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Dukakis on Obama and the grassroots

Posted by Lisa Wangsness, Political Reporter December 6, 2007 11:54 AM

Former Governor Michael Dukakis says he can't understand why Barack Obama's campaign has failed to turn his huge grassroots following into a powerful ground organization.

Dukakis, who built his political career with strong grassroots campaigns, spoke for a couple of hours last night at Emerson College, reflecting on his own presidential run in 1988 and this year's election.

Obama, he said, has not yet tapped the power of the crowds that turn out to hear him speak -- "they shouldn't be allowed to leave the room" without signing up to volunteer, he said -- and that the Illinois senator has not capitalized on the hundreds of thousands of Internet contributions he's received.

He said his wife Kitty, an Obama supporter and contributor, routinely gets e-mails from the campaign asking her to donate more money, but not to canvass for the campaign.

"I'm baffled," he said, adding that Obama could be a "formidable" candidate if he figured out how to harness his popularity by organizing at the precinct level, as Deval Patrick did in 2006.

A student involved in the Obama campaign countered that the campaign had recruited lots of volunteers at Obama's last rally in Boston, and that busloads of Massachusetts supporters were traveling to New Hampshire to canvass.

Dukakis shook his head impatiently. The campaign has to be run from the neighborhoods, he said, with New Hampshire people canvassing in New Hampshire and Massachusetts people canvassing their own blocks.

"This state is going to be important," he added, noting that Massachusetts has moved its primary up to Feb. 5. "They should be working here."

Dukakis said he is also very concerned that the Democratic Party as a whole does not understand that running a grassroots race in all 50 states is critical to winning the 2008 election -- as witnessed by the party's impatience with Howard Dean, he said, who wants to do just that.

Dukakis also called Romney as "a fraud" and joked about the Globe story yesterday that found Romney continuing to use a landscaping service that employs illegal immigrants, despite Romney's high-flown rhetoric against those who harbor them.

"I use a push-lawnmower, and have ever since Kitty and I were married, " said the famously thrifty Dukakis, to laughter. "If you do your own grass-cutting with a push-lawnmower you'll never get into trouble about illegal immigrants. But then, my house is somewhat smaller, with considerably less land."

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Hey Mike, I'm helping Obama in Texas, we don't have a primary until March. I think if you were involved in Obama's campaign, you'd see a lot more grass roots effort is going on than you think.

Posted by Dan, TX December 6, 07 04:16 PM
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Great speech!! got my vote!

Posted by Shadi December 6, 07 04:19 PM
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I agree completely and we have four precinct captains here in our little town just east of Cedar Rapids. I am working my butt off, and SO appreciate all of the doorknockers and phone banking being done by volunteers from elsewhere! C'mon Governor, join Kitty! Lots of us voted for you because we believed you were the voice of reason and judgement, the face of courage and wisdom, the presence of integrity. Senator Obama is all those things and will face down the well-funded in government.

Posted by Mary, Cedar Rapids Iowa December 6, 07 05:36 PM
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I don't know what Dukakis is talking about. Obama is opening offices in places like Alabama, Alaska, and Kansas. David Yepsen wrote a column a few weeks ago in which he singled out Obama as someone who understands how to organize in the difficult Iowa Caucuses. I have personally noted that when I see video of his speeches in Iowa, he unfailingly asks people in the crowd to fill out supporter cards. Every single time! Like I said, I just don't know what Dukakis is talking about.

Posted by Patrick December 6, 07 09:08 PM
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Gov. Dukakis: please help us work to put Barack in the White House!

(I had the privilege of voting for you when you ran for President/you are also the best governor we ever had in Massachusetts).

Posted by Laurie December 6, 07 09:28 PM
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I'm not sure what Gov. Dukakis is talking about -- like Kitty, I've donated to the Obama campaign -- but unlike here, I've received numerous email and telephone requests to go to NH for the campaign, to participate in state organizing here in Vermont, to attend rallies, to sign up others as supporters... not sure why I'm getting these requests and she isn't. (And even though Vermont also has a late primary, there is a very active mobilization going on in state.)

I've also heard from friends who are on the spot that when Obama speaks in Iowa, he is very specific about caucus turnout and focused on getting people to sign cards for caucusing, and that staff/volunteers are really good at getting caucus cards from those attending.

I also think that the Obama web site does a far better job than any other campaign in offering interactive/ social networking opportunities to participate in the campaign.

That said, any assistance Dukakis wants to give to Obama campaign to mobilize the grassroots would be more than welcome!

Posted by Terje December 6, 07 11:51 PM
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I volunteered for Dukakis' 1988 campaign but never heard back from them. Gret organizing.

Posted by jay December 7, 07 03:42 AM
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Dukakis acknowledges that there is an awful lot of grassroots enthusiasm for Obama. And sure, busing in enthusiastic, if inexperienced, volunteers from out of state is certainly better than nothing. Certainly he has to do well in NH and SC etc first.

But my experience, especially from 2004 and congressional campaigns since, is that there is often a lot of inefficiency and confusion involved in bringing in well-intentioned, but green volunteers to canvas unfamiliar turf. A charismatic, inspiring candidate and a favorable media wave can do a lot for a campaign. But for Obama to get the turnout he needs in later primary states -- and hopefully the general election -- his campaign needs to train volunteers and staff now who will know the places they are organizing and canvassing; who can actually reach and motivate Obama-leaning voters. Ideally, these volunteers and staff will be from the places they are canvassing. That is what Bush's campaign did successfully in 2004 and is one of the things that Kerry's campaign failed to do.

Posted by Evan Oakley December 7, 07 07:05 AM
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