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Clinton camp argues Obama is falling

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor March 20, 2008 11:09 AM

While not specifically mentioning the contretemps involving Barack Obama's former pastor, Hillary Clinton's campaign is already pressing the case that the polls are showing its impact -- and raising questions about what that will do to Obama's electability in November.

Mark Penn, Clinton's chief strategist, issued a memo this morning that argues that polls are starting to show a shift her way.

"The more that the voters learn about Barack Obama, the more his ability to beat John McCain is declining compared to Hillary," Penn posits in the memo. "For a long time we have explained that poll numbers for a candidate who has not yet been vetted or tested are not firm numbers, and we are beginning to see that clearly."

The memo cites several polls -- nationwide and in key upcoming states -- that show Clinton leading Obama and Clinton faring better against presumptive Republican nominee John McCain.

"Ultimately, this Democratic nominating process is meant to select the candidate who will: a) be the best president – the best commander-in-chief, steward of the economy, and exercise leadership; b) defeat John McCain; and c) promote and defend core Democratic principles such as universal health care. On all three fronts, Hillary is the best choice for the Democratic Party," Penn writes.

But no polls have come out yet measuring the impact of Obama's much-praised speech on race Tuesday in which he condemned the inflammatory remarks of the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., but sought to place them in a larger context of America's racial history and challenges.

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  1. IF he was a Patriot, OBAMA would have left Wright's 'church' years ago.....but no, even to this day, moral indignation toward one who invokes God's name to condemn this country to hell is ABSENT!

    Here is the irony..... the ONE EMOTIONAL REACTION OBAMA ADMITS TO, is in the admission of "cringing" when his Grandmother spoke of a "racial stereotype" she held.

    So he CRINGED at Grandmother, but not a fleck of discomfort over WRIGHTS HATE SPEECH TOWARD AMERICA?????

    YOU ARE PATHETIC OBAMA

    Posted by Sean McM March 20, 08 12:02 PM
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  1. IF he was a Patriot, OBAMA would have left Wright's 'church' years ago.....but no, even to this day, moral indignation toward one who invokes God's name to condemn this country to hell is ABSENT!

    Here is the irony..... the ONE EMOTIONAL REACTION OBAMA ADMITS TO, is in the admission of "cringing" when his Grandmother spoke of a "racial stereotype" she held.

    So he CRINGED at Grandmother, but not a fleck of discomfort over WRIGHTS HATE SPEECH TOWARD AMERICA?????

    YOU ARE PATHETIC OBAMA

    Posted by Sean McM March 20, 08 12:05 PM
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  1. His numbers are where they are at the height of his worst controversy...which isn't quite as bad as about 7 of the Clintons.

    Posted by d March 20, 08 12:07 PM
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  1. who is being racist now

    Posted by pero March 20, 08 12:08 PM
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  1. I'm a lifelong democrat, but Hillary has conducted such an unethical campaign that I cannot vote for her. This country desperately needs someone who can restore dignity to the Whitehouse. Only 2 of the 3 remaining candidates can still do that...

    Posted by Jon March 20, 08 12:09 PM
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  1. The latest Clinton camp memo is contemptable! I am a life long Dem and a huge Obama supporter. I will vote for McCain before I vote for her

    Posted by R. B. - Dallas TX March 20, 08 12:10 PM
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  1. "God Damn America" ... those three words will defeat Obama in states where the Democrats must win.

    Posted by Rex Huskey March 20, 08 12:10 PM
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  1. Their is no way she can beat McCain or Obama. Clinton should just do the right thing and drop out. No one wants her as President.

    Posted by Barack O March 20, 08 12:12 PM
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  1. The Clinton's are pathetic and desparate. Seemingly, she is not going to stop at anything to get elected. She will say or do anything to get the nomination.

    Is she aware of how many cross over voters or voters who will just sit out the election that she is creating.

    I voted for Bill twice and loved the 1990's but this shrill, connicing, ruthless and desparate woman will never get my vote. I am 55 and have been able to vote for 37 years. I have never pulled a lever for a Republican but I will not vote for this scheming god awful woman.

    If she somehow steals the nomination, I will look at John McSAme in a different light. I will not vote for Shillary.

    Posted by Benjamin Franklin March 20, 08 12:13 PM
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  1. I think Obama is doing very well. H. Clinton is doing unethical campaign.

    Posted by REZA March 20, 08 12:13 PM
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  1. What the polls do not reveal is how many Obama supporters will defect to McCain if the Clinton's are nominated. Ultimately, "it's integrity, stupid."

    Posted by Jim Kelly March 20, 08 12:14 PM
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  1. its the enviroment, stupids....earth first......all ways...............

    Posted by wm musson March 20, 08 12:14 PM
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  1. typical clinton spin machine dirty politics. clinton and her group are ruthless, dishonest jerks.

    Posted by Jason K Himelstein March 20, 08 12:15 PM
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  1. Mr Obama has absolutely no analyzable 'track record', i.e., a 'paper trail' to give one the template to study. He gave one speech -- and, despite his Elmer Gantry-like post-2002 rhetoric, has been inconsistent and fatuous. He seems to be clinging to the idea that smiles and glib generalities are, somehow, equivalent to grasping the dangers this country confronts: islamic nazis; the insurance-medical-pharmaceutical complex literally killing us (cf. Michael Moore's stunning SICKO); Bubba Bush's administrative fascism bankrupting the U.S., etc. Mr Obama's speech on 'race' was devoid of cogent applicability. As a post-Auschwitz Jew, I do not need lectures in front of the American flag on tolerance and unity; during the Shoah, the U.S. government quietly abetted the exterminations with paper walls.

    Posted by Stephan Pickering March 20, 08 12:15 PM
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  1. Their is no way she can beat McCain or Obama. Clinton should just do the right thing and drop out. No one wants her as President.

    Posted by Barack O March 20, 08 12:15 PM
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  1. Just think of all the children that are subjected to that hate on a weekly basis in that church and it''s easy to see how racism begins.
    How much money has he donated to them over the years... will anyone even bother to find out??

    If it takes him 20 years to figure out his pastor is a bigot ...how can we trust his judgement on anything.

    Too bad his speech did not denounce the pastor. Saying "I can no more disown him then disown black america"...what???

    I wish someone would ask Obama if he believes "white america" put Aids in the black community!

    Obama does think you can fix everything with a speech.
    Now we can see why Obama's wife calls Americans "sloths" and says we are all "mean".

    He should never be President of a country they apparently have so much disdain for.
    If he didn't pick up something from his insipid preacher over 20 years of going to that church it is apparent his wife did.

    To bad we had the media pushing their own agenda for so long and only now are we finding this out.
    The democrats will never win the white house back now.


    Blah Blah ...Hope.. (hate)... Blah Blah... Change.. (same old thing)... Blah Blah ... Hope and Change..( just another politician)... Blah!

    Posted by Michelle March 20, 08 12:15 PM
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  1. If the Super Delegates vote in BO I will be hardpressed to understand why. Hilary will win the popular vote from here on out. She beat BO by 300,000 votes in Florida but now they do not count since they broke DNC rules and held the early primary. The Penalty I thought was that thy would not seat delegates. To me the popular vote total should still count in Florida and not in michigan (BO not on ballot) unles MI performs revote.

    CLINTON to LEAVE PARTY?

    Why not. If she does not get in I would love to see her leave the party and un anyway with Mike Bloomburg (NYC Mayer and Bloomburg founder) as her VP. The two of them together would turn this country in the direction we need to be. Who better then to understand the full scope of the econmy then Bloomburg? Who better to oversee policy both foreign and domestic then Hilary? To me that would be the "Dream Ticket". just my oppinion though.

    Posted by Rob from Jim Thorpe, PA March 20, 08 12:17 PM
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  1. So after his speech, and he begins to lead once again in the next set of polls...will Cinton and Penn admit defeat and concede?

    Posted by Jonathan R March 20, 08 12:17 PM
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  1. DUMB MARK PENN, READ THE LATEST CBS AND RASMUSEN POLLS TODAY 03/20 AND YOU WILL SEE THAT HILLARY IS STILL 3 POINTS BEHIND. YOU ARE SO DESPERATE NOW. THE ONLY THING YOU WANT TO SAY BUT HAVE NO GUTS, RATHER USING THE CONSERVATIVE MEDIA IS THAT OBAMA CAN NOT WIN BECAUSE HE IS BLACK AND WHITE.

    Posted by KESSY March 20, 08 12:18 PM
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  1. Yeah yeah the
    poll are only consistant when it come their way.............
    MI FL should re vote for that same reason--------------
    give us a break !

    Posted by Peter March 20, 08 12:19 PM
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  1. I am hopeful that the men and women of America understand that criticizing our government is a good thing, not to mention it is "freedom of speech." But I imagine that some men and women, have problems with it. I am only glad that they do not express themselves by jumping on a horse and having their wives make a white outfit for them and riding out in the dark night with their buds and throwing a rope around this historic man's neck. Or doing what China did when it tried to suppress the freedom of speech from the young man whose picture appeared recently on all of the newspapers around the world - you know the lone free man standing face front against the big Chinese tank in the college square. Which is worse, what white people did for years to blacks or what Wright expressed "not god bless America but god damn America. I say God damn America for raging war in Iraq. My son says _ _ _ _ Bush for raging war in Iraq. And he loves America as much as I do and reads history books for fun - he is a red haired and freckled white 22 year old male in America with many black friends. I am proud that he expresses himself so freely. What, would you condemn that eagle scount for being ashamed of some of the things white men in Congress have being doing to America? This white attorney mother of three is voting for Barack OBAMA. Thank God America has in its core value freedom of speech. I only hope we stop punishing people for expressing their thoughts.

    Posted by Angela Kortz Funke March 20, 08 12:19 PM
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  1. We need a president that will get this country back on track. I believe the Clintons have the experience and support to victory.

    Posted by Juan Antonio Rivera March 20, 08 12:20 PM
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  1. Hillary Clinton has not made ONE singular inspirational speech during this campaign. If you cannot inspire, how can you lead? Hillary Clinton and her cronies have done nothing but try and throw stones at Obama's rock solid integrity. She is a negative campaigner, and he has been nothing but positive. This article reflects yet another attempt by the Clinton's to scratch their way forward in what is a dying attempt to hold on to the nomination.

    Obama' 08.

    Posted by Robbiej March 20, 08 12:21 PM
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  1. Im not a democrat, and didn't vote for either Clinton or Obama in the primaries, but I have to make this comment. Every time I hear anything out of the Clinton camp, it's absolutely negative and, for lack of a better term s**t talking. I'm getting sick of hearing her talk almost as much as I'm sick of hearing Bush talk.

    Posted by Armand March 20, 08 12:21 PM
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  1. The Clinton Camp is out of touch. This old establishment is out of touch with the real people. If the Dems cheat Obama from the Democratic ticket She will LOSE.
    Why would we vote some of the same family members of have been in Office since Reagan was President. George Bush SR was VP 4 years then President for 4 years. Bill Clinton President for 8 years, George Bush JR 8 years. 24 years we cannot handle another 8.

    Posted by Big Al from Colorado March 20, 08 12:22 PM
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  1. The Clinton Camp is out of touch. This old establishment is out of touch with the real people. If the Dems cheat Obama from the Democratic ticket She will LOSE.
    Why would we vote some of the same family members of have been in Office since Reagan was President. George Bush SR was VP 4 years then President for 4 years. Bill Clinton President for 8 years, George Bush JR 8 years. 24 years we cannot handle another 8.

    Posted by Big Al from Colorado March 20, 08 12:23 PM
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  1. I THINK AMERICA NEEDS TO QUESTION OBAMA'S JUDGEMENT IN ATTENDING TRINITY CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS...WHOSE LEADER PROMOTES WHITE HATRED/COUNTRY HATRED. HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE POSTER BOY OF "UNITY", YET HE CAN'T LEAD BY EXAMPLE AND RAISE UP HIS DAUGHTERS IN A MIXED RACE CHURCH THAT TEACHES FROM THE BIBLE? SORRY...HE'S NO UNIFIER. I'VE NEVER SEEN HIM TO SHOW A LOVE OF THIS COUNTRY EITHER...AND THAT'S A DEAL BREAKER FOR ME. NO OBAMA FOR ME. CHANGE, HOPE, HATE.....OBAMA '08!

    Posted by DEBRA March 20, 08 12:23 PM
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  1. I guess Mark Penn believes in the democratic ideal that says forget the voters and their votes. Perhaps he should get a job in China or maybe Cuba.

    Posted by Jonathan R March 20, 08 12:23 PM
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  1. So the Clinton spin machine grinds on. Obama is the best candidate despite this overwrought wishful thinking. I really hope these tactics don't succeed. It would be a shame to get more of the same old political garbage. Obama is our only hope for honest change in Washington.

    Posted by Stephen Miller March 20, 08 12:23 PM
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  1. What a corrupt clinton crony.

    I sure hope they don't win. They will use the power of the government to destroy anybody that dares to disagree with them. Slander and slime are his calling cards.

    Posted by NickAtNight March 20, 08 12:23 PM
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  1. Looks like playing the race/religion card is working. Thanks for dragging us back to the mid-20th century.

    Posted by Jon March 20, 08 12:24 PM
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  1. Now the American people are being tested -- no longer the candidates.

    If Obama's poll numbers remain down after his speech, then the fascists will win.

    I'm curious, and scared, at what the polls will show during the coming week to ten days.

    Posted by cettel March 20, 08 12:24 PM
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  1. Hillary Camp's claim is bogus. Even republican are trying their best to send negative message so that Obama does not get Democratic party nomination. Hillary will be easier to beat by McCain and Obama will be formidable candidate for the republican to beat in November.

    Posted by Mukta Kar March 20, 08 12:25 PM
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  1. I think Hillary's camp is 'jumping the gun' in hopes that folks will believe her. I do not think we will see a trend toward her in polls taken after Obama's speech. I my opinion, if Hillary was really smart and wanted the best for our country, she would have called a news conference the day after Obama's speech and conceded. He is clearly the best candidate.

    Posted by Suzanne Graham March 20, 08 12:25 PM
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  1. The Clinton Camp is out of touch. This old establishment is out of touch with the real people. If the Dems cheat Obama from the Democratic ticket She will LOSE.
    Why would we vote some of the same family members of have been in Office since Reagan was President. George Bush SR was VP 4 years then President for 4 years. Bill Clinton President for 8 years, George Bush JR 8 years. 24 years we cannot handle another 8.

    Posted by Big Al from Colorado March 20, 08 12:25 PM
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  1. I guess Mark Penn believes in the democratic ideal that says forget the voters and their votes. Perhaps he should get a job in China or maybe Cuba.

    Posted by Jonathan R March 20, 08 12:25 PM
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  1. Two days ago, Barack Obama gave the most substantive, profound, nuanced, and compassionate speech on race ever delivered by an elected official and candidate. Before Mr. Penn seizes on one snapshot in the ever-fluctuating river of polls to promote his candidate, let's see if Senator Obama's words appeal to the better angels of the American and our collective human nature.

    Posted by Terry Boyer March 20, 08 12:26 PM
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  1. Doesn't the spin cycle just start to make you sick after a while? He is not being vetted by his pastor's comments. Hillary has been vetted? oh right.. it was when she voted for war in Iraq and more recently gave Bush more power to go to war with Iran. These are opportunities to be vetted.. not being held to the words of others.

    Obama has already won. There will be riots across the country if the Democratic Party defies the voters. What Hillary and her spinsters ARE managing to do however is making our chances worse of beating McCain... I hope everyone gives her a big round of applause at the end of this shameful campaign she is running. She just cannot let go to the fact that she ruined her sure win.

    She spins Obama on one side saying he is trying to slight voters in Michigan and FL when she pulls tricks behind the scenes like trying to delay the Texas votes coming up that will show Obama won, until after PA so she can still have people blinded as to why she is still running a race she has LOST.

    She is willing to tear us apart for the taste of power. The woman is a witch.

    Posted by FrancoocnarF March 20, 08 12:26 PM
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  1. Does the polls tell how many Obama supporters will vote for McCain if Hillary steals the nomination?

    Let's start that poll now, consider me a McCain voter if the Democrats nominate Hillary for the nomination.

    Posted by DM March 20, 08 12:26 PM
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  1. Two days ago, Barack Obama gave the most substantive, profound, nuanced, and compassionate speech on race ever delivered by an elected official and candidate. Before Mr. Penn seizes on one snapshot in the ever-fluctuating river of polls to promote his candidate, let's see if Senator Obama's words appeal to the better angels of the American and our collective human nature.

    Posted by Terry Boyer March 20, 08 12:26 PM
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  1. We need to be fair America; “everyone” wants Obama to denounce his church over speeches made by his Pastor. To be fair with Obama
    How many Catholics actually discontinued, denounced and demonized their Church after they found out that their Reverend, Pastors, Cardinals or Bishops was molesting young boys? Should all Catholics abandon their churches?
    One cannot be punish for the sins or wrongdoing of another.
    This is unnecessary distraction from the main issues facing America today, issues such as the Economy, the lost of lives of our men and women in uniform fighting in Iraq, health care, education and the future of our country etc…
    We have Presidency in denial, who actually believes the war was a success after five years, with so much lives lost, and Trillions of dollars spent. This should be the main attraction/issue for every realistic persons and journalists who love our country.
    The main question is why the so-called “journalist” chooses to pick on issues that are so irrelevant to the American lives. Does any one actually care more about the speech Obama Pastor made as compare to the lives of our dead service men and women, or over the endless war or over the economy, health care and crimes in our streets…?
    The entire sanitized journalists should be ashamed of the “work” they do. It seems journalism of today are so sanitized and afraid to be a real journalist, instead they have to pick on anyone/issues that secure their employment…what happened to fearless and courageous reporting? That is what journalism is.
    Would you please start been a journalist again by reporting issues that actually affects lives of the millions of Americans, issues ranging from how the best country in the world have so much homeless people and possible solution to eradicate homelessness, issues affecting the jobless Americans and their homes, the war, the miscarriage of justice in our society etc. Please be courageous in reporting, tearing people down is not journalism.
    Thank you for reading this.
    Emmanuel Ukpe

    Posted by Emmanuel Ukpe March 20, 08 12:27 PM
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  1. Doesn't the spin cycle just start to make you sick after a while? He is not being vetted by his pastor's comments. Hillary has been vetted? oh right.. it was when she voted for war in Iraq and more recently gave Bush more power to go to war with Iran. These are opportunities to be vetted.. not being held to the words of others.

    Obama has already won. There will be riots across the country if the Democratic Party defies the voters. What Hillary and her spinsters ARE managing to do however is making our chances worse of beating McCain... I hope everyone gives her a big round of applause at the end of this shameful campaign she is running. She just cannot let go to the fact that she ruined her sure win.

    She spins Obama on one side saying he is trying to slight voters in Michigan and FL when she pulls tricks behind the scenes like trying to delay the Texas votes coming up that will show Obama won, until after PA so she can still have people blinded as to why she is still running a race she has LOST.

    She is willing to tear us apart for the taste of power. The woman is a witch.

    Posted by FrancoocnarF March 20, 08 12:27 PM
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  1. show me the polls in 3 months and then I might consider this.

    She is too poll driven

    Posted by Nathan March 20, 08 12:27 PM
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  1. Yes team Clinton, keep saying it, and convincing yourself, and it will indeed come to be. Its still the votes that count, and no matter how many Rovian tactics you use against a fellow Democrat, you still have to cross the vote threshold. Had you banked on that?

    Posted by Karanja March 20, 08 12:28 PM
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  1. It is to be meant. If you are against the country, what rights do you have to lead this country? OEM

    Posted by OEM March 20, 08 12:29 PM
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  1. Barak Obama's double standard is evident when it involves white people.It is not race , but anti-Americanism remarks that I object. To hear such vitriol about a country that gives opportunities as no other is shameful. The Senator's speech did nothing to adress the the racist remarks by his pastor. Racism is not only a white problem, but it foments in the black community--just listen to the justification..

    Posted by Sigrida M. Heathcote March 20, 08 12:30 PM
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  1. I don't care what his pastor says, does, eats, spits, farts, steals etc. I beleive in Obama. He is a real person driven by real issues and beleives in the right way to turn this country around. If people are so vein as to be persuaded to flip to Clinton then they should just stay home and not come out. The Clinton campaign can say all they want. The will NOT persuade my vote for Obama, just make it stronger.

    Posted by A White 50 Year Old Male March 20, 08 12:31 PM
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  1. So let me get this straight.... States only count if Hillary wins them, polls only count if Hillary is ahead, and when the time comes, a delegate lead will only count if Hillary has it. Wow... just, wow.

    Posted by Lionel March 20, 08 12:31 PM
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  1. Another "bold" statement from the Hillary camp. Every time things don't go her way, she changes the rules. As soon as the polls begin showing her behind again, she'll start saying that "polls don't matter, it's elected delegates, it's the popular vote, it's the superdelegates, it's Michigan" Give me a break. Is this the type of leadership America needs?

    Posted by John March 20, 08 12:31 PM
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  1. It is to be meant. If you are against the country, what rights do you have to lead this country? OEM

    Posted by OEM March 20, 08 12:31 PM
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  1. It is to be meant. If you are against the country, what rights do you have to lead this country? OEM

    Posted by OEM March 20, 08 12:31 PM
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  1. What a bunch of vile political crap. Penn is trying to create a poll result that confirms his supposition. This is one more feature of the kitchen sink strategy from a desperate campaign that knows the nomination is slipping through their fingers. When the real poll arrives, and shows gains for Obama, this statement will be forgotten and there will be a fresh attack on some other picayune non-issue.

    It's time for Hillary to throw in the towel, get behind Obama and stop the bickering among dems. With each day the dems don't have a nominee, McCain gets stronger. If she bows out gracefully now, maybe she'll get the #2 spot, or at least be able to reappear in 2016. If she tears Obama down further, she's done forever.

    Posted by Scott Welker March 20, 08 12:31 PM
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  1. I CAN"T stand Mark Penn or HRC....and I can't wait for their demise....

    Posted by gabbie March 20, 08 12:32 PM
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  1. Looking at Gallup Polls, it seems that the lead has exchanged hands a number of times. So, "Hillary was falling" a couple of times, and "Obama was falling" a couple of times. Things change in the polls.

    I think this level of chatter is a sign of desperation in the Hillary Camp.

    The one thing Hillary has an abundance of is ambition (it seems limitless). Now that seems to be followed closely by her desperation, which is clearly showing up more and more.

    Posted by HairyR March 20, 08 12:32 PM
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  1. HRC will stop at nothing and sending her campaign idiot out to proclaim why she is best is no news to anyone. Barack Obama's campaign has creamed her in more than double the contests and her team does nothing more than bring down the candidate who will win the Democratic nomination. If Florida State had the goal post movers that Clinton has they would have beat Miami and been world champions three more times. I will give her deserved points on tenacity but subtract many more for integrity and class which is now clearly evident she is unable to display.

    Posted by Pat O'Brien March 20, 08 12:32 PM
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  1. Why is Hillary suddenly doing better than Obama in the polls....SURPRISE! She just hired a new polster who told her so. Her campaign is getting so desperate they'll try anything to stop the bleeding.

    Posted by Bill March 20, 08 12:32 PM
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  1. The Clinton camp is jumping the gun on this.... What Clinton need worry about is her records that have finally come out showing SHE DOES NOT HAVE THE CREDITABLITY TO LEAD AS SHE HAS PROCLAIMED.....

    As far as Obama's speech on the matter of his pastor, I think he was quite clear he does not agree with it. On the address af racism, it was a speech that is long past due, and should put the matter to rest.... You Go Obama, great job in stetting the mater to rest... Obama 08!!!!!!!!

    Posted by Judith March 20, 08 12:33 PM
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  1. hillary is like a pitt-bull on pcp. she was shot 11 times and she still keeps charging. losing elections does not seem to stop the pant suit monster. START LISTENING TO YOUR COLLEAGUES IN THE SENATE THAT SAY ITS OVER AND YOU ARE ACTING LIKE A LUNATIC perhaps someone needs to hit Billary over the head with a rubber hose to get her to stop

    Posted by ben schwartz March 20, 08 12:33 PM
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  1. HRC will stop at nothing and sending her campaign idiot out to proclaim why she is best is no news to anyone. Barack Obama's campaign has creamed her in more than double the contests and her team does nothing more than bring down the candidate who will win the Democratic nomination. If Florida State had the goal post movers that Clinton has they would have beat Miami and been world champions three more times. I will give her deserved points on tenacity but subtract many more for integrity and class which is now clearly evident she is unable to display.

    Posted by Pat O'Brien March 20, 08 12:34 PM
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  1. This is a most important election for America. We are falling apart internally because of an war that should have never occured. The financial strain for the country and citizens, loss of world respect and americans' faith in our government that things will improve must be answered. Electing the right person now will either make things better or ruin what is left. This is a time we desperately need someone with experience and good judgement as well as known with respect throughout the world.....Hillary Clinton is that candidate.

    Posted by Patricia Slagle March 20, 08 12:35 PM
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  1. I think Mark Penn or whatever he calls himself should read NY Times about Hillary's path to nomination getting narrower. He should also spend his valuable time trying to explain accounts of Sen. Clinton in the white house most especially her percieved commander-in-chief claim.

    Posted by Jiddy March 20, 08 12:35 PM
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  1. Bill and Hillary would do anything and say anything to get elected. Just the thought
    of Bill chasing women around the Oval Office again makes me sick.

    Posted by JERRY SCHILLING March 20, 08 12:35 PM
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  1. BALONEY! 4 or 8 more years of a Clinton is too much for me. I am sick to death of politicians of which the Clintons are the epitome of the poitical power couple.
    The economy under Bill Clinton might have been wonderful but I doubt very much it was his doing- who could have predicted the technology boom on Wall Street!.
    What jobs did Bill personally create????? and how about the Iraq sanctions and over 100,000 bombing misssions over Iraq?? Hilary is not a peacemakernor is she the person I want to represent womanhood!. She has been humiliated beyond belief for the chance to President. Do I see shades of Lady Macbeth?

    Posted by meg scata March 20, 08 12:35 PM
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  1. really. He does not love the country any way. Why argue to lead the country, if you do not love it. OEM

    Posted by OEM March 20, 08 12:36 PM
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  1. In the present situation, Hilary Clinton could be the only electable presidential nominee for the Democrats, instead of Sen. Obama, who could defeat Rep. nominee McCain. Though Obama is an eqully competent candidate, however, if the republican organize their presidential campaign using the racial divide in present day US Politics, they coould be able to defeat Obama. Though, I am all in favour of Obama, who will be an ideal candidate to bring about fundamental change in American politics, yet my genuine fear of his eletability at this time compels me to support Mrs. Clinton, who could defeat McCain. If there is no victory for the democrats, then what will be the use of supporting Obama. Obama, under these circumstances should consider opting for the Vice-Presidents' position, at this time, and such a team could be very good for the US

    Posted by Mohinder Singh Bains March 20, 08 12:38 PM
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  1. As I watched Barack Obama give his speech, and other speeches, I envisioned the President of the United States speaking before the UN, speaking to world leaders, speaking to the American people. I saw, and see in him, a world leader. A leader that can inspire. After all, heads of state can do nothing on their own. They achieve only by leadership and inspiring others.

    I can't imagine Hillary Clinton doing this. I can't imagine John McCain doing this. Those two represent the same old-same old.

    As for the "polls". Well, you wouldn't be able to print it.

    Posted by Rand Ardoin March 20, 08 12:39 PM
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  1. I used to have respect for her. She is doing what she accuses Obama's minister of doing. Why support such hateful ignorance? I could never vote for her. If she wins the nomination, I would have to vot for McCain.

    Posted by Karen March 20, 08 12:40 PM
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  1. People started to realize that Hillary is most qualified and the best candidate for president. She will also work hard to solve this serious and most challenging problems our country faces now.

    Posted by AE March 20, 08 12:40 PM
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  1. In the present situation, Hilary Clinton could be the only electable presidential nominee for the Democrats, instead of Sen. Obama, who could defeat Rep. nominee McCain. Though Obama is an eqully competent candidate, however, if the republican organize their presidential campaign using the racial divide in present day US Politics, they coould be able to defeat Obama. Though, I am all in favour of Obama, who will be an ideal candidate to bring about fundamental change in American politics, yet my genuine fear of his eletability at this time compels me to support Mrs. Clinton, who could defeat McCain. If there is no victory for the democrats, then what will be the use of supporting Obama. Obama, under these circumstances should consider opting for the Vice-Presidents' position, at this time, and such a team could be very good for the US

    Posted by Mohinder Singh Bains, M.A.,(Pol. Sc.) B.Ed. March 20, 08 12:41 PM
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  1. The Clinton camp actively sought to unearth whatever cheap, objectionable material they could dig up about a pastor from Obama's church--as if Wright himself were running for office--then claims victory when a poll suggests that their attack worked.

    How does any of this make our country better? Make no mistake: Low-ball campaigns come from low-ball candidates.

    It makes me sick, it makes me sad, and it makes me apathetic about participating in our democracy.

    Well done, Ms Clinton; you flashed your political genitalia, and the Johns could all but resist.

    Posted by Emlyn March 20, 08 12:41 PM
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  1. Obalma cannot win. He is stuck in the mud of his racist priest 's venom and his spiritual mentor is a fanatic. Obama will not leave this man whose speeches are ugly and atrocious, monstrous really. The priest uses the affluence of his church to hurl abuse at whites and at his country that can only make the racial divide worse. Goodness comes from goodness. Never from cruel words..

    Posted by Harvey Lloyd March 20, 08 12:41 PM
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  1. BALONEY! 4 or 8 more years of a Clinton is too much for me. I am sick to death of politicians of which the Clintons are the epitome of the poitical power couple.
    The economy under Bill Clinton might have been wonderful but I doubt very much it was his doing- who could have predicted the technology boom on Wall Street!.
    What jobs did Bill personally create????? and how about the Iraq sanctions and over 100,000 bombing misssions over Iraq?? Hilary is not a peacemakernor is she the person I want to represent womanhood!. She has been humiliated beyond belief for the chance to President. Do I see shades of Lady Macbeth?

    Posted by meg scata March 20, 08 12:41 PM
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  1. The Clinton camp actively sought to unearth whatever cheap, objectionable material they could dig up about a pastor from Obama's church--as if Wright himself were running for office--then claims victory when a poll suggests that their attack worked.

    How does any of this make our country better? Make no mistake: Low-ball campaigns come from low-ball candidates.

    It makes me sick, it makes me sad, and it makes me apathetic about participating in our democracy.

    Well done, Ms Clinton; you flashed your political genitalia, and the Johns could all but resist.

    Posted by Emlyn March 20, 08 12:41 PM
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  1. Saying that Hillary is the better candidate in all three fronts, to me is a bit over stated. It seems this conclusion was drawn because of the statement of the preacher. But what stand has obama himself taken concerning the issues at hand.

    Posted by GEORGE BLACKS March 20, 08 12:41 PM
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  1. People started to realize that Hillary is most qualified and the best candidate for president. She will also work hard to solve this serious and most challenging problems our country faces now.

    Posted by AE March 20, 08 12:42 PM
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  1. "I've attacked Obama for so viciously and for so many months that now he can't win in the fall! So vote for me!"

    Great new campaign slogan, Mrs. Clinton...

    Posted by Shinons March 20, 08 12:42 PM
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  1. I think shortly we will see in the polls the impact of Barack Obama's speech.
    I think Americans are smart enough to see through Hillary Clinton's spin. Why, why, why would we want the same old cronies in the White House?

    Posted by Nancy March 20, 08 12:42 PM
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  1. Senator Obama's speech said to me I am going to have the courage to stand by people even if it hurts me. I have the courage to love the person and their faults. I have the courage to talk about race and say black, white, latin, all have felt unfairly treated by this issue. I even have the courage to address my opponent's supporters with kindness and forgiveness on this issue and say "let's move on". That is strengh and courage to me. I am going to rise above it all and stay focused and not lower my self to politicals as usual........
    To me that is a leader. Is that inspiring? Of course it is! And why shouldn't it be! Why shouldn't we be inspired

    Posted by Karen Rodriguez March 20, 08 12:42 PM
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  1. I would like you to turn the discussion to Hillary's saying that "We cannot win the (Iraq) war." I believe that this statement is as unpatriotic as the Rev's unpatriotic criticism of the USA. And while delving into her background and Hillary's experiences, how about her affiliation with 'Whitewater' associates and the questions that were raised around the 'resolution' of that issue, as it pertained to the Clintons? And what about her unwillingness to divulge the source of her 'big dollar' funding? What about the fairness of equal time? Doesn't that refer to both the negatives as well as the positives? Please, enough trying to color Obama with the same brush as his pastor. It's not fair to drag that issue through the mud any longer. It doesn't change the fact that Obama is ahead in delegates and popular votes. While you have been dwelling on this, Hillary has been trying to turn the primaries into a sham. Let's be clear to the American public who look to the media for truth in reporting, that the primary is about the vote by population as represented by the count of delegates. The candidate with the most delegates wins! Very simple, indeed! Florida and Michigan were unfortunately disqualified from that process, but the candidates knew the rules at that time, and they agreed to those rules. Hillary is now trying to call 'foul' because she knows that she can't win the nomination fairly, and according to the rules of delegate count.. Please, please, I look to you to report the fact, not to spin the facts! Thank you.

    Posted by Judy Loft March 20, 08 12:42 PM
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  1. You wrote: "...he condemned the inflammatory remarks of the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., but sought to place them in a larger context of America's racial history and challenges". In fact, Obama tried to justify the hateful, racist bigotry of his pastor of 20 (!) years - and this is absolutely unacceptable. Obama is unelectable. Period.

    Posted by igor_ri March 20, 08 12:45 PM
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  1. I would like you to turn the discussion to Hillary's saying that "We cannot win the (Iraq) war." I believe that this statement is as unpatriotic as the Rev's unpatriotic criticism of the USA. And while delving into her background and Hillary's experiences, how about her affiliation with 'Whitewater' associates and the questions that were raised around the 'resolution' of that issue, as it pertained to the Clintons? And what about her unwillingness to divulge the source of her 'big dollar' funding? What about the fairness of equal time? Doesn't that refer to both the negatives as well as the positives? Please, enough trying to color Obama with the same brush as his pastor. It's not fair to drag that issue through the mud any longer. It doesn't change the fact that Obama is ahead in delegates and popular votes. While you have been dwelling on this, Hillary has been trying to turn the primaries into a sham. Let's be clear to the American public who look to the media for truth in reporting, that the primary is about the vote by population as represented by the count of delegates. The candidate with the most delegates wins! Very simple, indeed! Florida and Michigan were unfortunately disqualified from that process, but the candidates knew the rules at that time, and they agreed to those rules. Hillary is now trying to call 'foul' because she knows that she can't win the nomination fairly, and according to the rules of delegate count.. Please, please, I look to you to report the fact, not to spin the facts! Thank you.

    Posted by Judy March 20, 08 12:45 PM
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  1. So the news here is that Mark Penn sent out a memo?

    Why bother reporting on it? Just because this is a Globe blog doesn't mean you get to avoid soliciting another opinion or two. Otherwise you're merely Penn's megaphone.

    Posted by Andrew March 20, 08 12:45 PM
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  1. Only the Democrats, with help from an utterly amoral and irresponsible press, could manage to squander the political capital they've been given this year. At this critical point in America's history -- with a failed foreign policy, a global reputation in tatters, an economy in crisis, and an incumbent President (and GOP) lacking the ability to reasonably accept blame -- we are on the verge of accepting another 4 years of GOP rule.

    Hillary won't defeat McCain in November. She plays the same tired political game that Republicans play, only much less effectively. She's too divisive to unite the Dem's, and her substantial baggage will trip her up come next Fall. Watch and see if you disagree.

    Posted by geraldmc March 20, 08 12:52 PM
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  1. It's pitiful that Hillery, Barrak, and McCain are the best that the two major parties can place in the running for president. Two are already proven political prostitutes and the third wants to, at a minimum, turn us into a eunich (sp) socialist state.

    Hopefully, in the future there will be an independent party representitive so the true will of the people will be represented and given a chance to vote for what they believe in and not be subject to the will of power politicians.

    Posted by Joe Jenkins March 20, 08 12:52 PM
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  1. Then Clinton should hire Belichump as campaign manager, Saying it does not make it so.

    Posted by HelloFromNy March 20, 08 12:54 PM
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  1. Of course the Clinton campaign would. Any rival campaign would. I was hoping that your would do a bit of analysis on the validity/realisticness of Mark Penn's "campaign message" rather than simply printing whatever he wrote. That's pretty lame journalism.

    Posted by AllyLandy March 20, 08 12:54 PM
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  1. Obama's team could have written this same memo a couple weeks ago. I am an independant and I have voted for Bush the last two elections. If Obama is on the Democratic ticket he has my vote. If it's Hillary, I will vote for McCain. I have spoken to many others that feel the same way.

    Posted by Tom Malone March 20, 08 12:54 PM
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  1. Yes. No polls have come out measuring the greatest speech of the last four decades.

    Posted by nico March 20, 08 12:55 PM
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  1. Hopefully being a great speech writer can translate to fixing up our economy and foreign affairs...

    The extent to which people can be swayed by rhetoric and charisma is terrifying. We'll see when the newest polls emerge.

    Posted by ES March 20, 08 12:55 PM
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  1. When will Hillary's campaign stop twisting every single moment to its advantage while appearing more disingenuous each time round? Yesterday, her slimy appeal in Michigan, a state she dismissed as unimportant less than two months ago. The day before, her disconnect on Barack's speech in Philadelphia. Today, pouncing on a moment in the polls to find a trend.

    Where has the issues gal gone?

    Does she want to keep playing the negatives game until everyone sinks down to her level and folks start scaping up the residue from her involvment in strange dealings during Bill's terms or until this gets out in the open:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8aopATYyw

    Posted by Laurence Matson March 20, 08 12:58 PM
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  1. I have always voted as a Democrat all my life but I will not vote for Clinton. No matter what the press or the polls say, I will not be voting for McCain either.

    Posted by Adrienne Poremba March 20, 08 12:58 PM
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  1. Obama is not really falling, it is more a pause, to consider, reconsider, judge. Hillary Clinton's campaign has gone through that phase already. At the end of the day, when the dust is settled, the issues raised by this whole Reverend Wright episode may be the demise of Obama's campaign, but this is in no way the point at which Hillary Clinton's hope for presidency is elevated.

    In fact, she will be facing a dejected and angry Obama electorate that will not vote for her in any scenario because she will be seen as the instigator of his downfall, rightly or wrongly.

    The Democratic party, and I am a Democrat, again unable to win the presidency . . .

    Posted by SharinFoo March 20, 08 12:58 PM
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  1. The is reprehensible. I understand that politics at this level can lead to ruthless, opportunistic behavior. But for a the Clinton campaign to try to gain advantage from the Jeremiah Wright flap in an active way is shameful. If anything, they should be attempt to defuse this issue (since a rational treatment of race in America iIf is is perceived by blacks liberals that the Clinton campaign acitively took advantage of this issue, it may cost them (should Hillary be the candidate) in November. I am a lifelong democrat, but I doubt that I would vote for her in the general election if she helped use race as a bludgeon against Obama.

    Posted by Peter Sher March 20, 08 12:58 PM
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  1. Senator Clinton is an outstanding senator from Illinois who has been running an honorable campaign focusing on issues rather than launching personal attacks on her opponents. Barack Obama is a carpet bagger who did not run for Senate from his home state of Illinois where he started his grassroots movement. Instead, he decided to run from New York and paint himself as a yankee fan. His entire campaign is based on the accomplishments of his spouse Michelle Obama. He would not even be in picture if Michelle Obama were not a former president of the United States. Shame on you Senator Obama! I hope you continue to fall.

    Posted by Singh T. Junior March 20, 08 01:01 PM
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  1. Geez, he's responsbile for his minister's comments. Is she responsible for NAFTA AND GATT cuz she was married to that lying old bastard Bill

    Posted by Diane Chrisco March 20, 08 01:02 PM
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  1. To bad its too late Hillary, see ya

    Posted by Kent duffy March 20, 08 01:02 PM
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  1. No he is not falling.
    He is sitting on the lap of vitriolic rev. Wright therefore he cannot be right.

    Posted by DAVID SHARMA March 20, 08 01:03 PM
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  1. It ain't over yet. Obama will get through this crisis and ultimately be our President.

    Posted by McClum March 20, 08 01:03 PM
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  1. Geez, he's responsbile for his minister's comments. Is she responsible for NAFTA AND GATT cuz she was married to that lying old bastard Bill

    Posted by Diane Chrisco March 20, 08 01:04 PM
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  1. Though I like both Clinton and Obama. Lets be honest. Talk about race is okay until it makes whites uncomfortable, particularly when whites feel that they are being "blamed" or not seen in a favorable light. Any talk about race where this happens gets stiffled. As far as the Reverends comments, does inflamatory actually mean false. People raise questions all the time regarding Americas foreign policy, particularly the hubris of this current adminstration. Blacks always have to address race, why don't white leadership address race. When there is a black candidate for any office in the news the "expert blacks" are brought out to hear their views, why don't you seek the views of blacks on other topics when there is a story regarding a white candidate or any other issue.

    Posted by gari thomas March 20, 08 01:04 PM
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  1. Polls cited are premature. They only mirror the uncertainty stemming from concerns over Rev Wright before Barack Obama elevated the discussion.

    Barack Obama has provided context to a discussion which is germane to the long term well being of the nation and the citizens will respond with renewed support.

    The Clinton campaign is blinded by unfettered ambition that divisive. Such behavior is not even remotely what America needs in the White House.

    I am a white woman over 50. According to the Clinton campaign, I should support Hillary. The truth is that if she is selected to be the nominee, all I know for sure is that I will not be able to vote for her.

    Posted by md March 20, 08 01:04 PM
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  1. Obama offered nothing but platitudes and double speak. At the end of the day, Wright's rantings are wrong and dangerous. There is not room for Obama to talk about "...placing them in a larger context of America's racial history and challenges....".

    Period.

    Posted by John March 20, 08 01:05 PM
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  1. I do believe that Mr. Obama displays the ability to speak to anyone, within reason. No, he might never be able to convince the uneducated, prejudice, mean-spirited Limbaugh fans who spew hate and will vote for Mccain. And, mayve not a fierce feminist who will vote only for a woman because she is a woman. But any individual who hears him knows Obama is thoughtful, intelligent, prudent, discerning man. That he was able to move grown men and women to tears with his last speech...that's one to consider. Yes, we need a unifier, but more than anything we need a President that can inspire the new generation to take action in a world that needs to discover that we are more alike than we are different.

    Posted by zunzun March 20, 08 01:05 PM
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  1. I do believe that Mr. Obama displays the ability to speak to anyone, within reason. No, he might never be able to convince the uneducated, prejudice, mean-spirited Limbaugh fans who spew hate and will vote for Mccain. And, mayve not a fierce feminist who will vote only for a woman because she is a woman. But any individual who hears him knows Obama is thoughtful, intelligent, prudent, discerning man. That he was able to move grown men and women to tears with his last speech...that's one to consider. Yes, we need a unifier, but more than anything we need a President that can inspire the new generation to take action in a world that needs to discover that we are more alike than we are different.

    Posted by zunzun March 20, 08 01:05 PM
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  1. this isn't news. It's a talking point from a corrupt clinton campaign

    Posted by Mark March 20, 08 01:06 PM
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  1. I hope Billary get' s it....McCain will crush her in the election

    Posted by John N March 20, 08 01:07 PM
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  1. I have told friends and family that if Barack Obama does not get the nomination I would still vote for Clinton because I don't want another Republican in the White House. However, if her campaign uses this ridiculous, media-led, imbalanced frenzy to show that she should be president she wil NOT get my vote. I will suck up another 4 years of Republican garbage than be led by a cheating, manipulative, whiner. McCain is too old to run again and since I've been able to make it this far, I think I can handle another 4 years.

    Posted by MrsJones March 20, 08 01:07 PM
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  1. Can someone find the controversial remarks by Hilary's Pastor???? Also Google Sean Hannity & Hal Turner and check out the Conspiracy

    http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050620/blumenthal

    Posted by Emmanuel March 20, 08 01:08 PM
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  1. Q. You don't suppose that the Clinton co-presidency is involved in fanning the racial fires in this campiagn, do you?
    A. It depends on what the definition of IS is, I guess.

    Posted by John DePinto March 20, 08 01:08 PM
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  1. Is this woman unable to speka about her ideas on isssues like Mr. Obama. all she does in negative campaigning because hse is trailing. i hope the voters are smarter than to pay any attention to her distraction and fearmongering.`

    Posted by Jason March 20, 08 01:09 PM
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  1. yes, because Obama was not only attacking by united republican party but also by democratic party fellow Hillary Clinton. Talking about divisive and ruining the Nov election chance for Democrats, HRC's camp had done it all. Unfortunately, the lead was not given to her, but to John McCain. Mark Penn forgot about to mention that part in his memo.

    Posted by greatlurker March 20, 08 01:09 PM
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  1. Hillary should just give up now. She cant deliver a decent speech, and she certainly cant win the "Minority" vote in states that actually matter. Hillary has far too many connections with large businesses and will ultimatley hold their best interests at heart. Look where the money comes from. Hillary and McCain get theirs from corporate sponsors. Obama got most of his from individuals.

    Posted by Tyler March 20, 08 01:09 PM
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  1. Republican... let the states decide.
    Democrat... let the rules be set at the national level and filter down to the states.
    -those who do not learn from their history are doomed to repeat it!

    Posted by David March 20, 08 01:09 PM
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  1. Why of course the Clinton's would claim Obama is falling. Just another one of their "Myth's" that follow their campaign strategy.......Their true colors are coming out loud and clear!!!!

    Posted by Kim Strohacker March 20, 08 01:09 PM
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  1. I fear that any momentum that the Dem's had is gone and I don't see the party coming together. The politics between Obama and Clinton have basically fractured the party into 2. Clinton Supporter won't back Obama and vice versa. I think the race has become to personal and has really pitted Dem against Dem as opposed to Dem against Republican. I am not Republican but I respect how they come together when its time. This will be the first time I vote Republican and not because I totally agree with their policies but because they are showing leadership and strength and don't appear to be as divided. It doesn't matter if Clinton wins or Obama neither has a chance in the General Election because of the divisions within the party. This was the Dems best chance to win and they choked!!!

    Posted by someguy March 20, 08 01:10 PM
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  1. When's the last time Penn got something right in this election?

    Posted by yiannis March 20, 08 01:10 PM
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  1. Come ON. This campaign is getting to be more and more about press releases designed to put one person (mostly Obama) on the defensive. Karl Rove once made a comment to the effect of "If you're on the defensive, you're losing." I think the press needs to stop playing into the political games being played and take the lead: make them talk about actual ISSUES.

    Posted by Jodi Vander Molen March 20, 08 01:11 PM
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  1. Obama is our Savior. No more so called elections where racists can vote and Obama doesnt win. Make Michelle proud, install Obama as President now. Obama & Rev. Wright are Right!, God D*** america. Obama will apologize to our Muslim brothers for an arrogant america!

    Posted by Obamamania March 20, 08 01:11 PM
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  1. I don't put much stake in polls, but I am worried about what Obama's church will mean in the general election if he becomes the Democratic nominee. I think Dems are naval gazing here in our primary season and we need to look at the bigger picture.

    Posted by JakH March 20, 08 01:13 PM
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  1. According to Hillary, she's a close second in delegates while Obama is next-to-last.

    Obama has it the bag. And it cannot be taken away...Or else Sharpton, Jackson and the rest of the race hucksters will turn Denver '08 into Chicago '68, only about 1 million times worse (with 24 hour cable, Internet).

    Posted by Ken March 20, 08 01:13 PM
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  1. I just hope it is not too late. One thing people don't understand is iObama is big unknown without years of establishement. He preaches change but with all his talks I never see a real action on change when he was a senator. If he is for change he should point out now what kind of changes he has done while having a power of being in politics for the last 10 years. Where are his measurable accomplishements? All I hear is talk.

    As to his pastor, he said he 100% disagreed. What did he do as a sign of disagreement? Just sit there and repeat in his mind "I don't agree with you?" Did he do anything? Did he try to stand up in front of his community and say "don't listen, these are not true?" Did he prevent his children from being brainwashed by the pastor in the church every Sunday?

    It is one thing to have an opinion with which others don't agree, it is another thing to stand up in front of a large crowd and preach about your opinion and make a brainwashing influence. And it is another thing to be an audience of all that and not do anything about it... His speech did not convince me that he does not share the same feelings about white America.

    I am a legal immigrant and I came to this country and work very hard starting from zero. If native Americans make more money, I say to myself "yes this is their country, I have to work hard to become part of them and it is a privilege to be here that I should earn. I don't see anything wrong with that. If I didn't like what I see here when I should just shut up and leave. I come from a corrupt country that was part of Soviet Union and what I see here is peanuts compared with what is going on on the other side....

    Hillary comes across as a b*h, so what. She is strong that's why. WH needs someone like her who can put everybody to work around her. People in WH have gotten fat and lazy and someone need to shake them up. If I were a president I would care more about my community, people who come from my country and I know my decisions would be biased wheather I know it or no. The same with Obama, his decisions would be biased to make things for blacks who feel as if they are missing their share of the big pie called America.

    Posted by kt, boston, ma March 20, 08 01:13 PM
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  1. Even though I wish Obama a chance to express himself, I know that the forces of ugliness will still try to inject their deep rooted, subtle hatred for a black candates chances to emerge into the Presidency.

    Obama should not have to waste time cleaning up the weak slurs against his creadibility. However, we must continue to escort the progressive voice of healthy change for this wonderful country in its original principle.

    There are many problems that need to be addressed in this country. Obama is a good stepping stone in that regard.

    Posted by Jeffrey March 20, 08 01:13 PM
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  1. Here we go again another racist remark to go along with the Idea that an African American can't win in America. How will this country ever get away from the problem of white rule if you can't face the truth about the history of wrong doing that have damage so many?. Just sit back and wait until he get into the White House, than you will have time to judge his abilities.

    Posted by Lin March 20, 08 01:13 PM
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  1. The Clinton campaign makes me sick. They are hate-mongering, power-hungry people who, quite frankly, demonstrate no caring for our country and the wounds it has suffered over the last ten years-- beginning with the circus of Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky, hunted and hounded by Ken Starr et al. Hillary, you have been tested and vetted, alright, as a true politician. I, for one, want someone fresher and cleaner, whose focus is redefining America's place in the world, and bringing her people in all their differences together for that purpose: Obama.

    Posted by Louise Fitzgerald March 20, 08 01:14 PM
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  1. These are the last ditch efforts of a failing candidate. This goes along with the Michigan and Florida primaries - Mrs. Clinton knew that these states were being penalized for holding their primaries early, but now that she is slipping, she is insisting that its Un-American not to have a re-vote. For someone who is a "steward of the economy", I don't understand why the insistence on spending more tax payers money on a re-vote. I find it confusing and disturbing that the Clinton camp would want to push a revote especially in Michigan, which has been hit so hard by economic hardships.

    Posted by Susan - California March 20, 08 01:14 PM
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  1. Que pasaria si nos damos cuenta que cometimos un error con Obama?

    Posted by Robert March 20, 08 01:15 PM
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  1. Hillary and Barack are both excellent candidates.

    Sure would like to see a Clinton-Obama or Obama-Clinton ticket. Continued bickering only benefits McCain right now.

    Posted by Rick March 20, 08 01:15 PM
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  1. Que pasaria si nos damos cuenta que cometimos un error con Obama?

    Posted by Robert March 20, 08 01:16 PM
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  1. meaning they are celebrating the fact that Obama is being victimised to for comments his pastor made.

    Posted by Raymond Micheals March 20, 08 01:16 PM
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  1. Hillary and Barack are both excellent candidates.

    Sure would like to see a Clinton-Obama or Obama-Clinton ticket. Continued bickering only benefits McCain right now.

    Posted by Rick March 20, 08 01:16 PM
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  1. Over the course of this primary, I have developed an intense almost visceral distaste for Hillary Clinton and her campaign. As a young voter, her victory over Obama will turn me off the entire political process. And it seems like I am not alone.

    Posted by erica March 20, 08 01:17 PM
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  1. Hillary, U wish to go back to white house. Just wish

    Posted by Abroad March 20, 08 01:17 PM
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  1. As a Democrate I am disenchanted with teh alck of leadership in selecting a nominee. Fo rthe aprty it woud have made sense for Sen. Clinton to withdraw after Sen Obama's string of 12 straight primaries. If the position was switched they Clinton folks woudl be calling for Sen Obama to drop out ASAP. But no it gets dragegd out and the fighters stay in hte ring and keep weakening each other. The mud sligging and dirty tricks from the Clinton campian have weaken the deomcratic candidate whom ever is ultimate the choice. I do not see folks coming togther if Sen Clinton wins.. I see a rift in the party. Given the past 8 years: war, economy, gas prices, health care.. etc. it was teh Dems chance to really come on strong. Frankly the leadership is as much of a problem as teh Republican leadership... althought I ws very excited when Speaker Polosi took over as speaker.... after a couple of months things went to hell in a hand basket.. fear kept ruling the day and the Dems could not overcome this.
    I thought Sen Obama's speach on race was the opening of a door that has beensealed with fear and prejudice for so long.... a beginnig of dialouge and healing process long, long overdue. It is shameful. It was wonderful in the way it addressed the personal, the anger and resentment, the racial divide, the US founding principles, references to Lincoln and the formation and holding togther a/the Union... it showed me in 'real time' how this man would respond to a hot poker situation and seek higher ground... offering a broad perspective and context and yes, hope. Then the fear mongers jump in and try to kill the whole thing. We are in a kind of free-for -all boat arguing as we get closer to the falls CLinto may win the arguemnt but we are all going over. It may take a NY Giant's type passing play to seal this for Sen. Obama. - Jay


    Posted by Jay Marciano March 20, 08 01:17 PM
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  1. Of course they would say that, wouldn't they ? Hillary was lying when she said that she didn't watch the speech. She did. She knew the speech was going to be make or break kind. what else do you think that she was doing at that time ? This is one woman who is obsessed with her political hunger, as much as Heather Mill was hungry for Mecca's money and any excuse that she was far too busy doing something else when her only opponent at this moment was giving a landmark speech is just too feeble for some. So she heard it alright, we know. Having heard the speech, she must have known instinctively that this was one of a kind speech, which kinda explain why she looked so pale when she said that she didn't watch it. She knew then as she must know now that this is the kind of speech that would make Obama president in a fair play society. Knowing the brilliance of the speech, Hillary and her people could do only two things. A. contratulate him and concede B. attack it as they have never done it before. We are seeking the B scenario.

    Posted by Obamaforpresident March 20, 08 01:17 PM
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  1. Mark Penn is a slimeball. Sorry but it has to be said. The only way Clinton has been able to get back in this contest is by smears and lies.

    I am not an American so won't have a vote but I sincerely hope Hilary Clinton never becomes president. I will be rooting for McCain if she is given the nomination - especially if she doesn't have the most delegates and only gets through because of spineless super delegates who spend too much time looking at the opinion polls.

    Posted by jegmeister March 20, 08 01:19 PM
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  1. Of course they would say that, wouldn't they ? Hillary was lying when she said that she didn't watch the speech. She did. She knew the speech was going to be make or break kind. what else do you think that she was doing at that time ? This is one woman who is obsessed with her political hunger, as much as Heather Mill was hungry for Mecca's money and any excuse that she was far too busy doing something else when her only opponent at this moment was giving a landmark speech is just too feeble for some. So she heard it alright, we know. Having heard the speech, she must have known instinctively that this was one of a kind speech, which kinda explain why she looked so pale when she said that she didn't watch it. She knew then as she must know now that this is the kind of speech that would make Obama president in a fair play society. Knowing the brilliance of the speech, Hillary and her people could do only two things. A. contratulate him and concede B. attack it as they have never done it before. We are seeing the B scenario.

    Posted by Obamaforpresident March 20, 08 01:20 PM
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  1. Republican = State government decides.
    Democrat = Federal government decides.
    Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

    Posted by 1Kings316 March 20, 08 01:21 PM
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  1. thats strange, Clinton WAS winning, not Obama, Obama then starts winning and is now in front of Clinton , if you ask me, i think it's Clinton whos falling

    Posted by somwonw March 20, 08 01:23 PM
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  1. Some will realize that all kinds of questionable junk comes regularly from pulpits. What percentage of people who regularly expose themselves to this drivel really pay much attention to what's said?

    In my experience, Presidents who wear their religion on their sleeve are the Presidents who have been the worst failures.

    The United States has a chance at a leader who can energize people to move ahead. I hope we don't blow it again by ignoring tough issues and focusing on what's comfortable again.

    Posted by Holm Etienne March 20, 08 01:24 PM
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  1. You main media are so darn biased. Obama ducked the issues linking him to inflammatory comments of his close associates (Wright) and shady deals (with his close real estate friend), and yet main media failed AGAIN AND AGAIN to press for answers, choosing instead to listen to his so-called "eloquent words". He failed to answer the questions on why it took him so long to "denounce" his pastor, ONLY WHEN the pastor's sermons were exposed. He failed to admit the mistake and conflicts of interests in the real estate ONLY WHEN people press for answers.

    In each case, his only answers is, let's move on. NO, THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

    Posted by tiddle March 20, 08 01:26 PM
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  1. The Clinton planned all this with ABC and are now enjoying the impact of the politics of fear and extreme racial divide and fear of Black people. While, let this play out and let her win and we shall see the lasting impact of this on the Democratic party. I will be larger than any person would have ever imagine.
    Clinton is part of the class of america that have shown repeated assault and wicketness to black people.
    I think for the first time in my life that the can be some ghood on the other side. That is maybe the republican party is not that bad at all.

    Posted by DG March 20, 08 01:26 PM
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  1. IT WOULD BE CRIMINAL TO LOSE SUCH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ONCE AND FOR ALL ELIMINATE THE SMELL IN THE OVAL OFFICE PERMEATED BY OLD LINE WHITE POLITICOS WHO FOR TOO LONG HAVE BEEN DECEIVING AND LIEING TO ALL AMERICANS.THIS MAY BE OUR LAST CHANCE TO SAVE THE USA FROM WORLD WIDE DISLIKE AND EVEN HATRED OF OUR ACTIONS.

    LET'S NOT LOSE THIS OPPORTUNITY JUST BECAUSE OF THE SERMON OF ONE AFRICAN AMERICAN. OF COURSE THE WHITE RIGHT TALK SHOW HOSTS ARE FIGHTING FOR THEIR LIVES WHICH RELISH IN HATE AND ANGER! WHAT HAVE THEY DONE FOR US LATELY?

    Posted by richard s lennie March 20, 08 01:27 PM
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  1. The Clinton planned all this with ABC and are now enjoying the impact of the politics of fear and extreme racial divide and fear of Black people. While, let this play out and let her win and we shall see the lasting impact of this on the Democratic party. I will be larger than any person would have ever imagine.
    Clinton is part of the class of america that have shown repeated assault and wicketness to black people.
    I think for the first time in my life that the can be some ghood on the other side. That is maybe the republican party is not that bad at all.

    Posted by DG March 20, 08 01:27 PM
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  1. Having Hillary Clinton as our President will be a devestation and a travesty. In the Bible is shows that God suffers not a woman to teach or have any authority over men which is found in Proverbs. Furthermore, she doesn't have any experience but the experience such that her husband, Bill Clinton, had who lied under oath about his affair with Monica Lewinsky. I don't want any of them to be presiding over me. Barack Obama is change. He is trying to bring black and whites together in this highly prejudice country were black people are angry and white people are evil. He will, also, bring a better international unity compared to any other canididates running for office

    Posted by S Shorter March 20, 08 01:29 PM
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  1. The Zogby Poll just out has Obama with a 53%-46% lead among democratic voters, and he leads in EVERY category needed for the nomination. His leads can't even be approached, much less surpassed. The WINNER has to get the nomination, not the LOSER, as they will say it is because of his race, and to appease the Clintons. That would cause all out warfare and destroy the party. Obama will win at least six of the last ten primaries to add to his totals. It's all over for Clinton.

    Posted by Charles Gates March 20, 08 01:32 PM
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  1. I am white, 84 years old, survived the Drepression and combat during WWII, served in an appallingly segregated army during that war as did Obama's former pastor. Like your op ed writer Roger Cohen, I view Obama's run as inspirational and long due. I
    have read Obama's books. I have been an activist Democrat since FDR, but if the Clintons use their play on race to convince blue collar whites, suburban women and super delegates that she should be the nominee, I will become an Independent and I will not vote for a Clinton return to the White House.

    Posted by Joseph S. Braunhut March 20, 08 01:35 PM
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  1. How has he words of Reverend Wright become the words of Seantor Obama? Who is responsible for finding and posting this outrageous clip of the reverend Wright so that it becomes the one single news item that Sen. Obama has to defend? I have my suspicion of the responsible culprits.

    If Senator Obama has the lead in popular votes and the lead in delegates, Senator Obama should be the DNC nominee.

    If,given all the above, the nomination goes to Senator Clinton, I and other blacks should abandon the democratic party, abstain from voting or vote enmass for the republican candidate. This is where I am. This is where my family of eight is.

    Senator Clinton promised not to endulge in dirty politics. This is not what I am witnessing. The Clinton's campaign is too mum about the development of this episode without having had something to do with it. That "cheshire cat grin" and the "lil ole me" look doesn't fool anyone. I don't trust Hillary or Bill.

    Posted by g. sulmers March 20, 08 01:35 PM
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  1. Obama's speech on race relations in America and striving for a more perfect Union is one of the great speeches of our time! It ranks way up there with the best. It's laughable that Hillary tries to demean the importance of Obama's speeches. Isn't that how leaders lead? I chose vision and wisdom over cleaver manipulation any day. Hillary's non-verbal signs frequently show that she is not telling the truth--watch how her eyelids come down slowly as she turns her view in a different direction. I agree with Larry David's column on the Huffington Post about the 3 a.m. ad--I don't want this woman any where near a phone. Hillary aside, we all would do well to seize this rare opportunity to elect a potentially great President like Barack Obama. Thank God he was willing to come forward and offer his services to us!

    Posted by David March 20, 08 01:35 PM
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  1. The fallout caused by the inflammatory and controversial statement by Obama's
    former pastor the Rev. Jeremiah Wright is beginning to surface. Recent national
    survey conducted last March 14-18 among 1,209 Democratic and Democratic
    leaning voters gave Clinton, a 49% to 42% edge over Obama. The poll has an
    error margin of 3% point. Vote smartly!

    Posted by Fred March 20, 08 01:36 PM
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  1. Way to go Hillary, If you win this one we will have 20 years of two families bouncing us back and forth, who needs new ideas. Your doiing the right thing, let the rest of the world take a stab at being the world leaders, the inovative thinkers, we can be Cuba part two.

    Posted by Mary March 20, 08 01:37 PM
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  1. Obama's refusal to sever his relationship with the extremist Rev. Wright is proof of two things:

    1. Obama places personal and community loyalty over common sense and national loyalty - which is at direct odds with the requirments of the presidency.

    2. The racial divide in this country will never be bridged until the Left in general and Black leaders specifically - willingly give up the use of race baiting and race fear-mongering as a tool of political expediency.

    Posted by Chris Parker March 20, 08 01:38 PM
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  1. Ms. Clinton has not been vetted yet by the Repubicans. They've been saving it for the national election. If she wins the domination, they have a lot more dirty laundry than Obama could possible have, given her claim of "35 years of experience". I will vote Republican. if Ms. Clinton wins the domination. Like me, there will many others who either won't vote or will vote Republican. Why? Because we have already been exposed of enough controveries about her and her husband and are not willing to deal wth 8 more years of that. New blood and less divisiveness is what we, Obama, supporters want.

    From a Hispanic American, Republican converted to an Obama Democrat who would go vote for McCain if Ms. Clinton is the democratic nominee.

    Posted by Silvia March 20, 08 01:45 PM
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  1. While Cinton and Obama tear each other up, the corrupt establishment's favorite pick, John McCain remains unscrutinized.

    McCain bill: (s.1033)

    SEC. 1004. BINATIONAL PUBLIC HEALTH INFRASTRUCTURE AND HEALTH INSURANCE. McCain wants open borders then wants us to pay for illegals' health insurance.

    SEC. 133 IMPROVING THE SECURITY OF MEXICO'S SOUTHERN BORDER, the border Mexico shares with Guatamala and Belize, the legislation Lou Dobbs complaines about.

    http://opensourceactivist.org/content/legislation/S1033/text.php#sec1004

    McCain has voted repeatedly to increase the number of H1B visas, which allow employers to import highly skilled workers, when there is a shortage of those jobs here. This allows firms to lay off American workers, reclassify their jobs and import foreigners who will work for less.

    If we had a constitutionally limited federal government as Ron Paul proposes, we wouldn't have to worry about any of this.

    Posted by codetoad March 20, 08 01:52 PM
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  1. I dislike Hillary. I believe she is a liar and will do and say whatever to get into the White House again.

    Posted by Stephen March 20, 08 01:53 PM
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  1. All that is Clinton, Penn, SPIN! They are defeated and they know it. EVERYBODY knows it! If the qualities for nomination are the a, b, and c that he listed, then Clinton has completely failed already! He better think up something better than that! Remember, elections are held to determine delegates for each candidate. Obama has a 169 delegate lead, with 7+ more to be added from Texas. He will win at least five, and probably six, of the remaining ten primaries. Obama has already won the nomination. It's all over. If they really thought Obama was falling, they wouldn't have to ARGUE about it. He's leading in the Zogby poll 53%-46% among democratic voters also! Losers argue, winners state FACTS!

    Posted by Charles Gates March 20, 08 01:53 PM
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  1. While Obama and Clinton get the bad MSM, McCain, the corrupt establishment's favorite, remains unscrutinized.

    McCain bill: (s.1033)

    SEC. 1004. BINATIONAL PUBLIC HEALTH INFRASTRUCTURE AND HEALTH INSURANCE. McCain wants open borders then wants us to pay for illegals' health insurance.

    SEC. 133 IMPROVING THE SECURITY OF MEXICO'S SOUTHERN BORDER, the border Mexico shares with Guatamala and Belize, the legislation Lou Dobbs complaines about.

    http://opensourceactivist.org/content/legislation/S1033/text.php#sec1004

    McCain has voted repeatedly to increase the number of H1B visas, which allow employers to import highly skilled workers, when there is a shortage of those jobs here. This allows firms to lay off American workers, reclassify their jobs and import foreigners who will work for less.

    If we had a constitutionally limited federal government as Ron Paul proposes, we wouldn't have to worry about any of this.

    Posted by codetoad March 20, 08 01:54 PM
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  1. Great... The Clinton campaign can be proud that after they have lost the nomination, they stayed in the race and bloodied up a fellow democrat before the general election. Congrats for being a selfish egomaniac!

    Posted by Eric March 20, 08 02:00 PM
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  1. I was a Obama supporter however I can't stand Hillary so John McCain will probably get my vote.

    Posted by Mike March 20, 08 02:03 PM
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  1. this is called brainwashing

    Posted by RJG March 20, 08 02:03 PM
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  1. In a country of 300 million, these are the best leaders?

    There is something desperately wrong with democracy in America.

    Posted by theantibush March 20, 08 02:06 PM
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  1. With an eloquent speech, Obama, once again, has managed to fool the media and his supporters.

    There is a pattern in his campaign of hiding important information until he gets caught red handed, i.e., Rezko and now Wright. Another pattern is that he typically accuses of other people being racists when he is criticized. This big scandal with Wright is so big that he now says that most american are racists if we denounce Wright "to denounce Wright is to denounce the Blacks...".

    Obama avoids answering the real questions about his character and poor judgment. If Obama's mentor of 20 years is of a different color than black and makes these statements then we would have the same questions: why did he not do anything about it? why did he keep this relationship? and worse yet, why does he help this pastor to continue to perpetuate his teaching to the next generation as demonstrated with Obama taking his children to this church?

    Obama now throws the Blacks under the bus by pitching the race card Blacks vs. the rest of America to avoid answering the real questions. Perhaps, his actions are answers enough.

    Posted by vote4thebest March 20, 08 02:16 PM
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  1. This is a good analogy...a barrel that is EMPTY sounds more distinctive, but a barrel that is FULL you can't hear almost nothing...Guess what OBAMA is?
    It's the E M P T Y stupid!

    Posted by jery March 20, 08 02:21 PM
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  1. How can Americans embrace Obama. Is it just me or this country lost sanity. This country has tunnel vision that it does not see the world around them with focused eye. Perhaps that's why we are losing our world leadership. Obama is one dimensional candidate, for blacks only. He has all his backers but only well known person that was defending him yesterday was Rev. Sharpton. Where is Kennedy family? where is Oprah? where is John Kerry? I suppose they will show up when the storm is gone and Obama is still holding the fort. Lets get rid of this guy who is no more than Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. He lacks maturity and integrity to move this country to the right direction. Let Mr. & Mrs Obama serve his black community to do the right thing and participate positively in our society.

    Posted by Dave March 20, 08 02:22 PM
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  1. show me the polls in 3 months and then I might consider this.

    She is too poll driven

    Posted by Nathan March 20, 08 02:26 PM
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  1. I always suspected Obama was a mess and we would be better off with the mess we knew about already. I am neither impressed nor inspired by Sen. Obama. I read his book and cannot see what the hype is all about. Somehow I am on several of his e mail lists and the tone has gone from smugness to defensiveness and next is desperation. You all can have him. Talk to me in a year or two when your voter's remorse is in full swing. Obama turn the country around? Make me laugh-and cry.

    Posted by henriette March 20, 08 02:26 PM
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  1. That's Gallup, Fred. Barack still leads in every other major national poll. Please do vote smartly.

    Posted by sooz March 20, 08 02:27 PM
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  1. Didn't Hillary build a career foundation (and a marriage) to the tune of "Stand by Your Man"? Why is it so wrong for Obama to see the good in this man Rev. Jeremiah Wright? It is not Christian to forgive?
    I share the sentiments of many above. I wouldn't be able to vote for Clinton eventhough I am a Democrat for life. All the many things we overlooked about Bill Clinton so as to get a Democrat in the White House now come back in a new light. Does no one remember all the many things we forgave him for?
    And I'm sick that those who would risk to lead us must always be harrangued by "gottcha" politics. But- I take heart that so many people have been moved and inspired by Obama and his singing words.
    I have faith we will be wise in this and that Obama will be our next (and one of our greatest) president(s).

    Posted by Joaquin Morgan March 20, 08 02:31 PM
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  1. If you are truly an AMERICAN PATRIOT...vote McCain and Clinton OUT. They are both being bought by special interest groups, and barely even deny it.

    Please do everyone a favor and actually read what he has to say instead of being fed a summary by other people.

    Vote for America, Vote for yourselves!

    Posted by Nathan March 20, 08 02:33 PM
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  1. Hillary is to be despised. She is a meglomaniac globalist elite who will continue to sell our nation's sovreignty further down the river. What Obama's pastor said is certainly no worse than the feminist victim crap that Dem. Geraldine Ferraro came out with recently. Mark Penn is obviously a "Billary " supporter ! I will never vote for her despite my colossal disenchantment with the Republican Party. My vote goes to Obama or McCain....anything to prevent that narcissistically wounded chameleonesque shedevil from being seated as our next prez. The candidate of "experience" - humpf !!!

    Posted by Mike March 20, 08 02:40 PM
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  1. We now know the true colors of Obama. He must step out and leave tha stage for Hillary to organize the party and help Dems win.

    Posted by vijay March 20, 08 02:55 PM
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  1. One thing is omitted in this article.
    We cannot trust Hillary. She has many twists and turns in her history that have or should have taught us that.
    She has no experience running the country,...none of the candidates do. It's a non-point.
    Obama may be untested but I think he'll stand the test when he's elected.
    I think he can be trusted to do what he says he will and has integrity as well.
    That is missing from the "Hill-Pill", making it hard to swallow.

    Posted by Olddog March 20, 08 02:59 PM
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  1. I know proud Obama supporters like to think their candidate is infallible, but the reality is in the polls. McCain has a theoretical 10 point lead if it comes down to him and Obama, but is neck and neck with Hillary. The numbers show that Hillary is the stronger Democratic candidate, and the superdelgates are going to be swayed by numbers, not the crazy cult fans following Obama. Sorry guys, he's done.

    Posted by Cynthia L March 20, 08 03:13 PM
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  1. he did not pitch the race card. you know its funny when people get anger about something someone says its most likely out of hate for yourself or guilt and fear. white america has been hiding from the fact that it commited the worst crime in history .until white people in america can sit down without automaticly judging black people and hear them out about how bad slavery damaged and is damaging black and white people alike.we will always be hoping for better.its sad i hear more hate now on the news then ever and its coming for white america.it just goes to show you you will never understand somthing if you dont ask questions or talk about it without passing judgement.o yeah to all you holly rollers remeber we are all sinners. peace

    Posted by triedofbeinganangryniggerinyoureyes March 20, 08 03:14 PM
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  1. Even without Mr. Wright, Rezko and etc., I wouldn't vote for Obama, because all he does is talk. A lot of people started to see through Obama and woke up. I know there is a lot of die-hard Obama fans will vote for him no matter what...that's very sad for democracy.

    Hillary is the best choice in decades. Use your Brain not Emotion.

    Posted by joy March 20, 08 03:15 PM
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  1. Hillary is conducting an ethical campaign. It is Obama who is doing an injustice to the democratic process.
    Obama = 14 years of Rezko support = Rezko's fraud trial, wonder if Obama gave him $1million to hospital rebuilding campaign
    Obama = 20 years of Wright support = anti-American government racists
    Obama = 5 years of Kennedy support = Mary Jo Kopechne left to die by the road side
    Obama = poor judge or character, let alone, poor judgement.
    Do you think he can get it right the on day one...he's proven a number of times he can't get it right the first in a number of important instances.

    We know Hillary, we don't know the Obama who is always the back peddler. How do we know he wouldn't have voted for the war in Iraq? It is his word..which, according to his track record, can be judged, and he is flawed.

    Posted by susie March 20, 08 03:17 PM
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  1. Hillary is conducting an ethical campaign. It is Obama who is doing an injustice to the democratic process.
    Obama = 14 years of Rezko support = Rezko's fraud trial, wonder if Obama gave him $1million to hospital rebuilding campaign
    Obama = 20 years of Wright support = anti-American government racists
    Obama = 5 years of Kennedy support = Mary Jo Kopechne left to die by the road side
    Obama = poor judge or character, let alone, poor judgement.
    Do you think he can get it right the on day one...he's proven a number of times he can't get it right the first in a number of important instances.

    We know Hillary, we don't know the Obama who is always the back peddler. How do we know he wouldn't have voted for the war in Iraq? It is his word..which, according to his track record, can be judged, and he is flawed.

    Posted by susie March 20, 08 03:17 PM
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  1. The words of Jeremiah Wright could sink the Obama campaign - IF they'd been spoken by Barack Obama. But they weren't.

    Give this thing a few more days and people will be scouting the news for the next media story they can get indignant about. Nobody's talking about Ferraro now, and nobody will be talking about this come convention time.

    You can only take this "guilt by association" thing so far. At some point it has to fall in line as one of the flimsiest measures of a person I can think of.

    Posted by Steve D March 20, 08 03:17 PM
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  1. You can point out Obama's flaws all you want, but to pretend that Hillary Clinton hasn't told 1000 lies for every 1 Obama has told is delusional.

    Why do people lie? Don't know. At least Obama made it right. Hillary Clinton says anything and everything, she lies, constantly, unapologetically, like it's a bodily function.

    Posted by Steve March 20, 08 03:18 PM
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  1. The words of Jeremiah Wright could sink the Obama campaign - IF they'd been spoken by Barack Obama. But they weren't.

    Give this thing a few more days and people will be scouting the news for the next media story they can get indignant about. Nobody's talking about Ferraro now, and nobody will be talking about this come convention time.

    You can only take this "guilt by association" thing so far. At some point it has to fall in line as one of the flimsiest measures of a person I can think of.

    Posted by Steve March 20, 08 03:18 PM
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  1. It amazes how many of the Obama supporters on this blog are very immature, perhaps it is mostly due to their age or perhaps still they are dellusional. Why continue to tear down Hillary Clinton, dredging up old news from 15-20 years ago? Millions of tax payer dollars were spent by a special prosecutor to try and convict her, but he couldn't find anything on her despite the thousands of documents he researched for years. Stop blaming Hillary for Barack's failure to be honest with the populace. After all, this story about Rev. Wright and Rezko has been out there, but he has been the Media darling, and reporters have been afraid to touch the story for fear, they would be called Racists. I always tell young people that if they want to run for President they need to have a clean record. If not your past sins will come back to haunt you.

    Posted by Charly March 20, 08 03:20 PM
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  1. I have been witness to a crime perpetrated by, and on behalf of, MSNBC. Days after presidential hopeful Barack Obama’s speech on race, during which he challenged the media to not perpetuate hate and ignorance by showing Reverend Wright’s ranting ad nauseam, they did so anyway.

    Posted by Edward M. March 20, 08 03:50 PM
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  1. HILLARY CLINTON HAS WHAT IT TAKES TO ANSWER THE PHONE AT 3AM..THE RELEASED RECORDS SHOW THAT WHEN BILL WAS WITH MONICA,HILLARY WAS SITTING BY THE WHITE HOUSE PHONE,HER CELL PHONE,BILLS CELL PHONE,AND THE RED PHONE..

    HELLO...OH,IM SORRY BUT BILL ISN'T HERE...I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE IS,IF U SEE HIM TELL HIM TO PLEASE CALL HOME,THANKS...NO,THIS IS NOT THE OPERATOR ITS ME HIS WIFE,HILLARY!!!!

    OK,GOOD NIGHT MR.GORBACHEV,
    BYE BYE

    Posted by EARL OF ATL GA March 20, 08 03:53 PM
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  1. I'm a democrat and i predict that neither of our democratic candidate will win this Eletion of "08", many Americans won't like to have a Women or a Black Male inside the White House next year. I know this country will still be controlled by a Republican with more desire to continue WAR. We have to stop and think about what this country really needs. American is falling apart and without being intergrated will get worst as we all know. If Clinton wins in the primary ; Americans will then go for McCain. If Obama wins; many Americans will also go for McCain, Remember the KKK still exists and anything could happen. Therefore, We should stop looking at the color and gender of the candidate and start listining to the words and action the have made in the past. We can't allow another Republican controlling this country for 4 years again!

    Posted by Emilio P. March 20, 08 04:00 PM
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  1. Which democratic candidate will beat Mr. McCain?

    Mc Cain Vs clinton: Mc Cain wins because will get all of obama voter independents, old republicans, blacks, and young voters, elite professionals
    (Also she is not likeable, her bitter face will scare people, by then all her transparency will be black.)


    MC Cain Vs Obama: Obama wins because He will get 1/2 clinton democratics, old republicans, young voters, elite professional, blacks, minorities and all people who did not voted in primaries (also obama is young, not senile, charismatic and likeable

    Posted by alma ludivina March 20, 08 04:00 PM
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  1. My grandmother used to say that I should choose my friends carefully because people would (rightly) judge me based on my choice of friends. If you choose to associate with criminals, people will think you're a criminal and conversely, if you choose to associate with good people, people will assume you are a good person.

    If you choose to associate with a racist, you will be judged a racist.

    My Bostonian, white, Irish, Catholic grandmother told me to always treat people the same regardless of their race or religion; to judge people based on their actions and words, which they do control, rather than their color. She lived her words by befriending a Japanese woman, at a time when it was not popular to be Japanese in America, who was her life-long friend.

    Those of us who are not for Obama are not racists, we are pragmatists. Just look at his "friend" Deval Patrick to see what the fate of the country would be if he were elected; an inexperienced public official can do a significant amount of harm or do nothing, which in this world climate, is just as bad.

    Inspiration is very important, but I would rather have a competent president who isn't exceptionally "inspiring" (although I think Hillary is - good mother, smart woman, strong ideals, etc.) than the other way around.

    Thank you for reading my opinion, please feel free to post yours and please keep it clean. The posts that use cutesy nicknames and are vulgar just make me sad about the type of people who live in my city. I thought that people in Boston were more educated and evolved than in other places but the lack of manners and thought in some of the postings makes me wonder.

    My grandmother, who was and is my hero, also used to say, "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all."

    Posted by Mellen March 20, 08 04:03 PM
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  1. Let's look at Obama's pastor this way, shall we?

    Whop here is ready to disopwn the United States?

    Keep in mind that: the US has ethnically cleansed thousands if not millions of Native Americans.

    We were the last Western country to abolish slavery.

    We interned innocent Japanese Americans...at our height of bigotry, we wanted to kill as many "Japs" as possible.

    If anyone heremwas living during WWII...were you proud of the US? If not, were your grandparents oyal Americans in the 1900s? In the 1800s?

    Unless you're willign to condemn the US as racist imperialistn rouge state, don't you dare condemn Obama as a bigot for his relatiosn to his pastor

    Posted by Igor March 20, 08 04:24 PM
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  1. Hey "Tired Of Being",......."the worst crime in history was committed against the Jews during the second world war by the Nazis.
    What you're referring to was committed by and suffered by people long dead and gone. The fact that it happened sucks and nobody can ever change the fact that it did. Since then we've (WE meaning America and it's citizens) enacted laws against racial bigotry and tried to level the playing field with affirmative action.
    I believe that racism exists in our society and the entire world and cannot be completely stopped ever, by anyone. Some people hate others for no good reason and that's that. Look at Eastern Europe and the Armenian's situation.

    Hillary got out of prosecution years ago because she refused to provide documentation when requested by said prosecutor. She stonewalled her way out of a conviction and used her husbands powers of the presidency to suppress the release of further documents. Time will tell on that issue. When it's too late to nail them.


    Posted by Olddog March 20, 08 04:26 PM
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  1. It is an unconscionable act when one puts flames under a bush, and steps back as if one had nothing to do with it. Then one inconspicuously watches as the crowd of crows gather to pick the meat off the bones of victims but they could not find any victims. As a matter of fact they found victors that were not giving up any meat from any bones.

    Barak Obama and the members of his campaign are the victors. They handled this recent fiasco in a positive manner just as a proficient president of the USA for the american people.

    I just want to say thank you.

    Posted by Beldx March 20, 08 04:28 PM
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  1. I have read these blogs and they are no different from the ones on CNN and Fox. Each one has their agenda.

    The problem is that you all want to blame Hillary when things go wrong with Barack's campaign, or you blame Hillary supporters or the Republicans if they question him or demand that he provides more transparency.

    The bottom line is that each candidate is responsible for his own actions. But for Democrats to blame each other is to put a Republican in the WH. This is exactly the Republican strategy - and Karl Rove already talked about it. Get the two candidate's supporters fighting with each other and they win. How do you know it wasn't the Republican's who are feeding this to the press. Sean Hannity already said that he was talking about this a year ago. These tapes were sold by the Trinity Church. I think we need to vote for the candidate who has the experience to bring about solutions. Don't be so close minded.

    Posted by Dani March 20, 08 04:30 PM
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  1. As a citizen, It is absolutely gut-sickening to witness the sham of U.S. elections and politicing. The American people are force-fed a ludicrous and shamfully hypocritical 'democractic' election process. Anyone with an ounce of common-sense can see the highly dishonorable, unethical game-plan being played out to confuse, mislead, distract and utterly deceive the poor gullible m[asses]. Without a doubt, and as expected, just about ALL of this slime bathing has come from Obama's opponents (as compared to his corner) who would rather see someone other than this 'uppity, no-count, half-negro up-start' be elected President, - and all the (non-'traditional') impact it would have domestically and internationally - and they glaring show contemptuous disregard for what they often tout as the 'sanctity of democracy'.
    I have joined a great number of U.S. citizens who feel alienated from and dissolutioned by this garbage and don't put much faith or hope in the circus called U.S. elections. It's just too crooked and corrupt. And the main element of corruption are the big-money insiders that includes, believe it or not, the mainstream MEDIA.
    I urge Barack Obama's supporters and all people of good will to give the same-ol'-same-ol' traditionalists what they're pushing for. IF THE THE MOST HONORABLE MAN OF UNITY AND REHABILITATION OF THE MANY AILMENTS OF AMERICA IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM, THEN VOTE FOR McCAIN AND LET THE COUNTRY CONTINUE TO WORSEN - economically, socially, internationally and otherwise. BUT BY ALL MEANS, DO NOT VOTE FOR THE WITCH HILLARY OR HER 'I did'nt have sex with that woman', HUBBY. Because they are even worse than McCain, since he is expected to break all the rules to sink a knife in his opponent. But 'BILLARY' claims to want what's good for Democrats while at the same time stabbing the same knife into the BACK of a fellow Democrat who the Primary & Caucus voting public has clearly chosen over her.

    Senator Barack Hussein (yeah, I said it) OBAMA is THE best presidential candidate of the choices in this election and the type of individual that only comes around once in a life time.
    Whatever the outcome, we now know, convincingly, that the country did get the opportunity even if it blows it. And I'm grateful I lived to see that at least.

    Mr. J.

    Posted by Mr. J. March 20, 08 04:46 PM
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  1. You probably have heard about the hatefu remarks that Obama's pastor Jeremiah Wright has spewed. What astounds me, however, is how far people can go to try to bring a man down, when chances are those hypocrites are Americans who probably are in the same sitruation.

    How many of your great-grandparents were in the US? Did they isolate themselves from the US during Jackson's Tail of Tears? How about you Southerners? Have any relatives who weren't proud Americans during the Civil War? How many of you have American grandfathers alive during WWII? Did they distance themselves from the US during the inflamamtory anti-"Jap" rhetoric by the US? The one encouragiong to kill as many "Japs" as possible and comparing them to subhumans? How many Germans or Poles ahve grandparents who are friends with people who hated Jews and gypsies...perhaps even the grandparenst themselves?

    I'll bet that at least 80% of people here know someone, even a close family member or friend who hates some race culture. Jews...how many of your grandparents hate the Arabs? Arabs...how many of your grandparents hate the Jews? How many of you white guys have relatives who hate black people? How many black people have a friend who hates white guys? Asians? Mexicans? Homosexuals?

    How many of you go to church, to synagogue, to mosque? If your pastor, rabbi, or imam said something racist tomorrow, would you quit that church? Abandon the community and never see the friends you have socialized with for most of your life? Cut off all connections just like that?

    You DON'T isolate yourselves from bigots. You try to educate them. You prove them wrong. Youmake them see the light.It is perfectly legitimate to criticize barack Obama. It's perfectly fair game to question who he is and what he stands for. But let's not all be hypocrites by taking an ordinary incident,and blowing it way out of proportion like Clinton and the Republicans are doing.

    Posted by Igor March 20, 08 04:58 PM
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  1. HILLARY CLINTON HAS WHAT IT TAKES TO ANSWER THE PHONE AT 3AM..THE RELEASED RECORDS SHOW THAT WHEN BILL WAS WITH MONICA,HILLARY WAS SITTING BY THE WHITE HOUSE PHONE,HER CELL PHONE,BILLS CELL PHONE,AND THE RED PHONE..

    HELLO...OH,IM SORRY BUT BILL ISN'T HERE...I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE IS,IF U SEE HIM TELL HIM TO PLEASE CALL HOME,THANKS...NO,THIS IS NOT THE OPERATOR ITS ME HIS WIFE,HILLARY!!!!

    OK,GOOD NIGHT MR.GORBACHEV,
    BYE BYE

    Posted by EARL OF ATL GA March 20, 08 05:34 PM
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  1. Does it really matter what Obama thinks of the economy? the guy is a racist, the last thing America needs to heal is a another racist President. Hillary is the one, always was and always will be.

    Posted by Hillary All the Way March 20, 08 05:49 PM
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  1. Hey "Tired Of Being",......."the worst crime in history was committed against the Jews during the second world war by the Nazis.
    What you're referring to was committed by and suffered by people long dead and gone. The fact that it happened sucks and nobody can ever change the fact that it did. Since then we've (WE meaning America and it's citizens) enacted laws against racial bigotry and tried to level the playing field with affirmative action.
    I believe that racism exists in our society and the entire world and cannot be completely stopped ever, by anyone. Some people hate others for no good reason and that's that. Look at Eastern Europe and the Armenian's situation.

    Hillary got out of prosecution years ago because she refused to provide documentation when requested by said prosecutor. She stonewalled her way out of a conviction and used her husbands powers of the presidency to suppress the release of further documents. Time will tell on that issue. When it's too late to nail them.


    Posted by Olddog March 20, 08 07:21 PM
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  1. ATTENTION: WHITE PEOPLE!

    "Hate speech"??
    I can see some white folk have real messed up perceptions of pastor Wrights speech last week. He might have spoken on anger towards americas past, which is filled with oppression and an unequal demonstration of human rights, yes.
    However, he preached no hate and he preached no seperatism, what he preached was a message that centuries of black disempowerment has brought to a head in a single speech by a man who has most likely lived through poverty, segregation, and a HATE for him just because of his race.
    You might have heard his speech but you didnt listen.
    You might have heard an editted [media munipulated] version of his speech, that makes the "mistake" of cutting phrases short before they're completely illustrated.
    So, go watch the real thing and try putting yourself in his shoes and ask yourself why would I say these things? Or something like it?
    Ask yourself that if when you were young, you had to endure whites calling you a 'nigger', a word carrying a hate for you for your skin, without any repercussion would you feel like he feels?
    Ask yourself that if you lived in a country that had put you through such crap, would you be saying God bless America? Or would it be alittle closer to what Pastor Wright exclaimed?

    And whos to say that Obama cant quietly disagree with a preacher thats probably done alot more for him in his life during the 20 years than just preach the word. I know people who confide in the pastors, who seek their pastors out when they need spiritual guidance or just guidance period through the many turmoils we as humans go through in our lives. I dont agree with my parents on everything that has to do with race relations and they RAISED me. So WHY is this that serious really?? He can remain a member of that church without any indiscretion from me, I'm not worried about it, especially now that Pastor Wright is retired.
    I'm only 19 and I feel like I'm already more mature than majority of Americans when it comes to being culturally conscious.

    Posted by Jason Grier March 20, 08 08:10 PM
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  1. The problem for Democrats is that Hillary can't beat McCain. The Republicans have their fingers crossed that Hillary continues to weaken and divide her own party.

    Posted by Marion March 20, 08 09:25 PM
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  1. GOOD TO KNOW SOMEONE FROM CNN IS DOING THEIR JOB:


    March 21, 2008
    The full story behind Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s 9/11 sermon
    Posted: 10:09 AM ET
    As this whole sordid episode regarding the sermons of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright has played out over the last week, I wanted to understand what he ACTUALLY said in this speech. I’ve been saying all week on CNN that context is important, and I just wanted to know what the heck is going on.

    I have now actually listened to the sermon Rev. Wright gave after September 11 titled, “The Day of Jerusalem’s Fall.” It was delivered on Sept. 16, 2001.

    One of the most controversial statements in this sermon was when he mentioned “chickens coming home to roost.” He was actually quoting Edward Peck, former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq and deputy director of President Reagan’s terrorism task force, who was speaking on FOX News. That’s what he told the congregation.

    He was quoting Peck as saying that America’s foreign policy has put the nation in peril:

    “We took this country by terror away from the Sioux, the Apache, Arikara, the Comanche, the Arapaho, the Navajo. Terrorism.

    “We took Africans away from their country to build our way of ease and kept them enslaved and living in fear. Terrorism.

    “We bombed Grenada and killed innocent civilians, babies, non-military personnel.

    “We bombed the black civilian community of Panama with stealth bombers and killed unarmed teenage and toddlers, pregnant mothers and hard working fathers.

    “We bombed Qaddafi’s home, and killed his child. Blessed are they who bash your children’s head against the rock.

    “We bombed Iraq. We killed unarmed civilians trying to make a living. We bombed a plant in Sudan to pay back for the attack on our embassy, killed hundreds of hard working people, mothers and fathers who left home to go that day not knowing that they’d never get back home.

    “We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye.

    “Kids playing in the playground. Mothers picking up children after school. Civilians, not soldiers, people just trying to make it day by day.

    “We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff that we have done overseas is now brought right back into our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost.

    “Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred. And terrorism begets terrorism. A white ambassador said that y’all, not a black militant. Not a reverend who preaches about racism. An ambassador whose eyes are wide open and who is trying to get us to wake up and move away from this dangerous precipice upon which we are now poised. The ambassador said the people we have wounded don’t have the military capability we have. But they do have individuals who are willing to die and take thousands with them. And we need to come to grips with that.”

    He went on to describe seeing the photos of the aftermath of 9/11 because he was in Newark, N.J., when the planes struck. After turning on the TV and seeing the second plane slam into one of the twin towers, he spoke passionately about what if you never got a chance to say hello to your family again.

    “What is the state of your family?” he asked.

    And then he told his congregation that he loved them and asked the church to tell each other they loved themselves.

    His sermon thesis:

    1. This is a time for self-examination of ourselves and our families.

    2. This is a time for social transformation (then he went on to say they won’t put me on PBS or national cable for what I’m about to say. Talk about prophetic!)

    “We have got to change the way we have been doing things as a society,” he said.

    Wright then said we can’t stop messing over people and thinking they can’t touch us. He said we may need to declare war on racism, injustice, and greed, instead of war on other countries.

    “Maybe we need to declare war on AIDS. In five minutes the Congress found $40 billion to rebuild New York and the families that died in sudden death, do you think we can find the money to make medicine available for people who are dying a slow death? Maybe we need to declare war on the nation’s healthcare system that leaves the nation’s poor with no health coverage? Maybe we need to declare war on the mishandled educational system and provide quality education for everybody, every citizen, based on their ability to learn, not their ability to pay. This is a time for social transformation.”

    3. This is time to tell God thank you for all that he has provided and that he gave him and others another chance to do His will.

    By the way, nowhere in this sermon did he said “God damn America.” I’m not sure which sermon that came from.

    This doesn’t explain anything away, nor does it absolve Wright of using the N-word, but what it does do is add an accurate perspective to this conversation.

    The point that I have always made as a journalist is that our job is to seek the truth, and not the partial truth.

    I am also listening to the other sermons delivered by Rev. Wright that have been the subject of controversy.

    And let me be clear: Where I believe he was wrong and not justified in what he said based upon the facts, I will say so. But where the facts support his argument, that will also be said.

    So stay tuned.

    - Roland S. Martin, CNN Contributor

    Posted by Concerned Citizen March 21, 08 03:30 PM
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  1. Obama has lost my vote. He lied about knowing about Wrights hatred , then when it was apparent that no one was buying that. He finally confesses in his speech that he did know, he tries to justify Wrights and Obama own "past" racial hatred by blaming not only today's white Americans and past whites but his own grandmother.
    He did this same thing in his book.
    Since in his speech, the defense of of Wright's vitrolic ideals was far less eloquent than the rest of this speech, I'm inclined to believe Barack had most of the speech already wriiten prior to the expose of his church. He just slipped in some current events.
    I'm voting for Hillary in the general election or NO ONE! God Bless Obama's Grandma---I hope and pray she has other more loving grandchidren.

    Posted by Shae Senec March 22, 08 01:02 PM
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  1. As far as states go, at this current time:

    Barack cannot win Ohio, Pennsylvania, Missouri, or any state in the South (including Florida) in the GE. I just don't see how he wins these bellweather states since the Jeremiah Wright story has come up.

    Posted by sreustis March 22, 08 03:24 PM
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  1. Obama blew it and if his name is on the ticket Hillary supporters will change parties and vote for McCain.

    Voting for McCain 08! America still needs protecting and he is the man for the job!
    God Bless the troops who serve to protect "Americans" and let me stress this as being a single adjective "Americans".

    Posted by kathryn March 24, 08 07:52 PM
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  1. Voting for McCain 08!

    Posted by kathryn March 24, 08 07:55 PM
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