Clinton camp angry over disparaging of Chelsea
The Clinton campaign and its allies are up in arms about a comment made by a cable TV political show host that Chelsea Clinton is being "pimped out in some weird sort of way" by making appearances for her mother on the campaign trail.
David Shuster has been temporarily suspended from NBC news broadcasts, and at the top of the Tucker Carlson show on MSNBC at 6 apologized on air for the remark he made Thursday evening on MSNBC.
Shuster said his remarks were "inappropriate."
"I apologize to the Clinton family, the Clinton campaign, and all of you who were rightly offended," he said.
Shuster said he did not intend to diminish the respect that she and her parents had earned.
On Thursday night, his guest, radio talk show host Bill Press, immediately defended the former first daughter, saying she wouldn't be campaigning if she didn't want to. "Give Chelsea a break."
Today, the Clinton camp threatened to boycott the cable network, even though it is scheduled to host a debate with Barack Obama she wants. And this afternoon, EMILY's List, which raises money for female candidates, weighed in.
"I'm sending this letter today to let you know that the misogynistic pattern in the reporting by your network must come to an end," Ellen Malcolm, the group's president, wrote to MSNBC News Senior Vice President Phil Griffin. "I know I speak for millions across this country when I demand that you take immediate steps and publicly tell us what you will do to eliminate this sexist and demeaning culture that has become so pervasive in your network.
Malcolm mentioned that Chris Matthews, host of "Hardball" on MSNBC, recently apologized to the former first lady after suggesting her political career had been made possible by her husband's philandering.
"Your tolerance for this behavior speaks volumes about the corporate culture of MSNBC," Malcolm continued. "If you refuse to take action, women across the country, viewers, sponsors, and consumers can only assume your implicit endorsement of this type of sexist commentary on women and repugnant treatment of our children."



truth , truth, truth... i love chris matthews, who is so right on. his show is my favorite. never miss it. the clintons high horse is getting mighty high for such a family. her daughter is begining to amuse and annoy people. the view made fun of her and her manner . dont put her out there if you dont want her to take flak for the parents. this is an election , not a love fest. by the way, i am a woman of a certain age an intelligence. the dream demographic for clinton. and i resent all the lum ping of me with the womans vote. make them stop.
So EMILY's list raises money for female candidates....hmmm. Female only....ins't that sexist in itself? Yet she writes letters about MSNBC's 'sexist' culture because they allowed someont to use the word 'pimped'. What a joke. People like her should be publicly mocked and humiliated when they speak.
It is about time we all do something about msnbc, I have sent many an email to chris and keith who have been rude and bias to the clintons,
What's with the solid barrage of anti-Clinonism? Fox News is actually more fair than MSNBC. It's blatant, and I've lost much respect for not only Schuster and Matthews, but Olbermann too.
Sounds like he hit it right on the head. The Clinton's will do anything to further their agenda of pillaging this country. I wonder if anyone will show billary going around with her beggars cup trying to get more money from the working poor.
If you're of "a certain age an intelligence", maybe you could proofread before sending your comment. We wouldn't want to be guilty of "lum ping" you in with illiterates.
not sure if her political career had been made possible by her husband's philandering but that has definitely aided that
No. 1, you speak of your "intelligence". You had better learn how to spell and punctuate before you open your mouth.
By the way, who is pimping you?
Scott: 1, Feminists: 0
Same old pattern of hatred and bile for the female Clinton's coming out in one more way. This is not the first time their daughter has had to put up with slime. How come Tagg Romney and others aren't held up to the same negative scrutiny? Some people are such slime bags to rationalize their bigotry and hatred as justified.
yep, and it use to okay to call an african american 'boy' or the 'n' word.
So free speech is out the door if deemed in bad taste? Another "group" has to weigh in and force their views for something that they see unfit for the public. I've been an adult for some years now and am practiced in the art of making up my own mind. So what if he made a comment about being pimped out. Do you think EMILY's list also sends letters to MTV for having a show called "Pimp my Ride". This is just another example of the dynamics of a modern society. Everyone is to busy telling the next person how to live their life. Why can't we focus on real problems and write letters for things like under funded health care and education?
What is it with MSNBC's anti-Clinton, misogynistic bias? Even Fox News who hates Hillary is fairer in their reporting. I have lost respect not only for Matthews and Schusters, but for Olbermann as well. That grieves me. Many of us Democrats are genuinely conflicted, and like both our candidtes; and seeing this male cabal working against Clinton every day skews my decision towards her. That's not the way I want to make an important political decision -- based on despising a blabbermouth like Matthews.
The lies Bill & Hilary stated about Obama where far, far more offensive. They sure are not publicly apologizing for those comments.
What a cheap political ultra PC move by the Billary Clinton Camp!!!!
Women of the world unite and vote for poor us because the world is so sexist!
Do buy into it!!
Mr. Blake
Are you two yahoos serious? Either one of you have daughters? Your daughter ever work at your family business? Your daughter or son ever help the family by doing some kind of work in a way? Are your sons and daughter whores to be "pimped out"? Come on, this isn't about politics, this is about being human.
Women have to rais emoney for women because men are sexists and do not want to give money to female candidates!
Good for Emily's list. Others should do the same. Next Bill Press will resort to calling folks "nappy headed ho's."
Do either of you "intelligent" commentators know what "pimping" means?
these comments go in step with the Obama crowds. Hatred-filled venom. Try commenting on Obama's deeds and opinions, and you will be torn to shreds for being something you are not. Airy-fairy parroting of the word 'change' - like being in la la land - and you have a ticket to the white house. President of the USA, Obama? After Bush, really this is all a joke.
Lighten up girls! O.K., so if the remark offends you let it be known to the person who spoke it, and give him or her the chance to apologize. Then move on, or cry, cry, cry...Whiny...whiny...whiny I'm a professional working woman and can't stand it when women react this way to men's sometimes inappropriate remarks.
Hillary's making a mountain out of a molehill.
Agree. That's why I've switched to CNN in recent days...
Chelsea Clinton is being "pimped out in some weird sort of way" by making appearances for her mother on the campaign trail.
Disparaging Chelsea Clinton? - No not at all - this is disparaging her mother & father! If your going to "use" your daughter or son for this kind of work you better get some thick skin. It just goes with the job.
Both Chris Matthews and David Shuster have made outrageous, misogynistic remarks about Hillary and Chelsea Clinton, and their guests have called them on it. Moreover, they never highlight Michelle Obama's insensitive remarks while constantly repeating Bill Clinton's. It's clear that Matthews and Shuster support Obama over Clinton, but they pretend to be non-partisan. It's disgusting. First Matthews had to apologize after the incorrect call on New Hampshire, and his constant cheerleading for Obama. Now Shuster has to apologize regarding Chelsea. Is this commentary or propaganda?
This is much ado about nothing. The Clintons want to run the world and they
can't handle this!!!!!!!! The next thing I know Hiliary will be on tv crying about
how much this has hurt her.
I am a 70 year old male. I find the MSNBC a nonsubstance type network when their "professional staff" does not know what is right and what is wrong. Your second writer shows why there is a need for a EMILY's listt. I don't think real unbised freedom will eveer come to America in my lifetime. The first of your letters comes from a little mind so maybe we can look beyound.
Somebody should know right from wrong. It is not that hard.
One way to get the headlines for this evening's news cycle.
Hey it's their daughter.. but a simple call to Shuster asking for an apology would have probably been just as effective.
MSNBC has brought us Olbermann. How bad can they really be?
well, if my campaign were going as well as the Clinton's, I'd make a big deal out of this little thing as well...
Hillary ought to be talking about the great job Bill did and saying the same thing Reagan said to Carter: Are we better off than we were 4 years ago? Just keep hammering that. The difference is so stark and it's such a strong argument. She should be saying let's go "Back to the Future". It allows her to talk specifics and show her command of detail.
Instead, she's falling into some victim schtick, which isn't going to bring up her poll numbers with men. Although, I would admit, it has a chance of helping with women... Let's all agree it was a dumb comment and move on.
Maybe the right wing could start talking about issues and quit doing character assinations on the Clinton's. I think the Bush administration has been an abysmal failure but I don't attack his character.
What is wrong someone offered her a cigar!
Tagg Romney is described as "a senior campaign official" in today's NYTimes. Even the New Yorker printed a nice article about the 5 Romney boys and their support of their dad. But Chelsea, a well educated, hard working woman, makes a few phone calls, and some guy implies that she's a whore. And that is why we, as women, and the Clinton family are angry. She deserves as much respect as the Romney boys, but does she get it? No, because this is a totally misogynist country. We all pretend that women are equal. But, we are not. When Daddy Bush and Brother Jed campaign for George, that's fine. When Bill Clinton campaigns for Hillary, he's "betraying the status of the office of President." If he were campaigning for a male relative, there would not be one single peep.
I commend David Shuster for "calling a spade a spade." Today's society has lost it's sense of reality, and in the midst of all this politically correct nonesense, we are losing our way.
Chelsea Clinton is 27, well educated, and had a career in the private sector. She left that career, if only temporarily, to work for her mothers campaign. Who, if given the opportunity, wouldn't support their mother's lifelong dream of becoming President?
That said, Chelsea IS being Pimped out by the Clinton campaign.
Yeah sensible, you can tell you're really intelligent by your grammar and punctuation.
Chris Matthews has been shamefully biased against clinton and for Obama. The fawning over Obama is over the top. yes he is terrific but so is she. obama does speak poetry but her prose is right on although not as inspiring. Davis Shuster needs to tone it down. he is not in Chris Mattews' league yet.
children campaigning for their parents is fairly common. Mitt Romney's children were everywhere. Chelsea Clinton who grew up in the White House has done a great job in staying out of the media. Saying she is being "pimped out" for campaigning for her mother is just ignorant, and adds nothing to the debate. Sexist or just plain stupid, either way, this isn't a comment any serious news show should be making.
The use of the langauge by Schuster is revealing and is telling that he feels so free to speak that way - I can imagine what the "boys" say when the cameras are off and they are engaging in their locker room talk. Even if Schuster apologizes, the boys will, like a gang of adolescents, themselves try retaliate gainst the victim by fueling their already obvious bias in favor of Obama.
The shame in all of this is that Hilary not only has to run against Obama, fair enough, but also has to run against a media that has devolved into a game show.
If this sampling of writing represents the American public's command of the english language, lord help us.
Family members of politicians have been on the campaign trail ever since there were campaigns.
Why is it assumed that Chelsea is doing this against her will, or perhaps is doing this because her mother is paying her to. (I can't figure out any other connotation of 'pimping' than to equate Chelsea with a prostitute.)
It's the usage of this term that has obviously drawn the attacks of sexism. And correctly. I don't recall Bush being described as pimping his daughters when they made public appearances. I don't recall Gary Hart in 1984 being described as a pimp when his daughter made appearances. Why are the Clintons pimps?
If this sampling of writing represents the American public's command of the english language, lord help us.
Their comments may be offensive to some but they are accurate insights. Would Hillary be even a name and running for President if not for marrying Bill Clinton? No. She may be the first female contender for the office but it's because of a man. She hasn't done it on her own and they are just looking for more sympathy for Hillary or Chelsea.
Sensible, your chronological age may qualify you as a woman, but your maturity level lags way behind --- say, at the teenage level. As for your intelligence, your obvious ignorance negates your I.Q. Learn to be objective, to punctuate, and to compose complete and logical sentences, then you may at least be accorded the attributes you claim for yourself.
Emily's List is simply trying to have government more accurately reflect the population of the United States. There is NOTHING sexist about that. Sorry you find that so threatening, boys. Get used to it.
Sensible, your chronological age may qualify you as a woman, but your maturity level lags way behind --- say, at the teenage level. As for your intelligence, your obvious ignorance negates your I.Q. Learn to be objective, to punctuate, and to compose complete and logical sentences, then you may at least be accorded the attributes you claim for yourself.
The awesome power of hatred!
Listen to yourselves, some of you. Because of your hatred for the Clintons, everything else seems trivial, immaterial. Every wrong seems so right to you.
If somebody tells you you're pimping your daughter, is it OK too?
You are sick, sick beyond curable!
Irritated, get off your pedantic high horse about the literacy of another poster.
Your ad hominem attack does 2 things: 1. It reflects poorly on you and 2. It wastes everyone else's time who reads your comment expecting to read something of substance.
Quitee hte juvenilia. I want my time bak.
Poor choice of words, but nevertheless, Clinton didn't parade out Chelsea until the young started supporting Obama in droves. Seems to me she's being used as much as anyone else
agree with sensible--if you don't want to be scrutinized, then don't go out on the campaign trail where the media's watching like crazy
I am just sick of all this crap -- I am not a Hillary backer at this point, but all the idiots that are in this race for president have nothing better to offer. I just wish a Knight in Shining Armor would appear and overtake all these idiots that are currently trying to capture their party's nomination to run for President. Someone please come forward and give us peace of mind that you can run this country sensibly and in a caring manner.
This is totally absurd. Who the hell is this Idiot Ellen Malcolm gentleman? I'm sure he's some freak that has nothing better to do.
1) MSNBC is protected by this little thing called THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
2) Don't they know that "pimped out" is harmless?
3) The Celery Clinton (death) Camp is just looking for every single little reason to make themselves look like the good guys. OH OH OH SORRY. The good girls.
It's pathetic. It's supremely pathetic and people are realizing that this retarded emotional campaign is false and theatrical.
BRING DAVID BACK....this is a joke!
if SHY 27 year old chelsea can't take the heat...get off the campaign trail...PERIOD
CALLING VIEW WOMEN UP...GOING TO CONN. POLLING SITE, etc, etc..
if mom wasn't jammed up...would we be seeing her?....
who made the phone call to msnbc?...and THEY LISTEN TO THEM?...wow!
i'm scared!
VOTE OBAMA!
One of the pictures that come to mind when I think of Hillary is that of a victim, of her husband's philandering. And I am sure a lot of others have that in their memory still. Some feel sorry for her, some are angry at her for not walking out. So ultimately what Chris Matthews suggested was there are more people that feel sorry than angry. Seems to me he may be right, nothing wrong about that comment.
I'm probably the last person in this country who would consider voting for another Clinton. With that said, I think it's just completely wrong and low class to make comments like this one about Chelsea Clinton. She is an adult who has obviously chosen to support her mother in her campaign - more power to her! To say she is being pimped out by her mother's campaign only serves to make the commentor look petty and small. It's time to assume some professionalism and keep the snide remarks off the air and out of print!
Good grief!!!! Someone gets up and arms over THAT!!! SO WHAT!!! How thin skinned can people get over something so incredibly trivial.
Funny, no one suggested that McCane was "pimping" is mother when she appeared at his side on super tuesday.
This mean spirited political commentary has no place in our media. If you are going to trash talk, do it at a bar with your drinking dudies, not on the air.
When you take a hard look at all the numerous politicos over the decades and view the spectrum of funk they've been labled with in their lives, I can't see where the Clintons have been much out of lockstep with the status quo of all our wonderful past Presidents, and the like... so, give 'em a break. Let's talk about sex, drugs and liars going way back - take your pick, and any one (or more) of these topics will stick to each and every Golden Haired Boy you hoist up for us to see with naked eyes. Let's not look at Ronald Ray-Gun and his Contra dancing moves, yet it's all glossed over and he comes out smelling like a cute little dimpled baby. Wake up Amerika! (Ring)
I would like to know how the Clintons, by playing the race card repeatedly, referring to Obama's race (in that he is half black) when he himself was never running as a black man but as a man that happens to be black is any different than MSNBC's comment about Chelsea. As a former Clinton supporter - Bill that is - I will do anything legal to stop them from taking over the White House again. Eight more years of their sordid soap opera of a life is more than this country needs or wants at this critical time in our history. Obama is our only hope out of this woods we find ourselves in. The Clinton's will continue to pull any punch - if you want to punch then you better be prepared to get punched back. If you don't want Chelsea effected by the rough and tumble of a campaign ask her to sit this one out.
"..Clinton's...pillaging this country.."
Wow, what rock are you living under ??
the US is more sexist than racist. Women are on a "high horse" if they are offended by men chanting "Iron my shirt bitch" but if people yelled "Shine my shoes boy" to Obama that wouldn't be acceptable in "keeping him in his place." .. and I'm voting Obama but not based on colr or gender, based on ideas and character
dear media,
can we please stop insulting the female clintons, because it seems to be hillary's primary source of momentum.
thanks,
the voters
Keith Oberman is off my DVR list after I heard David Shuster comment about Chelsea Clinton.
I'm glad people are paying attention to the bad role MSNBC is playing during this Presidential elections.There are hosts such as Tucker,Chris Mattew and Joe(on morning Joe) who are using the Cable Network to resolve personal issues each of them has with the Clintons.I wonder if they're journalists or a bunch of people with personal agendas;journalists are supposed to report news,not make news themselves.They have to be ashamed of themselves.
So I think the suspension of Shuster is really welcome and should serves as an example.I was David fan when he was reporting on hardball;but since he has joined hosts such as Joe and Tucker,he's out of the mainstream and he doesn't fit in that envoroment.What happened to the David who used to end his reporting by saying:"I'm David Shuster in Washington for Hardball."
I am so sick and tired of the clinton dynasty, first bill was president, now billery wants to be president for 8 years, next they will try to get chelsea to run for president for 8 years that will give the clintons a combinded 24 years in office.
Misogynist mentality runs deep. I venture to say it is the single most problem in the world. From gangsta rap to the Taliban, women are told to cover up, step back and to roll over and take it. F....that! That men are threatened by powerful women is an understatement! Go Hillary, go Chelsea!
About time someone will clean up the "HOUSE" and tell those boys to put their games away!
And to the idea of the Clintons pillaging this country, pull your head out of your a.. !
There was a surplus when Bill was in office and our kids were not getting blown up on the other side of the world over lies and deception for the accumulation of wealth by a select few buddies of George!
Good spelling is a bi-product of good memory, not IQ. However, dictionaries are available if you're uncertain of a word's spelling, William.
We know from Imus's woes that 'HO' is unacceptable, at least on TV. You'd think the geniuses at MSNBC would have figured out that 'Pimp' would not be any less unacceptable. However, it's such a commonly used word in so many different venues today that the Clinton's might have looked better if they had just ignored the whole thing or at least kept it private.
These TV show people have no clue.
BLAH BLAH BLAH!
Who watches that crap anyway?
WELL, EVERYONE IS FAIR GAME HERE HUH
It is a sad commentary on the state of ethics and acceptable conduct in this nation when a national news commentator would make such a disparaging remark about a former President's daughter. Equally distressing is the fact that so many of our fellow citizens happily join in the guttersniping and wallow in the mud and filth like they belong there. I have not seen a U.S. Presidential candidate and family, so maligned since Robert Kennedy in 1968. We have a growing portion of our electorate, intellectually incapable of debating the issues, but who thrill at the opportunity to spread poison and committ libel about our candidates and leaders. We know the character of you poor minded, needy souls from being subjected to your obscenities and absurdities. May God enlighten you.
mericans ,Asian Americans are all hostage to the n-word the B- word , you will be beat up , your car vandalize for sticker,s against Obama we can insilt the hell out Bush , but don,t you say a negative word against Obama nad his wife ,our freedom is being taken away by fear to be called Racist,
Oy. Gimme a break. It was an observation by a political reporter, perhaps poorly phrased. As a female and a feminist, I am not offended. I, for one, am tired of the Clintons and their false outrage while blatantly seeking press coverage. Who wants 4 more years of this? You could not ask for more knowledgeable political coverage than that from Chris Matthews and David Shuster. Thank God Obama is too adult to get this petty.
Only in America can someone be suspended from their job for telling the truth. Clinton's own party freely stated that Chelsea was making calls to the so called "Super Deligates", as if that were something to be proud of. Now they aren't happy when someone else comments on it, with perhaps the wrong wording...Get over it!
It is a sad commentary on the state of ethics and acceptable conduct in this nation when a national news commentator would make such a disparaging remark about a former President's daughter. Equally distressing is the fact that so many of our fellow citizens happily join in the guttersniping and wallow in the mud and filth like they belong there. I have not seen a U.S. Presidential candidate and family, so maligned since Robert Kennedy in 1968. We have a growing portion of our electorate, intellectually incapable of debating the issues, but who thrill at the opportunity to spread poison and committ libel about our candidates and leaders. We know the character of you poor minded, needy souls from being subjected to your obscenities and absurdities. May God enlighten you.
I am a woman and I am not offended by the truth. To make this into a feminist issue? Come on! These men are speaking the truth! Give it a break. If the Clintons can't handle the heat...
Keep it going, boys. There are plenty of fed up women voters in this country and they are all heading for the polls. The more comments like this, the more likely women will get out there and vote. As for the woman who thought it was all "right on" (#1).....shame on you. You deserve the President we will get if Clinton does not win. Just donated money to the Clinton campaign because of you , #5. I have gotten e mails from the Obama camp every day for the last 2 weeks begging for money. I would rather she spend her own money than barrage me with obnoxious e-mails and calls.
People have to realize that the news shows on MSNBC, FOX, CNN, ect do not have to be the least bit fair when it comes to democrats period. These networks are owned by Republicans, or Republican concerns. They like people that trash talk democrats, especially liberals. They do this because it works people up in one way or another, and that produces ratings, and ratings produce more revenue for the station. Why do you think they produce shows with Nancy Grace, and Bill OreillY? It isn't for their stunning commentary, or command of topic. It is to get people cranked up to create ratings. It is same reason Ann Coulter has a permanent seat on many different shows on these networks. They want people like her to say outrageous things because the crazier they get the more money they make. Even the well intentioned news people that try to hunt for morsels of truth, like Chris Mathews, will have to succomb to their corporate masters at some point in time.
boycott MSNBC. I could careless if it's Clinton's or Laura Bush's, Dem or Rep they are harassing - Sexist or racism should never be tolerated in this modern day
Fair and balanced MSNBC is not.Watching MSNBC is like watching an Obama paid commercial.It has become the network of cheap shots.
The point about this on-air dig at Chelsea is that even within their own liberal minions -- MSNBC isn't exactly FOX News, after all -- the Clintons are ever the polarizing figures still attracting the off-color ranting of talking heads in the first place. That Hillary is the one campaigning this time around and the lightning rod for the criticism of the politically inclined is window dressing. The real issue is that high-profile operatives of the media establishment don't seem to care what this woman might legitimately have to offer because even her own realize she's unelectable; they'd rather pillory Hillary and scuttle her White House aspirations than lose a legitimate shot at the presidency with a stronger candidate.
I USED to respect MSNBC....but not anymore. Your media support and promotion of Obama, and your disparagement of HILLARY is more overt every day. When are you going to become a NEWS STATIONagain - with FAIR AND EQUAL coverage????? Or are you just to giddy with power after creating a creature called OBAMA, when there is no such person as you show on TV and write about. That Obama is fiction.
I hope Clinton never comes near your station again; you don't deserve to make the bucks (you know money money money) off her debates, and despise her so openly.
I USED to respect MSNBC....but not anymore. Your media support and promotion of Obama, and your disparagement of HILLARY is more overt every day. When are you going to become a NEWS STATION again - with FAIR AND EQUAL coverage????? Or are you just too giddy with power after creating a creature called OBAMA, when there is no such person as you show on TV and write about. That Obama is fiction.
I hope Clinton never comes near your station again; you don't deserve to make the bucks (you know money money money) off her debates, and despise her so openly.
The Clinton's play the press like a violin!
MSNBC stop apologizing! It does not become you.
That Hillary is the one campaigning this time around and the lightning rod for the criticism of the politically inclined is window dressing, whether she was attacked directly or otherwise. The real issue is that high-profile operatives of the media establishment don't seem to care what this woman might legitimately have to offer because even her own realize she's unelectable; they'd rather pillory Hillary and scuttle her White House aspirations than lose a legitimate shot at the presidency with a stronger candidate.
I've been an NBC viewer for years, not any longer, I respected Tim Russert and never missed Meet The Press, I wouldn't watch it, lost all respect for him and NBC and it's affiliates. If NBC keeps trashing women, I will personally join any boycott against them!
Classic Clintonian uproar. I heard Schuster in the full context of his reporting before this clip when he asked the question, and there was nothing disrespectful of Chelsea in him asking it.
He was somewhat annoyed that Chelsea was on the road promoting her mother's candidacy to superdelegates, (and I might add, members of
"the View" who thought it was somewhat unusual), yet she has been closed shielded by the Clintons for years from having any contact with the press.
He accurately identified the irony of the Clinton's "protecting" the honor of their 28 year old daughter in the media, yet using her to influence public opinion in a hotly contested and highly publicized political campaign. His reference to her being "pimped out" may have been an unfortunate choice of words for national TV,
but it's Hillary and Bill that are doing the pimping.
Chelsea is the victim. Once again, her parents' political ambitions have placed her in a compromising position. Sure seems like pimpin' to me, which by the way is a commonly used and broadly implied term for anyone who has watched TV more than 15 minutes in the century.
It was not Bill Clinton's compulsive philandering that gave Hillary her opportunites on politics, it was her steadfast demonization of those women who objected to his attentions.
Nobody under the age of sixty thought that Schuster's comment had anything to do with sexual activity. It's a strong word, he used it correctly.
Matthews and Shuster were right in my opinion. If poor little Chelsea and poor little Hillary can't take a little heat, well, you know the rest. Politics is a vile and nasty game as the Clintons know. We all have to respect the fact that they can dish it out and take it with the best of them. But to complain about being victimized in this case is more than a little over the top.
Pouting and wimpering does not become a woman who wants to be the Leader of the Free World does it?
How would we feel if our daughter supported something we did and was dragged in the dirt? We would be defensive for sure. Everything this young woman has done, throughout her life, has been in the media's eye. She is an only child. She is loyal. She and her parents endured negative comments about her looks (not her IQ) throughout puberty. She is a hero. (So, too, were the Bush twins, and Amy Carter.) And, she is right in supporting this historic campaign. The media needs to leave the children of those who run alone. THey certainly are not worthy of our degradation when they give up their personal lives to support their parents. No matter which party we are talking about, I believe this is true. Give these young people a break for loving and respecting their parents.
Scott, so feminists can't vote for women, but blacks can vote for the black candidate by margins of 7:1 and 8:1? Proves once again that sexism in America is far more tolerated than racism in our public discourse.
Those of you who "comment" here really, really need to have your high school English and grammar teachers edit your stuff, first: most of you are borderline literate and incapable of expressive and correct writing.
Was Shuster's gaffe tasteless and inappropriate? Of course it was. What do you expect of one who has to live in the shadows of, and satisfy,Matthews and Olbermann? True, those two are really good at what they do (and say), usually, but they, too, are increasingly egocentric, and the price we (if not, they) pay for it is that they get too easily carried away by dint of their (collective) conviction that they are unrestrained and unanswerable and infallible. No wonder this country's sliding down a greased tube into the hands of its Asian owners. They've learned how to make a fortune in trash and scrap.
How would we feel if our daughter supported something we did and was dragged in the dirt? We would be defensive for sure. Everything this young woman has done, throughout her life, has been in the media's eye. She is an only child. She is loyal. She and her parents endured negative comments about her looks (not her IQ) throughout puberty. She is a hero. (So, too, were the Bush twins, and Amy Carter.) And, she is right in supporting this historic campaign. The media needs to leave the children of those who run alone. THey certainly are not worthy of our degradation when they give up their personal lives to support their parents. No matter which party we are talking about, I believe this is true. Give these young people a break for loving and respecting their parents.
I've been so turned off by MSNBC's insultingly biased & often untrue comments & reporting re the election campaigns that I rarely turn that channel on anymore; and on the rare recent occasions that I have surfed onto MSNBC, I've invariably been disgusted enough to turn it right back off.
It's well known that 95% of the media today is controlled & owned by Republicans, and the Republican party would much rather that its candidate face Obama than Clinton in an election campaign. Accordingly, instead of simply & unbiasedly reporting news & facts, the media increasingly slants what it reports & doesn't report fully or at all whatever it considers detrimental to the aims of the Republican party (the aim here being that the Republican Party and its controlled media much prefer that its candidate face Obama rather than Clinton)--in short, the media propagandizes its reporting in hope of persuading the public to choose Obama, who would be a much weaker opponent, rather than Clinton.
Partial evidence of this: the frequent barbs aimed by Sen. McCain against Clinton while he rarely even mentions Obama, because of course McCain would much rather run against the weaker Obama than against Clinton.
Why the Clintons are crying about Chelsea she is almost 30 years old.
Monica Lewinski was 20 years old when she was violated by Mr. Clinton. He did not apologized to her for abusing his power and taking advantage.She also have parents
and still they are waiting an Apology from
the Clintons. Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!
Scott,
Until women are represented equally in the government, and everywhere, there will always be a need for organizations that support women, and women only.
What I want to know is, what are we going to do about this, besides gripe? We need to boycott ads on MSNBC and other networks which arrogantly thumb their noses at women who have already expressed their anger at sexist remarks. Our anger is being ignored. We need to apply some pressure.
By the way, what does it take to get posted on here? I have tried numerous times and my comments never go through. What is the problem?
Shuster should be terminated on the spot. Why is what he said any less offensive, or less punishable by termination than what Don Imus said?
I'm sick and tired of the media's one sided coverage of the democratic candidates. MSNBC's minions have finally put me off to the point where I will not ever watch it again.
Its such a shame that people in higher "influences" power can just turn around and say they will boycott the cable network and half the country will listen to them. I don't think David Shuster made that statement to offend anyone. Sometimes we all just say something that comes out the wrong way and meant differently.
Come on how many of us, use to say when Bill Clinton was president. That he's wife was running the show, that she was the one Pimping for him. (Pimping in my eyes is) is taking over. How ever it was worded I don't think David was wrong.
Everyone is so sensitive these days. Suing or complaining over this, or that. What ever happened to freedom of speech. Isn't this what the USA is about! Or was?
Our freedom and rights! We are becoming such a communist country!
The further we are into the election, the more we are wondering whether or nor Obama is a real Democrat~{!*~}He is a big Reagan admirer, calling Reagan and the GOP the Party Of Ideas for the past 15 years; He attracts more Independent voters than traditional Dem voters; He is an outsider for Latino immigrants; We just don't know whom Hillary is running against, a Republican or a Democrat a honorable man or a hypocrite
How about Michelle Obama? Does she pimp out for her husband??
Does anyone think that Chris Mathews, Tucker, Joe, would ever use pimp out for Michelle Obama or Elizabeth Edwards.
I am disappointed in Keith Olberman for joining in the Anti Clinton and Pro Obama Mantar at the network. I have to commend him, at least he had the decency enough to disassociate himself for pimp-out comments. It would have been gutsy, if Keith would have selected Shuster as the worst person.. That would have gone a long way to restore some of my faith in him.
It would be in the best interest of HRC not to appear on MSNBC.
May be the time has come for some of these debates to be aired on FOX.
#1, since it’s an election shouldn’t we talk about the issues? What concerns us, what we want for ourselves, our children, our families, our environment, our security, our country? Wouldn’t we all be better off if elections and politics are not about attacking candidates and their families’ personalities but instead about the candidates’ stands on the issues that matters to us? I don’t think it’s ever alright to make a comment like the one Shuster made about someone’s daughter/son… even during elections. It’s great thing when your daughter stands and fights for you. That means she has some values. For the record, I’m not a Clinton supporter but I do think there needs to be some degree of civility. Where are our manners?
When you're "tanking" in the polls, there's no such thing as "bad" publicity; right, Hillary?
Imo, you're drawing undue attention to an ill-advised remark by a 3rd or 4th tier media hack, suggesting that your campaign is taking advantage of your daughter's family loyalty. This desperate attempt to draw attention to your own floundering campaign, risks even greater embarrassment for Chelsea, by giving that stupid remark (& Shuster) far more publicity than either deserve!
Here was a perfect opportunity (lost) for Hillary to demonstrate that she has any innate sensibility & skills for unifying and pacifying a deeply-divided electorate. Rather than acting like a "States-person" & rising above this pettiness, she shows us all that she can out-flank MSNBC, Shuster, et al, by being even more pettyÉ How small, how sad Ñ how unfortunate, that her own small-mindedness actually gives some credence to Shuster's gaff.
For my part, I've been delighted to watch the press coverage of Chelsea "on the stump" for her mom, and realizing that she's morphed from an awkward teen, into a polished, articulate young adult, who is credibly promoting her mother's candidacy. I'm quite certain that Chelsea can dispatch hecklers & detractors like Shuster, without the lioness rushing in to rescue & defend her cub; Hillary's over-reaction only serves to further demean Chelsea, by making it appear that she's incapable of defending herself!!!
;(
I love MSNBC. Wouldn't want it to change.
That is all this country needs. CLINTON in the White House
with more time on his hands. NOT!
Shuster's lame excuse of an apology, "I apologize to the Clinton family, the Clinton campaign, and all of you who were rightly offended," he said, lacks sincerity, depth of understanding of family /societal values. David Shuster and MSNBC are irresponsible in comment, commentary and content. Consider REPORTING News, not your OPINION.
I was much more annoyed by Chris Matthew's remark about Hillary than I was about what David Shuster said with regard to Chelsea.
Stating that someone is being "pimped out" is merely a phrase used in the business world or in casual conversation to mean that someone is being used. He did not mean it in a derogatory way that many have chosen to assume.
Could he have said the ..."Clintons have chosen to use Chelsea in some weird sort of way"? Sure. But he chose to use the word pimped and now everpyone is up in arms.
The Clintons are looking for sympathy from the public to help Hillary play the gender card and the flock is getting in line.
When Matthews stated that Hillary 's career had been made possible by Bill's philandering, it denegrated her worth and her abilities. That was far meaner and crueler than Shuster's comment and he wasn't suspended.
I guess you could all watch Fox Noise if you think they are more fair and balanced in their reporting - but then you'd have to be willing to throw away all good common sense and suspend reality and the hope that you'd be hearing something other than the GOP party line according to Roger Ailes' talking head puppets. Good luck.
What two faced reteric!!!
The media bashes people everyday and we are up in arms about a inappropriate comment made about Chelsea?
Hold the reporters to the fire for their constant abuse of decency, I AGREE.... but do it across the board. Free speech aside let personal opinion not be the clouding issue for the penchant the media has in inappropriately voicing their's.
When you're "tanking" in the polls, there's no such thing as "bad" publicity; right, Hillary?
Imo, you're drawing undue attention to an ill-advised remark by a 3rd or 4th tier media hack, suggesting that your campaign is taking advantage of your daughter's family loyalty. This desperate attempt to draw attention to your own floundering campaign, risks even greater embarrassment for Chelsea, by giving that stupid remark (& Shuster) far more publicity than either deserve!
Here was a perfect opportunity (lost) for Hillary to demonstrate that she has any innate sensibility & skills for unifying and pacifying a deeply-divided electorate. Rather than acting like a "States-person" & rising above this pettiness, she shows us all that she can out-flank MSNBC, Shuster, et al, by being even more pettyÉ How small, how sad Ñ how unfortunate, that her own small-mindedness actually gives some credence to Shuster's gaff.
For my part, I've been delighted to watch the press coverage of Chelsea "on the stump" for her mom, and realizing that she's morphed from an awkward teen, into a polished, articulate young adult, who is credibly promoting her mother's candidacy. I'm quite certain that Chelsea can dispatch hecklers & detractors like Shuster, without the lioness rushing in to rescue & defend her cub; Hillary's over-reaction only serves to further demean Chelsea, by making it appear that she's incapable of defending herself!!!
;(
What if Hillary put Monica up to doing Bill?
Wouldn't that explain her reactions?
Motive= Sympathy Vote
It is bad enough that most of the media has been overcritical of Hillary while failing to ask Obama enough tough questions or give him the same kind of scrutiny, but comments like this and the one by Chris Matthews take it to a whole new level of poor journalism.
The more I hear of crap like this, the more I repect Hillary (and Chelsea) for so gracefully putting up with it.
There are currently 10 female leaders in other countries in the world; Ireland, New Zealand, Finland, The Phillippines, Mozambique, Germany, Liberia, Chile, Switzerland, India. Sri Lanka has had 2 female presidents and 1 prime minister. This country of ours espouses the "rights of women" in other parts of the world. Yet we use the public airways to demean and belittle a woman running for president because her name is Clinton. I hear some of you not only condoning but applauding David Schuster's disgusting and I am suspecting, calculated remarks about Chelsea. Where is the outrage for the sexism that overflows at msnbc ? Does anyone remeber Imus??!!! He got fired. Racism may finally be on the wane but sexism lives on. Talk CHANGE/ Try A female US President !!!!
Language and the lack civility toward each other are some of the first signs of a nations decline.
Mass Media has enabled the population with the usage of questionable dialogue. I am all for the 1st amendment however, we have lost our sense of manners and good taste. We have main streamed once insulting words in to our everyday lexicon.
My grandfather would say, "Manners are the courtesy of kings and queens we should give them freely" and "Please...watch your mouth"
Language and the lack civility toward each other are some of the first signs of a nations decline.
Mass Media has enabled the population with the usage of questionable dialogue. I am all for the 1st amendment however, we have lost our sense of manners and good taste. We have main streamed once insulting words in to our everyday lexicon.
My grandfather would say, "Manners are the courtesy of kings and queens we should give them freely" and "Please...watch your mouth"
I think all of these comments are humerous. When you are in the political arena, everything is fair game. Shame on mom and dad for having thier daughter do their dirty work, and if daughter did it on her own, then she needs to grow a thick skin. As a Republican, I love reading all these comments. Not only are the Democrats full of bile when it comes to the opposing Democratic candidate, but the are full of bile when it comes to each other. Such nasty comments towards each other. By the way, did you know that the word "pimp" and "pimpin" are part of the vernacular in our public schools. Little boys and girls use it in everyday conversation. I would guess that shows such as Pimp my Ride and the low level of today's musical lyrics are part of what create a culture where the word pimp is not nearly as hateful as the Clintons would like us to think. Sex scandals in the White House don't further today's youth toward any other direction other than one where the word pimp is part of everyday conversation.
Protest today's gutter culture. Change things so words like pimp are not acceptable in everyday language. Try to be kind to one another and set a good example. Pray occasionally. Get out of the kitchen if you can't stand the heat.
Keep up the self-destruction of the Democratic party. I will keep reading these posts and comments and shaking my head in amazement as I welcome four years of President McCain.
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