Obama leads in N.C.; voters distrust Clinton
Hillary Clinton is within striking distance in North Carolina, but a worrisome number of voters don't trust her.
That's the decidedly mixed message from a new poll conducted for The News & Observer in Raleigh, The Charlotte Observer, and TV stations in the two cities.
Barack Obama, who is favored in the May 6 primary, leads Clinton 32 percent to 26 percent, but an unusually high 39 percent remain undecided, according to the survey.
It found that trustworthiness is the most important quality sought by voters, with nearly 90 percent saying it would play an important role in deciding whom they support. On that measure, presumptive Republican nominee John McCain fared best, with 54 percent giving him high marks. Obama won high marks from 48 percent of voters, but only 25 percent of voters said that of Clinton.
The poll, which has a margin of error of plus of minus 4.9 percentage points, was conducted March 29 to April 1, during heavy coverage of Clinton acknowledging that she "misspoke" when she described landing in Bosnia under sniper fire during a 1996 humanitarian visit while first lady.
I am waiting for Hilary in the North Dakota campaign to announce that she remembers going on buffalo hunts with the Sioux Indians.
Hillary stands for everyhting that is bad in a leader, liar, con job, power grab, elitist, establishiment etc. Whatever your views on her policy, ONCE A LIAR ALWAYS A LIAR. A Vote for Barack is not about him, it is about rejecting poor moral and ethical standards that Hillary has shown to posses.
America can vote any way they choose, BUT TO VOTE A LIAR IN IS TRAGIC. Dont tell me that every politician lies. That may be the case, but when you get caught, you cant let that slide.
Down with Hillary and her lies.
"Hillary Clinton is within striking distance in North Carolina, but a worrisome number of voters don't trust her."
Why would anyone?
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2008/04/is-hillary-billary-clinton-dishonest.html#link
Yeah, I California, she was a back-up singer for The Beach Boys too!
People don't trust her because she's a liar, has always been a liar and will continue to be a liar. I'm shocked that with all of the things we know about the Clintons, people vote for her at all... they must not be well informed and have long term memory problems.
Go ahead all of you Clinton Apologists, let me have it!
I'm from N.C., and based on my interactions with people here, I'd say those numbers are fairly accurate. Obama has my vote, not only because I like his stances a little better than Hillary's, but also because he seems much more genuine.
On a side note: "...margin of error of plus OF minus..." Proof-read, people!
Don't trust Hillary Clinton? What, but they'll trust a black man with a middle eastern name? Barack Hussein Obama?
I'd trust Hillary before I'd trust a person of islamic descent that's for sure! Also, remember all the financial success Americans had durning the 90's? That is because of Bill & Hillary Clinton, please don't forget or try to rationalize that success on something else because it was all due to the Clinton Administration and their policies!
Trust is huge. Obama is a bit of an unknown, so that would be a huge leap of faith, but on the other hand, we would be trusting McCain not to up and die on us and we are trusting Hillary not to... umm... flat out lie to us.
I can understand not trusting Hillary, but How can anyone trust Obama?
He can't make a hard decision to save his own life, nor can he man up when
he does say or do something that later comes up not to be of popular
opinion. Come on, no one is perfect, some decisions do later become
obvious as a mistake, step up and admit it once, you would be suprised
how much better it makes one look.
I guess I am not sure I trust either when Obama listen for over 20 years to his Pastor and contributed the over thousands of dollars to his pastors Black Liberation Theology with "God D---American". Obama says he didn't hear it?? I guess I thought Obama was more intelligent that or for 20 years was sleeping in church?
I trust Obama most between Hillary, McCain, and Obama.
They trust McCain more than Hillary? That's a bit scary. Don't vote for McCain we will end up in Iran. You can quote him for not knowing anything about the economy.
Let's talk trustworthy: Hillary dodges sniper fire; Bill did not have sex with that woman; Barack's parents met in the Selma march and he was a college professor - and was not educated as a Muslim. Shall we continue this discussion?
She probably did!
R Hiatt April
Ha, she really believes she brought the ten commandments down from the mountain.
AC
Clinton represents everything Democrat! For the little people, but stinking rich!???
Cannot stand anyone questioning her opinion on anything! Supports the superdelegate system that takes the party nominee choice away from the voters and gives it to the party elite.
The whole party is built on hypocricy!!!
Vote McCain! He is really the only acceptable choice in this circus of clowns!!!
Vive Obama
This is a ridiculous and biased story. 39% undecided and you print a headline that is so negataive towards Clinton?
Did you mention that Obama was in the pews during some controversial sermons despite saying he never heard those words?
Did you mention that the poll was done in cities with universities, an Obama demographic?
Nice try.
I certainly understand why Sen. Clinton might not poll well on trustworthiness, but I don't understand why Obama would poll better.
Forget Rezko. Forget that his parents DIDN'T meet at the Selma March; that his father DIDN'T come from Kenya with financial assistance from the Kennedy’s; that he was NOT a professor of law, .......his exaggerations and outright lies certainly equal Clinton's.
As well, his wife is becoming just as big a liability as Clinton's husband.
His relationship with Jeremiah Wright alone should be enough to take him down. He denied the remarks for a week until it became a crisis and then he came out, gave a speech and tried to change the subject by interjecting his long-suffering white grandmother as the real villian.
This poll of Obama 32% to Clinton 26% is a drop in the polls for Obama and that is great news. It would really be amazing if Hillary takes NC where Obama has been the dead on favorite for months with double digit leads as high as 26%. This poll shows Obama is droppoing and fast. It would really be a change if the blacks do not vote 90% for skin color in NC as SC and Mississippi did. Vote Hillary 08 or get McCain.
I wonder if the 39% undecided are waiting for John Edwards to endorse a candidate . . .
Ok, this is in today's Baltimore Sun - Clinton's campaign manager stumping for OBAMA:
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/04/clinton_man_has_obama_moment.html
I think the Clinton camp is starting to see the future, the math and probability as bleak for Clinton.
The Bosnia and the recently Clinton campaign withdrawn medical harship story show that the Hilary Clinton will say anything to get elected and consequently is not trusworthy. No surprise here...
Hilary's statement on the sniper fire, makes me certain that this is not the person I want as president of the United States. Her husband disgraced the office and the thought of the two of them representing the country for a possible eight years makes me ill. Moral decay is eating this country alive and it is leaving our young people, seniors and baby boomers with little to no one to admire and have hope for change. The United States is a fish bowl and the world is looking at the scum on the sides and what has settle to the bottom, there must be a change in moral conduct both in our political system and in the education of our children.
It's McCain who went on the buffalo hunts with the Sioux Indians. Hillary's not that old
Hillary reform the Welfare and promise the needy and poor working people they will be trained and given a job but instead NAFTA agreement was signed by Clinton to send the jobs overseas. I don't think Hillary can preach to improve poorvety. Now the government found out the the economy needs stimulation package. Welfare was a form of stimulation package from the needy and very low income group to keep the economy rolling. When the rich gets welfare we call it tax-cut, when the low income and needy get help is welfare. Clinton surplus was the welfare from the needy and low income group which was reformed and passed to the top 1% income group. If we need a working economy there should be a constant stimulation for the needy and low income group which for sure they will go out and spend it. If nobody buys the economy comes to a stand still. We might not like it but hey it works.
Hilliary Clinton is off to a great start this week. ONLY 25 percent out of 100 percent find her trustworthy! Also, earlier today, there were photos of her man, McAliff (sp), in Washington State, posing with different Obama supporters and HOLDING AN OBAMA sign! He seemed to be very happy doing this, as he smiled quite broadly!! Maybe he is thinking of switching to the Obama Team??? :):)
I am waiting for Obama to claim that his mother and father met at an anti-war rally against GWB and Iraq and then conceived him in time for him to say his first words 'I am against this war".
There's no way I will vote for a person who tells a deliberate lie over and over again. If she'd told the story once and immediately corrected it, that would have been different. But Hillary told the same lie for months. She got caught.
For the 39% in NC who are undecided, please know that this is NOT Hillary's first lie and it will not be her last.
Have you ever found anyone who trusts Obama for his association with his dear Uncle Wright? His freaking recall stories change by the week. Guess he LIED to us. ..MCCain...I can see him now parading down Main Street in the Green Zone
in Baghdad...a real show of how well we are doing there....until the observant press corps (...some of them) told us a day or so later that it was "phoney..d up" for us.Guess he LIED to us. Hillary and Bosnia? Guess she LIED to us.
Jeez, we aren't very observant, are we?
Guess George Bush has never LIED to us, has he?
Give it a break, folks...find a reason to vote.
I thought presidents were voted in by the Supreme Court?
And this is a surprise? A true leader is a person of integrity!
Hil-LIE-ry
Hil-LIAR-y
No matter how you spell it, it comes out the same.
Sorry, gotta run. I'm under sniper fire here!
Hilary is not the smartest politician. She has a bad habit of speaking without thinking and getting caught on lies. Sniper fire and a baby’s death because of being rejected for no health care just to name a couple. I don’t think the speech writers would make a mistake like this. She most likely made it up on the fly because it sounded good. Smart politicians lie but don’t get caught. Now comes the big problem DO YOU REALLY KNOW WHEN SHE IS LIEING OR TELLING THE TRUTH. Can we trust her…her track record speaks for it’s self…NO.
THE TRUTH IS YET TO COME ABOUT HILLARY"S OP0NET . YOU BETTER KNOW WHO YO ARE VOTING FOR . YO U ARE GOING TO BE SORRY.THERE IS PLENTY COMING OUT ABOUT YOU KNOW WHO . HILLARY IS OUR BEST BET.
No matter if you like her as a person she is still the best qualified person for the job! I would rather have her than a muslim racist. He can say what he wants but if he were not a racist and did not agree with his minister he would not have sat in that church for 20 years and let him instill that in his children!! Go Hillary!!
Yet another ignorant remark from the intellectually challenged.
Actually, the poll in NC varies greatly from a number of polls recently published showing Obama safely in the lead there. I have to wonder about a poll so vastly different from the most recent polls.
I think Obama will win strongly in NC. But Hillary continues to engage in "gaff per day" politics, which weakens her daily. I think she may even lose PA.
Stephen S.
Personal attacks, half-truths, flip-flopping and evasions... yeah, we've seen this movie before. When he first appeared on the national scene, Obama seemed like a fundamentally decent fellow, but recent evidence suggests he's not who we thought he was.
I'm still waiting for her to remember how the box of law firm billing records with her finger prints on it ended up in the White House.
leave obama alone.....he's great time for change......
Chelsea backed her mom's Bosnian story but wont' talk about "personal" issues such as lying when asked. This makes her a liar. Her mother and father were involved in Vince Foster's murder, covering up documents, travelgate, white water, pork futures, lying under oath to get out of a sexual harassment lawsuit, lying to the public about Lewinski, being impeached, trying to steal national treasures from the White House when they were moving out...
The list is just too long to remember it all.
Have the uneducated (less than college degree) and the old that still support her FINALLY starting to understand that she is a liar?
I am just glad America is waking up to this nightmare of the Billary Monster back in OUR House. They are an embarrassment to America.
It is time for a true and honest leader.
It's time for President Obama.
I think she should go on that hunt with Chaney so this raise will be over...
I'm waiting for Obama to explain how he wants to unite americans above race, religion, and politics, but yet he took his wife and children to a racist preacher of hate and distrust for whites and the United States. When his wife let it slip that she was ashamed of america I thought it was a slip of the tongue, but now I see it's more likely that's what she and Obama really believe. He just screams fraud to me. I have a lot of reservations about Clinton too, but I believe that she loves America and truly wants what's best for all of its citizens. Obama doesn't seem genuine to me.
I am waiting for Hillary in Massachusetts to say she met John Quincy Adams.
Just look & listen to her. If that doesn't sway you to the Obama camp I can't imagine anything else will.
Americans are so hypocrite. They have never misspoke, never lied and never cheated before. We are the worst cheaters in the world when it comes to war, drugs, and globe warming. Obama should know, he is the worst lier in the world and he is his uncle. When we confess we are warmongers and unpatriotic then you have the right to label Hillary.
Maybe Hillary is confusing real events with stuff she saw on TV........like the Bill Murray character in the movie "Scrooged".
Both Clinton and I are old enough to remember when Republicans were capable of showing grace and dignity in the face of differing agendas and opinions. Richard Mellon Scaiffe changed all of that, however.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/scaifemain0
Can't blame Hillary Queen for having bad memory. The saddest fact is that some people will vote for this misspoken person no matter how many times she and Bill have lost their mind and don't even care to show their $15 millions to those poor and middle hard-working folks.
I don't know that this is mistrust of her motives or her experience. The Clintons have become wealthy. Because they are wealthy, they are insulated from the consequences of the public policy and international relations decisions. It is a general principle, really, that we should be wary of putting wealthy people into government because they often just don't get it.
Why is everyone bashing Hillary. Look at Obama, he has no common sense, because he said he disagrees with Rev. Wright's racist remarks. Yet he has been going to the same church for 20 years. If he disargreed with Rev. Wright's remarks he could have left his church at any time. Are we going to elect someone who has been lectured about hate. America needs to start realizng, that Obama is not going to be the savior of this country.
Funny thing about sniper fire,especially if it is military trained personnel, nobody walks away????
Hillary is most trustworthly of them all! She has many years of showing her
ability to lead. What about the press giving McKain a free ride on his being
a member of the KEATING 5? where he took money from Keatung during
the saving and loan trouble? Do you call rhat honorable? Come on! All the
other Senators left, but McKain stayed on. Be careful what you wish for!
Check out "THE KEATING FIVE"
Interesting since R Hiatt's dad had a strange fondness for buffalo - wink wink.
Hillary Clinton will win the popular vote and the superdelegates will decide just who is electable and who is not.
The actual poll numbers are: Obama 35, Clinton 26. So it's not actually "striking distance" for Hillary.
The Clintons cannot be trusted. Watch how Hilalry keeps moving the goalposts. She has already openly asked to change the rules on Michigan and Florida that she had earlier agreed to. She has said that pledged delegates, popular votes, numbers of state, caucuses, even superdelegates do not have to count. Now it is the electoral states in play. She plays the gender card all the time--threatening that the (white) women base will not vote for Obama. The Clintons play the race card, denigrating Obama as only an black affirmative action front-runner. Hillary's fearmongering 3 am telephone call ad and her lies on Obama and NAFTA plus the Rush Limbaugh cross-over mischief Republicans for Hillary won her Texas and Ohio. The Clintons' tax returns prove she lies about identifying with blue-collar women. She pays over $40,000 each to keep her houses clean, much more than what blue-collar women are paid each year. The Clintons' so-called charity millions go to the Clinton family foundation, controlled by Bill, Hill and Chelsea, and of the one-quarter spent so far of this tax-deduction shell game, much has gone to the projects of political persons who have endorsed them--see Walter Mondale, even now angling for another ambassadorship in the next Clinton dynastic regime. If or when the Clintons steal the nomination, it will not be merely apathy but the destruction of the Democratic Party, leading to the installation of an Independent Party. Please, North Carolina, turn the page, from liars and the politics of divide-and-rule, to the 21st century for a better America.
If any one of us lied on our resume, job interview, or employment application we would be immediately disqualified by the employer for the job. Hillary's continuing lies and distortions clearly show that she is not presidential material and that she is unworthy of the job.
Hillary Clinton can’t manage her own marriage how will she manage our country?
And after that, she will say that she forgot that she saw it on TV and wasn't actually there..
Wasn't Hillary there at Kittyhawk flying with the Wright brothers? (That ought to get her a few extra votes)..................................OOOOOPPS, that was in 1903!! She really looks pretty good for 125 doesn't she?
North Carolinians seem to be pretty good at judging character. I hope they remember in the general election, though, that being able to count on McCain to always say what he thinks - to always say the first thing that pops into his head - is not always a good thing. His "straight talk" is sometimes inaccurate and usually undiplomatic.
She also lied about an uninsured pregnant woman who lost her baby and died herself after being denied care by an Ohio hospital because she could not come up with a $100 fee.
luvwknd, you're an idiot. Not a fan of Obama, but you're an ignorant fool. Learn a LITTLE of economics, too, you moron. The CLINTONS had as little to do with the economic and tech boom as they did the bust that ensued.
People vote for Clinton because she does not remember the bad stuffs.
Nothing her pollster team should not be able to handle, right? I mean that pollster team of hers should help Senator Clinton "tell people what they want to hear." I understand that Communications director Howard Wolfson and pollster Geoff Garin are to direct the campaign's message and strategic efforts for the campaign going forward now that Mark Penn has been fired. While Penn had pushed Hillary Clinton to adopt a meat-and-potatoes, issue-based campaign that stressed her "strength and experience," Howard Wolfston on the other hand had been more of an advocate of the "kitchen sink" campaign. So, expect some more mudslinging, straw-man, innuendo and red herring coming your way.
i wonder how these polls are figured?
i think it'd be safe to say that a large % of the "newly registered" have cell phones vs land lines which would place them out of poll researchers..
Wouldn't Obama's strength then be UNDER reported?
There are some great comments here, but also some very ignorant ones. Obama is not a Muslim. I am not going to vote for him because I don't agree with anything he says. Certainly not because he is black or has a "middle eastern" sounding name. Stupidity at its finest. Furthermore, the successful economic years of the Clinton's were due to economic cycles and the balancing of the budget by Bush
Sr. Remember the economy was already starting to slow in the beginning of 2000, months before Bush took office.
Hillary's seeming inability to 'face facts' and her history of 'creating factoids' is disturbing. We need a president, ready and willing to embrace reality and inspire us to do something about it. She has not been able to do this in the past ... she is not doing so now ... I doubt she can do it in the future. Obama inspires. We need inspiration. I like him.
I just wanted to say that although I thought it was very distasteful for the freshman to bring up "the blue dress" especially to Chelsea Clinton. I did not like her response that it was none of her business.
We were paying his salary, and he did this on the job. That makes it our business.
Hillary is a big fat liar!
Interesting posts, but I cast a bit of doubt on the claim that Barack Obama was not a professor. Under the quite-accommodating criteria where he taught, he could legitimately be considered a professor.
As a North Carolina voter I'll be going to the polls to vote for Hillary. She is a liar and a con artist. Her opponent is a one man political freakshow. Sorry, but if a candidate were a participant in Klan rallies, reasonable people wouldn't vote for him because they would assume he has racist tendencies. Members of "Reverend" Jeremiah Wright's racist hate group should be accorded the same status. Hillary should adopt the same campaign slogan Edwin Edwards after he was convicted of embezzlement in his gubernatorial race against David Duke: "Vote for the creep, it's important."
hillary was also with christopher columbus in the pinta when he discovered america....
she says she was drawing the map, and chris merely followed her directions...
HILLARY CLINTON, VERSES OBAMA I'LL TAKE OBAMA, ANY DAY,
All politicians are liars and con artist to some degree, how else would they have gotten as far as they have? And it is surprising how some of them are not even held accountable for this (of course until it's too late and we elect them), because too many people are easily influenced by there "eloquent" words and speeches (hint hint).
It's unfortunate, that some of the "politicians" who say things that matter and put forth ideas that could truly help rebuild our country (the Ron Paul's and Mike Gravel's) just don't achieve the popularity that the other, more "charismatic" candidates do. Wake up people! Use your minds, not your hearts, to judge these people.
No, it's totally true. Hillary really did hunt Buffalo with the Sioux.
Maybe Hillary can't fool all of the people some of the time. Lying is such second nature to the Clintons - my stomach just turns. If the Dems want a chance in November, they will finish nominating Obama - at least he isn't like the week old fish that the Clintons are....
The last time we elected a politician with as little experience as Obama's we ended up with George Bush. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Obama can deliver a speech but he can't deliver the goods. I remember the Clinton years and would like another dose of balanced budget, low unemployment, and a focus on health care for all. I'm sorry but Obama is like the contestants on "Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader" who borrow answers by copying the smart kids and who then delude themselves into believing they came up with the answer themselves. Hillary is smart, experienced, and never sat through 20 years of sermons where the minister condemned America then lied about having been absent during the controversial rants. St. Obama would sell out his grandmother to save a few percentage points in the polls (oh wait, he actually did). Obama Bin Laden is not my president.
The lies told by both Clinton and Obama in these primaries will have me voting Republican. At least the republican is about as democrat as a republican can be... Clinton's lies are all well documented, but many of Obama's go unreported. It is quite disturbing, and anyone that brings it up seems to fear being called a racist. The comments by his pastor were nothing short of disturbing and really call into question Obama's true beliefs. His real estate dealings with Rezko are extremely troubling. To enter into a land deal with someone known to be under federal investigation seriously call into question his judgement.
I have no problem trusting Hillary. I could care less whether she misspoke or lied about Bosnia. That story did not sway me to back her, so if it is untrue, it doesn't take away from what I liked about her before. All the candidates exaggerate; do we really need to go through those lists again. And I would never presume to hold anything that she said about believing her husband about his affair against her. She did no wrong , there. It doesn't affect her credibility to me.
What I do know is that her stances on the issues that she has spoken about are matched by her voting history and the bills that she has sponsored or co-sponsored. So, on the issues, I trust what she says and that she has the experience and ability to make good on them. I also believe her record of working on the same causes that are near and dear to my heart, universal health care, women's and children's rights, job training, education, etc. No matter what her detractors say, they have not been able to impune her record on these issues.
Are white people afraid that Obama is a racist because of his paster? Do they forget he's as white as he is black and the mom and grand mom that raised him are white? He has white relatives all over Kansas. It's a funny country we live it. Obama is only referred to as African American when he could just as well be referred to as "white." The media can't even bring themselves to refer to him as "mixed race." You can't play the race card against him because he is you!
The last time we elected a politician with as little experience as Obama's we ended up with George Bush. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Obama can deliver a speech but he can't deliver the goods. I remember the Clinton years and would like another dose of balanced budget, low unemployment, and a focus on health care for all. I'm sorry but Obama is like the contestants on "Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader" who borrow answers by copying the smart kids and who then delude themselves into believing they came up with the answer themselves. Hillary is smart, experienced, and never sat through 20 years of sermons where the minister condemned America then lied about having been absent during the controversial rants. St. Obama would sell out his grandmother to save a few percentage points in the polls (oh wait, he actually did). Obama Bin Laden is not my president.
She "misspoke" THREE TIMES and stuck to her story, attacking Sinbad for outing her, until the videotape aired.
She lied about her February fundraising, claiming it was $35 million, but that figure includes the $5 million she "loaned" herself and $10 million siphoned from her Senate campaign warchest.
Sorry Hillary you can't claim $35 million in donations if you're pulling it out of one pocket and putting it into the other.
Even if America forgets Obama's lies about his pastor, Rezko and how proud he is about his 50% african american background, but not his 50% white, just by the way he talked about his grandmother, He WILL NOT be president. On the best scenario, if he gets his party nomination, it will be a Gore II, he might even get most of the popular vote but never the college electoral votes needed to be President. I am an independent and also realistic. He will never carry Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania , in any combination to get the presidency. It is reality!!
Charlie Manson for President in 08!
Yes who can trust the Clintons,,, I wonder if Hillary and Bill $109 million earnings have anything to do with the 140 pardons handed out on Bills last night in office to the criminally rich and the terrorist group FALN?
Hillary and the word trust in the same sentence must always include the word, "NO!"
Hillary single handedly stopped the genocide in Rwanda didn't she? Oh that's right, the Clinton administration let hundreds of thousands die because there wasn't anything in their mini-polls that indicated they could immediately gain from it.
Hillary Clinton is an icon of everything that is evil about politicians. It's time to get rid of old politics (and politicians!)
"I am waiting for Hilary in the North Dakota campaign to announce that she remembers going on buffalo hunts with the Sioux Indians.
Posted by R Hiatt April 7, 08 11:31 AM"
really funny comment....lol.
And when God said, "Let there be light," John McCain flipped the switch. Well, he's old enough to have been present anyway. And when Rev. Wright said, no wait, in 20 years of church membership, Obama was never there for any of Wright's sermons. And that's the truth. ; -)
There's only one positive comment about Hillary in the first 50, and that's from a racist. There are real negatives on Obama: his views on abortion for example, but the bottom line is Hillary has run a very poor campaign. The deal was hers for the taking, and she's messed it up. It probably wouldn't bode well for her Presidency.
I'm waiting for Obama to start insulting his grandmother again.
Hillary was always a liar. Whitewater, Filegate, Travelgate.
I'll insult Hillary's grandmother, she raised a daughter who then raised HER daughter to have a sick sense of entitlement.
America, it's time to stop the madness!
No more Bush Clinton Bush Clinton!
Nadar, Dennis Kucinich or anyone BUT Hillary (UGH!) Clinton!
No one I know trusts Clinton and yet she keeps getting all these people voting for her. I think that Hillary supporters are living in denial, waiting for her to say something that they can believe. I will only believe her when she says that she is dropping out of the race........ NOT
Absolutely amazing, maybe the media can keep licking Hillary's feet a little longer. Here you have a senior campaign strategist meeting with Colombians on a trade deal and Hillary knows nothing about it. Kind of shows her judgement about the people she hires. This is not like someone who didn't know what he was doing. We are talking about negotiations with the Colombians. So this is good for Clinton? She didn't distance herself from him,just gave him a demotion. Instead of 1 million dollars a month, he now only receives 500,000 per month. So you really think that this is good for Hillary ?
This biased media will never cease to amaze me especially comments from the right. Well Major,
you just don't have a clue. If Obama lost Ohio based on the possibility of someone just talking about NAFTA with the Canadians, this is actively campaigning for the Colombians to get a free trade agreement. Please Pennsylvania end this nightmare once and for all and vote for Obama.
Clinton and her administration are overly arrogant. There is no heir to entitlement to this Presidency for her.
Obama may have made some mistakes, but he is genuine and honest.
She can return to the sniper fire in Bosnia for all I care. Oh, but wait, this was all in her head!
We Islamists prefer the Muslim, Obama, but, Hillary is our 2nd choice.
Jihad is holy. Praise Muhammed!!
this is the democrats top 2 choices?
A black Muslim and a crazy woman?
lol
The poll result you dangle here is preposterous. If the GOP was the winner the question must have had to do with senility and wrinkles.
Dear Readers:
I trust a woman, who against all odds, has demonstrated she is willing to serve her country, whether as a young reasearch lawyer, durinig the Nixon trials, as Arkansa's First Lady, The Nation's First Lady and currently as Senator in my state of New York. She is a public servant and intellectually driven woman. The United States needs an American whose credentials are the strongest to lead our Nation through the world's crisis that the Bush legacy has left us. Hillary is the only qualified American, left in this race, from either side Dem or Rep. to take on this enormous task. No more learning on the job!
She is ready and I am voting for Hillary.
> Don't trust Hillary Clinton? What, but they'll trust a black man with a middle eastern name? Barack Hussein Obama? I'd trust Hillary before I'd trust a person of islamic descent that's for sure!
The sad thing is, I'm not convinced you're being sarcastic.
> I can understand not trusting Hillary, but How can anyone trust Obama? He can't make a hard decision to save his own life, nor can he man up when he does say or do something that later comes up not to be of popular opinion.
Right. That's why he would never man up and confront a sensitive issue like race directly, when the politically safe thing to do is wait for it to blow over. I mean, if he had done something, say, given a speech that was lauded as "historic", people would remember that. It might even be credited with saving his campaign.
> "God D---American". Obama says he didn't hear it??
He was in another state during that particular sermon. There was quite a fuss at the very start of his campaign about him "un-inviting" his pastor and distancing himself from him, but it didn't get any press coverage before the videos came out.
Wait until the general election. We'll probably see Hagee videos at some point for John McCain to denounce. I'm surprised we haven't already, but I guess people are saving their ammunition for a more critical time.
Didn't Hillary mention how she stood there with Washinton at Valley Forge during the war of Independence?
Oh... I guess she "misspoke".
"Have you ever found anyone who trusts Obama for his association with his dear Uncle Wright? "
You certainly aren't "looking" very carefully, dear bloggrt. Try going to www.barackobama.com where nearly 2,000,000 have made contributions to his campaign. I'm going there right now to donate another $100 to defend him against haters and bigots like you. Senator Obama leasd by example, and with his calm intelligence, and ability to listen to all sides0 especially ones that he doesn't agree with- has the ability to unite rather than divide. He will actually be able to end the type of rhetoric so prevalent on both sides of the political spectrum by rstoring hope in the American dream for all. It's change that we can believe in.
I believe Senator Obama when he said,
"I have already condemned, in unequivocal terms, the statements of Reverend Wright that have caused such controversy. For some, nagging questions remain. Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely - just as I'm sure many of you have heard remarks from your pastors, priests, or rabbis with which you strongly disagreed.
But the remarks that have caused this recent firestorm weren't simply controversial. They weren't simply a religious leader's effort to speak out against perceived injustice. Instead, they expressed a profoundly distorted view of this country - a view that sees white racism as endemic, and that elevates what is wrong with America above all that we know is right with America; a view that sees the conflicts in the Middle East as rooted primarily in the actions of stalwart allies like Israel, instead of emanating from the perverse and hateful ideologies of radical Islam.
As such, Reverend Wright's comments were not only wrong but divisive, divisive at a time when we need unity; racially charged at a time when we need to come together to solve a set of monumental problems - two wars, a terrorist threat, a falling economy, a chronic health care crisis and potentially devastating climate change; problems that are neither black or white or Latino or Asian, but rather problems that confront us all.
Given my background, my politics, and my professed values and ideals, there will no doubt be those for whom my statements of condemnation are not enough. Why associate myself with Reverend Wright in the first place, they may ask? Why not join another church? And I confess that if all that I knew of Reverend Wright were the snippets of those sermons that have run in an endless loop on the television and You Tube, or if Trinity United Church of Christ conformed to the caricatures being peddled by some commentators, there is no doubt that I would react in much the same way
But the truth is, that isn't all that I know of the man. The man I met more than twenty years ago is a man who helped introduce me to my Christian faith, a man who spoke to me about our obligations to love one another; to care for the sick and lift up the poor. He is a man who served his country as a U.S. Marine; who has studied and lectured at some of the finest universities and seminaries in the country, and who for over thirty years led a church that serves the community by doing God's work here on Earth - by housing the homeless, ministering to the needy, providing day care services and scholarships and prison ministries, and reaching out to those suffering from HIV/AIDS.
In my first book, Dreams From My Father, I described the experience of my first service at Trinity:
"People began to shout, to rise from their seats and clap and cry out, a forceful wind carrying the reverend's voice up into the rafters....And in that single note - hope! - I heard something else; at the foot of that cross, inside the thousands of churches across the city, I imagined the stories of ordinary black people merging with the stories of David and Goliath, Moses and Pharaoh, the Christians in the lion's den, Ezekiel's field of dry bones. Those stories - of survival, and freedom, and hope - became our story, my story; the blood that had spilled was our blood, the tears our tears; until this black church, on this bright day, seemed once more a vessel carrying the story of a people into future generations and into a larger world. Our trials and triumphs became at once unique and universal, black and more than black; in chronicling our journey, the stories and songs gave us a means to reclaim memories that we didn't need to feel shame about...memories that all people might study and cherish - and with which we could start to rebuild."
That has been my experience at Trinity. Like other predominantly black churches across the country, Trinity embodies the black community in its entirety - the doctor and the welfare mom, the model student and the former gang-banger. Like other black churches, Trinity's services are full of raucous laughter and sometimes bawdy humor. They are full of dancing, clapping, screaming and shouting that may seem jarring to the untrained ear. The church contains in full the kindness and cruelty, the fierce intelligence and the shocking ignorance, the struggles and successes, the love and yes, the bitterness and bias that make up the black experience in America.
And this helps explain, perhaps, my relationship with Reverend Wright. As imperfect as he may be, he has been like family to me. He strengthened my faith, officiated my wedding, and baptized my children. Not once in my conversations with him have I heard him talk about any ethnic group in derogatory terms, or treat whites with whom he interacted with anything but courtesy and respect. He contains within him the contradictions - the good and the bad - of the community that he has served diligently for so many years.
These are the words of a fundamentally good man who I will be voting for.
Obama joined Rev. Wright's church primarily for political reasons. Every politician needs to create a base in order to win elections and Wright's church happened to be the vehicle to create his base. I wouldn't be surprised if Obama did not even attend the church often for the sermons.
Also, did anyone here actually listen to Wright's entire sermon (which happens to be available online)? Do you feel that you can make accurate remarks about it after listening to only what the media has given you? If you trust the media to represent anything accurately without doing your own fact-checking then I have pity for you.
Have any of you done any research into the good deeds and service that the Church has done? This Wright thing is so overblown it is amazing. The fact that people actually believe that Obama is muslim is astounding. I am convinced that there is no evidence that would sway these people from believing that because they want to believe it. It seems that people are trying really hard to grasp for reasons to not vote for Obama when the majority of those reasons are dubious at best.
For those who say that Obama cannot make hard decisions I have this to say. The easy decision for Obama would have been to disown Wright. Instead he chose the more difficult decision to not disown him but rather to denounce his inflammatory remarks. Certainly it would have been easier and more politically advantageous for him to disown Wright entirely.
The fact that he has inspired so many young Americans to be interested in the political process is important and should not be overlooked.
Any for any of you that are interested in the crazy religious people that Clinton is associated with just google "doug coe and clinton". Doug Coe makes Wright look like nothing at all
OBAMA LEADS 54 to 33 IN NC In a survey of 928 likely Democratic primary voters conducted April 5 and 6, 54 percent were planning to vote for Obama, 33 percent for Sen. Hillary Clinton, and 13 percent remained undecided. ÒEven with both candidates now running TV ads in the state, Obama is maintaining his lead in that solid 20 point range, Public Policy Polling President Dean Debnam said. Public Policy Polling is known for representing many Democratic clients. OBAMA LEADS 56 to 33 IN NC In the latest WRAL News poll, 56 percent of likely Democratic voters said they would give Obama their support in the Democratic primary. Thirty-three percent chose Clinton, and 11 percent were unsure. http://www.wral.com/news/local/politics/story/2695759/ OBAMA LEADS 54 to 33 IN NC In a survey of 928 likely Democratic primary voters conducted April 5 and 6, 54 percent were planning to vote for Obama, 33 percent for Sen. Hillary Clinton, and 13 percent remained undecided. ÒEven with both candidates now running TV ads in the state, Obama is maintaining his lead in that solid 20 point range, Public Policy Polling President Dean Debnam said. Public Policy Polling is known for representing many Democratic clients. OBAMA LEADS 56 to 33 IN NC In the latest WRAL News poll, 56 percent of likely Democratic voters said they would give Obama their support in the Democratic primary. Thirty-three percent chose Clinton, and 11 percent were unsure. http://www.wral.com/news/local/politics/story/2695759/ OBAMA LEADS 56 to 33 IN NC, per Rasmussen, on 4/3/2008
I do feel Hillary Clinton is the most qualified "applicant" for the job of President among our choices and support her. HOWEVER, I was very angry with her when she lied about being under fire in Bosnia! What was she thinking? She already has trust issues and she makes up a story? I like Bill and Hillary Clinton, but sometimes just want to shake them. They open their mouths and help their enemies by stepping in it far too often. If/when Hillary looses it will sadly be her own fault for these "misstatements" and a very poorly run campaign until it was too late.
It is true that most politicians are liars, at least to some extent--In fact, all self-promoters tend to lie. But, some liars verge on "pathological" fringe. They have no respect for truth when it interferes with their self-interests, and they are numb about the shame of being exposed dishonest. I found Bill and Hillary belonging to this category. It is sad to see people take Hillary seriously after being burned by Bill.
"I trust a woman, who against all odds, has demonstrated she is willing to serve her country, whether as a young reasearch lawyer, durinig the Nixon trials, as Arkansa's First Lady."
Please.
Hillary served as a junior staffer on the House Judicial Committee to impeach Richard Nixon, but was fired for lying and misplacing key documents. According to her boss, Jerome Zeifman, a life long Democrat,
:Zeifman quoted his own 1974 diary, which reports that just four days after Nixon resigned "John Labovitz came to my office and apologized for having participated to some extent to conceal from me the work that was being done. Some months ago, he and Hillary lied intentionally to me and told me there were no drafts of proposed rules of procedure for the [Nixon] impeachment inquiry."
That's basically what [Hillary] Clinton and Labovitz did, Zeifman claims. In other words, they drew up new impeachment protocols to replace those in existence since Jefferson's day -- and then denied it. Congress -- and the country -- would have been completely polarized if it had seemed Nixon was being railroaded out of office with new rules, Zeifman said. (New York Daily News – Feb.12, 1996)
Nixon was likely guilty of the Watergate cover-up. But Ruth's memo to Jaworski shows there really wasn’t any "smoking gun" evidence of it.
And that's likely why Hillary Diane Rodham, who regarded Nixon as "evil," according to Clinton biographer David Maraniss, had to discard impeachment rules in place for two centuries in order to nail her quarry.
Now that America faces its second impeachment crisis in as many generations, it's worth remembering how the rules were bent by partisans committed to destroying a presidency -- when the target was Richard Nixon. And how the media looked the other way when it happened.
When this was all over with she failed the D.C. bar exam twice- something that only 2% of the Yale Law graduates have done in the past, then went to Arkansas with her boyfriend Bill. Obviously worked out for both of them. She proved very useful in his Bimbo defenses.Washington
As "First Lady" in Arkansas, she spent most of her time at the anti labor Rose Law Firm and sitting on the anti labor Wal-Mart Board of Directors. Great experiences all. Now that they have made $109,000,000 in just a few years, do you really think that the Clintons will change anything in corporate Washington? Look at her fat cat donors to understand what drives the Clintons.
No more Clintons in the White House. We just can't afford eight more years of greed, drama, and shame.
I think most of the blogs here are written by the Obama campaign people who are paid to do it. How shameful!!! Hillary is not the only one who lies, remember that. Most Obama fans are just like the George W fans; no results but still have that blind faith in him. Obama wants to unite? Remember what the last "uniter" has done tot he country! Obama fans would probably believe him if he promised them that the Easter bunny would visit them evrey Easter sunday!!! Most of them sound more like cheerleaders!
Remember White Water, pork futures instant profits, Vince Foster's suicide, White Water documents that were illegally revoved from his office? Remember Travelgate, and the 80 trips around the globe on Air Force One (multi-million dollar expense)? Remember Bill's raging, out-of-control hormones? Remember the national treasures missing from the White House when they moved to New York? I have a very good memory. Sen. Obama at least reminds me of why I am a Democrat. He is not a national embarrassment. He impresses me as a man of grace under fire. I already know about HRC's character--it is not admirable. I believe that President Obama will unite this country and other countries on the planet. He may prove to be a man of destiny; he deserves our vote.
Hillary mistakes her hot flashes for sniper fire.
Barack Obama was a college professor. He taught Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago, a well-known and highly respected university in the United States.
why is it that most of the anti-obama posts rarely lack references to his pastor's words and some guy named rezko? what else do you have? do you have any issues that dont require mr. obama to be unfairly guilted by association? somehow, i doubt it. on the other hand, it is clinton's own words and actions that discredit her. can you say sour grapes?
Don't forget OBAMA has DUAL CITIZENSHIP - ALSO A CITIZEN OF KENYA, which he has not renounced, and yet people don't trust Hillary? The Clinton's did a lot for the working class -- things that made an everyday difference. We got portability in insurance, we got Family Medical Leave. That's just two things. You KNOW what you're getting with Hillary. Heaven forbid what we may bet with Osama Obama.
So add this up:
1. in Trinity church with hateful Rev. Wright for 20 years, lets' his kids hear this stuff. (This is a black liberation church)
2. Comes up VERY fast in dirty Chicago politics -- talks regulary with Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson
3. Wife Michelle - anti-American - wrote anti-white black liberation thesis.
4. Tied with Syrian Tony Rezko and lied about how strong his ties were.
And people don't trust Hillary? INTERESTING.
Clinton's are since long in the politics, and so people know a lot about them. Obama is just a few yeas in.. So who knows his past. Since he have not spoken so much, you cannot find so many contradicting statements. But in the time to come.. he should we the same.
It's all because he wants to win the election.
Obama all the way fuck hillary that bicth lied
Hillary support her president on NAFTA. Hillary support her president on Iraq's war.
She's a pushover, not a leader.
Some of the arguments made here against voting for Barack Obama are the same ignorant, irrational, irrelevant, fear-based talking points used by people who wouldn't vote for him anyway. Some people are just not ready for the real deal, and are willing to continue to settle for outdated, un-evolved, "someone told me he's a Muslim and he doesn't look like me and I'm nervous" mentality. I wonder how many of you golf with Black friends, ot do you continue to believe your experience living in the US is the only one. What I see in Barack is the reality of this country - good and bad, but real, honest, authentic, willing to do what need to be done and say what needs to be said to actually get some stuff done. I am glad all the superdelegates supporting Obama are a bit more...um....evolved in their thinking. If we do not elect Barack Obama this November, we deserve everything we get...
The most amazing thing is that nearly everyone on here trusts the MEDIA!!! Comment after Comment is some extension of the headlines from the media. If you really care take time to look deeper into the issues. How many of you who are bashing Obama read his pastor's full sermon, it's obviously from your comments very few, this situation epitomizes "taken out of context". The only thing that angered me was Obama didn't stick up for him more. How many people have read exactly what Hillary did as first lady?....as far as first ladies go she was amazingly active. These are just two prime examples. These two candidates can't get to the issues if they tried b/c the media won't let them, they have to be constantly defending themselves from some story grown from the media. Unfortunately since we get all of our news from the headlines and are too lazy and ignorant to look any deeper they have to play the strategic games to try to catch our attention or brush something behind them quick. I could go on forever....but if you really care take time and look into it, CNN, FOX, MSNBC etc....are corporations all of them, they only care about one thing and that is pleasing the stock holder, remember they are competing with sitcoms and shows like "House" and "24" for ratings and advertisement money, they must make a drama out of it
there is NO way I will support a man who peacher Hates the US, and is a total racist, who lies to us with calm cool speechs who also is more ARABIC than African and more white than his skin color, his name is total Arabian, no afican I know goes by Hussien! all the black people dont have Hussien in their names do they. people dont trust Hillary , But I sure in the hell wouldnt vote for a Arabian President , Obma still believes the white people own him who he kidding he not even BLACK or AFRICAN, he a Arab period., I laugh how these people cut Hillary down, but wont say hay against a racist out of FEAR. Iam ready shotgun in hand, for the looters and burners who will differently cry racist when Obama BOY is giving a good ole southern whipping.
Chris asked how you know if Hil-LIE-ry is telling a lie. That is an old question with an old answer.
You can tell that Hil-LIAR-y is telling a lie if her lips are moving!
To all the Clinton supporters on this blog:
It's pretty clear from your posts, that you are part of her "non-college" base of support.
Which one running isn't a liar?
They've all lied, they will all continue to lie.
They will all promise you anything.
I guess the best liar tells you what you want to hear,
and as usual when people hear what they want to hear , whether truth or ficition
that is where their vote is going.
Obama is the leader to lead this country. It's time for a change. The U.S. needs to focus on the economy. We need to focus on US!! I want someone new out there representing me.
If Obama is beaten by Clinton, THEN I'm voting for HER come November!! That is the bottom line.
We need to beat McCain!! He's the opposing player here, NOT Clinton nor Obama. We need to stop fighting amongst fellow Democrats!! Stop Hating Obama!!! Stop Hating Clinton!! Let's get together and beat McCain!!! No more WAR, No more subsidies for the Oil companies, No more cutting educational budgets, No more tax cuts for the Wealthy, NO MORE of this!! The Republicans had their chance when they controlled all of the government!! It's time for the DEMOCRATS WHETHER IT'S OBAMA or CLINTON!! Let's unite for a shift in government.