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From the Metro staff at The Boston Globe

Markoff supporters put up Facebook website

April 23, 2009 03:28 PM Email| Comments (45)| Text size +

By Globe Staff

Supporters of Philip Markoff, the alleged Craigslist killer, have set up a Facebook website titled, "Phil Markoff is Innocent Until Proven Guilty."

The site says its goal is to rally people "against the media who is quick to place blame, against the culture that has forgotten that people like Phil are suspects, not killers."

The site had 35 members as of midafternoon, including several members of the media who were apparently seeking to reach out to Markoff supporters. The administrator, who was listed as Andrew "Boter" Hookway, didn't immediately return a message seeking comment.

The site also included 28 "wall postings," with some people saying that they knew Markoff and he should be considered innocent until proven guilty and others decrying the media coverage of the case and some reporters (including one from The Boston Globe) posting messages seeking people to interview.

Some people signed onto the site to say that they believed Markoff was guilty. "Guuuilty!" wrote one.

Hookway said in his own posting that he was contemplating disabling the wall so he didn't have to devote as much time to moderating it.

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45 comments so far...
  1. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty - but after proven, I'm sure it's jail where he'll be heading!!

    Posted by Kel April 23, 09 03:45 PM
  1. Markoff, Madoff...who can keep all these people apart?

    Posted by badera April 23, 09 04:16 PM
  1. I agree on innocent until proven guilty but given the amount of evidence pointing towards Markoff including e-mails to women from Craigslist, the gun and personal items, how can you not say he did not do it. People who are in denial, just give it up. Markoff turned to robbery to probably fuel a gambling addiction. Unless you believe Mark Ferman planted the evidence, Markoff is heading to jail.

    Posted by Rob A April 23, 09 04:18 PM
  1. I think there is still something called common sense among people.

    This guy is guilty --- in the court of public!

    those so called political correctness is really going tooooooooo far!

    Posted by m April 23, 09 04:20 PM
  1. Didn't these dolts see that he had stuff (evidence) from the scenes in his car??? And since the POLICE have said they used modern technology (email, phone, cell records) as well as foot leather... Come on.

    Have they also forgotten that there are witnesses (victims) that he didn't kill (just robbed) that were able to ID him????

    While he may technically be innocent until proven guilty... I think we can all safely say the police got the right guy.

    Posted by shawn02155 April 23, 09 04:30 PM
  1. give me a break.. do people seriously have nothing better to do

    Posted by jazz April 23, 09 04:30 PM
  1. Methinks those people need more purpose in their lives. As the evidence against Mr. Markoff mounts the bigger the fools they will forever be known.

    What will Mr. Hookway do when the complete facts come out?

    Posted by CJ April 23, 09 04:31 PM
  1. Give him a trial. If he is found guilty punish him. If not set him free

    Posted by anon April 23, 09 04:34 PM
  1. Ugh, who cares. evidence is evidence. I just wish they would hurry up the trial so we can just remove the "innocent until proven" part. Why does this facebook clown care anyway.

    Posted by boss8120 April 23, 09 04:37 PM
  1. Wow:

    Darfur rages and these folks are worried about Philip.
    Since Philip has a right to a fair trial, what the media does is irrelevant.
    Having said that, he IS guilty, of stupidity. And murder.


    Posted by ralston1 April 23, 09 04:37 PM
  1. Given his young-hipster age - one woudl think he would have known about "IP addresses" - one would have thought - well, like most criminals - they are idiots and this predator is no exception - an idiot - who will have 40-50 years to comtimplate his selfish & barbaric

    Posted by blinkee554 April 23, 09 04:42 PM
  1. Innocent until proven guilty my a**. I guess he found those panties on the street, or an unknown person put them in his home. This human trash should be put down like the animal that he is.

    Posted by CAJ April 23, 09 04:45 PM
  1. It's not a "Facebook website" or a "site", it's a Facebook group.

    Posted by t c April 23, 09 04:45 PM
  1. There is enough evidence to show that this guy is a predatory maniac. I'll bet he used his innocent looks to gain the victims' trust, and this all the more makes it wicked. He clearly lived a double life.

    Posted by Nelson C. Aquila April 23, 09 04:46 PM
  1. Waaaaaaaayyyyyyyy too much evidence against this guy. Just the way he composes himself in the courtroom is quite obvious that he committed these crimes. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.

    Burn baby burn.

    Posted by HangEmHigh April 23, 09 04:46 PM
  1. he is guilty the evidence ws found in his house so let this bastard rot in jail or be hanged.he had their personal properties

    Posted by empressja April 23, 09 04:50 PM
  1. GUILTY!!!

    Posted by Dan April 23, 09 04:52 PM
  1. You can't go around killing hookers

    Posted by Ben Seniorsam April 23, 09 04:52 PM
  1. Philip Markoff was a member of the Young Republicans at SUNY, and now he is being tried and convicted in the librul media, such as the Globe. When Hannity and Beck come to his defense, you will all see the mighty power of Faux News telling the real story. The story that the Globe doesn't want to get out.

    Posted by Jonny Wingnut April 23, 09 04:55 PM
  1. So whaaaaaaaat:

    Guuuuuuiltyyy!

    With a capital "G"

    Posted by Quick2Judge April 23, 09 04:56 PM
  1. Man, people want to be right so much that they will go to any lengths to prove it, even in the face of solid evidence they are wrong. Now, I’m not saying that this guy is guilty, he’ll get his day in court…but I really have been wanting to ask this of all the readers out there who are repeating “innocent until proven guilty”…

    OJ was never proven guilty. Does this mean he’s innocent?

    Posted by Yoshimi April 23, 09 04:57 PM
  1. This case already demonstrated that men get accused of things they don't do. The Police received 170 tips. Some "came from women convinced that their former boyfriend or former husband was the killer." (Boston Globe April 23, 2009).

    Posted by Jean-Francois April 23, 09 05:07 PM
  1. Is this the same person who set up an OJ, Scott Peterson, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy and Charles Stuart were all wrongly accused by the media blog?

    Posted by ramona126 April 23, 09 05:19 PM
  1. I think this shines a light on a terrible double standard. Since Markoff is a white med student, nobody is willing to believe he is "capable" of a crime like this.

    I truly wonder whether or not there would be a similar Facebook group if the suspect were a minority auto mechanic instead of a white med student.

    Posted by bk April 23, 09 05:27 PM
  1. Most innocent people don't try to hang themselves with their own shoelaces.

    Posted by Andrew April 23, 09 05:29 PM
  1. Blaming the media. Wow, there's a new one.

    Posted by Justina April 23, 09 05:37 PM
  1. this guy may be book smart, but he's not the brightest criminal in the bunch. it's gonna be hard to pin this on someone else.

    unless someone planted a gun, bindings, and some undies, sent emails from his computer, put his fingerprints all over, AND invited him to those hotels for some drinks on all those occasions to capture his creepy mug on camera... it just looks really bad for him.

    Posted by meg April 23, 09 05:49 PM
  1. Sometimes evidence is pretty clear-cut. In such a case, formally proving guilt is only a matter of formality in court. In fact, such cases rarely reach trial because defendants will usually be offered a plea bargain arrangement rather than drag the whole world through a trial that the defendant will almost certainly lose anyway. Without a trial, is a defendant ever "proven" guilty anyway?

    In any case... a market-based approach might help here. I'll sell you a certificate that will be worth $1 if Markoff survives the judicial process without being convicted, and $0 if Markoff is convicted. If there were a market for such certificates, what would the going price be today, given the damning evidence found in his apartment? That would give you a good indication of how our society as a whole perceives Markoff; such "markets" in the past have been rather good at predicting things like this because they pool information from many participants.

    If there were a market for these things in this case, I doubt "Markoff certificates" would sell for much more than a penny or two. I am a lot more certain today that he's headed for jail than I was that Obama would win the election 3 nights before it happened.

    So in a case that the evidence is pretty clear-cut, is it not rational to start acting based on something that's almost certainly true?

    Posted by Bob April 23, 09 05:53 PM
  1. Police rarely make an arrest without sufficient evidence already in their possession. When they started to surveille Markoff, they knew that his "clean-cut-preppie-affluent" profile would be an obstacle with the public. But they made their move because they had enough evidence to go after him.

    When all is said and done (i.e., the ballistics report) there will be little doubt in anyone (who is capable of rational thought) that this man is wicked guilty.

    Posted by 1spinky1 April 23, 09 05:54 PM
  1. Markoff madeoff with the undies.

    Posted by barney April 23, 09 06:04 PM
  1. If Markoff is guilty, it may not be a gambling addiction, per se, that was his motivation. He was apparently living exceedingly well for a medical student. His real motivation may have been been an intense need for a certain type of attention that was expensive to maintain. The greed for that attention overtook all other priorities, and he resorted to robbery, gambling, and if necessary, murder, to maintain that image.

    In any case, whether it was a gambling addiction or an addiction to attention, he clearly (again assuming guilt) has shown little conscience about the needs of his victims, not to mention his fiancee, family, and friends. This same addiction probably clouded his otherwise sharp intelligence. This also might prove to have been a great good fortune, as he was prevented from putting his future wife at risk, not to mention his future patients as their doctor.

    I also think it should be said that, as tragic as it was, Julissa Brisman's life was not lost in vein. Markoff, if guilty, was clearly ready to kill if necessary to accomplish is goals. However, he may have just begun his path into serial killing. If he had managed to avoid killing his victims, he might have gone well into his marriage and medical career before he committed his first murder. By then, he might have been well-enough practiced to avoid being caught as a murderer for some time to come. Brisman's heroic fight and death may have nipped this serial killer's career in the bud, for the benefit of us all.

    Finally, if the police have the wrong man, we should find out soon enough. The longer time passes without a similar crime, the more likely it is that they have their man, and that is before all the evidence has been gathered and applied at trial, where the final verdict will have to be decided.

    Posted by Daniel J. Rose April 23, 09 06:06 PM
  1. How does the fiance explain the presence of the undergarments of the victims in his apartment? That is a pretty big hurdle to leap.

    Posted by P Sampson April 23, 09 06:07 PM
  1. the administrator has disabled the comments feature of this group. looks like they can't handle the truth.
    these people had better look long and hard at the anthony family in orlando and reevaluate the way they choose to present themselves.
    fansites for murderers rarely help the case for the defendant. better all these deluded people keep their mouths shut. they are just going to look more and more foolish when he is convicted.
    bridezilla's just angry cos it looks like she can't have her precious wedding.

    Posted by stonermoog April 23, 09 06:12 PM
  1. Many people are fooled by sociopaths. They are pros at fooling people into thinking they couldn't hurt a fly as they think their evil thoughts, and do their evil deeds when they aren't being watched. No surprise many rally around the "nice guy" serial killers, despite a mountain of evidence against them. I knew someone once that got arrested for being a child molester. At first we all thought "no way, this dude is too cool, too normal acting". When we learned all the facts, we realized it was indeed true.

    Posted by marco April 23, 09 06:18 PM
  1. Although the evidence is against him, who is to say that the police did not plant the evidence in an effort to nab him? This happens all of the time just ask the non white community. Agreed that the video snapshots tell a different story but he is innocent until proven guilty. I would seek DNA evidence and much more. OJ had a damn bloody glove in his back yard and he got off.

    Posted by sonia April 23, 09 06:18 PM
  1. Although the evidence is against him, who is to say that the police did not plant the evidence in an effort to nab him? This happens all of the time just ask the non white community. Agreed that the video snapshots tell a different story but he is innocent until proven guilty. I would seek DNA evidence and much more. OJ had a damn bloody glove in his back yard and he got off.

    Posted by sonia April 23, 09 06:19 PM
  1. This a timely piece. For one murder, I have never seen as much coverage. Other murders occur all the time in far more gruesome fashions. They have victims that weren't selling "services" which is a bad situation onto itself. With the increased coverage, I further believe in innocent until proven guilty that much more. It doesn't change my opinion that he is most likely guilty. The media should not decide on an unfair portrayal based on the money it will generate. Just look at the bar "inside boston.com" and see the face of the victim as if she innocently was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    Posted by kingfish April 23, 09 06:19 PM
  1. what if the anonymous sources are incorrect and the "evidence" turns out to be a police plant? its happened before, who's to say it won't happen again? that is why the laws in this country allow due process. if they evidence is overwhelming, let him rot in jail. if the evidence is flimsy, shouldn't the guy get a fair chance at defending himself? i haven't heard of any confession from him.....

    Posted by jobes April 23, 09 06:22 PM
  1. That's fine, he isn't on trial in the court of public opinion anyway. He'll be convicted soon enough so enjoy your silly Facebook page while you still can. The IP address is a direct match with the woman he killed, there better be a good enough amout of doubt beyond that or else he is up shiz-creek.

    Posted by Jeff April 23, 09 06:35 PM
  1. Really. Of course he's guilty - that's a no-brainer. It's up to a COURT OF LAW to officially decide guilt or innocence - but the Court of Public Opinion can speculate ALL THEY WANT. And, of course, he's guilty. There's tons of evidence - electronic, forensic, surveillance. Get a grip, you stupid Facebook people wasting your time defending a psychopath. Yeah, he'll be going to prison. Not "jail" - PRISON. The case of the Boston "Craigslist Killer" is over - they got him, and prison awaits.

    Posted by FV April 23, 09 07:18 PM
  1. Personally, I think the fiance' is just as sick, to stand by someone w/ all the evidence they have against him, I mean I can understand she loves him, but come on, will you marry the guy and see him during visiting hours? The man will more than likely get the death penalty - he took a life, I'd be more sympathetic toward the family who lost their daughter/sister - it was just posted her 26th birthday would have been tomorrow, instead of celebrating, they're putting her in the ground!
    This whole story makes me sick...

    Posted by K April 23, 09 10:06 PM
  1. In this day and age, do you really think that the police would arrest this guy unless they had him? His girlfriend needs to wake up and smell the roses. Too bad she can't talk to Lacey Peterson. I bet Lacey would tell her that in her wildest dreams she would never think that Scott would or could kill her and their baby. We need to wake up and realize what kind of world we really live in. Trust, but verify and I guess this guy has been verified. Nothing this gal can do will change any facts, at this point. She just picked the wrong guy to love. It happens to a lot of people. This gal should get on her knees every morning and thank God that it wasn't her that he came down on.

    Posted by Margie Hartman April 24, 09 12:36 AM
  1. He's told his own family to forget about him because there "will be more coming out"!! The people to support emotionally right now are first his parents, then his fiancee, then the rest of his family members, friends, etc.

    Posted by duckk April 27, 09 01:52 PM
  1. Number one: STOP CALLING HER GIRLFRIEND "HIS FINANCE'S" SHE HAS A NAME OF HER OWN AND IS NOT BOUND TO HIM UNTIL SHE SAYS "I DO!"
    Number two: This girl needs COUNSELING to open her eyes and stop dreaming a life that might never ever be as she dreamed of once! Everyday! They are founding MORE AND MORE EVIDENCE! It might be very possible that he will end up in jail for the rest of his life, girl! YOU MUST MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE, HONEY YOU ARE NOT BOUND TO HIM UNTI L YOU SAY "I DO!" IF HE WERE YOUR HUSBAND I WILL UNDERTAND YOU SUPPORTING HIM, BUT HE IS JUST A BOYFRIEND, MOVE ON! FOR YOUR OWN SAKE!

    Posted by Mrs. M April 27, 09 03:10 PM
  1. I really believe the point in having the Facebook 'Innocent till Proven Guilty' is to not 'wait and see if he's guilty'. But to remind people/critics/media that we are adults, so let's act like adults in our comments, etc.

    Posted by ghaste May 27, 09 01:24 PM
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