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No surrender for Clinton

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor February 20, 2008 10:38 AM


Hillary Clinton might be reeling after 10 consecutive losses, many of them blowouts, but she shows no signs of giving up as the Democratic presidential race heads to showdowns March 4 in Ohio and Texas.

She gave a defiant speech this morning at Hunter College in New York City, where she pressed the case that Barack Obama is thin on track record and not ready for the Oval Office. Clinton cited an appearance on MSNBC by an Obama surrogate who, when pressed repeatedly to name a legislative accomplishment for the Illinois senator, was unable to come through.

"We're asking to compare our records," Clinton implored. "We're asking to compare our years of service."

But comparing delegates shows that Obama is an increasingly strong position after a 58 percent to 41 percent victory in the Wisconsin primary on Tuesday and a 76 percent to 24 percent whitewash in the Hawaii caucuses.

Obama's camp said today that he leads by 159 pledged delegates -- those determined by the results of primaries and caucuses. Because Democratic delegates are awarded proportionately, Clinton would have to rack up big margins in Ohio and Texas to catch up. According to an Associated Press tally that also includes committed superdelegates, Obama leads 1,336 to 1,251.

The Clinton campaign responded today by launching a delegate update website to keep up with the ins and outs. Interestingly, it says that 2,205 delegates are needed to clinch the nomination -- a figure that assumes that the disputed delegates from Florida and Michigan are seated at the national convention. Many party leaders have said it would tear apart the party if that happens.

51 comments so far...
  1. I hope that her campaign does not turn nasty in the final stages to try to drag him down in order to catch up. Disagreeing on policy issues like her Healthcare adds in Wisconsin are fine, but making a bru ha about "plagerism" is sad. Hillary is a great leader in our party and hopefully she can reign in the "win at all costs" elements of her campaign.

    Posted by Dave February 20, 08 11:13 AM
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  1. I hope that her campaign does not turn nasty in the final stages to try to drag him down in order to catch up. Disagreeing on policy issues like her Healthcare adds in Wisconsin are fine, but making a bru ha about "plagerism" is sad. Hillary is a great leader in our party and hopefully she can reign in the "win at all costs" elements of her campaign.

    Posted by Dave February 20, 08 11:13 AM
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  1. Hillary Clinton will do anything and say anything to get elected. She and her husband represent the worst that America has to offer. She is intellectually dishonest and morally bankrupt. She talks about being ready day one, about her years of experience and public service... what experience, what years of service? Except for her marriage to Bill, she hardly has the wealth of experience that she claims.
    Although I lean a bit to the right on most issues, I'm an independent, and am sick of the slash and burn politics practiced by the Clintons (and others). If we are ever to get anything done in this country, for the people of this country, it's time to put the Clintons, and those like them, behind us forever.

    Posted by greg belsheim February 20, 08 11:14 AM
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  1. Hillary campaign is as dead as the New England Patroits perfect season.

    Posted by Tom Kingsley February 20, 08 11:15 AM
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  1. Go home Hillary. We don't want your corruption here. Obama 08!
    Her list of crimes range from voting for war to appointing her own judge to rule in her favor in Paul V Clinton. Dirty, dirty. And that fact that she tried to diminish Obama based on a line his own friend suggested he use- that's just laughable. The White House belongs to America, not the Clintons, and we don't want them ruling it again.

    Posted by Sally February 20, 08 11:20 AM
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  1. What does she mean by ""We're asking to compare our years of service." so I guess Barack is running against both clintons. Big mistake on her part or just something new to try because all else is failing.

    Posted by Jorge February 20, 08 11:20 AM
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  1. Hark. Is that a rotund madam I hear clearing her throat in the wings? ~Supracus Delagatae~ ! chanted the three witches into their bubbling cauldron."

    -Shakespeare's McClinton

    Posted by PulSamsara February 20, 08 11:24 AM
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  1. Here's a useful site - an unbiased comparison of their actual votes in the Senate. There is certainly a difference, and for my part, the difference leads me clearly to Obama.

    http://politicalmaelstrom.blogspot.com/2008/01/actual-differences-between-barack-and.html


    Posted by David in NC February 20, 08 11:24 AM
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  1. I think Fidel Castro resigned so he can be Hillary's running mate. They make a great team!

    Posted by LW February 20, 08 11:38 AM
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  1. Here, here. Excellent speech that is not fluff but points out that we DO need a Solutions based President.

    Posted by Carol February 20, 08 11:42 AM
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  1. i am an AMERICAN, and dam proud of it. i am 66 years old and understand exactly what Michelle Obama was saying about being proud. the media and others are trying to make something big of it. not since J.F.K in the early sixties, has anyone been able to bring as much spirit and energy to young Americans. Never in my life time did i ever vision to see this country come to meet the meaning of Dr. Martin L. king,judge a man by his character,and not by the color of his skin. Never have i been so proud to be an american as i am today,to see how this country has come such a long way ,that a woman,and a black man can be be leader of the greatest nation in the world. maybe her wordings were wrong, but meaning was loud and clear.

    Posted by Jack Moore February 20, 08 11:45 AM
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  1. Nothing the Clintons do will shock me lets be honest she and her husband will do anything to place her in the white house,even if that means 1.sitting the delegates from Florida and Michigan which all parties agreed not to do (now that she is losing her position has changed) 2. putting pressure on the super delegates to cast their vote for her versus how the states they represent voted 3 watch the third shoe if the first two still dont put her over the top then she and bill will pursue getting some of obamas delegates to change their vote to her.... if any of this happens she and her husband will split the democratic party right down the middle and it will take years to recoup. Wouldnt be shocked if Obamas and his delegates walk out. I for one would then vote against her and hopefully all of Obamas followers will do the same give mccain a hugh % victory and then look to 2012 when we will have Obama without the Clintons since she will no longer have a following because she was beaten so bad in the election.

    Posted by Bill February 20, 08 11:50 AM
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  1. I believe that Hillary Clinton without a shadow of a doubt IS THE MOST qualified and READY next president of the United States! She IS the ONLY candidate that TRULY DOES state not only the problems but THE ONLY canidate that ACTUALLY GIVES THE SOLUTIONS!!! I think the word that SHOULD be emphasized in ALL of her speaches is the word SOLUTONS as her campain signs state. The TRUE sign of a TRUE leader is not one who hipes people up or one who uses scare tactics but THE ONE, THE ONLY ONE who TALKS AND WALKS the SOLUTIONS !!!!!!!!!! The ONE and ONLY canidate that not just talks but actually WALKS THE WALK, the walk to and of SOLUTIONS , the one and only candidate ready and able to lead our country, THE most qualified leader, Hillary Clinton !!!!!!!!!

    Posted by Kathleen Kingsley February 20, 08 11:53 AM
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  1. how can a dem country and a dem party leave out the votes.of Mich and Florida
    Shame on you U S. We are watching from Canada

    Posted by erich Ebner February 20, 08 11:54 AM
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  1. No surrender... yet. She would have to SLAM in Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania, and that's simply not going to happen. I think Obama's going to take Texas, and if Wisconsin is any indication, as many say it is, then Ohio may go his way as well. I think this is effectively over, and though I harbor no ill-will to Mrs. Clinton personally, I also think an Obama win is good news for our nation and our world.

    Posted by David in NC February 20, 08 11:57 AM
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  1. The moral and ethical dilemma continues; in that, people theoretically start out
    pursing their burning desire of becoming an effectual public servant advocate.
    Too often, some individual advocacy perceptions are rather limited in scope, and
    subsequently undermining, because they don’t view human problems and challenges as one challenge to the entire nation. That being said, their advocacy becomes restricted to selfish propositions that overwhelmingly, undermine and restrict our rightful potential for REAL and TRUE Greatness . . . that none of us has experienced!!!

    Unfortunately, any so-called Public Servant that doesn’t respect the official position that occupies him or her in their quest of serving the people can’t be expected to serve with honorable distinction. Meaning, serving the best interest of ALL the people!!! Not the political party, not the financial contributors, not people who are part of their inner circle!!! Serving with distinction means you have learned to listen to the masses of citizens who await . . . Real and True Leadership with vision and Statesmanship. We know the difference, so please stand on Truth and serve with distinction! Any candidate who is willing to level unmerited cheap shots at her party member . . is not demonstrating sound moral character. This divisive attribute will surely work against the best interest of our nation and our need to finally unify on a sound ethical and moral foundation . Thanks Senator Obama for Standing Up!

    Posted by Ricardo Rose February 20, 08 11:58 AM
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  1. Say anything, do anything to get the job.

    The intro of this new site itself contains the typical Clinton abuse of language
    pointed right at their core supporters. People who on average wait to be told
    what to think.

    They are now introducing the Clintonism that there is some predetermined set
    of qualifications for the job which excludes things like negotiating skills, and
    includes, of course, changing the rules that you created before the game started just when it becomes obvious that you are going to lose.

    To use an analogy that they used yesterday, I would hate to be in a boxing
    match with them where four rounds in, after taking a good beating, they
    introduced the biting off your ear rule or kicking below the belt rule as
    mandatory and necessary to determine the most qualified winner.

    Frightening that these people have the self respect to show their faces in
    public much less get up in front of 300 million people and insult them
    on a daily basis.

    Posted by NOTHRC February 20, 08 12:03 PM
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  1. Really now, a nice excerpt of some of the legislation that Obama has passed would have been a good addition to a balanced article. Comparing the records in the US Senate, Barack has passed 39 pieces of legislation to Hillary's 37.

    See a few of his accomplishments in legislation here: http://factcheck.barackobama.com/factcheck/2008/01/14/
    obamas_strong_record_of_accomp.php

    In the Illinois Senate, Barack passed a wealth of legislation for expanding healthcare, ethics reform and one that I find interesting is his ability to bring the opposition to dealth penalty reform (republicans & the police force were 2 main ones) to a unanimous decision supporting the legislation. After this, the police went on to endorse Barack for US Senate. This is just one example of how he brings people together to get things done.

    And Barack has solid plans to do just that. Check out Barack's plan for change at: http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf

    Posted by Sherry February 20, 08 12:06 PM
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  1. Fundamental fairness?
    Mrs. Clinton where were you six months ago when the rules came out for Florida and Michigan?
    That is why my vote goes to an outsider of Washington DC.
    Always making rules for youself first without thinking about others.

    Posted by Alex Aranda February 20, 08 12:10 PM
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  1. This is what king Darius of Persia said about Alexander the Great: "Can anyone name one of his accomplishments?". The rest is history.

    Posted by Formyx February 20, 08 12:11 PM
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  1. I'm as perplexed today as I was six month's ago by Ms Clinton's claims of extensive experience.

    Posted by TK February 20, 08 12:16 PM
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  1. For all of you who say Obama is an inexperienced candidate who only makes pretty speeches: Read his early position papers from the mid '90's/


    I WAS A CLINTON SUPPORTER, but not I know better. OBAMA has a vsion for america that will make us strong and respected and prosperous again. ANYONE can get experts to write lengthy policy papers - BUT it's translating those ideas into action. Obama has what it takes and more - able to lead (look at his campaign) able to inspire (The evidence is here for us to see) , teh ability to transcend pettiness( despite negative attacks) and the passion , the belief to make it happen!

    T


    a)_ Good

    Posted by Sean February 20, 08 12:24 PM
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  1. Bottom line, Barack is definitely fully qualified to be our next President regardless of what Hil, and we would then have yet another four years where nothing much gets done to help the people who need it. She and Bill are so positive that they have the only answers to all of our problems...this doesn't leave much room for compromise. Doesn't help much if you are "ready on Day One" if you can't get folks to go along with you. And her 35 years of experience are composed of following Bill and his career around...I can certainly do without that as a qualification.

    It's going to be sad in a way when she finally has to face the face that she has lost. That picture will definitely be worth a thousand words.

    Posted by Mary A February 20, 08 12:31 PM
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  1. Experience, what experience does any Senator have at being President????NONE!!! Hillary is NOT Bill!!! If Hillary wins, who will run the White House??? People wake up!!!! Hey Billary supporters, how is your candidate going to deal with the Middle East??? Seeing that the religion of Islam does not look too favorable upon women??? How can you promise that your candidate will not be hosed over???

    Posted by FEDDY B. February 20, 08 12:36 PM
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  1. Kathleen Kingsley is there any CHANCE you could capitalize more words. You are the epitome of a CLINTON FOLLOWER. Your passage and Clinton's campaign are in its death throws. You screech just like Hillary Hitler, thinking that if you just screech hard enough, every thing will be all right.

    Posted by jim walker February 20, 08 12:41 PM
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  1. Experience....How does that take her to the White house. If she does win the nomination based on her "Experience", what will be her pitch against McCain. Experience certainly will not do her any good. This is about issues, and to a great extent leadership. Maybe its time for America to have a great speaker as president who can inspire people to restore its glory and prosperity

    Posted by Vinny February 20, 08 12:42 PM
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  1. Hillary has a bigger problem than securing the Democratic Nomination. The nature and style of her campaign has become deeply offensive to New Yorkers who mistakenly embraced her as a Senator and who will ultimately repudiate her if she seeks re-election. Hillary's campaign has engaged in excessive race and gender baiting. The politics of victimization designed to appeal to misinformed and uneducated women has resonated only with those on the left side of the bell curve and for the most part completely alienated progressives, independents and disaffected Republicans. Furthermore, her win in the New York Primary is now open to debate. See: New York's Mayor Michael Bloomberg "Fraud" Behind Low Obama Vote in New York (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/20/bloomberg-fraud-behind_n_87564.html ).

    Posted by Christopher London February 20, 08 12:47 PM
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  1. If the Florida and Michigan delagates are seated at the national convention and Hilary gets the nomonation because of it I will vote for John McCain and would encourage everyone else to do the same.


    Note to erich Ebner from Canada: MIND YOUR OWN FREAKING BUSINESS.

    Posted by Boo-Hoo February 20, 08 12:48 PM
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  1. Both candidates can have healthy discussions on real policy. Mud slinging will definitely turn voters away - I for one - will be extremely discouraged by Clinton if there is such attacks

    Posted by Bill Savage February 20, 08 12:53 PM
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  1. Put a skirt on Obama and he would make a great CHEERLEADER (Yes, we can, Yes, we can) BUT Cheerleaders don't Win Games...You need a Great Quarterback....Clinton.

    Posted by k. ward February 20, 08 01:01 PM
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  1. Billary just doesn't want to see the writing on the bathroom stall wall.

    We're not finding a CEO.

    We're not looking for a Fundraiser like a University President.

    We're not bringing in an old experienced Beltway-vetted hand.

    We're electing a Leader.

    One to lead this country out of the long dark teatime of the soul, into a bright new century.

    We're replacing the system.

    Comprende?

    The writing is on the wall that it's over, and if she behaves graciously, I'll be inclined to indeed feel sorry for her. Does anyone really expect the b!tch to do that?

    More likely, I'm expecting a double dose of venom. A last-ditch death wish. In which case, I'll be wishing for somebody to douse the Wicked Witch with a bucket of water.

    Somebody get the popcorn.


    Reality Check

    Posted by Reality Check February 20, 08 01:01 PM
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  1. She made a great speech, actually, and cut through the Obama rhetoric. It's hardly surprising that his supporters can't outline his policies-he rarely bothers himself these days. It's about time the broadcast media in particular thought about pressing him on specifics, rather than gagging for more of his soundbites, too. Then we might all be a bit better off.

    Posted by KLT February 20, 08 01:02 PM
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  1. Sorry Hillary, it was good effort. Obama will be the next President.

    Posted by DenisR February 20, 08 01:02 PM
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  1. Anyone who cannot acknowledge an opponent's victory does not have the characteristics of a leader. Hillary Clinton's narcicism is so great that she could not even mention or congratulate Obama last night. She seems to feel so entitled to win that she conveniently skips over the entire event-are we supposed to ignore it too? Aren't genuine leaders expected to have grace under fire?
    As to her trumpeted accomplishments, her health care plan was a disaster. Why? In part, again because of her personality-she did not want input from experts in the field, she worked behind closed doors and alienated lots of people, including Democrats and health care professionals dedicated to their patients. Her diviseveness and co-opting Bill's experience as if it were her own make her a terrible choice.
    I remember JFK and how it felt to be an American then-to aspire to greater things, tto be hopeful, to feel secure that we were the good guys. I am the demographic tthat the talking heads say are Hillary's stronghold-65,white, female. And of course lthere's no reason a woman shouldn't be President of the U.S.-just not that woman.
    Character and judgement count in a president. With those qualities a great leader can inspire people to get behind the plans he instructs his advisors to generate.
    Barack Obama is the right man for this time, and the country needs him, his leadership, his ideas and his capacity to bring out the best in all of us.

    Posted by Leslie February 20, 08 01:10 PM
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  1. It is clear than Mrs. Clinton is being misleading to voters. She has no other choice. By lying and being unclear about everything, she wants to cast doubt on someone who is superior to her in every sense. Her experience is surmountable to nothing. Being first lady means nothing when you accomplished nothing. She talks of corporate ties when she herself was a corporate slave. Mrs. Clinton being caught in all of your lies and misleading speeches only makes you look worse than you already are. Go back to whence you came. You are not welcome here.

    Posted by Patrick C. February 20, 08 01:19 PM
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  1. This "delegate hub" is ridiculous.... "FACT: Florida and Michigan should count, both in the interest of fundamental fairness and honoring the spirit of the Democrats' 50-state strategy."

    Rubbish! You already agreed that they wouldn't count (& that you wouldn't campaign in either state) after they moved their primaries up without DNC authorization. The voters in these states should not be disenfranchised, but they were disenfranchised by the people who scheduled the primaries.
    It would be "fundamentally fair" of you to honor the agreements you made before the primaries started.

    Posted by John February 20, 08 01:20 PM
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  1. Here is all you need to know about the difference between Clinton and Obama:
    In her speeches, listen - its this is what "I" will do, this is what"I"' will do, this is what "I" will do ........... his speeches are this is what "we" will do, this is what "we" will do, this is what "we" will do. It perfectly demonstrates the way they view the world. We have to have a huge team effort to solve the problems we have today.
    She will try to lie, cheat or steal this nomination and we cannot let that happen.
    The candidates agreed not to campaign in Florida and Michigan - Obama was not even on one of those ballots - we cannot allow them to seat those delegates. We
    had the last election stolen from us, we cannot allow another one!

    Posted by Sally Smith February 20, 08 01:20 PM
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  1. wow great stuff on this blog. How is dysfunctional is this country? We will know this answer if Hillery is the next president thats for sure . I can not say that I am thrilled with any candidates republican or democrat.

    One thing is for sure. the US economy is threatened daily, sad but true. We need a leader that knows how to run a successful business and apply these protocols to running the nations economy that person stepped down for the good of his party.

    We also need to enforce our boarder as well as have a leader to make us strong on the national defense front. No more 9/11 please. Hillary! need not apply


    country ignorant bullys

    Posted by Palmer Collier February 20, 08 01:21 PM
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  1. Once again, we see Hillary showing her true nature. If experience mattered then Bob Dole would have won in 1996. Hillary Clinton and her supporters still don't get it. It's all about hope, honesty, integrity, and taking the moral high ground when the chips are down. Something old style politicians cannot comprehend.

    Frankly, I am fed up with the Clintons whining about minutia when things do not go their way. Florida and Michigan voted early to jump on the "Clinton Bandwagon" thinking that Obama was a nothing and his supporters expendable. Surprise, Surprise! I'll take honesty, integrity and Hope over experience anytime. You go Girl! Keep showing the world what your kind of experience is made of.

    Ah yes, and then there is that flap about Michigan and Florida. With honest people, rules matter. When you break them, you accept the punishment and move on. Don't kid yourself, Michigan and Florida only matter to Hillary because she is crumbling like a Giuliani rerun. Do you want a fair an equitable solution to the "Disenfranchised Voters?" Just flush the Michigan and Florida results down the toilet and allow both states to hold new primaries after the last democratic primary results are tallied.

    Dana

    Posted by Dana February 20, 08 01:25 PM
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  1. Democrats had a legitimate chance to win the election in November but that will never happen if Obama is the party's choice. He will never win Ohio or Florida in a general election and a Democrat can't prevail without one of those states. Most if not all the battleground states are going to McCain. Inspiring words can only take you so far. Once we leave fantasy land (where most Democratic voters seem to reside) the idea of puting the country in the hands of a liberal democrat who is totally unqualified for the job will be rejected by most Americans. Once again, the Democrats will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Sad but true.

    Posted by Barbara February 20, 08 01:31 PM
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  1. clinton stated she did not understand that ..she was voting to use force in iraq...now she wants to seat.. fla.and mich..is it that when she agreed not to seat fla.and mich that also.. clinton did not understand it..in texas clinton is saying that even a man would not understand how texas divides their delegates..its funny that with 35 years of so called experience..that clinton does noy understand about how things work in government..its time the clinton lie machine..step down for the good of the party...

    Posted by tom February 20, 08 01:39 PM
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  1. Clinton doesn't get it; people want a change from the past, and are not anxious to send her and her contentious husband back to the White House. People don't care of Obama's experince or lack of it; they want a change of personalities no matter how empty his candidacy is. Other than a heroic war record, John Kennedy had no political resume. Compared to Nixon, he had almost no experience. Nixon, as Clinton today, represented the past and people of the 60s were ready for a change as they are today. Clinton can bring up the experience gap all she wants; most of the voters don't care, and few are listening to her argument.

    Posted by Jeff Saeli February 20, 08 01:53 PM
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  1. I do not understand why the media made a fuss about Senator Clinton insisted to make her middle name "Rhodam" known and announced whenever she is introduced but media and Obama supporters would call everybody racist or spoiler if he or she mentions Obama' s middle name"HUSSEIN". Why can't he proudly introduce himself "I'm Barrack Hussein Obama" or be introduced as such every time he is on stage making speech? . I stopped watching MSNBC since they showed hatred , insults and unfair comments towards the Clintons especially to Chelsea . What have they done to you? It's sad to see an unexperienced man with two years in the senate getting a free ride. I've been a democrat but I may vote for republican

    Posted by Hong February 20, 08 02:00 PM
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  1. I think it's a good idea to compare legislative records:

    Obama's health care in Illinois is a successful, covering kids. Hillary's, not so much.

    Obama stood against the war, Hillary has voted for use of the military many times.

    Obama has authored and passed major ethics legislation in both the Illinois and US Senate. For Hillary, she tries to disenfranchise voters in NV, break the rules she agreed to for FL and MI, and reports continue in the press about President Clintons colorful use of his presidential influence.

    Obama brings people together to pass important legislation (Lugar-Obama nuclear and conventional weapons disarmament, Coburn-Obama government transparency, Illinois police video taping of interrogations and racial profiling....). The Clintons drive Republicans to not only dig in their heels, but to spend $70 million on an impeachment investigation.

    Obama has rejected money from lobbyists. Hillary is backed by the military and many other lobbyists. Obama will be free from obligations other than to the American people. Hillary's support for the military has sometimes been stronger than Bush's.

    In comparing Obama and Hillary, it's important to note that Hillary never does so. It's clear why.

    Posted by Matt February 20, 08 02:27 PM
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  1. I really think judgement can trump experience in a potential president.

    The last president we had who could legitimately claim strong foreign policy credentials was GHW Bush and, while I think he's grown in stature during his post-presidency, I doubt he'll be viewed by history as a very effective president. In retrospect, what did Reagan, Clinton and Bush 2 bring to the table for experience? They were governors but did that guarantee they'd be effective presidents? As far as attention to detail, Carter was supposedly a micro-manager and it didn't benefit his presidency. Reagan was not a details guy, yet he understood a large part of the job of president was persuasion, advocacy, decision-making and leadership. Ironically, a thick resume, even including executive experience, doesn't guarantee any of those talents.

    Obama is asking voters to trust his judgement to surround himself with the right people to handle the details. That's the deal he's offering. Hillary wants you to believe she can handle the details based on this myth of "35 years of experience". Even if it were true (and it's simply not) it wouldn't guarantee anything. The truth is she has neither the experience nor the persuasive talents to be anything other than an ineffective (at best) president. Look at the campaigns they've run and ask yourself who you'd trust to put together an effective team and let it thrive.

    Posted by Frank February 20, 08 02:28 PM
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  1. There is only one qualified candidate - - HILLARY CLINTON - PRESIDENT
    The Obama organizations have now taken a coordinated program of attack to "swift boat " , and Bush 2000 tactics with distortions, lies and outright fabrications especially to deny Florida and Michigan their " inalienable right " to vote.

    No non-govt. organization has the right to dictate when any State chooses to vote; this will not hold water in any Federal Court ! ! HILLARY - - HANG TOUGH - - not as Kerry and Gore did !

    We need - the U.S.A needs - PRESIDENT HILLARY CLINTON ! ! ! !

    Posted by George Spanos February 20, 08 06:48 PM
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  1. Actually Hillary surrendered around ten delegates because she didn't a file a full slate of delegates for Pennsylvania's primary. An extension was given by the governor and they still dropped the ball. Oops!

    Seems odd Hillary has a sign reading, "Solutions for America" on the podium when she's can't find a solution to save her campaign. If her support continues to erode, will Hillary step aside or split the party and turn the Democratic convention into a circus? Anyone want to bet she cries at least one more time as she, "finds her voice"?

    Posted by Chris335 February 20, 08 07:22 PM
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  1. Yep, Obama's surrogate had a really bad day and blanked out on air.

    That does NOT mean that Sen. Obama doesn't have great policies and ideas. He has sponsored or co-sponsored hundreds of them in the US and IL State Senates --- come to think of it, Mrs. Clinton, the number comes to more bills than you've headed up.

    Obama doesn't see or hear poor and lower-middle-class people, Hillary? You are scraping the bottom for the last dregs, now. He worked for those exact people for far longer than you worked for Children's Defense Fund, where you sojourned for a year or so before you waltzed off to join the Board of WalMart to go fight unions.

    Could you please run on the issues, for once? Not whether your surrogate is better than his, or whether you can change the delegate rules in mid-stream, or send out the most disingenuous mailings? Just once, be straight-forward and honest? The American people have been through a lot lately, and the last thing we need is a Democrat trying to out-Rove Karl Rove.

    Posted by Elise in NH February 20, 08 09:29 PM
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  1. Yep, Obama's surrogate had a really bad day and blanked out on air.

    That does NOT mean that Sen. Obama doesn't have great policies and ideas. He has sponsored or co-sponsored hundreds of them in the US and IL State Senates --- come to think of it, Mrs. Clinton, the number comes to more bills than you've headed up.

    Obama doesn't see or hear poor and lower-middle-class people, Hillary? You are scraping the bottom for the last dregs, now. He worked for those exact people for far longer than you worked for Children's Defense Fund, where you sojourned for a year or so before you waltzed off to join the Board of WalMart to go fight unions.

    Could you please run on the issues, for once? Not whether your surrogate is better than his, or whether you can change the delegate rules in mid-stream, or send out the most disingenuous mailings? Just once, be straight-forward and honest? The American people have been through a lot lately, and the last thing we need is a Democrat trying to out-Rove Karl Rove.

    Posted by Elise in NH February 20, 08 09:49 PM
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  1. I honestly don't understand why Obama supporters hate Hillary with a passion. I feel that many of those Obama supporters are young adults who have no idea about politics and only follow it because of what they see. To be honest, I rather have a President who has a lot more experience in office than any other and someone who can promote change. What makes people think someone with experience cannot promote change? I mean, "CHANGE" is the line Obama likes to use a lot. And I must say, everytime I see Obama give his speeches, all I think about is a rising cult.

    I am not saying I don't think Obama won't make a good president but I think he needs a couple of more years. And if he were elected, he'd look like a deer caught in headlights. He gives great speeches but to be honest, he can't pull off a great debate without looking like he's a lost little kid.

    Second, if he was elected, he'd be training in office. Think Bush.

    Honestly, there are only a few issues of main concern to me and Hillary is my first choice. I don't care if she was one to allow Bush to go into Iraq, that's not my main concern at all...

    As for those who compare Obama to JFK...well, JFK was good and all but didn't he make a few mistakes when he was in office?

    I'd like to see how this campaign goes -- the republicans will tear Obama down and he wouldn't know what to do...

    ...if Hillary doesn't win the democratic nominee, I'm voting McCain because he's not all that bad.

    Posted by Christina February 20, 08 09:58 PM
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  1. My advice to Hillary Clinton is No Surrender!! You are fighting for your political life, and it is better to fight and lose than never to have fought at all. What does she have to lose? After all, many Obama supporters and Republicans hate her venomously and not for any good reason. Obama is all Rah Rah! Rah! All he wants is the glory for himself. He wants to be idolized by fellow blacks as the Savior Martin Luther King envisioned in his dream. White voters are voting because they feel guilty for having kept the black man down all these centuries. I know what I am talking about and I am a black woman.
    Go Hillary, I will be always proud of you--Strong, compassionate, forgiving, generous and a Hero.

    Posted by Charly February 21, 08 02:02 AM
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