship I have seen his friends cheat on their girlfriends so many times, and I couldn't help but think they would urge my boyfriend to do the same. However, I always thought he was different.
Then I saw a message between my boyfriend and his friend after he started an internship months ago. In the message, he told his friend that a new girl had started working with him and that she was hot, but too bad because she lives with her boyfriend. Well sir, you have a girlfriend too, and it's me! That was the last I heard about her and I don't think anything happened.
He's a big partier and a huge flirt. It's what I love about him -- and fear about him. A few months ago, a friend randomly called me and told me not to trust my boyfriend because he saw him hook up with this girl I used to think he flirted with. I remembered that night and how the next day he came over to my place and didn't say anything to me, just got right back into bed with me. We almost broke up when I found out, but for some reason I decided to keep with it because he begged me not to end it.
My friends all see how much he loves me, and I know it too. It's hard to talk to anyone about it because they just see one side of things, but inside I'm so exhausted from worrying about this. I recently saw a Facebook picture of him dancing with this girl and I keep thinking of all the times he was away with his friends on vacation, what was he really doing?
If he can call me up the next day after he kissed a girl (in front of people we knew) and pretend like nothing happened, how many other times did he do that?
I just want to be free from all those thoughts of him cheating. It could be my own insecurities at this point, but any advice helps.
– Mary, Boston
A: Strike 1: The text to the friend. I mean, it could have been a joke -- my married/committed friends and I certainly kid around about cute new co-workers (not at the Globe, of course) -- but his text rubbed you the wrong way. It didn't seem playful. It's a mini strike.
Strike 2: The call from the friend who told that you that your boyfriend was spotted with someone else. That's a major strike. Major. He did something terrible in front of people you know. So much for never being disrespectful.
Strike 3: The Facebook picture. I mean, come on. At the very least, have the courtesy to de-tag yourself.
I don't doubt that he loves you, Mary, but he's not ready to be in an exclusive relationship. And that's fine. He's young, right? What isn't fine is that he's lying to you about his intentions. What isn't fine is your exhaustion.
You can stay with him, look the other way, and hope that he grows out of this -- or you can do the tough thing and tell him that there's not enough trust to continue the relationship. He'll probably argue with you because he certainly doesn't want to lose you, but pay attention to your gut. And to Facebook. In this case, it speaks the truth.
You're not being paranoid or unnecessarily insecure. You're getting phone calls from people who have seen your boyfriend with others. You're like … Carmela Soprano. That's not cool.
You're tired. Give yourself a break. Being single is actually far less draining than being in a relationship that has you doubting yourself. You said it best -- you want to be free.
Readers? Read her first paragraph and remember that it's not all bad. How can she walk away from the bad without being miserable about losing the good? If she stays with him, will his party attitude eventually go away? Is this an age issue? Is there any reason to stay? Ever received a phone call from a stranger about your partner's bad behavior? Discuss.
– Meredith
Will he come around?
Lots of unrequited love this week.
Q:Hi Meredith,
I met "Brad" 10 years ago at work. We worked together for two years. After that, he and I remained friends and then became more. We had a very close romantic relationship for a couple of years, then broke up because he couldn't/wouldn't move forward (live together, become engaged, etc.). After a couple of months, he wanted me back and promised to work at his commitment issues because he couldn't imagine a future without me. Then, after about a 6 months together, he stopped being physical with me. His reason for this was "physical/emotional issues." He didn't want to break up but refused to get any help or even to discuss it with me. So after almost a year of this, I felt I had no choice but to end the relationship. It broke my heart.
We've now been apart for three years (and are now in our 40s) but because there is so much love there, we managed to remain close friends. I have dated other people, but "Brad" has not had a girlfriend since me. We've truly been best friends. We hang out and talk for hours. It's like we're together except for the physical part. I've always been in love with him, it never stopped, and finally told him about a year ago that I wanted to try us again. He said he had to think about it. Then finally said that he was too afraid of losing me forever if we tried a relationship again and it didn't work, and that he's got too many "issues" to chance it. He's not happy with himself or his professional/financial situation to be with anyone. He said he couldn't bear to lose me, and I couldn't imagine my life without him in it after all these years. But it became too difficult for me to remain his friend while hoping it would turn into more. I kept thinking that he'd change his mind and realize how crazy it is that we're not together. He didn't. So I told him I had to stay away from him for a while so I can get over the romantic feelings I have.
How can one get over someone if they see him and talk to him all the time? He says I'm his best friend and he can't live without me ... but I don't know what to do. I'm not sure I believe the reasons he's given me for not wanting to try us again, which makes me angry to think he may not be being honest with me. "Brad" does have some issues. He's 44 and has never married, engaged, or even lived with anyone. And again, hasn't dated since he and I broke up …
I'd love to know your thoughts on this. Should I try to stay away completely? Should I hang in there with hopes he'll come around? We were friends first, and then it changed ... Couldn't it again?
– Not Sure What To Think, Massachusetts
A: I can't read Brad's mind, NSWTT. I wish I could. But I can read your mind, thanks to your letter. You want a real romantic partner, not a best friend. You've told us that you can't be Brad's friend without wanting more. You've told us that it's too painful to maintain the status quo.
I think you know the answer to your question. You just don't like it.
My advice is to tell Brad that even though he can't live without you, you can't live with him like this. If at 44 he has no plans to fix himself -- even if ignoring his physical/emotional/financial issues means losing you -- well, you're better off moving on.
I'm sorry, though. And I do wish I could read his mind. But let's just focus on your mind for now. Brad has given you a decade of questions. You're allowed to give yourself a final answer. And Brad needs to know that what's happening now is not sustainable.
Readers? Unlike yesterday's letter, this love seems … requited in some ways ... but not the most important ones. Should she hold out? What's wrong with Brad? Is his age relevant? Discuss.
– Meredith
Missing someone who is far away
Chat at 1.
Q:Hi Meredith,
I wish the LL gang existed when I was living in Boston a few years ago! Thanks for lots of great, practical, sane advice! ;-)
I wondered if you could offer me some. I should probably preface my question by telling you that my heart has been lost to movies like "Once", "Anne of Avonlea," "A Little Romance," "Roman Holiday," and "Best of Youth." I must be a dinosaur in disguise.
I wrote in once to the Wednesday chats as "faraway friend." The friend in question was my old housemate who's American but is now working in another country. We were housemates and good friends for a year and have been long-distance friends for several years. FF is very open-hearted. When we were housemates, he mailed my Netflix movies off for me in the middle of the night when I had to run to the airport, got dressed up and went trick-or-treating with me, let me check out books with his library card ... you get the idea. I couldn't find the courage to tell him how I felt, even after he moved out of the house. So we became pen pals and grew closer through e-mail. He writes with flair and warmth and we swapped stories happily, without sharing anything too personal.
Then, about a year ago, FF came to town on his way to see another friend. We had an amazing six hours together -- walking by the water, talking, having dinner, swapping more stories. The instant when he bear-hugged me when we first saw each other is one that I carry with me every day. I felt like we did share a "moment" ... that lovely speck of time when you look at each other and connect and smile in a way that's almost too good to be true. But maybe I'm wrong. Our e-mails continued in the same way following the visit -- no significant changes. Just nice, warm stories like before.
So finally, a few months ago, I e-mailed him to tell him how I felt. More months went by -- no response. Then I dropped him a quick note to say hi, tell him not to worry and that I understood, and share a few happy words about my job. Still nothing. Then, before Christmas, I dropped his sister a note on Facebook to ask her what I should do. I've never met her but have heard a lot about her. It's been weeks and I haven't heard from her either. I have to admit that although I didn't expect him to share my feelings, I thought he would write back because even in situations where he didn't have reliable Internet access, he always wrote back.
I am having trouble letting go and moving on. I am in my early 30s and have been single for most of my life. I have had a lot of unrequited love and close friendships with guys who liked me very much but either were taken or didn't feel "that way" about me. (I don't think FF has dated a whole lot either.) I enjoy my job, my friends and my family very much and have pretty much everything I could ask for in life. But I am striking out big time in love.
I don't believe that there's just one person out there for each of us. But I have trouble understanding how God (or the powers that be) could have put such a splendiferous sweetheart in my path without having great dreams and hopes for us.
Thank you so much for any advice you can share.
– Missing Faraway Friend
A: MFF, thank you for sharing your favorite movies. They mess with your head, don't they? Did you know that the real-life couple in "Once" broke up? They did. They're just friends now, as far as I know. There's your reality.
Let's consider some of my favorite romantic films, the ones on my list from December. In "Say Anything," Lloyd Dobler makes his intentions clear very quickly. He asks her out on a date. "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" is about two people who have already been together. And in "Twilight," the guy/vampire proclaims his love (and takes his top off) within the first half of the film.
My point is, romance doesn't have to involve years of pining. The years without your ex-roommate fueled your natural inclination to imagine him as something he wasn't. He was a lovely, fun friend who did fantastic, creative things with you when you shared a home. He possessed qualities you'd want in a romantic partner -- someone who can dress up on Halloween and mail your movies.
But now he's gone and has made it clear that he can't reciprocate your feelings. That doesn't mean that you're supposed to romanticize him even more. It means that you're supposed to ask friends to set you up, or do some online dating -- whatever will make it possible to have a few outings with suitors whose intentions are clear from the start.
You're not crazy for thinking there was something there, but now he's just a faraway ex-roommate. Go watch some movies about love that blossoms quickly. And then consider the lesson you learned from all of this -- that it's worth disclosing your romantic feelings when you have them. Get answers when you can. There's no point in waiting.
Readers? How can she stop thinking about him? Can you give her some respectful reality? What does it mean that he didn't write back? Will she hear from him? Would you mail Netflix for any old friend? Anyone waited years for unrequited love? Discuss.
– Meredith
Advice about advice
Q:Dearest Meredith,
Love the column. Even after moving away from Boston, still check back regularly to read LL. My question is one of tact. This is something that comes up all the time, for me and I think anyone who has friends.
The situation: my friend has a problem with her relationship/significant other. She (could be he as well) tells me in detail about the problem: the fight, the bad behavior, etc. I respond with my honest advice. Sometimes that honest advice is hurtful. I do not believe in sugarcoating my response with responses like "Maybe he was just having a bad day." Or "He didn’t mean it when he called you a ____." To me, there are things that are intolerable. They include name-calling, flipping out for no explained reason, never taking responsibility, to name a few. I have even told one friend flat out that her boyfriend was making her miserable and she should break up with him. She eventually did and is happier than ever.
The problem: I hear other friends give advice that is very sugarcoated, which I know it is not their honest opinion. They say they do this because it is not tactful to be honest about their friend's relationship.
What is the right thing to do? Risk hurting your friends by telling them what you really think? Or let them come to their own understanding, without your honest advice?
Thank you!
– Trying to Be a Good Friend, New York
A: TTBAGF, there's a big difference between empathy and dishonesty. There's a huge difference between helpful discussion and unnecessarily tough love. There's a way to give advice without bossing someone around or pretending that you know the answers.
I struggle with this one daily. It's my job.
Almost every letter I get is from a person whose relationship isn't meeting their expectations. I could boil every answer I give down to: "Break up," "Stay together because you're over-reacting," or "Suck it up and stay single."
But I can't answer letters that way. Because every problem is unique. And because all relationships go through bad patches. It's impossible to know whether two people who have a rocky start will eventually become the strongest couple on the block. It's impossible to know whether the best partner ever is going to become the person who has a Facebook affair. The goal isn't to tell our friends what they should do because we know better. It's to help them figure out what they want to do -- what's best for them based on what they're experiencing.
My advice about giving advice is to ask questions. As in, "How are you feeling about the relationship? Tell me about the good stuff. What are you getting out of it? Is the name-calling something that's OK for you? Why do you think he/she continues that behavior?"
Just ask, ask, ask. Quote your friends back to themselves (that's something I do all of the time, right?) Sometimes it's more effective for us to hear our own words than someone else's.
Keep your tone supportive and calm. And admit that you don't know any definitive answers. Because you're not a psychic.
You're right -- sugar-coating and false validation is lame, but so is pretending that you know exactly what to do. Remember, you don't see everything. You're just a spectator to these people's relationships. Ask questions to fill in the blanks. Help them get to there on their own.
That's what I'd do if I could sit down with letter writers. Wouldn't that be nice?
Readers? How do you give love advice? I'm curious to hear from regular commenters. Do you give advice in person the way you do on Love Letters? Is it safe or fair to tell someone to break up with a partner? Does it put friendships at risk? How tough is tough love supposed to be? Discuss.
– Meredith
I should have kept my mouth shut
Q:Dear Meredith,
I so should have read the recent cheating letter and the advice that was given in the forum. I made the brutal mistake of telling my new boyfriend about my past infidelity with my ex-boyfriend. Needless to say, he did not take it well and has pretty much ended things with me. Let me give you a little background …
Four years ago, I was in a long-distance relationship with the ex. In some not-so-proud moments of unhappiness, I cheated on him and never told him. Eventually, for other reasons, he left me. I was devastated, single at 30, and knew that it was time to focus on myself.
The new man in my life came around at a great time. He has his own past, which includes a broken engagement (he called it off), but for the past month (yes, we've only been dating a month) we have been nothing but open and honest with each other. I've never felt so happy or at ease with anyone before in my life. I know he feels (or felt) the same way. We have talked about the future and both acknowledge that we are very lucky to have found each other.
The other night while eating dinner, he went fishing for some information about my past to make sure that I was over my ex. I told him in a non-confrontational way that I was over him and that while I regret it, I did cheat on my ex four years ago. He freaked out, barely spoke to me, but spent the night at my house in a very awkward silent state. I tried talking to him but he didn't want to hear anymore.
An hour after her left, I get an e-mail from him saying that he's calling off a weekend away and is not responding to any of my texts, e-mails, or phone calls. Now I know I'm not a bad person. I made some stupid mistakes when I was younger that I regret. I do not believe in "once a cheater, always a cheater." I was very unhappy four years ago and I do not think that my past should be any indication of who I am and my future. I've been spending time in therapy to ensure just that, and I really do believe that if I'm going to have a future with someone, that they should know the good, the bad, and the ugly.
New boyfriend doesn't see it that way, wishes I never told him, and has more or less ended things with me in a very immature way. Should I give him more space and let him come to me? I don't want to grovel anymore for something I did four years ago to someone else but recognize that what I did in my past has freaked him out. I do know that his previous relationship may have given him some trust issues. I've already sent him a long e-mail trying to give him as much insight to the situation as possible and have asked to not end things based on my past. So far, I've heard nothing from him. Is this totally doomed?
– Should Have Read Love Letters First, Boston
A: Well, SHRLLF, you're certainly learning about each other. He learned something about you that he didn't like. And now you know something awful about him. He's not forgiving. He made you regret your honesty. And he ended things with you in an immature way.
I don't want you to be sad that you told him about the cheat. Because telling him was what felt right to you. The guy who's right for you would want that kind of honesty. He'd be open to someone who has learned from her mistakes and isn't afraid to talk about them.
My thought? It has only been a month. At a month, we're still looking for reasons to forgive each other's flaws, not vilify each other. If he can't deal with your truth, better he knows it now. And the fact that he wishes you hadn't been honest with him -- well, that's pretty telling, isn't it? You've dealt with your past -- in therapy. He hasn't.
You've done all you can. You've told him that you want to keep dating and that you're not looking to betray him. If this relationship is doomed, it's not your fault. If he hasn't responded in a week, start picking up the pieces.
And for the record, yes, you should always read Love Letters first, but in this case, I'm happy you didn't. I'm glad you told him.
Readers? Should she wait a week to hear from him? Is he right to ditch her? Was she wrong to tell him? Would this have lasted had she not told him? Thoughts? Discuss.
– Meredith
He ditched me on New Year's
You have through the weekend to send me a photo of yourself in cotton to celebrate the second anniversary of Love Letters. Send here. I want hot elastic pants photos.
Q:Dear Meredith,
I am a single mom in the process of a divorce. It was a terrible marriage (more than 10 years) with a lot of lying, cheating, and manipulation on my ex's part. I stayed for years for the kids but eventually made the right decision to leave. When the separation happened I spent the time with my children, family, and close girlfriends just hanging out and having a good time. Months later, I decided to try a little online dating. I dated a few guys once or twice until I met "Michael." There was just something about him that intrigued me and we instantly had a great connection. Michael is a little older, divorced, and does not have any children.
We started seeing each other about 1-3 times a week on a regular basis. We had two little setbacks where he sort of retreated and stopped contact for a few days. When he did this it was painful because he just sort of goes into a man cave to process and leaves me to wonder what happened. We spent a good deal of time together around Christmas (he met my children for the first time) and he was very generous and thoughtful about the gifts he gave me. Things seemed fine throughout the week but he never made a plan for New Year’s Eve. He was extremely busy at work (he owns his own business) that week. When I finally suggested getting together he told me that he was tired from the holidays and was basically out of commission until after the holiday.
He resurfaced after New Year's, but I'm trying to determine if he is just not that interested in me or if his lifestyle of a bachelor who can come and go as he pleases has more to do with it. He can be somewhat self-absorbed. I think that if he was really into me he would have wanted to spend some time together on NYE or would have at least contacted me. Any other weekend to retreat seems okay and I understand needing privacy and alone time. It just seems like it was very insensitive to do this on NYE. I plan on discussing it with him, but I am wondering if I should just end it with him. He is a great guy in every aspect and I truly adore him except for this one really bad habit. I'm afraid of falling in love with him and ending up hurt every time he retreats with no warning. I believe this is more about him than me, but every time he does it, it hurts. And to do it on a special holiday hurt even more. We have been together for about 4 months so it is really early in the relationship, but it is a pretty established relationship as well. If things progress I am not sure I can tolerate this behavior for me or my children. I'm not so brushed up on bachelors and how they think and operate. Do I end things or is this salvageable?
– Disappointed On New Year's Eve, Boston
A: Some people are weird about the holidays, DONYE. Some people are weird about alone time. And they're allowed to be -- even when they're in a relationship -- as long as they respect their partners. They're supposed to explain themselves and keep their significant others in the loop. Your guy is retreating whenever he wants, without considering your feelings. You said it best -- you don't want to tolerate that kind of behavior. So don't.
The talk is necessary. My guess is that you've been somewhat honest -- but maybe too polite about the subject. At four months, you're allowed to say, "I don't tolerate this, so clue me in. You're in or you're out. Your disappearances make me feel awful."
My hope is that he rallies and realizes that there's a difference between taking space and disappearing. Because being a bachelor doesn't entitle a person to be a jerk. He has a routine, but so do you. You're respecting his. You just want to understand it.
Talk to him and then go with your gut.
Readers? Any chance this guy is the right guy for the letter writer? Is this just a bachelor thing that can be overcome? Is she asking for too much after four months? What does it mean that he wanted alone time on New Year's? Discuss.
– Meredith
I want kids
And she doesn't.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I'm involved in a serious and stable relationship with a remarkable woman whom I fell head over heels in love with, and she with me. Our relationship has only gotten stronger with time. I can honestly say I'm the happiest I've ever been, and she tells me she is, too. We're living together, and we've talked about getting engaged, settling down, and everything seems great. But I wouldn't be writing you if everything was perfect, right?
Being open and honest with each other has never been a problem for us, so when the subject of having kids some day down the road came up (almost jokingly at first), I gave my honest opinion on the matter. I've always loved kids and I've always known that I wanted to have at least one kid. I told her that I thought we'd make fantastic parents. I also stressed that I was in no rush, as we both have some things we want to accomplish before that time. But when the time was right X-number of years down the road, I would be very open to the idea. When I asked for her opinion, I got a very different answer. Her response was that she never EVER wanted to have children. When I asked her why, she got very defensive. She says that she just doesn't "like" kids and that she has so much in her life she wants to accomplish she can't possibly see how kids can factor in to any of it.
Over the period of a few months, I've gently broached the subject a few more times, hoping her opinion would soften a bit. In fact, it's just the opposite. She's turned even colder to the idea. She says she respects my desire to have kids someday. She says that she loves me and wishes she could feel the same way, but she just doesn't and will never want to have children.
I'm at a loss of what to do. I'm happy in every other aspect of our relationship but this, and it's become a big roadblock for me. Do I stay the course and hope that someday she will change her mind? What if she doesn't? If I have to choose one or the other, I will be heartbroken either way. If I stay with her, and she remains true to her word, it could mean giving up on a dream that I've had for my entire life. If I leave her, I will be leaving the greatest relationship of my life, and a dear friend and counterpart. All over the concept of a "theoretical baby" that I might have someday.
I guess I have to decide whether the desire for this "theoretical baby" is more important than the factual great relationship I already have. I'm doing my best to respect her feelings, but the eternal optimist in me wants to believe that as our relationship grows, she'll change her mind. I hope so because I don't want to lose her, or my dream of having a family.
– Unsure What to Do, Boston
A: "Do I stay the course and hope that someday she will change her mind?"
No, UWTD. She has been incredibly clear. She's not going to change her mind. If you stick around, you have to be comfortable with the idea of no kids -- ever.
Your letter suggests that this theoretical baby isn't so theoretical. You want one. That's why you keep bringing it up.
You're allowed to be an optimist, but you also have to be a realist. If you want a family, there are people out there who can give it to you. Women who share your goals. Women who want a baby with a nice partner. Your girlfriend sounds wonderful, but when family is on the line, wonderful just isn't enough.
My advice is to tell her that you’re not sure that you can live without a baby. You've been having theoretical discussions about the issue, but it's time to have a real one. After some honest talk about plans for the next five years, the answer should be clear.
Shared goals are just as important as timing and all of the other things that go into finding love. You can't go into this crossing your fingers and hoping for a change down the road. (Sorry.)
Readers? Will she change her mind? Should the letter writer ask her to? Is there anyway to get around the children issue? Discuss.
– Meredith
Should I keep in touch?
Q: I kind of feel like a fool for being so saddened over this particular issue, but it's weighing heavily on my mind.
I met this guy online about a 1 or 2 months ago and we hit it off e-mailing and texting. We finally met up in person and it was great! There was no awkwardness, no weird silent moments, just great conversation and laughs. We had a wonderful kiss at the end, which led to us hanging out more. I saw him 2 or 3 more times in the same weekend, and we ended up sleeping together. This in and of itself is a major feat for me. I have a lot of issues regarding intimacy so the fact that I was so comfortable with him to be able to do that speaks volumes to me about what was happening between us.
Then, out of the blue, he e-mails me. He can't see me anymore. He's going through a lot of personal issues and trying to become more stable etc. He told me his whole long story about his past and why he is where he is now and why this can't work right now. He ended the email saying "maybe in a few months, when I'm more stable, we can try this again." I understand where he's at, and more than appreciate his honesty. He said in the message that he "really, really liked" me and I feel the same.
I'm willing to let him work himself out, but I'm terrified he's not going to remember me, or he'll meet someone else on his journey. So do I just let him go completely? Or do I try to maintain an element of friendship with occasional text messages? I'm not sure how to play this out. I don't want him to forget about me so I feel like a few texts here and there will remind him I still exist, but would that be too much for him? I don’t know what to do, but I'm completely heartbroken right now.
– Saddened in Somerville
A: How disappointing, SIS. He pulled the rug out from under you, and it was a beautiful rug. It was a rug he put there himself. It was one of those soft rugs that feel good on your feet. And now you're stuck on hard wood. Without warning. You deserve better.
My advice is to cut this off. Don't do the "I'm-pretending-to-be-breezy-but-I-really-want-you-back" thing. It gets you nowhere, and every time you text him, you'll be obsessing over his replies, assuming he sends them.
You can tell him that you're open to hearing from him in a few months, but don't count on it. Even if he shows up, will you be able to trust him? Do you really understand why he bailed? Because I don't. I mean, we all feel unstable and weird sometimes. But it's possible to work through that with someone else in the picture. I'm not sure what difference a few months will make.
Send an e-mail explaining that you get the message and that he's welcome to reach out whenever he's ready. Then start living like he won't. As for him forgetting you, it won't happen. If he doesn't return, it's because his issues are bigger than the both of you. He should be worried that you're going to forget him. And I sort of hope that you do.
Readers? Should she continue any communication? How can she be less saddened in Somerville? Do you buy his reasoning for vacating? Will he return in a few months? Discuss.
– Meredith
Is this worth it?
Keep the cotton entries coming.
Q: I have been dating my boyfriend "Kurt" for about five months now. He's charming, clever, and very kindhearted. Having been dumped by a somewhat (emotionally) abusive boyfriend half a year before, he is a breath of fresh air. The only problem is, I don't know where this relationship is going.
Kurt and I met through his sister, who is also my best friend. There was definitely a strong connection initially, but the need to rush things forced itself upon us on account he was leaving to study a semester abroad for the next three months. While there, he informed me that two days before he left, he cheated on me with his ex-girlfriend. I forgave him, keeping in mind that we made the mistake of "falling" too fast due to the time constraint. We got back together a month before he came back to the US.
He's back home now and everything seems to be going extremely smoothly. He hasn't been speaking with his ex-girlfriend and when he does it's only to check in on her (she has an illness, which complicates this even more). He's three years older than me and attends a different college than I intend to. He goes back to school in less than a month and that scares me. A few nights ago, he said something on the lines of, "I don't take this relationship as seriously as previous ones [such as the one when he was engaged to a girl, but not the girl he cheated on me with] because it hasn't matured to its potential. It'd be five years until we actually had a stable relationship and could live together. But I want to do whatever I can to make this work."
Can we make this work? Should I push through this and see what happens? What if I can't trust him while he's at school? Is this a waste of my time?
Please Help Me, Meredith!
– Flustered in Framingham
A: Five years, FIF? I'm sad to say that Kurt is probably right. You can't get serious now because of distance. Even if you could, he just doesn't seem ready.
My advice is to keep dating him -- because you want to -- but take three big steps back in your head. Tell him that based on trust, distance, and school, you'll both just have to take this day-by-day. It'll be difficult to ease up on the commitment, for sure, but he's going away and so are you. You're having your boundaries set for you.
You asked whether this is a waste of time. It isn't. But that doesn't mean you'll be together forever. Love is a worthy experience, even when it doesn't last. So is dating. All you can do is make daily decisions about whether you're getting something out of your relationship with him, or whether staying with him is making you feel worse about life.
I think I said this last week, but sometimes you just have to let a relationship play out. You can't jump ahead and get answers until you're sure you know what you want. A resolution will come in time. Enjoy him while he's around.
Readers? Am I right to say that they should keep dating until the answers become clear? What do you think of Kurt telling her they can't be serious and that he has cared about other people more? Discuss.
– Meredith
Women my age don't want me
I'm still taking submissions for my cotton contest for the second anniversary of Love Letters. You can submit photos here. Or to meregoldstein at gmail dot com. Still waiting for someone to send the perfect elastic pants photo ...
Q: Hi,
I think I'll start with some background on who I am because I know people like to take that information into account when giving their advice. I'm a 23 y/o male. I am lucky enough to have a great job that is fulfilling and pays the bills well. In general, I have a good head on my shoulders for a 23 y/o, and I know that I have a lot of things going for me, which is basically the source of my problem (which may seem trivial but I think it is probably common).
I had a girlfriend for almost three years who I love very much (yes, read present tense). It ended because we are going in different directions. I'm building a professional career and I want to do it now. She wants to travel and put off a career as long as possible. I think there are merits to both directions, but she felt that pulled us apart too much. Some days I agree with her, some days I don't. We have seen each other a handful of times since we broke up and it's like it never ended. There is still a lot of love, which I think might be contributing to my problems.
Now, to my problem, I'm pretty sure that I am a very attractive guy and I don't have much trouble finding girls. I'm outgoing and I meet a lot of people. The problem is I don't think I am meeting the quality of woman that I want. I'm not happy with the girls who have been part of the pajama parties, and I have trouble having them sleep over because I miss my ex. I think I have a couple key issues that I need help with in order to find the quality women I am looking for. A) I'm still very much in love with a woman I cannot have, and B) I do not know where to find the girls I am looking for. The bar scene is not any good for meeting girls because even though I have a good time, I cannot talk to them with loud music, and, well, everyone knows how that scene is.
Twenty-three is also a weird age. Females like older guys. I don't feel comfortable venturing into the college scene anymore so I'm meeting mostly 24-25-year-olds. I do not accept the idea that "you're young, it's OK" because I may be young but I'd be much happier if I could meet some good people more regularly.
– Stuck in a Rut, Boston
A: SIAR, my first piece of advice is to avoid your ex-girlfriend. Seeing her even a handful of times is too difficult right now. Give yourself space.
My second piece of advice is to do some online dating. Seek out women who seem to be looking for something real. Because you're right -- the real problem with your ex wasn't that you didn't get along. It was that she wanted to be 23-year-old free spirit while you wanted to be a 23-year-old grown up. Find the grown-ups online.
My third piece of advice is to woo those older women. For whatever reason, you're a nester. There's nothing wrong with that. But a lot of women your age are still out there exploring the world. I know for a fact that there are plenty of 23-year-old women who want to settle down, but I'm even more confident that if you sought out 26-year-olds, you'd be overwhelmed by your options. Let them get to know you.
My fourth piece of advice is to have patience. Not because you're young, but because you were in love. Sometimes it takes a long time (years) to find someone you like as much as an ex. It's supposed to be difficult. If it were easy, we'd be too tempted replace our significant others all of the time. We're supposed to feel incredibly lucky that we found them in the first place. The pain of loss helps. It keeps us honest.
Readers? Should he date older women? Is he ready to date at all? Is the ex still in the picture? Thoughts about women wanting to date older men? Would a 26-year-old date a 23-year-old guy? Is online dating an answer? Discuss.
– Meredith
He got naked with others
As I mentioned yesterday, Jan. 22 is the second anniversary of Love Letters. To celebrate, I’m asking people to send me pictures of themselves wearing cotton -- because I am told that cotton is the traditional gift for second anniversaries. I want to see people in cotton pajamas. Cotton sweats. Cotton sheets with belts around them. The best entry of the bunch gets a prize. You can e-mail photos to meregoldstein at gmail dot com, or upload them here. As I said yesterday, I don't even need to see faces. Just cotton.
And as promised, here's the naked hot tub letter.
Q: Hi, Meredith.
I'll start this query in the usual fashion by saying that my boyfriend "Tom" and I have been together for a year and a half and have a great relationship. We are both in our mid-20s, educated, hard-working, and very affectionate with each other. We have discussed moving in together once I finish grad school in a few months. I have no doubts that we love each other and share a great friendship, but I'm having trouble getting over something that happened last week.
Tom spent a few nights visiting a male friend in his old college town. He called a few times while he was out there, and I had no problem with him getting away for a few days. However, when he came home, he told me about his big night out, which included a dinner party followed by a naked hot tub session with about five other people, two of whom were girls. He seemed a little uncomfortable telling me. He didn't tell me straight out that everyone was naked -- I assumed they were and he confirmed my suspicion. I smiled and acted like it wasn't a big deal at first, but after a few minutes of cuddling he figured out that I was upset. I told him that I wasn't angry. I was "bothered" (like that makes more sense). He reassured me that I'm his only girl and absolutely nothing happened, and I believe him.
This particular college town (and the people he was visiting) is especially free-spirited and of a communal nature, so I wasn't surprised that everyone was eating vegetarian dinners and walking around naked. Tom thoughtfully listened to my concerns about the hot tub and worked hard to reassure me that "it wasn't like that." Even though I absolutely believe him that nothing happened, and that the hot tub party wasn't exactly a sexual romp in hot water, it's still eating away at me that he was naked with girls I don't know in a hot tub.
Tom actually joked that I should write to an advice column about this, and I silently agreed. I have some major physical insecurities and am apparently a bit jealous.
I know I'm obsessing about this, but am I completely out of line? I trust and love him, and I know the feeling is mutual. Am I being petty for letting this get to me so much? I don't want to make him feel like he has to sacrifice fun times because he's with me, but hanging out with naked chicks in a hot tub is very low on my list of desired mental images.
– Left Out of the Tub, Boston
A: Sounds like Tom was hanging out with hippie naked people, not sexed-up naked people. Vegetarian naked people. Spiritual naked people. Seitan-filled naked people.
You know that he behaved himself, LOOTT. As you put it, this wasn't a sexual romp, just a friendly bath.
That said, you're allowed to tell him that in the future, you'd like him to keep his clothes on when you're not around. You're allowed to feel weird about what happened. You're allowed to be creeped out -- and just a little bit annoyed. We make rules in relationships as we go along. You can set a new one. "No naked hot tubbing."
Just know that it's OK to feel jealous and insecure. Jealousy isn't such a bad thing. It reminds us that we have something to lose. His naked party poked at your insecurities, but you've probably done a million things to make him jealous over time. Maybe you've had an inside joke with a male co-worker. Maybe for him, that's more intimate than being naked with a tofu-eating stranger.
My advice is to make the rule about nudity with others and then replace that haunting hot tub image with a better one. Take him to one of those places in Boston that allows you to rent a hot tub by the hour. Splash around. Laugh this one off and make your own memory. You'll get over this, I promise.
Readers? Was he in the wrong to get naked without her permission? How can she get the image out of her mind? Is she lying about being bothered (as opposed to angry)? Is she allowed to set a nudity rule? Does he get points for telling her to write an advice columnist? Discuss.
– Meredith
We can't stay broken up
Next week is the second anniversary of Love Letters. It's the 11th, I think.
Yes, we will eventually have an event to celebrate (details soon), but in the meantime, I have an idea that involves elastic pants. Because the traditional gift for a second anniversary is cotton, I want pictures of readers in their best cotton get-up. You don't even have to include your face in the photo -- just neck-down in cotton works for me. The most creative, fun pic will get a prize. Don't send me naked photos, not that you would. I want cotton. Cotton on groups of people. Comfy cotton on loners. Cotton on cotton. E-mail them to meregoldstein at gmail dot com by Monday at 11:55 p.m. and I'll pick a winner by Tuesday.
* 1 p.m. update. Love Letters anniversary is actually Jan. 22. You can send cotton photos to me at the e-mail address above, or submit here. Deadline is now Jan. 17 at 6 a.m.
Speaking of nudity, tomorrow's letter is about naked people and hot tubs. Today's is less controversial.
Q: I was with my college boyfriend for several years. We broke up just before I graduated and he (being a few years older) took a job in the city. Several months later I went to Boston for work and we quickly fell back in touch. We began communicating daily and things started to feel like they used to. We never officially got back together, but it was like a committed relationship for several months. We got into a fight about our future and I quickly cut off all communication.
Things haven't changed much. We go from fighting to making up. I erase his number, he shows up at my doorstep. We've discussed it and we both find it nearly impossible to sever all ties. We have just become so dependent upon each other that we can't move on. There was a large gap between us last year when I moved out of state and we both saw other people, but it just didn't work out and I ended up moving back.
I feel like he's the love of my life and I just can't let him go. But I also feel like if he is the love of my life it shouldn't be this hard to make a relationship work. Please help!
– Still Attached, Cape
A: My advice is to hang on to him, SA. Not because I think that this relationship is going to work, but because you need to get thoroughly sick of it before you move on. Stay with him. Call him. Call him again. Break up. Get back together. Get nauseous about the whole thing. Wallow in frustration. Eventually, you won't have the energy for the routine. Or he won't. One of you will walk away.
Worst case scenario -- you stay together and start making it work. Really, you'll either hit a wall and drop each other or start doing what you need to do to make each other happy. But you have to exhaust yourself before you go one way or the other. You're just not exhausted yet. Sometimes maintaining the status quo is the best way to get to the right decision.
Readers? Is the answer to continue until they hit a wall? Or will they just keep the cycle going forever? What should SA do? Is there a way to cut him off? Discuss.
– Meredith
Should I be suspicious?
Q: So, I have entered into a bizarre situation. I met this guy online who lives out of state. The first couple of months, we talked strictly on the phone; however there were times within those months when he would "disappear" and I wouldn't hear back from him for weeks.
He would always give me some excuse (lost his phone, helping family members move, etc.). I had given up hope that we would ever meet face-to-face or even talk again -- because he was always MIA. However, he called me Thanksgiving weekend and informed me that he was in town. We planned to meet up some time that weekend. We did and we had a great time together. From then on, we talked pretty much every day. However, we would only talk at certain times -- on during his commute to work, his lunch break, and his commute back home -- never when he was home.
When I brought this up, he claimed that when he gets home, he's so exhausted that he doesn't like to talk on the phone much. So we pretty much continued to talk on "his time.” I never called him on the weekends. Either he was in Boston and we would hang out or one of us was traveling. This past weekend, I decided to call him to see if his "no talking on the phone when home" excuse extended to the weekend. As expected, he did not answer his phone and then he turned his phone off. I sent him an e-mail Monday letting him know that I couldn't continue seeing him because I wasn't comfortable with his "situation" -- whatever it is that prevents him from talking on the phone when he's at home. He sent me an e-mail with some outlandish excuse about how he went to Amsterdam for the weekend for work-related issues. However, I had spoken to him Friday evening and this was never mentioned.
Anyways, I know that the writing is on the wall, but I would like to hear from you and your readers. Do I have the right to be suspicious? It's only been two months -- should I give it more time to play out?
– Suspicious Suzy, Boston
A: Sometimes, SS, if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck … it is a duck who is married and lying to you. I'm assuming that he has a wife or a girlfriend ... or a boyfriend ... or a duck.
Even if he's isn't married, he isn't giving you what you want. He hasn't made you comfortable. He's not working to become your partner. He's just some guy who has been comically unavailable.
Tell him you need to date someone who lives close by. Your time is valuable. Two months is long enough.
My real advice is to start looking for guys who are a short drive away. It'll make life much easier.
Readers? Amsterdam? Phone calls and texts? Man out of state? Any potential here? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm afraid to break up with her
Q: Hi Meredith,
I'm having a dilemma. I've been seeing someone for the past year. Things started very well with us. We were very into each other and within three months we were finally comfortable to say "I love you.”
Months ago, things turned for the worse when she told me she was questioning our relationship. I found out that she had a crush on this guy she knew from high school. One night, she went to a party with him and cheated on me. She called me that night and told me how much she regretted it and that it made her realize how much she wanted to be with me.
Our relationship was pretty rocky at that point. I decided to stay with her because I really felt like she regretted her mistake. Not long after that, they both hung out at a bar together. Me, not trusting the two together, found some text messages that they exchanged about their feelings for each other. I confronted her with that, and she blamed the alcohol.
Months later, she got a job that required her to move several hours away. Things changed directions completely after that. She became clingy, jealous, and demanding/controlling. She gets angry if I don't text her enough, if I don't show her my e-mails, or if a female posts on my Facebook. Even when I am visiting my guy friends, she gets angry with me for something or another. I feel like we always fight now and I'm feeling very confined. I feel like she's constantly angry with me for things completely out of the blue.
My dilemma is that I'm pretty sure I know what I have to do. I think I need to break up with her because I'm not happy in the relationship. But for some reason, when I have opportunities to call it off, I choke. I don't do it. I feel like I can't do it. She's talking about moving in with me and marrying me (ad nauseum) and I know that I can't do either. Do you have any advice? Does this reflect my own insecurities? Is this a common issue?
– Seeking Help, Massachusetts
A: You're "pretty sure" that you know what you have to do? You should be 100 percent sure, SH. It's over, or at least it should be. Your relationship sounds pretty awful.
As for whether it's common to fear breaking up with a controlling woman with a temper, well, of course it is. You fear dumping her for the same reason that I fear going to the dentist. Even if it goes well, it's not going to be pleasant. The best case scenario is still pretty awful.
My advice is to get it done -- soon. Write something down so you don't trip up. Practice your speech in front of the mirror. Drive to see her and deliver it in person. Be honest but kind. Tell her that you care about her, but that too much of your relationship has been spent in conflict. Tell her that you don't see yourself marrying her. Tell her that you're sorry that you can't meet her expectations.
She'll probably yell at you. She'll probably cry. And she'll probably try to bargain with you. That's why you have to write it all down, so you don't lose your train of thought -- or your will to finish it off.
No one likes to be the bad guy. No one likes to go to the dentist. But we have to do what we have to do. Write it down and force yourself to say it.
Readers? Is he afraid of losing her? How can he get over the fear of her reaction? Does writing it down help? How does a good guy learn to deliver bad news? Any advice to get this moving? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm too tall in shoes
Good morning.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I always see couples in movies looking so happy, and the next thing I look at is their height. The guy is always taller than the woman, even when she is wearing gorgeous heels. Is that how it always has to be?
I understand that if it is love you can make it work, but sometimes when things aren't of the "norm" people are not as accepting or look at you funny. My boyfriend, who I am completely in love with, is maybe an inch taller back-to-back, no shoes on. I have not worn heels with him since we started dating even though I feel feminine and sexy when I wear them out with my girlfriends.
I want to look past this and be able to wear heels out with him but for some reason, being taller than him bothers me. We have been dating for almost three years and I want to stress that this would never make or break our relationship, but it is something that I think about often. How do I overcome this? He knows how I feel about this and he has no problem with me wearing heels.
I have this image that the male should be taller than the female. Can I change this and feel sexy when I am taller than him?
– Being Picky About the Small Things, Boston
A: I'm not going to yell at you for fixating on something so trivial, BPATST. You feel the way you feel. You're just being honest.
Some women feel less feminine when they earn more than their partners. Others attach femininity to age. In reality, sexiness, femininity, and attractiveness are all about attitude. Are there ways to trick yourself into feeling more like a natural woman when you put on the big shoes? Perfume? Shiny hair clips? Silky clothing? Playing a certain song while you get ready for your night out?
You say that you don't want people to look at you funny. I promise -- they're not. It's all in your head. And as for the movie thing, well, those famous guys are wearing lifts, I swear. It's Hollywood. Don't believe any of it. Your guy is the real thing.
Again, I'm not going to scold you for worrying about height, but you shouldn't be thinking about this so often. Throw on those heels, take his hand, and enjoy what you have.
Readers? What's the real issue here? Why is she thinking about this so much? Do other people feel this way about their height -- or money, or age, or anything else that shouldn't matter? Discuss.
– Meredith
Is my ex punishing me?
So you like the early letters, eh? Maybe that will be my New Year's resolution, to post letters before 8 a.m., even after I get back to the East Coast. I'm shocked that some of you are up at 5. You make me feel lazy.
This is really our last letter of 2010 because you'll get updates tomorrow. I'm thinking of you, in my West Hollywood hotel. I'm staying next to this. It's sort of ridiculous.
Q: Roughly six years ago, when I was 21, I met J. I loved him, but I was not ready to settle down.
I often found J to be overbearing and sometimes obsessive about our relationship. We dated on and off for a few years before calling it quits when I met someone else. I lived with that person for two years and we just recently broke up. Over the last few years J and I would occasionally reconnect on birthdays, just the normal chit chat.
Fast-forward to now. I moved home a few months ago, and J found this out through mutual friends. He asked me out and we started getting together periodically, once every couple of weeks. Eventually, during one of our hangouts, I spent the night. The next day, I expected to hear from him, and the day after that and after that. Eventually I called him (I was not too pleased). I let him know that after all we had been through together (yes, I broke his heart but we did have wonderful moments) I thought he would have respected me enough to call. Needless to say we then had a very long talk. I apologized a million times and and we said that we loved each other, but he still wasn't sure.
We have hung out a few times since my outburst -- simple hangouts that have included drinks and a night spent at his place. Each time there has been an extended period of no contact before I hear from him again. He mentioned needing time, so I have not contacted him at all. I am letting him work this out at his own pace. Each time I finally hear from him, he seems to be more interested in the sleepover that comes after the drinks.
My question is -- how do I show him that I love him and that I'm sorry for the past? Is he just scared? Are these sleepovers his way of getting back at me?
– Not sure we can go back, Boston
A: You dropped J for someone else, NSWCGB, but you paid your dues. You apologized profusely. You've been attentive. At this point, he either wants to be with you or he doesn't. Tell him what you want, and if he doesn't want in, move on.
You could have handled the break-up better years ago, but you did the right thing. You weren't ready to commit and you wanted to be with someone else. Sounds like typical 20s behavior to me.
I guess I'm wondering whether you're pursuing J because you love him, or whether you're just having trouble adjusting to life after your most recent break-up. Are you sure that a relationship with J is what you want? Or are you just seeking his approval because you feel guilty and alone?
No matter what happens, start thinking about what you want and deserve, not what you have to do to win someone back. You broke up with J years ago, and for appropriate reasons. Keep your expectations high. This shouldn't be a chase.
Readers? Tough love for the end of 2010? Does she deserve to be toyed with because she left him for someone else? Is he not calling her after dates because he's scared? Is there a future here? Discuss.
– Meredith
Can't forget my ex
California is great. Lots of avocados. Here's one from a young person with a great ex.
Q: Hi,
Let me first say that I'm 25 and that I've been pretty lucky in love. I've had great relationships with men who have treated me well, usually lasting around one to two years, and I've lived with the last two. For the most part, my relationships have ended because I've moved to a new state or country. I'm currently in a new relationship and have been for about two months.
My problem is that about four years ago I was in the most amazing relationship with a man when I lived abroad. We were together for two years, we lived together for most of it, and we had a dog. Life was great, I woke up every day happy and thrilled to be with him and we just had chemistry in every sense of the word. We separated because I moved back to the US and because of visa issues our only option was to get married (neither of us believes in long-distance relationships). At the time I was 22 and I didn’t feel ready to marry. It ended badly as we were both really hurt and, although we tried staying in touch, it was too difficult. Also, getting back together at this point is not an option; we've both been very hurt by this and despite how wonderful our relationship was, I do think that in light of other factors such as careers and language issues, our not getting married was for the best.
Since then I have dated, been in a year-long relationship, and now I'm in this new relationship. The problem is I can't stop comparing what I felt and what I had with my ex. It seems like no man measures up to him because he gave me everything I wanted. I also want to feel that love and excitement and happiness that I felt with him and I just can't seem to find that with everyone else. I'm scared that I will never feel that way again and I can't seem to help but bring that stress into every relationship since. Also, although I'm "young," I don’t feel that young, and I would like to get married and start a family within the next five years.
Am I holding out for some fairy tale that is never going to happen again?
– Looking For a Fairy Tale?, Boston
A: Um, sure you are, LFAFT. But that's cool. You had an awesome relationship with a great guy in an exotic place when you were in your early 20s. It's difficult to find that twice. It doesn't mean that you won't find someone else who wows you. You're 25. You're young. You want to meet someone within the next five years or so. You have time.
It seems to me that you've spent much of your life moving from relationship to relationship, choosing partnership over single life even when your partners didn't offer enough. I'm not going to tell you that you have to be single in order to find the right boyfriend, but I am going to tell you that some alone time might help cleanse your dating palate. It might also help you yearn for someone who can love you in the present -- and in the right zip code.
Consider taking some time off to clear your head.
Readers? Am I oversimplifying this? How do you learn to stop romanticizing an ex? Is she longing for the ex or life in her early 20s? Would being single for a while help? Discuss.
– Meredith
Do I have to tell her about my past
Good morning. I am in Los Angeles visiting family. That's why today's letter was posted at a crazy hour. I'm posting letters before bed this week so I don't have to get up early.
I hear we got some snow at home. I'll be thinking of you in sunny Solvang today as I drink wine and eat Dutch pastries (yes, I'm rubbing it in).
Q: Hi Meredith,
For the past few months, I've been in a wonderful relationship with an equally wonderful girl. It has been the most natural, comfortable relationship I've ever experience. Both of us feel at home with each other and I really couldn't be happier with the way things are going.
But if I didn't have a predicament, I wouldn't be writing to you. I was in a long-term relationship that lasted several years and ended over a year and a half ago. While I was with her, I cheated on her several times. I recognize what a despicable thing this is to do to someone, and to the best of my knowledge, she has no idea about my misdeeds. I really do feel horribly about what I did, and I realize that even wanting to cheat was a sign that I needed to examine or possibly end that relationship.
Now that I'm in a new relationship, am I under any obligation to disclose my past indiscretions to my current girlfriend? I don't want to hide anything from her about who I am and what I've done (and we both certainly know about at least some of each other's less-proud moments), but I'm afraid that for so many people this is an issue that is simply never acceptable. I feel dishonest for not revealing my history, but I don't want to ruin something this great for no reason. What should I do?
– Do I Tell?, Somerville
A: I'd tell her, DIT, but only when it feels organic. Don't make it a big, nasty confession. A guilty sit-down implies that your bad behavior is going to continue and that cheating is something you do in all relationships. Your disclosure doesn't have to be a warning.
When you do tell her about the cheats, give her some context. Let her ask questions. Tell her what you told us -- that you cheated because you were sabotaging a bad relationship. You learned a lesson.
Many people do awful things at the end of relationships. We know that from Love Letters, right? They check each other's e-mails, they say mean things about each other's family members, and they behave like children, in general. I'm sure this woman has her own list of misdeeds from her past, including some you don't already know about.
Don't alarm her with a big dose of dramatic news unless you feel it's relevant to your relationship.
And if this is really about wanting forgiveness from your ex, let it go. Allow everyone (including yourself) to move on.
Readers? Am I wrong? If you used to be a cheater, do you have to tell your new significant other? And if so, how? Does the letter writer's anxiety mean that he wants to apologize to his ex? Should he? Discuss.
– Meredith
I can't do distance
We'll do updates tomorrow for Christmas Eve.
Q: Meredith,
It's supposed to be the most wonderful time of the year, but I am wrought with heartache. My girlfriend and I have been dating for almost a year. We are both in our early 30s.
Our relationship was great up until now. We had a brief moment of playing house before she went of to grad school (she applied before we met), and despite reservations about the pending distance (two hours) we decided to take a stab at it. So, after five months of dating, she moved in, which we both knew was temporary. It was great. Two months and change passed and our affection toward one another was unmatched. Then, poof, she was off to her new life as a student. Things seemed OK for a while, a visit or two a month, and talking on the phone worked. We had seemed to be able to work out most things that bothered us. But after three months of her at school, things have rapidly deteriorated.
The problem boils down to the distance and my fear of what's to come. She says that I need to make a choice. I told her that I need to figure out whether I dislike the distance and all the problems associated with it, or her not being in my life. I think the only way to figure that out is to take a break from our relationship. The problem is that it may be too late by that point. We both care a lot for each other -- that much is clear -- but I am having such a hard time with the distance. I didn't think it would be this hard, but for me, it is. I need more from our relationship than weekend visits. When we are together for longer periods, it's great, but hurts all the more when it's time to part again. I am left with my empty apartment and she is off to her life at school. It's been such a roller coaster.
Lately, I have been guarded and distant with her. My recent behavior has been selfish, and not at all OK. I sunk below my own standards for being a good boyfriend/mate/partner. It makes me sick looking back at how casually I have treated a person for whom I care so deeply. She recognized this and called me out, for which I am grateful. I could only apologize, because she is right.
We had planned to spend her birthday together and now she doesn't want me to be with her on that day, which is days before Christmas. She isn't mad at me, she says, just hurt that I can't seem to make up my mind about what I want. I don't blame her -- it is completely understandable even though I wish it weren't that way.
Does it make sense that if we care for each other enough we should be able to stay together and work these things out?
Thanks for reading. I hope Santa brings me a fresh outlook on relationships. Because I can't seem to get it right on my own.
– Holiday Heartacher, Boston
A: "Does it make sense that if we care for each other enough we should be able to stay together and work these things out?" Sure. You only live two hours away from her. And from what I can tell, you're not in school. That means you can get in a car (or on a bus) and meet her as often as you need to. You had five months with this woman. That's not a lifetime, but it's certainly long enough to know that you feel strongly about her.
Santa would probably tell you go follow your heart because he's a total sap. And I am, too, for the most part. You've gone out of your way to sabotage this relationship, and it's just not working for you. Your maturity level needs to catch up to your heart and gut.
There is a way to keep her. Just sit down with her and map out how you can see each other more often. Maybe concoct a plan to live in the same place as soon as possible. Then, put up with the temporary distance. If she's worth it, she's worth it.
The whole "taking a break" thing is pretty cowardly. You seem to want to play pretend to see if you can handle losing her. If your feelings for this woman are really about her -- not just about having any old girlfriend -- getting rid of her won't make you feel any better. You'll just have none of her instead of some of her.
Readers? What does he really want? What is the solution here? After five months, should he be ready to come up with a plan to close the distance gap? Is the distance so bad? Discuss.
– Meredith
I don't want to be creepy
We will chat today at 1. You'll get a letter tomorrow and updates on Friday.
I like it when this letter writer says "Facebookians." Sounds like a secret society -- the Order of the Facebookians.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I'm in my late 40s and my wife passed away about seven years ago, leaving me with two young daughters. It's been a process, but through a lot of effort and (preemptive) counseling, I think all of us are fairly stable. Basically I don't take any day for granted, and through telework and judicious vacation leave I'm there for my kids as much as possible.
I haven't pursued anything romantically in this time. I'm just trying to get a handle on single parenting while honoring my wife's legacy. While I think I'm more ready now, I'm concerned that my romantic instincts are way off.
I bring this up because I think my daughter's teacher from last year, "Cindy", has said some odd things. Cindy's about 28, and very lively and energetic. This is someone who isn't lacking for people to "friend" her, as the Facebookians would say.
I volunteered last year in my daughter's class. Cindy said at the end that she'd love for me to come in again for her kids this year, which was just polite talk. But I saw her again at a function, and she reiterated that and suggested we meet for coffee to lay out a plan. Later in the evening we were talking with a group of people, and she seemed eager to note how she would love to see an art exhibit I said I might try to see at my lunchtime. It just seemed like there might be something there.
Thing is, I find myself starting to think about Cindy. I can't believe she'd be interested in me given the complications in my life and the options she must have. I just don't have the flexibility to court her as you normally would expect, as that takes time from my kids. So, what do I do? Is this just a fantasy I have, one that's normal for a widower getting ready to move on? Or might there be something there? I just don't want to come off as some sort of creep, so my inclination is to put this out of my mind. Thank you for any thoughts you have.
– Wondering, New Jersey
A: You won't seem like a creep if you're honest, W.
Just put it all out there. "Cindy, I'd love to hang out with you -- but is that OK? Would it be a date? Should we be friends? I'm new to this and it has been years since I lost my wife. I'm worried about saying the wrong thing and making you uncomfortable."
If Cindy is interested, she'll let you know. And if she's only interested as a friend, she'll tell you that, too. She's warm. She's not shy with you. She wants to know you better. She's going to help you through this awkward conversation.
At the very least, she'll be good practice. Don't put her out of your mind. Don't shy away from her because dating is scary. You're a human, not just a dad. And this is exciting, right?
It's almost never wrong to tell someone that you have no idea what you're doing, as long as you're being sincere.
Readers? Is Cindy the real deal? Does it matter? What should he say to her? Words of encouragement from the Order of the Facebookians? Discuss.
– Meredith
Did I scare him off?
Q: Hey Meredith!
I'm a 30-something woman who has been dating a few men casually for the past several weeks. I've been honest about the fact that I'm not looking to get serious.
One of the guys I've been seeing is a real standout, and in the past week or so I was starting to feel as though he could be a great boyfriend. We have a great time talking, have marvelous pajama parties, and seem to want the same things from life. At the same time, he's moving to another state in the late spring, so I wasn't sure if trying to make things more serious would be worth it. Some serious mental debate over the past several days. Fast forward to last weekend.
This past weekend, he tried to invite me over, and got VERY angry when I told him I was with someone else. His primary objection was that I'd choose someone else over him. I told him what I was thinking, including that I had debated us becoming exclusive, and he got even angrier. He stormed off and I'm not sure what to do at this point. Can I fix things?
– Not So Casual...?, Charlestown
A: You’re sending some major mixed signals, NSC. You say that you’re not looking to get serious, but you became open to a real relationship as soon as you met someone awesome. Then, before discussing your feelings with this awesome guy, you ended the relationship in your mind before it happened.
My advice is to stop determining what you want from your dating experiences before you’ve had them. All you're doing by making these proclamations is trying to save yourself from potential hurt. You're trying to pretend that you have control over something scary. Sorry, but you don't.
Go tell this guy that you attempted to control your future with him because you're frightened of losing him. Maybe that will fix things, maybe not.
I have no idea what his response will be. Because dating is unpredictable and scary, even when your potential mate isn’t on his way to another state. Accept that you don't know what you want and you might actually have a shot at the real thing.
Readers? Is she really dating casually? Can you determine what you're looking for before you've started the dating process? Will he take her back? Should he? Thoughts? Discuss.
– Meredith
Can we start over?
Here are some pictures from last week’s Love Letters party. I'm just throwing them up without IDs – so you can get a sense of the scene. I wish we had pics of the food. It was quite good. (Thank you to Orleans and Kickass Cupcakes).
Q: About nine years ago, I met a great guy -- let's call him JD -- and we dated for seven years before becoming engaged. But the engagement only lasted two months before I called it off. JD is Indian and Hindu and I'm white and Christian, and his mother, who feared that marrying a non-Indian would cause her son to lose his cultural identity and be unhappy, started to get involved in our relationship and start fights between us. JD never stood up for himself -- or me -- when it came to dealing with his mom and, after two months, I couldn't deal with it anymore.
After the engagement, we fumbled along with on on-again, off-again relationship for the next year and a half. During a difficult time, but still "on-again," I had a one night stand. It was wrong and inexcusable. But, when JD found out, he cut off all communication. This was over a year ago.
Fast forward to this past summer when JD and I randomly ran into each other in a store and reconnected, talking and eventually meeting up, going on a few dates, and enjoying some grilled cheese sandwiches. Our relationship is so much different now -- I've matured and his relationship with his mom is improving. We have talked openly about our past issues, especially his mom's disapproval, and he seems understanding and ready to move forward. But he also knows that it's going to take a lot for him to let go of his anger and trust me again. He's spent the last few months trying to decide if he can get past them, but hasn't figured it out yet.
We both agree that this is our last go at an "us." He is 32 (and ready to start a family) and I am 29. I have told JD that I want to be with him and am committed to the relationship and the ball is in his court now. He tells me that he doesn’t want to hurt me, but can’t seem to figure out what to do. (I've suggested talking to close friends or a therapist, both of which he has tried.) I know trust has to be earned, but how can I make up for the past? Do you think he can get over it?
– Waiting for the Sacred Cow to Come Home, Boston
A: Can he get over it? I don't know. Should he be able to get over it? Yes.
You got over the fact that he let his mother's beliefs ruin your relationship. It's apples to oranges, for sure, but he should be able to accept that your slip-up was a symptom of a greater problem. I'm not so sure that you trusted the relationship after you got back together.
You both messed up. But this "last go" shouldn't be about groveling. It should be about two people who want to start over without guilt. It should be about two people who just can't stay away from each other because they like each other so much. If he can't let go of the anger, there's just no reason to try again.
My advice is to be good to yourself by walking away if he continues to obsess about the cheat. You feel horrible. You're ashamed. But you both made terrible mistakes throughout your relationship. He's either willing to drop it or he's not. And if he can't, fine, but you don't have to sit around being punished while you wait for a big answer. It either starts now -- without resentment -- or it doesn't start at all.
Readers? Is there any hope here? Is her cheat forgivable? Should the cheat be compared to his issues with his mom? Happy Friday.
– Meredith
Sick of the hunt
Q: Hey Meredith,
I'm 32 and I live in rural New England. I moved here for a job after completing a master's degree. The job is great and the area offers lots of outdoor activities that interest me. The problem? A man shortage. And from talking with friends who live in more populous areas, this "shortage" isn't necessarily unique to my rural life -- so we're not thinking that moving is necessarily the answer. I travel enough for work to mingle outside of my local network.
I'm very social and have a large network of friends. I'm out and about in many clubs, from alumni activities to athletic organizations. I've spent plenty of time dating online and am open to these opportunities. I'm not shy at all! Blind date? Sure. Want to set me up? Go right ahead. Speed dating? Done it.
I've been in several long-term relationships, including a five-year romance in my 20s that I thought would lead to marriage but didn't. It ended over three years ago, so it is safe to say I've recovered and made it out to the other side wiser and more confident.
I've made sure not to live by a "check list," which resulted in spending two years dating a ski bum who lived with his parents. The relationship was fun but you can guess where it led: nowhere. I'm old enough to realize that at this point, I may find love with someone who is already divorced, has kids, or has some other situation that at one point would have been on my "deal-breaker" list. And yet, where are all the educated and employed men? Am I asking for too much? (I'll even make concessions for employment, given the economy.)
I know I'm not alone: I have plenty of female friends (both gay and straight) who are well-educated, many of them own their own homes, and live independently and yet yearn to share their lives with someone. The seven-weddings-a-year pandemic has passed us by and we're now all invited to baby showers and wondering when it is appropriate to consider freezing our eggs (no joke).
So here's my fear: while my dream is to find true love that eventually leads to marriage and kids, the last thing I want to do is go "munting" (man hunting). Everyone knows that husband hunting gives off a whiff of desperation. And yet the alternative is to "give it time," "be patient," and "let fate do its thing" while the biological clock keeps ticking.
Is this a lose-lose situation? Who's better off: the single ladies who put their name in their hat online or those who refuse to submit to the (somewhat justified) stereotype that we’re all munting and wait it out? I'm turning to you because advice from married friends is exhausting and not helpful. And the rest of us haven't figured it out.
– Munting Season, Vermont
A: I'm going to blame your problem on television, MS. I know I've said it before, but television shows make us think that we're supposed to be dating all of the time. Like, every episode.
Life isn't "Sex and the City." Life isn't even "30 Rock." If it were, I'd date Jon Hamm or Matt Damon at least a few times each season -- with hilarious results.
In real life, there are lulls. Sometimes long ones. You had a significant relationship in your 20s and have dated around in your early 30s. You haven't met anyone fantastic, no one episode-worthy. That sounds about right to me.
You're telling us that you have a big community. You're telling us that you're doing what you need to do to meet someone nice. I guess my advice is to keep doing that -- and to stop thinking of it as your desperate search for a husband. It's really your search for love. That's got a better ring to it, doesn't it?
And take the pressure off yourself to speed this along. Again, only fictional characters have awesome and interesting partners all of the time. I know it's exhausting and that your clock it ticking, but love isn't easy to find and maintain. Even the marrieds have to work like crazy to keep it going.
Readers? Advice for this single person? Is she underestimating the role of her hometown in all of this? Should she be freaking out at 32? Is this a female issue? Am I right about the role of TV? And the lulls? Discuss.
– Meredith
Afraid to break up with him
Q: Hi Meredith,
I am a huge fan of your column and this is my first letter. I am 27 and my best friend/boyfriend is four years older than I am. We'll call him Henry. I love Henry so much, but things between us seem to be going down the drain. We've been together for almost two years. But about a year ago we separated for a few months because I felt our long term goals didn't match.
Lately I've been thinking about both of the guys I dated during that separation and how much better they treated me. They asked me what I wanted to do when we went out and they did little things to show that they cared about me physically and emotionally. Henry has always done whatever he wants to do and I have settled. When I have felt strongly about things I have kept quiet about them for months -- sometimes 6 months. I just tend to do everything his way. He also criticizes me constantly. I recently lost my temper twice and we had a fight about my roommate who was annoying me and my driving. I think I lost my temper because I'm fed up with his general behavior. Things have been this way between us for six months or so but we have both been busy with work and just content enough to stay together. I don't think he likes someone else but I'm sure he fantasizes about other women/things. I think he feels that he is tied to me so he shouldn't be expected to do other things that make me happy.
Overall he is a wonderful person and I even love his family. I would love to marry this person further down the road, but it seems like he is more independent than I am and critical. I love him so much and have tried to give him what he wants, but I don't know if I can take it any more. Is it possible to change this pattern with Henry and did I set myself up for it to end this way? Should I do the scary dating thing again? I know it is also a rough world out there. The upside to all of this is all of the frustration I didn't take out on Henry I spent at the gym for the past 4 months! So I am in the best shape of my life, but the person I'm with hasn't even noticed. Thanks!
– Holding on to Lost Expectations, Boston
A: You want to marry this guy? What? Please read your letter a few times -- out loud.
The part of your letter that interests me most, HOTLE, is this question: "Should I do the scary dating thing again?" I assume that’s why you're staying with good-old Henry. Dating was frightening. Maybe those nice guys ended relationships before you were ready.
Dating new people is scary, for sure, but not as scary as wasting time with someone you know isn't right for you. You don't want to marry Harry. You don't even want to keep dating him. I don't know if he's fantasizing about other women, but you're certainly fantasizing about the men you dated during your break from Henry.
You're not dating Henry's family. You're not dating the fictional Henry of the future. You're just dating someone who isn't making you very happy.
My advice is to get back out there with your awesome gym bod. And again, if you're feeling insecure about doing the right thing, read your letter aloud. Over and over.
Readers? Why is this difficult for her to see? Or am I wrong? Can you tell her something to make the "scary world out there" less scary? Discuss.
– Meredith
He has no friends
Thank you to everyone who came to Friday's screening of "Casablanca" and the pre-party. I love field trips. We'll have another one soon.
Q: Hi Meredith,
Here's the deal. I'm basically the living plot line of the movie "I Love You, Man". Hilarious on the big screen ... not so amusing in real life. Basically, my boyfriend has no friends. We got together in college, which I think made the issue worse. We spent most of our time together and hung out with my friends on the weekends. He did not live on campus, so it was definitely difficult for him to make friends. We are now in our mid-20s, and he still does not have any of his own friends. We have two couples that we go out a lot with, but he would never hang out with the guys on his own, without the girls present.
The reason this bothers me is because I feel guilty when I want to hang out with my friends on my own. He never comes out and says it, but I feel some resentment when I leave him home alone to spend time with my friends. I try to include him as much as possible, but he is a guy, so sometimes the activities just don't interest him, and sometimes I just want time on my own. I feel that it is really important for us both to have our own lives and hobbies outside of each other. However, he is not an outgoing kind of person, and he isn't into sports much, so I don't know how to help him make friends. We have discussed the issue a couple of times, and he does want to have his own friends, or at least one of them, but I don't think he knows how to go about it. Any suggestions? Should I just let this go?
– His Only Friend, Cape Cod
A: HOF, you shouldn't drop the issue, but you shouldn't frame it as a big criticism of how he lives his life. The goal is for him to be happy. He should find some friends to enrich his existence, not because he feels competitive or bad about himself.
My advice is to help him with his self-confidence by assuring him that there's nothing wrong with him. Making new friends is difficult, especially as a guy. Most of the men I know find new pals by joining recreational teams and fantasy leagues. Is there a comparable activity for your boyfriend? Book club? Cooking class? Yes, he might wind up with female friends, but is that so bad? He might be more comfortable in a predominately female environment.
And tell him that some people are better at making friends later in life. Maybe if you guys stay together and have kids, he'll be great at making friends with other parents -- which, by the way, isn’t always easy for people who already have a pack of buddies from college.
The trick is to be positive. Remind him that he's awesome. After all, he's one of your best friends, right? And assure him that he doesn't have to push too hard. Baby steps, and only if they feel natural.
Readers? Am I right to say that befriending women might be the answer? Does everyone need close friends? Am I right to say that he might be better at making friends later in life? How can she avoid feeling guilty for having friends of her own? Discuss.
– Meredith
My prince thinks he's a frog
Here are some of the entries for the "Cast a 'Casablanca' Remake" ticket contest. Winners have already been chosen, but feel free to leave a comment with your own ideas.
As for tonight:
1. Pre-party is open to everyone. It starts at 6:30/7 p.m. and goes until 8:30. It is at Orleans in Davis Square. It's first come, first served, so try to get there on time. It is a pre-party, not a post-party -- I think the movie theater's website said "post," but it's pre, for sure.
2. At 8:30ish, movie ticket holders should make their way to the Somerville Theater. Right at 9, Wesley Morris and I will do a quick Q&A/introduction and screen the film.
3. I think it's about sold out, but there might be a ticket or two here.
4. See you there.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I am engaged to a wonderful man. We are both in our mid-to-late 20s, and have been together for four years. Our wedding is set for next year, and after we got engaged a few months ago, we moved in together. We are obviously not without our squabbles, but at the end of the day, I can honestly say that I am marrying my best friend.
There's just one small thing that has started bugging me more and more. My fiance went to community college and then went on to a not-highly-ranked state school due to numerous financial and familial problems. He graduated a few years after he was “supposed” to. He now has his Bachelor’s degree and a job that he has been in for several years, which he enjoys and plans to make a career of. I went to an impressive university and got a post-graduate degree in my field. My career is a bit more fast-paced and demanding, and my colleagues are all quite intelligent.
My fiance does not lack self-esteem. He tells me quite often how he knows that he will be successful in his life and how driven he is. That is one of the things that I respect most about him. His ambition is something that I know I will always be attracted to. But sometimes he doesn't do himself justice.
For instance, friends of his have joked that I am smarter than him. This is by no means the case. But sometimes I think that he buys into all of it. For instance, a few weeks ago we watched a movie that was difficult to understand and when I tried to have a conversation about the plot, he brushed it off and said something like "I just loved watching it with you." While that is very sweet, I want to have intelligent conversations about books, movies, and plays with my spouse and I was bothered that he didn't want to discuss it. When I try to talk about work issues with him, he tells me that he doesn't know how to respond because he doesn’t have a background in my career -- but sometimes my problems are just about interpersonal issues. He shuts down discussions that I try to have with him about things that are bothering me (not about him, about other aspects of my life) by just saying "Well, I love you," but I'm looking for more of a conversation. When I vent to him, he listens, but then he changes the subject without really acknowledging what I've said, telling me he doesn’t know what to say. I honestly don't know if he does it because he thinks we are not on the same intelligence level.
I have told him many times how smart I think he is and how envious I am of the things that he is good at. When interacting with my colleagues, though, he often "defers" to me in a way that he thinks is cute, but I think it’s embarrassing. I want a partner, not someone who puts me on a pedestal.
He is usually a strong-willed guy who knows his own mind and is not afraid to share his opinions. How do I get him to treat me like an equal? I honestly don’t think I’ve done anything to make him think that I view him as anything less than my partner and I think that he thinks he is showing me how much he loves me by treating me like a princess. And while I love him for that, I am just as lucky to be with him. How do I get him to see that he's just as smart as I am and that I value his advice and opinions?
– This Princess Wants Her Frog to Know He's a Prince, Cambridge
A: You know, TPWHFTKHAP, I'm not convinced that your frog doesn't know he's a prince. He values his job. He has self-respect. Is it possible that he just didn't feel like discussing a movie he didn't enjoy? Is it possible that he defers to you in front of your work friends because he's counting the minutes until he can escape a party that bores him? Is it possible that he doesn't give you advice about your problems because he's not the best listener?
I think that he's proud of you -- maybe even in awe of you -- and that he likes to show it. But he has different interests than you do, and he doesn't always like to broaden his horizons. My advice is to give him the option of saying, "I don't love your work parties," or, "That movie was great, but now I'd like to watch 'Road House' and not talk about it."
You have to accept him as he is -- a smart guy who can't be everything to you. You might have to have some of those work conversations with a friend who gets it. You might have to go to artsy films with a family member.
My gut tells me that he's a prince who knows he's a prince. He just doesn't feel comfortable in all situations. Unfortunately, some of those situations are the ones you have to put him in because you're his fiancee. Accepting his interests and his social strengths and weaknesses will make the marriage much easier. I assume the married folks will tell you the same thing. He's just not going to be good at everything.
Readers? Is this about intelligence or does he simply shut down when he can't relate? How can she teach him to have big discussions? Is this something that will affect their marriage? Discuss.
– Meredith
He's not affectionate
I'll post the "Casablanca" contest entries tomorrow. Thanks to everyone who entered. It was good reading.
Remember to get your movie tickets, and that the pre-party starts tomorrow at 6:30/7ish. Join me here.
Q: My boyfriend and I are at a breaking point. The time has come to get engaged or go our separate ways. We have been together for a few years. We are in our mid-late 20s and we are best friends. We respect each other, care about each other, laugh all the time, etc. I have no complaints except for the "making grilled cheese sandwiches" part. That area is definitely lacking and he is aware of it. We have tried to improve it and I honestly think he is okay with the current state of things. Clearly, I am not okay with it, but I've reached the point where I realize we have different preferences when it comes to intimacy. My question is -- how important is all of that in a marriage? I feel like without it, we will be nothing more than best friends, and I love him and myself too much to allow that to happen. I'd rather let him go so he can find someone who is more compatible in that area with him, but I do love him and I cannot imagine my life without him so it is hard to let go. I just don't want to marry him and 10 years down the road complain that he isn't passionate enough for me. It's not fair to him or to me. I'm in a tough situation right now and I don't want to be selfish. Thoughts? Suggestions? By the way, there are no third parties involved or anything like that. We are very open to each other and loyal. My boyfriend and I just come from different backgrounds. My parents were very loving and affectionate; his parents were distant and cold. While my boyfriend has taken great strides to improve our love life, I can tell something is still missing.
– Sad in Boston
A: It sounds like you've already made a decision, SIB. The fact that you're even open to the idea of him dating someone else suggests that you've already come to terms with what's going to happen.
You want more affection, and not just the grilled cheese. He's working hard to make things better for you, but it's not quite enough. That sets him up to fail over and over again, and it sets you up to be continuously disappointed.
We all have a list of things we can't put up with in a romantic relationship. Some people can cope with a lack of grilled cheese but consider financial irresponsibility a deal-breaker. Other people could care less about grilled cheese and money but require have a partner who shares their religious beliefs.
You're telling us that you love your boyfriend but that you don't think he can make you happy in the long run. Fearing that you'll miss someone is not a great reason to marry them.
Readers? Do they have to break up? Should marriage be on the table? Am I right to say that she has already made a decision? Discuss.
– Meredith
She hasn't told her family about me
I'll notify "Casablanca" contest winners by 5ish. If you want to make sure you get a ticket, buy them here. And again, everyone is welcome to attend the pre-party at Orleans in Davis Square between 6:30/7 and 8:30 p.m. There will be potato pancakes and cupcakes.
Q: I am dating a woman who is nine years younger then me (I'm in my 30s, she's in her 20s). We have been seeing each other for just over a year now. She isn't from the area but has been here for her master’s degree.
She's smart, beautiful, silly, generally mature for her age (as she is balancing a full course load and a full-time job), and says she loves me. But there are problems.
She's worried about things that won't happen, mostly me leaving her for another woman. She gets jealous of my female friends, married and unmarried, who all live thousands of miles away. We have talked about it and she even tells me that she knows it should be a non-issue. She knows that I wouldn't cheat on her.
Neither of us has lived with another person, but after she finishes her master's, she's going to have to find a place to live (she's in a campus apartment right now). I feel that the logical next step is that we find a place together. I've brought this up on occasion and the discussions are usually very quick with no definite decisions.
Another road block is that she has not even mentioned me to her family. One of the things that she is worried about is my education. Her family all has bachelor's degrees and above. Meanwhile, I don't have a degree, but at the same time have a good job that I excel at, and have plenty of opportunities for advancement.
She has given me logical reasons for why she is delaying telling her family about me. The most important one is that she'd like to get a better job so that she can support herself instead of relying on her parents.
Right now, as it stands, I think that her family believes that she is eventually just going to move back home with them, and I fear that, too. Neither of us feels we are capable of long distance relationships, and in this economy I don't want to chance having to find another job elsewhere.
This thing about her not telling her parents about me is starting to bother me. Are her logical reasons acceptable? What should I do?
– Issues Galore, Boston
A: IG, you say that she's mature because she's going to grad school and working at the same time. Her multitasking is proof that she's ambitious and responsible, for sure, but does it really mean that she's ready for a mature relationship?
You want a plan. You want to cohabitate. You want her family to know that you're her main squeeze. Meanwhile, she isn't sure about your education or her own ability to live independently. She's sort of … unfinished.
I'm not into ultimatums, but you're allowed to give her a list of demands. If she's in, it starts now -- family introductions, apartment hunting, and treating the present as if it's a part of the future. If she can't do that, I'd really consider looking for someone who's excited about being with you right now, someone who not only accepts your place in life but shows you off. That's the beauty of being in your 30s. You're allowed to feel comfortable in your own skin and to find someone who feels the same way.
Readers? Are there too many road blocks to fix? Are her excuses legitimate in any way? Is it too soon for them to consider cohabitation? Is she mature enough for this relationship? Discuss.
– Meredith
Can I date my friend's ex?
I have a few pairs of tickets to give away for Friday's Love Letters screening of "Casablanca." If you want them, e-mail me your casting choices for a remake of "Casablanca" with present-day actors (blasphemy, I know). Keep your entries at 150 words or less. If you've never seen the movie, make some good guesses and include the fact that you're a "Casablanca" virgin in your e-mail. Entries should be sent to meregoldstein at gmail dot com. Write "Tickets!" in the subject line. They're due tomorrow at 9 a.m. I'll notify winners by 5 p.m. tomorrow. If you want to just buy tickets, you can get them here.
I wonder if Alice (as in commenter Alice) will return just to make a point about this letter. For the record, it's not about her. Still ....
Q: One of my best friends is an avid LL reader, and when she heard my dilemma she suggested I write in. I'm hoping you and your readers can help me sort out this situation.
"Jim" has been my friend since I remember -- we grew up together and were always close. After high school we went to separate colleges but continued to stay in touch and get together during every break. His freshman year, he met "Alice" and they began date -- staying together for all four years of college. Since they dated for so long, I hung out with her many times throughout their relationship, going on trips, going out on group dates, etc. Jim broke up with Alice at the end of this past summer after meeting somebody else, whom he began dating almost immediately after ending things with Alice. Because of the time I've spent with Alice over the past four years, I have come to consider her one of my good friends. Having just gone through a rough break up myself, I reached out to her after Jim ended things (after asking his permission to keep in touch with her, which he granted.)
The problem is that I've had feelings for Alice ever since we were introduced. My feelings were simply attraction while she was dating my friend, as I was in a relationship for the majority of time as well. But now that we're both single and we've continued to talk, my feelings for her have grown to something more. Recently, we've had a conversation about how we both have feelings for one another. We went on a date that was absolutely amazing and had a nearly perfect first kiss. However, throughout the night, she did voice her concern that she felt guilty and the only reason she doesn't want to commit to dating me 100% is because she was with my friend for so long. I too feel incredibly guilty -- here I am breaking the number one rule, dating my best friend's ex.
Am I a terrible friend? Is it fair to date Alice? How long do I wait to see if the two of us are actually going to work out before I approach Jim about the situation? Or, despite my belief that Alice and I could be a great fit, should I completely back off?
– A Confused Friend, Boston
A: You're not really asking me whether it's OK to date Alice, ACF. You've already made that decision. It's happening.
As for when you have to tell Jim, well, the answer is right now. Just be straight with him. Tell him you know the rule ("Bros before … amazing, intelligent women"), but that you've always been smitten with Alice. You're hoping that he has really moved on with this new woman and that he'd like to see Alice happy. Most of all, you're hoping that he'd like to see you happy.
My advice is to tell him sooner than later because "I think I dig Alice" sounds a lot better than, "Alice and I have been dating for three months." Be calm and respectful -- and don't ask, just tell. If you're not really asking for permission, don't pretend you are. Just tell him what's happening and that you're hoping he can put up with it.
There are exceptions to every rule and I hope this is one of them. And if it isn't and he can't forgive, well, it sounds like you're just not as close with Jim as you used to be anyway. I'm not downplaying the importance of old friends, but if you were really scared to death of losing him, you'd have avoided Alice from the start. Instead, you developed a close friendship with her -- one that you knew might lead to more. You've made it clear that whether she's a friend or girlfriend, Alice is your priority. It is what it is. Just come clean.
Readers? Does he have to back off and follow the rule? Is it realistic to think that he should? He's obviously young -- does age play into this? Discuss.
– Meredith
Avoiding a holiday hookup
The results of the Romance Rumble are in -- and I lost. Film Critic (and Romance Rumble winner) Wesley Morris explains it all here. I'm trying not to be a sore loser. I bet Lloyd Dobler watched a lot of "Casablanca" before he got on that plane with Diane Court.
Wesley and I will host the Romance Rumble pre-party on Friday (Dec. 10) from 7 to 8:30 at Orleans in Davis Square. All are welcome. No RSVPS/movie tickets necessary. Feel free to show up at 6:30 to get a good seat. I'll be there with plates and plates of food. A note to straight, single men: I'm not stereotyping, but Love Letters events tend to draw a number of nice, single, straight women. Fish. In. A. Barrel. Really. (Just be nice to the fish.)
At 8:30, Wesley and I will walk to the Somerville Theatre for a quick Q&A and screening of "Casablanca." If you haven't seen it, please join us. If you have, please see it again. It will be wonderfully cozy night and a great way to watch a classic. Tickets for the movie can be purchased here.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I could really use your help this holiday season before I make a huge turkey of myself. Here's the back story: I'm a single mom in her mid-30s and I've been separated and divorced for five years. My problem is with my ex-boyfriend, whom I dated for a little over a year. We broke up one year ago when he moved away to go back to school.
To say I had a hard time with the breakup would be a bit of an understatement. I knew it was the right thing to do, particularly since he is significantly younger than I am, but my will is awfully weak when my heart is involved. It didn't help that he was one of those "I love you, but -- " and "let's be friends" kind of ex-boyfriends. My dating experience at that point had been really limited, and I didn't realize that still communicating but not getting any caring out of it would be so destructive. After nearly a year of frustration, we stopped talking for awhile, and I started feeling like myself again. Dating has been horrible so far, though; just a series of awkward first dates with no connection whatsoever. I can't seem to find anyone I like as much as I liked my ex (nor, to be honest, as much as I like my mail man, my chiropractor, and the friendly check-out guy at Whole Foods).
Here's the problem with my ex: we're friendly again, and e-mail very occasionally. However, when he comes home for holidays, it's a different story -- he writes and calls often, making it very clear that he's between girlfriends and wants to hook up. He has always claimed that he loves me and that I'm the only person in the world who understands him -- but I know the truth about such things. Even knowing this, though, I have to confess that I am so weak-willed that I have taken him up on his offers. The memory of love is strong, and it's hard to not want to revisit it. And even though it's usually just for a day or two, it's awfully nice to have someone care about you for awhile.
I'm at the point where I'm forcing myself to go out of town (all my family lives out of state, which doesn't help) for the holidays, even though I'd rather stay home. I know he'll be here for the holidays and looking to "reconnect," and I know also that, while it gets easier to say "no" as time goes on, saying "no" to even a single day of love and attention isn't something I can do easily even though I know it's the right choice.
Can you please give me some advice for keeping my distance? Other than making up a fantasy boyfriend (I tried that once, but it fell through pretty quickly), is there anything I can say to him that will make a difference other than "no"? I'd like him to understand that you can't treat people like this, but somehow I can't reach him. Oh, and if you could throw in a side dish of consolation for those of us who feel like we're going to be alone and disconnected from humanity for the rest of our natural life, I'd be grateful!
– Better Than a Booty Call, Newton
A: BTABC, my advice is to be startlingly honest with him. If he comes over for a pajama party, say something like, "I'm so happy that you still find me attractive because I'd really like to get back together and revisit the issue of commitment!" Then watch him run away. If he says, "No one understands me like you do," fire back with, "You're right -- let's get hitched!" I'm telling you, nothing ruins the hook-up mood like a blunt wish list that involves exclusivity and accountability.
The bigger problem, of course, is what you so brilliantly call "the memory of love." I don't blame you for wanting to revisit the relationship when possible, but perhaps there are other ways to fill the void. Maybe it's time to tell all of your friends that you're ready for set-ups. Maybe it's time to take an exciting trip. Maybe it's time to make more single friends so that you can sit around with peers and talk about the availability of the mail man. What I do know is that it's your job to set boundaries. It's difficult, but you can't count on your ex to learn a lesson and remove himself as a temptation. You have to fend for yourself.
And if you really need a side dish of consolation, I'll give you this: I guarantee you that at some point during the holidays, probably on Christmas, someone will Google you. Maybe it will be a guy from your childhood or one of those men who took you on a terrible date. Maybe it will be your ex. I have no idea. But someone will be feeling lonely without you. Someone will be wondering where you are. It's inevitable.
It's also inevitable that you'll eventually go on some not-so-terrible dates. Eventually. Just stay in the mix and continue to be honest about your intentions. Be upsettingly honest. That'll keep you out of trouble.
Readers? Is my side dish of consolation any good? How do you stop yourself from having a destructive hook-up? Should she stop herself? Is there potential with the ex? Advice for the lonely during the holidays? Discuss.
– Meredith
My forbidden love
Vote Lloyd Dobler in '10! Remember, this isn't about choosing the best romantic movie of all time -- it's about choosing your favorite, the one you want to see with me on Dec. 10. Yes, I'm trying to sway you. Vote here. Buy tickets here.
As for the pre-party, it will be at Orleans in Davis Square from 7 to 8:30. There will be food and mingle time. Wesley and I will take movie ticket holders over to the Somerville Theatre at 8:30 for the 9 p.m. screening. There will be special treats for the movie buffs.
Q: While on vacation over the summer, I met someone special. I had just recently separated from my husband of two years and was not in a good place emotionally. This stranger gave me a much needed compliment and we ended up exchanging contact information. We immediately began e-mailing, texting, and talking on the phone. He was giving me a reason to get out of bed everyday and I was inspiring him to be a better man.
Here's the catch, He's 24 and I'm 33. Although he is completely sober, he has had previous problems with drugs and alcohol. He calls me his angel because I have given him a reason to fight his addictions and make him realize that his past doesn't define who he is.
Through our lengthy conversations and complete respect for one another, we have fallen in love. We had an amazing weekend together and he has made me realize that my marriage lacked many things, as he has given me more respect than my husband ever did.
I know my biological clock is ticking and reality tells me that at 24, this man isn't going to be my future husband. The question is....is it wrong to continue a "forbidden love" with a man who cannot give me what I truly want in life or is is OK to continue my "friendship" with him as he makes me smile during a time of personal pain due to a failed marriage?
– Too Young?, Boston
A: I'm not saying that this guy is your forever-I-love-you-soul-mate -- I have no idea what he is -- but I wouldn't underestimate his potential. He's been through a lot at 24.
There is an age gap here, don't get me wrong, but it's not so bad that it's forbidden. My advice is to stop treating this like forbidden love. How often do you see him? Can you make this feel more like a real relationship?
If you start behaving like this is legit, you'll find out whether your priorities are totally out of sync or whether in reality, you're actually on the same page. Perhaps after a battle with addiction he's looking for a mature 33-year-old who doesn’t live in a bar after work -- someone he can really talk to. And perhaps after a rough marriage, this is all you're ready for. Is your clock really ticking? Are you really ready to find someone else to marry?
If you're not seeing him, ask to visit. If you are seeing him, see him more often. Try to make this as real as possible. It'll either explode or turn into something that feels pretty fantastic.
Readers? Am I being naive about the potential here? Should the age gap matter so much? Is this forbidden love? Is the addiction issue something to be concerned about? Should she be focused on her clock? Discuss.
– Meredith
Committed with a crush
Romance Rumble Final 4. This could end up being Swayze vs. Swayze. Or Swayze vs. Bogart. Or Lloyd Dobler vs. Bogart. I can't handle it. Get your tickets to the Dec. 10 screening. It'll makes for a good date night or night out with friends. The pre-party will be 7 to 8:30 at a nearby bar (which I will announce early next week). There will be yummy food and cool trinkets for movie ticket holders.
Q: Hi Meredith,
To cut to the chase, I've been in a relationship with a great guy, "Dan," for the past two years, and we are both in our mid-twenties. I love him very much and know I want a future with him. He is loving, faithful and talks about our future together. You're probably wondering why I'm writing to you.
Let's call him "Joe," a guy who works in my office in a different department. I had a crush on Joe for a couple of months before I met Dan. Joe and I eventually started to hang out, text, and talk all the time in the beginning of my relationship with Dan. Joe and I had so much in common and developed an intense emotional connection. Eventually, I told Joe we had to stop hanging out so much because I felt weird about having such a close male friend in my life, and I had developed feelings for him, which wasn't fair to Dan. I think Joe might have liked me during this time (we never talked about our feelings for each other), but would never cross a line due to my relationship status. Nothing ever happened between us physically. I saw him again a few weeks ago for the first time in six months, and all of my old feelings came rushing back in an instant. Joe met someone else and is moving in with her, which I have known for some time, but I don't know if I'll ever get over him completely. I find myself wondering what could have been, then I feel guilty for thinking these thoughts when I have Dan, who is wonderful.
My question is -- how do I get over him and move on completely? It has been almost a year since we stopped communicating regularly, and then eventually at all. There is a chance we may be working closely together in the future. I miss our friendship and connection, but I don't want to feel weird about feeling to close to him or start to hang out with him again. I don't want to have my cake and eat it too -- I love Dan and have chosen him. Do you have any coping strategies?
– Stuck in the Past, Providence
A: You might not get over him, SITP. You'll probably always get butterflies when you see Joe. I mean, we don't get over everyone. Sometimes crushes linger like a sinus infection. If Joe showed up at your door tomorrow and asked you to ditch Dan for him, would you? Of course not. You already made that decision.
My advice is to stop putting pressure on yourself to get over it. If you accept that things will always be a bit weird between you and Joe, life will get a bit easier. Maybe you'll be capable of meeting your own expectations. And as for hanging out with him, well, he lives with someone now. I don't think it will be a temptation. He's not as available as he used to be.
I think that the most difficult thing if you wind up working with Joe will be realizing that the connection isn't the same as it was. Time will have passed. He'll be giving his emotional intimacy to his girlfriend. And by the way, it's OK if that makes you sad. You're only human.
The most important thing is that you still love and want Dan. I'm pretty sure that you do.
Readers? Am I wrong to say that sometimes we just don't get over people? Is it healthy to accept that some feelings linger? How should the letter writer set boundaries? Discuss.
– Meredith
Why the rush?
Romance Rumble. Wow. Well, I guess, in the end, there can only be one winner. Vote. Get your tickets. Let's have a moment of silence for the films that didn't make it.
In other news, some of our most popular commenters asked whether it would be possible to donate to Globe Santa in the name of Love Letters. Nice, right? If you want to do that (no pressure – I know money is tight), go here and make sure it says "Love Letters" at the bottom.
And chat at 1.
Q: I'd like to start by saying that I love my boyfriend. (I'll call him John.) More than I could ever put into words. We've been together for almost three years, and about two of those three have been spent long distance. We started dating at the end of high school and went to different colleges. We're still in college and are able to see each other every three to five weeks. When we're at home, we're always together, hiking, challenging each other to games of Mario Kart, cooking, you name it. We have so much fun together.
Starting at the beginning of this semester, John's been saying that he wants to live together once we hit grad school. I'm all for it, don't get me wrong, but what's with the timing? Then, in the last two weeks, he's brought up engagement. I told him that I was speechless and thrilled, but that I thought it would be best for the actual asking bit to wait for a few more years. He looked completely crestfallen. Completely unromantic, I know, to be putting a time table on his spontaneity. His said his reasoning was this: if we're already this close and talking about futures, why wait?
My reasoning is that I want to mature with him, together, before we make a commitment as big as this. I want to pursue my studies further, not that I wouldn't be able to do that if we were engaged, but I just want more time to be a "normal" student. I guess that's the best way of describing it.
It depends on the individual couple, but what and when is a good time? This is a touchy enough subject, how do I go about talking to John without stepping on his toes further?
– Confused in Love, Boston
A: Why wait? How about money. Sanity. Distance. The list goes on.
I know that engagements are about romance, but marriages -- which are a bigger deal, right? -- are about love and practicality. You're allowed to step on his toes. You're allowed to say, "Honey, I love you, but stop rushing this for no good reason." Somebody has to be the realist.
You mentioned distance at the beginning of your letter. You could have omitted that detail but you didn't. The distance concerns me, and it obviously concerns you. I'm not saying that you don't have potential as a couple because you only see each other every few weeks, but I am saying that it's a good idea to put off all big promises until you know what it's like to be sick of each other.
You're worried about spoiling the magic. I get that. But you're offering him something better than magic -- an engagement based on legitimate, adult awesomeness. You're instincts are right. Don't rush. Be loving but honest. It sounds like he'll follow your lead even if he's frowning as he does it.
In the meantime, play Mario Kart and enjoy your youth.
Readers? If they both know they've met their mate, is there a reason to wait? Is he rushing? Should she embrace his enthusiasm? Discuss.
– Meredith
Can we be friends?
The Romance Rumble continues. I am shocked by some of the early casualties. Please buy your tickets for the Dec. 10 screening. There will be news on the pre-party soon. Even if your favorite film doesn't win, it will be fun and social and ... well, I just want to hang out on a cold Friday night.
Q: Dear LL,
Almost three weeks ago, I was dumped for the first time. We're both 23 (young love, I know) and dated for about two years. After about six months together we began a long-distance relationship (three hours apart). He started working and I started medical school. Over the next year and a half, we built a wonderful and honest relationship, talking every night and spending amazing weekends together.
Then, over the past few months, he began distancing himself. He said that he needed space to "find himself," so I backed off and tried to understand/support him. We joked that it was his quarter-life crisis. After a while, he seemed more interested in our relationship and making future plans, which I took as a positive sign. Apparently, he thought otherwise. Two days before I was going to visit him, he called and dumped me. I was completely devastated. He said that he couldn't handle the distance anymore since there is no end in sight (I have two more years of school). From my perspective, our time together was well worth the drive. Either way, the real problem is now getting over him, especially since he is insisting that we remain friends.
Since the break-up, we've talked plenty and he even came to visit for an afternoon to discuss things in person since we broke up over the phone (lame, right?). All this time, his focus was on being friends and he kept on setting rules about our new "friendship." We can talk two nights a week, see each other every month or two, etc. While I would love to keep him in my life, I know that I need to get the idea of us out of my head before considering any type of friendship with him (and only one without those ridiculous rules). He seems to think that ending our relationship and starting a new friendship can blend seamlessly into one another.
When we talked tonight, I finally told him that we need to stop communicating completely so that I can try to move on and then maybe come back to the idea of being friends. He told me that the decision was mine to make, but was clearly upset about it and immediately began asking when I thought we could talk again. Just when I was confident about moving on, he's suddenly afraid to lose his "best friend." Talk about confusing?!
So here's my question: am I finally making the right moves to move on? I'm feeling partly confident/partly confused about my decision and just need advice and encouragement because I still feel heart-broken too. And I don't really understand how this will ever come full circle into a friendship.
– Making Moves to Move On, New York
A: Yes, MMTMO, you're making all the right moves. You're setting boundaries. You're prioritizing yourself. You're deeming your ex's rules to be selfish and irrational. You're on the up, I swear.
The way I see it, this guy just lost out on dating his "best friend," who also happens to be a doctor-in-training. His loss.
Is it possible to have a friendship with him? Maybe. But do you want one? Again, he's three hours away. If there isn't a "pajama party" at the end of the drive, will either of you want to make the journey?
Your friendship was a part of your romantic relationship. He has to realize that by breaking up with you, he loses all of you. He can't assume you'll want a platonic friendship. He can't script the break-up. I assume that this is his first big romantic loss. Don't assume he knows anything you don't.
I know it's confusing and tempting to be around him as much as you can, even if it's as a friend. But you're doing it right. Cleaning the wound. Treating it. Letting it heal. Like a good doctor.
Readers? Any suggestions? Is she doing this right? Should she have to tell him when she'll be open to a friendship? Discuss.
– Meredith
He won't compromise
Good morning.
The "Romance Rumble" starts today. You vote on romantic movies and we'll screen the winner Dec. 10 at the Somerville Theatre. There will be a pre-party that night in Davis Square (location to be announced soon). Make sure you vote and buy a ticket. And then deal with today's letter.
Q: I'm a 35-year old woman who has led her life backwards: married at 21, divorced by 23, and dating ever since. Generally I'm a happy gal. I've got a great career, close friends and family, tons of hobbies, and live a pretty full, independent life. Admittedly, I've got some abandonment issues (as you may see), but they don't stop me. I look forward to finding love and someday marrying and having a family.
I've been dating a divorced dad of a young child off and on for the past two years. We are two hours apart but have made it work with mutual effort. We've both made mistakes and have had our share of break-ups and make-ups. We've chosen to work on it and stay together.
Lately I've had a growing sense of unease about how much is too much to "bend" in a relationship. For example, when I expressed my desire to take the next step in our relationship, he asked me to move in. Since his child is the priority, I told him I would move there to begin our life -- with an engagement. This move would necessitate me quitting my job, selling my home, and moving far away from my current circle of friends and family. This doesn't daunt me -- I'd do so happily; but, he states that to him, engagement means marriage and he is not ready for that.
Since there is young child involved, moving in without an engagement is not an example I choose to set. Since then I've thought about what I want for my life and told him my plan: if in the spring he is still unsure, I will need to leave him. While I understand his need to be "sure," I need to move out of this holding pattern.
Ever since we started discussing commitment, my respect for the relationship is deteriorating and all the petty things are surfacing. For example: differences in lifestyle and standards of living. He lives in a rural area and holds frugality in high regard. His historic house is a ramshackle. When I bring up my interest in fixing it up to basic living standards to create a "home" (contributing equally, both financially and in "sweat equity") he questions why I need to change him and tells me that I insult him. All I can think is: here I am prepared to change my entire life for him and "us," yet he is incapable of meeting me halfway on some pretty basic things. So you see, I'm noticing a pattern of it being on his terms, all the time.
My questions for you are: How far is too far to bend and compromise? Am I sabotaging a perfectly good relationship because of impatience, or am I communicating healthy boundaries?
– The Bends, Boston
A: Ah, TB, I'm with you. You're being asked to bend until you break.
I might argue that flexibility isn't the only issue. The real problem seems to be whatever caused those break-ups and make-ups. You say that you've been off and on for two years. Why were you off so many times?
If this were a more solid relationship, you wouldn't be questioning what love you'd get in return for the move. If this were a more respectful relationship, your guy would be open to letting you change his house so that you're more comfortable there.
I have to wonder how this would work if you lived down the street from each other. Sometimes distance rips us apart. But sometimes it allows us to avoid talking about what's not working.
My advice is to ask your boyfriend to explain his vision for your shared future. Then you share yours -- home improvements included. Does your plan appeal to him at all? Does his plan appeal to you? And -- if he isn't ready for marriage, what would this move mean to him? Is it a test run for something? A real discussion about the what-ifs seems more productive than a spring deadline. Do some more talking and it'll either get better or blow up. That's how it goes.
At the moment, he's offering no ... "sweat equity." That's something all relationships need.
Readers? Is this relationship doomed? Should they be moving in after two rocky years? What does it mean that he doesn't want to get engaged? Does his child factor into this? Discuss.
– Meredith
Milan being Meredith yet again
Today is our last day of help from Bruin Milan Lucic. Video is up! (Sorry for the delay.) I think that with today's advice, he scores a hat trick. You'll notice that he references "He's Just Not That Into You" in his final answer. I swear he did that all by himself.
We'll skip today's chat. I know you all want to bail from work early (and should).
Again, tickets for the Love Letters/Movies event are on sale. We'll announce pre-party information soon. And the bracket with the films should be up early Dec.
As for tomorrow and Friday, I'll post some updates.
Q: I stumbled across Love Letters last fall when you published a story about a girl who had moved in with her boyfriend and he broke up with her rather abruptly. A friend sent me the link and I've been hooked ever since.
Moving to New York has been, without a doubt, the biggest change in my life. I'm still adjusting to the pace of the city and trying to find my way around a place where I don't know many people. Up until I moved here over the summer, I hadn't been dating for nearly a year -- a direct result of having gone through a nasty breakup with the Ex. Given that I'm in NYC for the long haul, I figured -- what better way to meet people than through dating?
I'm naturally a very shy person and have difficulty approaching people out of the blue, so I thought I'd try online dating first. As you can imagine, I met people who ran the gamut of sincerely nice to the disgustingly insane. There was one person who stood out from all the rest. He had e-mailed me to tell me he liked my profile, and while I wasn't interested at first, I decided to exchange e-mails with him. We corresponded for about a week, and since he wasn't mentioning it, I asked him out for coffee. He agreed to it with the tone of someone who at least sounded interested in meeting me.
The first date was fantastic, although I felt like I was left a little out in the cold at the end of the night when all I got was an awkward hug. However, a few days later, we made plans for a second date, which was just as great as the first. We spent all afternoon and evening together, and it wasn't until I realized that it was midnight that he suggested going home (separately, of course!). I had had a great time on both dates, and it seemed that he enjoyed hanging out with me too, but after the second date, I haven't heard from him at all.
Part of me worries that he wasn't really that interested in me. After all, if he were, he'd at least call or text, right? On the other hand, when we were together, everything seemed to point to him enjoying my company and wanting to see more of me, even going so far as to mention other things we could do "for next time." He did also mention that he tends to feel socially awkward at times, and doesn't always feel comfortable interacting with women.
All that being said, what do I do? It's been more than a month since our second date, and while I think it might be too late to follow up with him, I think he's a really great guy and someone I'd really love to know better. On the other hand, if he's not interested I don't want to be pushy and/or clingy where I'm not wanted. Help, please!
– Should I Call, New York
A: SIC, if you really need to send a note to make sure that your signals weren't crossed, fine, but I'm going to guess that it won't change anything.
He sounds like guy who's more comfortable e-mailing that asserting himself in the real world (after all, you had to initiate coffee), and I think that you're better off continuing to date other people until you find someone who prioritizes clarity. It'd be great if you found a guy who respects your time and makes it known if he wants to see you again. You shouldn’t have to waste so much energy guessing.
So, yes, send a quick note if you need closure, but balance that note by sending messages to a few more guys online. New York City is a big place populated by assertive people who know what they want. Living there isn't always easy. Try to make dating a bit simpler by walking away from people who confuse you.
Readers? Should she call? Should a shy person pursue a guy who feels awkward around women? Is online dating a good way to meet people? Discuss.
– Meredith
Milan being Meredith again
It's day two of Boston Bruin Milan Lucic helping us with Love Letters. If you missed yesterday's letter, it's here. Milan and I will answer one more letter tomorrow. I'll post updates that will carry us through Thursday and Friday.
Tickets for the Love Letters movie party are here.
Q: I know that I'm probably going to be criticized to death for this letter but I need someone who is impartial to give me a healthy dose of honesty.
My problem is that I'm 27 years old, in grad school part-time and working part-time. I have been in a relationship for four-and-a-half years. The man in question is amazingly wonderful, he's my best friend, and I truly enjoy spending time with him when we can (because of work/college, we live a few hours apart). We usually see each other Friday to Sunday unless I don't have to work, then I travel to him.
The problem is that I'm very much ready for marriage and have been for the past year. I have told him that this is what I want and that I want it with him. This weekend it all came to a head because I'm uncertain about our future. He has decided to take the MCAT and apply for medical school next year (which I applaud), which makes me wonder when will we marry. I asked him that, and he told me that marriage wasn't an option yet because he wanted to do it right -- a beautiful ring and a huge wedding. I absolutely would love that too, but in the absence of money I would be happy with a tiny affair, maybe a location wedding and a big family celebration later. But that's not what he wants at all. I feel that it is very unfair for him to ask me to wait for a life-time commitment until I'm in my mid to late 30s.
Right now we are a deadlock and I don't know what to do. I love him with my whole heart and believe that he could be the one, but if I stay with him I will give up on my hopes and dreams of having a family and being a wife.
What do I do? I'm so confused.
– Stubborn in Boston
A: SIB, are you fighting about the party or the marriage?
Does he want to be married to you? Does he want to commit to you? Does he want to start building a life with you? If so, he should be ready to show that in some way. Maybe the compromise is a long engagement. Maybe it's a small wedding and a party later. Maybe it's a commitment to save during med school with a plan to get married in a few years. What does he want to do? Did he really say he wanted to wait until he finished med school to seal the deal?
You're worried that he doesn't want to commit to you until he's Dr. Whatshisface, but that's not what he told you. He's claiming that it's not about the commitment -- that it's about having the right ring and ceremony.
Which is it? Find out what he means when he says he wants to wait and whether his delay has anything to do with doubts about the relationship. It seems to me that you're having two conversations and both lack honesty. You want to know whether he's in forever, meanwhile, he's talking about the wedding. Once you get real with each other, you'll find the compromise -- or you'll feel more comfortable moving on.
Readers? Are they debating the wedding or the marriage? Should the ceremony matter so much? Is his hesitation about commitment? Do you agree with Milan about weddings vs. marriages (and women)? Discuss.
– Meredith
Milan being Meredith
Remember to buy your tickets for the Love Letters/Movies event. Film critic Wesley Morris and I will be posting our favorite romantic movies soon. You'll vote on them bracket-style, and we'll screen the winning film Dec. 10.
We have a special guest on Love Letters today -- Milan Lucic of the Boston Bruins. Milan, 22, is the second athlete in my "Sports People Trying to Give Love Advice" series, which featured Manny Delcarmen earlier this year.
Milan answered some letters on Friday, the day after he earned a hat trick against Florida. (I hope I said that right.) Turns out, Milan is not only great at hockey -- he's also a natural at giving love advice. He oozed empathy. He was a natural. I hope he joins us again (and I hope his teammates don't make fun of him too much).
Q: So my boyfriend and I have been together for almost three years. Last year, we went through a little a rough patch. (OK, "little" might not be the best way to describe it.) He cheated on me twice, and the only reason why I found out is because I saw a text he sent to his friend about making out with two girls at a bar (so that's four different women). I confronted him about the text and he apologized and said it would never happen again. We had many discussions about it, and eventually we ended up getting back together (at this point I only knew about him kissing the two girls).
A month or two later, it came up in a conversation that he had slept with two separate women during that time as well. I wasn't really sure what to make of it. We had already worked through the first issue and were trying to put it in the past, yet, here it was again, cropping up worse than before. I was devastated. But I truly believed that he was sorry (not just sorry for getting caught), and that he was/is trying to be a better person.
But it's a year later and I still find it hard to trust him when he goes out with his friends. When we are together, everything feels great. But as soon as we are apart, I just get this gut feeling that we aren't right for each other -- that there isn't a future for us. He's my best friend, and when its good, its great, but when its bad, it's heartbreaking and painful. I'm obviously not over what happened last year.
I know the obvious answer is to break up. If I read this, that would totally be my advice. It's harder when you are in the situation. I'm not worried about being alone or not finding someone else because I am confident that I could find someone (and he's my first boyfriend, so I was alone for 21 years before meeting him, so I'm not worried about that either). But it has been three years and we are starting to talk about marriage, and I just can't figure out if I want that or not. I can picture our life together, and in a perfect world, we could have something great. But if I feel this way now about trusting him, won't it only get worse over time? Is there a way to fix this? Is there a tangible way to work on my trust issues?
– Jaded by Love, Boston
A: JBL, your boyfriend has been a pretty terrible best friend. He lied to you. He only told the truth after getting caught. Then, after telling the truth, he lied to you again. He cheated with four women. You can't undo that, certainly not within a year.
You don't want to start a marriage with big doubts, and at this point, I don't even know why marriage is on the table. Yes, breaking up with your closest companion is easier said than done, but that's why they say that breaking up is hard to do. Because it is. Because yes, you lose the bad, but you also have to say goodbye to the good.
Is there a way to fix the relationship? Not right now. Right now, you have to focus on you -- doing all that you can to experience what's out there so that you know what you deserve. Maybe you'll find that trust isn't so hard to come by when you're with someone who doesn't make out with girls at bars. Maybe you'll find that your boyfriend makes a better acquaintance than romantic partner. Or maybe, after some big learning experiences, the two of you will grow up and be together again. Maybe.
But for now, you're just a young woman who's dating a man who hasn't proved his worth. You don't have "trust issues." You just don't trust him. This isn't your problem to work on. If your gut is telling you that you have reason to worry, please listen to it.
Readers? Should the letter writer stay with her boyfriend? She says that she would advise someone in her shoes to bail, so why doesn't she? Can cheaters change? Can trust be restored? Thoughts on my advice? Milan's? Milan vs. Manny? Discuss.
– Meredith
I always expect the worst
Q: Meredith,
I am a 33-year-old guy who has been divorced for about a year and a half, and now I am having the same problem over and over. For history, while I have no proof that I was cheated on in my marriage, I think I was. The fact that someone (a friend of mine) moved in with my ex a month after I left makes me think so.
Now, anytime I meet someone I am interested in, I seem to have the same problem. Whenever I am with that person, I am funny, charming, confident, and very easy to get along with. But when I am not with them, I start thinking too much and can't get out of my own head. I seem to fall for people fairly fast and believe I come off too strong.
Just recently, I met someone I really like. She is successful and confident, and I think she would see any insecurities on my end as a turn off. She tells me how "we are quite similar" and that she enjoys my company, and that "the comfort we have had since day one has her a bit hesitant." The only word I hear is "hesitant" -- and now I'm just waiting for things to go bad. What is maddening is that my fears only take over when she's not around. What can I do?
– In My Head in New Hampshire
A: Ah, heads. Annoying, aren't they?
Your problem, IMHINH, is that you think that you're unique. You should see what's inside of my head. I imagine that when I'm dating someone, it looks like Alcatraz or "Labyrinth" in there.
We're all a wreck when we're lonely and dating. We're all preparing for potential loss. The only thing we can do is distract ourselves when we get super crazy. I highly recommend "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" marathons on Logo. That show is a real anxiety killer. I also recommend hanging out with friends as much as possible. They're a good reality check.
Yes, you have every reason to be extra insecure, but don't assume that this confident, successful woman doesn't have her own list of what-ifs. Perhaps she goes home after dates and stews about all that could go wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what she means when she says she's hesitant.
It's all about distractions and remembering that even if it goes sour, you're going to be OK. You've already been through the worst of it.
Readers? How do you get out of your head? Is it normal to sit around expecting the worst? Does this fear of failure mean that he hasn't dealt with his divorce? Discuss.
– Meredith
He lied about his divorce
Good morning. 1 p.m. chat.
Q: I'm going to get this out fast before I lose the nerve to send my emotional distress out into the universe for judgment. I've been with my boyfriend for three years and we've lived together for half that time. I'm in my late 20s and he is in his late 30s, divorced with kids.
Our relationship progressed pretty quickly -- we fell in love and experienced all of the wonderful things about a new romance. Overall, everything has been really good between us. We laugh together, travel together, and have planned our future together. My only concern throughout our relationship surrounds his divorce. Boyfriend does not like talking about it, didn't willingly share information about it, and doesn't like to answer my questions about it. From the beginning I assumed that his divorce was final (he never said otherwise), but I recently found out that the divorce wasn't legally finalized until last year (around the time we moved in together). I had a feeling this was the case because certain things did not add up but he kept denying it. I didn't want to press the subject because it would always end up in a fight and I wanted to believe him. He finally confessed.
I have no doubts about his feelings toward me and his dreams of being with me forever. The ex-wife is a non-issue for us as they have been separated for years. The delay with the divorce was simply technical difficulties with paperwork. My question to you and the readers is -- will I be able to trust him now that I know he has withheld information? He admits that he made a mistake and assures me that he was trying to protect me because I didn't deserve to go through it and he was afraid he would lose me. I understand that divorce is just an official legal date but I feel misled. Does his fear of loss -- and his attempt to protect me from the mess of his past relationship -- justify his long-lasting lie? I have been told by people who have gone through divorce how devastating and embarrassing it can be, so does this qualify him for a second chance? My heart wants to be with him but my head tells me this is a deal breaker. Boyfriend tells me he has never been happier in his life now that he is with me, but I'm not feeling too happy at the moment.
– Follow My Heart or Throw In The Towel?, Boston
A: "Does his fear of loss and his attempt to protect me from the mess of his past relationship justify his long-lasting lie?" No way, FMHOTITT. He caused you more pain by lying to you. But the lie only a deal-breaker if you want it to be. And really, it's only a deal-breaker if he doesn't understand why lying to you was wrong.
Did he apologize for the cover-up because he made you feel bad -- or because he truly understands that disclosure is necessary from now on? If you're going to stay together, 99.9 percent of his life is going to be your business. He has to be on board for that.
My advice is to ask. Ask as many questions as you want about the marriage and divorce. Ask about the kids. Ask about everything. If you get the sense that he's being closed off about anything, there's your red flag. "Boyfriend does not like talking about it, didn't willingly share information about it, and doesn't like to answer my questions about it." That just doesn't work. What if he was that way about money? Or his health? Protecting you means telling the truth. He either understands that or he doesn't.
Talk to him. Find out if this was really a learning experience for him. If not, consider that while your heart is important, your head (which is somehow attached to your gut) has a point.
Readers? Would you leave someone after three years if they lied to you about their divorce? Is this mistake more forgivable after three years than it would have been after one? Has he learned a real lesson? Does the pain and embarrassment of the divorce justify the lie? Get to it.
– Meredith
I don't like it when he travels
Q: Lately, I've been a pretty lucky girl. I met the perfect man for me and as of January 2011, we will be going on two years strong. We moved to the 'burbs together in the spring.
The boyfriend (let's call him Guy) is truly a great match for me. He's outgoing, smart, motivated, compassionate, and seriously handsome. I love that he comes from a great family. Essentially, everything is hunky-dory, right?
Eh. Not right. This is my first live-together relationship, and I'm not entirely sure if my behavior is, well, sane. Let me explain.
I work a fairly standard job downtown and commute every day. I'm home at the same time every night and I like this routine. I relish it. I travel infrequently (two or three times a year.) Besides my job, I have a small circle of very close friends and the friends I share with Guy. My life is quiet but after pretty wild adolescent and college years, it's what I love.
Guy, on the other hand, works a very high-pressure job. While he works a couple days a week with a similar schedule to mine, he also works nights and the occasional weekend, usually until quite late. His job requires him to travel much more often. He is planning an overseas trip next spring that will be at least two weeks long. He also gets gigs at the last possible minute and has had to cancel plans with me.
I never want to stand in the way of him and the work he loves, but I don't love it. Not one bit. When we were dating, he was working a very different job and we shared more friends. Now that he socializes in a different circle and works in such a high-profile world, I feel lonely and anxious. I worry that he'll up and leave me. I worry that I'm not exciting enough for him. I worry that one day, he simple won't come back. (I have abandonment issues from past experiences. All it takes is one bad relationship to seriously screw someone up!)
I love him so much and I've never doubted that fact. However, I feel so depressed when he leaves, so nervous that he'll return and not want me anymore. I feel stupid for thinking this, and angry with myself for doubting him. I'm surprised how lonely I get when he's not around. (I've spoken to him about this, and he's always said I'm crazy for thinking he'd ever walk out.)
So what do I do? What am I supposed to do when he works late, or when he leaves the country? What does it take to erase those abandonment fears? I'm young but I’m not THAT young. I don't think I should still be worrying about the man I love disappearing but I can't make it go away.
– Afraid of Being Afraid, Boston
A: What do you do when he works late, AOBA? You watch TV. You hang out with friends. You remind yourself that he misses you, too.
My guess is that you're romanticizing whatever it is he does on the road. You're imaging Guy going out with attractive people and living a better life. I'm not sure what he does for a living, but most likely, when he's out of town and finished with work for the day, he goes back to a hotel room and watches television. That's what people who travel for work do with their free time. They watch TV. They read. They get homesick. They eat alone at restaurants.
Some of my friends are traveling writers. It's tough on their boyfriends/girlfriends who are understandably anxious about what happens on the road. The truth is, most of my traveling writer friends spend much of their away time counting the days until they can come home. They love their jobs, but they often find themselves calling me from rental cars and airports, desperate to find out what they're missing back in Boston.
My advice is to tag along with him on a trip or shadow him during one of his late-night gigs. Tell him that you'll stay out of his way. See what his work is all about so that you can relax. And then, please, listen to Guy. He lives with you and is telling you that you're crazy for feeling insecure. Why not believe him?
Yes, he could bail at some point, but so could you. All relationships are risky. I'm not sure that yours is any more fragile because Guy is working some fancy job on the road. If anything, he's probably more psyched than ever that he has someone to come home to.
Readers? How can she calm her nerves? Am I being naive about Guy's road life? Is she meant to be with someone who travels less? Should she shadow him like I've suggested? Vintage Hall & Oates song of the day? Yes, please. And discuss.
– Meredith
Do men's websites offer good advice?
Q: Hi Meredith,
I've never had a problem meeting women. My problem has always been maintaining a long-term relationship. I dated the same girl from the age of 19 until 25. Things unfortunately didn't work out, and that led to my current predicament. Since the breakup, most of my relationships have only lasted between three and four months, and they usually end with the fun "you're a great guy, but ..." cliche. Obviously I'm doing something wrong. How do I figure out what it is? I will add that I have ended some relationships, but the majority of them have been ended by the girl.
I've asked my female friends for advice and they've told me to keep doing what I'm doing and eventually someone will realize what they have in me. Not terrible advice, but it hasn't solved my problem. I've also tried using Google -- and that brought me to various advice sites for men (AskMen.com and the like). The only things I've gathered from them is that I should be confident, aloof, and act like the last thing on Earth I would want to do is spend time with a girl. Is that stuff true? And how would I know when to stop acting that way?
Is it possible to meet a girl and build a relationship while being myself? Do I follow the advice men's sites provide? I know I have a lot to offer. I'm not needy, clingy, or jealous. I have a job I love, a great group of friends, a house that keeps me way too busy, and plenty of my own hobbies and interests. How do I find someone to share that with? Trying to figure this out has been driving me crazy. It feels like I'm looking for the answer to a riddle I'll never figure out.
– Frustrated & Confused, Keller, Texas
A: I just spent about an hour on AskMen.com to see what you've been reading, F&C.
Some of it is ridiculous. The advice section of the site seems to be one big advertisement for a book written by an advice columnist named "Doc Love." And then there's a guide to faking a male orgasm. (As if that kind of lie is going to help anyone.) There are also a number of photo galleries of lovely ladies in tight dresses. (I don't know who Lucy Pinder is, but whoa. Good for her.)
I will say that there are a few not-so-terrible features on the site. I didn't hate the Top 10 gallery about ways to improve relationships. And who doesn't want a good Greek yogurt recipe?
My assessment of your situation is that you are capable of a long-term relationship. In fact, you had one that lasted for half of your 20s. Now you're just dating. You're ending mediocre relationships or having them ended for you. That sounds pretty normal to me. Remember that most people were doing the unsuccessful dating thing in their early 20s while you had a girlfriend. Most of us have to date around at some point.
I'm with your female friends -- keep doing what you're doing. Finding the right partner isn't always easy. It's even more difficult if you use weird tips from men's dating sites to manipulate women. I mean, if you can't be yourself, what’s the point?
All I can advise you to do is to make sure that your busy life doesn't isolate you. Keep meeting new people. Relax.
And my final piece of advice: only trust advice columnists who tell you their real names. (Yes, that includes Margo Howard, Dan Savage, and, of course, Miss Conduct, who we know is Robin Abrahams.)
Readers? Is there a problem here? Anything worthwhile from men's sites? Discuss.
– Meredith (thinking I should buy the rights to AskMere.com)
Should I disclose my health problems?
I'm hunting for updates to run over the holidays. I'll be reaching out to past letter writers, but if you're a letter writer who wants to take the initiative and update me on your own, please do. E-mail me from the address you used to send the original letter so I know it's really you. Put "update" in the subject line.
Here's a letter about kidneys before the weekend.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I love your column and all the great advice you give, so I'm hoping you can now assist me. About 7 months ago I was diagnosed with severe kidney disease and renal (kidney) cancer. I am in my 40s, single, and divorced for many years with adult children. After going through all of this alone it has recently started to bother me that I'm single. I would like to meet someone, whereas in the past I really never cared if I was single or not. My question is, do I tell the person I meet about my condition right away or do I wait? And if I wait, how long do I wait? Although the cancer is gone, the kidney disease will never go away, so part of me feels like it's not fair to be a burden on someone. The other part of me says I have the right to meet someone and be happy.
Any advice you or the readers could give is appreciated.
– Me and my kidneys, Bridgewater
A: Not to be a downer, MAMK, but once you're in your 40s, most people in your social circle will have some sort of ailment or chronic illness. You're not damaged goods. I mean, your kidneys are damaged, but that happens. You're not looking for someone to play nurse. You're looking for a partner for the fun stuff, right?
You don't have to share your medical history "right away." I assume that when you meet someone and really get talking about the past few years, you'll organically mention that you were a total hotshot and survived cancer and that you now cope with less-than-cooperative kidneys. You don't have to disclose the experience as if it's a big red flag on your dating resume. Really, most people would rather date a nice person with damaged kidneys than a healthy person who's kind of a drag.
You do deserve to meet someone. So smile. Be nice. Enjoy the company of others. Let the health history come up naturally. And don't be ashamed of it. We're all living in human bodies. We do the best we can.
(And please -- join a support group for people who deal with kidney issues. It'll help you expand your community and answer your big questions.)
Readers? How soon should she share her medical history? Are you less likely to date a person with a chronic illness? Discuss.
– Meredith
How did he move on so quickly?
Q: Hi Meredith,
My relationship of close to two years recently came to an end. In the beginning things were perfect between "Joe" and I. We had great chemistry, shared many interests, and genuinely loved spending time with each other.
However, the last several months of our relationship were not that great. I was unhappy at work and having problems with my roommate. I took a lot of my frustrations out on Joe. I became dependent on him because I feared losing him, and I spent little time with my friends. I picked fights with Joe for no reason, or simply because I was unhappy with my job. Slowly, he began to withdraw. He finally had enough and broke up with me.
Since our breakup I changed companies and I'm now living on my own. My relationship with my former roommate is perfect and I'm no longer depending on one person for a social life. I'm going out again, meeting up with old friends, and really enjoying my new freedom.
The only thing that's missing is Joe. I still love him and I think about him constantly. The two of us said that our relationship was the most meaningful one that either of us had ever had. I pictured myself marrying him and having children with him one day. If I could change the last months of our relationship, I would in a heartbeat.
However, a week after we officially broke up, Joe started dating someone else. The new girl, "Jane," is from the same town as him. They met through friends and are now in an exclusive relationship.
I'm devastated. It's been a little over three months since we broke up, and I agree the two of us need to move on, but how can he move on so quickly? When we broke up he told me that he was not a relationship guy, that he didn't know what he wanted. But now he is practically in another relationship with someone else.
When will I be able to move on? I lost a wonderful guy because of my inability to handle my own drama, and I also lost my sense of pride. I gave everything to him and I was there for him through thick and thin. I thought about him constantly, bought him things he needed, cooked him dinners, helped him with work. How can I be replaced so quickly? Was I really that bad? Is this a rebound, or do I just have to suck it up and deal with the fact that I lost him and things will never go back to the way they were?
– Upset and Not Ready to Move On, Boston
A: How can he move on so quickly, UANRTMO? He didn't. He moved on over a period of months. Every time you fought about something that had nothing to do with him, he took a step away. Every time you seemed dependent and unwilling to see friends, he took another step. For him, this is a long time coming.
But can I point out a few things? Yes, you loved him. But you used him as a punching bag knowing full well that he might leave. A part of me believes that you not-so-subconsciously instigated this break-up -- that by misbehaving with Joe you were really forcing yourself to make positive changes on your own terms.
You did things to put your relationship at risk. And he is dating someone else -- which means he's willing to risk losing the best version of you. That's where you are. You're both responsible, and despite missing him, I'm not sure you'd want it any other way right now.
My advice is pretty basic -- to learn from your experience and go out and date. He knows you want him back, right? Now all you can do is live. And remember what you told us -- that you're a cool, independent person who knows how to cope with difficult situations. Maybe this new, better version of yourself wouldn't put up with the real Joe. Go find some alternatives.
Readers? Am I right to say that she did this on purpose? Would he have left anyway? Is she to blame for his departure? How did he move on so fast? Did he? Any chance for reconciliation? Talk.
– Meredith
He wants to work with me
Q: Dear Meredith and Loyal Readers,
I might be in the biggest possible pickle of my life. OK, well not the biggest, but it's up there. I had been dating a guy for about a year and we talked about moving in together when my lease was up this winter. He got scared back in August and decided that he needed to take a step back. Which is fine. We're both 27 and I'd rather him be sure than not sure. Granted, we've talked every day since his decision to take a step back, and we see each other on occasion. Although at times it doesn't seem romantic, I still have a little bit of a flame flickering for him.
That little flame, unfortunately, is the least of my problems.
My problem is the bombshell he dropped on me this afternoon. Hold on, let me back up to Friday. Friday night he met me for a drink and a movie. The conversation over the drink was great. Things seemed to be going well and I was hopeful that we might be taking a step back in the right direction. I decided not to get my hopes up and talked myself into letting things progress naturally. Why push the subject if there's no subject to push yet, right? The drive home was also great and we talked about when we could see each other again. He was very active in communicating the rest of the weekend, which surprised me a little.
Fast forward to Monday morning. So he IMs me from "ABC Company," where he works, and we chat throughout the day. We made plans for the next week and mentioned an event he thought we would both like to attend in December.
Then, shortly after lunch, he told me he was interested in my company, "XYZ Company," which is ironically down the road from ABC. Needless to say, I felt like I was punched in the stomach. I know how miserable he is at ABC and that he would like it at XYZ. So I told him I would pass on his resume to the HR Director. He said he would put together his resume this week and send it over to me to pass along.
Here's what I'm thinking -- that this is the end of the chances of us getting back together. Do office romances really work in the long run? So what should I do? Do I actually pass along his very qualified resume or do I lie and say we're on a hiring freeze and continue on with our current situation? I know it sounds selfish if I lie but do I consider my feelings or his? What a mess.
Please help!!!!!!
– Stuck Between a Rock & My Heart Place, Burlington
A: I wouldn't worry about an office romance at the moment because I'm not quite sure you're in an out-of-office romance. Are you still together? How would you define your relationship, SBAR&MHP?
You have to be selfish. But you also have to be honest. Tell Mr. I'm-taking-a-step-back that you're a bit confused about the status of your relationship and that having him in an office down the hall won't help. He's more than welcome to apply for a job at ABC Company, but he shouldn't be asking you to facilitate. You're doing a lot for him -- stepping back, stepping forward, being a friend, being more than a friend. Let's be honest -- it hurts, right? Can he consider your feelings for a few minutes or more?
Maybe he'll be ticked off that you don't want to help him. Maybe he'll stomp his feet because he's used to getting his way. Or maybe he'll say, "Wow -- I've been a bit selfish, and I had no idea this hasn't been easy for you. Let's get back together and make out."
Maybe. But don't lie -- to him or yourself. This step-back thing has felt like a break-up, and you certainly wouldn’t a recent ex to be bumping your cubicle with his own, at least not right now. Right?
Readers? Should she pass on his resume? Was he wrong to ask? Should she be worrying about office romances? Was he suddenly being nice to get her to support him at ABC? Discuss.
– Meredith
Am I manipulating him?
Q: Hello Meredith,
I'll just jump right in. I've been dating "Tom" for more than three years now. He's in his early 40s and I'm in my early 30s. Neither of us have ever been married. We've been living together for about a year, the first for both of us. We've been talking about and looking for houses, and over the course of conversation about the houses, kids have been brought up (mostly by me, but occasionally by him).
Everything was going great until last night, when I brought up marriage. I said, "So we've talked about the house and the kids … what about that other thing that goes with it?" I honestly felt safe bringing it up since we'd already gone there in my mind. He freaked out. He said that I was manipulating him and backing him into a corner, and that the only thing that he could say to a question like that is "yes, I want to marry you." He also said that if and when he decides he wants to marry me is entirely up to him.
This is just absolutely crushing to me. I know that all of his previous relationships (and there were several long ones) ended because the girls wanted to get married. I honestly thought that since we had already been talking about houses and kids that we were on the same page, and obviously we're not. I'm at a complete loss. I thought that I could go there. The only resolution in his mind for the argument was for me to apologize for manipulating him. I told him that I could not apologize in good conscience for something that I honestly didn't feel like I was doing. My questions are as follows. Was it wrong of me to bring it up? Am I manipulating him? Should it be his decision solely if and when he decides?
– Susie, Boston
A: Susie, you're not manipulating him. The word "marriage" obviously makes him lose his marbles. You were not wrong to bring it up. He was wrong to punish you.
He behaved like a baby. He said some ridiculous things. But your question -- the "what about that other thing that goes with it?" question -- it was a request for a proposal, right? He might not be ready for that.
Don't apologize, but do have the conversation again. Explain that you're overwhelmed and confused by his response. You're not trying to trap him. You're just hoping that growing old together is a possibility. Why else would you be buying a house together? Marriage aside -- how does he feel about maybe spending the rest of his life with you? How does he feel about sticking around? What does the house hunt mean to him? My advice is to be as specific as you can with your questions. Tell him that "I don't know" is always an acceptable answer.
If he really can't have the conversation, well, then I'm at a loss, too. Manipulating him? Come on. You're allowed to ask tough questions. He doesn't have to have answers, but he's not supposed to yell at you.
Readers? Is this about how she asked the question? Was she being manipulative? Does his reaction mean that he’ll never commit? How can she deal with his irrational reaction? Should she apologize? Discuss.
– Meredith
My crush is engaged
Q: I can't believe I'm writing this all down, but here goes. I met this man through a friend about a month ago. We are both in our late 20s. The night we met we instantly hit it off -- common interests, same sense of humor, the whole deal, we just clicked. I never meet anyone I click with, so I was ecstatic. He asked for my number and started texting me almost immediately.
The next day, I e-mailed our mutual friend to ask about him, and she broke the devastating news that Mr. Perfect was, in fact, Mr. Engaged. I was baffled. We had talked the whole night and he didn't mention anything about a girlfriend, let alone a fiancée. From his behavior I would never have imagined that he was attached. I convinced myself I'd misread all his signs and that Mr. Engaged just wanted to be my friend.
Well, before I knew it, we were texting all day every day, and constantly making plans to hang out (always in a group). But even in the group setting we just find ourselves in our own conversation talking and flirting. A few nights ago he asked me on a date. Hesitant to go out alone I asked one of my friends to come with. Later in the night he flat out told me that he liked me. I told him that it wasn't fair, that I am the only one getting hurt in this situation and that I wish we had met at a different point in both of our lives.
My friend took me away at that point and tried to end the conversation knowing very well it wouldn't lead to anything productive.
Since then nothing has changed. We still talk, text and hang out all the time. He never speaks of his fiancée with the exception of one or two brief conversations where she has come up. I find myself constantly thinking about him and wondering what he is doing. It is so difficult for me to find someone to connect with and when I finally do, he is engaged. I am not out to ruin their relationship, but I do not know what to do. The rational side of me knows I should run, I should never have gotten involved to begin with, but I can't seem to help myself.
And since I know all the readers are probably wondering -- they're in a long distance relationship right now. They only see each other once a week, and when he is with her, he is still texting me.
– Wondering What Could Happen, Boston
A: I suppose your question is in your sign-off, WWCH. But I think you know the answer. Nothing good can happen. Not with a guy who's leading you on while lying to his fiancée. He's either really into you and too confused and cowardly to deal with his engagement, or he's using you as a placeholder while his fiancée is away. Either way, it's bad news.
Of course, you're using him as a placeholder, too. He's special because you like him, but if you had another nice guy to text and hang with, you'd drop Mr. Engaged.
You know what I'm going to advise you to do, but I'll say it anyway. Tell Mr. Engaged that you're looking for the real thing and that you're not comfortable dating someone who's already betrothed. Delete his number from your phone. If he shows up on your doorstep single (and I wouldn't put it past him) we can talk more then, but for the moment, I'd rather you be single, lonely, and looking for something right than filling the void with something wrong.
Loneliness makes us do things we're not proud of, but at some point, we have to hold ourselves accountable. Be good to yourself and walk away.
Readers? How can she say no to the attention when she has been so lonely? Is this guy going to drop his fiancée for the letter writer, and if so, should the letter writer date him? Am I right that they're simply using each other as placeholders for what they really want? How does one learn self-control in these situations? Discuss.
– Meredith
We're so shy
I posted this note in the comments section yesterday after it seemed that people were not being respectful in the comments section:
Hi all,
I'd ask that people refrain from attacking one another – it's just not the point of things here. I want Love Letters to be fun, helpful -- and banter is certainly a part of that, but heckling, bullying, revealing people's personal identities, and over-the-top mean-spirited comments are not.
99.9 percent of you know what crosses the line. Those who don't will be blocked. And please, try to ignore those who do cross the line. Not worth the energy.
Now go back to being fabulous, please.
-- Meredith
Please be respectful. Please do not alienate other users. Use common sense. Those who go out of their way to make users uncomfortable will be contacted, etc.
I'm cute when I'm mean, right?
And now I ask that you help this letter writer. And read the winners of the "Love and Redemption" contest.
Q: Dear Meredith,
Somewhat recently, I was at a party and was introduced to a really wonderful guy. We have some mutual friends, but our paths had only crossed very briefly before. Both of us are on the shy side, so other party guests were surprised at how immediately comfortable we were chatting with one another.
He was very kind and intelligent and funny and easy to talk to. He asked for my number and if he could take me out on a date sometime. I was enthusiastic at the prospect of all of this going as planned.
After the party, I learned that this was a huge deal for him to put himself out there like this, and everyone was surprised. But an important side note -- he had also had liquid courage on his side so. While he deserves credit, so does Bud Light.
All of this sounds very promising right? Or it did to me at least, haha. The next day I sent him a text just to say it was great meeting him blah, blah, blah. And he responded that he'd call me over the weekend to hang out. I unexpectedly was out of town for the weekend and let him know, and he responded by saying have a good weekend then.
Fast forward approximately three weeks and we are at another party hosted by the same mutual friend. I came to the party solo, but all of his closest friends (all of whom had witnessed our previous encounter) were there. We greeted each other but both of us quickly went back to being our shy selves.
At the beginning of the night, we didn't chat much, though our attention was clearly partly focused on one another. I would glance over at him, only to catch him glancing at me. It was as though both of us were waiting around for the other to strike up conversation.
Eventually, I decided I had nothing to lose and thought it would be worthwhile to find out why he batted zero on the follow through. I approached him and said I wasn't trying to be rude, but wanted him to know that I was disappointed he never followed through. He responded by suggesting it wasn't him that decided the outcome, or lack thereof, and acted somewhat defensive (but in a very adorable way).
Then we were interrupted, as it was a rather large and loud party. I moved on to a conversation with a friend from way back who's known for being a flirtatious charmer type. The guy I actually like happened to witness this, and knowing the charmer's ways, promptly decided to give up on me. We didn't really talk for the rest of the night and that was that. But, again, I had zero interest in the other guy. I merely gave him the time of day because I didn't want to be rude. Nor did I anticipate anyone thinking anything of it.
So now I am stuck. I can't seem to let go of this shy but wonderful guy. Ordinarily, I would just move right along but I keep thinking about how this all should have worked out, which tells me I need to find out definitively where he stands.
I keep on thinking I will run into him, but that has yet to happen. If I did, I'd be comfortable suggesting we start from scratch and try to go on a date. But I'm afraid I won't run into him, so I am contemplating sending a text or initiating some other form of contact.
However, I worry that too many mixed messages are floating around. And there are lots of questions. Would he actually want to go on a date with me? Did he really ignore because he thought the charmer would win? Wouldn't he have tried harder if he was really interested? And most important of all, has too much time passed? (It's been about a month since the last encounter).
Any advice at all would be so greatly appreciated.
– A cowardly (and somewhat confused) lion
A: ACASCL, you have to ask him out. He asked you once and you were busy. For whatever reason, he decided that the ball was in your court.
You're both shy. You're both staring at each other from across the room. You both want to interact but don't know how. And now he's probably sitting around thinking, "I lost out to a suave idiot who trumped me at the party. Has too much time passed?"
Call him (and I mean call, don't text). I'm not saying that he shouldn't have followed up, but I am saying that he made some big first steps. Help him out and see where it goes. A month isn't a long time, but please, do this soon.
As you put it, you've got nothing to lose.
Readers? Should he have followed up with her? Can cowardly lions date each other? Should she text or call? Has too much time passed? Discuss.
– Meredith
I hate his friend
Q: I have been in a relationship with my boyfriend for two years. Let's call him Steve. We moved in together a year ago. We have talked about marriage, and when we are ready -- both mentally and financially -- we hope to grow old together. There is one problem I just can't get over: his best friend.
They grew up together, and I realize that you don't know who someone is morally when you are sharing a shovel in the sandbox. But at what point do you have to say enough is enough? Steve's friend doesn't believe in "one girlfriend," but also doesn't believe in sharing this information with the girls he is sleeping with. In one particular instance (before I knew the real him) I became friendly with one of his girlfriends only to find out from Steve that he had slept with at least 10 other women while dating her. I was devastated. I wanted nothing to do with him especially if I was becoming friendly with those he was hurting. This friend also slept with a good friend of mine and I had the horrible task of sitting her down and gently telling her that he wasn't going to call her back.
Not only is he a habitual cheater, he has tried to influence Steve to be the same way. Whenever Steve is around him, he is not the Steve I know -- the Steve who says he will be home later and actually comes home later, not the next day. Steve even missed a birthday dinner from my family with cake and presents because he was out with this friend and the friend was driving and didn't feel like coming home yet. Steve admits he was wrong in many of the incidents but they don’t change.
I know I can't ask Steve to stop being friends with this person, but this is really affecting our relationship. It makes me question Steve's faithfulness. Steve and I have had many talks about this friend, and he has agreed that this friend isn't doing the right thing and is hurting the feelings of many women/people, but he doesn't do anything about it. I recognize that as much as I am mad at this friend, Steve is not innocent, but I don't know what to do since talking with him is not working.
Help!
– Annoyed in the city
A: Most of the time, AITC, I tell people that they should be able to survive their partner's horrible friends. I advise them to respect their partner's histories with these people and to simply avoid social outings with the undesirables whenever possible.
But in your case, I'm on your side. Big time.
It's fine if your boyfriend's friend wants to be a villainous cheater, but he's not allowed to mistreat your friends. It is a major party foul to mess with your best friend's girlfriend’s friends. Really, it's inexcusable.
Your boyfriend's behavior is also inexcusable. He goes out with this guy and doesn't return until the next day? And he missed your family event because of this he was running around with this idiot? Bad, bad, bad.
Usually, when we outgrow our childish, misbehaving friends, we learn to minimize them. We take them out for their birthdays, we roll our eyes when we go to their parties, and we try to focus on nostalgia when it becomes clear that their priorities no longer match our own.
But Steve's relationship with his friend is not about nostalgia. He actually likes hanging out with this guy.
You have every right to make demands. Steve doesn't have to cut this guy out of his life, but he does have to minimize him and set boundaries. You shouldn't have to hang out with the bad friend. You shouldn't have to sit up worrying when Steve is out with this guy. There are consequences to Steve's actions and "He made me do it!" isn't an acceptable excuse. It's ruining your relationship. You're allowed to hold him accountable.
If he has no interest in minimizing this friend and following rules that keep you comfortable, it's a red flag. Don't ignore it. He has to choose.
Readers? Is she allowed to ask the boyfriend to dump his friend? What does it mean that the friend has such influence? Is there cause for concern about cheating? Anyone had a significant other with a bad influence? Talk.
– Meredith
He smells like smoke
Q: I have been dating my fiance for about three years and we moved in together about six months ago. We became engaged about two months ago. I am in my late 20s and he is in his early 30s. Things have been good and seem to be on track, but there is one issue that comes between us constantly.
He is a smoker and I am a non-smoker. This was always an issue from the beginning, but it became tolerable when we found a way to compromise. He cut back and never smoked around me, and whenever he came inside he would wash his hands and brush his teeth. That seemed to work.
Now that we are living together, things have changed. I'm not sure if he is smoking more or if I'm noticing it more because we are constantly together now. He still goes outside to smoke but he has dropped the routine of washing his hands and brushing his teeth and he brings the stench inside with him.
The main problem is that it has gotten to the point where I don't even want to kiss him and that has definitely put a strain on our intimate relationship.
He knows how much I hate it, and when I make comments about it and ask him to wash his hands, he seems to get frustrated with me. I don't know how to mention how much it bothers me without getting him mad or having him become defensive. The conversation always turns into an argument. Maybe I'm saying it the wrong way.
So, how do I get him to try to quit smoking or at least cut back? If he won't quit, how do I get him back on the same routine as before? Do I even have the right to ask such things of him? I love him and I want to be intimate with my future husband but I can't get around the smoky breath, hands, and clothes. It is such a turn off. How do I fix it?
– Concerned, Boston
A: Well, you've both failed to compromise. He promised he'd wash his hands and he hasn't. And you said you wouldn't push him to quit but you're making it clear that you want him to.
My advice is to start over with a new plan. Reestablish the terms. Explain my theory (you can take all credit) -- that you've both misbehaved -- and he'll probably be open to a discussion. Tell him that you just want to be able to love living with him and to grab his face and kiss him without tasting nicotine. Come up with new rules that you both can follow.
And invest in some major air filters. Put them all over the house.
And if you really want him to quit, if that's the bottom line, please be honest and tell him that. You're marrying a smoker. That's your reality. If he intends to smoke for the rest of his life -- if on cold winter nights he's going to be out on the porch with a pack of butts -- well, that's something to really consider. Better to draw a line in the sand before you walk down the aisle.
Readers? Am I right? Did they both fail? Can she ask him to quit? Is this just about adjustment after the move-in? Is this something they can learn to live with? Discuss.
– Meredith
She's dating a professional pick-up artist
"Love and Redemption" contest winners will be notified by the end of the day.
And excuse my long answer on this one. When I get going on this topic I can't stop.
Q: M, my sis-in-law began dating a suave, polite, cosmopolitan Englishman recently, and has become quite smitten. My wife received a Facebook note from one of E-man's ex's. She is clearly a vindictive, scorned ex, but she volunteered some alarming and verifiable allegations.
Turns out, this guy is a professional pick-up artist coach -- a Hall of Famer, in fact, according to the website. My wife and I have scoured this site and found blogs by this guy that are absolutely misogynistic -- appalling stuff. Would-be pick-up artists pay thousands to be coached by this guy and others in the science of manipulating women into bed, mostly, and otherwise having their way.
My sis-in-law is "in love" and seems to be willfully dismissing all rational thinking, convincing herself that none of this guy's behavior applies in their relationship. We are extremely frustrated and scared that she is heading for a train wreck with this guy. Any thoughts on how to get her to see the obvious?
– Concerned, Boston
A: Last year, a pick-up artist program called Love Systems allowed me to shadow one of its weekend seminars in Boston and write a column about it. Go ahead and a read that. The experience was as upsetting and weird as I thought it would be.
I got the impression that some of the guys in the program were looking to score with as many women as possible. And by score, I don't even mean sex. Some of them just wanted to prove that they could get phone numbers.
But I also met some students who were simply insecure and totally clueless about how to approach straight women. They told me they wanted to use the Love Systems class to find a long-term partner. They wanted to learn how to show off their best attributes. They believed that spending thousands of dollars on this program was the answer.
So the question is, what kind of guy is your sis-in-law's boyfriend? Did he get involved with the pick-up stuff because he was a shy person looking for a boost? What was his motivation? Was it sex? Power? The misogynist blog posts make me glass-half-empty about his potential, but you never know. Maybe there's a nice geek under that sexy, pick-up exterior. Maybe that geek feels ridiculous about his past.
My advice is to ask him. Tell him that you Googled him and discovered his pick-up history. Ask him what the pick-up experience meant to him. Look interested and friendly when you ask, and allow him to run his mouth -- in front of the sis-in-law.
And remember that in the end, this is up to the sis. If she wants to date a pick-up master, fine. You're just supposed to be there for her if/when it doesn't work out. And if it does work out, you're going to have to learn to be nice. It won't be easy. Someone should offer a seminar for that.
Readers? Should the letter writer ask the sister-in-law's boyfriend about his pick-up past? Anyone want to defend the pick-up routine? Can a former pick-up guy have a respectful relationship? Discuss.
– Meredith
The ex still finishes my sentences
Q: Longtime lurker, first time writer.
I dated my ex for five years including a few months living together after college. He had his share of problems, which he frequently took out on me, and very few friends. This was exacerbated by his problem with alcohol.
To make a long story short, he broke up with me saying he just didn't feel like he used to but there wasn't anyone else. A few days later my gut told me something wasn't right about it and I used my "resources" to find out the truth, which was that he had been cheating for months with someone I had considered a close friend. (FYI for Meredith and readers, I am not the jealous type at all and do not typically snoop, spy, or anything of the sort. I am actually usually more trusting than is deserved! Sometimes you really SHOULD listen to your own intuition!)
After the break-up, I started dating a good friend who I've known since before the ex and I even met. My family and friends can't stop gushing about how much they love seeing me with the current bf. He is wonderful in more ways than I could ask for … good to me, fun, social, responsible, family-oriented, the best grilled cheese sandwiches … but I can't get rid of this nagging feeling that the ex and I were meant for each other. I've never had anyone "get" me like that, and I don't think it's just the five years. An example: the current boyfriend tries to finish my sentence but is usually incorrect. With the ex, he didn't even have to finish my sentence if I was at a loss for words because he already knew exactly what I was trying to say.
I understand that it probably sounds silly. I have the current boyfriend who is everything I want on paper and is an incredible person, and then there's the ex who doesn't deserve me and maybe never did, but we have that deeper connection. The ex and I still talk on occasion (yes, the current bf is aware of this). He has also been dating someone else for a while now, but we have talked about how neither of us currently has the connection we had (and still have) with each other.
I have no delusions about the relationship with the ex being perfect, but when someone has betrayed your trust in such a major way, is there any coming back from that? Am I wrong to compare the current boyfriend to someone who treated me as if I was disposable? I already feel like I'm damaged goods and possibly not capable of loving the way I used to. Am I even more damaged and broken than I realized?
I always think that the songs that ring true to you tell you more about yourself than you might already be aware of. Before things even ended with the ex, the Sara Bareilles song "Gravity" hit me to the core, and currently La Roux’s “Bulletproof” is having that effect.
– I've Been Thinking of Writing This For Months Now, Boston
A: OK, IBTOWTFMN, if these songs tell us about you, let's look at "Gravity," shall we?
A sample lyric: "The one thing that I still know is that you're keeping me down."
"Bulletproof" isn't any more uplifting: "All you do is fill me up with doubt."
The ex fills you up with doubt. Who cares if he finishes your sentences?
I do believe that he "gets" you, but that's not enough. I'd rather have you spend the rest of your life with someone who wants to learn how to finish your sentences than with a guy who already knows how to finish them but is happy to leave you and date someone else.
I don't believe in soul mates, but I do believe in people who seem like soul mates. They're often very exciting, very perceptive, and not quite right for the long haul. I don't know why that is. All I know is that your ex bailed and that the new guy is here, making good on his word. That makes me think that the new guy gets you more than you think. He knows what he has.
Your strong feelings for your ex are just a confusing mix of loss, anger, pain, rejection, and love. It's difficult to feel so much for someone without assuming that those intense feelings mean that you want to be with them. Try to untangle those feelings and see them for what they are.
My guess is that after five years or so, the new boyfriend will be better at finishing your sentences. And in the meantime, tell him to let you finish them on your own. Less annoying that way.
Readers? Want to suggest any songs for the letter writer? Is this ex as important as she thinks he is? Does the ex actually want her back? Does her letter imply that she doesn't quite dig the new guy enough to stay with him? Advice? Shall we check out the video? Discuss.
– Meredith
Am I a bad person for ending it?
Chat at 1.
Q: I just broke up with my significant other ... due to some things about him that I found distasteful. Like certain mispronunciations he makes that make him appear less intelligent, and a strange facial tic.
I don't think he can change these things, and I don’t think I could stand them forever. He treated me very well and is a good person. I thought that I loved him, but recently these habits began to really bother me. Am I just a coldhearted witch for not being able to overlook the small things and be grateful for the good? At my age, should I just have been happy to have a partner that treated me well? (We are both hard-working, divorced, over-40 adults and have been together less than a year.) Thank you for any insight! (If it makes a difference, I am female!)
– Coldhearted Witch
A: One of my wise acquaintances always says that if it bothers you now, it will drive you crazy in a few decades.
You're not supposed to have unreasonable expectations for suitors (and that's not an age thing -- there's no Prince Charming), but if life without this guy seems more appealing than life with him, you were right to leave, CW.
If it makes you feel less witchy, I'm pretty sure this isn't about the tic. It's the whole package. When you're really in deep with someone, tics and mispronunciations are forgivable. Maybe even cute.
We're supposed to be realistic. But we're not supposed to settle for someone we don't really want simply because we're over 40 and they're nice. If you were a real witch (and I mean "witch" in the scary, green, "Wizard of Oz" sense, not the I-live-in-Salem-and-practice-Wicca sense), you would have stayed with someone you didn't love simply because you were afraid of being alone. If you're a witch, you're a good witch.
Readers? Am I right? Is she overlooking too much good? Is this really about the tic and the pronunciations? Should her age matter? Discuss.
– Meredith
My mom hates him
Q: Dear Meredith,
Here are the facts: I am in love with my ex-boyfriend and he is in love with me. We are both divorced from marriages that lacked affection, communication, etc. -- things we both need in a relationship. We have been in each other's lives for the better part of 17 years.
Ten years ago, I made a big move to be with him, and he decided 10 days later to disappear. It was agony and instant devastation for me. Although we were in our early 20s, I truly had no doubts about being with this man (obviously he had doubts about me). In hindsight, I may have dramatized the break-up because I was incredibly hurt. I even moved out of the country to try and find a retreat to heal, and five years later I was still seeking answers. I finally worked up the courage to contact him and ask him outright. He said he had tried to contact me and even knew my previous addresses. I had been blaming myself for years when in reality, it was his issues.
The thing is, we rushed in, and because I was so devastated, everyone around me now hates him for leaving me somewhat stranded the way he did. My mother thinks he was a complete coward. He and I keep in touch regularly and we truly believe that maybe now that we are older and surer of ourselves and each other -- that we could have 'our time' and be truly happy. I would like to at least try because I have no desire to move on until I've given it one more chance.
Recently, I have tried to work his name into the conversations with my mother and she told me that if I ever try to contact him again, she would walk out of my life because it would put her in her grave. (Talk about drama!) This is a man who really screwed up, but it’s not unforgivable in my mind -- because I have never stopped being in love with him. Don't get me wrong, he will have to move mountains to prove himself.
I just don't know how we can try this when my mother is placing such a huge ultimatum on me. He and I are willing to fight this fight together but hurting her (and I truly believe it would affect her health) is scary. How can we help her be more comfortable to let us try this again? I was thinking that seeing a therapist, maybe all together might give her a chance to really get to know him better, as well as get some concerns on the table for discussion. Plus it would show a real effort on our parts that I hope she can recognize we are doing for ourselves but also because we care so much about her. We want her in our lives and being apart makes us so unhappy..
– A Mum-timatum, Boston
A: AM, I'd hate for you to start this relationship in a therapist's office with your mom. Talk about a not-so-sexy way to reunite with your ex.
This is between you and your mom, not your ex and your mom. People ditch one another all the time in their 20s. Assuming you're telling us everything (and this guy isn't some sort of criminal), your mother's fears are about your reaction to the break-up. It's up to you to assure her that this time around, you're not going to move out of the country if you get hurt.
All you can do is say to Mom, "Listen, this guy and I dated when we were both young and dumb. And I realize he was a total idiot. But I'd like to give him one more chance -- because frankly, I was a bit too invested back then, and I'd like to see what we’re capable of now that he's less cowardly and I'm more independent and self-confident." And you are, right?
Then you tell her what you told us: "Don't get me wrong, he will have to move mountains to prove himself."
Also consider that parents and friends are a good barometer of happiness. If you move forward with this relationship, watch your mom. If she sees you happy, she'll be happy. If she sees you agitated or fearful, she will be, too. So pay attention. If she begins to relax, you'll know you’re in good shape, and if not, well, consider why. Meanwhile, tell the ex that if he wants to win mom's love, he has to keep showing up. That's all it takes --showing up over time with a smile on his face.
Readers? Is her mom right to put such pressure on her not to date this guy? Should the letter writer be giving her ex a second chance? Ever left the country after a break-up? Discuss.
– Meredith
I want her back
I went to a lovely wedding in Philadelphia over the weekend. The most amusing part about it was that the DJ kept playing Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam's "Head to Toe" over and over and no one knew why.
Guess the song of the day.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I've been with my girlfriend for about seven years. We've talked about marriage and everything. We started dating in high school and spent so much time together that we kind of lost touch with friends. At the time, that seemed OK. We went to the same college, which is when I realized I wanted to connect with my friends again. This is where I think things started to go wrong.
I was spending more time with friends and less time with her, which started fights and temporary break-ups. I made mistakes but rationalized them because we were young. After college we moved in together, which started off great. But we fell into this routine, and we started hanging out with our friends more again and spending less time with each other. A year ago, we both questioned if we were still in love. A few months back, we agreed to move into separate apartments with friends. She moved in with a coworker, and I moved in with strangers from Craigslist, which couldn't have worked out better because my new roommates are great people. She said this move would put perspective on our relationship, make us appreciate our time together more, and not take each other for granted anymore. I agreed.
After the move, things got progressively worse. Not with me, but with her. She stopped calling me and paying any attention to our relationship. She told me she hasn't been happy for a while, mostly because of my actions and her distrust in me (which I understand). She wanted to take a break/break-up. I agree, I was unhappy at times, I questioned if I was truly in love with her. I haven't been the best person.
The time spent away from her since the move has given me perspective on my life and what I truly want. I no longer question if I'm in love with her. I've fallen head over heels for her … again! But she doesn't feel the same. She feels stressed, guilty, and sad for doing this to me. I don't want to pressure her into getting back with me because she feels guilty -- that's not right. She says she still loves me a lot, she says she can still see her self marrying me in the future, but she's not certain. I've been pouring my heart out to her, hoping something will click. And I feel like its just making things worse.
I've been finding ways to be happy, but those feelings are only temporary. I think about her constantly. I still have so much to say to her, I still have so much left in me to give to her. What should I do? She says she needs time, which I agree with. However, she thinks it's not a good idea to even talk. She is completely cutting me out of her life because she's confused. How does a person fall back in love with someone when they’re not around?
I know I still have a lot of growing up to do, but I'm ready to share the rest of my life with her. Should I keep fighting for her or give her all the space she needs? Maybe she just isn't in love at all anymore but can't admit it? I don't want to be the person saying that she's the one that "got away." Should I go for broke?
– Falling to pieces, Brookline
A: What does "going for broke" entail, FTP? It sounds destructive to me. She knows how you feel. You've spelled it out. It's time to stay away.
I know you're falling to pieces, but I'm not convinced that your discomfort means that you're supposed to get back together with this woman. You say that you've fallen head over heels "again!" -- but why? How? What changed besides her bailing on you?
My advice is to take a deep breath, hang out with those new roomies, and wallow when you're feeling sad. Accept that you're supposed to be miserable for a bit. I'm also advising you to admit that there's more to this wave of emotion than regret and desire. There's also confusion. Fear of being single. Fear of loss. Wanting what you can't have. Nostalgia. Sadness about the end of childhood. It's more than just a need to have her by your side.
Please take this time-out and use it wisely. You don't want to return to the relationship you had, which made it impossible for you to balance a life outside of her. Create the life you want -- with friends, hobbies, etc., and then see if she even fits into that equation.
I know it's difficult, but try to tame these feelings of urgency. It's best to make big life decisions about break-ups and love when you're not falling to pieces.
Readers? Does he actually want her back? Has she moved on? What can he do? Should he do anything? Discuss.
– Meredith
Am I going to drop the other shoe?
Thanks for your great comments yesterday. I'm sure the letter writer appreciated them.
Q: My boyfriend and I have been together for almost two years and have been living together for the last eight months. We have what seems to be the perfect relationship. We get along incredibly well, we have fun together, he listens to me, etc. I don't doubt our love for each other. But lately, I'm starting to think that maybe there are some cracks in our seemingly perfect relationship. I'm the kind of person who's always "waiting for the other shoe to drop" or expecting the worst. So maybe that's my problem. The subject of our future comes up frequently, and before the day comes when he's on one knee asking me to spend my life with him, I need to know that this relationship is truly satisfying and fulfilling for us (OK, for me). He says he's perfectly happy with our relationship.
My concern is that he is not as affectionate as I need. He's not a very sexual person and rarely initiates intimacy. He doesn't like to hold hands or cuddle, although he will if I ask him. But I don't want to ask him. I just want to know that I'm desired, that he finds me attractive. I've brought it up to him a couple of times, and he tells me that of course he is attracted to me and loves being intimate with me, but he just isn't an openly emotional person and doesn't know how to show it. He tells me that he appreciates all the work I do for him, cooking and cleaning and managing our home. But I feel that our relationship lacks that deep passion that I've experienced before, the kind of passion that makes you weak in the knees and gives you butterflies when you kiss. We don't have that. I often find myself wondering if I could be happy with our relationship as it is for the rest of my life. He's my best friend and I adore him. I want to share my life with him and have a family. But I can't help but wonder if I will ever be completely satisfied. I know that one of the biggest reasons couples divorce is because of sex or issues with sex. I don't want that to be us. I know there is no perfect relationship or perfect partner. He completes me in every other way and is so good to me. Is it enough though? Should I just shut up and be grateful that I have such a great guy?
– Will I Always Want More?, Wareham
A: Well, I don't know if you're paraphrasing or quoting him directly, WIAWM, but your boyfriend has told you that he doesn't know how to show his feelings. So tell him. "I want you to initiate sex twice a week." "I want you to tell me when I look awesome." Spell it out. Maybe even write a list. He's the kind of guy who needs specifics.
As far as I know, there are two types of stomach butterflies. (Actually, there are three, but the third relates to nausea and is not relevant to Love Letters.) The first type is about excitement and lust, and it goes away after a relationship gets real. The second type is the occasional butterfly you get when you realize you're with someone you love who loves you back. If you're looking for Butterfly 1, forget about it. That's a new relationship thing and you've had that experience. But if you're really lacking Butterfly 2 -- those moments of feeling totally in sync with your boyfriend -- then yes, you should worry -- not because of the sex, but because something bigger is missing.
But I'd start with the specific instructions. Because he'll follow directions. And if you still feel antsy after he does, you'll know that you're looking for a reason to drop the shoe. And that's OK. Better now than later.
Readers? Is the intimacy thing that big of a deal? Is this about him or the letter writer dropping shoes? Should she let go of an otherwise good thing? Discuss.
– Meredith
Am I the rebound?
Q: Dear Meredith,
This letter could go on for pages. I'll spare you my psychoanalyzing. That's what your reader comments are there for.
My girlfriend is 35 -- ten years older than me. We met at a party about six months ago and began seeing each other casually. We moved slowly at first, but things organically developed into a serious relationship. We work full-time, enjoy each other's company, have overlapping interests, and spend about 75 percent of our time together. Our relationship has progressed quite quickly compared to my longest relationship of four years and hers of ten.
All would be hunky-dory if it weren't for the fact that her ten-year relationship ended about two weeks after we met. They had intertwined finances, property, professional, and social lives. Their relationship ended amicably -- all I know about why is that they had just fallen out of love. Understandably, she was and is still saddened by her loss, which is why I was initially hesitant to start anything more than casual hooking up with her. However, she initially said that things were tough but getting easier, that she was out of love for a few years and so the fact that her relationship was over wasn't going to affect what we had.
Recently (for the past two months) she's been more distant, sad, crying at times, and reflective about her past relationship. When we do things or go places that she did with the ex (essentially everything because they'd been together since she was a student in Boston), she is noticeably sad and sometimes withdrawn. To complicate things, most of their mutual friends started as her ex's, and still are. She tells me she feels like she had lost herself in that relationship and doesn't have anyone besides me and a couple out-of-state friends to rely upon.
It's gotten to the point where she's said she isn't sure about continuing dating, that she's still devastated by the break-up and loss (of her extended family, their home, their life), and that she needs to find herself, but wants to do so with me. She tells me she's a mess, and doesn't know why I'm with her. I've definitely shown and told her in many ways that I love her dearly.
We've decided to stay together and try to weather this storm together. I'm more emotionally invested in this relationship than I've ever been, and don't want to cut things short where I see such potential. On the other hand, I don't want to continue giving all of myself if she is going to realize (in 2 weeks/months/years) that she needs to be single in order to fully recover from this break-up.
Will she get over her loss? Do we need to break things off in order for her to heal? Are there actions I can take to remedy this situation while we stay together? Any advice you have is appreciated.
– Am I a Rebound Boyfriend?, Boston
A: You're not a rebound boyfriend, AIARB. Your girlfriend adores you. In fact, it sounds like you pulled her out of a long-dead relationship that she was afraid to leave.
But your timing is off. Her head is cloudy. She didn't have time to process the break-up. And she misses her ex -- as a best friend. She's still mourning the loss of him. As you said, it's all understandable.
My advice isn't to end things. It's to ride it out and to tell her to make the most of the 25 percent of her life that doesn't involve you. (And perhaps she could increase that 25 percent to 30.) She needs to talk about what she learned and lost. She needs friends. She needs new hobbies. She needs new memories. She needs some alone time so that she can be confident that when she's with you, it's by choice, not by necessity.
Yes, it would be great if she could be single for a while and then date you. But that's not possible. She has to mourn while dating someone new, and you have to be sensitive as she figures it out. If you guys stay together for a long time, she'll return the favor at some point.
She says she wants to do this with you. All you can do it take her word for it and see if it gets better. And as for guarantees that she won't leave in two years, well, no relationship has that. Not really.
Readers? Is this doomed? Is she mourning the ex as a friend or as more than a friend? Does she have to be single first to make this work? Is age relevant? Discuss.
– Meredith
We have class differences
Blane? That's not a name. It's a major appliance.
I'm sure you can guess the song of the day.
Q: Hi Meredith,
You know how, if life was a John Hughes movie, everybody wants to be Samantha Baker leaning over her birthday cake to kiss Jake Ryan? Well, somehow I'm a female version of Blane in Pretty in Pink.
Let me back up. For a little more than a year, I have been dating "Andie." Although he doesn’t work at a record store or hang out with Duckie, he grew up several socioeconomic classes below the way I grew up. The opportunities that I took for granted -- regular family vacations; a stay-at-home mom available for every soccer game, carpool or band concert; full tuition at a private college -- were things he could only dream of. He comes from a very kind, loving family, but they just didn't have the resources my family had.
We have hit a point in our relationship in which he doesn’t want to proceed unless he knows its "going somewhere," by which he means that while he doesn't need to get married tomorrow, but he wants to know that I'll marry him someday. (That we're at this point already seems very early to me, but regardless, he brought it up.)
I don't care at all about his family's wealth, or lack thereof. But, what is an issue for me is the way our different backgrounds manifest themselves in our dreams for our hypothetical children. Both of us want to provide our children with, at the bare minimum, the opportunities we had. But Andie could be comfortably middle-class and still provide better for his children than his parents did, whereas that would be a step down for me. He works at a non-profit and has no interest in attaining the kind of corporate, high-profile, high-pressure job that funded the lifestyle I grew up in.
Let me assure you, I am not a gold digger or a trophy wife-in-training. I have every expectation that my own salary will contribute hugely to my family's resources, and I'm in the middle of applications to graduate school to ensure this happens. But I do want the option to stay at home for a few years while my babies are babies, and this isn't a possibility if I'm the primary breadwinner.
The flip side is that he loves me, very much. He is kind and smart and curious and, occasionally, very funny. I know how this story would end in the movies ("…happily ever after."), but in real life, how do I choose between a great guy who loves me and the life I've spent 25 years envisioning for myself?
– Blane McDonnagh, New York, New York
A: This is tough for me because I never understood why Andie stayed with Blane. I always thought she should have dropped him for Duckie. I mean, the guy rode his bike past her house, bonded with her down-and-out father, and wooed her by lip-synching "Try a Little Tenderness." Meanwhile, Blane makes Andie go to that awful party with Steff and then ditches her on prom. How do you forgive that?
Now I'm getting upset. Sorry.
BM, if you suspect that you'll resent having a partner who doesn't prioritize a certain standard of living, you're probably right. He's not going to change his values and you're not going to change yours. Unless you can say, "I want to be with him no matter what because I'm sold on this guy and we can compromise," you shouldn't force it.
And for the record, your priorities don't make you shallow or a gold digger. You're just self-aware about what you need to be happy.
But know this: not every guy who shares your vision of the future will be as kind as your Andie. You might find that some of those other guys are Steffs -- that they have great jobs but wear horrible white blazers and have bad attitudes. You just have to decide whether you're willing to risk losing the good with the bad.
In real life, by the way, there's no way Andie and Blane would have wound up together. They would have broken up when Blane went to college. I'm sure of it.
I'm glad you’re acknowledging your real-life priorities. Only you know how big of a deal this is to you. But know that if you stay with Andie, he's going to be Andie forever. Don't assume you can turn him into an Andie with a Steff salary. It just won't happen.
Readers? Any hope for this couple? Class issues aside, does she sound psyched enough about Andie to marry him? Oh -- and if you're extra bored today, this is a fantastic story about Jake Ryan written by my favorite Washington Post staffer. Very interesting. Now try a little tenderness.
– Meredith
Will I ever find a partner?
Q: Meredith and readers,
Are some people just not meant for relationships? Here is a glimpse into my past:
In high school and most of college I dated many guys, generally for two months, from all walks of life: older, younger, the athlete, the nerd, the "gangsta," the preppy, the lead singer of a band, guy in the military, the cable guy, the nice guy, and the jerk. If you are wondering, I was only intimate with a select few at an older age. The one true relationship that counted lasted 9 months. "Rob" and I met through mutual friends at the age of 21. It was love at first sight. Rob and I dated for 2 months before I began my senior year of college. For the next 7 months, Rob and I dated long distance as I went to school 5 hours away. Long story short, we fought often due to our different upbringings and backgrounds, lack of similar interests, and Rob's trust issues from his previous relationships. About a year after the breakup, Rob and I worked on becoming friends and still hang out once in a great while. And no, I do not see myself in a relationship with him ever again. After Rob, I have dated here and there but have focused more on taking care of myself, reconnecting with family, friends, hobbies, and focusing on my career. I have casually dated over the past few years. Typically, I wind up losing interest after a few weeks and end it. I don't feel a special "connection" to any of them and haven't since Rob.
Present: today I consider myself very successful, confident, and independent at the age of 25. I work for a world-wide company and travel. Recently I have sworn into the United States Reserves and leave for boot camp very soon.
Future: My long-term goals include a career switch, continuing with the Reserves, and living in Massachusetts or the New England area. I feel very fortunate and proud to have accomplished all of this but I feel there is a piece missing. Perhaps the missing piece is a partner to share and enjoy life with.
I am afraid that my life will never calm down enough to share it with someone else. Everyone seems to be clingy nowadays. I am very independent and like to do my own thing but not necessarily 24/7 by any means. Maybe that could change if I met the right person. Friends have said that I need someone who will challenge me, be my equal, and have the same or very similar interests. Should I just live and enjoy my 20s even though I feel something is missing? Am I too independent? Should I be concerned that I hardly ever fall or "settle" for someone? It seems like everyone else I know can be happy or settle with someone. I just feel lost in this whole matter or that I am doing something wrong.
– Will I Ever Settle Down?, Massachusetts
A: You've dated a bunch of people, WIESD. You're 25. You're about to leave for boot camp. You're single and wondering why.
My thought is -- thank goodness you haven't met someone awesome. This isn't the right time. Maybe soon, but not now.
Now, everyone is going to tell you that you're whining about nothing, but before they do, let me remind them that there are some significant feelings going on here. Just because a person isn't ready to be serious with someone doesn't mean they can't get lonely. Loneliness can be overwhelming. It can make a person believe that they'll never be understood, that they'll never get out of their solitary hole, and that the rest of the world is experiencing something they'll never get their hands on.
Don't let the loneliness scare you. It doesn't mean that you'll never meet anyone. It doesn't mean that you're not capable. And being in the Reserves -- well, you'll be meeting people who share your motivation and drive. That sounds pretty promising to me.
The present doesn't stand for anything but the present. You're not doing anything wrong. It just takes time.
Readers? How do you balance wanting a partner with a life that makes it impossible to have one? How do you cope with being young but lonely? Advise.
– Meredith
I found greener grass
I hope you're all working. I mean, not that I want you to be miserable at work on a holiday ... I just want this letter to get some attention.
(And despite the headline on this letter, it's not about drugs.)
Q: I am 26 and have been living with my long-term boyfriend (on and off) for almost a year now. We have been "on" again for about 2 ½ years and we are finally at a point where our relationship has become mature and the best it has ever been. Meeting during our college years (he went to school with a close friend), we (more so I) definitely went through our share of immature times over the years and have broken up more than once.
But these past years we have really grown as a couple and have frequently discussed marriage and our future, although the thought of actually taking the plunge scares me half to death.
Since I was 15, I have pretty much always been in long-term relationships and have been lucky enough to be with some amazing guys. But for some reason (which I have come to despise) the grass has always been greener for me. I had gone back to school a few years ago and soon after became friends with one of my classmates who was also living with his long-term girlfriend. For a while we were just friends and really only talked when we saw each other in class or were working on school related projects. However, beginning early this May (and I don't even know how it happened) I found myself talking to him more and more and it got to the point where we were talking every day, all day. I knew it was the wrong thing to do, yet I couldn't help it and kept at it. We really got to know each other on a personal level and eventually he shared with me that he had felt a "connection" from the moment we met. Mind you, this is almost two years later and he was still with his girlfriend.
He was finishing up school early this summer with plans to move back to his hometown. I had known this all along and the original plan was that both he and his girlfriend would move there together, but in June he told me that he broke things off with her. She ended up moving out of Boston and he was now living by himself. We began hanging out here and there and he told me he was going to stay around Boston to see where things were going to go with us. I hadn't really given him any indication that I was planning on leaving my boyfriend, but I was quite flattered that he was going to stay for me, as I knew his entire life was back at home.
Finally late in the summer, with no real moves being made on my end and without warning, he told me that he was lonely here and was leaving and going back to New York. Not in a month, not in a week, but basically right at that moment. I went to his place to say our "goodbyes" (as he put it) and to my surprise, found myself filled with uncontrollable emotion. I cried and cried and told him not to go, but ultimately his mind was made up and we parted ways.
Shortly after, he ended up writing me a letter. It was the most touching and heartfelt thing I had ever received from anyone. In it, he said that he had to leave and be with those closest to him during this transitional time in his life and that he truly believed we would meet again and hopefully our lives would permit us to continue where we left off that night. We do not speak anymore.
Ever since that day, everything has changed for me. I didn't want to and wish it hadn't happened, but I honestly think I fell in love with him, though I fought very hard not to let him know or admit it to myself until it was too late. Obviously this has made me seriously question my current relationship. Why would this happen if I was 100% committed to my boyfriend?
Overcome with what occurred, I recently told my boyfriend I needed a break and he has given it to me. Although he had already moved away, I told my new "friend" that I had done this and made it clear that I wanted to explore what happened between us, but without coming out and directly saying it, he has made it apparent that isn’t happening.
I know I am a good person and I definitely do NOT condone any type of cheating whether it is physical or emotional --never have and never will -- but this unexpectedly happened to me and though people may say I am responsible for my actions, I feel as if it was somewhat out of my control.
I am now left to wonder if my feelings for this kid were real. Or is it me and my grass-is-always-greener problem? If that's true, should I work things out with my boyfriend and forget about this short-lived "affair"?
– Lost in Greener Pastures
A: I don't think you should run back to the boyfriend. You haven't said anything about missing him or feeling as though you made a gigantic mistake. At your age it's possible that shiny new grass is actually greener.
If you had your choice, you wouldn't be back with your boyfriend. You'd be rolling around in greener grass. Don't go back to the old grass simply because the new grass has decided to go off on its own.
I think that if you follow your heart and stay single if the new grass isn't an option, you'll probably be more likely to know what to do with pretty green grass the next time you see it. It's amazing how much smarter we get when we allow ourselves to be lonely.
Readers? What should she do? Is the greener grass really gone? Anything I'm missing about the boyfriend? Discuss.
– Meredith
I want to move
Q: I am 22 and have been dating my 24-year-old boyfriend for over three years. His mom died earlier this year, and obviously, that has taken a huge toll on him. He lived with his mom while going to college, so losing her has changed every aspect of his life. He now owns a home and lives alone. I'm a more-than-full-time student and live with my parents.
We are very much in love and I see myself marrying him. I know I'm still young, but I have a good idea of what I want my future to look like. I know he feels the same way, but we are waiting at least a few years until we are both done with school to do anything permanent.
Here's the catch: I'm almost done with my master's degree and ready for a job. I know that in the future I want to live in Massachusetts and raise my family here (I'm from the area), but right now I am dying to get out, just for a few years. I would love to move to California, North Carolina, or Washington D.C. -- anywhere new and exciting, just to get a flavor of what's out there.
But my boyfriend is totally not feeling the moving thing right now. He owns his house now and knows it would be complicated to sell it. He is still in a really rough period after losing his mom. I know that I will have a really hard time moving without him and being alone in a new place, but I also know that if I don't do this when I'm young, it will be harder to do it later.
What do I do? Should I keep prodding him to apply to colleges in a new place so that we can move together, even though I know he isn't really into the idea? I really want to go somewhere, but I'm afraid that I'd hate being alone and that I wouldn't be able to handle it. How do I deal with this? We have a pretty perfect relationship and the last thing I want to do is ruin it (because I see the rest of my life with him), but I need to move away and do something totally new and different. I just don't know how to do this without wrecking my perfect and loving relationship and without making myself miserable.
– Anxious But In Love, Western Mass
A: You're telling us that you're basically as good as married, ABIL. That means you're planning as a twosome. And right now, half of your twosome needs to stay put in Massachusetts for some very practical reasons. That's your answer.
People in serious, adult relationships have to sacrifice and compromise all of the time. They don't get to have the pet they've always wanted because their partner is allergic. They change their sleep schedule to make it easier for their spouse to get ready for work in the morning. They put off plans to go exploring because the love of their life has just lost of a parent.
Staying in Massachusetts doesn't mean you'll never get to see glorious Raleigh or the traffic in Los Angeles. Maybe in a year or two he'll consider renting his house to go traveling with you (assuming he's on the same page about where you stand). Again, compromise.
If you're as confident as you say you are about your boyfriend being your husband-to-be, you have to stick around. He's in no shape to move and could probably use his wife-to-be by his side. But if you're not quite sold on being someone's life partner just yet, go explore as someone who's unattached. Just don’t try to have it both ways. It won't work.
Readers? Am I right? Should she stay? Or should she take this time to travel while he's sorting out his life here? Is she ready for spouse-like behavior? Does she have to be to maintain the relationship? Discuss.
– Meredith
I can't trust her
Q: I have been with my girlfriend for almost two years and she is wonderful, funny, makes me happy, and I love her very much. We had a blip last winter where she was toying with the idea of being with someone else when things were bad between the two of us (just fighting a lot, not seeing eye-to-eye, and then not communicating about our needs and problems). I found out that she had gone on a date or two with this guy, they had kissed, and that was it. She suggested couples therapy, which we did a few times. She really came around. I would say it helped our relationship.
However, I find myself STILL not fully trusting her. I have resisted the strong temptation to snoop through her e-mail/Facebook when she steps out and leaves her computer on. But the other day I gave in. I checked her Facebook messages when her account was left open and she was in the shower. I saw a message she had written to her ex-boyfriend only a few weeks back when things were amazing and wonderful (or so I thought). She had written that they hadn't talked in a while and she really wanted to see him. He had written back that he would be in town around the holidays with his new girlfriend, that he hoped she was well, and that maybe they could catch up soon. She wrote back "no big deal."
Do I bring this up with her -- and if so, how? Do I actually mention I was snooping? If so, how can I be trusted?
She has several male friends and is always on her phone texting and sending messages through Facebook. I just don't know if I am becoming paranoid and need to chill and trust her, or if I am right to still feel uncomfortable so many months later.
– Paranoid, Boston
A: You're not being paranoid, Paranoid. I mean, you are, but the Facebook message confirmed your fears. I'm not saying that there's anything going on with your girlfriend and her ex, but her desire to see him was news to you. It made you feel bad. That's not good.
You can confront your girlfriend about what you saw, but I don't think she can answer your big questions. Only you know why you don't feel safe in the relationship. Only you know whether you want to be with a woman who seeks attention from other men, including friends and exes. You might prefer a fresh start -- or a girlfriend who's less social and more of an open book. I don't know.
What I do know is that counseling helped. You said you went a few times. Perhaps you weren't finished.
My advice is to go back, whether it's with her or alone. You're not done talking. The more you come clean about these fears and what you need to feel secure in a relationship (with anyone, not just her), the easier it will be to decide if your girlfriend is the right partner.
Stopping therapy too soon is like not finishing a prescription of antibiotics. You just wind up sick again.
Readers? Is there hope here? How can he get over the past? Is the note to the ex cause for concern or was it a simple catch-up? Am I right about him having his own answers? Discuss. (And yes, that was really Rico in the chat yesterday.)
– Meredith
I loved her and lost her
No one is helping me with Love Letters songs of the day on Twitter. It's making me sad. Help. And chat at 1.
And while you're validating me, validate me some more.
I get so needy when it rains.
So does this letter writer.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I am not sure if this qualifies as "love" advice, but I would like your advice all the same. A few years ago I met a remarkable girl. She is stunningly beautiful, but that doesn't even begin to explain how unbelievable she is. When we first met, we hit it off immediately, and I would have liked nothing more to date her if it wasn't for the fact that she had a boyfriend. Knowing that she wasn't going to break up with her boyfriend, I accepted her as a friend and felt very lucky to have her in my life. We laughed all the time, engaged in many intellectual conversations, and exchanged our secrets. We were inseparable.
Earlier this year, she broke up with her boyfriend and I made my move. Unfortunately, she told me that the reason she broke up with her boyfriend was because she liked another man. I was heartbroken. I did not know what to do. Our friendship started to deteriorate from there. We both began to suffer personal problems with our families. My father was diagnosed with an illness, and her mother had problems, too. We began fighting constantly. I had a hard time accepting her new boyfriend and had suspicions about him, even though I recognize that those suspicions rose out of jealousy.
After much arguing we did not talk for a few months, then about a week ago I decided it was time to try to rebuild that bridge. I tried to apologize, but she just viewed it as more of the same drama we had been experiencing in the past. I tried to explain that I wanted to be friends again, but she just said "we were once great friends, but not anymore. Don't contact me again."
It has always been hard for me to maintain friendships throughout my life. I have never had a friendship like hers. I know the same is true for her, yet it is impossible for me to make her see that the past could have just been a rocky patch in our friendship and nothing more.
How do I earn back her trust and friendship? Will time heal?
– Without a Friend in Boston
A: It wasn't a rocky patch in your friendship, WAFIB. You imploded because you were (and are) in love with her. I'm assuming she's aware of your strong feelings, which is why she set such extreme boundaries.
I know you have trouble maintaining friendships, but she isn't a friend. She never was, at least not in your head. She was the object of your affection. An unrequited object. That's not the platonic pal you need.
My advice is to write her a note (I love notes, don't I?) explaining that you love her and that your strong feelings made you a disingenuous friend. Tell her that if you ever get over it you'll reach out -- but not until you're sure that you can handle being a buddy.
Then work on finding some real friends, people you don't want to kiss. It's not easy but it’s possible. Who are your acquaintances? Is there anyone you ignored while you were focusing on this woman? Is there anyone in your life worth promoting? Any family members who can help?
You can also try dating, maybe even online. See how it feels to evaluate someone as a potential partner from the start. You shouldn't have to wait around forever for someone to reciprocate.
I'm sorry for the loss, though. Let it be a lesson. At this age (whatever that age is, in your case), if the chemistry isn't there, you’re supposed to move on.
Readers? Any empathy for this letter writer? How does he let go of a friend who happens to be the woman he loves? Is he right to believe he's capable of having any sort of relationship with her? Help.
– Meredith
He's my boss
Q: Hi Meredith,
I can't believe I am actually writing this all out but here goes. I am turning 30 in a few days. I know it shouldn't be such a big deal but it is to me. I have a great job, I am in school, and I own my own home.
I have been dating this guy for the past four years. It hasn't been a normal relationship. He is my boss -- my immediate boss. No one knows of our relationship, and to be honest, coworkers often try to set us up to sit next to each other at events. We don't give any indication of our relationship to the point that several of the guys at the office flirt shamelessly with me and they other think that my boss is gay for not making a move.
I know we can't have a relatively normal relationship unless one of us gives up our positions. We both worked really hard to get where we are and won't want the other to jeopardize that. What is an even bigger problem is that he doesn't seem to want to really commit. He is supportive of my career, being in school -- he even helped me in my house search. He is always there for me for the big things but never for the little things. His birthday is two days after mine and he is turning the big 4-0! I told him a few days ago that I had a surprise for him and would pick him up the evening of his birthday. His response was "Can I get back to you? When do you need to know if I can make it?" His response totally floored me. I mean we have been together for 4 years. It's a big birthday!
Should I understand that he doesn't expect to celebrate big events with me? Is it OK that he is there for the big things but never sweats the small stuff? I mean, am I complaining about nothing? I'm not in a rush to get married or anything. I just want to know if he is committed to us. He says he wouldn’t be around if he wasn't committed.
– Sweating the small stuff, Boston
A: "Can I get back to you?" doesn't fly. His response should have been something like, "I'm turning 40! What should we do?"
It sounds like he's committed to the present, STSS. He supports you with anything that maintains the status quo, which is no longer good enough. I know he's your boss, but you've been together for four years. Usually companies have some sort of paperwork that allows you to disclose a relationship without losing your jobs.
My guess is that you're both hiding behind the work thing. He's using it to keep a safe distance, and you're using it to excuse his behavior. How long can it go on like this? Another two years? Three?
It's not enough to hear that he's committed. It's time to find out when you can take a step forward and become a full-time couple. You need a real strategy, and while that may require a trip to human resources, isn't it worth it? After four years?
And for the record, turning 30 is a big deal. It's the perfect age to get feisty about what you really want.
Readers? What should she be asking him? Is the work issue a fair excuse? Is she overreacting to the 40th birthday incident? Am I wrong about taking the step to disclose this at work? Discuss.
– Meredith
He won and lost some money
We need a money category.
Q: OK, so I'm at the very beginning of a relationship with a wonderful, caring, thoughtful, even-tempered guy. There's a bit of an age difference (he's 9 years younger) and a few other minor social differences, but variety is the spice of life, right? We click wonderfully. Even though it's early (and when I say early, I mean there has been no exchange of "I love you"s yet), he has been very forthright in sharing difficult information. So what's the problem?
When he was in his 20s he hit the lottery for a significant amount of money (in the neighborhood of $2 million). Being young, dumb, and single, he managed to squander it away like a wayward rap star over the course of five or six years, taking what should have been 20 years worth of payouts in advance and "selling them off" for the cash. The one "real" investment he made into a business venture collapsed.
While all this shows a lack of judgment mixed with a little bit of horrible luck, he's managed to right the ship, learn from his mistakes, and move on with life over the past eight to 10 years. Except -- all of those "advance payments" he took? There was no tax withheld on those. So he currently owes the IRS an amount akin to the value of a modest home in a Boston suburb.
My question to you (and your readers): Since the relationship itself is currently 100% enjoyable and wonderful, and he displays what I seek in a mate, should I just stick with the status quo and enjoy what we have and see how it plays out? Or would you turn tail and run away from an otherwise fruitful relationship with this giant financial guillotine hanging over your head?
– What Am I Getting Myself Into?, Beverly
A: Wow, WAIGMI. I mean, there's no right or wrong here. This is about what's in your gut.
Can you commit to a guy who will probably be making hefty monthly payments to the IRS for the next few decades? Would it be any different if he had to make the same monthly payments for child support? Or to help a sick relative?
My guess is that this has less to do with the guillotine and more to do with what the stigma and the what-ifs. Are you concerned that he doesn't have a good plan for paying the IRS? Do you fear that he'll make financially irresponsible decisions in the future? If you can say "no" to those questions, I wouldn't worry about the stigma of the financial loss. But if you're worried that he'll make poor choices again or behave impulsively because he's almost a decade younger and terrible with money, well, talk to him. And then be honest with yourself.
"Since the relationship itself is currently100% enjoyable and wonderful, and he displays what I seek in a mate …" I mean, that sounds pretty great. If you feel secure that his past is in the past (despite the leftover bills), I would just focus on the present and consider what he owes to be his "baggage" -- just like any other life experience.
He is who he is because of what he has been through. If he had invested that $2 million like a pro, maybe he wouldn't be so enjoyable and wonderful.
Readers? Would you date someone who owed hundreds of thousands to the IRS? Is the age difference an issue? What's going on here? Discuss.
– Meredith
How do I get her back?
Details on a Love Letters event coming soon.
And this, well, I'm flattered. Can you imagine? I have to admit, the idea of discussing grilled cheese with George Stephanopoulos is sort of intriguing.
Today's letter brings us back to college, but it's an ageless problem. Wanting someone back.
Q: Where to start. I am a college student and I have been dating this girl I love for almost three years now. We were practically married; spent a majority of the day with each other, slept in each other's rooms every night, and things were going pretty well.
But last weekend she told me that she was flying to visit her father down south. When she returned on Monday she seemed very distant, cold, and like a completely different person. The next day we grabbed lunch together, and here's the real kicker -- she tells me that she actually didn't visit her father. She spent the weekend at this guy's house, someone she met at her grandfather's funeral a month ago. She cheated on me. I'm so in love with her that I forgave her and told her I wanted to make us work. She is now in a limbo and tells me she has no idea if she wants to be with me or be with this guy. We still see each other almost everyday for a meal and we act as if everything is normal. We hug, say we love each other, and when I ask her how she feels about us she still tells me that she has no idea what to do. And she continues to wear the necklace I gave her, but also the dog tags her new friend gave her last weekend.
And I blame myself for her cheating on me completely. My mother passed away suddenly two years ago and I took a lot of my anger out on her. Nothing physical -- but I would say some very demeaning, hurtful things. I never really fully appreciated her in our relationship and now I fully regret it. Now that she is gone I know what I had and I want to make it better. So what should I do? Should I give her time and wait for her? Do I move on and try to forget? And what do I say and do to try to get her back? Thanks a lot for the help!
– I Want Her Back, Pembroke
A: She's walking around wearing trinkets from two guys? Wow. She's confused -- and maybe a bit insensitive, yes?
I'm not sure that these ambiguous meals and hugs are helping either of you. My advice is to make your case one more time, possibly in writing so that she can read it more than once, and then give her (and yourself) some space. Just make sure that you're honest in your note. Don't promise her the world. Admit that you're confused but that you want to at least try to do this relationship right before calling it quits.
Know that no matter what she decides, you'll be just fine. You learned a major lesson about how to process tragedy, and now she's the one testing your limits. Yes, you might have contributed to the problem, but you have to be good to yourself. You can apologize, you can even grovel for a few hours, but you don't have to punish yourself on a daily basis by looking at some other guy's dog tags while you're trying to eat a sandwich.
Readers? Does he deserve to be put through these meals and hugs because he misbehaved? How can he undo what happened? Does he really want to be with her or is this about fear of more loss? Should he be promising her anything before he takes some space? Discuss.
– Meredith
His family offended me
Q: Dear Meredith,
My boyfriend of four years and I recently traveled to the Midwest to visit his older brother and sister. They are twins, moved far away years ago, and my boyfriend hadn't seen them in forever.
So we get there and within 20 minutes, I hear his older brother use the "N-word" in a joking manner. My boyfriend is white and I am African-American. I honestly didn't know what to do. I've dealt with the word being used in the past and always found it easiest to confront the person and basically lay down the law by saying, "Just strike it from your vocabulary."
I know it's best to have an open dialogue about it but I froze. I felt like if I said something then we would have been starting the trip off on the wrong foot, and my boyfriend was so happy about seeing his siblings after so long. When his brother said it I saw my boyfriend give him a look of death but nothing was said. I pretended it never happened for the rest of the trip, but I'm really bothered that I didn't say something.
Did I cop out on this one? Should my boyfriend have said something? I feel like I not only let myself down, but I did his brother a great disservice in not letting him know that what he said was wrong, even in a joking manner.
– Why Didn't I Say Something, Boston
A: You didn't say anything because you were in shock. It's almost impossible to hear a word like that, process it, ponder the intent of said word, consider the fact that you're in your boyfriend's brother's home, and react appropriately -- all at the same time. I'm sure your boyfriend was having the same experience. Your look of shock and his look of death had the same meaning. Your boyfriend is probably second-guessing his reaction, too.
There's no statute of limitations on this, which means you're still allowed to talk to your boyfriend about what happened. The discussion will give him the chance to admit how uncomfortable he was when the word was said. It'll also allow you to talk about how you want to handle this as a team. For all you know, he's been stewing about this since it happened. For all you know, he already spoke to his siblings about this in private. Find out.
The most important thing is that you and the boyfriend acknowledge what happened so that there's honesty, not repressed resentment. You said it best -- open dialogue. I have a feeling that you're already on the same page about this, but it will be nice to hear your boyfriend say so. And there's no statute of limitations with the siblings either, which means you can teach the lesson whenever you're ready.
Readers? Should her boyfriend have done more? How do you correct a significant other’s family member without alienating everyone involved? Anyone ever heard an in-law say something awful? How did you react? Discuss.
– Meredith
All he wants to do is text
Q:Hi Meredith,
I have a problem that may seem a bit trite to some people, especially those who didn't grow up in the text generation. I met a great guy through a mutual friend about a month ago. Actually, we met a couple of times before that, but he had a girlfriend. He waited a few months after the breakup before he told my friend that he'd like to see me again. My friend threw a party so that we could informally meet again. We instantly hit it off. He got my number and we started texting. We've seen each other twice since and it's been great, although neither time was initiated by him. Once my friend invited me to a party and he told me I should come when I asked. The other time I invited him over. We have fun together, have a lot in common, and seem to be attracted to each other.
He texts me ALL the time. I don't just mean every day – I mean conversations that pretty much continue throughout the entire day. I wake up to his texts in the morning that he's sent before I've woken up while he’s at work. And he texts me before he goes to bed. He has a cute nickname that he calls me. If I haven't responded to his texts within a couple hours, he always sends a follow-up message. And it's not only texting, he calls me on occasion just to chat. He's obviously thinking about me.
The thing I can’t figure out is why he doesn’t make more of an effort to spend actual time with me. I’m waiting for an official date. I know that "He’s Not That Into You" says that if a guy is really into you, then he’ll ask you out. He makes plans for the future, but nothing concrete. "We should do this, we should do that." I've made it clear that I would like to spend time with him, but we have to work around his schedule because he's insanely busy. He said he'd like to see me again, I told him the ball's in his court, but I'm not quite sure what he’s doing with that ball -- it's been three weeks.
Just for some more background, he is working and going to school, lives 30 minutes away, and has the opposite schedule of me. He's up before dawn and done with work in the afternoon – although he has school in the evenings a few times a week. I'm a 9 to 5 and like to go out in the evenings. He's in bed by 9. He also works most weekends during the day. He was in a one-year relationship that has been over for about six months now, and they had a very mutual breakup. We're both 24. He’ll be done with school in six months and then maybe he’ll have more time.
I know that his priority is work/school right now, so basically what I'm asking is if I should give this relationship some time and keep on texting or if I should accept that he's just not that into me.
– Waiting For Some Face Time, Boston
A: This isn't a "He's Just Not That Into You" moment. He's into you, I think. But he's also weird.
He's not uniquely weird, of course. I know a lot of people who are capable of emotional intimacy in texts and e-mails but not in person. I don't get it -- it's possible to establish some intimacy in writing, but it's certainly difficult to make out in an e-mail. Not to get into gender stuff, but for all the talk about guys only wanting one thing, I get plenty of letters about guys who text and e-mail but don't show up in person. So much for stereotypes. Again, no pajama parties if all you do is text.
You asked whether you should give it more time or move on. I'm going to add a third option -- ask him when you can see him again. Be specific about the question. I know I'm a broken record with the whole "just be honest" and "talk about it" thing, but in your case, it applies. Just tell him that his texts are speaking louder than his actions and it's confusing you. You get that he's busy, but that's all the more reason for him to plan some dates with you.
It also couldn't hurt to ask your mutual friend about this. Maybe this is a pattern. Or maybe you'll find out that he is just really busy. You've seen him twice in a month, which isn't that bad. It's the boyfriend-like texts and the lack of concrete plans that are throwing you off.
Readers? Can a chronic texter explain this to me? Why text all night and not get together in person? It's been three weeks. Should she bail now? Discuss.
– Meredith
He's a lawyer and proud of it
Q: I've been dating this guy who is a young, successful lawyer for a couple of weeks. I really like him but whenever we go out with my friends, he talks A LOT about the fact that he went to law school and is a lawyer. He doesn't even talk about specific law experiences. He just continuously reminds people that he is a lawyer. Most of the time, it doesn't even relate to the conversation, he just throws it out there.
Don't get me wrong, he should be proud because he worked really hard to get where is, but it just comes across as too much. Even my friends have noticed and have said how they really like him but "he talks about being a lawyer a lot." They weren't mean about it and just dismissed it as his way of trying to impress them, but he does it often, even among his own friends or new people he meets.
The fact of the matter is that I hang out with very down-to-earth people who aren't pretentious. So here is my issue: some friends and I are planning on going away and sharing a vacation house. I don't know everyone in the group that well and I am concerned that this problem will happen again, only it's a bigger deal because we'll all be stuck together for a few days. One friend even said "just make sure he doesn't constantly talk about being a lawyer."
I definitely don't want him to hide who he is and what he does, but I don't want him to gloat about it either. How do I tell him to cool it with the bragging without hurting his feelings or undermining his success?
– Cool It, Boston
A: You have to say something now, CI, while it's early. Something like, "Hey, I know you're proud of your profession – and I've been fantasizing about dating a lawyer ever since I fell for Corbin Bernsen on 'L.A. Law' -- but I notice that you bring it up a lot. I know you don't mean to brag, but sometimes the lawyer-talk is a bit off-putting." Be prepared with some specific examples so he knows what you're talking about.
The trick is to keep a soft tone so that he doesn't go on the defense, "Law & Order"-style. Make your gripe sounds like a concern, not an accusation. He's going to feel foolish, so you need to let him know that you're willing to forgive, and more importantly, to forget.
I empathize with him, of course. It's incredibly difficult to become a lawyer (try taking a practice LSAT), and these days, it's a challenge to keep a law job without getting laid off. I understand why he's proud. But lawyers who don't mention that they're lawyers are cooler than lawyers who do. You have to talk to him before you take him to that vacation house. Don't set him up to fail.
Readers? How do you tell a bragger to stop bragging without making them feel stupid? Does someone who brags about being a lawyer understand that it's also cool to be a musician -- or a social worker? Does his behavior mean he's too competitive? Any lawyers want to weigh in? Does the bragging mean they're doomed? Discuss.
– Meredith
I date an obsessed athlete
Q: Dear Meredith,
I have been in a serious relationship with my boyfriend for about a year. I'm the first (and only) girl he brought home to meet his family. We attend the same college and when everything is great, everything is GREAT. I can honestly see myself marrying this kid when we're both out of school.
Here's the catch: boyfriend is beyond obsessed with a sport. He plays for our school, which is Division 1, and he has a pretty solid chance of playing professionally. He has hopes to play here or overseas, and I completely support him. However, boyfriend isn't the star athlete who has the natural ability to play without trying. Boyfriend works extremely hard putting in extra time before and after practice, spends his weekends in, changes his diet, and molds his entire life around his athletic career. The amount of hard work and dedication he puts into EVERYTHING -- his sport in particular -- is one of his most attractive qualities.
He's my best friend and the center of my life, and when he's around he makes me so happy. But his schedule during the season -- and pessimistic attitude when practices/games don't go so well -- get in the way constantly. I've told him several times that he needs to separate himself from the sport when he's around me. He feels horrible, he knows he’s a negative Nancy, doesn’t want to lose me, makes an effort and change … for a while … and then the cycle continues.
When he talks about his life and his future, I'm always in it. But I just don't know what to do. I'm the kind of person who thinks the glass is not only half full, but that there's a warm chocolate chip cookie next to it. I can emotionally deal with the stress, limited time, mood changes, and all the nonsense that comes along with him playing some lame game. I just want him to be happy. I can't keep having the same conversation with him about his negativity it’s embarrassing at this point. I want to be supportive, I want to be with him, but how do I break the cycle?
– Second String, Boston
A: SSt, you can't break the cycle. His obsession with perfection is what drives him. Athletes get like this. So do musicians. And writers. And accountants in April. You say you love his passion. Well, obsession is a part of it.
What do you think Gisele Bundchen tells Tom Brady after a bad game? "Honey, separate yourself from the sport! Don't worry about the Jets! That game was a week ago!" No way. She probably gives him a tiny pep talk, flips her hair like a glorious mermaid, and takes her perfect long legs into another room so that he can obsess and be negative in private.
Of course, come spring, Gisele gets Vacation Tom, who I assume is far less obsessed and moody than Quarterback Tom. You have a similar deal.
I don't want to blame the victim here, but perhaps the real problem is this: "he's my best friend and the center of my life." That's great, but you need some balance. Do you know what Gisele was doing when Tom started his season a few weeks ago? She was in New York for Fashion Week, happily doing her own thing. I never thought I’d say this to anyone with a straight face (and it's giving me stomach pains to type it), but take a lesson from Gisele. If you keep busy with activities that feed your warm-chocolate-chip-cookie spirit, I promise that your athletic boyfriend's seasonal, obsessive behavior won't be so overwhelming.
Readers? Anyone date an athlete or a seasonal worker? Advice for this second-string girlfriend? Did you catch that she called his sport a "lame game"? What's that about? Discuss (and Gisele, feel free to chime in if you're reading). Discuss.
– Meredith
Am I a baggage magnet?
This is the second Confused we've had this week. We're all confused. Get creative.
Q: I'm 28 was recently told by my fiance (whom I dated for 4-plus years before getting engaged) that he didn't want to marry me. I had relocated to a god-awful place in WNY to be with this person prior to our engagement. When it was broken off abruptly, I hightailed it out of there and returned home to be with my family after about 10 years away.
Since moving home, I have reconnected with past flames and been on a few dates with people I just met, all ending in complete lack of interest on both sides. It seems, however, that the people who are in the same proverbial "boat" -- either in the midst of a divorce or recently out of a long-term relationship -- seem extremely interested in me. I am a bit weary about jumping into a relationship like this, which leads to my questions:
Do people with baggage seem to cling to others with baggage in order to cope with their situation? Is a relationship stemming from said baggage less real/meaningful?
– Confused, Boston
A: Yes, Confused, people with "baggage" might be more attracted to you after hearing that you've been through your own ordeal. That's not necessarily a bad thing. It just means that they're looking for an understanding peer.
But water seeking its own level is just a part of it. This is also about age. After 28 or so, everyone has history. Everyone is coping with something, whether it's a divorce, a bad break-up, or simply being single when their friends aren't. It may seem that everyone drawn to you has mega-baggage, but really, you're just re-entering the dating world four years older.
And yes, I believe that people who have survived heartbreak (and Western New York) are capable of having meaningful relationships, even with each other. It's not about misery loving company. It's about empathy loving empathy.
Readers? Does baggage seek out baggage? Is she seeing a legitimate pattern here? Does she seem ready to date? Discuss.
– Meredith
He wants to revisit his old habit
Despite this letter, "I Want a New Drug" is not the Love Letters song of the day. It's something else.
Q: My boyfriend and I have been together for over 2 1/2 years, and we've been living together the past seven months. We are both 27. He's pretty amazing -- incredibly funny, sweet -- and has become a part of my family (who live nearby). We have talked about marriage.
We met through a mutual friend. He became interested in me, but I knew he was a pothead, which held me back. I've never been into drugs of any kind, and I’m actually crazy allergic to smoke. I drink socially but nothing too crazy. My stomach is sensitive to alcohol, so I go out occasionally and have fun, but my body is just not cooperative to anything more. Anyway, my friend passed along the message that I "don't date people who smoke pot," so he chose to quit his daily habit. I gave him a chance, we went out on a date, and it's been happily ever after, for the most part.
A few times over the past nine months or so, my boyfriend and I have gotten into a couple of rather heated debates over pot. He has started to resent my control over his life because he's not "allowed" to smoke pot. I totally get why he feels this way, and I don't want to control him. But the alternative of letting him smoke when he wants isn't so attractive either. Given my allergy, I can't be around him when he smokes, and he isn't one to do it solo. He works full time, is in school at night, and also plays in a hard-core softball league (3-4 times a week), so our time together is already limited. I don't want pot taking away more of our time together. I think pot would become the "other" girlfriend.
He had been a daily pot smoker and used it to relax after work. I think he was addicted to the relaxed feeling it gave him that he had trouble getting from other things. He has ADHD and takes medication that makes him edgy. I think he was self-medicating to relax/de-stress. He agrees with me. He knows he would have a hard time smoking only occasionally, but that's what he would like to do. He has an addictive personality (right now he's addicted to softball, which is OK with me).
He says he would never choose pot over me and it's not that big of a deal, that he'll get over it. But I know it is a big deal, because it keeps coming up every three to four months.
I feel like I am stuck between a rock and a hard place. I finally admitted that maybe I could agree to a compromise (even though I really don't want to) -- that pot is fine now at 27, but I won't be happy with it when we have a family in three to five years. His response was, "I feel like I am going to want to smoke every once in a while when I have kids, too." I can't keep fighting this fight for the rest of my life! I feel like this is a value/moral issue to me.
– Just Not Into Pot, Boston
A: JNIP, the big problem, to me, is your plan for the future. You want to live your life a certain way, but he has other ideas. Is there a compromise? Are you open to him smoking when the kids are away or if he's on a business trip (despite the fact that, ahem, it's still illegal)? That's the big question, whether you can find a middle ground.
My advice in the meantime is to put the ball in his court. He says he wouldn't choose pot over you. Really? Well, let's see what he does when he's making his own rules. My suspicion (and maybe I'm being naive) is that if you leave it up to him, he'll quickly realize that he's way too busy to start up his old habit. I think he'll also realize that he'd rather hang with you or play softball than curl up with acquaintances who happen to like the same drug.
The difference is that it will be his choice. Right now he resents you because he thinks you're making decisions for him. Let him make his own. Let him find out that at the end of the day, his choice is you, not the weed. He already made that choice. Let him make it again.
And if I'm wrong -- if he spirals into a snack-eating abyss and winds up ditching you for an entirely different lifestyle, then you'll know. But, really, I think this is about your boyfriend feeling like he's not governing his own body. Let him. See how it feels.
Readers? Thoughts on this guy's resentment? Can one actually become addicted to softball? Is this about control? Anyone had this problem? What should the letter writer do? Talk.
– Meredith
She calls the shots
Twitter people will notice that I've started posting a Love Letters song of the day. Mainly because I don't do anything interesting on Twitter, and I sort of always have a Love Letters-ish song in my head. Feel free to bother me on Twitter to recommend a song of the day. If you don't, it's going to be a lot of George Michael. And it will be your fault. Local musicians -- bring it on.
Q: Hi Meredith,
Here is a question that will probably get some ire from those looking for a loyal partner. I have been with my girlfriend for the past five years (since the end of college). I trust her in every way. We get along really well, yet I worry that my passive personality is the big reason we've made it so far.
She is an only child and she is used to getting her way most of the time. We are both very close to our families, and I see that her parents still coddle her in certain ways. And even though she feels that we have a 50/50 relationship, we don't (which I'm sure is related to her relationship with her parents). Part of this is my own doing -- at the beginning of the relationship I didn't stand up for what I wanted and let her get her way because I was too concerned with making her happy. This passiveness has led me to have very few friends. We pretty much spend all of our time together. I know I need to make an honest effort to expand my social circle, but I fear that replacing time with her on the weekends with other activities will not go over well with her.
We've talked about this issue over the past few years, but nothing has changed. I can't entirely blame her since we are just used to the way we've done things for the past five years, and I only reinforce this at times to keep the peace between us. I've accepted it as the "way things are," but I don't know if I could handle this for the rest of my life.
She has told me numerous times within the past year that she wants to marry me but that there's no rush. I can envision her being my wife at times, but there are times when I don't feel "it" and that scares me.
Since we do almost everything together, if I were to break things off, I would pretty much have nothing in terms of a social life since I have an almost nonexistent social life outside of her. She is pretty much my life outside of my family and work, so in a way, I wouldn't just be moving on from her, but pretty much moving on from my way of life for the past five years.
Am I crazy to consider giving up on a relationship with a woman who honestly loves me, relates to me, and wants to spend the rest of her life with me, even though I have a gut feeling that things could feel more 50/50 with someone else?
– Confused, Boston
A: I find it fascinating, Confused, that you thought your letter would anger readers. It's not an ire-producing letter. That comment is just more evidence of your fear of honesty. You must work on your ability to disclose. As you've learned, keeping your wants to yourself doesn't help anyone.
My advice is to sign up for some specific weekly activities -- recreational sports, a cooking class, or maybe some sort of book club. If you don't have a hobby that requires you to mingle with other people at a specific time, that socializing won't happen. An organized activity will allow you to schmooze. It will also help you gauge whether your girlfriend will allow for extracurriculars. If she reacts negatively to something as simple as a softball league, well, you have cause for concern.
It's very difficult to change the power structure in a relationship, but it's possible. The change has to come from you. You have to be assertive (not passive-aggressive!). You have to be honest. You also have to be empathetic about the fact that after five years, you're changing the rules.
Some readers are going to say that this relationship is doomed, but I'm not so sure. As you said, you've enabled this behavior. "I fear that replacing time with her on the weekends with other activities will not go over well with her." You fear her reaction -- but you don't know what it will be. Give her some credit. Talk to her (again) about your concerns. Then take action. And whenever you get scared of speaking your mind, remember why you're doing it. It's the best thing for both of you. It's about figuring out what will make you happy for the rest of your life.
Readers? Will this relationship ever be 50-50? How can the letter writer lean to speak up? Is the girlfriend taking advantage of the passive tendencies? What's going on here? Talk.
– Meredith
What is he hiding?
You're loyal. And witty. But you already knew that.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I love your column, including the commentary from your loyal and witty readers. I'm writing because I'm rather peeved with a long time friend/could-have-been suitor, Jay. I met Jay about 15 years ago when I was 19 and he was 29. Timing and other issues (he was weird and a bit too intense/I had a boyfriend) prevented us from pursuing a relationship. We remained friends until it became too awkward being around him knowing he had feelings for me that I didn't reciprocate.
After losing touch for a few years, we became reacquainted. We spoke and e-mailed each other throughout the day, hung out several times during the week, and later we started an intimate relationship. I introduced him to my family and friends but never met any of his. He would speak about his family in the vaguest terms, never even mentioning them by name. Still, I found myself developing strong feelings for him, but Jay was hesitant to acknowledge we were anything other than friends. I wasn't okay with this, so I made clear we could be friends but there would be no more sex.
When I started dating other people, he admitted he was jealous and expressed happiness when things didn’t work out with the new guy(s). He hinted that we should be together and constantly reminded me that if I had "chosen" him, we'd be married with children today. He even planned a weekend trip out of town -- nothing romantic, just something to do (a sudden death my family caused us to nix those plans).
My feelings for him never really diminished -- actually quite the opposite -- but during this time some red flags went up (no home or cell phone/roommates denied Jay actually lived with them, even though I've spent several nights there). I've always joked that Jay is married or living with someone, but he has always been ready with a plausible excuse. I don't have concrete proof that he is involved with anyone else and he has never changed his story, but lately I just don't feel right about this situation. To be honest, it shouldn't even matter considering I'm currently in a relationship (fyi - I never cheated on my boyfriend with Jay). However, I do love Jay and at the very least, I've always considered him one of my closest friends. I'm angry and saddened that he would lie to me like this for so long, and a small part of me feels that I should get some actual proof before cutting him completely out of my life.
Meredith, what is the likelihood that there's a perfectly logical explanation for Jay's situation? Does he deserve a chance to prove that he is not married or in a relationship with someone else? Why would someone who purports to be a good friend do something like this?
– I Need Better Friends, Boston
A: Jay isn't your friend, INBF. He's your ex. (Thank goodness.) And because he's your ex, it doesn't matter what he's up to.
Maybe Jay is married. Maybe he's a spy. Maybe he is a superhero like Batman and has no family (besides Alfred) and doesn't want to expose you his lair. Or, more likely, his roommates are just total jerks who want to see if they can pull one over on you. The truth doesn’t matter. You don't have to know the details. You just have to know that he's a guy who's now a part of your past.
Treat him like any other ex. Catch up with the occasional e-mail, send the holiday card (to his fake address), and stop to chat if you happen to run into each other at Fenway. But don't think of him as a close friend. You don't even know where he lives.
As for loving Jay, well, let's work on that. You're allowed to care about him because you dated him, but you should have other priorities now. Don't let the fact that Jay is older, unattainable, and mysterious make him seem more important or more desirable.
Take the energy you've spent trying to play detective and use it to set some new boundaries. And yes, find some new friends. Better friends. Close friends are not people who hide things from you and tell you that you’d be married to them if you’d have made different/better choices. Close friends are people who tell you everything -- even the stuff you don’t want to hear.
(Of course, if you do happen to figure out what Jay is hiding, please send us an update. Yeah, you've got me curious.)
Readers? Is she still in love with Jay? Can you have a close relationship with someone who discloses so little? Is Jay a superhero? Married? Or a bank robber? (Sorry. Just saw "The Town.") Why is she still thinking about Jay to begin with? Help.
– Meredith
He's always with his dorm friends
So, um, we could have grilled cheese in front of City Hall.
I'm entertaining today's letter because everyone's back at college. The young people need our help. They're pretty clueless, actually.
Q: Dear Meredith,
My boyfriend and I have had a great relationship for five months. We have sort of always been more secluded people who prefer to spend time alone together or with a very small group of friends.
We just recently moved to a different state to go to college. He goes to the big university and I'm living alone, working, and going to community college, hoping to be able to afford to go to his school next year. My boyfriend moved into the dorms and now he has a whole group of friends from his floor while I live alone and struggle to make friends.
Now my boyfriend who used to love spending time with me is always with these friends and whenever we spend time alone his friends get irritated. It really stresses my boyfriend out and I don't want him to feel like he has to choose between me and his friends but every time we all hang out together they shut me out.
My boyfriend says not to take it too personally because they apparently don't really accept anyone outside of their group and it's not like they don't like me -- but they don't at the same time, if that makes sense. We fight constantly over this issue.
I understand that they he needs his time with his friends but they're now affecting my relationship. I love my boyfriend and I hate seeing him stressed. He loves me but lives with these people.
Is there anything else I can try to do to fit in with his exclusive group of friends? Is it just a new experience phase that I should just stick out or is there any advice you would give me to try and salvage my relationship with my boyfriend?
– Shut Out, San Diego
A: SO, first of all, you can't use the phrase "we have sort of always" after dating someone for five months. You haven't "sort of always" done anything. Your relationship is too new to have patterns and habits.
Your relationship changed because he's in college and you're not (obviously). It'd be one thing if he was a senior, but he's a freshman, right? Freshmen travel in packs. They go to house parties in groups of 20. I don't know why they do this. It's just the way they deal with the newness of school, I guess. Come to Boston and stand on Commonwealth Avenue on a Friday night. You'll see what I mean. It's very weird.
I don't know what kind of future you have with your boyfriend -- you're both quite young – but I do know that this pack mentality is temporary. It gets old after the first year. The pack shrinks.
But even in a smaller pack, your boyfriend won't become any less social. College is the time to go out, socialize, and befriend many. You'll want to make your own friends when you join him. Give him space and see if you can get your own pack together at community college. I bet there are social groups on campus. Friends are key -- with or without a boyfriend.
As for getting his friends to like you, well, you've got one thing going for you -- an off-campus apartment. Invite them over, the whole pack. Let them play loud music and lounge in your personal space. That's about all you can do.
Readers? Can you explain the pack to this letter writer? What can she do to befriend the pack? How can her boyfriend balance his two lives? Can they make this work? Discuss.
– Meredith
I like his brother
Word of the day: Untoward.
Q: Like all your other writers, I find myself surprised to be writing in, but my weird little issue is really bothering me and some advice would be much appreciated.
Let's start with my current relationship, which is far from perfect, but perfect for me. I've been with my boyfriend for 10 years, and it's been great. I love him and he loves me. The problem is his family. Actually, let me rephrase that: the problem is me and family relationships.
I was never very close to my family. I have a brother who I rarely speak to and when I do, am at a total loss as to what to say. It's amazing we share genes because there is nothing else we have remotely in common. My parents are more like my brother and they have formed a tight little family where they share their passions and interests. Boyfriend's family is fantastic. They're warm, loving people who have opened their arms and hearts to me and make me feel more at home then I ever did with my own family. I do share interests with them and find myself engaged in conversations and activities with them that I never had growing up.
My issue is his brother. He's a great person and he cares about me. He cares about me the way I think brothers are supposed to care for sisters. He goes to bat for me, jokes with me, does all the sibling things that people do in the movies. Often the three of us hang out for long lengths of time. We travel together and goof off. Brother and Boyfriend are very close so Brother is a fixture in our home and our lives. Never having a real sibling relationship, sometimes I feel guilty, like should I be having fun with someone other than Boyfriend? When does it get weird? I have plenty of male friends, but I'm just closer to Brother. He feels like family.(Nothing untoward has ever happened and it wouldn't; it's not like that.)
The problem is me. I just don't know what a healthy relationship is like with non-friends and non-significant others. Am I wrong to enjoy Brother's company? Is it wrong to have a TV-sibling relationship with someone I'm not actually related to?
– Essentially an Orphan, Boston
A: EAO, it's not wrong to have a close relationship with your boyfriend's brother. It's pretty great, actually.
Even if you admitted that you had a tiny crush on Brother, I wouldn't be worried. You met someone you really dig (Boyfriend). It makes sense that the person who's most like your boyfriend would appeal to you. Weird little friend crushes are normal.
My only advice is to make sure that Boyfriend knows that he comes first. Save the real emotional intimacy for him. He's your partner. He's your best friend. He's your first phone call. Always. Brother can be second phone call, but Boyfriend is first.
I love non-traditional TV families. I love non-traditional real-life families. Sometimes I feel like the people at the Globe might as well be Goldsteins. They're certainly as annoying as Goldsteins.
Every family is different. Every romantic relationship is unique. We all make it up as we go along.
Readers? Is this a weird set up? Does she have two boyfriends? Does she have anything to worry about? Thoughts on Brother and Boyfriend? Any boundaries she should set? Talk.
– Meredith
I have dating leprosy
This letter inspired me to read about leprosy on Wikipedia for about 20 minutes.
Q: I'm 32 years old, successful, lots of friends, active in the community in a lot of ways, very social, and what my male friends call a "head turner."
I have also been divorced for just over a year (two-year marriage -- he had an emotional affair and was seriously mentally ill).
I can't get a boyfriend. I've met plenty of men in the year since my divorce and they seem interested in two things -- my friendship or getting me into bed. And that's it. I've heard every excuse under the sun why NOT me -- "I'm not ready for a relationship." "I already met someone." "The timing is off." "Just not interested." I'll go on one date, but they get so turned off by me that there's never a second date. But none will ever tell me why.
Am I too intimidating? What do I need to change about myself to get a man to look at me as girlfriend material?
I've lived a pretty interesting and full life at 32 years -- won some major awards for my work, lived some interesting places, and met some cool people. I've been lucky and blessed. I love my friends, I (generally) love my job, I am responsible financially (occasionally shoe purchase not withstanding), and I don't beat my dog.
I just don't get it.
I watch guys I'm interested in pick other girls and I keep asking, “Why not me?"
As the same time all of this is happening, my ex-husband wants to reconcile and I don't know what to do. He loved me, he was great to me until the emotional affair/his illness spiraled out of control. Plus, while he's claiming celibacy the last year, I certainly have not (he left me - not the other way around).
In short, I'd kill for a boyfriend -- someone to talk to and spend time with. But it's like all those positives work against me. Men don't seem to want confident, pretty, smart, outgoing women.
I have plenty of male friends, but that's all they see me as - a "little sister." Not "girlfriend material."
While I'm not sure I want to get married again, a part of me is so painfully lonely that I'm tempted to reconcile with my ex just to be with SOMEONE.
What's it gonna take? I'm at my breaking point. I come home and cry almost daily over this because I feel so deficient and like a failure. I go to the therapy and she tells me there's nothing wrong with me. While mentally I believe that, my heart thinks I have leprosy of some sort.
– Leper of Dating, Waltham
A: You're not a leper, LOD. And please don't kill for a boyfriend.
My guess is that you're going to hear from a lot of 32-year-old readers today who have never been married and have survived for longer than a year without a significant other. They're probably going to tell you that you need to be patient. And they'll be right.
I agree with your therapist. There's nothing wrong with you. You just have to take your time. Relax. Adjust to your new life. Some of that crying is about coping with change, not about being single. Work through it.
And remember -- this is an exciting journey (don't roll your eyes). Usually, in books and movies about love, we follow a single heroine until she meets someone fantastic. That's the fun part -- watching her as a single person. You're back to being that single heroine. That means you're movie-worthy. You could be played in some annoying romantic comedy by some annoying hot actress. Congrats.
You're lonely, and there's no quick fix for that, but loneliness is a part of life. If you can learn to cope with solitude -- and love yourself as a single person (as opposed to diagnosing yourself with leprosy) -- you'll be much better off when you find another partner.
And don't reconcile with your ex. It's a bad idea. You've made it clear that you're excited to be with someone new.
Readers? Who would play her in the annoying romantic comedy of her life? Is she asking for too much after a year? Does it get easier to be single over time? Should she consider the ex? Is it possible she has dating leprosy? Is her resume the problem? Discuss.
– Meredith
He doesn't want to get married
Sorry about the tech issues yesterday. They're fixed. If you want to add some comments to yesterday's letter (the comment box wasn't working after about 3 p.m.), feel free, especially if you're looking for some closure.
Not that I believe in closure. No such thing.
Q: I have been in a relationship with "Joe" for almost two years. I have never been so enamored with anyone in my life. We have a fabulous time together and he has a wonderful, caring heart. Everybody loves him because he really is just a great guy.
We are both divorced. I was married for just under four years. I married the wrong person and I was just too young and immature at the time. I married my ex because it was something that I thought I "should" do and because everyone was telling me what a great couple we were -- but I was never truly in love with him. We have an amazing son who is now five, and my ex and I are very amicable. He has since remarried.
Joe was married for over 20 years. He is 18 years older than me, which I have never had any problem with. His divorce was extremely tumultuous and the last years of his marriage were extremely difficult. His kids are older and I get along very well with them. I waited a while for Joe to meet my son because I didn't want my son to be subjected to a revolving door of dates and relationships. After about eight months of dating, I started to let Joe and my son spend some time together because I felt the timing was right and I felt very secure in the relationship. Joe was aware that it was a big step for me.
My issue is that I am looking to get married again. I am in no rush to get married soon. I don't need to get married this year or even next year but I do want to share my life and my son with someone. I know that I don't need to have more children, but I do want that long relationship and someone to grow old with. The problem is Joe is definitely not looking to get married again in the near future and perhaps ever. We've been having this discussion often lately and we talk in circles. I say that I understand that maybe we are just simply at different life stages, and that I get that he's "been there, done that" with a long marriage and is enjoying his freedom. I'll go on to tell him that I'm doubtful that we'll ever be on the same page and that we should go our separate ways. His response is that he loves me, is committed to me, is happier than he's ever been and doesn't want to lose me BUT he is unsure of if or when he'll want marriage again. I genuinely love this man Meredith, but I don't want to keep investing my time and heart in something that has no future.
Furthermore, I don't want my son to grow attached to someone who will leave.
Am I spinning my wheels? Am I wasting my time? Or am I trying to anticipate the future too much and over-thinking the situation? Am I being too anxious and fidgety? Should I just relax and enjoy? Take one day at a time? HELP PLEASE!
– Anxious in Love, Boston
A: You're not being unnecessarily anxious and fidgety, AIL. You want to know if your boyfriend of two years plans to stick around. You say that you don't need to get married again soon -- but maybe you want to. Your wants count.
Have you asked him what he means when he says he doesn't want to get married again? Is he opposed to living with you? Is he opposed to sharing money? Does he expect to bail in a few years? Or is he open to everything but the legal title?
If you knew he had hopes to share his life with you -- just without the wedding and the marriage license -- would that calm your nerves? If so, ask him if he has any interest in committing without the party. That would be a start.
If he doesn't want to get married because he's only comfortable dating, I think you should consider looking for someone who wants more. This guy is almost 20 years older than you. He has raised kids. He knows himself. If he's telling you that he doesn't want to get married because he has "been there, done that," well, that's just not good enough for you. You've been there and done that but you want to do it again.
A fresh start would be very difficult for your son, but it would be worse for him to watch his mom spin her wheels, as you put it.
Find out what your guy means when he says he doesn't want to get married again. Then be honest with yourself about what you want.
(You probably wanted me to tell you that you're overreacting and being silly but you're not. Sorry.)
Readers? Should she just enjoy the status quo? Or am I right? Does his "been there, done that" attitude mean he can't share his life with the letter writer? Discuss.
– Meredith
Can a cheater ever change?
Q: Hi Meredith,
I am 61 and have been engaged for the past four years. I have had a relationship with my fiancé, who is about my age, for 10 years. We are both divorced.
My fiancé's 16-year marriage was ruined by his infidelities. He cheated with at least four to five other women. He was up front about this from the beginning. I met him when he had been separated for six months. He has always had many platonic female friends, some for over 20 years, and my friends find him charming and handsome.
Months ago, I was informed by another woman that he has been in a physical and emotional relationship with her while I have been with him. The woman is someone he has always been close with. Their first affair lasted on and off for years and then continued with breaks up until last year. I am very hurt but feel that he is committed to our relationship. I have asked that he cease connections with all his women friends and seek counseling.
The longer I stew over his history the more I realize he has treated a lot of women poorly in the past. At this point he has been deceitful and betrayed every woman he's ever been with, including myself. I have only this one mark against him but the ghosts are lurking in my mind. I have read about narcissism and pathological personalities and I am worried he may be a man that has long periods between his affairs or that a real personality disorder exists for him.
We live with each other on weekends and see each other every night but he sleeps in his condo during the week due to his job requirements. He has stated that he is unhappy with this separation during the week but abides by my wishes that I remain in my home in the country. I have no desire to live in the city.
I want a future I can feel secure about, but I can't easily forget the past. Should I continue to ask him not to have contact with his female friends and believe the one was a red herring? Should I remain in a status quo situation forever or just press on for marriage. He wants to marry me and tells me he will never be unfaithful again. Is there hope for a man with such a history? He has always claimed that his unfaithfulness was due to no woman meeting his emotional needs. Something doesn't sound "kosher" to me. I would appreciate other women's feedback and can't turn to my friends or family because of my professional position.
– Can he be fixed?, Western Mass.
A: CHBF, get thee to therapy. With him. As soon as possible.
"I have only this one mark against him." Um, that one mark is a long-term affair with one of his close female friends. That's one big, fat mark. And it's not like he was the one who came clean. You heard from the other woman.
From what you're telling us, your fiancé blames his affairs on his partners. It's their fault for not giving him enough attention. And here you are telling us that you don't give him attention on weekdays, when he lives in the city. Recipe for disaster.
You need to ask him all of your very fair questions in front of a third party who can help you navigate what happens next. For whatever reason, it's difficult to avoid the truth with a professional in the room. It's also difficult to forgive the unforgivable when someone with a license is watching. Gross proclamations of narcissism sound even sillier with an audience.
Yes, you're always going to wonder if he's cheating. That's just the way it is. He cheated on others. He cheated on you. You either live with that anxiety and trust that he's working to ignore his desires, or you walk. The therapy should help with that decision. It's not easy to figure out on your own after 10 years.
And if he refuses to see a professional, well, there's your answer. At this point he should be doing everything possible to convince you that he's for real, including making your country abode his home base. If he has no interest in working this out in therapy, he isn't taking you/this problem seriously.
Readers? Can chronic cheaters change? Will therapy do any good? After 10 years, what is worth saving? Is it relevant that they've been engaged for four years but didn't get married? Discuss -- and have a nice weekend (and New Year, for those who celebrate).
– Meredith
My boyfriend's quarter-life crisis
He's been unhappy for two weeks. That's a long time if you're 25, apparently.
Q: I feel like such a tool writing about this because it seems so minuscule compared to the other letters you post. But I'm stuck and I'm hoping you might be able to make some sense of my situation.
To sum up a really long story, I'm 24 and my boyfriend turned 25 last week. We have been dating for six years. We met one month before I graduated high school. We went to different colleges, but both in the state and both still live at home with our parents for financial reasons. I am ashamed of this because I feel I should be out on my own at this age, as should he, but that's an issue for another day.
A few weeks ago after work one night we did the whole date-night thing, but he seemed a little distant. When we went our separate ways he was still acting weird, so I called him to ask him what was up. One thing led to another and we met back up so that he could tell me he is unhappy and has been for two weeks. He said that it's not that he's unhappy with me -- just unhappy in general. He can't pinpoint why he feels like this. He loves me. He sees himself with me. He doesn't want to break up. He just needs space.
We have taken two breaks over the course of our relationship -- one for two weeks when we were 19, the other for eight months after he turned 21. I think, while many disagree with breaks, it was the smartest thing we could have done since we had been together at such a young age, and we both got our immature stuff out of our system. After that eight-month period, we decided we wanted to get back together. Since then our relationship has been pretty close to perfect, as far as I can tell.
Anyway, since his birthday was last week and I had already had a surprise get-together planned for all of his friends, we decided to go through with it. He said he couldn't think of anyone he'd rather spend his birthday with, so we had the party. We got along fine during the night, and honestly, if you didn't know we were "taking a break," you really wouldn't have known there was a problem. At one point at dinner I had to bring it up because it was eating away at me not knowing what has been bothering him. He couldn't tell me. He "doesn't know." He's asking for a maximum of two months. And he says he really doesn't think that I have anything to worry about, and that he really doesn't see this ending. In my gut I believe him.
We have activities planned for the next few weekends, and they are things that I cannot miss. One of them is a concert we have already bought tickets for and are both looking forward to, and the other is a weekend-long fundraiser for a mutual friend. We have many mutual friends who were his first, but they have become just as close to me over the course of our relationship.
I don't even know what I'm really asking. I'm defining this as a mid-20s crisis, since he's really got a lot going on in terms of family, not having a job, and dealing with the pressure of us growing up. I mean, we're 24 and 25. I don't have a need to get married and have kids in the next year or two. Although that is what I'm surrounded by, and I'm kind of thinking he might be feeling that pressure.
I really have faith that we'll work it out and that in the end we will be fine, but it is killing me not to talk to him or to know what's going on in his head or why he's unhappy. And I'm trying to respect his space and not call him, especially because I know I have set-in-stone times that I will see him, even if it is with a group of people. But it's hard not to think about the what-ifs. What if it's over? Could there be someone else? Is this something I should be concerned about? Is it normal for a guy to have a mid-life crisis at 25, especially given our situation?
I'm hoping you can provide some insight, advice, or just maybe a hammer across the head telling me it's going to be fine. Or that it's not. Whatever. Readers, be kind.
– Hopelessly devoted, Southern Mass.
A: HD, he's not having a mid-life crisis. He's having a quarter-life crisis (cue that John Mayer song). Actually, let's not even call it a crisis. He's just being 25.
I do think it's weird that he needed a break after being unhappy for two weeks. Two weeks is a blip. And what's with the everything-will-be-fine-in-two-months thing? Where is he getting these arbitrary timelines for happiness?
There might be someone else. Or maybe he just wants to know what it would feel like to attend a few social events as a sort-of single guy. Who knows?
My advice is to ride out the next two months. See how you interact at these social events. Is he distant? Is he more like a friend than a boyfriend? At the end of two months (which isn't a very long time, by the way) see where he is. If he needs more time, take some time for yourself, too. You said it best-- you're both quite young. You can keep taking little breaks here and there to sow oats, or you can split for real so that you know what being alone is really like. If at the end of two months he's still feeling queasy about life in general, consider a real, grown-up split. Branch out and make some new friends. Expand your circle. Have your own quarter-life experience.
A real break-up doesn't mean you won't ever get back together, by the way. It just means that you're being honest about what you are now -- 25, home with your parents, and unsure about everything.
I can't promise you that the two of you are going to stay together. But I can tell you that everything is going to be fine.
Readers? Thoughts? Is two months all it takes? What's with all of the breaks? Can you give her some words of wisdom? Discuss.
– Meredith
The proposal ultimatum
I'm back. My sinuses are drained. It's a good day.
Feel free to continue yesterday's holiday discussion about the T.
Today's letter is about forcing a proposal.
Q: I've got a question for you and your readers. Quick background: I've been with my girlfriend for 4-plus years. I'm 29 and she just turned 31. We met when we were both living in another state. I got a new job in Boston a couple years ago. My girlfriend moved to Boston after a few months of me living here. She got her own apartment because she does not believe in living together before you are married. We are at a crossroads because I just found out that I got a promotion and that I am going to have to relocate to Washington D.C. in the fall. She's willing to go with me but she has some requirements. She says in order to move there with me she expects a deeper commitment (i.e. engaged).
Even though I love her and want to stay together, I am not ready to get married. Maybe someday but not right this second. She's everything I could ask for in a future wife. She's extremely kind, loving, and gorgeous. I understand her point of view and that wanting her to move to another city without a ring is selfish on my part. But I just don't like the idea that I proposed because of an ultimatum. My guy friends say that I should just propose since she's the best thing to ever happen to me. They also say that a ring will keep her happy for a few years and then maybe by then, I'll be ready for an actual wedding. I wonder if we should split up now due to the marriage issue or if I should just man up and get a diamond? Have others been in my shoes? I have no idea if I should go left or right. Any insight is much appreciated.
– Pressured in Peabody
A: I hate ultimatum proposals, PIP. I'm with you. Nothing says romance like, "I was forced!"
To be fair, your girlfriend just wants to be assured that she isn't committing herself to a shaky relationship at 31. As if an engagement means that you'll love living together enough to get married. As if the promise of marriage means that everything will go smoothly. If you propose because she has threatened you, it's not as though you'll be any more confident about your relationship or the concept of marriage. You'll have fulfilled a requirement. If she's comforted by that, well, I feel bad for her. That's a real false sense of security.
My advice is to tell her what you really want and ask for a compromise. Don't propose and cross your fingers that you'll want to get married later. See if there's a third option.
Of course, she might not budge on her demands. And if that's the case, you either give in or you don't based on what scares you more, losing her or marrying her.
I have no idea if I should go left or right. That's a bit weird, right? I mean, after four years, shouldn't the thought of losing her scare the heck out of you? You don't sound very scared to me. Marrying her because your friend tells you that you can't do better just isn't a good idea. You're supposed to do it because you're sure that life is better with her than without her. If you're not, well, there you go.
Readers? Could he really go either way? What’s the deal with proposal threats? Has she ruined this with her demands? Should he propose without living with her? As a 31-year-old who has been with her boyfriend for four years, is she allowed to expect a grown-up commitment? Discuss.
– Meredith
A T pass?
I couldn't decide what to post for Labor Day. A letter? More Love Letters Spam? Updates?
Instead, here's something that’s more of an etiquette problem than a love problem, a letter we wouldn't post on a regular day but is good fodder for debate on a holiday Monday.
We'll get back to real problems tomorrow. In the meantime, discuss love on the T. And … am I the only person who finds Charlie from the Charlie Card moderately attractive? He's got a little Don Draper in him, I think.
Q: I'm a frequent reader and am curious to hear your advice on a conundrum I've been having. I consider myself to be a funny, kind, non-threatening, likable guy in my late 20s, but I'm initially very shy and have some self-confidence/self-image issues. This leads me to have difficulties meeting women, in general.
My question is -- what's the etiquette regarding talking to women on the T? Maybe it's because I'm shy, but I'm always skeptical when a random person tries to strike up a conversation on the T, but is it like that for everyone? Are women generally guarded against a guy approaching them on the train, or is it possible to make friends during the evening commute -- without getting maced?
– Curious Commuter, Saugus
A: You're allowed to approach a stranger, CC. But if you are rebuffed, please retreat.
You can say, "Nice backpack," and smile. You can say, "I feel like I see you every day. You must work near me." You can simply grin and nod. But if the object of your affection rolls his/her eyes or doesn't respond, that’s your answer. Move away. Stare out the window. Forget it ever happened.
I'd like to think that we're all allowed one chance to make a respectful pass. As long as your body language suggests that you're a shy-yet-hopeful guy who's not looking to steal a purse, you shouldn't get maced.
Just be prepared to move to the other end of the car if you get a dirty look. And don't take it personally if you do. Some people want their commute to be a quiet time. But I'm sure many folks out there would love it if a nice, cute, shy guy said hello during a long ride.
Readers? Are you open to being approached on the T? Is that weird? Is it any weirder than being approached in a bar? What's the trick? Is this harder on the Green Line? Discuss.
– Meredith
Can I grow to love my friend?
You know, it has been a while since we had an I-got-drunk-and-did-something-stupid letter. It really has. Like months. I was starting to worry.
Q: I'm an avid reader and I am really hoping that you can help me.
I recently started dating a co-worker. Things are going down the normal path of the beginning of a relationship. We talk all the time, exchange flirty looks whenever we see each other, and we have great, fun, adventurous dates. But this co-worker has made it very clear to me on multiple occasions that he is not looking for anything serious right now.
Last weekend I was extremely upset about this. A man who I have shared both a bed and my heart with did not want to be with me in "a serious" manner. I went out drinking with a few of my lady friends. I then started texting a friend who we will call "Safety Sam." I should mention that Safety Sam has always been deeply devoted to me and genuinely in love with me. He will drop everything for me. While texting Safety Sam, I also texted my co-worker to see if he wanted to meet up. The co-worker ignored me and Safety Sam gave me the attention that I wanted.
That is about all I remember from that night. Next thing I know, I wake up in Safety Sam’s bed wearing nothing but my birthday suit. At this point I start freaking out. I try to piece together my night. Honestly, how did I end up from a girl's night to a friend's bed? That part is still unclear. I started to worry that I have ruined everything with Safety Sam as well as my co-worker. So there I was, walking down the streets of Boston in a mini-dress and high heels at 10 a.m., reflecting on my poor choices from the night before.
Anyways, my question is this: should I just ditch the co-worker who does not want to be with me beyond flirting and sleeping together and be with a man who is profoundly loyal, dedicated, and faithful? I know I don't care about Safety Sam in the same way that he cares about me right now, but maybe I could grow to love him and want to be with him? Do you think this is possible?
– Walk of Shame, Southie
A: I'm hoping that Safety Sam is as safe as you think he is, WOS. You wound up drunk and in his bed. Really, ask him what he remembers. For your own piece of mind.
As for your question, I think you should ditch both guys. Really ditch them. Tell the work guy that you're actually looking for a real relationship and that you like him too much to be casual. Tell Safety Sam that you want some space from your friendship because you've taken advantage of it. See how it feels to lose him as a resource.
Take both men out of your cell phone, at least temporarily.
You need to figure out whether you seek attention from Sam because he's willing to give it or because maybe, just maybe, you like him more than you think you do.
For the record, I don't think that you're secretly in love with Safety Sam. And I don't think that you can make those feelings grow if they're not there. You don't want to be with a guy who doesn't want to commit (work guy) -- but you also don't want to be with a passive, too-devoted friend who'll do anything for someone who won't return the favor.
Cut everyone off. Get some space and clarity. I know, I know, easier said than done when you have two possible sources of attention. But you asked.
You deserve better than your work guy, unless he can rally. Safety Sam (assuming he is really safe) deserves someone who remembers getting into bed with him.
Readers? Should she cut everyone off? Is there more to Safety Sam than the letter writer is willing to admit? Think the work guy will step up if she tries to walk away? How should she deal with Sam after the bedroom debacle? Discuss.
– Meredith
She saves everything
Chat today at 1. Glenn's going to run it, but I plan to pop in. My sinuses are feeling good. No big-girl pain meds anymore (sadly). I'm starting to get bored.
I let this one go long because the downward spiral is sort of important.
Q: My girlfriend and I have been together for over a year. We have been long distance this past year, and because I love her and wanted to see where it would go, I moved back and gave up a well-paying job and comfortable situation to try things with her. She owns a house and I felt it made sense for me to come to her.
Since I moved in, I have been adjusting to not only being back in the area but to living with someone. While she has been amazing in so many ways, it has still been hard. I am not working and strapped for money. She does not have a lot of money either, so it has been a struggle as we have been living on the cheap. But the most difficult thing has been seeing all she keeps.
She doesn't get rid of much really, but in particular nothing from any ex. There are stuffed animals from every ex-girlfriend and cards from them and boxes that have tags but nothing in them from these people. Every time I clean a corner or move a box I find more mementos from ex-girlfriends!
The first thing I found was a framed picture of her and her most recent ex-girlfriend. I calmed myself down, made a joke, and then just asked that she get it out of the frame and put it somewhere else. She explained that when she takes things out of frames, she loses them, to which I asked why it mattered. We got into a heated debate that ended with me just asking that she move the picture out of the room. But she did not even do that. It took me taking the framed picture and putting it out on a shelf for her to finally move it. In the meantime I have been moving things in and cleaning and finding more and more.
Last night I explained that while I too save things from people and exes, I just try to save the important stuff. Not boxes of things in every crevice of the house. She asked if I still had all the cards she sent me while I was overseas, which I do. Of course. Because we are still together. If we break up, I would keep one, maybe two.
Under her bed are stuffed animals and pictures, in the closet are cards and pictures and more stuffed animals, and up in the attic are more pictures! There is even a memory book that has 10 pages devoted to her and her very first girlfriend ever.
I mean, where is the line? When can I get upset? It feels to me like I am any other girlfriend. Does that make sense? I have said this but it doesn't seem to lead anywhere. Yes, she keeps the cards I sent her. But could she find those any easier than the ones from anyone else? Nope. They are all just scattered everywhere. So are they any more meaningful?
It is just frustrating because I want to be with someone who wants me above anyone else. Not someone who just settles for me because nothing else seemed to pan out. I feel like I know I want her because I made sacrifices and have put myself out there but I am not sure I believe she has. Yes, I am living with her. But her previous relationship -- they were ready to move in together, too. I'm just the first one in the house because she just bought the house and met no one serious in that time between. And the only reason she and the last girl did not live together was because the ex balked at it. And then they finally broke up. Do you follow me? Is it beyond crazy? Because to me it is just ... the more I think about it the more to me I just feel like an addition -- like another roommate -- if I'm here, I'm here. If I go, I go. Know what I mean?
– Confused About My Place, Boston
A: I find it odd that so many of her exes gave her stuffed animals, CAMP. But that's another letter.
She's a hoarder and you’re not. She has the right to hoard and you have the right to demand that she pack up her mementos and put them in the basement where you don't have to see them. Because you live there and it's messy. Buy some plastic bins. Tell her to organize.
The bigger problem is that you're wondering whether you're your girlfriend's real partner of if you're just your girlfriend’s next girlfriend. (Read that twice and it will make sense.) Would you be asking that question if the mementos weren't in your face? Probably. The stress of a big move is bound to make you question everything. There's no way this was going to go smoothly. Even in a best case scenario you'd be uncomfortable in a new living situation.
Talk to your girlfriend about the effects of being displaced. She should empathize if you make this less about what she's doing wrong and more about how you're feeling. It's not just about the stuffed animals and old photos. It's that you want the house to be a shared space. You want to start building a life with your girlfriend. You want to make sure that's what she wants, too. What makes you different than past girlfriends? Ask. Find out.
I do think she wants you, by the way. I know that the reminders of her past are messing with your head, but you're over-simplifying her break-ups and your current relationship. You've forgotten all of the reasons why you moved. Write them down so you can remain sane. And talk to her about making the place a home for both of you. Organizing the mementos is just a part of the process.
And know this: if you're not ready to live together, that's OK. It doesn't mean the relationship is doomed. You can find a job and pay rent somewhere else and move in when you're really ready. I know it's about money, but consider what's best for both of you.
Readers? Is she just the first girlfriend who would move in? Is it weird that her ex keeps everything? Is the letter writer wrong to ask that the stuff to be put away? Should they be living together after a year of distance? What's happening here? Talk.
– Meredith
I can't let him go
Q: I am 27 and have been in an on-again, off-again relationship for seven years with a man who is a month older than I am. My ex, as I cannot refer to him as my boyfriend, has told me repeatedly that he is afraid of committing to me, due mostly, he says, to the fact that I have "rage problems." I have never physically harmed him, but have on two occasions grabbed his cell phone only to discover that he had been texting inappropriately and calling other women. He continues to limit his communication with me, and I find myself becoming obsessive about calling him. I wonder constantly where he is, what he is doing, and why he is not answering my calls or texts. I've explained to him that if he communicated better with me, I could "back off" and act like the independent woman that I am. If he backed away completely, I could see myself moving on, but the moment in which I'm moving away from him BOOM he's back in my life, telling me he loves me, wants to provide for me, but just isn't ready YET.
This is a very complicated relationship, but it seems to be the typical push and pull in some male and female relationships. The more I pull away, the more he comes back to me. The more he pushes me away, the more I desire his company. It's exhausting. I am tired. But I love him. How do I move on and not act crazy calling him 30 times in a row? How do I move on and meet someone new who doesn't bore me? I know in my heart we'll be happier with other people, but I love him. Help!
– Can't Let Go, Boston
A: How does one end a toxic relationship? One hits a wall, CLG. You haven't hit your wall yet, at least not hard enough.
My advice is to contact him and ask him about that temper of yours. You need to know what he means by "rage." You say you've never physically harmed him, but you don't seem to think his rage accusations are crazy. It's time to get self-aware and find out if your coping mechanisms are destructive.
I also recommend telling him how much you're thinking about him and explaining what you want right now. And tell him that after seven years, it really does have to be right now. Most likely, he'll shrivel up like a turtle (do turtles shrivel?) and run away with his cell phone. And then perhaps you'll have finally hit that wall and you'll want nothing more than to be with someone who doesn't make you feel like a stalker. You'll want to be with someone who makes you feel good.
He has been with you since he was 20 and he wants to date other people. And his obvious need to do that has turned you into someone you don't like. After seven years, this is a habit. It's time to get a real final answer and commit to it. It's also time to take a good look at what you've become in this relationship. You should want to be in a relationship that makes you feel cool, not crazy. Trust me, when you find that kind of relationship, it will be just as addictive as this one, not at all boring.
Ask him about the rage. Demand what you want. Commit to a decision. Wipe the slate.
Readers? What's going on here? Are the rage issues a real problem? Usually these toxic relationships aren't seven-year itches, just short-term messes. What makes this one different? Did his commitment issues drive her crazy? Is there something to save here (and if so, why didn’t she say so)? And -- is the push-pull a man-woman thing? Talk.
– Meredith
I can't deal without him
Good morning.
Q: Hello Meredith,
I am a long time reader of your blog and find that you and your commenters have sound advice and plenty of experience with almost every subject. I have noticed that the last few letters have been about passion vs. love and I wanted to first share my experience but also find out what to do now.
My husband and I met while we were both in the military reserves. Almost nine years ago, we attended a two week course together. I was living in the Midwest at the time, he was living on the East Coast, and we were both married to different people. We fell in love at first sight at that school; passion like you would not believe and a biting realization that we had both married the wrong person because we didn't wait long enough for the other to come along.
Following that school, my then lover deployed overseas with the military. We wrote e-mails and old fashion letters to each other and our bond grew closer and closer. Just as he returned back to the states, it was my turn to deploy. We continued writing and I called when I could. Meanwhile we both filed for divorce from our then partners.
I returned from my deployment and we both found ourselves in Boston. This was six years ago and we have never looked back. Each day with him is more thrilling than the last and every moment is full of excitement. I never believed in soul mates until I met him. We complement each other like ice cream and cones, like Oreos needs its icing and like peaches with cream -- we are ALMOST inseparable.
Last weekend he deployed again. Leading up to it we both thought it wouldn’t be so bad, we got through it once before, we could do it again. Since he left though, I've been just a wreck. He had become such a huge part of my life that I find it difficult to do anything on my own. We had always thought of it as a beautiful symbiotic relationship, but now I am feeling more like a parasite without a host. He seems to be dealing just fine with our separation, but I can’t seem to carry on.
How does one move on from a "break up" when you haven't truly broken up? How do I learn to love him during our year apart that doesn’t leave me in tears? How do I deal with his calm, cool attitude to focus on his mission when all I want is for him to break down and cry for me too? How do I turn passion into love?
(A note for your commenters: I know how much they hate a cheater, so I wanted to add that we have both reconnected with our exes, who are both re-married and have loving, wonderful families. We all got married too young and to the wrong person and all four of us are more than happy with the eventual outcome.)
– Many Interesting Stories Start "How I Met…"
A: You have a person addiction, MISSHIM. You're addicted to the love of your life. That's not the worst thing. Beats heroin.
Yes, a year is going to be huge -- and it's terrible and annoying because you've grown accustomed to a routine. But you're in the military. This is what you signed up for. For now. You know the drill.
He's coping because he has to, military-style. Not only that, he changed his scenery, whereas you're stuck in the same place, just without him. That's why he can play it cool.
You say you feel like a parasite without a host. Sounds like you could use some time to figure out how to deal with life by yourself just a little. Make some new friends. Find some military wives to keep you company. Fantasize about what it will be like when he returns. Take a class. Write long letters.
For the record, after six years, it's love, not lust. You've already past the passion point. You're just a little obsessed with this love and now it has been taken away from you for a year. Give this some time. Your reaction sounds pretty normal to me.
Readers? Is she right that her passion hasn't turned into a more appropriate, mature love? Is there something she can do to cope with the year-long distance? What does it mean that she can't deal with life alone? Today's letter soundtrack? Share.
– Meredith
He needs a real job
Sinus surgery at 7:30 a.m. today. Up my nose with a rubber hose. Thanks to those who had book suggestions for recovery boredom.
And finally, here are your self-help book reviews.
And today's letter ….
Q: Hi Meredith,
I'm a Bostonian in her mid-20s and have been in a relationship with an amazing man for two years. We moved in together a few months ago and I have no doubt in my mind that he's the one for me. Everything about our relationship is great except the fact that he has absolutely no career goals or ambitions what so ever. This drives me crazy! Everyone always tells me not to worry about it because we are both still young (he is 27) but I do worry about it. To me, 27 is not that young. We talk about our future all the time; getting married, buying a house, having kids. I don’t see or want this to happen until we either have acquired or set ourselves on the right path towards a career.
I come from a family of women who all had children by the age 20 and most have yet to (and I doubt ever will) find a career that makes them happy or is lucrative. They all struggle financially and I see how this affects every aspect of their lives. I am not that woman and never want to be. I have finally figured out what I want to do with my life and am taking steps towards making that happen (i.e. graduate education and new job opportunities).
He has a steady job that he excels at but it is not something he can make a career out of. Pay is decent but not something you can build the type of future we talk about. He did not attend college (minus the 2 or 3 classes under his belt from a community college) and I fear his job options are minimal. I try and bring up the subject but never succeed in getting my point across to him for fear that he will be insulted. What is the best way for me to bring this up to him? How do you tell someone you don't think their job is good enough? I believe he has so much more potential then he thinks but I don't know how to put it so that it's positive and inspiring instead of negative. I just flat out don’t know what to do. Please help!
– Help Me Help Him, Boston
A: "He has a steady job that he excels at."
Is he happy, HMHH?
If the answer is yes, let me help you, HMHH. Don't put your timetable on him. Don't put your women-in-my-family-could-have-done-better-for-themselves stuff on him either. Love him as the wage-earning guy he is or don't.
If the answer is no, you can tell him that you'd love to help him find a job that makes him happy -- because you want him to enjoy his life. You're willing to order food while editing his resume, play music while he hunts for jobs online, and take him to the movies when he's done. Make sure you tell him your offer is about his happiness. You just want to help.
He has to do what he wants to do. If he wants a career and just can't figure out how to take the steps to get one, fine -- offer suggestions. But don't assume he wants what you want. Not wanting what you want is OK.
The women in your family gave up careers for kids. It's your wish not to do the same. I'm sure there are a bunch of people out there who are committed to working to live as opposed to living to work because their parents spent too much time at the office. You're going to be a rock star career-wise no matter what you do. You need to decide whether you can be with someone who isn’t.
Readers? Is she trying to help him or is she helping herself? If he is unhappy and does want a career, how can she help him take the steps to get one? Should he have a career by 27? Should she put off plans with him until he finds a more appropriate job? A friend and I were just discussing this story. Relevant? Discuss.
– Meredith
Forgiving his dark secret
Book reviews will be posted tomorrow. I'm having our Northeastern/Emerson co-cops vote on the winner because I just can't choose.
Also, tomorrow I'll be having sinus surgery. That's not code for "nose job." Apparently, my bad asthma might get better if I let a doctor operate on my sinuses, so I'm doing that tomorrow morning.
That's relevant to you only because it means I'll need some good reading next week when I'm home recovering. If you've been thinking about sending a letter and haven't, now's the time. If you have any suggestions for movies/books to keep me busy, let me know.
Today's letter is heavy. I had to think about it for a few days.
Q: Dear Meredith,
After almost 20 years of marriage, I asked my husband to leave. I grew up and he didn't. I got a promotion at my job after about two months of him being gone and things were going great. With two children, the last thing I wanted was another man
Six months in, I decided maybe I wanted to meet someone and started looking on internet dating sites. Long story short, I met someone, spoke on the phone consistently, and then finally met in person.
Although "Tom" was not what I would have sought out in person, the more we spoke, the more I realized how much we were alike. We were both in our 40s, each had 2 children, had similar interests and were both hard-working goal setters.
For the past two years Tom and I have been seeing each other almost every weekend, and when time allows, days during the week. He is a good, honest, and loving man. Our relationship has been "out of the park" in all aspects.
During these two years, he had made occasional references that there was something in his past that he had done and was not proud of, but I never pursued interest; we've all done stupid things in our past. Well, finally when speaking about possibly moving forward and moving in together, the truth came out and it was more then I was ready for.
Tom told me that about 10 years ago -- so that puts him about 30ish --he picked up a woman who happened to be under legal age. He said he didn't know it and she didn't look it. Again, long story short, he was arrested, they told him since he had no prior record to sign a paper and he would probably get probation. He was scared, signed the paper and spent two years in jail. I do not have all the details, and have to ask myself if I really want to hear any more.
Anyway, here I am, two years of being tremendously happy, loved, comforted, and thinking I have finally found my soul mate. I know in my heart he is a wonderful man and I love him so much, but now this sits in the back of my mind making me crazy. I told him it was in his past and knowing the man he is, we could surpass this and move forward.
My heart says stay, this man is not that man from years ago who made a very serious poor decision. My head says this could present obstacles going forward that I may not be ready or willing to handle. Help!
– Disappointed Heart, Massachusetts
A: I know you think you don't want to hear more about his horrible past, DH, but really, this is the time to ask questions -- of him and of yourself.
How did he process the experience? Not just the crime, but the jail time. How did he move on? How did it affect his ability to interact with women? Who else knows about this in his life? How did his family cope? Where is the woman now? Has this prevented him from getting jobs?
I have a million questions, which means you do, too. Ask them. Not because everything is your business and because you're stacking evidence against him, but because if you get all of your questions answered now, you can put the issue to rest -- either by admitting to yourself that you just have too many doubts to stay with him or by trusting your gut (and his) and forgiving his past.
Some of the million questions you might want to ask yourself: How well do you know him? Was this a surprise to you? Are you comfortable having this man around your kids? Did this story turn some of his other stories into lies? What is he asking of you?
My guess is that you do know this man rather well and that it is what it looks like. But ask, ask, ask. Get all of your concerns out there right now. He told you so that you could start this living partnership with some honesty, so take him up on that. He expects questions. The more information you have, the more confident you'll feel about your choice and moving forward with or without him.
Readers? Could you forgive this dark secret? What does she need to know? Is there a right answer? Talk.
– Meredith
Am I Shallow Hal?
Q: Hey Meredith,
I am a long time reader but first time submitter.
I recently met an unbelievable girl. The natural chemistry is something special, we share a great sense of humor and many shared interests, and I find myself inventing ways to make her smile every day. She does the same for me. We are both divorced 30-somethings who have dated a bunch since our respective divorces. The catch is that while I care for her deeply, she is the heaviest girl I have dated by a fair margin. She is extremely pretty, but doesn't take care of her body much at all, despite mentioning here and there that she'd like to lose some weight. Part of the reason is that she has kids, so with all of the demands on the shoulders of a single mom, the gym is hardly a top priority. But every other weekend the kids are with their dad. Aside from exercise, she has also demonstrated a poor diet as she chooses pizza and nachos over more moderate choices when we go out. This is a little hard for me because while I am no gym rat, I work hard on my fitness and diet and take pride in my appearance. She does take pride in all other respects ... she dresses nice and looks great when we go out, except for the extra weight she carries.
I don't need to be with a size 2 or anything. It is actually less about the size and more about the attitude. For example, I find myself more attracted to the size 10 busting her butt at the gym than the inactive size 2 who eats chocolate all day because her metabolism allows her to do so without consequence. It is less about the result, and more about the attitude for me. And right now, it is a turn off.
Sometimes I feel guilty and stupid because everything else about this girl is amazing. The physical attraction just isn't quite there, but it could be. And that is the torturous part. Am I wrong to want a girl who makes me weak in the knees at the very sight of her? She is really pretty, and I think if she slimmed down via a more sensible diet and reasonable amount of exercise, my knees would be giving out regularly. I really want to find her as physically attractive as I find the rest of her, but right now it isn't happening. At this point I should note that I am not a rookie when it comes to dealing with women and image issues ... my ex had an eating disorder and struggled with related depression for years.
So how do I even begin to approach this subject without a) hurting her feelings, b) creating a body image issue that she currently doesn't have? This girl is pretty thick skinned, but after experiencing what my ex went through, I may be a little hypersensitive to subjecting her to what my ex endured. I couldn't forgive myself if I was responsible for bringing that into someone's life ... it is truly horrible. But at the same time, there could be something special here if I could just get past this hurdle. Is it worth it to address it? If so, how do I do it? Or am I being Shallow Hal?
– Wishing For Weak Knees, Massachusetts
A: You're not Shallow Hal. You're just ... Honest Hal. Shallow Hal wouldn't even approach this woman. You're wishing and hoping that you'll suddenly be attracted to her. You're feeling guilty about a pretty honest, natural thing.
You're also not wrong for wanting to feel weak in the knees at the sight of your significant other. Usually, the more we get to know and adore someone's personality, the more their physical flaws become things that make them unique. A big gut starts to look like the perfect place to rest one's head. A limp becomes a swagger.
For that reason, I think you should give this some time. You said you met her recently, which means you haven't had much context. You haven't seen her running around with her kids for two hours before she has that plate of nachos with you.
If her lifestyle is still a turn-off after you've seen more, you can tell her that you fear your health priorities just don't match up. Because at that point, they don't. If you're constantly wishing that you could change the person you're with, it just doesn't work.
But for now, see if she grows on you.
Readers? Should he tell her that her weight is an issue for him? Is it unfair to expect a single mom to order salad after a long day? What’s going on here? Work it out.
– Meredith
Is this a transitional relationship?
I liked yesterday's discussion. Thanks for that.
Q: Hi everyone. I'm a longtime lurker, infrequent commenter, and have found myself with a question I'm unable to answer, so I figured it was time to put it out there to those with more experience. I'm in my early 40s and newly divorced after a 21-year marriage. I was shy and socially awkward in high school and college, and my ex-husband was really my only relationship, so I have a lot to learn.
After so long with one partner, I had decided that I was not going to date for a while, instead taking the time to figure out who I am "uncoupled," and what I want for myself (and my child) as I move forward through all this. However, in April I met someone through a friend of a friend and he and I started talking. Neither one of us was looking for anything from the other, especially since we live about an hour apart, but we found ourselves having a lot in common. We went from talking online every few days to phone calls to dating, in what has felt like a very natural progression.
So I guess my question is this: I've often read and heard that the transitional relationship is doomed. Is that always true? In spite of trying to go slowly and carefully, I'm really finding myself falling for this man. We enjoy each other's company, we're learning a lot from each other, and the um ... pajama parties ... are incredible. Because we came into this as friends first, we are really honest with each other, and he's not pushing me to go any faster than I am comfortable.
Am I worrying over nothing? Should I just shut up and enjoy this whatever-it-is and stop thinking about where it might lead? Why does it rattle me so much that we had our picture taken together this weekend? (Okay, so I guess I have more than just one question, but that one I asked first is the big one.)
– Nervous Nellie, Providence
A: That last question made me giggle, NN. Pictures mean there's evidence. Pictures mean that there will be something to stare at or burn if it doesn't work out. Pictures mean it's a thing.
As for the rest of your angst, I blame self-help books, television, catch phrases, etc. You probably heard a lot of silly, trendy dating terms and proclamations during your marriage, statements about men being from Mars, guys just not being into various women, friends with benefits, and rebound/transitional relationships.
Forget everything you heard. As it turns out, all relationships are different. We’re all from the same planet. Everyone is rebounding from something in life. Actions and words are both pretty important. And while timing is quite important, it isn't everything.
I don't know what you've got going on with this guy -- I can't define it for you -- but I do know that it sounds good and quite picture-worthy. And that's probably why you're freaking out. You suddenly have something to lose. That's sort of cool, right?
I know it's scary, but enjoy. What else can you do?
Readers? Can you help her with the concept of transitional relationships? Am I right that all relationships start as transitional relationships? Why did she freak about the picture? Is it bad that she didn't get her "uncoupled" time? Is this just fear of failure? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm looking for an honest woman
It's all in the delivery ...
Q: Mere, here is a question that I struggle with as a man. I have just recently learned that women friends lie to each other regularly and withhold feelings from one another if they feel that the other might be upset by their own feelings, truth, or opinion. They think that it is loving to save them from their own negative feelings. It is apparently an exception that one might be honest with the other and share any truth about feelings that they have with the other if they perceive that the other might get upset. Men value honesty, clarity, and directness in their friendships.
In the past couple of relationships I've had, women seemingly wanted to be treated in the same manner they would by their friends. For example, my last relationship ended because my girlfriend had fear about paying a bill. After the crisis passed a couple weeks later, I told her that I was concerned about her deteriorating financial situation (partially reflecting her own fear back to her) and asked her about what priorities she had in her life. Because I was aware of her situation, I had been paying for the vast majority of dating expenses and helped her with other tasks so that she wouldn't be further financially burdened. She blamed me for causing her to go into a deep sense of fear and told me that I shouldn't have expressed my feelings or concern. When I told her that I wouldn't accept blame for her feelings, she basically told me that I needed to change. I've always put what is best for the relationship first. Obviously, allowing her to control me would be unhealthy for our relationship and for me. Sadly that happened in my previous marriage of over 20 years.
I believe that you can only have an authentic and intimate relationship if non-harmful self-expression is encouraged. Non-harmful self-disclosure might be something like "I feel sad about ...," "I feel worried about ...," without any criticism or blame. Since a healthy relationship was not modeled for me by my parents, I am following what relationship experts consistently advise couples to have a loving, healthy, and intimate relationship.
I don't want to dwell in the past. I am ready to move on. So now as I begin dating again, what qualities do you think I should look for in a woman that would suggest that they can take responsibility for their feelings and invite their partner to be authentic, vulnerable, and intimate? Or is that impossible and you can only tell once the power struggle in a relationship commences six-nine months down the road?
– Looking for a Self-Responsible Woman, Cambridge
A: LDASRW, we're going to have to take a big time-out here.
All women are not created equal. Some women are afraid of honesty. Some women are so honest they'll make you cry. Same goes for men. Please, please, please do not generalize when it comes to gender. And please, please, please do not make decisions about "what women do" based on one ex-wife and an ex-girlfriend who's embarrassed about debt. Really.
Honesty is all about intent and delivery. You're right -- relationship experts love open communication, but they also love empathy. "I'm concerned you don't pay bills. Really, what's up with your priorities?" sounds different than, "You seem stressed about your finances. I'm sort of good at managing money. Can I sit down, as your friend, and work through it with you?" And yes, you're allowed to add, "I'm asking, partly because if I keep paying for everything, I'll be skipping bills, too. Can we have one of those awkward talks about cash flow?" (Said with a sheepish grin on your face, not a look of judgment.)
It's not about lying. It's about presenting information so that the truth doesn't obscure itself by clouding the recipient's brain with more anxiety.
My advice is to look for someone you really respect -- someone you want to befriend, not just date. In fact, I recommend seeking out some women friends (this will help you stop generalizing) and perhaps one of them will turn into something more. I think it'd be great for you to date someone you already know well.
If you already have some close female friends, ask them what they think is going on. Something tells me you'll be startled by their honesty.
Readers? What happens when we generalize? Are his generalizations accurate at all? Could this be his delivery? Is this about his ex-wife? Should he start by finding more female friends? How should he do that? Do I look fat in this dress? Be honest.
– Meredith
He's punishing me
Q: Dear Meredith,
I would truly appreciate your advice and the advice of your faithful followers.
My boyfriend and I get into pretty big arguments 1-2 times a week. He will say something touchy, and I'll overreact, or vice versa. We have been dating off and on for two years. We have truly broken up twice, both of which were on my terms. The first time was because of a certain way that he was acting that I found inexcusable (and he would admit that it was inexcusable as well). But it was nothing that couldn't be worked through and forgiven. The second break-up was caused by my general unhappiness and feeling overwhelmed. I panicked and tried to squeeze him out of my life. I later regretted it, apologized, admitted my shortcomings and asked for his forgiveness. To my credit, I have completely changed for the better. I really have committed myself to him, I am more affectionate, and I have done things to prove myself. I have admitted all of this to him and have accepted the blame for the second go around. I should also mention that we have been back together for three-ish months, and have always been in a long-distance relationship. I am in my late 20s and he is in his late 30s. He usually makes me happy and makes me laugh. I do love him.
Because of our past, does he have the green light to be a jerk intentionally? Does he reserve the right to say hurtful things to me as a way to get back at me for my shortcomings in the past? Sometimes I even wonder if he hates me. He sarcastically refers to me as a martyr. I can't count on both hands the number of times that he was told me that I do everything for myself and that it's "all about me." I know that I would never date anyone that I felt that way about. And he has told me these things on more than one occasion, so it is more than a simple slip of the tongue during a fight.
I am not perfect and I know sometimes I upset him, but I do not do anything to provoke this type of hatred and misery.
I guess I just wonder if things will ever change -- is it possible to move on from a rocky past into a healthy, happy relationship? Or is this a period of time that I just need to endure because I kind of have it coming to me? I am so exhausted from the fighting and from his "you're going to break up with me again, it's what you do" comments. He is the one who is miserable, and I haven't done or said anything to make him believe that I would do that to him again. It's quite the opposite.
Please help.
– Misery in Massachusetts
A: You're right, MIM, he’s not supposed to punish you. He either accepts that you've grown and allows for a do-over, or he admits that he can't forgive the past and you both move on. You were able to forgive him after his "inexcusable" behavior. You didn't punish him, right? He isn't returning the favor.
Based on what you've told us, it doesn't sound good. He makes you feel bad. You fight twice a week. You said that you've "truly" broken up twice, which leads me to believe that there have been a number of other almost-break-ups.
I do think that distance is part of the problem. You go from not seeing each other at all to being together for two straight days. That's a lot of pressure, especially when things are turbulent.
My advice is to make a list of reasons why you've stayed with him. Include specific memories. "That time we went to the movies and stayed up all night, that time we made dinner from scratch, that time he introduced me to his family … ." Then show him the list. Tell him the list must grow. List-worthy interaction should be most of your relationship. He either helps you with the list or it's time to move on. You're done with the punishing and the second-guessing. If the weekly arguments continue, that's it. That’s your answer.
If your happy list isn't very long and you know for a fact that it's trumped by a much longer list of negatives, don't even bother showing it to him. Just let it be the evidence that you need to try something new. Take what you've learned from this relationship and use it somewhere else.
Readers? Is the list even necessary? How long are we allowed to punish a partner after they've wronged us? Is distance the issue? Is age the issue? Discuss.
– Meredith
His friends hate me
I think I have an idea for a very good Love Letters event. Details to come.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I've been dating my boyfriend for over a year. We are head over heels in love, and also best friends. We never get sick of each other and rarely fight. However when we do fight it is always revolving around the same issue -- his friends.
His friends get mad at him if they ask him to hang out and we already have plans. Even if they just saw him the day before, they still get upset that he has plans with me.
I've gone to many parties and events with this crowd of people. It doesn't help that they aren't the friendliest people in the world either. They seem to welcome other friends' significant others with open arms, but no one will even talk to me for more than just a few minutes, let alone try and become actual friends. I have made numerous efforts to try and involve myself and make conversation. This has been going on for over a year and I still don't feel welcome.
Now I'm at the point too where I don't feel comfortable hanging out with them. So when he does hang out with them, it always is without me. I don't ever want him to think that he has to choose between his friends and me.
It's just that the issue of his friends will keep coming up. They give him a hard time when we are together, and they somehow feel betrayed. Yet I also spend a lot of time beating myself up to why his friends don't accept me, and am constantly asking him, if these are his "best friends" why wouldn't they try to make me feel welcome?
Do I try to keep making an effort with his friends? When does it come to the point where it's not worth it? He is feeling pressure from both sides and I know it's hard for him because he doesn't want to ruin his friendships or our relationship.
I would love to hear your advice. I'd hate for our relationship to have this constant strain.
– Outsider of the In Crowd, Boston
A: Weird. I feel like I'm missing something, OFTIC. Did these people adore your boyfriend's ex? Did you hit somebody's cat with your car? Has your boyfriend given you any information about why these folks embrace others but give you the cold shoulder?
My advice is to bring one of your own friends to a group event. Pick your most perceptive, emotionally intelligent, and winning friend (we all have one, the designated charmer), and bring her to the party. Introduce her to your boyfriend's friends. See how they behave in front of a nice stranger who is on your side. When it's over, ask your friend what she thought of the scene. A more objective third party should notice things that you don't. Your friend will also help you decide if you're being oversensitive, if these people are truly awful, and whether your boyfriend is doing what he can to include you in the group.
My other advice is to ask your boyfriend (again) whether there's something you're missing. Does he have any advice about how to better relate to his friends? Does he have theories about why this has been so difficult? Or does he deny the whole thing?
I don't know how old these people are, but age plays a part in this. These people should be behaving themselves, even if they're in their early 20s -- but they might not be used to friends pairing off with outsiders. You say that you have become your boyfriend's best friend, which means his old friends no longer are. That could be causing their negative feelings about you. Maybe his old friends feel excluded. Maybe you represent their fear of a less-social future. That would make sense.
Bring a friend. Talk to your boyfriend. Continue to take the high road by giving him space with his pals, and by trying to be nice whenever you do show up.
And keep showing up. That sends a message that you aren't going anywhere and that you'd just like to be accepted.
Readers? Am I right about bringing a friend? What can she do to make them like her? Should she have to do anything? Should she talk to the friends about their problem with her? What's the boyfriend's role in this? Discuss.
– Meredith
He's horrible with money
Lots of money letters lately.
This guy's other woman: Sallie Mae.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I have recently moved in with my boyfriend, "Dan." We are both in our mid-20s and I would say our relationship is good overall. I have loved Dan a long time, and I know he feels the same about me. Lately, however, I have become increasingly stressed about one thing: his finances.
Let me start by saying that in terms of joint bills (rent, utilities, etc.) Dan contributes 50 percent and has never asked to borrow money from me. He was unemployed for a while, but has had a job for about a year now and works very hard. My concern is that he's lackadaisical about his personal financial situation -- things like debt, student loan payments, and credit rating. While I always knew he was more "relaxed" about these things than I am, I became more aware of the situation when we applied for our apartment. He mentioned that his credit score is bad. We still got the apartment, but since then I have become more stressed by the issue.
Dan tells me that he doesn't exactly know how much debt from multiple student loan lenders he has, or even what his monthly payments are. He tries to pay when he can, but doesn't seem to make it a priority. I know that he is really behind on payments. While I have my share of loan debt as well, I can't imagine having this kind of attitude about it. Dan says he thinks collectors are calling him, but that he avoids ever listening to their messages. I wish he would at least take control. I've tried explaining to him how his bad credit score could impact the future, but lately it only makes him mad. He says it is his problem to sort out, not mine. Even when he did his taxes he said he "never got his tax return," which confuses me, especially if he never followed up. Furthermore, while he does help pay our joint bills, I have to do all the basic bill management.
Dan and I have talked openly about how differently we relate to money. As the daughter of a small business owner, I have always prided myself on being excellent at managing my money. I worked hard to help put myself through school, and was able to accumulate a good amount of savings in the years after graduation. This kind of financial security and independence is important to me. Dan, on the other hand, came from a very different background, was pretty poor growing up, and acknowledges that his family has never really known or taught him how to handle money. He will give $20 to homeless people, which I want to consider a generous act, but instead end up feeling stressed that he is giving money away instead of sorting out his own problems. He will go out for dinners with coworkers and friends that I feel he probably can't afford while I am trying to save every penny.
I have told Dan that the reason I want to help him get his finances in order is because it could impact both of our futures if we want to someday own a home (which is important to me). I've suggested maybe we find a third party, like a financial adviser who could help him. He is not open to these things, says he will sort it out, but then continues to do nothing.
So, my basic question: as a live-in girlfriend, how involved should I be? Should I continue to ask him to deal with his financial problems or just accept the fact that it truly is his problem? Is his attitude a deal-breaker? Are we just too different?
– For love or money, Boston
A: FLOM, Dan is scared to find out how much he owes. I don't blame him. I'm scared for Dan.
And yes, the tax thing is a bit weird. Sounds like he never filed his taxes, but that's just a guess.
His financial problems don't make this a deal-breaker. Frankly, in most working partnerships/marriages, one person takes on the responsibility of money management. And I know of many relationships where one partner has helped the other get out of debt simply by getting them on a schedule. And he's in his 20s. Yes, that's relevant. He hasn't learned how to do this yet, but he's not hopeless.
The question is -- will he ever let you help?
The trick is to let Dan know that you're not going to judge him or make him feel small if he reveals his ugly numbers. Tell him that you have debt, too, and that there are aspects of your life that parallel his money disorganization. Maybe you're bad about car repairs or calling relatives. Maybe his social skills are better. In partnerships, we have to respect our significant other's skills. You're good with money. He brings other talents to the table.
It's only a deal-breaker if he continues to refuse to let you help. But my guess is that if you tell him -- while smiling -- that sitting down with his bills (and a tub of ice cream and maybe two glasses of wine) is going to be a friendly and loving process, and that it won't be about disciplining him, I think he'll give in.
I like that Dan is self-aware about his inability to manage anything financial. At least he's not pretending to be good at it. And I think it's incredibly important that he has never asked for money, that he's not someone who's looking to burden you or freeload. But Dan does have to prove that he can get personal. Financial intimacy is pretty big. In Dan's case, financial intimacy is like .... running around naked in the daylight after weeks of not washing or shaving.
But he's not the only one who'll be running around naked in this relationship. Remind him that eventually, you will need his skills to help straighten out something embarrassing in your life. You'll want to be able to lean on him for that. How can you be vulnerable about your weaknesses when he won't show you his?
See if he responds to that approach. If he doesn't, yes, you're allowed to worry. And remember -- even if he learns how to pay bills, he's never going to adopt your spending habits. You can ask him to be responsible, but you can't ask him to do everything you want him to do with his wallet.
Everyone? I've always thought that financial messes make fine partners as long as they give up control and let their significant others help them. Am I right? Is it relevant that Dan contributes 50 percent or is the letter writer setting herself up for a life of debt? At what point should partners reveal their numbers? Thoughts on how to talk about this? Discuss.
– Meredith
I wouldn't sleep over
Handle this one with kid gloves, please. Seems necessary.
Q: I am a 31-year-old who is very inexperienced and my social life is non-existent. I came to live in the United States five years ago and I had to start all over again. I was a student back home but I had not completed the course of study I was taking at a college because everything was a hardship there. I had a chance to leave my birth country, so I took it without hesitation.
Growing up I kept to myself. I love to read -- especially romance novels -- and I know the difference between reality and fiction. Living in the US has given me an opportunity to change my life, at least on a professional level. I work a simple job during the day and I am back in college pursuing a program in health. At my day job there is a man who is a regular customer. He has been given me these inviting looks for quite some time now and I am deeply attracted to him. I can feel the tension between us, and even other people notice the attraction. He had never asked me out, so I said to myself, "Maybe he thinks I have a boyfriend." So I called him to give him my phone number. We spoke on the phone as if we were old friends and for a few weeks we kept texting each other. He recently bought a condo, and he wanted to take me there, so I agreed to go.
Two days before the meeting, I texted him to inquire about the sleeping arrangements, and he pretended not to understand the question, so I made myself clear and I told him that I was not ready for intimacy on the first night and I needed to know him better before we moved ahead. He apologized and told me that we should forget the whole thing altogether. We do not text anymore. I see him most everyday at work and instinctively I know he is still interested in me. My head tells me to forget about him but, I am still attracted to him.
Am I a fool to hope that something good will come out of this dilemma?
– Rebbeca23, Hyde Park
A: You're not a fool for hoping -- you're just a romantic.
I am a little confused about why you'd be sleeping over on the first date. Did you make that assumption? Is his condo very far away?
Assuming the sleepover request came from him, this guy isn't worth your time. I don't know if he's secretly married, has a one-track mind, or is simply just a jerk. What I do know is that if his intentions had been pure, if he had really wanted to get to know you and pursue a relationship with you, he would have asked for a meal or a movie. He would have respected the fact that you were uncomfortable touring his condo and sleeping over on a first date. He probably would have called you and asked you out long before texting you.
You're inexperienced and new to this country, but let me tell you how it is over here. When someone likes you, they respect your boundaries. When someone wants to date you, they ask to spend time with you. When someone is the real deal, they don't confuse you and then disappear. And really, even if the sleepover assumption came from you, you'd think he'd say, "Of course you don't have to stay over! Whatever makes you comfortable." But he didn't. I'm just happy that you were clear about your concerns.
Keep reaching out, keep being social, keep approaching the guys who catch your eye -- and keep trusting your gut.
This guy was just a test. There will be more.
Readers? How can she stop hoping? Any words of wisdom for the inexperienced? What was this guy's deal? Discuss.
– Meredith
We've got money problems
We need a money category. I'm going to make it happen.
Q: Hi Meredith,
My boyfriend and I have been together for the past two years and have recently started the process of looking at/discussing engagement rings. About three months ago he decided to completely change jobs. The job requires him to take classes for six months.
Right in the midst of him changing jobs also came another big change. We moved. To a much bigger, nicer (and shall I venture to say marriage and child-friendly) apartment. He was seemingly hesitant about doing this originally, as he would be in these classes for awhile and making literally half of the pay of what he will normally get paid. Because of this salary drop, I have now volunteered to take over all the bills. I have gone from having lots of extra spending money to very little spending money.
The money arguments have been popping up more frequently. Who is paying for this, who is paying for that ... all the while he is making "digs" that the only reason we are in such a more expensive home is because of me (which is partially true, but also he signed the papers as well, and no one forced his hand to hold the pen). He has now become insistent that we move (again) but this time to a cheaper place.
I think this is ridiculous because when he finally stops training and starts to work full time he will most likely double his salary and then I think his worries/fears will start to subside. I also believe he is secretly buying me a ring and the cost of that is stressing him out (though he won't express that to me outright, as he is trying keep it a secret).
What am I to do? Should I just ride this grumpy-over-money wave of his until he starts making more money? Should I give in to him wanting to move all over again to somewhere cheaper? Should I be the one to pick up a second job in the meantime until his money situation evens out a bit? Can I even mention the engagement ring stressing him out, or should I keep quite and just ride this wave until the training ends?
– Money and Love, Massachusetts
A: I'd mention the ring, MAL. He doesn't have to disclose anything about his romantic plans -- you just want him to know that he shouldn't feel pressured to spend money he doesn't have right now. The ring can wait. You're not expecting anything during this stressful time besides his love ... and the nicer apartment, of course.
I have to wonder whether his anxiety also has something to do with loss of control. You've taken over bills. You're the breadwinner all of a sudden. It's difficult to go from contributor to dependent.
All you can do is assure him that you're comfortable taking on the burden of this move knowing that at some point, he'll make it up to you. Yes, this move could have waited, but you're already in the new place. It's expensive to keep moving. You are where you are.
School is stressful. Change is stressful. The aforementioned loss of control is stressful. And yes, rings are stressful. It seems like that's the thing that can wait. Of course, if you do expect him to contribute more while he's in school and you want that ring now instead of later, hear him out about his alternative plans for housing. You can't have it all.
The most important thing is that you communicate openly and calmly about all of it. It's good practice for the future because this won't be your last disagreement about money.
Readers? Should they move again? Is he being passive-aggressive? Should she tell him to scrap the ring plans until he has a real job? Should she mention the ring at all? Discuss.
– Meredith
He blew it on my birthday
Some business:
Boston.com is looking for summer love stories.
Also, we chat at 1.
Today's letter writer got less for her birthday than this woman.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I would really appreciate some insight. This past Wednesday was my birthday. My boyfriend, whom I have been dating for a little over seven months, is very much the forgetful kind. As such, on Monday I began hinting that this week might be something special. When he was clearly not getting the hints, I went ahead and told him that my birthday was on Wednesday and that I was slightly disappointed that he had no idea, being that we have been dating for over half a year. He got very upset and after a few "I don't deserve you" comments I told him it was fine, at least now he knows, and we put it to rest. Or so I thought.
Fast forward to Wednesday and he doesn’t even say Happy Birthday to me. Not a card, call, or text. A bit angry, I stopped by his house to confront him about completely ignoring my birthday. He was very upset by my confrontation and told me that he had been thinking about what to do the entire day before, but felt like anything he did could never be enough to make up for initially forgetting so, for fear of insulting me by doing too little, he did nothing at all. I told him I was disappointed, but the important part is that he thought about it and I appreciate how much he cares.
I was feeling very mature and completely fine with this decision until my female friends start asking what my loving boyfriend did for my special day. After a few days of defending his "I did nothing" approach, I’m beginning to wonder if I shouldn’t be defending him at all.
So, I guess I’m wondering, is this a deal breaker? He’s a very nice guy, sweet, says all the right things, has a good sense of humor, etc. But I have to wonder, am I selling myself seriously short by sticking around?
– A Card Would Have Been Nice, Somerville
A:
1. Hints are stupid. If you want to celebrate your birthday, you have to say, "My birthday's next week. I'd love to do something." And this isn't a gender thing. The "don't hint" rule applies to all. Hinting is like assuming someone can read tone in an e-mail. It's just not something you can count on.
2. Some people suffer from what my brilliant friend Jenn calls vacation/holiday impotence. When given a challenge (as in, "It’s my birthday -- surprise me!," or "Plan a romantic vacation for us!,") these people think so hard about what they're supposed to do that they wind up doing nothing. They just can't deal. It sounds like your guy has that problem.
3. Everything that happens during the first year of a relationship sets a precedent. If you've been dating for less than a year, there's no tradition for him to follow. I think he lashed out when you stopped by because he felt set up to fail. He didn't know what to do with those hints. There was no tradition, and he's someone who needs guidance.
You're right -- he was lame. And he's forgetful. And he has holiday impotence. But a birthday is one day. If he's been pretty great every other day, that's what counts. If he hasn't, well, that's something to think about.
Next time, don't play mind games. Don't be passive-aggressive. You have a boyfriend who needs you to spell it out for him. There are worse things. Be clear. Tell him you're sorry you freaked him out -- and tell him if he'd like, you'll help him with a do-over.
Readers? Am I blaming the victim here? Was she wrong to hint? Was he wrong to get angry about his failure? Discuss.
– Meredith
Can't stop obsessing about it
Book reviews soon. I promise.
Q: Oh, Meredith. I am spinning myself in circles
I am a big over-thinker who has dated a wonderful and infuriating guy for two years. I'm 23, working in Midwestern city. He's 21 and still in college, where we met. We have both been in long-term relationships before. Perhaps our age renders all this moot. But please bear with me and pretend I'm an adult.
Somehow, we have kept the long-distance going for a year with visits during the school year and Skype during summers when he leaves the country. We have some big problems though. I feel like I have spent way too much of our relationship freaking out about it, threatening to break up with him and backpedaling.
I'm at a fork in the road. I'm likely going to get laid off, which could be an opportunity to start again. I need to either finally break it off and deal with the fallout -- however much I may regret it -- or, I need to learn to love him without the constant vacillations. Please help me find a fresh way to look at this! Here's the long-winded deal.
I can think of so many logical reasons why we should not be together: We live two hours from each other (by plane); we are both incredibly young; he cheated on me six months in and it was so devastating that we are still rebuilding trust; the grilled cheese is good now but was troubled when we were in the same city, and I wanted more than him.
More worrisome: He's a very wealthy ex-pat, the son of a banker, and I'm a middle class American public school kid, the daughter of ex-hippies. He aspires to be an investment banker or the founder of a company. I want to dedicate my life to shedding light on injustice. He wants to maintain the lifestyle he grew up with. I think it's way too opulent. He wants to send his future kids to boarding school. I don't know if I could deal with that.
We do have some warm and fuzzy things going on. We laugh together. We love each other. We support each other. We both want to spend our careers traveling the world. We always have things to talk about, even if we fight about politics. I believe that despite his past actions (the infidelity), he is taking his mistakes seriously and learning from them. We've talked about every issue I've raised here. He wants me in his life and is willing to figure the rest out as we go along.
I know this sounds nuts, but when he graduates, if we are still together, we will consider moving abroad together wherever he finds a job. (He has to leave the country. My profession can go anywhere.)
He's getting back to the U.S. soon. I suspect that after a weekend of cuddling and nice dinners and grilled cheeses I will forget all of this and recommit to staying with him. Until things unravel and the cycle repeats...this is where I need help.
Do opposites attract or is that crap? Is love all I need? Or am I setting myself up for a big disappointment down the road, when moving on will be harder?
Basically, am I insane? Or should I listen to myself?
– Can't afford therapy. Probs need it.
A: Yes, opposites can attract, and yes, they can stay together for the long haul, CATPNI. Your problem isn't the wealthy ex-pat vs. kid-of-ex-hippies thing -- it's the age/distance. He shouldn't have cheated, but he's not a criminal for being 21 and all over the place.
My advice is to cuddle, play, enjoy, visit, and maybe even move abroad -- but without all of the serious over-analysis. You're at a great place in life to run off with this guy without worrying about the consequences. Stop obsessing about what he did when your relationship was new. And stop thinking about his opulent lifestyle and boarding school for your unborn children. You can really only plan for the next year right now.
If you take the big rules and anxiety out of the relationship, you might actually have a shot with this guy. I'm not saying, "If you love someone set them free, ignore all flaws, and forgive all cheats." What I am saying is, "If you love someone, keep reasonable expectations." Repeat these sentences: "I hope that this cool-yet-infuriating guy and I wind up following through on our plans to see the world. And if we break-up on a flight over Nepal or before we even get on the plane, I’ll see the world myself. And it will be awesome." Spend the time before he graduates doing whatever you want to do. Move to a different city, get a job, don't get a job, travel -- go with your temporary gut.
You're not insane. It's just that when you're 21 and 23 and living in different cities, most promises wind up being empty. All you really know is that for now, you want to keep seeing him. Get off the hamster wheel of crazy. It only goes in circles.
Readers? Should they break up while things are so ... temporary? Is this about opposites attracting? Is the boarding school/lifestyle stuff relevant right now? And -- should she be getting on a plane with this guy? Discuss.
– Meredith
We have different drives
It always comes back to food metaphors with us, even when it shouldn't.
Q: Meredith,
Love your column. I am an avid reader and part time poster. My problem is not a "do I stay or go" problem, but an appeal to the masses for advice on how to either fix it or learn to live with it.
A little background ... I'm about 40, female, with children from a previous relationship. My partner is about my age. We are getting married in a few months. He is, hands down, the most awesome man I have ever known. He is affectionate, loving, kind, easy-going, close to his mother, sexy, funny, etc. I never doubt that he loves me. I trust him completely (it's been a long time since I've been able to say that!). He tells me he loves me all the time, is respectful, a great step-dad-to-be, and my kids absolutely adore him. I honestly believe I have the best relationship of anyone I know.
So, what is the issue, right? Intimacy is RARE in our house -- especially intimacy that's centered on me. In the beginning it was great, but a few months after we started dating, it dwindled to weekends. Now it's become basically scheduled maintenance once a week. He has said he’s not a fan of intimacy at night, so I started setting my alarm. We ended up cuddling and chatting. For a while he said it was stress at work. That should be resolved by now because summers are easier for him. Finally we had a serious talk about it, and he said he was perfectly happy with intimacy once a week.
You probably noticed I specified that intimacy is rare when it's about me. He's very appreciative for all of the "attention" I shower on him -- and I am not the type to stop serving dishes just because I’m not getting fed in return. That seems petty and passive-aggressive, and it’s not the tone I want to set for our relationship.
When we do manage it, the intimacy is wonderful. When he comes to the table, he brings a five-star meal. Of course, I'm starving a few days later because it was really delicious, and I'm a fan of fine foods. He tells me he's attracted to me. He makes comments that let me know he finds me appealing. I'm in pretty decent shape -- a big gym person. He reassures me that he understands that he doesn't participate enough, and stresses that it’s not a reflection of his desire for me.
So, what do I do with this? It's not a deal-breaker. I'm old enough, and experienced enough to know that guys like him don't come around that often, especially willing to take on a single mom. But the prospect of being intimate three times a month for the next 40 years, ESPECIALLY when I know I have a master chef lying right next to me, is beyond frustrating.
– AandD, South of Boston
A: This is a big, loaded problem, AandD, but in some ways it's like any other relationship problem because the answer is compromise. On both sides. He can step up his game and you can manage your expectations. I would have the talk again. This time, make it less about what he lacks and more about how you can meet in the middle.
I understand that he's content with the schedule, but both of you have to be content for this to work. And really, it's not like you're asking him to do the dishes more often. There's something in it for him, too.
With some of these lack-of-intimacy letters, I suspect physical problems or depression. If he's participating once a week, I doubt that's the issue. Sounds more like laziness, stress, and his natural drive. Again, compromise. You have to respect his drive. Perhaps six times a month is all you're going to get. That's not so bad if he can make those six times all about you.
I'd also ask him how you can help get his mind in the right place to participate. Morning vs. evening is just one thing. But … a weekend away? Dinner out? Kids out of the house for a night?
Be sensitive. This is a problem that causes defensiveness and hurt feelings. You need to know that you can't expect everything you want. When you have your next conversation about this, maybe ask him what he'd like more of -- TV time? Cuddling? Alone time for him? See what's missing and where compromises can be made. That's more productive than, "I need more. Step up your game." Come up with a real strategy so it's not just a complaint.
And remind him that this is important. Sex and money. This is big stuff.
Readers? How do you deal with someone who says, "I’m fine with once a week." Is it wrong that he hasn’t tried to compromise already? Is she expecting too much? Discuss.
– Meredith
Should I marry him?
Most of the book reviews are in. Good job. Will post/pick a winner soon.
Q: Dear Meredith,
A year ago I met an intelligent, kindhearted, affectionate man who is also very cute and has a great career. He is incredibly good to me and tells me every day that he is in love with me. I am fairly certain that he intends to propose in the next few weeks and I’m feeling very panicky about it.
I know I’m incredibly fortunate and I should be ecstatic about the idea of spending my life with a man who will certainly be an excellent husband and father. However, some small part of me thinks that if I accept, I will be settling because I’m in my mid-30s and want to have a family of my own someday soon.
I do love him, but not in a madly passionate sort of way. We are good friends, we each enjoy the other's company, and we have similar values and temperaments. My family loves him and his family likes me very much too. We have frequent pajama parties that range from pleasant to very nice (but never mind-blowing). In short, I’m sure we could live together contently for decades to come, but do I want to settle for content?
My older relatives and married friends tell me that the mad passionate sort of love is just lust and it fades after a few years. They feel it is much better to settle down with a good person who I respect and admire. A good friend of mine, who is Indian and in a happy arranged marriage, tells me that my boyfriend and I have the perfect foundation for a good marriage. In fact, she believes people should be wary of making a commitment to someone who they are “madly in love with” because that sort of passion fades with time, leaving little common ground on which to base a partnership. My younger unmarried friends tell me to hold out for that mad passionate love.
I would love to hear your thoughts and the thoughts of your readers, particularly the long married ones.
– Cold Feet or Just Wary of Settling?, Boston
A: CFOJWOS, you're going to get a lot of stories today from people who married good/blah partners and wish they hadn't. You'll also probably hear from folks who married amazing, passionate partners and wound up getting their hearts broken. Then you'll hear from the people who learned that "settling for content" turned out to be the kind of love they always wanted. Everyone's story is different. No one knows the answer to your question.
Except for me, of course. And my answer is: stop this man from proposing. Tell him that you get the sense that he's about to take that big next step -- which is lovely -- but at the moment, you have no desire to go there with him. You're just not ready.
I'm not saying you should spend years wasting your/his time delaying a proposal, but you need to be able to evaluate this relationship without a big, romantic question hanging over your head.
I'll also say that our choices about partners are usually about timing and what's going on in our own heads. What I mean is, if you had met Mr. Nice Guy (your boyfriend), after a wild, passionate romance that blew up in your face, you might be twice as passionate about Mr. Nice Guy -- because he'd offer all that you lacked in your previous relationship.
We never get to know what else is out there, and choosing a mate is always a risk. Even if we start out confident, we might have doubts later on in a relationship. All you know is that right now, you have fears. Fear of missing out. Fear of settling. Fear of losing him. If you can spend some time considering those fears without thinking about marriage, you might be able to figure out which fear is most important to you.
Sometimes you have to let an itch get really, really itchy before you feel confident about scratching it. Make sense?
Readers? Could this go on indefinitely without a proposal or will the desire to stay or go become more obvious over time? Will you share your stories for her benefit? And should she use your stories to make any decisions about her own relationship? Discuss.
– Meredith
She cheated while we were on a break
I'm sad to say that I remember a "Friends" episode about this. Sort of.
Q: I met my girlfriend a few years ago as I was finishing up school in the summer, right before I left for grad school here in Boston that fall. We had a strong connection, and even though we hadn't spent much time together, we both thought that a relationship would be worth trying, so when I left in the fall, we started a long-distance relationship (and it is true long distance -- not one of these two-hour drive things). We've had our ups and downs and many Skype dates, but we try to see each other about once a month and for holidays (my family lives near her). My outlook has been that if we can survive the distance, we can survive anything. When we see each other in person, we both feel the wait is worth it.
OK, now for a little disclaimer. I'm 25 and she's 21, and this is by far the most meaningful relationship either of us have ever had. I've felt a little guilty for being her boyfriend when she could be enjoying life as a college student and have a traditional, local boyfriend, but at the same time, I love her and think the distance is still worth it. She has sometimes been insecure about our relationship, and has emotionally invested more than is healthy at times, but I've always offered her support and encouraged her to be independent and spend time on her friendships as well.
This summer she went on a study abroad, and since her mom has always had a strong presence in her life while in college, this was her first time really feeling independent and free. She told me that this new found freedom and independence has made her want to take a break from us so she can live for herself and re-evaluate what she wants in life. She doesn't see an end to our distance without her having to sacrifice and move to Boston (she graduates at the end of 2011). She would have good career options for her here, but she doesn't want to feel forced to move here where she doesn't have friends and family. She called for a break, and when I asked if there was a guy in the picture, she admitted there was someone she was interested in, but he wasn't the reason for the break.
I've been having a hard time with this break since it started earlier this summer. I stayed in contact with her some, and have been pretty jealous about this guy despite her saying there was nothing there. I wanted to believe her, but I told her that if she kissed this guy, I don't know if I could ever really trust her again or forgive her. I've really wanted to just forgive her and move on; let it be water under the bridge. This whole break seems like a selfish exercise, and not very fair to me. It has never been mutual, but I've tried to make the most of my free time so I went on few dates and tried to see what's out there. I kissed a girl, but it was awful and I immediately regretted not avoiding it more. She has since told me that she did kiss the boy, and it was empty, but she lied and had denied it earlier. She says she wants to work things out, and knows what she wants now.
I'm deeply hurt that she kissed the one guy I was worried about, and the only person I asked her to avoid. It feels like the only difference between what she did and cheating is that she asked for time off. I feel as if I'm being treated like a fool. She took advantage of how I felt during this break to do what she wanted, didn't find anything better, and now expects me to take her back. We need to talk in person, and she's planning to come visit after she gets back, but I don't know what to do. On the one hand, I want us to work and rebuild what we have because I know how great we can be together. On the other, I am hurt, angry, and feel like I was treated like a floor mat. I'm aware that this is complicated as it being first love, us being young, and the distance being a factor, but what we had was really great, and if it comes back fully, I could imagine proposing to her in a year. I was willing to fully forgive her before I found out about the guy, but now I don't know. I'm curious what you and your readers think of this, and if you have suggestions on what to do. Can I learn to trust her again?
– I still don't understand breaks, Cambridge
A: ISDUB, here we go:
1. She took the break to kiss the boy. Sorry.
2. I'm glad she took the break to kiss the boy. She needed to -- and it says a great deal that she took a break first as opposed to just cheating. You may feel like a "floor mat," but she was honest about her feelings for someone else. Many 21-year-old girlfriends studying abroad wouldn't have bothered with disclosure.
3. "My outlook has been if we can survive the distance, we can survive anything." Not true. I don't know where you got that. I've known long-distance couples who imploded when they lived in the same city. I've also known couples who lied, cheated, and cried when they were on opposite sides of the country but wound up doing beautifully when they moved into the same apartment.
4. She wants you back because the new guy didn't work out. And because she misses you. That's fine. Her feelings are real. Just know that her need for independence and self-discovery didn't vanish over the summer. She's not old enough to know that but you are.
This is tough. You're young. She's younger. You're in very different places -- literally. You can keep her in your life, but please manage your expectations. If you set the bar too high, you'll both fail and hate each other. Try to see her as much as you can and expect that until 2012 -- or maybe 2012 ½ -- things are going to be far less stable than you want them to be. The rules will change. Feelings might get hurt.
If she's the woman you want in 2012.5 or maybe even 2013, that's great. But please, don't even think about a proposal right now. There's no rush. An engagement won't ensure that there won't be another break.
And know that this isn't about trust. It shouldn't be about her proving to you that she'll never do this again. This is about dating a 21-year-old who will live very far away for the next year. It is what it is. Give her (and yourself) some space to mess up -- that way, if you wind up together in 2011, you'll know it's real and not about obligation.
Readers? Is this about a kiss? Is this about trust? What does it mean that she wanted a break? Is she treating him like a "floor mat" or is she just trying to live without losing him? Should they even attempt to see each other over the next year? Do your thing.
– Meredith
She hangs out with her ex
I think it was Sally who recently pointed out that there are no letters in our "set-ups" category. If you have a set-up-related question, feel free to ask. It's a sad little category right now.
I think we also need a money category.
And maybe a "jealous-about-the-ex category" for letters like this one:
Q: Writing a bit on a whim here, but I'd be interested to hear what you or your readers have to say about this one. The story begins when I met someone I really liked earlier this year, let's call her Marge. When we met, Marge was dating someone else, but soon that ended and we began seeing each other. We've passed the "defining the relationship" conversation and have been exclusive for a few months now and are generally very happy. We spend a lot of time together, have had some great road trips and enjoy hanging out either alone or with our friends.
One negative thing that seems to come up from time to time is the ex, let's call him Jack. Marge and Jack had been friends for some time and had sort of an off-again (mostly), on-again (rarely) relationship with a close friendship in between the periods of dating. Even during the periods of friendship, he was very jealous - and only got worse during the brief periods they were dating. When Marge finally broke things off last year, Jack was very upset and even mistakenly berated one of Marge's other male friends at a social event, thinking he was the "new guy." Marge felt bad about causing Jack pain and tried to maintain the friendship, but eventually that became impossible and they cut off communication for a few months, which was hard for Marge because they shared a lot of mutual friends and the friendship is really important to her. Recently, they've been trying to re-commence the friendship, exercising together and occasionally getting lunch. At this point, Jack still has not been around any time I have been hanging out with their friends and would mysteriously disappear when I showed up at group outings.
Recently, Marge told me that Jack had invited her to attend a wedding with him ("as a friend") out of state. She mentioned that he really didn't want to go to the wedding alone, and he told her none of his other friends could make it. Not wanting to seem overly controlling, I only let Marge know I thought this was a bit weird, but I did not say I thought she shouldn't go (even though it made me very uncomfortable, I told her I had no rational reason why she shouldn't go). We both agreed that it would make the most sense for us to see how he acted when I was around, since that might give some indication about whether he intended to really be a friend or was just using this as a way to stay close to her. Well we all hung out at a party this weekend, and it was clear he was extremely uncomfortable around me. I am an approachable person and talked to everyone at the party, except for Jack. To me it seemed like he avoided engaging in any sort of conversation with me.
So now I am really uncomfortable. I am in disbelief that someone who appears to have these continuing issues with Marge would ask her to go to the wedding, and, to a lesser extent, I am upset that she'd agree to go with him. I am 100% certain that Marge would not cheat in any way and pretty sure he wouldn't try to make a move, but some part of me still just feels really uncomfortable with the situation, even though I can't rationally explain it. What should I do? Put my foot down and say it's a dealbreaker or suck it up and let them figure it out for themselves? Am I uncomfortable because I have issues with trust or because this is something inappropriate (i.e., going to a wedding with a recent ex)? To make it trickier, I still haven't told Marge I am uncomfortable and the wedding is soon. What should I do?
– Uncomfortable in Brookline
A: UIB, you don't have weird trust issues. She's in the wrong here.
You may be out of luck for the wedding depending on when it is. It's not fair to tell her a week or two before the event that you’d rather she not go. But when the wedding trip is over, it's time for a talk. You don't have to be the super cool boyfriend who shrugs when she's at the gym with an ex who still loves her. You do have to be honest boyfriend who says, "Just exactly what are you trying to do with this guy?"
Many letter writers say, "I trust my partner -- it’s the ex/friend/gym buddy I don’t trust." But that's not really true, is it? Your issue is with Marge, not Jack. And my issue is with Marge, not Jack. If Marge is really worried about Jack, she should set major boundaries with him so he can figure out that there's no future and get over her. And if Marge is worried about her relationship with you, she should go out of her way to make you (the new boyfriend) comfortable. Right now she's being bad to both of you (unintentionally, I hope).
When the wedding is over, sit her down and tell her that you’re not loving this -- because no normal person would love this. Ask her why she thinks this is good for Jack. And ask her what she wants her relationship with him to be in the future. If she really wants a true friendship with him, she shouldn't be going to weddings with him. She should be going out of her way to show him that she's just a friend.
If she can't cut her close ties to Jack, well, there are things to consider. But know that you're not in the wrong for having weird feelings about this. It's time to disclose them.
– Meredith
Should she be going to the wedding? Is Jack the problem? How should Marge be handling this? Discuss.
My friend's boyfriend is awful
New York is too hot. Homesick.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I've been struggling with this for awhile, and don't know what to do. I am a very positive person who likes most people, but for the past two years, my best friend has been dating a guy I can't stand.
While I recognize he's not a bad guy, I know my friend is selling herself short. She has always hated being single, and because our other close friends and I have been involved in serious relationships, I worry that she got involved with him simply to not be alone.
This guy is in his late 30s, but acts like he's 20. He is divorced, didn't go to college, and has not had a full-time job since he moved to Boston three years ago. While he's currently temping, I know he's turned down job offers because they required being "on call" one weekend a month, and he said he couldn't give up going out and drinking with his buddies.
My friend on the other hand is well-educated, has a successful career at a great company, and even bought a condo last year (that he is now moving into). He makes her happy, and I know that's what matters most, but I don't know how to be a good friend to her when such a major part of her life drives me crazy.
I have really tried to give him a chance, but no matter how hard I try, he makes my skin crawl. I would never tell my friend how much I dislike him, because I know it would hurt our friendship. But I hate being around him, and I even hate hearing about him.
Anyway, I'd love to hear any advice you or the Love Letters readers have!
– Bad Friend in Boston
A: BFIB, I wouldn't say that you're a bad friend, but you are projecting something big. You're taking this guy's flaws very personally, as if they mean something about your own life.
You say that your friend is happy -- and yes, that's what matters most. Your job as her friend is to listen to her and support her happiness. I'm sure there have been times when your choices have made her squirm. Don't forget that there are probably a number of qualities that her boyfriend brings to the table that you don't even know about.
Perhaps this is about wanting credit for finding someone who doesn't have these flaws -- or maybe you fear that because your friend has chosen a different kind of partner, she'll drift away. I'm just throwing out guesses here, but the intensity of your distaste for your friend's boyfriend suggests that this is more about you than him. He's not abusing her. He's not doing anything horribly wrong. In fact, you seem to think he's a pretty good guy who's just a bit unmotivated.
Try to figure out why you're taking this so personally. And maybe spend some more time with him. I know, I know -- you don't want to. But maybe you'll see some things you like.
Readers? What is the problem here? Is she projecting? Should she talk to her friend about her dislike for the boyfriend? Is this about concern for her friend? Anyone been in a similar position? Discuss.
– Meredith
Should I wait for him to be ready?
I won't be in chat today. I'm in New York with my sister and her boyfriend. But please join Glenn Yoder, who will be dressing up in my clothes and moderating the chat. He'll be there at 1. Wearing heels.
And don't forget to send your book reviews. You know who you are.
Q: So it has come to this. I cannot waste any more of my oh-so-fleeting free time analyzing the relationship I've found myself in for the past 12 months. I am divorced -- married three years, divorced for three years. Physically/emotionally ignorant, abusive ex-husband. An aberration to my upbringing and to my own 32-yr-development of healthy self esteem and identity. Guess I was trying to help/save him. Played like it always does. For three years I've been back to me. Love myself (not narcissistically), LOVE my 5-yr-old daughter (father is the erratic ex), have the best family, and am grateful for every waking moment. Really.
I met "Counterpart," we'll call him, last summer. He was separated for maybe four months from his wife of three years and lived apart from her for that time. He and I have been seeing each other once or twice a month to date since then. His divorce was legally finalized in March. Here's the cute part: we grew up together and were each other's childhood crushes beginning in kindergarten, ending in first grade, but continuing to have the same experiences in the same places w/ mutual friends up until age 22. We moved to different places, thought it would be good to get married to others in our mid-20s per script. His wife, from his explanation, was not nice i.e., which, always wanted her way, got her way, dragged him around until he lost his cool, witty, smart rebel attitude that I had always observed. Now we find ourselves together. He tells me I am the (insert superlative). He claims to never have had as much fun and ease with anyone but me ever. BUT -- he is afraid. Afraid of failing. Afraid of me suddenly rolling my eyes at him. Afraid of me demanding to choose what I want and selfishly ignoring his needs. Afraid of me hating his friends and not wanting to see his family. Afraid of me superficially wanting a big house. These are all things his ex did. These are all things completely out of my character. I am silently insulted. It is not fair. I am being punished for the experiences of his dissolved marriage.
He hates his life situation he's said, all except for me -- "the one thing he has to look forward to and make him happy." I deem him to be the most considerate, heart-warming, compliment giving, humorous, handsome, thoughtful, genuine, naughty in a good way, music loving, hardworking, makes me feel like the only-woman-alive kind of guy. But yes, we see each other only once a month for the past year. Granted we are busy w/ work, family obligations on both ends, me a single mom ... Excuses? He brought up the exclusivity talk immediately when we started dating. We are sure on that. He initiates contact on the phone every two days. Never makes false promises. Every date is like a first date. Fun, but yeah, 16 first dates. In his word he doesn't want us to be anything so that way we cannot break up or hurt each other. You and I know it is past that point. I can't rush him. Should I back away after a year and give him time? I have a daughter to raise and a good career to distract me. But I crave companionship (as long as it is from someone awesome). He just means so much to me, worth it more than any other guy I've encountered. How do I approach this? Do I wait? Is it ultimatum time? Thank you for reading my Walter Mitty stream of consciousness tirade. I love him. Help me.
– The waiting feel is not so fine, Boston
A: I don't know if his reluctance to commit is about you, his ex, his family obligations, or his "rebel attitude," TWFINSF. But I do know that you're already rolling your eyes at him. You're already frustrated that you're not getting what you need.
If you gave him an ultimatum, what would it be? How often would you want to see him? How involved would you want him to be in your life? Figure out exactly what you want and talk to him about it. He'll either want to meet somewhere in the middle -- or he won't. Call it an ultimatum if you want, but I call it honesty. The first-date phase of your relationship has run its course. As you put it, it's past that point.
I know your story is romantic, but you have to forget what happened when you were five. If he's not ready for more than a string of first dates, you have to consider other options. I'm not so sure he can ask for exclusivity and demand distance at the same time. And I'm not so sure you should wait for someone who's content to see you just 16 to 24 times a year. Right now he's a phone friend with benefits.
Readers? Should she wait? Is this about his fear? Is once or twice a month OK when you have family obligations/kids/etc.? Does he get a pass because his divorce is so new? What's going on here? Talk.
– Meredith
Did I miss my window?
Loved those updates yesterday. I'll be writing from New York for the rest of the week. Hopefully from a place with air conditioning. And guacamole. Now a letter …
Q: Hi Mere,
First time writer, daily reader. Please help me figure this out ... I think I have a work crush, but I'm not sure ... it's been a long time ...
A little about me ... I am a woman aged 47, who was widowed two years ago and out of circulation for twelve years prior. It's been a long journey back to the dating world, but I think I'm ready to make the attempt. At this point in my life, I can honestly say I know how short life can be.
There is a man (a.k.a. Smiley) who works at my office and is a laborer. I'm a corporate mucky muck (let's say fifth from the top of a huge organization). Which presents the first issue: is corporate America accepting of this difference in position and social status? I'm not sure he knows how high up the corporate ladder I am. About a year ago he gently started complimenting me, smiling, and getting elbows from his buddy at a company picnic when I walked in (which I saw out of the corner of my eye).
He openly admitted to flirting with me last time I ran into him, a few months ago. I didn't think much about all of this until he left the room a few minutes later with a blush around his collar. At that moment like a splash of cold water hitting me, I realized he liked me. So, OK ... LL commenters ... everybody say it out loud ... "DUH." Somehow I feel the need to admit to my stupidity to you all and say, "How could I have not even acknowledged him?" Especially when I see this 50-year-old man so visibly shaken by little ole me? I've spent months raking myself over the coals about it, and all I can figure out is that I was dealing with so many issues, my grief, estate settling, moving houses and getting children home from college issues ... I couldn't even think about what to say or do. But I do like him, he's nice and sweet and he cared enough to lift me up when I was so down. But I am really out of practice and in new territory here, which leads to issue number two. I felt horrible that I didn’t acknowledged his flirt, so I sent him an e-mail a week ago, letting him know how many times his nice comments have made me smile. Today he stopped by my office and said thank you for the love note, but that he didn't remember what he said to warrant the email and have a good day. Was that his way of saying I blew it, and that he's moved on (to more acknowledging) women?
– Did I Miss My Chance, Massachusetts
A: DIMMC, do not beat yourself up for the "DUH" behavior. As you said, you were coping with the loss of a partner. It's understandable that you weren't focused on decoding the flirtatious behavior of your coworker.
Maybe he has moved on -- or maybe he's just tentative because you didn't respond to his initial passes. Or maybe he's just having a "DUH" moment of his own. Or, yes, maybe he's a bit wowed by your professional awesomeness. But I'll say this – if he wasn't afraid to flirt with you, he's most likely not put off by your success. And if you've both worked there for a while, he knows what you do for a living.
There's only one way to answer these questions, right? Suggest a social outing. You can ask by e-mail or in person. Maybe: "We should escape the building for lunch today." Or: "It's been quite a week. Want to grab a bite after work?" I mean, what's the worst thing that can happen? He rejects the offer? He doesn't respond? It would sting a bit but at least you'd have an answer.
Keep in mind that Smiley could have just replied to your e-mail, but he stopped by your office to talk in person. At the very least, he digs you as a friend. Also know that if you have a crush on someone, it rarely goes away for good. Maybe he's seeing someone else these days, or maybe he's a bit embarrassed and shy, but if he had a crush, it's still somewhere in that brain of his.
You said you know how short life can be. So get to it. And know that if it doesn't work out, it's OK. This is good practice so that you're ready for the next guy whose friend elbows him when you walk by.
Readers? Did she miss a window? Is the crush gone? Is it significant that he stopped by her office? Is he just confused by her unintentionally confusing signals? Is her career an issue for him? Discuss.
– Meredith
He's sending pics to other women
Have a good weekend.
Q: I’ve been an avid reader of you're column ever since I moved to Boston. I never thought I would write in myself, but, that seems to be the way of things. Here is my dilemma:
I am a 30something woman who has been in a relationship for 3 years. We met out in the mid-west. We were both in grad school at the time. We knew from the start of the relationship that I would be moving to Massachusetts at the end of that first year, and he was OK with that. We agreed that we would see how things went. When it was time for me to move, he said he wanted to make it work long distance. I agreed. I was totally, madly in love, and believed he was as well.
That year apart was one of the hardest I've experienced. But we made it work and were able to see each other at least once a month. We maintained the relationship because we both wanted it to grow. We had talked about trying to live in the same city again, since we still both wanted to be together. But he continued to explore jobs in places I wasn't, and to make a long story short, I started to wonder whether he was being faithful and if he was serious about moving ahead with the relationship. One day while he was visiting and had his computer out, as much as I hate to admit this, I looked at his e-mail. What I found completely astounded me. Not only had he been planning dates with a woman who worked at a company where he was hoping to get a job (and later found out that he went on a date with her, and they kissed), but I also found that he had been sending naked pictures of himself to his ex-girlfriend (whom he always denied having contact with), and had also carried on a serious e-mail flirtation with a classmate of his. I was devastated, as he was always saying how he would never cheat on someone, because he had been cheated on. He had good values. Was from a good family. I didn't get it.
He begged me for forgiveness and again said he wanted to make it work. He moved to Boston to show how committed he was to changing, and attempted to find jobs here. We moved in together, and began the long and arduous process of healing and moving forward. I did end up forgiving him, and we had many, long talks about what happened and why. He said he had been miserable at the time because he couldn't find a job, felt worthless, etc., and ended up cheating. He was going to go to counseling, but never did. I had wanted to marry him and he said he wanted to marry me. But, for whatever reason (he said financial) the ring never came. Still, things were going great this year, and I was happy. I thought we both were.
Fast forward to a few weeks ago. He still hasn't been able to find the job he wants out here (but has been able to work from home this past year). I again checked his e-mail while it was open (which I hadn't done all year). I again discovered that he had been sending naked pictures of himself to women, only this time it was to strangers he had found on Craigslist. Again, I was devastated.
So here we are again. He still wants to make it work, but I don't understand why, or if I want to go through this all again. I've been wanting to get married and begin that part of my life for a while now, and while I still love him, I fear that this person is for obvious reasons, just not the right person for me.
Is it possible to move on AGAIN after something like this? Is it likely it will happen again? Should I give him another chance? He started going to counseling this time, because he says he too wants to figure out why he has done these things, and prevent them from happening in the future. He has been ring shopping, and says he wants nothing more than for us to be married. I don't understand the motivation behind cheating, and wanting to maintain our relationship. I fear that I know the answer to my questions, that I will never be enough for him, but just don't know how to start all over again by myself.
– Confused and Afraid To Be Alone, South End
A: I don't know whether he'll send pictures of himself to strangers again (although, if I were a betting man, I might put some money on it), but I do know that rings and a lifetime commitments should not be on the table, CAATBA. I know you want to get married, but you have yet to make this work. It didn't work long distance. It hasn't worked with him living in the same house.
People who are just out of school and can't find jobs are often miserable and insecure. But -- that doesn't mean everything he's done is about his temporary situation. And it certainly doesn't mean all should be forgiven.
You're telling us that you know what you have to do but that you're afraid of being alone. I get that. But I would think that spending more time on a guy who isn't marriage material might be scarier than trusting your gut.
If you need to give him another chance before walking away, fine. But marriage shouldn't even be in the mix until you've had a good relationship for longer than you've had a bad one. At the moment, you're not even close.
Readers? Should she give him another chance? Is this about his unemployment? What’s with the ring talk? Should I run some updates on Monday? Because I think I want to. Now help CAATBA.
– Meredith
My job or my boyfriend?
I loved yesterday's letter. Hiding candy from a boyfriend. I have a friend who hid a portable Tetris player from her boyfriend. If anyone tried to keep me from Tetris, I'd have to break up with them.
The book reviews are coming in and they're funny. It's going to be hard for me to pick a winner. I may have to get help.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I never thought I would need Love Letters because I thought I had my relationship figured out -- however I'm a bit torn on the next move in my relationship.
My boyfriend and I have been together about 6 months. We met through an online dating service. He is the most amazing guy I have ever met -- caring, smart, funny and very successful in his job. He built his own home 3 years ago, and it is a truly beautiful home. We talk every night on the phone for at least an hour and spend as much time together as we possibly can, always spending entire weekends together. The catch? He lives 2 hours away from me in New Hampshire. Weeknight dates don't really happen, as we would have to drive at least an hour to even meet in the middle somewhere for dinner. I always go up to visit every weekend, and we've done everything from the ordinary dates of dinner and a movie, to spending wonderful romantic weekends in a seaside town. I've already met most of his family and we usually go out to breakfast with his parents on Saturdays when I'm up there. I'm 24 and he's 32.
My question: he has asked me to move in. However I work and live in the Boston area, so my commute would be at least 4 hours each day round trip. My current living situation is nothing spectacular. I live in a tiny two bedroom apartment with a roommate. My lease is currently month to month, so I can leave at anytime. I really have no ties here to the Boston area, other than my job. I've made a career for myself here, love my job, and know that getting a job up there in this economy would be difficult. I've already browsed around online. My guy's job is a specialized job and he can't transfer anywhere local. He already has an hour commute himself. I wouldn't want him to sell because I love the house (hate the location), and because living in that area is so much more affordable than Massachusetts -- and the housing market is so bad right now the house wouldn't sell for a decent price.
So Meredith & LL readers, what do I do? Move into a new, beautiful home with my dream guy in New Hampshire or just suck it up and keep giving up my weekends to see him for the sake of my career? We've already spoken about marriage in the near future- but he doesn't want to propose until we've lived together for awhile.
– In Love With Him & My Career, Watertown
A: ILWH&MC, the tone of your letter suggests that your boyfriend is the necessity and the job is the luxury. Assuming I'm right about that, you have three options.
1. Quit your job and move in with him. Resent him a bit and find an inferior job once you get up there.
2. Stay in Boston, visit him on weekends, start a job hunt in New Hampshire, and move up there when you find the right gig. This option delays living together/marriage, possibly for a long time.
3. Find an apartment that is an hour closer to New Hampshire so you can have mid-week dates and occasional mid-week sleepovers.
I'm voting for 2 or 3. I'm not sure how urgent he is about the living situation, but if your relationship can take the distance, there's no harm in dragging this out until you find the right job. Make it clear to him that you're starting the job hunt now. You know you're eventually going to live up there, right? My advice is to start making preparations so you can live free or die on your terms. Do more than browse. Start planning your life.
Readers? This is our second distance letter in a week. Have I missed an option? Am I right to say that it sounds like her boyfriend is more important than the job? If that's the case, should she move now? How can she move without resenting him for the career sacrifice? Discuss.
– Meredith
He won't stop eating
1. We chat at 1 p.m. today.
2. If you are one of the people reviewing a self-help book, remember that your one-line review is due by July 31. Don't be late. I will track you down like the English teacher you feared in high school.
Q: Dear Meredith,
My boyfriend and I have been dating for three years, we live together, and we are both in our mid-30s. We have an excellent relationship. A little over a year ago, he was diagnosed with a medical condition that causes him a fair amount of pain. The treatment for this condition is a steroid, and one of the side effects of the steroid is excessive hunger.
This is the problem. My boyfriend -- we'll call him Frank -- no longer works out because of the pain he's in, and he eats everything in sight. He has put on a lot of weight. I love him, so please believe me when I say that I am concerned about his weight not for shallow reasons, but for health reasons. Don't get me wrong; we both love junk food, but I can control myself around it. He can't. I tried not buying junk food, but then he started buying it. So then I started trying to buy and make lower fat/lower calorie food for him (i.e. frozen yogurt instead of ice cream, reduced fat cookies, etc), figuring that at least he could binge on *slightly* less awful stuff. But instead he just went out and bought the full-calorie version. He bought me a huge box of chocolates for Valentine's Day, and it took me awhile to get through them, so eventually, he just finished them off.
Also, I work out regularly, and I've offered to bring him along. I've even offered to change my workout schedule to go with him to the gym, but he has declined my offers.
A couple of months ago, I bought a bag of candy for myself and hid it in my closet because I didn't want him to eat all of it before I could have some. One day, after I ate one of the candies, I left the wrapper on my desk, and he saw it, and asked where I'd gotten it (not in an accusatory way, but to find out where they were so that he could have one). I didn't want to lie to him (although I guess hiding the candy in the first place was sort of a lie), so I told him I was storing them in my closet to keep them safe. I said it in a joking way, but he felt terrible. He pretended to laugh about it, but I could tell his feelings were hurt - probably both because I'm not the type of person to hide things from him, but also because he feels sensitive about his weight gain. This is the crux of the problem. I want to talk to him about his food consumption, maybe explain to him that I am worried about the stuff he eats and the subsequent weight gain and the potential health problems, but I don't want to hurt his feelings, or make him worry that I am not attracted to him as much because of his weight gain. Weight is such a sensitive topic, and in his case, he has very legitimate, very real medical reasons for his weight gain. It is possible to control it through diet and limited types of exercise, but who am I to pass judgment on him for not being able to manage that? It is hard enough for the average person to eat right and exercise enough, and his situation is not average.
So my question is this: Do I tell him I am worried about him and risk potentially hurting his feelings? Or do I wait for him to realize he needs to change his habits?
– Worried in Waltham
A: WIW, I have to tell you that when my asthma gets really bad, my doctor gives me prednisone, a steroid that makes me very hungry. On the rare occasion that I'm on the drug, I want meatballs. And four bowls of cereal. And those breakfast pastries that come with a frosting packet that you squeeze yourself. I empathize with your boyfriend.
I think the issue here is that he doesn't know how to manage his hunger. A nutritionist can help.
Your boyfriend already knows that you're worried about this. He already caught you hiding candy. He's not going to be shocked if you sit him down and tell him you want him to see a nutritionist so that he can better manage this intense hunger. Tell him that you need him to do this for both of you. You're worried about him, but it's also difficult for you to manage your weight when you live with someone who's making fast food runs.
He's in pain, he's hungry, and he feels bad about himself. It's almost impossible for a person in that position to come up with a plan for weight loss. Be his friend. Tell him that you want him to be as happy as possible and that no one should have to figure this out by themselves. That's why there are medical professionals for this kind of thing.
Again, he already knows what you think. All you have to do is help him come up with a plan.
Also, after you have the talk, I highly recommend making out with him. Let him know this isn't about attraction. It's about love.
Readers? How can she talk about weight without hurting his feelings? After the candy incident, does she have to worry about hurting his feelings? Will he get defensive if she tries to help? Do you ever hide sweets from your partner? Feed.
– Meredith
We always vacation with his family
Q: Meredith,
My guy and I have been together for over three years and there is a bit of an age difference. I am 25 and he is 33. Let's call him Steven. Steven and I met while working at a summer camp. It was instant chemistry. At the end of the summer he moved to one state and I moved to Boston for graduate school. After a year of long distance he picked up his life and moved in with me. We have been living together now for two years.
We both love to travel but we don't have a lot of money. When we get the chance to get away, it's a big deal. We have traveled a few times together and nearly every time we travel we are visiting his friends or his family -- except for twice in two years we went to my hometown for a weekend. I do not get a lot of time off from work, so when I do, I would like to go away, just the two of us.
We are planning a big, nine-day road trip for the end of the month. When we started planning, we decided we would camp and go visit his old roommate for a couple days. I was fine with seeing the old roommate. But suddenly, the trip has turned into a visit to the old roommate and then a drive to see his cousins on the coast for a couple days because we can stay for free and they have a boat. NOW his parents and brother (who has two young children who are obsessed with their Uncle Steven) have decided to join our vacation.
Back story on his mother -- when Steven and I were dating long distance, I became very frustrated because I was always going to visit him. I was a poor grad student and I would spend my weekends on a bus for seven hours to see him. He told his mother about my frustration and she wrote me a six page letter telling me how good Steven is and how I'm lucky to have him and that I should cut him some slack, which I thought was completely crossing the line. I mean Steven was 30 years old at the time. Cut the cord, lady. Steven agreed she crossed the line.
I tried telling Steven that I do not understand why our travel plans have to center around his friends and his family -- I have friends and family, too. He doesn't think that his parents joining us is going to change any of our plans because they would stay at a hotel. The next day was my birthday, so I did not want to get into it again.
So now this issue is just floating out there, and our departure date is rapidly approaching
Steven is very close to his family, and I appreciate that, but he is 33 years old. How can I gently explain to him that it is time to take time for just the two of us to get away? Am I being selfish because I live with him and see him everyday and yet I would like a romantic vacation for two?
– Dating a 33-year-old Momma's Boy, Boston
A: DA33YOMB, you're not going to fix this upcoming trip. All you can do is try to enjoy the free stuff. Maybe his parents will take you to a fancy dinner. Live it up on the boat.
You're not being selfish. You want a change of scenery with your great boyfriend. And of course he loves these trips. Everyone is revolving around Uncle Steven.
That said, I don't think this was intentional. My guess is that Steven was looking to save money. Perhaps he'd rather have the free boat than a one-on-one vacation that you'd both have to pay for. And while I think it's annoying that you were always bussing to see Steven back in the day, he did move for you. We shouldn't forget that.
After this vacation is over, try another talk. Don't focus on what has already happened, just take out a calendar and make plans for the future. Consider the full year -- how many vacations you both have and how much money you're willing to spend on them. Divvy up the days -- a trip to see your family and a trip to see his. Then set aside time for just the two of you and make plans to save for that getaway.
And consider that it might be best for him to see his family alone while you see yours. Space is good.
Readers? Is this really about the letter from the mother? Because I think it might be. She still seems to be stewing. And how can she make him understand that they're vacationing on his terms? Or is this just about money? Is she being selfish? Discuss.
– Meredith
He won't call me his girlfriend
But he will call her his "special friend."
For the record, you're all my "special friends."
Q: Dear Meredith,
I am 27 years old and was recently diagnosed with breast cancer. The guy I had been seeing at the time was pretty unsupportive and self-absorbed, which were not characteristics I needed in my life. I really loved him but it was an unhealthy relationship that pretty much consisted of me bending over backwards to please him. After my diagnosis, I realized life is far too short to put up with anything sub-par, so I cut him out of my life.
I met this other man who had also recently undergone a cancer diagnosis and treatment. He is a few years older and is mature, understanding, and wonderful to me. He takes me out, brings me surprises, and takes good care of me when I'm feeling down and out. We have a lot in common (especially with our health) and he makes me laugh and feel like no one else can.
The problem arose when we started making grilled cheese sandwiches. We started seeing each other in March and I made him wait a few months before the cooking in the kitchen started. I have to admit that I am/was jaded when it comes to relationships because of how my ex treated me. I tried having the talk with "New Guy" about where we stand and what was exactly going on with us. He pretty much said that the terms "girlfriend/boyfriend" were "elementary school" and that "friend" and "girlfriend" mean the same thing. I personally think that's totally untrue. He has also referred to me as his "special friend," which really rubbed me the wrong way. He has referred to ex-girlfriends in conversation, so I know that he hasn't always felt this way. Needless to say, it really hurt my feelings and made me feel completely rejected after getting up the nerve to even have the conversation with him in the first place.
We're going on vacation together in August, just the two of us. We see each other frequently and he treats me like his girlfriend. He tells me he loves me. What do I do? Do I let it go and just wait to see what happens? I am a little uncomfortable making grilled cheese without a "label" but I don't want to push him away. It's only been a few months, and I don't want to ruin the best thing that has come out of this diagnosis. I also don't want my past relationship to influence the way I act or treat this new one. Should I push it and keep trying to get it official or sit back and wait?
– Living in Limbo, Worcester
A: Isn't the relationship official, LIL? Besides the whole "girlfriend" thing, you're exclusive, from what I can tell. You care for each other and travel together. I think you're where you want to be -- he's just calling it something else. Please focus on the actions. They're as important as the words.
For the record, I'm with you. "Friend" does not mean "significant other." And it's not that I think "girlfriend" is a necessary label, it's just that I'm not sure why he's avoiding it so much. If hearing the word "girlfriend" gives you the peace of mind you need, he should say it. And he certainly shouldn't belittle you for wanting the label. Frankly, "special friend" sounds pretty "elementary school" to me.
My advice is to have another conversation with him. Take all of the labels off the table and define what you are. If he says you're exclusive, that he loves you, and that he has no plans to go anywhere at the moment, then you're in the same place. Chill out and enjoy it. And maybe, when you're both in a fun, playful mood, come up with a new label. Significant other? Partner? Awesome person I'm dating exclusively? Personal grilled cheese chef? Perhaps after you make the list, "girlfriend" will rise to the top as the least "elementary school" of the bunch.
Readers? Does his refusal to use the label mean that he's not all in? Anyone else object to calling someone they love a girlfriend? Do those three words mean more than a label? When are words as important as actions? Discuss.
– Meredith
She lives too far away
Last night's movie was excellent. Perfect for our crowd. I highly recommend it. And the after-party was lots of fun -- free meatballs, nice readers, a "Simpsons" pinball machine, etc.
A funny story about last night -- before the screening, one of my friends noticed that Stephen King was in the lobby of the movie theater. I stood there watching him get popcorn and I started wondering, "Is Stephen King a secret Love Letters reader? Will he be in the audience tonight?" Sadly, he went into another screening room. But he should have joined us. I always thought that "Christine" was a wonderful love story -- and boy would it make a good Love Letter.
We'll do another event soon.
Today's letter is about mice.
Q: Hi Mere,
I'm a country mouse. Although I have lived in the city on a couple of occasions, the longest stretch being 15 months, I have always been drawn to green places with open spaces. So 11 years ago when I sought to purchase a home I bought a house with a forested yard in a small town with lots and lots of green on the map. My home is about 30 miles from the city and since living here I have commuted as much as 1.5 hours to work, but now my job is just 10 miles away. I'm 37, and have been divorced for four years.
Two years ago I fell in love with a city mouse (same age, never been married, had two long relationships before me). She has lived within 20 miles of where she was born her entire life. She grew up near the city. She went to college in the city. She worked and lived in the city (but never with a boyfriend). One year ago, my beautiful city mouse decided to buy a home in the mountains, nearly four hours away, near her favorite place to play. She moved many of her belongings to the mountain, and the rest she moved into my home in the country.
I have always tried to make her feel welcome in my house. I gave her the guest room and a dresser for her clothes, another room for all her miscellany, and made space in the shed for her sports equipment. I charge her no rent, she pays no bills. She had some trouble adjusting last summer, but by the fall she seemed to settle in, pruning the shrubs and planting bulbs in the yard. This spring she did lots more landscaping, making me think that she's beginning to appreciate the country life. She still stays with friends in the city when it makes sense for work (a few nights a month on average), and spends as much time at her mountain home as possible. She's freelance and doesn't work a set schedule or even in a set place, but she does seem to work in the city quite a bit.
I've always known my city mouse to be moody, but lately the trigger seems to be one thing: the remote location of my town. She knows I don't want to stay here forever, but this is a bad time to sell, the house needs some work before I could market it anyway, and I simply can't afford this much house any closer to the city. Last night she called on her way back from the mountains. I could tell she was in a mood and asked her what was wrong. She was frustrated. Nothing about my country house is convenient for her.
"I don't have to live here forever," I told her. "Neither do I," she replied. "We'll talk about this later."
We haven't yet had a chance to talk, and I’m reeling inside .I think she's strongly considering moving back to the city, as she recently made a comment that she could afford to rent in the city and keep up her mortgage in the mountains.
I absolutely adore my city mouse and want to create a life with her, and have told her as much. I also completely understand her frustration with my location, but I don't know what I can do make this situation any better. I will be devastated if she decides to move out, and also think it would be the end of the relationship. What can I do to convince her stay?
– Country Mouse, Metrowest
A: Can you move to the mountain? I mean, CM, this is basically a long-distance relationship. Long-distance relationships are a drag when there's no plan to close the gap. My advice is to come up with a plan. Even if that means renting your house. Even if that means leaving it vacant until you're ready to sell.
Instead of barking at each other about the status quo, sit down and come up with a real timeline for the mountain move. She's tired and I get that. Tell her that you empathize and that you want to come up with a plan -- whether it's joint mountain living, a specific date for you to sell no matter what, or simply a better way to do the distance. I'm not opposed to involving a third party in the discussion. Perhaps a third person can come up with an option that you and city mouse can't.
I'll also point out that your letter makes it sound like she's doing the hauling, so it's no surprise you're getting attitude over the phone. Be practical. Consider what sacrifices you can make. As you said, you adore your city mouse and you want to create a life with her. That may mean selling your home before you want to. That may mean driving to the mountains more than you want to. But isn't it worth it? Sit down and make a plan.
Readers? Am I missing something? Can you help Country Mouse deal with his angry city mouse? Should he sell his home in a bad market to save his relationship? Are they doomed or is this just a logistical issue? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'll be his second proposal
Those of you coming to the movie tonight -- get there early to get a good seat.
Those of you who didn't get tickets -- please join us at the after-party anyway at Flat Top Johnnys in Kendall Square. We should get there by 9:30, so just see a different movie at Kendall at 7 and we'll meet you over there. Maybe "I Am Love" at 6:40? That would get you out at about the same time.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I don't know if this is one of your typical questions or not, but I'm sort of stuck as to where to go from here.
My boyfriend and I have been together for over a year and half. He's one of the best things that has ever happened to me and we're both head over heels in love. All we do is laugh, have fun, and enjoy each others company. We work together, live together, and have talked about our future with one another. About six months ago, my boyfriend surprised me and took me ring shopping. We found the "perfect" ring (he didn't purchase it then) and went home giddy with excitement over our future.
My hold-up here is this: My boyfriend has been engaged before. He was with someone for almost four years but they broke it off eight months before the wedding. I'm not doubting that he's ready to be with me, marry me, or anything like that. My problem is that I keep thinking, "What if he plans the same proposal?" (which I can fully admit is SUPER silly to even think about let alone stress about). I'm also thinking "will he be as happy/excited/nervous as he was the first time?" I've asked him if he'd share with me the details about how he proposed to his ex, but he told me that he didn't want me to compare the two and that he doesn't feel comfortable sharing that with me as it is in the past. He's been super honest about everything in his past in regards to his ex. Do I tell him it's something that is bothering me or do I let it go? Thank you!
– Silly Girl in Central Mass
A: Yes, the proposal is SUPER silly to stress about, SGICM. It will be different because he's proposing to you. It will be different because he's older and wiser. And do you really think he'd duplicate his first proposal? Give him some credit, please.
My guess is that your anxiety has more to do with your boyfriend's ability to make it work this time around. He was with his ex for four years and the relationship ended. He wants to marry you, but it has only been a year and a half. I don't think that means anything, but I can understand why you'd want proof that he knows what he's doing.
Be honest with yourself. If this is really about understanding why it's different with you, talk to him about that. Let him convince you. But really, get the rest of it out of your head. Second proposals are no less special.
Readers? Is this really about the proposal or is she denying a greater fear about his commitment? What are the odds he's planning the same proposal? Does it matter? What's the story here? Be nice.
– Meredith
I'm not Jewish
Q: Hi Meredith and Love Letters,
The back story: I'm in my early-mid 20s. This spring I went on a couple dates with a man a few years my senior (nothing crazy -- only about 5 years). We hit it off well and I thought we had potential. Then, after our first kiss, I get an e-mail from him saying we should just be friends because he isn't "feeling it." OK, that's fine since I'd rather be friends with him than nothing at all. My feelings, while still there, were suppressed while we continued to hang out on a friendly basis. And as expected, we always had a lot of fun but I never tried to push anything further. He's a good friend to have.
I was out with Guy and his friends on a recent holiday weekend. There was drinking but Guy and I didn't get anything beyond buzzed as we had early morning plans together the following day. We left together. As we were saying goodbye at our departure point, he kissed my cheek and then kissed me. I kissed back, and it was leaps and bounds better than our first (and only other) kiss. Of course I was confused at that point. So we talk, and he tells me that he lied in his e-mail. He really likes me, but he wants Jewish kids, and since I'm not Jewish, that's impossible with me. He point blank said that if we dated, it wouldn't go anywhere, so dating is not an option. I appreciate his honesty, but still!
I'd never felt more crushed. He knew going into our first date that I wasn't Jewish. He mentioned he went out with me with no expectations and then found himself with a girl he really liked. And I found myself with a guy I really like. And we get along so wonderfully. We kept our plans the following day and it was as though nothing had happened a few hours earlier. Which was great because I really don't want to lose our friendship.
A few weekends after that second kiss, we ended up drinking a bit, made out the entire walk home (yes, out that late), and then spent the rest of the night/morning together. We were both willing and completely happy participants in the night's activities, but nothing was spoken of it in the morning.
I know that what "we" are needs to be defined at this point. I am just not sure how to go about it. Can I get him to give me a chance? I am still not Jewish, but we both know how much potential our relationship would have. I could live with just being friends; I just want to know that the option has been exhausted (without looking desperate).
– I'm not Jewish, Boston
A: INJ, do you want to raise your kids Jewish? Do you care? Can you picture yourself in a long-term relationship with someone who prioritizes religion? These are the questions you should be asking yourself before you start trying to convince this guy to give you a real chance. He's warning you that in the future, he's going to be someone who lives life a certain way. I fear that you haven't given that enough consideration and that you're more concerned with wanting what he is in the present.
If you're truly open-minded about all of this and you like him enough to consider raising kids with him on his terms, all you can do is tell him that. You don't have to propose or tell him that you're on track to convert, but you can tell him that you're open to all possibilities. He'll either give in to his desires or tell you that he just can't bend the rules. And that's OK.
I know you like him, but if he doesn't want to consider you as a real romantic option, please don't force yourself to be his close friend. Take some time off from him. You seem too willing to be whatever he wants you to be (his hook-up, his platonic friend, a mother to his Jewish children). Please take care of yourself.
Readers? What's going on here? Why does he continue to make out with her if she's not Jewish? Has she considered her own wants for the future? Anyone want to share dating/religion stories? Discuss.
– Meredith
Can I get the love back?
Friday I'm in love. But she may not be.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I cannot believe I am writing to LL…but here it goes. I’ll try to keep it as brief as I can; I know people dislike diatribes.
I am in my early thirties and have been in a relationship for about eight yrs. We are not married but we own a home and have a dog together so we are more than invested in things. Over the past year plus, I have been feeling less and less physically and emotionally connected to this person. Our sex life is pretty bad and has been for a few years but we both just seemed to block it out because there were other things (house, dog, peaceful coexistence). We've talked about the problems before but we always just seem to go back to the same pattern of no intimacy. From a compatibility stand point we do, however, make a good "team."
We had a big talk about this recently. I told him I don't think I can handle the lack of intimacy anymore and that I don't feel it’s something we can get back. While I was somewhat doomsday, he seems determined that we can regain some sort of physical connection. We never really talk about marriage but now he tells me he was looking for a ring a week before our talk (oy vey)! Ever since we talked he has really been trying, which I do appreciate, but to put it plainly, I am just not feeling it. I feel no connection and almost become nervous at the thought that he may try to "make a move." I guess I am asking if there is any way to salvage an otherwise decent relationship. This man is really wonderful – honest, hard working, laid back, and caring. As a person and a friend, I truly love him. But I fear that if I try to force or convince myself I can overlook the missing chemistry I may come to regret it several years down the line. I'm not getting any younger and may want to have children before I am 80. Can a relationship survive on good companionship alone? And should/does a relationship even still HAVE chemistry after so long? UGH!!
Thanks for any help,
– Worried, Confused, Celibate, and Feeling Guilty in South Boston
A: A relationship can survive on good companionship alone. Many people think that's enough. But you don't. And that's fine.
I think you're done with this person, at least as a romantic partner. You're talking about staying in it for him, not for you. You're trying to squeeze out the love. Not once did you mention a fear of being alone. Not once did you mention a fear of what life would be like without him as your boyfriend. The thing that scares you is the ring. The thing that scares you is him "making a move."
This decision is loaded because you're in your early 30s. That's when people get married. That's when people walk around thinking, "Thank goodness I'm with someone who wants to stick around." But that's also when people get married out of fear. You're not clinging to your guy because you're afraid there's no one else. You're saying, "I want to leave now as opposed to years from now." It’s upsetting, but it's honest.
Yes, a decent relationship can be saved -- if both partners want to save it. I'm not getting the sense that you do. This won't be easy. Oy vey, indeed. Hang in there as you go with your gut.
Readers? Do you agree? Is this relationship over? Discuss.
– Meredith
Becoming the angry other woman
There's a new RSVP address for the July 15 movie event.
RSVP here.
If you RSVP'd to events@globe.com, that's fine. Those will be counted, too. Just make sure you RSVP soon. I think we're about halfway to our capacity, and I keep hearing great things about the movie.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I am an avid reader of your column and to be honest, I read some of the stuff everyday and think to myself ... how can people involve themselves in these types of situations? Then I found myself in one. Earlier this year, I met a couple at a party while on a trip with a group of my close friends (ages 27-32). It was a weekend away. Everyone was visiting our friend down there and it was good to catch up and meet new people. On the second night of festivities, the guy from the "nice couple" resurfaced without his girlfriend. His girlfriend had decided to stay in at the hotel while he came out with his party pants on. Fast forward to later in the night when everyone was having a good times, good drinks, good laughs and, of course, you guessed it, there was a late night hook-up with Mr. Nice. The next day I figured I'd just ignore it and pretend like it didn't happen. After all, I live in Boston and he lives in halfway across the country, so I would never see him again. He started calling and texting and I replied, setting myself up for drama. Both of our jobs brought us frequently to the same city, and it was there that we began a relationship. I knew this was wrong, as the story always goes, but I didn't have the control to end things or back myself out of this situation.
This secret relationship lasted for about 3.5 months and I began have feelings for this guy. Every time we parted, he claimed he was going to be single the next time I saw him. I laughed and secretly hoped it would be true, although I knew I’d be dealing with a guy straight out of a relationship. I should have written to you then for advice.
As predictable as this story can get, his girlfriend went through his cell phone and found text messages that we wrote to each other. They were bad on so many different levels. I cringe thinking that someone else read these. He got busted and it seemed very intentional and he said he was relieved. I knew she didn't break up with him though, which was mind-boggling. We lost touch for about six weeks while the dust settled and I found out the other day from our mutual friend that he got engaged shortly after he got caught. These stories always end this way, but for some reason, I was telling myself it was going to be different. He is lucky that I am not a crazy psycho, but at this point I feel like turning into one. I'm trying to tell myself that this guy is a loser and to drop it. Out of sight, out of mind isn't working here. I need to be talked out of doing regretful, revengeful things because this news has made me want to be mean. How do people really exist like this aside from Jerry Springer? Thanks for your help.
– Turning from cool girl to crazy girl, Cambridge
A: I'm sorry, TFCGTCG. I mean, you're at fault for much of this (I hate pointing fingers, but we both know it's true), but it still hurts.
I know this is tough, but please remain a cool girl. Yes, this guy is getting married, but that doesn’t mean he's happy -- and it doesn't mean he's any less of a coward. He has to walk around knowing that he was desperate to be single and that he was too lame to do anything about it. He has to say "I do" to this woman knowing full well that he has already betrayed her repeatedly. You don't have to go Springer on him. He has already Springer'd himself. And really, what can you do to get him back? She already knows he cheated.
You're upset because you wanted a boyfriend and you didn't get one. That's all he was -- a placeholder where a boyfriend was supposed to be. You didn't even know him that well, and what you did know about him wasn't appealing. It was just the excitement of a romantic possibility.
Get revenge by pitying him from afar and looking for someone who's all over you in real life. Smiting your enemies and being fatal attraction-ish will just give you gas.
Readers? It seems this reader knew better, so why is she so angry? Is there anything she can do to get back at this guy? Is her issue even about this guy? What does it all mean? Discuss.
– Meredith
My guy likes to party all the time
If you missed yesterday, please read about (and RSVP for) the July 15 movie event.
Also, please chat at 1.
You know, it took me until like ... 1989 to get this song out of my head. Thanks, letter writer.
Q: Hi Meredith,
My boyfriend and I have been together for almost three years. We have a lot in common and enjoy each other’s company. I really do feel it's is a perfect match in many ways and he tells me he feels the same. I am 25 and he is 26. We both still live at home with our parents a couple towns over from each other, leaving it possible to see each other once or twice a week and on most weekends. We have discussed future plans of marriage, but we both know that we love the way things are going for now. We have said that maybe in another year or two, after we save a little more money, these plans will be acted on. I think that now would be a great time to start, but I do not want to pressure him into such a huge commitment. He is definitely worth the wait.
I understand that he is still young and a lot of him still wants to party and go out a lot. He is always making plans with his friends and always needing to know what they are up to. I am glad he has a great group of guy friends, and I get along great with them as well, but lately, they are his first priority. If I ask to go out for dinner on a Friday night, he always says "We’ll see," meaning, “I will wait for my friends to get back to me, then I will decide.” He always invites me out with them, which is a good thing, and gets upset when I don’t come out. I always respond with, “Why can't you just be with me for one night?" and his response is always “Because I love being out with all of us including my friends and you," or "In a few years from now, we won't be able to go out as much as we do and party."
I do agree that we have a handful of good years left before we all start settling down, but when is enough, enough? I know he does love me, and loves my company, but is it time for me to back away and reevaluate what would be better for me? I do have a great time when we go out in groups, but it would be nice once in a while to have my own quality time with him. This also makes me wonder, is he feeding me lines just to keep me around? Is he telling me he loves me and can't wait to marry me for nothing? It is just so confusing to me because after spending so much time with his friends, you would think that he would want a nice relaxing night with me once in a while. I would be absolutely devastated if we were to break up, but I have so much love for him that I know I am capable of loving another. Should I stick by, or look for someone else to love who would want to be in the presence of my company?
– All Partied Out!, Boston
A: I don't think he’s feeding you lines, APO. I think he loves you and wants you around. He doesn't seem to be looking for something new. In fact, he seems desperate to maintain the status quo. Many people in their 20s get scared of "adult life" and cling to routines to prove a point. Your guy is incredibly social and a bit paranoid about his grown-up future. I don't think this is about you -- I think this is his issue with his future self.
The thing is, it's hard to figure out his motives and your potential as a couple when you're both living with your parents. If you were living together or in your own places, you'd have plenty of nights alone together, and you'd both be psyched to escape with friends whenever possible. I think that if you knew when you were planning on moving in together -- like an exact date or year, at the very least -- you'd be less stressed. You'd know that he intends to move forward. You'd know that your current situation is temporary. At the moment, there's no end date.
At the beginning of your letter you say "we both know that we love the way things are going for now." But you don’t. You want to move out of your families' houses. You're not opposed to partying -- you just want to become more emotionally intimate and to know what you're looking forward to.
Talk to him. About the timeline. Because I think that's your real concern. I'm pretty sure that solving one problem will solve the other. If he can't move forward or come up with a real plan for taking the next step, then yes, you've got some big things to consider.
Readers? Is it problematic that he won't go for alone time? Am I right to say this is about their lack of plans for the future as opposed to partying? Is it troubling that her significant other shows some, um, Peter Pan symptoms? Will he ever want to settle down like an adult, whatever that means? Discuss.
– Meredith
Will it be my place too?
Thanks for such a big response to yesterday's self-help book giveaway. Hundreds of you e-mailed me for 30 books. Early birds will get worms. I'll try to get Globe pens or something to the rest of you.
Now for July 15. The movie company behind "The Kids Are All Right" with Julianne Moore and Annette Benning would like to have a Love Letters screening and after-party. It's a LL-ish movie -- couples, sperm donors, etc. We'll see the movie and then hang out. It seems like the perfect event for us. I mean, I like our nightlife parties, but all I really want to do is watch a movie with you and then eat nachos and talk about it. So let's do that.
RSVP for the movie at events@globe.com. Do it soon because I assume there's a limit. You'll get details and a confirmation. It will be much fun.
Q: My boyfriend and I have been together a year and we are both in our mid-20s. In the beginning, I wanted nothing to do with him; he pursued me and for whatever reason, it took me awhile to give in. I hesitate to say it was love at first sight, but we fell for each other rather quickly. We make each other very happy and spend a lot of time together but also balance each other out. I'm also somewhat of a pessimist in the love area and if you had told me a year ago this kind of relationship was imminent, I would have laughed. Regardless, I am very much in love with my boyfriend.
As a result of the economy, I spent some time after college flailing around, trying to find real work. I still live at home. My bank account suffered, and even though I am now employed in a stable position, I have no real means to move out very soon. I make money but nothing to write home about.
My boyfriend still lives with his parents too, but not out of necessity. Unlike me, he found a well-paying job immediately out of college and has been saving for a few years. His bank account is rather large. For the past few months, he has been talking about moving out and buying a condo. About a month ago, he asked me if I wanted to live with him.
I should also mention that we were both out on our own for awhile during college and then returned to the nest. We have had time to grow as individuals and are both (relatively) stable, mature, responsible adults.
At first I was ecstatic. Despite only being together a year, I have no doubts about him. I can picture myself being with him and we spend so much time together anyway, it makes sense. He is sweet and thoughtful and is crazy about me. He treats me better than I ever imagined any guy could.
As it stands now, he will purchase the condo and it will be in his name. I will live with him and contribute however and whenever I can. Initially wary of the fact that I will have no real financial or legal impact on the condo, I've realized it's a win-win situation. If things go well (which I forsee happening) I live there virtually rent-free. If things go bad, I can walk away from the situation, no real harm done. In a way, it sounds almost too good to be true. The heavy conversations we initially had about the big stuff went fine (i.e. I want to be with you, you want to be with me, I love you, commitment, etc.) and went a long way to ease my mind. I also made a point to talk about how I want to feel like it is ours even though he is buying it. He said he understood and wants it to be “ours” too
But now, the simple conversations we have about the little things (i.e decorating, kitchen appliances) are beginning to worry me and second-guess my decision. It's not so much the actual decorating that scares me, but the realization that we may be on two different levels when I once thought we were on the same wavelength. When I casually mentioned I can't wait to begin shopping for kitchen stuff, he said there's no need because he has all his stuff left over from college. In the same conversation he also said he wants to use his posters and sports stuff to decorate. Now, I'm not against sports stuff and I understand this is going to be about give and take, but it was more his matter-of-fact responses and my obvious realization that despite everything, it is going to be HIS condo, not mine.
I guess I'm looking for a reassuring nod or a smack against the forehead. My question is this- Despite my love for him and my complete faith in the relationship, is this a mistake? Even though we have talked about making it 'ours', will the fact that it is technically his ultimately make him territorial and me, resentful? I have re-iterated to him that I want to feel like more than just the girlfriend who happens to live there. He is receptive to my feelings and assures me it won't be like that, but am I playing with fire here? Is it too much too soon?
– I Don't Want to Get Burned, Massachusetts
A: I don't think you’re making a mistake, IDWTGB. I don’t think this is about too much too soon. I just think you have to deal with this issue as each decision is made. When he says he already has plates, you say, “How about we get some new ones.”
You should also set up a system that has you contributing more than "whatever and whenever you can." Pay a fraction of the mortgage. Pay bills. Be a roommate so you can make demands about your shared space without feeling as though you don’t have the right to ask. I'm not saying you have to pay half of everything. Just pay enough so that he knows what to count on, and that you feel entitled to have a say.
He gets the "us" concept in theory, but he needs it spelled out for him when it comes to the little stuff. My guess is that he has made you feel this way unintentionally. Tell him that you want your posters on the wall. Tell him you want to push the shopping cart at Ikea. And again, come up with a real system for money. It will be an uncomfortable discussion, but it will save you a lot of misery in the long run.
Readers? Does he get it? Should she be paying real rent? Are they moving in too soon? Is he being honest about wanting to share the space? Discuss.
– Meredith
Should I date my ex-husband?
I think we should all ditch work and meet at some restaurant with a patio.
Q: My ex-husband and I have been divorced since our children were small (they are now in their 20s). I remarried once for a brief and unfortunate time and I've had a few long, failed relationships. He used to date but hasn't in many years. We are both single now and remain very good friends.
He was always involved with the children, and our kids never remember us fighting or saying mean things to each another. Over the years we have changed and things just aren't as big a deal as they were when we were in our 20s. We are both nice people from good families and our families like one another.
My ex has always been welcome in our home. He spent Christmas Eves with us to wake up with the boys on Christmas morning (we slept in separate rooms). He came to every birthday party, and eventually every party we ever had he came as a friend and part of the family.
We remember being married and having many good times together. We now help each other with household things. He has helped me even when my boyfriend was living with me recently. My boyfriend and I used to visit him at his house.
We get along really well and have the same sense of humor and ethics. Not least of all we have our children's welfare in common. Recently I remodeled a room in my house. My ex helped me and we had a great time.
He is now doing his own remodel and asked me to help him with the design. It is my pleasure to help him - not only is it fun for me but I really enjoy his company. I think he enjoys mine. He never acts romantic at all and gives me no indication that he would like the relationship to evolve.
I admit I do think about it. I'd love to ask him to go out with me on a regular date: something fun, like a movie or concert. But I have some self-esteem issues surrounding my failed relationships. I'd be humiliated if he told me no, and I don't want to put our nice relationship at risk. I'd rather take what I have than risk not having his precious friendship. I would hate to think he would hesitate to call me because I put him on the spot. But, what if...?
– I am a lonely painter, I live in a box of paints, Boston
A: IAALPILIABOP, I'd take the emotional risk and ask your ex-husband/father-of-your-grown-children out on a date. And please, make sure he knows that it would be a date date. You guys sound chummy enough that a simple dinner-and-a-movie request might not be a big enough hint.
If he doesn't want to be with you like that -- if he has turned you from wife into platonic best friend -- well, yes, it's going to sting. And it may take you some time before you can jump in and remodel his home. But … aren't "what ifs" more painful? You can feel safe knowing that whatever happens, this man adores you. I'm pretty sure he'll go out of his way to help you cope with the rejection he doesn't feel the same way.
Please do not live in a box of paints. Please do not let this turn into an unrequited love situation where you're remodeling his home so that he can live there with someone else with him never knowing that you were an option.
And please, please, please -- give us an update when you know what's what.
Readers? Should she risk the perfect friendship she has with the father of her children by asking him on a date? Do you think he has feelings for her based on his close ties to her -- even when their kids aren’t involved? How bad would it be if he rejected her? Anyone have a friendship like this with an ex-spouse? Anyone live in a box of paints? Discuss.
– Meredith
Am I doing it wrong?
Please eat lunch outside today. (After you chat with me at 1.)
Q: Hi Meredith,
I am going to try to give you and readers as much info as possible without making this too long. I know how you guys like the details.
I'm a 22-year-old female. I work 40-plus hours a week for a great company. I didn't go to college. Well, technically I started, but it just wasn't my cup of tea. I wish I had had the motivation to stay, but I never did well in high school and always loved to work. My company will eventually pay for me to go back, so if I decide to move up in the business I will definitely take them up on that, but for right now I am content.
Anyway, the reason I am writing to you is because my parents/family/some friends have been all over me about the fact that I haven't had a serious relationship. Not one. I have dated and enjoyed it very much, but with some guys it was the fact that I wouldn't sleep with them. Or I slept with them too soon, or there was just no connection. (For the record, my number of "pajama party" partners is not high).
The problem here is -- I am content with my life. I get to hang out with my friends whenever I want, do whatever I want. There is no one who gets jealous about dumb things and no one who makes me jealous. I have seen what my friends have gone through in their relationships and they always end with "I'm too young to be this in love, let’s see what the future brings" So it looks like a waste of time to me. If someone is just going to break your heart because they are so young, why try?
I'm not saying that if I met someone and he wanted to take me out, I'd say no. Because I believe that if it happens, it happens. But whenever I have gone looking for love it never worked out and I wound up devastated. I can’t tell if I am just scared of rejection or if I am honestly comfortable living the way that I do. I don't sleep around or anything, but I go out and just have a good time living.
I don't see why people think that the way I live my life is such a big deal. They say there is no way that I am happy. But to be honest I feel like for once I am starting to take care of myself and I've never been happier. I'm young. Isn't this how I should be living my life? Or do you think I'm making excuses because I'm too scared to put myself out there?
– Goin' With the Flow, Boston
A: GWTF, I was worried about you until you said that you've been devastated. If you've been devastated, you've put yourself out there. And you've made it clear to us that if some cute guy asked you out and turned out to be a winner, you'd be into it. You're just not running around with a "Husband Hunting!" sign on your forehead.
People want you to be happy. They want you to have someone to lean on. People mean well. But they don't know what's in your head and what you need as a 22-year-old.
I find it interesting that you spent a full paragraph telling us about your college experiences (or lack thereof) and your work plans. That was paragraph No. 1. That's your priority right now -- figuring out who you want to be.
"But to be honest I feel like for once I am starting to take care of myself and I've never been happier."
Repeat that to anyone who's concerned. You're doing well, my friend.
Readers? Is she hiding something here? If she were comfortable with her single situation would she be writing this letter? Are her friends and family just freaking her out? Is her job the priority? Discuss.
– Meredith
I shouldn't be leaning on him
It's my birthday today.
I'm telling you that not because I am seeking attention (OK, fine, maybe I am a little), but because I was getting all weepy last night about Love Letters and how lucky I feel all of the time, and how awesome you are, even you lurkers. (Lurkers make the world go 'round, folks).
You are the world's best birthday present. You are iced coffee with two sugars. As Janet Jackson would say, love would never do without you. As Janet Jackson would also say, we are a part of a rhythm nation.
An emotional letter for an emotional day …
Q: A few months ago, your column featuring the man who had just found the perfect woman and had cancer really struck a chord with me. I still think about it from time to time.
My mother was diagnosed with a terminal illness. I am in my mid-20s and in the midst of a lot of "game changers." I have two jobs and am in school. I live with my parents.
I also began dating a really wonderful man a few months ago -- I adore him. He isn't necessarily the "perfect guy" (although he is really awesome) and I don't see Elysian visions of marriage. I don't anticipate anything serious and neither does he -- we just want to enjoy each other's company. He is thoughtful, fun, sweet, caring, hilarious, and considerate. Our relationship is still rather casual, but we spend a lot of time together. So, simply put, my love life is pretty nice right now.
Here is the problem -- I am an emotional wreck. I haven't been dealing well with my mother's diagnosis at all. My routines are shot to bits; I have been acting impulsively (not destructively); I am not quite financially stable; I have erratic sleeping habits; I have been acting extremely flaky and distracted in many areas of my life. Not to be dramatic, but my family members and I are also witnessing my mother undergo a steep and painful decline.
Last week and today there were very intense fights with my family (primarily with my father). My guy-pal has known from the start about my mother. He has been really great and understanding about the whole thing. Up until last week, I only touched upon it occasionally. After the first fight with my family, I tried to hold it in when I went out to dinner with the guy but he sensed something was amiss. I then let it all hang out when we got back to his place. The same thing happened this afternoon, when I called him to distract myself from the situation. I just ended up crying and crying. He is so nice and patient. Still, I have a major complex about divulging my feelings to friends and feeling like I am burdening them, thus there is no doubt that I must go into counseling very soon.
Just as I feel wary of unloading my feelings on my friends, I don't think it is fair of me to do the same to him. I've expressed that to him but he tells me that he doesn't mind listening to me. I am thinking that I might have to end our wonderful, just-fine-as-it-is relationship. Not because of him, but because I don't want him to feel obligated to "deal with me" and my emotions. I don't WANT to end it, but I think it's the fairest thing to do -- to say, "I am an emotional wreck due to my familial situation, and this isn't fair for you." I am writing to you for some guidance on this, of course, because the classic head-heart conflict is taking place. I adore him, but I want to preserve his sanity.
– Mess in Rockland
A: This guy doesn't feel obligated to deal with you, MIR. At least it doesn't sound that way to me. And you're not obligated to marry him even if he helps you out during this difficult time.
You can explain that you're concerned about him. You can explain that you're not at your best these days. If he chooses to remain your companion, fine. He knows the risks.
Maybe this is a temporary relationship and yes, maybe one of you will wind up hurt or burdened. It's also possible that you'll wind up really digging each other, even when there's less drama. You said it yourself -- you don't know up from down right now. For all you know, this thing will grow into something big.
I don't like the idea of putting off relationships until life is less messy. Life is always pretty messy. Your life is especially messy right now, but that doesn't mean you're not allowed to enjoy some good stuff. This guy is making life more positive for you at the moment. Don't deprive yourself.
For the record, the tone of your letter suggests that you're handling everything like a champ. Not all erratic, sleep-deprived twenty-somethings stew about their emotional responsibilities and how they might be inconveniencing others. But yes, counseling is a good idea. For you and the fam.
Readers? Should she let go of the guy so that she doesn't lean on him too much? Is it possible that this relationship has more potential than she thinks it does? Is it possible to have a sane romantic relationship during insane family times? Will he feel obligated to stick around because of her family situation? Help, please.
– Meredith
Still waiting for him to move
I know you like the early letters. Doing my best.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I'm a 48-year-old gay man in his first serious relationship. Yes, I came out late in life. My boyfriend, “Chuck,” is 42 years old and tells me that this is also his first serious gay relationship. We met when we were both living in another state --- and things were going reasonably well for few years when we both lived there.
We are very much opposites in personality. I’m more introverted and he's an extrovert, a true people person. I'm an academic while he's a great bartender. That's only important because my job pays more and provides the health insurance. His pay fluctuates greatly depending on the tourist economy. The plan was that once we got married, he'd go back to school.
We have had some rocky times and some absolutely great times. But we've run into trouble this past year. When things got shaky with my old company in the state where we met, we talked for almost four months about what to do, whether I should restrict my job search to a specific geographic region or expand it. We also talked about what it would take for him to move with me. He had said things like "I want to be with you, where you go I'll go." The best job, which was in a state that would allow us to get married, was up here.
Unfortunately, one of Chuck's parents became seriously ill and he wound up staying down there longer than expected. During this time, he kept telling me that he was moving and would keep setting new dates to move, delaying each date by two weeks or so, even when I would have just been OK if it was a simple "I'm not coming up until things are stable." Eventually, his sick parent passed away. At the funeral, he introduced me to everyone as "just a friend" one minute and then he talked about eloping the next. A whole series of events that weekend led me to pull back a bit and realize that we weren't as ready to get married as I had thought we were. I came back feeling that I was a boyfriend of convenience: there when he needed a boyfriend or extra money or dinners out.
After the funeral, he asked for more time to do some work at his family's house. But it has now been six months and he keeps sliding the date to move up. I had to push him hard to follow through to come up for a visit. When he did finally make it up, we sat down and talked about how much time he would need and even extended it by a month. Now he says that he won't live his life by external arbitrary deadlines and he can't say how much time he'll need. The answer to a question of "will you need two weeks, two months or two years?" was that he doesn't think he'll need two years.
My problem is after a year of being told "I'm moving" and "I'm coming up next weekend," I've lost faith that he'll do what he tells me he'll do. My head is telling me that he has been telling me through actions rather than words that he's not going to move. But my heart keeps saying to find a solution to go on; that we're better together than being separate.
We actually discussed breaking up over the weekend as we just seemed to drive each other crazy. Right now, we’re in a cooling off period. Friends keep saying that I just can't depend on him, and are frustrated with me that I don't get angry and break it off.
At this point in my life, after three years, I wonder if I'm fighting because I don't want to be alone rather than this being the great fit I thought we grew into.
– Still Waiting, Massachusetts
A: I have a question, SW. Does he want you to visit him more often? If he does, there might be something to save. I'm sure the death of a parent makes it incredibly difficult to want to move away from family. I get that. But he should also want to be with you. If he wants you in his life, he should be telling you that he's not ready to but that he wants you around.
Unfortunately, based on what you've told us, he basically wants you to stay up here and wait. That doesn't say togetherness to me. Again, I'm empathetic about his loss, but why doesn't he want to see you more often?
If he wants to cool off, cool off. You can only do so much, and it's hard to start a new life in a new city when you feel like you're on hold. If he says he wants to be with you and that visiting is a priority, fine. But so far, it hasn't been.
It wouldn't be the worst thing if this was your first relationship -- the first of more than one. Yes, being alone is scary, but waiting on a person who makes empty promises is scarier.
Readers? Should he wait? Should the letter writer be empathetic based on the death in his boyfriend's family? What's with all of these broken promises? Discuss.
– Meredith
He shut down
Our letter writer either named herself after a novel I had to read in high school … or an upcoming movie starring 50 Cent. Either way, I'm into it.
Q: Meredith,
I had been dating a guy for about five months. Things went really well. We were both amazed at how we could spend hours talking. While we had very different backgrounds and interests, our common ground was our morals. I was very happy. I felt adored. I felt listened to and cared for. I felt like I had a partner in crime and in happiness. He would interrupt a conversation to tell me how happy I made him.
Early on, he had been honest with me about his past, that he had a serious drug problem that required intervention, nasty breakup with a girlfriend, depression, and a stressful family situation. I was honest with him and told him those things were in the past and that I didn't feel right judging him based on past events, however if they reappeared we would have to deal with them.
Cut to the past two weeks.
I went on a trip to visit some friends cross country -- while I was away, he ignored every text, email, phone call, voicemail. I was so hurt. I’m not clingy, but a funny text here or there or a good night phone call never hurt anyone. Mind you, we email frequently while at work, text while not at work, and see each other about 4-5 times per week – so a form of communication per day is not asking for a lot based on experience.
I come back and express that I was really hurt. He goes into this long drawn out conversation about how unhappy he is, how I don’t trust him, how he’s busy "making moves," and that we should break up – this is all at 2am. We talk it out and he admits that he's been really unhappy with himself, doesn't feel he’s where he should be (job, house, education, etc.). I promise to support him however he needs it (through space or through actual support). Things are fine for a week. We have dinner with his mother, she gives me a gift she got me while on her vacation, and pulls me aside and tells me how happy she is, and that she thinks her son is very lucky to have me in his life. Next day I take him to meet my extended family – which I have only done on one other occasion, so it’s a VERY big deal. Everything goes well.
Day after that, on the way to look at condos for him, he makes a very hurtful comment to me. I was really upset and didn’t want to derail the process of house hunting so I said I was going to go home. He had no objections. The next day I had a job interview, and when discussing it with him that night, all he could do was pick it apart and was so extremely judgmental and argumentative. He tried to get off the phone, but I told him I wanted an explanation for his behavior, why he was acting so cold to me.
He gave a very distant speech about how he needed to worry about himself and couldn't deal with me stressing him out and that it was best if we parted ways. I called him out on speaking to me like it was a business transaction – his response -- "I apologize."
So here's the question, do I walk away and forget about him, seeing how I can't really talk to someone who doesn't talk. OR Do I fight? I know something is up with him. He's obviously depressed again and refusing to talk to anyone about it. I really care about him, but where do I cross the line and worry about myself rather than him?
– Things Fall Apart, Boston
A: We get a lot of letters from people who want to know if they should fight for their relationships, TFA. I’m all for fighting to save things but only when two people are fighting together. You'd be fighting against this guy. That doesn't seem like a good use of your fighting powers.
He's either mixed up and doesn't want you near him, or he's less mixed up than he seems and he doesn't want you near him. Maybe this is more depression. Maybe he has commitment issues. Maybe he doesn't understand that the whole "I'm not feeling like I am where I should be" thing doesn't entitle you to be a jerk. Also, while we're on the subject, how many of us are exactly where we think we should be? Unfortunately, we can't script our lives so that we meet the perfect partner right after we find the right job, purchase the right property, and lose the right amount of weight. He either wants a partner right now or he doesn’t.
If you're really worried about his depression and think he might be a danger to himself, e-mail his mom. I'm sure pretty sure she's already aware of his issues and is watching over him. She bought you a gift and told you her son was lucky to have you around. Seems to me she knows he's not so easy to deal with.
At this point, your job is to worry about yourself, which means lots of time with friends and that extended family of yours.
I'm sorry. The good news is, he may have changed his behavior, but you're still awesome.
Readers? When are you supposed to "fight" for a relationship? Should his personality change be the letter writer's concern? What should the LW be doing now? Discuss.
– Meredith
My family doesn't like my boyfriend
Alpha dog: not just a Justin Timberlake movie.
Q: My brother has apparently struggled with substance abuse and depression for a number of years, and recently stopped trying to hide the worst of his troubles from us. 2010 has been challenging for everyone in my family, to say the very least. My boyfriend recently "reached out to him" against my wishes (Mere, on FACEBOOK CHAT nonetheless!) -- I knew my brother wouldn't take too well to it -- he's pretty private and he and my boyfriend are not close at all. Also, my boyfriend's a bit of a self-important social worker and I was afraid he'd reach out to make himself feel better, not to actually help my brother. My boyfriend's account was that the chat went well but he admitted that my reasoning behind asking him to not "reach out" by "relating his similar troubles" might have been true. I was a little peeved he'd actually done it, but ultimately felt OK with it.
I went home for a visit a few weeks ago and my brother and I talked about their chat. My brother politely said he didn't appreciate the "reaching out" but had played nice because he knows my boyfriend isn't a bad person. Then he began ranting about my boyfriend's alpha tendencies. Now, this is a part of my boyfriend's personality I don't like either -- it seems to be a situational thing, if you can believe me: setting up a tent site with a group, etc. Regardless, I haven't been able to get past the revelation that my family might actually dislike my boyfriend for the same reasons I think he's less than perfect. For most of my relationship with my boyfriend (3 years), my family has indicated that they liked him. I've shared the fights and the doubts and the drama that comes up occasionally, and early on my Dad suggested I not "close off any doors," but I've never gotten the feeling anyone had strong feelings about the matter. I really can't understand why this matters so much to me because my brother is an insufferable cynic, dates an at-times unpleasant person himself, and disappears from my family months at a time without apology. While I can't really envision letting their opinions influence my life to the extent I'd break up with someone (and not least of all with a caring, well-meaning if not misguided guy), this still hits me in an uncomfortable way. Nobody's perfect. Why should confirmation of that matter so much?
I'd like to move past this. We're going to my family's home for a weekend soon, and I'm really nervous. How do I resolve this?
– Maine Transplant, Maine
A: Like your brother (and you), MT, I'm a bit concerned about your boyfriend's alpha tendencies. It's one thing to get bossy in a group of people who are trying to set up a tent. It's another thing to take it upon yourself to contact your girlfriend's depressed/addict brother without your girlfriend's permission.
He can be a jerk all he wants when it comes to the little things, but when it comes to the important stuff, his desire to care for you as your equal and empathetic partner should be stronger than his desire to be a big shot. Your family loves you and wants to be sure that you come first. You want to be sure, too.
Right now you're not sure what your boyfriend is capable of. That's why you have that weird feeling in your tummy. He admitted that he might have behaved selfishly, but does he regret meddling and putting you in an uncomfortable position. Does he get it?
When you're sure that he gets it, in general, you'll care less about what your family thinks, and they'll probably get better vibes about the whole situation. You're uncomfortable because your family is a mirror. I know, super annoying, right?
Readers? Am I right to say the letter writer is uncomfortable because she fears her family might be right? Can a big-shot alpha ever learn to put others first? Is it possible the brother is expressing strong feelings because he’s also an alpha? Discuss.
Your bossy beta,
– Meredith
Can't let go of a recent ex
Interesting read in yesterday's magazine about Emily Dickinson's lover. It reminded me of one of my favorite Emily Dickinson poems, which is very Love Letters-ish.
Points to anyone who can find a Dickinson poem that matches the sentiment of this letter.
Q: Hello Meredith
I am a daily reader and a first time writer with a question about moving on. I have been divorced for seven years with teenage children, a great career, and what seems like a good-to-great life.
I am currently seeing a wonderful woman who is smart, caring, attractive, and has it together. We have been seeing each other for about five months. My problem is that back in September I broke off a relationship of a year and a half. The woman I was seeing was divorced with two children.
The relationship began rocky due to her having several personal and professional issues, which caused her above-average stress. But through it all, I was falling in love with her, and she with me. I loved this woman and felt loved like I had never felt in my life. So I stayed, and constantly supported her through a bad business-partnership breakup, repair and sale of a home, and several medical issues. Again, the love was real and pure.
Fast-forward a year-plus later, she began to talk marriage and engagement. I admit, this was not what I wanted at this point, but I agreed to living together. She was adamant about the engagement. I continued to say, “After your life is settled, we can revisit this, but I love you, and would like to be with you everyday and the rest of our lives.” Her children adored me and I treated them as if they were mine. We all spent a month traveling together last summer.
The relationship went down hill after that, with many small disagreements. Once there was a disagreement, she would shut down for days and not want to communicate. Well, after so much of this, I broke it off. My problem is, there was no closure, and I still think about her and in my heart, I truly love her. I know this has an affect on my new relationship. What do I do?
– Need to Move On, Andover
A: I don't believe in closure -- no such thing, NTMO -- but I do believe in reality checks. You need to reach out to your ex before you start turning her into something she wasn't.
When there's a nagging question messing up your life, I always recommend answering it. Seeing your ex (or just talking to her) will make it clear that the love is gone... or maybe you'll both decide that you miss the heck out of each other.
Do you have to tell current partner that you plan to chat with your ex? I'm not sure --because you've given me no indication of how committed you're supposed to be to this new woman. In fact, you really haven't told me anything about her. All you did was give me a vague list of her positive attributes. That's something to consider. You wrote two sentences about your new partner and about four paragraphs that suggest that you believe your break-up with your ex was more about frustration and over-reaction than loss of love.
Know that no matter what happens with the ex, you should consider whether you can rally for this new woman. You seem "good-to-great" – as opposed to excited-to-ecstatic – about her place in your life. If you knew your ex was gone for good, would you be any more excited about this new woman? Five months of thinking about someone else means it's time to consider whether you're wasting her time. Get these questions answered pronto.
Readers? Did he start dating too soon after the ex? Can he be interested in this new woman and stuck on the ex at the same time? How can he move on? Am I wrong to suggest that he should reach out to the ex? What would a reclusive poet in Amherst say about this? Help.
– Meredith
Love in the Middle East
Finally Friday. And for the record, I don't think "playing in the park" is a euphemism.
Q: Dear Meredith,
First, I've been a reader of your blog for more than a year now. Ironically, I started reading only after I left Boston and encountered some relationship trouble (a little more on this later), but I have used Boston.com to keep up to date on the happenings in my hometown.
In January I met a wonderful and beautiful woman. She was a friend of a friend who had moved here on an exchange program from Israel. When we first met we seemed to hit it off immediately. It wasn't long until I found a reason to see her again, and even though we spent that whole night talking alone in the corner of a party, she sent some mixed signals (I tried to move a bit closer to her, and she told me to "get away" because she needed space). I then entered a busy part of my life, and didn't see her for a few months.
In March, two-and-a-half months after our initial meeting, we again ran into each other at a gathering of friends. We again spent most of the night talking, and she again sent mixed signals. During our conversation, she told me how she wasn't really happy here, and that instead of leaving in September as planned, she would be heading back to Israel in three weeks. At the end of the night I found an excuse to walk her home, and feeling like I had nothing to lose, I kissed her as we passed through a park on the way to her house. She reciprocated, and we spent many more hours talking and playing in the park until it was time for breakfast the next day.
I figured that we would just enjoy each other's company for three weeks, and then life would return to normal. We spent as much time together as much as possible over the next few weeks. We learned that we shared the same views on politics, philosophy, art, culture, and family. I had never felt so connected to someone, and had never been able to be so honest and forthright with a romantic partner. It had only been three weeks, but this was the first time I felt balance between me and the other in a relationship. It is safe to say I fell in love with her very quickly, something that I do not normally do.
Now to the problem: She has been home in Israel for a little over a month now and things are anything but normal. We both miss each other deeply and feel that our connection was unique, but we are both really cautious about drawing conclusions based on only three weeks of experience with each other. We have Skype dates frequently, and it is the highlight of my day when I can talk with her. Neither one of us wanted a long distance relationship. Personally I've tried long distance twice, and each time I sacrificed greatly to be with the other person, only to have the relationship end with the other person cheating.
To put our current situation into a wider context, I am 26 years old and a graduate student. I have five more years at my current location, with no option to move elsewhere during that period. She is 24 and an undergraduate in art school in her final year of study. She has duel citizenship, and could move here afterward should she want to. She has no definite plans after she graduates; she well may want another degree (possibly from outside Israel) but that decision might be far away.
So what can we do? We've talked, and we both feel a bit stuck. It seems crazy to think that we can maintain a relationship from a distance after only three weeks of togetherness. Neither one of us wants anything exclusive from this distance and don't think this is an option. At the same time, it seems crazy to be talking so frequently and not admit that there are deep feelings between us. One of us would be hurt if the other moved on. Yet, how can a relationship like this, even if it moves toward friendship, develop when we never see each other? Are we setting ourselves up for heartbreak?
I hope you can help!
– Wrong Side of the Pond
A: WSOTP, I'd wait until about two months before she graduates and decide whether you still have the hots for each other. If you do, ask her to move. Why not?
Yes, moving to a country she didn't like the first time around would be a risk, and it would certainly put a great deal of pressure on you, but I don't see any other way this could work. She's at the exact right age to take a big leap with questionable consequences. If she's not up for joining you and getting a degree in the US, well, there's your answer. No mixed signals there.
Until then, Skype your brains out if you want to. And maybe book a nice trip to visit the Middle East over a break. (Expensive, but what's a little more debt on top of student loans?)
You're asking me for a solution but it's too early to give you one. Just do what comes naturally -- calling or not calling, dating others or staying true to your Skype relationship -- until a real decision can be made. This is love in the time of grad school. It's annoying. It's transient. But it is what it is. You just have to wait it out.
Readers? Any reason the letter writer is telling us about those initial mixed signals? Is it worth keeping in touch when they're stuck in different places? Thoughts on love after three weeks? Is it easier to fall when you know there's a way out?
– Meredith
Cleaning the mess
Good morning.
I love it when we get "My boyfriend doesn't clean!" letters. I'm still waiting for my first "My girlfriend doesn't clean!" letter. Maybe someday ...
Q: Hi Meredith:
I've been dating my boyfriend for a little over three years and it's been great (I'm 30 and he's 32). We moved in together last August into a condo we both really liked and he immediately purchased. We've never lived together before so it was exciting in the beginning, working together to decorate the interior and create a space that is all our own. Our relationship in a nutshell is Jack Sprat -- he's the Ying to my Yang. I'm all over the place, extremely creative, love to learn new things, volunteer, run, and play sports while he's a little more introverted, likes to stay home, think things through, and has a good head on his shoulders. We're both alike in that we enjoy playing and watching sports, eating out, and playing with our newly rescued dog!
I'm pretty handy around the house and try to be clean /organized but it's really not something I enjoy so I often request my BF's help. He's reluctant to help and prefers watching sports (GO CELTICS) or playing online poker or basically anything else. I get it, but it doesn't help when I'm doing most all the cleaning and he's sitting around not helping. So I end up waiting, and then nagging, and nagging some more until he gets it. I don't want to nag, but I feel like if I don't, it really will never get done or I'll be so disgusted I'll do it myself and then harbor feelings of resentment.
He has a list of places he's supposed to keep clean but he doesn't follow through with it. I've also threatened charging him hourly to clean up the place but that hasn't worked either. I feel like we go through a cycle, every couple of months I get to the end of my rope and am fed up and then we have a fight about it and make up with him apologizing and promising he'll keep it clean. I feel like he's reactive and I'm proactive about cleaning the house. I really don't want to play this nagging mother role but I don't know what else to do. I want our relationship to be what it was, Boyfriend/Girlfriend. Can you help to offer advise on how to make cleaning/organizing the house a team effort?
– Clean House, Watertown
A: First of all, CH, your relationship isn't what it was. Vacationing in Bermuda is one thing. Living in Bermuda and paying an electric bill there is another. As soon as something becomes your daily reality, it's different -- for better or worse.
You mentioned that he has a list of places he's supposed to clean. You have to get more specific than that. Cleaning the living room probably means something different to him than it does to you. You might have to say, "Swiffer floor, dust shelves, wipe coffee table …" Don't assume he knows the specifics.
Also, cleaning isn't everything. It's just one part of maintaining a happy home. Some people are terrible at cleaning but bring other good things to a living situation. Perhaps he's the one who makes sure the bills are paid on time. Perhaps he's the one who remembers to set the DVR to tape your favorite shows. Before you go into crazy resentment mode, take time to consider all of the things he does to improve your living arrangement and decide whether the cleaning actually does have to be 50-50.
You mentioned in one of the first lines of your letter that your boyfriend bought this condo. It's worth talking to him about whether that ownership makes him feel entitled to do what he wants, when he wants. Maybe he's not as stressed about the cleaning because it's his place. It's important to remind him that even though the condo is in his name, you're his partner in this living situation.
Readers? Anything I missed? Am I jumping to conclusions about the condo ownership? What do people bring to a living situation besides the ability to clean? Will she ever feel "Boyfriend/Girlfriend" about her relationship again? Discuss. And thank you for putting up with my kidney during yesterday's chat.
– Meredith
She's a 10
Chat at 1.
Q: Dedicated reader and first time writer here with a quandary of sizeable proportions. This problem may have been discussed before, and if it has, please accept my sincerest apologies.
I can't help thinking about my situation as it is somewhat analogous to a movie that came out in March that had a tag line of "How can a 10 go for a 5?" For those who don't know what movie that's from, and if searching IMDB is inconvenient at the moment, I will cut to the chase. It is from "She's Out of My League." The title is unequivocal but for those who want a brief synopsis, it is about a young gentleman of moderate attractiveness with a less than prestigious job (but of significant importance) with animated friends and family who comes across a stunning, intelligent, empathetic, and ambitious woman who defies convention by showing interest in said gentleman who at least on paper, is well out of her league.
Here is my situation as I think parallels the movie. I am in my mid-20s, master's level educated, attractive (as others would say), employed, and an easy going male with a severe lack of self-esteem that has contributed to other issues for which I am currently seeking help. So it is a beautiful weekend several weeks back and I am strolling down a street often described as pretentious when a beautiful girl walks beside me and compliments me. I am stunned by A. her beauty, B. her confidence, and C. my uncomfortable feelings. We talked briefly and I was getting a little nervous so we exchanged numbers. I told her we would hang out soon, and I was back on the path to my destination. While walking to my destination I kept thinking about past experiences where this type of interaction had previously occurred and my reasons (self-esteem issues) for rarely mirroring the interest. Because I had been advised to take some risks, I decided to pursue.
Enter the DeLorean and fast-forward a few weeks. Interest and I meet, drink nonalcoholic beverages and talk. Talk a little more and laugh. Prior to the meeting I already know she is attractive and has extreme confidence, but while talking I learn she went to an extremely prestigious school and studied an extremely challenging subject and has the genes of an entertainment mogul. She is very empathetic, compassionate, culturally sensitive, inquisitive, intelligent, eloquent, and holds eclectic interests. She learns that I come from a less prestigious school and hold a less than prestigious job (but of significant importance) and picked up on other aspects of me that I have a difficult time seeing. At the end of the night I got to see her dwelling and we shared in a passionate exchange of saliva.
In total, considering her qualities and personality, she is a 10 in both my eyes and I am sure in the eyes of others. In total, considering my qualities and personality, I rate myself as a 3.14159. I know she likes me. In fact, I think she likes me a lot and I like her too, but I feel like there is no way I can compete in her league. We have plans to meet up again but I am ambivalent as to what to make of this as the apparent difference in scale rating scares me from continuing to pursue.
I know a large part of the problem is my self-esteem issues but the difference in leagues is apparent. Should I pursue and continue being myself and see what happens irrespective of embarrassing myself? Stop pursuing? Just friends? Rent and watch "She's Out of My League" to show her that she is out of my league? Advance my therapy in correcting my self-esteem.
– Wishing To Be In the Big Leagues, Boston
A: WTBITBL, reasons you might be a 10 in her eyes:
You are capable of making a joke involving pi.
You used the word "unequivocal."
You have low self-esteem so you work your behind off to stay interesting.
Beauty, brains, job, degree -- those are all important things. But her "Perfect 10" list might prioritize humor, the ability to listen, self-awareness, and aptitude for sharing saliva. Perhaps you score high when it comes to those things.
You're not "competing in her league." This isn't a competition. People usually look for someone who will balance them, make them feel secure, and care for them. Good partnerships don't involve rankings.
I get that you have a self-esteem problem, and to be honest, once you have one, it's difficult to train yourself to ignore the self-doubt. And that's why I'm not asking you to get super confident. You're you, a guy who second-guesses. That's fine. I'm just asking you not to self-sabotage.
I haven't seen "She's Out of My League," but I can guess the ending. It's probably the same ending as "There's Something About Mary," "Superbad" and all the other films about really cool guys who feel outclassed by a "10." Moral of the stories: stay funny. Humor wins out over everything. Justin Timberlake was a 9 in my book until he dressed up like an omelet on "Saturday Night Live." He gained a full point by wearing an egg costume. That's all it took. Think about that every time you wonder what it means to be a good catch.
Readers? Some people just can't stop thinking about how they're not good enough. Any tips for controlling anxiety related to self-esteem? How can he focus on what he has as opposed to what he lacks? Anyone out there suffer from self-doubt that leads to self-sabotage? Discuss.
– Meredith
Her family is full of hate
Good morning. Go Celtics.
Q: Hi Meredith, I have a difficult situation regarding my girlfriend.
We met nine months ago, and everything has been great. Our personalities click, we enjoy similar activities, and our friends and (my) family think we're a great match. There is only one problem: her family.
Her parents disowned her a couple years ago because they are members of a church that opposes many groups – gays, lesbians, etc. My girlfriend was raised to hate a lot of people in this world, but by the time she got to college, she began to change her views and now disagrees with most of the church's beliefs (she is no longer a member). Her parents were furious about this and disowned her. So did her brainwashed siblings. Now I know there are two sides to every story, but my girlfriend's friends have told me similar stories about how sick the parents were in terms of their beliefs, and how they brainwashed their kids to hate almost every ethnicity and minority group in the world.
My girlfriend moved hundreds of miles away to Boston two years ago for a fresh start. Even though my girlfriend grew up in an environment of hate, she is now an amazing young woman in her mid-20s who loves instead of hates. If you met her at a party you would instantly want her as a friend and you would never guess the environment she grew up in. We even have friends who are gay!
So what's the problem? Well, despite the religious differences, my girlfriend still somewhat misses her parents. She would like to patch things up with them so they can have a relationship in the future. However the parents don't want anything to do with her unless she rejoins the church and lives by their beliefs. Now I'm not a controlling person, but if I were to marry my girlfriend and have kids, I really don't want her parents to have anything to do with us. I'm half Jewish and they would never approve. I wouldn't want my kids to hear anything about their hatred. The thought of her parents meeting my loving parents makes me cringe.
So what happens if in one, two, or 10 years her parents suddenly decide they miss their daughter and want to start a relationship with her again? In that scenario, I think I would be willing to meet the parents so I can see in person if they're really as bad as everyone says, but if I hear any bigotry from them I would never talk to them again and it would probably be hard to continue a relationship with my girlfriend.
What advice would you give me Meredith?
– Dealing with Bigotry 101, Somerville
A: DWB101, my first piece of advice is to trust your girlfriend. She misses her parents -- she's human, after all -- but at the end of the day, she moved hundreds of miles to escape them and has done everything in her power to live by her own value system. Frankly, I'm not so sure that there's any chance of her parents regaining control of her life or influencing your kids if the two of you happen to procreate.
Based on what you've shared, your girlfriend wants no part of that church, and she wouldn't want to be involved with her parents other than to see them on occasion in safe spaces, to catch up on family, and know that if she called for a quick hello, they would answer. Based on your letter, my guess is that if they demanded anything more from her, she'd accept the loss of family.
You're her family now, or at the very least, you want to be. You can explain your fears and set some boundaries with her. You can tell her that you wouldn't want your kids to be alone with grandparents who hate all the things you love. You can explain your comfort zone. You can also ask her about her comfort zone and find out where she'd set boundaries.
I wouldn't be surprised if her boundaries are similar to yours. That's why she lives miles and miles away. That's why she has embraced your family. My advice is to continue to communicate so that you can navigate this issue together.
My guess is that she's going to wind up reaching out only to be disappointed by her family. Good thing you'll be there to love (as opposed to hate) when she needs help getting through it.
Readers? Is there something I'm missing? Am I underestimating the power of her parents if they reconnect with their daughter? Would you even consider meeting her family if you believed they spread hate? Should he be worried about children even though they've only been dating for nine months? What advice can you give? Talk.
– Meredith
Should I send him off?
Iced coffee, Love Letters, GChat, then breakfast Skittles.
Q: Hi Meredith -
First off, I've been an avid follower of your column since last summer. My day often starts off with an iced coffee and a GChat message from my friend down the hall asking if I've yet read today's Love Letter.
So, let me cut to the chase. I'm a single, 25-year-old gay male. I have a good job, great friends, and an active dating life. I’ve definitely had my fair share of discouraging dating situations, but at the end of the day, I know that I’m young, and try to be as realistic as possible in terms of the trials and tribulations of singledom, so to speak.
Recently, I went on two great successive dates with this guy. He’s smart, funny, successful, ruggedly handsome, earthy-crunchy, etc. Here’s the dilemma: he’s moving across the country. I knew he was moving before our dates, but I didn’t see the harm in getting together. I didn’t expect, however, to make such a strong connection with him. Now, he has invited me to join him for a leg of his cross-country excursion. A huge part of me thinks that it’s totally crazy, but another part of me wants to embrace some type of cliché motto, i.e. “you only live once” or “carpe diem.” I mean, is there really any harm in joining him if he wants company?
Also, for a little background, I’ve only had one serious boyfriend before. We started dating in college, and continued dating after graduation, although he lived in New York and I lived in Boston. Ultimately, we broke up, mostly because of distance, and since then I’ve been of the mindset that long-distance relationships never work. So, with that said, am I totally crazy to travel with this guy? At this point in my life, I’m ready for a real, meaningful relationship, and given my history, am afraid of having long distance "convenience" relationships be a pattern of mine. Am I overthinking this?
– Single in Somerville
A: First off, thank you, SIS. My day also starts with iced coffee and some GChatting about Love Letters. I'm self-centered like that.
I'd go on the trip, assuming you feel safe alone with him. I'm not promising that the drive will be so fantastic that he'll turn the car around and shout, "You're too good to leave!" But I do think that time in a crowded vehicle will clarify whether he's worth keeping as a long-distance "friend." Maybe he'll turn out to be annoying in large doses.
I'm not a fan of long-distance relationships, but I am a fan of keeping in touch with someone who has potential. This thing is new enough that you can take the ride and find out whether you like him more (or less) without putting too much on the line. Maybe you'll eventually settle in the same place. Maybe you'll become close friends. Maybe you'll date a bit until one of you wants to move. At the very least, you'll get a story out of it -- "The time I drove across the country with a ruggedly handsome man who became a movie star on the West Coast." (In my fantasy, he's an aspiring actor moving to Los Angeles.)
I know you're trying to protect yourself from getting attached to someone who's leaving, and from having a long-distance relationship that's all too casual, but don't jump to conclusions. You're young. You're looking for new experiences. I give you permission to gas up the car.
Readers? Am I wrong? Should he plan to motor west? If not, why? Discuss.
– Meredith
Is there any reason to stay?
A "Mortified" ticket winner was chosen. I sent the entries to one of the "Mortified" producers and let her pick her favorite. Thanks to everyone who entered.
Reading yesterday's comments I was thinking … remember empathy. I'm not scolding, and tough love is welcomed on Love Letters … just make it tough and helpful love.
I think "Tough and Helpful Love" will be the first single on the first Love Letters album. Second album: "Grilled Cheese: The Remixes."
This one is obvious, but talk her through it. Again, empathy. Remember that it's not so easy when you're the one in the middle of it.
Q: I have been with my current boyfriend for over a year now. We just went through a really nasty break-up and then decided to give it one more try. I fought so hard to try to have us make it work, and now I am just wondering if I am just scared to be alone.
This relationship has been a tumultuous one. I ended a three year relationship to start seeing him, and we also have an 11 year age difference (I am 24, he is 35). He is also still married, but in the middle of getting a divorce. Without getting into too many details, the marriage ended because he doesn't want a family. I do. It's hard to feel like this doesn't automatically doom us. He has made it clear that right now, he does not want kids, and while that may change in the future, he would only want one. This is an area I am not willing to compromise in. I know I want a big family. I know I would never be fulfilled in life if I didn't. He let me know his wishes from the beginning and I jumped in knowing this and accepting that the relationship may end because of it. He did the same knowing what I want as well.
There have been lots of other problems. The first month of our relationship was basically him figuring out if he wanted to be with me or with another girl he started seeing when he and his ex separated. Then it was about remaining friends with her, which I was very against. I never made him choose between us, but he knew how much it bothered me. He finally realized that she wasn't worth it and was wasting his time, and tried to make it work with me. There were a couple other incidents involving his ex that he blamed on his guilt over how things ended, which I understood because there is a lot more to that story. We fight constantly and constantly get caught up in past events that make us not trust each other. We are trying really hard to gain that trust back.
When things are good, they are amazing. We get along perfectly, we have the same sense of humor, and he is the first person who will tell me I am beautiful, and I really believe he means it. We have so much in common -- way more than I have had with anyone else I dated. So I guess my question is -- am I wasting my time? We fight so often that it makes me wonder if this is all worth fighting for anymore, and that we are just too different.
I know how clear cut this sounds, but I love him very, very much. He is a very good person and his intentions are good, he has just had a lot of misfortune in his life. I have not been an angel to him either, and he still wants to try and work things out with me. I just wonder how much time I should put into this and if I am building a future with him that doesn't exist.
– Bummed in Beantown
A: BIB, just because you love a guy doesn't mean you have to stay in a relationship with him.
"He has made it clear that right now, he does not want kids, and while that may change in the future, he would only want one. This is an area I am not willing to compromise in. I know I want a big family."
I mean, there you go. The end. I didn't even have to get to the part about the fighting and the cheating. I was done before I even knew that stuff. You want different things. You're on different paths. Sorry.
Don't feel like you've wasted time with him. It has been a tremendous learning experience, and you get to walk away feeling beautiful.
You're scared to be alone and to let go of someone who cares about you. That's pretty normal. But now is the time to start looking for someone who shares your goals. You sound ready for the next step. You might be more ready than he is, so this break-up might have to come from you.
Readers? Is there any reason for her to stay? Any words of wisdom about letting go? What does her age have to do with her problem? Think he'll change his mind about family if she decides to leave? Discuss.
– Meredith
Rules of the pick-up game
It's giveaway Wednesday.
Remember Mortified? We did a party with them back in February. Anyway, they'd like a Love Letters reader to have two tickets to their Friday show. It's people reading from their old diaries, and it's very, very funny. A good way to close out the week. If you want the tix, e-mail me a line or two about something that recently had you mortified. I'm at meregoldstein at gmail dot com. Put "Mortified" in the subject line.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I have a problem regarding a post-breakup situation. I dated a man twice over the past six years, both times ending in heartache and disappointment. The first breakup ended because he was cheating with a few other people who I always assumed were just his friends. To add insult to injury, he told me the reason he cheated was because, "I'm not good enough for him, and never would be." We worked together (same building, not same company) and seeing him on a daily basis with one of his many new girlfriends was just unbearable. Eventually, I made the decision to move to the West Coast for medical school just to get away.
Fast forward two years (of NO contact might I add) he shows up out nowhere and tells me how sorry he is for the things he's done. (And when I say "shows up," I mean that literally. He came out to the West Coast). I was extremely suspicious, but he kept telling me he wouldn't have gone through all this effort for just a fling. Still, I was cautious, and took things slowly. I went back to Boston that summer for a medicine-related internship, and things were great. He seemed as though he really had changed. But since I still lived on the West Coast, things were strained. I started to feel it too, but I just couldn't bring myself to leave my medical school. He kept pressuring me, which eventually turned into threatening me; if I didn't come back, he was bound to cheat. I was so enamored that I just ignored this red flag and finally, after about eight months of him pushing me, I went to discuss things with my dean.
I transferred to a Boston-area school and gave up a number of really important friendships from out west, in addition to a hospital I loved. As I was going through the transfer process, he started to become more distant. He continued to tell me he wanted me to move back and he loved me, so I attributed his behavior to stress. Well, you can guess what happened -- about three weeks went by when I hadn't heard from him, and when I finally got him on the phone he tells me, "Well, I'm kind of seeing someone else." My response was, "Uh, I didn't know we'd broken up?"
It was a complete nightmare. I was moving back to Boston the following week. I don't think there are words to describe how I felt. It has been EXTREMELY hard for me not only because we broke up, but because I originally left Boston BECAUSE of him, and I felt as though I was just right back where I started.
Ok, sorry for all the background, but it's important, I think. Now to my question. We both used to play on a pick-up sports team in Boston, and I've actually become very close to these people since I moved back. I would say they are my closest friends in Boston. Recently, my ex has been attending these pick-up sessions (with his new 23-year-old girlfriend .... he's almost 40), though he hasn't played with these people for over a year. Furthermore, he doesn't even really play when he shows up, they just sit there watching or do things on their own. He might jump in once or twice, but we play for probably five to six hours at a time. Is it wrong for me to be angry that he's just showing up out of the blue like this? Especially when he still knows how much he hurt me, and how much I sacrificed for him? I guess what I'm asking is, do I have the right to be angry he's there?
– Pick-up trouble, Boston
I asked PUT who joined the pick-up team first. She said the ex. Which is why I have to say …
A: PUT, we live in a world of dibs. Unfortunately, your ex has dibs on this team. He joined first. Yes, you're allowed to be furious that he's showing up to games with his trophy girlfriend, but you're not allowed to ask him to disappear. Dibs. He's got 'em.
My advice is to keep playing on the team, and see if you can make plans with these people socially, outside of the activity. The more you see them on your own time, the more they'll become yours. And really, the more they see him sitting on the grass, twiddling his thumbs, and not participating, the more these people will understand what he is -- a guy who does whatever he wants without regard for others.
I'd also recommend joining a few other, unrelated activities. I don't like that the one escape you have from your work life is tied to your ex. You need to see Boston as your place. You're making a fresh start here without him, so you need new scenery and new friends. You need change. Is there a pick-up league on the other side of town?
Readers? Am I right about the dibs? Can she ask him to scram? How can she get comfortable with Boston the second time around? Should she attempt to move back to the West Coast? Is this guy showing up to get her attention? Discuss.
– Meredith
Moving on from a bad experience
Great letter yesterday. I pretty much thought about it all night.
Anybody ever been to Columbus?
Q: Ten years ago, I went through a rough patch when I discovered that my boyfriend was cheating on me with a married friend of mine. I was angry and humiliated, but I managed to let it go. I moved on with my life and went to law school. The three others involved in this nastiness (my ex-boyfriend, my ex-friend, and her now ex-husband) did pretty much the same thing. The four of us all stayed in the same town, and I would see them often. At first I hated them, but eventually I began to tolerate them, then I felt a grudging respect for them and finally a certain fondness. Ten years, after all, is a long time to be mean and angry.
The problem is this: In the past two years these three people have gotten married and had babies, they’re all very close and friendly, and their families spend a lot of time together. I have not had a serious relationship in 10 years, though -- not, however, for lack of trying. Over the past 10 years I’ve been on countless dates and had several short, ugly relationships. One of these awful guys was physically abusive, one disappeared suddenly, one married a stripper, and one had a secret wife and baby in another city. Anyway, I’m no longer dating.
My problem is that when my ex-boyfriend, my ex-best friend, and her ex-husband all got married and had babies, my furious, angry rage of 10 years ago returned, only much, much worse. The sight of these people made me physically ill. When I was 30 I felt hurt and sad and embarrassed, but also relieved to be free of a man who was (let's be honest) a jerk. At the time I believed that someone better would come along, but now I'm not so sure. I’m 40 and I haven't been on a date in almost three years. Three months ago I was offered a job in a different city in another state, so I grabbed that opportunity, packed up everything, and left town.
So here I am starting over again at age 40. I'm trying to get some perspective on what’s happened, I'd like to find peace or at least some understanding. I would also like my life to be different. Moving is a start, but I'm wary of just repeating the same old mistakes but in a different zip code. Do you have any advice?
– Beatrice, Columbus, Ohio
A: We had a reader who recently mentioned that her problem was "two-pronged." I'd like to come up with a three-pronged plan for you, B. I love prongs.
Prong 1: The therapy prong. My favorite prong. I'm not blaming you for dating a string of awful men, but I do want you to sit down with someone and discuss whether you could have exited these relationships earlier than you did. Is there a way to better spot the bad so you can leave before it gets very bad? What did you learn from these relationships? How are they tied to one another? How can you move past them?
Prong 2: The dating/friend prong. You haven't been on a date in three years, and now it has become a "thing." An "I don’t date" thing. The longer you go without dating, the scarier it's going to be when you start up again. I like the idea of online dating in your situation because it gives you some control, and because as soon as you get a bad vibe or notice that someone's in-person story doesn't match their profile, you can bail and start over with the browsing. It's also something to do and a good way to get to know a new city. Consider it an exercise in confidence-building. As for friends, they are so instrumental in the dating experience. I don't care if you haven't made friends in Columbus yet. Call your old law school friends and use them as sounding boards as you date. They have your best interest in mind and will be the first to come to your aid if something seems off. If you don't have a group of friends for this, getting one should be your priority. Join a professionals group. Join a bike club. Join something that helps you meet people who can be your support system.
Prong 3. The happy prong. George Herbert once said that "living well is the best revenge." Easy for him to say. He was a priest. And back in his day, people only lived to be about 40. But he does have a point. All you can do is enjoy yourself and not make any assumptions about the lives of the trio of people who messed up your life a decade ago. Don't assume that their lives are any more perfect than yours. Don't assume that you know what their marriages are like behind closed doors. Focus on figuring out all the things you can do that will make you laugh throughout the day. Focus on your new home. Your anger is justified, but it isn't a good use of your energy. You have a new life in a new city. I bet they're pretty jealous.
Readers? Any more prongs for Beatrice? Are my prongs the right prongs? Did she simply suppress her anger and now it’s back to haunt her? Discuss.
– Meredith
Race and dating in Boston
I had such a great time on Friday at the Love Letters/Extra Bases party. Thanks to everyone who came out to play. It was great/weird/awesome meeting so many readers. I even met a few letter writers who showed up to say hello. We'll start planning another event soon.
And sorry I accidentally wore Orioles colors to the party. It was unintentional, I swear.
This one's about the crayon box.
Q: I am a young, black, college-educated professional who has lived in Boston for most of my life. I recently turned 30 and am ready to have a serious relationship with someone special, irrespective of race.
I have dated a few Caucasian and Asian men, and one person from the Middle East. Every one of these encounters ended immediately after they realized that I was expecting more than a sexual relationship (I usually ended it). However, getting to that point was only half the battle. The hardest part was the approach! I think a lot of surprisingly wonderful relationships could be had if people weren't afraid to step inside or outside of the "crayon box." There have been many instances where I'll overhear a white guy telling his friends how "hot" he thinks I am or after having way too many beers obnoxiously yell "I love Black chicks!" Not including the annoying drunk guy -- why won't non-black men approach me if there is physical interest?
And before anyone asks ... yes, I date black men. Almost all of my relationships, serious or otherwise, have been within my race. However, I've always been open to dating men outside of my race. And due to the reasons previously mentioned, have been unable to do so.
Now back to the second portion of the problem I mentioned earlier. When we get past the "approach" barrier, I then find out that these men were hoping to use me as some sexual guinea pig. I've even had one guy tell me that he has a girlfriend but has "always wondered what it would be like to sleep with a pretty black girl." Needless to say, he did not get the chance to conduct his experiment on me. My other encounters were almost as disappointing. I've really clicked with several guys. Had great phone conversations and shared mutual interest in various areas. We'd make each other laugh, talk about work, life goals, family, friends, hobbies, etc ... BUT, the conversation would always redirect back to sex. And when making plans to hang out, it always involved hooking up at one another's home. After realizing that I wanted more than to be their guilty pleasure, I would end it. I've had white male friends who I get along with great as friends. Then they would profess some secret crush they had on me over the years. They were apprehensive in pursuing a serious relationship and were more than happy to think we could be friends with benefits. There was never a problem with meeting their friends and family -- or being introduced as their good friend. Being introduced or even thought of as their girlfriend, however, was an issue.
I'm left to wonder if non-black men still hold some pre-conceived notion about the ENTIRE species of black women. It escapes me as to why black men are able to easily, quickly, and openly approach and date women outside of their race, yet it's so difficult and rare for non-black men to do the same with black women. When I go to NY, it's very common to see mixed race relationships involving black women. But, I almost never see that here in MA. Is it a geographical thing? Is Massachusetts just as conservative when it comes to dating? Why are non-black men afraid to approach black women that they are attracted to? Are we seen as nothing more than "angry black women"....or even sex-crazed video vixens waiting to fulfill some secret chocolate craving?
– Cheyenne not Shaniqua, Randolph
A: "When I go to NY, it's very common to see mixed race relationships involving black women." CNS, I see a lot of things in New York that I just don't see anywhere else. New York is pretty amazing when it comes to diversity, acceptance, and dating without boundaries. New York also has all-night public transportation and cheap cabs. It's the concrete jungle where dreams are made of. There's nothing you can't do. Compare any city to New York and you're in trouble. (That said, Go Sox!)
There will always be a lot of people who are only comfortable dating within their race, religion, or tax bracket, no matter where you live. Some of those people are very nice despite their boundaries. There will also be some real idiots out there who see dating outside of the "crayon box" as some sort of exciting science project. Luckily, those people tend to expose themselves pretty quickly by getting drunk and yelling things like, "I love black chicks!" I'm sorry that has happened to you. It's upsetting and disheartening.
There will also be people who share your goal of finding someone awesome, no matter what color they are or where they come from. They're out there. Some of those men might be scared to approach you, but that might not have anything to do with race. Some men are afraid of the approach, in general.
I'd add that a lot of your other dating issues -- especially the sex stuff -- are also pretty typical. Guys who seek friends with benefits, guys who fixate on the hookup portion of a date -- that's all typical Love Letters stuff, isn't it? I'm not saying that you're wrong about the "crayon box," but don't attribute more to race than you have to.
My advice is to keep dating, approach men who appeal to you, be clear about your intentions, and get to know people well. Someone who cares about you, understands your goals, and has earned your trust isn't going to want to use you as an experiment or a friend with benefits.
Readers? Is this a Massachusetts thing? How can she approach men outside of her "crayon box" without having to wonder whether they're taking her seriously? Is race as much of an issue as she thinks it is? Discuss.
– Meredith
I cheat to break up
Looking forward to seeing everyone tonight. I'll be wearing a dress that is somewhat orange.
I've been getting some e-mails from people who didn't RSVP in time. My advice: there's a bar upstairs at Game On!. I assume the party will float up and all around, so please come and seat yourself upstairs and the party will find you.
Also, for those who did RSVP, food will be passed earlier than later, so get yourself moving if you want those free apps.
And really, who doesn't want free apps?
Today's letter will give us all something to talk about tonight.
Q: Hi Meredith,
Love, love your advice. Been an avid reader for over a year now. I never miss a column.
Maybe you can help me with this ridiculous situation that I have put myself in.
I'm 30, I've been with my bf Mike, 33, for a year and a half now. We moved in together last fall when he got a house. When we first started seeing each other I couldn't believe how much I liked him. I never had any intention of dating him. He had tried to pursue me before and I blew him off. Well finally I gave him a chance and I couldn't have been happier that I did. I've never had so much fun or felt so loved in such a short amount of time. I literally did everything with him. I even disappeared from my friends and family for a few months, which, let me tell you, didn't go over very well. In the beginning we had our ups and downs, though. Sometimes he would disappear and not tell me where he was. If we fought, he would say mean things to me like I ruin all his fun and I never let him do anything. Meanwhile, he never wants me to do anything without him! And there was also his ex factor, someone he couldn't break ties with at first. I almost broke up with him twice because of it. But as far as I know that doesn’t exist anymore. And part of me doesn't really care now anyway. Sounds like I'm becoming desensitized, huh? But that's the least of my problems.
Fast forward to now. Here we are, 1.5 years later, and even though he tells me a million times a day that he loves me, there is no affection. We are hardly ever intimate, maybe once a month, if that. I'm a very sexual person and I count the days because being intimate is very important to me. I've mentioned this to him before and he always steps up at first but then it just goes back to being the way it was. He’s constantly in a bad mood when he comes home from work. He's less mean then he used to be, but there are still times when he tells me to shut up, that he doesn't want to listen to me. All in all, I've been finding myself very unhappy recently. Even so much to the point that I've actually cheated on him. And not once, like four times with the same person. And I can't guarantee that it's not going to happen again. This person that I've been cheating with is someone I've known for years. We kind of had a friends-with-benefits relationship like once a year for the past few years, until I got together with my bf. It was fine to not have any contact with him since it was never anything serious. Basically I would see him out at a bar randomly and then we would hook up. And it's pretty much how this happened as well, except now there’s planning involved. I've been sneaking around behind my bf's back. And I know that I should feel guilty, but I don’t. Well I do a little, but not as much as I should. I don't get anything else from my friend-with-benefits besides affection, as in there's no real feelings. Besides, I know that I am just trying to make up for what is lacking in my relationship. I've cheated before, but it was always a way to make myself break up with someone that I didn't want to be with any longer. I have a really hard time just walking away, so cheating always made it easy. I cheated. I had to breakup because I couldn't be dishonest.
But what about now? I don't want to breakup with my bf. Why am I doing this?? I definitely love him more than I've ever loved anyone else and that hasn't changed for me. I can’t imagine my life without him. I keep trying to tell him that I'm not getting what I need from him and he isn't listening. Also, I can't even say anything to him without it turning into a fight. It's so frustrating. I could never suggest therapy, and I'm not even sure that I'd be ok with that. So please, any other advice you could send my way would be so appreciated.
– Love Starved, Boston
A: Let's say I told you that you could never seek physical intimacy outside of your relationship. Pretend that you live in an alternate reality where if you attempted to cheat, you'd be struck by lightening or tasered. Would you want to stay in your relationship knowing you could never get the intimacy you craved? My guess is that you'd probably choose to start over and find someone who meets your needs. If you want an exclusive relationship, starting over is your best option.
Honestly, even if intimacy wasn't an issue, I'd tell you to consider whether this guy is who you want in the long run. He allowed you to ditch your friends and family. He has told you to shut up.
You're not a liner-upper. You're a cheat-to-break-upper (can someone coin a better term than that?). This whole cheating thing is not the right way to end a relationship. By pretending that your dishonesty is what caused the break-up, you're preventing your partners from learning what they did to drive you away.
You need to learn how to leave a relationship when it's best for you without having a human bridge to get you to the next step. You also have to learn to be honest with yourself. "I definitely love him more than I've ever loved anyone else and that hasn't changed for me." Um, yes it has. It has changed big time.
Breaking up is never easy. Usually, people still care for the person they've decided to ditch. My advice: stop the cheating. Don't take the easy way out. It's time to break up like a grown-up.
Readers? What's going on here? Does she want to be with this guy? Why does she cheat to break up? Advice? What are you wearing tonight? Discuss.
– Meredith
Living with his parents
Meeting the parents ... then living with them.
Q: OK, so I'm 37 years old and in my first real relationship ever. We've been together for just over seven months. I had always figured that I would be alone forever -- just a crazy old cat lady. Before this, I had one crazy "hook up" night in college, one guy I dated for like a month, and one other date. But I am crazy about this guy. I've never felt like this before. No one else has ever made me feel wanted and needed like this.
Here's the problem: he is 36 years old and has never moved out of his parents' house. He has also been out of work for just over a year. I also just lost my home. I've moved in with him and his parents. He promised me before I made this move that he would find a job and we would get our own place soon. It's been two months and he has made little to no effort. I don't want to be a nag, but I do make comments now and then. I also e-mail him job listings that I find online that he would be perfect for. He ignores them, and when I ask if he looked at them he just says he didn't reply. He always has some excuse for why the job isn't right. I'm trying to make him understand that at this point he can't wait for the perfect job to come knocking at his door. He needs to be proactive. I just worry that he is too comfortable living at home. He keeps telling me that I worry too much and that things will work out. Don't get me wrong -- I love his parents, they are great. But I have been on my own for almost 20 years. He is pretty much a momma's boy. She has done everything for him his entire life.
I really want us to get our own place. I just don't know what to do. I don't want to keep nagging him to the point that he can't stand it anymore. But I don't know how much longer I can sit around while he doesn't make any effort. I really do love him, and I'm pretty sure he loves me. I know it isn't easy. I was out of work myself for 15 months a few years back. I'm really wondering if moving in "temporarily" was the wrong decision ...
– Don't Want to Ruin It, Medway
A: Can you afford your own place, DWTRI? If so, get one.
Find a cheap place. Have your own space. See if he makes an effort to join you. And by join you, I don't mean shack up with you while you pay rent. See if moving to a new place pushes him in the right direction. See if he takes steps to become your real, grown-up partner. If not, you'll already be set up for a fresh start.
I think this relationship has potential, and I think his laziness might have something to do with the fear of rejection that has crippled many people in this economy. But he was living with his parents long before the downturn. And it seems that when he says that everything "will work out," he means that everything will work out on his terms.
I don't want you to feel as though he's the only guy who will ever care for you. I don't want you to make too many excuses for him because you believe he saved you from becoming a crazy cat lady. That's why I think you need the space. There's no way to get clarity when you're living with his family in his comfort zone.
Again, make your own comfort zone and see if he has any interest in it.
Readers? Am I right to say she should move out? Does her past (or lack thereof) have anything to do with her choices? How can she push him out of his cocoon? Should she? Advise.
– Meredith
I'm not on his profile
We're still taking party RSVPs at events@globe.com
Q: I know some readers are going to find a Facebook quandary boring, but it is my life after all …
I have been dating a great new guy for almost three months. We're both in our late 20s/early 30s. We are definitely still in the honeymoon stage, but things are great and we are "official." We had the talk and are not seeing other people. The problem is that he will not acknowledge me on Facebook. I don’t need him to put "in a relationship with" me yet, but we recently took a weekend trip and the only pictures he posted were ones I took of just him. We have taken photos at several other fun outings and he has never posted the pictures. I changed my profile picture to one of two of us together, but he won't even include pictures with me in them.
Some back story: he dated his last girlfriend for a couple of years, and it was pretty serious. There was talk of rings and wedding dates and locations. He told me this when we first started dating because he wanted to take things slower this time. They had moved really fast in the beginning and he still felt a little burned. They broke up almost a year ago, but they are still friends on Facebook -- and he is also connected to several of her friends and family members. I have a feeling that he doesn't want her to see pictures of him with another girl, though she knows through mutual friends that he is seeing someone.
How do I approach this? I don't want to demand that he de-friend her or start posting pictures of me all over his page, but it still hurts my feelings to not be acknowledged. I think he is trying to spare her feelings, but what about mine?
– Invisible Girlfriend, Brighton
A: IG, you're not invisible. You're only invisible in the Matrix, the world that exists online. In the real world, he's not seeing other people because you're his main squeeze.
Some people love putting pictures of their significant others all over their Facebook pages. Others are more private about their personal lives when they're online. You've only been dating for three months. I understand that it hurts to be ignored on Facebook, but I don't think this is a big deal just yet. He's not ready to boast about you to his virtual friends. If he's a private person who feels weird about labeling himself online, he might never be. If this still bothers you in a few months, talk to him about his internet philosophy. You might discover that it's not about you. Maybe he just doesn't do the Facebook couple thing.
If this is about his ex, well, I don't blame him. If you date someone for years and discuss marriage, it's not easy to let go. It's also not easy to post a picture of your new girlfriend knowing that your ex's mom or sibling will see it. If that's his reason for being shy online, I get it. Don't you? It might be easier for him to show off his new life in a few more months, when the dust has really settled.
Three months. Focus on the real world. Don't panic. Not everyone likes to scrapbook in public.
Readers? Do you post pics of your significant other online? In your profile photo? Is it weird that he's cutting her out of his Facebook life? Do his Facebook choices reflect how he feels about her in reality? Discuss.
– Meredith
Am I happy enough?
Happy June.
Party countdown. Please RSVP to events@globe.com.
If you missed Manny on Friday, here you go.
Q: I'm in need of some unbiased advice – if the situation as viewed from my perspective can be unbiased. I met my boyfriend through one of the online dating services and we have been together for five years. I spent the early part of our relationship extremely stressed and busy with other things, mainly getting a master's degree while working full time. We moved in together within a few months, which is a little faster than I had wanted, but my roommate was moving out, and it just didn't seem feasible for me to live alone. I don't doubt that I love him and I don't doubt that he loves me.
My problem is I don't if I'm happy enough, which I know sounds a bit contradictory. My last three serious long-term relationships (thankfully not successively) were BAD. One guy wouldn't know fidelity if it came up and smacked in the head. The second was abusive. The third would rather party than pay rent or get a job. Given all of that, what I have with my boyfriend seems great, but I'm not sure because the bar has been set so low it's subterranean. I'm not sure if I am getting everything I want/need out of the relationship.
What I want out of a relationship is a partner, someone to work with me and occasionally take care of me. What I have with him now feels like mothering. As I mentioned, he is a great guy and supportive. But he is very ambivalent about everything. He has few interests and lives very much in the now. I am someone who likes to do things, like maybe going for a walk, checking out the new exhibit at a museum, hanging out with friends, etc. I feel like the things that I am missing from my current relationship are all things that I have had in my previous disastrous relationships, that there is no such man out there who can be what I need, and that I should just be happy that he has a job, will never cheat on me, and will never raise a hand at me.
Am I asking for too much? Can these things that I am missing be learned? Would couples counseling help? I don't want to give up on what I think is a good foundation for a relationship, but I don't want to spend the rest of my life with what we have right now.
– In love but not happy?, Boston
A: ILBNH, I'm recommending counseling -- for you.
Before you figure out if this relationship can be fixed, you have to untangle the mess in your head. The tone of your letter suggests that you doubt yourself and that you haven't had much time or space to process your bad relationships and life after grad school.
You need to talk about what you've experienced and how it created these standards. You need to come up with a list of wants for your relationship that fall somewhere between "He must be perfect," and the subterranean "I'm just happy he's not abusive." You need to figure out how to successfully communicate your needs once you're confident about what they are. Most importantly, you need to learn to trust yourself so that you're comfortable being single if these realistic needs aren't met.
My point is, before you set a goal of improving your relationship you have to deal with your own head. You don't have to be single to figure yourself out, but you do need to take some time for some mental spring cleaning. Once you become more confident about your wants, I think some of the sentences in your letter will no longer end in a question mark.
Readers? Am I right to say that she sounds unsure about herself and that she has to fix that before she can deal with her relationship? Do you get the sense that she has communicated any of her wants and needs to her partner? Should she be single right now? Thoughts? Discuss.
– Meredith
Why am I single?
Everyone knows I like "Twilight." OK, fine, I love "Twilight."
I mention this because actress Julia Jones, who's from Boston and plays Leah (the only female werewolf) in "The Twilight Saga: Eclipse," is visiting the Globe today to do a chat on Boston.com. You can ask her questions about her career, the movie, or what Robert Pattinson smells like at 12:30 here. She'll be at the Wheelock Family Theatre, where she got her start, tonight.
Now for today's letter.
Q: I've been a fan of Love Letters since the first week's installments. My favorite being the pseudo rock star. Everyday during my coffee break, I sit and peruse the relationship topic and comments from regulars.
I've been asked this question quite a bit lately -- "How are you still single?" My response is a friendly chuckle and smile. It doesn't seem to be "why" but "how." It's been asked by older folks, married couples, and even people I've just met platonically.
Men obviously find me approachable/attractive because they initiate conversation and remark I'm "easy on the eyes." My witty banter has them hooked initially. Topics can range from sports, fitness, current affairs (news not cheating), travels, authors, movies, musicians, cooking tips, childhood memories or choice in Belgian ales. I am very open-minded, a respectable listener, humorous and confident. Yet when I mention my career, the interest level seems to turn. When I share my passions of daily activities, I start to overwhelm or come off as "high-maintenance." I've learned to limit information about myself to avoid instant intimidation.
My credentials: I'm a scientist. I will admit I am nerdy but won't talk about quantum theory unless you ask. I am currently in a PhD program. I like to give back to the community, I volunteer with various organizations. I do find time for myself, I enjoy running (active marathoner), a quality yoga class, downhill skiing, rock climbing, mountain biking, camping and dancing. I love to read, the classics or current news magazines. Impeccable cooking skills comparable to "mother's home-cooking." I can be found in great seats in Fenway or TD Bank. I make time for friends and myself. For the most part, I appear busy. But it is a result of feeling lonely so I find activities to make up for time.
My friends reassure me that I just haven't found Mr. Right. I've been single for about two years, been on good and bad dates. Most ending after the 2nd or 3rd. I gain insight from all the experiences but its emotionally exhausting.
Do men really desire the whole package of brains and beauty? Why is it so hard for successful and ambitious women to date?
For the record, I do not have a deadline for marriage or procreation, I am only 25. It would be nice to have a companion and friend. I am just tired of rejection and could use some help. Would you or the LL community contribute some helpful pointers, please? I believe there has to be other ambitious women experiencing a similar issue.
– Trying Not To Give Up, Boston
A: You're only 25, TNTGU. You're supposed to be having hit-or-miss dating experiences. Be patient, please. The next time someone asks why you're single, you can tell them, "I'm single because I'm only 25, dummy."
Maybe don't call them "dummy." But tell them, "I'm hoping to meet someone awesome, but it hasn't happened yet." I don't know why people ask that question. I know it's supposed to be a compliment, but what are you supposed to say? There's no good answer.
I don't think that you're doing anything wrong -- but, I'd like to remind you that you want the people you're dating to know that you have room in your life for a partner. You're quite impressive, and there's no need to dumb yourself down for anyone. But there's a difference between being impressive and appearing as though you're not missing any pieces. You are missing a piece. It's OK to let that show. Vulnerability is scary, but make sure you show yours. You don't need to say, "I'm a PhD student, I have many hobbies, and I'm vulnerable!" It's just a mindset.
Many men are looking for an ambitious woman who's funny, witty, and "easy on the eyes." I truly believe that. But those men (and this goes for women, too) want to know that there's a place for them in their partner's life, that they have something to contribute. I think you're doing just fine. Again, you're 25. Just keep the vulnerability stuff in mind.
Readers? Is she doing anything to keep people away? How should she answer the "Why are you single?" question? Am I right about the vulnerability issue? Help.
– Meredith
Old guy or new guy?
The ex vs. Mr. Interested ...
Q: I had been dating this guy for almost nine months until the relationship started going sour. I say this because he started working more (very demanding job) and paying less attention to "us." I finally had cut ties with him and ended the relationship. He was devastated and could not understand why I wanted to break up. He just plain and simple did not make time for us. I loved him to death but his effort was no longer there.
Toward the end of my relationship, I had met someone else. Someone I have been interested in for a while and who actually asked me out waaay before my ex and I even met. I turned him down when we first met because I had been seeing someone else at the time. So anyways, Mr. Interested (that's what I'll call him) shows up again in my life, like I was saying, toward the end of my relationship, and asked me out again. I had it already programmed in my head that I was going to break up with my boyfriend so I said yes. After my first date with Mr. Interested, I felt confident enough to call it quits with my boyfriend and move on to greener pastures. Or so I thought.
Everything was going great with the new guy -- gives me goose bumps, makes me smile ... the whole bit! Then my now-ex comes back into the picture and is heartbroken and says he will do anything to get me back. He has sent flowers to my work. He sends me texts begging for another chance to prove to me that he is the man for me. This is all sweet but I've heard it all before. This time, however, he seems much more sincere about it and wants to change. The wheels in my head start turning and I keep thinking, "Hmm ... I could have new guy or keep the old guy I'm pretty comfortable with."
I honestly like both. Both have qualities I love and adore. Part of me doesn't want to lose my ex because he really is a good man, my friend, and someone I never want to hurt. Mr. Interested is fun, romantic, and sweet. He is definitely someone I see myself with long term. The downfall is he is very cheap. My ex loved spending money especially on me. So, I'm not used to a cheap guy. Very sweet but very cheap.
My dilemma is I know I can't keep both but should I be looking for Mr. Right or Mr. Right Now??! I'm so confused and don't want to hurt either one. What kind of advice can you give me? I'll take anything I can get. Thank you:)
– Annalisa, Chicago
A: Annalisa, who is Mr. Right and who is Mr. Right Now? I'm pretty sure you're thinking that Mr. Right is Mr. Interested. My vote goes to Mr. Interested, so that works for me.
No one likes letting go of a loving ex, even when that loving ex was less loving by the end of the relationship. It's natural to feel awful about cutting ties, especially when the ex starts sending flowers to confuse you. But you know what you want. Mr. Interested gives you goose bumps. He respects you. He has been after you for a long time. He's your greener pasture.
For the record, I’m not so sure he's cheap. Your ex spent a lot of money on you, but he also ignored you. One seems to have something to do with the other. Wouldn't you rather have a partner who respects you and doesn't take his time with you for granted than a guy who showers you with presents? Mr. Interested seems to be pursuing a realistic relationship with the right priorities.
I believe it was the great J. Lo who once said, "Think you've got to keep me iced? You don't!" Her love didn't cost a thing. Your love should be about romance, respect, and friendship. Sounds like Mr. Interested wins in those categories.
Readers? Should she give the ex a chance or is it too late? Am I wrong about the cheap thing? Is this letter writer a liner-upper? How can someone who's used to getting presents get comfortable with a partner who doesn't shower her with gifts? Discuss.
– Meredith
I'm one of her boyfriends
Good morning.
Q: Help, I'm no spring chicken -- age 62 and really new to relationships. Was formerly married for 35 years, but divorced five years ago, dated a number of times since. Met a very interesting, never-been-married woman about four months ago. Instant attraction, nothing I've ever experienced. She is 55 had a 20 year relationship, but never married and has dated many people since. Intimacy with her is great, great, great.
I am looking for a long-term committed relationship. She was unsure about commitment, but we decided to take it one day at a time. She asked me not to fall in love with her, but as the weeks progressed she fell in love with me. My problem: she has a lot of exes, at least six that she still talks with on the telephone and goes to visit. She is in sales and travels periodically, meeting her exes. Four of her exes are married. They were when she became involved with them and she sees them either out of town or when their wives are away.
She sees one ex at her house weekly where he helps with household projects and he leaves her money to help her with household expenses. He has expected intimacy, and she has complied, but doesn't like it. I didn't know she was seeing him during the day and me at night. She recently traveled 250 miles to meet one of her married guys for a mid-week rendezvous. I was shocked, but our relationship was progressing very nicely and she has been totally honest about her relationships.
She tells me I am the best thing that has happened to her ever and wants a long-term committed relationship, but she is afraid if she dumps all the "losers" in her life, I will dump her. She has told almost all of the guys that she has met someone special. Two dumped her because they wanted her to be exclusive. Two have told her there has never been any long-term future and if she finds someone special she should take advantage. All of these relationships have been going on for six, eight, or 10 years, but she has confessed to a number of traveling affairs lasting weeks. I have no idea how many. Since I am the new guy, I didn't feel it right to demand she stop seeing her "friends," that I should be patient and let our relationship develop or crash and burn.
Her longest relationship has returned after eight months of being away. I told her if she went back with him, our time was over, and she told me she was going to end it. The week he was to return he called to report that he is ill. Now she feels obligated to be there for him during his surgery and recuperation. Nobody knows what this means because they won't know the extent of the damage until surgery, which is still weeks away. I think this means all summer at a minimum, maybe longer. Making matters more complicated is he has no one else and no money, she's on a tight budget also, but because she hasn't told him about the other guys in her life she feels guilty and needs to be there for him.
Should I run quicker than ever or should I stay and let her relationship with this man play itself out? I have told her she needs to be honest with me and him, but she can't with him because of the situation. She said she wants a future with me. I think the only reason I've stayed this long is because we are very good together and she has been totally and painfully honest with me. Part of me feels that she is addicted to intimacy without commitment and that is part of the problem.
I feel like I should say, "I need to leave, I can't deal with the emotional strain and only seeing you part-time for the next few months. When you get your life in order, call me, maybe we can get together at that time."
– Should I Run?, Vermont
A: Wow. I wish I could get a visual on this woman.
I sort of understand how this happened, SIR. She's like a drug with highs, lows, and terrible side-effects. It's not shocking that you got caught up in the excitement. It is shocking that this ridiculousness has lasted this long.
I don't object to her helping the sick ex. That's the one thing that doesn't bother me. It wouldn't bother you either if all the other stuff wasn't happening -- if she wasn't hooking up with guys who leave her money, if she wasn't traveling for dates and telling you about it, and if she wasn't constantly going on "sales calls." If these four months had been more about you, you wouldn't object to her helping someone in need. And for the record, she gets no points for honesty. It's great that she tells you everything, but what she's telling you is pretty awful. It's not any less awful because you haven't been lied to.
I'd run. I'm just not convinced she can give you the long-term relationship you say you want. You suspect that she might be into you because you've been open to a no-strings-attached relationship. I suspect that you're only into her because she's the greatest, sexiest challenge you've ever known. That gets old after a while.
There are a lot of women out there who are super sexy and manage to survive on their own without maintaining six boyfriends at once. I'd look around for one of those. This is the life this woman has chosen. I'm just not convinced she wants to have it any other way.
Readers? Have any empathy for this guy? Is he addicted to the excitement? Should she get any credit for being so honest with him? Is it wrong for her to help her sick ex? Discuss.
– Meredith
I don't feel bad
Thank you to those who entered the Huntington Theatre "Prelude to a Kiss" contest yesterday. Your entries put me in a really good mood. I did pick winners, but really, all of the entries were fantastic.
I've posted some of the entries here so you can read them. I figure ... we read about so many problems … it's nice to get a taste of some happy stuff. Good material for a Friday.
According to today's letter writer, I am a genius and she is "pretty awesome." I'll buy that.
Q: I recently discovered your column and absolutely love your advice. You are a relationship genius. Maybe you can help me with my current situation.
When I was in college, I had a rocky relationship with a great guy. We treated each other pretty badly. We were probably addicted to the drama, but besides all that, we really clicked. After college, I moved back to Boston and he remained in our college town.
Eight years later, I had ended a long term relationship, and even though I had always known that the guy was not right for me, I was devastated. Then I dated a series of losers. I found this confusing because I am pretty awesome. I decided to seek out the ex. I figured a fling with an old flame would boost my self-esteem and nothing serious could come of it because we lived in different cities. However, when we saw each other the connection was absurd. We ended up doing a year long distance and then moving in together. After two years of living together, things were not going that well. He had lost all interest in sleeping with me. I think this was his way of forcing some emotional distance in order to avoid a deeper commitment like marriage and kids. We lived apart for two years. We set a date to move back in together, but he backed out because our problems were not resolved.
In the interim we had tried couples therapy, individual therapy, and had been trying to get pregnant (we're in our 30s and I figured it wasn't the fairy tale but I wanted kids and took it as a sign of his commitment to me that he was willing to try). Though he was a pretty terrible boyfriend, he was an amazing best friend. After five years, I was still excited to see him, we always laughed together, he was extremely supportive of me, and we were still affectionate with each other, though the intimacy was infrequent.
I suspected that our not moving back in together marked the end of our relationship but I decided to wait until he finished a major project at work before discussing it with him. There were some signs that he was cheating, though in my heart, I still trusted him. But I checked his phone. He caught me and was furious since his privacy is a huge issue with him. I found something that implied he had been cheating. I don't know for sure and at this point I just don't care. He stormed out and emailed me later that day that we should consider our relationship over and that if I wanted to discuss it, we could do so after his major work project ended. I didn't reply. That was three weeks ago. Though we used to talk and email every day, I have not contacted him at all and he has not contacted me. His work project was finished this week.
I feel amazingly OK. When I saw the email, I felt relieved. I had been trying so hard to keep the relationship together that it felt great to just let go, to not have to deal with his emotionally distant behavior anymore. I felt instantly more attractive. I signed up for Match.com and already have some dates lined up. My friends keep checking in on me to see if I am really OK.
So my question is this: Am I naive to think that I'm really OK? Am I just in denial? Will the emotional bottom eventually fall out? Should I discuss any of this with my ex? Though he was my best friend for five years, a friendship at this point does not seem feasible. I do not want to fight and I'm sure he doesn’t view the break up the way that I do. I also do not want to know if he's seeing anyone else. Is cold turkey the way to go? Your advice is appreciated. Thank you.
– Surprisingly Over It, Washington
A: You know, SOI, I'm not shocked you're over it. You've been breaking up with this guy for years -- in your head and in your heart. Even when you were trying to make a baby with him (and wow, I'm so glad that didn't happen), you were thinking of him as a friend who couldn't offer much more.
Love Letters has taught me that usually, the people who are the most devastated by break-ups didn't see it coming. They feel as though they didn't get the chance to try to make it work. Their have unanswered questions. The rug has been pulled out from under them. The rug has punched them in the face.
You exhausted this one from every angle, at different ages, in different settings. You've seen it fail over and over -- and if anything, you're relieved not to have to try again.
This is proof that there's no wasted time in failed relationships. When people say to me, "I wish we had broken up a year ago ... so I wasted less time," I say, "You would have spent that extra year processing this break-up." There's no way to rush this stuff.
Cold turkey is great for now. Maybe someday you can check in with each other and be pals with boundaries. For the moment, though, revel in the fact that you did the right thing by watching it play out over and over again. You have all of your answers. You care for him but can't be his partner. And that's OK. And that's why you feel just fine.
Readers? Will the bottom fall out? Is there denial going on here? What am I missing? Do you agree that she's OK because this break-up has been going on for years? Other thoughts?
– Meredith
She was raped
Q: I have a tough situation on my hands and would like your thoughts on how to approach it all. I have been dating a great gal for several months. I have very strong feelings for her and see a future with her.
Everything in the relationship seems to be going well. But I've started to find out more information about her past that just causes me to worry about her. I've come to find out that she was once in a physically abusive relationship, and that two years ago, she was raped. The two are separate situations.
I found out about the latter after we were intimate one night. I said and did something that triggered a flashback; most would construe what I did as a sweet and loving gesture. Unfortunately, what I did/said was very similar to what her attacker did and that's why she broke down. Knowing what I know of her, she probably would have kept this from me but she was forced to come clean after she broke down.
I really admire her strength but she has low self-esteem and is very apt to blame herself for stuff. What I think would help is reinforcing a higher sense of self-esteem by telling her how much I admire her strength, love her, and how I think she's so beautiful inside and out. Unfortunately, it's a Catch 22 because of the circumstances of her attack.
I literally found about the rape earlier tonight and am just floored. To be honest, I'm trying to write cohesively but feel like I'm just rambling. I'm hurting so much right now having found out what she's been through. I care about her a lot and am just so sad for her.
I guess my questions are:
1. Should I lay off trying to reinforcing a positive self esteem because of the Catch 22?
2. Should I also seriously back off getting intimate; she seems to enjoy the sex and has never pulled back or anything like that but I'm concerned that she might have a great poker face and is hiding that our getting intimate affects her and while she's said that she's seen counseling, I'm not sure if she's still currently seeing counseling. Should I bring the subject up again to be certain that she's getting help from people who know how to help?
3. All this just feels like such a heavy burden for her to carry. I care so much about her. She deserves the best and I am giving her my very best but this just feels so much bigger than me and what I can do.
Help...
– Wondering What To Do, Boston
A: WWTD, that's quite a letter.
The big thing that I usually tell significant others of rape/sexual assault/abuse survivors is that it's not up to them (the significant other) to decide how important the awful experience was for their partner. It's also not the job of the significant other to do any saving. The act of saving makes a person feel as though they need to be saved. And often, they've already saved themselves.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by reinforcing positive self-esteem. There's no need to shower your girlfriend -- or anyone else for that matter -- with gratuitous compliments. Too much of that begins to sound disingenuous. Your desire to show up and spend time with her is the greatest compliment. No need to go above and beyond with "You're so pretty" rants.
And there's definitely no need to cut out the physical intimacy. If you refuse sex, you're basically telling her she isn't up to having it. This is her call. If she likes sex, fantastic.
This is bigger than you, but so is everything in her past. All you can do is ask questions and be a friend. In your case, it's OK to ask her if she's still in counseling. The bottom line is that she freaked out because of something you did. That gives you the right to ask her what you can do to avoid a repeat situation, and it certainly gives you the right to tell her that you're a bit dumfounded as to what to do with this new information. Explain that it doesn't turn you off to her (in fact, it only makes you respect her more), but you just want to have the healthiest, most awesome relationship with her that you possibly can, and you want some guidance -- from her and maybe whatever therapist she chooses to see, if she chooses to see one. The best thing to do when you don't know what to do is to ask. The question can be as simple as, "How important should I make this?" or "How important is this to you?" You're also allowed to say, "Sometimes I worry about your self-esteem, because you're pretty fantastic and you don't seem to know it."
It sounds like she just had a bad night. And maybe it was just her way of telling you a little more about herself. The best way to handle this new information is to ask questions, to be honest when you're feeling ignorant, to be a friend, to make her laugh, and to understand that she doesn't need you to fix her. Do all that and you're doing the best you can.
Readers? Is he allowed to suggest that she continue therapy? How important is this new information? Is there a way he can help with her self-esteem? Is there any reason to suggest he shouldn't be intimate with her? Share.
Also, on an unrelated note, I have two pairs of tickets for tomorrow's performance of "Prelude to a Kiss" at the Huntington Theatre. If you want them, send a paragraph to my Gmail (meregoldstein at gmail dot com) by 5 p.m. telling me who you want to kiss today and why. I'll pick winners tonight. Tomorrow's performance includes some sort of after-party.
– Meredith
I'm here and he's there
I'm going over to Fenway Park today with some Love Letters questions for our Red Sox person. Remember to RSVP for the June 4 party at events@globe.com.
Today is a light letter, but tomorrow is heavy, so prepare.
Chat at 1 p.m.
Q: Hi Meredith,
My boyfriend and I have been together for two years now and the relationship is moving in the right direction. We have begun taking those next steps including looking for a place together and getting engaged.
Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on how you look at it, we both received offers for our dream jobs within two weeks of one another. I'm sure you're wondering, what's the issue then? His dream job required him to transfer to another state. We are doing the long distance thing for now but it is difficult on both of us and he is pushing for me to make the move to be with him. Under any other circumstances I would commit and make the move, however, his current position is only guaranteed for contracts of six month at a time. And his employers are talking about moving him to other cities as well.
This job is the best opportunity for him right now. It is going to make starting our lives together financially easier. But it is hard to start a life when you live in separate states.
I want to start my life with him but how can I be expected to give up my dream job to follow him on his quest that may only result in him being back in Boston after six months?
– Name A Tale of Two Cities, Quincy
A: ATOTC, sounds like you can't do anything until you find out where he'll be in six months. Fingers crossed that they transfer him straight to Quincy.
My guess is that after six months (or a year) one of you will be willing to give up your dream job. He'll get sick of traveling or you'll get sick of your work. The odds are good that the choice will be much easier by then with more information.
You asked how you could be expected to give up a dream job to accommodate his temporary position. You didn't ask how you could be expected to give up a dream job for love. You told us that "under any other circumstances I would commit and make the move." That means you're willing to take risks and make sacrifices without feeling resentful. That's 99.9 percent of the battle.
All you have to do is get logistical answers, which are on their way. My advice is to be patient. Please do not make a logistical problem an emotional one when it doesn't have to be. In life, we must enjoy the logistical problems. Those are the easy ones, right?
Readers? How can they make it work in separate states? Am I underestimating the frustration that comes with long distance and unanswered logistical questions? Any long-distance relationship advice for our reader? We get a lot of letters about "dream jobs" getting in the way of relationships. Is any job that important if it puts a relationship at risk? Talk.
– Meredith
What does it mean to settle?
I know, I know -- I've been posting at 10. I'll post by 9 tomorrow, I promise.
Q: Dear Meredith,
I am interested in your thoughts (and those of your insightful readers) on what it means to sabotage a relationship, and what it means to “settle.” I used to think I was just particular, and thus could not find a suitable match for me. That is, someone who likes competing in triathlons and baking pistachio biscotti, who would consider moving to Botswana for a few years with me as a development worker or researcher, who eschews motorized vehicles and television and prefers bicycles and books, and who can make a witty reference to Kant and macaques in a single sentence, without too much effort and without sounding smarmy. Is that asking too much?
So at first this was a question about "settling." Maybe I am expecting too much from a partner and should reconsider what a partner is and means to me, and what I also am willing to give to a partnership. I mean, I don't often make biscotti, and every now and then it's convenient to have use of a car. And I'm no saint; I can be selfish, impatient, tardy, aloof. So question one is: am I asking too much, and do I need to reassess my expectations? Or, am I ready to settle, and is that perhaps good enough?
Finally, I realize that with every male I date, I am excellent at finding exactly what is going wrong with the guy; he doesn't eat sushi or uses poor syntax, or he doesn't know what "megalomaniac" means-- even if he is kind, patient, generous, funny, intelligent, compassionate, etc. This seems like a well-formed defense mechanism to avoid intimacy. So, what's wrong with me, Dr. Meredith? What am I missing as I near age 30 and realize I both yearn for a healthy and happy relationship but keep on finding fault with those I have?
Thanks.
– Saboteur, Boston
A: Nice trophy husband, S. Pistachio biscotti? Well done. Mine surprises me with Skittles and kettle corn, knows every episode of "The Simpsons," and lets me control the music in the car. Oh -- and he's undead. And he loves me in sweatpants. He says there's nothing sexier than a waistband that snaps.
Yes, you're avoiding intimacy. And no, your dream man doesn't exist (and thank goodness, because I think you'd hate him if he did). My guess is that you're picky these days because you're not quite ready for a serious partnership. Your feelings of yearning are legitimate, but they aren't stronger than your want to go to Botswana. Your instinct to reject suitors enables you to maintain the wonderfully young and selfish life you want and deserve as a woman in her 20s.
You strike me as someone who will wind up falling in love with a friend or colleague. The better you know someone before dating them, the more you'll be likely to forgive their lack of interest in wasabi or the fact that they had to Google the word "macaques" to know what you're talking about. I see you meeting someone organically while you're doing something you love. You'll want to reject them but because you already like them too much, you won't be able to.
I know you yearn, but you're not quite there yet. When you get there, trust me, you'll forgive more than you ever expected to. And that's not settling, by the way. That's called falling in love.
Readers? Is she looking for Astronaut Mike Dexter (thank you "30 Rock")? Am I right to say she's just not ready? What's her problem (if there is one)? Anything she can to do be more open to these men? Discuss.
– Meredith
He's a bad drunk
Morning.
I had a great time at that play the other night. I have to say -- assuming the script is accurate -- Ann Landers and I would have been good friends. She had great pajamas, loved candy, danced around her apartment while she read letters, and thought of her readers as close friends. I can relate.
Q: I have been in a serious relationship with my boyfriend for about 5 months. He is 33, I am 35. Ninety-five percent of the time, I could not ask for a better boyfriend. He cooks dinner for me every night, tells me he loves me all the time, is very affectionate, helps around the house, has a good job, and is great with my son (from a previous relationship). During these times, I am the happiest, luckiest woman in the world. I know it's "only" been 5 months, but we are together everyday for the most part.
HOWEVER ... when he drinks, he becomes a total different person. He gets mood swings -- one minute he loves me and can't live without me, the next minute he is mad at me (just out of the blue). The first time I saw him like that, a family member just died, so I took it as, oh, he is just under a lot of stress, and didn't say anything that night. I did let him know the next day, and he just said "Next time I get like that, just punch me in the face." I laughed it off.
A month later he was out with his buddies from work. I knew he was going out for a little bit and that he would be home around 9. He started texting me around 7 p.m., same scenario -- loving at first, then mean and cruel. I asked him when he was coming home (as he takes the train), and by then (it was 10 p.m.) he was overly drunk, incoherent, and walking around Boston aimlessly by himself. Of course I was worried, drove to Boston, and drove around two hours looking for him, because he was so drunk, he had no idea where he was. Then the whole car ride back he was calling me names, being mean to me, just hurting my feelings.
The next day, I told him about all the things he said (he didn't remember), and he was very apologetic. Now fast forward another six weeks to last night. He called me to tell me he was going to be an hour late. I waited at the train station, and waited, and waited. After two hours I went home. Then, of course, the same texts came in, he was drunk, wandering around Boston, no clue where he was, first being sweet, then being a jerk. I stood my ground and told him he can find his own place to sleep, as I was not going to drive around Boston looking for him again. Of course he was texting me all night.
As I was writing this, being worried about him as I didn't hear from him since around 3:30am ... (I was tossing and turning the whole night), he just called. He again apologized, saying he handles stress wrong, and that it has nothing to do with me, and that he won't do this again, and he will cut down on his drinking.
I am wondering how many times I should give him a chance. Please note that he does NOT drink everyday, or every weekend, as I think he knows how bad he gets. But when he does drink, I always dread it, as he does not know how to moderate, he goes to full blown drunk.
When he is sober, which is 95 percent of the time, he is amazing! As I said before, he takes care of me, bonds really close with my son and my family, and helps around the house, cooks everyday. I get nightly massages, he’s always loving and affectionate, has a great job, and wants to marry me and have children with me. I just don't know how to deal with his drinking when he drinks, as he becomes a horrible person that I wouldn't wish on anyone.
– At a Crossroad, Dracut
A: AAC, I'm about to state the obvious here, but your boyfriend has a drinking problem. It doesn't matter that he only shows it some of the time. It's still a drinking problem. It's a drinking problem that puts you at risk, hurts your feelings, and has you searching for your partner in the middle of the night like he's a lost dog.
You have two options: drop him -- or make a list of demands that include no more booze and major counseling. I'm not sure the second option is really on the table, of course. You can't force him to admit his problem and seek help. But unless he wants to admit that he has a problem and has the desire to fix it, there's not much you can do besides walk away.
Even if this man is open to confronting his problem, you need to think about whether this mostly good (and slightly scary) relationship is worth sticking around for. It's not that people with drinking problems can't manage their issues and aren't worth dating, it's just that you're new to this partnership. You haven't invested too much just yet. This process won't be easy for him. Do you want to be a part of it?
I'd also note that 95 percent of the first five months of a relationship isn't an accurate snapshot of reality. My guess is that 95 percent of your relationship with him in three years would look pretty different. Aren't we usually on our best behavior during the first five months?
The bad 5 percent is an important 5 percent. You said you wouldn't wish this on anyone. Do you wish it on yourself?
Readers? Should she stick around? What is this about? Can he fix the 5 percent? Is the 95 percent real? Thoughts.
– Meredith
I think about her friends
Thank you to those who entered the worst advice-"Lady With All the Answers" contest yesterday. I picked a winner last night. There are still tickets for sale. Just make sure you type LANDERS (as in Ann Landers) on the Central Square Theatre site to get a discount, and make sure you buy for the Saturday show, which is when I'll be there to say hello.
In other news, our marketing department tells me that RSVPs are rolling in for June 4. I'm excited to see you, too.
In other, other news, someone affiliated with the Red Sox (I'm not supposed to say who) is going to help me answer some letters next week to celebrate the aforementioned Love Letters/Extra Bases party. Any letter that comes to me between now and next Wednesday might wind up in the hands of this Red Sox-type person. If you want love advice from me and from someone wearing red and blue, now's the time to send. Remember when we got help from the Celtics legends? It will be something like that.
And now, meet Mitch.
Q: Meredith,
As a guy, I admittedly feel odd/weird for writing you. But so be it. I'm a 33-year-old, college-educated white male. Not exotic by any means, but pretty normal when juxtaposed with the next random guy. I married my college girlfriend at 23; heartbroken, shocked and divorced by 27. We both made mistakes -- minor and major -- so I don't blame her for my current state. (There's a reason people say you're too young to get married, but I digress.) I'm not sure what exactly it was, but that experience changed me.
Since then, I feel that I subconsciously sabotage relationships after a few years. For example, I lived with my post-divorce girlfriend (and another male roommate) for 18 months. We both had issues, but I believe I exacerbated them with my primal desire to "find something new" and unwillingness to fully commit to her. That relationship ended. After three or so years I'm now living with my current girlfriend. She's sweet, friendly, and a really great person. So why am I always looking at other women wondering, "What if?" Why am I attracted to her friends? Am I just a normal male? Or simply just selfish?
This will sound odd, but sometimes I wish I could have my sex drive reduced so I could maintain a normal, loyal relationship with my current girlfriend. To be clear, I haven't been with anyone else since we moved from dating to exclusivity, but the desire is definitely there. Am I still really this immature at 33? Or am I just addicted to the drug of "newness"?
– Mitch in Dallas
A: Mitch, this isn't about your sex drive. It's about the fact that you got married young and it didn't work out. You're over all that (as much as you can be), and now you're suffering from desire to roam and too much opportunity. More than a few women have wanted to be your girlfriend. And those women have had friends, and their friends have had friends, too. I'm not so sure I'd call this immaturity. You just flipped 23 and 33. You're out of order. And it's difficult to motivate to choose from a pack when your first choice didn't work out like you planned.
I'm sure your current girlfriend is wonderful, but I'm not so sure you can give her what she wants right now. You need to get yourself from 23 to 28 (or 26, at the very least). It's up to you to decide how strong these urges are. It's one thing to fantasize about other women. It's another to know in the back of your mind that at some point, you're going to need to act on these instincts. If you know you can't stay with this woman forever and that you need more experience, you have to tell her.
Regardless of whether you stay with her, these flighty, flirty instincts will go away eventually. I'm confident about that -- not because all wandering eyes can be cured, but because your wandering eye is a result of an ill-timed experience. At one point in your life, your instinct was to give yourself to one person. You'll want that again. Eventually, being with anyone besides your current love will seem like too much work without the right benefits. That's when you'll be ready. You just jumped into more commitment too quickly.
Readers? Is Mitch a bad guy? Am I right to say he'll work through this? Do some people have drives that make it impossible to think about just one person? Does he have to break up with his current girlfriend just because he's thinking about other people? Help Mitch on a Friday.
– Meredith
Will I be a young widow?
Finally, details on the June 4 Love Letters/Extra Bases party.
1. It will be at Game On! near Fenway Park at 6 p.m.
2. There will be apps.
3. It is free.
4. There will be some trivia during the night, but not enough to annoy you.
5. I might bring my cotton candy machine if they let me. We'll see. Pink or blue. Your call.
6. We'll have access to visitor batting cages at Fenway so you can work out your aggression.
7. There will be other surprises. The Extra Bases folks and I are still working them out. Yes, all sports writers who are not on the road with games will attend.
8. Sports fans are welcome. Love Letters fans are welcome. People who dislike sports but like Love Letters are welcome. People who dislike Love Letters but like sports are welcome, but I'll probably give them the evil eye.
9. All ages are welcome. This isn't a singles' event, so couples are also welcome. But if you want to trade some numbers with new friends, fine by me. You know I'm dying for a LL wedding.
10. Please RSVP at events@globe.com. I think the RSVP helps us make sure we get enough free stuff to pass out. Remember those Boston.com ice scrapers from the last Love Letters event? Those were some sweet, sweet ice scrapers. And I'm still using that Boston.com lip balm.
Sound good? The Sox will be in Baltimore that night. I was raised in Maryland but I promise to root for the right team.
Also, it's chat day. 1 p.m.
Q: Hello Meredith,
I love your blog and like others never suspected I would be writing you one day! So here is my story ...
I am 26 years old. I am madly in love and have a man in my life that I am committed to being happily ever after with. We have been together for two years, share a house, and have a couple of dogs that we may or may not have an unhealthy obsession with. You're waiting for the "but" right? OK, well my "but" is that this man is 11 years my senior.
So, I know it's a lot (Or is it? I don't even know anymore.). The thing is, when we're together, I don't feel this difference and neither does he. We like the same things, have fun together and both of our families and friends are always telling us what a wonderful couple we are. Granted, we occasionally have a generational misunderstanding about music, TV, culture etc., but nothing crazy -- more comical, I would say. I'm mature for my age and he is probably a little less mature than the average 37-year-old guy. He was in graduate school (PhD) until he was 29 and since has been in a tenure track job that is a tad bit demanding. I am currently in graduate school (doctorate) in a totally different field/academic institution. We both have long-term relationships in our past, including one called off engagement for him.
The thing is that we've been talking marriage lately. My problem is that I'm now feeling a little anxious about our age-gap. I'm having thoughts like, "When I'm X age, he'll be X age," and asking questions like, "Will I be a young widow?" I keep talking about these things with my poor boyfriend and he calms me down, but the fact that I'm thinking these things is stressing me out. We were also recently at a party and a man who was introduced to us winked at my boyfriend and said "She's a little young for you, eh?" I was there by the way, and pretty mortified. So yeah, that's not helping and it's making me a bit paranoid about what other people might be saying behind my back. I'm officially losing it, right?
So my questions for you are: What do these anxious questions/feelings mean? Is this age-gap a big deal? Am I being just a Nervous Nelly who is questioning a good thing, just to question it?
– A Little Young for Him Apparently, Boston
A: You're being a Nervous Nelly, ALYFHA, but that's OK. We all get neurotic when we're about to sign on the dotted line. It's normal to try to anticipate anything that might go wrong.
It would be great if you were the same age as your guy, but you aren't. I understand the math (when you're 50, he'll be 61!!), but really, 11 years isn't a big deal. It doesn't mean you'll be a young widow. You're both so young. It really doesn't seem worth guessing about your deaths at the moment. Maybe you'll both be taken out by some sort of crazy wave/poisonous fruit when you're 90 and 101. It's not worth stressing about that kind of thing.
People say that age is just a number and it really is. One of my close family members dated someone her own age for a very long time and it seemed … off. Now she's with someone who's about a decade younger and it seems much easier. Their shared place in life is more important than their birthdays. She watched "The Cosby Show" when it was new, he saw it syndicated. She grew up with Mariah Carey's "Vision of Love," and he probably had "Honey" on a mix tape. No biggie.
The guy who made the comment at the party was probably just jealous. Next time that happens, just wink and smile. The age stuff is only as important as you make it. And at your age, it doesn't seem worth worrying about.
Readers? Is she just being a Nervous Nelly? When is an age gap inappropriate (10 years? 11? 20?)? Is the "Will I be a young widow?" question a logical one? Anyone who's in love with an older person want to weigh in on this? Discuss.
– Meredith
He has a disappearing act
Found out last night that if you use the code LANDERS to buy tickets to "The Lady With All The Answers," there's a discount. Sorry I didn't mention it yesterday. I didn't know. Again, Miss Conduct and I are at the Saturday show.
And it looks like the Love Letters/Extra Bases event on June 4 will involve batting cages. Hmmm. Exciting.
Q: Hi Meredith,
My boyfriend and I are both 30 and have been together for just about a year. We've taken our time getting to know each other and I feel that we have a solid relationship. Our lives fit well together. We have fun and seem to be on the same page as far as our future. It's not a passionate, page-turning romance a la Danielle Steele, but it is a comfortable intimate relationship that relies on common interests, laughter, and genuine affection. I truly look forward to seeing him and get butterflies when his name pops up on my phone or in my inbox. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of grilled cheeses and such! But I know there is more to it than physical attraction.
My problem is this: every once in awhile he disappears on me. Most recently, it happened over this past weekend and two weeks prior to that as well. We had gone out one night last week and had a great time. We emailed about a couple of silly things after that and made tentative plans for dinner or a show on Saturday night. So Saturday afternoon rolls around, I call and leave a message to see what the plan is for the night. Four hours later, still no response. Now it's been two days, and I'm wavering between anger, sadness, and worry because I still haven’t heard from him.
However, I know what is going to happen. I'm going to get a call from him tonight saying that he knows he should have called, that he is very sorry. This has happened four or five times over the course of our relationship. I've told him that it really bothers me that he doesn't at least touch base with me and return my call ... especially when we had plans to hang out. His excuse for not calling is never a good one -- it's always that he was exhausted or just down and didn't want to see anyone. He's been really busy at work, so I know that he needs some downtime to himself. But I just think that it is selfish to go MIA on someone who is supposedly such an important part of your life.
My question is this: how many times do I let him do this before enough is enough? When it happens, I feel like he doesn’t care about me, like I'm not important to him, like I can't rely on him ... and when I'm really feeling insecure, like maybe he is spending his weekends making grilled cheese with someone else. Except for these few instances, I have no doubt that he cares about me and sees a future for us. And it is mind-boggling that he continues to do this when he knows how hurtful it is. I don't want to give up on something that feels right 95 percent of the time just because that 5 percent feels so awful.
– Crazed and Confused, Boston
A: You're dating a moody guy who likes his alone time, CAC. Fine, if you can deal with that. There are worse things, for sure.
The best thing you can do is to sit him down again and make some specific rules for his behavior. Cancelling is OK every now and then. Disappearing is not. You need a heads up. You need a code phrase that lets you know that his sudden need for space isn't about you. As in, "Hey honey, I'm having one of my weird nights. I'm going to watch bad TV for six hours and go to sleep. Can I make it up to you tomorrow?" To be clear, these weird nights are excusable if they only happen occasionally.
The thing is, by disappearing and not telling you what he's doing and why, he's basically crying out for attention, probably unintentionally. He's making you dance around and worry. All of your attention winds up on him. If he really wants space every now and then, it's in his best interest to tell you as much as he can so you can go do your own thing and not worry about it. And if he gets used to that routine, it will be a bit easier for him to communicate his need for space when he lives with you. Because that's the goal, right?
Tell him that if he doesn't want attention during these occasional moody spells, he needs to explain everything and make you feel at peace. Again, moody is OK. Selfish disappearances are not. I think that if he wants you around, he'll learn to play by the rules. You just have to explain them.
Readers? Is this about being moody and tired or is it something more? Is the 5 percent going to ruin the 95? Are these disappearances cries for attention? Discuss.
– Meredith
Baby boomer dating troubles
Morning.
Thing No. 1: Love Letters/Extra Bases party June 4. Details coming. Baseball and love. And eats. And mingling.
Thing No. 2: Miss Conduct and I are speaking at this Saturday's performance of the Nora Theatre Company's "The Lady With All the Answers," which is about Ann Landers. There's a pre-show talk and a post-show reception. It will be super fun. If you messed up Mother's Day, this is a good do-over. Come and say hello.
Q: Dear Meredith:
I'm a big LL fan although older (60) than most of your readers. I've wanted to write for some time but feared my issue wouldn't interest the LL community. But since I live with it daily, here goes.
Some background: although I never married, I've had long-term committed relationships including 19 years with my soul mate who died in '99 and 5 years with a man I hoped to "grow old with." When that didn't work out, I moved north for a fresh start near family and a city I've long loved for its culture. In early 2007, ready to date again, I joined Match, meeting 50 men thus far, including two who have become good friends, but alas, no lasting romantic connections.
As many singles agree, online dating is mixed bag of hope and disappointment. It's an uphill battle: if I like them, they don’t like me, and vice versa. From game-players and shrinking vines to serial e-mailers and the just plain weird, I've seen it all. Men my age can be picky and arrogant, especially if they’re really attractive. Ok, I get picky too with men 5+ years older, so out of shape and set in their ways, they seem -- I hate to say this -- old. With two guys, there were mutual sparks but both bolted without warning after six weeks, leaving me feeling like a leper. For awhile I thought something was really wrong with me. Fortunately, with time, I've developed thicker skin and realize chemistry is a matter of persistence, luck, and timing.
For the record, I'm bright, attractive, financially secure, fun, kind, and amazingly younger looking than my age. I'm active in several organizations, volunteer and mentor colleagues, and never hesitate to attend things I want to do with friends, or alone (usually packed with single women). My happily married family and friends keep telling me to forget men and just enjoy my "do whatever I please" single lifestyle -- advice I find insensitive when they've never had to live without love, intimacy, or someone special to spend weekends with. The fact I have a high libido doesn't help; so while I live a full, busy life with terrific friends and family, a huge part is missing.
Although I hate to give up, I can’t shake this awful feeling that time is running out -- because it is. Your LL readers tell people in bad situations to "go find one of the other six billion people out there." In my situation, they aren't out there -- and the older I get, the fewer my chances. When I hear stories of older women in other states who seem to easily find compatible partners, I go nuts.
So I ask: Is 50+ dating in Boston a done deal or in some way different from other cities? Where can a nice gal find motivated men who aren't worn out, angry, arrogant, or passive -- despite what they write about finding "the woman of their dreams"? Lastly have any readers heard stories from family or friends that might help me better handle the frustrations of searching for boomer love in Boston?
– Loveless in Lexington
A: LIL, your letter is proof that so many of these problems are universal, regardless of age. If you were 35, this letter would read the same. The stresses would be different (finding a life partner or beating a biological clock by 40), but the urgency and frustration would be similar. And I bet the 35-year-olds out there would tell you that it doesn't feel like there. At 35, most of those six billion people just got married. Everyone who's single and looking feels like they're running out of time.
Your letter also hints at one of my favorite myths, the idea that Massachusetts has something to do with your single status. These women who found love in other states … do you really think they got lucky because they live outside of Massachusetts? Doubt it.
I know many people who decided that geography was what was holding them back from finding a partner. Some of those people moved to New York City, Atlanta, and Baltimore because they thought dating would be easier in another place. So far, most of those friends (who are in their 20s and 30s, by the way) are still single. The ones who did couple off got lucky. It was a new job or a cute neighbor. Something that could have happened here but didn't.
My advice, which you're not going to love, is to continue doing what you're doing. Join new activities and tell your friends you like set-ups. And, yes, continue the online dating. It's an easy way to get out there and you never know what you'll find. As I mentioned in a letter last week, sometimes people just wind up single for a while. Yes, you're in your 60s and it feels like there's less time, but there's also less time for nonsense. Presumably, when you do meet someone you like, there will be more motivation on both sides to figure out how to make it work.
And as for your friends -- they do mean well. Really. Keep in mind that movies and books about love are pretty much all about single people. Pop culture makes being "single-and-looking" seem pretty exciting. In the eyes of your friends, you're the one with the unfinished, romantic narrative. These friends actually do think you have something they don't. I know it's tough, but give them a break.
Readers? Couldn't this letter have been written by a 30-year-old? Is it more difficult at 60? Is it worse in Massachusetts? How do you deal with coupled friends who don't get it? Once again, it's pep talk time. Discuss.
– Meredith
He gets on my nerves
I'll probably never be able to compare my life to an Usher song. Maybe a Carly Simon song. Maybe a Kelly Clarkson song. But Usher ... probably not. Sad.
Q: Hi Meredith,
Let's just say I could write my own version of "Confessions" by Usher.
I have been really great friends with this guy "Eric" for several months. Until recently, we hung out pretty regularly, texted, and talked on the phone, but have only remained platonic friends. I am just so very happy whenever he is around. He is sweet, kind, and has so many of the qualities I want in a guy.
The past month has been crazy and we really have not hung out as much we used to. Nonetheless, I recently told him that I had feelings for him. His response was that he had feelings for me too, but was going through a lot of things including going back to school, looking for a new job, blah blah blah, and could not commit. Great disappoint indeed, but I accepted it.
During this time there has been another guy, "John," who has been pinning for me. Let's just say that John gets on my nerves and I have no problem letting him know. He is bossy, pushy, and just drives me crazy. He doesn't just bother me. Others have noticed and complained about his less than ideal traits. I know he means well and has a good heart, but sometimes he just doesn't know how to act.
After my great disappointment with Eric, John called me and expressed his feelings. I was shocked. I knew he was interested but I did not think his feelings were so strong. After his confession, I have been thinking about him more and more. I told him about my misgivings, the conflict in personalities, and he seems willing to work on it.
My question to you is: Could my new questionable feelings toward John be legitimate or am I simply rebounding? Part of me would like to wait and see how things could play out with Eric, but I don't want to put my life on hold for someone who is not even open to the possibility. The fact that I am even considering this is crazy considering my previous disdain for him. What should I do?
– Boy Gets On My Nerves, Boston
A: BGOMN, Eric isn't happening. At least not now. You're right to move on from it. No point in waiting. As you put it, "blah blah blah."
As for John, well, I think you should pursue it. You'll either get super annoyed with him and end it quickly or your passionate irritation will turn into passion. My guess is that the passion thing is unlikely (I trust your friends), but the point is, you don't know. You're allowed to explore the option. It's called dating.
How harmful would it be to date John for a bit and find out that it's not meant to be? Not so harmful, in my opinion. It would be a learning experience for you both. Perhaps he'll decide that he doesn't want to change his bad behavior for anyone, including you.
Your letter brings two things to mind:
1) We're all rebounding for something. Some of the best marriages are rebounds from bad dating experiences. 2) We're not psychic. We can't know how something will turn out before we try. If you have romantic feelings for John, even if they're weird ones, it's better to pursue them than play guessing games about what they mean and how it will end.
Just take it slow. The boy may get on your nerves, but if you didn't want to scratch the itch that is John, you wouldn't be writing -- and you certainly wouldn't be spending so much time with him. You're allowed to date him without it meaning too much. Just explain to John that you're giving it a chance. That's all.
Readers? Am I wrong? Is John a waste of time? Does she just like his attention? Is Eric even on the table? Ever had luck dating someone who gets on your nerves? Discuss.
– Meredith
Am I hard-wired to be alone?
Let’s pretend it's Wednesday and chat at 1.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I find myself in need of some combination of wise counsel, kindness, and perhaps tough love. My question is: do you think some people are just not meant to be in relationships? Is it possible that some of us are hard-wired in ways that make it impossible to have love that sticks around?
Clearly, I fear I am one of these people. I am in my late 30s and recently single after the demise of a relationship that I thought could be for good (or at least for whatever future I can currently imagine). I am very tired of finding myself in this place. I have no trouble making and keeping wonderful friends, and the ones who've known me for 20-plus years assure me that I am lovely and kind and smart and the right woman will be lucky to have me. I'm attractive enough to occasionally get hit on in bars (usually by men, and I am a lesbian so this isn't super helpful in terms of finding a partner). I have a professional job, had therapy when I needed it, and have excellent table manners, so the more obvious obstacles to connecting with someone aren't an issue.
All of which leads me to wonder: is there just something inherent in some subset of people to which I belong that poses an insurmountable barrier to being in a relationship? Are some of us just doomed and would I be better served by giving up the ghost, accepting that I was meant to remain single, and trying to make peace with that?
I feel like I have totally lost perspective on the whole thing and would be grateful for any you can provide. Thank you.
– Ready to Hang it Up, Boston
A: RTHIU, I believe that all people are capable of participating in long-term, life-changing romantic relationships. Especially you. The fact that you're asking this question tells me that you're hard-wired for companionship.
I also believe that old saying about water seeking its own level. I believe that your match will probably be someone who could be on her own quite easily but has learned the value of partnership over time. I also believe that finding the right match isn't easy for anyone, and that sometimes, people just wind up single. It happens.
Keep in mind that there are people getting divorced right now after 20 and 30 years of companionship who are asking the same question about their hard-wiring. Any time a relationship fails, we're bound to wonder what's wrong with us. The truth is, we're all a bit off. Some of us just get luckier with love than others.
Straight men hit on you. Friends love you. You know which fork to use. You just haven't met the woman who's hard-wired to stick around. But there isn't anything inherently wrong or different about you based on what you've told us. It's just luck and timing and being open and all the annoying stuff that people write about in self-help books.
That's my long answer. My short answer is that I've yet to meet a person who doesn't want/isn't capable of love. In fact, I've found that the folks who renounce love and make grand statements about relationships being impossible are the ones who want companionship the most and turn out to be really good partners once they find the right person.
It sounds like you just had a bad breakup. Don't let it mess with your head too much. Keep hope alive.
Readers? Are some people just not capable of love that lasts? Why do some people seem to be better at finding partners than others? Which one of you can give this LW the best pep talk? Discuss.
– Meredith
We're taking it too slow
News of the day: I have an asthma doctor appointment at 1 p.m. today. I tried to explain that my lungs are far less important than my 1 p.m. chat, but my doctor suggested that breathing is necessary when giving rational advice. She has a point.
For that reason, we'll be chatting at 1 p.m. tomorrow. I hope that doesn't mess with anyone's lives. My lungs thank you.
And ... Love Letters party June 4. Please save the date.
Q: Hope you can help me get some clarity in my relationship. I’ve been dating a girl who I will call Lisa for about six months now exclusively.
Lisa is someone I briefly dated about a decade ago. We are both in our 30s now. Both of us have been married before, both of us have fulltime jobs and kids.
She and I connect in many ways and we both feel like a future together is very possible. My question to you and your reader is this:
We live several towns away from each other. We only see each other once every 10 days or so, but we talk daily. Our intimate relationship is almost nonexistent.
At the beginning of most relationships it tends to be hot and heavy. This one has been the opposite.
My mind tells me that this is not normal and could only get worse, but my heart tells me Lisa could be the woman for me.
We've have talked about this problem recently and she says that she has a busy hectic life. She wants to let things develop slowly because she sees us working out. I also have a hectic lifestyle but could always find time.
Am I being impatient? Or does love really takes time to develop the older you get?
– Paul, Andover
A: Six months. Almost nonexistent? I wish I knew what you meant by almost, Paul.
Not all relationships are hot and heavy in the beginning. When people have been hurt, when they're balancing kids and work on their own, the beginning can be slow and cautious.
On the other hand, you're both quite young. I might argue that the perfect anecdote to a busy, stressful, single-parent lifestyle is a nice evening out with an understanding significant other. I'm wondering why she isn't more confident and relaxed after six months.
My big issue is the lack of regular interaction. You only see her every 10 days? That's not very often after six months. If you're both thinking that this could be something more, you're going to have to spend more time together. And if you do, you'll get a better sense of whether the lack of physical intimacy will continue if you become a bigger part of her life.
My guess -- and this is a very blind guess -- is that after a failed marriage, she's emotionally exhausted. She cares for you but wants to keep it safe. She's trying to prolong the beginning of this relationship to avoid the messy stuff that comes after.
Or maybe she has stress about you becoming involved with her kids. If so, she needs to come up with a plan for having a personal life and parenting at the same time.
You must explain that only seeing each other every 10 days after six months isn't getting anybody anywhere. You both deserve to know if this will work, and you're willing to put in the time and energy into finding out. If every 10 days is all she can offer, your head is probably right. This can't grow unless she wants it to.
Readers? Is every 10 days not so uncommon when kids are involved? Am I right to say that discussing the frequency of visits is more productive than discussing the physical intimacy? How slowly is love supposed to grow? Discuss.
– Meredith
He rolls his eyes
This letter makes me rethink all of my facial expressions.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I love your column and am a daily reader. I am writing an uncomplicated letter about a problem that probably goes way deeper than I realize. I am a 50something female in what I consider to be a very strong, loving, committed relationship with a man the same age.
For the second time in my adult life, I find myself in a relationship with an eye-roller. My first eye-roller was a stern, chilly, set-in-his-ways bachelor. Cuddling up to him was like trying to cuddle up to the statue of Abe Lincoln at the Lincoln Memorial. Many times when I said something to him that I thought was thoughtful, deep, interesting, etc., he would respond by slightly turning away and rolling his eyes. When I called him on it, he would become unresponsive. Needless to say, the relationship went nowhere and ended after about six months.
Fast forward to my present relationship, which has thrived over the past year and a half. We love each other and the relationship is strong. Of course, many issues have come up. At our age we both bring long histories and lots of baggage into the relationship. We have learned to talk to each other in a productive, loving way.
Last Sunday, woops, he rolled his eyes at something I said. It's about the third time he has done it, and was the first time I realized that this is something that has come up before for me. I am very concerned that again, there might be a dynamic of disrespect in the relationship, something that might be a dealbreaker for me.
He rolled his eyes when I brought up feeling hurt that he was not listening to what I was saying. When I called him on the eye rolling, he admitted it and kind of laughed but then tried very hard to tune into what I was saying. The conversation went well and I felt satisfied.
When I thought about all I know about my how he treats me and how our relationship has gone, I felt that he was not disrespecting me. I think that he rolled his eyes because he felt frustrated. He has told me a couple of times that he thinks everything is going great, then I bring up something uncomfortable and he feels "ambushed." This happened again, and I think the eye rolling was simply his frustration, that once again, he didn't see it coming.
I would like some insight into the eye rolling. Is it always disrespectful, or can it simply be frustration? Thank you in advance for your responses. I hope this letter is clear and doesn't leave out a lot of important details. I hope I expressed the piece that is really bothering me and have provided enough background to help folks give me some insight into this painful issue.
– Girldog, Massachusetts
A: Girldog, you've come to the right place. I am an eye roller. Even worse, I am a lip purser.
My eye rolls and lip purses are caused by many things. I tend to do one or the other when I am annoyed, when I feel threatened, when I haven't slept enough, when I think someone's being sexist, when I'm overreacting, when there's no more Diet Coke in the soda machine at work, and yes, when I'm being disrespectful.
I understand that you're sensitive to eye rolls because of your last relationship, and that's fair. It’s an awful thing to feel disrespected and belittled. I'm glad you're no longer dating Abe Lincoln.
But not all eye rolls are created equal. It sounds like your partner's eye rolls are his initial reaction to a difficult discussion. Like he said, it's about being ambushed. Once he figures out what's going on, he softens with respect. He's rallied pretty well, don't you think?
That's the important part, what happens after the defensive eye roll.
My guess is that you have some scary/patronizing/confusing facial expressions you don't even know about because you're not holding a mirror. I think you can give his occasional frustrated facial expressions a pass.
I have a pretty strong feeling that many of our readers are eye rollers. Readers? What do the eye rolls mean? Is she being patronized? Is there a way she can stop ambushing? Should he be allowed to eye roll? Anyone dating/married to an eye-roller? Discuss.
– Meredith
Do I walk if he doesn't propose?
Boil this letter before consuming.
Q: So to start, I am 23 and my boyfriend is 28. We have been together for four years now. After about a year together things got serious, we moved in soon after, and have been living together for about three years. I never wanted to get married (and yes, I've been in love before). I saw my parents relationship turn to something horrible, and I have always said I didn't see why people need a piece of paper to prove anything. Until now. I want to marry my boyfriend.
We have had the "future talk" and he says that he doesn't know what he would do with out me and that he knows that I am the woman he wants to marry. With our four-year anniversary coming up this month, I have brought up the marriage thing again. He says that he knows he will ask me but that he does not know when. He said that he would like to be more financially stable, and that there is nothing wrong with our relationship so why do we need to change it. He also points out the fact that he has at least three friends that have been in relationships for seven to 15 years and are not married still.
I have never said, "I want to be married within ...," and I have always said that I would never give a guy an ultimatum. I have said that when I'm ready, I will make sure the guy knows, and then it's up to him to make his move. I've said that if he did not make a move in the time I thought was acceptable, the relationship would be over. Although I did not state that five years is my deadline, I did make it obvious that five years is my time frame before I would walk out. When I said that I would just leave, my bf said he didn't think that was true -- that I wouldn't just up and leave over getting married. I explained that if I gave a guy an ultimatum I would always feel that he only married me b/c I was ready, even though he wasn't. I would just leave and never look back and think "what if" because I would know that I put everything I could into the relationship and it didn’t work. Soooo ... is it wrong to walk away after five years if we are not engaged -- or if our relationship is good should a piece of paper not really matter?
– Hopeless Romantic, Westborough
A: HR, you say you're not giving him an ultimatum, but "I did make it obvious that five years is my time frame" means you have. Just because you've passive-aggressive about the deadline doesn't mean it's not an ultimatum. He knows that if he doesn't make a move within the next year, he may lose you. And he's already said he's calling your bluff. He doesn't think you'll actually leave. He's matching your passive-aggressive behavior with his own. Awesome.
It seems crazy to walk from a good relationship because you've set an arbitrary deadline based on what makes you feel comfortable. Wanting a proposal after four years isn't crazy. But what does it mean to you? Why do you need it? Do you fear that he's not being honest about his intentions? Is this about needing security? Or is it just that you feel as though a person should be able to commit after five years and that there's something wrong if he can't?
You seem to know that the important thing isn't the wedding or the paper. You know that it's more important that you both share the same goals and that you both intend to follow through. Your boyfriend seems to share your promise and your plan, except for the marriage thing. Are you worried that he won't follow through? If so, you need to explain that to him.
It seems to me that the two of you define "marriage" rather differently. For him, it's a party celebrating what already exists. For you, it's about solidifying a promise.
Abandon all deadlines. Abandon all rules. Just sit down and talk to him about what you want without being passive-aggressive about it. Instead of threatening each other, talk about what you want and how you can get there without rushing him or making you wait 15 years. That seems to be what’s missing here -- a simple conversation to come up with a plan that suits both your needs.
Readers? Should she walk if he doesn't meet the deadline? After four years, should he know? Is this about him not knowing? Is it OK to want to wait 15 years if the status quo is good? And ... is this just about different perceptions and definitions of marriage? Share.
– Meredith
He flirts while drunk
Discussion boards on the right of the page. Love Letters/Extra Bases party June 4.
The booze chapter of the Love Letters book will be a thick one ...
Q: First of all, love the column. Best 10 minute break in my work day, when I discreetly pull up Love Letters on the computer. I'm a sucker for a good story and even better advice.
I will try to be succinct with this one -- I'm 27, he's 31. We've known each other for four years and realized that we had romantic feelings for each other almost two years ago. Things are great and not so great, but that's par for the course as people get to know each other more intimately and eventually live together (which we do). We always work through things by communicating our concerns/feelings/etc. I love him-- he's amazing and supportive, gives into my crazy whims, and is just ideal in every way (I know I'm setting myself up with that phrase, but the whole good-on-paper thing is true here). Anyway, I totally have baggage with our relationship ...
Just before we started to "officially" date, we tested out the waters with date-like activities and grilled cheese types of sleepovers. As it turns out, he was also dating three other people at the time but never told me. OK, fair enough, we weren't in a relationship, and I knew that if I wanted to be with him, I had to forget about what happened before he and I became "us."
Fast forward to the present. He has a lot of girl friends with whom he plays co-ed sports. I'm good with that -- I have a lot of guy friends. On occasion, when we're out drinking, he might touch one of the girl teammates a little more than he should or just say something odd. I've confronted him about it. He is always apologetic. Mind you, this has happened maybe once or twice, and yes, I've gotten to know most of his teammates, male and female, just because they are super nice people I see out a lot.
BUT, what do I do when he is blatantly drunk and does something obnoxious right in front of me? We were at the Hong Kong (before it burned down), and he apparently grabbed some girl's rear. I only know because the girl yelled at him about it when I was trying to leave the bar. This past weekend we were out, and just before last call, we were standing near the doorway when he started texting some girl I don't know and gave her a pet name in the text (not a harmless one either). I only know this because I was standing right beside him and looked over at his phone while he was typing.
I'm a wreck. I always thought I was smarter than this, staying in a relationship with a guy who does dumb things when he is drunk.
I question where this leaves us and our future. At some point (and maybe it's now), he has to know that drunken antics at our age when we have started talking about our future together are not okay. So … what do I do? Am I making too much of this?
– Trying to be Trusting, Boston
A: TTBT, you're not making too much of this. He can't handle alcohol. It makes him do very, very dumb things like flirt with women while you're standing right next to him.
And ... what happens if you don't join him for one of these nights out? How can you trust that the flirting won't cross the line or that the woman whose rear he grabs next won't reciprocate?
His behavior is ridiculous. But what bothers me even more is that he knows he has upset you and misbehaved, yet he continues to drink and put your relationship at risk. Does that mean he's comfortable with this behavior? You'd think that he'd feel so silly about what he's done that he'd avoid the late-night bar scene and stick to the sports.
Another talk is in order. A real one. Apologies are useless at this point. There needs to be a real solution to the problem. Is he willing to stop drinking to save the relationship? Even if he does stop drinking, will you be able to trust him when you're not around? Does he see himself on the Scorpion Bowl scene in another year or two?
Have the talk you've been avoiding. And have it with yourself, too. Is there anything he can do to make you feel safe within the relationship? If not, start making your own plans. Becuase when your gut tells you that you're not safe, you probably aren't.
Readers? If he stops drinking, should she stay with him? Does his need to pursue women while drunk mean that he's not really committed? Should he have to stop drinking? Will he grow out of this? Does his past (dating three women while having pajama parties with the letter writer) have anything to do with his present? Thoughts.
– Meredith
Is this relationship worth saving?
You'll notice that there are discussion boards -- or champagne rooms, as I like to call them -- on the side of our page. Feel free to enjoy them. I was reading them last night. Very amusing.
In other news, our next Love Letters event is officially June 4. We'll be co-hosting the party with Extra Bases. Love and baseball. It will be like a Kevin Costner movie. More details to come.
Today is chat day.
Oh -- and before I forget, check out the cover story of the food section.
Q: Oh Meredith,
I'm stuck in a very painful spot in my relationship. We've been together for almost two years and we couldn't be farther apart from one another. A few months into our relationship when things were still new and unsure, I committed an indiscretion. After much pain and turmoil, we pushed past it and tried to make things work. We moved in together a few months later.
Almost a year since we moved in, we've become more like roommates than partners. We are very different people (which I knew would be an issue) but it's reaching a breaking point. He's very compartmentalized, shows little to no emotion, and justifies it by saying that emotion is a waste of energy. He's had a painful few years, lost his mother the summer before we met, and has constant family tension.
I'm an artist by nature, emotional and sentimental. We've had numerous conversations about our relationship and differences over the past few months. He's made countless remarks that degrade my sentimentality and emotion, simply because he doesn't understand it. Talks turned into emotional fits (on my part) and that spawned his anger about my "waste of energy."
I bought a new computer, (I had been without one for months) and he is suspicious of everything I do. I've been open and honest with him about everything, yet he still gives me suspicious looks and makes comments.
I'm trying to let my actions speak in showing my devotion and love for him, but it's come to the point where I feel like I'm beating my head against the brick wall he lives in.
I want to regain the passion and magic that we once had, but a recent health issue has made grilled cheese non-existent. I also feel my attempts at romance go completely unnoticed, even when he says he appreciates it. I know my actions are still the big elephant in the room, but after months of attempts at romance and feeling like I'm getting nothing in return, should I press on and try to find our common ground or accept that no matter how much I love him, he's not the right person for me?
– At the end of my rope, Jamaica Plain
A: ATEOMR, you forgot to give us the list of the things you like about him. You forgot to tell us the good stuff. What was so great about him in the beginning? What made you want to stay with him after your early indiscretion?
I fear that what keeps you around is guilt -- and your need to make things right even when they aren't. You weren't into him enough in the beginning to be faithful, but you went out of your way to prove to him that you wanted to work through it. Since then, he has dismissed your feelings and made you feel bad about your natural temperament, but you've done your best to keep the relationship afloat. You've gotten used to treading water and doing constant repairs to make things work. Sounds exhausting.
I don't like telling people to break up. It feels wrong, especially when I don't have all of the details. But I will say that your letter is quite telling. Many letter writers feel the need to give me a long list of their partner's qualities before telling me what's wrong. Your letter, on the other hand, is basically a list of bad things without any good. Does that mean there wasn't much good to begin with? I have no idea. It certainly means that you're not seeing much good in the present.
Your homework: Make a list of your partner's positive attributes, all of the things you forgot to tell us about. Don't just make it in your head -- use a pen and paper. As you write down each attribute, make note of when you last saw him exhibit that attribute. If you haven’t seen these positive characteristics since the very beginning of your relationship, it may be time for a change.
And for the record, I don’t think your indiscretion is the big elephant in the room. It's the small elephant in the room. The big elephant is your inherent differences, the fact that you partner thinks your feelings are a "waste of energy."
Readers? What can we glean from the lack of positivity in his letter? Is this about his early indiscretion? Is our letter writer simply over-sensitive? Should the letter writer’s guy get a pass because he’s had so many life issues? Discuss.
– Meredith
My crush and my boss
This one's long, juicy, and complicated. Just remember as you read my answer: I don't work in human resources.
Q: Oh Meredith,
This one is both an ethical and a love question and I am in dire need of advice. Literally, three careers could hang in the balance.
I'm an intern at a fairly large corporation here in Boston. (For obvious reasons, the company will remain nameless, but trust me, you've heard of it.) I've been working there for several months and I love every aspect of my job. If I had my way, it's where I'd work full-time once I graduate in about a year.
One of the great things about my already fantastic job is my fellow intern, who I will call Jim. He goes to the same university as me (though we hadn't met before this job) and we really get along well. I've come to consider him a close friend, and, if I'm being honest with myself, I've always hoped that it would become something more after we finish our internships. The flirting has been undeniable, and it seems apparent to others in the office judging from some lighthearted comments from coworkers about how we'd be perfect for each other.
Everything between us had been innocent until the entire department went out for drinks a couple months ago. We all got a little more intoxicated than we should have and Jim and I were put in a cab to go to our separate homes. The details are hazy, but I do specifically remember some very clumsy making out happening in the back of that cab. Though we never talked about it, we continued to grow closer and closer.
Now fast forward to last week, when things got complicated. Jim confided in me that he and a coworker of ours, who I'm calling Karen, have been making grilled cheeses and having late night pajama parties together for about a month now. Karen is a decade older than us. She's also our boss. To be fair, she didn't hire us (someone above her did that), but we do answer to her and work with her all day. Obviously Karen is an idiot for starting something with an intern, I know that much, but my problem is with how I reacted to the whole thing.
I literally felt sick to my stomach when he told me. He made me swear I wouldn't tell anyone because of the obvious consequences, but it's really starting to affect my work life in terms of how comfortable I am in the office with the two of them. Karen is not aware that I know.
I ended up telling Jim that we could be friends but I never want to hear about his and Karen's activities ever again. So that's where I left the situation with him for now. Oh -- and just so you know, we did sign documents at the beginning of our internship promising that office romances with full-time employees would not happen.
My question is: What's the appropriate reaction in this situation? I'm trying my best to make sure that it’s my logic that’s running the show and not my jealousy. It's hard to do this without an outsider's perspective. Can I be friends with Jim? Should I mention something to my friend and boss Michael Scott? How do I deal with Karen?
I wish I could forget I know, but now it's become a larger-than-life elephant in the room.
Thanks for any insight. Hopefully you can help me sort this out before I explode!
– Pam, Boston
Pam sent this update yesterday:
I talked it out with Jim. He said that he's basically just having pajama parties with Karen for the thrill of it. He also said that he's considering ending it and that he’s sad that he doesn't have a chance with me. (Because I told him he didn't. I don't want anybody's sloppy seconds.)
The problem gets more complicated, because I find myself wanting him anyway (unbeknownst to him, of course). I was hoping that my disgust about the situation and its ethical consequences would deter my attraction to him, but it hasn't seemed to at all.
So do you think I should keep trying to keep my feelings out of the equation and attempt to stop being attracted to him? Should I give in and tell him about what I'm really thinking in the hopes that he'd pick me over Karen? Should I get Karen fired? (Just kidding about the last one. That's not what I'm worried about. I promised that under no circumstances will I say anything ever. I'm a woman of my word.)
A: Your original question seemed to be about how to cope in the office, but your update implies that you're more concerned with your feelings for Jim. That makes life easier for me. As I said before, I don't work in human resources.
No one in this scenario is sloppy seconds, Pam. Jim liked you first. He made out with you long before he allowed himself to be seduced by Karen. I want to dislike him for not acknowledging the cab make-out after it happened, but you didn't either. You've both been passive-aggressive about this crush. You're both to blame for the relationship not moving forward.
I also want to dislike Jim for giving into Karen, but as he said, it's a thrill. A stupid thrill, but a thrill nonetheless. Jim is young. He's still learning that his romantic actions have consequences. That's not shocking, assuming that he's still in college. And that's why this sounds like classic sexual harassment to me.
I blame Karen for this, which is why I wouldn’t feel too icky about Jim. I mean, go ahead and feel icky that Jim and Karen have been together, but don't assume that Jim is now somehow tainted forever. He's in the middle of a big life lesson and it sounds like he's already figuring that out.
You're also in the middle of a life lesson. Jim has to learn to think before he acts, and you need to learn to put your feelings on the line. Tell Jim that you were hoping for more after the cab make-out session but that you didn't have the courage to tell him at the time. Then explain that the Karen situation made you feel icky about him, but that you still hope there's potential for him to have a non-icky relationship with you.
My guess is that he'll drop Karen and jump at the chance to be with you. That seems to be what he wants to do. If it turns out that you're not what he wants, well, you put yourself out there, and you'll never have to wonder.
My fear, of course, is that after he does decide to be with you, Karen won't be a happy boss. Please know that if she does make life difficult for you (or Jim), you can always run to HR (Toby) or Karen's boss (Michael Scott). That's your right no matter what promises you've made.
Readers? Is Jim immature and a victim of sexual harassment or is he just a cad? Should Pam tell Jim how she really feels? Should she even consider Jim after what’s happened with Karen? Discuss.
– Meredith
Coping with my boyfriend's divorce
Some business:
My friend/colleague Geoff Edgers made a wonderful movie that's playing at the Somerville Theatre on Saturday night as part of the Independent Film Festival Boston. It's called "Do It Again," and it's about Geoff's quest to reunite his favorite band, the Kinks. It's very funny and has some great appearances by Sting, Zooey Deschanel, Robin Hitchcock -- and me. I'm only in it for about a minute, but I still like to tell people that I'm starring in a movie with Zooey Deschanel. I can't imagine I'll ever be able to say that again … unless they do make "Love Letters: The Movie" and Zooey plays ... Alice? BackBayBabe?
Anyway, you can buy tickets to the screening here, but Geoff is giving us a pair for free. If you want them, write two sentences explaining why and send them to meregoldstein at gmail.com. Make sure the subject line says "PICK ME GLENN" – because rocker/Love Letters guy Glenn Yoder will be going through my e-mail and picking the winner. Submissions are due tomorrow at 9 a.m. Glenn will contact the winner by 5 p.m. tomorrow.
Speaking of Glenn, he'll be running today's chat while I'm out of the office for a trip. Be nice to him.
Q: Long time listener, first time caller --love your show! Now, down to business. Here's my situation: My boyfriend and I have been together six months. It was love at first sight. It was magical. We're inseparable. I want him and us forever. He wants/feels the same. We talk about the future. I'm 28. He's 31. I've dated a handful of good, quality guys through my 20s, some for a couple months, some for a couple years. I've had single time to learn who I am and what I'm looking for. I wasn't ready to talk "future" until I met this one. Everything is different and I've never been happier.
Here's my "but." Here's my dilemma. Here's why I'm writing. Technically, he's still married. He was married for seven years. They had been separated for two years when he and I started dating. There is no question that the pending divorce will happen. However, over the course of our six months together, more and more details have come out regarding exactly what the divorce road is going to look like for him/us. Long story short, the soon-to-be-ex is a feisty one. They own a house together (she lives there -- he has his apartment). They own a time share together. They have multiple credit cards in both of their names. His father receives financial assistance and for some reason those checks go to her name only. They still share car insurance. Since it's not legally over, he's still getting her benefits deducted from his check. He transfers money to her personally every month, not to the actual cards or banks. I conclude that she's feisty from the many interactions that I've witnessed and heard about. One day they'll talk and she'll be happy and cooperative. The next day they talk, she'll be crying, upset, profane, hang up, not return calls, or even drop the "I love you" on him. I understand this means reality is setting in for her. When I bring up my opinion/suggestion/advice such as paying the banks directly and taking initiative to get this stuff taken care of, I am met with his desire to not "rock the boat." He has explained that he's waiting until the divorce is complete to push anything else because he's scared she'll retaliate, get attorneys, push them further in debt, etc. Since I learned of this relationship (he told me on our third date), I have tried to prepare myself for whatever direction this road is going to take. I believe my boyfriend and our future together is worth going through this.
One more important detail. He moved for me -- across several states. They don't see each other. There is no potential for that. Also, he lived with a roommate for those two years they were separated. Lately though, I've been fearful that this isn't going to end. He's made a couple comments about how in the future, maybe he'll check in with her on her birthday or maybe they'll be friends on Facebook when all of this if over. For some reason I've been OK with everything we're currently dealing with, but now I'm beginning to think she will never go away.
My questions/concerns I hope you and your readers can help me with are: Am I living in a fantasy world thinking she'll just disappear when this is over? Why wasn't this taken care of before we met? Am I being pushy? How do I continue to deal with this situation (that I'm convinced could take years with debt and house)? Am I over-reacting? Am I entitled to be uncomfortable? How do I avoid resentment that I can offer him 100 percent but I can’t have the same in return….yet?
– Want Him All To Myself, Waltham
A: You're right, WHATM. Your boyfriend has been passive about separating from his ex. That's something to resent, for sure. Postponing necessary conflict out of fear is one thing when you're only worried about yourself. It's another thing when it hurts your current partner. I get that he doesn't want to rock her boat, but he should be worried about rocking yours. Your boat is just as important.
This is bound to be a bumpy ride. It's debt and divorce, after all. But he can help by explaining his plan and timeline to you and by making sure that he follows through. He can help himself by seeking advice from a financial expert. Perhaps he can see someone with his ex so that everyone knows the plan and that there's a witness to an agreement.
At the end of the day, you can't control what he does. You can't put him and his ex in a room and force them to map out their divorce. You can only advise. But you can expect his honesty, and you have every right to demand a timeline. I think that if you know his goals and believe that there are some deadlines, you'll be less resentful and frustrated. Demand to know the plan. If there isn't one, well, he's rocking everyone's boat. Make that known.
As for the birthday/Facebook thing ... well, I'm not worried about that. Feisty or not, this woman was your boyfriend's wife. At some point, they loved each other so much they invested in a time share. It's not surprising that he fantasizes about sending her a birthday card or messaging her on Facebook. It doesn't mean that he ever will. It's just that divorce is hard and he dreams of a time when he and his ex can look back on their relationship with a nostalgic smile. Even if he has moved on and is in love with you, he's still going to have mixed emotions about the end of a seven-year relationship.
Readers? Does the letter writer have the right to push her boyfriend to be more aggressive about the split? Is it weird that her boyfriend still shares accounts with his ex? Is it wrong for the boyfriend to want to remain in contact with the ex? How can the letter writer avoid resenting everyone and feeling helpless? Discuss.
– Meredith
Has he really changed?
Hello, I'd like you to meet Class-A Hottie and his beautiful girlfriend, McCrazypants.
Q: I'm a recent grad who's relocated back to Boston. I maintained an on-again off-again relationship throughout college with a guy I went to high school with. Yes, we dated for part of high school, and no, I never imagined that we would still be romantically involved. I'm generally a person who knows what I want, and this guy possesses many of the qualities that I admire most in others. He's a great listener, very sensitive, has loads of personality, loves his family, has tons of ambition and if that weren't enough, is a Class A Hottie. He never makes me feel less than gorgeous and amazing, and is really and truly a catch. I love him, and I don't doubt that he loves me.
You may now be asking yourself "What's the big issue, McCrazypants?" The issue is that these qualities have only just resurfaced in the past six months, and only after years of an again-off-again relationship (OAOAR) that had me constantly doubting myself. Throughout our OAOAR, he was unreliable, selfish, and unwilling to compromise to make time for me.
Just how dreadful was he? Rewind to 2008 when he stood me up on my birthday because he had gotten so drunk with his buddies at school that he couldn’t drive. That was the pinnacle of his horrible non-committal behavior that ultimately led to me checking out of a relationship that was making me sink like the Titanic. After slapping myself in the face for having wasted my time with this loser (who was also one of my best friends), we finally broke up for real.
Fast forward to almost a year after graduation, and he's a new man. We're living in the same city for the first time, and after taking a hiatus from our relationship, he emerged from his dreadful self-centered cocoon as a catch. We started seeing each other again about five months ago, after he made it clear that he wanted to be together. I took a leap of faith and decided that this would be my last ditch effort. I figured I would always regret never trying to make it work in ideal circumstances (i.e. fresh start, same city etc.). I didn't expect it to work, but it's been working more than wonderfully.
The problem is that I can't stop thinking about the past. He's acknowledged his shortcomings, apologized for them, and has expressed that he had a major epiphany regarding what an oaf he'd been and how important I was to him. I believe him, his actions speak to this, and while I can forgive, forgetting has been the hard part. However, I can't get the wise voice of my grandmother that echoes in my head saying: "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." I want to trust him, I want to move on with this new amazing guy that has finally gotten his act together. BUT, do I just forget the past? Do I go with the flow and see what happens, or do I listen to Granny who's telling me that ex's and on-again-off-agains are just that for a reason?
– Mr. Right Over-Night, Massachusetts
A: I know your grandmother's line, MRON. "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me." Or as the great Michael Scott on "The Office" once said, "Fool me once, strike one. Fool me twice … strike three."
Usually I'm with Michael Scott and your grandma, but your letter involves a college romance. I don't consider college students to be normal humans. I mean, they're real people and they're capable of love, but they live in a world that celebrates selfish behavior. They're socialized to believe that they're supposed to have fun no matter what, that they're choices are temporary, and that they're only in training for adulthood.
Start thinking of this on-again five months as the first five months of your real, adult relationship. If there's a misstep now, you can invoke Grandma's rule. Until then, assume there won't be a misstep. Because there might not be. It's a new world, one that no longer looks like a keg party. Your boyfriend has decided that he wants you to be a part of his new life.
Try to stop bracing yourself until he gives you reason. I'm giving him a do-over.
Readers? It's me vs. Grandma. Is Grandma right to say that he'll probably want to be off-again at some point? Or am I right to say that the post-college him is a new guy? Should she be so serious with a high school boyfriend right after college? Discuss.
– Meredith
He moved on really fast
Happy marathoning.
Letter from a lurker.
Try not to picture Evan Lysacek as you read. Or do, if that makes it more interesting.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I am a daily reader of your column, and I've even been to a Love Letters event in the past. I am also a major lurker (non-commenter). I think you and your readers have some wonderful advice, and now I have a problem of my own.
To give you some context, I am 28 years old, have a great job and great friends, have dated a lot, and had a handful of serious boyfriends in my day. Back in January, I broke up with my boyfriend of over a year (let's call him Evan). Evan was the most intense relationship of my life. I was almost instantly a part of his family and was invited to holidays and went on vacations with them after only a few months. Evan did have some baggage, however. More than a year before meeting me, he ended a bad relationship with someone he had lived with after dating her for only a few months. Although he had her move out shortly after she moved in, he ended up dating her for another 2 years (she was going through some family stuff and Evan felt like he couldn't leave her until she had some stability in her life, which I actually respected and thought made him a better person).
Anyway, despite how welcoming and open he was with me in some ways, he kept certain things very close to the vest. He liked to reserve nights apart from me so that he could sleep better (he also preferred to be intimate only once or twice a month, which I made clear wasn't enough for me). We lived an hour apart, but he refused to give me a key to his apartment, even if it meant that I repeatedly needed to sit in my car and wait for him in his driveway if he was running late for work. He also mainly preferred that we only spend time with his friends and family, and the times when he would agree to leave his hometown and visit my friends and family became few and far between. Eventually it became clear to me that even though he might love me, he didn't love me enough and I deserved a lot better. Despite all that, I was terrified to be the one to end it, and when he finally initiated the break-up conversation, I was devastated but also somewhat relieved/grateful. We agreed that we loved each other, but that things had probably started out too quickly and that in the end, we didn't have enough in common (both in lifestyle and personality) to stay together. We kept in touch to a small degree through emails; his mother and brother-in-law both also called and emailed to check in on me as the weeks went by. As for me, I started seeing a therapist just to make sure I was being mentally healthy about everything (my therapist thought I was doing great!), and about a month after breaking up I joined an online dating service and even had a "rebound" relationship that lasted about a month and a half. All my friends and family were extremely proud of the way I was handling things and how realistic I seemed to be about dealing with my pain but also trying to move on.
Cut to this weekend when it became clear through a sudden flurry of not-so-subtle Facebook posts that not only was Evan seeing someone new (who looks a lot like me, but that's neither here nor there!), his friends were referring to her as his girlfriend. One of his best female friends, with whom I'd been extremely close throughout the relationship, suddenly removed me from her book club and "de-friended" me on Facebook (and apparently in life). I guess most readers would say that this is to be expected after a relationship ends, but I'm thrown by the suddenness of it. While I was taking it slow and being very sensitive to Evan's feelings in my own dating escapades, keeping them private, etc., he had a new, official girlfriend and he doesn't seem to care at all about my feelings on the subject. It appears from Facebook that that they started dating only a month and a half after we broke up.
I guess there are two things really bothering me about it: 1. He apparently didn't learn a lesson from dating me or his ex, and still becomes very serious very quickly with girls he's dating, which implies that maybe this is his MO. And if that's the case, I keep thinking that never really loved me. And 2. If this was a year from now, I'd say he owed me nothing, but I feel like the fact that he started dating somebody only a month after breaking up with me (and since we've been in touch), he might have given me a heads up that she existed so that I didn't need to find out about her this way. In the meantime, I'm definitely mirroring Sally in "When Harry Met Sally" -- totally fine when she breaks up with her boyfriend until she finds out months later that he's marrying somebody else, and suddenly she's a complete mess and bawling to Harry on the phone.
Anyway that's the long, drawn-out story, but my question to you and your readers is this: Do I have the right to be hurt by Evan's lack of sensitivity to me? Is it possible that he never really loved me at all? Why does it bother me so much that his friend kicked me out of her life? Don't worry, I am not going to do anything rash and call him out on it. I'm writing to you instead. :) Please note that I never harbored any ideas that we were going to get back together; there were obviously a lot of broken things in our relationship. A little piece of my heart might always love him and cherish the memories I had with him, but I look forward to meeting Mr. Right someday, and I know he's not Evan. In the meantime, any suggestions for how to best move on, be strong and get over this type of pothole in the road to recovery from a breakup would be appreciated.
– Trying to Move On, Boston
A: TTMO:
1. Yes, getting serious too fast is Evan's routine. But that doesn't mean he didn't care for you. It just means his routine got in the way of loving you right. It means that at the end of the day, Evan is still Evan. There's only so much love he can give, at least for now.
2. You asked if you have the right to feel miserable about his Facebook behavior and his quick commitment to this new person. My answer is that you have the right to feel however you feel. The quicker you admit that feeling and experience it, the quicker you can move on.
3. His female friend was trying to do you a favor. She probably thought that by de-friending you in life and on Facebook, she'd be sparing you exposure to Evan's recent choices. She's Evan's person, not yours. She could have been more diplomatic about her disappearance, but she's doing the right thing. It doesn't mean that she doesn't like you.
4. If we're going to invoke "When Harry Met Sally," let's go all the way with it, shall we? Sally doesn't wind up with Joe, her ex who gets married. She winds up with a sillier guy who treats her like a best friend and wants to spend all of his time with her. So there. Joe is just a step along the way. Joe is a learning experience. Evan is your Joe. It's your job to go out there and look for a Harry.
5. You'll get over Evan by removing all evidence of him on Facebook, surrounding yourself with some new faces, hanging out with your good friends, and by repeating this sentence, which you wrote yourself: "A little piece of my heart might always love him and cherish the memories I had with him, but I look forward to meeting Mr. Right someday, and I know he's not Evan."
I'm with your therapist. You're doing great. This part is supposed to be hard.
Readers? Thoughts? Did Evan really love her? Is it weird that his female friend disappeared? Is the letter writer allowed to feel this miserable if she knows better? Discuss.
– Meredith
No one takes me seriously
Confessions of a party girl ...
Q: My situation is that I am fresh out of college, 22 years old, and love to go out and have fun. I was in one serious relationship at the beginning of college, and once I got a taste of the partying single life, I was hooked.
I don't take anything or anyone seriously when I go out. I find myself engaging in one night stands often, without a second thought. In the past four years I have truly liked one person that I have gone home with. It obviously didn't work out because otherwise I would not be writing this letter.
Recently, I ended up going home with a guy who I definitely did not like. But for the night, it was fun. He continued to call me and promise me the world. Who doesn't like a little attention? So I went with it, never took it seriously, but enjoyed dating while it lasted … for a whole three weeks. When it ended, it ended on his terms because "I was too much like him and he doesn't think he would be able to trust me when I went out without him.” And I picked up where I left off with my lifestyle choices, no harm no foul.
And even though he wasn't who I wanted to be with, I could not get past the fact that he ended things. Then I got to thinking … maybe it's not me who doesn't take anyone seriously ... maybe it’s everyone not taking me seriously.
And worse, I don't want to change. I like being spontaneous and meeting new people. I like no limits or restrictions, and I don't think I could say no to an opportunity to have fun with a guy in hopes of finding chemistry. I am not shut off to relationships and just being with one person. I would love nothing more than to find someone to be with and love consistently. I know that I do not have an unfaithful bone in my body so if I met the right person I could be content. But I just don’t know why none of these guys to want to be with me all the time, and not just after the bar. And more disconcerting is the fact that I don't see myself slowing down unless I meet Mr. Right. I guess what I'm wondering is, do I have to change my outgoing, willingness to meet new people, party girl personality in order to meet anyone?
I mean we're all looking for someone to love and care about us long term ... but while I wait for that guy, is there something wrong with so many Mr. Right Nows?
– Confused, Concerned, and Maybe a Little Bit Promiscuous in Waltham
A: I think it's fine that you're running around town, meeting new people, and being 22, CCAMALBPIW. Most people wish they had done a bit more of that when they were 22. If I could take a hot tub time machine back to 22, I would take things a bit less seriously … probably with guys in Paw Sox caps. (At 22, I was living in Providence.)
The real question here is whether getting intimate with these guys so quickly and behaving like a party girl ruins your chances of having a solid relationship. My answer is yes and no.
Yes, it matters that you flit around sending out a vibe that you don't take anything seriously. If you're not really getting to know these guys, if you're that girl at the bar hooting the lyrics to "Livin' on a Prayer" while you down another Corona, you might be passed over by some men you'd really like.
That said, I don't think your quickness to go home with people for pajama time disqualifies you from being taken seriously. I mean, yes, there are guys who would never pursue a woman who had a pajama party with them on the first night, but that's quite the double standard. If a guy really digs you and wants to know more about you, he will follow up with a call. This recent guy didn't bail because you were intimate with him quickly. It took him three weeks to realize that you weren't his thing. He wasn't your thing either, and he probably picked up on that vibe.
I'm not endorsing your string of one-nights. But I am saying that you're you, and you should continue to be you. You don't have to go against your instincts to be taken seriously. You said it yourself -- when you meet a guy you actually like, you'll sign on. You might even surprise yourself and have no interest in quick pajama time with a guy who seems like he might have real potential. You haven't met anyone like that yet so it's impossible to know.
My advice is to be the best 22-year-old you that you can be. Don't be the promiscuous party girl who doesn't care about herself or anyone else. Be the party girl who is engaged in great conversations, spirited about love, and comfortable in her own skin. If you're that 22-year-old party girl, I think it's OK.
And maybe talk to some guys outside of bars. Just a thought.
Readers? (A reminder to watch your language so we don’t have a million comments removed.) Is 22 about taking guys home? Is her behavior preventing her from being taken seriously? Discuss.
– Meredith
Am I wasting time?
What are we supposed to know after 18 months?
Also, chat day. 1 p.m.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I'm confused about what to do, if anything, about my boyfriend. Quick background: I'm 41, divorced for 2 years, and have been dating a man for 18 months. We were friendly before we started dating, and for the first few months all was great. About three months into it, he surprised me one night by telling me that he was still getting over a former girlfriend, seeing a therapist, and in general, dealing with massive heartbreak. I never saw any of this until he told me. I was OK with it because the truth is that I was (am) transitioning out of a 15 year marriage and wasn't looking for a serious romance. Since then, we've gone on vacation several times, met each other's families, he gets along great with my kids, gotten closer, etc. I am head over heels.
Cut to present: he says that he loves me, can't imagine life without me but is still dealing with the fallout from the previous woman. I believe he's also going through a mid-life crisis. He turns 50 next year, never been married, no kids, bored with job, etc.
I'm not exactly issue free either. I'm about to start working full time after eight years at home with my kids. My finances aren't great (divorce stuff). I'm pretty much a full-time parent and I've been involved in exactly 3 serious relationships since I was 18. I don't have much casual dating experience.
My dilemma: Someday, I would like to create a family again with someone special. We've been dating for 18 months and the "future" question has come up a few times. I have no clear answer and neither does he. Other than this "future" question, things are good. That said, knowing that I do want a family someday and considering all that we are dealing with as individuals right now, do I stay or do I go? How long to too long for a relationship like this? Am I being an idiot?
– Not so sure anymore, Newton
A:NSSA, I've got questions.
When you say you want to have a family "someday," when do you mean? In a year? In five? When you say you want a family, what do you mean? A man living in your home with your kids? And finally, based on your 18 months with this guy, is this the man you want in your home?
If you can't answer those questions with any certainty, why not enjoy the status quo? He says he can't imagine life without you but that he's not quite ready for more. If you're being honest in your letter, you also have some issues you'd like to deal with before you're ready for a greater commitment.
In think your big question is: Does he secretly know that at some point he's going to bail? Good question. I, too, am sitting here wondering whether he's using the whole heartbreak thing to ward off commitment. Maybe. But my guess is that his "I'm still in pain" line means really means, "I'm not 100 percent with you ... yet." And that's OK for right now. As long as he's not 100 percent out and just isn't ready to make his exit.
Can you ask him if he's hoping that a future with you is possible ... in the future? If his answer is, "Yes, I'm hoping for that," I think that's OK. The status quo is just great if you're both unsure and you have high hopes for growing closer. The status quo is only not OK if he's biding his time before he disappears. Ask him, and I think your gut will be able to interpret his answer.
Readers? Am I being too romantic again? Is he actually incapable of committing? Do you believe his heartbreak issues? Is this reader only pretending she doesn't know exactly what she wants? Should she stick around? Discuss.
– Meredith
She lives with her ex-girlfriend
In the land of women ...
Q: Dear Meredith,
Love your writings and forums. Your perspective is so valuable, and I am certainly in need of some!
I'll start this letter by explaining that lesbians are different. Our "people" tend to live by different "norms" in relationships. My girlfriend and I got together after being friends for many years. We were both in other relationships and each thought that the other was not interested in more than friendship. Once we discovered that we were interested in being more than just friends, we started dating. Lesbians tend to get very serious very fast, which certainly occurred here.
It has been six months and I feel like we have a strong, trusting, and loving relationship. I am happy. Here's the "but" (otherwise I wouldn't be writing): she still lives with her ex-girlfriend and wants me to go to their house to hang out and spend the night. I absolutely believe her when she says that they are friends (almost every lesbian is friends with her exes) and that there is no possibility that they will get back together. On the other hand, she says that her ex is her "best friend." They talk and text daily. They go out together with their friends. I am always invited to hang with them. I have gone occasionally. While seriously awkward, it is somewhat bearable.
However, going to their house is gut wrenching for me. After going there a few times (for dinner and once while the ex was out of town), I won’t do it anymore. It is so incredibly uncomfortable, awkward, and stilted. Her ex is nice enough to me, but won’t look me in the eye and I feel her hurt each time I see her (something my current girlfriend doesn’t see). I went to their house for parties; we all hung out as friends. It will always be their house to me and all I feel when I enter is the energy of their relationship. Even when the ex is not there, all I can think and feel is them together.
While I do not think she will leave me for her ex, I must admit that I am threatened by the relationship. I feel like she has two girlfriends, which is simply not ok with me. I've attempted to explain my feelings in numerous ways and the response I get is that they are friends and I have nothing to worry about. I respond that I am not "worried," it just doesn’t feel right or good to me.
At this point, I have told her that she has to make her own decisions for her -- i.e. whether she wants to stay there or not. She says that she does not have the money to move and likes living where she is living. She doesn't see why she has to move because it is a good place for her. My decision for me is that I will not go to their house.
– Looking for a Place in the Middle
A: LFAPITM, as much as I'd like to tell you to stop generalizing about what lesbians do, I have to admit that many of my lesbian friends manage to have fantastic friendships with former loves without the politics and jealousy I often see in heterosexual relationships. And I also notice that those same lesbians get serious fast. So go ahead. Generalize.
You're meeting all of the expectations of your "people." You don't object to your girlfriend being friends with her ex. You do, however, object to feeling like a third wheel. Fair enough. To be fair, my lesbian friends who pal around with their exes don't live with them. They moved out ... and moved in with their new girlfriends. (What's that old joke about what lesbians bring on a second date?)
Whether you're gay, straight, or other, you're also human. You human gut tells you who's a threat to your relationship and your sanity. Avoiding her house is only a temporary solution. A change in her living situation is a permanent one. I'm not saying she should move in with you, but I am advocating that she find a way to make you both comfortable. If your relationship is that serious, shouldn't it be her priority? What is more important ... her living situation or her current romantic relationship?
You're a lesbian. You're not a robot lesbian. You have feelings. If you're uncomfortable with your girlfriend living with an ex because of the way she interacts with this specific ex, she should respect that. She's basically telling you to shut up about it, and that's not OK. Your demand for her to live somewhere neutral isn't unreasonable.
Tell her what you told us, that you're looking for a place in the middle. Actually, tell her that you're demanding a place in the middle because you want this to work. I hate ultimatums, but that's just where you are.
Readers? Should her girlfriend have to move? Are lesbians supposed to be better at coping with this kind of thing or should we take gender out of the equation? Discuss.
– Meredith
Online and far away
Did everybody see Brownie Husband on "Saturday Night Live"? Tasty.
Q: Meredith,
I'm not sure how to start this letter to you. I have never online dated before. I never really believed in it, nor did I ever know how much I could connect so much with one person. I met, let's call him James, on a local networking site through a friend. Basically we commented on the same update post, he befriended me, and we started chatting. It all sounds very silly I know, and I had never done this before and was of course a little skeptical. I also trust our common friend.
There was an immediate connection. It was funny, and witty, there was flirting and deep thoughts. We talked online, we began to email, be started to call. We sent pictures. We would write the same thing/say the same thing before the other did. I was amazed at how long we could talk .We talked almost every day for five months, for up to four hours. I was blown away by the connection that we had. But I knew that I couldn't make a real assessment unless we actually spent real time together. He was the one who started to mention that we should meet, but I told him that I wasn't comfortable flying across the country to meet someone He understood. (One of his girl friends offered for me to stay with her, but I still declined.)
I was going to the West Coast where my sister lives for the Thanksgiving holiday (it had been five months now), and that’s where he went to college and met out mutual friend. So he offered to meet me in Los Angeles. I was comfortable with this. I was staying with my sister and he was staying with his friend. We met. It was amazing. We continued to talk after that, but it died down. He got a girlfriend, I got hurt. But I understood. We met again during a trip I made to his city. I stayed with a friend. Again it was amazing. Although this time he had a girlfriend. Even though she did not live there, it still hurt me.
I ended communication after that. We both did actually at different times. We always ended up talking again. We have recently (now it’s April) started talking the same way we used to. He is still with the other girl (who does not live there ether) but says he still thinks about me.
There is no denying our connection. We cry, we laugh, and I feel like I know him so well. But I also know that the distance and the fact that he is with someone else ultimately will hurt me.
I have dated other people while we have been talking. But not seriously and have found it hard to find a connection as strong with anyone. I miss him often. He often misses me. We both live out our daily lives but always love talking with each other. We have even fought. It feels like a real relationship at times.
Do I have to let this one go? I can't be the internet "girlfriend" while he has a real one? I feel like I need to move on if there is hope for me meeting someone else. But I must tell you, I have tried. And I always go back to thinking about him.
Any Advice?
– 9 Months of Loving Someone Over the Internet, Boston
A: 9MOLSOTI, I don't know if this thing is real. Neither do you. It seems like it could be. Maybe. And for the record, I think that the way you two met is sort of great. Really, you met through a mutual friend. And you got to know each other in an old-fashioned way, despite the fact that it all happened online.
There's only one way to find out if this thing has potential: commit to finding out. If you're obsessively thinking that some guy on the other side of the country is the lid to your pot (notice I didn't say soul mate), you have to sign on to have a relationship with him. You have to visit as much as you can and make plans for one of you to relocate.
Grown-ups often have to choose between love and geography, romance and work, children and career, family and travel. We live with the loss of one thing for the gain of another. You and James are trying to move on with your lives with other people, but you're failing.
Decide whether you want him. If you do, tell him. And if he feels the same way, see if he'll ditch this new woman and make some real plans. If not, well, you can start the process of minimizing him in your life. But, if he's open to this, take the risk.
Readers? Am I being too romantic about this? How can James be dating someone but thinking about the letter writer? Is he just keeping her on the backburner or is he waiting for her to sign on to this for real? Can you make a big leap with someone you've barely seen in person? Discuss.
– Meredith
Spontaneous or unreliable?
A letter about a guy who definitely has no plans for the weekend.
Q: Oh Meredith,
I need some advice. I recently started dating a wonderful man. We met through work a few months ago. At first he was rather shy, but he always lingered to talk to me, so I finally took things into my own hands and asked him out. He said yes. That was about 6 weeks ago.
Since then, we have been out a handful of times, and within the past week or so are now talking everyday, multiple times a day. He is funny, smart, and kind. We poke fun at each other every day, in a flirtatious way, and have both been open and honest with one another about anything and everything. I feel quite comfortable talking to him.
Now for my dilemma. I feel like I need to have a semi-serious talk with him about something that has recently come up in conversation, but am afraid I'm going to ruin it all (story of my life!). The other day he mentioned that he never plans anything and will take off for a weekend on a whim, regardless of whether he has plans with friends or family. That kind of stung a little, since I am a planner of sorts. That's not to say I can't be spontaneous, but when I make plans with someone I write them down and keep them. My fear with him is that I can never plan fun things -- concerts, Red Sox, etc. Dating him as it is has been somewhat out of my comfort zone as plans have never been concrete. We've had cancellations, reschedules all over. He works very weird hours and never really knows what time he will be done work. Could be 4pm, could be 11pm and he never knows until that day. He's very aloof at times.
When I asked him "What about your family? Dinners? Birthdays, etc.," he responded that with the birthdays, he only cares about his parents and that everyone else can "expletive." Ummmm okay!? So I guess I shouldn't expect anything from him ... ever? That was a little disheartening.
So my question is, do I keep mum and just go with the flow for now and see how things progress? Or do I speak up? What do I say so as to not scare him off? Is this just a front he's putting up? Is it a sign of selfishness? Can he possibly meet me somewhere in the middle?
For the readers: I'm 29 and he is 30. My big 3-0 is coming up quick, so perhaps thats why the birthday comment hurt a little.
– Spontaneity is My Enemy, Boston
A: Speak up, SIME. At six weeks you can't expect much ... but you have every right to expect that someone will respect your time. This guy is already telling you he doesn't want to do that.
This isn't about his job. This is about being considerate. If he said, "It's hard for me to plan, but I'll do my best," that would be fine. If he said, "I love spontaneity," that would be fine, too. But he's saying, in his own words, "I plan to bail on you at the last minute because I'm a super-cool loner." Who needs that at 29? Who needs that at any age?
Explain your expectations. You don’t have to have a big sit-down about it. Just say, "Hey, the cancellations and wishy-washy dinner plans are sort of a drag." I understand that you're worried about scaring him off, but shouldn't he be worried about what you think of him? You've got a busy life, people to see, and a 30th birthday to plan. If he can't manage to keep dates and ask you out in advance, well … there's your answer, and it's his loss. This isn't about you being a planner, it's about him being very weird about time and control.
Call him on it and you'll find out if it's a front. If he's truly "funny, smart, and kind," he'll step it up. Or he won't, and you can make plans to get Red Sox tickets without him.
Readers? Is she asking for too much after six weeks? Or is he hiding behind the spontaneity? What's all this about? Discuss.
– Meredith
He's too close for comfort
Absence makes the heart grow fonder.
Q: I am in kind of a sticky situation. I recently broke up with my boyfriend and we have less than ideal living situations. He is my neighbor. That is how we met and we dated for about 2 1/2 years, on and off. The relationship got really serious really quickly and was great for the first year.
However, after that, we would take breaks and get back together. I think we always ended up back together because we run into each other all the time. This time, I am pretty sure that enough is enough and that we are both ready to move on. We called it off for good about two weeks ago.
My problem is that he is already bringing girls home! He did this other times we broke up, but it wasn't as quick. I would see him leaving with a random girl in the morning. It was uncomfortable, but at least I knew it wasn't serious. On Saturday, I ran into him and a girl in the middle of the afternoon. This morning, I saw her car here when I left for work (I am not a total stalker, but I did see her walk from her car on Saturday!). It might seem weird that we always run into each other, but we do. I think we are both in and out a lot and I have a dog so I am outside walking it, etc.
I am not upset that he is seeing someone. I understand we are both ready to move on, but I am upset at his complete lack of respect for me in doing this. I feel like he should wait a little longer, go to her house, or just not bring girls home.
What makes it even harder for me is that I feel like I don't know the man I loved for the past 2 1/2 years. The guy I fell in love with would never do this to me. He was always such a good guy. I knew we were growing apart toward the end and I am fine with moving on. I know people and things change, but this is from one extreme to the other. It's like he is a completely different person now. I am so uncomfortable living next to this. Any suggestions of how to deal?
– Way Too Close, Boston
A note: the letter writer sent an update saying that her living situation might be changing soon. So there might be some reprieve, although I'm not so sure it matters. With that in mind ...
A: It's annoying that he lives so close, WTC. Obviously. I'm sorry.
To me, the big issue his post-break-up behavior and how it has made you feel about the man you dated. Even if one of you moves, the damage has been done. You feel disrespected. Less loved. You're questioning the whole relationship. And I get that. But … you shouldn't.
We only go out of our way to hurt the ones we love. And this guy has been parading his singleness/dating out there for all (especially you) to see. It doesn't mean that he wants to get back together. It doesn't mean that he wants you to beg him not to date this woman. But it does mean that he's acting out. And that means you mattered. Quite a bit. Even though it didn't work out, your relationship was important.
The good news about the harsh reality of his dating someone else just two weeks after your break-up is that you don't have to play what-if games with yourself. When an ex disappears and we never see them, we can imagine them however we want. We can decide that they're pining for us ... lonely on the couch ... better than they are in reality. His in-your-face dating is going to make it easier for you to move on for good this time.
Also know that it will only be slightly easier if one of you moves. When relationships are difficult to end and involve bad feelings after many years, exes can never be too far away. If they work in the same building, it's shocking to run into them in the cafeteria. (How dare they eat at the same time?) If they live in another state, it's hard to hear that they've stopped in for a weekend visit. (How dare they tread on our territory?)
Until it all seems like ancient history, every ex might as well live next door. It can feel that way even when they don't.
Readers? What does it mean that he's parading around with this woman? How can the letter writer not take it personally? Will it be much easier if one of them moves? Am I right to say that his insensitivity means he actually did care a lot? Discuss.
– Meredith
He failed the birthday test
Good morning. It's chat day.
Q: My boyfriend and I: both in our 30s. Dating: 10 months. I live around Boston; he lives in a bordering state. We see each other mostly on weekends, alternating visits pretty regularly.
This past weekend it was my birthday. About a month or so ago, he asked me how I usually like to celebrate, as it was the first time either one of us was going to celebrate a birthday since meeting. I expressed that it's usually celebrated by dinner with friends, and since this wasn't a "big" number birthday, I anticipated the same thing this year. I also didn't want to tell him how to celebrate my birthday in case he had other ideas.
Rewind to the weekend before my birthday. We were talking about where we were going to spend the birthday weekend, either in his beach town or in Boston, and he suggested that we stay in Boston. He thought I would like to spend it here, and he was right -- I'd been traveling to his place the last few weekends for various reasons. So he said he would "make plans" and think of things for us to do to celebrate.
Fast forward to mid last week. He sent me an e-mail asking for dinner recommendations in Boston so that he could pick a restaurant that I liked. I sent him a few and he called and made a reservation for the first one on my list.
Fast forward to the birthday weekend. He came up Saturday about 4 p.m. We had dinner reservations for 8. He came in wishing me a Happy Birthday weekend with lots of enthusiasm. We went to dinner (location was my idea -- he paid) and drinks afterwards (location was also my idea -- I paid). We woke up this morning and I cooked breakfast and lunch this afternoon.
Here's my issue ... there was no card and no other gift (besides dinner). I told him the restaurant to go to and all he had to do was place the call. I'm feeling like he put in absolutely no other effort this weekend besides placing a call and reaching for his wallet. Granted, dinner was pricey, but I would have much rather had a home cooked meal and receive a small gift/card in order to have him make an effort versus spend money on an expensive dinner. Did I lead him astray in our earliest conversations about how I normally celebrate a birthday? Does he think buying dinner IS making an effort? Or shouldn't he know that he should AT LEAST show up with a card for his girlfriend’s birthday or do I have to teach him? I'm struggling because I feel pretty crappy about it and don't know if I should talk to him or let it go. It's NOT about the money, for me, it's about feeling special and loved and a little effort by him without my input would have meant a lot. Please help!
– Birthday Present Blues
A: I'm going to take this moment to make a Love Letters public service announcement:
1. If you want something for your birthday, say so. Unless you are dating someone who reads minds (Edward Cullen, a Vulcan, etc.).
2. Always do one thing more than you've been asked to do for a romantic partner's birthday. If he/she wants dinner, spring for dinner and a small present. If he/she has asked for a present, get a present and a balloon. As far as I know, no one ever got in trouble for doing too much.
Now back to you, BPB. Yes, you led your guy astray. Your fault. Sorry. You told him that this birthday wasn't a big deal. And yes, he thought that buying the expensive meal was making an effort. I give him a pass not only because you failed to communicate, but also because he wasn't planning the occasion on his home turf. I bet that if you had celebrated in his town, he would have had more ideas for how to celebrate.
It would have been cool if he had exceeded your expectations and one-upped your instructions, but he didn't. You didn't follow my first rule. He didn't follow my second.
I know you're upset, but I wouldn't even tell him you were disappointed. I would simply make a note to yourself to reestablish your expectations the next time a holiday comes around. Before you celebrate anything else -- his birthday, Christmas, etc. -- tell him that you'd like to do gifts. Not expensive gifts, but thoughtful gifts. Tell him that when it comes down to it, you really do like the process of being creative in the name of love. I think he'll understand and plan accordingly. At the end of the day, you would have rather had a less expensive dinner and a cool, unique gift and card. That's fine. But he's not a mind reader.
Readers? Who's at fault here? How can we tell someone that we would like to be celebrated without having to spell it out for them? Is a card required? Should she tell him she was disappointed, even if she takes the blame? Discuss.
– Meredith
Can't stop second-guessing
What about Bob?
Q: Meredith,
I met my ex-boyfriend, "Jack," four years ago and we fell quickly into a serious relationship. The first months were blissful -- quite honestly, the happiest of my life. He poured affection on me, wanted to have lengthy talks about our shared future, and could make me laugh like no one else. But, as so often happens, that first flush of love faded ... for him. He started treating me horribly. But I held onto that man that I "knew" he could be based on those first amazing months. He ended our relationship around the year mark, and I never really got over it. I dated two men fairly seriously after him, and he dated one woman after me. However, we always ended up going back to one another. Not just sloppy, drunken mistakes ... but a pattern of affection and intimacy and dating. I began to feel that no matter what happened in between, eventually we would end up together.
This last happened a little over a year ago now. Jack came wanting to be with me "officially" after I ended my most recent relationship. I told him we needed to take it slow because while I loved him (why, oh why, did I love him?), I had difficulty trusting I wouldn't be left heartbroken. He took this to mean "pull away." I endured this for a month or so, and then, randomly, met another man "Bob," while I was in a limbo of sorts with Jack. There was no instant love with Bob, but a slowly growing affection and comfort that grew into love. Not the topsy-turvy, on-a-knife-edge love I had with Jack, but a content partnership. Jack, "older and wiser", as he said, began actively pursuing me again as I started to date Bob, and for awhile I saw them both casually. Jack pulled one of his jerky moves yet again, and my relationship with Bob was solidified. I would not, could not, live through what Jack would do to me time and again, and I was happy with Bob.
Fast forward to the present. Bob and I own a home together and we envision spending our lives with one another. He is my best friend as well as my boyfriend, and I know I am lucky to have that. This weekend I got an email from Jack -- who, for the past year, has contacted me sporadically to try to get me to change my mind about him and us -- who told me that he was dating someone new he met at work. I figure his email was mostly meant as a manipulation, but I'm sad to say it sort of worked. Since getting that email I have been thinking about Jack and what we once had. I question what it would have been like if I had given him another chance. I feel horribly guilty about even having these thoughts. I know in my head that I picked right ... but why does my heart feel tugged right now? I think I feel ... jealous, for lack of a better word. And I'm ashamed of that feeling. Is it possible to be in love with one person and still have feelings for another?
– Tugged Heart, Boston
A: Wasn't it just last week that we had a letter from a woman who was still thinking about her ex? That letter writer seemed too young for a permanent relationship. She was rushing her future for no good reason.
That's not what's happening with you, TH. You're ready. You've learned lessons. You wised up about what makes a good relationship. In your case, it's all about Bob. Go Bob!
We'll always think about exes, especially the ones who toyed with us, manipulated us, and led us on a crazy chase. Anyone who says otherwise is lying. You know that your positive feelings about Jack represent just a few months out of four years. That's a blip, especially when you consider what you've been able to accomplish with Bob in far less time.
It's OK that your heart feels tugged. It's OK that you occasionally ask yourself, "What if?" We have to suffer through many what-ifs in relationships. They're annoying and distracting. But you're lucky enough to know the real answer to your what-if. What if you had given Jack another chance? Well, I'll tell you what if. If you had given Jack yet another opportunity to confuse you, you'd be writing me a different letter ... and you'd be wondering how to meet a guy like Bob.
Don't feel bad about nagging fantasies and what-ifs. Old feelings don't go away. They're just trumped by new, stronger ones.
Readers? How can she get Jack out of her head? What do her thoughts about Jack have to do with Bob? Are what-ifs normal? Discuss.
– Meredith
Dealing with my demons
A long letter ... but I feel like it's all stuff we need to know.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I am in a bit of a bind here. Not because of the relationship, so to speak, but more because of me in said relationship. Some background first:
When I met my girlfriend, I was married. I wasn't happy in my marriage and neither was my wife, but we never did anything about it. We both just assumed it was an extended "funk."
Well, then I met her. It started off as friendly, then it led to flirting, then it led to transgressions. This took a few months.
Immediately after the first transgression, I knew I had to do something about my marriage. Not for this new girl, but more for the fact that the bad marriage had to end, so I took that transgression as a sign that things needed to change.
So I changed them. Over the course of a few painful months, the marriage ended and all the while this new girl waited in the wings for me not wanting to commit herself to a man who was already committed. Once I was officially "de-committed", we began the slow process of dating. What helped was that since we had met she had moved out of state, so having that distance allowed us to take it slowly. Over the course of that time as well, there were things about me that I wanted to change. I wanted to be a better, different person. Not only for me, but for any partner I would have in the future. I didn't want to make the same mistakes I did when I was married. This new girl, she helped me with that quite a bit. Basically, at the age of 31, I was finally growing up.
This took many months, and I can honestly say I am a MUCH better person now than I ever have been. Because of that, I have a confidence and inner peace that I have never felt before. I know how to recognize and correct my mistakes, and even prevent them from happening. Well, at least I thought I did.
Fast forward to the present day. My girlfriend has since moved back to the Boston area and we have been living together for a few months. Although living together after having a long distance relationship has taken some work, we are both incredibly happy. I am head over heels for this girl. My family loves her. My friends love her. She is everything that I want. But, the old me seems to sneak up and smack me in the face occasionally, and one incident has thrown us for a loop.
I had a female co-worker who I was talking to about a week ago ask me some relationship advice. She was starting to see a new guy, wasn't sure what to do or how she felt, etc. That's not the point. The point is that during our conversation we started flirting and some explicit things were said. Mind you, I had no intentions of ever acting upon them, and I immediately felt guilty about it afterward. The conversation was over text message.
I am open and honest in every way with my girlfriend. I leave my computer open as well as my two cell phones (work and personal), all around the house. I have nothing to hide. Unfortunately, she picked up my phone and saw the conversation I had with the co-worker. And now, as you can imagine, all hell has broken loose. She obviously cannot trust me, especially if you consider my past, and she is unsure about the future of our relationship.
I cannot say it enough: I love this girl with every atom of my being.
I cannot justify what was written and why, nor do I want to, but I know it was wrong and should not have happened. I had no ill intentions with this co-worker and in a million years would not do that to my girlfriend, or anyone else for that matter. It was a moment of idiocy during a time when I though I had nothing but clarity. And I cannot blame my girlfriend for feeling the way she does.
My question is, first, how to I win her trust back? And how do I prevent situations like this from happening again? I love my girlfriend to death, and this incident was pure stupidity on my part; I got caught up in a "moment." I realized what I did and stopped. And the girl I was talking to knew that I wasn't serious and also knew that I loved my girlfriend. It was a weird situation, one that I don't want to be in again.
– Fighting My Former Self, Boston
A: As for winning your girlfriend's trust back, you're going to have to ask her what you should do. It may just take time. She's either into forgiveness or she's not.
As for preventing this from happening again … well, just know that it will.
There are some people who are naturally good at exclusivity. They don't need second and third sources of attention. Cheating doesn't occur to them. Then there are the others, the folks who can't help themselves from seeking out glances, texts, and full-on cheats, even when they're in a happy relationship. We've been reading about those people in the news a lot lately.
Most likely, you're somewhere in the middle. You have selfish desires and you're suffering from a bout of entitlement because of a bad marriage. You may think you took it slow after your divorce, but in reality, you jumped from one relationship to the next without giving yourself time to get the insignificant flirtations out of your system. There was no time to play around with attraction, push limits, and make mistakes. And here you are now, in a serious relationship, totally confused about why you talked up a hot co-worker even though you're happy with your status quo.
My answer is that you did it because you spent a long time justifying that you deserved to do whatever makes you happy so that you could get out of your marriage. And now, after all that self-lobbying, you still feel justified to do questionable things, even though you aren't. All that "I deserve to be happy" stuff you told yourself to make it OK leave your wife ... it no longer applies. You trained yourself to act impulsively. Now you have to undo all that. Start telling yourself that you're no longer entitled. You got what you wanted. That's all you get.
It will help to stop thinking of yourself as a "new self" who is being haunted by an "old self." You're just one self. An evolving self. There's no little devil or angel on your shoulder. There's just you, confronted with choices every day. This is about you making the right choices based on what you want for your future. If you want this girlfriend in your life without having to lie to her, then the selfish choice is doing right by her. It's best to think of it that way. It will make saying "no" to attention seem like less of a sacrifice.
Readers? How can he avoid mistakes next time? Will there be a next time? Is his old self really battling his new self? Am I right to suggest that he taught himself to be entitled? Discuss.
– Meredith
He is still unemployed
"Becky Shaw" ticket winners should get an email from me by 2 or so. If you don't get tickets this time around, there will be more free things to win. So many things.
This letter makes me think we need a "money" category. Money has come up a few times this week. I'll ask Tito about adding it.
Q: I am 45 years old and have been divorced for six years. Two years ago, I met a nice guy on an online dating service. He had a great job that he loved and also made a great salary. He is kind, funny, smart – an all around good guy .
About two months into our relationship he lost his job. He thought that he would be able to get another job quickly but with the downturn in the economy, things didn't work out that way. He has been unemployed for most of the time I have dated him. When we first met, we traveled, went out to eat, went to clubs to see bands, etc. I did pay for my portion of the vacations but for the most part he paid for our dates.
I know that he is using up his 401K just to live and he has cut his living expenses down to the bare bones. I try to be understanding of this but we never go out anymore and it is really starting to bother me. I will offer to pay for us to go out to eat and to clubs but I am unable to do this all the time because I am raising two teenagers on my own and also work two jobs just to try and make ends meet.
He does have a part time job that is sporadic and is only called when needed. I try to be understanding and we will stay in and watch movies, play cards, etc., and I do try and make the best of it. He does look for work every day and has been on interviews but nothing has panned out for him. I am at a crossroads as to what to do. At this point in my life I want more for me this time around. I know that sounds selfish but I was married for 17 years to a man who was totally neglectful to me and his kids. Has anyone been in this situation before and how long do I give him to find a job????? I am so torn because I do love him but I don't love the situation that we are in.
– Not Loving the Situation, Melrose
A: OK, NLTS, the first thing I'm going to do is validate your frustration. My instinct was to tell you that you should be able to love a partner no matter how much money he makes, but you've been coping with this financial anxiety for the better part of two years. That's a long time to feel as though you have to stay in and play cards. It's certainly a difficult way to fall in love with someone.
You're working two jobs. He's working sporadically. He's probably waiting to find a job that on par with his previous gig, but he has to know that this situation can't last forever. You're not demanding that he make big bucks and spoil you. All you want is a plan. If he goes a few more months without finding the right job, would he be open to taking some random, part-time work?
You love him. You're not asking whether you should bail. You're asking how long you should put up with this, and by "this" you seem to mean his one, part-time job. It's a fair question. Being broke doesn't kill a relationship. Resentment does.
There should be a plan, and you should have a say in it. You don't have to be silent about this to be supportive and loving. You're allowed to ask questions, suggest solutions, and veto options that don't work for you. It has been two years. He has to understand that you're in this together.
Readers? How do you get through unemployment in a relationship? Am I right to assume that she's frustrated that he hasn’t picked up more temporary or part-time work? Is it wrong that she wants the social life that she had when they first started dating? Discuss.
– Meredith
Thinking about my ex
The Huntington Theatre was nice enough to give me two more pairs of tickets to "Becky Shaw," its show about dysfunctional relationships and a blind date gone wrong. The show is Sunday at 2. If you applied for the last "Becky Shaw" giveaway and weren't chosen, all you have to do is shoot me another note saying that you'd still like some tickets. If you want tickets and have never applied, send me a note explaining why you need a good afternoon out at the theater. Emails are due tomorrow by 11. I'll email two winners before tomorrow afternoon. I'm at meregoldstein at gmail dot com.
Q: Dear Meredith,
My issue: I broke up with my ex-boyfriend last May after nearly three years of dating. We were long-distance for about half that time and were a mere two hours apart when I decided to end the relationship. He was the first person I ever broke up with, but also the person I proclaimed would be my husband someday. I broke up with him for a number of reasons: 1. He valued his social life far above me and never put me first, 2. He didn't want to move in together or deal with a long distance relationship, and 3. I wasn't sure if I still loved him, or was just telling myself I did.
I was fine immediately after our break up because we continued to see each other on a semi-regular basis, so it was like we were single when apart, but dating when together.
In November, I met my current boyfriend and promptly ended things with my ex. My boyfriend is amazing -- a great combination of manly man and sensitivity, loves the same things as I do, puts me above anything else, and wants to see me as much as possible. He makes me bagels every morning complete with a love note, and even takes care of my puppy while I'm at work. He recently asked me to move in (after a little more than 4 months).
While I have told my boyfriend I love him (and I do very much!!), I've lately found myself thinking of my ex on a more frequent basis. It is hard to cut ties with someone who I considered my best friend for three years, and had to make that decision rather quickly in November. I don't regret the decision, but I'm wondering what these thoughts are all about. Lately I've only been able to think about my ex's good qualities, our inside jokes, and still have thoughts of marrying him. But, some of my behavior over the summer assured me that I could not have still loved him.
I realize I am very young (not yet 23) and have been pretty lucky-in-love. I also don't like to be alone (adopted and father issues, blah blah blah). But ... I'm not alone and my boyfriend is so incredible, so why do I keep thinking about my ex?!?
– Confused But Not Really, Connecticut
A: CBNR, you think about your ex because you did love him, because you might still love him, and because you wonder whether he would have been more open to commitment had you waited a little longer to make big demands.
This is the thing about never being alone. The bonus is that you don't have to be alone, obviously. The drawback is that you never get the space to think about what you actually want. You never get to figure out who you miss, who you need, why you love someone, and what you're looking for.
My advice is to hold off moving in with your new boyfriend. I'm not sure why you're rushing the big stuff with him. It shouldn't even be a discussion at this point. You're 22. There's no reason to move this forward if you're confused. You can date this guy, have a few fantasies about your ex, and see how it plays out. Those fantasies will either become more frequent and intrusive or they'll disappear. That's how it goes.
There's a part of me that wants to advise that you reach out to your ex, just for a friendly conversation. Sometimes all it takes is one real-life interaction to remind us why we left someone. Of course, I don't know enough about the terms of your break-up and your new relationship to make that recommendation. But if talking to your ex is something that wouldn't break everyone's rules, it's something to consider.
Whatever you do, don't move forward in this new relationship. You've been dating the guy for four months. This is evaluation time, not move-in time. These thoughts about the ex … they're your brain's way of telling you that you have no idea what you want. Listen to your brain and put the brakes on. I'm not going to tell you that you have to be alone to figure this out, but you do have to give yourself the time and space to think.
Readers? Is she still in love with the ex? Should she contact him? Or is bagel guy the one to stay with? Should she be moving in with bagel guy? Is this all about her fear of being alone? What should she do? Discuss.
– Meredith
He always helps his ex
Yesterday's letter hit home with a lot of people. For obvious reasons. We could debate it for weeks. But instead, let's consider today's letter, which is about tending to exes. Less controversial ... but stressful in its own way.
Q: Meredith,
I'm in a serious relationship with a man I absolutely love. We have been together for about 8 months and I would do anything for him and I know he would do anything for me. The problem is his ex-girlfriend, who always seems to be lingering around. I'm not worried about him cheating. He is always open and up front about his relationship with her. He broke up with her about a year ago, they stopped talking for a while, but then she started calling him again.
He says he has no feelings for her, but he still feels the need to help her out with things. He says she has no one else so he feels bad. He has given her money for the down payment on a car, brought her dog to the vet, paid tickets for her ... etc. He is a nice guy and does a lot of favors for all of his friends, it's not just her that he helps out ... and he would obviously help me out with anything I needed. That's not the issue.
The problem is, he talks to her fairly often and I can't help but think that he is leading her on. I do believe that he's helping her out because he is a genuinely nice guy, but then part of me thinks maybe he likes the attention he gets from her. I don't know what their conversations consist of ...
Either way, it bothers me that he talks to her and does these favors for her. Being a girl, I know that if an ex-boyfriend were still doing all of these things for me, I would think that maybe there was still a chance for us and I would not leave him alone, I would continue to call him and ask him for favors. How long is this going to continue for and how long do I have to put up with it for? Can I tell him I do not want him talking to her anymore or is that going overboard?
– Trouble with the Ex, Boston
A: "Can I tell him I do not want him talking to her anymore or is that going overboard?"
Yes, TWTE. You can ask him to stop talking to her. And you're not going overboard by doing so.
What I love about your letter is that you're not just worried about your relationship. You're legitimately concerned about your partner's ex. You don't want her to get her hopes up for reconciliation. This isn't just about your jealousy. Two thumbs up for empathy.
There are no real rules regarding how much contact with an ex is appropriate. It depends on the players involved and their individual comfort zones. Your boyfriend's behavior is out of your comfort zone, which means you have to talk to him about boundaries. Set some together. And don't be afraid to ask for what you really want, which is for her to go away.
He needs to know that his current relationship has to be his priority. You're not wrong. His interest in making you comfortable should outweigh his concern for an ex-girlfriend. You're his present.
As you set boundaries with your guy about this ex, talk about the bigger picture. It's fantastic that he's such a great friend to so many people, but at what point is his concern for others hurting you? Is this about attention or obligation? Why is he so quick to help someone buy a car? Is this how he was raised? Why does he feel so guilty about the ex? What's with his need to be needed? Does he feel strange about having more resources than others? Get some answers now. You're not wrong for wanting to know.
Readers? Can she demand that he sever ties with his ex? Or should he just minimize his contact with the ex as opposed to cutting her off? Should the ex’s problems be his responsibility now that the relationship is over? Is this about attention? Discuss.
– Meredith
Looking to make a baby
Happy Passover. Forgot to mention it yesterday.
Q: Hi Meredith,
I'm a 46-year-old man. I split up with my wife three-and-a-half years ago. My wife did not want to have children, which I am glad about for the most part, as it would have made divorce much more difficult. About six months after my marital split, I started going out with a woman who was also going through a divorce. Hers was very difficult and stressful, mine was not. She had two kids who are now 10 and 14. We went out for about two-and-a-half years. I grew to really like her kids and dreamed of becoming a family with the three of them.
As the woman was nearing an actual divorce at the end of two-and-a-half years, she pulled away and seemed to get scared of the reality that she and I could actually be together. I was hurt and now miss her and her kids terribly. That was about four months ago.
I really like the idea of children now that I've had the experience of being around them. I've started to date again and think about this a lot. It seems like this is the last best chance in my life to have a family. The problem is that it is difficult to date women young enough to still have children. The perfect age would seem like 33 to 37, where we could have a couple of years to get tight and form a solid relationship, then have kids in a slightly unhurried way. Most of the women who respond to me or have interest in me on the online dating sites are in their 40s and it is not as realistic for them to have children. And if so, they are going to be in a big hurry.
There aren't a lot of other places that I meet women. Should I hold out for the dream of a slightly younger woman and a family or give it up and come to the realization that I have to settle for a relationship without the possibility of a family? I know there is always adoption or foster parenting, but it is not the same. I personally don't feel too old to have children. I know it seems to bother women if a guy doesn't want to date women their own age but I find myself much less interested about women my own age and in their 40s because they either already have kids and are all damaged or they have given up the idea of kids or are in a big hurry and it seems stressful. Your thoughts?
– Wanting Kids, Metrowest
A: My thoughts, WK? My thoughts are that it's not fair that 46-year-old women can't look for a 35-year-old guys to impregnate, and that by the end of the day, I'm probably going to have an inbox full of notes from women you want your e-mail address. So it goes.
Despite my first paragraph of "it’s not fair" whining, I don't think that you're a bad person for wanting to date younger women who can still have children. You would have had kids years ago had your wife been into the idea. You were open to raising your ex's children but it didn't work out. I'd be red-flagging you if you were opposed to dating women your own age for more superficial reasons, but no flags are necessary here. At 46, you're in the mindset of a 38-year-old woman who just decided she wants kids with a partner she really loves.
(Although, please don't describe these forty-something women as "all damaged." They might say the same of a guy who's 46 and just coming to terms with what he wants when he grows up. Just sayin'.)
My advice is to put this out there online and to be clear about it. It's not creepy to say, "I'm looking for a partner who will love me and make a baby with me." (Maybe don't say "make a baby." That does sound creepy.) Yes, you're going to get contacted by forty-something women who are in a rush, but guess what – you're in a rush, too. My guess is that you'll also hear from a pack of 37-year-olds who are writing me letters about the fact that no one their age wants to start a family from scratch. You should also attempt some real-world meet-ups. Social clubs. Athletic groups. Sometimes people shy away from 46 on paper. In person, age tends to matter less.
I know it's not your first choice, but you should also open your mind to some of the women your age who want to adopt. You wanted to raise your ex's kids as if they were your own. You of all people should know that while raising a child you didn't conceive "isn’t the same," it's still family – and pretty amazing.
Readers? Is it fair that he wants a younger woman for procreation purposes? Should he be more open to adoption? Should a 32-year-old woman be open to dating a 46-year-old? What's going on here? Discuss.
– Meredith
Another office romance
Got back from Maryland and New York last night and watched Thursday's "30 Rock." When Liz Lemon says she met a guy on K-date, "the personals section of the Kraft Foods website," I almost choked on my Diet Coke. If only that were a real thing ....
Q: Dear Meredith,
I've found myself in what I think is a pretty classic predicament but none of my friends seem to have any good answers.
I have a crush on a guy at work.
To give some background, we met through some mutual friends last fall and I found out he was looking for a job so I helped him get an interview at work. Fast forward a few months and he's not only working with me, but working on the same project. This means that we have to interact throughout the day. I figured out a couple of months into working together that he had a crush on me but I was dating someone else at the time. A few months later, my other relationship fizzled and I realized that not only did I think of this guy at work as a great friend, I returned his affections. Through the same mutual friends I found out that he knows that I return the crush feelings, but now he's "very hesitant about the work thing."
So my question is this: Should I do anything? Do I respect his wishes to not start something with a co-worker? Do I just wait for him to make a move? Part of me feels like if you like someone enough you would overlook the potential work awkwardness. We currently hang out with friends a lot and even sometimes alone, though nothing romantic/physical has happened. I should also add that I'm thinking of leaving my current job this summer and he is aware of that possibility.
Thanks for reading!
– Crushing at Work, Cambridge
A: CAW, I'm green-lighting you. Why?
Reason No. 1: He's not a work friend. He's a friend at work. You knew him before he got the job. You have mutual friends. This isn't your typical office romance. It's a potential romance that happens to have found its way to the office.
Reason No. 2: This guy didn't say he wouldn't date a co-worker. He told your mutual friends that he's "hesitant" about dating you now that you work together. Expressing concern is different than saying "no way."
Reason No. 3: You're not married to this job. You might even leave this job. This one's easy. As you said, it's worth the risk, assuming he still digs you.
It's time to talk to him about your feelings. My guess is that he's waiting for you to make a move. And by "make a move" I mean start a discussion. Tell him how you feel, why you think it's worth trying, and why you're not so concerned about how it will change things at work. Put him at ease and see if he can meet you halfway.
Readers? Does this count as an office romance? Does it matter that their connection predated their relationship as co-workers? Does his concern mean he's not into her anymore? Discuss.
– Meredith
I dote on my men
In Maryland to see Mom today. Seeing sister in New York tomorrow. Seeing high school boyfriend tonight. Will watch "The Simpsons" and eat Italian ices with him. Italian ices: not a euphemism. Sometimes I party like it's 1994.
Yesterday's chat is worth a read. We talked about everything from OT comments to open marriages.
I like that today's letter starts "Oh Meredith." I can just hear the letter writer letting out a great big sigh.
Q: Oh Meredith,
I am hoping you can help me. I recently ended a disastrous, short relationship with a man I'll call Mitch. Mitch and I have stayed friends, as we are in the same graduate school program. We are much better as friends, but it would be lying to say I didn't still have a slight crush on him. My problem is, being around Mitch so much - hanging out, eating dinner together, going to movies like any regular friends do - I have had kind of a revelation about how I behave around men.
Specifically, I wait on men hand and foot. Looking back at past relationships, I see myself doing all of the cooking and cleaning. I even make a point to pick up after my brother when I visit him. My mother and the women in my family have always been the same way, so for lack of a better term, maybe this is cultural.
The reason this comes up now is that Mitch has pointed out my behavior lately. He doesn't like it; he believes this is a control thing with me (is he right?). He tells me, "you should have more equal relationships." Maybe these instincts I have are bordering on unhealthy. I hate making men feel like children, coming along after them, cleaning up and running errands for them. That's just how I think you should demonstrate caring for someone. How do I fight back these instincts and have a balanced relationship?
– June Cleaver, Seattle
A: JC, I see two issues here. Issue No. 1 is your Cleaver-ness. Issue No. 2 is Mitch.
As far as Issue No. 1 goes, you've got two options. Your first option is to find a guy who wants a woman who will do his laundry and wipe ketchup off of his face. Those guys exist. They're looking for a few good moms.
Of course, the better option is to be conscious of your habit. You learned from the women in your family that babying and cleaning are ways to show love. And they are, for sure. But it feels even better to be appreciated for the skills that make you unique. Your sense of humor. Your intelligence. Your ability to host a good pajama party. I fear that you dote on the men you date – and maybe men in general – because you undervalue everything else you have to offer them. Or because you underestimate their ability to value the right things.
When you find yourself cleaning up after a guy, ask yourself why you're doing it. Is it to be polite? Or to feel as though you're less dispensable? Or are you playing "wife" as your family has defined the role? Whatever the reason, it's a bad habit, and as Mitch says, it can alienate a romantic partner. And there's no easy fix for bad habits. It's like biting your nails. You just have to keep an eye on your own behavior. But asking the "why" should help.
Issue No. 2: Mitch. I want you to be careful about this friendship. You spend a lot of time with Mitch, and he has a lot of power. If your feelings for Mitch continue and grow, please do what June Cleaver would never do. Tell him that you're still into him and that you'd like to try dating again, this time without offering to do his laundry. Rock the boat. Make a mess. You don't even have to clean it up.
Readers? Is it wrong to dote on a partner? Can she break her family's habits? Is Mitch out of line? Is Mitch just a friend? Am I undervaluing cooking and cleaning as ways to show love? What are the gender issues going on here? Share.
– Meredith
Meredith Goldstein is a Boston Globe columnist who follows relationship trends and entertainment. She offers daily advice on Love Letters — and welcomes your comments. Meredith is also the author of "The Singles," a novel about complicated relationships. Follow Meredith here and on Twitter. Love Letters can be found in the print edition of The Boston Globe every Saturday in the G section.
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