AUDIO: Fallon interview

Former CENTCOM commander William J. Fallon talked to the Globe about the war in Iraq, relations with Iran, and the emergence of China. Click play below to listen.
(AP)
On the Iraq war: "It's essentially over."
On the troop surge: "The surge is no plan. That's nonsense. The surge is a decision to put resources out there."
"We need to figure out a way to work on the problem of having 30 years of no dialogue with Iran."
"In the Pacific, we had one long-term issue, and that's called China."
Audio by Bryan Bender, Globe Staff; Produced by Jason Tuohey, Boston.com Staff