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Obama responds to Clinton in Rhode Island

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor March 1, 2008 05:08 PM

By Lisa Wangsness, Globe Staff

PROVIDENCE -- Barack Obama found himself today in the same Rhode Island College gymnasium where Clinton spoke last weekend -- and gave her a taste of her own medicine.

Last Sunday, Clinton addressed several thousand people, where she spoke sarcastically about Obama’s themes of hope and bipartisanship, saying she knew better than to think that "The sky will open, the light will come down, celestial choirs will be singing, and everyone will know we should do the right thing, and the world will be perfect."

Today, addressing a crowd of more than 5,000 -- not including about 5,000 more who were turned away for lack of space, Obama referred to those remarks.

"She was here, right? And she was saying, 'Oh, you know, he thinks that the clouds will part, and he's so naïve, and he thinks he can wave a magic wand,' " he said, as the crowd laughed.

He said she had also mocked his supporters.

"They say, 'Oh, they just like him because he talks good, they're just infatuated.' Well, let me tell you something, I bet there are a lot of people here who have been through hard times," he said, as the crowd cheered. "Hope is not wide-eyed optimism…. Hope is believing and then working and fighting for things."

The boisterous crowd cheered after virtually every line Obama uttered. One person fainted -- an occurrence that has become routine for Obama, who told the crowd to drink some juice. "If we can open some of the doors, it might cool things off a little bit," he said calmly.

While Clinton has long been expected to carry Rhode Island in Tuesday's primary, over the last week, the race has grown closer. A recent Brown University poll shows Obama within 8 percentage points of Clinton.

29 comments so far...
  1. Once again, a gushing, infatuated "reporter" shows us just how vacuous Senator Obama can be. "Hope is believing and then working and fighting for things." Gosh! How astute! That certainly gave Senator Clinton "a taste of her own medicine" didn't it.

    Posted by Stephen Pinkerton March 1, 08 05:57 PM
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  1. I listened to Hillary speak in Dallas Texas today and as a hispanic woman found her comment, " I need you to gather your mops and brooms and help me clean the Whitehouse" insulting. As a Californian I would of rather heard her say," I need you to gather your laptops and intellect and help me clean up the Whitehouse. Any woman should have been insulted regardless of race. She took woman 10 steps backwards with that comment.

    Posted by Ann March 1, 08 06:00 PM
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  1. Hillary is deriding hope!.....But she HOPES to be the next president of the USA. Isn´t that a contradiction? If she doesn´t really believe in hope, well, it would make sense for her to quit now!!

    Posted by hotstuff March 1, 08 06:23 PM
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  1. Jim Jones' followers also drank the juice and look what happened to them. Obama's followers should review his World Poverty Plan, and they will see that the annual cost of this plan costs more than the war in Iraq. The plan costs over 4x more than the tax rebate that is being paid to good honest working americans later this year. Once his followers realize how expensive true liberalism really is, they will probably want to drink the juice as well.

    Posted by johnr March 1, 08 06:39 PM
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  1. Typical Globe cheerleading ... a ton of Massachusetts people were in RI today for Clinton, you don't read that.

    Posted by Cagey March 1, 08 07:02 PM
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  1. Barack Obama was appointed to Senate Oversight Committee on Afghanistan. He has used this "appointment" (not earned) to brag often and drop the name of that country during his sermons. Pretending he has done something. We now know he hasn't done a thing. His excuse for not holding even one meeting of this committee in almost FOURTEEN MONTHS was that he was too busy running a (premature) campaign for President. Was I watching that debate answer alone? Anyone who would accept that answer and continue to consider voting for him for even Senator again has certainly got some real thinking to do.

    The Audacity is that he showed up for this interview without a proper resume. The Audacity is that he has used his appointments and many other things to pretend he is who he is not. The Audacity is that he has used the voices and words of great people like MLK, JFK and Jefferson - whom he could not hold a candle to - and has pretended they are his own. He is a total fake.

    Mr. Obama is running for American Idol. And he is quite an actor. I'll give him that much. He can even have that prize.

    But he cannot have this job.

    Posted by Chris March 1, 08 07:06 PM
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  1. I find it so hard to beleive senator Clinton does not understand that we americans are'nt looking for a savior but a leader that beleives in our ability to get something done for ourselves. A leader that can organize,stabilize and mobilize us and our government to become what we were in the past, a great country and not have to hang our heads in shame for what we have become. YES WE CAN be whole again.

    Posted by J price March 1, 08 07:24 PM
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  1. Sorry to say that this might be the first election that I will vote republican. I truly do not believe Obama has done anything meaningful while in the senate. I have not heard what he will solidly done. He has not told us how he will leave the region of Iraq safely. I do not believe that Barak has the experience to do the job. Not because lacks experience, but because he has not done one simple thing and got all the Americans fooled, Most of you will not agree so keep on saying yes we can, but yes we can if we work for it, but will he?

    Posted by Mark March 1, 08 09:42 PM
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  1. I'm glad Obama responded to the Clinton attack. She resorts to a critique of Obama's ability to inspire by taking a cheap shot again, as if there were no details backing his plans (there are - just go to his website). Instead she goes on trying to convince us of her great experience vs. Obama. As much as experience counts, even more important is the ability to learn from it. It was the experienced Hillary who voted to support Bush's drive to war, instead of fighting it. It was the newcomer Obama who opposed the war from the start. It was the experienced Hillary, with huge advantages in money recognition polling and connections who ran a campaign of missteps, mixed messages, and cheap shots. It is the newcomer who outsmarted her at every turn. I ask you, who sounds like they would make the better president?

    Posted by Frank March 1, 08 09:58 PM
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  1. i have never voted for a democrat for president. i am voting for obama in ri on tuesday simply to send that self-serving/lying/manipulating woman and her womanizing hillbilly husband back where they belong - on the outside looking in.

    i will then regain form and vote for john mccain in november. it's a clinton-esque type move, and I LOVE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!! Join me please - yes we can!

    Posted by tom March 1, 08 10:02 PM
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  1. I am emboldened and delighted to see some rational and mature reaction to Obama! I don't understand how a clear thinker can arrive at any other conclusion but that Obama is an excellent orator, and not too much more. He is inexperienced, naive on a variety of issues, and relies on the insecurities of a certain class of people to propel him to the White House.

    I will grant that Obama is probably an intelligent legal scholar, and that he knows how to whip up the dreams of a particular type of crowd, but our country does not need yet another celebrity; it needs a mature, solid leader who understands where we are as a country, what we need, and how to work within the system to realize our potential.

    Another post made reference to American Idol. I think the author hit the nail right on the head. Not only is Obama trying to win this title, but the majority of people who are voting for him, I posit, are die hard fans who've never benefited from critical thought.

    At this juncture, I would be embarrassed to have Obama as our president. It would show the rest of the world that we have indeed become nothing but a pop culture, devoid of substance, infatuated with our own idea of ourselves. I want someone who can do more than inspire me, I want someone who can lead this country.

    Posted by JohnnyP March 1, 08 10:04 PM
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  1. J Price needs to learn to spell. Believe.... I before E except after C. Spelled it twice that way so obviously is not a typo. And "are'nt" If you can't abbreviate just spell it out....are not...or correction aren't.

    Posted by Barbara March 1, 08 10:11 PM
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  1. Just what is all this experience Clinton talks about? Standing in a reception line as her husband greeted people? All I can think of is her vote on invading Iraq. Now she is sorry she voted for the war. Duh Hillary!

    Posted by Mike M March 1, 08 10:26 PM
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  1. I'm starting to wonder if this fainting thing is not staged considering it happens so frequently.

    Posted by Merv March 1, 08 10:31 PM
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  1. I'll ask it again here: Hillary boasts of 35 yrs experience and being ready on Day 1 but just what is her "credentials or experience" as far as the presidency?
    Read her bio, I have, and she was asked this in one debate. She has a commendable educational record is undeniably intelligent, a trained lawyer who has worked children's and social issues after college. Was a corporate paid lawyer once. She was first lady for 2 terms, traveled significantly and attended conferences as first lady. And she's now in 2nd term as a Senator. All commendable. But that makes her ready for White House, commander and chief, or give her experience for presidency! She really has much more experience than Obama. Come on! Ron Paul and many others are her senior in many ways.
    Worse of all, what is more "old school" and "politics as usual", than she and McCain. You want the same old same old. Seems many do, and it makes me shudder. Unfortunately Paul is unelectable and I already wasted a vote once for Nader, so now I will take my chances with Obama, who to me is genuine. Hillary and Bill just want the office and I don't want Bill around either. Stop carping folks and get real! God save the U.S.

    Posted by Rich from Everett March 1, 08 10:33 PM
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  1. To respond to Chris, and all the other Hillary people: SHE is the fake. A 35 year record of achievement? Ummm, what exactly did she achieve? She has stood next to people who have achieved, and now wants us to believe that she is now qualified to hold their jobs because she was nearby while they held office. Obama is vacuous?

    Posted by David J March 1, 08 10:46 PM
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  1. Hilary is SCARY! I am a dem but would vote for McCain if she wins the nomination.

    Posted by Faye T March 1, 08 11:05 PM
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  1. I'll ask it again here: Hillary boasts of 35 yrs experience and being ready on Day 1 but just what are/is her "credentials or experience" as far as the presidency?
    Read her bio, I have, and she was asked this in one debate. She has a commendable educational record is undeniably intelligent, a trained lawyer who has worked children's and social issues after college. Was a corporate paid lawyer once. She was first lady for 2 terms, traveled significantly and attended conferences as first lady. And she's now in 2nd term as a Senator. All commendable. But that makes her ready for White House, commander and chief, or give her experience for presidency! Does she really have much more experience than Obama? Come on! Ron Paul and many others are her senior in many ways.
    Worse of all, what is more "old school" and "politics as usual", than she and McCain. You want the same old same old. Seems many do, and it makes me shudder. Unfortunately Paul is unelectable and I already wasted a vote once for Nader, so now I will take my chances with Obama, who to me is genuine. Hillary and Bill just want the office and I don't want Bill around either. Stop carping folks and get real! God save the U.S.

    Posted by Rich from Everett, MA March 1, 08 11:27 PM
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  1. J price, you sound like a walking sound bite. 'organize', 'stabilize' (apparently spell checked doesn't work for J price) and 'mobilize' are words that were used by another good-looked, well-spoken liberal political leader.

    His name was Vladamir Lennin.

    Maybe you should take a good, hard look at how the socialist soviet union turned out before you cast your vote to take this great nation down the same failed path.

    Posted by Neil Bailey March 2, 08 12:03 AM
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  1. Yes, Obama is a savior in search of a cause. Everytime he is cornered or asked a difficult question, he comes up with that repetitive worn out phrase, " was against the war from the start. "He wasnt' there at the start." The question he keeps avoiding is: What will you do on Day One" You are ready to do what? Yes, he did flub the question on why he had no hearings on Afghanistan? He responded, he was "busy> and referred to the campaign. He was on the taxpayer's payroll and too busy? Just like Deval Patrick. I heard he is in Iowa and a few other places. He is on our dime. How much sick leave and vacation time does he get? Why does he feel he can just take as much time as he wants to campaign for Obama? Does Obama list it as an in-kind donation? Did our employees, security etc. travel with
    him? He is spending our money on a candidate some of us do not support. : He
    has only been on the job for a year and has spent more time campaigning. than working. He is worst than Romney going out of state more than in-state work. What a disappointment. He, too, peddled hope, hype and hyperbole and look what we got.,,,,,,,wide eyed pied piper!

    Posted by Proud of America March 2, 08 12:11 AM
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  1. Tom, if you were a TRUE conservative you would vote FOR hillary. believe me, I can't STAND her or her lying cheating husband, but that isn't the point. The point is this: the longer she hangs around, the more divided the democrats become. This isn't a matter of her winning or losing - she's already LOST. This is a matter of hopefully ripping the democratic party in half for perhaps the next ten years. Hillary will do ANYTHING to win, including trampling over the very people that got her to the party. When its finally clear to her its over, she will go with a 'scorched earth' policy rather than bow out gracefully.

    As Rush and Howie have both said, in the primary, a vote for Hillary is a vote for the conservative cause.

    Posted by Neil Bailey March 2, 08 12:32 AM
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  1. The Globe ought to watch her language and at least try to hold on to the pretense of impartiality. "A taste of her own medicine?" What 's next? Does she get her mouth washed out with soap for being “sarcastic?”

    Let's not buy into the fainting shtick, either. There are plenty of bloggers telling their tales of having to wait for Obama to show up at rallies standing for long hours in hot arenas with no food or water. If Obama wants to be one of the Beatles, I'm all for it. The Globe should be providing some real scrutiny, not propagating the fairy tale.

    Posted by Lilac Brown March 2, 08 01:19 AM
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  1. Obama says 20 million primary voters can's be wrong. In fact, 120 million voters can be wrong. Evidence is GW was elected President--not once but twice. Can 20 million primary voters be wrong? YES THEY CAN.

    Posted by Louanne Poisson March 2, 08 03:06 AM
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  1. Obama can afford to continue hoodwinking the people of Rhode Island, Texas, Vermont and Ohio with his "just words" platitudes. It is refreshing to know that people in Massachusetts have not all gone mad with the Obamamania. The difference is that Massachusetts residents have experienced first hand that change has yet to be realized in our state after voting for Deval. Perhaps we should have given Kerry Healy the opportunity to prove her worth rather than a businessman with no political experience whatsoever. Alas, nationwide many are voting on the same change mantra that David Axelrod has so cunningly coined for both Deval And Obama. I can't wait to tell some of my naive friends "I told you so."

    Posted by Charly March 2, 08 03:21 AM
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  1. NBC's Lisa Myers and Jim Popkin report that Hillary Clinton has declined to return $170,000 in campaign contributions from individuals at a company accused of widespread sexual harassment, and whose CEO is a disbarred lawyer with a criminal record, federal campaign records show. The federal government has accused the Illinois management consulting firm, International Profit Associates, or IPA, of a brazen pattern of sexual harassment including "sexual assaults," "degrading anti-female language" and "obscene suggestions." Sen. Clinton's spokesman, Howard Wolfson, told NBC News in a statement that the senator decided to keep the funds because the lawsuit is "ongoing" and because none of the sexual harassment allegations has been proven in court." This is the usual Camp Clinton Hypocrisy Spin. And what National Security Experience Does She Really Have?

    Hillary Clinton has no Credibility on national security since she cast her Yes vote to authorize war in Iraq. There where other Senators who voted NO! They knew to vote yes was to automatically Invade a Country that had nothing to do with 911 but all about OIL. That is not Judgment and it is the wrong kind of Experience. Some say who know that she and Bill have the agenda to get Bill a III, Presidency, that should not be allowed. It was Bill who spoke first after their loss in South Carolina!

    Posted by Julie W. March 2, 08 05:38 AM
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  1. Can any conscientious American say to themselves that - after 20 consecutive years of Bush/Clinton presidencies - we should now extend it to 28 years? Over one quarter of a century mired in the mud!!
    Each side has served as the rhetorical counterbalance for the other over the last 2 decades. They fight over the great issues of the day - the trade agreements (NAFTA/China), control of greenhouse gases, health care reform, social security, the Iraq war, immigration - and have either made the horribly wrong decisions or just done nothing on each issue for 20 years now.

    Then each time a presidential election comes around we stupid Americans elect Clinton to get rid of Bush or a Bush to get rid of Clinton!! Who's next after 8 years of Hillary - Jeb Bush? Maybe we can reach a half a century then. Will there be anything left of the Promise of America?

    Are we not a great nation? Are there not bright and capable Americans outside of these 2 seriously flawed families that can lead us better and, yes - give us hope.

    We owe it to our country - and to ourselves - to break the Bush/Clinton cycle that has resolved so little and diminished our reputation so much for 2 decades now. We desperately need to move forward - change our direction - and give the country a chance. The only conscientious vote for America is to:

    VOTE OBAMA!

    Posted by Harry Hoe March 2, 08 09:17 AM
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  1. REAL News You won't See on TV: Dick Cheney's NEXT Big Energy MONOPOLY Power RIPOFF:

    Obama is the pre-packaged "New & Improved Chocolate Flavor" Presidential candidate PRODUCT - being hyped & PUSHED by GE and its WHOLLY-Owned subsidiaries NBC & MSNBC...along with Westinghouse & its subsidiary CBS...while slamming the Clintons all day every day. (Assisted by...CNN/FOX/ and a lot of newspaper & radio media dependent on advertising$$.)

    GE is the 2nd largest corporation on the planet.

    Obama is IN with the Nuclear Industry: Excelon Corp of Illinois has been one of his largest contributors from his entry into politics to the present. Excelon is the largest nuke operator on the planet;owns Con-Ed of NY; more nukes in Illinois than any other state.

    GE, Westinghouse, Excelon & 3 consortiums of other companies are planning to build 29 new nuclear power plants. Their Wholly-Owned & Wholly Influenced "News" media are selling the Obama Product because Obama is in favor of Nukes.

    In 2005 Obama Voted FOR the Cheney Energy Bill (H.R.6) which ENABLED the nuke industry to make its Plans to build 29 new nukes-by Guaranteeing Taxpayer Payback of any nuke loans that default. (No nukes were built for the past 30 years because the banks wouldn't loan the money - too risky)

    Obama Voted FOR the Cheney Energy Bill-despite the fact the Congressional Budget Office rated the risk of default on the nuke loans at 50% or greater. (Does that sound like...GOOD...JUDGMENT to You?)

    [NY Times has several articles about the nuke plans & a map showing all 29 locations; Wikipedia covers the subject]

    Clinton Voed AGAINST the Cheney Energy Bill and said her Energy Plan does not include nuclear.

    ? "Its about the FUTURE...Turn The PAGE" ?

    Nope. ts about Turning the PAGE BACK to the PAST: Obsloete 50 yr old nuke power plants-the dirtiest most expensive kind/centrally-controlled MONOPOLY POWER-instead of inventing New, Clean, Green De-Centralized inexpensive Energy.

    An ad campaign has already begun on the TV media to re-package & re-name nuclear power plants as: GREEN & CLEAN -for-everybody too young to remember the 1970's anti-nuke movement and all the Bad News about nuclear energy.

    Don't be taken in by the ad campaigns-Google:'nuclear waste dumps' & read about the hundreds of BILLIONS of gallons of nuke waste at the Hanford Washington dump; 140 tons of plutonium stored at Rocky Flats, Colorado; Barnwell, South Carolina; leaking into groundwater and rivers; plutonium released into the air around Denver from 500 instances of fires at Rocky Flats; stored on-site at every nuke reactor in America...presenting hundreds of potential "dirty bomb" targets for terrorists.

    Is it true that Obama takes No Contributions/NO MONEY from Registered Federal Lobbyists?

    Yes. It's a LawyerSpeak/Trick of: Speaking a Small truth covering up a Big Lie.

    Nope, doesn't take money from REGISTERED FEDERAL Lobbyists.

    DOES take money from STATE Lobbyists, Not Registered Lobbyists, AND the wives, husbands, law partners, aunts, uncles cousins...of Registered Federal Lobbyists. Gets money from the same big corporate donors as any other candidate.

    Obama's campaign finances are involved in the prosecution (by Patrick Fitzgerald)and trial of his friend of 20 years Antoin Rezko. Some of the funds... allegedly...extorted by Rezko went into Obama's campaign coffers. Curiously, Iraqi Power Plants amd fraud are also involved in Rezko's trial. (Google: Obama -Rezko- Alsammarae-Auichi- IRAQ POWER PLANTS)

    GE & the same wealthy people who sold the "new & improved vanilla flavor" Presidential PRODUCTS: Reagan & Bush/s 1 & 2 - are behind the massive ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN to sell you OBAMA.

    At the beginning of this campaign season a large majority of voters were looking forward to electing Clinton. Then Obama stepped in and started the dirty campaigning that has created the DIVISION he so hypocritically decries. Obama played "the race card" so he could win in South Carolina. He was caught red-handed playing that race card-but the media blamed it on Clinton-even though they all knew they were pushing the Big Lie.

    With nearly ALL "the mainstream media" pimping for Obama & slamming, smearing, and lying about the Clintons-it is truly amazing enough voters have seen thru the Media-Created Obama "movement"-for Clinton to STILL be in the race.

    The only way a very small minority can CONTROL a very large Majority is: DIVIDE & CONQUER-Exactly the same Republican Strategy/Deception they have successfully pulled for most of the last century And ALL of this century, so far. . .

    GE, the nuke industry/wealthy have hedged their bets & they will get Billions of your money via 29 new nukes IF either Obama or McCain is elected President.

    Ladies & Gentlemen, Dads & Moms buy nothing GE & Westinghouse are selling - not Obama, not a washing machine, a dishwasher, 29 nuke power plants, or a garbage disposer .... because there is no garbage disposer for Radioactive Nuke Waste. Do not allow them to poison the earth and your children anymore.

    Posted by elme March 2, 08 06:38 PM
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  1. Hillary's vote in 2002 was a vote to support the US resolution in the UN for unrestricted inspections. I don't understand the hype. Any 'informed' citizen at that time knew that Bush could have declared war without the consent of Congress, citing Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, which provides that "The president shall be Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States." Presidents have generally cited Article II, Section 2 as their authority to send soldiers into combat.

    In contrast, I find Obama’s position on the war disturbing. After his one single speech at an anti-war rally in the most liberal precinct in Illinois, Obama did not oppose the war at all. He did not oppose the war in the Senate. He did not even campaign against the war when ran for the Senate, contrary to what he said in the debate last week. Only when it became politically expedient to oppose the war recently, he dragged his old speech out of the closet and has been distorting Clinton's position in order to win. Here is Obama's 2004 Senate campaign website. Where is the anti-war rhetoric he is using today? http://web.archive.org/web/20030603200043/www.obamaforillinois.com/index.shtml
    In 2004, when Kerry was running for president, Obama had plenty of excuses to offer for Kerry's 2002 vote, which was the same as that of Clinton and of the majority of the Senate Democrats.

    Hillary Clinton's speech on the 2002 vote is here http://clinton.senate.gov/speeches/iraq_101002.html
    One can see that what she said then is exactly what she is saying now about her position then. Excerpts from the 2002 Clinton speech:

    "...Even though the resolution before the Senate is not as strong as I would like in requiring the diplomatic route first and placing highest priority on a simple, clear requirement for unlimited inspections, I will take the President at his word that he will try hard to pass a UN resolution and will seek to avoid war, if at all possible.

    Because bipartisan support for this resolution makes success in the United Nations more likely, and therefore, war less likely, and because a good faith effort by the United States, even if it fails, will bring more allies and legitimacy to our cause, I have concluded, after careful and serious consideration, that a vote for the resolution best serves the security of our nation. If we were to defeat this resolution or pass it with only a few Democrats, I am concerned that those who want to pretend this problem will go way with delay will oppose any UN resolution calling for unrestricted inspections.
    ...
    A vote for it is not a vote to rush to war; it is a vote that puts awesome responsibility in the hands of our President and we say to him - use these powers wisely and as a last resort. And it is a vote that says clearly to Saddam Hussein - this is your last chance - disarm or be disarmed."

    I hope RI residents will all vote for Hillary tomorrow!

    Posted by Wilson Kerry March 3, 08 10:47 AM
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  1. All one has to do is look at Saturday Night Live over the past 2 weeks to realize how ridiculous is the post contending that GE/NBC is making a corporate decision to sink Hillary. SNL should be getting paid by the Clinton campaign, they have been so supportive. Hillary links to them from her own campaign website. Yeah, NBC and GE are really trying to sink Hillary, with two weeks of pro Hillary skits prior to tomorrows primary.

    Posted by Frank March 3, 08 12:56 PM
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