Jennifer Aniston and Catherine Keener are friends.
One is an indie darling -- yeah, and one is a big star -- and don't forget tabloid target. The kind of friends who finish each other's -- sentences. And both star in Nicole Holofcener's latest film, 'Friends With Money.' Come on -- we'll tell you all about it
Outside, its January, Sundance 2006 is in full swing, and the main street of this tiny ski town has been transformed into paparazzi central. Nicole Holofceners indie comedy-drama Friends With Money is the festivals kickoff movie, and like the directors previous films, 1996s Walking and Talking and 2001s Lovely and Amazing, its a showcase for some of the industrys most reliable and least-appreciated actresses. Catherine Keener, soon to be Oscar-nominated for playing Harper Lee in Capote, plays a neurotic screenwriter married to and emotionally abused by her writing partner (Jason Isaacs). The great Frances McDormand is a designer having a hilarious and touching midlife meltdown, while Joan Cusack plays their fussy, wealthy friend.
The fourth corner of this cinematic coffee klatsch is Jennifer Aniston as Olivia the single one, the pothead, the pal who cant get over her married ex-lover and who cleans houses for a living because a career would be too much work. Aniston has the schlumpiest role in Friends With Money, which opened Friday in Boston, but because shes Jennifer Aniston, ex-Friends star and spurned wife in the ongoing Brad/Angelina tabloid melodrama, shes a Sundance front-page story. Gawkers stand 10 deep outside the Friends With Money publicity tent set up at the bottom of Main Street.
Inside that tent is sorry a thoroughly normal woman who seems closer to the easygoing Olivia than the Olympian drama queen on the cover of People. To forestall unseemly questions about Anistons home life, publicists have insisted she be interviewed with Keener, but thats fine: The two yap merrily like, well, friends with money, stepping on each others sentences and telling gleeful little tales on each other. [Warning: The following interview is entirely Brad-free.)
Q: In Friends With Money, did you have any desire to play each others characters? Could you have played them?
Aniston: But wouldnt that have been boring? I loved Olivia.
Keener: I think each one has a little of the others in them. Theyre friends, and you often do that in a friendship: You select out the traits you like, even if its not conscious. When I read the script, I did look at Olivias part and thought that was who Nicole wanted me to play, because it was a little its not dissimilar to characters Ive played for her. But she wanted to allow me to have a fresh experience with her .
Q: Howd the script come to you, Jennifer?
[simultaneously]
Aniston: Nicole called, she basically asked me
Keener: Nicole asked me if she would ever do it, and I said, She loves your movies, I think shed be thrilled
Aniston: and I couldnt believe she was asking
Keener: Shes very particular about casting, Nicole. No matter where you are and what profile you have in our acting community
Aniston: which I feel so grateful for, because theres not many people that can see past that sometimes. Especially ..... [She stops herself.] In the independent world, you really do get to stretch a little and get out of your box, and thats really refreshing. You gotta do that for your soul.
Q: And how exactly does one go about researching the role of a pot-smoking housecleaner?
Aniston: Well ... .
Keener: [whistles innocently] Well, what Ive heard about pot
Aniston: I Googled it
Keener: It makes you get into things
Aniston: and you kind of obsessively do things. Really well.
Keener: Jennifer takes a lot of pride in her attention to detail
Aniston: I have a girlfriend that I modeled Olivia after. I have my wonderful group of girlfriends, and there is the one who is younger than all of us, who hasnt quite figured out exactly what she wants to do, slightly unmotivated but trying to motivate, and were always giving her clothes and footing the bill and loving her. And shes happy shes not an unhappy person.
Keener: Shes smart, educated
Q: Has she seen the movie yet?
Aniston: No
Keener: And dont write any of that. [laughs]
Q: Can you talk about the push-pull between celebrity and acting? Does your public image limit you when youre choosing roles?
Aniston: I try not to think about that. As long as I feel I can do my job and do it well that will hopefully win. Part of it makes me want to leave Los Angeles, though, because I feel like just a piece of chum out there. I go to other places in the country
Keener: They dont care
Aniston: And youre another human being and theres respect. You dont see people looking at you with dollar signs in their eyes
Keener: [interrupting] Can I? Just observing as a friend, I think that people with the kind of high profile that Jennifer has can go either way. You can rest on your image or your laurels, if there are laurels, or it can make you push harder to not be complacent. There are people like that, who just say Im stopping, Im going to keep making these movies, Im comfortable, but those people, honestly, in 10 years? Theyre angry, sad, bitter, and they want to stop doing [expletive] comedies. They want a real job. And, I tell you, the fame is what makes them like that, its not the work
Aniston: Its seductive. Its like this weird, dark goddess, and people get sucked into believing all that.
Q: Have you carved out a place in your life where you can go out to Starbucks or the bookstore?
Aniston: I do. Its easier in certain places
Keener: Mars. [laughs] I have to tell people when were in a grocery store shopping well, this is what she does. Shell put stuff like meat, which I dont eat, in my cart
Aniston: Hee-hee
Keener: without my seeing it, so when I go to the register
Aniston: See, thats a fun thing to do, sneak up on people and throw stuff into their cart
Keener: But also Im the bodyguard who will say, No, you cant take a picture, shes buying personal hygiene things here, just let her go through the express line
Aniston: Ha!
Keener: And sometimes you just have to gut up and say, yeah, this might not be the most likable thing Ive ever done, but thats OK, at least Ill like myself at the end of the day
Q: Catherine, you came to stardom a little later in your career
Keener: Later, interesting. OK, Im an old, old person.
Aniston: [cracks up]
Keener: We dont really care, me and Shirley no, its absolutely true, whatever modicum of fame I have
Aniston: You love your anonymity
Keener: Yeah. What was the question?x
Q: Whether coming to fame with a little more experience under your belt made you more wary about it, or wiser, or cynical. Or not.
Keener: You know, I hate saying thats probably true, but it is. I am cynical about some things. Maybe Im realistic. One of the first auditions for a film I had, I got very good notes in terms of the audition itself, but literally the director said, Shes not sexy. In the notes. And it came back to me. And I thought, thats an absolute. I cant do anything about that. And what I did was get in the car with my dog and drive to New Mexico and I spent three months in Roswell having the time of my life. And it just let me let go a little
Aniston: Thats a nice story.
Keener: Not at the time. It was really demoralizing. I just thought, I cant work on that. Now I dont have that issue.
Q: Some people would say going to New Mexico for three months with your dog is sexy.
Keener: Thats sexy for me. And Ill tell you, it made me feel that if they can say No to me, I can say No right back. And that helped me keep going.
Q: So what about The 40-Year-Old-Virgin? Has your teenage boy recognition on the street improved?
Keener: It is so much better.
Aniston: [laughs] That was so fun. My God. Did you ever see it?
Keener: Yes, twice! I learned so much making it. You see, you had training in improvisation from Friends. You just throw it out. The movies Ive done, you respect the writer and theres no need to think about other lines, but this was one where they kept saying, OK, now say something else! There was never cut. With these guys who were so talented at improv, it was an amazing learning experience.
Q: Was there a lot of improv on Friends With Money?
Keener: Nooo. Nicole writes like that
Aniston: Its her writing
Keener: Shes a beautiful, understated, specific writer.
Aniston: Were lucky.
Keener: Its almost how youre supposed to be able to write: one page, single-spaced. All the extra stuffs gone.
Q: Is that a sensibility thats at all respected in the film industry?
Keener: A lot of people in Los Angeles dont recognize good writing, Im sorry to say. Its my opinion. People will make movies there with a lot of money, and I feel like what they perceive as good writing is often over-writing and has a lot of big scenes that just dont ring true. I dont know, its not the kind of writing I respond to.
Q: Can you give a specific example of how something might have played out differently on the set with Nicole as opposed to a male director?
Aniston: I dont think I can make that distinction. There was a comfort on the set and maybe its because I know her, too, through Keener. [to Keener] Whats the difference between a male and a female director? Theres something about feminine energy. It was extremely casual. We were filming in houses, changing in bathrooms
Keener: If you were uptight, forget it, it wasnt a movie you wanted to work on
Aniston: It wasnt a vanity piece, you didnt wait around for lighting
Keener: People have commented that its not beauty lighting, and we love that. Theyd be asking, Are you aware of that? when it was intentional on Nicoles part. And the guys in the movie were however prickish they had to be to support our characters. Its like team sports. You just want to do your part.
Q: Must be fun to have Frances McDormand on your team.
Keener: Shes amazing
Aniston: Shes the most fun
Keener: Shes got a killer whistle
Aniston: Scared the crap out of me
Keener: Like a paparazzi whistle
Aniston: Shes got power.
Q: Is it a given, Jennifer, that youll be part of Nicoles troupe now?
Aniston: I dont know. I dont want to seem presumptuous. Or desperate. Maybe Ill just ask her flat out, or beg her. It was a very safe environment at a time when it was tricky. [pause] I mean, there was a lot goin on. And it was just the perfect place to be. The perfect place.
Ty Burr can be reached at tburr@globe.com.![]()