Nevada GOP dismisses Paul complaint
By Michael Levenson, Globe Staff
LAS VEGAS -- Ron Paul, other than Mitt Romney the only Republican actively campaigning for Saturday's Republican caucuses in Nevada, called this afternoon for the state party to consider postponing the contest due to "multiple inconsistencies."
But the state Republican Party immediately dismissed the allegations and said the caucus would go on as planned.
"We would hope that the Paul campaign would go act like adults and not try to set up straw men to make up for their lack of organizing," said Steve Wark, a caucus spokesman.
The Paul campaign complained that voters have received postcards with incorrect caucus locations, that eligibility requirements to participate have been changed several times, and that several rural counties could run out of ballots.
"The inconsistencies, errors and multiple changes in the rules reek of playing politics with the what should be a neutral process," said campaign manager Lew Moore said in a statement. "The people of Nevada deserve to know exactly what the rules are and to know that those rules are being fairly enforced. This has not happened up to this point, and the caucus appears to be in chaos."
A Las Vegas Review-Journal survey published today showed Romney leading with 34 percent and Paul in fifth with 7 percent. John McCain had 19 percent, Mike Huckabee 13 percent, Fred Thompson 8 percent, and Rudy Giuliani 6 percent.
The Republican establishment if fighting Ron Paul with every weapon they can muster. Giving out false information is inexcusable -- and clearly designed to take advantage of the fact that Paul's many supporters are political neophytes, not accustomed to the lying, cheating, and backstabbing that takes place.
For a great satire on the president, the mainstream media, and the war on terror, see this YouTube music video from the international award-winning zombie musical feature film, “Song of the Dead.” It’ stars horror movie veteran Reggie Bannister (Phantasm, Wishmaster, Bubba Ho-tep) as the president of the U.S. The filmmaker, Chip Gubera, is giving a share of his profits from DVD sales to the Ron Paul campaign. Go to:
youtube.com/watch?v=qQmkkoxSKYw
The Republican establishment if fighting Ron Paul with every weapon they can muster. Giving out false information is inexcusable -- and clearly designed to take advantage of the fact that Paul's many supporters are political neophytes, not accustomed to the lying, cheating, and backstabbing that takes place.
For a great satire on the president, the mainstream media, and the war on terror, see this YouTube music video from the international award-winning zombie musical feature film, “Song of the Dead.” It’ stars horror movie veteran Reggie Bannister (Phantasm, Wishmaster, Bubba Ho-tep) as the president of the U.S. The filmmaker, Chip Gubera, is giving a share of his profits from DVD sales to the Ron Paul campaign. Go to:
youtube.com/watch?v=qQmkkoxSKYw
The problem of multiple rule changes is being compounded by other inconsistencies and errors in the process. Many Nevada Republicans have received postcards with incorrect information about their caucus location, and the Nevada GOP website had incorrect caucus locations listed as late as Wednesday, January 16.
Additionally, one or more county chairs have expressed concerns over an insufficient number of ballots, and the Ron Paul campaign has heard reports that rural counties are short of ballots, while Clark County precincts were given what is regarded as far too many ballots.
The Ron Paul campaign has learned that the Nevada Republican Party has changed the rules for eligibility requirements for caucusing three times since January 9. Last summer when the January 19 caucus was set, the Nevada GOP announced that caucus would be closed and only for Republicans who had registered by December 19.
On January 10, 2008, a caucus director for the Nevada Republican Party reversed the earlier policy and anounced a new standard by stating that any person who asserts that they are a registered Republican in the precinct but cannot be found in the voter rolls that the Republican party has, would be able to participate if they signed an affidavit attesting to the fact that they were a registered Republican. Then, on January 15 the Ron Paul campaign received communication from the state party that the affidavits would not be used.
However, on January 17 the policy was changed for a third time, as the state party announced that affidavits would be in use throughout the state, subject to the discretion of county central committees and chairs.
The Nevada Republican Party is changing the rules from week to week, and currently the rules will not even be uniform across the state, as eligibility rules may differ from county to county.
Given the caucus location confusion – with potential caucus participants not knowing where to go – and the new rule effectively allowing anyone to get a ballot, the Ron Paul campaign is concerned that the confusion surrounding the caucus will both disenfranchise voters and make the election particularly susceptible to vote fraud.
Ha Ha, I wonder who will be laughing when Paul places well in Nevada tomorrow. Paul just wants a fair election, obviously the Nevada GOP isn't too concerned with fairness, although they will probably be making up stories tomorrow when Paul does well.
When will this party and the rest of the Nation understand Alan Keyes?
The sooner you all do, the greater this Nation has a chance to survive to the next century.
Rich Southard
Adults huh! Let's see they mail out information with wrong locations? Classic. As a Republican and very upset at my party I will take it out on them in all state and Congressional races come November. Heck, voting for Ron Paul just maybe my last vote as a Republican after all! Time to find an adult party who truely believes in Limited Gov't.
Sounds like the GOP is real concerned with the integrity of the caucus...right.
It looks like they did not address any of the inconsistencies, but just ridiculed the Paul campaign.
Thanks for the report
If there are multiple inconsistencies in the voting process of Nevada, then those inconsistencies should be made right. Dr. Paul would not ask for things to be made right if there was nothing to be made right. We have an honest man here; let's treat him with respect. After all, Dr. Paul is a consistent man; he should know when things are not right even though others may not.
This is very sad, can we toss this entire primary/caucus system and start with something that makes sense? That sounds like something a business exec would do - Vote Romney!
"We would hope that the Paul campaign would go act like adults and not try to set up straw men to make up for their lack of organizing," said Steve Wark, a caucus spokesman."
That's the statement coming from what is supposed to be a neutral party? Looks like someone forgot to look at themselves in the mirror. Whose the cranky, whiny bitch? Act like adults? Yeah, acting like adults would mean not constantly moving the goal post and have a transparent system where everyone is clearly notified of all changes, like a responsible ADULT.
Looks like this one is already stacked against Paul, like NH, and Iowa. We shall see.
Don't come crying to us about conspiracy or unfairness, when next time your favorite candidate gets treated unfairly. Apparently, these idiots forgot that when you undermine your opponents in a system that's suppose to treat everyone equally, you're undermining yourself.
So who's the petulant, pathetic, child now?
After I cast my vote for Ron Paul in November (even as a write if necessary) I will never register as a Republican again. I will not be associated with crocked politics. The Republican party is full of vipers and I will not subject myself to being a part of their evil agenda.
Way to leave out the key point that the rules have been changed multiple times IN THE PAST WEEK and currently can be changed in each county AT THE TIME OF THE CAUCUS. How very childish for anyone to complain about that.
This campaign 2008 is the biggest joke I have ever seen. And this disorganization in Nevada is just another sign of it. Not only is the media only presenting facts on the front runners and their preferred candidates but there is proven prejudice against candidates like Ron Paul.
It is a sad, sad state this country has come to and this campaign is just making it more evident every day.
At least Ron Paul is honest, experienced, of the highest integrity and not owned by lobbiest,'s big business or the government. And it is because of the latter that he is not given a fair, just chance.
He is totally right, the Constitution of the USA is in need of immediate CPR and who will be the EMS team to revive it?
Not any of the front runners.
Wow. Nice response to a possible voter fraud case. "act like adults." And to insult the organization of the most organized grassroots effort ever seen in this country. You sir are a fuck head. Now go vote for a straw man.
Wow. Thats. wow. All I can say. GOP chair for washoe county says "the paul campaign has very organized supporters, i think people will be surprised."
caucus warns paul fto act like an adult and chides him for a lack of organization. maybe you all should confer before you make statements to the press.
This article is mostly about how the Republic Party of Nevada was unorganized. I wish the Nevada GOP would explain how Paul's campaign was unorganized.
That's a pretty strong reaction from caucus spokesman, Steve Wark. I guess "adults" should not question the inconsistencies and inaccuracies that have been the hallmark of this caucus setup in Nevada. I also like the criticism that the Paul campaign should make up for their "lack of organizing." I suppose sending postcards to voters with the wrong caucus locations passes for good organization.
Get em' Lew! Mr. Wark is way off base attacking the Ron Paul campaign for demanding the GOP do their job. It is about time the National campaign got fired up and started attacking this party politics crap! Corruption is rampant in our political system right now from the Federal to the State to the county levels. Wake up America! Lets take our damn country back!
Why are people so bent on not playing fair. This is suppose to be open to all people to get the most accurate vote. Why people like to dismiss the facts we'll never know. Ron Paul is the only real candidate in my opinion. He wants to get rid of government... Government is the problem people stop making this a popularity contest and look at the issues...
"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force! Like a fire, it is dangerous like a servant to the a fearful master." - George Washington
Why are people so bent on not playing fair. This is suppose to be open to all people to get the most accurate vote. Why people like to dismiss the facts we'll never know. Ron Paul is the only real candidate in my opinion. He wants to get rid of government... Government is the problem people stop making this a popularity contest and look at the issues...
"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force! Like a fire, it is dangerous like a servant to the a fearful master." - George Washington
Here's the contact information for your "source" on this article. What the hell is going on?
Contact:Steve Wark Partner 7381 W. Charleston Blvd., Suite 120 Las Vegas, NV 89117 702-562-1929, 702-562-1662 (fax) sjwark@aol.com Product Description: Direct Mail. We produce highly effective direct mail. We Pride ourselves in professional design that draws the eye to our presuasive succint copy and in turn is sent to a carefully targeted audiance. This insures that a powerful message is sent in an efficient manner.
This is the guy's job. Direct mail. Is he the GOP party spokesman for Nevada?
What's going on here?
I smell a fish.
Look - I'm sick and tired of this Ron Paul stuff. I think Ron Paul is by far the best man the GOP has but the Liberal, Left Wing "News" has destroyed him. Alas he won’t win - Thanks... Now can we move on and start destroying the rest of the Republican field already? How much of a democratic landslide does the media want anyway?
Careful what you wish for..
Look - I'm sick and tired of this Ron Paul stuff. I think Ron Paul is by far the best man the GOP has but the Liberal, Left Wing "News" has destroyed him. Alas he won’t win - Thanks... Now can we move on and start destroying the rest of the Republican field already? How much of a democratic landslide does the media want anyway?
Careful what you wish for..
Wow. Seriously? What a bunch of jerks.
Go Ron Paul! Show em anyways!
Vote Ron Paul 2008, The troops support Ron Paul more than any other republican candidate, in both donations and votes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qVmVJJaLkM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ArUoyuDd74&NR=1
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/channel-08/2008/01/new_spot_troops_support_ron_pa.html
I'm sorry...did someone just accuse Ron Paul's campaign of "lack of organizing"???? Dr. Paul's campaign has nothing BUT time to organize since they don't have to focus ANY resources on fund-raising and non-standard advertising due to the multitude of netizens more than willing to devote their time. You may recall an article released awhile back pointing out that Dr. Paul's campaign was the only one, at the time, that was savvy enough to utilize California's recently updated rules regarding delegates, forming a plan to garnish many more delegates than any other Republican focusing on that state. Not organized???
Also, I find the statement, "We would hope that the Paul campaign would go act like adults..." to be akin to screaming, "I'M NOT YELLING!!!" "go act like adults"? Who's the child here? This implication that a presidential candidate's campaign is acting childish when they're upset that voters were directed to the wrong caucus sites is anything but merited. Accusing someone for not having their sh** together when it's not their responsibility to inform tax-paying voters the correct location at which to caucus is completely and utterly misguided. The reasonability to inform the voters does not lie within individual campaign.
That being said, did the powers-that-be not see this caucus coming?!?!?!?! For god's sake, it's not like these elections are run randomly throughout the calendar year. What is it that took Nevada by surprise? Is Nevada watching the Joneses? One would naturally have to wonder....why change rules...why not have caucus locations in place...checked, double-checked and tripled-checked WAAAAY before caucus time? What is it that needs to change at the last moment that is causing all of this confusion and misinformation? What exactly is it that Nevada felt needed to be changed and why? Seriously...why? And why is it that when they are called on this, they lash out at one of the campaigns asking for answers?
Seriously....who's the group that doesn't have their sh** together?
It took less than 3 minutes to locate a money trail showing Steve Wark is clearly in Rudy Giuliani pocket. His comments show his lack of poise when under the pressure of hard facts as evidence of his ineptness. Mr. Wark is clearly someone who deserves and likely earns no respect from his piers, and rightly so. Perhaps it is Steve Wark who needs to "act like an adult".
Let me get this straight: the Nevada GOP is not doing their JOB in properly informing and directing the people of their state, and they have the gall to chastise those pointing it out? That's not a dismisal...it's lack of respect for those in charge: the people.
What on Earth is this country coming to?
Not surprising, considering that the CFR runs all the elections these days anyways.
I suggest those who wish to be informed "act like adults" and read the full story here:
http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/13891802.html
Not surprisingly, Steve Wark is a Nevada GOP point man for Giuliani. Sounds like the "straw man" is you, Mr. Wark.
That may explain the quote, but it still doesn't explain the misinformation and the rule changing.
Steve Wark should keep his mouth shut as he semmed to put his foot in it, with this remark : "We would hope that the Paul campaign would go act like adults and not try to set up straw men to make up for their lack of organizing," said Steve Wark, a caucus spokesman.
Okay, I can see a good side to this. Mainly the people REALLY paying attention to Ron Paul will KNOW where to go and vote. Many others may not.
Also when I read in the media, about Ron Paul's following I think of rowdy, rebelious rebel rouser's. I am a conservative, Christian, Wife, Mother (of 6), in my late 40's. My husband and I own and operate our own company and we earned greater than a 4 figure income last year and had 5 employees that our business helped support. I didn't realize how apathetic I had become until I heard Ron Paul's message. We could not operate our business like the Federal Government runs. We would go broke. That is what has been happening to our country. We need to wake up and live within our means. May God Bless Ron Paul and the USA.
Changing the rules of who can vote 3x in one week, great!
Great job, Nevada GOP!
Now who in their right mind would admit this was a mistake???
Of course they are going to dismiss a complaint,
they hate to be wrong.
"voters have received postcards with incorrect caucus locations, that eligibility requirements to participate have been changed several times, and that several rural counties could run out of ballots."
there is something seriously flawed with Mr. Steve Wark and his holier-than-thou logic. if ANY of the above is true, Mr. Wark and his fellow caucus organizers could be accused of interfering with the election process. he may be wise to take a lesson from Fox News. they have suffered the wrath of the voters for this very same tactic. see ya on MSNBC Mr. Wark.
The rest of the world, myself included, are wondering what the hell you American's are smoking? The election process and the media coverage is a shambles. Leaders of the free world? Is it time to call in the (shudder) U.N. to oversee a fair election? You guys are better than that. Start acting like it.
What an incredibly hypocritical statement for Wark to make, when the GOP created all this confusion with their attempts at manipulating this campaign....
STEVEN WARK » NV » Las Vegas Contributor Candidate or PAC Amount Date FEC Filing
WARK, STEVEN J MR.
LAS VEGAS , NV 89129
CAPITOL STRATEGIES/EXECUTIVE GIULIANI, RUDOLPH W. (R)
President
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primary 03/13/07
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LAS VEGAS , NV 89129
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President
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primary 03/13/07
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Las Vegas, NV 89128
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Las Vegas, NV 89104
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LAS VEGAS, NV 89104
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House (CA 03)
LUNGREN FOR CONGRESS $1,000
general 06/30/04
Wark, Steven J.
Las Vegas, NV 89104
Image & Design Inc./Owner
RICH POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $500
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LAS VEGAS, NV 89104
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LAS VEGAS, NV 89104
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If Paul was a Dem he would win hands down.
What nerve Steve Wark has.
Anybody who's been following this debacle knows the Nevada Republican GOP are to blame for this mess -- not the Paul campaign.
It's clear as day they're trying to skew the election by intentionally mailing out postcards with incorrect caucus locations to voters in both Clark County (where Las Vegas is) and Washoe (places that heavily favor Ron Paul) while simultaneously sending out correct postcards to areas that favor Mitt Romney.
Bastards.
Blatant manipulation of the campaign by the GOP elite. Wark is attempting to limit Paul's effectiveness in the campaign. His conflict of interest is no secret either:
STEVEN WARK » NV » Las Vegas Contributor Candidate or PAC Amount Date FEC Filing
WARK, STEVEN J MR.
LAS VEGAS , NV 89129
CAPITOL STRATEGIES/EXECUTIVE GIULIANI, RUDOLPH W. (R)
President
RUDY GIULIANI PRESIDENTIAL COMMITTEE INC $-2,300
primary 03/13/07
WARK, STEVEN J MR.
LAS VEGAS , NV 89129
CAPITOL STRATEGIES/EXECUTIVE GIULIANI, RUDOLPH W. (R)
President
RUDY GIULIANI PRESIDENTIAL COMMITTEE INC $4,600
primary 03/13/07
Wark, Steven J. Mr.
Las Vegas, NV 89128
Image and Design/Business Executive
STRAIGHT TALK AMERICA $1,000
primary 05/31/06
Wark, Steven J
Las Vegas, NV 89104
Image & Design Inc./Owner
RICH POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $1,500
primary 12/07/05
WARK, STEVEN
LAS VEGAS, NV 89104
IMAGE & RESIGN/OWNER LUNGREN, DANIEL E (R)
House (CA 03)
LUNGREN FOR CONGRESS $1,000
general 06/30/04
Wark, Steven J.
Las Vegas, NV 89104
Image & Design Inc./Owner
RICH POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $500
primary 11/12/03
WARK, STEVEN JAMES
LAS VEGAS, NV 89104
IMAGE & DESIGN INC PORTER, JON SR (R)
House (NV 03)
FRIENDS OF JON PORTER INC $500
primary 09/18/00
WARK, STEVEN
LAS VEGAS, NV 89104 ASHCROFT, JOHN D (R)
Senate - MO
ASHCROFT 2000 $1,000
primary 08/07/00
WARK, STEVEN JAMES
LAS VEGAS, NV 89104
IMAGE & DESIGN INC PORTER, JON SR (R)
House (NV 03)
FRIENDS OF JON PORTER INC $1,000
general 06/30/00
WARK, STEVEN JAMES
LAS VEGAS, NV 89104
IMAGE & DESIGN INC PORTER, JON SR (R)
House (NV 03)
FRIENDS OF JON PORTER INC $500
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I find it interesting that Steve Wark, caucus spokesman, thinks people are acting like children when they want an honest vote. The complaints brought forward by the Paul campaign are valid. Incorrect caucus locations, changes in eligibility requirements, not enough ballots...why are these things childish? Wark is very insulting.
So, the Nevada GOP made a mistake that favors the campaigns with the best organization (can notify their voters on short notice of a change in caucus location, can make sure certain precincts have ballots in the event of shortages, have people in place with the power to apply their discretion in deciding who can vote, etc.). Then, when they get called on it, their bruised egos cause them to admit they think the Ron Paul campaign is not one of the organizations with the best organization. I think they just proved that the Ron Paul campaign was right to be concerned.
I'm sorry...did someone just accuse Ron Paul's campaign of "lack of organizing"???? Dr. Paul's campaign has nothing BUT time to organize since they don't have to focus ANY resources on fund-raising and non-standard advertising due to the multitude of netizens more than willing to devote their time. You may recall an article released awhile back pointing out that Dr. Paul's campaign was the only one, at the time, that was savvy enough to utilize California's recently updated rules regarding delegates, forming a plan to garnish many more delegates than any other Republican focusing on that state. Not organized???
Also, I find the statement, "We would hope that the Paul campaign would go act like adults..." to be akin to screaming, "I'M NOT YELLING!!!" "go act like adults"? Who's the child here? This implication that a presidential candidate's campaign is acting childish when they're upset that voters were directed to the wrong caucus sites is anything but merited. Accusing someone for not having their sh** together when it's not their responsibility to inform tax-paying voters the correct location at which to caucus is completely and utterly misguided. The reasonability to inform the voters does not lie within individual campaign.
That being said, did the powers-that-be not see this caucus coming?!?!?!?! For god's sake, it's not like these elections are run randomly throughout the calendar year. What is it that took Nevada by surprise? Is Nevada watching the Joneses? One would naturally have to wonder....why change rules...why not have caucus locations in place...checked, double-checked and tripled-checked WAAAAY before caucus time? What is it that needs to change at the last moment that is causing all of this confusion and misinformation? What exactly is it that Nevada felt needed to be changed and why? Seriously...why? And why is it that when they are called on this, they lash out at one of the campaigns asking for answers?
Seriously....who's the group that doesn't have their sh** together?
Thank you. Ron Paul for standing up for our rights once more.
Well... The rules are the rules. If they have been broken/not followed someone needs to step up to the plate and take responsibility.
With all the opposition and attempts from the GOP/msm to suppress Ron Paul,
I wouldn't be surprised if this is another attempt to keep him silenced.
Ron Paul is the only candidate with dignity, honesty and is such a gentleman.
He graciously have handled himself very well despite the contempt and dishonesty from the MSM/GOP and the other candidates.
He is my candidate of choice due to his substance and knowledge on the effects of the war in Iraq in our economy and current recesssion. He studied economics for 30 yrs. The other "frontrunners" don't have a clue.
My hard earned money is going to Ron Paul's campaign-HOPE for America.
"go and act like adults?" Look whos talking.
What is really bazaar is that the person who cannot give out the correct information to hold a valid caucus, is saying "Let's act like adults"
"We would hope that the Paul campaign would go act like adults and not try to set up straw men to make up for their lack of organizing," said Steve Wark, a caucus spokesman.
The web site posting invalid info, for days after complaints, but the RP campaign is not adult?
How about an apology? That seems adult! Blame shifting is childish!
Steve Wark, as a life-long Republican, I am ashamed!
Maybe this is why the elections are now fraudulent -- maybe the media should be interviewing DAVID ROCKEFELLER to get answers...
Democrat CFR member Candidates:
Barack Obama (also, Michelle Obama is on the Board of Directors in the Chicago branch of the CFR)
Hillary Clinton
John Edwards
Chris Dodd
Bill Richardson
Republican CFR member Candidates:
Mitt Romney
Rudy Giuliani
John McCain
Fred Thompson
Newt Gingrich
Mike Huckabee (not a CFR member, though he named Richard Haas, president of the CFR, as his adviser on foreign policy)
Background on David Rockefeller's private thinktank, the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)
http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/cfr_stacks_deck_with_dem_gop_presidential_candidates.htm
and
Dick Cheney (ex-director of CFR) talks to David Rockefeller (short video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbnpN07J_zg
I feel that they have a right to be unhappy with what has been going on in Nevada. Why has the Republican party been changing all these things anyway? Maybe they should quit accusing the Paul campaign of babyish ways and start answering some questions about their own wishy-washy games. This whole election has been nothing but a farce, with the media playing games, and banishing Ron Paul's name from the news, and now the politcal parties are also showing their corruption. Can't we have some honest people in this country who will just do what is right? The whole thing makes me sick. Maybe the people in this country deserve Socialism and economic chaos if they aren't smart enough to get educated and stand up for the Constitution and fairness.
I'm outraged by the chutzpah of Steve Wark in flippantly dismissing the Ron Paul campaign's complaints about the gross incompetence in the running of the GOP caucus in Nevada, which is the basis of the campaign's request that the caucus be postponed. Frankly, the way things have been handled to date is a disgrace. The outrage is doubly great in view of the claims made at Mr. Wark's business website ( http://www.medspas.com/index.php?con=about ): "Wark is acknowledged as perhaps one of the finest voter contact grassroots experts in the country. He has worked in the past for National Republican Senatorial Committee as well as successful congressional and gubernatorial races in Nevada and California and scores of state legislative races. Over the last ten years he has used these skills to represent physicians and the medical community in a number of different legislative battles concerning tort reform. Steve Wark has combined all of these unique skills and experiences to position his clients in the medical profession for their future in the medial spa industry. His pinpoint approach to capturing your marketplace and persuading your clientele is a rare find in an age of scattered, wasteful marketing."
If Mr. Wark is such a genius at running races, then why the current fiasco in NV? I find it hard to attribute such massive ineptitude (not to mention chutzpah) to innocent human error in spite of the best of intentions.
Where does he get off blaming the problems in NV on Dr. Paul's campaign? It sounds to me like Mr. Wark is just begging for a lawsuit . . . it sounds to me like somebody is wide-open to a lawsuit.
Mr. Wark should stop bringing disgrace on the GOP and Nevada by trying to pass blame for serious local problems on Dr. Paul's campaign, which has been characterized by a high level of professionalism.
Christopher Witmer
Angry GOP voter
i trust the paul campaign more then i trust some gop spokesman. i have read the complaints on the paul website and they sound serious.
I think the Nevada GOP should "act like adults" and postpone it.
I have tried to keep my distance from politics in the past. However, Ron Paul was a breath of fresh air and I decided to pay attention. I can now say that American politics are the most interesting to date. The games played to keep Ron Paul out of the race are unbelievable. The moving target of rules, unfair media play, the complete disrespect, and the mocking our our constitution simply make me sick. I thought we were spreading the thoughts of free elections around the world. I see none of that here in America. I see a two party system that doesn't even get along with itself. I see politicians willing to say anything to get elected while Rome is burning. I see a complete disrespect for our dollar and politicians laughing about cutting the size of government. I see nothing in the future but tax and spend. But, to make matters worse they use this corrupt system of elections to stay in power. I can honestly say I have a much greater respect for Ron Paul now than I did before. Ron, you are one GREAT AMERICAN! But, please turn the light out if you leave. Who is John Galt?
Poke fun at the disgraceful methods of voter inaccuracy in this country just a week after you put out the biggest FLUB in history by actually publishing the votes in the New Hampshire primary with the names under the wrong columns???
Yeah, we take your newspaper reporting seriously. Right.
Let's see if Nevada can do it fairly...thus far the American people have likely been cheated. We'll see.
Sara Medina
Tampa Florida
THE COST OF SUPPORTING RON PAUL
I would like to vent on how I was treated by Fort Henry Mall management in Kingsport, TN. I went there regularly before I started hauling the trailer.
I have a small 10 foot trailer that I am hauling a 4ft X 8ft Ron Paul sign on. I had my truck and sign parked in the parking lot at the Fort Henry Mall. I had backed my truck into a parking space but did have the trailer wheels in the grass so the mall management had my truck and trailer towed. My truck was parked as it should have been but the mall had two wreckers tow both my truck and my trailer at a cost to me of $153.80. When I saw that they had my truck and trailer towed I went to management and ask where my truck was towed to. (Oh, by the way I have a disabled veteran tag on my truck) My disability is related to agent orange so I am still fairly active but I was not dressed for the 3 mile walk to the impound lot to get my truck. At the time I talked to the manager I ask if I could park in the lot as I was in the mall about 2 hours each day. I was told that it would be alright as long as I parked in between the lines but I was hassled by the manager again because of where I was parked. I was parked in the same small lot where the ATM is on the Fort Henry Drive side. I reminded him that he said that I could park as long as I had it within the lines. He told me that I could not park there but agreed I could park within the other lots closer to the mall. So I will be there daily but may be hassled again even though I have followed his instructions.
In my discussion with the manager I ask if he thought there could have been another way he could have handled it other than have both my trailer and truck towed as the truck was parked as it should have been. I asked if maybe a note could have been left on my truck asking me to come by the office. (A first warning)
I must also say that neither my truck or trailer were obstructing traffic within the parking lot. I was parked on the perimeter of the parking lot Thanks for letting me vent.
It was all worth it to support RON PAUL
Sounds like Ron Paul could do well in Nevada so rest assured that the Nevada GOP will try and screw Paul out of delegates. Wow, what a bunch of cheating scumbags the GOP is...
No surprises. Chaos is the best way to cover up voter fraud, once again!
God Bless Ron Paul for bringing to the American people the truth of the situation in Nevada. I think the Ron Paul campaign has proven time and again to the adults with the rest of the Republican field, especailly the other candidates, acting like schoolboys on a playground. The immature responses at the debates and in media interviews will cost the Republicans the election. The only man with courage in this race that will make real change happen is Ron Paul.
hey idiots here is some math if there are aprox 300.000.000 million people in america ok from that we minus all the criminal goverment and there families you have about 267.000.000 left un fortunatly for the crooks running america we the people are awakining by the thousands every day and when it does come time to vote and several hundred million people are ripped out of there vote then i guess the lying criminal news media will then de stopped
I am afraid that the followers of Ron Paul are finding out just how corrupt and inconsistant the electoral process is. (Much like the dems found out in Florida)
You have to understand that if you are in government, or part of the media, or a company or sub-contractor working on government contracts, you are unreliable as a source of information.
Reporters need to return basics, and stick to a point when they are researching and writing stories. It used to be who, what, when, where, how and sometimes why. Now it's he said, she said, they reported.
"We would hope that the Paul campaign would go act like adults and not try to set up straw men to make up for their lack of organizing,"
That's a very childish thing to say, Steve Wark. Why don't you address the complaints? They seem valid to me.
The Nevada state Republican Party stated there was a problem.. where are you getting your information from?
Ron Paul needs to push for legal action! First new hampshire, now this! This is an outrage!
Not a surprise this race has been one of exclusion from the start. A media blackout for Ron Paul because the powers that be are scared the only man with any plan that would fix the economy could get the word out. While Bush and his friends are destroying the Dollar and getting America in so much debt that an Amero well look good to them. Ron Paul would be the end of the North American Union and the Super HWY that Bush says does not exist at the same time they are building it. Wake up America this is it either you’re a slave to Globalist or you’re an American. Go Dr. Ron Paul.
Louis Tash
Shows how corrupt the GOP is. If it were any one else but Paul that pointed out the problems it would be major news and there would be no doubt that it would be postponed until the problems were fixed. Sickening...
Not a very professional response from Wark.. I hope they aren't payin that guy.
"We would hope that the Paul campaign would go act like adults and not try to set up straw men to make up for their lack of organizing," said Steve Wark, a caucus spokesman. --- Hey Steve, who is acting like children, playing games with misinformation on sites and rules. Grow up Steve!
The Paul campaign is looking for "multiple inconsistencies" to cover his lack of support in Navada. If he doesn't do well in a state where Romney is the only one campaigning against him, his bid of the presidency is over. With only 7% in the polls and if he come in fifth his money will dry up. He knows this, so Paul will do anything to show the caucus appears to be in chaos.
Not a surprise this race has been one of omission from the start. A media blackout for Ron Paul because the powers that be are scared the only man with any plan that would fix the economy could get the word out. While Bush and his friends are destroying the Dollar and getting America in so much debt that an Amero well look good to them. Ron Paul would be the end of the North American Union and the Super HWY that Bush says does not exist at the same time they are building it. Wake up America this is it either you’re a slave to Globalist or you’re an American. Go Dr. Ron Paul.
Louis Tash
I am sick of the powers that be tryin to keep Americans from having our vote heard and they try to manipulate our voting process.What is jappening o our country when we sit back and let this take place.Quit letting them tell us what to believe and do.Ron Paul was already cheated in New Hampshire in Sutton county and we sit and let coorporate owned media tell us who is a viable candidate andtheir so-called scientific polls tell you who is leading here or there, but the fact is Ron Paul outraised every Repubulican candidate and he doesn't take coorporate money,also he received more donations from troops and veterans thaan any other candidate Republican or Democrat so what does that tell you people,use your own mind and quit letting people with agendas tell you how to use your right that people have given their lives to give you.The lies and the cheating in our political system have to stop and they won't stop on their own so we mus stop them.
If it isn't obvious to everybody by now that the Republican and media establishments are trying to marginalize Ron Paul, then it never will be.
Every poll/survey is fixed, just ask Frank Luntz from Fox. The media does a great disservice to the nation by posting these so-called poll results before an election with no detail on how this poll was conducted. We will definitely elect the candidate the political action committees, big business, and the media want us to elect.
Well, can you blame Ron Paul for not trusting the media or establishment? Look at what they have done already to hush him up. Fox news especially. They fear his message and will try anything to discredit him. Believing strongly in the constitution should not be considered a radical stance!
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Vote for Ron Paul in the primaries!
Register Republican in your state NOW so you can vote for Ron Paul in the primaries.
"Steve Wark, a caucus spokesman."
Steve Wark is chairman of the Clark County Republican Party, and he is reacting to criticism that his group sent out incorrect information.
Steve Wark, you are the person to blame for this mess. Will you please accept that you have made some human mistakes and then apologize?
I never believed the hysteria concerning voter fraud before. Will someone explain to me the Nevada GOP actions here?
The allegations have been corroborated; the Nevada GOP spokesperson Zac Moyle apologized for the inaccurate and conflicting misinformation that directed voters to incorrect caucus locations.
On Thursday, the Nevada GOP corrected the information on their website, there was no time to correct the information via other media.
I don't think there is nothing wrong with observing and keeping the system honest. Our founding fathers allowed dissension when they gave the right to speech and allowed people to check and balance each other. I dont understand why a representative of the vote organization resorts to name calling when in fact it is their job to stay objective and try to address inconsistencies. Even if one vote is missed that vote should be significant and if there is confusion where to vote I am certain that there will be more than one person who will be lost in the vote. Why create a bubble and if the best man can't win on his own merrits because of confusing information of where to vote, what good does this really serve for the repulican party much less the nation. It is a sad day for America if we can't even believe our voting officials want all of us to excercise our right to vote.
Is anyone surprised...
The establishment will do anything possible to keep Ron Paul's campaign down.
HA HA HA Paul got 4th place in the largest primary to
date. Michigan has more voters than all the other
primaries to date combined. They are the 8th largest
state. What is interesting is that Ron Paul is still
getting a lot of votes. He spent less time and money
then Giuliani in Michigan but pulled more votes than
Thompson and Giuliani combined. Does that mean that
Ron Paul has more supporters that voted in real
primaries than Giuliani and Thompson combined?
Also remember that he still has $8Million Dollars in the bank and is expected to raise some more on Monday. He
will not win but he stands a chance of having his
issues become more important. He is still on the
stage and that means he is still getting his message
out and making Guiliani and Thompson look like the tools they are.
So I did something that no one in the media dares put
in written form. I counted the total number of votes
for a candidate to date in all primaries. Here are
the numbers.
442,595 – Romney 37.07%
361,235 – McCain 30.25%
206,281 – Huckabee 17.27%
84,335 – Paul 7.06%
50,542 – Thompson 4.23%
49,114 – Giuliani 4.11%
Here are the population numbers for the following
states that have had primaries.
As of January 15th 2008:
9,938,444 - Michigan
2,926,324 - Iowa
1,235,786 - New Hampshire
493,782 - Wyoming
January 19th, 2008
4,012,012 - South Carolina
2,495,529 - Nevada
January 29th, 2008
15,982,378 - Florida
Local GOP screws up and then suggests that it's childish to complain about the screw-up.
Injustice in the 2008 election process
Even if Ron Paul is not nominated, I am sending a clear message on how I feel about the same-old same-old politics and to disregard the candidates that the "main stream press" wants you to think are the front runners.
For one thing these "front runners" are better ad revenue. What better contest than a black man and a white woman. That'll probably change to a Protestant Minister against a black Christian, oh the Protestant Minister will bring up the Muslim past of the black candidate. He trashed Mitt Romney's Mormon faith, then apologized but still made his point.
You have to remember that the producers of the nightly news know their superiors preferential candidate. In some instances maybe more than most, the news producer was picked because of his/her political leaning, i.e. FOX comes to mind.
See
Subconsciencely news producers will not bash a candidate that will have a direct effect on their next raise or position.
This whole fiasco is being driven by add revenue, inaccurate polling and subconscience pressure.
Someone even went into Wikipedia and removed Ron Paul as running in 2008. Dirty politics?
You can find more truthful news if you do a little digging.
Here's another fact.
"Ron Paul Beats Digg Bury Brigade"
"Exposure on social networking giant continues viral online trend of Congressman's message"
If you don't know about the social networking site giant digg.com, you can watch in real time the submissions of subscribers at Some topics are so popular that it shuts down sites because too many people try to log-in. That's called the Digg effect.
This site talks about people trying to digg down any Ron Paul submissions and they are failing. Follow this link>
This is how corrupt the voting process is.
Ron Paul supporters were denied access after paying their dues. What it didn't say was that after they were denied they went across the street and drew a larger crowd. See the video follow this link>
In another instance he was not invited to the Iowans for Tax Relief and Iowa Christian Alliance debate in June.
"Why are the Iowans for Tax Relief and the Iowa Christian Alliance excluding the one Republican candidate who scored at the top of every online poll taken after the MSNBC, Fox News, and CNN debates?", asked one publication.
Did you know that independents' can vote for Democrats but not Republicans in a California Primary, I didn't until I dug a little. Follow this link>
If you do a little homework on who won more straw polls you'll find Ron Paul either near the top or at the top.
This site "meetup dot com", type in Ron Paul and other candidates will show you how many people are meeting in cities around the US organizing for their candidate. Meetups for Ron Paul are over 1500 across the nation. Three four times more than his closest rival. See this site>
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This is where grass roots organizations are forming, and not a mention in the mainstream press. Probably censored here as well.
Here's the Trend History indicator from Google, go to google.com slash trends and put in any number of candidates, it shows the frequency of searches on candidates names plotted against one another. Follow this link>
Again probably censored here as well.
I won't be taken by the media hype again. The internet has changed things for the better.
REMEMBER, IT IS NOT THE NEWS YOU SEE AND READ THAT'S IMPORTANT, IT'S THE NEWS YOUR NOT BEING GIVEN.
I won't even go into electronic voting equipment that can't give you a receipt like an ATM, that's another story.
Go Ron Paul.
Who owns the media?
Three are outside the US.
Rupert Murdock is now a citizenship of the US but the main company is in Australia.
Who owns the bulk of the media?
1 Time
2 Disney
3 Bertelsmann Germany
4 Viacom
5 News Corp Australian
6 Vivendi France
I agree if you send someone the wrong location to vote at, that's just plain wrong.
Leave it to the Neo Cons to insult a candidate for wanting a free and fair election.
Forget the survey. At this moment, Dr. Paul is tied with John McCain for second place. If the Nevada GOP distorted the process, then they may distort the election results. This is America, not a banana republic. How dare they.
Mr. Steve Wark is not concerned with fair political processes. His attempt to frame Paul as less than an "adult" in dismissing a valid complaint is typical of his character.
In 2004 he unapologetically aided in the Ralph Nader campaign, not because he was a Nader supporter, but rather to benefit George W. Bush.
He says "I didn't do it for my own health."
(http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2004/Jul-12-Mon-2004/news/24282787.html)
What is wrong with asking for a fair process?
The GOP must act like used car salesmen because if the customer/ voter has time to discern the issue's Dr. Paul will win.
Yea...it was horrible. very disorganized. I was told i could cast a provisional vote...and then that was taken away and i could not. allot of mis-information. And the people who were supposed to have the correct answers were the one responsible for sending out incorrect caucus locations.
Ron Paul will never get a fair shake by the GOPee... They are very threatened by his platform. It amazes me how many of our electorate are ignorant of the issues including the politicians running. If Ron Paul gets elected there would be a lot of parasites dropping off the rotting carcass of the government.
Strange that Nevada of all places would show a mormon leading in the polls.
"Of course, Ron Paul is the man that could save the GOP in next year's general election, but the Republican machine would rather die than let him win the nomination. Therefore, the GOP is in a self-destruct mode, and I don't believe anyone can do anything to prevent it." {Chuck Baldwin}
That was said by Chuck Baldwin, The most conservative preacher in the United States.
Ron Paul is the last hope of this nation to get back on track with our Constitution. The American people are sick of both parties and are tired of all the campaign lies. Ron Paul can run on his record as a conservative, he does not have to fool anyone. America needs an American President, not a globalist leader.
"Of course, Ron Paul is the man that could save the GOP in next year's general election, but the Republican machine would rather die than let him win the nomination. Therefore, the GOP is in a self-destruct mode, and I don't believe anyone can do anything to prevent it." {Chuck Baldwin}
That was said by Chuck Baldwin, The most conservative preacher in the United States.
Ron Paul is the last hope of this nation to get back on track with our Constitution. The American people are sick of both parties and are tired of all the campaign lies. Ron Paul can run on his record as a conservative, he does not have to fool anyone. America needs an American President, not a globalist leader.
I'd trust the Ron Paul campaign long before I trust the Nevada GOP.
I speak as a Republican who is fed up with party hacks and politics as usual.
The Nevada GOP should get their act straight. It would not surprise me for a moment to find out they were trying to keep Ron Paul's supporters out of the game.
Wow, what an incredibly biased article. Could you paint Paul in a worse light? Their "complaint" was more a reasonable objection to "lack of organizing" within the state GOP! What a ridiculous excuse for journalism this rag article is. You people sicken me.
We would hope that the Nevada GOP would go act like impartial party officers with some level of competency and not flipflop like dying fish or the other candidates instead of acting like a bunch of amateurs who can't get their oen act together, and if they think there is a lakc of organizing by the Paul camaign in Nevada, then they've been speinding way too much time with the complementary drinks in the casinos. The Nevada GOP has no room to complain about anything if they keep changing the rules every few days and show no level of professionalism or competency in conducting a Presidential caucus. Perhaps they should grow up, shut up, and do the job right!
What do you have to say now? Even with the crap the GOP and Media is trying to pull on Paul, he's trouncing most of the other NeoCon dictator wannabes.
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Ron Paul is coming in 2nd in Nevada in the caucuses, how's that for organizing. The fact that the voter's in Nevada were not being treated fairly is what Ron Paul was lodging a complaint about. It is Steve Wark that should grow up and act like an adult and organize a caucus more effectively.
Ron Paul in 5th??? I don't th ink so. That survey sounds pretty fishy... just like these caucus spokesman.
Looks like their poll saying RP finishing 5th was wrong, just like all the polls.
Think for yourself and do not listen to these stupid polls
" 'We would hope that the Paul campaign would go act like adults and not try to set up straw men to make up for their lack of organizing," said Steve Wark, a caucus spokesman.'
Hey Steve-o, is 2nd place good enough for you. You schmuck.
Well quite frankly, he's right. The voting system in this country has been screwed up long enough. I can see why voters don't get out and vote...most probably think there is no point considering schemes like this decide who's going to win anyhow.
Ridiculous article. Paul ended up with 2nd place and 4 delegates.
Ya well Paul came in second. The media is still barely talking about him, a virtual slap in the face to the people that went out and voted.
These misinformed, complacent, lemming-like journalists are complicit in a system that is ruining America. One day they'll look back and feel ashamed..well that is assuming they have a conscience.
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And so, the game of corrupt politics goes on, and on and on. Makes an American sick.
even with all the very shady tactics, Dr Paul, is going to take second. i really don't understand why those in power are so afraid of letting people hear the issues and how consistant a voting record the candidates have had. oh but then Ron Paul would be our next president. i hope the the american people wake up and see that there really is no other choice.
"Act like adults"?????? New's Flash...Paul just took 2nd Place!!!!!!!!! yet right here you list him at a projected 5th. When will Ron Paul finally get his fare share of coverage on his outstanding grass roots support and record breaking fund raising and his strong finishes in these early primaries where he has beat out supposed "front runners" "top tier" candidates.
Paul has WON or come in in the top 3 in more STRAW POLLS than any of the other candidates Republican or Democrate.....he is the true candidate for America and has won over 50% of straw polls around the country!! who else can you say has accomplished what he has done... YET HE STILL GET'S NO COVERAGE!!
Well read it and weap Ron Paul just proved his support in Nevada, the People Have Spoken and will not be silenced. Don't you understand that the less coverage Ron Paul get's the more the american people are inspired to support Ron Paul?
DR. Paul has talked about this it's called "Blow Back"!!!!!!!!!!
"Ron Paul is the only candidate that can win for America"
It's the message no the man and people are waking up.
Thanks for what you do for Liberty America, Ron Paul in 08.
of course they don't care if everything works how it's supposed to, it's not like fair elections are important to democracy.
Well despite the errors and inconsistencies, Ron Paul is in second place YEY!!!!!
Sure they are neutral, he just wants to allow all people to vote, after all he is for the people!!!!!
Ron Paul the only one looking after everyone!!!
I guess that Las Vegas Review Journal survey was off. Looks like you could have picked a better source.
Well, Ron Paul came in second. So what gives?
The USA no longer exist as we knew it. The people who sent out the misinformation should be tried for high treason. Since the start of "Computer Voting" we now have one of the most dishonest voting systems in the world. The country is totally controlled by the media, large corporations and the Federal Reserve Bankers. We must now rename our country "United Sheeps of Northern America" (USNA).
This nation once had brave reporters who risk their lives to gather real news, all we have now are painted actors pretending to be news men and women. Shame on them, their Facist employers, and the people of USNA.
I guess the Las Vegas- Journal was wrong on their survey about where Ron Paul would finish!
I think its a sham that the Republican party is bullying states and candidates with their curruptive tactisc regarding our votes. Its also a sham that the monopolized media own the Republican party-ie Fox new. I am convinced that the Republican party wants anyone under the elititist wealthy few to stay in debt and to remain slave to their rule, either through debt or service in their wars. Ron Paul is refreshingly different and that is why I would ever consider voting for a Republican. However, harsh times require harsh decisions. If ever there was one reason alone, it would be Paul's unwavering stance on the war. His knee jerk reaction to the contrived Persian Bay incident with the USS Hooper proves his caution and wisdom.
The sooner the Republican Party wakes up and realizes that Ron Paul is their only real chance of winning over Democrats the better.
He is the only Republican in the pack who has promised to end the war, and not just soon, but immetiately. Polls show that over 70% of Americans want out of Iraq and will most likely vote for ANY Democrat if a pro-war Republican candidate is nominated.
The American People are supporting him with their wallets, while the other Republican candidates(except for Mitt Romney) are running on fumes going into February. There is a clear message to the Party in this trend.
They should listen up and support their most conservative candidate.
Sure, we should all just act like adults and vote for McCain so he can lose to Billary.
i guess the RJ's polls not so accurate
Here are the updated numbers:
Romney 51%
Paul 14%
McCain 13%
Thompson 8%
Huckabee 8%
umm if there is any proof of that (which there would have to be for a complaint) then the Paul campaign would be well within their civic duties to question this electoral process.