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No cookies yet, but tea becomes a topic

Posted by Marcella Bombardieri, political reporter December 28, 2007 07:02 PM

WEBSTER CITY, Iowa – The debate about whether Hillary Clinton’s eight years as First Lady qualify as solid foreign policy experience has picked up anew today.

Barack Obama had a cutting remark on the trail: “It’s that experience, that understanding, not just of what world leaders I went and talked to in the ambassadors house I had tea with, but understanding the lives of the people like my grandmother who lives in a tiny hut in Africa,” he said in Iowa.

Chris Dodd had a similar take. “To somehow suggest having been the First Lady is the kind of experience that qualifies you to be president, I’ve never heard that argument before,” he told Time.

Former secretary of state and Clinton supporter Madeleine Albright shot back at Obama. “Senator Clinton has been in refugee camps, clinics, orphanages, and villages all around the world, including places where tea is not the usual drink,” she said in a statement. “In addition to these experiences she has met with world leaders and has known many of them for years.”

Clinton herself has been speaking in the last two days about how she knew Benazir Bhutto for a dozen years after having visited her in Pakistan as First Lady.

The Clinton campaign also opened a fancy new website, attacktimeline.com, that documents Obama and John Edwards’s attacks on the New York Senator. Obama has a similar site called “Hillary Attacks.”

UPDATE: The Obama campaign said the senator was not speaking about Clinton, rather he was just contrasting his own experience with the typically shallow trips that members of Congress take to foreign lands.

10 comments so far...
  1. I bet Hilary's kitty smells like fish....

    because what she says, smells like ship.

    Hillary Clinton couldn't control here own husband in the White House, how is she qualified to control the White House?

    Oh well, if Hilary is elected,

    Bill Clinton becomes the First Lady!!

    Posted by Shane December 29, 07 02:09 AM
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  1. Looks like the Clinton monarchy is attempting to "tax" Senator Obama's statements about "tea". Since their royal attendants seem to have little to do these final days, maybe each of us should send their Iowa and NH offices one tea bag in the mail. Perhaps chamomile to help calm their nerves? How about a little Boston Tea Party fun to get them ready for the next American Revolution?

    Posted by JC December 29, 07 09:49 AM
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  1. Looks like the Clinton monarchy is attempting to "tax" Senator Obama's statements about "tea". Since their royal attendants seem to have little to do these final days, maybe each of us should send their Iowa and NH offices one tea bag in the mail. Perhaps chamomile to help calm their nerves? How about a little Boston Tea Party fun to get them ready for the next American Revolution?

    Posted by JC December 29, 07 09:51 AM
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  1. Hillary's has been getting a complete pass on her statement of having experience for 35 yrs until the NYT called her out. For that matter, why is there never any talk of Edward's experience or lack thereof? She would have had my vote if she had shown leadership on going to Iraq. She didn't even read the intelligence report but walked lock step with Bush to hedge her bets that it would help her in a run for office. No thanks, I will take honesty and clear leadership any day.

    Obama '08

    Posted by Anne December 29, 07 11:31 AM
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  1. Amazaing how the media has left Senator Clinton to get away with this nonsense about how she has more experience than other democratic candidates in the race. Following this logic, all previous First Ladies have the same experience as the former presidents, former first children have the same experience as the former presidents and also all wives have the same experience as their husbands. I hope that all can take credit for the success and failures

    Some of us who are immigrants to this nation or who have worked extensively in developing countries and in foreign service understand very clearly that when a formal delegation from a western country visits, they see the ruling class and visit project funded by their home countries. This often fake presentation to dignitaries with the typical "face-lift" done in preparation of the event has nothing to do with the lives ordinary people and the challenges they face in their villages.

    Among the democratic candidates, there are some like Dodd, Obama, Richardson who have lived among ordinary people abroad and have more experience than the Establishment Candidate Hillary

    Posted by globalcitizenlinda December 29, 07 12:16 PM
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  1. I'm surprised at no mention of Obama's reprehensible attack on Hillary Clinton shortly after Benazir Bhutto's death. An editorial in today's Washington Post calls a foul on Obama for his inappropriate remarks.

    For a quick read, go here:

    http://katalusis.blogspot.com/2007/12/washington-post-calls-foul-on-obama.html

    For the original editorial, go here:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/28/AR2007122802445.html

    Posted by vb December 29, 07 01:00 PM
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  1. I get irritated when Clinton says she has 35years of experience. Which kind of experience? Is it of the ordinary life of every American or is it of the elite, who she has been involved with those 35yrs. I will be very surprised to see if Americans will elect Hillary on basis of this argument. How can a wife of a president run with the resume of his husband? Very absurd! Even if she gave her opinion to issues, that is not equal to running the country to the level of claiming that you will be ready to go on day one. America, America be wise in your voting!

    Posted by wazolangu December 29, 07 02:49 PM
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  1. I get irritated when Clinton says she has 35years of experience. Which kind of experience? Is it of the ordinary life of every American or is it of the elite, who she has been involved with those 35yrs. I will be very surprised to see if Americans will elect Hillary on basis of this argument. How can a wife of a president run with the resume of his husband? Very absurd! Even if she gave her opinion to issues, that is not equal to running the country to the level of claiming that you will be ready to go on day one. America, America be wise in your voting!

    Posted by wazolangu December 29, 07 02:52 PM
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  1. I’m someone from the UK who has always admired Hillary’s role as 1st lady & am shocked at how America undervalues her national & international contribution as 1st lady. I recently found an article from a Pakistan newspaper called the Dawn Service Wire newspaper, written in March 1995 that gives an account of Hillary’s visit to Pakistan as 1st lady. As a primary source from an international perspective, it gave insight & credibility into the unique role that Hillary played as 1st lady in building bridges between the US & foreign countries by tackling universal social issues that she was passionate about being: women’s and children’s right’s. I feel that Americans should read it:

    Later at the luncheon, welcoming US guest, prime minister
    Bhutto said: "Your glow and your presence warms us today and, on behalf of 130 million Pakistanis, it is my honour to welcome you into our homes and into our hearts. The name of Hillary Rodham Clinton has earned a special place of honour in our history. Mrs Clinton is the symbol of all women everywhere, both in the East and the West, that women - yes, they can, they can run corporations and run households, they can be great lawyers and still be great mothers."
    Paying the highest tribute to Ms Clinton. Ms Bhutto said for over two years she and the people of Pakistan have been utterly fascinated by the US first lady's 'heroic efforts' to redefine the role of women in her country and to provide care and sensitive leadership to social issues.
    Quoting former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher, Ms Bhutto: "If a woman is tough she is strident, but if a man is tough he is a great leader'. You are both tough and a great leader, a great leader for the cause of health care, for cause of children, for investing in the future and model for the girls."
    Ms Clinton, in response to Ms Bhutto's speech, said she was especially pleased to be here to reaffirm the partnership and friendship between Pakistan and the United States. "There's much more in keeping us (women) in common than keeping us separate. I find (that) so much keeps us in common as we move together to find our lives and it is a great privilege for me to be here with all of you."
    Praising Ms Bhutto's emphasis on children, that every child will be given an opportunity to live up to his or her potential, she said, "the work you are doing from extension of primary schooling, to the eradication of polio is being looked at with great interest and admiration."
    "On behalf of the women of our country, it is a great privilege to be here and see opportunities. I wish my visit was longer, but I feel those of us in this room, particularly as women, have been blessed with a full range of opportunities and now we are here to listen and learn from what the prime minister of this country can do for the women."
    Expressing her delight to have met the 50 leading professional Pakistani women, she said: "I am happy to meet some of the women who are breaking new grounds and giving a new meaning to the opportunity."
    Ms Bhutto, earlier in her welcome address, said: "On behalf of my spouse, I also welcome you. The First Lady does not know it, but according to our newspapers in Pakistan, Asif Zardari is the 'de facto prime minister' and he (Asif) said only the First Lady can appreciate that this is not true."
    Fully reciprocating Ms Bhutto's sentiments, Ms Clinton said: "As a political spouse I feel a great deal of identity with your husband."
    Later in the evening, Ms Clinton hosted a reception at the American Embassy.

    Posted by Varma December 29, 07 10:10 PM
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  1. I can't think of anything Madeline Albright did other than Kosovo. No wonder she took Hillary with her to Bosnia. For Hillary to say that having plane trouble in Bosnia and that nobody offered her tea while she landed there, does not give her the credentials to claim experience. What policies did she help create? Now that Madeline Albright is supporting her (because of gender), probably Hillary will use some of the things Albright did as if Hillary did it. This is the theme with Hillarys campaign all along. We never heard of Hillary dealing with foreign dignitaries while she was first lady. If she did it should be in some or other article which you can google. I tried googling for her foreign experience and policies and I don't find anything to her credit.

    Posted by John Slockum December 31, 07 01:25 PM
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