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P4P didn't deliver better care, study shows

Posted by Elizabeth Cooney July 11, 2008 04:50 PM

Pay for performance is intended to reward doctors for doing the right thing, but a study of the quality of care given by doctors while the incentives were rolling out in Massachusetts shows they didn't make a difference.

Writing in the current issue of Health Affairs, researchers from Massachusetts General Hospital, Harvard, Harvard Pilgrim Health Care, and Massachusetts Health Quality Partners report that clinical quality got better in Massachusetts between 2001 and 2003 across the board. They studied doctors groups whose income was tied to a series of measures, such as how many patients got mammograms or had their diabetes monitored.

"Our results suggest that few P4P contracts were associated with greater improvement than was occurring in other practices throughout the state," the authors write. "Clearly something was going on, but what?"

Electronic health records, public reporting of quality, or tiered physician networks could have been the tides lifting all boats. But then there's money, or in the P4P practices, too little of it.

"P4P contracts in Massachusetts might not have put enough money at stake to drive additional quality improvement beyond the existing improvement trend," the authors suggest. "Incentives may need to exceed $2,000 per physician or $100,000 per physician group."

4 comments so far...
  1. Here is the thing, these losers (mostly allied with health plans) who come up with dreck like P4P, Stark laws, and other modalities to change physician behavior just miss the point. It is time to admit that in general doctors are among the brightest and most altruistic among us (otherwise they would not have delayed gratification, but would have gone too MBA school so they could be insurance execs, or aministrators) Because of the basic makeup and decency of physicians, (no denying there are a few bad apples) they are going to give the best care they know how to give every time regardless of p4p, capitation, case management, or reimbursement cuts. It is time these losers get out of the way and let docs practice medicine. Perhaps these losers are reflecting on themselves when they worry that a doc is going to sell out his patients for a pen or a meal. Who woould you trust making decisions that affect your health and life, your doctor, or your friendly insurance company? The problem is that the next generatin of doctors are going to be from the bottom of the barrel. Only a half wit would sign up for a progran where you get to be in training well into your adulthood, come out with a mountain of debt, and then have to have your every move scrutinized by brainless half wits, and have the "quality " of your care analyzed by people who couldn't make through pre-med let aloner medical school. ATLAS SHRUGGED!

    Posted by chloe July 17, 08 09:08 PM
  1. The main reason P4P did not work is that they chose very easy measures--measures which each doctor does anyway--not measures which actually are meant to improve healthcare quality.

    For example--for diabetics, HbA1C of 9 was chosen as the measure instead of the accepted 7.

    All the docs could show they brought diabetics patients' HbA1C's down to 9--but that's not that much of an improvement in actuality.

    Doctors got their extra pay but the patients aren't healthier.

    Posted by marquesa jabble July 18, 08 12:13 PM
  1. Pathetic cowards. Couldn't post my message huh? Wouldn't want to present opposing views, might get people thinking. Like I said, Atlas Shrugged.

    Chloe,

    Your first comment is posted above. Sometimes there's a delay between when you submit a comment and when it appears online.

    We review comments before they're posted and do not publish those that contain profanity, personal attacks, or libelous statements.

    We welcome opposing viewpoints, so we hope you -- and others -- will keep the conversation going.

    Elizabeth Cooney
    White Coat Notes

    Posted by chloe July 18, 08 06:13 PM
  1. So, You Want To Be A Doctor…..

    Lately in the media, others have said and appear to express concern about the apparent shortage of primary care doctors in particular. Typically, the main reason believed and speculated by others for this decline of this health care profession specialty that historically has been the apex of our health care system is lack of pay of this specialty when compared with other specialties chosen by potential physicians while in training, as the annual salary of a PCP is around 130 thousand a year on average, others have concluded may be the national average and factors in payers both of a private and public nature.

    Yet considering the additional attention of shortages of students in some medical schools as well, as conceived by others, one could posit hat this professional vocation that has been one viewed in the not so distant past in the U.S. as one with great esteem and respect may not be desired as a vocation by many, that requires commitment and dedication, as reflected in their training regimen in the U.S. that consumes about a third of their lifespan. Such reasons for this paradigm shift may include:

    Primary Care Doctors perhaps more than other physician specialties seem to be choosing to practice medicine under the direction and financial security of one of the many and newly created health care systems These regional and nationally created systems are typically composed of numerous hospitals and clinics under combined ownership- frequently of a private nature that is not dependent upon their beliefs as it is perhaps on their profit motives and intentions. Yet their approach and etiology of their views regarding the restoration of the health of others are usually similar with such mergers of multiple medical facilities, which are presently preferred to save costs, it has been said, and therefore these systems have not been protested by a largely uninformed public.

    Conversely and in addition, this system of increasing popularity is not necessarily a desired method to practice medicine as a primary care physician, often stated by them as members of their employer that has the power to limit and dictate how they practice medicine. This is because, among other reasons, such doctors have largely unexpected and unanticipated limitations regarding their patients’ heath provided by them. This is further aggravated by possible and unreasonable expectations of their employer, such as mandating that doctors they employ are required to see as many patients as theycan in a day, and there have been cases of physicians being fired by a health care system- along with financial rewards for seeing more patients a day than what is determined as average visits by others.

    Such requirements likely and potentially affect or alter the clinical judgment determined by physicians employed in what may be viewed as authoritarian employers, which would limit the medical care they provide to their patients, as well as the quality of this care. Also, such health care systems may have their own managed health care system that may be determined by factors not in the best interest of the patients of doctors employed by the health care system.

    The primary etiology and stimulus for a doctor to practice medicine in this way is due to their frequent inability to provide and employ ancillary staff, combined with the increasing premiums for their mandatory malpractice insurance, which may make doctors financially unable to work independently.

    Malpractice laws and premiums, which is determined in large part on a state level, are an issue with those required to have this adverse aspect of their professions. Also, these premiums become more expensive for doctors, depending on the perceived risk of their chosen specialty. For example, the premiums of an OB/GYN doctor are usually higher than one of a specialty viewed less risky for lawsuits, such as Dermatology, perhaps.

    In addition, the issue of medical malpractice is therefore likely the primary catalyst for a doctor to practice what has been called defensive medicine, which basically means that the health care provider is prohibited from relying upon their subjective factors in their assessment of their patients, which in itself raises the question of what the point was of all of their training in the first place. Because if a doctor practices medicine in such a way, it typically involves what may be considered as unnecessary diagnostic testing for their patients to rule out what may be unlikely disease states of their patients’ medical conditions. This waste of medical resources is further validated by the legality reflected in the tone of the notes a doctor usually annotates or dictates with their patients.

    Such restrictions and limitations imposed on today’s primary health care provider are usually not fully illustrated during their training for this profession, which is one that has been viewed as one that is quite noble and of great responsibility on a societal level. It seems that this perception and vocation that now is greatly misperceived due possibly to being deformed by others who may have profit as their motive for the health care they may dictate to doctors they may employ in some way, which often and likely is in conflict with their motives as doctors and how they wish to deliver needed health care to others. This may be why this medical profession may no longer be viewed as distinct from other vocations, in large part, as it seems that presently the profession of a doctor has been reduced to one dependent on the financial stability and growth of its employer, which may alter how the doctors perceive what is expected of them as well, which may affect the importance of how they view their profession.As it has been stated by others that, overall, doctors are somewhat understandably perceived by others to be much more cynical and demoralized, which may be replacing the pride they historically have viewed their callings as doctors, as well as the perceptions of patients in the U.S. Health Care System.

    Further complicating and vexing to these restrictions is the usual financial state of the individual physician, as theynormally have to pay off the debt acquired from attending medical school and training, which averages well over 100,000 dollars today after their training is completed, it has been estimated, along with this debt amount presently is about 5 times higher than it was only a few decades ago.
    Conversely, there are some who believe that doctors in the U.S. are over-paid and are compared with some corporate monster, who behaves based upon the premise of greed. In spite of how they are judged, physicians are likely not absent of financial concerns- which may be of more of an issue than many other professions, comparatively speaking, in addition of taking on more responsibility that is of greater importance compared with other vocations. Such realistic variables should be factored in when one chooses to judge the profession of a physician. On the other hand, no physician should view their jobs as no different from any other venture capitalist when rationalizing their income and motives related to this exceptional vocation as a physician, as others are more dependent on their judgment.


    It has been determined by others, and suggested often and lately, that many of today’s physicians practicing medicine in the United State do not recommend or speak favorably of their professions compared with their typical views of their profession in the not so distant past. While this self-perception physicians may have of a negative nature may be somewhat understandable it is also and potentially unfortunate for the health of the public in the future, and the nature normally associated with the medical profession which could deter ideal medical care for others.

    There have been cases where doctors do in fact change careers, and get into vocational fields such as medical communications or corporate medical companies. Also, expert witnessing is another consideration for those who choose to leave their profession. Finally, other choices considered include consulting and research. The training of doctors fortunately leaves them with options not involved directly with the flaws of medical care, but this is bad for us as citizens, overall. The etiology of their departure from their designed profession is largely due to the negative state perceived by themselves as well as others of their profession as medical doctors.

    Then again, not all doctors are deities. Like others, some are greedy and corrupt, which complicates others in this profession in relation to how their vocation is viewed by others and based on limited judgment and analysis. Yet citizens overall should determine what sort of health care they desire, and it seems that often they fail to voice this right as a citizen.

    For perhaps Primary Care Physicians in particular, the medical profession and those who provide medical care clearly needed by others to some degree appears to be absent as a desired path of today’s careerist. The authentic reasons for what many believe to be a negative perception of possibly the entire health care system may never be known, yet many would agree that most U.S. citizens are understandably concerned with the state of this system of great importance to society. Yet need to be active more in assuring this necessity is more aseptic than it is presently.

    “In nothing do men more nearly approach the Gods then in giving health to men.” --- Cicero

    Dan Abshear

    Author’s note: What has been written has been based upon information and belief of a layperson, yet also the assessments of a patient.


    Posted by Dan July 19, 08 01:01 AM
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Elizabeth Cooney covers health for the Worcester Telegram & Gazette. She previously reported on business and was an editor at the paper. Earlier in her career, she edited medical books and journals at Little, Brown, and worked for Boston magazine.

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