Clinton misrepresents Obama's health care views

On the Clinton scale, a lie that small probably feels like the truth.

Wouldn't be the first time the Clintons have been misleading...

Universal health care isn't universal unless everyone is covered. Both candidates have aggressive plans to curb costs, but all things being equal, a system which allows people to skip out on paying until they need coverage means that they're not paying the whole time (i.e. they're not sharing the risk, which is the whole point of insurance). That means that millions of people will not be covered in the event of an emergency (because they chose not to be), and that costs on the whole are higher as a result, because it has the effect of increasing the percentage of "sick" people in the insurance pool, concentrating costs.

The bottom line is that universal health care isn't universal unless everyone is covered, all the time. Optional coverage to anyone who wants it is not the same thing.

Obama misrepresent s his own positions You don;t need HRC TO DO IT FOR HIM
Barack Obama has ratcheted up his attacks on NAFTA, but a senior member of his campaign team told a Canadian official not to take his criticisms seriously, CTV News has learned.

Boy what a phony attempt to discredit Senator Clinton. It is obvious that this institute would rather create the news than report it. It clearly show the media bias. this sounds like a childs response, maybe just include na na na na na....na next time.

You Sire, are a fool, and a misogynist fool at that!

Obama's plan does NOT require a mandate. What that means is that when some smart aleck who would rather pay for a trip to Cancun than buy himself insurance, trips at the airport, his health costs would be covered by the rest of us.

To put this in terms you can understand- larger the common pool, lesser the individual risk. And Clinton's pool is the largest.

For Obama to demonize a corner-stone of the democratic agenda for political gains means that he IS after all a Washington insider. Take a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=estOVM5Do9M .

Now you can go back to being giddy about Barack Hussein Obama.

give Obama a pillow!

So, since she's been working on this healthcare plan since 1996, why isn't in effect??? Because she is a totalitarian, not a democrate...it's her way or no way!

Nobody comments on these types of articles anymore except that last 100 Clinton supporters left in America. Get over it guys. Obama '08.

This constant drum beat that Hillary Clinton seems to beat that "15 Million Americans will be left out" is getting tired and ridiculous. Seems that all the fear mongering that the Repubs have campaigned on for the last several election cycles is exactly how Mrs. Clinton seems to be running her campaign. Fear that you wont get insurance, fear that Obama will put us at risk in matters of forgeign policy, feat that Obama will run the economy into the ground. Fear Fear fear. Why do you think Obama's message of HOPE is working so well? I dont care who you support for the nomination, this much is clear, Hillarys efforts to stir up worry and create doubt about Obama is back firing in collosal fashion. By the way..... the martians are comming

Mr Herman - The CTV had to retract their report because it was false. So , there you go . Google it so that u have the facts .

Now, My Mother-in-law lives in Ma. where they have a universal health care plan set by former Gov Romney. My MIT can not afford the insurance , so she does not have it and her wages are garnished because of it . So, because of the penalty - she is left with 1. No health insurance and 2. Garnished wages .
I want to also address that the hatred and racism posted here is sad state of affairs we live in ! God help u all ...

This incredible young voter (Derrick) starts out with just one issue (Healthcare) and then explains the whole Obama movement better than all the experts.
Please listen to both of these videos (first one first).

http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2008/02/06/video-interviewer-picks-the-wrong-obama-supporter-to-try-to-railroad/

http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2008/02/12/video-obama-supporter-derrick-responds-to-his-video/

We have a mandate here in Massachusets and it basically results in a penalty for people who cannot afford Health Care.

I would assume that Senator Barack Obama had watched the Massachusets plan closely and came to the right conclusion that a mandate will not work for all Americans.

We are a free country after all.

Vote for Barack Obama.

John Herman,

The Canadian Embassy has entirely debunked CTV's story. They report there has been no contact from Obama whatsoever. Just Google it (Obama Canadian embassy). Do your research!

Once again you have to go after Hillary because there is nothing to say about Obama. That is because he is hollow. There is nothing there there people. He is a copy cat candidate, a paper dragon.

Hillary has the experience, the foresight and the FIGHT to get UNIVERSAL healthcare for all of us, and not just HOPE or IMAGINE that we are going to sign up for Healthcare on our own. If I did not have to give to Social Security do you think I would. No way. I am never going to see that money because its not really there. Just like MR. Obama - The Emperor has no Clothes. Open your eyes! Not your hearts! We are electing a President not dating a President. When will this 'crush" on this handsome boy end?

Hey Scott Helman and Boston Globe:

I saw this headline and assumed it was an editorial. Then I checked and saw it was billed as a political report from the field. You have got to be kidding me. You are supposed to be a journalist, not a political SPIN MACHINE. This is exactly the sort of headline and article one would expect to read on a candidate's website, but not from the press. Simply NOT YOUR PLACE to call one candidate's comments a misrepresentation of anothers. Let the PR people for Hillary and Barack do that, but not a journalist. Figure out what your chosen profession is. We readers really don't appreciate stories like this mascarading as hard news.

Once again you have to go after Hillary because there is nothing to say about Obama. That is because he is hollow. There is nothing there there people. He is a copy cat candidate, a paper dragon.

Hillary has the experience, the foresight and the FIGHT to get UNIVERSAL healthcare for all of us, and not just HOPE or IMAGINE that we are going to sign up for Healthcare on our own. If I did not have to give to Social Security do you think I would. No way. I am never going to see that money because its not really there. Just like MR. Obama - The Emperor has no Clothes. Open your eyes! Not your hearts! We are electing a President not dating a President. When will this 'crush" on this handsome boy end?

like chris rock said about the lewinskey scandal, 'I blame Hillary'

What is the big deal if everyone is forced to pay for HC and then calling it Universal? I didn't know that the average democrats IQ would be so low to believe whatever HC says. God save America.

For cripe's sake, "HealthCareProfessional, knock it off with the " Barack HUSSEIN Obama!" It only makes you look small!
Go back and read the article again, you twit!

To be at risk of a liberal attack, not everyone believes in forcing the grasshoppers into the ant hill (see the old proverb). Since when did the US become the champion of forcing personal decisions on the basis of "spreading the risk"? We have already seen the failed results of public health programs in a wide variety of countries. Socialization of health reduces the level of care and costs more. Let's all feed at the government teat!

"What that means is that when some smart aleck who would rather pay for a trip to Cancun than buy himself insurance..."

And here, my friends, you have the evidence of a complete disconnect from reality. It is poor people who cannot afford health insurance that are in need of coverage, not the world travelers with tons of cash that jetset around the globe while we poor regular Joes have to pick up their health care bill.

Reality. It's not a figment of the collective imagination, we promise.

What terribly biased commenting is this? Forget the Globe if that's all they have to report. There is no doubt in my mind that the media would love to control this country and cast their vote for Obama, on behalf of all Americans. I just hope that Americans won't let that happen.

If I become a president there will be no poor people. Simply they will be forced to exile. Great idea, right!?

Typical Clintonian nonsense. She treats her supporters like a bunch of rubes and expects them to swallow her nonsense. I liked her better as a First Lady.

Maybe Chelsea can run for office - she actually has integrity, unlike either of her parents.

I guess you know more than the experts, since they have roundly said his plan is absolutely NOT universal.

To read a nonpartisan take on their plans, go to factcheck.org and read They've Got You Covered. They also said that Obama's ads are misleading, that he has misrepresented the words of former labor secretary Robert Reich and that only her plan would come close to covering everyone.

But I guess you would know that if you, you know, did the research instead of campaigning in your article. Your bias is so obvious.

In my experience, the government never gets it right. They set poverty lines, income eligibility levels that have no relation to realty and elderly people can't afford to eat and pay rent, and single adults can't afford insurance and groceries. Hilary's plan has lots of phony specifics, becuase the truth is until it starts to roll out no one knows what the costs will be and how they will vary across the country and for different groups. So if the government gets it wrong, again, (not a stretch to imagine no matter which candidate you support) and a person can't afford Hillary's mandated program, what does she offer? Penalities like witholding tax refunds and taking MORE MONEY OUT OF ALREADY TOO SMALL PAYCHECKS
That's not helping anyone. ALl the burden and pain is put on the little person and none on the government or the insurance system or even the medical community. Her plan to force everyone to pay out of the nose for something she decides we need is an outrage. I like Obama's approach--make it something affordable and stop acting like Auntie Sam knows what's best for her litle idiot citizens and they better take their medicine or else...

I admit the way the candidates present their views is confusing. "Universal health care" infers a humanitarian idea in which the government would provide health care for people who cannot affort it. Instead it is a law requiring people to pay for health care, and is proposed by Clinton as the only way to make health care affordable, i.e. so all of us don't have to pay so much for our plans. Sort of playing to poor people who can't afford, and to the wealthier who think there premiums are too high. Let's face it, health care, in this day of innovative treatments and law suits is going to be pretty expensive however you do it. Let's get real about cutting health care costs, and face the costs of covering those who can't afford it.

Hillary Clinton can give all the tutorials on health care that she wants. But, as president, she would not reform the system. She lacks the necesary leadership skills, as demonstrated by the fiasco she orchestrated 15 years ago. Back then, she was a condescending know-it-all who alienated potential allies. There is no evidence that her self-preceived allknowingness has diminished.

Hillary Clinton cares about me receiving health care coverage as much as she cared about health care coverage for Wal-Mart employees when serving on Wal-Mart board for several years. During her tenure, employee health care coverage did not get better, the status of women did not improve and union organizers were categorized as blood suckers by a board member with no peep from her. So much for 35 years of public service as champion of the people.

Hillary and her hubby are a slippery pair. I voted for "them" in '92 and '96. But never again. I am fed up with trying to figure out what the meaning of "is" is.

Every time either candidate says their plan "covers" either adults or children, the media needs to say, "Stop. You mean the public will PURCHASE themselves." Then the media needs to focus on the SPECIFICS of:
- Subsidies
- Mandates
- Incentives

If the media addresses it in this way, the people without insurance, such as self-employed and independent contractors, can judge for themselves the ramifications of either plan.

Hillary Lied???

Shocking! (Ok, sarcasm is unbecoming, but this woman will do ANYTHING to get back into that Big White House in DC.)

Shame on you, Hillary Clinton.

The problem with universal healthcare, and to REQUIRE people to purchase it, is that it leaves out the freedom to choose. While everyone seems hell bent on bringing out the plight of the single mom, who only has one leg, is blind, is addicted to painkillers, and works a night time job selling her looks to get by, no one seems to look at the fact that this country is supposed to have FREEDOM.

I used to work with a woman at Sam's Club (I have since become an electrical engineer) . Her husband accidentally cut off his finger playing with the wrong side of a lawn mower. The hospital wouldn't see them because they didn't have health insurance. At this point, you are all upset, thinking they couldn't afford it. Well, they are well off. She told me that she works only to get out of the house. They don't have health insurance because they can afford not to have it.

The point I am trying to make, is that people shouldn't be required to purchase it if they don't want to. Most of the people that want it, that can't afford it brings up the actual problem. It is too expensive for those that can't afford not to have it. The problem isn't getting people covered. The problem is the COST of coverage.

Another problem is that insurance companies get to pick and choose what ailments and bills they will cover.....after the costs are incurred. In other words, the problem is with the laws governing the insurance industry, and not just that a lot of people don't have it.

We should not force people to make the insurance companies even richer without also tackling the laws regulating the insurance companies.

This article seems to spin around the word "want". Hillary suggests that Obama doesn't want everyone to have health insurance because his plan doesn't go far enough to cover everyone. I think in his heart, Obama probably does want everyone to be insured, but wanting isn't good enough, and we can only judge a candidate by his or her proposals.

The healthcare system is so broken, you can't fix it with bandaids. This is a core Democratic principle that is worth fighting for. It should be part of the national platform, part of the debate with McCain, and Hillary's depth of knowledge and experience on this subject is unquestioned.

I'm sure Obama has a plan that will insure everyone. He is just simply stating that it is the responsibility of the parent to see that their children are covered. Some parents do not have insurance coverage for their children.

More shameless lies from HRC- but it is what we have learned to expect. Bitter, negative, distortions. I can't believe that their are actually people who would support this type dead end campaign.

I agree with you number # 13.

Latinos/as for Obama '08

I spend a good bit on my health care. I have even cured myself of an autoimmune disease considered incurable by the medical establishment. I prefer to go a more natural route than to throw myself on the mercy of the quacks who dish out the meds and cut people open. My point is, it is not fair for me to pay twice, once for my natural approach and then also support the medical establishment too.

Obama08

Where in the U.S. Constitution is the national government given the power to mandate that individuals purchase health insurance? I must have missed that clause...

Don't need universal care...we don't need HIllary telling us what we need. Mr. Obama's plan is much, much better. Hillary is lying about Mr. Obama's plan. Hillary was in charge of creating a health plan on Bill's second year as Prez, she failed. She had six more years in which to work on it, she did not! Now she is trying to convince everyone she is THE EXPERT. Personally, I do not want my monthly income garnished; Hillary has not stated how much she will take from your income. Health care is NOT free, nor is it cheap...you are still going to have to pay for it, whether you get it yourself or buy it from HIllary. MEDICARE isn't working all that well, you still have to pay for your own "supplement" insurance. I do not think Hillary's plan would be any better than medicare. But then again, Hillary will tell you anything to get your vote.

Can we all just admit Hillary's remarks are misleading?

The reason why she gives herself a reputation as a fighter as she is always creating these additional battles...she has as good a personality as Obama but every time an issue arises instead of acknowledging situation she gets in this angry mania fighting, and turning it into a conspiracy. It would not help in bringing a coalition with Republicans if we have Hillary as President falsy accusing them of things and lying about her current or past positions.

Saying "Shame on You Barack Obama" regarding fliers she says have "been discredited" and getting all angry just 2 days after holding his hand at the Texas debate and saying how very honored she was to have Barack as her opponent spells multiple personalities to me. How can a flier that says Hillary once supported NAFTA be discreted if you were the most publicably vocal supporter (other than your husband) in 1995 quoted in every major newspaper, than in 2000 you write your book that NAFTA was one of her proudest achievements, than get go around New York making speeches in 2004 when running for re-election for the Senate saying you had a part of it, and what a great success it is?

If one of your supporters was naive enough to hand you this flier believing it isnt true, than it raises a question to how naive her supporters are, and how naive they are for believing this stuff and believing her. I am not anti-woman and I feel competened enough to see she is not truthful, see her track record of lying, being manipulative, morally corrupt she is.

I was a volunteer in Nevada, there were no morals in how the Clinton campaign was involved in the elections; And Ironically at the time it was announced she won she was in the process of suing the State of Nevada and Democratic party saying these elections were unfair and they didn't follow original agreement. (Originally agreement was followed perfectly, and was ironic that 6 weeks before election all the caucus locations were picked and publicized, all the rules were publicized, and delegate breakdown was publicized in many newspapers. The Clinton's allegations occured 3 days before the election, as the day before Obama had gotten the endorsement of the biggest union in the casinos and voting was in the casinos where workers could vote their regardless of their location. This is an example of one of Hillary's "fights" which sure isn't for Democracy.

Prior election in NH several Hillary staffers began the Obama rumors that he was a muslim and wouldn't pray to the American flag with those photos...same thing with the new photos her campaign sent out they wait 2 days to respond whether they know anything about it so it will blow over by the time they acknolwedge rule.

What happens after NH, South Carolina, she and Bill were real fighters....She insulted the intelligence of the large black population that they wouldn't get what her remarks were implying. A lot of nasty campaign tactics...She let her black endorsers play the role of bs character attacks on Obama because she didn't want to look like one going negative. These black endorsers like Robert Johnson was biggest contributor/supporter of the Bush tax plan that helps the rich and hurts blacks, also owns blackploitation TV (BET)......than as part of her "insult 40 states strategy" makes same remarks about these people don't represent this country, they don't know better, they voted for Jesse Jackson in 1984, Obama is just the black candidate.

Than we have Florida and Michigan...yeah she was a real fighter....she fought to overturn what was decided AS SOON AS THE ELECTIONS WERE ANNOUNCED that they were not sanctioned, and did not count causing most to not vote....she tried to fight to have an election where most didn't participate as it was announed it didn't count, count...Also interesting is all the candidates promised not to campaign there and of the 6 candidates at the time, she was the only campaign that had a group campaigning for her there...She also promised not to visit the state but did...promised not to call it a victory...but did....lets see what else.....promised she would drop issue, but then didn't after sc......trying to confuse the people of Florida what happened...and in the unsanctioned election in Michigan what happened...she was the only name on the ballot, got 51% and was a fighter to allow this election to count...again like Florida she is pretending she is fighting for the little guy....saying it is not fair that for the blacks that voted for her (if any) now the votes aren't counting, somehow people are disenfranchised by keeping agreement that SHE and every other candidate signed on to...this begins the media not liking her which she fight and fights and has nothing to do with her being a woman... Gets media flack of all the lies Clinton has to make to try and help her (Bill Clinton) many of them discredited.

She also did a good job fighting that she LOST Super Tuesday,, got half as many states as Obama and 32 less delegates....ehs goes on national tv assuring people that she won, that she definatively one, her campaign refuses to produce this or say they will turn it over....It seems interesting that if her estimate is that she won by one delegate out of a few hundred, and a small % of votes haven't been counted, a small % of proxy votes haven't been verified, and every major source analyzing it says the delegate counts will likely shift 3-4 delegates one way or the other she is able to definately say it is proven that she won, having just a 1 delegate lead...turns out Obama was right won by 32 delegates.....she denies him the opportunity to be seen rightly as victor.

Look at how Classy obama was when she won Vermont, when she won New Hampshire, congradulates her...what does she did....insult people of places she lost...of the 11 straight losses she had not mention them in any of her speeches, or congradulate him...say that somehow she is really the one ahead because this win was a caucus state where he does better (because he has more dedicated supportes) this one shouldn't count, was red state in 04, surely won't vote democrat in general election (wrong thing to say) this one had blacks, this and that....she fought and fought the fact she was below great fighter..

Now we see all this bs.....and the photo of him in Turban her campaign sent out, NYTimes confirmed with several top aids was something strategized with Hillary....it seems if several top aids confirm it BEFORE photo is released, seems clear she was involved.......and on top of that besides like the customary no-class Hillary campaign goes her campaign is asked at 8 AM....they wait to respond an entire day with her and her head being asked....doesn't seem like a full denial....than what....oh on her campaign website and to the press she says "I don't know why he could possibly be upset about the release of this photo" Maybe she should ask that to the SEVERAL muslim countries like Kenya that as a result of this photo are demanding US Military troopes be removed unless the US GOvernment apologizess....It seems trying to insult someone or play into anti-muslim hate, xenophobia (he is one generation out of Africa), that interestingly was developed by Hillary's earlier efforts to release the photo that wrongly seems to suggest he doesn't pray to the American flag....e-mails says he refuses to,,,and other one saying he is muslim..........maybe Hillary should "denounce" and "reject" this like she asked for Obama's Farakhan support (which he denounced and rejected immediately upon news of story)........How in the world is Hillary going to deal with the US-Muslim tension by using the idea that someone might be Muslim as an insult? And the turbin pic sent same day McCain's surrogate at rally (to no offense to McCain) emphasized Obama's middle name HUSSEIN 4, 5 times when trying to put down Obama....so Hillary's opponent if she wins the general election is trying to use being Muslim as an insult, and she tries to differentiate herself from him by doing the same thing....listen to how she worded it....whe would not definately say her campaign didn't put it out, just the bs....having no knowledge of it...which either indicates a lie or incompetency in her campaign which she has both.

Hillary's problem is not her personality....it is her arrogance....every time she is rightly criticized she becomes self rigteghous, I'm right you're wrong and attacks the person.....she was arrogant enough to not spend $1 in the next 11 states after Super Tuesday rolling dice on winner super tuesday...no networks there, campaigns, ads, volunteers....she was arrogant enough to when asked by Katie Couric what will you do if you are not the Democratic nomine replying "I will be the nominee" Arrogant enough that she calls Bill's legacy her legacy and refuses to admit any single scandal or controversy during those years she was involved with, but she was just involved in the good stuff...........Arrogant enough to screw up Healthcare reform in 1994 by refusing to meet with even Key Democrats that supported it, refused to let them be part of negotiation or writing, refused to meet with any outside groups or HMO's...the Ohio Debate appropriately characterized how much she screwed up....and she doesn't learn.

She is arrogant enough to think she can with with her campaign head being her former scheduler a few years before...the same woman that 10 years ago testified to a grand jury that the broke into the office of Vince Foster and stole files for Hillary the day after he had committed suicide....and secret service agents testify she was there the morning he committed "suicide"...Her new campaign head got implicated in a similar scandal....and had to testify because Hillary wouldn't talk.....she has said "I don't know" or "I don't remember" 186 times to grand juries, many of those times when asked if she did things that are classified as felonies.

It has been confirmed by enough sources in the Clinton administration...as soon as her husband decided to run for President she put together a team of secret police, got together the list of all the women that had alegations of rape, assault, etc.. from her husband including campaign workers, etc.. to figure out ways to blackmail these women into not talking....She is quoted many times calling these women "hors" finding ways to discredit them, destroy them....this is not the woman I want in charge of the FBI, CIA, IRS.....she is not a friend for women....Her husband was an exploiter of women and she cleaned it up, helped silence them.....and she was willing to get in this crazy marriage because of her political aspirations......the amount of transgressions she will do in her quest for power is unbelievable....this woman will do or say anythng.

I would rather have with Obama as president Michelle Obama representing the women of this country than Hillary......for sure.......

How can she bring the country together when even before announcing her platform 48% of this country hates her....How can you possibly build a coalition this way....fine you win Dem Nomination but Republicans hate her...she can pull some bs charm...but once she starts blaming the republicans for her mistakes, being manipulative, lying etc..... all she will have left to do is fight republicans.

And how can she unite this country when she explcitly says, even on her own website that if the current trend continues, she loses 60% of the state vote/delegates she will not cede defeat, she will take it to the Democratic Convention where she will try to convince the super delegates to reverse the people's vote...she has explicilty said this....

So she caters to vote of state, if she loses, insults them...than tries to reverse vote.

Beside the fact that she could not possibly win this way, how in the world can she bring a coalition.......She does not think long term.... Is completely arrogant.

I would rather have my daughter have Obama as a role model than Hillary.

One of the major problems, will be the same as with medicare, try to find a doctor or specialist, that will accept the coverage. I need surgery and cant find a surgon that will accept medicare for the speciality I need to have

I've got a plan to make all Americans beautiful -- we'll just make a universal mandate that they all have to get plastic surgery. Problem solved!

Seriously, I've had enough of Clinton's mandatory health insurance. While I'm sure this program appeals to the insurance companies (since it obliges us all to purchase their services), I can't understand why anybody else would support it. You know, it would be better for Americans' health if we didn't eat fast food or drink alcohol, but would we approve if Clinton outlawed these practices? No? So why are so many people content to let her outlaw being uninsured?

As for claiming that Senator Obama's plan is not "universal," please recall the following: America has universal sufferage. But we don't compel everyone to show up and cast a vote. We don't garnish their wages if they choose not to cast a ballot. Senator Obama's plan is "universal" in that it makes health insurance affordable, thereby bringing it within reach of all Americans who want it. So yes, it is universal -- it just isn't compulsory, like Clinton's.

Last point: thank you Mr. Helman for taking the time to point out an obvious untruth on the part of one of our presidential candidates. Unlike some people who have posted messages here, I *do* think that this is the job of journalists. In fact, we could use more journalists who think things over rather than simply parrotting what politicians say.

Hillary's problem, other than being a special interest supported politician, is that she has no class.

As far as I can tell, when held up to the universal health care systems the rest of the world has, NEITHER of these candidates are providing any sort of universal health care. the system in this country needs an overhaul to a single payer system like the rest of the reasonable world.

but instead, we have one candidate who would force every american to buy a policy from an insurance company, and one candidate who just swears he'll make it cheaper. we need a health care system where any human being, anywhere in the country, can walk into a hospital and receive whatever treatment they need. we need to end for-profit health care.

Oh #10, how you've fallen into the trap.

Politics of fear? How about Obama, saying that if the superdelegates don't vote for who wins the popular vote, there will be trouble (except the superdelegates that already support him from Clinton-won states!). How about "the people should decide" (but not voters in MI or FL, who had no say in the party's decisions, and who already had a full opportunity to make their decision)? How about smugly threatening Clinton supporters that she'll cause a Republican victory?

How about complaining about Clinton responding to negative mailings, and then saying "they're part of how campaigns are run"--when his WHOLE CAMPAIGN is a complaint about negative complaining? I thought he was a "different" kind of politician who was spreading a positive message? How about promising to take public funds and waffling on it? How about attacking Clinton's "support" for NAFTA, while himself voting to extend it and having no plan to repeal it (and admitting that Clinton's approach to fixing it is right)? How about causing a stir about a photo not even embarrassing, released not by the campaign itself?

How about arrogant remarks pivoting any criticism to a "desperate" attempt to "score points"? I can't help but notice, every time he says "score points", he...scores points, because it's a politically calculated move. How about claiming leadership experience as a committee chair but never once holding a meeting in that entire time (over a year!)?

Obama's greatest trick was convincing a chunk of this country that he's not a politician.

I just don't understand how Obama will require the parents to have insurance for their children and not cover themselves. I would think that the parents would pay for a family plan. In my situation, my husband lost his job and his insurance for the whole family. He couldn't afford to pay the 1200. toward his insurance without the job subsidizing his plan. For a while we had no coverage until my pediatrician told me about the Children's fund and about free care. Without any assistance from the government many people who are laid off from their jobs could not afford to pay for insurance. When someone has been working at a job for over 20 years, and try to find a decent paying job in the field it is often impossible. With the meager wages from the jobs one can get who can afford health insurance?