Clinton ad: Ignore the pundits

"It's not over until the lady in the pantsuit says so." West Virginia was a blowout loss for Obama, with PEOPLE POWER proclaiming Sen. Clinton is the Democratic presidential nominee.

Obama has been orchestrating daily endorsements with fabricated fluff as an attempted end run around the presidential nomination process. This tactic shall fail.

The Democratic presidential nomination process calls for all states to vote in the primaries. At the conclusion of these primaries and resolution of the FL and MI voting, the superdelegates are mandated to select the best qualified presidential candidate to win the general election using their independent judgment without regard to any delegate count. The primary season is still in progress and Sen. Clinton's campaign for the future of America and all Americans continues. Obama has no presumptive lock on the Democratic presidential nomination. Sen. Clinton is the best qualified presidential candidate to defeat John McGain in the general election, and she will be the Democratic nominee.

The pro-Obama biased media have interfered in, undermined, and subverted the Democratic presidential nomination process. The pro-Obama biased media continue to sabotage Sen. Clinton's campaign with impunity. This media tyranny is our democracy's worse enemy.

crat3

Go do some reading and grab a calculator while you are at it. Show us the math that Hillary can win. Untill then crawl back under your bridge and quit trolling. I am an oregonian and I KNOW Obama is going to sweep this state!

Obama 08'

The Ad says, "She's been right when it matters?"

Her failure to manage her campaign strategy doesn't matter?
Her failure to manage her campaign finances doesn't matter?
So her vote for Iraq doesn't matter?
Her failed attempt to pass HealthCare reform doesn't matter?
Her 'CLAIMED' failed attempt to limit NAFTA doesn't matter?
Her ignorance of her husbands abuse of power as Governer and President doesn't matter?

In fact, when has she been right?

Your 'PEOPLE POWER' has no power. Do you recall months ago when Sen. Obama was slammed by the media for being called a Muslim and had no Christian faith? The Flag Pin, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, 'elitist', and so many other ridiculous claims to his un-candidacy? You saying Clinton is being renounced by the media is a simple plea for pitty. Obama has shown he has the courage and realism to take on the tasks across the globe. Hillary has only shown she will lie and take poor people's money to gain power for the benefit of her family and lobbyists. crat3, you have no argument. Vote for Obama in the General Election, or you may feel dissapointed in the end result - Please read this REAL post by someone who's knowledgable of the change in our country -

For the past couple of weeks, I was amongst those Obama supporters who was trying to mend with Clinton supporters. I strongly believed that Clinton would, after WV, begin to prepare for a graceful and honorable exit which would be carried over the remaining contests. After all, Obama has almost secured the nomination as he leads Clinton by every single available metric.

With her speech in WV, Clinton clarified her position in regard to the rules of the Party. Before and after the primary, Clinton and her surrogates, went all the way in what should be rightfully called a disregard of the internal rule of law of the party. Basically claiming that the rules must be changed, that the millions of voters who have already voted don’t count, and that the elected pledged delegates don’t count either.

What seems to only count for Clinton is the popular vote of some but not all contests (after all many caucus states don’t divulge their numbers) and the superdelegates. This is because those are the two only metrics that she can hope to change in her favor.

While it is true that Clinton and her surrogates have stopped the direct attacks on Obama, they have not stopped (and actually increased) their attacks on the Party’s rules and regulations as well as the will of the majority of its voters thus far.

The Clintons and their surrogates keep moving the goalpost as they see fit and they must have a lot of clout within the upper echelons of the party since no one (where are you Howard Dean?) is telling them they should stop their extralegal attacks on the Party’s rules and regulations.

On Meet the Press last Sunday, talking about the FL and MI delegations, Terry McAuliffe said that "the rule is 50 percent" and that he would be content with 50% of the delegations from those states seated. Now, two days later, they want 100% of the delegates seated as is, even though Clinton herself said back in December, that these primaries "will count for nothing".

Their rationale is that we need 50 states in November but they don’t seem to care about the fact that they might end up with 25 states if they keep pushing their unorthodox efforts and drive away a large chunk of Obama supporters in the process.

Since there is no logical explanation for Clinton’s refusal to play by the rules, the only possible explanation is that what we are witnessing is a pure and simple coup attempt by the Clintons and their surrogates. Now that they cannot win by the rules that they themselves have helped to lay out and that they have accepted at the beginning of the process, they feel it’s ok for them to demand that the rules be changed as they see fit in order to make the math work in their favor.

They now claim that they could win the popular vote but what they are not saying is that they are only referring to those states that hold primaries. Clinton knows very well that some caucus states don't release their popular votes results so, while with one hand she acts as the champion of democratic voters by demanding that FL and MI be seated, on the other hand she is openly trying to disenfranchise the voters of those states where caucuses are held.

Clinton has already passed the point of no return by openly declaring that the number of delegates needed to win the nomination (2,025) is null and void and that the new number should be 2,209. By doing so, she has done great damage to the integrity of the primary process. Clinton and her surrogates have clearly espoused the belief that the end justifies the means and they will not stop their attempts to win the nomination at all costs.

And so we find ourselves in this Orwellian land of double speak where Clinton pretends to be the champion of democracy and the popular vote while she’s openly and directly undermining the democratic process since her only path to the nomination is for the superdelegates to overturn the the will of the pledged delegates.

Clinton has taken a very dangerous route because if she believes that the Obama supporters will sit idly by and let her destroy the integrity of the electoral process of the Democratic party she’s highly mistaken. This was supposed to be the year of the Democrats, the year when the people throw out the Rupublicans because of all their failed policies. Instead, because of the thirst for power of one person, we are more and more likely to witness a civil war within the Party that will cripple it for years to come.

Way to go Mrs. and Mr. Clinton.

http://politicjock.blogspot.com/

Great positive ad! Factually correct, and hopefully bringing Oregonians to understand Obama, who doesnt seem to understand them. (Great lakes are 1700 miles away Senator....) But Obama doesnt seem to care either way, he was already crowned the nominee after he won NC, which was EXPECTED.. btw. Hillary, I believe is the smart choice for nominee, as she will reclaim the white house for those of us who still arent bitter, but optimistic about her plans for the country...

Im glad there was a slam to the PUNDITS in this ad too.. People elect presidents, not high paid political pundits that are among the ELITE Obama will undoubtly support and favor in his administration.

Hopefully God will Bless America with Hillary at the helm in 2008

Hillary's ad should say "ignore the majority of voters."

Obama has been orchestrating daily endorsements with fabricated fluff as an attempted end run around the presidential nomination process. This tactic shall fail.

The pro-Obama biased media have interfered in, undermined, and subverted the Democratic presidential nomination process. The pro-Obama biased media continue to sabotage Sen. Clinton's campaign with impunity. This media tyranny is our democracy's worse enemy.

Citations needed! Without it, this looks like...you guessed it!...an endorsement with fabricated fluff!

Grow up, USA. Your naivete isn't cute anymore.

"It's not over until the lady in the pantsuit says so." West Virginia was a blowout loss for Obama, with PEOPLE POWER proclaiming Sen. Clinton is the Democratic presidential nominee.
Posted by crat3

You've go a typo in there crat. It's supposed to say West Virginia was a blowout loss for Obama, with "WHITE POWER proclaiming Sen. Clinton is the Democratic Nominee. Exit polls don't lie, crat!

Also, WV doesn't speak for the rest of the states, which so far, have picked Obama!

Maybe she hasn't provided McCain enough sound bites and video clips of herself making Obama unelectible. How else is she going to have a shot at 2012? When she told Richardson Obama "can't be elected", that was not a statement. It was an exclamation.

hillary won the important states. obama won zip. he will never get the dem pres nomination. he is only a speech. mc cain and friends will eat him alive. hillary will have the last laugh.

Hey Politicjock -- you are right on the money, my boy.
Only, it's not the thirst for power of one person, it's the Power Partnership of the Clintons. Read "Partnership in Power: the Clintons" by Roger Morris. And, "Orwellian land of doublespeak"? Have we been here before - when the only disbarred President of the United States (still affectionately known the hills of rural Arkansas, Kentucky, W. Va. & N.C. as "Bubba") moved the goalposts as desired? With friends & advisors like Wolfson & Ickes, I doubt that McAuliffe (even he if wanted to) would be able to shout above the raw quest going on here. I am aghast at the number of women & blue collar workers who continue to be fooled by the so-called "softer side" of Clinton (whose surrogates continue to bemoan sexism in this race --- please show me the exit polls of voters who--- like those 20% who admit they won't vote for Obama because of "race" - admit they won't vote for Clinton because of "sex.") I have really not read a single poll or article to give any credence to this stance. The Democratic Party can only hope that those delegate & superdelegate numbers keep rolling in, and that Florida & Michigan get resolved (I watched Terry McAuliffe say the 50% rule on TV), so that it won't matter that Clinton says "we" don't yet have a nominee. I guess we are assuming that she is going by the "2209" total delegate number? I have a feeling that after all votes are in, and the Rules Committee finishes up, Obama will exceed the 2209 number.

If I were a youngster who wanted to study American government and political life, I think I'd want to write a paper on the Clinton candidacy which required that I go back to her first declaration as a candidate and traced her responses or reactivities to events. Maybe someone will write the book. I've been paying close attention since Obama declared and at first I did think it was the dream ticket. Just a few primaries would show us who would earn first chair. Then, oops, whoever preferred Obama became a target as Clinton's campaign began its long (tragic) slide into reactivity. This pattern of attacking, accusing, denying has all but discredited this greatly talented woman as a prospect for either place on the ticket. She does seem to have some supporters, but almost nobody is left unless they are just as loyal as that elephant sitting in the tree and some supporters who have something to gain and some people who don't like Obama. So first Obama was out of touch and then it was the rules about Florida/Michigan and the intention for pledged delegates to keep their pledges and then the superdelegates' role defined as the people who compute the likely general election electoral college outcomes and now the pundits. She hasn't said John Edwards is "out of touch," but there's an undercurrent of suggestion that Elizabeth knows better. It would be a great research profile for someone to do. Step-by-step, she has targeted others while not being able to focus clearly on her own vision. I'm not saying I could do it better. I just thought that she could. I thought that she would have more class.

Let me offer some advise to both camp like any other race there is a finishing line.None of the candidates have reach that mark so it is premature to predict any winner while the signs shows both are neck and neck at this moment.All the hubla and Obamaniac are amount to nothing until the race is finally over and all individual Superdelegates cast their lot.Be patient my friends it can go all the way to Septemper so keep fastening your seatbelt.

sigh...."Obama is better!" "No Hillary is Better!" "No Mcain is Better!" "no Ron Paul isn't getting the press he deserves!" "The media is too biased toward Obama!" "Hillary lies!" McCain is just Bush all over again." "Obama hates America." "Whaite people hate Obama." " McCain is too old."

What a sad state that our population is in if we can not have disagreements without it comming to general hatred of everyone else. Is Hillary a liar? Yes, but so is everyone else....including you and I. Is McCain just "Bush Part 2"? Look at his voting record in the senate and draw and educated conclusion rather than believe what the DNC tells you because you're a regestered Democrat. Is the media in love with Obama? Turn on Fox News if you're not happy with CNNs coverage of him. There's always someone saying something negative about him, and every other canidate.

Perhaps one day we will learn to disagree without alienating everyone who doesn't share our views. Obama, McCain, Hillary the reality is that none of them will have as lange of an effect on the country as the Senate and House. This partisan war is rediculous and destructive. The "We Hate Bush" mantra is tired. If half the people who complained about the way things were actually made an effort to make the world better themselves rather than looking for political parties and canidates to do it we'd live in a much better place. Unfortunately the VAST majority, (I estimate it at 90% or more but it's an opinion), of people in our country are pissed at the worlds problems but too selfish and lazy to actually do anything about it themselves. Altruism in America is fighting for it's life. Teh New Deal has bred a sense of entitlement to our citizens. We embrace the Bill of Rights but want none of the accountability or responsibilities that come with it. To who whom much is given, much is required. God help us all.

Can we write in Senator Clinton in November? I know she says that we need to unite behind the party....but I just can't. I cannot vote for someone that sat in a church like that for 20 years and financed hatred while young impressionable youth listened. Why didn't he stand up for them at the time? Can you understand why these young men are full of anger? I would have believed anything my minister told me from the pulpit at a young age. How can you go to a church as a US Senator and hear any lies preached? I just cannot vote for him.

Say all you want about the Democratic race for the nomination being a roller coaster. That's the past. This race is now all but over except for those who either do not know, lie or pretend Politicians can count and so can we. Senator Obama has run and won a magnificent campaign despite overwhelming odds. I am undeterred by the hocus pocus of the Clinton campaign to change the rules, play dirty and cry foul. I am rather looking forward to an Obama presidency. Obama '08

People argue over everything when there are "candidates" - presidential, or American Idol, etc. :-). It's all a waste of time, wait for it to be over. I am actually not as interested anymore in checking up on the democrat nominee race, it has become too long, I'll just wait and see.

Vote Obama !

Barack Obama for President of the UNITED States of America.

HILLARY FANS:

I would be upset too if Obama had lost but I would still vote for Hillary, even though she has said some things that really bothered me, because in the end:

HILLARY AND BARACK ARE VERY SIMILAR.

Yes, it's sad that after all this time it's over. But if you believe in her message remember that much of it lives on in Obama.

NO MORE WAR, BETTER HEALTH CARE, ETC.

This year holds so much potential because it is looking like the Democrats will win enough to actually be able to pass some laws without Republican opposition and veto power.

VOTE DEMOCRAT IF YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT AND STOP THE HATING!

To all of the Hillary insanyacs, "The Lady in the Pants Suit has sung!"

MI and FL will not count, why you may ask, well because they broke the rules!! I do feel sorry for the people who's vote will not count, but don't punish Obama for following the rules. He was not on the ballot in MI. As for FL, Hillary spent money there even though she said she wouldn't. Obama didn't!

If one were to follow the rules, then the magic number is 2,025!! Not some what ifs, that say if the Dems were like the GOP!! My goodness, Hillary will break every rule or agreement to get into the WH.

If we follow the rules, Hillary has no Mathamatical chance of winning. Her superdelegate lead is gone, and Obamas pledged delegate lead is to wide for her to catch up.

The superdelegates can save the Democratic Party (and the Supreme Court) in November by switching their votes to Hillary Clinton. This isn't over.

We REALLY REALLY resent the media hi-jacking this election, and arrogantly bestowing upon itself the power to make a President. Obama is ONLY this much ahead because the media gave him a free pass, allowing him to rise while Clinton took enough mudslinging for two.

Clinton must run as an Independent [not vp] if Obama weasels the nom.

The media should BUTT OUT already.

Clinton has millions and millions of loyal supporters who want her in. You haters and Obama cultists should also zip it. "J. Houx " should save his rambling manifesto for his blog.

Only God and Hillary know why she is still running. I think she is living in another world because in the real world she has no chance of winning. She is really starting to remind me of the lady in the movie "Fatal Attraction." That lady was a nut case!

To Chris,
Hillary and Obama may have similar policy positions but I have serious doubts about Obama's ability to execute. His campaign has been a fine tuned machine--run by David Axelrod. I am not voting for David Axelrod for President. Obama is very carefully scripted. He was talking to reporters on his campaign plane the other day and his Communications Director had to be right there with him, babysitting. When events occur, he issues a prepared statement--prepared by who? If he becomes the President, he will have to do so without my vote. I won't vote for McCain, but I won't vote for Obama either. I believe Hillary Clinton is the best qualified candidate and that's who I intend to vote for by write in.

Hey, Jim

Sexist tactics designed to undermine strong ambitious women are antiquated.

Calling Clinton a nut case reveals much about who you are.

There are multiple logical and affirmative reasons why she should stay in this race. Were she a man you'd be crowing about her resilience and fortitude and "never say die" attitude.

We dearly hope you are not a father of daughters, or a teacher.

I love baseball.

In all the games I've watched, I never saw a pitcher walk up to the batter and say, "Hey, you're behind--it's the 9th inning--you need to load the bases and get a grand slam. And even then, we will have to go into overtime. I'm tired and would like to go home and rest up for the championship which I obviously will win. Why don't you just put your bat down and leave."

I've seen that grand slam more than once.

I am tired of Hillary supporters claiming the media hijacked the election. They are somehow trying to make the claim that the people voting for Obama are the ones easily swayed by the media, and the ones for Hillary are more informed and able to resist the media.

This is 100% backwards.

Every poll shows that Obama leads in younger more internet savy boters, higher educated voters and independents. Each of these groups is know to be more fickle and research more on canidates.

Hillary is supported by the rural voters, the uneducated and the elderly. This is the group likely to vote how they are told, they hear a lie (Muslim, supports terrorisim) and they never follow up to get the facts.

Any ration person can see the media attacks on Obama are more damaging because they target the ignorant voter who isn't able to research both sides and make a valid decision.

Want Proof? Search for Obama Muslim, Flag Pins, Bitter, Sweetie. I think its great that Obama is so strong the only way to attack him is this petty crap that doesn't sway opinion, but only re-enforces people who would never vote in the first place.

If your vote for president is on who wears a flag pin (none of them do) then you don't get to sit with the adults and talk about real issues.

I am tired of Hillary supporters claiming the media hijacked the election. They are somehow trying to make the claim that the people voting for Obama are the ones easily swayed by the media, and the ones for Hillary are more informed and able to resist the media.

This is 100% backwards.

Every poll shows that Obama leads in younger more internet savy boters, higher educated voters and independents. Each of these groups is know to be more fickle and research more on canidates.

Hillary is supported by the rural voters, the uneducated and the elderly. This is the group likely to vote how they are told, they hear a lie (Muslim, supports terrorisim) and they never follow up to get the facts.

Any ration person can see the media attacks on Obama are more damaging because they target the ignorant voter who isn't able to research both sides and make a valid decision.

Want Proof? Search for Obama Muslim, Flag Pins, Bitter, Sweetie. I think its great that Obama is so strong the only way to attack him is this petty crap that doesn't sway opinion, but only re-enforces people who would never vote in the first place.

If your vote for president is on who wears a flag pin (none of them do) then you don't get to sit with the adults and talk about real issues.

Dear Hillary Dems,
It really seems unfair when the media lines up behind your opponent doesn't it. Welcome to the Republican world; yet despite this we are feeling pretty confident in a 3rd straight Republican term. When are people going to learn there is nothing Americans hate more than having the debate unfairly framed by those with the microphone.

For all her years of experience, I am struck by HRCs apparent lack of understanding of the primary process. It's not about popular vote, it's not about WHICH of the 50 states delegates you get, it's simply about winning delegates. Then letting the super/automatic delegates pile on. The primary is about party voters expressing their preferences for the nominee--we aren't voting for president yet folks. The impending nomination of BO and the bipolar admirable/delusional tenacity of the HRC campaign could just be the final nail in the Clinton era. The party, independents and disillusioned Republicans will vote for BO in November. The writing is already on the wall for the GOP as the see seats attrite--there is a price to pay for the last four years of exhibiting no leadership as the economy sputters and we have no credible exit strategy for Iraq. The Republican leaders in the House and Senate are as much to blame for allowing the Bush "malaise" to thrive as the White House. Simply stated, BO is the Ronald Reagan for a new generation.

crat3 is a disguised Republican trying to divide the democrats

where is the stampede of super delegates over to Hillary? It's over - she can't even get the media to cover her, other than to make jokes at how the page has turned and she is no longer relevant to this election.

Ignore reality.
I am The Chosen.
I Rolled a Hoop.
I married the Man Who Would Be President.
I Am Very White.
Obama did none of that and he IS BLACK.

So There.

The only message that you can get is if Senator Clinton concedes then the remaining primaries will not happen. The is categorically false. The is all about Clinton's dwindling dream, that is about to fade out.

Where's the substance in Barack.?Outside of rising from a working class background to be president of the Harvard Law Review & then going back to Chicago to help working people organize to defend their rights, going to the state legislature & getting them an earned income tax credit and health care for their children, going to the US Senate & getting the leaders to post their doings where the people could see oh & opposing the Iraq war which has killed so many of our best young people, not much.
Where's the substance in Hillary? Outside of being a suburban factory owner's daughter, a partner in a law firm that defends corporation, being on the board of Walmart, voting for the Iraq war while her husband took millions from some of the same people who gave money to the 9/11 criminals, not much.

Obama vs. Hillary - winner Obama (he's a more influential orator)
Obama vs. Mcain - winner Mcain (he's got more years and experience behind him, and good speeches can only last so long)
Hillary vs. Mcain- winner Hillary (shes got the same experience and better people skills than Mcain)

So the question is, who do the democrats want as the president - Mcain or a democrat?

Why would we care about delegates? It is something created to confuse us and waste money and time.

A President is NOT necessarily a nominee. Simply, you have my vote, Hillary. Because deep down, I know you are the best.

SIMPLE QUESTIONS:
Why would Hillary be bad for US? No reason
Why would Obama be bad for US? Unknown, you don't know him at all.

This race is not about WINNING anything; this race is about our VOTES being PUT UP FOR SALE TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER!!

Our Democratic Nominee will be selected by the person or persons who have the most money to "B U Y" the most delegates!

This country means too much for me to accept that type of an election and, should Hillary lose because of such a travesty of justice , then the Democratic Party can watch as megabunches of registered voters.... many of who have had a lifetime investment in the Democratic Party.... cross the road and sign the Republican
roster.

Hillary should Not take the Vice presidency because she would just be cleaning up Obama's messes,
Country before Party!

Give 'em Hell, Hillary!!!
What ever happened to Democracy?