Doctor says he falsified sleep data while at Harvard

Dr. Fogel "What I did was obviously horrendously wrong," Fogel told The Scientist magazine. "I never really thought through the consequences, and once I did this I got myself into a loop that I found I couldn't get out of."

Sounds like the same thing the man-made global warming alarmists have done ... the difference is... they haven't appolgized yet.

How many others have done the same?
How many of the outrageous medical costs we face today are based on manipulated or even totally false data from the medical community?

Oscar - I'm with you; neither has that horrible Pasteur appolgized for spreading that germ theory nonsense!

I also deny the second law of thermodynamics, and I vote!

Oh no, I had gastric bypass to help with my sleep apnea. Now I'm questioning whether I was even obese in the first place!!!

Sorry, Oscar, don't hold your breath. The global warming crackpots will figure out how to deliberately heat up the planet before they admit they're making stuff up.

You're really twisted there oscarbozach.
What color is the sky in the world you live in.
Do you really just go around thinking "How can I twist my logic to fit my political dogma?"

"oscarbozach" -- I propose that we park both you and your gas-guzzling SUV on an iceberg (if we can still find one) & see if you both survive the summer... That sounds like a convincing & "scientific" test of your conspiracy theories!

oscarbozach,
Raging redneck politics has nothing to do with science and the peer review process in which hypothesis, by collection of carefully controlled experimental and measured data are used to establish scientific conclusions. This is as true for global warming as it is for sleep apnea.

Huh? Is that related to the big sheet of ice that broke off from Antarctica recently? Please, keep your issues connected!

Mental health came out of the closet years ago oscar. Why don't you get yourself some help?

oscarbozach, you're implying that any scientific results you don't like MUST have been falsified just because Fogel falsified his findings. Get over it.

They haven't apologized because there's no need to apologize when you're right.

Oscar, you are an idiot

I hope Fogel loses a lot of sleep over this.

So what else is new? The medical mind-set encourages falsification. The "studies" funded by drug companies, the refusal to look squarely at our dietary problems as contributing to the major diseases, the glorification of the obsolete Pasteurean notion that germs come from without--all this stuff is endemic. The phrase, "physician, heal thyself" comes to mind.

The reason they haven't apologized yet is probably because they have absolutely nothing to apologize for. It's a benefit enjoyed when you put impartial science and public interest ahead of parochialism, partisanship, and vested interests. You might want to try it sometime.

To Oscarbozach: Not really. How do you figure?

This is the worst thing about one scientist who lies: all the idiots will then pretend that any scientist who says something they don't like is lying as well.

Oscarbozach - you have NO PROOF against global warming (just ignore those massive ice shelfs breaking off in Antarctica) and you are most likeley the one who owes an apology.

And the shameless liars who deny global warming for political reasons - have they apologized about anything? Of course not. They did start two wars for oil though. Oscar, I'm sure you still haven't seen through that scam yet. Keep the blinders on though, pal. You might not be able to handle a wake-up call.

i dont know what oscarbozach the grouch is talking about. its not about global warming. its about the greenhouse effect. we are pumping more CO2 into the air than it can handle. the oceans absorb it, the atmosphere absorbs it and it reacts accordingly. it may result in increased temps or decreased temps. it may result in increased rainfall or decreased rainfall. noone knows for sure. but thats not a reason to call scientists frauds and just pretend that ruining the atmosphere will not produce any harm. why are the glaciers thinning and melting away? how will this create drought in river dependent watersheds fed by glaciers? what is the sustainible lefel of ppopulation in this world?
it is not being an alarmist to point out that overfishing destroyed many fisheries and required active fishery management, so why would climatologist warnings about where the weather is headed be objected to when it will direct industry to make the changes necessary to prologh and protect industial growth to be self sustaining and not suicidal? . one dr fogel is not a proof of science being wrong. but oscar the grouch would believe anyting else.

Why do so many people that respond here always have to have another agenda that they are complaining about?

I'm looking at you OscarBizzach!

Meanwhile - aren't there OTHER studies that link obesity to Sleep Apnea? Or is the Globe not interested in researching facts about what they write about?

Surely the coincidence of obesity and sleep apnea aren;t doing the heart any favors.

Once again, the fat get blamed for something falsely. We get it. The Medical establishment hates fat people. We hear your contempt in your voice, when our cholesterol and BP and everything are balanced. We hear it when you say you don't believe that we are active people.. You scare us with stories of sleep apnea...

Stop blaming the symptom and get to the root of the cause!

The problem with politicized science, such as both global warming and medicine, is that the investigators have an axe to grind. There's a politically correct result, and a politically incorrect result.

Ethical scientists believe that any data is good data, no matter where it leads. They believe the truth is the most important thing--it's the ONLY important thing.

Global warming scientists, drug company doctors, college professors are all under immense pressure to publish the pre-ordained result no matter what they find during their research.

The pills are better than placebos, people are making the earth dangerously hot, women and men are exactly equal biologically, breast milk is best. The politically correct conclusions researchers are required to publish are slogans.

MITCH E WROTE: " noone knows for sure. but thats not a reason to call scientists frauds and just pretend that ruining the atmosphere will not produce any harm. "

These same people claimed it was "global cooling"... then it was man-made global cooling... then they switched ot man-mad global warming... now it is climate change. Why climate change? Because the planet is no longer warming. So to keep their fake movement alive... they have adapted... much like the planet does.

Follow the money: There is not a single man-made global warming alarmist who has not financially benefited from their outspoken positions. In fact, they more they speak out... the more richer they get. Al Gore has is fake carbon credits business.... that is no different whatsoever than the snake oil salesman of the 19th century.

it started with cigarettes that were studied on the deadly side.. These researchers took what was obviously bad for you and made it worse.. to stop people from lighting up in the first place. By itself a good practice where cigarettes are concerned but it spawned a culture of social engineering researchers that took that ball and ran with it.. They look back at the pass that society gave the reserachers and dont understand why the same tweaked methods are a problem now with global warming... Research is government funded lobby and the results are preordained.. That why so many support research on a personal level..