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Clinton doesn't vow to go on beyond March 4

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor February 22, 2008 10:47 AM


The closing scene -- and Hillary Clinton's last words -- at the crucial debate Thursday night in Texas set pundits to opine that, just perhaps, Clinton is coming to terms with the fact that she's not going to win the Democratic nomination.

In appearances on the three broadcast network morning shows today, Clinton did little to rebut that interpretation. Asked directly whether she would soldier on, no matter what happens in the make-or-break primaries in Ohio and Texas on March 4, she refused to say.

"I don't make predictions," she said on NBC's "Today" show.

On "The Early Show" on CBS, however, she did deny that her closing remarks in the debate were a "valedictory" to her campaign, or that the fight was out of her.

To recap: After passing up several chances to go after Obama -- other than the plagiarism "change you can Xerox" line that did not go over well -- Clinton answered the final question, about a moment of crisis in her life.

"Well, I think everybody here knows I've lived through some crises and some challenging moments in my life," she replied, smiling, as the knowing crowd applauded. "And I am grateful for the support and the prayers of countless Americans.

"But people often ask me, 'How do you do it?' You know, 'How do you keep going?'," Clinton continued, reprising language from her much-dissected teary moment the day before the New Hampshire primary. "And I just have to shake my head in wonderment, because with all of the challenges that I've had, they are nothing compared to what I see happening in the lives of Americans every single day."

She then went on to emotionally describe a visit to an Army medical center in San Antonio, where she met disfigured and maimed Iraq war veterans -- a tour, coincidentally, she shared with John McCain, the likely Republican nominee.

"You know, the hits I've taken in life are nothing compared to what goes on every single day in the lives of people across our country," Clinton continued. "And I resolved at a very young age that I'd been blessed and that I was called by my faith and by my upbringing to do what I could to give others the same opportunities and blessings that I took for granted. That's what gets me up in the morning. That's what motivates me in this campaign."

More applause.

"And, you know, no matter what happens in this contest -- and I am honored, I am honored to be here with Barack Obama," she said, shaking his hand as the crowd cheered again and he patted her on the back. "I am absolutely honored,"

"Whatever happens, we're going to be fine," Clinton concluded. "You know, we have strong support from our families and our friends. I just hope that we'll be able to say the same thing about the American people, and that's what this election should be about."

The crowd came to its feet and applauded.

While several commentators heard something of a surrender, in the post-debate spin, her campaign sought to frame it as proving the case for her candidacy, even sending out a video of it. "What we saw in the final moments in that debate is why Hillary Clinton is the next President of the United States," spokesman Howard Wolfson said in a statement. "Her strength, her life experience, her compassion. She's tested and ready. It was the moment she retook the reins of this race and showed women and men why she is the best choice."

409 comments so far...
  1. Wow! I would've never have predicted that Hillary would have come remotely close to loosing the nomination and to see the Clinton machine get so befuddled by Obama is just plain surreal.

    Posted by Jeff February 22, 08 11:38 AM
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  1. na na na na, na na na na , hey hey hey, goodbye

    Posted by m February 22, 08 11:39 AM
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  1. Hillary Clinton finally admitted who the better candidate is and that she was "absolutely honored" to be on stage with him. It was certainly a refreshing "moment" in her campaign.

    Posted by Ron February 22, 08 11:40 AM
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  1. Maybe Hillary is being herself with that gracious comment about Senator Obama, and is pulling away from Bill's big ego demands that it is all about him. I think we should accept that she is indeed thinking of the Party and the fall election. Maybe she should be the VP choice.

    Posted by thomas cook February 22, 08 11:41 AM
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  1. yeah, to many health inssurance companies, men and African Americans are behind Obama. Hillary is too voiced and the public doesn't like that. The health inssurance companies probably give thousands of dollars to Obama, because they don't want Hillary plan. Plus, men still hate women and they will never vote for a woman president and what is left for Hillary? The women? well apperantly too many women watch Oprah and listen to her, obviously they willd o what Oprah tells them to do. So unfortunatly yes America is not ready for Hillary, let alone a woman president. We need 1000 years to pass before women get in power positions.

    Posted by anne-marie February 22, 08 11:41 AM
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  1. This campaign is far form over. The elctoral college is very close. Two major States were not counted. Florda and Michigan. Texas and Pennsyvanis have not been counted nor has Vermont, HRC IS THE BEST CANDIATE. HRC was not throwing in the tell. The above article is media spin. Additionaly with regard to the experience and zerox statment. Words do matter and Obama is certainly eloquent. However in my opinion he does lack subsatnce. Obama was elected to the Senate in 2004 and has spent-his words- three years running for the White House. I am sorry but that is conceited. I want my President to have lots of experience. It is also ironic that you speak of Ronald Regan. Ronald Regan was Republican! This is the Deomcrartic primary! Ronald Regans polices were horrible for this country trickle down economics did not work and resulted in huge budget deficits. He did make people feel good but his polices were a disaster. Do you know that Osama Bin Ladin was supported by the Regan Administration when he was battling the Russians. The fall of Russia was more luck than to Regans credit. The military spending that Ronald Regan did almost brought down the US as well as Russia. Obama is the same kind of empty suit. His actor like speeches make people feel good but he lacks depth of experience, policy knoweledge and integrity that I want in a President. The lifting of the govenor's words only emphasizes this point. I want a pResident who has more a year under his belt. Example he waffled about speaking to Cuban leaders. After he heard HRC great answer, he threw in that he would need an agenda before speaking to Cuba. Does he think that Castro's brother is going to say sure, we will grant freedom of the press and free travel becasue he put it in an agenda. Nice idea he fails to deal with the realities if the world and history. HRC is the person I want to be president because she has the depth of ideas and is a been there done that women!

    Posted by John hydler February 22, 08 11:42 AM
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  1. Her poor judgment in her campaign staff and budget she has wasted tells me . she's not ready from Day One, as she says she is. The campaign changed as it moved forward and she did not have the ability to change her stragedy. And that is something a political leader needs to do constantly as the landscape keeps changing.

    Posted by Janis Berman February 22, 08 11:43 AM
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  1. I am very troubled that the Obama campaign chose to attack her closing remarks as echoing John Edwards. I thought Obama just got done saying that kind of talk was silly season. Sounds like hypocritical season to me. For someone whose entire campaign is based on a DIFFERENT tone, to me it sounds like the exactly what they've been claiming to rise above. I hope Sen. Clinton wins Texas and Ohio and allows this conversation to continue so we don't end up with buyer's remorse if Sen. Obama isn't quite what he's being purported to be. Whoever we settle on, we'll have to live for 4 -- or 8 -- years.

    Posted by Lila February 22, 08 11:44 AM
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  1. Buh Bye Hillary.

    Posted by jim February 22, 08 11:44 AM
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  1. She will fight till the end! WE the American people realize that HILLARY is the only one that can lead our country out of the recession it's headed for. You need to really listen to this message again. What she is really saying is this, "get up and go vote for her if you want the USA of survive what we're up against." (my words, not hers)

    Posted by Cindie February 22, 08 11:45 AM
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  1. "She retook the reins of this race." LOL. Right...

    Posted by Bradley February 22, 08 11:45 AM
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  1. I think Hillary Clinton was literally throwing a "Hail Mary" pass with her closing statement. It was 4th down and inches and she was going for it. I applaud both candidates for their candidacy and hope that they would team up to take on the Republicans........

    Posted by Anthony Esp February 22, 08 11:46 AM
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  1. Playing on peoples emotions will not get her elected.....

    Posted by george owens jr February 22, 08 11:46 AM
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  1. Why don't you expose Hillary's grand moment as a plagiarism of John Edwards?

    Posted by Felicia Birnel February 22, 08 11:46 AM
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  1. She stole her closing directly from Edwards and her husband. She's a phony even when trying to be authentic.

    Posted by newday February 22, 08 11:48 AM
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  1. With the hay that Clinton made about plagiarism, shouldn't we report that Clinton's closing line was itself lifted from a John Edwards speech from a few months ago?

    Clinton said yesterday:
    "Whatever happens, we're going to be fine. You know, we have strong support from our families and our friends. I just hope that we'll be able to say the same thing about the American people, and that's what this election should be about."

    Edwards said previously:
    "What's not at stake are any of us. All of us are going to be just fine no matter what happens in this election. But what's at stake is whether America is going to be fine."

    Posted by Michael in Indiana February 22, 08 11:50 AM
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  1. I thought it sounded like a surrender...

    Posted by Brian Ward February 22, 08 11:50 AM
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  1. She will be the next President of the United States and rightfully so! She is qualified, strong, compassionate, and understands foreign policy! She is not talking about bombing Pakistan to try and look strong on military policy! She is not selling out Hispanics, or any other race, in Wisconsin! Her church supports not only all religions, but ALL races! She is not selling out her country.....SHE IS PROUD OF HER COUNTRY FROM THE FIRST DAY OF HER LIFE! And she will be our President that we can be proud of!

    Posted by PMC February 22, 08 11:50 AM
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  1. She without a doubt could go into a brokered convention if she wanted because Obama will not have enough delegates for the nomination, but the pressure from the Obama campaign and others will eventually prevail and force her to concede. If she were ahead by 80 or more delegates I am sure the Obama campaign would be under the same pressure and would have to drop out before the convention. I get the feeling after watching her final statements in the debate the she will probably concede after March 4 even if she wins Texas and Ohio unless she were to win convincingly and that doesn't look as if that will happen. On another note Florida and Michigan wanted to make a difference in this years political process. Well they managed to give the nomination the the person they voted overwhelmingly against. If Florida and Michigan had counted, Obama would be behind in delegates and could not catch up. So the people of Florida and Michigan spoke and their voices were not heard.

    Posted by Steve Wade February 22, 08 11:50 AM
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  1. http://youtube.com/watch?v=zAYItnI-lPo

    She stole her closing remarks from Edwards.

    Posted by Ryan February 22, 08 11:52 AM
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  1. What the crowd heard was a bit of Bill Clinton and John Edwards . Wolfson is one of the worst campaign advisors EVER ! She should have booted that guys butt after Iowa along with who ever makes the " financial " decisions . The wasted monies spent from her campaign , do not help her Presidential bid. It destroys it .

    Day one - doesnt work
    Experience -doesnt work
    Plagiarism- didnt work
    Solutions- not cutting it
    Delusional Obama Supporters - thats condescending

    Posted by soflindie February 22, 08 11:53 AM
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  1. SNOOZE,she's finished ,move on.

    Posted by jp February 22, 08 11:54 AM
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  1. clinton will not concede..clinton will lose texas and ohio..but..clinton is too..self centered..we are tired of all the lies..the do anything to win attitude..clinton was trying to sound like obama last night..but..clintons track record..says something completely different..we know who she is..and what we know..we just do not like..clinton has more negitives then positives..clinton should have dropped out of the race last night..instead clinton will try every dirty trick her and bill know..all the way to the dem. convention..

    Posted by tom February 22, 08 11:56 AM
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  1. hillary is a great women, but she folow the palls too much insead of folow herself or her istict.

    Posted by samir mousa February 22, 08 11:56 AM
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  1. I think your journalism/headline is very misleading. Ms. Clinton never said she did not plan to go on beyond March 4th. I love the way you journalists twist words that NEVER come out of people's mouths. It is not professional or pertinant to predict which way the election on March 4th will swing. This article headline is, in my opinion, a futile attempt to do just that.

    Posted by Sherry McGraw February 22, 08 11:56 AM
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  1. Can we please get over the accusations. All of the words spoken in the course of a long campaign it seems impossible not to echo the words of others who believe in a common cause.

    Posted by Headhuntermi February 22, 08 11:56 AM
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  1. So exactly what 'experience' does HRC have? Has she ever managed a company, run a business, run an organization? Are Barbara and Laura Bush, or Mrs. Jimmy Carter as equally qualified to be president as Hillary? Sheesh!

    Posted by carlos mgugure February 22, 08 11:57 AM
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  1. Makes me proud to know that one of the two people in this clip will be the next President of the United States. Either one will lead this country well - and boy would that be a change!!

    Posted by Gary Patton February 22, 08 11:57 AM
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  1. Obama will scew up the foreign policy of this country

    Posted by merakli February 22, 08 11:57 AM
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  1. Hilary couldn't manage her own life, the fact that she spins everything she says, how good a president could she be. She should stay home where she belongs and let the running of a country given to someone who is capable of doing it.

    Posted by Inez Segovia February 22, 08 11:57 AM
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  1. Obama will scew up the foreign policy of this country

    Posted by merakli February 22, 08 11:58 AM
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  1. Obama will scew up the foreign policy of this country

    Posted by merakli February 22, 08 11:58 AM
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  1. i dont think that hiliray cliton should not drop out of the race she gives obama and the other canidites comition and if she drops out that is proving every one right that women dont have what it takes to do somthing that men are know for doing

    Posted by heather February 22, 08 11:58 AM
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  1. Thank God she is out. I can stop planning for suicide now.

    Posted by john February 22, 08 11:58 AM
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  1. That remark shows a strong person with feelings NOT the cold robot you make her out to be. Something this country has lacked for 4 years then 4 more years was someone with feeling. We need that and I admire that in a politician!

    Posted by Paul February 22, 08 11:58 AM
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  1. I thought Obama and his fans where different, they don't go negative.

    I refused to be inspired by borrowe words & and no way I am voting for one time hit "I say no to Iraq war"!!

    Vote McCain, If HRC is out.

    Posted by Joe February 22, 08 11:59 AM
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  1. I think Hillary would make a great president. I was formerly from NY while she was Senator there. She helped NY so much with her political expertise. I am not giving up on her because we need a president that cares for the people, not one with false promises. You go Hillary!!!!!!!

    Posted by Janie February 22, 08 12:00 PM
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  1. I thought Obama and his fans where different, they don't go negative.

    I refused to be inspired by borrowe words & and no way I am voting for one time hit "I say no to Iraq war"!!

    Vote McCain, If HRC is out.

    Posted by Joe February 22, 08 12:00 PM
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  1. I thought Obama and his fans where different, they don't go negative.

    I refused to be inspired by borrowe words & and no way I am voting for one time hit "I say no to Iraq war"!!

    Vote McCain, If HRC is out.

    Posted by Joe February 22, 08 12:00 PM
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  1. I've said this before and I'll say it again...it is the absolutely hateful way in which barak obama supporters treat sen. clinton that has inspired me to NEVER vote for obama. It is the failure of his supporters to see and acknowledge that obama has taken his fair share of stabs and below the belt attacks on clinton, it is their utter failure to see how he continues to play the victim himself in may of his stump speeches, it is their failure to see that their nastiness and his nastiness is evidence that his rhetoric is empty, empty, empty, because no matter how much he claims that Americans want to see an end to the hateful and devisiveness of politics - they actually LOVE it...as is evident in many of the postings by Obama supporters on this site.

    Posted by DCitti February 22, 08 12:00 PM
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  1. Cindie - We're already IN a recession. A typical cyclical recession. Happens all the time. By the time the next president is elected we'll probably be out of it...we just don't know it until the quarter after we're out. Hillary is one of the few that CAN"T lead us out of a recession. She's a typical Tax and spend democrat. that is what is causing our fiscal problems. And don't think I'm a republican sitting here bashing Hillary, because she's Hillary (although I do think she's dishonest). She's part of a very bad congress that needs to be swept out Dems and republicans that spend too much and tax too much. If I ran my house like congress and the president run the country, I'd be in bankruptcy court or jail...go figure!

    Posted by glen tilling February 22, 08 12:00 PM
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  1. Cindie - We're already IN a recession. A typical cyclical recession. Happens all the time. By the time the next president is elected we'll probably be out of it...we just don't know it until the quarter after we're out. Hillary is one of the few that CAN"T lead us out of a recession. She's a typical Tax and spend democrat. that is what is causing our fiscal problems. And don't think I'm a republican sitting here bashing Hillary, because she's Hillary (although I do think she's dishonest). She's part of a very bad congress that needs to be swept out Dems and republicans that spend too much and tax too much. If I ran my house like congress and the president run the country, I'd be in bankruptcy court or jail...go figure!

    Posted by glen tilling February 22, 08 12:00 PM
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  1. c'mon, first black pres/female vp ticket! how could they lose?!

    Posted by Josh Hoover February 22, 08 12:01 PM
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  1. What are you anti Hillary people going to say when she wins? That the election was rigged? All of this talk is just that ... more talk. That's what blogs are for I guess. Obama is a fine man, decent, intelligent, a great speaker but he just doesn't have the experience that is necessary. It's like buying a car - do you want the fancy Jaguar with all the bells and whistles without thinking about the cost of the repairs and insurance or are you going to buy the reliable Volvo that drives well and rarely breaks down?

    I'll take the Volvo any day. Most of us can't afford the Jaguar even if we admire it and wish we could have it.

    Posted by Rebecca February 22, 08 12:01 PM
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  1. Plagiarism did someone say plagiarism, Hillary had John Edwards concesion speach almost word for word at the closing of the debate. Quote from her closing remarks
    "Whatever happens, we're going to be fine," Clinton concluded. "You know, we have strong support from our families and our friends. I just hope that we'll be able to say the same thing about the American people, and that's what this election should be about."
    This woman is a fraud.

    Posted by John R. Fellers February 22, 08 12:01 PM
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  1. Yeah ummmm. Don't let the ballot box hit you in the arse on the way out.

    Posted by Sammy Jankis February 22, 08 12:02 PM
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  1. GOOD RIDDENS i AM A REPUBLICAN AND PLAN TO VOTE FOR BARACK'
    ANOTHER .... FORGET MC CAIN....

    MOVE FOR CHANGE START WITH THE DO NOTHING IN CONGRESS AND THE SENATE

    Posted by steve di sano February 22, 08 12:02 PM
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  1. She is a complete phony and a FRAUD.

    Her entire campaign has been about corruption and FRAUD.

    Why have THREE campaign managers left her and went to work for Obama?

    Because she is a FRAUD, pure and simple.

    She can never, nor will she ever, be President of the U.S.A.

    Give it up, Rod-Ham, you ain't got the goods, and never did in the first place.

    This is over. It is now down to O'bama vs. McCain (two Irish guys, right?).

    I am afraid I will have to vote independent this time and go with McCain. He is a better democrat than either Hill-or-Ree or O'Bama.

    McCain will win, you'll see. I will vote for him, but next election, we dems BETTER have stronger candidates or we will be sunk.

    Posted by Libmeister February 22, 08 12:03 PM
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  1. I hope all you Obama Supports get the real thing,at least we know what
    Hillary can do for our country. She is so determined to get everyone
    healthcare. If Obama is so concerned being their for his children. When
    will he have time for them when he is President. Why haven't we seen or
    heard from Michele Obama since her GREAT STATEMENT. Why is she
    now so proud of our Country?

    HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT

    Posted by patricia February 22, 08 12:03 PM
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  1. I hope all you Obama Supports get the real thing,at least we know what
    Hillary can do for our country. She is so determined to get everyone
    healthcare. If Obama is so concerned being their for his children. When
    will he have time for them when he is President. Why haven't we seen or
    heard from Michele Obama since her GREAT STATEMENT. Why is she
    now so proud of our Country?

    HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT

    Posted by patricia February 22, 08 12:03 PM
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  1. Too little too late if you ask me. Is that how she is going to handle crisis in the future? Is she going to butt heads and gnash teeth to the point of failure only to fall back to feminine emotion when she has nothing else to loose? She may have given some a moment to rally around, but I believe that moment in and of itself is an empty vessel.

    Hillary Clinton has a confrontational leadership style that if given the position of authority in this country will only drive a bigger wedge through our society.

    All this talk about her experience and how she is ready, yet she is loosing in this campaign. For all of Clinton's experience she can't find an original position to unify a majority. Her campaign has been poorly managed from the begining. She claims to have 25+ years of experience, yet she only found her voice in 2008? The only time she won is when she managed to appeal to peoples emotions, and that was early in the campaign when Barrack was still mostly unknown.

    Barrack Obama's performance was superior in all accounts. He gave up no ground and provided adequate substance to squelch those who claim he is all rhetoric. Obama is what we need.

    Posted by John February 22, 08 12:03 PM
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  1. I'm an Obama supporter. Commenters are losing sight of the fact that all the analsysts predicted HRC had to go negative in this debate, which she largely avoided (but for the Xerox gaffe). To me, she made a decision that she was going to fight with dignity and not get into the gutter. Perhaps the real lesson in this campaign is that Obama has done well without going negative and by providing an uplifting message. The most powerful moments for HRC have been when she has gone off the script and shown an uplifting message. Mabye the American public is starting to break away from the entertainers on the radio right and Fox that push hate and fear to attract an audience.

    Posted by Mark Laubacher February 22, 08 12:03 PM
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  1. Unfortunately for Hillary, she's a Machiavellian who wants to be liked. It's not a winning combination.

    Posted by Nattie February 22, 08 12:03 PM
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  1. One Down One To Go .... Vote McCain!

    Posted by Zach February 22, 08 12:03 PM
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  1. No reason for her and "Caligula" to stay together anymore. Prediction: The Clintons part ways within a year!

    Posted by Ken Clark February 22, 08 12:04 PM
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  1. There she goes again.....falling back on the sympathy thing with her remarks re the crises and challanges in her life...hello Bill!

    Posted by Don R February 22, 08 12:05 PM
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  1. With Obama as President, Hillary as Secretary of Health, Edwards as Attorney General, Stiglitz back as the main economic adviser, Gore as Secretary of the Environment and Bill as Secretary of State . . . what a team! But where is America going to find a Secretary of Education who will take the country's poor public education system out of the pits?
    Posted by Gordon Dryden, New Zealand.

    Posted by Gordon Dryden February 22, 08 12:05 PM
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  1. Obama for president!!! Hillary should definitely stay as a part of the new democratic government, she has a lot of knowledge and can help Obama with all the new changes that will take place. What a breath of fresh air Obama is, way to go, and thankyou from us all!

    Posted by Mike February 22, 08 12:05 PM
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  1. She without a doubt could go into a brokered convention if she wanted because Obama will not have enough delegates for the nomination, but the pressure from the Obama campaign and others will eventually prevail and force her to concede. If she were ahead by 80 or more delegates I am sure the Obama campaign would be under the same pressure and would have to drop out before the convention. I get the feeling after watching her final statements in the debate that she will probably concede after March 4 even if she wins Texas and Ohio unless she were to win big.

    Posted by Steve Wade February 22, 08 12:06 PM
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  1. The only reason Obama is even in the election is due to the black population.
    Six black people i know, who never voted before in there lifes, who couldn't have cared less before have decided to vote because they have a black candidate. If i know six, just imagine, and the historic numbers of turnout at the poles proves this. It's a sad day in america, that people would vote or not vote, due to race or sex of the candidate, and not because of the issues. I wonder how many people are aware of Obama's bill to spend 880 billion on global poverty, not american poverty, globa.

    Posted by karol kennington February 22, 08 12:06 PM
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  1. The is no doubt that Senator Obama is incredibly bright and quick on his feet. However, I'm old enough to look beyond the glitz and glitter. As another commented, he's basically spent his entire (very short) political career preparing for this run. PLEASE folks, take a closer look at both candidates and make your decision on who will best lead our precious country. When you ask that question, ask yourself who will be the most effective in Washington, and who will be the best with foreign policy (incredibly important).

    In 8 years or so Senator Obama will be ready for the Presidency. However, let's give him a chance to prove himself over time, as Hillary has done over and over.

    Posted by Tim February 22, 08 12:06 PM
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  1. Bye Bye Hillary it was not good to know you. Everyone read the ook OUTRAGEOUS to find out what the Clintons are all about. Bye Bye Sweet Charlotte or I mean Hillary.

    Posted by RKT February 22, 08 12:06 PM
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  1. If the US is ready for a black man to be president, then why not a woman? I think Hillary Clinton is very smart and definitely her own person, even with Bill's big ego. All "good 'ole boys" have big egos. I was unsure when all this started how I would vote, because I vote for the person, not the party, but I cannot vote for John McCain. He is a loose cannon!! I will early vote and vote for Hillary Clinton, simply because of the way she conducts herself no matter where she is, and everyone makes slip ups when they are speaking in public. The media just picks too much. I like her more and more and if you really pay attention to her, she doesn't just say what you want to hear, but what you need to hear. She gets my vote!!

    Posted by Joy Bolding February 22, 08 12:07 PM
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  1. The First Black President thats good for black history month.

    Posted by Martel February 22, 08 12:07 PM
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  1. GOOD JOB HILLARY!!! It is obvious that Hillary mopped the floor with Obama last night, and the networks' refusal to admit that just shows how desperate they are to have Obama win the primary... THINK FOR YOURSELVES, AMERICA!!! CNN, ABC, and NBC want Obama in the final race so they'll be guaranteed a McCain win. The people of America are so of the most educated and intelligent in the world, and when Hillary sweeps Texas and Ohio, we'll see that no matter how hard the networks try, they can't FOX news our future.

    Posted by Charles Marshall February 22, 08 12:07 PM
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  1. Someone needs to tell the Hillary campaign that the law of the land and the tradition set by our founding father, George Washington, has never encouraged 'experience' as the foremost quality for a president of the United States. Two terms are enough for anyone. Let us finally bring the 'Bush-Clinton' era to a long needed much anticipated close.

    Posted by EJ February 22, 08 12:07 PM
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  1. Wow-- based on the misspellings and basic grammatical errors in these posts, it's easy to see how these two candidates are able to rouse the masses through lofty rhetoric and pie in the sky promises.

    People need to wake up and see all three of the candidates (inc. McCain) for what they are-- career politicians who will tell you whatever you want to hear to get elected.

    They do not give a damn about your standard of living. They want the power and the trappings of the highest office in the land. Wake up.

    Posted by Davis February 22, 08 12:08 PM
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  1. Wolfson should rebate his checks fast, he more delusional than Bush...

    Posted by Rob February 22, 08 12:08 PM
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  1. Obama supporters, what happened to the "SILLY SEASON IN POLITICS"? Oooh it isn't silly when Obama says it. Yup, Barack Obama is going be as good as a uniter as George Bush was for the past seven years.

    Posted by Billy February 22, 08 12:08 PM
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  1. Keep on struggling Hillary Clinton, I believe in you.
    A. A. Adamu from Nigeria

    Posted by Abdu A Adamu February 22, 08 12:09 PM
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  1. At this point my vote will be a write-in:

    "None of the abover"

    Posted by Flo Billings February 22, 08 12:10 PM
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  1. The Democratic race is faaaar from over! I hear too many haters saying good-bye. Only fools (& Republicans) believe that the Democratic Party will be able to push either Clinton or Obama out of the presidential race, without alienating their supporters. It's time to get our Party behind the DREAM TEAM; it's time to cut the bickering. Divided we fall; united we will win the race in November.
    "Yes we will! Yes we can!" Clinton&Obama '08 !!!

    Posted by Observer February 22, 08 12:10 PM
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  1. "She then went on to emotionally describe a visit to an Army medical center in San Antonio, where she met disfigured and maimed Iraq war veterans...."

    When Hillary Clinton had a chance to prevent the very maiming and disfigurement she was speaking of, she chose to authorize this war.

    Posted by Paul in Michigan February 22, 08 12:10 PM
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  1. Hillary was gracious in this debate and hope Obama doesn't fall in lobbyist trap in the White House, b'caz we as citizens need to hear your voice on change and progress that you promised us during the 4 year terms!! Dream is the 1st step, strategy for those dreams to come true is next and finally action!! Hope to see all of them from you. Good Luck.

    Posted by US Citizen February 22, 08 12:11 PM
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  1. the popularity contest is being won by obama for the moment. One idea that I see that got him there was the notion that he is the underdog and we love to cheer for the underdog. Perhaps Clinton might grab ahold of that role and try to ride it to presidancy. But without a changing of strategies or old tired rhetoric this may well be the beginning of the end for her.

    Posted by milez February 22, 08 12:11 PM
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  1. I don't know. I think her last words shows a different side to her. A side that shows it's not just about being president. It's truly about being a blessing for the American people. That's what we need. Someone who understands that if they are going to lead this great nation, they must be called by God to be a blessing for God's people.

    Posted by J February 22, 08 12:11 PM
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  1. For me the sad thing about Hillary is her Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde nature. While she has a kind, compassionate side (I think), there is this very real, divisive, manipulative side as well. That's the side that throws out quips like "change you can Xerox", and has a campaign which has attempted to use Kindergarten essays against an opponent.

    And, she has the additional problem of having a Frankenstein monster (Bill) who has been running amuck at times.

    The latest Fox poll shows that 47% of the public would *never* vote for Hillary. Obama's number is 34%. That's a huge difference. Hillary enters November greatly handicapped, and could very well lose in a year where a Democrat should be able to win easily. Obama could win in a landslide.

    And, far more important, an Obama Presidency offers the very real hope that some civility will be restored to Washington, special interest influence will be greatly reduced, and lawmakers start actually working together to get things done. Wouldn’t that be refreshing?

    For me the choice has never been more clear.

    Obama'08

    --George

    Posted by George John February 22, 08 12:12 PM
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  1. If Hillary doesn't win the nomination, I will be voting Republican for the first time. I first voted in 1976. Many of my family and friends feel the same way. I don't like McCain, but I like Obama even less.

    Posted by Amy February 22, 08 12:13 PM
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  1. She will quit by march 5th.

    Posted by a r February 22, 08 12:13 PM
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  1. Best NEWS I heard all day. Hillary Clinton quiting

    Posted by Obama supporter February 22, 08 12:13 PM
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  1. Could you really see Hillary going up against Foreign Male Leaders, give me a break - she's not Presidential material - frankly, I don't think any of them are, but she would be the last person on earth that I would vote for. I hope this is the end for her - bye bye Hillary ! Oh, and VP with Obama, it will never happen

    Posted by Louise February 22, 08 12:13 PM
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  1. I am amazed at the childish immature responses I am reading from the Obama supporters. His eloquent but empty words of change and buzz words are loudly echoed by the mindless fans falling at his feet.

    I have always said that I was a socialist with communistic leanings, but I may for the first time in my life be voteing for a Republican.

    Posted by Sandy Marmar February 22, 08 12:14 PM
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  1. good riddance

    close the door on the way out

    Posted by Jeff S February 22, 08 12:14 PM
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  1. If Hillary Clinton does not get the Democratic nomination, it will only because the biased media undermined the Democratic nomination process.

    If the Obama cult prevails, in the best interests of America...Vote McCain!

    Posted by crat3 February 22, 08 12:14 PM
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  1. She may as well give up. It's over. Last thing we need is Hillary Clinton as president. If she can't manage her own campaign for president, how the heck can she manage the country?

    We need something and someone new, not a different version of the same old party line. Give it up Hilary. It's over.

    Posted by Fraust February 22, 08 12:15 PM
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  1. Saynara senorita!!!

    Posted by Shannon Denny February 22, 08 12:15 PM
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  1. I don't think she was throwing in the towel. It sounded to me that she was giving herself another dimension. Over and over you hear that people are choosing based on character and style, she just changed hers up a bit.

    Posted by Cat February 22, 08 12:15 PM
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  1. After all Hillary's experience she fails to understand the economy. The recession has come because the people and the government spends too much not because people don't spend enough. Yet her solution is to give away more money in profligate spending. The banking crisis is partly the result of bad banking policies implemented by the administration of her husband and yet she thinks she can fix it now with the same bad strategies which created the problem then?

    She fails to rise above attacking Obama personally and fails to understand the implications of closing the border or of mandating health insurance if people can't pay for it to begin with. Then again from her cushy benefits package in the senate how could she be expected to understand the needs or fiscal concerns of our country. After all her salary is paid by borrowing money from China as our federal debt continues to mount.

    She failed to see that the war with Iraq was a bad idea from the beginning and voted for it. There was no credible evidence of weapons and even if there were a preemptive without world support makes no sense.

    I do hope for her own benefit and that of the country and her party that she drops out of the race so we can focus on people who have not already demonstrated their incompetence repeatedly over the long term of the so touted "experience"

    Posted by Jerone Anderson February 22, 08 12:15 PM
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  1. If you believe the Clinton campaign's comments saying Obama lacks substance, I encourage you to read his book Audacity of Hope. I like Hillary too, but I think she made too many low blows during this campaign and we cannot afford to bicker like that for this election. I used to think a Clinton/Obama ticket would be a sure winner, but now I'm not so sure. I think Obama has a much better chance of defeating McCain, and he's much more in touch with what it's like to be an average American working with average Americans. How can someone who pours 5 million dollars of their own money into their own campaign have any idea what it's like to be an average American? I even know a few conservative voters who have read Obama's book and decided he's the better candidate for President. We've never had a president like Obama, and I really hope he wins!

    Posted by Katie February 22, 08 12:15 PM
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  1. Let's talk in 4 years if Obama, this untried but "saintly" candidate, is elected and manages to alienate Congress, demonstrates to both the country and the world that despite his fine words he actually has NO experience dealing with national and world politics and, gets us into more trouble than we're in now. And will all those Oprah fans (that's just scary) and folks who donated $10 to his campaign really chose a man of color to run our nation? You think a woman is hard to elect? We'll see America's true feelings on election day.

    Perhaps we can forget Hillary, but McCain is coming. Watch. Everyone's going to look to good old white Grand Dad and serves the conservative line.

    Posted by Monica February 22, 08 12:15 PM
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  1. This is the second article I've seen like this in two days (the other one was from AP). Teary, Vasoline-on-the-lens portrait of a gracious, mature statesman yielding to the vox populi for the good of the party, the good of the country, and the good of the... sniff... children.

    As her chances diminish to zero, watch for more pieces like this. The mainstream media have another champion now, but that doesn't mean that they still don't have a soft spot for the Clintons. Watch in the coming weeks as we hear more of this drivel, intended to paint Hillary as something other than an ambitious self-serving empty suit. You head it here first.

    Posted by Arch Stanton February 22, 08 12:16 PM
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  1. It is obvious that Obama's cool and professional composure very much plays a role in posturing him for Presidency and leadership. In the World today these attributes will be very important as he deals with World Leaders.
    As oposed to Hillary's constant badgering and arrogance. Here is a woman who could have had the most important job in the Country, but instead , chose to behave like a litle brat in the school yard. She constantly appears self rightious and inflexible. Not a quality you want to see in our next Leader.
    But the sadest thing of all, is that she singlehandedly, have pushed the Women Issues of power way back into the Dark Ages.

    Posted by Dinorah Mateo February 22, 08 12:17 PM
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  1. Hillary's plan to require EVERY American to purchase Health Insurance whether we want to or not....sounds like socialism to me. Her plan is to create another massive bureaucracy that will run as efficiently as the IRS or the Post Office or Social Security. No one can argue that there is a Healthcare crisis; however the solution is not to force people to purchase health insurance but to create solutions that control costs, remove so many already mandated regulations. If her plan were to pass we might as well simply sign our paychecks over to the government, because in Hillary's world ONLY THE GOVERNMENT knows what is good for Americans. As one bumper sticker read, 'If you think health-care is expensive now, just wait till it is free' .....There is not one bureaucracy that is not overloaded with overpaid government workers, creating mounds of documents and endless regulations. Go Obama....8 Years of Billy and they couldn't make us energy independent nor solve the health-care crisis. As far as I am concerned, if she wants to point to her experience as co-president then she should take responsibility for not accomplishing the goals she now tells us she can tackle. Time to move on...let the Clinton's move on to the talking heads speaker circuit...GO BAMA..

    Posted by Lou V February 22, 08 12:17 PM
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  1. I love the car comparison made by Rebeca, mostly because of how absurd it is. How did Obama become a jaguar? Was it his community organzing in South Chicago? Was it his time as a State Senator in Illinois? Was it his two years in the Senate when he helped write or sponsor 37 bills? Or is it his ability to articulate a vision of increased participation in government by the public? Is it the close to 1,000,000 people who have donated to his campaign?

    Who knows?

    Posted by Paul February 22, 08 12:17 PM
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  1. You bloggers are good.

    Posted by Autofill February 22, 08 12:17 PM
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  1. It seems that once again the Democrats are shooting themselves in the foot. Obama is not the right choice at this time. He has no Foreign policy experience and no real grasp of how to run the country. Unfortunately, all the morons who bow down the the Opra machine will vote mindlessly just because she says so.

    If people just woke up for once and actually researched the issue sand people behind them, the democrats may actually be able to make the right decission and put Hillary up for nomination. Nominating Obama will secure a Republican win for the White House! I have been Republican all my life. This year I actually changed so I could vote for Hillary in the CA primary. That has got to say something!

    Needless to say, I have been Republican all of my life.

    Posted by John February 22, 08 12:18 PM
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  1. My question is as follows. Why do Hillary supporters find the need to use so many exclamation points and capital letters? It is really annoying having to read through all these unnecessary punctuation marks. Just scroll up through some of the previous comments and you will see what I mean. And don't get me started on "Go Hillary Go", or " You Go Girl" that seems to be at the end of every HRC supporter comment. I wonder why Barrack fans don't feel the need to do either of these things?

    Posted by Jeff February 22, 08 12:20 PM
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  1. "Maybe she should be the VP choice."

    Enough of that already. She is a partisan politician. She isn't going to change. The VP idea is a bad one, it runs counter to the idea of unity that Obama is promoting. The good people of NY seem to like her, so she can continue her selfless devotion to public service by serving them .

    Posted by hillaryis44 February 22, 08 12:21 PM
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  1. CINDI wrote: "She will fight till the end! WE the American people realize that HILLARY is the only one that can lead our country out of the recession it's headed for."
    WAKE UP! Hillary cannot lead us from anything. You must be mistaking her for her husband, she has done nothing for this country as a whole. She has not endorsed or created any bill to help this country as a whole. Barack has had more legislation pass over the President's desk than she has. She is a pro at "earmarking" other people's bills, only looking out for her own constituents in New York!
    The most important piont I would like to mention is: NO ONE PERSON CAN LEAD A COUNTRY LIKE THE USA INTO OR OUT OF A RECESSION BY THEMSELVES!!!! NOT Bill, Not the Bush's, not FDR, not JFK!!! Please take an economics class before you start rant about recessions!!!
    Here is another question for all Hillary supporters out there to ponder, How will Hillary be able to handle Muslim Leaders of the world??? They, & their religion do not really look to highly upon women!!!

    Posted by Freddy B. February 22, 08 12:21 PM
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  1. Florida and Michigan are NOT going to be counted, they violated rules, give up on that tired argument

    The Clinton is done, she cannot win, she has to win with a +30% margin to even get back into the race, she is over. The Democratic Party has soundly rejected her.

    Get ready to hear this every day for the next 8 years, President Obama.

    Posted by Rob February 22, 08 12:21 PM
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  1. To "anne-marie"
    Since when do men hate women?
    Geeze, please don't stereotype, it makes you look bad.
    I'm a "man" that works for a women’s medical clinic and also I fight for women’s rights, and my girlfriend loves me for it.
    Don't stereotype. It makes you sounds ignorant.

    Posted by Joe Heath February 22, 08 12:21 PM
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  1. Hey Hillary! Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya!

    Now if we can figure out how to get rid of the Muslim raised Obama and the almost Democrat turn-coat Mccane, we might actually have a good November.

    Huckaby isn't that great of a choice, but he is the best of the crowd that's left.

    We have no one worthy of the presidency even running anymore. (Never really did this go round!)

    Posted by Thepitt February 22, 08 12:21 PM
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  1. It will be a great day for the country when Sen. Clinton bows out of the presidential race and goes back to doing what she does well, being the senator from New York. This country doesn't need a Bush-Clinton co-dynasty. A McCain-Obama race would be a credit to America, cast issues in high relief, and however it turned out give us a president who at least offers the chance of bipartisan accomplishment. The Clintons should step back, account for their fabulous wealth (providing a donor list for the $500 million that's gone to the Clinton Foundation would be a start) and let somebody else live in the White House. There isn't going to be a coronation. The country doesn't need a woman in the White House to prove that tolerance remains a national ideal and sometime virtue. I doubt Obama's promise of change will get very far, but at least the guy's willing to give the future a chance.

    Posted by John Mac February 22, 08 12:21 PM
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  1. A couple of things...

    For Anne-Marie: What do you mean America is not ready for a woman President? We have a woman in the #3 position atm (Condi Rice) and by all accounts /no one/ is troubled by her gender. /Maybe/ America is not ready for Hillary as President, that in no way means that America is not ready for any woman to be President. I fully expect Condi Rice to be a serious contender post-McCain or post Obama, and I think she'll be a tough candidate to beat.

    For John Hyder: You seem to have missed the point entirely. First the electorial college has nothing to do with the Democratic Party nomination process. Second Michigan and Florida's votes were counted and their delegates were assigned based on their votes - they happen to each have zero delegates because their state parties broke the established national party rules, but the votes were counted in accordance with the established process. Finally, the entire point of the piece is that if Hillary doesn't win big (on the order of 65%+) in Ohio and Texas she's done - and it doesn't look like she's gonna hit that threshold, and she appears to realize it.

    Posted by Dan Hass February 22, 08 12:21 PM
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  1. I'm all for a woman president... At least we wouldn't have to pay her as much...

    Posted by Ruth February 22, 08 12:22 PM
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  1. Yes Obama is a great speaker, and has charisma, but that doesn't mean he has the experience to be the president. It's amazing how everyone is charmed by him and his speeaches, that people are so willing to overlook his plagirism. That is alarming! The kids who get expelled from college for plagirism, dont' get to say: but I just used the words from my best friend and his paper.....come on people, let's get real here...
    TKH

    Posted by TKH February 22, 08 12:22 PM
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  1. I have to give it to HRC for not going to the gutter. It must of been really hard given her families history of running smear campaigns.

    I can't imagine which is worse? Hillary as President or Bill as the "first man"? After all would we be able to hire any interns? LOL

    Posted by John February 22, 08 12:22 PM
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  1. If the Democrats want any chance at the White House, Clinton needs to drop out immediately. I live in a primarily Republican area, and you would be amazed at the number of people who passed up voting in the Rep. primary so that they could cast their vote against Clinton. The longer this drags on, the more split the party will be, and that plays right into McCain's hands (Bill Clinton-esque scandal or not)

    Posted by sw February 22, 08 12:22 PM
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  1. I am impressed by the variety of good thoughts in comments but when there are misspellings and off-phrasings, it dilutes the writer's intent...#6 is a good example ("throw in the TELL"??) Are we that illiterate as a country? I think so.

    Posted by lisa February 22, 08 12:23 PM
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  1. McCain is old and senile, and is probably mentally unstable, OBAMA!

    Posted by Festus McGee February 22, 08 12:23 PM
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  1. In my lifetime there has been an African American presidential candidate from a major party in every election (84, 88, 92, 96, 00, 04, 08) and only 1 woman, Hillary 08. The US is not ready for a female president and as soon as a viable male candidate appeared, everyone jumped ship. Indeed, if Hillary can't do it, it will be a long time before we see a female president because a male with Hillary's resume would have been the hands-down winner in this election. Hillary is an asset to the party and an influential leader. Nominee or not, she'll be fighting hard in November.

    Posted by blakeTX February 22, 08 12:23 PM
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  1. Why are we talking about Hilary? The real question is Obama. He had over 100 present votes while serving the people of Illinois. 100 times he could have taken a stand but refused. 100 times he could have been an advocate of change, but did nothing. He sidestepped everything from energy issues to partial birth abortion. This is not a man of change, this is old time politics at its best!
    We know Hilary is a fighter. You don't earn her reputation without taking a stand on important issues and fighting for them. We know she will fight for health care for all Americans, she did it before, and she will do it again when she is president of the United States.
    We know our economy will boom again. During the Clinton years we had the best economy at every level. I think she will apply the same economic principals as president Bill Clinton did.
    We know she will tackle the tough issues and not simply say' "Present". Hilary is a fighter for the American people and I believe she will continue to fight for us when she is President of the United States of America.

    Posted by John Gold February 22, 08 12:23 PM
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  1. HANG IN THERE HILLARY. YOU ARE GOING TO WIN TE XAS, OHIO AND PENNSYLVANIA AND SOME OTHER STATES AS WELL. ...JUST KEEP SHOWING YOUR HUMAN SIDE AND ALL THE IDEAS, PLANS AND REFORMS THAT YOU ARE CONTEMPLATING. WE ARE LISTENING TO YOU AND WANT YOU TO DO WELL. !!! OBAMA IS A STUFFED SUIT AND NOTHING MORE THAN A GLORIFIED SPEECH.

    Posted by JIMBO February 22, 08 12:23 PM
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  1. You can never make me trust Hillary for 1%. She is too too cunning. No woman in this world can stand for Monica's story. She is so scare to lost her title of "The first lady"in those days. In the debate she brought up John Edwards' name twice. That was what she to want to remind Edwards'people. During the debate I can't see she is not ready to be our President. She act no class at all. Talk again and again the same subject. Most of the products in this country were made in Chian. It was started in the Bill Clintan's time. Think what she can do? She cannot even take care of her husband. How can she take care of a Our Country.

    Posted by Yip Mei Zei February 22, 08 12:24 PM
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  1. For me it seemed like Hillary's last comment was just an avoidance of talking about herself. She didn't really seem to say much at all. ANYBODY can answer a question like "What is difficult for you?" with "What I experience is nothing compared to what goes through on a daily basis!".

    While it is true that the people she described do indeed suffer in their lives, I really don't see what her mentioning this let's us know about her. It tells us a lot about those people ..but what about her?

    What she said just did not seem sincere to me. It seemed like an inserted applause line to avoid talking about herself.

    Posted by RD February 22, 08 12:24 PM
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  1. I think and I know those who haven't voted that will vote say they will not vote for obama and go to mccain. I think that if obama gets the nominee and it looks as if he will then the republicans have got it again.

    Posted by von February 22, 08 12:24 PM
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  1. anne-marie from above is a man hater i have no problem voting for a woman president ,just not that deceitful lying woman she and the rest of the country get disrespected by Mr Clinton having an affair in the frick'in oval office and because she had higher plans she stays with him

    by-by Hillary

    Posted by russel worley February 22, 08 12:24 PM
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  1. to anne-marie -
    I think it's time you reevaluate your thinking. It's comments like yours that keep things stuck. Men do not hate women - get over it. That is an old stereotype and an insult to both women and men alike. Move on, we are in the 21st century.

    I voted for Obama NOT because of his motivational speaking, NOT because he's black. In fact, I am a proud feminist and I decided that it was degrading to pull the leaver for Clinton only because of her gender. It was a tough decision to come to. I choose to vote on the ISSUES and like it or not, Obama's stand on issues lined up better with my thinking than Clinton's. Stop looking at skin color or gender - start listening to the issues.

    Whoever gets the nomination I'm voting Democratic. Vote with your head America, not your heart!

    Posted by MMN February 22, 08 12:24 PM
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  1. nm.. OBAMA ForTheWin, McCain is such an too many bs idealist

    Posted by Zach February 22, 08 12:25 PM
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  1. "Whatever happens, we're going to be fine," Clinton concluded. "You know, we have strong support from our families and our friends. I just hope that we'll be able to say the same thing about the American people, and that's what this election should be about."

    OH THE IRONY. This is almost exactly what Edwards said just before he bowed out of the race. If this wasn't a conciliatory nod, considering she got booed for attacking Obama on the plagiarism thing, I don't know what is.

    Posted by Jason February 22, 08 12:25 PM
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  1. Obama is not the better candidate.

    Posted by Amber February 22, 08 12:25 PM
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  1. Unfortunately, Clinton...both of them, had caused enough problems in the White House to allow Bush to get in and look what he did...Now she wants to go back, take him with her and make things better??? How ridiculous of them to even think they will bring honesty, integrity, ethics to Washington. They aren't tinged, they are burned. I would have had more respect for her if she threw him out of the house, tossed his clothes on the Whitehouse lawn and changed the locks. That would be Presidential. It is not Presidential to become emotional and tear up talking about how her hair is done.

    Posted by Steve February 22, 08 12:26 PM
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  1. Hillary is a great lady she got so much to give to the americans people and to the world.She sure is the next President of USA and also the first woman to be President. Mrs Clinton show them you can do it!

    Posted by Marlen February 22, 08 12:26 PM
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  1. Obama is funded by Wall Street. More here:
    http://www.mickeyz.net

    Posted by cool observer February 22, 08 12:26 PM
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  1. 50 Cent and others have come to this conclusion

    "America is not ready for a black president, they'll kill him"

    I have to agree

    Posted by dpeters February 22, 08 12:26 PM
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  1. Unfortunately, Clinton...both of them, had caused enough problems in the White House to allow Bush to get in and look what he did...Now she wants to go back, take him with her and make things better??? How ridiculous of them to even think they will bring honesty, integrity, ethics to Washington. They aren't tinged, they are burned. I would have had more respect for her if she threw him out of the house, tossed his clothes on the Whitehouse lawn and changed the locks. That would be Presidential. It is not Presidential to become emotional and tear up talking about how her hair is done.

    Posted by Steve February 22, 08 12:26 PM
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  1. DEMOCRATS! Just be proud to vote for either Barrack OR Hillary in 2008. What an inspiration it has been to hear two candidates correctly utter complete sentences, minus redundancy, without READING!
    VOTE in 2008 for a president we can respect and be proud of!!!

    Posted by Karen February 22, 08 12:27 PM
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  1. DEMOCRATS! Just be proud to vote for either Barrack OR Hillary in 2008. What an inspiration it has been to hear two candidates correctly utter complete sentences, minus redundancy, without READING!
    VOTE in 2008 for a president we can respect and be proud of!!!

    Posted by Karen February 22, 08 12:27 PM
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  1. Lord have mercy on this country if either Hillary or Obama become president. We need a real leader and so far McCain is the lesser of the evils that are running.

    Posted by osdx45 February 22, 08 12:27 PM
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  1. [ ] Socialism
    [ ] Communism
    [ ] Fascism
    [X] Freedom

    Easy vote... Ron Paul 2008!

    Posted by Don February 22, 08 12:27 PM
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  1. While Hillary looked at him many times while he spoke, he was looking everywhere but at her when she spoke. He sounds more like a motivational speaker than a true presidential candidate.

    Posted by Thomas Gentry February 22, 08 12:28 PM
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  1. Let me say something about hypocrisy and plagiarism all in one. If Hillary actually USES another plagiarism remark to try and hurt Obama, we should all look at the similarities between her and THE ONLY REASON SHE IS ANYTHING, her husband. (Sigh, what bakery in Arkansas would she be working at if Bill was never president.)

    Clinton, 92: “The hits that I took in this election are nothing compared to the hits the people of this state and this country have been taking for a long time.”

    Hillary Clinton, yesterday night: “You know, the hits I’ve taken in life are nothing compared to what goes on every single day in the lives of people across our country."

    What strikes me, is that this concession of hers is a HUGE PART OF HER CAMPAIGN. Obama's "plagiarized" words were just out of one, or two speeches. When a candidate's MAJOR CONCESSION at a HUGE DEBATE is taken straight from her husband, that's BULLSHIT you can "xerox."

    Also, if you actually watched the debate yesterday, you would see that Hillary talks smack. Talks smack about Bush (which is ok), and Obama. What I find interesting is that Obama has never said one negative thing about his opponent. Hillary is at the point where she knows she's a worse candidate and needs to bring up crap like PLAGIARISM? Thats the "Silly Season of Politics" at its finest.

    Obama is a dream candidate. No one could have asked for anyone better. Hillary, with her fake plastic smile, has big problems coming her way.


    Posted by Brian Labadie February 22, 08 12:28 PM
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  1. We can only hope that she will show the good grace to throw her full support behind Obama not only in the coming campaign but during his presidency. The job ahead of him is daunting and she is, for all her faults, a talented and experienced person. If she uses those attributes as a staunch ally of his she will be doing far more to help us all achieve the American dream than she could ever do as President.

    Posted by david dial February 22, 08 12:28 PM
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  1. See ya Hillary.... thank goodness yer going!!

    Here's your hat and let's hurry!

    Posted by Callie February 22, 08 12:28 PM
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  1. Obama's empty rhetoric combined with Oprah's money manipulation of the media is pathetic. What does it take for Americans to realize that voting for a candidate with no experience just because his racial background is currently in vogue is brainless and disastrous. Wake up America! Our foreign adversaries are not interested in how diversity minded we are; they are snickering over the possibility of an inexperienced administration headed by an ex drug abuser and a talk show queen. Maybe Obama and Oprah can invite Osama, Kim Jong Il, and Putin on the show and donate the proceeds to African nations while the USA disintegrates.

    Posted by Amy Rogers February 22, 08 12:28 PM
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  1. Lord have mercy on this country if either Hillary or Obama become president. We need a real leader and so far McCain is the lesser of the evils that are running.

    Posted by osdx45 February 22, 08 12:28 PM
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  1. I AM SURPRISED THAT HIILARY DID NOT RESORT TO SHEDDING A TEAR
    ON HER LAST COMMENT. BOOHOOO,, SEN CLINTON IS A VERY CALCULATED PERSON, CROCODILE TEARS. SEN HILLARY CLINTON FAILED TO GIVE SUBSTANCE IN THE DETAIL OF HOW SHE WOULD GOV'T PRGRAMS,WHERE
    SEN OBAMA WENT MORE IN DEPTH DURING THIS LAST DEBATE. SENATOR
    CLINTON KEPT TALKING ABOUT HER EXPERIENCE , RESIDING HER RESUME OVER AND OVER AGAIN. i AM A REPUBLICAN,, CONSERVATIVE, BUT EVEN I THINK AT TIMES,, WE HAVE PLENTY OF EXPERIENCE IN THE WHITE HOUSE
    PRESENTLY AND LOOK WHAT A MESS WE HAVE ON OUR HANDS, I AM AT
    THE VERGE OF GIVING SENATOR OBAMA A CHANCE., NOT BECAUSE HE IS VERY POPULAR BECAUSE THIS DEMOCRATIC RACE LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING OUT OF AMERICAN IDOL,, BUT TO GIVE SOMEONE ELSE WITH A DIFFERENT FRAME OF MIND A CHANCE TO DO SOMETHING, I DISAGREE WHE SEN OBAMA ON THE IMAGRATION ISSUES, BUT THEN YOUR NEVER GOING TO FIND SOMEONE THAT AGREES 100% WITH YOUR VIEWS. I DO AGREE HE REALLY WANTS TO BE FOR THE PEOPLE, AND WANTS TO MAKE CHANGES, ALTHOUGH WASHINGTON IS A TOUGH TOWN(POLITICALY). THE REPUBLICANS HAD NO INTENSION TO LOOK OUT FOR THE LITTLE GUY, MUCH LESS AMERICAS VETERANS. IF I WERE TO VOTE TODAY MY VOTE MIGHT GO TO SENATOR OBAMA. BUT WE ARE STILL SEVERAL MONTHS AWAY FROM NOVEMBER, LETS LET EVERYTHING RUN ITS COURSE. ITS IRONIC THAT AS I WRITE THIS COMMENTARY I AM WAITING TO THE END OF MY WORK DAY TO FIND OUT IF I STILL HAVE A JOB COME MONDAY, MY COMPANY IS EXPERIENCING SEVERE FINNACIAL HARDSHIP, MY LAST WORK PAYCHECK I DEPOSITED BOUNCED LIKE A SUPER BALL, THE COMPANY I WORK FOR HAD TO TAKE OUT A BANK LOAN TO COVER THE PAYCHECKS. AND ITS NOT JUST
    THE COMPANY I WORK FOR, THIS IS THE SITUATION ACROSS AMERICA, CURRENT ADMINISTRATION STATES WE MIGHT BE AT THE BEGINNING OF A RECESION, NEWS FLASH!!!!! WEVE BEEN IN A RECESION FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW SIGNING OFF , WALTER

    Posted by WALTER ROSICH February 22, 08 12:28 PM
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  1. Bye Bye Hill!

    For all you Hillary supporters out there... do you really believe she's spent the last 35 years working for the "people"??? Instead of blindly following what SHE says, do some of your own research!

    What Hillary brings to the table... that Obama can't possibly bring… is all that BAGGAGE!

    The Clinton’s had their chance. However, the past is the past and CHANGE is in the air!

    Go Obama!!

    Posted by BC February 22, 08 12:28 PM
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  1. Doesn't matter if we vote for either party, they both say what they think we want to hear and do as they please in Washington. How many of you out there have the same benefits as our politicians. Time for a change. Unite and change the process.

    Posted by Robert February 22, 08 12:28 PM
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  1. Come on Clintonians, follow your leader and admit that it is over. She can't put the kind of landslide victory to squash Obama anymore. She probably will win, but will be Pyrrhic victory. She will burn all her last efforts and won't be able to take on Obama's advantage as he won more states, and the Party's elders are all switching to his side now. She is a survivor. And she will survive again.
    So, she just shows the kind of fantastic leader she is: she knows that she is going to lose, but November is more important, so she won't give the GOP more ammunition to hit Obama. She will stand by his side as he is the Party's choice, and she will plan her future. She is not dead, in 8 years she can run for President again, and she knows that. So now she is a Obama girl, and will survive.

    Posted by John D February 22, 08 12:28 PM
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  1. Hillary, I voted for you, and I am going to vote for you to be the next President!

    Posted by Frank February 22, 08 12:29 PM
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  1. No matter who gets elected, they will not be respected and will be blamed for the mess of the country for years to come. They will have eight years to fix in four. People will get impatient, and then vote for someone else when the first term is over. Republicans have proved that they are easily programmed, so, I have no doubt that it will be anything but a Republican in office for a long time.

    So, when Barack wins, Hillary will then come back for eight years. I want her to be President, just not yet. If she gets the balls to go for being VP, that would work for now.

    Posted by FuckYouBush.com February 22, 08 12:29 PM
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  1. I would like to appoligize for some of the things i have said over the last couple of weeks. It was because i felt so deeply about where we need to go as a country. I have supported Barack from the beguinning for almost two years now, i do belive he is the future, that he will bring great things to me and the rest of the middle class. I have to say Hillry Clinton really showed me something last night and i totally changed how i will look at her. She is truely a great lady and a class person. I'm Still voting for the best canidate Barack, but Hillary i will remeber you in a much different light then i did before last night. Our country and all democrats have been lucky enough to participate in the greatest election campaign of all time. God Bless this great nation. Barack despite what I have said before I think they're should be a place in our government for such a passionet women. Probably a high cabinet post, maybe Sec. of State, I wanted that for Biden but I really think she is worthy. Barack Obama/John Edwards 08 its going to be great.

    Posted by John February 22, 08 12:29 PM
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  1. No matter who gets elected, they will not be respected and will be blamed for the mess of the country for years to come. They will have eight years to fix in four. People will get impatient, and then vote for someone else when the first term is over. Republicans have proved that they are easily programmed, so, I have no doubt that it will be anything but a Republican in office for a long time.

    So, when Barack wins, Hillary will then come back for eight years. I want her to be President, just not yet. If she gets the balls to go for being VP, that would work for now.

    Posted by FuckYouBush.com February 22, 08 12:29 PM
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  1. If Hillary doesn't win the nomination, I will vote Republican for the first time in my adult life. Many of my friends who are pro-Hillary will also vote for McCain rather than vote for Obama. I don't like McCain, but I like Obama even less. No matter how he tries to spin it, he doesn't have the experience.

    Posted by amy0406 February 22, 08 12:29 PM
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  1. #29 - "Obama will screw up the foreign policy of this country"

    No offense to the developmentally challenged, but are you retarded?

    Given the current state of our foreign policy, it not possible to "screw it up."

    Posted by Brad February 22, 08 12:29 PM
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  1. 1) Recession: predicted every time the Administration changes over. See "self-fulfilling prophecy." (Real reason: everyone with a checkbook holds onto their money to see what the next Administration is going to do. After the dust settles and nothing changes, we get back to business.)
    2) Mandatory health care: are you kidding? My own mother has never had it and you would have to drag her kicking and screaming into a doctor's office. Do you know how many more crazies there are out there who fear and loathe the medical profession? I have at least six employees for whom we provide health insurance and don't have the faintest idea who or where their primary physicians are. The only time they think about health care is when they're bleeding or have fallen out of their cars half-drunk and broken their leg. Good grief; just try and make them care about their own health, I dare you.
    3) Foreign policy: Policy which is foreign to current candidates. Stock up on water.
    4) Taxes: OMG, like, don't the rich people have all that money? Can't we, like, have some of it? Dude, like, why not?
    5) Immigration: If I'm sitting in a mud hut somewhere south of the Rio Grande and I'm looking at my kids knowing that if I can make it north and get them a decent life, why shouldn't I take a shot at it? The next time I hear about standing in line to become a citizen I'm going to blow lunch. Why should it take 8-10 years to process citizenship? By the time that process is complete, my kids have already grown and what would be the point? The answer is to reform INS (or whatever they call it this week). Secret hint: if you want people to obey laws, you have to make it possible and attractive to follow them.

    Note to self: stop paying attention to current Presidential campaign;wait til November, hold nose and vote McCain.

    Posted by MScholtz February 22, 08 12:29 PM
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  1. DEMOCRATS! Just be proud to vote for either Barrack OR Hillary in 2008. What an inspiration it has been to hear two candidates correctly utter complete sentences, minus redundancy, without READING!
    VOTE in 2008 for a president we can respect and be proud of!!!

    Posted by Karen February 22, 08 12:29 PM
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  1. Hey John Hydler:

    A few things:
    1. The Electoral College has nothing to do with the nomination process. That's the general election. You’re thinking of pledged and super delegates and I have bad news for you: Clinton will need to win massive, double-digit victories in upcoming contests to even begin to erase her current delegate deficit because they are assigned proportionally. Currently, polls show them tied in TX and within 7 points in OH. Sorry, there’s going to be no blowout.

    2. On your statement that HRC is the best candidate: Ok, let’s give her credit and assume she was co-president for eight years. Let’s list some of her accomplishments:
    a. Health care reform. FAILURE.
    b. The shootout at Waco, Texas, led by her choice for Attorney General, Janet Reno. FAILURE.
    c. The 1993 al Qaeda bombing of the World Trade Center that left 7 Americans dead. No visit to the site by Bill or Hill and no U.S. retaliatory response. FAILURE.
    d. The 1998 al Qaeda bombing of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. No U.S. retaliatory response. FAILURE.
    e. Or biggest failure of all -- The CIA claiming they had bin Laden in their crosshairs multiple times, but Bill or Hill refusing to pull the trigger. FAILURE.

    Ok, I’ll throw all of these blunders out if you can name one piece of landmark legislations that’s passed that has her name on since she arrived in the senate a mere 4 years before Obama.

    3. Yes, it’s well known that the US armed and supported Afghanistan. And it was during a period called the Soviet-Afghan War. The idea was behind arming them was simple: at the time, the USSR was considered a major threat to the US. Consequently, the US armed and financed the Taliban to drive the Soviets out of Afghanistan to prevent the spread of communism. And the fall of Russia had nothing to do with luck.

    4. Finally, were you drunk when you sat down and wrote this piece of garbage?

    Posted by Brendan February 22, 08 12:30 PM
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  1. The world outside of the democratic party nomination and outside of America is a tough one. Hillary showed last night that she is more capable and better prepared to take on that world than Obama is. She can be tough and very practical when needed and at the same time she understands the real pain of the people. I have no doubt she will make a better president than Mr. Clinton.

    Posted by Jay February 22, 08 12:30 PM
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  1. To "DCitti"
    Obama is far more classly than Clinton could ever be. Prove your claim that Obama was hitting below the belt. Clinton has been the one that has played dirty in this campaign not Obama. Prove your claim by stating supposed attacks by Obama towards Clinton. Prove it, I dare you.

    Posted by Joe Heath February 22, 08 12:30 PM
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  1. To "DCitti"
    Obama is far more classly than Clinton could ever be. Prove your claim that Obama was hitting below the belt. Clinton has been the one that has played dirty in this campaign not Obama. Prove your claim by stating supposed attacks by Obama towards Clinton. Prove it, I dare you.

    Posted by Joe Heath February 22, 08 12:30 PM
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  1. Obama has "Change" and confidence behind him, and new voice. Ever watch the news? Hillary says the same things over and over.

    Posted by Nico February 22, 08 12:30 PM
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  1. Hillary would not be a good president.
    She is not authentic.
    Several years of being the first lady, a dignified position, is not relevant experience to be the president.
    Hillary would not beat McCain.
    Obama is a change that we need, he will create change that we need.

    Posted by Jane T February 22, 08 12:30 PM
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  1. For the person who said that HRC lacked business experience, a former member of the board of WalMart cannot be classified as lacking business experience by any definition.

    She won in NH by letting herself shine through, but then lost that afterwards. A pity, as she is a strong canidate. Obama, however, has an edge with his youth, energy, and rhetorical capabilities. He comes across as a Statesman, rather than a Politician, and in this day and age image is everything. I remember early interviews with Obama in this race, and he has constantly delivered, well, consistancy. He is also an Illinois Democrat through and through, which means he knows that in the end he has to lead, but he needs the best team possible to work with him. With him, I foresee a motley crew of a cabinet, chosen not for political favor but for focused skill. And yes, I see HRC, Edwards and even Richardson, Biden and Kucinich as being key components of his cabinet.

    While I would love an HRC presidency (I've met her in person back in '94, keep my picture shaking her hand hanging in my room) I would love an Obama presidency just as much. I see a lot of potential, power, and Statesmanship from Obama, something that has lacked in presidential canidates since (the first) Roosevelt.

    Posted by Nate Downes February 22, 08 12:30 PM
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  1. She will do well in Texas, Ohio, Penn, RI - and no amount of media bashing can move her base of supporters. We are not on a "hope" high - we have slogged through the years along with her. Barack Obama is a bamboozler and a media creation. He will never last in the general election.

    Hillary Clinton 2008

    Posted by Carl February 22, 08 12:30 PM
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  1. To the guy that says Obama will mess up foreign affairs of this country. Do you honestly believe that we are on top right now? We are rock bottom when Americans abroad can’t sing out the Nation Anthem at a public sporting event or feel fear of even saying they are Americans. Obama will be starting from the bottom working his way up. You can get any lower than that. The bottom line is Obama will beat McCain, Hillary can't most Democratic insiders know that. Hillary did better than I thought she would, but when its 4th and 1 on the 1yard line you don’t pass you RUN the ball!!!

    Posted by Phil February 22, 08 12:30 PM
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  1. "She's a typical Tax and spend democrat. that is what is causing our fiscal problems."

    Better a tax-and-spend Dem than a cut-and-spend Repub, because at least with the Dem, you have the chance of balancing the budget and not passing off debt to your kids and grandkids.

    Posted by SenorPlaid February 22, 08 12:31 PM
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  1. Interesting that the accuser finishes up her best moment with a takeout from Edwards' speech.
    Still, I accept her near-concession speech and look forward to her senate performance the next twenty years.

    Posted by Richard P. McDonough February 22, 08 12:31 PM
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  1. I can't wait for Obama to get elected. Free health care, free college, free preschool, free groceries. And if you can't pay your mortgage, don't worry, the government will pay for that too. Just increase taxes on business and require them to be unionized so workers can get paid five times what they are worth (it helped Detroit after all).

    Posted by Dan Rather February 22, 08 12:31 PM
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  1. Ironically Hilary lost because of Bush and the Iraq curse, people want dramatic change.

    Posted by Jack February 22, 08 12:31 PM
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  1. I voted for Bill and was inclined to look very favorably at her campaign but she started loosing me with her arrogant approach.She seem to believe too much in her advisers call for her to behave as if she already had it in the bag or entitled to the presidency and everything else was just icing the cake.The other issue that lost me completely was her decision to play the gender/race card.I am a black male and so obviously has nothing in common with her.When tried to pit Blacks against Hispanics on the immigration issue I resolved to vote for McCain even if she wins the Dem nomination.Hillary need to understand that it takes more than brains to win peoples heart.Each time I watch and listen to her I can not shake this strange suspicion that she is not to be trusted .

    Posted by P.Hagan February 22, 08 12:32 PM
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  1. I find the complete lack of substance to Hillary's competitor astounding not the fact that she can be magnanimous at this stage of the primary. Obama's supporters are incredibly naive if they think she has been tough on him.
    If he is the Democratic nominee then he is going to face a gauntlet of hateful Republican vitriol like this country has never seen since probably the 1860's.
    John McCain is going to pander to the far right in this country as if they were all graduates of Bob Jones University and set back and take it all in. So, his supporters better being looking for some substance now because if they do not there will be no time for it in the general election, he will be too busy responding to the attacks that are being prepared for him as we speak.

    Posted by Jonny Bb February 22, 08 12:32 PM
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  1. We are lucky to have her as a candidate and her comments last night showed us what a classy person she is.

    Posted by MD Baumann February 22, 08 12:32 PM
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  1. She might appeal to more men if she would lose that "nagging wife/mother-in law tone" in her voice. Also that dreaded "nails on a chalkboard" shrieking laugh is just plain awful. She sounds like the wicked witch of the west. Obama comes across as a level-headed and highly-intelligent individual with a very strong presence, that's why he's kicking her butt. She's far too emotional and extremely annoying. Also it might help her campaign if she actually looked like a woman.

    Posted by CM February 22, 08 12:32 PM
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  1. poor judgment? where did obama's judgment go when he was using cocaine?
    people are so blind not to see how fake obama is-- duped? yes of course, you guys all are. what do we know exactly about obama? how do we know he's not just one of those politicians? the truth is, you have to be and you must have been to get to where he is and to where he wants to be. he's either super naive or too good at misleading people.

    Posted by alien February 22, 08 12:32 PM
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  1. I will accept any democrat or republican as president now, but not clinton,she is not honest, her smiles are faked,she do not care for others.Do you remenber her and her husband in the White House,the bedrooms for rich people,Do you remenber,I HAVE NEVER HAVE SEXUALS RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMAN, and I wander how a wife of so many years was not able to realize that her husband was cheating with other women for years. I do not believe her at all.

    Posted by Manuel A Castillo February 22, 08 12:32 PM
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  1. As the American public goes, you HRC supporters are shameful in your language and utter naivety. Get a grip. Hillary never came to help the American people. Stop trying to strap narratives reiterated from the news media into your comments. Obama is true. If you can't look into his eyes and see what he stands for, but then somehow look at Hillary and not call bullshit, then you deserve four more years of Bush.

    Posted by SinAmos February 22, 08 12:33 PM
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  1. I think that Hillary's closing remarks were very powerful and genuine. She more or less came to the realization that she must win Texas and Ohio or it's over for her. She really put up a good fight, but I think Obama basically got a free ride throughout this entire campaign. He is a good speaker and tells people what they want to hear, without really any substance behind it. This really frustrates Hillary, because she (and most people) know for a fact that she is the most qualified person to lead this country. People look past her entire record in public life, and just discredit her because they don't like her as a person. Obama has the charisma; Hillary has experience, and it seems like charisma will win over experience and that is sad. I wish Hillary all the best.

    Posted by Alex February 22, 08 12:33 PM
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  1. Be honest, I like them both.

    Posted by Canna February 22, 08 12:33 PM
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  1. Is that the smell of cookies coming from Hillary's kitchen? Socialism will not make this country or any country great. The welfare state can and will effectively distroy us.

    Posted by Howell February 22, 08 12:33 PM
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  1. WHY ARE THE OBAMA PEOPLE ON THIS COMMENT BOARD SO HATEFUL???? I THOUGHT THE POINT WAS TO BRING US TO A NEW KIND OF POLITICS! Turns out it was just a sales pitch.

    What a disappointment.... I'm going to support Clinton -- at least I can be sure of her ability.

    Posted by Lily February 22, 08 12:33 PM
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  1. Interesting that the accuser finishes up her best moment with a takeout from Edwards' speech.
    Still, I accept her near-concession speech and look forward to her senate performance the next twenty years.

    Posted by Richard P. McDonough February 22, 08 12:33 PM
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  1. Don't count Clinton out. I voted early today in a very republican suburb. The line was long (45 minute wait) and I heard many say that last night they decided on Clinton and several of them said they were voting in a Democratic primary for the first time in many years. In Texas we just ask for a Democratic or Republican voting ticket when we arrive. The polls are calling registered Democrats. They aren't calling all the registered republicans like myself that are now voting in the Democratic primary.

    Posted by Texas Voter February 22, 08 12:34 PM
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  1. In 1988 Lenora Fulani ran as an independent and was the first black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states.

    Posted by khefer February 22, 08 12:34 PM
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  1. Senator Obama supporters in the great state of Texas, dont forget to take your neighbors and VOTE EARLY!!!!
    Admiring the best politician who has come our way in SO LONG is not enough.
    LETS GET OUT THE VOTE!!
    THANKS TEXAS!!

    Posted by CINDY WILLIAMS February 22, 08 12:34 PM
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  1. HIllary is an awesome woman!! She is strong, humaine, and mature. Obama is a immature narcisissist! He is an ego maniac and a phoney

    Posted by steve February 22, 08 12:34 PM
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  1. Wow. Some of you people are going to help elect the next President of the United States. THAT'S scary.

    Posted by Pat February 22, 08 12:35 PM
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  1. Hillary is a power hungry crook that would say or do anything to get elected. Thank god the American people realize that.

    Posted by Doug Gibbons February 22, 08 12:36 PM
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  1. I think it is all very amusing what the Democrats have done to themselves! They never should have let a woman and a black man run for the nomination at the same time!

    Liberals are totally invested in identity politics. This has left liberals having to decide if they prefer to be racist or sexist!

    I think it is quite amusing!

    Posted by Heather February 22, 08 12:37 PM
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  1. Go HILLARY

    We in Florida think you are the best candidate for the US. We beileve in you and your experience, and we will support you till the end....!!!
    I think yesterday's statment was great, very INTELLIGENT...

    Go for it...Hillary!

    Posted by Anna W Leuffer February 22, 08 12:37 PM
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  1. The comments here from the Hillary fans are kind of sad and amusing in an "isn't that cute" kind of way. I watched the debate, and Hillary got creamed. There is no stopping the Obama locomotive. Her last statement was powerful, touching, authentic (imo), and absolutely the tipping point in this campaign. She's done. She knows it. But sadly for her supporters, they're so used to being in the fight, they don't know how else to respond than to pretend that she just "took the reigns."

    Posted by Jerry Rivers February 22, 08 12:37 PM
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  1. What is everyone's thoughts on an Obama/Hillary ticket? We need to focus on beating the GOP, not beating up on each other (those of us voting Democrat this year).

    Posted by Patrick February 22, 08 12:38 PM
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  1. Why is there so many Hillary haters around?? Seems like that is the trendy thing to do.

    Posted by roy February 22, 08 12:38 PM
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  1. Its funny to hear these little scientologists-in-training in the comments here emhatically state what will be, like the little choo-choo train that could trying to manifest itself up a hill. Let's face it, America, our sense of reality is collapsing on itself and our little tricks aren't working anymore. All bets are off.

    Posted by JayLikeBirds February 22, 08 12:38 PM
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  1. I really hope America comes to its senses. Hillary at least puts it all up front. I think we need Bit*h Incharge. We need to fix this global problem.
    I dont think Obama is capable of doing it. He seems to pedal what the public wants. He has a dream. hes young hes hip its like we are putting him up to it... I hope we dont end up with another Bush problem...a president whos useless for another 4 years... cause you know something... we ain't gonna have a 2 pennies to rub together after another four years. We will have sold our country off to the highest bidder... probably on ebay.

    Another thing. SHAME on the media for making Obama this wonderful new product that everyone has to have. So when your journalist a** doesnt have a job in a few years... remember what youve written.

    Posted by Scott Duval February 22, 08 12:38 PM
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  1. "The crowd came to its feet and applauded."

    Nice choice of words. They came to their feet because Clinton's comments came at the end of the debate. But you knew that...

    Posted by Mark F February 22, 08 12:38 PM
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  1. She should have thought of the consequences of the criminal war in Iraq based on lies ratger than showing vote-begging compassion to the wounded soldiers.
    Added to the messy management of her campaign it shows she has in no respect the quality of a President.
    Nor she is entitled to silly critics of plagiarism...

    Posted by frenchreader February 22, 08 12:38 PM
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  1. I I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MCCAIN IN THERE AS PRESIDENT,I THINK HE WOULD BE A GOOD LEADER.

    Posted by robert fite February 22, 08 12:38 PM
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  1. Obama also didn't vow to go beyond March 4. What a pathetic article. All I ask is for a substantive editorial and a president who believes in evolution. Is this too much to hope for?

    Posted by SM February 22, 08 12:39 PM
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  1. Mathmatically, the Democratic race is narrow. Emotionally and inspirationally, however, Obama has a vast lead. I am an Obama supporter, who, since his electric speech at the 2004 Dem. Convention, has been waiting for his turn as President. This is not to take anything away from Hillary. Both she and Obama are deserving candidates with A-list credentials, and I would be thrilled to have either as my President. The pundits and spin alley charlatans warp any evidence of submission--Hillary's emotional "valedictory" moment in last night's debate--and turn it into gossipy food for the American public. Obama has proven that Americans are smarter than the media suggests, and Hillary has proven that, by persevering after losing a 20 point lead in polls and possibly the nomination, that democracy lives. The principle act on our agenda as Democrats is to keep McCain OUT of office.

    Posted by Andrew M. Madonia February 22, 08 12:39 PM
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  1. Wo talk about drama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by Jaylon Daniels February 22, 08 12:39 PM
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  1. I love how every newpaper in the country is puting Clinton up first as a headline. So who is the corporate pick?

    Posted by Kate Cooper February 22, 08 12:53 PM
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  1. We've seen Hilary's kind of campaign failure before. Too many business-as-usual fundraisers, too many early insider endorsements, too many re-tread advisors. It is too bad. America likely be better off now if the hot young governor from Arkansas in '92 had been the Mrs. rather than The Bill. Bill squandered the White House and we ended up with re-tread Rumsfield, et al. We can't change history. Hilary is history. We need a clean sweep of the stale advisors re-heating the Clinton 1992 campaign game plan. We deserve a fresh President with both eyes focused forward on our unified future.

    Posted by Jules James February 22, 08 12:53 PM
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  1. Senator Clinton was genuine, rightfully moved, sincere, and won not only the immigration debate, Cuba and healthcare but also captured my heart. Pundits can spin the endgame all they want, but this was TRUTH, The last time they saw truth in the making she won New Hampshire. Hillary will win Texas and Ohio and the presidency because she is philosophical and pragmatic.

    Posted by mags February 22, 08 12:54 PM
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  1. This year, for a change, the Democrats had several first rate candidates, with two of the finest making it to the end. It is natural that each of us should make a choice and then back that choice with intensity. However, too much intensity can obscure objectivity and fairness. It is possible to prefer Clinton and NOT be a racist, and it is possible to prefer Obama and NOT be anti-women. Self righteous extremism on either side is its own form of self perpetuating bigotry. Progress is not helped by retreating, like anne-marie above, to self righteous paranoid explanations.

    Posted by wsp February 22, 08 12:54 PM
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  1. Vote McCain is right -- He can work with both sides as he has shown in the past and would unite the country IMO. The Last thing we need is 4 years with no checks and balances between the House, Senate and Presidency. We should never forget what happened when we let the Republicans took contol all three. We the people lost out due to polictal agendas.

    Posted by Adam February 22, 08 12:54 PM
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  1. What is most amazing, in reading these posts, is that there are HRC supporters who actually believe that she will be the next president. I read an op-ed piece recently that said that "if Obama had lost 11 contests in a row, the Democratic party would be anointing Hillary the nominee." Why is it that HRC and her supporters cannot see what is so obvious. It is over. Obama will take Texas (and he might just take Ohio too) and Hillary will finally, at long last, concede defeat. It is all over but the crying.

    Posted by David February 22, 08 12:54 PM
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  1. Your headline said she doesn't "vow to go beyond" 3/4--she never said that at all.
    Why did you lie in your headline?

    Posted by Nonta Buri February 22, 08 12:54 PM
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  1. I totatlly agreed with one of the comment here. Obama may not throw alot of negative attack against Hillary, but his supporter are out right mean. I guess his ideal doesn't transpired to his support because you guys throw more negative attacks on her than Obama. What a shame and you call yourself "the people who wants change". I don't know if I want change when the most mean spirited people are voting for Obama.

    Posted by Aeldas February 22, 08 12:54 PM
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  1. Your headline said she doesn't "vow to go beyond" 3/4--she never said that at all.
    Why did you lie in your headline?

    Posted by Nonta Buri February 22, 08 12:54 PM
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  1. Obama's has virtually no experience, (3 years in the Senate is all), and his plans will result in the worst finacial failure in the history of our country! Has anybody else actually read his economic plan? At least Hillery has Bill, which we did quite well with by the way. She would have him for help to start out which would be a big help. I hate to vote for Mccain, but if Hillery is gone, it's the only way to save the country. Of course, that's if he lives long enough. He's probably been drawing SSI for 6 years at full retirement.

    Posted by Steve February 22, 08 12:55 PM
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  1. Guess what.......neither of them will be the next president. John McCain will be !

    Posted by Rick Durocher February 22, 08 12:56 PM
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  1. What is wrong with all you women in this room - I really believe you "LIKE HILLARY" because she's a woman wanting to be President. You don't vote for someone because of their gender, as this seems to be the case with a lot of you - plus you don't know jack about the history of the CLINTON'S. They are liars, cheats and users. I'm a female and I wouldn't vote for her if my life depended on it. They will do ANYTHING to get in the White House again.

    Posted by MaryAFoster February 22, 08 12:56 PM
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  1. not that this has anything to do with the race but why do people insist in calling him the potential first African American president. He is biracial, his mother is white and his father from Kenya. He grew up abroad for the first 10 years of his life. How does this experience making him African American???? If we are going to use labels lets be careful about it.

    Posted by arcely February 22, 08 12:57 PM
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  1. In regard to comment number 13,

    Playing on peoples emotions will not get her elected.....

    Posted by george owens jr February 22, 08 11:46 AM,

    -but it will get Obama elected? At least she has solid plans, experience, and a record of doing what she believes will most benefit the American people; which will all be more usefull than an inborn ability to outspeak the most inspiring of Ministers.

    Posted by Tony February 22, 08 12:57 PM
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  1. Strike three!!!

    Next batter . . .

    Posted by Steve Johnson February 22, 08 12:58 PM
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  1. As I write this Obama has gained momentum. He seems bright and articulate. Hillary is a seasoned person and one who is also bright. I’m a senior so I tend to look at these two from a different vantage point. The situation is one I’ve seen more than once in our corporate settings. You give your efforts to a company and help them to grow. You stay there for years and get to know every facet of the company. Time marches on and retirement is only a few years away. Suddenly the company needs a young dazzling college grad and you’re shoved out of your office and into a cubicle. You can only hope they’ll allow you to stay so you can get your retirement pay. If you’re a woman you no doubt have also been working for less money. This too can affect your retirement.

    Obama represents the dazzling college grad. He comes in a pretty package and dances like Richard Gere did in that movie. He has a glib tongue and people seem mesmerized. What happens to the gal who has given this country so much? Will she be shoved out of the chosen office and into a cubicle? I’m worried and it has nothing to do with not liking this guy. I’m worried because our country has so many problems. To me the problems call for lots of experience–a person who knows every facet of foreign and domestic issues. So… be it a democrat or a Republican I hope our next leader will be a person with experience and resilence.

    Note: I believe if Hillary wins she’ll find a place for Obama. She has supported him in the past. God willing he also has age on his side.

    Finally… a few words about Bill: It’s being said that many blacks are supporting Obama. This is their American right and it’s democracy in action. Having said that, it seems like Bill’s efforts have helped many blacks. He wasn’t the one to get the lady out of the back of the bus. However through his efforts, many blacks have been able to get on the bus and have more hope. Is there even room for Bill on the bus now?


    Posted by Stew February 22, 08 12:59 PM
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  1. As I write this Obama has gained momentum. He seems bright and articulate. Hillary is a seasoned person and one who is also bright. I’m a senior so I tend to look at these two from a different vantage point. The situation is one I’ve seen more than once in our corporate settings. You give your efforts to a company and help them to grow. You stay there for years and get to know every facet of the company. Time marches on and retirement is only a few years away. Suddenly the company needs a young dazzling college grad and you’re shoved out of your office and into a cubicle. You can only hope they’ll allow you to stay so you can get your retirement pay. If you’re a woman you no doubt have also been working for less money. This too can affect your retirement.

    Obama represents the dazzling college grad. He comes in a pretty package and dances like Richard Gere did in that movie. He has a glib tongue and people seem mesmerized. What happens to the gal who has given this country so much? Will she be shoved out of the chosen office and into a cubicle? I’m worried and it has nothing to do with not liking this guy. I’m worried because our country has so many problems. To me the problems call for lots of experience–a person who knows every facet of foreign and domestic issues. So… be it a democrat or a Republican I hope our next leader will be a person with experience and resilence.

    Note: I believe if Hillary wins she’ll find a place for Obama. She has supported him in the past. God willing he also has age on his side.

    Finally… a few words about Bill: It’s being said that many blacks are supporting Obama. This is their American right and it’s democracy in action. Having said that, it seems like Bill’s efforts have helped many blacks. He wasn’t the one to get the lady out of the back of the bus. However through his efforts, many blacks have been able to get on the bus and have more hope. Is there even room for Bill on the bus now?


    Posted by Stew February 22, 08 12:59 PM
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  1. "Obama will screw up the foreign policy of this country."

    Wow. Such a compelling argument! Just how much more can our foreign policy be "screwed up" than it already is???

    And no. Don't vote McCain. I used to admire him. Not anymore. Not since his inexplicable decision to back Bush every step of the way on our futile and pointless foray into the unsolvable mess that is today's Iraq.

    Posted by Ash February 22, 08 12:59 PM
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  1. Sorry to burst your bubbles. But, America can NEVER elect a woman.

    Just like they can NEVER have a low birth mortality, low crime and murder rates and high literacy.

    Look to the rest of the world.

    And for all you fine American women, move to Canada or the UK where they've elected women and know how to treat you right.

    Posted by Raven Lee February 22, 08 12:59 PM
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  1. Sorry to burst your bubbles. But, America can NEVER elect a woman.

    Just like they can NEVER have a low birth mortality, low crime and murder rates and high literacy.

    Look to the rest of the world.

    And for all you fine American women, move to Canada or the UK where they've elected women and know how to treat you right.

    Posted by Raven Lee February 22, 08 12:59 PM
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  1. Snap judgments and random hatred is what America does best! Let's just admit it, people have always been threatened by Hillary from the beginning because she was a strong, capable woman. Had she been a man, it would be a different story. Hillary never divided this country, this country divided itself.

    Posted by SC February 22, 08 12:59 PM
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  1. Snap judgments and random hatred is what America does best! Let's just admit it, people have always been threatened by Hillary from the beginning because she was a strong, capable woman. Had she been a man, it would be a different story. Hillary never divided this country, this country divided itself.

    Posted by SC February 22, 08 12:59 PM
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  1. She's a smart lady, and would make a helluva President. However, the writing is on the wall; it's Texas and Ohio or bust. She alluded to this last night when she said she didn't think it would come down to the superdelegates. She and Bill have always paid close attention to the polls. The Democratic Party will fracture and splinter apart if the superdelegates usurp the will of the voters. All these young people will say: "see, our votes don't count for anything - it's just old party hounds voting for their masters." We can't afford that. We're too close to victory. She's too good, and too smart to allow that. If she doesn't win Texas and Ohio, she will "step to the rear and let a winner lead the way" [and yes I did plagerize that last bit from lyricist Carolyn Leigh, and I'm not ashamed to admit it].

    Posted by Ivan February 22, 08 01:00 PM
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  1. Go Bama Go!

    Posted by Spencer February 22, 08 01:00 PM
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  1. End of the "Royal" Families era? (Clintons,Kennedys,Bush?)

    It seems ABSURD to me that Chelsea should have the chance to say, "both Mommy AND Daddy were President of the United States!!!"

    ...Let's leave England to keep the tradition that one is BORN into the ruling class,
    and the Caste system to India.

    Posted by Tony B. February 22, 08 01:00 PM
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  1. End of the "Royal" Families era? (Clintons,Kennedys,Bush?)

    It seems ABSURD to me that Chelsea should have the chance to say, "both Mommy AND Daddy were President of the United States!!!"

    ...Let's leave England to keep the tradition that one is BORN into the ruling class,
    and the Caste system to India.

    Posted by Tony B. February 22, 08 01:00 PM
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  1. reply to anne marie- your an idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by Chris February 22, 08 01:00 PM
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  1. I think it is ridiculous that everyone is like "Hillary Clinton is losing" when in fact less than 200 delegates separate them. The contest is far from over, despite how badly certain people want it to be.

    MEDIA BIAS: When Hillary was far more than 200 delegates ahead, everyone said that it was proportional and the fact that Obama lost was no big deal. Obama has always been a darling of the media. He is not that far ahead.

    People forget that it is still proportional. Just because a candidate "wins" a state doesn't mean they get all of the delegates. This race is a close one. Stay tuned and stop jumping to conclusions.

    Posted by Michael February 22, 08 01:01 PM
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  1. If you vote for Obama- it'll be a Jimmy Carter era all over again!!
    We don't need inexperience at a time like this...Hillary is the best candidate for taking the US into the furture - and eliminating of the national debt (AGAIN). Maybe Obama will do in another 8 years, with the experience he gets as VP.

    Posted by elaine February 22, 08 01:01 PM
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  1. Comment 5.
    Nancy Pelosi is #3 in line after Dick Cheney.
    Obama is the better candidate, that's all.

    Obama will beat Mc Cain by a good margin.
    Mc Cain supports the Iraq war, most Americans want to end it.
    Mc Cain lost to GWB in 2000, that tells ya something right there!
    Americans want change, they want to turn the page. Mc cain is history.
    I do respect his sacrafice and service to our country, but he is the wrong man for the job, and voters will show that in November.
    Obama is intelligent, articulate and can unite and work with people to get the job done. Obama will beat Mc Cain by a larger margin than GWB beat Kerry.
    And that will give him a mandate for change, which is good for America!
    Remember this post! Lets watch for the margin of Obamas victory.

    Posted by David C February 22, 08 01:01 PM
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  1. It is no longer possible for HRC to win the nomination, and she knows that.

    She is behind by approximately 140 pledged delegates, with less than 900 left to vote for. That means she would need to get 58 percent of the rest of the popular vote, or to put it another way, a 16-point lead in the rest of the contests in order to pull even in pledged delegates. That isn’t possible. She also knows that if the super delegates steal the nomination from the first viable black candidate, when he clearly got the popular vote, it will destroy the Democratic Party, as well as her chances in the general election. I believe we would see riots – maybe not as bad as 1968, but real riots.

    Her only chance to get to the presidency is to withdraw from this race as soon as she can do it gracefully, and to shoot for 2012 or 2016. That is what she is clearly preparing to do. I’ll be surprised if she’s still in the race by March 6. The next interesting question will be whether she’s the Vice Presidential candidate, and how her supporters would react to that.

    Posted by John February 22, 08 01:01 PM
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  1. The state of the Democratic race is a disgrace for Americans, attributable to the media.

    The popularity of Obama has not been driven because of his proven track record on the issues. Indeed, his popularity among American voters has been driven by the media. The media, particularly CNN and other major networks, have focused all their energy and airtime on Obama, which has fueled apparent energy around him. The media attention on Obama has served as a persuasive platform for media consumers, i.e., the American public. This election is all about what the media has put in the heads of voters- and that is, Obama. Believe me, if the media were to change course and get behind Hillary, she would win this hands down. What she has accomplished to date is a credit to her track record and a product of her hard work. And the delegate counts are dead even. Imagine where Hillary would be if the media did not continue with all thus hype around Obama. This thing would be over.

    Posted by Mary Jane February 22, 08 01:02 PM
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  1. as far as experience goes or doesn't go:

    neither of these people have been president before.

    1000's of people work with the president and advise the president. these are the people who need and have experience while the president is a figurehead and mast head, heading out first, directing, meeting and REPRESENTING the country, its 100's of years of experience, REPRESENTING the US to the world and to us. it IS far more important that this person is able to use the people around them, have a small head and an open ear and a willingness to actually listen instead of (Cont)
    on down

    Posted by raccoon February 22, 08 01:02 PM
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  1. Ronald Reagan, where are you when we need you?

    Posted by Jerry February 22, 08 01:03 PM
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  1. Hitlery Clinton is done. Fail campaign is fail. I hope she gets hit by a bus.

    Posted by HiLOLry Cunton February 22, 08 01:03 PM
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  1. Obama is naive if he thinks his charisma is going to be the key to get our country ahead. Obviously his charisma has not helped him in his years in the senate where his bills have been watered down in order to pass. He is an incrementalist in his approach not this big agent of radical change people make him to be. Just

    Posted by arcely February 22, 08 01:04 PM
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  1. Some may say that two of Hillary's biggest moments were her "Change that you can Xerox" comment, alluding to Barack's "plagarism", and her closing comments.

    Now consider this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ7Cs3QvT3U

    Ouch...

    Posted by Clint February 22, 08 01:04 PM
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  1. The republican candidate votes like a democrate, one democrate candidate is a communist and the other is a muslim... which is the lesser of the three evils? :-/

    Posted by John February 22, 08 01:04 PM
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  1. I didn't think it would be possible to dream of Hillary leaving the campaign. I hope it happens. From Whitewater to her cattle futures deal and all the other dubious enterprises she and Bill have been associated, I dreaded the day the two of them would take power again. I think deep down, most of those who pay homage to the Clinton mystic, really didn't want the dynamic duo in the White House again. Obama is an empty suit, but he is new and seemingly free of the baggage of the Bill and Hillary. Since we are likely to elect a Democrat, I would rather it Obama. With Bill and Hillary, we've been there done that. Once is enough.

    Posted by Jeff Saeli February 22, 08 01:04 PM
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  1. Hillary is very calculating. She exploits every opportunity for her own benefit, definitely NOT for America as she claims. Has she ever provided a good reason why she voted for Iraq invasion in 2003 during Bush Administration strong domination? She could NOT and would NOT stand against opposition when we need her to. To tout support from Spanish community, she would legalize illegal immigrants in this free country where illegal immigrants come across the border freely. She claims to be very experienced. What successful experiences do we see? Are they from Bill's office as first lady? She didn't have administrative power vested in her as first lady. A majority of senators, congressmen and congresswomen are alot more experienced than her, a still junior senator. She thinks she outsmarts everyone in this country and everything can be manipulated to her advantage. She did come out strong in the beginning of the campaign. Fortunately more and more people realize her dark side and turn away from her. Politicians all suck. It boils down who sucks less. I guess American people are already ready to kick out the bigger sucker.

    Posted by j Su February 22, 08 01:04 PM
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  1. Hillary is a very sharp, very bright lady. Make no mistake about it. She's got the brains to be president of the United States. She's also smart enough to realize how slim her chances are of winning this thing.

    Posted by Jimmy February 22, 08 01:05 PM
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  1. Barack Obama tried to play down his wife’s statement, but it’s not the sort of remark that can be spun away. To say that “for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country,” and trying to justify it as pride in a political campaign, carries a casually stark assumption that there’s nothing within this country that’s really worth praising.
    But outside the Obama campaign bubble, great things are happening, things that have nothing to do with politics and everything to do with who we are. Consider the news so far this week:
    On Wednesday, the U.S. Navy shot down a dying satellite over the Pacific on a first try, hitting the target 133 miles up and traveling at 22,000 miles an hour in a 10-second window. The whole operation took just days to announce and pull off, sending a clear message to our foes about America’s lead in technology, human talent and can-do spirit. This comes only because we live in a democracy.
    Also on Wednesday, the Space Shuttle Atlantis made another flawless landing after a textbook mission. The operation demonstrated American know-how and the courage of our astronauts. The success follows devastating setbacks earlier this decade and underlines that the U.S. is never defeated by them. Most Americans find this worth cheering about.
    On Tuesday, Gen. David Petraeus, commander of coalition forces in Iraq, was seen walking around Baghdad with no helmet or protective armor, another sign the surge is working. Facts bear this out: Violence is down 60%, and reconciliation is under way. This follows the general’s optimistic talk about an end to this mission as democracy takes hold. This is how Americans define victory, and for this, too, we can be proud.
    On Sunday, President Bush was greeted by millions of cheering Africans after having sent $5 billion in aid to strengthen democracies and diminish threats such as AIDS and malaria. Bush showed that the U.S. favors strengthening democracies, no matter how small or strategically insignificant. As crowds thundered approval, Bush sent the signal that America will help states that foster human development. His action shares our hope — and our pride.
    Comparing that to a pride in a political campaign — of which they will be the beneficiaries — somehow diminishes the Obamas. If they aspire to real leadership, they will rise above politics and start recognizing the achievements most of us already value.

    Posted by Amy February 22, 08 01:05 PM
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  1. This is plagerism?? Not in the journalism book studied by this ex-editor!

    Clinton said yesterday:
    "Whatever happens, we're going to be fine. You know, we have strong support from our families and our friends. I just hope that we'll be able to say the same thing about the American people, and that's what this election should be about."

    Edwards said previously:
    "What's not at stake are any of us. All of us are going to be just fine no matter what happens in this election. But what's at stake is whether America is going to be fine."

    Posted by ex_editor February 22, 08 01:05 PM
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  1. Why does everyone think that the xerox comment was not well received?

    Because people bood her?

    YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BOO CANDIDATED IN A DEBATE!

    Especially when Hillary did absolutely nothing wrong.

    Obama used someone else's words without attribution, and you would never have known about it if Hillary hadn't told you.

    The bottom line is that Hillary is being villified for believing that dishonesty in a presidential candidate is a valid issue.

    Before you jump on the anti-Hillary bandwagon, ask yourself this question: What else is Obama being dishonest about?

    Posted by Bruce February 22, 08 01:05 PM
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  1. None of the pundits noted Obama's self congratulatory moment about the "greatness" of his rhetoric, or his difficulty speaking without prepared remarks. In each debate, moments in which his arrogance shows through, are largely ignored by the press which seems devoted to getting him the nomination. I find his arrogance and emptiness as alarming as was Bush's in 2000. I think Hillary by strength, knowledge and temperament is the best man in this race. I am resigned to the press managing to get him the nomination, but I predict it will cost the Democratic party the general election.

    Posted by K. M. Randall February 22, 08 01:05 PM
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  1. Hilary scares me, we all know she is a hard woman who turns the tap on for sympathy votes. This empathetic soul chooses to get nasty to win - come on the two do not mix! Why is she ready to be president, because she works hard, because she visited 80 countries or because she was the presidents wife? The world is a very different place since 9/11, all the rulers and governments have changed since she trotted by her husbands side - she is no more ready than either of the other two contenders in the race - who could be? It'll be a hard job for anyone but the more she fights the more she looses credibility - would she do that on the global scene? Can we afford to have another laughing stock?

    Posted by John Dreyer February 22, 08 01:07 PM
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  1. It's funny that someone said that Obama was in the pocket of insurance companies.

    Hillary's Health-care "Plan" is to force you to buy insurance from those companies, with the government fining you if you don't.

    For a candidate who supposedly has such "substance," none of her supporters seem to even know what her proposals are.

    Posted by Duffman February 22, 08 01:07 PM
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  1. THE FACTS:

    Senator Cinton was interrupted by the anchor 3 times during the debate.
    OBAMA ZERO.
    Twice Senator Clinton was not allowed to answer a FLAGRANT argument (IRAQ).
    Obama had several rebuttals.
    Obama strayed from questions 3 times and was never stopped.
    I'm timing speeches today as Obama seemed to keep repeating himself sometimes embarrasingly so.

    Winner : Ted Turner
    Loser: All of us.

    Posted by mags February 22, 08 01:07 PM
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  1. Doesn't anyone see the similarities between Hillary's closing statement and the teary act just before the New Hampshire primary?! Hillary is not counting herself out of this game - she's playing the same game that worked for her before.

    The statement from Wolfson right afterwards should be the tip-off -- the comment about Hillary retaking the reins of the contest are eerily similar to her New Hampshire comment about having "found her voice." She's no more out of this race now than she was before -- don't let your guard down!

    Posted by Ann February 22, 08 01:08 PM
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  1. Ding dong the witch is dead.................don't fear the change people.

    Posted by james dillan February 22, 08 01:08 PM
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  1. To paraphase Michelle Obama, for the first time in my adult life, I'm really ashamed of this country. it's not because why the monkey is still the white house or why we're still in Iraq. But because of the good people of America have chosen to deny the most qualified woman in the past 30 years to be the next president of the United States of America. Instead, the good people of America, have decided that a politican with experience of Dan Quayle, the good look of Brad Pitt , the mouth of a neigborhood church preacher, and the naiveness of a high school class president to lead us through the challenging years ahead of us.

    If you look at the world around us, look at the challenges in world security and global competitions in everything from A to Z, you will see that there is not time for on the job learning for the job of the presidency. Everywhere in the world, competitive nations choose their leaders for their competency, it is only in America, that beauty contest is the name of the game.

    Posted by Choice February 22, 08 01:08 PM
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  1. Go home Hillary

    Posted by John February 22, 08 01:08 PM
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  1. uh, John hydler? The Electoral College has absolutely nothing to do with primary campaigns. It only votes in the actual Presidential Elections. And its members aren't the pledged delegates nor the super delegates that have been in the news so far.

    Posted by Robert February 22, 08 01:08 PM
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  1. er... anyone who thinks this is a concession speech is a moron. hillary is clearly still in the race and i believe this is yet another political maneuver to win over the american people.

    we all know that she is at her best when she shows her "human" side and yet either she is so much a robot or so vetted that she is incapable of doing it at any other time besides the moment she is about to choke: new hampshire eve and this debate. even i took those tears as genuine, but at the same time, i no longer have any doubt that even if those tears were genuine, she knew she could use them to her advantage.

    similarly, because the race is so tight right now, this moment of sensitivity (it seemed to me she was trying very hard to cry...) that i realized her political genius. true, her campaign has otherwise been a mess of mismanagement and misappropriation of funds, but we cannot deny that fundamentally, to reach where she is today, hillary must be a damn good, wily politician.

    you know obama was thinking "f-, i wish i had thanked the american people instead of going on about my own trials. i wish i had reached over to give the peacemaking handshake, to be the better person. i wish i had gotten that standing ovation."

    i see that last remark as one, that may sadly, cruise her to victory. we shall see. we've got a week to see how this one little speech will affect the numbers and the end result.

    i believe in something great--obama, oh eight!

    Posted by Katharine February 22, 08 01:08 PM
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  1. Hillary??? Gag!! Fake! And oh how that shrill voice is like nails on a chalkboard.
    Obama??? too inexperienced!!! What a media creation.... Fake!
    McCain??? Yawn...... Fake!

    Ronald Reagan where are you when we need you???

    Posted by Jerry February 22, 08 01:08 PM
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  1. Obama is ALL WORDS and no backbone. If he gets the nomination and happens to beat McCain...lord help us all. That in crisis we will elect a President who has no idea what that entails. That when we need EXPERIENCE the most we will put a baby barely out of diapers in the most important seat in the 'house. Well hey, then maybe I will put on a beret, give speeches like MLK, and post up pics of Che Guevara and run for president too.
    Hillary is AMAZING. She was great last night. And for all of you who never saw that before, you have been BLINDED by the Hollywood that is the Obama campaign. What has he really done for us? I am sorry but I will NOT bank my child's future on empty promises and rhetoric that is OBAMA.
    PS...No.44...I would buy a VOLVO too!

    Posted by Aria February 22, 08 01:08 PM
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  1. God help this country if either one gets elected..McCain is liberal enough and then some! Just pray for a better choice in 2012 !

    Posted by Jan C February 22, 08 01:08 PM
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  1. I just want to point out that if Florida and Michigan had their primaries according to the rules, then Obama would have campaigned in those states, and would have done well. There's no saying what would have happened, but I suggest he would have won Michigan and Clinton would have still won Florida. Anyway, saying Michigan and Florida voted against Barack is to ignore the difference between what did happen and what would have happened in a different world.

    Posted by Obama FTW February 22, 08 01:09 PM
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  1. OBAMA is what we need. A person knows how to mamaged things.

    Posted by gwen hunt February 22, 08 01:09 PM
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  1. (cont) going foward stubbornly with blinders on.


    all that matters IS impression and hope. really. this country and its politics are in a bad way and it will take years to fix. those years will be hard. no matter who is in charge or what is done to "fix" things. if the american people have no hope during this time things will become very very bleak. people with hope will stay happier in the same circumstances, spend more, make more of a change and get us back on our feet quicker. without an inspiring figurehead, with or without real policy(not that i agree) we will fail as a country.

    Posted by raccoon February 22, 08 01:09 PM
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  1. Hey Janie,

    I am from NY also. Your line Hillary "helped NY so much with her political expertise." Tell ya what....I want what you're smoking! What, at all, can be said that she's done She came to upstate when she ran for the Senate, and I saw her rage on about how she was going to bring 100,000 jobs to upstate (literally her words). Not only have there been no jobs brought here, there have been thousands that left. Upstate NY is decaying. She is never here, has so little claim to have done anything here. But morons like you think she's done a great job. That's the problem. Your perception is warped, and so is your ability to discern who would do a great job as president. Do you forget about Whitewater, the death of Mr. Vince Foster, Webb Hubble and the rest? This was all worthy of being forgotten, eh? With a woman like Hillary, we're doomed.
    And Rebecca, your comment about the "It's like buying a car -" analogy...wow. Can I have what YOU'RE smoking? The trouble with people like you is that you can't think. Period. I think it's more like the shuttle disaster....if you would have checked the O rings....
    Fact of the matter is...we're in a lot of trouble in this country. All candidates are going to bring the same BS as the rest. It's all about them. Especially Hillary. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so scary that you people believe that Hillary cares one iota about this country. It's all about her power. The ONLY one who makes any sense is McCain, and he's a buffoon as well. At least he has had challenges in his life that are applicable to the world we live in. I'd say god save us all if there was a god. And can you imagine a woman president who cries when someone asks her how she does it, getting up every day. Wow...I see the headlines now...Bin Laden says Hillary is a bitch....when someone in the press asks her how she does it, she cries. Ha! Time thankfully to move on. She is baked. Hopefully she won't return here to NY!

    Posted by Frank Perkowski February 22, 08 01:10 PM
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  1. I think Hilary Clinton is to full of her self and this is just something to put on her list of goals and accomplishments as far as running for President. She is a very intelligent women but she does not have the "heart" for what our country needs right now. I believe Obama has the heart, the passion, the vision to take our country to the place we need to be in many areas. This is his time, this is his season. The state our country is in needs MAJOR change and a whole different perspective, I believe Obama carries these things that can bring back some balance in a country that is so out of balance.We need positive, strong leadership and Obama is the man to bring that for this generation! Demetrius

    Posted by Demetrius Cummings February 22, 08 01:10 PM
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  1. 'Just another attempt to win sympathy. 'Why not? Nothing else has worked! Last time she 'shed a tear' it showed nothing but weakness on her part. This country needs more than that from the nations leader. She has gained Nothing from slamming Obama. (She and 'Billy' have REALLY tried) Who knows what other tactics she has up her sleve. Her past record and so called "Experience" is that of no one I want in the White House. I do not know who I am voting for yet, but I say ANYBODY B U T HILLARY. Please country wake up!!

    Posted by Linda Johnson February 22, 08 01:11 PM
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  1. Most blacks will vote Obama because he's black and a good deal of white dems will vote Obama because they are so afraid of being called racist that they jump through all types of hoops. The democratic party is so at odds right now.

    There is no way that a democrat wins this election. The Republicans will gel around McCain and McCain will siphon off the smart democratic voters. All the "youthful" support Obama has will not show up on election day (just like they didn't 4 years ago to "stop bush") and McCain will steam roll.


    Congratulations, President McCain.

    Posted by Shawn February 22, 08 01:11 PM
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  1. Go Oboma! Images of Bill Clinton sucked up to daddy Bush sunk Hillary. McCain is a dullard that could not beat a midget with a hatchet. Vote against all incumbants in every election every time if you really want change.

    Posted by Artichoke February 22, 08 01:11 PM
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  1. Silly Post's you would think it makes a difference who is in office. The person elected is not the person in power. Never has been

    Posted by Allen February 22, 08 01:11 PM
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  1. Whitehouse interns can almost take a sigh of relief.

    Posted by Kent February 22, 08 01:12 PM
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  1. It would be very difficult for Obama or Hillary to screw up this nation's foreign policy worse than it has been by the Unilateralists. They have hamhandedly protected the interests of their rich friends and their fellow religious zealots. They've based their policy on donor's dollars and dogma. We need better.

    McCain is a true American hero. He lived through years of hell in Vietnam prisons that would have broken or killed a lesser man. But, he has the same lunatic fringe pressing him that have been making Bush's decisions for years. We cannot afford more of the same.

    Hillary is a also a great American. But, I don't believe she can go to Washington and not end up in the same partisanship war that took such a toll on Bill Clinton's campaign. The Republicans whine about obstructionist tactics by the Democrats but they gave the Dems lessons at it.

    Posted by Dennis February 22, 08 01:12 PM
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  1. Hillary is very gifted and knowlegable, but she is not a good a campaigner as Obama. She has been a far better senator, but he promises to bring people to gether and get bipartisan results on our nation's problems.

    She should not be vilified because of her husband.

    I think she will have a prominent role in politics in the future and she should.
    Maybe president after Obama?????? I don't think she would want to be VP... not an interesting enough job.

    Posted by westie33 February 22, 08 01:12 PM
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  1. For those people who look for experience in candidate, are you looking for the lies mistruths,greed? Mc Cain and Clinton are business as usual and will continue to sell the crap the american people have become use to. Electing people because of their spouse or fathers name, taking credit for their accomplishments leads to a cast system not true democracy. McCain and the Clintons have had their chance. We need to regain American values. We entered the war because of a lie we need to leave with some degree of self-respect.
    America needs real change now not the same old crap.

    Posted by Tommie Johnson February 22, 08 01:12 PM
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  1. Obama has criticized Hillary for voting for the war. But at the time the vote was taken, the CIA had “irrefutable” evidence that Saddam had WMD and Colin Powell had appeared before the UN with pictures of Saddam’s moving labs. My question is that given all this, would have Obama voted with Hillary? If not, why not? Does he have the experience and courage to send our military in harm’s way?

    My plan is to vote for McCain if Hillary is not nominated.

    Posted by Mr Rich February 22, 08 01:12 PM
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  1. Not One Single Democrat or Independent will vote for a Third-Term-for-Bush, with John "No Jobs-More War" McCain.

    Posted by Emma February 22, 08 01:12 PM
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  1. I truely believe that Hillary is the best for our country during these
    extreme difficult times. Experience does mean everything. Have you ever
    tried to teach someone to do your job ? Than, you know what I mean.
    The media ,especially those guys and dolls, on cnn and msnbc are so
    very biased and do not really care what happens to this country like Hillary,
    only that which gives them some sort of fame.
    Get up and" smell the roses."

    Posted by kathie February 22, 08 01:12 PM
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  1. it ain't over until it is over. This is just the preparation for the final all out punch. You haven't seen the end of it yet.

    Posted by linda February 22, 08 01:14 PM
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  1. it ain't over until it is over. This is just the preparation for the final all out punch. You haven't seen the end of it yet.

    Posted by linda February 22, 08 01:14 PM
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  1. "I was called by my faith and by my upbringing to do what I could to give others the same opportunities and blessings that I took for granted."....she was blessed with life, something she does not hesitate to deny to 4000 lives aborted each day, she gives them no opportunity.

    Posted by margie February 22, 08 01:15 PM
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  1. ISN'T IT TOO LATE TO BE STILL LOOKING 4 A MESSAGE AND A VOICE? iSN'T THE RACE ALMOST OVER?

    TIME TO EXIT WITH DIGNITY AND STYLE.

    Posted by June Shaw February 22, 08 01:15 PM
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  1. P.S. i apologize on behalf of all the mud-slinging obamaniacs. the very least we can do is try to contribute stimulating, substantive issues to debate amongst ourselves.

    but in barack's defense, to those who think he's just whistles and bells, seem to still just passing judgements on an image, on a perception they have of him, rather than hard facts. i think few people are well-researched enough to truly say that they believe barack is just a pretty boy with pretty rhetoric. as always, you must do your research before casting your aspersions, a problem obama and clinton supporters alike have... not just the neophyte, bandwagon-hopping mtv-watching pot-smoking youth demographic that supposedly buoys obama.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/20/201332/807/36/458633

    take a look at that. a comparison of the bills that each candidate has co-sponsored and gotten passed, then we can really debate. forget who borrowed what, let's look at the issues.

    Posted by Katharine February 22, 08 01:16 PM
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  1. I wish someone would ask Billary about their dealings with Peter Paul.

    Posted by Keith February 22, 08 01:16 PM
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  1. Vote McCain. Ha!!! what makes him different from Hillary. Oh except for the fact he may not live out his term.

    Posted by Morris February 22, 08 01:16 PM
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  1. I am an englih in England and have being following the democratic debates for a while now, having heard both sides of the presentation for ideas and wisdow, it's appear to me the Sen Obama is more to be BELIEVED as compare to Mrs Clinton.

    I think that is more reason for Sen Barack VISTORY I think that 's very good for America, Having sead that She has great experience that will be of great benefit to the raning of the country.

    Posted by jonacam01 February 22, 08 01:16 PM
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  1. Hillary has taken more lobbyist money than any candidate in the entire Repub or Dem race. INCLUDING INSURANCE COMPANY money--

    Obama has taken ZERO money from the insurance lobbyists or any other Washington lobbyist, or any PAC money--

    -her Health Care plan was basically written by the insurance industry---what is not to like for them?--everyone will be FORCED to pay for health insurance or have their wages taken away from them-I wish I could get the government to force people to buy my product. That would be sweet--I might even help elect someone who could do that for me


    Posted by Paul S February 22, 08 01:16 PM
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  1. Empty messages for empty brains. Lets dance, we need some rain. Yes we can… Poor United BananaRepublics of America

    Posted by Daniel February 22, 08 01:16 PM
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  1. Let's be fair. Clinton did well, mostly (Xerox, notwithstanding). Obama did well, mostly (but too nice). On the other hand, the real winners are us, the people who will get to choose one of these fine candidates over a respectable (albeit in my mind, wrong-minded) Republican. We could ask for no better choices. I have voted here in Texas for Obama, but if Clinton gets the nomination, I will support her strongly. If McCain were to miraculously prevail (hope not), I would not move to Canada (unless Huckabee were his running mate :) !). I completely agree with the sentiment (even perhaps if she did not put it into the proper context) with Michelle Obama that, after a very long dry spell, I am feeling proud to be an American. Partly, I have Obama, Clinton, and yes, even McCain to thank for this. Better yet, I can thank us, The Ameircan People, for demanding and getting better choices.

    Posted by Steve McDaniel February 22, 08 01:16 PM
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  1. Lila you need to get your facts straight. It was not Obama's campaign that attacked Senator Clinton's last statement, it was the interpretation of the press. if you want to blame someone for something you first need to get your facts straight.

    Posted by kojack February 22, 08 01:16 PM
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  1. At a girl Hillary. Show us more of who you are and we'll show you more of who we are....and who we're FOR on your election day. That closing remark was the essence of the personhood of the Hillary many more Americans are getting to know every day. You Go Wellesley!

    Posted by Purple Vassar February 22, 08 01:17 PM
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  1. What was THE MOMENT in your life thus far that tested you the most and therefore qualifies you the most to be the next leader of the United States of America?

    This was actually the last question that was asked in the debate.

    The Obama answer: It was not one moment, it has been an accumulation of experiences over the course of his life coupled with the realization over time that every experience is a learning experience. Perhaps the most significant aspect of that total experience has been the cultivation of a deep sense of empathy that provides him with the capacity to see the commonality across diverse groups and leverage that capacity for understanding to generate rationed solutions to seemingly intractable problems. The summary of which points toward a desire to do what he can to help the American people bring out of themselves the inherent strength that all humans possess. A strength that has effectively been negated through the build up of partisan politics.

    The Clinton answer: The set up paints the senator as a victim of injustice suffered at the hand of the unstated but implied 'vast right wing conspiracy' (which inflicted totally unjustified wounds) for absolutely no justifiable reason.

    The distraction segues into part two, where a similar and much much deeper emotional scene is created of Americans who have been physically victimized by that same unstated hand (of course you need to forget here that the senator herself voted to send others like those described to the war). Creating the illusion that the senator too is part of this parade of casualties but no part of it's cause.

    The closer then becomes a complete switch of roles where you are supposed to forget the plagiarism comments toward Obama as the senator herself plagiarizes her (loving and caring victimized) husband and John Edwards (when valued by her own publicly stated standards) and leaves you with a lingering doubt that the Clintons offer the only hope (yes, the senator actually used the very word and concept that they have been ridiculing) for salvation from the enemy and that they, the Clintons really deserve the job because it is their destiny (religious allusion to having been granted this right by the some other unseen yet ever present power i.e. this job is a birthright).

    The Obama 'praise' line is then thrown in there to completely distract anyone (Obama, Clinton, McCain supporters alike) from raising this illusion to the surface of consciousness where, by rational analysis is would be exposed for the convoluted mind game that it was undoubtedly intended to be.

    Please do not take my word for this, watch it again yourself here where you can pause, rewind and detach from the emotional smoke screen.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=CZVjurveVz8&feature=related

    So, there you have it according to me.

    I can clearly see that if you are one of the many who have been hypnotized by this sort of chimera. An art so skillfully practiced by the Clintons over the years, you were left with some sort of uplifting feeling coupled with a deep sense of sympathy. Now more than ever cemented in your commitment to anoint your chosen one, the only one who can and will solve all of your problems.

    (If you had the time to actually watch both Obama and the Clintons speak you would notice how Obama constantly reminds the listener of the work that lies ahead for them while the Clinton message is that all you need to do is get the Clintons into the job and the rest is taken care of). If that is what you are feeling, go splash some cold water on your face and watch the video again.

    It's not too late to break the spell.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=6h3G-lMZxjo

    Posted by NOTHRC February 22, 08 01:17 PM
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  1. Hillary, did'nt do nothing for eight years she was in . Clinton wore the pants.
    stay in your place Hillary as a women. you are not the head.

    Posted by MS.Alabama February 22, 08 01:17 PM
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  1. Ready on Day 1? I think NOT. Hillary can't even manage her campaign properly -- not to speak of the country.

    She ended 2007 with $5 million more than Obama did, and she went broke in January 2008.

    Guess it shouldn't be a surprise though -- What her Communications Director (CD), Howard Wolfenson, makes in a month, is what Obama's CD makes in a year.

    "Ready on Day 1". Please. Don't take my word for it, read the financial reports for yourself: http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS247US248&q=hillary+spending&um=1&sa=N&tab=wn

    Posted by Dana Baxter February 22, 08 01:17 PM
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  1. I would like to know, who is writing for Hillary? Her speeches are so moving, but even so, I just can't believe her.
    I'm a GOP-kinda-girl at heart, but I like to consider all my options before I vote. And as I look at her, and watch her speeches, I can just imagine her preparation: "Ok, Hill, this is it...you can show-up the old man, you just gotta make 'em believe you know what you're talkin' about. Make 'em all believe just for now, and then when you're in office, you can follow in Bush Jr's footsteps, and do whateva' you wanna do! annnnnnndddddddddd.......GO!"
    It just makes me wonder, what is Bill & Hill's offspring going to do in about 10 years?

    Posted by Meg February 22, 08 01:19 PM
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  1. A Clinton persidency would result in extreme partisan politics. She would get as much accomplished as Pelosi. Obama seems like a decent guy that could do a good job if he did not need to work with the useless politicians in Washington. McCain is two faced and wants to give the store away to the illegals. It looks like we are in for a very rough four years no matter what happens. At least the worst candidate is on her way out!

    Posted by LB February 22, 08 01:20 PM
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  1. Why don't we all vote for the person that has the most experience and accomplishments. The person that we determine will make the best president. Why even consider gender, color or political party? When the day arrives that we can talk about someone without mentioning their color or gender, that will be the day we arrive.

    Posted by jan February 22, 08 01:20 PM
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  1. I believe that most Americans realize this country is in very good condition-but has serious looming issues(social security, medicare, Iraq war) that have simply been ignored or swept aside by conservative or Republican rhetoric. We need changes in leadership-as my father said years ago "when in doubt-throw them(current political leadership) out" Obama is the best choice for a chance at changing the status quo.

    Posted by jerry peterson February 22, 08 01:21 PM
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  1. I can't believe the people for McCain thinks he stands a chance against Obama. It's so laughable. McCain has been in Washington for 24yrs and part of the old establishment. What you guys(GOP McCain supporters) are failing to see is that people are really tired of that type of Washington. It is time for change and it need not stop with the election of the President. People should really boot out all the incumbent that are in the election come November. Be they Democrat or Republican.

    Posted by Jackson February 22, 08 01:21 PM
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  1. Hey folks lets be real here its not us Vs. them until november however if Obama had lost 11 out of the last 11 states by double digets he would already be an after thought.... lets face it her clan let her down... She could not and can not beat Obama in this unconventional race... She will have to settle for VP or nothing... and lets be real again if her last name was Smith or Jones she would be in Alaska with Gravel talking about how fun it was while it lasted in January.... lets move on and all you ladies out there need to calm down with this its because she is a women really after over a year of running the only thing we really know about her is she is married to Bill..

    Posted by Dave February 22, 08 01:21 PM
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  1. I THINK PEOPLE ARE GETTING THIS ALL WRONG. HILLARY WANTS TO REPEAT THE NEW HAMPSHIRE STUNT. SHE DOES NOT WANT TO CRY ANYMORE AS THAT WILL REMIND US OF NH. HENCE PULLING OUT A STUNT CLOSE TO CRYING TO SHOW HER EMOTIONS.
    SHE WILL GO BEHIND THE SCENE AND LAUNCH HER ATTACK MACHINE AGAINST OBAMA, THATS HOW SINISTER THE CLINTONS ARE.

    Posted by Raymond Micheals February 22, 08 01:21 PM
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  1. Hey folks lets be real here its not us Vs. them until november however if Obama had lost 11 out of the last 11 states by double digets he would already be an after thought.... lets face it her clan let her down... She could not and can not beat Obama in this unconventional race... She will have to settle for VP or nothing... and lets be real again if her last name was Smith or Jones she would be in Alaska with Gravel talking about how fun it was while it lasted in January.... lets move on and all you ladies out there need to calm down with this its because she is a women really after over a year of running the only thing we really know about her is she is married to Bill..

    Posted by Dave February 22, 08 01:21 PM
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  1. Hey folks lets be real here its not us Vs. them until november however if Obama had lost 11 out of the last 11 states by double digets he would already be an after thought.... lets face it her clan let her down... She could not and can not beat Obama in this unconventional race... She will have to settle for VP or nothing... and lets be real again if her last name was Smith or Jones she would be in Alaska with Gravel talking about how fun it was while it lasted in January.... lets move on and all you ladies out there need to calm down with this its because she is a women really after over a year of running the only thing we really know about her is she is married to Bill..

    Posted by Dave February 22, 08 01:21 PM
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  1. I'm always amazed that anyone believes anything a politician says. They say exactly what they think that particular audience wants to hear...will lie through their teeth. Re:universal healthcare that every American will be REQUIRED to purchase...have you had a family member or friend ill on Medicare. You get a couple of weeks to get better or they kick your butt out of the hospital so you can go ahead and die. You really want the government to decide what kind of treatment you may receive if you are ill??? Heaven help us all! I think we're totally blessed when we have a Congress so deadlocked they can accomplish NOTHING. That way they and the President can do less damage to the country. We need to wake up and hold these yahoos in government accountable, and stop trying to take, take, take...it won't last long if we keep taking. Democracy historically only lasts apprx. 200 years - as long as it takes for the people to start taking subsistance and demanding more and more.

    Posted by Gail February 22, 08 01:22 PM
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  1. Yes, Rebecca--IF Hillary wins, I'll guarantee you it was rigged (just like George)! The Clintons and the Bushes are of the same kind. IF Hillary were to win, we will just have more of what we have experienced during the last eight years under the Bush administration. Instead of having FEW constitutional rights left, we will have none by the time she's through!

    Posted by Patricia February 22, 08 01:22 PM
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  1. I am very dissapointed about the election this day. People are so naive to listen to someone who talk well but don't have not have enough experience to work. What are wrong with people ? To me Hillary is the right president of the country. She has the whole picture of a wonderfull president of this country. I , my family and friends strongly supported Hillary Clinton and vote for her to the end.

    Posted by KIM BRODERICK February 22, 08 01:22 PM
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  1. At a girl Hillary. Show us more of who you are and we'll show you more of who we are....and who we're FOR on your election day. That closing remark was the essence of the personhood of the Hillary many more Americans are getting to know every day. You Go Wellesley!

    Posted by Purple Vassar February 22, 08 01:23 PM
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  1. There is noooooooooo way empty promises and rhetoric will outweigh proven experience for someone who wants to lead this great Country. My fellow Democrats, do not be swayed or blinded by charisma alone, Hillary Clinton may be a woman, but she has the best qualities and intentions to be the next leader of this country among the three leading presidential hopefuls. Go Hillary! We will never give up on you.

    Posted by SheBushman February 22, 08 01:23 PM
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  1. I'm sure the Republicans are just loving this. If we Democrats think we're so smart, why hasn't it occurred to someone to say, 'If we play this right we can have 16 years of democratic leadership. Elect Clinton as president and Obama as Vice-President, giving him the opportunity for growth and experience'. Hello! After some real experience with foreign and economic policy I believe he could be ready for the presidency. What I have observed is Obamites requiring and receiving not equal treatment by the news media and campaigners, but sacred cow status that simply will not fly in the real world. If Obama wins the nomination, we'll have another Republican president. It saddens me that the American voters are such sheep and respond to such empty phrases that sound pretty, but won't solve any of our problems. Didn't the last election teach you anything!

    Posted by Della February 22, 08 01:23 PM
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  1. And so, we enter...ENDGAME.

    Posted by JR Salazar February 22, 08 01:24 PM
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  1. Zach has it right.... Go McCain.

    Posted by franko February 22, 08 01:24 PM
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  1. I think that the american people shoul use a little COMMON SENSE in this election. Hillary has went after Oboma just like the republican will do at the end of this. How can she accuse him of not being ready.Is she ready? When there is a problem she can't solve is she going to blame someone else or is she going to cry to the american people about her personal problems? She can"t handle that she probable need to be counselled for Bill infidelity imagine you husband cheating on you and only you know about it, it still would be hard to trust again but fo the whole country to know. You know she was hurt and embarassed, and you think because they are still together all has been forgiven? Talk about being REAL. Women you know exactly what i am talking about.You know that Bill is being emotionally blackmailed into capaignning for her. He has experience don't you think he knows every thing he says or does can make or break her? What have he been doing? Showing the real side of who they really are. They both are selfish this is about them and them alone.THINK ABOUT IT PEOPLE> Women she playing the wounded bird because she knows that it is a whole lot of us women that have been HURT by our man. That why she knows she says she have your votes Emotional blackmail. What a hell of a reason to vote for her because she is a wounded women, she is not the only one.. She can't help you get over your hurt. Only you and your God can do that. Women are so quit to blamed the man, they did nothing that we didn't allow them to do . If it lasted pass the first time you allowed it. Learn to love yourself first. Taking over a mans position won't take the pain away either. The reason men treat us like they do is because some of us want to be like them. Being a women is one of Gods creation just like man. Women we actually teach our sons how to treat our daugthers. Women we have a important position in this world .we don"t have to go against God rule .He made woman to be a help met to man. Eve took over Adam and where did it leave us? Hillary may be a good senator but she can't leed this country she hasn"t healed from her wounds so how can she heal us.

    Posted by Cynthia an Ohio Obama supporter February 22, 08 01:24 PM
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  1. An honest question...
    Did Hillary really receive a standing ovation as I've seen so often reported or was that just the end of the debate and the audience was just paying their respects to both candidates ?
    Another thing that CNN botched last night... like the gale force winds blowing papers all over the place and distracting both the candidates and the viewer.

    Posted by PulSamsara February 22, 08 01:24 PM
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  1. If Obama is elected president, he should 'outlaw" the term African American.We are Americans!

    Posted by Bill February 22, 08 01:24 PM
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  1. I think that the american people shoul use a little COMMON SENSE in this election. Hillary has went after Oboma just like the republican will do at the end of this. How can she accuse him of not being ready.Is she ready? When there is a problem she can't solve is she going to blame someone else or is she going to cry to the american people about her personal problems? She can"t handle that she probable need to be counselled for Bill infidelity imagine you husband cheating on you and only you know about it, it still would be hard to trust again but fo the whole country to know. You know she was hurt and embarassed, and you think because they are still together all has been forgiven? Talk about being REAL. Women you know exactly what i am talking about.You know that Bill is being emotionally blackmailed into capaignning for her. He has experience don't you think he knows every thing he says or does can make or break her? What have he been doing? Showing the real side of who they really are. They both are selfish this is about them and them alone.THINK ABOUT IT PEOPLE> Women she playing the wounded bird because she knows that it is a whole lot of us women that have been HURT by our man. That why she knows she says she have your votes Emotional blackmail. What a hell of a reason to vote for her because she is a wounded women, she is not the only one.. She can't help you get over your hurt. Only you and your God can do that. Women are so quit to blamed the man, they did nothing that we didn't allow them to do . If it lasted pass the first time you allowed it. Learn to love yourself first. Taking over a mans position won't take the pain away either. The reason men treat us like they do is because some of us want to be like them. Being a women is one of Gods creation just like man. Women we actually teach our sons how to treat our daugthers. Women we have a important position in this world .we don"t have to go against God rule .He made woman to be a help met to man. Eve took over Adam and where did it leave us? Hillary may be a good senator but she can't leed this country she hasn"t healed from her wounds so how can she heal us.

    Posted by Cynthia an Ohio Obama supporter February 22, 08 01:25 PM
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  1. To Janie, Comment #37:
    You say she has helped NY, please tell me how. You have fallen victim to the Clinton machine the NY economy and tax problems have gotten worse since she has been in office and she has accomplished nothing. In fact, she has never run anything or accomplished anything. Her campaign is the largest organization she has ever been in charge of and it is being referred to as one of the worst run primary campaigns EVER… that is an excellent example of her managerial ability. Put down the Kool-Aid and examine the facts. We have two excellent choices for President, Obama and McCain… Hillary never was nor never will she ever be one of them.

    Posted by Nick February 22, 08 01:26 PM
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  1. I see the possibility that 1) All those fresh new people Obama is attracting to the campaign will stay involved because they have someone they are interested in and inspired by headed to the Oval Office. 2) No matter how moderate Obama might be, all these new supporters will be expecting and supporting change... not just in the campaign, but beyond. 3) The campaign promises (and folks, that is all Hillary's Healthcare Plan is at the moment -- a campaign promise) anyway, all these promises will shift to even more progressive ideas which is what 80% of us want in this country. 4) Corporations will be pushed out of Washington as human beings start participating in droves. More people, more democracy.

    By the way, to all those ardent women supporters of Hillary Clinton who say bitter things like "American is not ready for Clinton or a female president" No... I think American has moved past Clinton. We were ready for her 4 years ago. But now we see we have to move past corporate triangulation. (As the late Molly Ivins said.) We need to move to "inclusiveness" for people. Being bitter just makes you look small.

    To the Obama supporters: Be gracious. We have the upper hand. There's no need to belittle Clinton. She has made her own place in history. Hopefully she will return to the senate, learn from the progressive movement that (I hope) sweeps this country to a better future, and maybe run again in 8 years as a progressive candidate, free from the corporate cronies tied around her neck like an anchor. And she will admit her war vote was a mistake. She's not a horrible person. (Bush is a horrible person.) So let's not piss in our own pool.

    Clinton is a good politician. Obama is a great leader. (Which is shown by his ability to overcome the powerful Clinton political machine with such ease.)

    I'm rooting for America.

    Posted by Ruscle February 22, 08 01:26 PM
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  1. what foriegn policy? we dont even have a solid foriegn policy, every country hates our guts, we need someone like obama that can represent this country with the new face of america.

    Posted by just telln d truth February 22, 08 01:26 PM
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  1. Be very careful about what you say about the Clinton's. They have eliminated several people that have gotten in their way already. All wittnesses from Whitewater...Dead, plus a list that goes on and on, plane crashes, apparent suicides, shootings, auto crashes, you name it, their all gone if they had some association with the Clinton's that posed a threat to them and their quest for power. I'm surprised Obama is still alive!
    These are some very dangerous people, they have money with the right connections to eliminate anyone that gets in their way!
    Good ridance!!! We don't need people like you in power!

    Posted by Billy Walker February 22, 08 01:28 PM
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  1. Was I watching the same debate moment? Not only did I not see Senator Clinton's words as acknowledging some sort of inevitable defeat, but the gracious, honest, passionate, self-effacing and eloquent words that reflect an inner strength of character that I would hope for in any leader who is in touch with the people whose everyday struggles are the reason for their office-seeking. The political prognosticators tend never to leave well enough alone, to be always looking for, and usually cynically so, some hidden meaning or motivation behind the message. Accustomed as we are to their commentary, we overlook the simple, the straightforward, the honesty of spirit that we may just see if we truly listen.

    The Democrat Party is fortunate, indeed, to have 2 excellent candidates from which to choose, and we, the people, have had a primary campaign season that has given us a discussion of issues, values and proposed solutions to the very serious problems that we all face as a result of Bush-Cheney arrogance, secrecy, and budget-busting incompetency. Perhaps we for once could be thankful for a moment in time that, in the political roughness of our day, regrettably does not come often enough.

    Posted by R. J,. Fields, Jr. February 22, 08 01:28 PM
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  1. I don't mind Hillary, but I'm happy to see her gone. Despite the remarks of many on here, Hillary's campaign has been VERY negative compared to Obama's. The bottom line is that if we want real change in Washington, it HAS to come from an outsider. Hillary is just like McCain and the rest - corrupt, completely beholden to special interests, and a mud-flinger. What has impressed me most about Obama is that he hasn't yet gone negative - which makes the idea that he actually wants to change the politics in this country for the better believable.

    Hillary's campaign lied about Obama - saying his position on the Iraq war shifted - when in fact he's been resolutely and staunchly opposed from the beginning, and rightly so. She's tried to play the plagerism card despite the fact that her speeches are largely lifted from Bill's or in this case, from John Edwards.

    Barrack is the only one who has a shot to make real change happen. Will he do it? Who knows - but anyone else in this race gets in there and it's going to be business as usual. Let's shake up the system for Pete's sake.

    As for experience -- in what way does Hillary have any more experience than Barrack? You know who else has experience? Karl Rove and Dick Cheney. Guess they'd be great in the corner office too, huh?

    Posted by J.P. February 22, 08 01:28 PM
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  1. I don't see candidates as a 'war hero, a person of color, or a woman'. I see them as individuals selling us on their leadership. My sense is that Obama wants us to work together and has a positive message. Clinton promises to use her "experience" and will make things happen. People are drawn to Obama's pitch, hopeful that such a outcome is possible. Many resist Clinton's approach because it sounds like politics as usual. I have my doubts about both candidates for different reasons, as I do for McCain. What we need a SERVANT with proven leadership and integrity. A tall order. The first public figure that comes to mind that fits this criterion is Colin Powell. But, alas, he isn't in the mix. Let's look deep to ask questions to find if the three candidates, (above) are "servant:" material

    Posted by Dennis February 22, 08 01:29 PM
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  1. If the media would stop making it sound like Obama has already won, maybe we could have a REAL election. But the talking heads just keep at it. I think the rest od us should just boycott elections and let the media who think they are so much smarter then the rest of us just run the country. NOT!
    Give me a break.

    Posted by Ellen February 22, 08 01:29 PM
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  1. To John of comment 34.

    John, you have a plan... stick to it! We need to cull the herd of chauvinist bigots.

    Posted by GTC February 22, 08 01:30 PM
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  1. Hillary is employing a tactic similar to what she used in New Hampshire. Only this time she didn't cry! She is still playing the sympathy card! Don't be fooled!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by Joe Momma February 22, 08 01:30 PM
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  1. John Hydler (comment #6), for someone who had so much to say --ungrammatically and with several misspellings, at that -- you are extremely ignorant about how the presidential primary system works. The electoral college has nothing to do with the process of electing a president until we get to the general election. Therefore, the electoral college cannot be very close at this time. The number of electors accorded to each state is the sum total of a state's senators and representatives. The winning candidate in the general election must win at least 270 electoral votes to become the president-elect. This is completely different from candidates trying to win delegates in the primary elections. Perhaps you should take remedial civics and history classes before
    you post further opinions. An English class wouldn't do you any harm, either.

    Posted by Tom February 22, 08 01:33 PM
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  1. Fear and hate that you see put forth on this site, in our present administration, and in the movies, I guess are a sign of the times. All 3 candidates (Obama, Clinton and McCain) are good candidates and are the best we have had in years and they are all too good for so many people with shallow thinking. Why would anyone put up with the likes of most of you unless they truely believed they can help our country and get us back on the right path. I don't happen to agree with many of McCain's policies and I like Hillary's the best but then I have studied the issues instead of taking a purely emotional and predjudice stand! Of course, I know talking sense to many of you is like getting a lecture from your mother so go ahead and keep doing what you are doing and this country will fall!!!

    Posted by louise from Kansas February 22, 08 01:33 PM
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  1. IT IS HARD TO COME UP WITH DIFFERANT SAYINGS THIS FAR IN TO THE CAMPAUNE WITH OUT SAYING SOMETHING THAT SOME BODY HAS NOT SAID BEFOURE BUT TO GO BACK TO THE 1940s AND THEN AGAIN TO THE SIXTYS IS TO ME TRYING TO JUSTIFY MY POSION BY SOME ONE ELSES COMMENTARY. IS REDIC. TO SAY THE LEASE

    INSTEAD OF LISINSONING TO WHAT IS BEING SAID IS AN INJUSTICE TO THE SPEAKER AS WELL AS THE PARTY. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW ALL THE MEDIA CAN BE AGAINST HILLARY AND JUST NOW SEEM TO BE LETTING UP THEATTUDE OF HARDBALL IS ONE EXAMPLE

    Posted by CHARLIE RUTLEDGE February 22, 08 01:33 PM
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  1. After reading the long list of blogs, the only issue clear to me is that our school system is really in trouble.

    Posted by Frank February 22, 08 01:34 PM
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  1. To John of comment 34.

    John, you have a plan... stick to it!

    The herd needs culling of remaining chauvinist bigots.

    Posted by GTC February 22, 08 01:34 PM
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  1. As a Libertarian, I like what Obama stands for, emotionally, but not much in policy. Both HRC and BHO are statists, not much talk about taking personal responsibility for ones self or about restoring freedoms taken away for the sake of "security"

    Posted by Kerkekard Jones February 22, 08 01:34 PM
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  1. Both are great candidates however, Hillary could have come out on top by now had she not been relying 2 much on her husband. Although Bill was a great man but this is the battle where she has to tackle it single handedly in order to prove that she is the MAN for the job without relying on someone else to do the execution for her. To me that's THE WEAKNESS LINK! and that is why she is lagging behind at this stage of the fight. Remember she was leading the poll from the beginning! Having said that the only way for Hill to come back now is to take a step back, a deep breath and go at it again but this time she will need to do take control of the whole campain by putting everyone, including Bill, in the back sit and give it one good last fight b4 this election ended.

    Posted by TwentyFirstGuru February 22, 08 01:37 PM
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  1. I'm sorry for us all if we believe that Hillary Clinton's line of "what ever happens..." is a sign of surrender. In fact that statement constituted her most potent assault in the debate. Have we forgotten the same under-dog ploy that won her New Hampshire? I hope Obama' supporters see thru this gimmick and don't let down their guard.

    Posted by Oladipo Amolegbe February 22, 08 01:37 PM
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  1. it's going to be a lot harder for obama to beat mccain than hillary.

    Posted by lohoc February 22, 08 01:38 PM
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  1. Hillary Clinton is definately the best choice for President. If she does lose the Democratic nomination, this Democrat will vote Republican for John McCain. Obama is an unknown, who is surrounded by characters I disklike such as a wife that isn't proud of America, a church and a minister that promotes racist views, and a slum lord finacier. The only thing I do know about Obama is he has voted 130+ times "present" (meaning he never took a stance on an issue), and has blundered 5 times voting, stating he had made a mistake when he casted his vote (how that is possible I don't know), and last but definately not least, he has accomplished nothing politcally of worth or substance, just like his rhetoric "xeroxed copied" speeches.

    Posted by William February 22, 08 01:39 PM
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  1. I THINK THE BEST THING FOR ALL CONCERN WOULD BE FOR HILLARY TO STEP DOWN, OBAMA NEEDS TO MAKE READY FOR THE BIG BATTLE COMING UP WITH REPUBLICANS, IF WE ARE TO TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY....
    Obama has proven he has managfement skills just by the way he has run his campaign. How many of us have said over the course of the last 25 years or more that,it's time to clean up Washington? We are all tired of party votes, with few in the parties remembering that they are suppose to represent the peolpe of this country. Over the last seven years plus, we have watched our resources being sent to other countries as well as our jobs. We have become a third world in our own country...loss of jobs, and job markets, lost housings, and far too many with no insurance coverage or the means to pay for coverage. all this while we send our young to die in Iraq, to rebuild iraq. Wake up America...
    IT'S TIME TO REBUILD AMERICA, and on the illegals that are here, it is time they come into the country the right way, and the legal way... IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE HERE..... OBAMA IN 08

    Posted by Judith February 22, 08 01:40 PM
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  1. i guess all what this election comments and analysis is all about is -what is not so right about Hillary, not so much of issues and the most important factor of who can really be a leader not only of america but of the world. i believe the american electorate and sorry to say all those so called analysist are missing the point(s) by focusing not on substance of who can be a better leader among the two. but unfortunately Clinton is getting the bashing here not for the fact that she can't be a true leader (because nobody has said Obama will) but because something about her is just not right for most american electorates. for me this really missing the points. leadership is not just about words, not just about hope, or the feel good effect that Obama is spreading like a wild fire across america, it about issues, character, ability and experience, which i believe Obama lacks. the debate show (forget the ameracanised hollywood sensasionalism) today who among Obama and Clinton is ready to be President of the world. For me Obama needs at least other 8 years tutelage to be that president. (in my humble opinion, this election is has already gone sadly to the republican)

    Posted by Yomi Martyns February 22, 08 01:40 PM
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  1. I remain hopeful that we will dodge the bullet with the Clinton name on it. She has experience, to be sure. Remember her idea for health care in the Bill's first term? Her first instinct is to issue national ID cards and beat the problem to death with bags full of money. Remember that Hillary was a terror in the halls of the White House - the picture of arrogant power even though she held no real position (ask the White House travel agents). Give her the power of the Presidency and we will all be in trouble. She and her husband govern by opinion poll and have no true agenda of their own other than naked ambition and a thirst for power. Sadly, Hillary is nothing more than an American Avita Peron.


    Posted by Dan February 22, 08 01:41 PM
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  1. Typical, someone wants to bloster HRC by using bad facts and false analogies.
    Reagan could not have supported Usama Bin Laden in his "fight against the Russians" since the Russians pulled out of Afghanistan in 1989 and UBL arrived in 1996. Bill Clinton allowed UBL to depart Sudan and go to Afghanistan because his administration did not recognize the threat and he had no political capital because on the ongoing Lewinsky saga. Obama did not waffle about dealing with Cuba, he made a rational answer to the question, that it would depend about the substance od the negotiations. He was willing to see that "talks" fro the sake of talks was what Cuba and thier propaganda machine wants. HRC just would jump in and be used? By the way, I am a Libertarian that will probably vote for Mcain. Just trying to keep the discussion about real facts, not made up ones. As a Clinton supporter I understand thats how you think the world operates, but now with her conceding (Thats is what it was since she took it almost word for word from another consession speech) who will you make up facts for now?

    Posted by RSchmidt February 22, 08 01:43 PM
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  1. Yeah, Zach. Because prior to this debate, McCain would have needed to go up against both Hillary and Obama.

    Posted by Kristen February 22, 08 01:44 PM
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  1. Go-bama! Go-bama! Go-bama!

    Posted by Sam February 22, 08 01:46 PM
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  1. When Hillary mentioned the poor soldiers at the end, she failed to mentioned that her vote for the Iraq war is what put the soldiers in the hospital in the first place.
    People need to realize that experience does not always prove good judgement. I dont know how anyone who voted for the Iraq war and sees these poor soldiers can live with themselves.
    That is why the American people take change over experience and that is why Obama will win the nomination and presidency.

    Posted by Sue February 22, 08 01:46 PM
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  1. @Steve Wade: You are wrong on that if FL and MI counted Obama will be far behind in delegates and will not catch up. You probably forget that Obama won the votes cast on the election day in FL. You probably ignore the fact that she hardly outdid Obama in delegate rich districts. Even giving Obama zero in Michigan, at best, she'd be up only by a few delegates that I doubt she'd even be leading in delegates. According to the current Math, Obama bests her in total votes cast including FL and MI and giving Obama zero in Michigan.

    Posted by ftroit February 22, 08 01:46 PM
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  1. On day one of the next administration, we need a president who can unite this country. Obama could.....as could McCain. Hillary would just polarize us more. Much as I would like to support a woman for president, I cannot support her despite her experience and expertize.

    Posted by Mary February 22, 08 01:47 PM
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  1. Why do so many of these Hillary supporters have such terrible grammar? Looks like all the people with a brain have already switched to Obama.

    Posted by Shirley Gutierrez February 22, 08 01:48 PM
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  1. What difference does it make who wins the nomination?

    Posted by Democrats blew it February 22, 08 01:49 PM
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  1. Plagiarism is when you take credit for words that aren't your own. If your buddy helps you write a paper, even if you talked about it, should you get credit for it? I think you'd probably be in trouble. Is your professor going to buy the excuse that "we're friends, he knew I was going to use his words"? No. So why not just acknowledge where you got the line from? Obama could have easily mentioned Patrick's name. So ok, they're friends and they didn't think it was necessary. This sounds like politics as usual to me. Backroom deals. As far as lifting from John Edwards', check out this video. http://www.abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4320673
    These people are politicians. They are ALL the same, they just have different names. Obama, with his shady Exelon and Rezko dealings and the campaign money they were supposed to return but lost track of and flip flopping on Cuba and similar policies to Clinton's make him NO DIFFERENT. What's scary is not the plagiarism but his vies on foreign relations. Yes, let's end the war but let's not engage with terrorist states with no conditions. They'll just do what they want when they want and we will have caved to them. Is there such a thing as being kinder and gentler to factions like those in Iran and North Korea?

    Posted by BN February 22, 08 01:49 PM
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  1. WOW.. I am amazed at the comments ....
    While Hillary is a great Politician she has been around the old machine for quite some time... The great thing about Obama is not only his speeches but that he speaks from the heart. He believes in what he his saying. We are hard pressed to find a politician like him and one of the best things about him is that he is not tainted by the old political machine. The status quo are really used to sound bites and whats hot for the moment.
    America is looking for a changing of the system not just the guard. While Hillary would have done some great things for the country, I don't think she would have gone far enough.. (ie her failed attempt at health care reform)

    Posted by tech68 February 22, 08 01:51 PM
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  1. McCain is very, very senior and wouldn't make it a yr with all the stress & pressure of leading our nation. He lies...Bill Clinton all over again and once a liar always a liar and let us not forget he was involved in the keating 5 five which cost taxpayers 3.4 billion dollars! Hillary is a very intelligent, well educated woman and can continue to help this nation as Senator of N.Y.
    Go Obama!

    Posted by Madison February 22, 08 01:52 PM
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  1. Hillary is a fake!! In Iowa she had a plant in the audiance, this back fired on her when the plant was called on and didn't ask the question that was given to her by the Clinton campain. Hillary claims to know nothing about this, so how did she know to call on this person in the first place. The plant stated she was aproached by the campain, and was given a question to ask Hillary. She threw the ball back at her and went public with what had happened.
    Can you say "FAKE" ??
    she burned her own bridges and she can blame no one but herself.
    Now it seems as shes trying to clear the waters with Obama in hopes of becomeing his VP running mate!
    She's slicker that willie!!

    Posted by Brian February 22, 08 01:52 PM
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  1. Omama's candidacy has been but a mirror reflecting great images of the past that we admire. He has sounded like King and Kennedy, copied practically word for word phrases from an accomplished friend with out acknowledging at the time he was doing it. Even his wife has worn a Jackie hairdo, it appears all to remind us of the Kennedy years. He is a chameleon changing to what best suits his needs at the time. I have yet to recognize who the real Obama is. I do see glimpses. Last night after Hillary received a standing ovation he could not get off the stage fast enough and greeted the audience with out a smile. I see a man that likes to point out others mistakes but has a hard time when his are pointed out. I see an American public that is willing to put up with gender bias. If Obama had a sign held up at one of his rallies saying Iron my shirts the American public would have been in an uproar. We would have called it discrimination and not stood for it. At last nights debate a few people in the audience booed at Hillary's xerox remark but the rest of the audience was silent. It was a clever remark and it makes me wonder if the audience were afraid to clap for it in fear of seeming prejudiced. Remarks have been made if Obama does not get the presidency that it will tear this country apart. Black voters and young voters will be disappointed become upset or with draw from the voting process. I am afraid we have not come as far as we should in this country if we have to worry about whether or not we are voting for the right color for President. We need to vote for the right person to be president and that choice should not be based on color or gender. I am a woman, I changed from being an Independent to Democrat because I believe in Hillary. I will vote for who I think will best serve my country and I am afraid if Obama is the Democratic choice, I will vote McCain for President.

    Posted by Maureen February 22, 08 01:53 PM
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  1. None of the candidates is qualified to be President of the United States or any other offices. They forgot the this is a Republic and in a Republic the will of the people is what counts and NOT the AGENDA of the candidates.
    These people have yet to learn what the U.S. Constitution says about a Republican system of Government.
    When Ross Perot was asked about what he would do about certain things following a Press Conference, he answered that "it was up to the people" and not him.
    No matter who wins, there will be no Republican form of Government in the USA. Just political and judicial oppression as usual. Business as usual.


    us as soon as

    Posted by Allisio Rex February 22, 08 01:53 PM
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  1. Too bad the media had to blow this one by blowing obama.
    If he wins we are doomed.

    Posted by lisa February 22, 08 01:54 PM
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  1. People supporting Obama are buying into the "Oprah Factor" (i.e. "Read this book! Watch this movie! Go on this diet! Vote for this guy for president!!!"), which is truly disheartening. The man is fluff, not substance. Sure, you can say over and over the word "change", but that's said at every presidential election. Senator Clinton has the knowledge, the know-how and the guts to make it happen. It's the smugness of BO -- that all he has to do is say nothing and the nomination is his -- that has me biting my lip in irritation. Clinton has stepped up to the cause and she's being dismissed for it. She's too tough? She's too masculine. She sheds a tear? She's too girly. It's not fair, and it shouldn't be happening.

    I very proudly worked for the National Health Service of England for six years and I know that healthcare for all works. Senator Clinton has been bold enough to address the issue, while BO suggests a vastly inferior option to the dilemma.

    Come on, people. I'm sorry about your 2-4 hour roundtrip commutes to work, what's playing on your iPod, texting while driving, and having your McMansion repossessed because you can't pay the mortgage that you should never have been offered in the first place. Pay attention to the issues! We don't need another unqualified candidate in the White House for the next four to eight years after the disaster that was/is "W".

    That being said: "Thank god for the 22nd amendment...."

    She's the right candidate.

    Posted by LDZ February 22, 08 01:57 PM
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  1. What everyone fails to see, is that neither has clinched the nomination, that intelligent objective Democrats will have to make a choice. One where, some personal relationships with Washington, DC personnel will make a difference. The job requires, NO DEMANDS, that the administration that follows the disaster we are currently experiencing, will have people who can do the job. Who knows those people better? Hillary or Obama? For me it's an easy answer.
    Hillary doesn't HAVE to be personable just capable. Hillary need not posess rhetoric but solutions. Hillary doesn't need to DO every job, but build a competent staff......
    I am a Democrat, I support my party, but I do have a candidate... HILLARY

    Posted by Linda February 22, 08 01:58 PM
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  1. EVERYONE I KNOW IN OHIO IS VOTING HILLARY! IT'S NOT OVER YET.

    Posted by JOHN SMITH February 22, 08 01:58 PM
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  1. Clinton is a socialist of the worst kind, a true hypocrite. Any candidate but clinton. A cold, dead goat before clinton.

    Posted by Chilla February 22, 08 01:58 PM
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  1. Go HIllary!!!! I will never give up on you becomming the next PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!!!! If it's any consolation to any of you that support anybody but HILLARY, you need to sit back and look at the REALITY of this election and wise up to who is best for us! The only answer that would be is HILLARY CLINTON FOR OUR NEXT DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by Diane February 22, 08 02:01 PM
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  1. Hillary's so called "moment" was no moment at all. It was a scripted, manipulative chess move. And it was of the worse kind. It used emotion and kindness as weapons of subtle persuation. It was not sincere and therefor the worst kind of hypocricy.

    Posted by Papa RadJoy February 22, 08 02:02 PM
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  1. McCain, you must be one crazy fool.

    Posted by Dan February 22, 08 02:02 PM
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  1. Um...for those of you who WISH to claim Sen. Clinton was plagiarizing Edwards...

    In the interest of full disclosure, I found these on the Clinton website - but the sources are cited so you can go and ck them yourselves - Lexus Nexus is a good search engine for those of you who have access to it.

    Laura Bush: 'Whatever happens will be fine' [El Paso Times, 5/19/00]

    NBA Star Shaquille O'Neal: ‘We'll be fine, no matter what happens.’ [AP, 10/8/03]
    Actress Lindsay Lohan: ‘No matter what happens, we're going to be fine.’ [AP, 4/19/07]

    Former Redskin Dexter Manley: 'Whatever happens, I'm going to be fine.' [Washington Post, 7/26/98]

    Former Redskin Gus Frerotte: 'I look forward to whatever happens. We're going to be fine.' [Washington Times, 12/22/98]

    Notre Dame football player Tom Zbikowski: 'Whatever happens, we're going to be fine back there.' [Notre Dame football player Tom Zbikowski, 4/22/07]

    Angels GM Bill Stoneman: 'Whatever happens, I'm going to be fine.' [Los Angeles Times, 2/22/03]

    Former Giant Christian Peter: 'And whatever happens, I'm going to be fine.' [Asbury Park Press, 1/29/01]

    Chicago Cub Larry Rothschild: 'I'm not worried about that. Whatever happens, I'm going to be fine.' [St. Petersburg Times, 4/1/01]

    Diamondback Edgar Gonzalez: 'Whatever happens, I’ll be fine because I’m in the big leagues.' [Edgar Gonzalez, Diamondbacks, 5/2/07]

    Hockey player Richard Hamula: 'Whatever happens I'll be fine with but hopefully I can still stick around here.' [Richard Hamula, hockey player, 9/20/02]

    Leonard Hamm, interim commissioner for the Baltimore City Police Department: ‘Whatever happens, I’m going to be fine.’ [Baltimore Afro-American, 11/19/04]

    Posted by DCitti February 22, 08 02:02 PM
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  1. Hillary's so called "moment" was no moment at all. It was a scripted, manipulative chess move. And it was of the worse kind. It used emotion and kindness as weapons of subtle persuation. It was not sincere and therefor the worst kind of hypocricy.

    Posted by Papa RadJoy February 22, 08 02:02 PM
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  1. I love to hear liberals talk about the Trickle Down Theory and Pres. Regan. If you actually even understood economics you would be a conservative. But rant on J.H.

    Posted by Erik W. February 22, 08 02:03 PM
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  1. You Obama supporters need to do your research and read his Senate Voting record:
    Voting History
    Statistic: Barack Obama missed 185 of 1098 votes (17%) since Jan 6, 2005 (Extremely Poor relative to peers).

    A candidate w/ a mediocre voting record is not a quality our next President should have. Too bad people don't do the "real" research to become knowledgable voters. America deserves better than this.

    Posted by A.W. Langston February 22, 08 02:03 PM
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  1. Voting for McCain would be votig for another Bush. Voting for Obama is voting for a speaker with big words that could end up tragically empty. Voting for Clinton is voting for a person who has the right ideas and integrity to follow through with them.

    Posted by Bastian Brandt February 22, 08 02:03 PM
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  1. Hillary had some nice words, but Obama won the debate on substance. She ended up looking silly at a couple of points in the debate where they were talking about the issues. She can't win with pretty words if she is claiming that words don't matter.

    Posted by John February 22, 08 02:04 PM
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  1. Think we need a Presidency based on realism, and then one based on idealism. Every 'conservative' leaning publication has been excedingly gentle with Obama...my question is why? Mr. Obama's statement that the Clinton campaign has had its chance to critique him, and therefore, he shouldn't expect any 'suprises' from the Right is utterly naieve. He will be 'swift boated' beyond imagination, and we will lose the White House again!

    Posted by Lorna Redd February 22, 08 02:04 PM
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  1. Hillary is just ideas, However, the American people are not suffering from lack of ideas. We are suffering from partisan politics and politicians who squabble over legislations and paralyze any ideas from being implemented. We need to stop this silly bickering and unite democrats, republicans and independence to work for the common good of America. Obama said it best: "Washington has become a place where ideas die". The Clinton's are known for their divisive and polarizing ways of conducting business in white house. If she is elected, we will see this country continue on its perilous journey embarked by Bush. Obama is a uniter, He has a true leadership quality to bring everyone together under the same roof and start putting this country back on track.

    Posted by Mike Kebe February 22, 08 02:04 PM
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  1. What goes up must come down. Obama is rising so fast as a balloon full of gas because of frustration generated by Bush's administration. People want a vengeance but Obama's solutions will not be effective. Sending troops to Iraq was a mistake and wrong but pulling them out now would be also wrong. Obama is just a pure demagogue and would easily collapse after a torpedo or swift boats attacks. He is just untested. Even if he chose Hillary as his running mate, I would vote for McCain as probably as many Clinton's supporters. Voting for Obama is gambling. We are now facing recession and we must choose a more realistic way, a tangible way. Dreams are out of the equations.

    Posted by nT February 22, 08 02:05 PM
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  1. Senator Clinton is more experienced to lead our Nation than Barrack Obama's untested rhetoric speeches.

    Posted by Manny February 22, 08 02:07 PM
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  1. All these so called experienced politicians have screwed up our government. I say vote for Obama,! No one couldn't be as bad as George W, I mean come on he's ruined our respectability in the world!

    It will be refreshing to have someone who thinks before he talks, gets the country involved in the changes that need to happen. McCain will keep us in this stupid oil war. Lets straighten out our country as we deal with foreign policy. Young fresh ideas instead of old stoggy business as usual.

    Posted by DMVO February 22, 08 02:08 PM
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  1. I' am a blackman that supported Mrs Clinton, The great lesson she taught (till death due we part ) if all our women would learn this one lesson (men included) we could stop crime, our most precious commodity (our children) pay the price.
    Barack Obama being Crist-like brings tears to my eyes.
    No matter how much they steal (Republicans) the night will always surrender to the light !!! Obama " Do the right thing "

    Posted by Lawrence February 22, 08 02:08 PM
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  1. The really sad thing about this upcoming election is that all candidates, no matter what party, will say whatever it takes to get elected. They will make any promise, then once elected, they will cater to whatever special interest group that gave them the most money to push their agenda. Are we all really so blind to think that any of them will do anything to benefit the "People" of this country. All that has happened since President Bush was elected is that the Democrats have leveled one accusation after another against him, not carring whether they were true or not. The fact is, he has spent so much time defending himself, it was virtually impossible to get anything done. Relax Democrats.......The Republicans did the same thing to President Clinton while he was in office. Who do you think pays for
    all of these Special Inquiries and Hearings? We do. I don't think it's a very prudent
    way to spend the hard earned money they collect from us each year in taxes .
    Nothing ever gets accomplished anymore because politicians in both parties are
    too concerned with maintaining their power and trying to make the other party or
    leader look bad. They are so blinded by their attempt to maintain power and
    control, that they forget about everything else. Their oaths, their responsibilities,
    their country and who really put them in office. If we as a nation don't change how
    we conduct our "Business as Usual" and find a way to start working together for
    the betterment of our "COUNTRY", we are going to destroy ourselves from within. I
    really don't know who I'll vote for, because, as it is, no matter who wins, they'll have
    to spend their entire term fighting the baseless accusations of the other party.
    Nothing will have been accomplished. Our country will be further in debt and
    probably recession. Infaltion will continue to climb. Health Care will be out of
    reach for most people. More people will loose their homes and jobs. College
    tuition costs will be so high that an average person will not be able to afford to go
    anymore. We'll have millions more undocumented aliens in our country and still
    won't have addressed the issue.The way other countries perceive us will continue
    to be negative. Instead of recognizing us for the most giving nation in the world,
    we'll be hated for being the biggest bully in the world. Something has to change.
    Politicians take note: If you really "CARE" about this country......Your Country......you
    had better find away to get along with each other and you'd better change your
    priorities from maintaining power to maintaining a healthy and safe country. That
    is the kind of "Change" that is most important.
    It's what your constituents want, need and demand.

    Posted by Kevan J. Sanders February 22, 08 02:10 PM
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  1. ELECTRIC!!! This was the closest thing to a REAL DEBATE that this boomer can remember seeing in a long time. It was America at its best. Two capable public servants going 'head to head' in a battle of ideas and vision. That's how debates should be. The prize is nothing less than the hearts and minds and trust of the American people.
    Obama has built a good organization around himself. He has received consistently good advice. His message has been clear and simple from the beginning: Put an end to 'Business as Usual' in Washington and take America back from the corporate lobbyists and monied interests! He reminded us last night that his plans don't lack details or substance. That's why he continues to be on a roll in terms of raising contributions at a grass roots level. Change is what Americans want after 7 years of GWB! His campaign also seems to be managing their funds well. He's running a tight and positive campaign. He inspires confidence and earns respect! That says good things about what direction he would take this country.

    Posted by Pete February 22, 08 02:12 PM
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  1. "I think Hillary would make a great president. I was formerly from NY while she was Senator there. She helped NY so much with her political expertise. I am not giving up on her because we need a president that cares for the people, not one with false promises. You go Hillary!!!!!!!"

    There you have it. The people whom Mrs. Clinton has represented love her and know how her experience and qualifications have improved their lives. Even Mr. Obama's own supporters are stuck for an answer when asked about his accomplishments.

    Keep listening to the media. The media gave us George Bush for eight years. I would venture to guess that anyone on this forum who is bashing any of these candidates hasn't read a non-fiction book in years and gets all they know from media video clips and sound bites. In short, you are the problem with our country and not just the policies of this administration or any other. Read Alan Greenspan's book and find out who he thought was the most intellingent president he worked with. O.K. I'll save you the read since you probably wouldn't make the effort anyway. It was Bill Clinton. Also, it was Bill Clinton who finally created a budget surplus after decades of Republican economic policies.

    Obama is a media package. He is a product. That's why the media loves him. He doesn't really force you to think. He just wants you to "feel good about America." He makes good sound bites. No one really wants to hear about the tough times that are ahead and the sacrifices we will have to make. Most of America can't even save 5% of their income. We have no discipline and that matches with our lack of continuning education.

    Be forewarned though that other countries do have that discipline and they want what we have and they are learning what they need to know to get it.

    Vote for Hillary.

    Posted by Tommy February 22, 08 02:12 PM
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  1. Obama is a bright, talented guy for sure, but lacks the experience necessary to be President. He can give a great speech, and is inpsiring, but he lacks the fundamental understanding of the World necessary to be a great President. It is incomprehensible to me that one year after coming to the US Senate from the Illinois State Senate Obama sought the Presidency. Even JFK served in the US Senate for eight years before he was elected President.

    Obama may have not gone negative in the campaign vis-a-vis Hillary but he has a negative almost socialistic view of the Country that is too far to the left to ever build the consensus that all you wide eyed believers think he will. This is a great country with great opportunity for those that seek it, and even his Princeton and Harvard Law educated wife doesn't see that. It is no wonder that Obama is the candidate of the 20 year olds who think experience doesn't matter.

    I am a life long Democrat, and I hope I am wrong, but he does not have what it takes to be President. This is rare opportunity to regain the White House for the Democrats and it is a shame that Hillary has been abandoned by the less fortunate whom she fought her entire life for in favor of a candidate that none of us truly know. Time will tell. GO HILLARY

    Posted by George Mason (NYC) February 22, 08 02:13 PM
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  1. We Americans have listened to Hillary and Obama for weeks now. At best both are only novice candidates for the Presidency of the United States. Saying a lot of things that the common American wants to hear is one thing, leading the most powerful nation on earth, is yet another issue for certain. In my estimate, voting either of these two individuals into the office of President , would be liken to allowing the janitor to take over as CEO of the company...Doomed to fail. If this is the best two choices the Democrates have. The party is in great trouble.

    MANY YEARS OF DEDICATION AND EXPERIENCE ARE NEEDED TO FULFILL THIS DEMANDING POSITION...AT LEAST THAT IS THE WAY IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN PAST YEARS...

    Have we changed that much as a nation? If so, we are a nation of people in a tailspin towards failure.

    Posted by Jerry McClellan February 22, 08 02:15 PM
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  1. Again, Hillary will try anything to win. Last night she came across as hinting at a concession, but it was a Trojan horse, i.e., a ploy to get inside the heads of everyone. And it probably worked on a few unsuspecting souls. But I jusr ran the numbers. If Hillary wins Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania the way the polls say today, and wins the rest of the voted delegates 50/50, both very unlikely scenarios for Hillary, she would still need 60 percent of the unpledged super delegates to beat Obama. Considering that she and Bill have stolen only 57 percent of the super delegates already declared, she is not going to win. Can't she see this? Romney did in his race. Her staying the the race now only proves everyone's point that she is a divisive person. By staying in the race longer, she will do more damage to the Democrats than John McCain can possibly inflict. Perhaps she, like Huckabee, is hoping for a miracle. Mike Huckabee just might get his miracle, but I am afraid Hillary has already gotten hers, and his name is Barack Obama.

    Posted by Ed M February 22, 08 02:16 PM
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  1. Yes, indeed, if Clinton is not the Dem nominee, I would go for McCain. I don't need Obama who does his best copying others' ideas and words. What a prof.

    Posted by tiddle February 22, 08 02:17 PM
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  1. Are all of you McCain supporters forgetting who stood by Dubyah for re-election? He's just another Dubyah in disguise..His smart-ass comments (Bomb-bomb-Iran for one) will only divide us further on the foreign front. And, please tell me you are not supporting a "100 year war"...His whatever it takes philosophy about the Iraq war is so near-sighted and pig-headed. Do we really need 4 more years of stubborn, narrow-minded so-called leadership in the white house? Vote Obama. He has the gift to bring us together as one nation. I am a woman and really wanted to support Hillary. But, along the way, her rhetoric was too much the same ol' Washington politic. Our country is desperate for a leader with fresh, new and innovative solutions. Someone who will bring peace and hope to all Americans. Obama is that leader.

    Posted by Joan C. February 22, 08 02:20 PM
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  1. Do not understand how anyone can say if Obama is in, they would vote for McCain. I could vote for either Hillary or Obama, but certainly not McCain. He is old, tired, and a clone of George W. Bush. We will stay in Iraq, stay with low taxes for wealthy, and probably Rove will be back in the White House. We need either Democrat, and anyone who says they will vote for McCain, is just plain foolish!

    Posted by Dee February 22, 08 02:28 PM
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  1. Your headline is a lie. Mrs. Clinton never directly said she would not go on beyond March 4. How can you possibly write something like this?

    Posted by Clarity February 22, 08 02:29 PM
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  1. Hillary feels called by her FAITH and by her UPBRINGING to do what she can to give others the same opportunities and blessings she had and has. Hillary is always, has always been and will always be hopefull. She has never stopped hoping and has always been strong when tested so……..Yes she Can !!!

    It is the Media that is presenting Obama on a silver platter to the American People for the benefit of the Republicans so they will continue their reign….. thanks to the Obamacans….American people wake up and smell the coffee!!!!

    Posted by Angelina February 22, 08 02:32 PM
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  1. Like many Americans, I cannot wait untill Hillary Clinton leaves the stage. She and Bill have in many respects tempted their fate by well over staying their welcome. Their relentless ambition, self promotion and pandering to the lowest common denominator make me sick. Hillary' Clinton is one of the most deceitful, fraudulent and inauthentic politicians of our time. She would lose a popularity contest to Richard Milhous Nixon. She is a faux feminist and her appeals for sympathy ring hollow to anyone on the right side of the bell curve. It is sad that with a dumbed down electorate that pulling off such complete and utter fakeness is somehow able to be spun as a successful night. Lost in all of this, is the attempt by Clinton Campaign surrogates to drive up the margin of Clinton's victory in NY. New York, the Senator's hometown has a VOTE FRAUD Investigation going on. Hillary was uncertain that she could win her adopted home state cleanly. SEE: Citizens Union Calls for Investigation into the Reporting of Primary Votes http://www.citizensunion.org/news_release/02_19_08.html

    Posted by Christopher London February 22, 08 02:34 PM
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  1. let's say obama is your president, are you happy now? will you and your family be living off president obama's great speeches?
    maybe, you will be so happy that you can forget all your troubles, such as foreclosed homes, lack of health insurance, paying high prices at the pump, etc...and be happy every happy day of your life. btw, your wife and mother can relax and enjoying oprah's show every happy night of their lives.
    go figure, my friend.
    btw, if obama gets nominated, i will vote for McCain, period.

    Posted by tony February 22, 08 02:40 PM
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  1. I agree with Joe #87.
    The Clintons don't quit, they scheme. That was a rehearsed closing. Obama depends on turning out a high vote to win. He has more of the first time voters who are less committed to the process. They may hope these voters won't show because they're not needed. Whatever the ploy, mendacity is a basic component of her being like blood and muscle.

    Posted by ron m February 22, 08 02:42 PM
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  1. joan C, how much do you know about obama?

    Posted by tony February 22, 08 02:43 PM
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  1. I am not American, and probably never will be. But having followed the Presidential Elections closely, and having watched many of the last 18 debates, I think I am convinced that Hillary Clinton ought to be the next President of the United States. She was simply inspiring in those closing moments.

    Journalists are, with all due respect, skilled at putting a spin on almost anything. Calling that a concession speech is hardly doing justice to what could easily have been called among Clinton's most moving words in this race. Did you see the standing ovation she received? In no other primary debate this past year has a candidate received a standing ovation. And that should count for something.

    I still have great faith in the American people. I believe the American people are smart enough to see through the cynicism her campaign has been meted with by journalists for the last one year. I believe the American people know the difference between a concession speech (which that clearly wasnt) and the words of a President in the making.

    Please let us not listen to foolish journalists who want to serve spice. Lets listen to our hearts and minds instead, and vote Hillary.

    Posted by Varun Jain February 22, 08 02:46 PM
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  1. I picked McCain from the get go. I even have a blog San Diego for McCain but I must say that I did not expect Obama to be a up lifter and leader. I need to see passion in McCain other wise I am jumping parties. I do not the same ol same ol.

    Posted by James Mata February 22, 08 02:49 PM
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  1. Poor Hillary.........too bad. Maybe she should cry again.

    Posted by Bernie February 22, 08 02:52 PM
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  1. The Democratic race is faaaar from over! I hear too many haters saying good-bye. Only fools (& Republicans) believe that the Democratic Party will be able to push either Clinton or Obama out of the presidential race, without alienating their supporters. It's time to get our Party behind the DREAM TEAM; it's time to cut the bickering. Divided we fall; united we will win the race in November.
    "Yes we will! Yes we can!" Clinton&Obama '08 !!!

    Posted by Observer February 22, 08 02:56 PM
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  1. Those who have posted comments suggesting that Hillary is experienced and/or is an achiever, obviously are ignorant regards the state of New York. I'm an upstate NY resident. Fact: New York is an economically devestated state. Even in recent years, as much of the country has flourished, NY has not shared in such successes. New Yorks infrastructure continues to rot away, Jobs continue to leave, taxes and fees continue their upward spiral. The largest employer in the state is the corrupt state itself. While running for the Senate, Hillary promised us the world, including hundreds of thousands of jobs for upstate. We're still waiting. People continue to bail. I don't expect miracles, but her performance has been a clear cut "F". I don't know what shes been doing, but Shes been a failure
    as a NY senator. Don't fall for it.

    Posted by al February 22, 08 02:59 PM
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  1. The really sad thing about this upcoming election is that all the candidates, no matter what party, will say whatever it takes to get elected. They will make any promise, and once elected, they will cater to whatever special interest group that gave them the most money to push their agenda. Are we really so blind as to think that politicians really care about "The People"? History has shown us that all they really care about is maintaining Power and Control. They do this by trying to make the other party or leader look bad. Since President Bush was elected, all the Democrats have done is accuse him of one thing after another, not really caring if the accusations are true or not. Relax Democrats..........The Repuiblicans did the same thing to President Clinton when he was in office. The point is..... they end up
    so busy defending themselves from baseless accusations that they don't have
    time to do anything else. Who do you think pays for all the Special Prosecutors
    and Congressional Hearings? We do. That doesn't appear to be a very prudent
    way of spending the hard earned money they take from us each year in taxes.
    They are obssesed with maintaining their power and control. They forget their
    oathes, responsibilities, who they are supposed to be representing and who it
    really was that elected them . If we ,as a nation, don't change they way we
    do "Business as Usual",stop our fighting, and find away to get along with each
    other, we are going to destroy ourselves from within. I really don't know who I will
    vote for, as it is, no matter who gets elected, they will have to spend their entire
    term defending themselves from the accusations of the other party. What will be
    accomplished? Our country will be further in Debt and Recession. Healthcare and
    College will be out of reach for most people. More people will lose their homes
    and jobs. Millions more Undocumented Aliens will be in the country and the issue
    will be unresolved because "Votes are Votes". The way other nations perceive us
    will continue to be negative. Instead of seeing us as the most giving nation in the
    world, we will be looked upon as the biggest "Bully" in the world. All politicians are
    saying "We Need Change". They are right. Government has never had a lower approval rating. Politicians take note: YOU need to change . Change your priorities
    from maintaining your power and control, to maintaining a healthy and safe nation. That's the kind of change that is most important. It's what the people want,
    need and demand.

    Posted by Kevan February 22, 08 02:59 PM
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  1. As a person whohas seen this country at it's worse, and not so better times, I'm all for what Michelle Obama said in quote "The Great Statement". Why would you want to be proud of a country who killed a race of people just because they were born Black. Why would you want to be proud of a country who treated their own people like they were less than animals? My ancestors came to this country looking for a better life for the nine children they had and found some of the most inhumane lifestyle of a people because they had no choice in the race they were born into. They had no choice in the matter. This country was no better than what Sadam Hussein did to his people. And that's the reason we all need to be proud of this country? Mrs. McCain is proud of this country because her relatives were among those who destroyed the life of a spiritual people, and killed the only "peaceful lamb" who stood for all Americans. If you are proud of that country, then I hope you'll have a real confession to your "maker" when you have to stand before HIM.

    Posted by Louise February 22, 08 03:02 PM
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  1. America is going to go through another 4 years of Crisis if Clinton does not make it as the next president. I am an international and I know hoiw much people abroad respect the Clinton family.. Believe me..

    Posted by James Curry February 22, 08 03:20 PM
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  1. Be CAREFUL what you all wish for, you just might get it. Look at all the promises that Derval Patrick made and can't deliver. So far MA has gotten from our inspirational new Gov $90K curtains, a cadillac escalade, a proposal for casino gambling, and yet another budget fight with the all powerful State legislator. Sounds like the same old same old to me, all talk no action.

    Posted by Ellen February 22, 08 03:23 PM
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  1. If experience does not nmatter then why do we we get rejected at job interviews with less experience. And the the other candidate who has more experience gets the job. I thought a president’s job is the most important job in America. Just being charming and good speaker does not qualify you for a job.

    All you Hillary haters I think you all believe in double standards. One rule applies to general public and other rule applies to Obama.

    Posted by Nisha February 22, 08 03:24 PM
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  1. Ann Marie,

    Why would health insurance companies not like Hilary's plan? It would make it required that everyone buy the products health insurers sell. Those who don't would suffer potential legal consequences and fines?

    Please inform.

    Posted by dan February 22, 08 03:27 PM
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  1. Clinton voted to send troops to iraq, she is a murder too.
    Obama and Ron Paul are the only candidates who were against the war from the start. Ron Paul wants to Ban Abortion.

    and that leaves...

    Obama 08

    Posted by Aaron February 22, 08 03:36 PM
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  1. Obama has extremely limited experience. For a position like US President, we need a very experienced and capable person. There is not enough of a record for one to know where he really stands on extremely important issues. For example, if Iran continues on its plan to develop nuclear weapons, what will he do? I have no confidence in him because there is no record of actual experience. Americans, don't simply get caught up by the aura or so-called inspiration of his speeches-yes he has great oratorical ability in front of large crowds but that is not what is needed to lead the US. I do not get "excited" by Hillary's speeches but I know where she is coming from and where she is going based on her record. Many of us may consider McCain if Obama is the other choice. Let Obama get a track record of more years in the Senate, first.

    to lead the USA. I do not get "excited" by Hillary's charisma but I know what she stands for, what she has done and I have a sense of how she will react if she is elected President. For the first time in my adult like(I am a strong Democrat), I am not sure who I will vote for if Obama gets the Democratic nomimation

    Posted by Alan February 22, 08 03:37 PM
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  1. anne-marie - you are pathetic plan and simple - you look to take away a clear Victory from Obama who by the way was WAY behind Clinton in the polls a year ago and claim that Hillary will not be chosen because women who watch Oprah?(guess Oprah should run for President then if she has THAT much sway) due to Insurance companies? (Please Obama already gave his stance on the lobbyists) Because men are all sexist? (Please anne-marie...enough already) and will you stop with the excuse that you and the media continue to grip onto...that African Americans decided this election...give me a break...African Americans make up about 9% or less of the U.S. population....where were the African Americans in Maine that Obama won...in Nebraska...Iowa...WISCONSIN??????? HHHHHHillary

    Posted by Anne-marie=dumb February 22, 08 03:37 PM
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  1. I'll forever be loyal to Hillary R. Clinton. A lady President must break the history of US Politics. To all Obama supporters...you all sucks!!!

    Posted by Chris February 22, 08 03:37 PM
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  1. It is not a question of who is dedicated to civil service and committed to allowing access to opportunities for Americans and others around the world. It is obvious we have two individuals, Hilary Clinton and Barrack Obama, who are eager to open the dialogue between those with differing viewpoints within our country and abroad in order to create solutions for the many domestic challenges we have as well as our standing on the world stage.

    The question is who is best suited to assume leadership of our country in 11 months? The question is who is best suited to structure an administration in less than 3 months from the national election in November to the inauguration in January in order to focus immediately on the issues at hand? The question is who is best suited to take on international affairs with tact and the knowledge of complex diplomatic structures and cultural intricacies without diminishing the reputation our head of state, the President of the United States of America? The question is who is best capable to assemble and administration that can effectively lead and establish an agenda to unify dozens of departments and agencies? The question is who can lead global diplomatic efforts to avoid military solutions that risk the lives of our troops and civilians alike, to diminish the efforts of terrorist and to improve the lives of people around the world?

    In my opinion the answer to these questions is Hilary Clinton. She has the many years of experience that includes failures from which to learn. She has the broad personal and professional network from which to draw upon to structure an administration with ease. She has travelled the world as a senator and as the first lady representing our country and met with many world leaders. She has the knowledge of the finite facts and figures necessary to make the appropriate leadership decisions.

    The answer is not Barrack Obama yet! His opportunity will be in 8 years.

    Posted by Gary F February 22, 08 03:38 PM
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  1. I'm looking forward to a Obama/Clinton vs. McCain/Rice race.

    Posted by A Happy Republican February 22, 08 03:39 PM
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  1. Hillary has run the worst presidential campaign in recent memory. Her inability to control her husband's big mouth or properly manager her campaign funds show she is not ready to lead this country. Her failed efforts to smear Obama as an "inexperienced, drug using, messianic, plagiarist", have proven distasteful and as Obama has said, "silly". Her lack of an effective ground-game in caucus states and reliance on "super-delegates" show how out of touch with the voters she truly was and is. Experienced, vetted, tested, and ready on day one? Who cares? People in 2008 want change, or as former President Franklin Roosevelt said in 1932 during the Great Depression, "a new deal". That Clinton could not extrapolate this from polls showing voter discontent ought to burn a lesson into the heads of anyone seeking political office: "It's the voters, stupid"

    Posted by DC February 22, 08 03:41 PM
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  1. Americans are doing the same again by voting for Barack, people just don't
    think they like talkers and speech makers, has he done anything for this country
    how is he prepared to take office, he has no experience, just talk, AMERICANS
    remember the 90's it was pretty good times for us, unions, laborers making
    money, sending our kids to college, and then it was the 2000's, hard times,
    and it will not get any better with Barack no experience lack of leadership.
    My ancestors live in Eastern Europe, times have been bad for the past 100 years,
    no democracy, no freedom of speech, do you want America to be like that. Hilary
    is the best choice for Democrats, give her a chance, she will do right for all of
    us. Young people talk to your parents and grandparents ask them what it was
    like in the 90's, what the people could afford, no losing homes, economy stable
    jobs, and Americans happy. Pls don't get fooled by talkers, Hilary is a doer,
    give her a chance, she is for the people of America.

    Posted by Anna February 22, 08 03:44 PM
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  1. My fellow Americans, let's be honest and recognize that Obama will be our next US President. With what's happening to John McCain, and the recent indictment on corruption charges of his Arizona lead man, a US Representative, the Republican party doesn't have a chance and so is Hillary Clinton. Now, I have seen and read lots of "comical" names added to Barack Obama such as "Sadam Suddein" etc., please start spelling his name right because Barack Obama will be our next president. I will certainly vote for Obama!

    Posted by Miguel Contreras February 22, 08 03:49 PM
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  1. So many news sources seem to be getting the end of the debate wrong--saying Clinton got a standing ovation b/c of either the power of her closing remark (unlikely) or because it sounded like a near-concession statement.

    Here's what I think happened. First, Campbell Brown said "we have one last question." The audience knew this was it. Obama answered.

    Clinton answered and tried to almost-cry again. Then the audience rose because they knew that that was the end of the debate. Obama, apparently, wasn't so sure--you can hear him asking, "is that it?" The ambiguity allows the interpretation that people were rising because Clinton was either inspiring or quasi-conceding.

    I can't help but think that this is a good thing for Obama--but it's NOT what Clinton intended and the audience was NOT rising for any reason other than the fact that they knew the debate had just ended.

    Posted by Jordan February 22, 08 03:50 PM
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  1. I have probably followed this campaign closer than any in the past two elections, primarily because of the Clinton name. I lack trust in them and being an Arkansasan I have my reasons. But, to say that Obama should be the next president is without doubts also. He lacks the experience that is necessary to run this country. Please, dear God, lets forget about where his money comes from and concentrate on the aged, children, poor, and the military that protect us. Charisma is not what will run this country.Furthermore, I do not believe that this country is ready for a black president, we still have too many racial problems here in the south but even more, we are not ready for a female in the White House either
    contrary to all of the feminists movements. Let us Seniors have a voice.

    Posted by Susan Oliver February 22, 08 03:51 PM
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  1. This campign is over, thank god. I do not think Hilary is a bad candidate nor question her love for our country; however, the end of the day she is a power hungry, calculative, manipulative individual, who is only for herself. it is clearly evident in every move she had made over the past few years. Further, i do not want to see a continuation of clinton/bush era anymore; I am willing to take a chance on anyone else. Barrack on the other hand is going to be like most politicians, all words, some actions, but he exemplifes what America is all about; a first generation american soon to be the president of the United States.

    Posted by a February 22, 08 03:53 PM
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  1. Hilary is an idiot and talks more nonsense than John McCain and Obama.

    Posted by Talk Show Host February 22, 08 03:54 PM
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  1. In my opinion the only way to turn the Obama tide around is: Hillary herself should urge people to listen to what Obama is saying. She should even quote him, liberally. Quote many of his trademark phrases on change and point out the emptiness of his rhetoric. Obama speeches are pep talks. He is a charismatic individual running his candidacy as a cheerleader. People have to become aware of this. When they do, they'll take a closer look at Hillary.

    People are disillusioned and fed up and along comes a fellow who speaks to their itching ears about change, hope and happiness, about a rosy future. Of course people will listen. But how long will people be able to hold their attention, remain enthusiastic and be energized by this kind of talk? Eventually it is going to deflate. Hillary must find a way to help deflate this and fast.

    Finding a way to sound positive and convincing, this is the sort of thing I would say along with what I mention above:
    The system of government in this country has been two hundred years in the making, it is not going to change overnight, and much less at the hand of someone who is fundamentally a newcomer, a charismatic individual that has a gift for oratory and I might add, who I believe has good intentions. For change to come about, it will require a clear understanding of the government machinery and attitudes of the people in this system, and with this experience, formulate the means of change from within. Let us not be naive and think that one charismatic president will change this system and improve it for all of us forever simply through a gift of oratory. Nothing in life is that simple. But then again nothing of value in life, nothing that we hold dear, nothing truly important in life is simple, free or comes without a struggle. It is this struggle and effort that teaches us how to enjoy life, to appreciate what we have and it is what gives us the experience that we need to do what is best for ourselves and those around us. A youthful and enthusiastic effort to change the world, without the guidance of the experience that only years of struggle can provide leads nowhere. We must think thoroughly about the choices that we have at hand and we must, and emphasize MUST listen carefully to what each of the candidates are saying. Listen to what we are saying, not only to their delivery but their content.

    Posted by RM February 22, 08 03:54 PM
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  1. Hillary should be greatly honored at being on the same stage as Barack Obama.

    Obama is the once-in-many-generations kind of man that Gandhi was, Kennedy was, Lincoln was.

    Check his address to the 2004 DNC if you haven't.

    Google his keynote speech to the Harvard Law School Alumni in 2005.

    See the high regard in which he is held everywhere he goes.

    The man is a legend in his own lifetime, at an amazing young age. Congratulations to all Americans if we can get him running the country.

    Posted by Neil February 22, 08 03:56 PM
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  1. This campign is over, thank god. I do not think Hilary is a bad candidate nor question her love for our country; however, the end of the day she is a power hungry, calculative, manipulative individual, who is only for herself. it is clearly evident in every move she had made over the past few years. Further, i do not want to see a continuation of clinton/bush era anymore; I am willing to take a chance on anyone else. Barrack on the other hand is going to be like most politicians, all words, some actions, but he exemplifes what America is all about; a first generation american soon to be the president of the United States.

    Posted by a February 22, 08 03:56 PM
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  1. A ditch digger is still a ditch digger regardless of how may ditches they have dug.
    Neither Hillary nor Barack have held the office of President.
    So Hillary lies when she says she has the experience.
    Being the wife of a President does not make you any more a President than being the wife of a brain surgeon makes you a doctor.
    Neither candidate has the experience.
    Choosing the lesser of two weevils’, Obama has the edge, a cleaner slate.
    Whoever becomes President faces grave challenges, but they will not face those challenges alone. Their advisors, analysts and so on will be helping them to make informed decisions. The same types of decisions that led to the US invading Iraq.
    Veto is the only real power that a President has. And even that is questionable.
    A figurehead is important for any country and it is better to start out with a clean slate rather than electing a family to Office that one of which bones the help in the public eye.
    Hillary has had it rough, no doubts there. But the Clintons made their own bed and now they have to lay in it.
    Her basic tactic in the campaign is ugly and that reflects her inner persona.
    Expecting that by making ugly remarks it makes her look more aggressive to the voting populous. Instead it has been backfiring on her. It looks more like menopausal than aggressive behavior.
    She needs to do what all good politicians do and go into asskissing mode if she wants to be the Vice President. At least we won't be in Iraq for the next 100 years and there will be some good come out of it for the poor people who cannot afford general health care. With both of them working on it, you know it's going to happen.
    Obama gets to be the first quasi-black man ever elected to the U.S. Presidency and the Hillster gets to be the first woman to hold the office of VP. And Bill still gets to bone the help. And when some racist puts a bullet in Obamas head, Hillary becomes the first woman President by default. And Bill can still bone the help.


    Posted by Michael Kaminski February 22, 08 03:58 PM
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  1. I've never understood the "experience" argument. Simply because you have done something before or for a long time, doesn't guarantee that you've done it well.

    Hillary spent 8 futile years on health care without accomplishing a thing when she was "in the Whitehouse". Is this good experience?

    Hillary's personal life has been a wreck. I sympathize with her for that, but is this good experience?

    Hillary has "taken her shots". Is this good experience? (If I was a corner man I'd be worried about her being punch-drunk.)

    I'll always take a smart compassionate person. One who can learn and isn't afraid to seek the guidance of smart, capable people to fill in the experiential holes (and listen to them!) over someone with years of questionable experience.

    But frankly, there is only one factor that I consider germane at this point in the Democratic primary--who can beat McCain? For a variety of reasons, that person is Barack Obama. Those desperate Hillary backers that can't see this exceptionally clear fact ARE delusional and that skewed perspective is doing nothing to help the Democrats win the General Election.

    Grow up folks, this isn't high school anymore ('though at times that's what the HRC campaign reminds me of) and your "loyalties" are risking another 4-8 years of the GOP. What the hell are you thinking?!

    Posted by g. klein February 22, 08 03:59 PM
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  1. WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO TURN ON THE TV AND HEAR ANY U.S. PRESIDENT, DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN GIVE THE FOLLOWING SPEECH?
    My Fellow Americans: As you all know, the defeat of the Iraq regime has been completed.

    Since congress does not want to spend any more money on this war, our mission in Iraq is complete.

    This morning I gave the order for a complete removal of all American forces from Iraq This action will be complete within 30 days. It is now time to begin the reckoning.


    Before me, I have two lists. One list contains the names of countries which have stood by our side during the Iraq conflict. This list is short. The United Kingdom , Spain , Bulgaria , Australia , and Poland are some of the countries listed there.

    The other list contains everyone not on the first list. Most of the world's nations are on that list. My press secretary will be distributing copies of both lists later this evening.

    Let me start by saying that effective immediately, foreign aid to those nations on List 2 ceases immediately and indefinitely. The money saved during the first year alone will pretty much pay for the costs of the Iraqi war. THEN EVERY YEAR THERE AFTER IT GO TO OUR SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM SO IT WONT GO BROKE IN 20 YEARS.

    The American people are no longer going to pour money into third world Hellholes and watch those government leaders grow fat on corruption.

    Need help with a famine ? Wrestling with an epidemic? Call France .

    In the future, together with Congress, I will work to redirect this money toward solving the vexing social problems we still have at home . On that note, a word to terrorist organizations. Screw with us and we will hunt you down and eliminate you and all your friends from the face of the earth.

    Thirsting for a gutsy country to terrorize? Try France , or maybe China .

    I am ordering the immediate severing of diplomatic relations with France , Germany , and Russia . Thanks for all your help, comrades. We are retiring from NATO as well. Bon chance, mess amiss.

    I have instructed the Mayor of New York City to begin towing the many UN diplomatic vehicles located in Manhattan with more than two unpaid parking tickets to sites where those vehicles will be stripped, shredded and crushed. I don't care about whatever treaty pertains to this. You creeps have tens of thousands of unpaid tickets. Pay those tickets tomorrow or watch your precious Benzes, Beamers and limos be turned over to some of the finest chop shops in the world. I love New York

    A special note to our neighbors. Canada is on List 2. Since we are likely to be seeing a lot more of each other, you folks might want to try not pissing us off for a change.

    Mexico is also on List 2 President Fox and his entire corrupt government really need an attitude adjustment. I will have a couple extra tank and infantry divisions sitting around. Guess where I am going to put 'em? Yep, border security.

    Oh, by the way, the United States is abrogating the NAFTA treaty - starting now.

    We are tired of the one-way highway. Immediately, we'll be drilling for oil in Alaska - which will take care of this country's oil needs for decades to come. If you're an environmentalist who opposes this decision, I refer you to List 2 above: pick a country and move there. They care.

    It is time for America to focus on its own welfare and its own citizens. Some will accuse us of isolationism. I answer them by saying, "darn too-tin."

    Nearly a century of trying to help folks live a decent life around the world has only earned us the undying enmity of just about everyone on the planet. It is time to eliminate hunger in America It is time to eliminate homelessness in America . To the nations on List 1, a final thought. Thank you guys. We owe you and we won't forget.

    To the nations on List 2, a final thought: You might want to learn to speak Arabic.

    God bless America . Thank you and good night.

    If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.


    Posted by Robert- Arlington, TX February 22, 08 04:02 PM
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  1. When will true American voters wake up? Obama is as green as grass and just a gas-bag. McCain is as scary as can be , just another Bushie but more aggressive in his ideas. Hillary is the only candidate who makes sense, but has been destroyed by a gender-biased media. C'mon you men who are afraid of strong, intelligent women. Wake up and use your brains.

    Posted by norm February 22, 08 04:09 PM
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  1. WOW- I am so disappointed to be a female in America!!! I thought Hilary was wonderful and spoke directly of plans and experience. I found Barack completely aggresive with his body language (endless pointing of the finger, raising of the hand like and impatient child, constant invasions of his co-debator's space) and full of propoganda- doesn't anyone see the CONTROL ISSUES there?!!! I gues the only form of acceptable racism remaining in the good old USA is that against women! If I hear one more white male refere to her as a Bi...ch I will scream!!!! Are you men still that frightened of a strong woman? Are Americans that stupid that anything the press (Oprah is the press!) tells them they believe? The press have been pushing for Barack and telling us to like him because they think a Republican can beat him and people just buy the crap hook line and sinker... even if they can't name a single acomplishment of the man they are willing to let run our country! Doesn't anyone bother to research who owns the news stations pushing Barack????? Wake up people... please... this is our country at stake... please put someone in office who can run it... Hillary that is.

    Posted by Kathleen (From South Florida) February 22, 08 04:10 PM
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  1. Hillary will Win!! She has what it takes to run this country and get it back on it's feet. Anyone who votes for Barack is delusional.

    Posted by Andrea February 23, 08 09:35 AM
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  1. I thought the Clintons could care less about tearing the party apart, and would go for floor fight at the convention. She had more class than I gave her credit for. It sounds like she'll bow out gracefully after Texas and Ohio.

    Posted by Michelle February 23, 08 05:05 PM
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  1. Hilary has my vote, All the way, she is honest and trustworthy, she knows what she wants for our Country and I feel she is going to do the right thing...anybody that thinks Obama is so great, why doesn't he show more respect to our US Flag, I don't trust him, I really think he is going to bring our Country down, All he is doing is motivating all this young people, like its a pep rally in a football field, all I see is all talk..... and shys away from down to earth questions.......

    Posted by Terry Espinosa February 29, 08 06:44 PM
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