Obama: Clinton trying to 'hoodwink' voters with VP talk

When I heard the Clintons float the idea of Obama as a possible Vice-President, I was outraged. Obama has the mettle and the courage of his convictions and these attributes are what this country needs in its next president. The Clintons are trying to act slick by treating Obama as a "has been" who might be desperate enough to want the VP job. I hope this latest move on the part of the Clintons backfires on them.

One couldn't ask for a more Presidential response.

Hillary, the second place candidate in this race, is offering Barack Obama the VP slot during a Presidency she will never experience. I guess now we know where Bill gets his notion of candidates and their "fairy tales" eh?

Way to go Obama! Its good to have you finally respond to these accusations! Something has to be done about your coverage lately because it does appear that the press seems to cater more to Hillary and their campaign's strategies.

Oh my God! Who cares? He wouldn't make a good VP any more than he would make a good president.

Hillary is an idiot and campaigning disgracefully.

Hillary made a boo boo on this one. How does she credibly claim his unreadiness for the rest of this campaign? She has laid bare one of two unflattering realities: either she never believed the "style over substance" line of attack to begin with, or she is willing to compromise the well being of the country if it helps her get elected. It goes to the heart of many people's reservations about her, namely that she is first and foremost a political animal, too willing to compromise principle out of political self interest. All politicians do that and there are no perfect candidates in this race. But Hillary (and Bill) do it as their first instinct, almost as a conditioned response it seems. Obama has ample material to criticize Clinton on this and other scores, without necessarily sullying himself. To do this, he must make criticisms that have honest merit, not duplicitous ones aimed at point scoring. That is where he can draw the distinction, and where he needs perhaps to do a better job.

I agreed with Senator Obama that all this talk from the Clinton camp is just to secure votes for her. She has no intentions of asking Senator Obama to become her running mate. If you notice her speech, she said that it could happen some day, but first you got to vote for HER. Just another trick by the Clintons to win this election.

Hillary seems willing to say or do anything to try and win. Good for Obama to come back at her like that.

Wow, it looks like Hillary actually inhaled.

Here is Hillary’s strategy to win. Conclude for yourself what this says about her.

1. If you are behind in total delegates, get the rules changed. Go make a stink about FL and MI and try to get them counted even though her opponents were not on the ballot in MI and nobody campaigned in FL and many voters stayed home.

2. If you are behind in total delegates, sue the state of Texas because Obama comes out ahead in delegates in Texas due to the caucus.

3. If you are behind in total delegates, make up a few lies that low IQ voters will believe. For example, claim that she has experience in national security when she has none.

4. Base your campaign on 35 years of experience, even though 28 of those 35 years were as Bill’s housewife. Believe that American voters are total morons and don’t see right through this.

5. Charm the superdelegates behind the scenes to get their votes, because its OK to do anything to win.

6. Indirectly infer that Obama might run as a VP on her ticket, attempting to coop unwary Obama voters who think this form of deceit is legitimate.

Its such a classic Clinton trick and its way past time that he calls them on this - its so incredibly insulting.

Somebody needs to tell Hillary and Bill that Obama ain't their step-n-fetchit!

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LETTER TO SENATOR BARACK OBAMA
Montreal, February 20, 2008

SENATOR OBAMA ,

The whole world has its eyes on you, on The United States Of America and its people.

Everyone expects you to be democratically elected and see that something happen in America.

In March 1983, one of humanity's most famous spokesmen, Pope John Paul II, came to our

country - 'Haîti' - and loudly proclaimed what each and every one of us had been whispering:

'Something must change here.'

Today, more than ever, a lot of people of The United States of America stand up, longing for something and working to make something happen.

And, like in March 9, 1983, beloved Haiti, History - (which from then and now on rests in thy hands) - tells thee: 'It is now time to let people speak to thee of love!', let's say today': 'Go thou America ahead and show us thy true countenance in a positive light.' It is up to everyone to play his or her part in order to let thee regain thy mark of excellence !'

With this letter, I am communicating with You, Senator Obama, and with the whole people of The United States of America.

You offer this country what it takes to be a 'Wonderfull Land.' Yes, let us say 'with a great people living together.'

Go thou, America, go ahead, following in the footsteps of one of thy sons who is now becoming one of thy statesmen.

With this in mind, Mr.Obama, to whom else could I entrust this letter sent to his Holiness Pope John Paul II when he set foot on Haitian soil for the first time, as well as its acknowledgment by the Vatican?

That letter to Pope John Paul II is intended to draw attention to the problem posed by anti-Black discrimination and its negative repercussions on the advancement of scientific progress in the West, and more precisely in the realm of Optics.

In the Western world, according to Newton's widely accepted theory, white is considered to be the synthesis of all colors. Actually, the opposite is true. White constitutes the analysis or 'visible' decoding of light or color, whereas black is its synthesis or 'invisible' composition.

In other words, darkness or blackness and, we might add, 'Black Holes' - a scientific misnomer designating invisible stars or 'Black Suns' - are a source of energy and light.

That basic raw material of light energy culminates, in its most radiant form, in the neutralization of all the colors of the spectrum in the form of so-called "white light."

Therefore "absolute blackness", the absorption of all the colors, is a divisible component of light. Needless to say, Newton's theory gives only a partial interpretation of the notion of light, by excluding black. Our contribution aims at demonstrating that the black color is not only an integral part of the color process, but its true synthesis. Light is therefore shown to be a divisible whole comprising an intensity or color scale in which black is the invisible or 'absorbed' form of the energy in question.

Allow me, Senator Obama, in order to support my statement concerning Black Holes and radiation, to pose a question asked by Hubert Reeves, Doctor of nuclear astrophysics and Scientific Consultant to NASA:

What would have become of the Sun, if it were plunged into a high temperature radiance like the one that existed at the beginning of the Universe? [our translation]

Instead of emitting light, it would absorb it and, in the end, it would be completely reabsorbed into the cosmic fluid.

The cosmic fluid is what, due to an "optical mistake", is called "darkness" or the "blackness of space". We are talking about the electromagnetic flux, that immeasurable ocean in which the planets and stars are bathed, like the sea which links all the continents together. Darkness is thus "The Sea of Space."

"What would have happened if, instead of an ordinary star like the "White Sun", a Black Hole or "Black Sun" were injected into that primordial radiation?"

"According to Einsteinian Physics, a Black Hole is a place where gravity is so formidably intense that nothing can escape it, not even visible light. Such a hole should suck in and absorb radiation and increase its own mass: E=MC2, always."

But after Einstein came Bohr, Heisenberg, and Quantum Physic. From then on, nothing was the same as before.

"The Einsteinian version of the Black Hole is equivalent to a statement that the matter inside the Black Hole is definitely there to stay, in that volume of space. Let us quote Hubert Reeves: "Such an absolute statement is thus contrary to the "Quantum spirit", affirming that nothing is definitely localized in one place. There is always a probability of escape. If the enclosing wall is too high, a tunnel will be dug; if the prisoners are patient, they will escape. One has only to wait. [our translation]."

"According to that principle, Black Holes "evaporate." Matter constantly escapes as radiation. Black Holes "shine!" Their surfaces behave like those of any body heated to a certain temperature and that radiation endlessly feeds that marvelous "Cosmic Fluid" which, wrongly and in bad faith, people keep calling "Darkness."

Nigra sum "sed" formosa. Yes, but should we not say instead, I am black "and" comely? Darkness, which is both source and vehicle of light, does not have to defend itself for being the beautiful and infinitely discreet raw material of the Universe. Darkness is the "Mother of the Universe."

Also, beautiful and discreet art thou, Haiti. Discreet, yes, but never outshone! Just like the Black Virgin who inspires and sheds her love on thee from the hilltop and even beyond Cité Soleil (Sun City).

Our purpose was to offer a more constructive approach aiming at correcting the abusive traditional, so-called scientific, theories of Optics. That is why, we wrote to that authentic witness to the signs of this age, His Holiness Pope John Paul II, the prophet of the new era.

Congratulations to You, Sir, and congratulations to the people of The United States Of America, for having made it possible for this day to mark the beginning of a "New Era of Hope !"

Lucien Bonnet

PLease, SEE :
LETTER TO POPE JOHN-PAUL II
in "BILL A RI AND THERE WAS LIGHT !"
http://www.contact-canadahaiti.ca
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LETTER TO PRESIDENT CLINTON

Montreal, March 22, 1995

President William Jefferson Clinton
President of the United States of America
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue N.W.
Washington, DC 20500
U.S.A.

Mister President:

Please allow me to take the opportunity of your visit to Haiti, as President of the United States of America, on March 31, 1995, to pay due tribute in all sincerity to you and your distinguished wife, Mrs. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

You honor Haiti and the Haitian people with your presence and support.

Thanks to you and your allies in the United Nations and the Organization of American States, the return-to-democracy process has been successfully carried out. Now that the legitimate President, Jean Bertrand Aristide, has been reinstated in his official status, it is with legitimate pride, I am sure that he welcomes you to his country. For you, as well as for us, the “Uphold Democracy” operation is truly a beautiful historical moment.

Mr. President, I come from Haiti, that underdeveloped country.

With underdeveloped tools — a camera and a few films — I have tried, in order to serve my country’s cause, to demystify the word “light” and denounce Newton’s Theory of Colors.

With that same desire to serve constitutional legitimacy in my country, I have written the enclosed book entitled Haiti, Let There Be Light! I hope that you and Mrs. Clinton will accept this privately produced copy, especially intended for you, while you are getting ready for your trip to Haiti.

May I make a confession to you, Mr. President? I followed, closely and with intense interest, your electoral campaign, election, and swearing-in ceremony as 42nd President of the United States. What a great nation you represent! Please believe me: your courageous commitment to facilitate the restoration of democracy in my country has escaped no one. On the very day of your swearing-in ceremony, I wished to send you my book, Haïti, Que La Lumière Soit!, which questions Newton’s Theory of Colors. I did not do so, because I felt an English-language version would be more appropriate.

Since I could not send you a copy of the yet-to-be-published English version of my book, I contented myself with dreaming — dreaming that on one of your first evenings in the White House, you were seated in the Oval Room with Mrs. Clinton and your daughter Chelsea. You were reading Haïti, Que La Lumière Soit! I imagined you carefully examining certain passages of that work in its English version, which is now in preparation — typed by a sightless, multilingual Haitian. Those paragraphs deal with the so-called missing matter, darkness in space, “black holes” — in a word: the invisible mass of the Cosmos. You notice Dr. Carl Sagan’s research on Exobiology and the DNA found in the dark matter in the universe, and you suddenly remember a Time article from April 10, 1978 entitled “Black Holes and Martian Valleys”, which contained the following passage:

“A while later, astronomer Carl Sagan (The Dragons of Eden) found himself lugging his slide box into the Vice President’s big new house and, after coffee, taking the Mondale and Carter families on a journey through the heavens.

Jimmy Carter is the closest thing to a scientist we have had in the White House since Thomas Jefferson.

Nixon could not run a tape recorder.

Johnson could not fully figure out his alarm wrist watch.

Not Jimmy. He was fascinated by the discussion of “Black Holes” and the speculation that they might provide answers to what holds the Universe together.”

“Well,” you exclaimed, “O.K. for former President Carter. It is normal for the President of a star-spangled republic to choose between “Star Peace” and “Star War”. As to the former President’s inclination toward Einstein’s physics and/or Planck’s Quantum Theory, there is a great temptation to apply certain laws of the Cosmos to politics and diplomacy. Consider the “Tunnel Effect”, the way that energy escapes from black holes.

“Carter goes back to the sources and draws inspiration from them. That makes me think about Aristide — both of them are well at ease in both the Western world and the Black world: the visible and the invisible. However, there is one difference: the Haitians follow Aristide everywhere, like a comet’s tail. If Aristide is considered as a “Black Sun”, then the Haitians are “space refugees”.

“Yes, Haiti! We are pulled down to earth. Democracy… the exodus of the Boat People… with the Law of Probabilities, whether we think about Planck or Carter, it doesn’t seem that a solution will be found tomorrow…

“What business did the Haitians have in that “boat”?”

“Say, there above, the Black Twin! Is it still broad daylight in the shadow of the “Black Sun”?”

“Oh God,” you say aloud to Mrs. Clinton: “Eureka! I have found it! Fiat lux! Let there be light! Que la lumière soit! Black holes, black sun, tunnel effect, Aristide effect, boat people, space refugees, Carl Sagan, Jimmy Carter… six of one and half a dozen of the other.”

There is loud laughter in the Oval Room.

Bill a ri
Bill laughed

Hillary a ri
Hillary laughed

Chelsea a ri aussi
Chelsea laughed too

Humor is American, Mr. President, and so are dreams. Let my book Haïti, Que La Lumière Soit! be the “dark matter”, arguing in favor of the development of the Black world — visible and invisible!

In the area of science, high technology, creative innovation, and space exploration, I think there is nothing that America cannot deal with. That is why, in that spaceship of universal energy, I dare sail with a dream.

In my dream, it is your first trip inside your SPACE AIR FORCE ONE, propelled by the energy of invisible and concentrated dark matter, like black holes. A " mini black hole " of an avant-garde design whose motor sequence develops inertia, spectral speed, speed equal to or higher than that of light, and scientifically controlled reversibility of the phenomenon.

What a new synthesis, but also what a liberation!

Synthesis and analysis are two wings of the same bird — contracted and unfolded at the same time, following the heartbeat of the Universe tamed inside the infinitely small: “One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind!”

This would be the natural and constructive counterpart of Newton’s Theory of Light and Colors, which slows down that impulse. This is a necessary change in the name of development and progress humbly submitted on behalf of Haiti: a testimony of gratitude toward mankind. Let us go further, to the other side of the Universe, as suggested by an eyewitness: the Hubble telescope, with its camera.

“… Hubble focused on the centre of the galaxy [M87], an area 500 light-years across. The pictures revealed a spiral structure formed by fast-moving gas clouds being drawn toward the centre, rather like water going down a drain.”

Dr. Harms said the Hubble spectrographic camera was then focused on points 60 light-years across on opposite sides of the spinning disc. This camera breaks down light into its wavelength parts, rather like a prism separates colours in sunlight.” (The Globe and Mail, Thursday, May 26, 1994)

Let us in the long run, replace the camera by a motor run by the ENERGY OF THE YEAR 2000, transforming the DARK MATTER from the invisible to the visible and vice versa. We would there by take advantage of the sequence of colored and colorless light speeds, so as to better visit the Universe, where law and order are transcendent, just as in democracy.

I have decided to write this letter because your leadership, Mr. President, like an inevitable and immeasurable energy, has practically absorbed me, allowing me to express myself.

On October 4, 1994, in the General Assembly of the United Nations, a voice echoed the power of your leadership. In new words, on March 31, 1995, that same voice will repeat:

“Even now, with the peaceful launching of the operation “UPHOLD DEMOCRACY” on 19 September last year, a tropical smile has shed light upon the faces of those who espouse and love peace — Peacemakers, Peacekeepers, and Peacelovers. Together, President Clinton and we have managed to open up a “tunnel” of hope after so much suffering.”

That testimony by President Aristide at the U.N. emphasizes the magnitude of the efforts needed to bring about such a happy conclusion.

Your present trip to Haiti is the strongest confirmation of that sequence of events, and illustrates an unprecedented chapter in the annals of Haiti, as well as in the life of the Haitian people.

Thank you, Mr. President, for associating Haiti with your Strategic Development Initiative (S.D.I.) at the dawn of
the “Star Peace”.

Lucien Bonnet
http://www.contact-canadahaiti.ca
PLEASE SEE "BILL A RI AND THERE WAS LIGHT !"

I think it is completely legitimate for Clintons to appreciate that Obama has a lot of support that would strengthen Hillary's ticket and, at the same moment, to realize that - when you actually ignore what the confused Obama supporters think - Obama would be a lousy leader. There is no contradiction whatsoever as long as you look at the situation as a story from real politics rather than a theater play from absurd theater or from a utopia.

Clintons might simply understand that it could be easier to win the White House with a popular but politically weak VP than with a fully trusted (by Clintons) VP who is not that popular. In the real world - especially politics - such decisions are made and must be made on a daily basis. Too bad that the Obama supporters and Obama himself don't get it: it just shows that they are unready for real politics.

Great stuff. Why would Obama want to associate himself with the sleaziest politicians this side of Nixon.

Unbelieveable! I think the Clinton campaign strategy must be to say all of these absurd things presuming that people are too stupid to understand what they are up to. Nice try but it is a real stretch to think that the front runner should take an offer of VP from the 2nd place candidate.

Suddenly it's "the Clintons" this and "the Clintons" that... exactly how many Clintons are running for president?

And how ridiculous does it look to be suggesting the VP spot to the candidate that's running in the lead? Duh.

It galls me to hear the arrogance of Clinton saying that some states are more important than others. It seems the only REAL!! important states that REALLY count are the states that she won. Perhaps we are forgetting that Rush Limbaugh got on the air and urged Republicans to take a Democrat ballot and vote for Clinton in Texas and Ohio. Here in Ohio, there were several locations that ran out of Democratic ballots. At the Texas Caucus (Probably mostly democrats) democrats voted 56 -44 for Obama. He will end up with more delegates than Clinton in Texas. Also Clinton wants the votes of Michigan and Florida to count. The only fair way to do this is to have another election in those states. Clinton is against that. Why you might ask. It's because even if she were to win both of those states 60 / 40 she would still be behind in delegates, and more importantly, Obama would probably reach the goal of 2024 delegates if you add in the delegates of those 2 states.

When I first heard this from the Clinton camp, I thought it was sleazy but very smart political strategy. It all but promises that votes for Hillary will also count towards votes for Obama. I know Obama wants to distance himself from the fray, but it is time for him to fight. He can't continue to play fair with the playground bully.

Obama in my opinion has been suggested as a VP simply because at this point come general election one half of the democratic voters are voting mccain if their candidate is not the nominee. Honestly, I don't believe Obama is capable of being Commander in Chief. We are not voting for an American Idol, we are voting for the President of the United States. The mans political career thus far does not all reflect any new kind of CHANGE that he espouses. He's been caught lieing already several times, so much for HONESTY you can trust. This man is simply inexperienced and naive.

Hillary Clinton's sleazy campaign tactics are exactly what Barack Obama is running against. For her to suggest Obama for veep is the slimmy politics typical of Mrs. Clinton. What she does not understand, and never can, is that many of those voting for Obama will not vote for her. This is not a democrat/republican election. Is is honor, truth, and compassion versus the political establishment. I would rather vote for Nader, then Hillary Clinton.

I am 100% behind a joint ticket idea. They may be at each other's throats, but the combination of intelligence and charisma is too good for the democratic party to pass up. In addition, I like the idea that they don't see eye to eye on everything. That, alone, provides the best opportunity for the American people to get the best possible solutions. Obama is not the best presidential material and could learn a lot in the VP shoes. The best combinatin: Hillary agrees to one term as pres, guaranteeing the dems get the office for 12 years - providing no one makes any stupid mistakes.

Obama, no way Billary should be president. And don't you cave in to the VP baloney that she and her husband are trying to push on the public. The nerve of them, wanting to make you think less desirable as a president, but O.K. as a vice president. Besides, do you remember Al Gore, vp of Clinton? They totally ignored him and when he was running for president, Clinton never supported him. That shows you how the Clinton's are. If Obama does not get to be president, he should go back to the Senate, where he has done more than Billary ever has.

Excellent point!!! IT's about time he starts talking like this!

8 years as a VP would strengthen Obama's credentials and knowledge of foreign policy. What's the big hurry for Obama to run as President this year? What is he hiding? Probably because the longer he is around, the longer his voting record (no more Present votes) and then he has no where to hide.

As a white male over 40 Republican in Alabama supporting Obama, it seems to me that HRC will do or say anything to get elected. Her efforts to discredit Obama are transparent, weak and contra to her whole last year message about rising above the divisiveness. The media went hard against Obama last week after the Ohio Texas push from HRC, in response to her campaign staff's nexus to the reporters with the message that they were not asking Obama the hard questions. However, with this new shot it seems the pendulum is swinging back to Obama's favor. At the end, the choice comes down to the war and whether you want to stay or go. I don't see how anybody but Obama can come out on top of that issue with the popular sentiment where it is in our nation. Bring our people home. Do it fast.

I know Obama doesn't want to go negative . . . and I admire him for that! But it's not negative to respond to Hillary's unfair tactics, and it's not slinging mud to wash off dirt that's been hurled at you.

Clinton-Obama is a dream ticket and Obama should take it. It would clearly line him up to be the next president, after gaining experience as the VP.

That would give us Dems 16 more years in the White House. He's losing steam fast and should go for the VP.

typical Hillbill 90's mentality!!!

The media have definitely been pro-Hillary, and that's a HUGE red flag, since they were also pro-war, as was she. No matter what the media says, the primary issue in this election will be the war, not the economy, although the war is the number one drag on the economy.

The U.S. government is now $9.2 Trillion dollars in debt, and we the taxpayers are paying $400 Billion per year, every year, in interest on that debt. At least half of the debt is directly attributable to the war. Imagine how much health care could be provided for FREE to U.S. citizens if we were spending that $400 Billion on medical needs for our own citizens. This war is the biggest heist in the history of the world. We've been robbed, and Hillary was an accomplice to the crime. We'll never, ever trust her again.

Mrs. Bill Clinton is really something else. She claims that losing a State is not important; it's a delegate accumulation process. When she wins a state by a few votes, it is a landslide, it's earth shattering, it's a momentum boost, it shows buyers remorse, etc. So, look at the TX results. A GIANT win for Mrs. Bill Clinton that has launched her back to the front so she can offer a concilation branch to poor old Barack who may still want to be the VP?? But, she did not gain delegates in TX and in fact she lost ground due to the TX caucus results. Why does the media let her get away with calling TX such a big victory? Then, in WY, Mrs. Bill Clinton claims that it's not a big deal winning the state, she only cared about getting a good share of the delegates. She is a M______!

It seems Hillary is really prepared to stoop to any level to wriggle her way into the nomination. She's trailing and she's acting like she's already won the presidency. Maybe she knows something we don't. And she needs to stop implying that John McCain would be a better President than Obama. That's suggesting to Democrats that if she isn't the nominee, they should vote Republican. How can that be good for her party?

Clinton claims to be a "fighter"; dirty fighter is much more accurate. If endorsing McCain were not enough, belittling the leading Democratic contender with a meaningless offer is completely outrageous. The Scotsman had it right. She is a monster who, if she cannot have it, would give away the presidency to a continuation of the disaster they have created.

Breaking News!!! Major Political Scandal!!!

Large numbers of Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses. Because they feel he would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And because they feel that a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket would be unbeatable.

Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama's. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!

As much as 30% of Obama's primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help.

If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. Because the vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. All of this vote fraud and republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is.

The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. I suggest a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket now! All democrats need to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton. So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.

Fortunately the Clinton's have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic comebacks of Hillary Clinton's. Only the Clinton's are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen.

You should be angry America. "This is not a game" (Hillary Clinton)

Sincerely

jacksmith...

The Clintons are using a strategy called the "presumptive close" It can be an effective strategy to use when you are actually losing but a down side is that it really turns people off when they catch on to it. Good for Obama to clearly and succinctly respond!

I agree that the press has started drinking the Clinton campaign's Kool-Aid! It is more than distressing to watch SNL driving serious reporting.

"HILLARY" WHERE IS YOUR ...TAX RETUNS.........HIDING SOMETHING ARE WE

Quite frankly, when you consider the type of reprehensible behavior Hillary Clinton has been exhibiting throughout this campaign, not only do I think she's not fit to be president, I don't think she's even fit to be vice president. To call her and Billy Boy sleazy would be an understatement!

Hillary: Liar, liar, your pantsuit is on fire!

It's an excellent point.

Me thinks the Clinton strategy is more fundamental than the interpretation given to it by the media and the Obama campaign. Apart from the fact that it is an immediate attempt to hoodwink voters, I also think it is a 2 way strategy as it is also a future attempt to hoodwink Obama to pick Hillary as VP if Obama eventually wins.Because then obama will be under near obligation to pick Hillary in the belief that Hillary would have picked him if she won.Hillary Clinton I think should be more honest than that, if she wants the VP slot she should kindly step down from the race and apply for VP gracefully

OBAMA IS RIGHT HE IS'NT READY TO BE V.P. HE NEEDS MORE EXPERIENCE.

CAN SOME ONE PLEASE TELL ME WHY KERRY KEEPS FLAPPING HIS PIE HOLE FOR OBAMA WHEN HILLARY WON MA. BY A LAND SLIDE.?

REGARDING SUPER DELIGATES. MONDALE 84.

VOTE HILLARY. VOTE TO WIN THINK.

yeah right. it is absolutely ok for you to attack hillary, be negative, and divide the party as much as you have done. it's simply not ok for hillary to do the same. talking about double standards. you have shown again how cocky you are, how self-absorbed you are, how you have been running the election not for "american people" but for your high ego and your hateful wife.

The press is only catering to Hillary right now because she's the underdog. The numbers show she can't win but the press want a story. A story comes from a tight race. I just hope people continue to see Obama as hope and Hillary as the scammer she is.

This demonstrates precisely why Hillary Clinton must not return to the White House. She lacks Obama's confidence and resilience, two traits our next President absolutely must possess. Hillary is afraid that Obama's charisma will be her undoing, and rightly so; but the fact that she stoops low enough to try to get a piece of it for her personal gain is a naive attempt to undermine the better candidate.

This demonstrates precisely why Hillary Clinton must not return to the White House. She lacks Obama's confidence and resilience, two traits our next President absolutely must possess. Hillary is afraid that Obama's charisma will be her undoing, and rightly so; but the fact that she stoops low enough to try to get a piece of it for her personal gain is a naive attempt to undermine the better candidate.

How come the candidate with the more successful campaign and has generated much more grassroots excitement should be second to the "front runner" who is "ready from Day One" but did not even have a plan after Super Tuesday? If the Clintons think Clinton/Obama is a "dream team", well, keep on dreaming at 3 AM! Clearly it will be Obama who has the ability to think clearly at 3AM or 3PM without the twisted logic of the Clintons who was splitting hair about what "is" is.

I understand that Barack is does not want to run a negative campain, but I think he should speack up for himself and stand up for all of us who so strongly belive in him.
About the combo ticket first of all she is so entiltled to assume that she'll become Madamme President, then after constanly pointing out that she and Mc Cain are the only ones with experience and Barack just has a speech that he gave in 2002, it would make so much more sense if she and MC Cain would run together!!!

Hillary Clinton is a crook!!

Note that one aspect of the hoodwinking is that the Clintons' current tactic keeps media attention on the question of Obama's fitness to be commander-in-chief. Why is nobody questioning her own readiness to assume this role?

For example, in her ‘3 a.m.’ advertisement, Senator Clinton tells us that we should vote for ‘someone who already knows the world’s leaders.” But she's the candidate who, in the most recent debate, couldn’t properly name the new president of Russia. When told Dmitri Medvedev’s name, she laughed and said: ‘Whatever.’ If she can’t remember the name of the newly-elected president of Russia, how can she pretend that she knows the world’s leaders?

And in January she joked that President Putin ‘doesn’t have a soul’ (New York Times, Feb 15). Are such statements appropriate for a future commander-in-chief who will need to work with foreign heads of state?

Honestly, why are we still even considering this person for office?

Note that one aspect of the hoodwinking is that the Clintons' current tactic keeps media attention on the question of Obama's fitness to be commander-in-chief. Why is nobody questioning her own readiness to assume this role?

For example, in her ‘3 a.m.’ advertisement, Senator Clinton tells us that we should vote for ‘someone who already knows the world’s leaders.” But she's the candidate who, in the most recent debate, couldn’t properly name the new president of Russia. When told Dmitri Medvedev’s name, she laughed and said: ‘Whatever.’ If she can’t remember the name of the newly-elected president of Russia, how can she pretend that she knows the world’s leaders?

And in January she joked that President Putin ‘doesn’t have a soul’ (New York Times, Feb 15). Are such statements appropriate for a future commander-in-chief who will need to work with foreign heads of state?

Honestly, why are we still even considering this person for office?

I am a die hard Repulican but Obama makes me proud when I hear him hit Hillery with the Truth! And the truth is that Hillary and Bill want back into the White House are are will to do ANYTHING to get there!

#13: "popular but politically weak"?

Only a Clinton supporter could propose such an oxymoron with a straight face.

How one campaigns is a clear indication of how one will govern. A campaign that does not at every moment seek to broaden the Democratic electorate will not help Democrats to achieve success in what could be a transformational election. Hillary's win-at-all-cost approach to campaigning, her negative "red phone" ad is proof that Karl Rove learned everything he knows from Hill-Billy. Shameful.

Can you believe the arrogance of Hillary Clinton? Oh...wait...I guess I can.

What were Bill's credentials to be CinC back when? No more or less than Obama's are right now. In fact, under the criteria established by Hillary, Bill would not have made it out of the starting gates to be the President.

Wai Lee,
Another of HRC's zombies(high school dropouts)!
You, Clintonites, are the stupidest.
Why else would you believe the garbage HRC has been putting out there?

The Clinton Camp is desparate. How contestants conduct themselves during this race is a first peek at how they will behave while in office. If she is willing to stoop this low I can imagine the new lows America will bend with her in office. Fighting hard to win is one thing. Doing so and remaining decent and respectable is another.

I dont understand why the Clinton Presidential camp thought that the public would not see the "Deal-Or-No-Deal" type of offer.If Obama/Clinton is such a "dream ticket" why couldnt Mrs. Clinton be the V.P. Mr. Obama is after all in the lead. (and apparently a concern enough to warrent an offer)

First it was the comments by former pres Clinton in S Carolina. Then it was stupid fear mongering attack addds. You can almost hear the conversation in the Clinton planning sessions, "we have got to bring him down in the dirt with us." Now it is the VP BS.
Enough, this died in the wool Dem will vote for McCain before he will vote for a "I gotta have it", fear mongering, ego driven, machine politician with no vision. Enough, Clintons go home. F. Stein

I WILL ADMIT IT, I THOUGHT BILL WAS A HECK OF A LOT BETTER THAN REAGAN AND BUSH AND EVEN FELT THE MONICA SCANDAL WENT TO FAR BUT....

NOW, I AM SOOOOOO SICK OF ALL THINGS CLINTON!!!!

THE ENTIRE FAMILY IS GETTING ON MY NERVES AND HILLARY DOES COME ACROSS AS A PSYCHO MONSTER FROM HELL THAT IS WILLING TO SAY AND DO ANYTHING TO WIN.

IF HER CRAPPY CAMPAIGN IS A SIGN OF HER SO CALLED EXECUTIVE ABILITIES HEAVEN HELP UP IF SHE WINS THE NOMINATION.

Hill would be a good president in 90s. Turn the clock back ! she will be ready as VP early 2009.

OBAMA IS A LOSER AND A CON.HE IS PLAYING CHICAGO POLITICS WITH ALL ARE LIVES.HEY OBAMA,HOW ARE YOUR GOOD BUDDIES LOUIS FARAKHAN AND TONY REZKO.

Here are the Clintons trying to be swift, but instead are being calculating. They have no intention or interest in Obama as VP. It is their underhanded way to attempt to underscore their view that he is inexperienced..thus VP to Hillary would give him the "experience". Right. Underhanded and dishonest. Not to mention arrogant. How stupid do they think the voters are not to see through this?

jacksmith,

I think you have that backwards--it's the Rush Limbaugh Republicans that are voting for HRC, not Obama. I live in Texas, and trust me when I say that no self-respecting conservative would EVER vote for Hillary. In this state (as with most red states) she is the most divisive, villified political figure around.
On the other hand, I know lots of Republicans and independents that voted for Obama because they respect the man and his ideas to change Washington.

The Wall Street Journal recently reported on this Limbaugh "Democrat for a Day" phenomenon:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/03/06/the-limbaugh-effect-on-clintons-texas-win/?mod=googlenews_wsj

LOL BIG TIME! If Obama isn't presidential material, why would Hillary want him as VP?

Frankly, neither Clinton or Obama shall get my vote: I prefer not to pay higher taxes for their social welfare schemes.

This is classic Clinton decision making and why she is unfit to be president. Either Obama is qualified to fill the position of President of the United States or not. If not, Hillary's choice of Barack for V.P. clearly demonstrates she is clueless about the people she is addressing. The last time I checked, the V.P. is second in the chain of command and takes over as President of the United States whenever the President is unable to perform his or her duties. If Obama is qualified for V.P. the he is qualified for the #1 position.

Don't be schmoozed by "Old Time Politicks" hiding behind a skirt. Vote for the qualified candidate who really says what he means. The one who not only talks the talk, but also walks the walk. Vote Obama!

Rush Limbaugh wants you to vote for Hillary Clinton....

I'm not sure how john jay thinks Obama has attacked Clinton and went negative. Haha. High ego and hateful wife? John must have smoked a jay before he wrote that post.

I don't want to hear another word about this "dream ticket" nonsense. Hillary Clinton is the worst possible person to be in the white house, whether as president or vp. Undecided voters: do NOT settle for a vote for Hillary just because you believe she will make Obama her running mate. A Hillary administration will be the second worst thing for this country (the worst thing being a republican presidency).

Obama '08, yes we can!

Obama VP? He ain't even qualified for that. Those who think he is qualified are delusional. Did anyone here get the point when Samantha Power told the BBC Obama wasn't serious about troop withdrawal from Iraq????? He can't even hide is hypocrisy.

Hillary is trying to "smoke" Obama AND THE PUBLIC.
She should "smoke" a Lawenskeeeee instead, ~~~ like hubby BILL did.
We don't need or want the Clinton administration back again.
Obama should point out that Hillary is saying he is "completely useless" to us as a President YET "useFULL" as a VP.
SHE NEEDS HIM TO PUSH HER CART AROUND... DAHHHHHHHH
Just like she takes credit for "portions" of the good of the Clinton admin. but "not" take credit for the "LACK OF SUCCESS of the Clinton campaigne.
I think Hillary would say try or do ANYTHING to be the FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT.
She is full of ~~~~.
I hope Obama nails her and the old man McCain or is it Mc "CANE". HE already needs one.

George W. Bush has plenty of experience being president.
What good has it done? He is one of the worst presidents in history.
The experience issue is not important.
Barack Obama speaks the truth.
Only a fool or a criminal can argue against it.

It just goes to shows that the Clinton camp will go to any depths to win the ticket. I doubt if Barack will take a VP role and probably will quit politics after this is over if he dosen't win the ticket. Frankly America would have lost a great candidate who was looking to bring the country together. Bill wants Hillary in the White house so he can have a good time when he was in the White house. The Clintons just like attention and looks like the people of America have forgotten the fact the Bill was looking at ways in the constitution to be a President well past his 8 year term. Do I have to say more. People who has smelled power cannot keep out of it and the Clintons are a great example for history.

I wonder how many Hillary supporters in these comments are actually Republicans feebly trying to game the system?

Barack will sweep to victory and along with him will come a Democratic supermajority that will finally put to rest the mouldering remains of Reagan and Bush.

For all of you who think Hillary is sleazy and will say anything to get elected... Just wait until the general election... Her "sleaze" will seem like loving kisses compared to what the Republicans will put on the table. It surprises me that so many Obama supporters keep crying foul anytime someone questions his readyness to be president. It is a legitimate question and should be addressed before electing him to that office. The last eight years have demonstrated the damage lack of experiece can entail. As a nation, we should pay this and other questions the serious attention they deserve for both candidates.

History may be doomed to repeat itself. For my kids sake I hope not, but with the choices available for President, you would think that as the world power of today, we could push someone to the front that could actually lead the USA for the next 4 years. Not settling for what the parties have put forth.

I can't see the harm in talking about a second; it actually makes sense to portray yourself as the winner at this point in the race. (It is sound strategy) They are virtually the same candidate as far as the issues go. If either goes into the general election talking about experience the McCain wins hands down.

I consider myself an undecided voter and neither Barak Hussein Obama or Hillary Rodham Clinton or John McCain has impressed me. I have listened to the debates and both democrats say a lot about nothing. I will say this though I maid quite a bit more money when there was a Clinton in office, SO I know she will have good people working on the current economic woes we are going through.

Did she really think that people would be dumb enough,
that they couldn't see what was blatantly obvious?

That is so incredibly lame...

Obama is just a pawn for the republican party and the national media....and the dems are buying it hook, line and sinker. Open you eyes Obama and his followers. They will win if you don't wake up.

Bill Clinton for VP!!

#40

SLEEPING IN THE SAME BED AS THE PRESIDENT ISN"T EXPERIENCE!!!!!

If Mr. Obama and his supporters are so hateful of Hillary, how is Mr Obama going to unite the democratic party let alone the entire country. From reading the entire dialogue, it appears that the supporters of Mr. Obama just hate anything that does not appreciate their candidate

Hilary says that the delegate count is what matters... Then Obama won Nevada, he got more delegates, and he wins Texas, he got more delegates.

Hilary is about politics of personal ambition. That is her only concern. Her own personal ambition and nothing else. She isn't concerned about bringing this divided country together, just about herself and her personal ambition. POLITICS OF PERSONAL AMBITION!!

The media are giving her a free pass! Why aren't they investigating and publishing upcoming charges against her?? Peter Paul is suing the Clintons for fraud and she stands to be tried for fundraising fraud. She had firsthand knowledge of fundraising in her Senate campaign, Peter Paul has video taped evidence, and it is all being hushed up. Could this be why the Repubs want to run against Hilary. I think so!!

Hillary - you are so desperate to win. You will say anything.
This is not about the American people. This is about Hillary.
Obama we need you. You stand for getting RID of this kind of politics - Hillary-tics.

The man does NOT deserve the job. After months of listening to both sides yammer on about who will do best in the office, it comes down to this for me. No one knows what kind of president anyone will be. Only after the fact, can we truly know if we got a winner or a Bush. But after thinking it ove,r I have to say that I don't thinki Obama deserves the job. He just hasn't put in the time or effort.

I will be delighted to see Clinton as President and Obama as Vice-President. This will be like my dream come true.

As pointed out by the press, this campaign is the largest and perhaps the first experience the three candidates have had to show leadership in their own campaign organization.
McCain nearly self destructed without help from anyone.
Clinton was the presumptive nominee with such a large lead on the field of all other candidates a year ago that it appeared that the primary campaign was going to be a step toward her coronation. Somehow, her leadership skills are such that she has found a way to be so inept as to lose that insurmountable lead, which by the way, the only one in recent memory who is so inept is the sitting President.
From no where, Barack Obama, the senator who was 99th in seniority in the Senate, builds the most effective campaign in history. He raises more money than anyone and sets records in that regards. He fills every auditorium he speaks at to share his vision of hope. Would anyone believe that these record numbers or voters and participation in the primary elections would have occurred without his presence?
Based on what we can see----here and now, the question is: Who is the best leader for this country? John McCain? Hillary Clinton? Barack Obama? The answer is self evident.

As pointed out by the press, this campaign is the largest and perhaps the first experience the three candidates have had to show leadership in their own campaign organization.
McCain nearly self destructed without help from anyone.
Clinton was the presumptive nominee with such a large lead on the field of all other candidates a year ago that it appeared that the primary campaign was going to be a step toward her coronation. Somehow, her leadership skills are such that she has found a way to be so inept as to lose that insurmountable lead, which by the way, the only one in recent memory who is so inept is the sitting President.
From no where, Barack Obama, the senator who was 99th in seniority in the Senate, builds the most effective campaign in history. He raises more money than anyone and sets records in that regards. He fills every auditorium he speaks at to share his vision of hope. Would anyone believe that these record numbers or voters and participation in the primary elections would have occurred without his presence?
Based on what we can see----here and now, the question is: Who is the best leader for this country? John McCain? Hillary Clinton? Barack Obama? The answer is self evident.

I think some of the negative responses from Obama supporters are based on emotion, not logic. Hillary Clinton is speaking positively of the notion of a "dream ticket," a woman and black man as the next leaders of the United States of America. Why is that bad? This could be one of the greatest things we see in politics in our lifetime. The negative responses simply are a reaction to her suggestion that she would be the president and Obama the VP. What else do you think she would say? Of course she believes she's the best candidate; that's why she's running for President. I think some Obama supporters are overreacting and if they paused to think about what a great idea the "dream ticket" would be, two qualified individuals in the White House, they wouldn't attack the idea or the person suggesting it.

HOW DEAR THEM.....!!! Just how stupid and uneducated do they think the American public is????? Across this country the vast majority of Americans have shown the Clinton camp just who they are supporting and Why they are doing so... What makes the Clintons think that they have entitlement over the democratic process. Well, this is a very dangerous game they are playing; most of the people I come in contact with would rather vote for a Republican candidate should the Clinton Hoodwink work.

The American Democratic Voters need to speak up and not allow the wool to squeeze their eyeballs out yet again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is a shame that Senator Obama would not consider it an honor to be vice president, well would you expect from someone who is married to a person who stated that they were not proud of their county. This is not a dreamer's world. This is not an author's world, this is the real world. Get real Obama.

Offer Bill Clinton the VP slot, the experience they combined should be unbeatable.

It is apparent how desperate Hillary and Bill want to get back to the White House. For Hillary, is it the cutlery and drapery? Are the ones you carted away faded or lost? For Bill is it the new interns? I am waiting for Jones and Lewinsky to get into this campaignl. Will Ms. Clinton cover up for you again.

Barack is the idiot. Hillary is playing him and he is taking the bait. They have no intention of taking him on as a VP. They are trying to throw him off his game and they are succeeding. He is such a butt head to take the bait and try to refute the comments. He spends less time getting out his message, what little there is. This is why I will not vote for him. He is too young, inexperience, naive, and unfocused.
We do not need this guy in the White House at all!

Hillary Clinton is simply riding Barack Obama, she is going on about wanting Obama as a VP while in the south where Obama is strong in disenfranchised black communities. When it's time to do battle again, she'll have nothing of the sort.
Political gamesmanship pure and simple!

Exactly the kind of response that is needed to deflate Clinton tactics.

From "Head of State"

http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/03/how-obama-can-win.html

"Saturday, March 08, 2008

How Obama Can Win and Win Strong

I am aware of the delegate math.

I know that, unless the Clinton team runs roughshod with regard to superdelegates, the numbers are unassailable.

However, for Obama to not only win, but to win strong, and thus to be in the best position for the general, he must step outside of the box created when Clinton tactics were applied to his own admirable stance.

By declaring himself the candidate of the new politics, putting the politics of Rove et al. aside for a politics of honesty, straight-forward decency, and strength, he has putatively left the field open for Clinton et al. to lob innuendo after innuendo. If he responds, he is in violation of his commitment to the new; if he continues with his current path of non-response, he will be taken down by a series of attacks, that however false or fantastic, will eventually raises doubts in the mind of the electorate as to the validity of his new politics, and will, in the great viscera of the electorate, so responsive and so easily changed, appear "weak."

If he attacks, it is said, he betrays himself; if he continues on the same path, he is whittled down by rumor and insinuation.

Clinton's current strength is her ability to attack, however true the nature and content of the attacks. Obama must turn this very behavior into its own negative. To do so, Obama must relentlessly name what she is doing and anchor it--calling for an "end to the era of 'kitchen sink' politics, i.e.:

"It's about time that we left the era of "kitchen sink" politics, of distortion and insinuation, behind us. We have all seen it before this--a period where it was often difficult to tell falsehood, rumor, and misinformation from truth. It was this type of politics that contributed to a war in which we have lost the best of our national treasure, our nation's men and women. It is this type of politics that our opponents not so long ago decried. And it is this type of politics that, more than anything else, signals weakness--the inability to base one's statements and actions on the firm ground of truth, on our collective and honest dedication to the construction of a new and positive future--and instead, on a retreat into the politics of personal destruction.

It's time to take out the dirty dishes; It's time to empty the kitchen sink. After an era where it was often difficult to distinguish fantasy from truth, it's time to put that era behind us, to base our future efforts on a strong and honest desire to build a new and better future."

What Obama can create is his own "There you go again" moment--one that will both define Clinton (after all, someone has to do it), and place the Clinton camp in their very own box, of their own making: A box where any attack will immediately be associated in the voter's mind, and will be accompanied by a roll of the voter's eyes, as another example of Clinton's "kitchen sink" politics--of the chaotic, inconsistent, contradictory and frantic willingness to say or do anything to be elected, be it the changing of one's personality, tone, degree of honesty--or one's degree of tolerance or gusto for the politics of personal destruction.

Without a single attack, this demonstrates the nature of the Clinton camp: in a moment of crisis, and in danger of loss, rather than respond with strength, principle and authority, they throw the "kitchen sink" at the issue, abandoning principles and frantically strewing innuendo as they do so.

With powerful moral force, it names exactly what the Clinton camp is doing, and anchors it both to the politics of the past Administration, and to the very political tactics that Clinton herself has denounced and disavowed. It provides direct evidence--thus far, the only direct evidence--of how a Clinton Administration would likely govern in times of chaos, crisis, and other "3 a.m. moments" (thus disempowering her already shaky claims to superior foreign policy judgment): With a "kitchen sink" approach of tumultuous, changing, disorganized and contradictory attack, rather than with consistent purpose and moral authority.

Obama must persistently name what the Clinton camp is doing rather than complain, and he must then link it to the very essence of an old politics that has been lived through by all of us, and denigrated by most, over the past 8 years.

Thus named, and thus defined, Obama can then invite Clinton up to the higher ground--to a debate based on policy and principle--or she can choose to stay in the box that she and her camp have created.

Cite:

Head of State

Head of State

http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/03/how-obama-can-win.html

OBAMA DOES NOT HAVE THE BACKBONE TO BE PRESIDENT OR VICE PRESIDENT.HE JUST BLEW HIS CHANCE,UNLESS HE IS GOING TO HOODWINK THE VOTERS AND CHANGE HIS MIND.

Seems to me that this shows that Obama is too selfish to consider unifying the Democratic Party. Perhaps that's a result of the fact that he gets much of his support from Repubs and Indies, and not solid Democrats.

BOTH Clintons are in favor of a "dream ticket". Bill,you should be ashamed of yourself.
Using your wife to impose on us some more of your days in office and perhaps more cigar stories.
Shame on you,Bill.
Typical male using a woman to get HIS needs met.
It is a "CLINTON""""SSSSS" (plural) campaigne.
Ya'll need to take a cruise or something.
Let America get on its feet and come back in 8 years.

Wow, another Clinton strategy falls flat on its ugly face! I'm glad Senator Obama responded and laid this to rest. Senator Obama has shown Senator Clinton a lot of respect by not stooping to her level of lies, deception and hate. Can you imagine the way she would treat the Obama family in the White House? For Senator Obama it would be like "Driving Ms. Daisy."
To suggest Senator Obama as her VP and he's in the lead, is very deceiving. Shame on you Hillary! I didn't expect more from you though. HA!
One last thing. Senator Clinton brings out the worse in people. She makes the racists feel good about themselves and she is divisive. She doesn't mind using people to get what she wants. Senator Obama brings out the best in people and reaches out to all people. You can't beat a person with that kind of character and integrity. Thank you, Senator Obama for giving me more Latino, white, black, and asian friends. Thank you for inspiring my 2 young adult children. YES WE CAN!

This comment is ridiculous. Learn a lot as VP? The only time VPs have done anything is now with Dick Cheney who holds Bush's leash. The VP is just there for sudden death of the President and to sit in on Senate meetings. The VP really is a worthless position and if you look at the constitution only contains a small paragraph of so-called "duties". Besides good for him for standing up for himself. McCain and Clinton say all he brings is hope for change. Well what are you 2 running for? Isnt this what running for President is about? Changing the current situation and bettering the American way of life. Obama's charismatic personality and ideas for change make hima very strong candidate. Change? Why dont McCain and Clinton look up the meaning and start prposing change.

Comment # 22 I am 100% behind a joint ticket idea. They may be at each other's throats, but the combination of intelligence and charisma is too good for the democratic party to pass up. In addition, I like the idea that they don't see eye to eye on everything. That, alone, provides the best opportunity for the American people to get the best possible solutions. Obama is not the best presidential material and could learn a lot in the VP shoes. The best combinatin: Hillary agrees to one term as pres, guaranteeing the dems get the office for 12 years - providing no one makes any stupid mistakes.

This comment is ridiculous. Learn a lot as VP? The only time VPs have done anything is now with Dick Cheney who holds Bush's leash. The VP is just there for sudden death of the President and to sit in on Senate meetings. The VP really is a worthless position and if you look at the constitution only contains a small paragraph of so-called "duties". Besides good for him for standing up for himself. McCain and Clinton say all he brings is hope for change. Well what are you 2 running for? Isnt this what running for President is about? Changing the current situation and bettering the American way of life. Obama's charismatic personality and ideas for change make hima very strong candidate. Change? Why dont McCain and Clinton look up the meaning and start prposing change.

Barack is the idiot. Hillary is playing him and he is taking the bait. They have no intention of taking him on as a VP. They are trying to throw him off his game and they are succeeding. He is such a butt head to take the bait and try to refute the comments. He spends less time getting out his message, what little there is. This is why I will not vote for him. He is too young, inexperience, naive, and unfocused.
We do not need this guy in the White House at all!

I hope to hear more from Obama in this same firm tone. I swear you give the Clintons an inch they snatch a mile.

Jacksmith must be tired posting the same cut and paste text on all of these websites. Poor Hillary Troll. The truth will be revealed about Hillary. All in good time, my friends, all in good time.

Hillary and Bill play gutter ball. Everything Hillary has done in this campaign has shown that her own self-interest is her only concern. She has basically said to heck with the Democratic party, and to heck with the American people for that matter. Why in the world would it be any different if she was president? This is all about her.

Hillary IS a monster and I for one was relieved for someone to finally call her that. She will do absolutely anything to win. I hope Obama will continue to powerfully and clearly draw the distinctions between his smart campaign that plays fair and her campaign that uses all of its smarts to play dirty. IF (heaven forbid) HIllary were to win the nomination and offer Obama the vice presidency, he should decline. He does not need to be associated with the repugnant Clinton machine.

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Remember people, a "dream ticket" would not be just the sum of their positives, it would also be the sum of their negatives. There are plenty of other *more* experienced folks out their that can serve as Obama's VP. Kathleen Sibelius and Janet Napolitano are two that come to mind.

I am not a Big Obama fan but do you really want Hillary as Pres?...

HISTORY LESSON ON HILLARY

The entire list below represents historical facts that are not in dispute anywhere.

So let's think about the logic of those who would consider, even for a moment, bringing anyone associated with the Clintons back into the White House-----especially Hillary.

The Clintons have been telling America that Hillary is the most qualified candidate for president based on her record,' which they say includes her eight years in the White House as First Lady - or "co-president" - and her seven years in the Senate.

In fact, in his stump speeches, Bill Clinton goes so far as to marvel at his wife's "genius" and repeatedly claims that he never made a major policy, legislative or political decision without consulting her during that 1st Clinton Administration.

So here is a PARTIAL list of her accomplishments, activities, and behavior during the past 15 years since they first ran for President in 1992:

1) As First Lady, Hillary assumed authority over Health Care Reform, process that cost the taxpayers over $13 million. She told both Bill Bradley and Pat Moynahan, key votes needed to pass her legislation, that she would 'demonize' anyone who opposed it. But it was opposed; she couldn't even get it to a vote in a Congress controlled by her own party. (And in the next election, her party lost control of both the House and Senate.)

2) Hillary also assumed authority over selecting a female Attorney General. Her first two recommendations (Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood) were forced to withdraw their names from consideration, and then she chose Janet Reno.
The same Janet Reno has since been described by Bill himself as 'my worst mistake.'

3) Hillary was also the person who recommended Lani Guanier for head of the Civil Rights Commission. When Guanier's radical views became known, her name had to be withdrawn....need more?

4) Hillary recommended three of her former law partners for Administration jobs: Web Hubbell, Vince Foster, and William Kennedy for positions in the Justice Department, White House staff, and the Treasury Dept., respectively.
Hubbell was later imprisoned, Foster allegedly committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to
resign.

5) Hillary also recommended a close friend of the Clintons, Craig Livingstone, for the position of director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of up to 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, both Hillary and her husband denied knowing him. (FBI
agent Dennis Sculimbrene later confirmed in a 1996 Senate Judiciary Committee hearing both the drug use and Hillary' s involvement in hiring Livingstone.
As a result, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office, which had previously served seven presidents for over thirty years without any such incident.)

6) In order to open 'slots' in the White House for her friends the Harry Thomasons (to whom millions of dollars in travel contracts could be awarded), Hillary had the entire staff of the White House Travel Office fired; they were reported to the FBI for gross mismanagement' and their reputations ruined. After a thirty-month investigation, only one, Billy Dale, was charged with a crime - mixing personal money with White House funds when he cashed checks. The jury acquitted him in less than two hours.

7) Another of Hillary's assumed duties was directing the "bimbo eruption squad" and scandal defense. How competently did she perform? Just follow these dots:
She is the one who urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. She also stubbornly refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill's lying about and later admitting the affair.
Then they had to settle with Paula Jones after all.
And Bill lost his law license for lying to the grand jury.
And Bill was impeached by the House.
And Hillary almost got herself indicted for perjury and obstruction of justice. She avoided it mostly because she repeated, 'I do not recall,' 'I have no recollection,' and 'I don't know' 56 times
under oath.

8) Hillary wrote 'It Takes a Village,' demonstrating her Socialist viewpoint.

9) Hillary decided to seek election to the Senate in a state where she had never lived. Her husband pardoned FALN terrorists in order to get
Latino support and the New Square Hassidim to get Jewish support. Hillary also had Bill pardon her brother's clients, for a small fee, to get financial support.

10) In the campaign for the Senate, Hillary played the "gender card" by portraying her opponent (Lazio) as a bully picking on a poor woman.

11) Hillary's husband further protected her by asking the National Archives to withhold from the public until 2012 many records of their time in the White House, including much of Hillary's correspondence and her calendars. (There are ongoing lawsuits to force the release of those records.)

12) As a Senator from New York, Hillary has passed no major legislation. She has deferred to the senior Senator (Schumer) to tend to the needs of New Yorkers, even on the hot issue of medical problems of workers involved in the cleanup of Ground Zero after 9/11.

13) Hillary's one notable vote, supporting the plan to invade Iraq, she has since disavowed.

Again, all above are facts that are not in dispute. Together they paint a picture of a distburbing pattern of manipulation, deceipt, and bad judgement that her conduct of this campaign confirms, yet grossly understates.

I am not a Big Obama fan but do you really want Hillary as Pres?...

HISTORY LESSON ON HILLARY

The entire list below represents historical facts that are not in dispute anywhere.

So let's think about the logic of those who would consider, even for a moment, bringing anyone associated with the Clintons back into the White House-----especially Hillary.

The Clintons have been telling America that Hillary is the most qualified candidate for president based on her record,' which they say includes her eight years in the White House as First Lady - or "co-president" - and her seven years in the Senate.

In fact, in his stump speeches, Bill Clinton goes so far as to marvel at his wife's "genius" and repeatedly claims that he never made a major policy, legislative or political decision without consulting her during that 1st Clinton Administration.

So here is a PARTIAL list of her accomplishments, activities, and behavior during the past 15 years since they first ran for President in 1992:

1) As First Lady, Hillary assumed authority over Health Care Reform, process that cost the taxpayers over $13 million. She told both Bill Bradley and Pat Moynahan, key votes needed to pass her legislation, that she would 'demonize' anyone who opposed it. But it was opposed; she couldn't even get it to a vote in a Congress controlled by her own party. (And in the next election, her party lost control of both the House and Senate.)

2) Hillary also assumed authority over selecting a female Attorney General. Her first two recommendations (Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood) were forced to withdraw their names from consideration, and then she chose Janet Reno.
The same Janet Reno has since been described by Bill himself as 'my worst mistake.'

3) Hillary was also the person who recommended Lani Guanier for head of the Civil Rights Commission. When Guanier's radical views became known, her name had to be withdrawn....need more?

4) Hillary recommended three of her former law partners for Administration jobs: Web Hubbell, Vince Foster, and William Kennedy for positions in the Justice Department, White House staff, and the Treasury Dept., respectively.
Hubbell was later imprisoned, Foster allegedly committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to
resign.

5) Hillary also recommended a close friend of the Clintons, Craig Livingstone, for the position of director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of up to 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, both Hillary and her husband denied knowing him. (FBI
agent Dennis Sculimbrene later confirmed in a 1996 Senate Judiciary Committee hearing both the drug use and Hillary' s involvement in hiring Livingstone.
As a result, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office, which had previously served seven presidents for over thirty years without any such incident.)

6) In order to open 'slots' in the White House for her friends the Harry Thomasons (to whom millions of dollars in travel contracts could be awarded), Hillary had the entire staff of the White House Travel Office fired; they were reported to the FBI for gross mismanagement' and their reputations ruined. After a thirty-month investigation, only one, Billy Dale, was charged with a crime - mixing personal money with White House funds when he cashed checks. The jury acquitted him in less than two hours.

7) Another of Hillary's assumed duties was directing the "bimbo eruption squad" and scandal defense. How competently did she perform? Just follow these dots:
She is the one who urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. She also stubbornly refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill's lying about and later admitting the affair.
Then they had to settle with Paula Jones after all.
And Bill lost his law license for lying to the grand jury.
And Bill was impeached by the House.
And Hillary almost got herself indicted for perjury and obstruction of justice. She avoided it mostly because she repeated, 'I do not recall,' 'I have no recollection,' and 'I don't know' 56 times
under oath.

8) Hillary wrote 'It Takes a Village,' demonstrating her Socialist viewpoint.

9) Hillary decided to seek election to the Senate in a state where she had never lived. Her husband pardoned FALN terrorists in order to get
Latino support and the New Square Hassidim to get Jewish support. Hillary also had Bill pardon her brother's clients, for a small fee, to get financial support.

10) In the campaign for the Senate, Hillary played the "gender card" by portraying her opponent (Lazio) as a bully picking on a poor woman.

11) Hillary's husband further protected her by asking the National Archives to withhold from the public until 2012 many records of their time in the White House, including much of Hillary's correspondence and her calendars. (There are ongoing lawsuits to force the release of those records.)

12) As a Senator from New York, Hillary has passed no major legislation. She has deferred to the senior Senator (Schumer) to tend to the needs of New Yorkers, even on the hot issue of medical problems of workers involved in the cleanup of Ground Zero after 9/11.

13) Hillary's one notable vote, supporting the plan to invade Iraq, she has since disavowed.

Again, all above are facts that are not in dispute. Together they paint a picture of a distburbing pattern of manipulation, deceipt, and bad judgement that her conduct of this campaign confirms, yet grossly understates.

We will not be fooled by the Clintons! They are nasty, treacherous old school politicians. There is no stopping our man! Barack Hussein Obama for president!! Praise be Allah.

We in the Muslim community will work hard and ensure that Obama is elected. It is the will of Allah, praised be His Name. Only with a strong leader in the US, can good relations be established with the Muslim world. With Obama in charge, Islam will become greatly tolerated in America and there will be peace. It is the first and important step in converting our great country into an Islamic state.

John Jay:
Sipping a little Clinton Kool Aid are we?
Look, first of all, most of the polls after every primary has shown she has more unfairly attacked Obama than vice versa. To me it's very clear. In fact, he's getting criticism for not going back at her. Have you been paying attention? During the run-up for Ohio she started comparing him to Bush, then red-faced told him "Shame on you" for the Nafta flyers that didn't sound too off the wall, and she's been much more negative in like every primary... It's not worth arguing about.
She more than him has tried to create this kind of hatred between democrats about dividing the party. I blame her. He's tried hard to be unifying in his message, and they have this SPIN angle to everything.

Think about it... Every state he wins, they ignore, don't congratulate, even put down. After 11 states lost, she wins a state she was supposed to win, HAD to win, by 10 points, and all of a sudden they spin that he should be the VP. Obama's been killing her for all of February. I don't blame her for staying in.

The reason he HAD to respond to this spin is because it's dismissive and taunting really to say that the guy who's in the lead, who has won 13 out of the last 16 contests (and Texas is a split) should be my VP. And oh, by the way, you're not ready to be president, which is a huge part of being the VP. The point is that she doesn't make sense and you have to choose one or the other - either you don't respect Obama and he's not ready, or you want him to be VP you think that highly of him... Why are people so stupid?

And all politicians have an ego. He's been so likeable because his ego isn't as big as some others, like Hillary. She's the one that's trying to do anything to win, even putting down the LIKELY democratic nominee in comparison to McCain... That's just stupid. It won't work out well... My guess is that they think that might help him lose, but if it does, not everyone will back her with this line of attack. If he wins, maybe he won't win the general election, which would be awful for democrats, but maybe she's that scheming where she would want to run in 2012, but we'll all remember still. Doesn't make sense, and flows from their flawed campaign where they haven't had a consistent theme or tone or message.

And don't talk about his wife... I have stronger words for you but will save them here. She seems great and but for a slip of the tongue, she'll make a great first lady. I'm sorry but you're wrong on every point from my standpt. But at least we know who you're voting for right now...

Hillary has no executive experience and she lacks the temperament to manage people.

Her abject failure to enact any healthcare reform--given Bill Clinton's mandate in 1992-93--demonstrates these points.

Her audacious comments regarding her "lifetime" of experience and concommitant denigration of Barack Obama's experience place her in the same category as Joe LIEberman. She should be booted from the Democratic Party.

After much research, soul-searching and actually listening to what both candidates have to say and what their actual legislative records show, I decided to vote for Hillary. I had to take off the blinders of opinion polls, media spin and excitement and remember what this race is really about: Hiring someone to do the toughest and,arguably, most important job on the planet. Being President of the US isn't about speeches, promises and fluff - it is about who I believe will get up, everyday, and work their butt off for me and every other hardworking American. That person is Senator Clinton. She has been thru many tribulations, tests, and challenges in her life and like the Energizer Bunny, just keeps going and going. Where she gets the energy and conviction, I wish I knew. Think what each of us could do in our own lives and communities with just an ounce of her strength!

Once you cut through all the media, opinions, "polls" (I can have my own poll, they don't mean much) and put their two resumes on the table and see what they have done and why we should beleive them way they say they will do....it is obvious to me that Hillary is the stronger choice. Period.

After much research, soul-searching and actually listening to what both candidates have to say and what their actual legislative records show, I decided to vote for Hillary. I had to take off the blinders of opinion polls, media spin and excitement and remember what this race is really about: Hiring someone to do the toughest and,arguably, most important job on the planet. Being President of the US isn't about speeches, promises and fluff - it is about who I believe will get up, everyday, and work their butt off for me and every other hardworking American. That person is Senator Clinton. She has been thru many tribulations, tests, and challenges in her life and like the Energizer Bunny, just keeps going and going. Where she gets the energy and conviction, I wish I knew. Think what each of us could do in our own lives and communities with just an ounce of her strength!

Once you cut through all the media, opinions, "polls" (I can have my own poll, they don't mean much) and put their two resumes on the table and see what they have done and why we should beleive them way they say they will do....it is obvious to me that Hillary is the stronger choice. Period.

If Obama were VP Hillary would be having him rent out the Lincoln Room and cleaning toilets.

Obama may be running to be president but he is NOT QUALIFIED to be president. I agree. Hillary and Bill should NEVER have said he should be V.P. I don't think Hillary should pick him for any position in her cabinet!!! He is a total naive, inexperienced, arrogant, cocky, conceited rookie!!! He's not fit to be president of a company, much less America!!

Obama will be in for a big surprise when Hillary is electing President of the United States!!!! He might just be sorry he didn't take up Hillary's offer for the V.P. slot, after all!!! LOL!!)

All of you arguing...really...do you not understand "politics" do you?

Even Mr. Obama will eventually start attacking...wait...hasn't he already? Yeah. And he'll have to step up the attacks when he's battling McCain for the white house.

People screaming, dirty, slezy, etc... guess what? That is what politics are about. And not even Mr. Obama will change this...you can't change human nature.

It is unfortunate to see that Hillary is trying this tactic. She should remain strong and to her convictions. Plain & simple, she's got experience and panache.
She has the health care deal down, she's got the global diplomacy (not just from being a first lady but) from being a tough senator. She will end the war in Iraq while comabting terrorism.

She stands tough on this stuff while Obama holds revivals and people are "falling". He did one right thing as a freshman senator - voted no on the war. But what else has he done and for that matter, really what else will he do?

He needs experience. Mr. Obama, vice presidency is nothing like Presidency....it is however, a grooming postion to become president.

If he doesn't stop holding revival meetings and he becomes president, we will all be screwed.

I believe he is a good & decent man, but I also believe is naive with foriegn affairs and gullible. He's not ready to be president. In 4-8 years, it may be a different story. Right now, he's got to separate his gospel cadence at these conferences for some noteworthy substance to what he will do. He should be thankful that Hillary is entertaining the idea, should he lose the nomination.

You know, it's funny to hear people talk about Obama and his convictions. His "change" and what lies ahead if he is voted in office.
Well, what exactly is he selling here?
What is this "change?"

I've heard, nor read anything that about his course of action.. Anything about what he is going to change, that is anymore that Clinton is going to change.

I'm for either one getting into office. But there seems to be alot of blind eyes, and shouldering going on.

Why is voting in america just like highschool in america? I mean come on, are we this shallow... and arrogant.

Our nominees should work for us for a change.... If there is no one running that we aprove of we should demand for more to step forward.

Trust me there is someone out there that will get the job done, and that person may not have the millions to put into a "popularity contest" none the less that person is out there.

I'm voting for change in the american people, not change in dipolmacy.

It's laughable to see us all fight, and bicker about these two canadites, when we just went through 8 years of one of the worst presidents to date.

Heres to us!
Lets hope we actualy make a difference this time.
Lets hope for the future. may it be brighter, and more educated than today.
Cheers voters!

I agree that it is about time Mr. Obama spoke out . The nerve of Bill and Hillary Clinton, to assume that she is entitled to the nomination. And even if she is what makes her think that Mr. Obama would want to be her running mate? I am so tired of seeing and hearing the Clintons, the Clintons, the Clintons!! Who is running for office, what is this a two for one sale? It appears that no matter who become her running mate if Hillary Clinton becomes President that person will be the number three person in line . First Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and whoever. Way to go Mr. Obama., do this on your terms defend don't offend. Remain as you are second to none.

I find allot of this very very silly. I am an independand but a big time political junkey. Why doesn't anyone in the Democratic party ever look at who would win in the electoral college rather than that popularity poll? How it sits right now: McCain (229) v Obama (245) with 64 swingelectoral college votes. McCain 286 v Clinton 172 with 80 swing electoral college votes. Basically I took what the polls for each
state said in those articles and if the difference between 2 candidates was 4% or less I did not give it to anyone. You can find the raw data here, and it could change by november but still very intersting.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/
election_20082/2008_presidential_election/
election_2008_electoral_college_update

seems to me neither of the two are competant to be the leader of the free world. Look for alterior motives. both candidates are on a self fulfilling prophecy.

As an independent I have been wooing for Obama, chiefly on the basis of his integrity, political platform and clean campaign and debate mannerism. His opponent reminds me of Third World countries where politicians tend lanch personal attacks against their opponents instead of focusing on the issues/concerns at hand.
Obama is the catalyst that this country needs to help us regain the respect we once enjoyed under our late and beloved President Reagan...talk to the enemy and get into their heads...know what they are thinking...tell them what you expect and stand by it.
I am yet to be convinced of all the good things Bill Clinton has done to the benefit of all people during his presidency...Our current president, despite his shortcomings more of an inclusive administration than Bill or any other administrations...Obama stikes me as the next president to be even more inclusive.
How impartial was Clinton's presidency in dealing with world conflicts... why did't he do something to stop the Rwanda genocide, as he did in Cosovo....Has the Bush administration (irrespective of Iraq) done more,impartially, to kelp protect the voiceless, vulnerable...?

Wake up everyone. The Clintons are the most corrupt political power players in America. Once again, Hillary and Billary are proving themselves to be political manipulators of the highest order. Ready to say and do anything to achieve their return to power. Why don’t we the electorate insist that Hillary prove her exorbitant claims about her vast experience? Hillary release your tax records and get Billary to release his White House papers. That would be a good start, and while you are at it come clean about your involvement in the White Water Savings and Loan scandal.

Let us look at the real story here. The unvarnished truth. And then we can decide if Obama should be President or Vice President (presumptive presidency later).

Obama has no experience in working the levers of government. The man has not held a single 'real' meeting on the Foreign Services Committee, and saying it's because he has been campaigning for president shows just how inexperienced he really is.

Obama's economic policy says lets stop the war, then use the money that would pay for the war and use it on a spending package that builds jobs, and rebuilds infrastructure. However, there is one small problem with this, that money is being BORROWED. Hillary says lets just roll back those tax breaks for the rich and use that money NO BORROWING!

Hillary says lets top the war, roll back the taxes and then we can work towards balancing the budget. Oh, did Obama forget that 'balancing the budget' thing? Here is a problem with Obama that cannot be reconciled at this time. He keeps forgetting that we are 9.2 Trillion (that's Trillion with a T) in debt and cannot afford to borrow any more.

For people that say the press is pro-Clinton, they have not read the real truth about that. Clinton gets less press and far less coverage on real policy issues. Thus she needs to make each and every news story count. If you don't believe me. Go look it up yourself. If you listen carefully, you will notice lots of pantsuit remarks etc, (even from the progressive and liberal media). If the progressive talk show people are hammering Clinton on her attire instead of policy items because there is a silly sexist trend in this country that cannot be ignored. I really do hope you will look this up. You will be blown away by what you find.

Finally, when all is said and done, the red states have been voting Obama (he wins them hands down), and the blue states (especially big states) have been going to Clinton, you cannot win the Presidency without those big blue states. I looked at some possible outcomes for the Presidency, and Obama is not expected to win Florida and New Jersey. What's with that?!?!? And he is expected to win Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, Oregon and Washington states?!?!? I highly doubt he can do that. Even the DNC doubts that. Obama may be winning states like Alabama in the primary, but he will be guaranteed to loose Alabama in the general election (southern strategy, remember?)

So it's time to wake up and rub the sleep from your eyes you beautiful Obama supporters. We do need to stop trying to divide the democratic vote by playing Clinton basher and realize that she will win big states and enough small states to take the general election. And, with Obama is a Vice Presidential name on the ticket, they can both have their cake and eat it too.

Wake up everyone. The Clintons are the most corrupt political power players in America. Once again, Hillary and Billary are proving themselves to be political manipulators of the highest order. Ready to say and do anything to achieve their return to power. Why don’t we the electorate insist that Hillary prove her exorbitant claims about her vast experience? Hillary release your tax records and get Billary to release his White House papers. That would be a good start, and while you are at it come clean about your involvement in the White Water Savings and Loan scandal.

Wow, another Clinton strategy falls flat on its ugly face! I'm glad Senator Obama responded and laid this to rest. Senator Obama has shown Senator Clinton a lot of respect by not stooping to her level of lies, deception and hate. Can you imagine the way she would treat the Obama family in the White House? For Senator Obama it would be like "Driving Ms. Daisy."
To suggest Senator Obama as her VP and he's in the lead, is very deceiving. Shame on you Hillary! I didn't expect more from you though. HA!
One last thing. Senator Clinton brings out the worse in people. She makes the racists feel good about themselves and she is divisive. She doesn't mind using people to get what she wants. Senator Obama brings out the best in people and reaches out to all people. You can't beat a person with that kind of character and integrity. Thank you, Senator Obama for giving me more Latino, white, black, and asian friends. Thank you for inspiring my 2 young adult children. YES WE CAN!

You're all idiots!!! Vote for Nader. Neither McCain, Clinton, or Obama give a rats a** about you or I or the "average" American. We need less politicians and government so we can actually get out of national debt and help this country take care of its own, instead of these power hungry politicians who only care about supporting giant corporations.

Mr. Clinton want to re-elect himself by proxy using wife Hilary Clinton,
Is he trying to imitate communist dictator Fidel Castro?

Do we want a monarchy or a Dinasty, The Clintons already proof themselves able to have a corruptive enviroment to the point of almost impeachment,
Does the Economy of the USA has space for tax payers to cover the Clinton weakness for Ken Starr issues?

Mrs. Clinton character shows lack of conviction and commitment towards her own party when she prefer a republican to win the presidency instead of Senator Obama,

She has attempted to destroy Senator Obama campaign with multiple inuendos that he is a muslim, She placed a malignant seed of fear in many latino texans minds.

Has America ever thought that perhaps the name hussain or the muslim background from senator obama can help us to have an ambassador to negotiate lower prices for oil in the middle east?

If they are serious about bringing the democratic party together they absolutely should run on the same ticket or we have a very good chance of another 4 years of our current administration. I have heard Obama supporters say they will vote for McCain if Hillary wins the nomination and Hillary supporters say they will vote for McCain if Obama wins the nomination.

Self righteous Obama supporters who fanatically call the Clinton's liars should objectively look at what the Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton have done during their
terms in office. Was the country not more prosperous then? Did Bill not support
African -American issues to the point he was called the first Black president?
Are the so-called lies anywhere near the Republican's' and the current president in office, and were the Clintons not attacked by the Republican right wing machine?
Now self righteous liberals cannot see the attacks that come from their own ranks,
blinded as they are by their elitist egos, and gullible as they are because of a lack of capability for objective analysis. Someday they will see the truth -- Obama's people are employing exactly the same tactics the Clinton people employ. By the way, Clinton can hardly employ dirty tactics on Obama because he is a fellow democrat on the same side of the issues. Just wait till the rightwing attack comes, then these blind liberals will realize what kind of stupidity and blunder they have committed by attacking Hillary ( essentially being on the same side as the Republicans ---as in the enemy of my enemy is my friend). Then when McCain becomes the president they will have 8 more years to get more bitter and frustrated, and continue to be losers and cry babies.

To all your OBAMA lover, he has ZERO experience. Talking about change, he has no idea about about ground realities. It's very easy to talk and that's all there is to the Obama campaign.

Please read your History books, folks. There are several examples in the history of the Democratic Party, when the person (up to now all Men) who came into the convention with the most delegates did NOT receive the nomination. We can argue the ethics of it all we want, but it is not an unprecidented event.

As a democrat if Hillary wins the nomination, I would vote for McCain as to me he is a more straightforward person than Hillary. As much as I liked Bill Clinton, I cannot understand the level to which the Clintons have sunk in their campaign.

Hillary has just spent two weeks "kitchen sinking" Obama, so why would she want such an "unqualified" candidate to be her Veep? She seems to think McCain has better credentials. Why doesn't she ask HIM to be her running mate? She'll say anything to serve her own self-interest, not the interest of the Democratic party, and not the interest of the nation.

The Punch and Judy show continues. Elect either of these two clowns and there goes the country, right down the drain.

It is high time Obama talk and act like a man instead of being a wimp.

This talk is nothing but a preliminary justification for the Clintons to seize the nominations by securing the super delegates votes in backroom politics. Next will be the concept of "for the good of the party" in that Clinton paid her dues in the '90s and the Party needs to keep backroom promises made to her [one of which was the Senatorship of New York], accompanied by the "Divided we fall, Together we win". But the problem is that Clinton needs Obama, that a non-popular vote nomination of Clinton will only lead to discord and the loss of demographic constituencies the Democratic Party needs to beat McCain. Once more a Clinton will advance personal goals over that of the people. Obama does not need Clinton, nor does America. Two candidates are left that are running to lead their country to a better future for the benefit of the people; one candidate is running because she just wants to be President for her own self-aggrandizement.
Congratulations to Senator Obama for not wanting to be a token Vice President, and for pointing out the inconsistency in suggesting he be a vice president because he is not experienced enough to be president.

Given the Clinton tribes history, I would like to know what brand of cigars are in mode right now so as I can send Hillary a box.

"Experience" peddlars take note: George W. Bush has 8 years of experience. Are you really saying this means that GW Bush would be a better president than Barack Obama? Obama doesn't "need" 8 years to prepare to be president any more than George Bush "needs" 8 more years to finally get it right. It's a bad argument--please STOP using it.

The bigger question is: Why are you trying to argue away what could potentially be one of the most revolutionary presidencies in American history? Just because you feel safer with the milk-toast, status quo Washington bickering the Clintons have to offer? America didn't get its greatness by playing it safe, and even a disaster like George Bush can't destroy America's greatness in 8 years. Please stop allowing fear-mongerers to control your vote!

I can understand the democrats who would choose Obama vs. Hillary for their own ideologies, but why would any Republican support Obama?! He doesn't hold a single principle that a typical republican would believe in, so it must be false support to distract dems from voting for Hillary since republicans hate her!

I can excuse the old woman in the DEM party for their ignorance.
One should really be wimp to suport the sleezy Billary.

Neither of them are up to the job. Obama has no experience and Hillary's experience is in lies and deceit.

you people better hope hillary wins because obama's choice for vp is al sharpton.

Barack as vp makes perfect sense to me. Even if he does win the nod and presidency, he's looking at taking over a total mess and with his inexperience and delusional campaign of BS promises, you're looking at Jimmy Carter all over again. As polls have indicated, the majority of Americans - like her or not - know Hillary can get in there an whoop some ass, even if it means making decisions that the far left AND right are going to be grumpy about.

I'm hoping we do see the dream ticket. I see it as 8 years of hillary and hopefully 8 more of Obama once he (and his supporters) wisen up to the reality that there's no such thing as a presidency without politics.

To a future President,

If you wish to beat the Clintons at their game, you have to realize you are being lured into the meek lamb image that surely ends up as lamb chops on her table. Don't let them portray yourself as a fine gentleman and a fresh idea that someday will become a great president. She is baiting you to run a "professional, clean, and traditional gentleman's campaign.." This only works to her unique advantage as she then quarters your being a limb at a time.

You must respond in kind to her attacks if you are to win this contest. If you do not come out and act strong, the American people will perceive you as weak. We all wish the job of politics was a noble, and selfless battle of the minds...you had best start convincing us, and I voted for you in the caucus here in Nevada, that you are able to be aggressive and deliberate in standing up to her garbage, start letting the country know that Bill clinton is the mastermind behind the machine polotics....he will be president again through her....Time is running out, and you let her continue the race with the defeats of you in Texas and Ohio....and I believe because while you were playing the high ground candidate, you became the sacrificial lamb they dined on that sad evening....God be with you, Barack, but look at the history of the Clinton psychology, keep it clean young man, while the super delegates are having their chits called to their cadence....wake up and stand up, don't worry about what America thinks of you, be yourself, fight back with dignity and accuracy....there are tons of issues your staff should be using against her....I believe if you do not get on the aggressive path with her you are going to be bitten at the convention by the Clintonites acting "in the best interest of the party and America.....and overturn your sense of fair play....beat her up once and for all!! Get moving and get aggressive !!!! We love your message....show us you mean it when you say "...yes we can....!!! Gottat be in the White House to do it....jg

I'm not so sure I agree. Regardless of Obama's spin on the issue...was Hillary really wrong?

Wouldn't a Clinton/Obama ticket be unstoppable?

I think Hillary was just being honest, because her statement was actually true.

Obama is acting like a spoiled little kid. "I want my candy first!"

Hillary gets my vote.

That is just about the most ridiculous thing that the Clintons have done to date, and they have done some pretty ridiculous and low things. To think that a candidate who is behind in the delegates with no mathematical chance to catch up without a miracle or more dirty tricks, is floating the idea of the leading candidate as Vice President under the candidate who is behind in the delegate count. That takes the cake. Face it, Bill and Hillary. The public is sick of you and your tricks. You have now become a ridiculous farce. Give it up, already.

"Hoodwinked" brings up images of the KKK. Obama is, once again, playing the race card just before a poor southern state votes in their primary. Can he stoop any lower?

More Clinton dirty tricks. Havn't we had enough of the Clinton's - what a disgrace. America has no desire to relive all the scandals, all the lying, all the illegal activity, all the racism, all the disgrace. Obama has a clear vision of what this country needs. Vote Obama.

Pay particular attention to this!!!
I am an Obama supporter, 500%
I would never agree to a Hillary/Obama ticket. Nor should he.

If he wins, and she's the VP, take a guess how many days he would survive in the White House before being assassinated. Then miss Billiary is the president. No, no, no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no.

If she wins, and he would ever agree to VP, there would be such conflict in the White House! He would be marginalized at best. Most likely she would do anything in her power to make him look bad, frame him, and get him kicked out.

Hmmmm . . . . and how has Obama attacked Hillary?

Please give some concrete examples.

At most - at most! - the mailer that was inaccurate is likely the best that you will be able to come up with, and the worst of his "attacks".

Please, some details of Obama's attacks would be nice.

The Clintons' flap over the Vice Presidency (first, "Obama's our man" ... to now "Obama's not good enough") boggles the mind for unmitigated gall. Hillary is on point to keep a Democrat out of the White House one way or another: First, by losing the nomination but smearing Obama so bad he can't win; or Second, by winning the nomination but alienating the majority of the population with their smarminess that she'll lose big-time.

Mrs. Clinton has 35 years of experience in "divisive" behaviour.....she actually is a "fighter" because she is always antagonizing those around her whether Republican or Democrat. The United States of America needs a "leader", not a "trouble-maker", and thankfully Senator Obama has put his good name forward to lead the Democratic Party and the people of the United States. Mrs. Clinton's latest 15 minutes of "trouble-making" should be contained to simply that --- only 15 more minutes of Clinton tactics, subterfuge, fighting, and self-preservation --- let's get on with real leadership and real change to move America once again forward on a positive path please. We can, and "should" vote for Senator Obama with our hearts and minds in all remaining states, with all remaining super-delegates, and in November. Thank you.

What I find is interesting is Obama is not turning the question around and saying that Hillary would make a great vice president. The most he has said is Hillary would be at the top of anybody's vice president list. This is really revealing of the general attitude of the Obama camp. His comments says (1) Hillary is nothing special, she is just one of many, and (2) she is not necessarily on his list. I think that Obama is sensitive to the Hillary hatred among many of his supporters, so the last thing he is going to do is give credence to the notion that she would ever be his vice president.

First we had 'slick Willy". Now we have "slick Hilly". When are people going to wake up and realize that HC would throw your momma under a bus if that is what it took to get elected?

Ok Hillary Supporters.....Now, seriously you have to be asking yourself if you are in the right corner supporting the right candidate!!!!! Just based on her passed she has done anything, denied everything, bypassed questions and even made up lies to get what she wants......She is a "fighter" no question, but if all you do is fight, you will never see whom you've hurt. Barack Obama is not fighting back he is staying true to his message he brought over a year ago.....Hillary is having to squander to get the votes she is now because in her mind she was suppose to be the nominee already.......You watch, Hillary will become more aggressive and darker in the coming months

I can't really believe how easily Billary can deceive half the democrats.
If Obama can't even forcefully respond to Billary how can he respond to the enemies of America as "comander-in chief". I have no clue.

He should off Hillary a job as White House janitor.

Funny how the Hildabeast scares up a couple of close "wins" on March 4 and it's 3 inch headlines everywhere... yet Obama wins the delegate count in Texas and wins big in Wyoming and THERE IS NOT A SINGLE MENTION OF IT ON MSNBC, CBSNEW.COM ETC.

When I went into the voting booth here in NJ, I was prepared to vote for Hillary Clinton but at the last instant, instead, voted for Mr. Obama. I had even donated to Hillary's campaign fund. I changed my mind because I believed that another 4 years of Republican government would be devestating to this Nation; and, while there are very few Republicans that would vote for Hillary there are quite a few that would vote for Barak. Those who would vote for Mr. Obama would be young and want a change.

Obama simply had a better chance of winning and the Democrats must win at all costs.

When Hillary had the ovaries big enough to open up the possibility of a REAL and UNDEFEATABLE ticket, a true dream team, I was excited. Contrary to Mr. Obama's comment of Hillary "hoodwinking the voters", to me Hillary's overture to Mr. Obama was a truly courageous and visionary statement.

Mr. Obama could have asked Hillary to be his VP. It wouldn't have mattered because the real issue is in stopping the Republicans--not party dominance and bickering.

For Mr. Obama to project such a cocky and short sighted attitude and to destroy the dream team option cost him my vote. His statement shows clearly who the real naive rhetorician and political animal is and where the real vision lies.

He keeps winning and there is no way she's going to catch him up unless they overturn his election. She's running out of time to bow out graciously.

Hillary for Secretary of Education and not a step higher. Bill for Secretary of State with an ankle bracelet for tracking purposes. Once the Tax returns are revealed, and her schedule published, they go down in flames, whether at the hands of the press, Obama, and definitely the Republicans. Don't forgive or reward the Clinton's betrayal of Al Gore. My idea of a Dream Ticket? Obama/Gore! As a Independent voter who has voted both parties, I will not cast a vote for Hillary if she steals this election using the same tactics the Republicans used in 2000 and 2004.

It should now be very clear to every thinking American that the team of Hil & Bill will do anything and say anything to regain the White House. They are both liars which is why they will not release there tax returns...probably taking money from whoever they can, foreign or not. I wonder what they promised to foreign interests who Big Bill has been shilling for. They are nothing but whores to special interests.

Hilary has no more experience to be Commander-In-Chief then Sylvester Stallone...wait a minute, if her being first lady qualifies her to be Commander-In-Chief then with his Rambo experience Stallone probably has the reqired experience also.

Go away Hilary, nobody wants you or you slimey dirt bag husband anymore.

VOTE OBAMA FOR TRUE CHANGE!! Hillary is evil and NOT to be trusted. Her hubby....PAST president LIED under oath...so what do you think they are made of ??? huh??? lies and deception. GO OBAMA! A TRUE COMMANDER IN CHIEF, LEADER FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!! vote Obama

I have to say that Obama's response is spot on! My intelligence is greatly insulted by the Clinton camp's shenanigans! What an apt response from Obama!

They both suck...as do all of the candidates...let's just hope that whoever wins can get some people in the White House smart enough to help save this nation from all of the people who are the minority of opinions, yet get the majority of the support and recognition due to their ability to "rock the boat" if you will and get what they want done. Don't listen to the lies of any of these people and don't let any group or party tell you what to do...go with what your heart tells you to and be honest with yourself...don't be apathetic and expect it all to work out people, our nation needs us right now.

Hillary hasn't even finished filling out the job application yet.

Tax returns please, and full disclosure on the Clinton pardons and Clinton Library contributions.

The American people deserve to know who the Clinton's owe big favors to before we make our choice.

Is she hoodwinking when she says you have not held one single oversight committee meeting concerning Afghanistan and NATO and you are the chair!!! Do the job you have now..................Did you see that the troops have a more serious morale problem there???? D O T H E J O B!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ever since the TX OH Primaries, Spillary has been un-believeable. Stating McCain ahead of Obama in credentials for the oval office. How short sighted can you be? That is really going to hurt in the general election. Now saying Obama's OK for the VP. She's desparate, and I hope Pennsylvanians nail her coffin shut.

Back a couple of weeks ago, I thight the two were even in policy statements, but she has turned nasty. I was hoping they would stay civil, and maybe have Billy as Secretary of State. He's got real credentials for that.

Whoa! And this is the so called progressive party trying to choose a leader? No wonder this country is in such a mess! From the vehemence posted here perhaps the USA should go back to stoning for capital punishment. It would give people an outlet for their rage. When are people going to rise above their fear and anger? Will we make it in time to avoid triggering our own demise? I'm beginning to wonder.

Hillary is stooping so low I wouldn't put it past her to, after she loses to Obama, leave the Democratic party and run as McCain's running mate, since she knows the old guy may only last one term

Obama for VP ... I might vote for that!!!

The Clinton's will do anything and say anything to get elected. Obama has a vision for the future. Hilary is a part of the past that is ruining our nation. We need to rid Washington of the likes of the Clintons and elect leaders like Obama, leaders with a vision who will bring hope and decency into governance.

Regardless of the rhetoric offered by Hillary to the contrary, she is a sociopath with genuine concern for only self; no level is too low. She is behind in delegates, yet seems to believe the general public is too dense to see through her gossamer attempt to "sneak" into the lead and magnanimously offer the VP position to the actual leader in delegates. She has been asked on numerous occassions to release tax returns, yet consistently refuses to do so, offering instead promises which are clearly efforts to disguise delay tactics. A tax return is not difficult to provide. Even the process of appropriate redacting of some personal information is a one day effort at best. One can only assume that there are inappropriate and possibly embarassing revelations contained within documents that shoud be made public. Whether Republican or Democrat, it is impossible for either to believe the Clintons. Their history of deceipt, lies and partial truths ("we don't know how the missing records mysteriously ended up in the White House dining room", "I did not have sex with that woman...", "It depends upon your definition of sex") is well documented yet frequently overshadowed with the newest promise or new half truth ("I have 35 years of experience"). The list is long and ever growing.

I think only Dems with blinders on see this as a "Dream Ticket." Adding both Hillary, the Power-Hungry Evil One, and B. Hussein Obama, the Complely Empty Suit who has no concept of national security, TOGETHER would be a disaster. No additional votes from the general populace will come from putting them on the same tickets. Conservatives would never vote for either of those Leftists anyway.

The only thing they would do is combine their enormous negatives all on top on one ticket. Thats good for the GOP.

Support Hillary, support Obama, but please, John Jay, stop denying reality. Hillary is running the kind of cynical campaign that would make Mr. Rove proud. Mocking Obama's rhetoric, comparing him to Jesse Jackson, the 3a.m. ad, the turbin photo, has brought this Biden supporter over to Obama.

To number 29,
There is no money being "spent" on the war. How did we increase debt if we had the money in the bank in the first place?

Even if we had "spent" the money on something else (healthcare, infrastructure, whatever), it would have still increased the debt.

The money being "spent" on the war is being borrowed against the future. There's no money in the bank. We need to slash spending across the board or raise taxes. In the end we will probably have to do both.

There

John Jay (41)... have you been paying attention to the campaigns? Do you really think Obama has been the one initiating the negative attacks? I personally am still undecided, but comments like yours are epitomizing the unintelligence of Hillary supporters. Self absorbed? Cocky? You mean Hillary, right? Go back and review the campaign bread-crumb trail, and see what you come up with. Obama obviously lacks experience, but so did Eisenhower, Kennedy, Lincoln, etc. Hillary on the other hand has more experience, but so did Nixon, Bush, etc. Not to mention, a handful of scandals. So who knows who the gamble for President should go to... but if all Hillary supporters are as ignorant as you are... I might want to push for Obama.

Can anybody explain to me how being Bill Clinton's wife for eight years in the White House is adequate experience to be our future President ? This is the same wife who claims to have missed (or overlooked) years of his playing around outside of their marriage vows - how did she miss all of this but gain knowledge and understanding of everything else swirling around 8 years in the White House ? Both She and Sen. Obama have more Washington and global "experience" coming into to this election that Gov. Bil ever had so why does she harp on Obama's supposed lack of experience when her own husband had far less - did she criticize him then ? Hurrah !, she has visited 80 countries, but what international crisis did she deal with, settle or resolve, or even participate in ?settling down ?

I don't understand why Obama and his supporters are taking all these insults from Billary.

Can anybody explain to me how being Bill Clinton's wife for eight years in the White House is adequate experience to be our future President ? This is the same wife who claims to have missed (or overlooked) years of his playing around outside of their marriage vows - how did she miss all of this but gain knowledge and understanding of everything else swirling around 8 years in the White House ? Both She and Sen. Obama have more Washington and global "experience" coming into to this election that Gov. Bil ever had so why does she harp on Obama's supposed lack of experience when her own husband had far less - did she criticize him then ? Hurrah !, she has visited 80 countries, but what international crisis did she deal with, settle or resolve, or even participate in ?settling down ?

I am fed up with women supporting Hillary just because she has estrogen coursing through her veins. I want the first President of the US to be like Golda Meir, not Eva Peron. I am not going to vote for her just because she's a woman, and no woman should do that. Find me a candidate who hasn't got such a long history of corruption, who hasn't proven how useless her promises are by going back on her word IN THIS VERY CAMPAIGN, who isn't just trying to play her position as the ultimate party insider to sway the superdelegates to go against the manifest will of the people, as recorded by the primaries in MOST of the states that have voted, giving Obama MOST of the delegates and a lead in the popular vote to boot.

And the party should recognize this: Some number of the Obama voters are people like me who will NEVER vote for Hillary. If she takes the nomination, my vote goes to McCain.That's why poll after poll shows that either she loses to McCain or the vote is a whole lot closer than with Obama. Pick the guy the whole party can stand behind, and find us a woman candidate next time who doesn't have the baggage.

As for whether Obama should take the VP slot if she gets the nomination, or offer her the VP slot if he gets it, I think it's a horrible idea. His whole platform is a new kind of politics, breaking away from the divisive, corrosive, trash-the-opposition approach that has deadlocked our leaders for more than 16 years. His whole platform is about open, accountable leadership - that's why HIS tax returns are public record, and HERS are not. I would hate to see him compromised by associating with her, when she is everything he's trying to free us from.

Hillary? HELL no!

In my lifetime (57 years) I have never seen anyone, running for office or otherwise, who is more totally unfit in a leadership position than Hillary. Where could she lead anyone except to the INSANITY from which she crawled? It's always all about Hillary. Please wake up and realize she cares about no one and nothing but herself. When the phone rings at 3:00 AM she will be busy stirring the eye of a newt into her pot of debauchery.

I think Ms Clinton had better think about her political future. We voted for her in NY. She will have no political future if she keeps up this nasty campaign. Also, if she uses the supers to get the nomination, they feel that the African-Americans will get mad for the moment and then fall in line and vote for her including Obama falling in line as well. Let me tell you, "DO NOT TRY THIS, WE WILL EITHER STAY HOME OR VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE". This is a classic case of if I can't have it neither will Obama. Then after Mccain's 1st term as president, we will vote for her. THAT WON'T HAPPEN. This comes from a supporter of both her and her husband.

I think Ms Clinton had better think about her political future. We voted for her in NY. She will have no political future if she keeps up this nasty campaign. Also, if she uses the supers to get the nomination, they feel that the African-Americans will get mad for the moment and then fall in line and vote for her including Obama falling in line as well. Let me tell you, "DO NOT TRY THIS, WE WILL EITHER STAY HOME OR VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE". This is a classic case of if I can't have it neither will Obama. Then after Mccain's 1st term as president, we will vote for her. THAT WON'T HAPPEN. This comes from a supporter of both her and her husband.

It's Hillary who would be easier to beat in the National Election.
Rush Limbaugh encouraged Republicans to vote for Hillary in Texas and Ohio. So the margins she claims have turned around her candidacy from defeat have been supplied by the 10% Republican crossover voters.

Hillary is for Hillary. But Bill is for Bill. An election of Hillary means Bill Clinton will be answering the phone in the middle of the night. Remember Bill, the sleazebag who brought disgrace to the Presidency with the whole Monica Lewinsky mess. Remember Bill, the one who passed on capturing Osama bin Laden when he had several chances because he didn't think it'd be politically expedient. Remember Bill, who rode the coattails of the economic changes that former President Bush created in terms of the economy and claimed he'd done it on his own. Remember Bill, the one under whose administration the FBI/CIA were weakened and split in communication such that 9/11 could happen in the first place. Remember Bill, the "first Black President," who showed his true colors before the SC primaries as to what he really thinks of African Americans.

Bill Clinton wants to be President again. If you vote for Hillary, you will soon find that as much as she can't control him during her campaign that as President she won't be able to keep him out of the National spotlight usurping her command.

Remember Hillary, whose so-called experience consists mostly of being the wife of Bill, making spectacular $100,000 gains on shady deals, and a do-nothing history as Senator. What major legislation did she put forth? Nothing much. But she was the one who had to be under Congressional investigation for running her Health Care committee without records or books of the proceedings and the expenses thereof.

Oh, and where are the Tax Returns?!!

These are the sleaziest characters the Presidency of the United States has seen in a long time, if ever, and we don't want them back in the White House... would they bring back all the loot they stole upon leaving the first time?

Obama has run an intelligent, strategic, drama-free campaign that he should be proud of and has shown at least as much experience in his eight years as a state legislator as Hillary in her years in the Senate but more, he actually accomplished the uniting he speaks of. Hillary is as divisive as they come.

As a Democrat turned Republican by the lies of Bill Clinton, I'd like to see Obama as the nominee. There's a good chance he'd still be beaten by McCain, but he has a fighting chance of winning as well. Hillary as nominee is a sure bet for a McCain landslide.

The reason Hillary lost Iowa was because she was the leading candidate at the time and people actually had to think about the prospect of "President Hillary." The reason she won New Hampshire was because she was no longer the leader and the prospect of President Hillary" wasn't so real. The reason she won Ohio and Texas (oh, she didn't really win Texas after all) was because she was by far an unrealistic winner and people didn't have to confront the prospect of "President Hillary." The more real the prospect that she could actually become president, the more people think about it, and the more they will vote against her.

Bitter, bitter Hillary camp supporters. Telling the truth results in being accused of dirty tactics from the Clinton camp, opposing Hillary's dirty tactics is being accused of whining.

Those of us who wish to hold our government as a whole to higher standards have chosen our candidate. Those of you who enjoy pie fights may continue with the Ann Coulter wanna-be who is running for office.

I don't think badly of Mr. Obama but he can't even explain his voting record in the senate, Why no one is asking this man any questions or why he stormed out of a press conference when hard questions were asked by the press amazes me . I am african american if this guy wins the democratic primary I will take my vote to McCain. The democratic party has been harmed by both candidates but I support Mrs. Clinton.

Does anyone actually think that a caucas represents the will of the people? Does anyone not know the real reason why Obama took his name off the ballot in Michigan and then convened a very active campaign to get people to come out and vote uncommitted? Does anyone not know that although no one was to campaign in Florida he spent 1.3 million on ads.

Obama is making a big mistake by simply dismissing a Clinton-Obama / Obama-Clinton ticket. With Hillary offering a Clinton-Obama ticket, he needs to counter with an Obama-Clinton ticket, or risk alienating about half of the Democratic party. He assumes that if he wins the nomination all of the Clinton supporters will come over to him. Wrong! If he and his supporters continue to treat Hillary as some kind of "monster," unworthy of a spot on his ticket, you are going to see to really upset Democrats. If this happens you are going to Democrats crossing over to McCain. Hello McCain Democrats.

Obama needs to live up to his speeches, and begin trying to unite the Democratic party. Treating Hillary as some kind of pariah is just fanning the Hillary hatred of his supporters, and dividing the party.

Classic bait and switch going on. The bait - if you vote for me (Hillary), then you vote for Obama too. The switch - once I'm elected, I'll control everything (with Bill), and Obama's left in the dust.

Good for Obama for standing up for himself. This is so ridiculous as to be funny. Since when does the losing team declare itself the winner? Get real...

A Clinton/Obama ticket is the only way to unite the party. All you have to do is read the posts here to realize how heated this has become. At this point, I do not believe either one can win without the other.

Classic bait and switch going on. The bait - if you vote for me (Hillary), then you vote for Obama too. The switch - once I'm elected, I'll control everything (with Bill), and Obama's left in the dust.

Good for Obama for standing up for himself. This is so ridiculous as to be funny. Since when does the losing team declare itself the winner? Get real...

Every time the Clintons seem to get momentum back either Slick Willie or The Shrew pull some of their cheap tricks; and in this case both of them are doing it with this vice president talk. They think Americans are too dumb to see through them. Go Barackj!

It's amazing to read something like that posted by jacksmith. How can anyone be so out of touch with political realities as to think that the Republicans want to run against Obama and not against Obama? Just about every analyst of both parties agrees that the Republicans want to run against Hillary. They have a huge arsenal of anti-Hillary material that they are holding quietly hoping Hillary will be the nominee and THEN they will 527 her to death. Limbaugh has been urging Republicans to vote for Hillary, not Obama. Where has jacksmith been?

HILLARY IS TACKY!!! YES....T A C K Y ! ! !

WHAT NERVE SUGGESTING HIM TO BE VP!

HE HAS MORE INTEGRITY AND CLASS THAN SHE WILL EVER EXHIBIT.

AND SHE'S A LIAR, SHE KEEPS CLAIMING SHE HAS 35 YEARS OF

EXPERIENCE, EASILY INFLUENCED PEOPLE BELIEVE HER.

DON'T LET HER PULL THE WOOL OVER YOUR EYES - DO THE MATH.....

IF SHE IS CLAIMING 35 YEAR, SHE IS COUNTING EVERY YEAR SINCE SHE

GRADUATED COLLEGE.

NOW, HOW DOES THAT PREPARE HER TO BE PRESIDENT?!

EXPERIENCE MEANS NOTHING IF YOU CAN'T MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.

I WANT A PRESIDENT WITH SOUND JUDGEMENT MAKING DECISIONS AT 3AM,

NOT ONE WITH EXCUSES AFTER THE FACT. HER BAD WAR DECISION HAS

COST THOUSANDS OF LIVES AND GENERATIONS OF FUTURE PEOPLE -

S H A M E O N Y O U H I L L E R Y !

It's amazing to read something like that posted by jacksmith. How can anyone be so out of touch with political realities as to think that the Republicans want to run against Obama and not against Obama? Just about every analyst of both parties agrees that the Republicans want to run against Hillary. They have a huge arsenal of anti-Hillary material that they are holding quietly hoping Hillary will be the nominee and THEN they will 527 her to death. Limbaugh has been urging Republicans to vote for Hillary, not Obama. Where has jacksmith been?

People love to bash Hillary, its sad but true. Also true is this idea would be the best for the dems. People seem to have forgotten the prosperity they enjoyed through the Clinton years, both Repubs and Dems, and the people chosen by the Clintons to help keep things stable were the best in their fields regardless of party lines such as repub Greenspan keeping the monetary policy in balance for so many years. Hillary was a hard working part of that and deserved credt for many things including her efforts on behalf of those without medical insurance, however people seem more concerned in tearing others down than in bonding together to be sure we get rid of the abominable messes their successors have made of things. McCain has to be loving seeing his opponents dilute each others talent and accomplishments. Watching the certainty of change go down the drain before getting to the starting line, all before our very eyes.

Obama is the better candidate simply on the basis of believability, Hillary is simply your typical say anything, do anything to get elected politician. When push comes to shove Americans always vote for the person they think is most believable and the most genuine, which is not always the most experienced or qualified candidate. Obama has consistantly shown class while Hillary has consistantly shown how superficial she is. Too bad for the Dems that McCain will beat either candidate.

BTW jacksmith, come back to planet Earth

I HAVE READ WITH GREAT INTEREST THE 41 SETS OF COMMENTS AND ONE WORD STRIKES ME AS THE MOST APPROPRIATE WHEN IT COMES TO "BILLARY" , -------SLEAZY-------. I HONESTLY BELIEVE SHE WOULD REACH NEW DEPTHS OF DECEIPT TO DISPOSE OBAMA AND WOULD TELL THE AMERICAN VOTERS ANYTHING TO BECOME THE CANDIDATE. I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, FEMALE PRESIDENT , OK, BUT PLEASE NOT HILLARY. 8 YEARS OF GEORGE WAS ENOUGH ( THE TRILLION DOLLAR WAR MONGER) WHO CAN'T EVEN STAY IN TOUCH WITH HIS OWN COUNTRYS' NEEDS'.
WE NEED CHANGE, GIVE THE MAN A CHANCE. ALSO THE MEDIA NEEDS TO START REPORTING THE FACTS AS THEY ARE: SHE DID NOT WIN TEXAS............

I HAVE READ WITH GREAT INTEREST THE 41 SETS OF COMMENTS AND ONE WORD STRIKES ME AS THE MOST APPROPRIATE WHEN IT COMES TO "BILLARY" , -------SLEAZY-------. I HONESTLY BELIEVE SHE WOULD REACH NEW DEPTHS OF DECEIPT TO DISPOSE OBAMA AND WOULD TELL THE AMERICAN VOTERS ANYTHING TO BECOME THE CANDIDATE. I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, FEMALE PRESIDENT , OK, BUT PLEASE NOT HILLARY. 8 YEARS OF GEORGE WAS ENOUGH ( THE TRILLION DOLLAR WAR MONGER) WHO CAN'T EVEN STAY IN TOUCH WITH HIS OWN COUNTRYS' NEEDS'.
WE NEED CHANGE, GIVE THE MAN A CHANCE. ALSO THE MEDIA NEEDS TO START REPORTING THE FACTS AS THEY ARE: SHE DID NOT WIN TEXAS............

Obama will take his Delegates and run as an Independent if the DNC steals the nomination from him.

Good for Him

Americans are with you

Hillary's Republican roots are showing (she was President of Wellesley's College Republicans)...is she getting campaign tips from Rove? Sure she is a smart and has done some interesting work (although most of her career was spent as a corporate lawyer) but what exactly are her foreign policy credentials? Some good will trips while she was First Lady? Barack has a lifetime of practical foreign affairs experience. Most importantly for me, he has a thoughful and rational approach to foreign policy that Clinton and McCain both lack.

I want a leader who is willing to talk with people in other countries, even ones deemed "evil" by the Bush Admin. I thought it was laughable that Ms. Clinton would insist on pre-conditions being met before she would consent to talk to the leader of Cuba, an tiny island nation on which we have a prison where WE have TORTURED people...and meanwhile China, a notorious human rights abuser, enjoys Most Favored Nation status. America needs to change course and the only candidate offering that change is Barack Obama.

A Hill-Bill low point. This speaks volumes about who they are and expands the greatness of President-elect Obama!!! Keep it up Hillary.....

Hillary Clinton, I do declare. I think I smell your underwear!!!!

Why would Obama accept your offer for VP, that will allow you to have control of a bus, that you helped Bush drive into the ditch, be the driver and tell him that if he gives up the race to be CIC , in a race that he is winning fairly and with grace, you will let him on the bus but he will have to ride in the back of the bus?

HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND? I must say, Hillary, you do have balls. How low will you sink to steal this race?

You and Bill seems to think that you can lie,steal and cheat your way to the Whitehouse and try to fool us into believing that a vote for you is a vote for Obama. You people are a real piece of dirty work!!!!

Our getting on the back of the bus days are over and the good people of Mississippi will not GO for your low, silly, little lies to steal our votes.

YES, WE FAVOR OBAMA, AS WE SHOULD!!!! HE WILL WIN OUR VOTE BY A LANDSLIDE!

We might be the poorest state in the union but we are not stupid. Shame on you, Hillary and Bill Clinton. Shame on you!!!!

I ATTENDED THE OBAMA RALLY IN HOUSTON THE DAY BEFORE THE ELECTION. I WAS SO EXCITED TO SEE THE UNITY...PEOPLE OF ALL COLORS TALKING ABOUT HOW WE COULD BRIDGE OUR COMMUNITIES TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY......THAT IS WHAT THE OBAMA MESSAGE IS ABOUT...IT IS MOSTLY THE OLD SCHOOL THAT REFUSE TO EMBRACE THE FUTURE...IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT OLD SCHOOL ARE PEOPLE LIKE THE CLINTONS...WHO WANT TO DIVIDE INSTEAD OF UNITE...THEY DONT REALIZE THAT IT IS NOT OBAMA PER SAY...IT IS OUR DEEP DESIRE FOR TRUE CHANGE AND IF WE THOUGHT SHE HAD IT IN HER...WE WOULD GLADLY SUPPORT HER... SHE TRYS TO PEN BLACKS AGAINST LATINOS AND THEN MEXICANS AGAINST WHITES AND DONT FORGET THE BIG STATES AGAINST SMALLER STATES....I DONT THINK THAT IS THE TYPE OF UNITY THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT....GET A CLUE CLINTONS IT IS NOT THE MAN...IT IS A MOVEMENT....I DONT THINK THEY REALLY WANT TO SEE US UNITE AND THAT TROUBLES ME....GOD BLESS US ALL...

I ATTENDED THE OBAMA RALLY IN HOUSTON THE DAY BEFORE THE ELECTION. I WAS SO EXCITED TO SEE THE UNITY...PEOPLE OF ALL COLORS TALKING ABOUT HOW WE COULD BRIDGE OUR COMMUNITIES TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY......THAT IS WHAT THE OBAMA MESSAGE IS ABOUT...IT IS MOSTLY THE OLD SCHOOL THAT REFUSE TO EMBRACE THE FUTURE...IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT OLD SCHOOL ARE PEOPLE LIKE THE CLINTONS...WHO WANT TO DIVIDE INSTEAD OF UNITE...THEY DONT REALIZE THAT IT IS NOT OBAMA PER SAY...IT IS OUR DEEP DESIRE FOR TRUE CHANGE AND IF WE THOUGHT SHE HAD IT IN HER...WE WOULD GLADLY SUPPORT HER... SHE TRYS TO PEN BLACKS AGAINST LATINOS AND THEN MEXICANS AGAINST WHITES AND DONT FORGET THE BIG STATES AGAINST SMALLER STATES....I DONT THINK THAT IS THE TYPE OF UNITY THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT....GET A CLUE CLINTONS IT IS NOT THE MAN...IT IS A MOVEMENT....I DONT THINK THEY REALLY WANT TO SEE US UNITE AND THAT TROUBLES ME....GOD BLESS US ALL...

Obama may be ahead in the Democratic nomination, that in no way means he will become president. I would vote for him as VP, he does not have enough experience and VP would give him that. When it is time to vote, if Obama is on the ticket, I will vote McCain, as will many other Americans who know you can't live on hope, dreams and words. When you combine all the people that feel the same way I do, The numbers go to McCain. If Democrats want to win, I urge you to vote Clinton for President, Obama Vice President.

As an interesting twist on the 'experience' line of attack, I just recently saw that in his 12 yrs as an elected official (Illinois legislature and US Senate), Obama has written or been a co-sponsor on over 800 pieces of legislation, while Clinton, in her 6 years as an elected official (US Senate) has written none, and been a co-sponsor on 20 pieces of legislation, of which 15 were things like naming post offices or congratulating lacrosse teams. Obama appears to have far more experience in office, though far less 'experience' in being the mate of someone in office.

Did no one notice when Barack Obama said Hillary would make a great VP? I sure did. So what's the difference if she returns the complement?

I think these folks are all losing it and I'm beginning to think the unthinkable. A vote for McCain.

Did no one notice when Barack Obama said Hillary would make a great VP? I sure did. So what's the difference if she returns the complement?

I think these folks are all losing it and I'm beginning to think the unthinkable. A vote for McCain.

Sen. Obama,
Take 2nd place while you can. It might not be offered again and you will be left out in the cold holding hope in one hand and change in the other!
Best of Luck

Clinton is very open and clear about her vast experience. Obama is not. He is in fact extremely and intentionally vague. I don't think he should be nominee just because everyone think Hillary can't win against McCain. I recently heard Obama exclaim that he was sick of the "religion" question. We Mr. Obama, I have news for you. Your run for the White House is very neat and tidy right now. Wait until the Repbulicans get a hold of you. They will have you for lunch.

Sen. Obama,
Take 2nd place while you can. It might not be offered again and you will be left out in the cold holding hope in one hand and change in the other!
Best of Luck

Barrack Hussein Obama is not qualified to be neither the Commander-in-Chief nor the Vice President. He is, however, a great orator. Maybe the stage or the speaking circuit holds a future for him. I do not blame him for being humiliated by Hill suggesting that he be her V.P.

America may elect him but the devil is in the details and he is not sharing many details regarding his ambitious socialistic plan. If he is elected, this country will embark on a perilous journey into socialism and disarray. Already the carrion birds of the militant east are circling and croaking over the likelihood of his election. Beware America. All that glitters is not gold!

I am very convinced that there will be quite a number of democrats and republicans alike who will immediately pull the lever for McCain if Hillary gets the nomination. By this analysis, any Democrat who votes for Hillary is essentially ceding the election to McCain. On the other hand, I'm a republican who is actually far more inclined to vote for Obama, if I'm ultimately given the opportunity.

Hillary, Obama ticket has been my ideal since the last democratic convention 4 years ago. Ideally, with that route we may get at least 8 years and a possible 16 of a democratic presidency to undo the Bush failings. If Obama were to take the Presidency now and fail in the first four years due to his lack of experience, not just as a President but in the Senate, we'll be out for the next four years as I see no one in the wings behind these two who can make a viable contention for the next race. If Hillary fails after four years, Obama will be a shoe in, getting us to at least eight. Not to mention the combined ticket would be the best way to bring together the decisive split that is brewing and could cost us this election. Hillary has concrete experience, an actual healthplan, an economic strategy, and knows what it means to have failed and what needs to be marshalled to go at it again; Obama didn't vote for the war. Hillary for Pres. Obama for VP suits me.

I am very convinced that there will be quite a number of democrats and republicans alike who will immediately pull the lever for McCain if Hillary gets the nomination. By this analysis, any Democrat who votes for Hillary is essentially ceding the election to McCain. On the other hand, I'm a republican who is actually far more inclined to vote for Obama, if I'm ultimately given the opportunity.

Billary, where are your tax returns? How do you hide illegal contributions for 16 years ? i.e. Marc & Denise Rich. Does these names ring a bell, Lewinsky, Foster, Flowers, Jones, Jenkins, Collins, Sullivan - skeleton anyone? It make Obama
misgivings look like kindergarten.

Ha Ha...Barack has got Hillary in a political gotcha. She and Bill have been doing the super spin to get people to think of Obama as VP only material and now they have to explain why he is now qualified to be a heartbeat away.

Most of the "experience" Hillary touts comes from being in the White House with Bill and visiting as many countries as First Lady as Laura Bush. Are we to believe that is how you become experienced to be Pres? In that case isn't Laura Bush as qualified? Rosylyn Carter? How about Socks?

Unless the voting public is on drugs, the Clintons rare bird strategy for stealing the nomination should backfire. Hillary does not evidently have enough to do, so I highly recommend the mainstream media get with their investigative program on her packed life of public controversy and corruption and, thereby, give her something to do, a project of self preservation that would keep her occupied and out of the hair of the super delegates, the general voting public and most of all Obama. She brings nothing to the contest but subterfuge, dillusion, and the serial soap opera of her weird and unsupervised campaign staff. All-about-Hillary is simply too exhausting for the democratic party to continue to float her boat. Stick a pin in it! ( And a sock in her double edged mouth )

Hillary, Obama ticket has been my ideal since the last democratic convention 4 years ago. Ideally, with that route we may get at least 8 years and a possible 16 of a democratic presidency to undo the Bush failings. If Obama were to take the Presidency now and fail in the first four years due to his lack of experience, not just as a President but in the Senate, we'll be out for the next four years as I see no one in the wings behind these two who can make a viable contention for the next race. If Hillary fails after four years, Obama will be a shoe in, getting us to at least eight. Not to mention the combined ticket would be the best way to bring together the decisive split that is brewing and could cost us this election. Hillary has concrete experience, an actual healthplan, an economic strategy, and knows what it means to have failed and what needs to be marshalled to go at it again; Obama didn't vote for the war. Hillary for Pres. Obama for VP suits me.

I'm glad Obama answered Clinton back...Who in the sam hill does she think she is.... Just from her actions in this race, I wouyld never vote for her... If she gets the democatic ticket I will vote McCain/Bush.... You talk about insults, her offering a vp slot to Obama is a big insult, and none to smart either.
She has been trouting that Obama is green and lacking in politics, yet she offers him the second highest position in the country? What part of unbelieveable does she not understand? Obama is running number one right now, she is number two.
Someone should really check to see what kind of meds she is on....GO OBAMA YOU HAVE MY VOTE EVEN IF THEY GO WITH HER, FOR I WILL WRITE YOUR NAME IN......GO OBAMA.....AND DARN GOOD COME BACK TO THE OFFER....
Judith - New Hampshire

by the way, I didn't like the NH vote, specially when I found out some dumb women changed their votes to Clinton because she cried... but they said in the general elections they were voting for Obama.... think the DNC will let us re-do our voting again???

Go Hilery,You got my vote.Why is it that when Hilery disagree with Obama,he claims she is attacking him,but when he does the same thing to her, he is only challengeing her.(Yea Right).

The reason the media refers to Texas as a big win for hillary is because even thought it was 51%-47%, Texas is such a big state that it transfers to more than a 100,000 vote difference. Thats more than the total numbers of voters in some of the states that Obama won. And the fact that Obama won the Texas caucus anyways just shows that caucusing is an inaccurate representation of who people want as the nominee. Caucusing is time consuming and at a fixed time, which allows much less people to participipate. All primary voters in Texas were eligible to caucus, and only a small fraction of those were actually able to do so. Who knows how many states Hillary would have won if they would have held primaries instead of caucuses.

MR. OBAMA ,AND HIS HATEFUL WIFE , THEY BEEN THINKING , THEY GOING TO WIN THIS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION??, AND THEN , WITH HIS MAGIC IDEA ??HE GOING TO TAKE CARE EVERY PROBLEMS ,AND FIXING,RIGHT WAY ?? ,IF MR. OBAMA , FINISH FIRST AND WIN THIS PRIMARY ELECTIONS ??? AND BECOME , THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE FROM , OUR PARTY , I STILL , I DO NOT BELIEVE ,HOW .???, I HEAR, MANY REGISTER DEMOCRAT, LIKE ME , THAN , VOTED FOR HILLARY, THEN WE WILL BE FORCE TO VOTE , REPUBLICAN, LIKE WE DID FOR REAGAN .....MANY YEARS AGO ....THANKS ... F. RONDON

I don’t believe Osama’s supports are so naive. They think he is so honest and pure. He is making a back room deal with Canadians regarding NAFTA. He is lying about the war that he will bring troops home as soon as he is the president but then behind close doors he tells his camp he will not be bringing troops home right away. And you call Hillary a liar that she will do anything to become a president. Don't you see the pattern he will do anything to win the nomination? You all are so much in love with the perfect man that even if he lies to you don’t see his faults. No one is perfect in this world.

Obama needs to drive the point that THE WAR IN IRAQ IS HAVING SERIOUS NEGATIVE EFFECTS on our economy and that those who voted for the war should be to blame, in part, for the state of the US economy.

Look how the WAR IN IRAQ is affecting the US economy...

$3,000,000,000 - $3 billion PER WEEK! – That is the amount we're paying for the Iraq War– money that should have been used here, at home.

Add to this:
Interest. We are financing the war with borrowed money (e.g. treasuries) so in actuality, we're the war is costing the United States MORE than $ 3 billion PER WEEK.
Higher oil and energy prices. Instability in Iraq is adding roughly 30 dollars per barrel as a premium.

High oil prices mean high utility bills. Due to high oil prices, demand shifts to other sources of energy - nat gas, coal, etc. - and greater demand will raise the equilibrium price of all sources of energy -- Can you say high energy bills?

Higher oil prices (a raw material used in the production of many goods, fertilizers, gasoline, diesel, plastics, etc.) mean higher prices of goods and services -- Can you say INFLATION?

Higher oil prices mean a higher trade deficit because most of our oil comes from foreign sources. A higher trade deficit means more money is leaving the country than is coming into the country -- Can you say 'Goodbye money!'

Our dollar is weak, weak, weak. Since we have a trade deficit, the value of goods and services we import exceeds the value of goods we export. You know that foreign car you're thinking of buying or the computer you're using, or that trip abroad you've been thinking of taking....well, guess what? It is going to cost more, Ceteris Peribus, because the dollar is weak, weak, weak.

Lastly, how do you think the world views our country because of this war? The evidence was weak and circumstantial, yet we rushed into war with Iraq while our enemy was in other countries. -- Can you say goodbye to trust building with other countries?

We don't want Obama as president, nor VP. He's a lier, a fraud, a sneaky snake. All his followers, running around thinking he's GOD. And if you have to keep putting Hillary down, to build Obama up, that shows, he is a no body. Don't worry about Hillary's tax release, or about her and Bill Clinton, private life, all that happen over 10 years ago, so move on. We know all the dirty details, it was all over the news, we get it!!!! Now let's talk about Obama and the Tony Rezko trial, which is going on in Chicago as we speak, don't try to hide this from the public, with all the Hillary bashing, just let the world know what' s going on. hillaryspeaksforme.com.
taylormarsh.com

I am with Obama on his stance on VP to Hillary. It is very tragic for Hillary to even talk about it. Obama based his entire campaign attacking Hillary's 2002 vote before Iraq war.

Anytime Hillary points something out that is lacking with Obama, he immediately pulls her 2002 vote. He very conveniently uses that vote, while hiding all his war funding votes. Only Kucinich can question Hillary on 2002 vote, not Obama. All Obama does is pure politics; nothing fresh or "Change" as many of his followers dream of.

He said he wanted to "have conversation with Tina Fey". He threatens everybody who gives opposing views. We don't want another Dick Cheney. Sure.

However, I would like to spend some dollars to buy a Clinton/Obama-08 bumper sticker just to piss off the Obama-mob :))

There probably is an additional element to Billary's Obama-for-Veep strategy.

They are terrified that most Superdelegates will quickly fall in line and ratify Barack's win among the pledged delegates once all the primaries are over.

But if the Billary-inclined Superdelegates can be made to think that the "dream ticket" will be the ultimate outcome, no matter what happens, then perhaps they will stick with Billary and possibly allow her to steal the nomination at the convention.

Actually, Hillary should be McCain's VP since they both owe lots of favors to big business, vote the same way on Iraq/Iran and are experienced at Washington-speak.

If Obama really wants to put Humpty Dumpty together again, how about an Obama/McCain ticket. Hill and Bill have each other--which they deserve.

MR. OBAMA ,AND HIS HATEFUL WIFE , THEY BEEN THINKING , THEY GOING TO WIN THIS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION??, AND THEN , WITH HIS MAGIC IDEA ??HE GOING TO TAKE CARE EVERY PROBLEMS ,AND FIXING,RIGHT WAY ?? ,IF MR. OBAMA , FINISH FIRST AND WIN THIS PRIMARY ELECTIONS ??? AND BECOME , THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE FROM , OUR PARTY , I STILL , I DO NOT BELIEVE ,HOW .???, I HEAR, MANY REGISTER DEMOCRAT, LIKE ME , THAN , VOTED FOR HILLARY, THEN WE WILL BE FORCE TO VOTE , REPUBLICAN, LIKE WE DID FOR REAGAN .....MANY YEARS AGO ....THANKS ... F. RONDON

Good for you, Obama! Keep it up!!!

I think it is completely legitimate for Clintons to appreciate that Obama has a lot of support that would strengthen Hillary's ticket and, at the same moment, to realize that - when you actually ignore what the confused Obama supporters think - Obama would be a lousy leader. There is no contradiction whatsoever as long as you look at the situation as a story from real politics rather than a theater play from absurd theater or from a utopia.

Boy what people won't rationalize when their candidate is losing. This one really takes the cake.

What you're saying is
a) Obama is inexperienced, untested, unready, etc.
but
b) it's ok to have him in the VP slot (thus endangering the country, by definition), as long as Hillary still gets to win a presidency she lacks the delegates (to say nothing of the popular vote) for.

You know what? You can take your idea, shove it REALLY far up your a**, and spin on it, buddy. We Democratic voters who voted our conscience don't need your paternalism, condensation, or Machiavellian bull**it.

See - we actually care about the country. It's a novel idea, I know, but you might try looking into it.

Obama will never become president. Once the Larry Sinclair scandal goes to the mainstream media, and it's about to, his campaing will be all over. And all of his "followers" are going to feel "hoodwinked" and "bamboozled".

http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/

Barack Obama President is the response to Billary's poor suggestion. Viva el Presidente Barack Obama!!!!!

When asked if she would consider Obama as a runningmate she said "sure". When asked if he would consider Hillary as a running mate, he said "no".
Who is dividing the party?

As for Michigan and Florida, it is the citizens of those staes who are asing for the right to have their votes count. Hillary is not behind a sinister plot to steal the votes of those states.

When I heard that Hillary Clinton was running for president, I said 'I would never vote for her'. I was an Obama fan for a long time. Then I started to watch the debates. Obama was fantastic, a great speaker, mesmerizing, to say theleast.Unfortunately, as I listened to him, I realized he really said nothing. He would continually agree with Clinton, but added nothing. Clinton would say what she wanted to do and how she would do it. Obama would say what he wanted to do but never said how he would accomplish his goals. The more I listened, the less he said. Obama made sense, but Clinton made more sense. Clinton was very clear, Obama was not. Now, Obama just makes me nervous.

Obama will never win this election. And the fact is that it is an unfair delegate count that put him in the lead, not to mention the press and media PUSHING the whole election toward Obama. He gets almost 2 to 1 delgates in african american communities compared to all the rest of the districts throughout the US. This was put into play when Jesse Jackson was running. And he also wins caucuses that disenfranchise working Americans, single parents with children and the elderly. These are voters that have a tendancy to support Clinton, or her "core" voters.. And third, he loses win Minnesota and Florida is put into play, but he does not want to count them. Another group he wants to disenfranchise. And then he says that Super Delegates should vote for the popular vote or for the way their state carried. So OK, that means that Kerry and Kennedy should both vote for Hillary as Clinton won Massachusets, as should all Super Delegates from New York, New Jersey, Rhode Island, California, New Mexico, Nevada, New Hampshire, Texas, Tenneesee, Arkansas, Ohio, Florida, Michigan, and upcoming Pennsylvania. And guess what! And currently, Hillary IS leading in Super Delegates. And she should. She is the most qualified candidate, she holds, according to the latest poll, a 62% favorable rating to Obamas 58% rating among Democrats, and she is already leading in Super Delegates. She also wins in all new polls of the swing states against McCain. Obama does not win!. Take a look at the new polls in the NECESSARY to win swing states! And yes, they are necessary to WIN a General Election. It is crazy that this fact be ignored! Yes, she will win and rightfully so! Super Delegates need to do their job as well. Vote for the electable candidate. That is Hillary Clinton!

Quote: "Now let's talk about Obama and the Tony Rezko trial, which is going on in Chicago as we speak, don't try to hide this from the public, with all the Hillary bashing, just let the world know what' s going on. "

OK. let's let the world know what is going on:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56868

Barry's finally doing some necessary spade-work...

Barry's finally doing some necessary spade-work...

Hang in there Obama.
Hillary - tics are just trying anything to "be on top".
She should have stuck to issues of war, Iraq, our economy, and Americas solutions instead of acting like she is a teenager ~hair pulling in the dressing room, getting caught by the cameras , the next "bad" contestant to win the beauty contest.
It is like she is dreaming of the real tiarra and the presentation bouquet and the walk down the runway. Then what?
She is in a "I will solve world hunger mentality". That is the BS she is trying to sell us.
Wake up folks. Bill abused her while he was in the white house. Now he can play Clinton"""S""" for president and get by with ALLOT more crap. She is power hungry enough to use all of us as a pawn.

PMC, please get your facts straight.
"And third, he loses win Minnesota and Florida is put into play, but he does not want to count them." I think you are speaking of MICHIGAN and Florida. Yep, in both cases, the candidates agreed to back out of the election, but Clinton did not. Obama was not even on the ballot in Michigan and Clinton stayed on. But uncommitted won 44% of the vote against her. In Florida, a lot stayed home and did not vote, because it was not supposed to mean anything as the party and candidates had already announced it would not be counted. Superdelegates can vote anyway they wish, even though they are now pledged. Read up. And BTW, Obama won the delegates in Texas.
TeTe

Obama is our Savior. The arrogant voters in a few stupid states have given so called victories to clinton. Thanks to Allah, the Democrats have created delegate rules that will allow Obama to gain the nomination despite her winning all the some states. Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota vote Democratic, Texas, Ohio, Rode Island, New York, California, New Jersey are embarrassments! Make Michelle proud, stop the arrogant voters who choose Hillary NOW! Stop the racist oppression Michelle has suffered! Obama will change an evil America and apologize to our Muslim Brothers!

Hillary's team has finally looked at the numbers and realized that she can't win. She won't win the pledged delegates and not enough of the super delegates will swing her way. It will divide the party and harm the Dems chances of picking up more House and Senate seats in the fall. So she is pursuing a course that will lead to one of two outcomes. One to convince the super delagates to vote for her anyway by guaranteeing Obama a VP slot. Then it will not seem to be a travesty if she wins. It can be spun as a victory for everyone. Or, she indirectly presses for the VP slot. She can't ask for it (Obama will likely turn her down), so they talk up the idea of a Dream ticket with Obama as the VP. This interests people and they buy the suggestion. But people argue that he has to be on the top of the ticket because he is leading. People all around drum up support to pressure party leaders and leaders pressure Obama. Eventually after much debate and talk of party unity, the plan is to push Obama to ask her to be VP to which she "reluctantly" agrees.

BTW I found a fantastic article…A MUST read for EVERYONE “The Hussein Dynamic” at http://savagepolitics.com.
Brilliant writing that goes beyond what the MSM is feeding us!!!!

Here is an excerpt: “The issue of Barack Obama’s religious definition has captivated many Americans to the point were charges of terrorism and counter charges of racism have been thrown into the fray of the discussion, aimed at either side. To many Liberal Americans, whether or not Obama is a Muslim (or was a Muslim) is irrelevant to the feelings of “hope” and “change” that he inspires in them, which they consider to have a higher merit than petty religious or ethnic associations. To many Conservative Americans, the mere allocation of any candidate within the realm of Islam is sufficient reason to vote against him, irrespective of the details that may lie in the penumbra of his personal story. Either way, it is impossible for any citizen to make an intelligent assessment of either perspective, without knowing the details and the relevant information regarding Mr. Obama’s past. Unlike the Mainstream Media, who has automatically assumed that Obama has no relation to Islam, in a vague attempt to paint themselves as “reasonable” and “progressives”, most thinking citizens should not follow suit. There is ample evidence to make any reasonable citizen conclude that the Obama campaign and the Media have been hiding some crucial elements of this candidate’s past that should become widely known and discussed in the open. Let us then ask ourselves; Is Barack Obama a Muslim?” get the rest at http://savagepolitics.com/?p=171

Dear "decider and all who care about America,"

She (Hillary) wasn't the President. She was the wife, who was cheated on in the most humiliating way to the American presidency. Remember Monica? He gave us NAFTA and the rest of the global economy mess. Billary failed to take out Bin Laden, when he/she had the opportunity. So much for picking up the red phone in the middle of the night. With her apparent sense of entitlement and her gamesmanship, she stand a high risk of dividing the Democratic Party. She surely will not be able to unite the country, because she is and will continue to be the most divisive candidate in the race. Do you really want an encore, because, even if successful in November, you will get both of them, a dynasty, and more corruption scandals. Is that the best we can do? I say we can do better, we can put Americans back to work in good paying jobs, and we can decide that we are one country. We don’t need to continue to be a country divided by race, economic interests, and red versus blue states. We can decide to be one America, a country that truly believes in caring for it’s people. "Yes, we can."

Obama needs to drive the point that THE WAR IN IRAQ IS HAVING SERIOUS NEGATIVE EFFECTS on our economy and that those who voted for the war should be to blame, in part, for the state of the US economy.

Look how the WAR IN IRAQ is affecting the US economy...

$3,000,000,000 - $3 billion PER WEEK! – That is the amount we're paying for the Iraq War– money that should have been used here, at home.

Add to this:

Interest. We are financing the war with borrowed money (e.g. treasuries) so in actuality, we're the war is costing the United States MORE than $ 3 billion PER WEEK.
Higher oil and energy prices. Instability in Iraq is adding roughly 30 dollars per barrel as a premium.

High oil prices mean high utility bills. Due to high oil prices, demand shifts to other sources of energy - nat gas, coal, etc. - and greater demand will raise the equilibrium price of all sources of energy -- Can you say high energy bills?

Higher oil prices (a raw material used in the production of many goods, fertilizers, gasoline, diesel, plastics, etc.) mean higher prices of goods and services -- Can you say INFLATION?

Higher oil prices mean a higher trade deficit because most of our oil comes from foreign sources. A higher trade deficit means more money is leaving the country than is coming into the country -- Can you say 'Goodbye money!'

Our dollar is weak, weak, weak. Since we have a trade deficit, the value of goods and services we import exceeds the value of goods we export. You know that foreign car you're thinking of buying or the computer you're using, or that trip abroad you've been thinking of taking....well, guess what? It is going to cost more, Ceteris Peribus, because the dollar is weak, weak, weak.

Lastly, how do you think the world views our country because of this war? The evidence was weak and circumstantial, yet we rushed into war with Iraq thanks to Hillary’s authorization.

Obama hit one out the park this time. Now I think a blowout win in Mississippi will send the Clintons spiraling out the race!

You People Are Forgetting One Thing Mr Obama Can Only Win Caucauses,He Can't And Has Not Won But One Big State Primary Which Were His Own South Side Slum's.He Want To Be POTUS But He Doesn't Want To Reveal Anything About His Past Which From What I've Read About Him Ain't Much,He Threw Away His Records For His 8 Years In The State Senate,If He Has More Experience Than Senator Clinton Why Don't He Present His Records Of His Time In The State Senate,Answer He Knows If Revealed He'll Be Seen As The LIAR That He Is,He Doesn't Have One Accomplishment That He Can Aknowledge.He Put His Two Foreign Policy Adviser's Out Front To Save His Ass And They Both F--ked Up,& Then He Turned Around & Fired Samantha Power's Before She Exposes His Ass For The Fraud That He Is.I Noticed Most Of You College Kids Don't Vote On The Issue's But Continue To Defend Mr Obama Regardless Of What He Do,Or Don't Do,This Is Not About No Damn Movement,Or Inspiration,Or Charisma,Or People Falling Out On The Ground,That's Ignorance At It's Best,Asfar As The War Is Concerned And I've Been Their,The Majority Of Troop's Want To Finish Their Mission,They Did Not Ask Any Of You College Kid's Who Knows Nothing About The History Of This World Military Operation's,This Is A War & A Unpopular One At That But This Country Were Built From War Or Like Everything Else Have You Forgot.Yes Hilliary Voted For The War,And So Did 76 Of Her Peer's But It's Her Fault Right,I Do Believe It Were Mr Bush's Fault Not Senator Clinton,I Also See You Moron's Is Willing To Follow Anything Republicans Put Out Their On The Menu,And The Experience Thing That You Folk's Keep Denying Her The Right To Claim,The American People Has Already Excepted That As A Fact Check Your #'s,So That Argument That You Keep Aflame Is Moot At Best,So That Means You Are Trying To Convince Yourself That It's Not True.You Kid's Are The One's That Has This Country In An Uproar With Your Stupidity Over Mr Obama A Muslim I Don't Care What You Say It's Not The Muslim's Tradition To Change From One Religion To Another It's A Little More Complicated Than That.But You Are Willing To Put This Man In The Oval Office,It'll Never Happen Trust Me,Not With A Name Like (HUSSEIN)

Wow. It's really fascinating to read these comments, because it reveals that media brainwashing really works. The character assassination the Republicans started on the Clintons in the '90's is now being spouted faithfully by Democrats. The media constantly harps on the Clinton campaign's "negative" tactics because they actually have the nerve to criticize Obama's blatant lack of experience, his documented inconsistencies, and his outright lies on the campaign trail (Exelon, lobbyists, Rezko, NAFTA). Worse, he claims to be so pure, but for months he has distorted Clinton's positions and words, sent out inaccurate and "fear-mongering" (his word against her) mailings in CT & Ohio about her health care plan ("she's going to take your money!"), and his own campaign has admitted fueling the racial conflict (Bill's comments about Obama's war record, another gross distortion, as a "fairy tale" had absolutely nothing to do with race. The media, as with the war build up, has been completely complicit, and poor Obama whines about it and you all eat it up like it's the truth. There are millions of us who see that the Prince has no clothes. His "I've won more states" is another dishonest argument. Idaho will not beat McCain next fall. Ohio, Florida, CA, Tenessee, Arizona, New Mexico, and PA will. You can demonize Clinton because it's easy and lazy, but there are millions of us that support her and will continue to do so. She is not winning the biggest states by accident, and the Superdelegates know it. That is why Obama is now using the same desperate negative attacks that you all claim to despise. She (and we) will never give up, and we/she has no reason to. She will win the popular vote, because hundreds of thousands vote in the large states, not 8,000 like Wyoming. I think that is why there is so much hostility toward Hillary. She won't quit, and she has the strength and power to win.

Is Obama over reacting? I can't find where Hillary or Bill Clinton expressly state that it's Obama who will be the VP, so if anyone has that piece, please post. I thought she was just throwing out the idea as a way of assuring voters that you can get two great candidates on the same ticket. Not that Obama would necessarily pick Clinton as his VP, but perhaps this suggestion puts some pressure at the Denver Convention to include her (possibly as the VP) as Obama rightfully has the delagtes and she carries the much needed big states. Isn't she really just posturing and hyping herself -- so what? The only quote I find from Bill Clinton is that a ticket with both of them "would be unstoppable." Either way, Obama's public reply today where he paced back and forth like he was at the Comedy Shack seemed immature, sarcastic, divisive and pretty catty in his tone. Not the Obama of hope I originally admired.

If Hillary wins the nomination & election, it will be nothing more than the 3rd term of the Clinton presidency! The Clintons will do anything they have to for them to obtain power as evidenced by the recent offer to Obama for the VP slot. That is so sleazy, & right in step with the usual political BS. This is just one example of why Bill & Hillary are the "same ol' politicians" that we have always had...willing to do & say anything to get your vote. How can Obama "not be qualified to be president", but qualified to be Hillary's vice president & take over the country if something happens to Hillary??? This is just more of the same BS we currently have in Washington!

It is amazing that we forget former President Clinton practiced law and was governor of Arkansas before running for office. Senator Obama currently works with world government before running for the next presidential office. I think that would make him equally experienced to run this country. We continue to use race and gender as justification to why we can’t get on one accord. Let's remember that we are looking for change and Obama has changed a lot and he is not in office yet! James Allen said “he who would accomplish little must sacrifice little; he who would achieve much must sacrifice much; he who would attain highly must sacrifice greatly”. Well, Obama has attained so much and is sacrificing for an opportunity to make a difference and bring about a change. Romans 8:25-28 says “25 But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently. 26 In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express. 27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints in accordance with God's will. 28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose”.

It is obvious that many of the Obama fans posting here are young and unseasoned just as he is. Obama makes it clear that it is unthinkable on his part to be the VP and he has so stated early in the campaign. He ought to be happy that he is benefitting from the labors of people like MLK, Thurgood Marshall and many others to numerous to mention. Unlike many of us who have experienced outright prejudice and segregation, he has lived a relatively easy life compared to those of us who grew up in the 60's and 70's. Obama should not be above accepting the VP spot. He should be glad that White America is even considering voting for him to be President. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

All i can say is, Words DO matter.

Clinton should realise this and stop hoodwinking people by words and deliberate misrepresentations.

BTW, I am keenly watching this from India, Obama's campaign has has spurred me and inspired me into knowing so much more about the American electoral process, for that I do thank him indeed!

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON is the right president for America.

Barack Hussein Obama is an empty suit, lots of preaching type speeches with lots of rhetoric and numbers of women fainting, signs going up and down - and really a poor choice for either president or vice president.

Barack Hussein Obama doesn't have the decision-making skills to be president or vice president.....that was very easy to see from his relationship with Tony Rezko - the indicted fund-raiser current on trial in Chicago. There seems to be "ethical" issues that hopefully will be presented during the Rezko trial.

Barach Hussein Obama will slow down America - he just doesn't have the experience to deal with all the issues facing America. With Obama - America will actually be going through another four years of the republicans because Obama will require on the job training - with America's progress moving much, much slower.

It seems that voters are voting for the sake of color and race - not if America will have a president with the experience required to deal with all the issues facing the president on day one. Obama doesn't the experience.

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON is the right president for America - she is ready to do the presidential duties on day one.

Hillary Rodham Clinton is committed to America and she will get America back on track - she is tuff as nails.

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VOTE - "MY AMERICAN MAM" - HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON - PRESIDENT!!!!

YOU GO GIRL!!!!!
YOU GO GIRL!!!!!

Clinton is trying to fool voters into believing that a vote for her is also a vote for Obama. I wonder how many people will believe that one……… Should be obvious it's a trick. That'll turn off people for sure. People don't like being tricked, makes them feel stupid. Way to go Hillary, make the voters feel that you think they are stupid. It just doesn't stop with these Clintons does it. I predict Miss. will go 70/30 for Obama. I wish the Clintons would just disappear—go back to Arkansa or Harlem or wherever.

What's the difference... Neither candidate would make good leaders.

[[For starters, Obama said, he has won twice as many states as Clinton, secured the most delegates, and captured a larger share of the overall popular vote to date.]]
Twice as many states? Yes, right, a sizeable number of those "states" are red state and the votes have been inflated because Republicans came in to vote for you. Get real Mr. Obama, the states where Clinton has won are the usual blue states where there is a possibility of a win, if there is Democratic winner of the elections. Now who is trying to hoodwink the voters. You with the inflated flimsy wins or Clinton with solid repeatable wins? I think you should grab for the very generous offer. If you really want a future as a Democrat, unlike Joe Leibermann.

"If I was in second place right now, I'd understand it," he said at a town hall meeting in Mississippi, where 33 delegates are at stake in Tuesday's primary. "But I'm in first place right now."
Really Mr. Obama! If you take away the hype, you may not even qualify for a second place.
Muhammad

Breaking News!!! Major Political Scandal!!!

Large numbers of Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses. Because they feel he would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And because they feel that a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket would be unbeatable.

Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama's. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!

As much as 30% of Obama's primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help.

If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. Because the vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. All of this vote fraud and republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is.

The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. I suggest a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket now! All democrats need to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton. So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.

Fortunately the Clinton's have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic comebacks of Hillary Clinton's. Only the Clinton's are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen.

You should be angry America. "This is not a game" (Hillary Clinton)

Sincerely
jacksmith...
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Jacksmith, You are full of crapola and baloney, just like Hillary and Bill. Go away and find a hole to crawl in. Hillary is a poor excuse of a human being, Lucifer is her guide.

Quote: "Now let's talk about Obama and the Tony Rezko trial, which is going on in Chicago as we speak, don't try to hide this from the public, with all the Hillary bashing, just let the world know what' s going on. "

OK. let's let the world know what is going on:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56868
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Anonnymouse:
First off, Mr. Obama is in NO WAY implicated in Rezko's trail. Why do you spew such garbage? Does it make you feel good to lie so blatantly? I feel sorry for you.

Okay, now, lets talk about something REAL: Hillary and Bill are facing fraud charges for over a million dollars in California. THAT is REAL! YES, they bilked Mr. Rose for over a milion dollars for her Senator of New York campaign. They did it illigally, and never reported it as a donation to the proper authorittes. Mr. Rose has the proof of Hillary demanding a million dollars from him...caught red-handed. So there you are. Talk about corrupt!!

Mr. Obama can make the best USA President in history. Opponents move forth and back trying to get the best way of pinning him down including a disguised vice presidency. Mr. Obama should keep on forging ahead

Why would anyone want a Democrat in the White House,they can't even run a Primary with out screwing it up because of thier Government Control everything ideology, and the Clintons will and do lie, cheat, misinform, steal [ White House items when they moved out, remember!] . One could go on and on but you get the idea , if your not a brain washed or brain dead idiot.

Anyone who has Bill Clinton in their pocket has my vote. We have seen what America would have in recent years (BUSH). The country was still in a decline, yet he was re-elected! On another note, Hillary is being shamed and scolded for what? a few petty political maneuvers? I suppose Obama has been so grand during this race?! We all know their backgrounds, blue,black,green or white I sincerely hope America still wants a God fearing leader. That is what links us and makes us one, not the color of our skin!

I love when people try to disparage that Obama is Muslim. I can then laugh at them for being, firstly, a moron. Then I can feel shame that they are an American, because not only are they moronic and don't check their facts (i.e. factcheck.com) but are bigots at that.

Quoting Ninak:
First off, Mr. Obama is in NO WAY implicated in Rezko's trail. Why do you spew such garbage? Does it make you feel good to lie so blatantly? I feel sorry for you.""

Ninak, what is your problem with reading comprehension?? As you will notice, I was quoting someone else's post on Obama. As you will notice, I posted the link about the Clinton's upcoming trial.

I voted for Obama twice (legally) in the Texas primary and caucus.

An apology is in order!

Again, what is your problem with reading comprehension??

Quote: ""Why does the media let her get away with calling TX such a big victory? Then, in WY, Mrs. Bill Clinton claims that it's not a big deal winning the state, she only cared about getting a good share of the delegates.""

Exactly, I live in Texas and Clinton LOST. It's all over the news here.
What victory in Texas?? Obama took the most delegates!!

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You read up and get your facts straight! There were MILLIONS of votes cast in Florida! And she won! Exacly who stayed home? The Florida DEMOCRATIC party stated this just yesterday! The turn out was the highest ever. In Minnesota, UNDECIDED was on the list. And yes, there were votes of 44%. But they included John Edwards, too. If there is a revote, Hillary still wins. In a new poll in Florida, released 2 days ago, she even beats him by MORE votes. NOT less. He also advertised in Florida! Something he leaves out of the mix! She will win Florida again! And every Super Delegate knows it. As does Obama and his supporters. That is why I feel so many do not care that these people are disenfranchised. Also, look at the new poll in Florida in the GENERAL ELECTION. She beats McCain but Obama loses to McCain. And big! WAKE UP! He cannot carry a general election. That is all there is to it. If Obama is the nominee we lose and McCain wins. Ohio is also a swing state. And she wins there, and again, big. Hillary WON the majority popular vote by 100,000 votes in Texas. The only reason he won as many delgates is urban delegate count that is unfairly biased by preexisting delegate rules and the caucus. Well we all know about the mess of this caucus in Texas. It was unfair and probably unconstitutional. I am tired of hearing "Obama won more states." I'm sorry. But it just does not matter in a General Election. If it was based on how many "states we won" in a General Election, Democrats would NOT have won a General Election in a zillion years. We all know, including the media, that we stand by the TV and "WAIT" to see if Ohio and Florida turn blue! And nothing is going to change that. As a Dem, I wish it were easier than that too, but it is not. Come November, we will be watching the states that matter. And Hillary Clinton is the only Democrat on the ticket that leads and wins in those states in both this Democratic race, and more important, in the General Election! Hillary will win the Presidency if she is our nominee. Period.

How about Hillary’s favorite Super Delegate, Eliot Spitzer, better known as client #9? How come she hasn’t disavowed him? I guess she really does stand by her man. Guess what? Character still counts.

When something does not make sense, smart people wonder, "Why then is she doing this?"

Informed experts who know math have said that Hillary Clinton will not catch Barack Obama unless she wins over 60% of the remaining primaries AND caucuses.

Clinton and Obama scored 50% and 33%, respectively in Florida. But that was with John Edwards and a couple of others in the picture and without Obama having actively campaigned.

With only Clinton and Obama, it is unlikely that Clinton will beat her 50% mark in Florida. That would make it mathematically impossible for her to catch up to Obama's delegate or popular vote count.

So, why would Clinton and her husband Bill talk about a Clinton-Obama ticket with Obama--the forerunner--as the bottom half of the ticket?

Some analysts in the media believe that the "dream ticket" talk is meant to win Obama supporters for Clinton--in other words, "2-4-1". This interpretation is quite possible, but I think it is not the complete story. It is neither what is happening nor is it the first or second motive. At best, the "2-4-1" theory is only a red herring.

This is what is really happening: Hillary Clinton has started the negotiation process for the vice president position. Sounds impossible? Keep reading.

This is motive number 2: To preserve the Clinton political legacy and set a new bar for what women can achieve in life in general and politics in particular.

This is motive number 1: In the forefront of her thoughts is breaking the barriers for her daughter, Chelsea, and other young women of hers and future generations. In other words, if "we can't get to number 1, let's take number 2 with dignity so we know number 1 is the only barrier remaining."

This is the mechanism: In her mind (though not in her heart), Hillary Clinton has already conceded defeat to Barack Obama. She is trying to strong-arm the DNC into begging her into the honor--in anticipation that the soon-to-be nominee may not choose her as a running-mate. She is overplaying her presidential ambitions in order to not "apply for" the vice presidential position, an action that would be perceived as "beneath her pedigree". However, if she were begged, she would begrudgingly accept.

The conversation would go something like this:

DNC: "C'mon Hillary, we can't break up the party. Barack has in every category, has won more states, delegates, popular votes, and Red states; has brought so many new people to the process, has a documented cross-over appeal (which is desirable when running against John McCain), and has raised more money than ever has been done in US polical history without using the standard methods and strategies."

"He has run a virtually flawless campaign, managed over $200 million, and has proven that one can win without resorting to negative, demeaning, and partially-honest techniques."

"Finally, he has demonstrated that he can run a large budget, staff, and (having overcome, in such style, the barrier that you set for him 12 months ago) has proven that he can put together a winning team to develop efficient and effective strategies to solve the problems of the American people. Barack has simply redefined 'How to do politics'. His philosophies and strategies seem to resonate with the people who believe in his ability to make good judgment about the issues that are most important to them; hence the movement!"

"Now, we know that you and Bill are two of the most powerful people in our party and that's why we're spending time resolving this. However, everyone, including the Super Delegates, agrees that we should solve this dilemma by offering you the opportunity to be Barack's running mate."

HILLARY: "Are you kidding me!? How dare you? After all I have done for this party? After all my husband and I have done? Ted (Kennedy), John (Lewis), Al (Gore), how dare you all? Joseph (Biden) won't you say anything? After all we have been through together? We gave you 8 of your best years. I will not take the position of vice president. I am a Clinton!"

DNC: "Please do."

HILLARY: "Will not."

DNC: "Please do."

HILLARY: "Will not."

DNC: "Please do. It's our last offer"

HILLARY: "Well, okay, if you insist."

Go figure. This negotiation won't last long. If Hillary does not win Pennsylvania by more than 5 points, the negotiations will conclude in the middle of May, Barack Obama will come to agreement by the end of May, and the Dynamic Duo will be announced by the beginning of June.

Democrats will be happy and Republicans will panic.

#33 Jack is correct. I know of many republicans that voted for obama in the primary for that reason. The poles mean absolutely nothing. He is the weaker of the democrats and he will be slaughtered in the general. Quite a clever move from the GOP. Munipulation at its best. Part of what is wrong with our electoral process. Go Hillary you are our girl!!!!!!!

There you go again, PMC. It is Michigan, not Minnesota. Not once but twice, you made the error.

Quote: "Hillary will win the Presidency if she is our nominee. Period."

She won't be your nominee. If she is, she stole the nomination.
If she is, the Democratic party is ruined for years to come.

Who stayed home in Florida?? Well just about all the posters from Florida, who said they stayed home because their vote didn't matter.

What a ticket! Hillary for President, Yeh, Bill for Vise President Yeh! and let there be 'suckers' in the oval office all day, ( new law, nobody under the age of 80 is allowed into the oval office when a 'clinton' is present or president or whatever)
Quote "those that are to smart to go into politics, are doomed to be governed by idiots" end of quote. Plato ( see nothing changes)

Most of Hillary's and Obama's ideals and policies are the same. They will both make excellent leaders. Bush's approval rating has dropped not because Bush is incompetent but because he competently lead the country towards dysfunction. Republican conservatism no longer functions because their is an assumption that violence will solve our problems, that be occupying a country we will somehow be more secure, by excusing the wealthiest that they do not have to be good citizens and pay their due taxes while they use the government resources more than both middle class and working class combined. The issue is about fairness. My hope is that their is a Clinton-Obama or Obama-Clinton ticket. And I also believe that after these debates are finished there will be because progressive thinkers KNOW how to work TOGETHER. Right now is a time of debate of who will make the better leader.

A ticket with Obama and Clinton would defeat McCain. That is the most important that that must happen. If McCain is elected it will be 4 more years of the same thing as Bush. The war will likely expand and the economy will continue to decline and the national debt continues to increase.

I suspect that much of the apparent disdain that some "supporters" of one candidate have towards the other in internet posts is actually a ploy. These are posted by conservatives who pretend to support one candidate and bad mouth the other in the hope of dividing. The AM radio creeps, fox news, and conservative blogs and in full swing with 'operation divide and conquer. Don't let them win.