Polls differ on Clinton vs. Republicans
All the attacks on Hillary Clinton by her Democratic rivals, plus her own missteps, may not only have tightened the primary race but also hurt her support among all voters.
A new national Zogby Interactive poll, released late Monday, suggests that Clinton would lose to all five leading Republicans in hypothetical matchups -- a dramatic reversal from earlier polls that showed her leading them. For instance, while she led Mitt Romney 48 percent to 38 percent in a July Zogby poll, the new poll has Romney leading Clinton 43 percent to 40 percent.
By contrast, Clinton's main Democratic challengers, Barack Obama and John Edwards, either lead or are tied in hypothetical matchups with the Republicans.
The poll results could throw another wrench in a key point in Clinton's case to Democrats -- that she is the most electable candidate. Clinton has been trying to wage a campaign to win the nomination, but also to position herself for the general election.
But a new Gallup poll released Monday night showed Clinton slightly ahead of Rudy Giuliani and John McCain in matchups, and further ahead of Fred Thompson and Romney. The poll also put Obama in a tie with Giuliani, slightly ahead of McCain, and with bigger leads over Thompson and Romney.
Her campaign also points out that the presidency is decided not by overall popular vote, but by state-by-state results in the Electoral College -- and that she still does better against Republicans than other Democrats in many key swing states that have decided recent presidential elections.
And on CBS News Monday night, Clinton exuded confidence. In an interview with anchor Katie Couric, Clinton said she hadn't really considered the possibility that she would not be the Democratic nominee.
"If it's not you, how disappointed will you be?" Couric asked.
Replied Clinton, "Well, it will be me."



How disgusting for democrats that all Obama and Edwards could do is to drag down other demacrat and promote themselves. Shame of Obama's "politics of hope"
I don't have the appetite for another war between Republicans and Clintons, I'm sure I am not alone, and that's why she could possibly lose. I'm keeping an eye on a potential third candidate entering the race, perhaps on the Unity '08 ticket, which could pose a sensible alternative to Clinton, if she in fact carries the Democrat nomination.
ZOGBY INTERACTIVE IS NOT SCIENTIFIC. SEE YESTERDAY'S GALLUP, WHERE HILLARY IS LEADING. BOSTON GLOBE SHOULD HAVE NOTED THIS, BIASED ARTICLE.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/102862/Democratic-Candidates-Look-Good-Latest-2008-Trial-Heats.aspx
Maybe the country is waking up the the fact that HC is not qualifies to manage this country. What business has HC ever owned or managed?
I would venture a bet that HC could not run a local donut shop, except that BC would have free donuts and then HC would seek a bailout (higher taxes on the rcih) to support her donut shop.
Were the Clinton years really that bad. I have nothing but good things to say about the Clintons having served in the military, getting a college education and a six figure salary as a result. This nation and the world would do well to remeber the progress made in that period. I can't think of any progress that has been made for the better since.
Wendy, you are clueless. Clinton will NOT win the presidency. Their remarks are valid and show the true flaws of Hillary Clinton. They are no more "dirty-tricks" than any of the underhanded thing sthe Clinton camp has done. I have never met a person who would vote for Hillary Clinton, and I live ina very liberal city in a very liberal state. What you fail to address is the fact that Obama has ANSWERS. Clinton has only excuses and waffle-answers.
Hillary and Bill Clinton have deceived the American public for so long and we should not tolerate that for one more day.
We will be in for four more years of their "deny, lie, and distract" style.
The world has changed and is innovative and fresh with internet etc.....we need the same in our President....Obama or McCain 08
John McCain start leading, declare your running mate and go on the offensive.
Forget party lines, pick Joe Lieberman, unite the country and lets get some experienced capable candidates to break our lazy oil addition, create insentives to address health care for the elderly and educate our youth in the real reality show, civics.
America needs competent Americans in government; we have enough of incompetents and anarchists representing us. No, matter your political party affiliation, and setting aside your thoughts on issues. We all need to remember what it is to be an American Citizen. We need to make sure our elected representatives obey their Oath of Office and keep their Oath of Allegiance. See http://tinyurl.com/2znnvl Know whom you are voting for.
As a Democrat Hilary Clinton is the last one I would vote for as president.I dont know about those polls but here in ohio none of my Dem friends would support her. I do think she would lose big time
I for one am a registered democrat and will not be voting for clinton if she wins the nomination I would prefer obama and if giuliani wins the gop I would have a tough decision to make but I flat out will not vote for clinton she repeatedy defend the broken way things are done in washington and in order to have a clear consience I cannot vote to put her in office
I would like much more support for Joe Biden. I believe he could be a uniter for the Democratic Party as well as provide much needed leadership for a Foreign Policy that will help bring this country back to a respected position in the World.
Where is the media when it comes to coverage of the second tier of candidates?
I'm afraid of Hillary, she is a socialist, but so are the other Dems except maybe Biden.
Why would we want the government controlling health care? Does anyone enjoy going to the DMV?
Clinton's strength is in people's willingness to underestimate her. She has taken it on the chin her entire political life, we've seen this woman bounce back before, not so much guns blazing but with a calm demeanor. However, as always it's not who Republicans or Democrats will vote for it's the undecided or Independent voters that will swing this thing.
Could it be Fox news and other pundit outlets trying to grease the wheels of an exhausted and uninspired Republican base by trying to undermine the Clinton campaign with hearsay and polls? Nah, that would never happen!
By the way I love the moniker you have given this column, everyone loves an oxymoron.
Thinking that a third-party candidate could be elected is simply delusional. Not here, not now. And the fact is, Mrs. Clinton wouldn't carry a single state that John Kerry didn't carry; that alone makes her non-electable. The Democrats have a golden opportunity, even a breeze, if they nominate a moderate with broad popular appeal -- not, unfortunately, Mrs. Clinton. Enough swift-boating and outright lying from wackos like Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh is going to be directed at whoever the Dems nominate, no matter how spotless their character and record; it's a mistake to give the weasels someone so easily attacked as Hillary. It's time to move toward unity, not division.
Virtually all of the republicans I know are pulling for Hillary. I think Zogby is right on the money. Hillary is not only beatable, she is by far the least liked democratic candidate the republican nominee will face.
Ron Paul is the only one running who knows how to tell the truth. This country needs an enema, and Ron Paul is just the guy to do it. He's a Libertarian, but knows that party can't win. Not now, anyway. Check him out on YouTube. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at his candor and honesty - especially when discussing Iraq and Iran, the IRS, and other things we don't need.
Pointing out that she is a corporate Democrat, not a populist is not a personal attack, it is the truth. Pointing out that she is so afraid of looking weak that she keeps voting for neo-con policies is not a personal attack, it is the truth. How else are her competition supposed to have a chance in this race, when the media seems content to just give her the nomination now, if they don't point out that she really isn't for what most people on the left support.
Thank goodness the polls are beginning to reflect what anyone talking about this race to their friends and neighbors already knows...Hillary Clinton is very unlikely to win if she is the nominee. So many people just do not like her and will never vote for her. I am not just talking about angry white Republicans, but people who should be voting democratic: women, union members etc. I have yet to hear a convincing argument that she will win one state that either Gore or Kerry lost. Hopefully all the people who are for her because they believe her campaign's hype about her being so electable will wake up and get behind an Edwards/Obama ticket, which could win and would actually mean real change, not Bush light.
Im not throwing a vote at what the main stream media wants me to belive.
I can think for my self. And I can only hope that enough voters out there
do the same.
In response to Phil:
“Why would we want the government controlling health care? Does anyone enjoy going to the DMV?”
So you think the Police and the Fire Fighters should be privatized too? And what about our military? By your logic, anything government run is incompetent. When it comes to congress, I agree with you. But our military is the best in the world.
The U.S. has one of the worst patient satisfaction ratings of the industrialized countries … yes, the ones who have nationalized healthcare. Where did I get this information? From Fox news:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,136990,00.html
Phil, we don’t have healthcare in this country, we have sick care. Our system only works if you are a millionaire.
Everyone who says he/she will not vote for Hillary Clinton do not give valid facts or well thought our reasons. The reasons are usually based on emotion and repeat of the hype from broadcasters, TV pundits etc. Tell me exactly why you would not vote for her. Give me specifics. I want to know so I can make an informed choice.
It is all so simple. Hey America, open your eyes and ears. Hillary Clinton is shameful and Barack Hussein Obama is pathetic. These are two very well defined Socialists who are so Marxist indoctrinated as to scare the pants right off of Karl Marx himself. Clinton is a divider with the 'Divide and Conquer" mentality. Poor little Obama has about as much leadership ability and experience for the Presidency as his latest supporter, Oprah Winfrey. Wake up folks, we are rapidly approaching the point of no return. The question in 2008 will be this: Do we want to become a Socialist State or do we want to remain a republic as our forefathers and founding fathers intended? It is not the responsibility of the "State" to take care of all of us from cradle to grave. We, the people, tell our congressmen and senators as well as the President of the United States what to do and if they aren't doing the job, we should have the right to re-call. Let us all be 'Masters of our Own House" and not turn this country over to the liberal/socialist agenda; that of anarchists, athiests, hedonists and secularists. God save us from the Clinton/Obama/Edwards threat to our sovereignty.
It’s quite sad when your position on matters changes as quickly and as often as a traffic light. Let’s face it; running a country requires more than flying a kite around in the wind, it takes strong proven leadership. It requires someone with a vision and the backbone to see things through for the greater good. It takes someone who is genuine.
Unfortunately for Hillary a bunch of hot air and preaching from the podium falls way short on any of these characteristics. The truth is it would strain anyone to provide an example of where Hillary has demonstrated any meaningful degree of leadership. Case in point, I challenge anyone out there to name one thing she has accomplished as a New York State senator, just one thing. And she wants to lead this great nation. Please!
I am a lifetime republican. I am sick of the Clinton's and I am sick of the Bush's.
Let's get some new blood into the whitehouse so we can move forward as a people in this country regardless of our affiliation. Obama or Edwards are much more electable candidates. If either had the media machine backing them as does Hillary you may find a democrat in the whitehouse next november.
You could beat me with a rubber hose and I still would never vote for Senator
Clinton.
Ron Paul would pretty much dominate any of the Democrats.
Hillary's arrogance is so clear, that it is unbelievable to me that the American people can even CONSIDER her as president.
The fact that, in her interview, she won't even concede that the thought of losing EVER enters her mind is incredible. Normal human beings are just that, normal. We cannot control our thoughts, it is impossible. Is she SUPERHUMAN?
Thoughts are controlled by the subconscious mind and not the conscious mind. However, compartmentalization is possible,just look at Bill's track record.
Clearly she so convinces herself about a belief, that it becomes her reality. Just recall her statements on national newscasts that the Bill thing was a VAST FAR RIGHT conspiracy. She wanted then and now for us to beleive that she never
even had the idea that the things about Bill were true?
Now, she is announcing Colin Powell in her state department? That man is so clear about who he is and decisions that he makes. Now she presumes that if asked he would take the job? Personally, I don't think he would. He has made it clear that he makes decisions that he believes are correct for him and is not ego driven or emotionally pulled by others. I respect him.
The debacle of her healthplan, her White House travel staff firings, historic abandonment of her friends when they jeopardize her/Bill's political desires.?
Words I would use to describe her are egomaniacal, ideologue, cutthroat, and so out of touch with reality about herself and Bill that she TRULY believes everything she says. AND THAT IS VERY VERY SCARY!
And if I am wrong and she knows she is lieing, that is even more scary.
Clearly, Bill did the same thing and rationalized every lie that he told as well. That is not judgmental. That is a fact. When you have two people like this together?
Wow! How scary is that?
While I doubt that I would vote Democratic, I do not beleive the others seeking the nomination have this mental issue.
Hillary Clinton scares the hell out of me!! I agree with some of the others: Biden is the only person in the field who can match up against a Republican. He has more experience in the Senate than the top three candidates (Clinton, Obama, Edwards) combined...times 3! Plus he has more foreign policy experience than anybody in the GOP.
when the general election begins hillary will distinguish herself from the very weak repuplican nominee as the best hope for this country we can't take another term of corporate dominated leadership (oil,drug,insurance co's) americans need a fair shake from washington, whats best for all americans is how to choose the direction of the country not the narrow moneyed interests that have dominated for the past eight years
when the general election begins hillary will distinguish herself from the very weak repuplican nominee as the best hope for this country we can't take another term of corporate dominated leadership (oil,drug,insurance co's) americans need a fair shake from washington, whats best for all americans is how to choose the direction of the country not the narrow moneyed interests that have dominated for the past eight years
I find it sadly ironic that the comments above are projecting their fears onto Mrs. Clinton. Bush and Cheney are frightening for their arrogance, incompetence, and lack of any comprehension, empathy and respect for people who are not like them, not as fortunate as they. Mrs. Clinton, while not my first choice, would not have gotten us into the unprecented debacle of Iraq, abandonment of Afghanistan, etc. She supported the war because she did not want to be seen as weak on defense. I attribute much of the hate comments above to the fact that she is a woman, and the qualities we admire in men are often derided in a woman. She would do one hell of a good job as president.
I find it amazing that so many people totally forget that having Hillary in the White House also means having Bill in the White House. And whatever else you may want to believe about him, he was one of the best Presidents this country has ever had. It would be an enormous boost to international relationships if Hillary were President.
Hillary couldn't win this election to save her life. Democrats will not vote for her. They hate her so much they can/will either not vote, vote for a third party, or vote for a Rupublican. Even a Hillary/Obama or a Hillary/Edwards won't cut it. She is wrong for this country and should probably drop out. She will cost the Democrats the election.
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