Clinton says she would have walked out on Wright
Hillary Clinton has largely stayed out of the fray over the inflammatory remarks made by Barack Obama's longtime pastor.
But in an interview today with reporters and editors at the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Clinton weighed in, telling them she would have left her church if her pastor had said the kinds of things about the US government and the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks that the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright did.
"He would not have been my pastor," Clinton said. "You don't choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend."
UPDATE: The Obama campaign just responded to Clinton's comments.
"After originally refusing to play politics with this issue, it's disappointing to see Hillary Clinton’s campaign sink to this low in a transparent effort to distract attention away from the story she made up about dodging sniper fire in Bosnia. The truth is, Barack Obama has already spoken out against his pastor’s offensive comments and addressed the issue of race in America with a deeply personal and uncommonly honest speech. The American people deserve better than tired political games that do nothing to solve the larger challenges facing this country," Obama spokesman Bill Burton said in a statement.
In his speech on race relations last week, Obama said while he was in the pews at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago for some controversial statements by Wright over two decades, he wasn't in attendance for the specific comments that caused the uproar. Obama also declared that while he rejected those remarks, he could no more disown Wright than he could the black community or his white grandmother and sought to explain the life history behind Wright's anger at the government.
In the interview today, Clinton compared Wright's remarks to those of talk show host Don Imus, who was fired last year for racially insensitive comments about the Rutgers women's basketball team.
"You know, I spoke out against Don Imus, saying that hate speech was unacceptable in any setting, and I believe that," she told the Pittsburgh newspaper. "I just think you have to speak out against that. You certainly have to do that, if not explicitly, then implicitly by getting up and moving."
I don't believe she would have walked out on Pastor Wright. She didn't walk out on her husband, the PRESIDENT, when he had his numerous open affairs. So why would someones words cause her to "walk out" and not an affair?
SHAME ON YOU HILLARY CLINTON! There was no need to bring this up as a matter of Political debate! be what happened in your judgement wrong, I know deep in my Heart that I can't be held responsible for what my Pastor may or may not say, There is a fine line you should Never Cross, but then would You ever stop in your own Personal Self Interest
Time would be better spent Hillary on reflection on YOUR LIES to the American Voters! Bosnia and your wild claims about your part in The Northern Ireland Peace Treaty are only the latest!
Hillary rather than the continued personal nasty attacks on Barack Obama when will you release your TAX RETURNS that is THE TRUTH we all want !,
Hillary is right!
Hindsight is 20/20 Hillary. If the Lewinsky scandal happened today, would you walk out on Bill?
Rev Wright land sell to Trinity at : revjeremiahawrightjr.com
Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright land transaction from his Jeremiah Wright Trust to Trinity Church.
Kenneth Lewis sells the land to Wright and then Wright sells it to the church with a
ten million dollar mortgage and 8.2% interest rate .
When did she speak out against the anti-semitic remarks of Billy Graham? Oh, it must have been when she and Bill would invite Rev. Graham to the White House!
Give it a break, Hillary. Concede now, for the good of the Democratic Party. Barack Obama is not your adversary. John McCain is. You and Bill have said nicer things about McCain than you have about Obama.
The only way you can win is if you turn enough superdelegates against Obama, the clear leader in delegates, popular vote, and number of states. That would really turn the party on it's head, assuring the Republicans another 4 more years. Is that what you want? Get out with a little of your dignity - and that of your husband - intact, before you completely ruin the Democrat's chances in an election that could have been easily won by the Democrats.
This impresses me as lowdown opportunism on Clinton's part. How would she know what she would do? Why is she saying this, how would she know what she would do, if she were black, living in Chicago, coming from that background, etc. It is so hypothetical that she has no business saying what she would do.
It’s amazing what happens when you hear the pastor’s quotes in the context they were delivered. See the posters comments below CNN’s Roland Martin articles:
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/21/the-full-story-behind-rev-jeremiah-wrights-911-sermon/
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/21/the-full-story-behind-wright%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cgod-damn-america%e2%80%9d-sermon/?s-%20?god-damn-america%20?-sermon/
I can’t say I subscribe to everything the pastor has said but I can say that it makes a heck of a difference when you hear them within the sermon.
This is a largely smear campaign. If they can’t nail the candidate, then they have to go after someone close to them to try to make the candidate look bad. Eventually, this story is going to come out – that Rev. Wright isn’t as bad as a few out of context clips make him out to be and most rational people will calm down.
So Hillary decides to take up Fox news talking points. Classy move. And the funny thing is that it's a move that both McCain and Huckabee refused. The Republican candidates responded in better faith than did Clinton.
Who is your Pastor Hillary? When is the last time he saw you and your faithful husband in church? People who are not Christian will always have a hard time understanding the relationship of paster and members. We believed our Pastors are called by God and only God has a right to judge who he calls. We love you Hillary but you are doing more to the Party for your personal goals, since you werre a child then you know. If you love the American people, go back to your day job Senator.
Who is your Pastor Hillary? When is the last time he saw you and your faithful husband in church? People who are not Christian will always have a hard time understanding the relationship of pastor and member. We believed our Pastors are called by God and only God has a right to judge who he calls.
We love you Hillary but you are doing more to the Party for your personal goals, since you were a child then you know. If you love the American people, go back to your day job Senator.
Making the comparison between Senator Clinton not having walked out on her husband due to his infidelity and Senator Obama not walking out from his church is RIDICULOUS. First, she was/is married to him. He's family. And as wrong and offensive as it was, what he did was not anti-American, not political in nature.
Grow up, people. Get smart. Be objective. Be rational.
Google Donnie McClurkin. Another example of a gospel singer/minister wanna be whom Senator Obama has refused to distance himself from. Read about McClurkin's hateful rhetoric/preaching. One step away from Farakhan, my friends. Who's next? The Jews? Catholics? According to Wright, Caucasions. That leaves Obama supporting African Americans and Muslims. Hmmm...
Suprise, suprise... on the same day of her 'misstatement' regarding Bosnia. Of course, no one should focus on that. It's only one of the last few shreds of her 'experience' that she's clinging to.
But instead, she'll do some damage control by bringing up Wright's name again. Expect to see her use this as a life preserver from here on out.
Blah Bla Blah you still wont be President Hilliary.The press is just sensationalizing the race for ratings and excitment.
She can be as Machevilian as she wants her only hope is to hope Obama loses the general so she can get a chance in 2012. Thats what i think she is still in the race for anyway. pure evil.
We can't trust Hillary Clinton when talks about things she DID do, so why should we believe her when she says what she WOULD do.
Second biggest liar in politics, just behind her husband.
I would not have chosen that church, I would not look to the pastor as my mentor, and I certainly would have walked out during that sermon, especially if it was my goal to one day serve this country. She's absolutely being honest this time.
I don't believe a thing she says. The only thing to believe is that every word and action is based 100% on a selfish desire to win. She should shut up - fat chance.
Who is she kidding? She didn't leave when the President diddled the intern. She didn't leave the President after his being impeached for lying to congress. But now...this pastor has gone too far?!?
I will personally be using the ABC method of voting this election Cycle.
Anyone But Clinton.
But but ... Obama is a Muslim, according to Clinton.
When you are lying, be consistent.
Remember when Bush was elected and then reelected on the basis of his claim to be a "compassionate conservative" and that God wanted him to be President. And many said he was someone they'd like to it down and have a beer with. A serious error was made in 2000 and 2004 by those choosing a leader on his personality...look what we got! Now a gifted orator with questionable qualifications has charmed many first-time voters (young and easily impressed), and caused them to overlook the experience and multi-qualifications of a woman who has the strength and integrity to redeem our country in the eyes of a world that now laughs at the incompetence of our leadership. Will we make the same mistake in 2008 and elect a man who's main qualification is his silver tongue? Again, those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. Phyllis March 25, 08 4:05pm
NEWSFLASH: Hillary Clinton is not black. So it's somewhat of an absurd hypothetical on her part anyway to conjecture what she would have done had she had been in his largely black congregation church. Does her hypothetical presume she would experience his sermon as a black woman? Or is the observer left to wonder how her experience as a white woman at this church might affect her decision to withdraw vis-a-vis that of a black man or woman?
what about the photo of bill and wright in white house?
Hillary Clinton is just the kind to walk out on Rev. Wright. She walked out on her friends that served time in jail for White Water. But she chose not to walk out on Bill Clinton - her husband and President of the USA who engaged in numerous extra-marital affairs while holding two highly regarded leadeship positions first as the Govenor of Arkansas and later as U.S. President. It is Clear to all of us now that Hillary Clinton stayed with your lying, cheating husband with her sights squarely set on the top job. All the while researching and plotting for any vacancy in the US Senate. She wasted no time in becoming a resident of the state of NY. Hillary Clinton is just as shrewd and stubborn as Bill Clinton. Will she walk out on the American people if she is elected president? Will she tell the truth? I shutter to think where our country is headed if she is elected president. Hillary Clinton will say and/or do anything to become commander-in-chief.
C'mon Hillary, If you really mean what you said you would have walked out of the marriage with Bill if not for your political ambitions
Shame on you Hillary! Why do you persist in trying to tear down Barack Obama when there is universal consensus that you can't possibly win the nomination? Are you so blinded by your lust for power that you would risk destroying your party and put the country through 4 more years of disaster an ruination under McCain?
This election is really about you and your delusional sense of entitlement to the presidency and the continuation of the Clintonian political franchise.
It's clearer now more than ever! Hillary has given up and decided to run again in 2012! She'll destroy Obama for 2008 (and 2012). She'll let McCain win in 2008 and hope he screws up for 2012.
The Clinton's will eat their own to win!
Hillary is white! How does her opinion matter?? I'm sure as a white person, it's easy to say that she would have walked out on Rev. Wright.
Yeah right Hillary, I'm sure you would have run with your head down no doubt!!!
Leave Wright...she should have left cheaten Slick Willy
So she would walk out of the Church ? Is that before or after she runs from the plane, ducking from Sniper Power ?
Yeah right Hillary, I'm sure you would have run with your head down no doubt!!!
The Clintons are cracking under the strain. That's obvious.
Yeah, just like she ducks under non-existent sniper fire. She's dishonest. That's all.
Once again the contradictions that Senator Clinton displays are quite alarming. She would walk out of a sermon and not walk out on a husband having sex in the White House? I guess I am too simple to follow the logic here. This doesnt even begin to address the signal her behavior sends to other women. Let's see she is"thinking about the Spitzer family". How about supporting another woman whose husband just damaged everything we supposedly value like trust between couples, the public and how the children see we adults. Sorry, I find her completely lacking the kind of integrity necessary to be President of the United States.
Hillary has the right to make her point. Barack is a liying bigot dont let him fool you.. He and Jackson and the rest of the "race" fighter want nothing to do with this issue. Just remember how they all came down on Imus..
John Sheff - Why shouldn't she bring it up? She is asked a question and she gave her answer. One would hope that politicians could actually do that on occasion. Worry about the truth for the sake of your country, not your political party's stability.
It's clearer now more than ever! Hillary has given up and decided to run again in 2012! She'll destroy Obama for 2008 (and 2012). She'll let McCain win in 2008 and hope he screws up for 2012.
The Clinton's will eat their own to win!
are you guys really serious? do you actually think that a black man will be voted in as president before a war hero?
Get real people. I've lived in Jersey all my life and never really bothered voting because Jersey's always Democratic. But if Obama get the nomination then forget it, I'm voting for McCain.
Do you really think Obama has never heard what Wrights about. He knows and he's always known. People know what's going on in their church.
Do you realize that all should Barack get the nomination, it will be a election based on race, why? Because that's human nature.
Provo, Hillary. Glad to know that you wouldn't tolerate those kind of lies about our country. You are right. You can't disown your family or choose your family, but you can disown or choose a pastor. Provo, Hillary! You go after them, lady!
I also, applaud Hillary for standing by Bill in his time of crisis and weakness. It has made your marriage stronger, for your strength in this whole situation. I don't know if I could have been as strong as you. But then I don't know if I love my husband the same way you love, Bill. We are all different. But one thing I hope we are not different about and that is the loyalty we all hold for our country! No matter how wrong our country may have been when doing somethings in the past.
Barack Obama - "The Speech: A Brilliant Fraud"
Lies of the Heart, Lies of the Mind ... Lies of All Kinds!
"After you've heard lie upon lie, it can hardly be question of why..."
I'm truly disappointed...
But of course she would have left the church. She would've ran away with the head down, under sniper fire, just like she did in Tuzla.
First and foremost she wasn't a member of Graham's church. As for the Lewinsky affair I believe for those who take marriage seriously the vows say 'for better or worse, richer or poorer'. However I also realize that for the immediate gratification mindset of many Americans those vows mean nothing; just something you say for family and friend groupies at an expensive get together. Also I guest the poster who wants her to concede now only likes democracy when it agrees with his position. Once thing this election has exposed is the utter hypocrisy of many people, along with bigotry, general hatefulness and absolutely no concept of what real democracy is. Intellectually the US is nothing by a third world country with money, oops, I should have said debt.
yeah, yeah, yeah.
I did not think that HRC would have the guts to touch this subject. Please check out her church .....er...cult....as documented on the Huffington Post or Mother Jones.
Her comments smack of desperation. After her embellished version of her trip to Bosnia, you would think she'd retract her claws for awhile.
Are you guys really serious? Do you actually think that a black man will be voted in as president before a war hero?
Get real people. I've lived in Jersey all my life and never really bothered voting because Jersey's always Democratic. But if Obama get the nomination then forget it, I'm voting for McCain.
Do you really think Obama has never heard what Wrights about. He knows and he's always known. People know what's going on in their church.
Do you realize that all should Barack get the nomination, it will be a election based on race, why? Because that's human nature.
Hillary has a far better shot at winning vs McCain than Obama.
First and foremost she wasn't a member of Graham's church. As for the Lewinsky affair I believe for those who take marriage seriously the vows say 'for better or worse, richer or poorer'. However I also realize that for the immediate gratification mindset of many Americans those vows mean nothing; just something you say for family and friend groupies at an expensive get together. Also I guest the poster who wants her to concede now only likes democracy when it agrees with his position. Once thing this election has exposed is the utter hypocrisy of many people, along with bigotry, general hatefulness and absolutely no concept of what real democracy is. Intellectually the US is nothing by a third world country with money, oops, I should have said debt.
Hillary has next to no chance to win this year's nomination and she knows it.
However, she would rather wreck the Democratic nomination in 2008 so that John McCain can win, so she'll have a better shot at running in 2012.
She's very smart. Evil, perhaps, but very smart.
- A Hillary supporter until about 2 months ago.
That is it. I was a supporter of Clinton, but I am finished. I do not think it appropriate for her of all people to weigh in on how much leeway we give those we love to think or speak differently than we. Obama's speech on race appreciated and understood this. Clinton does also, but she will say anything to get a vote. And she just lost mine.
But of course she would have left the church. She would've ran away with the head down, under sniper fire, just like she did in Bosnia.
This just underlines why I cannot support Hilary even though there are many things I admire about her. She is vicious and mean spirited; quite happy to pull the entire ship down if it doesn't follow her course. The worst possible choice for presidential leadership.
I see nothing good coming of a Clinton presidency. I think I would skip the election if her name is on the ballot.
How does Bill Clinton's affairs become equivalent to racist speech? That was a private matter between Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton. The pastor's sermons were quite public. He was basically inciting people and from the video the congregation was in agreement. I would walk out regardless of the state of my marriage. If I attend a church, mosque, temple, or synagogue where the religious leader exhorts us the way Wright did, I am not responsible the first time. If I return for more exhortations, I become complicit. If the preacher makes hateful comments to me privately, I will privately tell the preacher to stop. If the preacher does not respect my feelings, the private conversation comes to an end.
As I recall, the Clinton's church in Washington--Foundry United Methodist Church-- was known for some very interesting political stands during those years. On several occasions, the church took stands that were in direct conflict with the Clinton's public views. They didn't walk out on that church or its pastor.
Like most of the country, Hillary has probably not taken the time to hear the entire sermons from Wright that those little snippets were extracted from.
So we get more of the same bluster from a Democratic politician that we might expect from the political right.
Haven't we had enough?
Many of us would have walked out, so the comment by itself isn't unreasonable. But we also know that: (1) Obama wasn't there for the worst of the comments we've now seen, so it's unclear that she would have walked out had she seen what he did; (2) that many good-hearted people wouldn't have walked out, because they decided there was sufficient good there to warrant staying; and (3) that Obama's relationship with Wright was decades long and therefore not so easily thrown out over one or two offensive remarks.
The bottom line is that we don't really know what Obama would have done had he heard the g-d America speech because he wasn't there. It's plainly obvious to anyone who pays attention that Wright's view, at least at that moment, couldn't have been more contrary to Obama's own views. Wright is the man who brought Obama to faith -- no small thing among those of us who are Christians. So are we really going to bring down a leader of great promise because of the statements -- however misguided -- of another person?
Wow I cannot believe the ignorance of our culture these days. To compare someone blasting people publicly and blasting American culture as well as American government in a church setting to a man having an affair. They are not even on the same level! In no way shape or form should such hate talk be in a church setting, and anyone who would stand by that! What Wright said about the country, the government, and other "cultural" issues was against numerous people in this country. It was an attack on every person who supports the war, who supports or supported Bush and is pro-anger and hatred.
Hillary has the right to make her point. Barack is a liying bigot dont let him fool you.. He and Jackson and the rest of the "race" fighter want nothing to do with this issue. Just remember how they all came down on Imus..
John Sheff - Why shouldn't she bring it up? She is asked a question and she gave her answer. One would hope that politicians could actually do that on occasion. Worry about the truth for the sake of your country, not your political party's stability.
If Senator Clinton feels the need to keep this misdirected issue alive perhaps the MSM might think about delving into her longterm association with the Domnionist group "The Fellowship"/"The Family" for parity......
COme on people get real, Hillary was only answering the question of the reporter, jeez people give it a rest either way John McCain has this election wrapped up since obama completely divided the democratic party. Luckily for all us democrats, McCain is secretly on our side lol, i mean come on immigration, taxes, social values...ALL LIBERAL. plus u guys have to admit obama has been lying quite a lot also. don't blame everything on the hillary.obama and hillary both have their faults but u have to realize that obama can in no way shape or form "change" anything. in order for there to be change u'd have to get rid of all the 500+ member off congress and the judiciary members and find people who will actually work together. unfortunately whenever obama says change i think he's talking about communism :(
The standard that "whites" are held up to should be equal for "blacks". If this had been Clinton's pastor saying the same comments about blacks OR whites, she would be raked through the coals; disowned by the American public. Let's get real, the nation is scared to be real about race, just as Obama pointed out. This is a "real" truth about racism: Reverse discrimination is prevalent & there is a huge double standard.
But of course she would have left the church. She would've ran away with the head down, under sniper fire, just like she did in Bosnia.
Hillary is so out of it that she is a victim of her own delusions. She thought she was under sniper attack when in fact she was greeted by the president and an 8 year old girl who read her a poem. Bill's actions have shown that there is no integrity. I am so sick of the Clintons. I certainly do not want a 72 year old guy making critical decisions. Obama is not perfect , however, he is a fresh face with fresh ideas. None of the clergy we see or hear publicly have a clue about Christianity and the teaching of Jesus. These are idiot men who think that they are saving our souls when they can not even save their own. Obama is intelligent and articulate. Hillary has lied over and over again. Wait until Obama hits her on her Nafta lies and now her so called credentials. Hillary is her own worst enemy.
It seems to me the voters have three choices
1 John McCain a war hero ,and probably right on no precipitous Iraq withdrawls but no business experience. In fact he and his has father lived off our taxes(military service)
2. Hillary -Has the right perpspective on what's wrong with corporate America (Unbridled GREED) and what changes in law are needed for the working class
3.Barack Obama -staying with Wright is a serious error in judgment -but his intellect and demeanor are superior to Hilary's and McCain( and is essential for effective leadership
Summary President Obama
VP Hillary
Sec Defense John McCain
It is obvious we need more independents or Democrats in Congress to get a supermajority so there will be no excuses fo non-performance by the Hill
Hillary has the right to make her point. Barack is a liying bigot dont let him fool you.. He and Jackson and the rest of the "race" fighter want nothing to do with this issue. Just remember how they all came down on Imus..
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hillary is ALWAYS revising something ... "I didn't realize...." "I didn't know" ..... "I objected but didn't have a real voice" .... "I was ducking sniper fire" .... " I would have done" ....
Is this what the next four years would look like?
Haven't we had enough of excuses and buck passing?
Hillary: why do you persist in trying to tear down Barack Obama when there is universal consensus that you can't possibly win the nomination? Are you so blinded by your lust for power that you would risk destroying your party and put the country through 4 more years of disaster and ruination under McCain?
This election is really about you and your delusional sense of entitlement to the presidency and perpetuating the Clintonian political franchise. As if there was ever any doubt.
Liar, liar pants flambe. Yeah Hillary, just a chip off the old Bill block
What about those snipers shooing at u in Bosnia! Isn't it strange that no one else can recall , nor video can confirm that tale ...Mispoke , no just another lie...
Get a hold of yourself. She was asked in the interview "what she would have done". I would have done the same thing=walked out. I have done that in the past and found another place to attend Mass. There is no comparison to remaining in a parish or church community and remaining with your spouse. Perhaps many of you would have left your husbands for extra marital affairs; perhaps I might have also and did leave my husband. But there were many other more important reasons I had for ending my marriage. That is a personal, private decision that each spouse makes for themself. We have had divorced male presidents; male presidents and govenors who had illicit affairs, smoked pot, snorted cocaine, prostitute lobbyists, proposition Congressional interns, etc. Her "weakness" was choosing to remain with her husband, which is no one's business but her's. You people are not using your heads and your logic. You are operating on personal emotional weaknesses of your own! This is a primary campaign. If you have voted for your candidate, and he appears to have the margin of victory, what are you so hateful about? Get over it. If I can resign myself to the fact that the candidate I feel is more qualified and knowledgeable may not be victorious, why can't you resign yourself to victory and stop the hateful comments? This is a campaign, not another coronation as we had in 2000 and in 2004.
Well, Ms. Clinton has changed her stripes again- or has she?
She certainly hasn't changed her political tactics learned from her mentor Saul Alinsky while at Wellesley.
Alinsky's 13th rule for radicals
"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."
read the whole article here: She will say and do anything to steal the nomination.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/hillary_and_bill_use_alinksy_t.html
Please: No more Clintons in the White House.
Liar, liar pants flambe. Yeah Hillary, just a chip off the old Bill block
What about those snipers shooing at u in Bosnia! Isn't it strange that no one else can recall , nor video can confirm that tale ...Mispoke , no just another lie...
She was asked a question and she answered it. The same way I would have reponded as well.
Reporters should ask her why she stayed with Bill.
Well, Ms. Clinton has changed her stripes again- or has she?
She certainly hasn't changed her political tactics learned from her mentor Saul Alinsky while at Wellesley.
Alinsky's 13th rule for radicals
"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."
read the whole article here: She will say and do anything to steal the nomination.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/hillary_and_bill_use_alinksy_t.html
Please: No more Clintons in the White House.
Samanthia was right. This woman will say or do anything. "Shame on you Hillary Clinton."
She would have run out of there just as fast as she ran off that plane while solving the problems in Bosnia.
Oh, wait......
She would have walked out the man who brought her to Christ? The man who officiated at her wedding? The man who baptized her child?
And her people have the nerve to call somebody else Judas?
Hillary is right. HIllary has much higher standards on loving America and being patriotic. Obama is just a low life. He never loved America. Just like his wife, he never felt proud of America until he started winning the nomination contest! What a shame on the ones who voted for Obama in the primaries!
Well, Ms. Clinton has changed her stripes again- or has she?
She certainly hasn't changed her political tactics learned from her mentor Saul Alinsky while at Wellesley.
Alinsky's 13th rule for radicals
"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."
read the whole article here: She will say and do anything to steal the nomination.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/hillary_and_bill_use_alinksy_t.html
Please: No more Clintons in the White House.
So, Clinton or Obama? Hmmm....let's look at their resumes....relationships with "close advisors".....seems pretty clear: Hillary. Why not jump on a bandwagon of hype? The problem I have with Mr. Obama is his pattern of saying one thing and then distancing himself from those words when the opposite is revealed at a later date. That is called "spin", folks, and certainly not "new politics". It also speaks to his platform of "good judgement". How can it be good judgement to listen to divisive words when you are also running on a platform of "unity", and listen to that for 20 years, just as an aside. How can it be good judgement to have a close friend and political associate whom you used to buy a piece of property with, who was widely known it be under investigation for political fraud and corruption? We have a need and right to know Senator Obama from every angle and what he believes when he talks of equality and a "vision" for America. For voters (or media) to say that Clinton +/or Obama is at fault for the direction the Democratic campaign has headed, is ludicrous and short-sighted. America is a melting pot of races, genders, culture, etc. and we each have a personal interest in seeing "ourselves" in our President. With that connection comes passion and emotional investment. However, it also must be tempered with information about the candidates (good and bad, without negative "label" attached to said information) so that we can make informed choices, rather than only emotionally-driven ones. To Americans: try to take off the blinders of opinion polls, media spin, mud and excitement and remember what this race is really about: Hiring someone to do the toughest and, arguably, most important job on the planet. Being President of the US isn't about speeches, promises and what-if's - it is about who you believe will get up, everyday, and work their butt off for every hardworking American, because they have a track record of that already. That person is Senator Clinton. She has worked hard and diligently for all Americans, and spent years building strong relationships because she has a passionate vision of what America can be, not just because she's running for President. Vetted, intelligent, tested and hardworking. Senator Clinton is the right choice for me in '08
It is unfortunate, for the Democratic Party, that Hillary Clinton has to espouse such a lowbrow, disingenuous argument in a desperate attempt to put herself in a more favorable light than Mr. Obama. If anything, the more she goes on with this diatribe the brighter, in every sense, Barack Obama appears.
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hillary is ALWAYS either REVISING or EXCUSING or BLAMING .... this behavior has passed for GOVERNING long enough in my opinion.
Let's be honest, Hillary would sleep with Wright if it furthered her "career."
This is so funny reading democats argue with each other. It seems like both democratic canidates are liars.
Obama first never heard Rev. Wright say anti-america things. But a few days later he has.
Then Hillary was first under sniper fire. And again, a few days later she was not.
She would have walked out the man who brought her to Christ? The man who officiated at her wedding? The man who baptized her child?
And her people have the nerve to call somebody else Judas?
Samanthia was right. This woman will say or do anything. "Shame on you Hillary Clinton!"
Do we want to have a President who hates our country?
The democratic party should allow primary elections only until the republican nominee is decided. The states after that do not matter ..right? Hopefully, next time around the plan will be to have all states voting completed by March to ensure a fair outcome.
To Annitia, Chris Salditt: Are you married? When I married I committed to my husband for life. If he had an affair, sure I would want to turn away and never look back, but somehow, I don't trust that I could do that, regardless of the pain it caused. So, until you've walked in those shoes, your comments don't hold much water. Besides, the betrayal of trust between two loved ones, is far different than the acceptance of perpetuating fear and hate in a community that is uncertain and susceptible to these types of statements and claims. Apples and oranges!
I like how she refused to comment while it was still an issue. Then once the public and media get bored of it and realize her lies about Bosnia and her "experience" she decides it is now time to make a comment. Hillary should have dropped out long ago, she is only hurting the Democratic Party by staying in the race.
Senator Obama has managed to divert the nation from the question that he faced: why did he seek out as a mentor a man who expounded radical hatred for the United States of America? This has nothing to do with race. His brilliant speech has largely succeeded it seems in distracting attention from his poor judgment in the associates he chooses. Senator Clinton is absolutely correct to draw attention to this pitfall. It is really ironic that the same people who applaud Senator Obama for sticking by the incendiary pastor criticized Senator Clinton for succeeding in reserving her marriage. What utter hypocrisy. I think Senator Clinton will prevail in this contest because she has truth on her side.
It is unfortunate, for the Democratic Party, that Hillary Clinton has to espouse such a lowbrow, disingenuous argument in a desperate attempt to put herself in a more favorable light than Mr. Obama. If anything, the more she goes on with this diatribe the brighter, in every sense, Barack Obama appears.
Well, Ms. Clinton has changed her stripes again- or has she?
She certainly hasn't changed her political tactics learned from her mentor Saul Alinsky while at Wellesley.
Alinsky's 13th rule for radicals
"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."
read the whole article here: She will say and do anything to steal the nomination.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/hillary_and_bill_use_alinksy_t.html
Please: No more Clintons in the White House.
I understand Hillary, she is right .. She suffered,bore stoically what no woman does -- she did not give up her husband. It shows her maturity and blance of mind so rare here. She considered Family more precious than husband's indiscretions.
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Reg Wright and Obama what is right ? The nature of realtionship is different-- Obama's is case of split personality. You dont continue assocation with any who has wronged the National Psyche, who disparagingly ignores the work done by so many in US for over 150 years. We have to accept, that with honorable exceptions the apparent Black and White, difference is exploited for personal advantages
even now
I have so much regard and respect for the Clintons. But after all this negativity from them about Obama, I think it is quickly eroding. Please let it go Hillary, please!
Obama's true colors are coming to the forefront. He keeps accusing her of negative politics, as he engages in negative politics. He's guilty of everything he's accused Hillary of being. As he points the finger at Hillary, he's got three fingers pointing back at himself.
If Wright rubs off on Obama, then how do Norman Hsu, James Blair, Jim and Susan McDougal, Marc Rich, Almon Glenn Braswell, Carlos Vignali and a host of others including Monica Lewinsky and Paula Jones rub off on Hillary?
In the highly unlikely event that Hillary steals the nomination, McWar and the rabid dogs of the republican party will expose Hillary's true nature - something Obama won't do - and dance her naked across the televion sets and front pages of America.
Mrs Clinton passes off lies as truth, but when caught in the act she claims she "misspoke" which again is another lie. This is the substance of the vast political experience gained over the years, her resounding creterion.
You know, I have liked Mr. Obama all along and as much as it pains me and everyone else, she is right and today we found out that Obama donated $25.000 to that very same church. He didn't protest and giving that much money tells me all I need to know, even if nobody else wants to admit the truth. I will probably go to McCain now, or maybe Clinton, because she needed to say this because it is true and her husband did not say he hated or blamed America for anything. So any comparison just isn't there. So Obama, maybe another speach or some flowery words? I just can't listen to you anymore--ever. If you don't win the prez now, then you will never win in politics again and I think you know that. Good luck.
The Clintons have been consistently playing 'the race card' since S. Carolina. They won't stop.
The real question is how far will H. Clinton drag the party down to meet the needs of her own ego.
Her sentences all have the words I or me in them. Obama's have we or us. That's all you need to know about the Clintons. They have (both of them) consistently put their interests ahead of the party.
Want to know who Hillary Clinton would have as her pastor?
(hint: think power-mongering right-wing nutjob)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/20/opinion/main3955108.shtml
Like she walked out on Suha Arafat? Oh, that's right. She hugged her and gave her a kiss instead.
So she would walk out on Wright who made a derogatory comment and harmed maybe,only his flock and perhaps Obama's presidential chances, but she would not stand up to Bush on a war vote when American lives are at stake?
Give me a break!
If you look up the word pander in the dictionary her picture is there.
Hillary's racebaiting tactics will fool only the portion of the population that would vote for her regardless of her opponent. They are blind to her incessant lies and her politics of personal destruction.
Let's join together to move this country forward, and not backward into the divisive and hateful politics of the Bush/Clinton past.
Obama for President!
I have seen these tactics Hillary is using before. In the late 1400's Vlad The Impaler employing a scorched earth policy, along with ambushes, night attacks, and the tactics of fear. He forced his his enemy to retreat but kill most of the towns people and left the lands barren.
Thanks Hillary for screwing us all just because you feel you and only you should be President!
Good for Hillary!
Democrats need to wake up. Obama cannot win the general election. There is far more love of country in this nation, than the media understands. America will not stand for such lack of judgement, particularly when the object of hatred, is our own country.
She says she would have walked out, but can you believe her?
If Obama wins the nomination I will as a commited Democrat vote for him.my preference is Senator Clinton. For the Clinton bashers, get a life. Make a list
of all the Republican congressmen and senators who have had extramarital
affairs, divorces and are pedophiles and then cast stones. Check out the fact
that their are more divorces in the so-called red states (the religious ones)
than in the more liberal blue states. There are more pressing problems in
our country than Obama's problem over a blue dress. There is the war,
the economy, global warming, education, health care, corruption at the highest
level of the current Bush Republican administration and its attack on our
civil liberties and a woman's right to control her own body.
Clinton has no business saying what she "would have" done if Rev. Wright were her pastor. Rev. Wright was speaking in a black church to a black congregation. As Obama so elogantly illucidated, Rev. Wright's comments can be understood in the context of a black man who was brought up in a society that was intolerant to African Americans.
Obama is a rare candidate in that he can see the perspective of both sides of the race issue. Perhaps Clinton too had a grandmother who was afraid of black men, but she certainly has no idea what she would have done if she were a black congregant in a black church. What her argument boils down to is that she thinks she knows what it's like to be a black man in America. The woman has no empathy.
I was in a similar position when the senior pastor at a church I had been attending (and had been a part of for over 20 years) made a remark about a homosexual man and used the word "queer" in describing him. The next week he mentioned the subject again and downplayed his remark. I still do not think he actually hates gay men or women but he demonstrated an appalling lack of discernment, Christian love and sensitivity. And for that reason and that reason alone my husband and I left there that week never to return. It wasn't that difficult a decision. We clearly realized that that man would never be an effective spiritual leader, personal role model or true representative of Christ and Biblical teaching. I don't hate him or reject everything he ever said, we just couldn't stay there and by our presence lend approval to his words. That is my persepective and what I would want to discuss with Senator Obama.
Poor Hillary, trying like mad to keep her madness at bay.
It's in the bulging eyes, that hard won smile that hurts to look at,
she can barely keep it together she looks like she's about to snap.
Meanwhile Barack is cool, calm and measured no matter what gets thrown at him.
Isn't this who we need in charge now?
Interesting that she would pick today to comment on Pastor Wright. Is it mere coincidence that she did this the same day as Obama released his income taxes? She continues to lie and exaggerate about her role in NAFT, her foreign "policy" experience, moves the goal post on the delegates, and everything else she verbalizes. Seems as if she can't help herself. Her mouth moves and the lies come spilling out. Where are your tax returns? I am a lifelong Democrat but will NOT vote for HRC, someone who confirms that she will do anything, say anything and distort anything to receive her "entltlement." She is so silly.
Shame on you Hilary. What is more important, the country or your political career? Do the right thing and bow out now. Your ego is unreal.
about jonathan R. posting:
What!! you are going to drag Billy Graham into this mud bath. He is not even in the same low league as Rev Wright. You might need to listen closer to Billy Graham you just might find out some things you don't seem to know.
I do not like Clinton AT ALL but at least she had the courage to speak out strongly against racism. I doubt her motivations; I think they are probably more out of selfish desire to get elected rather than any real dislike of racism, but still she spoke out.
Walk...I would have thought that she would "run head down to the waiting vehicles."
I find Clinton's moral flexibility utterly fascinating.
So a minister is supposed contend that America won't be(or hasn't been)(or isn't being) punished by God for it's sins? What minister would contend that America is above the wrath of God? Of course we are being punished. How else can a minister explain George The Worst President Ever W. Bush?
9/11 was purportedly carried out by folks who pray 5 times a day. They are talking to God all of the time so who should question their motives. They were directed by God no matter how much manifest destiny you try to cover them with.
They are both wrong.
Obama was not offended until it became politically expedient or politically necessary. And yes, he could have and should have "disowned" Wright a long time ago. He gave a great speech but didn't adequately defend his character. He had 20 years to find his outrage.
Clinton is obviously transparent. She and hubby sat through many sermons from Dr. Vaught and didn't learn a thing. She invents "experience" in an attempt to justify her Day 1 claim. But if spending time in the White House and occasionally sleeping with Bill is experience, there are a number of "qualified" women.
So...
Let's take the gloves off. The GOP will be doing it, so let's get it all out of the way. Her Whitewater and Rose Law and his narcotics. His poor judgment in friends, pastor, and advisers and her poor judgment in friends and advisors. (For her, pastor is irrelevant - any of her religious observance is a sham.) His lack of experience and her invented experience. Slug it out and let the "Supers" evaluate who can take a GOP punch best.
If either one can truly be President, they can no longer coast on their race or gender. Their aids immediately brand any hard question as either sexist or racist. If the candidates can't take a punch, they can't be President. So, prove their competence or concede to the GOP.
How about her church? The Fellowship...
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html
And she wonders why Richardson dropped his alliance with her.
Gosh, then why didn't she leave Bill if she's so righteous? And, by the way, is she currently dodging snipers in Bosnia?
Hillary lied and made up the sniper story, like her husband many times. Barack lied and knows his pastors views completely and lied about saying he did not know them, and I am sure he agrees with them, Barack is a wolf in sheeps wool. Vote for McCain , a true american .