< Back to Front Page Text size +

Clinton airs ads in South Dakota

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor May 27, 2008 11:03 AM


Trying to defy the odds, Hillary Clinton targets the chattering class once again in a new radio ad urging South Dakota voters to keep her hopes alive.

"In Washington, some people say the presidential primary in South Dakota doesn't much matter. That your voice doesn't really count," the announcer says in the spot. "But you know what? Tuesday, we can show 'em. We can pick a president. After all, just because South Dakota comes last in the primaries doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be heard loud and clear. And we can pick the candidate who'll stand up for us. Hillary Clinton."

Clinton also launched a new TV ad today in South Dakota -- which along with Montana votes next Tuesday to close the Democratic nomination contests -- that highlights her pledge to reduce the federal deficit.

"We borrow money from the Chinese to buy oil from the Saudis," she says at a rally shown in the ad.

"Hillary Clinton will stop spending money America doesn't have," the announcer adds. "She'll end fifty five billion dollars in giveaways to corporate special interests, reduce the deficit and protect Social Security."

Clinton concludes: "I will get us back to fiscal responsibility."

105 comments so far...
  1. "Trying to defy the odds," is the continued cynical dismissal of Sen. Clinton's campaign by a pro-Obama biased media. The pro-Obama biased media have interfered in, undermined, and subverted the Democratic presidential nomination process. The pro-Obama biased media continue to sabotage Sen. Clinton's campaign with impunity. This media tyranny is our democracy's worse enemy.

    Obama cannot acquire the requisite number of pledged delegates to get the presidential nomination. The superdelegates must select the best qualified and strongest candidate to win the general election using their independent judgment with no regard to any "delegate math." This decision calls for the superdelegates to show wisdom, integrity, and courage in honoring their true function. In this regard, they have only one choice for the Democratic presidential nominee: Sen. Clinton.

    Obama's recent superdelegate endorsements, announced daily with fabricated fluff, have clearly repudiated their true role as superdelegates. Disregarding the democratic core value to count every vote, these Obama superdelegates have engaged in a conspiracy with Obama to make a ruthless end run around the nomination process to swipe the nomination from Sen. Clinton. This conduct is putting a united Democratic Party beyond the realm of possibility and taking the Democratic Party down the path to a train wreck in November

    Sen. Clinton must continue her fight for the future of the Democratic Party and America. All rational Democrats need to support her campaign by making frequent contributions at HillaryClinton.com.

    Posted by crat3 May 27, 08 11:30 AM
  1. VERY FUNNY ADVERTISEMENT. Hillary Clinton is promising this

    ""Hillary Clinton will stop spending money America doesn't have," "

    This from a person who is already in USD 30 million debt. Some advertisement

    Posted by deepblue May 27, 08 11:57 AM
  1. Judging by how she has conduct her campaign, and the management of her campaign's financial situation, god help us if she was to have access over the treasury.

    Posted by lori May 27, 08 12:03 PM
  1. Preaching fiscal responsibility when is her campaign 21 million dollars in debt? Strange.

    Posted by Joe Canadian May 27, 08 12:12 PM
  1. Mrs.linton,no disrespect meant, but you must first get your own debts in order. I, for one, do not think you have a right to ask the American people for your vote, when you have both moral and ethical problems. Also before someone cry foul, or sexism, I am a woman, but that does not mean my vote should automatically go to Mrs. Clinton. I leave it to you.

    Posted by We The People May 27, 08 12:13 PM
  1. Fiscal responsibility as demonstrated in her $30,000,000 debt from her campaign. I'm not sure this translates into how she would run our government, but given everything else evidenced so far, I would be reluctant to experiment with her at the helm.

    Posted by David May 27, 08 12:14 PM
  1. How can Hillary Clinton "get us back to fiscal responsibility" when her own campaign is $30M in debt? What would she do to a whole country's finances?
    New York Yankee

    Posted by tswaters May 27, 08 12:15 PM
  1. I find it hilarious (no pun intended) that she claims to restore fiscal responsibility as she continues to fund a campaign that's currently over $20 MILLION in debt, not counting the $10 MILLION she loaned her own campaign.

    Yeah, that's good fiscal policy, that is.

    Posted by dvorak May 27, 08 12:25 PM
  1. She can't even run her own campaign without borrowing money from herself. There is little ground for her to stand on when it comes to fiscal responsibility.

    Posted by AgentC May 27, 08 12:25 PM
  1. Clinton's probably borrowed money to finance an add that says she will stop spending money america does not have.

    Posted by Mirza May 27, 08 12:26 PM
  1. She can't even manage her own campain finances!!!!!

    Posted by Frank May 27, 08 12:28 PM
  1. Pretty ironic since her campaign is currently spending money THEY don't have!
    So much for "fiscal responsibility"..
    Not to mention standing up for average Americans. Her campaign has run up bills with small businesses all across this country during her campaign, and has been stiffing them when it's time to pay the bills.

    Posted by MB May 27, 08 12:29 PM
  1. How can Clinton "get us back to fiscal responsibility" when she can't pay her vendors? Her campaign debt is almost as bad as the US government's.

    Posted by Maggie May 27, 08 12:35 PM
  1. Please don't attack me for this comment... I am an Obama supporter, but I am not trying to be cruel or vitriolic (like some posters from either camp), but you have to admit this is kind of humorous when you think about it.

    Quotes like "Hillary Clinton will stop spending money America doesn't have" and "I will get us back to fiscal responsibility" are slightly humorous when you consider the extreme debt her campaign is in. Now before you all pounce on me, let me say I know that campaign debt doesn't really say anything about her ability to manage the national economy as president... BUT it is just an odd choice to word things in that fashion considering the media focus on her campaign debt. Anyway, hope I didn't offend anyone.

    Posted by Kenny Cramer May 27, 08 12:37 PM
  1. Hillary spends money that she doesn't have and she is deep in debt. How are we to believe that Hillary will not continue her bad spending habits? She is not good with money, therefore I must conclude that she will not be good or careful with my money or the monies of the American people. Say NO to Hillary Clinton.

    Posted by Debmood May 27, 08 12:38 PM
  1. Why is it Clinton supporters always say something like :"Trying to defy the odds," is the continued cynical dismissal of Sen. Clinton's campaign by a pro-Obama biased media".
    They are pro-Obama media when they can count correctly? Clinton is behind Obama in EVERY count. How is it NOT trying to defy the odds?
    I have no beef with her or her campaign... just pointing out a harsh reality you seem to have missed.

    Posted by eric May 27, 08 12:39 PM
  1. Many pundits say "you will run your office or administration like you run your campaign"!

    Mrs. Clinton has made many campaign promises to get votes, that she will probably never be able to keep. Please think very carefully before voting for Mrs. Clinton. We don't need additional deficits!

    Posted by Martha Whitaker May 27, 08 12:40 PM
  1. I believe her because there was fiscal responsibility during the Clinton Administration. We had peace and prosperity way back then. You cannot compare apples with oranges. It's just typical for a running politician to run out of budget esp. if you're opponent keeps on receiving money from unknown sources. I don't trust Obama's financial and Character background at all.

    Posted by neil1785 May 27, 08 12:42 PM
  1. I'm afraid that we would see the same mismanagement of the country's economy that we have seen in the Clinton campaign if Senator Clinton has her way.

    Posted by Kithara May 27, 08 12:42 PM
  1. There is no use to fight this....The nation led by the media has drank the koolaid and will follow this man, whose ego is bigger than any ive seen since bush, right into political nightmare. Why is it that when i ask any of his supporters what his voting record is like they cannot tell me anything? OH yes again the nation has drank the koolaid and is following the medias darling celebrity who has no substance whatsoever. BTW this is the same guy who has never called his own committee to order because he was too busy feeding his ego running for a job he does not have a clue how to preform much less deserve. The man has done NOTHING for america...its all for his ego.

    Posted by Dr K Arenz May 27, 08 12:46 PM
  1. "All rational Democrats need to support her campaign by making frequent contributions at HillaryClinton.com."

    Wow. Strange view of rational... but hey, I guess you're one of those people who sees anyone under 30 as a "Prius-driving, Birkenstock-wearing trust-fund baby" and anyone who doesn't like Hillary Clinton as a "sexist," right? * laugh *

    For years, Democrats have decried the Republican primary process as a "coronation." In the last month, Clinton has consistently observed that if the Democratic primary followed Republican rules, she'd have won the nomination already.

    Sorry, but that's exactly what I DON'T want: a Democratic candidate whose best idea is to emulate the Republican model if it lets her grab and hold onto power.

    Posted by Jamie May 27, 08 12:50 PM
  1. Hilarys South Dakota ad says:
    "We borrow money from the Chinese to buy oil from the Saudis,"
    "Hillary Clinton will stop spending money America doesn't have,"
    "She'll end fifty five billion dollars in giveaways to corporate special interests, reduce the deficit and protect Social Security."
    Clinton concludes: "I will get us back to fiscal responsibility."

    Unfortunately the President has little to say about these matters as they are all controlled by congress which she is a member of. Why hasn't she tried to stop these actions before...her voting record shows that she was not against
    enacting these things but now she, by some divine intervention, will "fix everything."
    Hilary is so good at running things that her campaign had no forward planning
    past February, ran out of money forcing her to lend it $11 million...etc.


    Hilary your 15 minutes are finally over, exit stage left.


    Posted by BOO-HOO May 27, 08 12:52 PM

  1. Is the Lady Clinton in DEBT????She needs to be more fiscally responsible about how she budget her campaign, in which she is unable to do!!!LOL...Now she wants to handle this country''s "fiscal responsibility"???awesome!!!

    Posted by rajah kahn May 27, 08 12:56 PM
  1. Oh for Pete's' sake!

    What an ad, " she'll stop spending money America doesn't have". Here she is, by some reports 30 million, at LEAST 21 million by her own admission IN DEBT.

    Typical Clinton though. Every thing is upside down, inside out, and of course everyone Else's fault. They wouldn't recognise a truth, or a reality, if it smacked them in the head! Sometimes those things are annoying, and get in their way. Almost as bothersome, as accepting responsibility. E-gads.

    The ONLY state her ad will be having success, is in the Clinton family state of denial.

    Personally, I can't wait for June 3rd.

    Posted by Martha May 27, 08 12:59 PM
  1. When Mrs. Clinton cries on T.V. again, manna will fall from heaven to help her pay her campaign debt and restore fiscal sanity to the nation's ailing economy! She is a real joker!

    Posted by John May 27, 08 01:05 PM
  1. I agree with what's already been said. You've got to show fiscal responsibility with your own finances before I trust you to handle our country's. There's nothing "sexism" about that.

    Posted by timmie May 27, 08 01:09 PM
  1. Is crat3 for real?..c'mon now....pretty funny, almost had me there crat!! HAHA...

    Posted by John May 27, 08 01:11 PM
  1. We want Hillary to go on. Only voters' voice count, even thought Dean has tried to shut up some of us in Michigan and Florida. People have voted Hillary more than any other candidates. Please stop the gimmick game of chasing her out of the race, we want let that happen. It's our will, do not blame her. She is staying for us not to let that Black Eagle ruin our country.

    Posted by Nick May 27, 08 01:14 PM
  1. I find this insulting from somebody who thought that the primary will end february 5th. Now that she lost, she wants us to bail her out by saying anything. Denial is in Egypt (The NILE River Lol). This is the NEW USA, inclusive, diverse and caring.
    OBAMA got our vote here in South Dakota.

    Posted by Kevin Johnson May 27, 08 01:16 PM
  1. HRC asked. America answered....

    HILL No!

    Posted by DollySpartan May 27, 08 01:19 PM
  1. Media bias against Hillary? Perhaps now, there is to some degree. But before she stumbled in Iowa, the media was ready to crown Queen Hillary without a fight.
    I remember, I was one of the ones who were constantly emailing the media, asking them to try to avoid giving ALL the attention to Hillary.
    Short story is, she had every advantage and couldn't win.

    Posted by Jim May 27, 08 01:22 PM
  1. i failed to realize early on that early in these elections the Obama camp organized themselves into internet activists/bloggers ready to pounce on and make all kinds of diatribes against Clinton all over the internet. I was taken for a fool by these OBAMA PROPAGANDIST POSING AS INNOCENT BLOGGERS.

    Posted by ces May 27, 08 01:22 PM
  1. It bears repeating: Gosh! What Kool Aid is has she been drinking.....

    "Hillary Clinton will stop spending money America doesn't have," the announcer adds. "She'll end fifty five billion dollars in giveaways to corporate special interests, reduce the deficit and protect Social Security."

    Clinton concludes: "I will get us back to fiscal responsibility." "

    No need to say more.


    Posted by MRS CT May 27, 08 01:25 PM
  1. This is hysterical -- a fiscal responsibility ad from the woman who couldn't run her own campaign with fiscal responsibility. Yet another blundering error in judgement -- get this woman out of Washington and into a nursing home before she hurts herself.

    Posted by Rose May 27, 08 01:28 PM
  1. Hey Hil, buy a powerball ticket and fix everything.-Shrillary is a lying, thuggish Nixonian weasel!

    Posted by Stoploss May 27, 08 01:28 PM
  1. How can Hillary Clinton get America back to fiscal responsibility? She hired a team of loyalists and spendthrifts who squandered her campaign's resources. The Clinton campaign is deeply in debt and has still not paid many of the small vendors who provided goods and services on credit.

    Posted by Christopher Londono May 27, 08 01:30 PM
  1. She is a lost soul at this point. She has no hope of winning this thing and is just wasting our time. I live in NY and I could not stand the fact that this women took residence in my county (Westchester) just to grab an open seat in the senate. I did not vote for than and would not vote for her now. She is a true politician; says what she thinks needs to be heard. She went on the Jay Leno show for petes sake and try to shed an air of humor for the lies she was caught in about the sniper fire. She is a liar and always has been. She is not good for the senate let alone the presidency. Go Obama. and if the party does nominate her i will vote republican just to ensure this lying wanna be of the people does not get my vote; i suggest you all do the same.

    Posted by Louis May 27, 08 01:31 PM
  1. I don't blame Mrs. Clinton. She will continue to fight till somebody throws her off the stage. The only people who can do that are the super-delegates. I have been a democrat all my life and I can not tell you how frustrated I am at the party right now. Obama needs 56 delegates - what are all the super-delegates waiting for? Why are they still undecided? if they want, they can stop all this nonsense right now, and we can move on to the general election. irrespective of who wins the nomination, I think i am going to vote republican, first time in my life. .

    Posted by Sunil May 27, 08 01:33 PM
  1. On looking at the responses, I can't help but note thatafter the first comment, the next thirteen have a very pre- organized feel about them. After that, the later comments, both pro and con, at least have the feeling of some original thought being put into them.

    Posted by norm May 27, 08 01:33 PM
  1. Crat3, how is it that the only way the superdelegates can show wisdom integrity and courage is if they agree with you? You don't offer even one iota of logic in your comments. Obama won. He won states, delegates, and the popular vote. Don't try to sell that nonsense about Clinton and the popular vote -- she won't count the caucus states (I'm sure those states are just thrilled with that idea), and nobody campaigned in Florida and Michigan -- they were name recognition votes. That's why we have campaigns, so that people can make informed choices. Otherwise we could just conduct a popularity poll the year before an election, and that would be our nominee. Obama won, he's the nominee. Get over it and get on with it.

    Posted by Rose May 27, 08 01:34 PM
  1. Hillary has now stretched her imagination beyond limits, with the help of Bill! It is time for our nation to say clearly we have had enough of the Clintons, deviviseness, lying, mistrust, cheating, etc. Why they don't get it is amazung!!!!

    Posted by chet mccabe May 27, 08 01:37 PM
  1. I loved Bill Clinton and think Hillary would have been a strong President too. But, the campaign has not gone her way and the winds of change have propelled Obama to the top of the Democratic ticket for President. It is time for both Hillary and Bill to back off and to unite behind Obama. The news media is not pro nor anti any presidential candidate, so the whiners in both parties need to shut up and just vote for the candidate of their convictions.

    Posted by Tom in Alabama May 27, 08 01:39 PM
  1. I would rather have a real leader in office who, yes- on any given day -could personally pay off her campaign debts herself, rather than someone who's only talent is the ability to enunciate their way into all of your dumb political pants'. Talk is cheap. And then it gets reaaally pricey when you have them leading a country.

    Posted by steve May 27, 08 01:43 PM
  1. Let's borrow money to make an ad that say's we wouldn't borrow money that we don't have. Go Hillary! We are with you all the way to the convention.

    Posted by obama08 May 27, 08 01:49 PM
  1. Each valid ballot will be counted in the general election and this is "democracy protocol" for the general election. So each ballot cast in Florida/Michigan must be counted. And we all know each super-delegates strength will shrink into one ballot in the general election. Thus, it is practical to see the strengths in terms of popular votes not in terms of "super-delegate popular votes".

    Posted by Rabin Deka May 27, 08 01:52 PM
  1. Dang! I read this article and immediatly wanted to comment on the irony of Hillary's pledge to reduce debt all the while racking up her debt...financially responsible? But everyone blogged so much on that point y'all took my fun.

    Oh, well.

    Posted by Fred Thompson May 27, 08 01:52 PM
  1. In her seminal volume “On Death and Dying”, Dr. Elizabeth Kubler-Ross outlined the 5 stages of grief through which an individual must pass in the process of coming to terms with his or her mortality. Those stages are:

    Denial
    Anger
    Bargaining
    Depression
    Acceptance

    Clearly the Clinton campaign and its supporters are entrenched in stage one denial. Nine months ago Senator Clinton was the presumptive nominee and the Democratic front runner in every poll, commentary and article. The standard phrase heard was, “the nomination is hers to lose”. But lose it she has.

    Creating phantom conspiracies in the media or accusing the general public of mass delusion (that one is really a stretch) only serves to demonstrate the depth of the denial. At what point can we expect Sen. Clinton’s faithful to look in the mirror and admit they lost because of a flawed strategy, an erroneous message and a smug, heavy handed, poorly executed campaign in support of an ethically dubious candidate? The public spectacle in store for us as the next 4 stages unfold should be “entertaining”.

    Like any competitive endeavor, if there is to be a winner, then there must also be a loser. There is no shame in having fought hard and lost and no humiliation in failure – IF – the failure is accepted with grace and dignity. This seems an unlikely outcome from the Clinton camp since she’s a “fighter”… yawn.

    Posted by ClaudiaC May 27, 08 02:06 PM
  1. Every day Hillary does not confront reality, and stumbles her way through the remaining days of the primaries, she tarnishes what little reputation the Clintons have left. The majority of the voters are ready for this to be over, and for the Clintons to be removed from the political stage. Primaries are a good way for voters to see the character, wisdom and political skills of presidential candidates. She has failed to earn the nomination. Thank goodness we learned once again what Billary was like before we gave them another 8 years.

    Posted by Jeff in Orlando May 27, 08 02:08 PM
  1. Watching this disastrous political season unfold has been akin to peaking through fingers at a train wreck. I was taught as a teenager that politics was rough, but it's now so deeply engrained with an undercurrent of us vs. them, that you’re a racist if you don‘t support Obama. Why are American's allowing a small upper class of rich people and huge corporations to shove their candidate of choice on us? Are American's blind to the theatrics of using race or gender to drive a wedge between us? How anyone can vote for a young, inexperienced politician who has more baggage than a model flying to Paris astounds me! He delivers a well rehearsed speech, but falters when answering unscripted questions on matters of importance to our security, etc. And to say anyone, specifically White voters, not supporting Obama is racist is insulting and absurdly without merit. It’s not about color, it’s about who is the best candidate for the job. And that is Hillary Clinton.

    Posted by Kelly May 27, 08 02:24 PM
  1. Fl and MI will be heard in November, but as far as the primaries go rules are rules. Both states knew the consequences of defying the DNC directive. The decision won't be overturned, otherwise any state can break the rules knowing that there will be no penalty for doing so.

    ...by the way crat3, WTF????

    Posted by Rich May 27, 08 02:29 PM
  1. "I guess you're one of those people who sees anyone under 30 as a "Prius-driving, Birkenstock-wearing trust-fund baby" - by Jamie

    Hilarious, Jamie! Knocking the older generation might be fun but it often comes back to bite. Birkenstocks have been imported from Germany since the late 60s. We Boomers were progressive before it became cool. Oh, and Barack Obama is a 46 year-old Baby Boomer!

    Posted by Kelly May 27, 08 02:47 PM
  1. Crat3 the propagandist is back, defying the odds and screaming in an utterly futile attempt to be heard, just like Hillary.

    Eeeees over, mon. It's time for Obama.

    Obama.

    And, yes, Obama.

    Game Over. Thank you for playing Pac-Blog.

    Posted by Just the doggone truth May 27, 08 02:51 PM
  1. Ever wonder how the Patriot Act got passed? Seems like anyone who read it would never in a million years vote for it right? Do you know Congress doesn't even READ the laws it passes? There is legislation being introduced in the House and Senate that would stop your freedoms from being trampled in the mud. It's called the Read The Bills Act and it requires each law being passed in Congress to be READ OUT LOUD IN ITS ENTIRETY. Also, the law must be published on the web for 7 days before voting to give we the people time to comment on it. I know everyone's very active politically this year and here's something we can ALL agree on - we don't want Congress sneaking around behind our backs! If you're active politically, please be active in this - go to the link below and let your Congressmen know of your support!

    http://www.downsizedc.org/read_the_laws.shtml

    Posted by Louis Nardozi May 27, 08 03:00 PM
  1. I find it hilarious that she claims to restore fiscal responsibility as she continues to fund a campaign that's currently over $20 MILLION in debt, not counting the $10 MILLION she loaned her own campaign. Her campain does not pay it's bills ontime. And why is it that money she gives to her campain is considered a "loan" but our money is not?
    Billary needs to exit the stage now. If Barack Obama picks her to run as VP then I'll vote GOP for the first time in my life.

    Posted by Nick May 27, 08 03:02 PM
  1. crat3 wrote:

    "Obama's recent superdelegate endorsements, announced daily with fabricated fluff, have clearly repudiated their true role as superdelegates. Disregarding the democratic core value to count every vote, these Obama superdelegates have engaged in a conspiracy with Obama to make a ruthless end run around the nomination process to swipe the nomination from Sen. Clinton. This conduct is putting a united Democratic Party beyond the realm of possibility and taking the Democratic Party down the path to a train wreck in November"

    Well crat3, let's see if we got this right:
    for Hillary Clinton to get the nomination, we need to (1) count every vote, and then (2) have the superdelegates whose states voted for Obama ignore that fact, and go ahead and vote for Clinton - thus disenfranchising their constituencies - some 17 million Obama voters across the country.

    Uhhhh.....count every vote??????????????

    My it is just so inspiring to hear Clinton supporters' noble concerns about
    preserving democracy and the integrity of the electoral process....

    Posted by Paul May 27, 08 03:08 PM
  1. A person who cannot manage her own finances is not entitled to make comments about DEBT.

    Posted by S May 27, 08 03:11 PM
  1. Ive thought alot about this....About Hillary staying in the race.....Helping or Hurting?

    I think she knows that she does not have a chance, but I think she is trying for the 2012 Election, maybe hoping that Obama, if made prez, will not be able to accomplish all that he wants because Bush left the country so bad......so in 2012 she could come accross and make her "i told you so" pitch......maybe

    In either case its good because every state is getting involved and more democrats are signing up......its electrifying and either Obama or Clinton would be better than what we have now, and certainly better than a Bush 3rd term: McCain

    Posted by Oregon4Obama May 27, 08 03:18 PM
  1. Its funny that someone would talk about Obama's ego, when the Hillary Clinton ego is legendary. Her ego got in the way of her passing the universal healthcare bill in 93 when her husband was President AND the Democrats had a majority in both houses. She arrogantly couldnt compromise and it died. How do you explain that Clinton supporters. Oh and give me an example of Obama's ego?

    Florida and Michigan must be heard! We should protest outside Hillary Clinton's offices because she agreed to not have their primaries count! Oh wait. You mean shes an opportunist who only does things when it fits her, and changed her stance when it fitted her? Well get the lady a gun and a shot of whiskey and lets count them votes! Yeahhhhh.

    Im sorry you Hillary Clinton fans think Obama is such a horrible person because he defeated Hillary. But believe me, if she had never gone negative like she did in Nevada and South Carolina, then shed be up for VP. But her becoming a REPUBLICAN during this running process, has made her a political joke.

    So go vote for McCain. Lets ban abortion, lets send your children to war in Iraq and Iran, and lets make food way too expensive to eat by the current republican financial standards. Go white women over 40!

    Posted by Mark Belkin May 27, 08 03:24 PM
  1. I just don't get all these "you drank the koolaid." folks. I didn't get any koolaid. Was this offered on the Obama political website where he outlines dozens of detailed policy positions? Oh, yes, yes, its an obvious and trite condescending remark about some voter's apparent lack of ability to discern about their choice for president. We can argue about issues, policies and approaches, but can we please not second guess how we all come to make political choices. Some folks like Hillary. More power to them. More yet have chosen Obama. Let the winner run for president and lets get behind our candidate in the fall for a change in the direction of the country.

    Posted by Alan May 27, 08 03:24 PM
  1. Hillary's late,as always, complaints about the media are a disgraceful pandering to her fanatical base. When your losing it's only because it's unfair. Every child knows how this goes. When she was the darling back in December (it'll be over by Feb) she loved the media, even in Jan, Feb and March but now that she's getting almost no ink and what ink she's getting is about what she actually says, it's unfair and biased. Sorry, but you can't have it both ways Hillary. Were you cheated out of this election? Absolutely yes. You were cheated by your own presumption, your indignation, your low-road tactics, your pettiness, your pandering and most importantly by your own mouth; but certainly not because you are a woman. You've showed us that there is no gender inequality when it comes to gall, incivilty and nastiness. Soon, there will be no ink about you and no you in the media to complain about. You will have become yesterday's news.

    Posted by Mike B. May 27, 08 03:31 PM
  1. It is disappointing to see Senator Clinton supporters continue to blame Obama and denigrade him because of his support. The constant refrain that he is inexperienced, unfit for the office and merely seeking to satisfy his ego are hardly appropriate comments for someone who has raised over $270 million dollars from mostly average Americans and leads in pledged delegates and popular votes. Thus far, Senator Clinton's claims to lead anything are based on an uncontested primary and a state in which Obama never campaigned.

    The only real difference between Clinton and Obama lies in their leadershiip approaches. One is a top down administrator. I will tell you what I will do and you listen to me. The other is a bottom up administrator, let me hear from you and I will decide the most appropriate direction to take based on what I hear or the concensus view if there is time. The best leaders are typically people who listen and work well with others. The worst are like Bush, who think they know what is best and everyone else can just "shut the H.. up". It's time to look at leadership style and how the people have voted. Constantly repeating that someone is inadequate for the job when the majority of states and people suggest otherwise is patent nonsense.

    Posted by PJW5552 May 27, 08 03:34 PM
  1. Hey steve (post #43);

    I guess HRC will also personally pay to fill your gas tank, pay to send your children to college, pay your mortgage when you go into foreclosure and pay you a salary when your job is shipped overseas.

    Way to go!

    Mark my words: If HRC somehow gets the nomination, this country will be the laughing stock of the world (Bush bought the elections, I guess HRC can too, if she has any money left) and this country will BURN both figuretively and literally.
    If she gets VP spot, from day one, she, Bill and Chelsea will be conspiring to ASSASINATE Obama. She's already said it. Its just too dark for the average decent person to accept. But who ever said HRC is an average decent person.

    Posted by rt May 27, 08 03:45 PM
  1. The sad fact is the democrats are weak in choosing novelty candidate Obama.
    Just another man in a suit selling snake oil. The media and the superdelagates are burying Clinton alive. Come the election campaign the Republicans will expose all the weaknesses the media have so far ignored. Then the opportunity for a constructive change in American policy will have gone and we will have just another man in a suit sellng the same lies to the public and taking the same bribes and handouts from the corporations.
    And nothing will have changed despite what his campaign would have us believe.

    Posted by Red2 May 27, 08 03:57 PM
  1. Wow, looks like the Obamacans are spamming this message board....they're probably all the same person using different names.

    Obama can't win the general election. If you don't see that you haven't studied the history of the Electoral Map. Show me a realistic Electoral Map that has Obama winning and maybe I'll listen a little harder to "change we can believe in" (what a condescending and negative campaign theme by the way).

    Until someone shows me that map, I'm still for Hillary.

    Posted by lbjranch May 27, 08 04:00 PM
  1. Dems in Michigan and Florida had a chance to organize and have your voices heard when your state's house made the choice to move your primaries forward.

    Hillary had a chance to come to your defense at the beginning of the primary.

    Now that your losing , you will to fight to the death and split the party to have a voice now?

    Completely transparrent. Pathetic.

    Posted by Joseph May 27, 08 04:02 PM
  1. She says: We borrow money from the Chinese....."

    She should know. She served on the board of Wal-Mart for six years while they were busting unions right and left and spending millions on Chinese goods.

    Posted by willy May 27, 08 04:13 PM
  1. DON'T BE DUPED AGAIN AMERICA !!!

    IT'S ABOUT ELECTABILITY !!!

    Large numbers of BUSH_McCain Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on with the backing and help of the medical and insurance industry. Under the direction of the George Bush, and Karl Rove vote fraud, and vote manipulation machine. Because they feel Barack Obama would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And they want to stop Hillary Clinton from fixing the HUGE! American, and Global mess they have created. shocking!!! isn't it. Just gotta love those good old draft dodging, silver spoon Texas boys. Not! :-(

    You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don't want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves off of you, and your children's suffering.

    With Hillary Clinton you are almost 100% certain to get quality affordable universal health care for everyone very soon. And you are also certain to see major improvements in the economy for everyone.

    The American people face even worse catastrophes ahead than the ones you are living through now. It will take all of the skills, and experience of Hillary Clinton to pull the American people out of this mess we are in. Fortunately fixing up, and cleaning up others incompetence, immoral degeneracy, and mess is what the Clinton's do very well.

    Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama's. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!

    Just look at Oregon for example. Obama won Oregon by about 70,000 votes. But approximately 79,000 Bush republicans switched party's back in January to vote for Obama in the democratic primary. They are not going to vote for, or support any Democrat in November. Are you DEMOCRATS going to put up with that. Are you that stupid, and weak. The Bush republicans think you are that stupid, and weak.

    As much as 30% of Obama's primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses, and open primaries where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help. Except North Carolina where 35% of the population is African American, and approximately 90% of them block voted for him. African Americans are only approximately 17% of the general population.

    Hillary Clinton has been OUT MANNED! and OUT SPENT! 4 and 5 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton. This is even more phenomenal when you consider she has been also fighting against the George Bush, Karl Rove vote fraud machine in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses. Hillary Clinton is STUNNING!.

    If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. That is crystal clear now. Because all of the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. And the demographics, and experience are completely against him. All of this vote fraud and Bush republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is.

    You will have another McGovern catastrophe where George McGovern lost 49 of 50 states. And was the reason the super-delegates were created to keep that from happening again. Don't let that happen to the party and America again super-delegates. You have the power to prevent it. The only important question now is who can best win in November. And the answer is HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON. That fact is also now crystal clear.

    And YOUNG PEOPLE. DON'T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose. As do African Americans. Support Hillary Clinton. She will do her best for all of you. And she will know how to best get it done on day one.

    The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.

    The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.

    Fortunately the Clinton's have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic, and heroic comebacks of Hillary Clinton’s. Only the Clinton’s are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen. Probably the best there has ever been. :-)

    “This is not a game” (Hillary Clinton)

    Sincerely

    jacksmith... Working Class :-)

    p.s. Cynthia Ruccia - I'm with ya baby. All the way. "Clinton Supporters Count Too."

    Posted by jacksmith May 27, 08 04:25 PM
  1. "Clinton concludes: "I will get us back to fiscal responsibility.""


    What a fine sense of humor she shows. She is aware that it's over, and
    she's looking for a regular gig on SNL.

    No. She thinks she DESERVES to be president. She is living in a strange
    universe where 2+2 =17.

    Isn't it time for all of us to ask a simple, straightforward question:
    Do we want more of Bush policy at home and abroad?

    Posted by Indy Pendent May 27, 08 04:38 PM
  1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT
    If popular votes are so important, then why does the candidate need to get 2025/2210 DELEGATES in order to be the winner?
    And why are super-DELEGATES the ones that can decide the winner?
    Wake-up you people. Are you smarter than a fifth grader, or not?
    Popular votes is just a mirage. The wool pulled over your eyes.
    DELAGETES (and electoral college) is what has, is and will always count.
    Both HRC & BO know this. But HRC will lie to you to get what she wants - POWER.

    FL & MI knew exactly what they were doing and still moved up their primaries.
    What if they had waited and held their primaries when they were supposed to?
    How do you count the possibly hundreds of thousands of people who didn't vote because they were told by the DNC and HRCagreed to it ,that their votes wouldn't be counted?
    Would you have ever imagined that PR is what HRC is depending on to possibly put her over in the popular vote count?
    PR! They can't even vote in the GE. What a mess!
    HRC knew exactly what the DNC ruling meant and she agreed to it. (Because she thought that this primary would be over by February) Now that she's losing, she goes back on her own words.
    She's an opporttunist, a hypocrit, a lier, a closet racist, a cheater (trying to change the rules mid-game) , a victim (of her womanizing husband), has no fiscal or management responsibility (look at how badly she's ran her campaign), a pretender and usurper and possibly a conspirator in an assasination (attempt) of the democratic party presidential fore-runner.

    Do you really want to tell your children that you voted for this woman to be president (or VP)

    This is one for Gerri Farraro: If HRC was not the ex-first lady, say she was just Jane Smith, would we be having this discussing. She'simply riding on the coatail of Bill. That's how she got into the senate. (That's why she didn't divorce him after he repeatedly cheated and humiliated her)

    I wish you people would just wake-up.

    BO isn't perfect, but he's alot better than the baggage we'll be getting with HRC.

    Please use your God-given brains and really think about this one. If not for yourselves, then for your children, because they'll inherit the mess we leave behind due to our egos and biases.

    Posted by rt May 27, 08 04:46 PM
  1. HERE WE GO AGAIN with the ?truth? teller = Hillary Clinton : BOTH
    her & her husband? are again telling us to vote for HER. HILLARY Clinton
    WHEN are U going to stop BULL krapping us people ? you both are
    always misunderstood or WE THE PEOPLE just do not understand what
    you two are up to...... WANNA BET ? U Both R LYING, CHEATING,
    "De-SEAT-FUL" who will NOT STOP AT NOTHING to get what you want....
    Hey number 41 - you are so right ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~~
    Lady - U can"t even take care of your own ------- u got so much -use YOUR
    $$$$$ toget out of debt.........AND so much for " When is SEX not SEX"
    according to the gospel of Bill ??? ANOTHER CHEATER-LYING-Gofer-
    Who CANNOT tell the truth--- GOD WE DON'T NEED THAT TRASH IN
    THE white house , leading this nation. Smoke any weed lately Bill????
    IF YOU CHEAT the Big O somehow and are on the ticket======
    MY VOTE goes to McCain
    72 years young yes SEVENTY-TWO

    Posted by P. Richard May 27, 08 05:10 PM
  1. I'ts unfortunate that Democrates have lost a golden chance to win the white house. Obama winning electoral map is a mathematical improbability. The only scenario Obama can win is if some thing serious happens to McCain like his cancer coming back....

    Posted by John K May 27, 08 05:23 PM
  1. The two most important issues for the American people is the economy and the Iraq war.
    Hillary Clinton, with her campaign in some 20 million dollars in debt, does not seem the right person to steer the economy out of depression.
    Nor does she seem the right person to extricate us out of war. In her trigger-happy, "obliteration" mode, she would probably embroil us in another one.

    Posted by MM May 27, 08 05:37 PM
  1. Barack is gonna help blacks only. This IS a race issue.

    Posted by uh oh May 27, 08 05:43 PM
  1. HRC is a transparent PHONEY trying to pull the wool over the American people; obviously she has no conscience. She's an old glue horse ready for pasture, good riddens!

    If by chance she's gets the nomination; God Save America. I'm moving to Canada.

    Posted by Al May 27, 08 05:47 PM
  1. "Hillary Nation", you guys need to relax.
    Smell the coffee...please

    Posted by ric May 27, 08 05:59 PM
  1. Quote: "With Hillary Clinton you are almost 100% certain to get quality affordable universal health care for everyone very soon. And you are also certain to see major improvements in the economy for everyone."

    LOL. she had her chance and her plans was laughed off the table by her own party.
    If you want to see her in action, take a look at what she did for education when she was in charge in Arkansas. Sales tax up on the poor, no new taxes on corporations, the teachers hate her, and education in Arkansas was at the bottom when she left just as it was when she took over.

    Posted by willy May 27, 08 06:00 PM
  1. If you think Obama is not a liar then you are sadly mistaken he will never win the General Election and the Republicans are giggling about it.His delegate math all comes from Caucuses which really are not the popular vote they mean nothing.Its a great bambbozeled wool over your eyes to think he wins the General No way.He is too crooked.Chicago Politics,Wright,Ayers,Michelle Proud statement.Cant wait till the Michelle Whitey Video comes out.The end and doom for both of them.No Experience.No substance,All rhetoric and no plan.He will loose loose loose.

    Posted by Pat May 27, 08 06:09 PM
  1. After the posts I see today, who wants to bet she'll be pulling this ad fast! Give me a break! Why would she put out such a delusional ad?

    Let me get this right. Hillary, you want me, to vote for you, so that you can mismanage my hard earned money?
    You have fallen very short on your resume for the "Commander in Chief" position.

    Posted by margardner May 27, 08 06:37 PM
  1. It'll be a cold day in Hades when swing states vote for Obama.

    Democrats just never learn. They run the most liberal Senator in Congress. When has running a liberal worked?
    Kerry? NO
    Gore? NO
    Dukakis? NO
    McGovern? NO

    Snap into reality Dems...Clinton's your only shot at getting the White House.

    Posted by Pablo May 27, 08 06:38 PM
  1. Obamtons ...obey! Obey!

    Never mind the the man behind the curtain....

    Oprah is watching!!!

    Her media syndicate is paying for all of this!!!!

    Obey!!!!! Get on the bandwagon...be the same!!!

    Posted by Bald Truth May 27, 08 06:40 PM
  1. To uh oh (post #73)
    Is that based on FACTUAL evidence, or just your gut feeling?

    Posted by RT May 27, 08 06:53 PM
  1. Re: Pablo (Post #79)
    Remember bill Clinton. While running, he the Homosexauls & hollywood's demigod.
    Once in office, he sang a different song.
    How soon people forget

    Posted by RT May 27, 08 06:58 PM
  1. The super delegate kingmakers of the Democratic Party should not find it difficult, using fair rational judgment, to tell Mrs. Clinton that she has lost the contest for the Party's presidential nomination ticket to Barack Obama. That has been very clear to both the Clinton and the Obama camps and all observers since the Clinton camp failed to achieve the big win she hoped for in the big states of Ohio and Texas and with the Obama camp wasting no time in wiping off whatever gains she made in Ohio in the next contests that followed. Obama has thus demonstrated that he is not just good at giving speeches but also at rightly analyzing difficult situations to form the right strategy to employ for achieving even seemingly impossible objectives and at accomplishing unbelievable great tasks and goals.
    So formidable was the nomination task that all the rivals of Mrs. Clinton faced against her perceived inevitability and long time preparation and proven superior campaign organization at the beginning of the nomination contest, with Obama being, perhaps, the least expected to have a chance to win. Obama’s win in Iowa was so unbelievable in Bill Clinton’s ears that he started seeing the whole thing as a “fairy tale”. And when polls started showing Obama overtaking Mrs. Clinton at the next state in the nomination calendar the ex-president started complaining about the time table which the only the Clinton camp was in position to influence than any other candidate when it was being drawn. The sudden realization that Obama’s challenge for the nomination, which was already written off for her, was real and credible was too much for Mrs. Clinton to bear that she publicly burst into tears that led many to cast votes of pity for her, which eventually helped her to win in New Hampshire. From then on the ex-president and the rest of the Clinton camp seemed to have come to realize that she could hardly win playing by the fair rules that was in place at the beginning and which all the contestants approved and agreed to abide by. They started ignoring the rules and complained against them, and challenge and seek to change them unfairly in her favor to help her win.
    Mrs. Clinton started this campaign as the presumed Democratic Party’s nominee with all the advantages that any contestant can ever hope for. She had a huge financial edge with the backing of main donors of the Party. She along with her husband the de facto party leader as the last US president from the Democratic Party still enjoyed overwhelming support from the Party officials and the Party members generally across the country. The Party establishment and the Party apparatuses worked together to support Mrs. Clinton as the choice of the establishment, perhaps to the detriment of the Party. Furthermore, the national and most state polls gave Mrs. Clinton overwhelming lead by very wide margin over all her rivals in the nomination race for the Democratic Party’s nominee. In addition, the eight years in the White House as the First Lady had made her famous nationally and internationally, quite unlike Barack Obama the new comer. Of course it may seem a big disgrace that such an unknown new figure like Barack Obama should emerge out of nowhere to and coming from behind to beat such a presumed nominee with all the advantages with her. That should explain why the Clinton camp is doing everything destroy the image of Obama to render him unelectable as the Party nominee. At this point, Mrs. Clinton has no hope of winning the contest by any fair means, so she got nothing to lose.
    There is indeed a “difference between making speeches and implementing solutions.” This campaign has offered both Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama to prove themselves as achievers. Obama has proved that he can achieve his goal within a non-conducive environment using whatever resources he’s got without bending the rule. Mrs. Clinton has proved that she’s a failure. We now know why she has been failing to achieve even when she has all the chances to succeed well. The Democratic Party would do itself a great injustice if it denies such an achiever like Obama the chance to win the presidency for the Party in November by allowing the Clinton camp to continue with their destructive campaign after knowing that she cannot win by any fair means going but the rule of the game which both campaigns agree to abide with at the beginning of the contest. Obama has proved beyond all reasonable doubt that he can get things done. He has made it impossible for the Party to reject his candidacy to be the Party’s nominee. We should give him the opportunity and all the support he needs to implement the changes he has promised. Mrs. Clinton has had her chances and had failed over and over. Let’s give Mr. Obama the credit he deserves, and not give Mrs. Clinton a credit she deserves not.
    The truth is that Mrs. Clinton already knew that she had lost this nomination contest by alienating the African Americans with her appeal to racial division and racial blackmail. She knows very well that such shameless open appeal to racial prejudice would surely work against her and against the Democratic Party in November should she become the Party’s nominee. She definitely did not hope to win the presidency with just the vote of the “hardworking white Americans” without the support of other races, particularly the African and Latino Americans as well as other ethnic minorities. So, the Party leaders as well as those who are still backing her campaign should see clearly that she’s no longer campaigning to win the presidential nomination, which she knows she has lost, but to destroy the Party and its chances to win in November. Therefore, all those who are interested in the success of the Democratic Party should withdraw their support for Mrs. Clinton’s candidacy NOW, and stop her from her desperate, open and shameless attack against the strong base of the Party, which is its racial and class collisions. Having gone to the extent which she has gone in her negative campaign its obvious that Mrs. Clinton might have crossed the line, beyond which all her hope of ever becoming president is lost FOREVER. Both Hillary and her husband Bill Clinton, the former president, are too clever not to know this.
    Therefore, the Party faithful should not allow themselves to be fooled into thinking Mrs. Clinton is still having any hope of winning the nomination or the presidential election in November. Her only hope for continuing with the campaign now is to ensure that Obama does not win the presidency in November, and perhaps that no African American nor any non-white American is ever allowed to become the Democratic Party’s presidential nominee for the White House. That will definitely destroy the base of the Party as non-whites will no longer see themselves as having equal opportunity with their white counterparts. A win by Obama in November could never happen without the support of the white majority. However such a win would encourage all the minorities as well as the whites to join the Democratic Party as the Party with the best chances to win the presidency. Such a strong collision will ensure the Democratic Party leadership in American politics for decades to come.
    In a boxing match a good referee that knows his job well will stop the match when it is clear that one side has the clear upper hand that the other side cannot possibly match and that continuing the fight is only is likely to result in very serious, or maybe fatal, injury. In their carelessness, or is it blindness, some super delegates may think that it is Obama that is been battered by Clinton in West Virginia and wherever else she may win in the remaining primaries since it had become clear that she could not possibly overtake Obama's lead in pledge delegates and number of states won. Obama has won the contest against the giant Clinton, period. The remaining contest is Clinton against the Democratic Party to stop the Party from crowning the winner, Obama, and to force the Party leaders to give the crown to the loser, Clinton, instead. To do that will mean a fatal blow to the Democratic Party.
    The argument that Clinton supporters will turn to vote for McCain if Clinton was not nominated despite losing the contest to Obama, should be seen as the argument of a loser/spoiler that has nothing to lose if things fall apart. It is most likely that they are Republicans that would vote for McCain anyway, even if Clinton got the nomination. However, they so dread Obama's appeal to the independents that they would prefer Clinton, much more so if that could rip apart the Democratic Party. The Obama camp cannot make such a reckless declaration lest they anger the Clinton Democratic supporters/voters and alienate them, and consequently lose the Presidential election to McCain in November. But let no one fool himself/herself into assuming that Obama’s supporters would be there to vote for Clinton against McCain in November if the Party leaders robbed Obama to give Clinton the nomination. And Clinton, without the votes of Obama’s supporters, cannot be expected to win in November by any right-thinking Democratic Party leader.
    It is time to stop Clinton from behaving as an already elected President who can dictate her will to the Democratic Party leaders in total disregard for the Party rules that she pledged to abide with along with all the other contestants.

    Posted by Abba May 27, 08 07:01 PM
  1. Candidate of Hope and Change. Obama says Hillary will do anything to win. Well what do you call it whern Obama swears he can no sooner denounce Rev. Wright as he could disown his grandmother. Then less then a month later, denounces and repudiates Rev. Wrights because it is interfering with his political aspirations. Is it better when the same candidate says his Uncle was in the military and liberated Auschwitz at a memorial day ceremony. His mother was an only child, and Auschwitz was liberated by the Russians. There are 50 states not 57, and "Hillary should win Kentucky because it is next to Arkansas". (it actually touches Illinois). Sounds like politics as usual to me, with some bad geography and history thrown in.

    Posted by DEE May 27, 08 07:19 PM
  1. It's interesting to read all the name-calling and outright lying by Hillary supporters on this blog. What you don't seem to understand is...OBAMA WON!! IT'S OVER! And OPRAH DID NOT PAY FOR IT! THE PEOPLE VOTED! AND THEY VOTED FOR HIM!! Maybe it's time to look into your own hearts and try to understand why you really reject this man. Maybe I drank the "koolaid" - but you guys are drinking some kind of poison. Please stop spewing it out all over the rest of us.

    Posted by Don't want another Clinton May 27, 08 07:22 PM
  1. Hey 85....thanks...you are giving the election to the Republicans because you can't see past a delegate count..... based on caucuses

    ....to the map of "REALITY"...where NoBama has won 3 (small) democratic states....

    ...and the rest....REPUBLICAN RED, MORON!

    A smarter ticket would have been Clinton first, then Obama in 2012 or 2016....

    #79 IS RIGHT...This party is blind...AGAIN...you can't run the opposite end of the spectrum each time we get a "chance"...

    It has to be a "moderate"...the Republicans "get it" and they'll take it right out of our hands AGAIN...

    SO I HOPE YOUR LOVE FEST WITH NOBAMA WAS WORTH IT ...ROBOT!


    Posted by WAKE UP May 27, 08 08:06 PM
  1. Hill has turned into a joke. She has no class and apparently no shame nor honor. No wonder her and Bill have been able to stay together so long, they both are liars and the truth is not in them. Shame on her and shame on the people who follow her. i sincerely hope they are innocent people duped by her lies and not closet racist who prefer a dishonest, incompetent, sociopath to a qualified candidate who has earned the position but happens to be half Black.

    Posted by chris May 27, 08 08:50 PM
  1. While I think it fair for her to stay in the race, and also fair to call for her to quit I'd sure like to see some of that fiscal responsibility she claims. She has voted for the farm bill HR2419, received an F from the National Taxpayers Union in 2007, in 2006 supported agenda endorsed by American's for Tax Reform 10% of the time in 2006, and on and on. This will be very interesting to see her campaign on a fiscally conservative policy. Many have identified her own spending habits of this campaign which is hardly a ringing endorsement.

    Posted by Jeff May 27, 08 09:14 PM
  1. "'Hillary Clinton will stop spending money America doesn't have,' the announcer adds."

    Which means she won't support gimmicks like a gas tax holiday. Oh, wait...

    Posted by Lee May 27, 08 09:24 PM
  1. Quote: "It'll be a cold day in Hades when swing states vote for Obama."

    Really? Well, it must be cold down there today, because the latest polls show Obama well over McCain in the electoral vote in the general election. That includes a lot of your "swing states". Look it up!!

    Despite seemingly similarity in their performance against McCain, this breakdown shows real differences between Obama and Clinton in the general election. Against Obama, McCain's "solid" and "lean" states only add up to 123, while Obama's add up to 229. Clintons is less.

    Posted by willy May 27, 08 09:26 PM
  1. Some people have waaaay too much time on their hands. Or on blogs........

    Posted by H. Ali Tosis May 27, 08 09:41 PM
  1. Interesting to note that college educated Obamabots do not understand anything about 'investing'. Plus, as long as we talking about finances... Obama spends twice as much as Hillary but she gets better results.

    Posted by Dmitriy May 27, 08 09:56 PM
  1. Hillary Clinton has a health plan, an economic recovery plan, an education plan, a military plan—but, then, so do Barack Obama, John McCain, and millions of Americans, my own mother in law included. Great plans of all sorts can be had on the Internet at a click of the mouse.

    What voters need to bear in mind when they go to the polls is not whether this or that plan is better than another, but whether the candidates possess the political skills to get their plans enacted.

    According to the U.S. Constitution (Article II) the President of the United States is not empowered to unilaterally pass into law any of those great plans that the three presidential candidates are offering the Nation. First he or she must convince Congress to enact and fund the plans. (Article I).

    The most important qualification for a Chief Executive, therefore, is not the ability come up with plans, but to be able to reach across party lines and work with members of Congress and political leaders of all persuasions.

    A good example is Abraham Lincoln. Compared with his opponents in the 1860 presidential race, Lincoln had no preconceived plans to deal with the turmoil then facing the Nation and scarcely any political experience. Four terms in the Illinois House of Representatives and one term in the U.S. House was all. (Less than Obama) What Lincoln had that his highly-experience opponents lacked was the ability to work with Congress and win the support of the best and brightest politicians of the day, Republicans, Democrat and Whigs alike. Half his cabinet was comprised of former political enemies.

    By Lincoln standards, then, it would appear that the highly divisive, confrontational Hillary Clinton would not make a good President. That former officials in her husband’s administration are not endorsing her—Bill Richardson, Dick Morris, Federico Peña, Robert Reich; that so many influential Democrats in Congress are enthusiastically backing Barack Obama—Ted Kenney, John Kerry, Chris Dodd, John Lewis--does not speak well for Hillary’s political and social skills.
    .
    Note that of the 20 bills she managed to get enacted during her eight years in the Senate, 16 were for ceremonial stuff, like naming court houses and post offices, honoring individuals, and congratulating lacrosse teams.

    Then factor in the inevitable meddling of her scandal-tainted husband, her de facto running mate, and a Hillary Clinton administration would invariably come to grief (maybe another impeachment) within its first year.

    Posted by Carlos Navarro May 27, 08 10:10 PM
  1. Barking dogs usually loose the fight. I much prefer the dog that diligently gnaws away at it's bone.

    According to Midel-Eastern news papers Iran favours Barack and Israel favours Hillary, which side would you take? Barack has given it his best shot and he is attractive to the young internet savvy electoral community, but kids, for once listen to your parents, for your own futures sake! I'd rather make the correction NOW and swallow my pride than make a very costly mistake and allow Image to override experience.

    As a New Zealander I would love to see the experience of the likes of Hillary in charge. How come you are all demonising her as you do? The three candidates still standing all are fabulous Americans, and you can all be soooooo grateful for that.

    Best Wishes America

    Bart B

    Posted by Bart Blommaert May 27, 08 10:25 PM
  1. Thanks to the person who laid out what the republicans have done in the "switchover game" since the beginning of the primaries. This has been a concerted effort to beat the Democrats in the general election- inflating the BO. I am astounded that people don't understand that HC is willing to spend her own money to try to save the Democratic Party from what has happened. We should be thanking her for this - not using BO campaign rhetoric to make it look unfiscally responsible. As a CPA, very fiscally responsible and would never vote for anyone other than Hillary's health care plan. It has been shown as the only one that actually will work.

    Posted by Marlene C. May 27, 08 11:07 PM
  1. Her husband created a great economy and I believe she can too. How sad and what a waste if this bright, intelligent, experienced administrater walks away after winning so many major states in the primaries. What a waste of a tremendous and skilled effort!! Please accept the vice presidency if it comes to that, but otherwise you're the only candidate that I enjoy listening to and that is believable.I hope you remain "up front" and in the news for the next four years (at least). .

    Posted by perry ander May 28, 08 12:29 AM
  1. A candidate who advocated for nuclear energy should know first how to clean
    and where to store nuclear waste, Remember 3mile,chernobyl in Russia
    Trojan Nuclear in Washington? This was ask in a town hall meeting in Seattle
    and Obama evaded the question as he ,obviously, does not know the issue of nuclear waste cleaning and storage.

    Posted by pia May 28, 08 12:34 AM
  1. Quote: "Her husband created a great economy and I believe she can too. How sad and what a waste if this bright, intelligent, experienced administrater walks away after winning so many major states in the primaries."

    That is hilarious. The president has nothing to do with the economy except to submit a budget for the approval of congress. The congress was ruled by the republicans who went into power shortly after Bill Clinton was elected and were still there in power when he left. If you want to know what a "bright administrator", (BTW you mis-spelled it) that Hillary Clinton is, take a look at her record with health care in their administration, which was laughed off the table by her own party.
    party.party,herecore

    Posted by billy May 28, 08 10:44 AM
  1. The race is over! Obama has won more contests, more pledged delegates, and more of the popular vote! Michigan and Florida clearly broke the rules and need to be penalized. Although, I do believe both states should be seated at the convention. However,It is important to note that it is not fair to penalize the 48 states who did follow the DNC rules! Furthermore, Hillary clearly agreed to the rules and now wants to change the rules in the middle of the game! The will of the voters is clearly evident by the pledged delegates casted for Obama. Senator Obama is a man with vision, leadership, courage, dignity, honesty, and judgement! He is the only candidate that opposed the Iraq war which is a disaster!

    Posted by taj May 29, 08 12:32 PM
  1. Electability...what a joke.

    Since when did we count hypothetical, in-the-future votes more than real, already cast, votes?

    It's not up to the superdelegates to figure out who may win in six months, if that was their job they should have all cast their "super-votes" for Hillary in December, bc she was the favorite then.

    Democracy is about validating the voices of those who have spoken, not guessing how a people will speak in 6 months.

    Posted by RT May 29, 08 01:00 PM
  1. Hi Everyone!

    I keep track of the election process on a website that uses many respected polls and updates daily. I would love to give you the website address but my post seems to get lost if I do. Try googling "electoral votes"

    Here is the general election electoral vote projection as of May 29.

    H. Clinton -- 327 votes
    McCain -- 194 votes
    Tie -- 17 votes

    Obama -- 266 votes
    McCain -- 248 votes
    Tie -- 24 votes

    Conclusion: Obama is a very risky candidate for the Dems in the general election.

    Posted by youbetcha May 29, 08 03:21 PM
  1. Hi Bart B.

    Hillary is being demonized because:

    theory 1: Those who report on the elections are very misogynistic.

    theory 2: The Republican Party infiltrated the Obama camp to devise a divide and conquer scenario inside of the Democratic Party. The news media being mostly owned by a handful of wealthy Republican supporters happily abetted them.

    theory 3: The Democratic Party has a death wish.

    Posted by youbetcha May 29, 08 03:41 PM
  1. I'm voting for Hillary - the best qualified candidate for president. If teh DNC prevents me from doing so - by cheating on votes - I will change parties and vote republican or independent.

    Posted by Mark May 29, 08 04:13 PM
  1. Hi youbetcha, so you're one of the people who thinks that democracy is about guessing how people are going to vote and deciding the deomcratic nominee based on that instead of how people have actually voted? I wonder how Hillary would have felt about that in New Hampshire. The polls had her down by quite a bit, but she beat even the most optimistic polls. The democratic party has spoken. Allege whatever right-wing conspiracy you like (I thought Hillary's latest suspicion was of a left-wing conspiracy) but it doesn't matter. The process is through.

    Posted by RT May 29, 08 04:59 PM
  1. Since numbers, facts, logic, (expected) judgement seem to have no effect, perhaps this message will get through to her ... (& her supporters) ...!
    .
    -----------------------------------------
    .
    Hillary, sweetie, please wake up ... the dream is over ... wake up sweetie.
    ..
    Yes, you thought marrying Billy and playing 1st lady - and accepting Billy''s philandering - would make everyone love you and want you as their president - but sweetie .. it takes more than that.
    ...
    Please DO NOT SCREW IT UP ANY MORE for the smart, genuine, capable, decent and non-evil women out there who deserve a chance ... for the White House and other positions.
    ....
    The ferocious pursuit of your PERSONAL DREAM has awakened us all to the reality that meanness, greed for power, trickery, viciousness are gender-neutral ... and missed the opportunity to demonstrate that positive attributes are.
    .....
    So, wake up and grow up H ... and take a long (a very, very, very long) vacation!
    .
    -------------------------------
    .
    P.S. Homework Assignment: Ponder whether the citizen apologizers for Clinton are doing it knowingly or are they in the daze experienced by followers of charismatic “strong” leaders?

    Posted by Orion May 29, 08 05:44 PM
add your comment
Required
Required (will not be published)

This blogger might want to review your comment before posting it.

About political intelligence Field reports from Boston Globe reporters and editors covering the 2008 presidential campaign and the national maneuvering of Bay State politicians.

Send your comments to masspolitics@globe.com

archives

browse this blog

by category