Obama refers to abortion, not Notre Dame

Typo: would like to reduce the number of unwanted presidencies

Obama's statement makes too much sense so the media will pick it apart until they can find points for people to get all worked over again.

kind of like they did when they picked the title of the story.

i for one will be happy to see the globe go out of business

You may want to check the transcript of President Obama's response--I'm pretty sure he was talking about "unwanted pregnancies" and not "unwanted presidencies." Of course, there have been many unwanted presidencies--the last 8 years is a good example. I can think of no greater argument in favor of abortion.

Nobody favors abortion, but making it illegal does not stop them. They've been going on in one form or another since not long after man and woman-kind climbed out of the trees.

It is perfectly reasonable to strive for a society where there are fewer unwanted pregnancies, and fewer abortions are needed or wanted.

I always wonder what demons drive those who are most vocal about the issue.

Don't legislate anything as serious and grave as abortion at the Federal level. If the Federal "makes a mistake" legislatively it is virtually impossible to reverse the error. Abortion rights should not be legislated nor should they be sanctioned - especially by the Federal government. Smart politics/government need to be applied, however such methodology has never been applied in the realm of American (or any other country's that I can know off) politics/legislature nor has any such methodology been even identified for such difficult situations.

I have always been pretty neutral on the issue, but can someone give me a compelling reason why someone would abort a healthy fetus in the 6th, 7th or 8th month of pregnancy?

Maybe Obama does not know any of these women, but I know some women who do casually have abortions. I think it devaluates human life.

In these tough economic times, people are having a tough time raising kids who are already born. Maybe we should expand the freedom of choice to include parents choosing whether or not to terminate any child up to three years old.

So Anne,

If I am reading your comment correctly, somebody should have "killed"
Bush.

Moreover you are also, by your own admission, equating abortion with killing. Thank you. At least you are being honest.

Harrybosch, you wonder about "what demons drive those most vocal about this issue?" Start by re-reading what your friend Anne just wrote.

By the way I did not climb out of a tree, which implies that I am an animal without a conscience. But there are humans who do ignore their conscience. Like those who call for the death of a president and those who abort babies.

Jim64
I don't believe that many "healthy fetus" are aborted in the 6,7 and 8 month.

Neil,
How do you know so many women having abortions?

Tumbleweed,
I don't believe Anne used the word "killed".

"By the way I did not climb out of a tree, which implies that I am an animal without a conscience. But there are humans who do ignore their conscience. "

It sounds as if you are opposed to abortion, and I respect that. I assume you have taken steps in your own personal life to ensure that you and your significant other are not burdened with an unwanted pregnancy, and have perhaps also counseled your family and loved ones how to avoid the situation.

Maybe you are also active in or contribute money to organizations who work to minimize and eliminate unwanted pregnancies. Good on ya!

More and more folks do what I assume you are doing, we'll have one less thing to talk about.

Jim64,

Abortion is not legal in the 6th, 7th, or 8th month of pregnancy. The only reason I could think of to have one then would be some completely extreme case to save the life of the mother. Even then, I would think that in 99.9% of cases the medical providers would try to deliver early . . .

Harry,

Maybe if you didn't look at child as a "burden" you wouldn't worry so much about what I do in my own life or any one elses for that matter.

I guess not having sex with someone you aren't ready to have a child with is an outrageous answer to the problem? Perhaps instead of accepting casual sex as part of life, why not hold people to a moral standard. No one is perfect and people will misstep, it's what you do once you've made the misstep. Adoption is a viable alternative to abortion. You don't want to raise the child that's fine, but there are plenty of people in this world who would love that child. Selfishness is the only reason. You created the child, give up 9 months out of a long life for said child.

tumbleweed,

I never said that a child is a burden. And of the two of us, only one of us is concerned with what others are doing in their own personal lives.

"I guess not having sex with someone you aren't ready to have a child with is an outrageous answer to the problem?"

100,000 years of human history says no.

"Perhaps instead of accepting casual sex as part of life, why not hold people to a moral standard."

Because your moral standard may be different from mine.

HArrybosch-

"Because your moral standard may be different from mine".
Actions have consequence, and part of accepting the responsability of sex is the consequence of producing a child- but you are obviously a member of the "do what feels good, spread STD's and AIDS, then whine until someone else steps up to take care of the hefty medical bills" group. Grow up. Get some self control.

Harry are you saying people can't use self control. I know a man with seven grandhcildren bewteen the ages of 15 and 27. Five are virgins the other two wiated until marriage. Believe it or not they are all fine productive members of society, even the 27 year old virgin. I know this may not be typical but as long as sex is accepted as a lesisure activity and not a beautiful and wonderful act between a Wife and her husband we will continue to have abortion used by selfish people as birth control, children raised by one parent, high divorce rate, and an increase in number of those effected and number of types of STD's. Whether you use God as your moral standard or even if you don't believe in God it is VERY clear that casual sex is a dangerous lifestyle brith control or not.

Mr. Obama saddens me with his stated goal of tamping down the anger over abortion. I am sick of all the genocide that he is intent to promote, i.e., the unleashing of deadly violence against nearly 50 million of our defenseless brothers and sisters who are just younger and less developed than we are. Mr. Obama's utilitarian ethic of killing the "unwanted" if one wants to do so rivals the Hegelian utilitarianism of Henrich Himmler . His program of increased contraception will only exacerbate the problem--increased contraception has lead to more abortion historically throughout the world. Why shouldn't we be upset that as the most pro-murder-in-the-womb president ever wants to take away any defense that we might muster to save even a few children? His support of FOCA, which he did not deny, will take away our constitutional right of conscience. I pray that this president will examine the evil he is doing and change for the good.

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Obama continues to present his "faith" as being man-centered instead of God-centered.
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Obama states "perhaps because I witnessed all the good works their [the church's] faith inspired them to perform, I found myself drawn not just to work with the church I was drawn to be in the church. It was through this service that I was brought to Christ."

Ray Comfort teaches the core of being a Christian is being "saved," knowing what we are "saved" from and that Jesus is the only way to our salvation:

http://www.wayofthemaster.com/mp3/tape01.m3u

Obama believes his salvation is based on himself, according to this interview:

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/386118.aspx

* Obama defines how he will enter into heaven as "if I live my life as well as I can, that I will be rewarded"

* Obama defines sin as "Being out of alignment with my values"

* And, for Obama, sinning is "if I’m true to myself and my faith that that is its own reward, when I’m not true to it, it’s its own punishment."