College paper picks Clinton
In something of an against-the-grain pick, Hillary Clinton won the endorsement today of the independent student newspaper at the University of Pennsylvania.
The Daily Pennsylvanian came down on the side of Clinton's experience over Barack Obama's charisma.
"We want to believe that Sen. Barack Obama can accomplish all he promises. His soaring rhetoric and compelling vision have inspired us and many other students," the endorsement said. "But while Obama's charisma far outshines that of Sen. Hillary Clinton, her public service, political experience and tenacity tell us not only 'Yes we can' but also 'How we can.' As such, we endorse Clinton for the Democratic Party's nomination for president.
"Our endorsement is not a rejection of Obama's leadership qualities. But choosing the president of the United States is too important a decision to make based on hope alone," the paper continued. "After finishing his term in the Senate and better showing us what he can do for the American people, Obama could one day be a remarkable president. Clinton, on the other hand, is ready to lead this nation now. A successful champion for change, her experience in the Senate and as first lady gives her a better understanding of how Washington works. She has the ability to turn policy into reality. And her mastery of causes central to the Democratic Party's platform makes her better suited to challenge presumptive Republican nominee John McCain."
Obama has drawn far more enthusiastic support from college students and younger voters than has Clinton so far. His rallies on campuses have been rapturous affairs before thousands, while Clinton has dispatched her daughter Chelsea to a series of lower-key, smaller events at colleges.



according to politico this now makes the university paper count
850 for Obama
3 for Clinton
1 for Kucinich
Just what Obama needs...the elitist Penn coming out for Hillary. Thanks Penn!
HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON is the right president for America.
VOTE - "MY AMERICAN MAMA" - HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON - PRESIDENT!!!
YOU GO GIRL!!!
YOU GO GIRL!!!
YOU GO GIRL!!!
GO ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION!!!
GO ALL THE WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE!!!
WOW! That'll sway about three votes.
Hillary can lead us, they're right about that. Lead us into more years of fake politics and negative rhetoric.
I was a college student in the 60's. We would never have fallen for Hillary Clinton's "experience" message. I can't relate to this level of conservatism among college students. This editorial sounds like it was written by a Clinton campaign staffer. I've studied Obama's web-site, read his books, listened to his speeches -- and there's plenty of how we can. Plenty enough for me. Maybe, in the long run, it will take the older generation to get him elected, those of us who remember how empowering idealism can be, those of us who came up through the Civil Rights movement and the Women's movement...
Great job! And very well said. Both candidates are good. But, Clinton is ready now to lead our nation. We are in too much trouble right now to take a change. Clinton 2008!
Hmmmm... honest choice, or a college paper attempting to get its own press and make waves by making an unorthodox, "against-the-grain" endorsement?
This goes to show that Obama does not have a monopoly on younger voters. I am seventeen years old, and I will be able to vote in the General Election in November. I am a strong supporter of Hillary because, like the Daily Pennsylvanian said, she wants change AND has the knowledge necessary to accomplish that change.
Hillary cares for and fights for the American people. She has a proven record, spanning 35 years as a lawyer and First Lady and Senator, of doing so. Make the smart choice and go for Hillary.
CLINTON IN '08!
seems the U Penn editorial board has the same passion for truthfulness as their candidate of choice. "A successful champion for change"? Really? No, really? Would that be her great Senatorial accomplishments? Or her wonderful success at health care reform?
Silly season, indeed.
Thank goodness, words that finally make sense. I think this is the best and clearest endorsement that I've read in the last 15 months. Good Job!
I just hope the media will pick up on this well written endorsement.
CD Hillary 08
Who is the Radical Hard Left Liberal? Will that win our presidency?
Not likely anytime soon. And for good reason it is slanted toward one side of the fence.
When we talk about change as a gray area then it is ambiguous. No one knows what that means so it is easy to say yes. Once it begins to take shape and form as taxes, sharp cuts or painful realizations then a different kind of reality fills that gray space. That is when disappointment sets in.
Change is overrated. Anyone who says we need a lot or sweeping changes is obviously one of the media beneficiaries of all the obama campaign FLUSH money.
Look at the man behind the curtain. Where is all the new money really coming from? Just some odd Internet artifact or is there something – someone driving cash into the trough?
I’ve never seen money cluster in this size and shape without an artificial stimulant. In the dotcom boom no one wanted to see that the lines of cash did not connect with any substance or reality. When it came crashing down then the disappointments of that LACK set in.
A smart leader can make small corrections to the big machine that will have a net positive benefit. We are still the worlds greatest super power, but if people insist on BIG CHANGE then the radical change they employ will alter that forever.
At least Hilary can’t get caught with her pants down while someone is giving her something. But ALL men do at some point in time or another when they are idolized by hordes of groupies.
No insult to Cindy but she certainly looks like a trophy wife. Not someone who would know how women work to support their families come hell or high water... Only one candidate knows how to work that kind of magic.
Obama's wife recently claimed that “we don't know her” yeah, and so when we do what will we know? This is not a secure image of our first lady.
How will Obama's wife shake out against Cindy?
Hilary is such an easy target. It is absurd for obama to say that his attacking a female opponent is going to be the same as coming up against the Republican's.
Republican’s like the idea of torture, they stay up for it. It is part of their recreational activities. Obama has no substance, grit or wisdom. He is untested and un-vetted.
He only has superlative qualities to his adoring fan base. Do we really want a rock star for president? He doesn't even play an instrument.
as you can see it's time for change. the change being young people jumping for obama to clinton. so kate your count is subject to change also.
I am so happy to find some young people with the intelligence to understand that it will take more than hope and charisma to get the important work of the presidency done. Especially at this time following such a disastrous administration.
I am one of those older white women who support Hillary. I am among the very many of them who are educated and successful. Apparently, CNN can only find "old uneducated white women".
Thanks for your intelligent stand, Daily Pennsylvanian.
Big surprise. Governor Rendell and Mayor Nutter are both alumns, and guess who their supporting? As a resident of the Philadelphia, I expected the rest of Pennsyltucky to go for Hill. Big Ed owes the Clintons from his days as Chairman of the Democratic Party, and Hizzoner Nutter is still chapped over Obama endorsing Chaka Fattah in the mayoral primary last year. My opnion of U of P students or at least the editorial board at the Daily Pennsylvanian) just dropped a few more pegs, however.
Isn't it a little late in the game to be endorsing a candidate that is mathmatically unable to win?
Not surprising.
I went to Penn. Penn is basically a colony of the children of rich Long Islanders, who have always gone ga-ga for the Clintons.
In the end, I would take a Daily Pennsylvanian endorsement as a contrarian indicator.
Isn't it a little late in the game to be endorsing a candidate that is mathmatically unable to win?
A successful champion for Wal-mart and herself.
"Kate the Great"--you need to go to "fact check" before trying to pass off what you wrote as factual. Don't let bitterness get in the way of the truth!
I was starting to worry that our college students were more interested ina rock star persona than an experienced candidate for President of the United States. And we must have experience in the same way these students will graduate and work through the ranks of knowledge and experience to aspire to their goals. The studets at the University of Pennsylvania have restored my faith in our future generation.
Thank you University of Pennsylvania!
I value his inexperience.
Good for the Daily Pennsylvanian for endorsing Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination. Their reasoning is practical and sound.
Experience? Hillary Clinton has experience? So does the White House Sous Chef. Can we endorse him instead?
We'd be better off. Clinton has never done anything worthwhile, except ride on the coat tails of her husband. Obama cannot be trusted. I really, really wanted to vote Democratic in November. Maybe the party should figure out the correct candidate to shove down the farmers' throats in 2012.
Farmers? Yes, the small population States choose the front-runner. Why? It's easier for the party to control the selection process. Who's to say that all the big population States didn't want to vote for "Joe Blow?" They couldn't, because the little States were heavily influenced to eliminate "Joe Blow" in the earlier primaries and caucases.
We're all being controlled. Vote Independent.
Endorsements by newspapers should taken with a grain of salt. Obama may have many more endorsements, but they dont translate to votes. Obama had the endorsement of every major newspaper in Texas, but lost the Texas primary decisively by 100,000 votes.
Via Free Press!! There wasn't even a hint of a possibility that this paper would consider endorsing John McCain. It was just a matter of which leftist to support. So much for free thinking. So much for an independent free press. No one from the right need apply.
yes, but this is the university of pennsylvania NOW, right before the Pennsylvannia primary.
All these people that endorse Hillary seem to ignore the single most obvious issue: Hillary is a proven liar and a crook.
We shouldn't really find this very surprising. Hillary has all the Lobbyist backing her up 110% and with the Super Delegates already pledging their allegiance to her too. The "real puppeteers" cant have Barack in office because they are not in control of his strings, one of the more important issues that this University seems to omit causally while telling us all about how much more qualified Hillary is. All she is qualified in doing is being a puppet for the masters who control the money.... Just look up the tax return info on both candidates and go from there.
THE REASONS FOR ENDORSEMENT ARE SOUND!
THE HOPE FOR OBAMA IN THE FUTURE IS REALISTIC
THE NEED FOR SENATOR CLINTON IS NOW!
IT IS HEARTENING FOR THE YOUNGER GENERATION TO BE THIS WISE
I value his inexperience...
"A successful champion for change, her experience in the Senate and as first lady gives her a better understanding of how Washington works." - Daily Pennsylvanian
They couldn't have said it better. Hillary is their choice candidate because she has, "a better understanding of how Washington works."
Washington doesn't work for the American people or the common good. It's about paybacks, kickbacks, power, and profit. Call me a cynic, unpatriotic, etc--the human condition hasn't changed folks! Why do you think we still read Shakespeare?
I'm a senior at Penn and I can guarantee you that the overwhelming majority of us are in obamas camp the do is ruled by a small and out of touch constituency
I am sorry to hear this news... Yes, Sen Clinton has spent more time in Washington. She has more people to respect/concern in Washington (who might have helped putting her in the position where she is now. That is exactly why she can not make the kind of change America needs today.
PS.
Just for your information, many foreign people and immigrants in the US seem to like Sen Obama. I myselt is a Japanese American, and I feel that Sen Clinton is "I am America and so can you" type, like Sen McCain. America cannot stand alone anymore.
Finally some kids that get it? Hope isn't everything you need. Experience is the single most critical thing this Country needs. Hope is second. Both candidates offer hope, BHO doesn't own the patent on hope.
hillary cant win......obama cant win........the super delegates will in the end opt for gore..............
So there's a fad for Obama on college campuses, is there?
Groupthink will only take you so far...
I think the endorsement is a personal choice (that of the author of this article) and not the opinion of the entire student body whole. Obama has all the experience needed to deal with the Presidency...coupled with his strength of character and forward thinking approach (away from the "business as usual , line my pockets " Washington agenda of Hillary Clinton) He is head and shoulders above a Clinton or McCain!
Nonsense. Did anybody watch that debate last night. I witnessed Senator Clinton make statements such as "We will figure it out" and "I don't know the facts" how can you endorse somebody that simply "Doesn't know the facts"? These are Presidential Candidates, it's mandatory that they are well versed in the facts. How can you defend something you have no knowledge about? Clinton speaks of appointing committee's to solve our problems. Thats no different than what Bush has in place, and look at our Beloved country now. I'd rather take a solid risk for change than remain complacent and stick with the usual formula that has resulted in most of the known world hating us. These are not times for committee's and flashy speaches. These are times for change, PEACE, and action. Hillary Clinton is an excellent candidate and Bill Clinton did wonders for our country and he should never be forgotten or spoken of negatively but, the time is now and CHANGE is needed! GO Obama!
It is refreshing to hear young people thinking out of the "box". I was a young person when JFK was running for president. I was caught up in the man's charisma and the whole "camelot" thing, but JFK also had years of experience, political savvy, knowledge of how to get things done within the congressional environment and most of all family who was totally committed to being proud to be an American. Thank you University of Pennsylvania for acknowledging how change is a process and not just a hope.
This alone should tell everyone that Obama is good at show and talk and that clinton is the better choice. This is the same growd that follows Brittney Spears, muisc groups, gosip and what ever the media can feed them. Only a few years ago they were minors and living at home. This type of endorsement proves Obama could be an entertainer for the young. For a group whom seek to be entertained this may be awesome. For the majority of mature adults this is not what we know to be leadership. How many of our bosses could talk the talk but not walk the walk. Clinton has walked the walk.
Bottom line: Do you believe everything you are told? If you do Obama is for you!
The news staff is 65% female. Was that a factor in the vote outcome?
Clinton and Obama are not electable !
Both Democrat candidates have damaged themselves beyond hope of winning in the fall. McCain will win against either in a landslide.
Obama has been exposed as the radical he is. He could not even say that he loved his country for heaven's sake. He is lost at the podium without a teleprompter.
Clinton has 50 percent disapproval rating. No candidate has ever been elected with numbers like that.
It's up to the super delegates now. They must join together and demand a third candidate that has a chance in November.
To call the Daily Pennsylvanian an "independent" student newspaper is misleading. It's not run by the student government or the administration, but it is THE campus paper at Penn.
In recent history we had 2 presidents with excellent experience (Bush Junior and Nixon) with disastrous results. Hillary is an opportunistic person who stayed with her husband who had affairs with many including a college intern being paid by taxpayers. She would have divorced Bill if he was an ordinary person.
She also lied so many times and so many places (including his report as a lawyer) which is not a good example for college students.
God save us from Hillary.
It it refreshing to see that college kids can see thru the hype and endorse Clinton who has actually the experience and know how. Talk is cheap but action is strong.
How ignorant college level students have become. Clinton has not had a single position where she has accomplished anything on her own merit for the people of the U.S. In her avarice to achieve the stage and exonerate her position of staying with Bill she fails to accept that her political station in life is derived from association with Bill since the beginning. She is clearly a party to good ol boy politics by association and will never have the power or charisma to mount a ground swell of support to change anything in politics. It is her own past decisions to associate with Bill to gain political station that haunts her current situation. If this support by the paper is singularly student determined, How sad to be schooled and not educated. I don't support Obama.
I'm not sure what Clinton has done in public office that Obama hasn't. I fail to see how 2 terms of partisan politics is better than 1.
It seems that living in the White House now counts the same as holding the job of President.
As I recall, Ms. Clinton's big project as 1st lady was to reform healthcare. I'm still waiting for the results.......
Except for one thing. If Mrs. Clinton is elected, will a new dynasty continue in the form of President Chelsea Clinton.?
Only VP Dick Cheney's grandson might know?
Yours Truly
dePaul Consiglio
I think the debate said it all
On serious issues, like economy, he was unable to answer why and when he would raise the payroll taxes.. was extremely vague on capital gains tax.. couldn't answer the right to arms question and even fumbled on affirmative actions ..I am surprised that people are bashing ABC moderators rather than discussing Obama's answers..Ironic that these are the same people that are criticizing the debate for not focusing on issues..
He is running on judgement of his one speech and questions in the first hour highlighted his judgement (or the lack thereof) on Wright etc..he was not able to defend any of his positions..
haaa.....good point Kate.
... it is like someone's overbearing parent wrote the endorsement.
"You better give the endorsement to Clinton or you will be on your own for paying your tuition"
(Dear McClinton-ites....this was obviously only meant as a joke...please do not drudge my comment through the mud using it as a wedge to represent every Obama supporter. The opinions that I express are solely my own)
This is the most succinct and best written endorsement of Clinton that I've seen, and it changed my mind...I'm supporting Clinton, now, instead of Obama. Trust the youth of this country to show us the way.
Wishful thinking girl!!
You mean like ducking sniper bullets and attending ladies teas? Or, maybe it was that failed healthcare initiative, followed by selling out to the insurance companies--or quite possibly it was that cheerleading on the Iraq war or the subsequent Iran NeoCon sabre-rattling or howz about the I was for NAFTA before I was against it? What is this paper from? The Wharton School?
Ah. But Clinton will take us towards socialism/communism. Last night on the debate she said no more taxes. BUT- months ago she already promised to sign a new tax bill the 1st day in office. An unimaginative tax on tobacco, which is a tax increase for 46 million Americans. And a HUGE tax increase at that. Supposedly for SCHIP ( the children ). If so, why not tax things that WON'T go away if the nannies have there way. A Russian immigrant women here was on the news and she said it right: The USA is becoming what she ran away from in the USSR/CIS or whatever they are calling themselves nowadays. The founding fathers did NOT want this HUGE government. Tolerance and common sense should rule along with the people. As it is the gov is running US! No to Hillary. I don't trust her anyway.
The gov spends $ like grass through a goose. Then they raise taxes to "fix" their screw-ups. (repeat).
Sorry. I get the feeling that Clinton is too trigger happy. What was up with the questioners? It seems like the billionaires of the country came together and decided who was going to question them.
The endorsement by the independent student newspaper at the University of
Pennsylvania was a good affimative declaration in favor of Senator Clinton.
This positive assertion should help the Democrats Superdelegates pick the
best Democratic Presidential Nominee this coming August convention. Make no
mistake Superdelegates, if your party's goal is to have a Democrat as the next
US President... Senator Hillary R. Clinton is the right nominee.
I thought folks at Penn would be smarter than that.
Charisma is a much more important trait for our commander in chief. This is a democracy, not a dictatorship. As Bush has made painfully clear for the past 8 years, there are a lot of other people in the White House advising the president. Unlike Bush, Obama has demonstrated the integrity to surround himself with experienced, scrupulous advisors.
While experience is valuable, too much experience on the Hill leads to cronyism. We need a candidate that has the charisma and integrity to bring this country together. With the Vice President functioning as the President of the Senate, I think the more experienced candidate should be in the senate hall, duking it out with other senators and breaking gridlock. The more charismatic candidate should be in the oval office, inspiring the nation.
Clinton and Obama are not electable !
Both Democrat candidates have damaged themselves beyond hope of winning in the fall. McCain will win against either in a landslide.
Obama has been exposed as the radical he is. He could not even say that he loved his country for heaven's sake. He is lost at the podium without a teleprompter.
Clinton has 50 percent disapproval rating. No candidate has ever been elected with numbers like that.
It's up to the super delegates now. They must join together and demand a third candidate that has a chance in November.
Nobody cares about Pennsylvania except Hillary and Pennsylvanians, and HIllary only for another week.
Wasn't this originally a joke?
http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/media/storage/paper882/news/2008/04/09/News/penn-Dems.Vote.To.Switch.Endorsement-3312336.shtml
Huh? Let's don't prefer leadership and vision? Let's don't prefer inspiration and vision? Let's don't prefer exceptional excellence over pragmatic junkyard dog ethics?
Okay. Well, we will see.
ummm the college paper was joking.....they sent out another issue aftwards saying they were
I am confident that the students, particularly the Editorial Board for the Daily Pennsylvanian, are much smarter than you all. Really, they are. So, to fault these young, intelligent students for taking a firm position and not buying into the load of nonsense that the media and Senator Obama feeds on a minute-to-minute basis is downright unjust. Senator Obama is a farce. Senator Clinton has lied on occasion and nothing justifies that. Senator Obama has lied, but more importantly is a lie. His message of hope, etc. is losing appeal as he continually employs dirty tactics and contradicts himself on seemingly every occasion. I don't want him to drop out of the race, I am having a good time watching him flounder throughout this primary process. He may win the nomination, but I am pretty sure he won't. One thing is for sure, his political career is over.
Who the hell listens to college students. This is not news.
I'm not ready for four years of her lies. There is something fundamentally wrong with a person who lies so much about things that mean so little. No matter what its cause, I do not think that a person who is so far removed from the truth should be our President. It's one thing for a politician to lie about what they are going to do when elected, this one lies about her past. Pathetic lies that are easy to disprove.
Or she is delusional - another trait I do not want in a President.
HILLARY, WE LOVE YOU!!!!!! THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AND THE UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA KNOW THEIR STUFF!!!
"H O W W E C A N" YEAH BABY!!!!!
Did noone at this newspaper care to research and find out that the UPENN endorsement was a joke!
http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/media/storage/paper882/news/2008/04/09/News/penn-Dems.Vote.To.Switch.Endorsement-3312336.shtml
You people will believe anything you vaugely hear and put it into print
CHECK YOUR FACTS!
People can muster a reason to "support" any legitimate candidate. If you're not a bit liberal in college, you probably don't have a heart. If you haven't become more conservative by age 32, you probably don't have a brain. In our current election, it is hugely heartwarming to see many younger people involved and interested regardless of "support". BE CAREFUL!! Mizra with comment 28 has it pretty accurate. If you want a proven selfish, narcissist, liar, cheat and military hater in office-----choose Hillaryous!!
Yes, who wrote this college endorsement? Sounds like Mark Penn
WHY DO ALL CLINTON SUPPORTERS HAVE THEIR CAPS LOCK ON?!?
Seriously though, who cares? I hardly see how first lady experience counts for anything. Experienced at lying and mis-speaking? Yes, shes clearly more experienced there.... Before Abraham Lincoln took the oath of office in 1860 to become our 16th president he had previously served 8 years as an Illinois state legislator and 4 years in the U.S. Congress, which happens to be precisely Senator Barack Obama’s experience. Bill Clinton became president at age 46 after having served 12 years as the governor of Arkansas, but without having had any prior experience whatsoever in Washington or as a state legislator.
How do Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton actually compare in terms of their individual experience?
Barack Obama graduated from Harvard Law School Magna Cxx Laude in 1991 and served as the President of the Harvard Law Review. Given those credentials he could have joined any number of prestigious law firms but instead felt compelled to give back to his local community, so he returned to his home in Chicago to direct a voter registration drive and work as an attorney representing community organizers working on voting rights and civil rights cases. In 1993 he became a lecturer of Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School and in 1996 was elected to the Illinois State Senate where he served 8 years prior to his landslide election to the US Senate in November 2004. With his combined service as an Illinois State Senator and US Senator, Barack Obama is currently serving his 12th year as an elected legislator accountable to voters.
Hillary Clinton graduated from Yale law school in 1973 and subsequently worked as a lawyer at the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock, Arkansas and has been a very active spouse, first as the wife of the governor of Arkansas and then as the First lady of the United States. Despite her claim of “35 years of experience”, she actually first became an elected official as a Senator from her adopted state of New York in 2000, and she is currently serving her 8th year as an elected legislator accountable to voters.
Barack Obama’s opponents are trying to convince voters that Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. anger and bitterness and sometimes over the top 1960’s type radical incendiary rhetoric that Barack Obama has repeatedly denounced and rejected actually somehow represents the feelings of Barack Obama himself rather than those of Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. Furthermore Barack Obama’s opponents are trying to convince voters that he is somehow unfit to become commander in chief of our military forces.
But these attempts at trying to denigrate Senator Barack Obama are not working because more people have been reading the 2 books which he has written which reveal his character and clearly and unmistakably show his love and respect for America. Furthermore on March 12, 2008 10 distinguished retired Generals and Admirals of the United States Army, Air Force and Navy unconditionally endorsed Barack Obama to become the President of the United States of America and the Commander in Chief of all United States Military Forces.
When Barack Obama decided to run for president, unlike Hillary Clinton and John McCain, he made the significant decision that he would not accept campaign contributions from lobbyists, special interests, and political action committees for his presidential campaign. It was Barack Obama’s judgment that it would be preferable if the next President of the United States was elected without being beholden to money peddlers in Washington.
Suppose Barack Obama becomes the Democratic nominee for president at the Democratic National Convention in August, and suppose in the November general election the majority of Americans decide to vote for Barack Obama, the presidential candidate who among many other things has refused to accept campaign contributions from special interests, political action committees, and lobbyists but has financed his campaign solely from the contributions of people to whom he is accountable.
Furthermore, suppose this idea of raising money for political campaigns directly from the voters to whom the candidate is accountable sits so well with the American people that they come to expect that future presidential candidates as well as candidates for other offices such for the US Senate and House of Representatives will do as Barack Obama has done. What if candidates who continue to accept campaign contributions from special interests, political action committees, and lobbyists find it increasingly difficult to get elected? Would that help or hurt democracy in America?
That’s the kind of change that Barack Obama represents which concerns so many in Washington who don’t seem very eager for the American people to reclaim their democracy from the influence of special interests, political action committees, and lobbyists, the Washington money peddlers who currently arrange to provide huge amounts of financial support to political candidates whom they believe have a good chance of winning, and whom they can then “work with” later on.
Don’t let anyone do your thinking for you. We are at a historic moment in America. Barack Obama is a very special candidate for president who can bring about significant changes in Washington and help ordinary Americans begin reclaiming their democracy.
Both the Governor of New Mexico, Bill Richardson, and Pennsylvania Senator Bob Casey Jr. know this and have recently endorsed Senator Barack Obama, recognizing Obama’s integrity, intelligence, and the strong leadership he can provide as president.
It is time for voters in Pennsylvania and in all of the other states soon to vote in presidential primary elections to stand up and be counted. It’s time for ordinary Americans to begin the process of reclaiming American democracy by voting for Barack Obama.
I've worked my way up the learning curve in several very challenging positions, and I know that it is hard to beat experience when you need to solve tough problems. I think Clinton's experience puts her high on the Presidential learning curve which is were our next President will have to be to get us through our current problems. Come to think of it, if our next President just undoes the errors of the past seven years, he or she will likely go down in history as one of this nation's greatest.
I think both these candidates need a dose of the Wharton school. Constant attacks on the oil companies and the pharmaceutical companies - and any other economic engine of the U.S. - and constant promises of the Nanny Government that will do everything for everyone all the time. And I thought we went to college to learn stuff. They both need to go back to Econ 101. And then listen to that lady who left the USSR.
More evidence of the superficiality and stupidity of the public.The three leading presidential candidates are not even good enough to be considered mediocre.Look forward to our troops occupying the middle East for the next several years or until we are bankrupt.
Facts:
During the Clinton administration employment in Pennsylvania increased by more than 500,000 jobs between 1993 and 2000.
During that same time, unemployment dropped from 7.3 to 4.1.
Obama wasn't able to clearly and concisely answer the question on whether he would raise taxes to middle/upper income Americans.
Hillary Clinton gave a concise and rational explanation regarding fiscal responsibility being the precurser to making a firm statement on the issue. She didn't waiver in her commitment to reverse this debacle that the Bush administration has created. She will not continue to offer incentives and tax breaks to the rich. She will continue to work toward job restructuring, tax reform, educational opportunities through incentives, and above all affordable and available health coverage for all Americans.
Senator Clinton has a plan. It is her plan. She knows what her plan is and is able to explain it herself, without requiring time and assistance from her advisors to do so. She doesn't give a non-answer. Her experience does say it all. She knows what it takes to get the job done, she's been successful at getting the job done for many years.
Senator Obama lacks the experience. Don't mistake enthusiam for ability. His time will come as he gains more experience in what it takes to actually get the job done.
Hillary Clinton has experience, ability, determination and above all RESILIENCE. She has what it takes to get the job done and turn our nation around both economically and socially.
Facts:
During the Clinton administration employment in Pennsylvania increased by more than 500,000 jobs between 1993 and 2000.
During that same time, unemployment dropped from 7.3 to 4.1.
Obama wasn't able to clearly and concisely answer the question on whether he would raise taxes to middle/upper income Americans.
Hillary Clinton gave a concise and rational explanation regarding fiscal responsibility being the precurser to making a firm statement on the issue. She didn't waiver in her commitment to reverse this debacle that the Bush administration has created. She will not continue to offer incentives and tax breaks to the rich. She will continue to work toward job restructuring, tax reform, educational opportunities through incentives, and above all affordable and available health coverage for all Americans.
Senator Clinton has a plan. It is her plan. She knows what her plan is and is able to explain it herself, without requiring time and assistance from her advisors to do so. She doesn't give a non-answer. Her experience does say it all. She knows what it takes to get the job done, she's been successful at getting the job done for many years.
Senator Obama lacks the experience. Don't mistake enthusiam for ability. His time will come as he gains more experience in what it takes to actually get the job done.
Hillary Clinton has experience, ability, determination and above all RESILIENCE. She has what it takes to get the job done and turn our nation around both economically and socially.
Q: If Hillary's so electable, why is she losing?
A: Because she isn't electable.
Hello??? Clearly writers / bloggers for newspaper websites just latch on to any headline without taking the time to check the actual facts. This 'endorsement' was a satirical joke...no, really...not a joke, as in 'I can't believe how silly they are to endorse Clinton', but a joke...as in, they ARE NOT endorsing her. I thought it was rather amusing...
You nailed it! Barack is a nice guy but Hillary is what our country needs right now. What I appreciate the most is the "how we can" because that cuts to the chase. She can and she will.
To discount Hillary Clinton's service as First Lady (both of Arkansas and of the US) is simply put....ignorant.
Her record in Arkansas, as First Lady, is clear. She was instrumental in reforming education laws and requiring continued education and testing for teachers. The result was an increase in national test scores from students in the Arkansas public school system.
As First Lady of the US she was relentless in her fight for affordable and available health care. A fight lost primarily due to bi-partisan politics.
I do not discount Senator Obama's decision to work on the community level after completing his education at Harvard. Let's not forget that Senator Clinton, after graduating from Yale, worked as a staff attorney for the Children's Defense Fund, working to protect abused children. Additionally, she too was an organizer....Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families.
Senator Clinton has been a visible and vocal advocate for children for more than 30 years. She has been an advocate for the underprivileged, the uneducated, the elderly, the sick...the list goes on.
Again, I don't refute Senator Obama's enthusiasm or will. I speak to their records. Comparing the two side-by-side. Senator Clinton and Senator Obama both became activists for change as young, energized lawyers. Both Senators' Clinton and Obama overcame obstacles in their activism. She as an outspoken woman in a male dominated arena. He as a black man in our still prejudiced society. The facts are that Senator Clinton's accomplishments (in the same period of chronological years as Senator Obama's) have been more.
I cannot discount the "experience factor". I trust that Senator Obama will continue to work as an advocate for reform that he so eloquently speaks about. I will trust my vote to the adage: actions speak louder than words. Senator Clinton has actively worked for reform and equality for all. She has my support and will continue to have my support in her bid for president.
What our country needs right now is megalomania, entitlement, dissembling, fakery, grim ambition, joyless pandering, blind ambition, power without conscience?
How can we need that when we are just getting rid of it?
To discount Hillary Clinton's service as First Lady (both of Arkansas and of the US) is simply put....ignorant.
Her record in Arkansas, as First Lady, is clear. She was instrumental in reforming education laws and requiring continued education and testing for teachers. The result was an increase in national test scores from students in the Arkansas public school system.
As First Lady of the US she was relentless in her fight for affordable and available health care. A fight lost primarily due to bi-partisan politics.
I do not discount Senator Obama's decision to work on the community level after completing his education at Harvard. Let's not forget that Senator Clinton, after graduating from Yale, worked as a staff attorney for the Children's Defense Fund, working to protect abused children. Additionally, she too was an organizer....Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families.
Senator Clinton has been a visible and vocal advocate for children for more than 30 years. She has been an advocate for the underprivileged, the uneducated, the elderly, the sick...the list goes on.
Again, I don't refute Senator Obama's enthusiasm or will. I speak to their records. Comparing the two side-by-side. Senator Clinton and Senator Obama both became activists for change as young, energized lawyers. Both Senators' Clinton and Obama overcame obstacles in their activism. She as an outspoken woman in a male dominated arena. He as a black man in our still prejudiced society. The facts are that Senator Clinton's accomplishments (in the same period of chronological years as Senator Obama's) have been more.
I cannot discount the "experience factor". I trust that Senator Obama will continue to work as an advocate for reform that he so eloquently speaks about. I will trust my vote to the adage: actions speak louder than words. Senator Clinton has actively worked for reform and equality for all. She has my support and will continue to have my support in her bid for president.
Clinton has shown she is truly ready to lead our country on day one--- lead it right back to the 1950's and McCarthyism, and the good old politics of innuendo and personal smears. " I'm a fighter", just watch me divide and conquer. Too bad her vision can see only as far as a Pennsylvania primary and not what she's doing to her party, much less for any future for civility in politics. Between her husband's regressive mindset and her own knocking others down to build her self up, this wannabe dynasty should have quit while it was ahead.
For god's sake, Ed Rendell and Michael Nutter both went to Penn and clearly they wasted no time sending over the Clinton campaign's talking points for the editors to print. Shameless!
To discount Hillary Clinton's service as First Lady (both of Arkansas and of the US) is simply put....ignorant.
Her record in Arkansas, as First Lady, is clear. She was instrumental in reforming education laws and requiring continued education and testing for teachers. The result was an increase in national test scores from students in the Arkansas public school system.
As First Lady of the US she was relentless in her fight for affordable and available health care. A fight lost primarily due to bi-partisan politics.
I do not discount Senator Obama's decision to work on the community level after completing his education at Harvard. Let's not forget that Senator Clinton, after graduating from Yale, worked as a staff attorney for the Children's Defense Fund, working to protect abused children. Additionally, she too was an organizer....Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families.
Senator Clinton has been a visible and vocal advocate for children for more than 30 years. She has been an advocate for the underprivileged, the uneducated, the elderly, the sick...the list goes on.
Again, I don't refute Senator Obama's enthusiasm or will. I speak to their records. Comparing the two side-by-side. Senator Clinton and Senator Obama both became activists for change as young, energized lawyers. Both Senators' Clinton and Obama overcame obstacles in their activism. She as an outspoken woman in a male dominated arena. He as a black man in our still prejudiced society. The facts are that Senator Clinton's accomplishments (in the same period of chronological years as Senator Obama's) have been more.
I cannot discount the "experience factor". I trust that Senator Obama will continue to work as an advocate for reform that he so eloquently speaks about. I will trust my vote to the adage: actions speak louder than words. Senator Clinton has actively worked for reform and equality for all. She has my support and will continue to have my support in her bid for president.
"How we can.." is better than "Yes, we can.."
I like that.
That's exactly the difference between him and her. You can speak all the good words, but it will be useless if you don't know how to implement it the best possible way.
You know why She's losing? Because Obama's nice words have convinced us that dreaming is better than achieving something.
Wake up!
Could it be that a "weak man" stratgey is being played out here?
I firmly believe that McCain can beat Obama but not Clinton. I would suspect the republicans, when faced with the question: which candidate will McCain have a better chance against? would focus their energies into making sure Obama wins the nomination. As much as I would like to see Obama in the White House, it unfortunately will not happen this time around, for McCain will beat him. That leaves me with a choice between McCain and Clinton. If Clinton wins the nomination, she will beat McCain, Obama will be indomitable as the nominee for President in 2012 or 2016 and we can force a possible 16-year democratic party White House. We cannot do that if we nominate Obama now, no matter how much we love him and his ideals.
What I saw last night was Barack Obama wilting under pressure, getting defensive, and failing to stay on message.
Yes, it was unfair, but the world is not fair. I am not defending the moderators or the questions in noting that not only Republicans, but the dictators of the world will be much more aggressive, hostile, and less accepting of weak equivocation.
The leader of this country needs to be able to deal with far greater scrutiny and adversity than a simple debate.
Could it be that a "weak man" stratgey is being played out here by the republican party?
I firmly believe that McCain can beat Obama but not Clinton. I would suspect the republicans, when faced with the question: which candidate can McCain win against? would focus their energies into making sure Obama wins the nomination. As much as I would like to see Obama in the White House, it unfortunately will not happen this time around, for McCain will beat him. That leaves me with a choice between McCain and Clinton. If Clinton wins the nomination, she will beat McCain, Obama will become indomitable as the nominee for President in 2012 or 2016 and we can force a possible 16-year democratic party White House. We cannot do that if we nominate Obama now, no matter how much we love him and his ideals.
Why are Obama supporters so reminding me of Bush supporters? Why is Obama reminding me of Bush? I don't want another arrogant "imperial" presidency where I get lied ro every other week.
Thank you so much for converting my thoughts into a very thoughtful and well-written endorsement! This will appeal to people who can reason well. After all, college students are not cult members. They are the best independent minds!
I love how all Obama supporters are commenting on how this was a joke. Ladies and gentleman of the Obama cult, check your facts. I go to UPenn. There was a joke issue published on April 8th. Today, April 17th the Daily Pennsylvanian endorsed Hillary Clinton. You people are either lazy or attempting to deceive the readers here.
I am actually quite puzzled as to how you can not research this claim that it is a joke before posting it. The depth of your research truly surprises me. Way to go Obamaniacs. You are lazy and deceptive. Here is the April 17th endorsement:
http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/media/storage/paper882/news/2008/04/17/Opinion/Editorial.Our.Primary.Picks.Clinton.And.Mccain-3331885.shtml
I am disgusted. You all do not deserve to vote.
The reason Obama has "inspired" the youth vote more than Clinton is that the young today live in the American Idol world. They want a pop star. The young women think that the fight for equal rights between genders is over--and at the same time, they swoon over Obama because he's so "hot" (this is a real quote) and they're "in love" with this "poster boy for the melting pot that is America."
Young voters also don't remember the peace and prosperity of the Clinton years, and if they did, they probably make shallow assessments such as, "Clinton was lucky. They just happened to be good years."
It's been repellent to listen to adults, like Ted and Caroline Kennedy, and many superdelegates, say that they switched to Obama because their kids "were so enthusiastic about him." So now we've come to this: letting immature, ignorant children decide matters of national interest.
If Hillary is so electable why is she so desperate... and ready to do anything to win... and what happened to the Roddam in "Hillary Roddam Clinton"?
Go to Google and type: Tim Russert nails Hilliary Clinton over Bosnia. She wrote about this trip in her book and than deliberately lies about it FOUR times. It is an insult to the men and women who risk their lives every day for us here and abroad. Hilliary is willing to risk her life for America by lying about it. Do you think the Secret Service would put the President's family in danger? This is serious - a total lack of integrity - why would anyone except a deliberate lie? No excuse for this.
One other point; the Clinton's refused to end the marriage penalty tax; It was not changed until 2003. That tax cost families thousands of dollars each year. I know because my wife and I, even after increasing our payroll withholdings, had to mail checks to the IRS every year until 2003. We were raising six children.
I find it funny when people make comments like:
"Penn is basically a colony of the children of rich Long Islanders, who have always gone ga-ga for the Clintons"
When Obama went to Columbia and Harvard. Both are Ivy League Schools.
Give me a break. At least Clinton went to Wellesley before jumping to Yale.
Everyone seems thinks she's involved in some mass conspiracy by those who support her. Do us all a favor: put the drugs down and get a job. Hahahaha.
what is with Penn. and Hillary...????? this is disgusting! how can all you "educated" people believe in that lying bull@#$%. so rhetoric and money can sway you people!? i have spent half the day just shocked & blogging about all of Pennsylvania's ignorance..i at least know now that we now have 3 states that should be ashamed of themselves, Texas, Florida,and now PENNSYLVANIA!
Kate said:
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according to politico this now makes the university paper count
850 for Obama, 3 for Clinton, 1 for Kucinich
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Kate, if you're going to post information, PLEASE get it right, or you make yourself look like a propagandist. Ok? There's been enough Obama supports spreading badly researched facts. It doesn't help anyone, and the truth is still impressive.
http://www.uwire.com/election-08-endorsements/
Dems Endorsement Scorecard:
Barack Obama | 45 (90%)
Hillary Clinton | 4 (8%)
Dennis Kucinich | 1 (2%)
GOP Endorsement Scorecard:
John McCain | 43 (86%)
Ron Paul | 3 (6%)
Mitt Romney | 2 (4%)
Mike Huckabee | 1 (2%)
These results are out of 50 papers out of University Wire's tracking of apparently 850 members, most of whom are not endorsing.
It amazes me that so many people are pro Hillary. She didn't just vote for war, she promoted it, even voting against amendments to require U.N. approval. She promotes free trade which has devastated the U.S and world economy. She assured her real base that there would be no real opposition to John Roberts by announcing she supported him at a critical time, then voted no.
She lies, and lies, and smears, and slings mud, and is carting along tons of negative baggage that the right is primed and ready to pounce on.
Wake up, this woman is the most depressing U.S. political development since George Bush.
www.boston.com eh? Nice fact checking on this one... As others have mentioned, this was a J-O-K-E. And yes, it was actually posted in the Joke section of the paper.
Obama supporters, let this one go...
Clinton supporters, don't give Obama supporters more ammunition to accuse you of ignorance by typing your ALL CAPS responses. Makes me think of my grandma who types in all caps so she read what she's typing.
However, I do agree with the statement that Obama would be more suited to be president in another 4 or 8 years. But I can't get past the fact that Hillary can tell a prepared lie on 4 different occasions... Seems pathological to me.
the last two terms of silence from obama supporters...
george bush and crew got a free pass from the same people that
rip on hillary now
silence equaled death...debt...
anger was in short supply when the real villains did everything they
felt like...why are you blaming a solution? where was the anger when
it was needed?
whats really going on is sexism...pure and simple...from people
identifying themselves as liberals?!
... yes liberals who are
afraid of a woman...with power...
Last night's debate was a sham... Bill Clinton ruined Al Gore's chances in 2000... and look who we got in the White House... now Hillary Clinton is dragging the party down in 2008. For all the good Bill Clinton did, I must say he helped usher in George Bush who ran on "Bringing integrity back to the White House" 4,000 plus US deaths later from a selective 'war' I pray for our men and women and the people of Iraq... look at what we have done... I was a vol. at Walter Reed and three years ago saw a soldier with a teddy bear in his arms staring out into a place I can only image... blood, limbs, minds, hearing loss, depression... I thank the men and women for their service when I see them and I mean it... I do not thank the CEO who dragged them into this occupation. Sometimes I weep for those I see without arm or legs... my God what have we done ? What price ? Remember Al Gore could not even run with Bill Clinton, it was a if he was not part of the administration that damaged itself... now Hillary Clinton is dragging us down. Frankly it is pathetic... that was not the Obama I have seen speak and inspire, no it was a person trying to take the high road as his face was getting rubbed in the dirt. I wondered how he even stayed at the podium.. what a farce... what shallow questions..l it was like one of the AM 'news' shows. Keep dragging him down and we will end up with with more names on the "wall" and lost limbs, broken families, and we make no sacrifice ... its a sham. Mr Obama I hope and pray you get the nomination... but there must be times when you wonder "How did it come to this ?"
I wish someone would come forward with stature and get Sen Clinton off the bus and behind Sen Obama: more states, more votes, more delegates... you are harming the party... you are dragging it down and now the bitterness is coming from fellow democrats towards other democrats... what price glory ?
Keep your records right. She will lose. However, for the University of PA turks, they must be very unmathematical. At this point it doesn't matter who endorses Hillary. She will need a Huckabee miracle to win the nomination.
She may make the case for the undecided delegates, but the reason they are not decided is because they'll not vote for her. As for the endorsement, it's an act of frustration by some pro-Clinton conservative paper.
If you are aboard the wrong train, it makes no sense running in the opposite direction. Have a Clintonian day, won't you?
Of course, to the Obamacon it is a joke.
And how he tried humour to spin his presidential pathetic performance in that last debate.
No soaring rhetoric just plain Obamacon bumbling!!
Hillary will run the White House the same way she has ben running her campaign,
Dirty!
All personalities aside you have to look at two things - The Facts and the Candidates' Track Record of Actual Performance:
The Clinton Administration of the 90's gave you:
*A STRONG AMERICAN DOLLAR! When Clinton left office, the dollar had virtually TWICE the purchasing power it does today against all major currencies! For those who are not familiar with the subject of currency it is fairly straight forward: All currencies trade in pairs. When our dollar is strong against the Yen, we are able to purchase more things from Japan for less. Today our dollar is severely devalued against the Yen as well as all major currencies. This situation has put American consumers in a double bind because with rising oil prices Asia is facing inflation and is forced to charge more for the items they sell to our Country. This problem is further compounded by the fact that our dollar is already weak and not capable of purchasing much as it is.
*STRONG ECONOMY! A strong dollar, low oil and gas prices, low unemployment, low taxes, a surplus enabled the American consumer to purchase more with less.
*LOW TAXES! And for good reason - we had a surplus and not a deficit.
*AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND REAL ESTATE! The abuses of lowered interest rates in spite of rising real estate and home values had not taken place. This problem was exacerbated due the packaging and sale of sub prime and collateralized debt by major investment banks.
*AN UNRIVALED STRONG STOCK MARKET! The Stock Market, like oil, is valued and pegged to the US Dollar. When the Dow was 10,000 in 2000, approximately 80 cents fetched 1 Euro. Today $1.60 fetches 1 Euro. So if the dollar has halved its value - what is the Dow truly worth today at 12,000?
*LOW OIL AND GAS PRICES! Remember when oil was averaging $20 a barrel and gas was under $1 dollar? You had it during the Clinton Administration.
*LOW COMMODITY PRICES! With oil prices the production of commodities were cheaper to produce.
*LOW INFLATION! A time when you had low oil and commodity prices as well as asset values that were properly contained by interest rates.
*LOW UNEMPLOYMENT! With the consumer being able to purchase more for less, employment opportunities thrived with the growth of industry.
*A SURPLUS IN THE BUDGET! With the same acumen that made him a Rhodes Scholar and a centi-millionaire, Clinton’s policies helped moved us from the red into the black. Plain and simple.
*STRONGER FOREIGN RELATIONS! High tensions in the Middle East, not supply, have undoubtedly given speculators much reason to artificially push up oil prices. The Clinton’s were largely well liked and respected the world over. Should Clinton become President and the war come to an end we should see a dramatic drop in oil, gas and consequently commodity prices.
Republican, Democrat, or Independent; who would want to “Change” any of this?
Has everyone forgotten how good it was? The Clinton Administration brought you not only experience, but a proven track record! Unfortunately, Clinton’s strategists have not cut through the rhetoric. It is clear - while other candidates talk about fixing the system – the Clinton Administration actually did it. And they did it at a time when they inherited both a recession and a deficit. Who could ask for more? Why would anyone want to roll the dice on any other candidates’ plans of “idealism”?
We cannot afford to make a mistake during times like these through ignorance!
You ask the average person why they are voting who they are voting for and you get a responses like, “I always vote Republican because Democrats raise taxes!” “I don’t think a woman should be President.” “Obama’s a good speaker and he wants change!” But are those valid reasons for people to elect who we put into office as President? Unfortunately voters have been so confused by rhetoric that they really do not have a clear reason to take to the polls with them.
Voters need to be forced to think by being asked the proper questions!
Voters need to be asked the proper questions: “Do you want a strong dollar? YES? - Well the Clinton Administration gave it to you. Do you want low gas oil prices? YES? Well the Clinton Administration gave it to you.” - Address the public with the key questions that will make them think about how their vote will affect the quality of their lives and they will have a reason to say “Clinton” the day they vote. Unfortunately, most of the young people who are now eligible to vote and did not experience the prosperity of the Clinton Administration are not aware of these critical points. Whether they like Clinton or not - these are precisely the points that need to be hammered over and over again so that they can be ingrained in the publics’ minds when they are asked about Clinton’s stance.
Keep it simple, stupid.
That is what Obama has done with his message of “Change”- “simple-stupid” marketing and it is working for him - despite the fact that his political experience is limited to barely two years of junior senator experience. Albeit an accomplished and charismatic speaker, the 46 year old Obama does not possess the requisite track record that America needs. The Clintons’ experience spans two of the most successful presidential terms in American history, with Hillary’s experience dating back to the Nixon Administration.
A Powerful Combination of Intellect, Leadership and Experience!
There is much speculation in the news that Hillary will select her husband as her running mate for Vice President. She should. Although, Bill will invariably be by her side as he has throughout this campaign and like she was by his side during his two terms in office, Hillary should still officially select her husband as her running mate. America could not ask for a better combination. The Clintons helped move our Country from debt to profitability and after they left office they also made over $100 million dollars for themselves. Very smart people.
Smart People - Smart Leadership. Isn’t that what our Country needs?
Actually this endorsement is not a joke.
1. Penn Dems endorsed Obama
2 In an April Fools JOKE issue, the Daily Pennsylvanian announced that Penn Dems changed their endorsement to Hillary. Obviously, not true, but there was a disclaimer.
3. yesterday, the Daily Pennsylvanian (not Penn Dems) endorsed Hillary and McCain.
The majority of the staff here at the DP COMPLETELY disagree with the decision of the editors to choose Clintron. Just wanted to let you know.
It's funny how this particular college newspaper can endorse Hillary Clinton, and forget how many stories she already told,and a prime example is the sniper fire in Bosnia. She is still a young senator and not an experience one. Her vote was just like Senator MCcain, a vote for war, and Obama disapprove from the start- not just talk but leadership. The Bush administration was full of experience people, but our nation is hurting on all fronts. We need leadership and clear thinking, and Obama and his team will bring that to the table.
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