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Cuomo disappointed by thumbs down

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor March 31, 2008 04:40 PM

Democratic Party elder Mario Cuomo said today that the Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama camps have indicated no interest in an idea he floated in the Boston Globe -- that they should form a joint ticket.

At the least, he said in his op-ed piece, Clinton and Obama should agree to pick the other as vice president as a way to soothe the disappointment and bitterness of the other's supporters.

Appearing on CNN to plug his proposal, the former New York governor said he fears lasting damage in the party that could end up putting Republican John McCain in the White House. Cuomo is the latest big-name Democrat to publicly air such misgivings because the campaign has become filled with nearly daily attacks, with no end in sight -- at least not until June.

Cuomo said he's surprised by the cold shoulder he's received so far from the candidates, especially from Obama, since he has agreed to meet Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad without preconditions. If the Democrats are willing to negotiate with foreign leaders, Cuomo asked, why not each other?

14 comments so far...
  1. He needs to keep her special interest groups away from the presidency. She may owe too many favors to too many people...who can tell since she isn't showing transparency so far.

    Posted by Nathan March 31, 08 05:14 PM
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  1. The entire Clinton family -- Bill, Hillary and Chelsea -- are congenitally incapable of honesty. None of them can be trusted to tell the truth about anything. Obama must not associate with these people.

    Look at Chelsea Clinton -- a thirty-year old woman telling an 8-year old girl: "Sorry, I don't talk to the press." The press! Plus taking umbrage at a university student asking a completely legitimate question about the effect of Bill's infidelity and lying on her credibility.

    Hillary is lying -- currently -- about how much cash her campaign has, her combat experience in Bosnia and her willingness to disclose her tax returns.

    And Bill is currently lying about his intentions in comparing Obama to Jesse Jackson, and his story about witnessing Obama's campaign in Nevada intimidating Hillary's supporters.

    Posted by gpo March 31, 08 05:56 PM
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  1. Meet, yes, negotiate, yes, back down, no.

    So far it's been Hilary's camp that has refused to negotiate anything regarding seating FL and MI. All along, they've had two ultimatums: count flawed elections, or hold new, expensive and legally impossible re-votes.

    Posted by memoryaid March 31, 08 06:10 PM
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  1. Why should Mario Cuomo be picking anybody's VP running mate? Why not me?

    Since I support Obama, I have pretty much got my own cabinet ideas. Everybody I know has their favorite VP candidate. However, I do not know anyone who wants these two on the same ticket.

    Posted by Gaias Child March 31, 08 06:27 PM
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  1. Oh come on, Cuomo is an idiot for this suggestion. He's concern trolling. The Democratic party will survive this as long as it doesn't go to the convention. Obama could pick plenty of other candidates for VP that would better complete the ticket, as could Clinton. If they are together, then they've doubled their weaknesses and neither of them has national security credibility or real foreign affairs experience.

    Clinton has shown an unwillingness to negotiate that actually reminds me foreign dictators. She will not give an inch, and she resents Obama deeply. If her voters don't vote for Obama, it will be because she has been telling them for months that Obama has no experience, that McCain is a great guy, and she's posting seriously skewed information on her "fact hub" that inflames her supporters against him. Obama has been much, much better about being respectful toward her.

    If Cuomo wants to save the party, he should recommend that Clinton stop with the negative campaigning!!

    Posted by marla March 31, 08 06:28 PM
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  1. > If the Democrats are willing to negotiate with foreign leaders, Cuomo asked,
    >why not each other?

    Because they are telegraphing their typical liberal prejudice of believing their fellow Americans are the bad guys? Even if you don't believe in such a thing, it sure plays into the stereotype -- and that's bad for them in November.

    I can live with a split between which parties hold Congress & White House. I don't know if it's a really long learning curve, or the effects of the otherwise seemingly inneffective Democratic controlled Congress, but even the Bush administration is reforming some of their most obstinately poorly managed programs.

    Posted by Dal90 March 31, 08 06:32 PM
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  1. If I were Barack Obama, I would not want any part of an HRC ticket. She has that sense of entitlement that is nauseating, doesn't listen to anyone's opinions other than her own (i.e., her Healthcare views during Bill's administration), and she comes with alot of baggage (i.e., Bill).

    Posted by Mary March 31, 08 06:35 PM
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  1. I fear that Cuomo may be an idiot. Why on earth would Obama want HRC or Slippery Bill around? Beyond the fact that boht Clintons are manipulative, duplicitous and self serving, HRC is an intellectual lightweight next to Obama. She has a poor grasp of foreign affairs as evidence by her misinterpretation of Pakistani politics following the Bhutto assassination.

    In the end, the Clintons will be left trying to sabotage Obama, so they can make a final run in 2012. That will be both of their legacies.

    Posted by Mike March 31, 08 06:46 PM
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  1. This idea had merit some time back. The Bosnia "mis-statement" has caused an irreparable loss of credibility for Mrs. Clinton. How can a person who makes such blatantly false statements be trusted? Even an apology can't erase the distaste she has left us with.

    Posted by Jon March 31, 08 08:35 PM
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  1. Mario Cuomo is missing something. If one is doing politics because he believes in something other than just getting in the White House at all cost which is clearly what Clinton is, then he cannot accept to work with her.

    I cannot see any circumstances anyone would want to work with Hillary Clinton irrespective of whether he is boss or deputy. How can one work with someone he can't trust? Someone with no moral barriers and ethically challenged. Someone who lies when there is no need to as in the case of the snipers in Bosnia? Someone who says that Michigan vote won't count and turns back to say that it must. Someone who says publicly that Nafta was the best thing that happened under Clinton presidency and then turn around to say she was against it. Someone who lies and says that she was sleep deprived (3 times..., what happens if the call arrives at 3:00 AM). Someone who congratulated Bush on the Sadam war as reported in the Wall Street Journal article of 02/08/2007.

    April 20, 2004. Mrs. Clinton tells Larry King: "I don't regret giving the President the authority because at the time it was in the context of weapons of mass destruction, grave threats to the United States, and clearly, Saddam Hussein had been a real problem for the international community for more than a decade." Asked whether she thinks she was "fooled," she replies: "The consensus was the same, from the Clinton Administration to the Bush Administration. It was the same intelligence belief that our allies and friends around the world shared about the weapons of mass destruction."

    - October 2005. Antiwar fervor on the left is picking up, and activist Cindy Sheehan compares her to Rush Limbaugh after Mrs. Clinton tells the Village Voice: "My bottom line is that I don't want their sons to die in vain . . . I don't believe it's smart to set a date for withdrawal . . . I don't think it's the right time to withdraw."

    Posted by jsahiri March 31, 08 09:20 PM
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  1. Who would be the president ? Who would be the Vice President ? That is why it won't happen.

    Posted by M, O'Connor March 31, 08 11:19 PM
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  1. YOU MIGHT BE AN IDIOT:-)

    If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

    You Might Be An Idiot!

    If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

    You Might Be An Idiot!

    If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

    You Might Be An Idiot!

    If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

    You Might Be An Idiot!

    If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

    You Might Be An Idiot!

    If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.

    You Might Be An Idiot!

    If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

    You Might Be An Idiot!

    If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

    You Might Be An Idiot!

    If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

    Best regards

    jacksmith...

    Posted by jacksmith April 1, 08 04:07 AM
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  1. DON'T BE DUPED !!!

    Large numbers of Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on. Because they feel he would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And because they feel that a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket would be unbeatable. And also because with a Clinton and Obama ticket you are almost 100% certain to get quality, affordable universal health care very soon.

    But first, all of you have to make certain that Hillary Clinton takes the democratic nomination and then the Whitehouse. NOW! is the time. THIS! is the moment you have all been working, and waiting for. You can do this America. “Carpe diem” (harvest the day).

    I think Hillary Clinton see’s a beautiful world of plenty for all. She is a woman, and a mother. And it’s time America. Do this for your-selves, and your children’s future. You will have to work together on this and be aggressive, relentless, and creative. Americans face an even worse catastrophe ahead than the one you are living through now.

    You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don’t want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves.

    Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama’s. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!

    As much as 30% of Obama's primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help.

    Hillary Clinton has been out manned, out gunned, and out spent 4 and 5 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton.

    If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. Because the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. All of this vote fraud and republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is. YOUNG PEOPLE. DON’T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose.

    The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. I suggest a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.

    I think Barack Obama has a once in a life time chance to make the ultimate historic gesture for unity, and change in America by accepting Hillary Clinton’s offer as running mate. Such an act now would for ever seal Barack Obama’s place at the top of the list of Americas all time great leaders, and unifiers for all of history.

    The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.

    Fortunately the Clinton’s have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic comebacks of Hillary Clinton’s. Only the Clinton’s are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen.

    “This is not a game” (Hillary Clinton)

    Sincerely

    jacksmith...

    Posted by jacksmith April 1, 08 04:09 AM
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  1. I wouldnt trust Hillary as far as I could throw her, She is NOT the stronger candidate.

    Posted by mike April 1, 08 07:35 PM
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