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DA: No charges warranted against police in student's death

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District Attorney Daniel F. Conley said that a thorough investigation had determined no charges needed to be filed. David Woodman's parents still have questions.

By Shelley Murphy and Stephanie Ebbert, Globe Staff

Suffolk District Attorney Daniel F. Conley has decided not to press charges against Boston Police officers in the case of David Woodman, the 22-year-old Emmanuel College student who died after being arrested in June during Boston Celtics championship celebrations.


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"As a result of a thorough, objective, and independent review of the facts, I have concluded that no criminal charges are warranted," Conley said in a statement he delivered at an afternoon news conference. "The facts are clear and the medical evidence overwhelming that Mr. Woodman's death was the result of natural causes -- specifically a serious, preexisting heart condition."

Woodman stopped breathing and his heart stopped beating while in police custody. He was taken to the hospital, but died 11 days after his June 18 arrest.

Conley, who reported his findings in a letter to Police Commissioner Edward Davis, said officers had struggled to subdue Woodman, but the evidence was clear that officers did not use excessive force in arresting him.

"No police officer caused Mr. Woodman's death and no police officer used excessive force in arresting Mr. Woodman," he said.

Last month, the state medical examiner signed David Woodman's death certificate, indicating his death was the result of a congenital heart defect.

Woodman's parents, Jeffrey and Cathy Woodman of Southwick, who received a briefing on the investigation from Conley, said at a news conference this afternoon that they don't believe that police are blameless in their son's death.They also said they have not been given an adequate explanation of why he suddenly suffered an arrhythmia while in police custody and arrived at the hospital sometime later with significant brain damage because of a lack of oxygen.

"I think it's a little unrealistic to ask us to believe that the police did everything right,'' said Cathy Woodman, wiping away tears as she sat beside her husband and their lawyers. "They've had all this time to piece together this great story that makes David look like he was guilty and he deserved this.''

Describing themselves as a working class family from Southwick, the Woodmans complained that they had to wait seven months to learn the results of the medical examiner's report and Conley's conclusions and that they still have not been provided with any of the documents supporting their findings.

"We're insulted that they treated us like we were insignificant,'' Cathy Woodman said. "We just wanted information. Now we have it and it just sounds like a lie.''

Jeffrey Woodman said that although his son had a preexisting heart condition, he led a very active lifestyle, was playing basketball hours before his encounter with police, and had never suffered an arrhythmia before.

"I think it comes down to them saying it was a coincidence that David's heart failed at that time,'' Jeffrey Woodman said. "It doesn't make sense to us. We'd like to see all the documents.''

Conley said that he would provide a copy of the entire investigative file to the Woodman family.

Woodman was walking home with four friends after watching the Celtics' NBA victory at a bar when they passed nine uniformed officers at the intersection of Fenway and Brookline Avenue, which was not one of the areas of the city that was filled with unruly revelers at the time. One of Woodman's friends, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said that as he passed the officers, Woodman said, "Wow, it seems like there's a lot of crime on this corner.''

The friend said Woodman, who was carrying a cup of beer, was slammed to the ground by officers, who ordered his friends to leave the area or face arrest. Police have said Woodman struggled with police. He was charged with public drinking and resisting arrest.

Conley said his investigation had found that Woodman had tried to resist arrest by grabbing a nearby wrought-iron fence, and it took several officers to loosen his grasp and bring him to the ground, where he was handcuffed.

"They used a level and type of force appropriate to the resistance they encountered, and they complied with the Boston Police Department's rules and procedures in doing so," Conley said.

After Woodman was handcuffed, Conley said, the officers tried to get Woodman to his feet but he couldn't stand. Believing he was drunk -- and unaware of his medical condition -- police returned him to the ground, positioning him on his side in case he vomited, Conley said.

"Within one or two minutes, they noticed that he was not breathing and had no pulse and they immediately took action," Conley said.

One officer who had been trained as an emergency medical technician began mouth-to-mouth resuscitation, another performed chest compressions, a third called for an ambulance and three more ran for an ambulance. Two off-duty firefighters responded and offered first aid before officers flagged down an ambulance.

Woodman was taken to Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center. He died June 29 after suffering a second arrhythmia.

Asked whether he was intimating that Woodman would have died without any police interaction that day, Conley noted that the medical examiner ruled the death a natural one. He also said that Dr. James R. Stone, chief of the cardiovascular pathology service at Massachusetts General Hospital and a consultant for the medical examiner in this case, had issued an opinion finding that both arrhythmic events were the result of Woodman's abnormal heart -- and that the second arrhythmia would have killed him even if the first had never occurred.

Police Commissioner Edward F. Davis said he believed police acted appropriately. He noted that they undergo extensive training, are encouraged to make arrests for public drinking, and are taught that handcuffing face-down is a safe means of restraining someone resisting arrest. However, police policies may still change as a result of the incident, he said. For instance, all nine officers who were present at Woodman's arrest immediately went to the hospital for stress treatment, leaving a superior officer who did not witness the incident to write a report on it.

"This whole event is being looked at very closely," Davis said.

Former US Attorney Donald K. Stern is still conducting an independent review of the circumstances surrounding Woodman's death. The FBI and US Attorney Michael J. Sullivan also announced last year that they would investigate whether Woodman's civil rights were violated.

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  1. Darwin caused it.

    Posted by RS January 29, 09 01:22 PM
  1. I hope all the people who called for the policeman's head at the time appologize. Or will the just claim it is a cover up conspiracy?

    Posted by Tim January 29, 09 01:26 PM
  1. Was that "active lifestyle" that resulted in the need to take him into cusody in the first place?

    I hope Woodman's opt out of the blame game and have the dignity to refrain from frivolous litigation.

    Posted by SBW January 29, 09 01:37 PM
  1. And in other news, Microsoft found Steve Balmer not guilty of chair-throwing.

    Seriously?

    Posted by Susan M. January 29, 09 01:37 PM
  1. "Conley based his decision largely on the state medical examiner's report, which concluded that Woodman died of "natural" causes from a pre-existing heart condition and that any stressful activity could have triggered his heart to stop, the official said."

    Right, so the cops killed him, duh! I would not know but getting your head slammed off the ground by a cop sounds pretty stressful to me!

    Posted by The Horn January 29, 09 01:38 PM
  1. Now did they slam him to the ground before he resisted arrest or knew he was drinking publicly? Why did they slam him to the ground in the first place? What did his friends see when they were present? Prison guards with badges. The bully in your school. Not all...but so many.

    Posted by tinsoldiers January 29, 09 01:42 PM
  1. Police officers are above the law and live their lives that way. They drive fast on roads with no-where to go. They put their lights on to manuever through intersections only to turn them off after they have done so. They drive above the speed limit on the Mass pike then tailgate you until you move out of the lane. I had a state cop put his lights on behind me yesterday on route 3 only to turn them off after he had passed by us. He had no where to go, the roads were horrible and he was only making them more dangerous. Why were nine police officers standing on one corner? Were there nine on the one across the street? They were just soaking up OT...killing time.

    Posted by pigs January 29, 09 01:44 PM
  1. Kangaroo court. We shouldn't be surprised.

    Posted by SouthShoreisdull January 29, 09 01:45 PM
  1. Why do they bother with these investigations? I mean, really....the police are never found to be at fault. I'm not saying they were or weren't in this case - I don't know enough of the details to form an opinion. But really, the police get off the hook every single time, whether they are at fault or not. Since that's the case, these investigations are really just a waste of time, energy and taxpayer money.

    Posted by bizona January 29, 09 01:59 PM
  1. It seems that the appropriate justice has already been handed out to the young whippersnapper. Case closed.

    Posted by Rob January 29, 09 01:59 PM
  1. I'm not familiar with the details of this story, but based on the vague description provided in this article, drinking in public and making a snide comment to a police officer isn't something that should warrant slamming the perpetrator to the ground and cuffing them.

    I hope the family persues charges against the arresting officer(s).

    Posted by Champ January 29, 09 02:05 PM
  1. This is supposed to make the public feel confident about the professionalism of the police? The notion of "Serve and Protect", vis a vis the public, is taking on a seriously hypocritical tint as more and more petty, police vindictiveness is swept under the rug.

    Posted by nighthawksoars January 29, 09 02:07 PM
  1. I hate Boston cops!

    Posted by Josh January 29, 09 02:11 PM
  1. I'm just confused as to the reason behind his arrest? Last I checked sarcasm wasn't a crime.

    Posted by Dave January 29, 09 02:16 PM
  1. The fact that the poor kid was a bit of a wise guy, does not in any way, shape or form justify the use of force on him to the extent that it was. Throwing him to the ground and handcuffing him? For mouthing off? I would think the police would be a little more thick skinned than that. This is as much a tragedy as the death of Viictoria Snelgrove, which I will never forget.

    Posted by mortglazer January 29, 09 02:24 PM
  1. Let's see: Cops slam a guy against the ground for no legal reason, and he dies... but they are not prosecuted for anything or even disciplined. Nice system.

    Posted by phonyuser January 29, 09 02:27 PM
  1. Lies, and a cover-up. But for the officers brutalizing him, he'd be alive today.

    Do you even know the facts of what the police, utterly un-necessarily did to him? It resulted in his death.

    This story sits with you, good citizen? They should all be fired and jailed, every last one of them.

    Posted by Pointing Fingers January 29, 09 02:28 PM
  1. i wasn't there but my first thought is why would nine police officers needs to slam one 22 year old to the ground -- nine to one --

    Posted by laurie January 29, 09 02:29 PM
  1. So it wasn't the policemen's fault! Why am I not surprised? Is it ever their fault? Of course not!

    Posted by Jafuf January 29, 09 02:34 PM
  1. I didn't know it was a crime to mouth off to a police officer.
    Does holding a cup of beer and saying something off-handed to a police officer subject a person to arrest?
    What happened to this person's constiutional rights?
    I hope his parents flle a civil action claim agains the City of Boston and the Boston Police Dept. This won't bring their son back but it will send a message to the City that brute force costs money. Hit 'em where it hurts.
    What is happening in this town when this type of police force is permitted and enforced.
    Did we learn anything from a similiar event when a young women was killed by the Boston Police on Lansdowne St. after the Boys won the Series.
    What happened to the officers' code of serve and protect?

    Posted by constitution101 January 29, 09 02:39 PM
  1. Hey Tim,

    I am calling for their heads now!! What a joke. Another police crime and no punishment. An example needs to be made so that these people know they can no longer get away with these horrific crimes. The kid drinks a little bit one night and dies because of the "cops" come on..does the punishment really fit the crime here?

    Posted by Josh January 29, 09 02:41 PM
  1. Police Officers are never going to be held accountable for their actions, EVER. To the police, being held accountable means 'Enjoy your paid leave while we smooth this over, then you can come back and resume your thuggery.'

    All potential police officers should be required to submit to a psychological examination, one that can't be passed by 'studying' or 'knowing the exam', to weed out all the power-hungry scum that are hired to allegedly 'protect and SERVE' the public.

    Posted by Phil January 29, 09 02:41 PM
  1. All I know is this, if it had been a black guy who was killed and the cops were found innocent of wrong doing, there would be mass riots in the streets.

    Posted by Whitey Bulger January 29, 09 02:46 PM
  1. It's Bush's fault.

    Posted by I Heart G-Warming January 29, 09 02:47 PM
  1. Rob: "It seems that the appropriate justice has already been handed out to the young whippersnapper. Case closed."

    Rob, death is "appropriate justice" for drunkness and sarcasm? You have a strange sense of justice. However, it is not without precedent. I imagine the rulers of Saudi Arabia and the fascists of Nazi Germany might agree with you.

    Posted by bizona January 29, 09 02:48 PM
  1. To me, this is my biggest pet peeve as far as rights of the citizens go. I cannot believe this behavior is accepted. The "policemen" should be fired, and arrested for manslaughter!! The family should sue each officer personally so as to hurt their bank accounts as opposed to the Departments. Because if that happens than the tax payers will ultimately be paying for it....but if that is the only way I am fine with it...

    Posted by Josh January 29, 09 02:48 PM
  1. DA is wrong. The cops killed that poor kid.

    Posted by SMELLtheBACON January 29, 09 02:49 PM
  1. Wow, apparently the people commenting don't have the best reading comprehension skills. Having an open container in public and being intoxicated in public are arrestable offenses. In my experience the only people who make dumb sarcastic comments like this to police are ones that are intoxicated. The only person who says the cop slammed his friend to the ground was a friend who probably also had been drinking and probably wasn’t in the best frame of mind. Also even if the kid had gone down hard it’s probably more of a matter of him losing his balance because he’s drunk than the cop slamming him to the ground. Please before commenting about how awful police officers are remember that the only person who has claimed he was “slammed” to the ground was by his probably drunk friend.

    Posted by Scott January 29, 09 02:52 PM
  1. I have a question....

    The police department and DA's office often work very closely together and I imagine they become friendly, maybe even develop personal relationships with each other. So, why does the DA's office handle an investigation like this? There may be serious conflicts of interest there. Seems to me a completely independent investigation would be more effective and possibly less subject to controversy and questions.

    Posted by bizona January 29, 09 02:56 PM
  1. "Wow, it seems like there's a lot of crime on this corner.''

    Sooo.. making what could be just a goofy remark to a cop (nine of them, actually) might result in getting slammed to the ground? Must be great to be a jerk AND a cop. You can do precisely whatever you want and suffer no consequences for it. I second the call for the family to file a civil suit against the city.

    To Serve and Protect (their own).

    Posted by FrankL, Boston January 29, 09 03:01 PM
  1. I don't get it - if the cops hadn't of slammed him to the ground and cuffed him (and probably held him down with a knee in the back) - he would have died anyway?

    He was going to die AT THAT MOMENT, cops or not?

    Posted by mikeybigboy January 29, 09 03:07 PM
  1. Apology !?!?!? Are you kidding me ? How often do people 22 yr olds drop dead in Boston ? They either die from lead poising or a pepper ball in the back of their skull... What a complete joke of a investigation. I guess if you don't have it on video tape it never happened... What a bunch of thugs and cowards.....

    Posted by cracker_please January 29, 09 03:08 PM
  1. Do the facts and circumstances in this case justify the police response?

    No, but the law does.

    Posted by Rondo January 29, 09 03:11 PM
  1. If someone is being arrested, and he or she resists, the police are entitled to--- and must-- use force to overcome the resistance. That is why he was slammed to the ground. Whether he should have been arrested or not is a separate question. But the law is that you do not have a right to resist even an unlawful arrest. So if you are arrested, cooperate, and you will almost certainly not have a problem. You can fight about the legality of the arrest later, and you will avoid a beating. Use common sense. Let me tell you a secret: the police are scared, too. They are pumping adrenaline in these situations. Don't give them a reason to perceive you as a threat. This kid had a heart defect that made a stressful situation like this dangerous to him, but his own resistance was a factor in this and the use of force to ovrercome resistance is lawful. I certainly do question whether he should have been arrested or not. But he could have gone to court Monday morning and probably had this charge tossed out if he had just cooperated. Bashing him or the police is not really useful. Everyone should just learn from this. I would hope my kid had the good sense to stay away froma scene like this in the first place. Every time a team wins a champoinship, someone dies through some chaotic situation. Stay home .

    Posted by James January 29, 09 03:12 PM
  1. Based on this news report it sure looks like the investigation was completely impartial and thorough. It is all so perfectly logical that a person that was healthy while walking down the street and makes a snide remark is soon in respiratory arrest when in police custody a few minutes later. Further, it makes perfect sense that all of the involved officers needed to be leave the scene as a group and be treated for stress. After all, nine officers subduing one person can be quite stressful if there are no witnesses to corroborate your immediate administration of CPR. As a final benefit, it looks like the police homicide unit has just cleared one of those pesky unsolved murders as a natural death unless, of course, the FBI finds out the death wasn't so natural.

    Posted by Disinterested Observer January 29, 09 03:19 PM
  1. Rob-- "It seems that the appropriate justice has already been handed out to the young whippersnapper. Case closed."

    That's someone's kid you're talking about. What's wrong with you?

    Posted by wtf January 29, 09 03:24 PM
  1. if anybody other than the police had slammed him down it would be manslaughter and they would pay the price. We all knew from the biginning charges would not be brought. Pigs.

    Posted by RM January 29, 09 03:25 PM
  1. Just add this to the list unethical/questionable conducts of Massachusetts police officers. Of course the "protect and serve" motto only applies to thier own. This outcome doesn't surprise me at all. People already realize there are definately double standards within the law enforcement community.

    Posted by Honest Citizen/Taxpayer January 29, 09 03:29 PM
  1. How many people do Boston police have to kill before one gets indicted? These cops are part of the problem, and are largely the reason why people riot after sporting events. A kind word and a smile with authority goes a lot further in creating and protecting the peace. To say these cops didn't kill this kid is insane.

    Posted by mike rosenthal January 29, 09 03:41 PM
  1. The determination has been made whether the cops did something criminal. It appears not. This doesn't mean that they weren't negligent. The city will probably pay big for this. It is all very unfortunate.

    I feel for the lost life, the parents and imagine the arresting officer doesn't feel much better.

    No one wins and I don't think that anything will change.

    Posted by RWm January 29, 09 03:43 PM
  1. How many innocent people brutally slain by Boston Police is too many?

    Posted by cj January 29, 09 03:47 PM
  1. Sudden impact to the chest area kills many individuals every year. Damn straight fact. Stop the heart or changes the way it beats causing cardiac arrest.

    So if he wasn't thrown to the ground he would have died anyway?

    Typical cover up. Remember...the police were found not guilty in the Rodney King case as well....think about it...you knew this would happen.

    Posted by Harry January 29, 09 03:48 PM
  1. Seems like excessive use of force to slam him to the ground. I could see them slamming the cup of beer to the ground because that's obviously illegal but why did they tackle this kid? Like others have said it seems pretty clear that it probably wouldn't have taken more than two out of the nine officers to take him into custody. I was unaware that making a snide remark was grounds for getting assaulted... At least they didn't taser him.

    Posted by Ben January 29, 09 03:58 PM
  1. What's really odd is this: if Woodman had been smoking a joint instead of (allegedly) drinking some beer, as of a couple weeks ago the police would have had no right to arrest him at all. We probably should have decriminalized that as well.

    Posted by Dan Farnkoff January 29, 09 04:02 PM
  1. Yet another case of cops and government protecting themselves. In other news today, a person is being charged with murder for "scaring someone to death". Admittedly this person just tried to rob a bank and broke into the persons home and should be punished. The difference is that he never touched the person and is being charged with murder while several cops throw someone to the ground resulting in his death.

    There needs to be tougher laws when cops get out of control. They are more than willing to charge someone with as many violations as possible hoping some will "stick" but are not willing to admit responsibility of their own actions.

    Posted by Looking for Freedom January 29, 09 04:04 PM
  1. Cops still did it. What pieces of garbage we have, "protecting" this city.

    Lets' all slam a cops head on the ground just for giggles.

    Posted by TB January 29, 09 04:04 PM
  1. Honostly, Cops get worse by the day. This is a very sad story and could have happened to any college kid that has had a few pops in him. The craziest thing about it is that WE pay for these Cops to act like idiots, what a waste of tax dollars. Dont get me wrong, there are some good cops out there, I have friends that I would consider "good cops", but the majority are over paid, power hungry and over valued egotistical pigs. All I know is that the truth is known by the cops that did this, and good luck living with that.

    Posted by Areyouforreal? January 29, 09 04:07 PM
  1. stay tune next to a civil court case to be filed soon

    Posted by doug January 29, 09 04:08 PM
  1. All you people can sit there and say what ever you want but you do not know what happened only the ones that were there know so stop putting your tale of the story in. let the M E and The D A do their job thank you.

    Posted by should not talk January 29, 09 04:12 PM
  1. The police are NOT your friends. btw, what are the names of the arresting officers? I love the line "objective and independent review of the facts".
    Yea right. by the police? Have you ever met a police officer who was objective?

    Posted by Rentlums January 29, 09 04:16 PM
  1. Nobody ever asks what? "To serve and protect" what is the question. You all assume it's the public interest, but I suspect the end of that quote might actually be "the law" or "our own interests". Either way, it sounds good, but it has nothing to do with you, otherwise, it would say "to serve and protect the public".

    Posted by hippydippy January 29, 09 04:19 PM
  1. What really worries me are the sheep posting comments saying this kid got what he deserved. I guess some people just want to live in a police state with no rights.

    Posted by Rob L January 29, 09 04:22 PM
  1. 9 to 1 ? Jeesh who were they taking down Hulk Hogan or Shaq? Release your report as you will it's pathetic how police abuse the public and rape the system.

    Posted by oldguy323 January 29, 09 04:23 PM
  1. When there are 9 of them, odds are at least a few are bullys.

    Not surprised. I've seen the cop/bully personality too many times.

    Posted by JamesMichaelCurley January 29, 09 04:25 PM
  1. "I didn't know it was a crime to mouth off to a police officer."

    Of course it is. Police officers, like firefighters are heroes. To treat them otherwise is a crime.

    Posted by will January 29, 09 04:28 PM
  1. Hint: THEY NEVER ARE!

    How many times do we have to see the headlines "Fan dead after Police...."

    This poor Fan's death is more obvious than many others!

    Police Brutality is accepted over and over again!

    Posted by Hawk January 29, 09 04:28 PM
  1. I thought Massachusetts didn't have a death penalty. When did sarcasm become a capital crime?

    Who watches the watchman?

    Posted by LIz January 29, 09 04:29 PM
  1. I didn't know it was legal to walk around with a beer in your hand! What kind of moron mouths off to cops when they are breaking the law? I feel bad for the parents - if he had just get his mouth shut and his hands empty, he might be here today.

    Posted by policearentalwayswrong January 29, 09 04:30 PM
  1. "Woodman said, "Wow, it seems like there's a lot of crime on this corner.''

    Do not question authority, citizen.

    Posted by Harrybosch January 29, 09 04:35 PM
  1. Being a cop sucks. Anywhere. They see nothing but the bad side of society and they see it all the time. It is close to living in a sewer. They must go out in the worst sections and at the worst times. Times and places most people would not dare to go even with protection. They are ridiculed and lied to almost always and then we are surprised when they become cynical or "overreact". Everyone is in a tizzy because they are using Tasers now and some people have died. Maybe we should go back to the alternative, guns.

    Posted by Sharkey January 29, 09 04:38 PM
  1. Did you know that to become a cop you have to score below a certain grade?
    If you are too smart they do not want you. That is why they have a union. Not smart enough to negotiate their own wage and benefits. They have to pay their union pimps a percentage of their pay. They are just streetwalkers buy with a badge.

    Posted by TonyC January 29, 09 04:42 PM
  1. The kid shouldn't have been out there drinking and harassing cops, especially knowing his condition. He died 11 days later, unrelated to them "slamming his head" -- it couldn't have been that bad because there's no mention of any head injury. Leave the cops alone, they were doing their job. Sometimes life sucks, the kid didn't do anything to deserve his heart condition, but he did do something to deserve his arrest, and the police didn't do anything to deserve negative attention. What would you all have said about the cops if they hadn't arrested him and he was part of flipping over cars or rioting later??? It's easy to judge the police having never done the job yourself. FYI, I'm not a cop.

    Posted by jeff January 29, 09 04:42 PM
  1. Correction, James...every time a team wins a championship, the cops kill someone! I don't care if the cop's blood is pumping or not; their legal responsibility is to use the least force possible. And with NINE cops on the scene, that amounts to very, very little. It is Conley's ridiculous ruling here that reinforces many cop's God complex, that they can, and will, get away with anything. This poor kid dies because of nothing more than a sarcastic remark.....and that is indefensible. You want to know why people don't respect cops? Because of incidents like this. People only fear cops because we know they can get away with anything.

    Posted by Mike January 29, 09 04:56 PM
  1. This is an outrage but not, unfortunately, a surprise. There are too many cops in this city, state and country. And their actions are not accountable to the communities. The cops that arrested this kid for no reason belong in prison. This is not a free country as long as unreasonable search, arrest and murder by the forces of the State can happen. We need elected community boards to oversee all the cops in this country and when the cops step out of line, like the often do, the cops need to be put in prison.

    Posted by Leon Ilyich January 29, 09 04:59 PM
  1. Tim - "a secret: The police are scared too."

    Nine (9) cops are scared of one kid? This was nothing more than a couple of cops wanting to show off to the group and "oops" a dead kid results. Then they sort their stories out in a hurry and the DA gives a big *shrug* "It happens."

    Posted by CharlesM, Boston, MA January 29, 09 05:06 PM
  1. I've lived in a variety of major cities, in the USA and overseas: New York City, London, Los Angeles, and Chicago to name a few.

    I have never seen a more callous, nasty, reactive, bullying police force. The only reason why I think we Bostonians put up with it is that we haven't seen more professional police departments at work.

    Posted by Derrick January 29, 09 05:13 PM
  1. This was clearly positional asphyxiation caused by the BPD. Once again the killers go free. Hundreds of taser, shooting, and beating deaths and only a handful of convictions.

    The only reason the BART cop got arrested for murder is they didn't know someone on another subway car videoed the murder. The BART cops thought they had confiscated all the cellphones.

    Posted by BobinVA January 29, 09 05:18 PM
  1. Everyone including The Globe loves to slam the Cops until they need one. Is it tragic that a kid died, yes, is it a result of his stupidity, yes, did the Cops go over board maybe but the crowd and the situation probably contributed to both. Sometimes life isn't fair and sometimes it really is painful. In a civilized society one expects better from both the people as well as the law enforcement personnel. Since we seem as a society to continue to exhibit a lack of respect for others as well as oursleves can we expect anything else than what happened here?

    Posted by Pilot97 January 29, 09 05:19 PM
  1. what a tragic loss of life, nobody wins here. OK he had a heart defect and dies of natural causes but the poilce here acted recklessly, Why was he thrown to the ground and put into handcuffs? This action by the Police would cause anyone to have a heart attack. What a whitewash.....

    Posted by celtic dan January 29, 09 05:22 PM
  1. Please people...reserve your witty /incisive/ cutting edge posts for fluff pieces on Tom Brady, Celtics mascots, Jessica's weight, and whether "Lost" has jumped the shark. Spewing invective on truly sensitive matters about which we have very little actual knowledge cheapens the personal loss felt by those involved in this situation and adds to the misplaced idea that any one of us sitting anonymously behind a computer is able to fully comprehend any situation simply by accessing a few websites after barely reading a news article. I also hope that boston.com would see fit to limit responses to articles of such a personal nature.

    Posted by Michael January 29, 09 05:25 PM
  1. It all goes back to this- why did the kid resist arrest? Why did he give police a hard time? By being intoxicated his judgement was impaired and he made several poor decisions on how to appropriately interact with law enforcement with given an arrest order. The officers responded correctly. They are not mind readers and can't determine which individuals have a pre-existing heart condition.

    Would you be saying this if instead of resisting arrest, public drinking and being a drunken belligerent jackass, the kid had tried to sexually assault a girl and acted the same way when the police confronted him? I don't think too many tears would be shed. And really, it's the same set of facts. If you are are told to stop because you are being placed under arrest- FOR WHATEVER CRIME you can't be belligerent and resist it.

    Posted by don't resist arrest January 29, 09 05:27 PM
  1. This is a disgraceful example of abuse of power. A college kid with a plastic cup is hardly a threat to 9 police officers. Force should be implemented in the right circumstances and this isn't one of them.

    Posted by Norwoos mother of four January 29, 09 05:32 PM
  1. I've got an idea.......don't act like a jerk when the cops are around.
    Works for me!

    Posted by bostonspaz January 29, 09 05:54 PM
  1. These questions will never be answered and the truth will never be known because of the blue code of silence that is the paramount component of their oath of service. They also intentionally intimidated and threatened the murder victim's friends, forcing them to flee the murder scene, and thereby eliminated all eyewitnesses to their crimes. For civilians like you and me, this is known as a separate crime, where you are charged with witness intimidation. Then the murderers all fled like the cowards they are to a nearby hospital (complaining of "stress".....of being caught) where they all rehearsed and coordinated their "testilying" for the "investigation" they knew would follow.

    Posted by xxxboston January 29, 09 06:01 PM
  1. The Band of Brothers lives on. I hope the Woodmans take the BPD to the cleaners! This was an obvious case of excessive force that resulted in a needless and tragic loss of life.

    Posted by umpinchief January 29, 09 06:06 PM
  1. The reporting on this could have been a little more clear. Initially it sounded like Woodman and friends were just walking in the city. Then we are hit with the pertinent fact, at least one of them, Woodman, had an open container of alcohol. You would either have to be drunk or an idiot to be breaking the law and attempting to engage police with an offhand remark like "looks like there is a lot of crime on this corner."

    Maybe the cops could have turned the other cheek, but how about these guys turning the other corner? How much booze or how much bravado do you need to have. Bad enough that you flaunt the law in front of the cops, but then you have to be a wise acre about it too.

    No doubt the wrestling match with police that ensued triggered the biological events that led to this man's death. You're talking a situation where the cops are already on edge, literally expecting a riot. I feel bad for Woodman's friends because I am sure they have asked themselves a thousand times why didn't they use more sense. If you are going to sneak a beer out in public, you do it quiet, you avoid cops, not provoke them.

    Posted by JoePete January 29, 09 06:08 PM
  1. My heart breaks for this young man's family.. It could have been my son or yours..

    How many police officers did it take to subdue this huge threat to their safety ? And, how many were on top of him while he was fighting for his last breath ?

    SHAME !!!

    Posted by finallygram January 29, 09 06:29 PM
  1. I just wish ONE of those nine cops had the balls to tell the truth. See you in hell, boys!

    Posted by ralston January 29, 09 06:32 PM
  1. Since when does the local sports team winning a championship justify public drinking and acting like complete animals. Instead of celebrating in a civil and humane manner, this grown man acted like an idiot. When the officer went to arrest him (for illegally drinking in public) he most likely resisted which is why the police "slammed him to the ground". This justifies the officers reactions to this person's actions. STOP trying to blame the police for doing thier job. There is no excuse for the actions this person took upon himself.

    Posted by irishsouthpaw January 29, 09 06:33 PM
  1. I just find it curious that every time someone dies after an encounter with the Boston Police, the investigation concludes that they are innocent.

    I remember coming out of a store on Comm Ave. when I was in school in Boston and a cop was beating the crap out of a guy. It was brutal. I'm sure an investigation would have shown it was well deserved, though.

    And weren't those firefighters who were tanked on alcohol and cocaine and died in a fire a couple of years ago exonerated by an investigation by the Fire commissioner? (With apologies to their families, and may they rest in peace, but come on, when does one take responsibility for something?)

    Posted by Edward Knowlton January 29, 09 06:47 PM
  1. People are always fast to blame the police when something happens.Most of the time, As a father of young ladies 20 and 18 my heart goes out to the parents. But you people ever wonder that whenever something really bad happens who do you call? fire dept. the vet, a plumber, NO YOU CALL THE POLICE. If somebody breaks into your house you call the police when you hear a strange noise at night you call the police when shots are fired you are running away from it all they run towards it. Let me tell you it takes a special person to be a cop. Now they have to worry about the liability involve with the job.carlos

    Posted by carlos sanchez January 29, 09 07:13 PM
  1. No matter how you look at it, this young man died after being assaulted by the police and the officers should be held accountable. Being a fresh mouth or being drunk doesn't require such force especially with a 9-1 ratio.These officers are nothing more than Bullies with guns.

    Posted by GME January 29, 09 07:24 PM
  1. the vast majority of you people have no idea what the drunkin fools like this kid do on a daily basis,they break things ,hurt other people.,they assualt cops and emts.they drink themselves into alcohol poisoning,this poor kid and his friends were out drunk just down the block from where a roit like crowd was in full maheym.you people don't see this on the news.you don't hear how many times the crowd is told to go home,you don't have any idea what it is like to have a bottle thrown at your head from somewhere out a crowd of thousands.or to have a car burst into flams in front of you cause some kids are happy we won a championship. how many of you would cry and complain to the same police that you are so quick to judge if your car or store front is damaged?how many of you that are so sure of wrong doing by the police in this case ask for a cop if you got beat up or robbed/or ask for an emt if you sick or need the fire dept if your house is damged from a fire.we can' t come and help you because we are tied up with fools like this kid and his freinds.the drunkin fun comes at a cost for us all and they shold be arrested if they can't just go home when told to do so.

    Posted by maxdog1 January 29, 09 07:26 PM
  1. The facts are not clear but there is one fact that is......

    One must take responsibility for one's actions when drinking and journeying out in public. This would not have happened if the decedent had not been under the influence. Only a jerk would provoke police with such a sarcastic statement.

    Posted by SoxFanInToughTimes2 January 29, 09 08:01 PM
  1. In my ten years in Boston I have yet to see a cop here do a blessed thing to engage the community. They have the flexibility of character of a concrete block. "bullying arrogance" is my best description.

    NINE cops can't simply give someone a stern talking to? There was no excessive use of force? C'mon DA, at least wink and smile when you lie through your teeth. Pathetic.

    And to those of you who mention an open container of alcohol.. BIG DEAL. Go take a stroll on Tremont street if you want to see open containers and open drug use. You'll find everything but a police officer.

    Posted by Ellipsis January 29, 09 08:03 PM
  1. These comments amaze me. Someone threw out there, "these 9 cops on the corner soaking up OT", did it ever occur to you that the officers were ORDERED to work. The officers would have loved to have been home with their friends and families watching the celtics win the series. Instead they were ORDERED to stand on a corner to prevent people who do not know how to behave themselves from smashing your property or other people's faces. If the police were not ORDERED and your car window was smashed by some kid waking home drinking alcohol in public then your response the next day would have been "Typical, no cops around". This young man's death is tragic. But his interaction with the police was avoidable, and by all accounts the interaction was started by his own actions. The young man was drinking in public, that is illegal. If the officers chose to exercise their discretion and place him under arrest for the offense the young man does not have the right to resist arrest, that too is illegal. Just remember this, as you sit at home and type on your computer in the warmth of your little home, the moment you here a bump in the night, and you decide to dial 911 the police will always be there, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. They won't care if you just pressed submit and posted a comment about "soaking up overtime". No police officer is perfect and just like every job jerks abound in the department. But, do you really think that these nine officers, many of whom were likely ORDERED on their day off, woke up, got together, and decided they were really going to let this young man have it for drinking in public. They too have to live with the death of this young man for the rest of their lives and careers. God bless the deceased and his family and all those who serve the public.

    Posted by walkinmyshoes January 29, 09 08:43 PM
  1. Why should the police officers be at fault? Kid was drinking (breaking the law) and he drew attention to himself he got arrested, and died in their custody end of story. How did the police cause his death? Did they make him drink beer? Did they beg him to say something to them? Or was he trying to be smart alec hero in front of his buddies? You people are so ignorant it makes me sick. I suppose the Medical Examiner lied for the police, he wanted to risk his house, his job , his license, for 9 cops he doesn't know. Yeah and I'm sure his constitutional rights were violated, the police locked him up for drinking in public which is a crime btw how is that violating his rights? This is exactly why cities dont allow people to drink in public because it causes people to act stupid. Now Im sure if that same kid smashed a bottle over one of your heads you'd be crying for the police to come and lock him up, GET A LIFE

    Posted by Wim Vanderkamp January 29, 09 08:58 PM
  1. Dan Conley's office is afraid of challenges like going at it with the BPPA, but found it convenient to go after the guy who wished Dennis & Callahan were dead. So is the ME's office. That is the reason there were no findings. If a group of guys did they same thing two a healthy kid like they guy they killed, he'd be grandstanding in the media. I have respect for law enforcemen but those cowboys/cops sat on the poor kid, I bet. They do it all the time. They could have asked him to spill the beer and let him go, but no. THEY KILLED THE POOR KID!

    Posted by TooBad January 29, 09 09:11 PM
  1. Let's face it - unless there's a video of the scene, the cops are NEVER found at fault. Even with the video it's questionable, but without there is NEVER any finding of guilt on their part.

    Posted by phonyuser January 29, 09 09:19 PM
  1. Sure, the Cardiologist is part of the conspiracy, the medical examiner too!
    And the government is hiding the existence of UFO's.
    A 22yr old MAN, not a kid, At 22 he should be a college graduate with enough common sense to act civilly in society. Was he suppose to be drinking (never mind in public) with his heart condition? Was he on heart medication?
    Was he not aware of all the public announcements about acting responsibly at this event? I guess his generation just isn't learning common sense from playing video games and watching you tube videos. He had a heart condition that caused him to die, 11 days later. let me guess, the cops snuck into his room, and with the help of the doctor's and nurses, got him!


    Posted by Joe January 29, 09 09:44 PM
  1. If you are a police officer and you did the crime the punishment should be
    double, that's how I see it otherwise no one feel safe. Becsue their job is to
    protect and serve.

    Posted by stephanie January 29, 09 09:53 PM
  1. Conley, next to go. no pension for you.

    Posted by Justice Delayed January 29, 09 11:01 PM
  1. I like that you all know this is black and white. From the lack of transparency by the BPD, combined with what we do know, it seems to me that the cops were overly-aggressive, but the kid was a punk and probably died due to his heart condition and his reaction to the cops tossing him around. I'd like to see more restraint by the police when the situation warrants, but this kid seems to have been pushing his luck.

    Posted by LogicalBostonian January 29, 09 11:03 PM
  1. District Attorney Dan Conley is the Scourge of Boston & the entire Commonwealth. Commissioner Ed Davis is no better! We need a 2nd American Revolution; because slowly but surely our communities are being transferred into a 'Police State' & liberty is being run out of town! This is a disgrace on the Commonwealth; what pride can we have any longer in being citizens of Massachusetts?

    Posted by billybeantown January 30, 09 01:28 AM
  1. What ever happened to police officers who want to help people? Todays police officers actually feel justified in killing anyone who resists. why shouldnt they, they get away with murder literally? We need more effective watchdog groups, with the peoples best interest in mind!

    Posted by right January 30, 09 06:23 PM
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