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Clinton doubts new Iowa poll

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor January 1, 2008 11:36 AM

The Hillary Clinton campaign is questioning the validity of the new Des Moines Register poll that shows Democratic rival Barack Obama widening his lead just days before the crucial caucuses.

In the Register's final Iowa Poll before Thursday's contest, Obama led with 32 percent, while Clinton stayed at 25 percent and John Edwards stood at 24 percent. Obama rose from 28 percent in late November and had the largest lead of any Democrat all year, thanks to support from likely first-time caucus-goers, including large numbers of independents.

And that's the rub.

The Clinton camp argues that the Register's model of who will turn out for the caucuses is different than in 2004 by including far more independents. If the same model was used in 2004, Clinton would be in the lead. Other recent polls show a virtual dead heat among the three Democrats.

"The Des Moines Register poll adopts an unprecedented new turnout model for the caucuses, and its new poll is out of sync with the other polling done in the race," Mark Penn, Clinton's chief strategist, said in a memo posted on a campaign website late Monday.

"So we do not see this poll as accurately reflecting the trends we are seeing in other polls, on our nightly canvasses or in our own polls, and voters should understand this is a very close race, and that their participation on caucus night could make all of the difference."

The Register poll was conducted Thursday through Sunday and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

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  1. Democratic Presidential Nomination
    RCP Average
    Clinton44.4% Obama25.0% Edwards13.4% Biden3.0%Richardson2.2

    Clinton +19.4% MOST ELECTABLE NATIONALLY UNCHANGED

    Posted by Clinton +19.4% MOST ELECTABLE NATIONALLY UNCHANGED January 1, 08 11:57 AM
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  1. A few weeks ago Hillary was "ineviatble." The momentum is clearly in Obama's direction

    Posted by Monica January 1, 08 12:02 PM
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  1. Obama more flip flopping and lies! His voting record shows that he supports the war, voted twice in 2006 against bringing America's troops back home. He votes for war appropriations as if giving our money to Halliburton and Blackwater is his sworn duty. His latest bit of posturing S 433 allows the Bush Administration to suspend any troop withdrawal, which if not suspended, still keeps the troops in Iraq for a long time to come. The suspension is written right into Section 4 (b). The bill tells Bush to bring the troops home some day unless he doesn't want to. The very name of the bill, "Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007" is a lie. This is par for the course for Obama. Bruce Dixon and Glen Ford of the Black Agenda Report have written articles exposing Obama's fraud in pretending to represent the interests of African-American voters. Before anyone believes that Obama cares about African-Americans, they should read, "Barack Obama and the Winds of War," "Putting Black Faces on Imperial Aggression," "Barack Obama: the Mania and the Mirage," "Barack Obama: Hypocrisy on Health Care," "The Barack and Hillary Show Plays Selma," "Black America's Real Issue With Barack Obama," and "Barack Obama vs. Charles Hamilton Houston." From these articles and others, readers can see Obama come down on the side of the oppressors of African-Americans. For someone whose ancestors owned black slaves, Obama tries to put pressure on African-Americans and fails. Al Sharpton's reaction to pressure to back Obama was, "I'm not going to be cajoled or intimidated by any candidate not for my support." Instead of supporting African American's Obama is into lying to them and intimidating them. What makes him different than others who oppress African-Americans? Paul Street exposes the real Barack Obama very clearly in his article, "The Obama Illusion." Street shows how Obama, a Hamiltonian believer in free trade and supporters of globalization has lent his support to the "...Hamilton Project, formed by corporate-neoliberal Citigroup chair Robert Rubin and other 'Wall Street Democrats' to counter populist rebellion against corporate tendencies within the Democratic Party... ," how Obama provided valuable assistance to pro-war candidates (such as Joe Lieberman), and how he criticized the filibuster proceedings against Samuel Alito. Street shows how Obama voted for "... a business-friendly 'tort reform' bill that rolls back working peoples' ability to obtain reasonable redress and compensation..." from corporations. Obama considers single payer universal health care too socialist and has stated that he prefers voluntary solutions. Street's article goes on to discuss Obama's support for other aspects of the neo-con agenda, including neo-con propaganda against African-American culture.

    Obama voted to bring low-cost foreign labor into New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. This was a slap in the face against the African-Americans who were displaced in that city. Obama also voted to place Michael Cheftoff, the man responsible for the Katrina catastrophe, in charge of Homeland Security. Obama voted for the bills that gave Blackwater the funding they needed to shoot the people of New Orleans who were only trying to save their own lives. He voted to allow Michael Chetoff to waive all laws, including murder, torture and kidnapping.

    In voting for the Real ID Act, Obama voted to end political asylum for people seeking shelter in this country because of terrorism at home.

    African-Americans consider Dennis Kucinich, not Obama, to be their candidate. See Bruce Dixon's article "Is Dennis Kucinich the "black candidate?"

    Obama voted more than five times for USA-PATRIOT's renewal. This is a bill that is patently offensive to most Americans. City after city has passed resolutions condemning USA-PATRIOT. Obama chose to side with tyranny over freedom and Bush over the people on this issue. The Real ID Act, which would allow Michael Cheftoff to declare martial law and imprison all Americans, was supported by Obama, as noted above.

    Obama's record on choice is less than 50%. He pretends to be pro-choice while voting for anti-choice justices who have vowed to end choice. Obama even voted for cloture on Priscilla Owen, a justice Alberto Gonzales felt was too far to the right.

    Posted by OBAMA PRO WAR January 1, 08 12:04 PM
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  1. Although the war was a terrible idea, you have to look forward. The only moral way out of Iraq is to extract all of our troops in a way that will kill as few Iraqis as is feasible. That probably is not an immediate withdrawal.

    The point is that Obama was against the war in 2002, when it actually mattered and nobody else was. He is the only candidate that actually has a chance (sorry not Kucinich) that can claim that.

    Posted by Your comment is longer than the article January 1, 08 12:23 PM
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  1. Although the war was a terrible idea, you have to look forward. The only moral way out of Iraq is to extract all of our troops in a way that will kill as few Iraqis as is feasible. That probably is not an immediate withdrawal.

    The point is that Obama was against the war in 2002, when it actually mattered and nobody else was. He is the only candidate that actually has a chance (sorry not Kucinich) that can claim that.

    Posted by Your comment is longer than the article January 1, 08 12:25 PM
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  1. I'm voting for Obama.

    Posted by Nikki January 1, 08 12:37 PM
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  1. Hilary Clinton's campaign has been promoting that her nomination is inevitable. It is a poor decision, because it is a wrong reason for supporting a candidate.

    Hilary Clinton's campaign is promoting that experience is a good reason to support a candidate. If experience would help a person to be a better president, one would expect second term presidents should be generally doing a better job than during their first terms. There is no such correlation.

    Their track records and what the candidates propose to do are relevant subjects.

    Posted by L K Lam in California January 1, 08 12:39 PM
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  1. Funny that Clinton questions the major poll from a paper that ENDORSED her. Obama 08'!!!!

    Posted by RhodyRam January 1, 08 12:45 PM
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  1. (That's right - Obama was against the WAR when it mattered ! With foresight ... not in hindsight.)

    I'm voting for Barack Obama.

    Go Barry !

    Barack Obama for President of the United States of America.

    It's time for America to Rise and Shine again.

    Posted by PulSamsara January 1, 08 12:49 PM
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  1. And a new poll of NH voters just released today shows Hillary increasing her lead over Obama from their poll last month.

    You go girl - right to the White House!

    Posted by craste January 1, 08 01:10 PM
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  1. Hillary if the poles are not in your favor, you condem them. Because of your and bill's past crimes you need to be in the big house, not the white house.

    Posted by Roger January 1, 08 01:12 PM
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  1. Oboma and Clinton are unfit to be president. They want more wars. And no real solutions. Their solution for health care is terrible. Mike Gravel has a much better plan. Just cause the polls says one candidate is ahead is no reason to vote for someone. Please vote your conscious. Vote on the people who are truthful. Learn about ALL the candidates. Seriously consider supporting Mike Gravel. His National Initiative for Democracy is the one thing to change our nation from a corrupt representative government into more of a democracy

    Posted by Dave January 1, 08 01:15 PM
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  1. Thank God for GW Bush. The 2000 election in Florida put the right person in the right place at the right time. 911 happened and President Bush took charge. He did what was needed. He did not sway because of the horrendous personal attacks from the Democrats. He will be recognized as a great President if the Iraq war continues to be successful.

    Posted by john addar January 1, 08 01:25 PM
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  1. Not voting for anyone right now, they all suck. I will vote for the last democrat standing.

    Posted by Thom January 1, 08 01:43 PM
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  1. Hillary is a LOSER@!

    Posted by Jim January 1, 08 01:51 PM
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  1. America is a Democracy - Not a Monarchy.

    No more failed Presidents elected on the back of Nepotism .

    Posted by PulSamsara January 1, 08 01:56 PM
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  1. That's the problem...."911 happened and President Bush took charge." 9/11 did NOT have to happen. Bush was negligent in spite of numerous warnings including the now famous August 6 intelligence briefing at Crawford, maybe even criminally negligent. He, Cheney and Rove (and now Giuliani) with the assistance of Roger Ailes and Fox News and right-wing talk radio politically exploited 9/11 and soon it went from a national call to arms to just another American product that could be bought and sold. If you watched Fox News or listened to right wing talk radio exclusively you NEVER heard about the outpouring of global sympathy, or saw Parisian or Germans marching to show their support. You NEVER heard about the invitation from French fire brigades to their NYC counterparts to visit them to show solidarity, you NEVER heard about the NATO AWAC planes that spent six months literally orbiting over U.S. skies to guard against further attacks....instead you heard only about how everyone hated us or was jealous of us...Ailes and company, our later day Wizards of Oz, created the fear which they continue to try to whip up even to this day. They cleverly set the table for Iraq at that moment....thank God an overwhelming majority of Americans now see through this ruse and are about to make a profund change of political direction....so if you are hedge fund manager, a defense contractor, an ex-CEO with a golden parachute, a right-wing Republican or talk show host, it's now your turn to be afraid.....be very afraid.

    Posted by Joe January 1, 08 02:06 PM
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  1. Obama delivers a message of hope in America that I haven't seen since JFK. I remember when this country landed on the moon, faced down the Soviet Union, looked ahead to greater achievements, and held its head up high. Everyone loved and/or respected us. The war in was a terrible decision that had nothing to do with 9-11, except that the events of that day finally gave the neo-cons an excuse to attack Iraq. I stood and marched against it then. Now, as ugly as it is, we have to extricate ourselves carefully. Faster than any Republican candidate would like, but slower than many Democratic voters will want. When it comes down to it, we need someone as President who can make that choice intelligently, but also with what I call "emotional intelligence". It's more than a simple calculation of lives lost; it has to do with giving the right message to the world: "The US is back. You can respect us again, because we stand for what's right and good and fair." Our strength relies on electing someone who understands that we need the world, because we need to be the beacon that the world follows - not because they're forced to, but because they want to.

    Posted by An American who wants to be proud again January 1, 08 02:07 PM
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  1. That's the problem...."911 happened and President Bush took charge." 9/11 did NOT have to happen. Bush was negligent in spite of numerous warnings including the now famous August 6 intelligence briefing at Crawford, maybe even criminally negligent. He, Cheney and Rove (and now Giuliani) with the assistance of Roger Ailes and Fox News and right-wing talk radio politically exploited 9/11 and soon it went from a national call to arms to just another American product that could be bought and sold. If you watched Fox News or listened to right wing talk radio exclusively you NEVER heard about the outpouring of global sympathy, or saw Parisian or Germans marching to show their support. You NEVER heard about the invitation from French fire brigades to their NYC counterparts to visit them to show solidarity, you NEVER heard about the NATO AWAC planes that spent six months literally orbiting over U.S. skies to guard against further attacks....instead you heard only about how everyone hated us or was jealous of us...Ailes and company, our later day Wizards of Oz, created the fear which they continue to try to whip up even to this day. They cleverly set the table for Iraq at that moment....thank God an overwhelming majority of Americans now see through this ruse and are about to make a profund change of political direction....so if you are hedge fund manager, a defense contractor, an ex-CEO with a golden parachute, a right-wing Republican or talk show host, it's now your turn to be afraid.....be very afraid.

    Posted by Joe January 1, 08 02:09 PM
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  1. Acutally PulSamsara, America is a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy. Please research the one candidate who recognizes this as well as our civil liberties: Ron Paul.


    "Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. In a Constitutional Republic, the sheep has a gun." -Benjamin Franklin

    Posted by Mike January 1, 08 02:11 PM
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  1. GoooooooooooooooBaaaaaaaaaaama!
    ObamaO8!

    Posted by Joan January 1, 08 02:15 PM
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  1. You people are stupid if you believe Barack Obama was against the war from the beginnning. It shows how uninformed and uneducated his voting bloc really is. He clearly stated in a New York Times article that he didn't KNOW how he would have voted on the Iraq war AND HE WASN'T A UNITED STATES SENATOR at the time to even vote on it! He has a piggy backed on Hillary from day one and he knows it. The two votes he differs with her on are A) The Iraq war which he WAS NOT A SENATOR AT THE TIME TO VOTE ON(Get that through your heads) and B) Labeling the Iranian Guard a Terrorist Organization (In this case he didn't differ from her, rather he slacked on the job and didn't show up for the vote, yet proceeded to chastize Hillary saying it was one of the most dangerous votes she could have casted. . .if this was the case isn't it a good idea to show up to vote in opposition of the measure?!?! Good job smart one. HILLARY CLINTON IN '08! ! !
    You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet! ! !

    Posted by Sean January 1, 08 02:48 PM
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  1. At least Iowa doesn't publicly fund this partisan bullcrap. Eliminate the State funded partisan primaries and caucuses and then lets get ourselves some non-partisan primaries that lets the third of America that is not aligned with either party be represented too. It would just take a few states to get started and the rest would be shamed into following. Have people select the top ten in an approval voting model and those are your candidates that are printed on the ballot for the national election. If the candidates then want to withdraw themselves and support another candidate, then let them do so. And let the parties endorse whomever they want.

    Posted by Pat January 1, 08 02:50 PM
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  1. Hillary's meddling, premature remarks on Pakistani elections has not yet hit the presses, due to the media's renewed cover up of her goof up's. Pakistan has already hit back at her and who knows about it? In another interview with her old friend George Stephanafalous, Hillary is revealed to be astoundingly ignorant of Pakistan's elections thinking that Marshareef is running! Amazing ignorance for the smartest woman in the world who is steam rolling voters with rhetoric over substance.

    Recall that the substance is locked tightly and permanently away from the voters in the Clinton library....until the facts can be scrubbed, destroyed, or perfected to say what she wants them to say. But what desperate Hillary supporter cares about that??

    Posted by Rita January 1, 08 02:54 PM
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  1. Isn't Obama a negro?

    Posted by Lester Maddox January 1, 08 03:25 PM
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  1. John Edwards is the only true liberal in the field with a vision for the country that is designed in a corporate board room.

    Posted by Steve January 1, 08 03:30 PM
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  1. SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON IS GOING TO MAKE A GREAT PRESIDENT.

    Posted by JOHN January 1, 08 03:35 PM
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  1. Sean,

    You are a liar, pure and simple. Do you work for the Hillary campaign? If so, you are doing her a disservice by deliberately spreading blatantly false information. Fellow New Hampshire primary voters, Sean is the kind of person employed by Hillary campaign. Do you want to vote for a person who employs a Karl Rove junior like Sean? Think about it when you step into the polling booth on January 8.

    Obama was against the Iraq War as early as 2002 when he was running as a state senator. He was against it at a time when it was all but political suicide to make such a declaration. Hillary, meanwhile, was blatantly kissing the posterior of George W Bush. To this date she will not admit she was wrong. Obama decided to take the right stance while Hillary chose the popular stance. Here is a link to his famous October 2002 speech against the war: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama's_Iraq_Speech

    Read this speech and tell me that Obama was undecided about the war.

    Posted by Steve January 1, 08 03:43 PM
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  1. Sean,

    You are a liar, pure and simple. Do you work for the Hillary campaign? If so, you are doing her a disservice by deliberately spreading blatantly false information. Fellow New Hampshire primary voters, Sean is the kind of person employed by Hillary campaign. Do you want to vote for a person who employs a Karl Rove junior like Sean? Think about it when you step into the polling booth on January 8.

    Obama was against the Iraq War as early as 2002 when he was running as a state senator. He was against it at a time when it was all but political suicide to make such a declaration. Hillary, meanwhile, was blatantly kissing the posterior of George W Bush. To this date she will not admit she was wrong. Obama decided to take the right stance while Hillary chose the popular stance. Here is a link to his famous October 2002 speech against the war: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama's_Iraq_Speech

    Read this speech and tell me that Obama was undecided about the war.

    Posted by Steve January 1, 08 03:44 PM
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  1. Hillary is a Socialist pig . . .those who vote for her are truly insane

    Posted by hillarysux January 1, 08 04:22 PM
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  1. HILLARY CLINTON CAN BE A GREAT PRESIDENT OF UNITED STATES
    BECAUSE SHE HAS A GOOD FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE. AND NO BODY KNOWS IN THE WORLD WHOES OBAMA IS? PEOPLE OF IOWA SHOULD THINK BEFORE THEY CHOSE CADIDATE FOR NOMINATION.

    Posted by KAN January 1, 08 04:29 PM
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  1. Don't believe that Obama is that far ahead!! I don;'t even know how he is even one of the top contenders!! He is so naive and inexperienced and has nothing to say except he going "to change the world"!!! Just like thinking happy thoughts and holding hands is going to make the world a happy and peaceful place!!!

    I can understand WHY people would like to believe this but reality is reality and the world doesn't work that way! Hillary is the ONLY candidate who is the most qualified, experienced and intelligent and who has the wisdom and strength to lead this country forward!!!

    VOTE FOR HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT - 2008!!!

    Posted by AlwaysforHillary January 1, 08 04:40 PM
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  1. I have faith in the system. I have faith in the good people of Iowa. Iowans will hand Hillary her walking papers, mark my words. There are too few Iowans with mental defects severe enough to warrant a vote for Hillary. Iowa, is not California. The best she can do, is pack up and go home - claim her presidential run was ill advised, which it was: http://theseedsof9-11.com

    Posted by Peggy McGilligan January 1, 08 04:42 PM
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  1. its ok Steve spew any insults about me you want with your uninformed views of me. That seems to be the trend of most people who support Obama, they are uninformed and come to conclusions without backing them up with facts.

    "In a recent interview, [Obama] declined to criticize Senators Kerry and Edwards for voting to authorize the war, although he said he would not have done the same based on the information he had at the time. �But, I'm not privy to Senate intelligence reports,' Mr. Obama said. WHAT WOULD I HAVE DONE? I DON'T KNOW.' (New York Times, 26 July, 2004)

    is that enough truth for you Steve?

    Steve why don’t you come clean about being a liar? Trying to frame Hillary as hiding her Iraq War vote. When, in truth, she has on many occasions stated that she is not going to apologize because she DID vote for the war, and she’d rather take responsibility for a vote she cast rather than cater to the base and say “oh I’m sorry! Forgive me” for a vote on election day. I am not looking for a President who makes all the right decisions, I’m looking for one who takes responsibility for their choices and whom has ACTUALLY DONE THEIR JOB AS SENATOR BY SHOWING UP FOR VOTES THAT MATTER!

    Also Steve, for your information I am a college student who is not employed by the campaign, but continue to use that tactic which is reflective of all the lies of YOU and others employed by the Obama campaign.

    Posted by Sean January 1, 08 05:23 PM
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  1. John Edwards gets my vote!

    Obama scares me to death! I wish the ill-informed people of this country were not allowed to vote. Obama is all talk, I don't think he can walk the walk. Prophecy states that one day the world will be controlled by Muslims, why would we put Obama (a former muslim by choice) in charge of our country??? This notion is frightening.
    Hillary is in bed with the insurance companies, accepting millions of dollars of special interest money. She promises universal health care for all americans, including all of the illegals who pay no taxes in our country. What she doesn't tell us is that for those who decline to accept health care insurance, will be fined when they show up at an emergency room without insurance. Who stands to gain from "required health care"? The insurance companies giving Hillary all of her monies. Remember the days when auto insurance was optional, once it became government mandated, the costs skyrocketed. I want the same health care plan our congressmen and senators get, wouldn't that be nice. I'd also like to be able to vote on my own raise at work when I needed one.
    John Edwards is the only candidate not running on special interest money and look where he stands in the polls. This country is full of good intentioned people, but they are just uninformed or just don't care to really understand politics. so they make rash decisions.
    We the people need to stand up to our government and do away with lobbying. It should be banned. You have to be wealthy to even run for a political position now days in our country, what is wrong with this picture people??? My girlfriend ran for Secretary of Agriculture in our state and had to put up $80,000 just to throw her hat in the ring. That is wrong and not how our forefathers intended the political process to be.
    Educate yourselves people and then vote the right person in for President, Edwards 2008!

    Posted by nicole January 1, 08 05:49 PM
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  1. John Edwards gets my vote!

    Obama scares me to death! I wish the ill-informed people of this country were not allowed to vote. Obama is all talk, I don't think he can walk the walk. Prophecy states that one day the world will be controlled by Muslims, why would we put Obama (a former muslim by choice) in charge of our country??? This notion is frightening.
    Hillary is in bed with the insurance companies, accepting millions of dollars of special interest money. She promises universal health care for all americans, including all of the illegals who pay no taxes in our country. What she doesn't tell us is that for those who decline to accept health care insurance, will be fined when they show up at an emergency room without insurance. Who stands to gain from "required health care"? The insurance companies giving Hillary all of her monies. Remember the days when auto insurance was optional, once it became government mandated, the costs skyrocketed. I want the same health care plan our congressmen and senators get, wouldn't that be nice. I'd also like to be able to vote on my own raise at work when I needed one.
    John Edwards is the only candidate not running on special interest money and look where he stands in the polls. This country is full of good intentioned people, but they are just uninformed or just don't care to really understand politics. so they make rash decisions.
    We the people need to stand up to our government and do away with lobbying. It should be banned. You have to be wealthy to even run for a political position now days in our country, what is wrong with this picture people??? My girlfriend ran for Secretary of Agriculture in our state and had to put up $80,000 just to throw her hat in the ring. That is wrong and not how our forefathers intended the political process to be.
    Educate yourselves people and then vote the right person in for President, Edwards 2008!

    Posted by nicole January 1, 08 05:51 PM
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  1. I'm going to vote for the candidate that answers the real question that matters - who are they going to bring with them into the white house to advise them and help them make their decisions? we all know, or at least we all ought to know by know, that a president relies on a team of people. i forget which one said it, but it was a good idea - he said that all candidates should announce their cabinet before being elected and let the voters actually know the team they are voting into office. that is really where policy is made. i am not going to say who i'm voting for just yet, but i will vote and i hope that everyone else that reads this comment will actually get out and vote in this election and in all other elections for that matter.

    Posted by Rob January 1, 08 06:01 PM
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  1. The Clinton's KILLED 4137 US SOLDIERS in their last 8 years. That was peace time folks. Their dedication to perpetual embarrassment and short changing our troops is not acceptable. There are two far better qualified choices. Vote smart, for all our sakes.

    Posted by Jim M. January 1, 08 08:29 PM
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  1. I am voting for Montgomery Brewster.

    Posted by Brian January 1, 08 08:51 PM
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  1. This gal from NH is voting for John Edwards and hopefully when you have your privilege to vote, you will too. Pull up each candidate on www.wmur.com and click on Politics on the left....then scroll down and COMPARE THE CANDIDATES. You look at how each addresses the same issues as the others and find that candidate who will put the United States of America back on the map of having respect from the rest of the world. You know how you feel about the war, stem cell research, gun control, and SOCIAL SECURITY....make sure YOUR candidate of choice believes as you do. That is all I ask.....know who you are voting for or suffer the consequences for another four years. I would not suggest to tell you or anyone who to vote for, but I want you to know the difference between your choices.

    Posted by Jude January 2, 08 12:35 AM
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  1. I am an admirer of presidents like Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, FDR and JFK. America needs a president of their caliber in a dangerous world today. America does not need one who brings nothing but his woolly idea of hope which is not defined in concrete terms. It is not a crime to hope but it is criminal for a presidential candidate to peddle hope as though by itself it can be a sound basis for national governance. A presidential candidate should have a vision of America and tested experience as well as an intellect that can be well defined as brilliant. HILLARY CLINTON has all that and anyone who does not vote for her in the caucus, primary and election must have a hole in the head.

    Posted by Homobono A. Adaza January 2, 08 02:08 AM
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  1. Iowans just might courageously reject machine politics and help nominate the heroic Obama. This is exciting!!!

    Posted by JW January 2, 08 07:33 AM
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  1. Sean dude, you seriously sound like a Billary campaign wonk. I agree with the other wroters.

    Personally, I want a slam-dunk Democratic Presidency in the November election. 45% of the electorate already hates Hillary. A GOP candidate will only need to sway 5-10% of the center to get elected if Hillary is the democratic candidate. She may be "inevitable" but the inevitability will be a GOP voctory and another 8 years of facism under a Republican ditto-head.

    My plea has been "Anyone but Hillary". I don't care if people get behind Obama, Edwards, Richardson, or Biden. All are electable and highly favorable with most people. My fear is we dems nominate Hillary and she ends up losing because so many hate her insincerity and triangulation.

    Sean, if you want to help Hillary, tell her to stop tap-dancing on every issue and show some leadership to do the hard things and admit mistakes (like the war). Leadership and integrity are what we need, not more pre-packaged political pap.

    Posted by Chris McCoy January 2, 08 01:18 PM
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  1. Nicole, Obama is a Christian. Has been for decades.

    Stop fear mongering. If you really think Muslims are going to take over America, vote Republican. There are only a few Muslims here, but millions of neo-evangelists talk down to Americans every day preaching hatred and ignorance. Apparently you listen to it and take it as fact.

    Turth is, you should be more worried about the rights the Bush administration and congress took away from you with Patriot 1 & 2. You should be more concerened that FISA laws are being broken daily and every American phone conversation is being shared with the fead. All of this is being done in the name of fear of the Muslim bogeyman.

    The real bogeymen are those who put themselves above the law and trample your civil rights. They have damaged this nation far more than bin Laden ever did. Millions of Americans died to protect our constitution before 9/11. We have given back much of what they died for because of 2700 at the WTC. Perhaps you should be more concerned with Republicans and less with Muslims.

    Posted by Chris McCoy January 2, 08 02:04 PM
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  1. Obama 38
    Edwards 30
    Clinton 29

    It's time to Rise and Shine again America.

    Posted by PulSamsara January 4, 08 04:01 AM
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  1. I am for Edwards because he is not accepting corporate money. My second optio is Obama. Hillary, I got disappointed with her in regards to war.

    Posted by Linda Parker January 7, 08 06:29 PM
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