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Clinton closing in Oregon polls

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor May 19, 2008 03:57 PM

The latest pre-primary polls suggest that Hillary Clinton has faint hopes of stalling Barack Obama's march to the Democratic nomination.

Obama had been leading by double digits in Oregon, where he expects to win on Tuesday, enabling him to declare victory in the pledged delegate race and perhaps sew up the nomination.

But the latest polls in Oregon show Clinton within striking distance. Obama leads 45 percent to 41 percent with 8 percent undecided and 6 percent refusing a response, according to a Suffolk University survey released this morning. An American Research Group survey puts Obama's lead at 50 percent to 45 percent.

UPDATE: Two other new surveys, however, give Obama a bigger lead in Oregon. Public Policy Polling says he leads Clinton 56 percent to 38 percent, and SurveyUSA says he leads 55 percent to 42 percent.

Obama appears to be confident of victory. Today, he does not plan to campaign in Oregon, instead stumping in Montana, which votes June 3. He has already scheduled a huge outdoor victory rally Tuesday night in Iowa, a battleground state in November and where his victory in the January caucuses propelled him to the front of the pack.

UPDATE: Obama continued focusing on the general election to come, praising Democratic rival Hillary Clinton for running a "magnificent race," but focusing on Republican John McCain.

Obama acknowledged to supporters in Billings, Mont., that some Democrats worry that the party will be divided this fall after a long nomination fight.

"We are not going to be divided," Obama said, pledging that whatever the differences during the primaries, his supporters and Clinton's will be unified in making sure that McCain doesn't win the White House and continue President Bush's policies.

Clinton, on the other hand, continues to lead handily in every poll in Kentucky, which also votes Tuesday. In a Suffolk survey released today, she leads Obama 51 percent to 25 percent, followed by John Edwards with 6 percent, "uncommitted" with 5 percent, while 11 percent were undecided.

But she isn't taking any chances and hopes to win big enough to cut into Obama's lead in the total popular vote, campaigning all day in the Bluegrass State. She plans her primary night rally in Louisville.

UPDATE: She told voters in Kentucky today that the nomination fight is nowhere near over, suggested that Obama is counting his chickens too soon.

The tale of two states voting Tuesday demonstrates again the demographic divide in the Democratic race -- blue-collar voters for Clinton, more affluent and more educated voters for Obama.

“With the nominating contest winding down, it’s unusual -- to say the least -- to have two states’ polls literally poles apart,” David Paleologos, director of Suffolk's Political Research Center, said in a statement. “And I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a disparity in a presidential candidate’s popularity from state to state.”

In Kentucky, Obama's favorability rating was as mixed as in West Virginia, where Clinton won by 41 percentage points last week, with 43 percent of voters viewing him favorably and 43 unfavorably. But in Oregon, 73 percent view him favorably and 15 percent unfavorably.

"Usually when a candidate has a high favorability, it trends high nationally, with limited variations regionally. Here, when you get to states like Kentucky and West Virginia, there's a kind of political inelasticity or unwillingness to replicate Obama's popularity elsewhere," Paleologos said.

254 comments so far...
  1. KEEP GOING HILLARY! Your supporters are right there with you!
    Be strong!

    Posted by Eliz NY May 19, 08 10:33 AM
  1. "political inelasticity"=racism

    Posted by Paul May 19, 08 10:36 AM
  1. way to go Obama

    Posted by Pete May 19, 08 10:37 AM
  1. Clinton leads in KY by 40 points among women. Her blatant, sexist appeal, YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO BE A WOMAN, is working.

    We have one candidate for women and one for persons of color.

    On the other hand, the reason the educated are backing Obama is that he actually supported the restoration of the Constitution, especially habeas corpus, your right to be charged with a crime, since we are neither being invaded nor in an insurrection, which are the requirements for even temporary suspension of habeas corpus, and Obama has solutions based on cooperation, for the long term peace of the world. HRC is not even close on the issues, great campaigner in places with no education though.

    Posted by bruce becker May 19, 08 10:40 AM
  1. Obama speech: 75,000 people

    Clinton speech (With Bill): 1,100

    Choosing the best nominee: Priceless

    Posted by Jason Wertz May 19, 08 10:42 AM
  1. Just because you don't like Obama doesn't make you a racist. HE IS THE RACIST. Haven't you been paying attention?

    Posted by michelle May 19, 08 10:43 AM

  1. May 12, 2008

    Dear Residents of the Great States of Kentucky and Oregon (as well as residents of all other states that have already held their primaries/caucuses and residents of Montana, South Dakota, and Puerto Rico who will vote in early June):

    Because I believe in positive change that starts with "Yes, we HAVE" and "Yes, we WILL" (rather than "Yes, we CAN") AND also because

    I believe that to the extent possible evolutionary development is much more productive for humanity than revolutionary development,

    I am writing to you to let you know of my decision to support HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON for President of our United States of America and also to ask you to consider her candidacy as well.

    I am not either a Democrat or Republican but rather an Independent.

    For me, the individual candidates always take precedence over the political parties.

    To serve a political party at the expense of a specific qualified and worthy candidate would be against my ethics.

    After reviewing the Republican and Democratic candidates I selected one Republican and three Democrats to review further and then narrowed my choice to Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    I am voting for Hillary Rodham Clinton . . .

    NOT because she is a Democrat;

    NOT because she is a woman;

    NOT because she is Anglo-American (or any other ethnic group, for that matter);

    NOT because she is a lawyer by education and experience; and

    NOT because she is married with former President Bill Clinton.

    Rather, I am voting for Hillary Rodham Clinton because:

    (1) I believe in Hillary Rodham Clinton as a person;

    (2) I believe in Hillary Rodham Clinton's platform (see http://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/);

    (3) I believe in Hillary Rodham Clinton's wealth of broad and long-term life and political experience;

    (4) I believe that as among the three viable candidates (Clinton, Obama, McCain) Hillary Rodham Clinton is the BEST candidate to be President of our United States of America; and

    (5) I believe that Hillary Rodham Clinton is the BEST candidate to go up against McCain and WIN!

    While I am willing to consider Obama for future presidential elections, Obama needs much more experience and clearly is NOT ready to be President. And, in all honesty, I am concerned about where Obama really stands as regards racism, whether it be for or against any particular group(s) of peoples. At almost 50 years of age, I have spent my whole life fighting all forms of discrimination, and I want to support a candidate who has a long-term positive record against discrimination - in this regard, I feel strongly confident with Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    One book gives tremendous insight into why Barack Obama is NOT ready to be President of our United States of America: A Bound Man: Why We Are Excited About Obama and Why He Can't Win by Shelby Steele. Steele is a research fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University. He is also the child of a multi-racial marriage.

    Two pertinent quotes in Steele's book are the following ones found at the chapter entitled "Two Women":

    page 54: "But Obama is also the kind of man who can close down the best part of himself to belong to this Black church and, more broadly, to the Black identity. This is the sort of habit that, over time, can leave a person without much of a self."

    page 55: "Strong convictions seem to be an athema to Barack Obama because he is a bound man. He has fit himself into the world by often taking his own experience out of account. If he takes his actual experience into account, he will lose the Black identity - the cultural specificity, the sense of groundedness and belonging - that he has worked so hard to secure. So he simply cannot acknowledge the full truth of his own experience. He is bound against himself."

    Also, at pages 53-54 Steele discusses Obama and Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago.

    I do not ask you to follow me and my decision - that would be unethical on my part.

    Rather, I ask you to consider openly and objectively Hillary Rodham Clinton for President of our United States of America.

    If you decide to support Hillary Rodham Clinton for President please take action now to make a positive difference:

    (1) Support Seating the Florida and Michigan Delegates at the Democratic National Convention in Denver in August 2008

    Go to http://www.hillaryclinton.com/action/flmi/ and send an e-mail reflecting this support.

    (2) Make Phone Calls in Support of Clinton For the Upcoming Primaries:

    Kentucky, Oregon- May 20; Puerto Rico - June 1; Montana, South Dakota - June 3.

    Go to http://tools.hillaryclinton.com/calling/ and start telephoning!

    (3) IF your budget permits, make a financial contribution to Clinton's campaign – no contribution, even $ 1, is too small, and all contributions will make a positive difference!

    Go to https://contribute.hillaryclinton.com/form.html?sc=1 to contribute.

    (4) Recognize that the current debate about whether unpledged delegates (also referred to as superdelegates) should exercise independent judgment in voting for a presidential nominee OR support the candidate that does best in the primaries/caucuses is a debate based upon lack of research, knowledge, and understanding. According to the Democratic National Party's "Delegation Selection Rules for the 2008 Democratic National Convention" at Rule 12J, "Delegates elected to the national convention pledged to a presidential candidate shall in all good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them." In essence, only PLEDGED delegates (and NOT UNPLEDGED delegates) have the obligation to follow the primary/caucus vote. In addition, the term "UNPLEDGED" according to its definition means "unpromised, unengaged, unattached, uncommitted", which is consistent with independent judgment. For more information on this subject, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate .

    (5) Recognize that the current debate about whether Democrat superdelegates should make their decisions as soon as possible and whether Hillary Rodham Clinton should step down from the race as soon as possible (regardless of the fact that there are 5 more primaries/caucuses scheduled between now and June 3rd and the National Democratic Convention is approx. 3.5 months away in late August 2008) is a debate based upon a lack of understanding of and respect for democracy and democratic traditions. One primary feature of a democracy is competitive elections, and it is with this important democratic tradition in mind that Clinton rightfully continues on. For more information on this subject, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy

    In closing, I will be glad if your intellect and heart lead you to support Hillary Rodham Clinton for President. Please feel free to circulate my letter to others and to post it at forums.

    Respectfully submitted and with my best regards,


    A Concerned American Who Values Democracy

    Posted by A Concerned American Who Values Democracy May 19, 08 10:43 AM
  1. Hang it up Hillary... You're hurting the party

    Posted by Liz May 19, 08 10:44 AM
  1. COME ON OREGON/MONTANA/SOUTHDAKOTA, LETS GET OUT AND VOTE FOR HILLARY,
    HER ISSUES ARE SO CLEAN WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO FOR OUR COUNTRY,
    HER HEALTH CARE IS AFFORDABLE AND COVERS EVERYONE OBAMA WILL LEAVE 15, MILLION OUT, JUST CHECK THE FACT CHEC.ORG HER AFFORDABLE COLLAGE, AND HOW SHE WILL DISMESS THE DEEBT COMPETELY, ECONOMY THEY SAID SHE WAS THE BEST ON THAT SUBJECT, WELL OBAMA PICKED UP HER SPEECHES ON THAT AND HELPING THE VETERANS, CLEAN ENERGY, SHE WAS THE FIRST OF THE TWO TO BRING OUT THE SUBSTANCE OF ALL THESE ISSUES, PRE K SCHOOL, FOR YOUNG CHILDREN, END THE WAR, IN IRAQ, OBAMA SAID HE NEVER VOTED FOR THE WAR HE WAS NOT IN THE SENATE TO VOTE, AFTERWARDS HE SUPPORTED THE WAR. EVERYONE KNOW WHERE HILLARY, STANDS ON ALL ISSUES, WHO REALLY KNOWS OBAMA. THE MEDIA HAS PUT OBAMA ON A PEDESTAL
    AND HAS NOT BEEN THAT GOOD TO HILLARY, A COUPLE HAS LIKE MORNING JOE, HE HAS BEEN GREAT. PLEASE LISTEN TO HILLARY AND COMPARE THEIR MESSAGES, SHE WILL WORK HARD FOR ALL OF US. AND FIGHT TO GET THIS COUNTRY BACK ON THE RIGHT TRACK

    Posted by neil1785 May 19, 08 10:44 AM
  1. Let's get this over with PLEASE

    Posted by thinking out loud May 19, 08 10:44 AM
  1. It's ok, we won't need the racist states in November.

    Posted by Josh May 19, 08 10:45 AM
  1. I am a volunteer with Hillary Clinton's campaign in Portland, Oregon. I have been phone calling for her every evening for the last month! Based on my experience talking with people all over Oregon, our primary is going to be close. There is a lot of support for Senator Clinton in Oregon. I have had long conversations with Oregonians who are undecided and they end up deciding to support Clinton. Other volunteers here are having the same experience. Clinton's volunteers are very compassionate and informed people. We speak to people respectfully and they respond to us. Of the people who talk with me, 2 out of 3 are supporting Senator Clinton. One out of 3 is either Republican, Independent (can't vote for a candidate in the OR primary) or is supporting Obama. Clinton's campaign here is at the grass roots. We are all volunteers. We are not paid canvassers or phone callers who do not care. We are passionate about Senator Clinton winning the Democratic nomination. There are a ton of people every night at her Portland HQ and there is a lot of energy. Portland is a young city full of newcomers who follow the trends. They respond to the image of Obama and not yet understand the importance of substance. Nonetheless, there are many in Portland and around Oregon who do care about depth of experience and why that is important. That is what I hear talking to people around the state of Oregon.

    Posted by Michele May 19, 08 10:45 AM
  1. KEEP FIGHTING HILLARY!!! We love you! I CAN NOT believe MOVEON+OBAMA already declared he IS the nominee.... DREAM ON!!! I will not vote for you MOVEON+OBAMA!

    Hillary, your supporters are right here with you too!!!

    Posted by very_mad May 19, 08 10:45 AM
  1. what about the inelasticity of the Hillary haters? Way to be one-sided. Not everyone who votes for Hillary is racist just as not everyone who votes for Obama is sexist.

    Posted by Beth May 19, 08 10:45 AM
  1. Racist creeps in West Virginia and Kentucky are THE REASON our country is in the condition it is today. You people voted for the anti-christ (george bush) not once, but TWICE!

    It's something out of a bad horror movie-- lets get all the redneck idiots we possibly can, and encourage them to vote....many cant even read... let alone know ANYTHING about politics-- but yeah...they should be voting... I say we need to have mandatory IQ testing to be able to vote--- if you don't have a 110 or higher... you shouldn't be allowed to vote...I don't think thats unfair either, because 110 is nothing spectacular, but would demonstrate an ability to comprehend issues.

    Posted by Longhorn Fan May 19, 08 10:45 AM
  1. Did KY miss the memo where John Edwards hasn't been in the race for months?

    Posted by Ryan May 19, 08 10:46 AM
  1. "political inelasticity"=sexist

    Posted by Keane May 19, 08 10:46 AM
  1. How could we NOT expect gender and race to play an enormous role here? But the great news is that they are both there, strong and accepted by the vast majority. This alone is a great victory for America.

    Posted by Alan Glazen May 19, 08 10:47 AM
  1. I wonder how she would heal the party if she actually were able to steal the primary. I hope we don't need to find out.

    Posted by Jon Cox May 19, 08 10:48 AM
  1. KEEP GOING HILLARY! Rip the Democrats to shreds! It's doesn't matter to you! Your personal agenda is all that really counts!

    Posted by Jim May 19, 08 10:48 AM
  1. Go Hillary! I believe in you!! Keep fighting!

    Posted by mia May 19, 08 10:48 AM
  1. GO HILLARY CLINTON!
    We're with you!

    Posted by Kate May 19, 08 10:48 AM
  1. yeah, keep going hillary! you're doing mccain and the republican party a huge favor!!! she should be going........home.

    Posted by daryl May 19, 08 10:49 AM
  1. if the Dems lose this year they should excommunicate Hillary. Her personal political narcissism is the only reason she continues in the race. Drop the "I'm not a quitter" and "it's only because she is a female" arguments and realize that people just don't want her to be the candidate.

    Posted by AGG May 19, 08 10:50 AM
  1. I support Hillary because she supports the right to count the vote in FL and MI, Obama does not! If you add these two states, Hillary is leading in the popular vote. Let the voters decide this nomination NOT the media or the DNC!

    Posted by A.T. May 19, 08 10:50 AM
  1. yeah, obamas arrogance is starting to show to the real americans out there.

    I just watched obama on CNN saying "stay off my wife"
    LOL
    But yet, I have a mailer in my hand from the obama campaign that says "Cindy Mccain is a drug addict, do you want a drug addict as a first lady?"

    LOL
    Thats from obamas campaign. Once again, double standards kick in with obama! LOL

    Posted by obama campaign worker May 19, 08 10:50 AM
  1. go obama hillary sucks she cant even keep her husband happy with what shes got

    Posted by jim May 19, 08 10:50 AM
  1. Starting with the PA primary, the first primary since we learned about Wright, Ayers, heard the 'bitter' comments, saw Obama's poor debate performance, etc., voters are rejecting Obama. It's like Clinton is running against a different candidate, and she has won the delegates and popular vote since then. Superdelegates should take note.

    Posted by Kathy May 19, 08 10:51 AM
  1. I agree Paul, this is PC speak for dumb White people.
    This lifelong Republican sees Juan McInsane as a Republican't, and is backing Obama.

    Who could back a Nixon.....er, Clinton? YUCK!

    Posted by Kev May 19, 08 10:51 AM
  1. We're voting for you, HILLARY!!! My friends and I are young, college educated, white, and working class - we love Obama, but Hillary has our vote. GO HILLARY!!!

    Posted by Mary K May 19, 08 10:51 AM
  1. political inelasticity"=racism...same political inelasticity that exists in SC and NC??? At least the people in Kentucky and PA and OH vote on resumes.....SC and NC vote on skin color only.

    Go Hillary......and if the DNC is foolish enough to nominate Obama then WRITE IN HILLARY CLINTON IN NOVEMBER. The vote will split 3 ways and Hillary will be as likely as McCain to win.....Obama has zero chance of winning the GE.

    Posted by jodi May 19, 08 10:51 AM
  1. "Obama had been leading by double digits in Oregon, where he expects to win on Tuesday, enabling him to declare victory in the pledged delegate race and perhaps sew up the nomination." This is baseless pro-Obama biased media spin.

    Obama's lead has been shaved to single digit based on the latest polls; any claim to "victory" is completely bogus and to "sew up the nomination" is a pipedream.

    This bogus claim to " victory" is simple an Obama ploy to generate pro-Obama biased media spin against Sen. Clinton.

    Obama does not have the requisite number of delegates for the Democratic presidential nomination; he has no presumptive or symbolic lock on the Democratic nomination. The nomination process continues for the remaining primary states to vote their presidential preference and FL and MI votes must be counted. The superdelegates must then select the best qualified candidate to win the general election using their independent judgment with no regard to any "delegate math." Sen. Clinton is the best qualified candidate to defeat McCain; she will be the Democratic presidential nominee.

    Sen. Clinton's campaign continues in her fight for the future of America and all Americans. All rational Democrats need to support her campaign by making frequent contributions at HillaryClinton.com.

    The pro-Obama biased media have interfered in, undermined, and subverted the Democratic presidential nomination process. The pro-Obama biased media continue to sabotage Sen. Clinton's campaign with impunity. This media tyranny is our democracy's worse enemy.


    Posted by crat3 May 19, 08 10:52 AM
  1. Hillary Clinton is the party quest that doesn't get the clue to go home.... all the other quests are gone and you're getting ready to turn in. Please go away!

    Posted by Reality Check May 19, 08 10:52 AM
  1. >> "political inelasticity"=racism
    Wait, you mean Democrats can be racist?! This isn't a national election, just the dems.

    Posted by Ginny May 19, 08 10:52 AM
  1. Hillary, keep going!!

    My prayers are with you. And I believe at the end of the day you'll emerge as a VICTOR.

    But whatever the outcome it may be, YOU'RE ALWAYS MY HERO!!!

    Your courage and tenacity will pay off at the end!!

    Posted by Dennis Tan May 19, 08 10:53 AM
  1. It's time for America to tell the Clinton campaign what it thinks...

    HILL No!

    Posted by DollySpartan May 19, 08 10:53 AM
  1. Obama wants us to kick the tires and look under the hood, but what will we find? The Flinstone Mobile? Yaba Daba Doo? I'd rather have an old muscle car, maybe they're hard on gas, but very dependable. Go Hillary!

    Posted by Denise May 19, 08 10:53 AM
  1. This bitter old white guy, made bitter by eight years of Bush and the divisive tactics of Hillary Clinton, is voting for Obama.

    Posted by ericmiami May 19, 08 10:53 AM
  1. Obama is a faker!!! All the dems had better change quick and hope for Clinton

    GO McCain!!! He will win.

    Posted by Jarrett May 19, 08 10:53 AM
  1. I respect what HRC is doing, but I'm an Obama supporter. If she does manage to make such a turn-around and beat him, I'll definitely vote for her in November! We need to defeat McCain in the general elections! Republicans had their chance in improving our country and they have failed miserably -

    1) gas prices up the roof
    2) recession-like economy
    3) huge companies (oil) getting great tax subsidies/cuts!?!?!
    4) USA deficit worse than ever before
    5) world has no faith/confidence in the USA any longer
    6) more enemies worldwide
    7) indifference towards us citizens in our government offices
    8) government manipulation

    We need to get rid of the Republican control of the White House, whether that's HRC or BO!

    Posted by Luis B May 19, 08 10:53 AM
  1. Why are African Americans referred to as "African Americans" in polling and "Blue collar" is a code word for white people. Is there anyone out there who will just simply admit that racism still exists? I am blue collar but not white. I'm also hard working, just in case like Hillary who referred to the "hard-working white voters," as if African Americans are not hard working, there is anyone else out there that believes that black, blue collar workers are not hard working.

    Posted by Sandi May 19, 08 10:54 AM
  1. 90% black vote = racism

    Posted by ray May 19, 08 10:54 AM
  1. As A European outsider I look at Hilary and I see a woman without a realistic view. The Clintons had their moments, they had their times in the White House; why is a 'desperately seeking Hilary' for votes if she knows she can only bring damage to the Democrates in this stage. Be a real mother for the country, unite and fight together. Now she becomes bitchy and arrogant. Or was this Hilary all the time? Anyway, I would vote for Obama. Salutions from France.

    Posted by ab kuijer May 19, 08 10:54 AM
  1. Political inelasticity equals racism? How small minded are you to reduce everything down to race? It would be the same as saying that Obama supporters are sexist.

    You might want to do some research on Appalachian culture to better understand what is actually at play: a deep seated mistrust of big government. With all of the established politicians jumping to support BO, he's looking less and less an agent of "change" and more and more like the same ole politician.

    Posted by Melanie May 19, 08 10:54 AM
  1. I love Paul's comment, re: "political inelasticity"=racism... Way to call the obvious hifalutin euphemism like it is!

    Posted by John May 19, 08 10:54 AM
  1. i'll be glad when this is all over. Keep running HRC. You need to get those contributions to get out of that 20 million debt you're in. She knows its over, but is still trying to get your money. Please donate to her at hillaryclinton.com. That way she wont have to beg Obama for money.

    Posted by Jean in NYC May 19, 08 10:55 AM
  1. obama for life

    Posted by Karim A Zia May 19, 08 10:55 AM
  1. I came here to say what Paul said... having spent a good deal of time in the Appalachian mountains, I can say without a doubt that there is quite a bit of racism left in those areas of the country. When Hillary says "white working class Americans" she is not talking about white working class Idahoans or Wisconsans, but she is using code words for old-school racist mountain folks. It comes as no surprise to me that Obama has a difficult time winning those voters.

    Setting this fact aside, the bottom line is that once the Dems have unified behind Obama, there will be a lot of former red states that turn blue. I can't wait!

    Posted by Kevin May 19, 08 10:55 AM
  1. Is it possible to dislike someones policies without being a racist or a sexist?
    Flip a coin . Someone has to loose. i hope it's not the American people.

    Posted by wonda May 19, 08 10:56 AM
  1. Perhaps "political inelasticity" is racism, but why is it so pronounced in some places and seemingly non-existent in others? I didn't think racism had such clearly defined geographical borders. There's more there than meets the eye. I think Hilary Clinton has a lot do with that inelasticity. She is filling a void, answering a call, meeting a need. Obama is going to have to address that before the national election. Let's hope Hilary helps.

    Posted by Jim Lewis May 19, 08 10:56 AM
  1. Nice choice between stubborn populist who sacrifice party success to own ego and… how to put it in politically correct way… Some who suddenly discover and condemn that he was subject to racially spinned sermons for over 20 yrs.

    Posted by Sergey May 19, 08 10:56 AM
  1. There's an "unwillingness to replicate Obama's popularity elsewhere" in these states because he's black. But it's not like the Democratic candidate would win Kentucky or West Virginia in the general election anyway. I just wish Hillary would stop pandering to racists and declaring that she should be the nominee because there are racists in these hick, backwater red states. Oh, and Obama had 75,000 people attend a rally in Oregon.

    Posted by Angela May 19, 08 10:56 AM
  1. absolutely correct, paul. i had the great misfortune of living in west virginia for three years, and i can say first-hand that it's not a very positive place, to say the least.

    Posted by debra May 19, 08 10:57 AM
  1. We're 100% behind you all the way to the convention. Hillary is going to be our nominee for President.

    Posted by KC May 19, 08 10:58 AM
  1. So Clinton's main constituents are uneducated, racist, blue collar workers? She must be so proud. There should really be some kind of IQ test that you have to pass in order to vote. Then the Republicans would never win an election.

    Posted by Robin May 19, 08 10:59 AM
  1. Keep going Obama. Its a new begining from the old politics and we wany you to lead the change.

    Posted by Jessica Brooks May 19, 08 10:59 AM
  1. Regarding comment #2 - "political inelasticity"=racism

    I find it frightening that we are about to install another political administration in which a dissenting voice is squelched with accusations of racism.

    Did we learn nothing from the current administration’s fondness for pointing fingers at its critics with accusations of being unpatriotic?

    Posted by Lin May 19, 08 11:01 AM
  1. I can't believe how racist African Americans have been towards Clinton- over 90% of them are voting for Obama. That's racism right?

    Posted by greener May 19, 08 11:01 AM
  1. I guess that I am one of the rare Obama supporters who thinks that the primary should go to mid june. The attention on the democratic primaries is skyrocketing voter turnout in places that never felt like they mattered. Some of these states now have more registered democrats that the total number of registered voters they had in 2006.

    As long as the bickering stays clean, and Hillary gives a DAMN good endorsement when the time comes, I think the extended primary does a lot more good than harm to the democratic party.

    Posted by pierce May 19, 08 11:01 AM
  1. Hillary Clinton will be the first female President of the USA. Know it. Go Hillary.
    Your supporters have your back!

    Posted by Rozanna May 19, 08 11:02 AM
  1. Clinton's Townhall on Friday in Portland was a tour de force, answered all questions in a comprehensive and forward reaching manner. Did not pander and had very good answers. I think her performance is helping a lot of undecided voters that Hillary is simply the best candidate, when you remove the hype and rhetoric.

    Posted by alee21 May 19, 08 11:02 AM
  1. "political inelasticity" could also equal sexism

    Posted by charles May 19, 08 11:03 AM
  1. So Paul... If you are against Obama you must be a racist, right? Isn't that kinda like when GWB kinda implied that if you are against the war, you're unpatriotic? There is a definite 'political inelasticity' within the black vote. Are you saying THEY are also racists? The Obama vote tends to trend along socioeconomic lines. He's viewed as a 'white collar' democrat. Hillary is appealing more to the 'blue collar' democrat. Stop crying about race. It's annoying. Geez... no wonder the Dem party is a mess.

    Posted by Scott May 19, 08 11:03 AM
  1. Obama is exploiting his race by locking the democratic party into the worst possible situation---denying the first African American presidential candidate the nomination by selecting the more qualified and seasoned candidate? They can't do that because the democrats built a large chunk of their coalition on the black vote. If Obama received the kind of media attention Hillary Clinton has had to endure, there would be riots in the ghetto. When did the presidency become the job where no background is required for applicants? If a Fortune 500 company was going under, a junior manager in public relations would not be sent straight to the CEO position. This is exactly what is happening in 2008, where Obama's practically an intern and the company is about to declare bankruptcy. God help us all...

    Posted by Mike May 19, 08 11:04 AM
  1. Go HILLARY! We love Obama, too, but we want CLINTON!!!

    Posted by Mary K May 19, 08 11:04 AM
  1. out spent, media favorite, sexism everywhere but she still holds on and still wins. She is a couragous woman. Everytime she is disrespected all women in this nation are disrespected. Not perfect but capable of leading this country out of war and into a more equitable economy. Power to the middle class - universal health care and if she doesn't get the nominee a write in for me.

    Posted by becky l May 19, 08 11:04 AM
  1. keep up the hard work hillary it will pay off in the end we are with you all the way

    Posted by ann ny May 19, 08 11:05 AM
  1. Does anyone even live in Iowa??? Seriously... Why Iowa?

    He should start trying to mend relations in FL and MI if that is still possible (after fighting against a revote or to count our votes.) But now expects our votes in NOV?

    Without out FL, the largest swing state in the country, he will got win the WH!

    Posted by Tallytowngal May 19, 08 11:06 AM
  1. stay in there HIlary ,i know you can do this. please we dont want a cry baby to run
    our country.why would any one vote for obama.have yall not been listing.he crys about every thing.and this is what yall want for a leader.god help all of us if he wins.we just think we have problems now .wait and see what will happen if he ,s the one.every time some one sayes something there racist,or some one has hurt his fellings ,give us a break go home and cry .get out of the way HILLARY CAN take care of the country.and we will be better offf.
    GO HILLARY.

    Posted by TERRI HILL May 19, 08 11:06 AM
  1. "political inelasticity" = realism

    Posted by Nosmo May 19, 08 11:11 AM
  1. GO HOME, Hillary! Who wants a president elected by uneducated laborers? They don't know what's good for them.

    Let the INTELLIGENT PEOPLE CHOOSE OBAMA and prevail. The world has been lead by idiots for the last 8 years...we need a break.

    Posted by Helen of Truth May 19, 08 11:12 AM
  1. Go Hillary; you are the best candicate for the country. The media is trying to control the process but the voters won't follow along!

    Posted by Patricia A Drolet May 19, 08 11:12 AM
  1. Hillary all the way don't give up! not now we know you the better then that.

    Posted by Pat Corcoran May 19, 08 11:13 AM
  1. When whites vote for Hillary its racist. When blacks overwhelmingly support Obama its acceptable. Evaluate "political elasticity," and see which group is truly racist.

    Posted by Steve, Va. May 19, 08 11:19 AM
  1. Great news. I KNEW Oregon wouldn't fall for
    cheap rockstar dazzle.

    Posted by toby brunswick May 19, 08 11:21 AM
  1. I have been a person that votes for the person I feel will do the best job. Today the only thing that will help senior citizens came from Barack Obama. He said quote " I will do away with the taxes on retired people that are trying to work to pay for living cost. A retired person working and earing $50,000 or less will pay no taxes. This is a big thing for people retired and are having to work. Social Security is just not
    enough. I hope this includes social security tax. I am retired and I still have to pay social tax that will never help me. A bomber.

    Lavelle Williams,
    A white male

    Posted by Lavelle Williams May 19, 08 11:22 AM
  1. After spending a good part of the weekend knocking on doors for Obama, I gained some perspective on voters concerns in Kentucky. Obama will receive far greater support in Kentucky once the Democratic Nominee is decided. Some voters in Kentucky just like Clinton and want to give her their support in the primary regardless of whether she can be Nominated or not. Many of these people will support Obama if he is the Democratic Nominee in the fall. There are others in Kentucky (particularly in the more rural areas, but also in larger cities) who are clearly more concerned with Obama's race, what they consider a possible hidden agenda of Obama and lack of understanding of this candidate in general..

    There is substantial misunderstanding among Kentuckians about Obama derived mostly from here say and even e-mails that have been sent around this state accusing Obama of being a closest Muslim and having various nefarious agendas. One must keep in mind that with less educated voters (which dominate the Kentucky landscape) this type of word of mouth slander and mud-slinging is embraced as fact without questioning its reliability or validity. It is used because it feeds into biases already present among the less educated population in the state and simply takes time to overcome. When the people in the state do not understand a candidate it leaves a vacuum that his opposition tries to fill by encouraging peoples worst fears, their distrust and even hate about what they don't know. After you get a few doors slammed in your face, after you see the looks of anger from potential voters you begin to realize how much damage those individuals who feed those negative attitudes produce and how easily swayed some voters are to vote their fears and prejudices instead of their hopes and aspirations. When people do not even want to talk with you, can’t discuss their views, can’t define their concerns about a politician (other than to repeat the negative garbage they hear) this is not constructive for our democracy, it is destructive. When people are so frightened or so scared to even talk openly about issues they cannot weigh the candidates, their positions or their approaches to the issues. That is precisely the reason for negative campaign tactics. The opposition is afraid their candidate cannot win unless they scare voters, and the voters who fall easiest prey to this tactic are the less educated, blue collar workers who more readily accept the views of this negative slander without questioning its voracity.

    Posted by PJW5552 May 19, 08 11:24 AM
  1. " "political inelasticity"=racism "

    I find this very funny. The southern states with a high black population is heavily weighted to Obama, but for some reason, this is not considered 'racism' by your standards. The fact of the matter is, most people vote for people they can relate to because they don't bother doing the research as to what the nominees represent and stand for. Unfortunately, the most political eduction that most voters get is the trash ads on TV.

    Posted by Keith May 19, 08 11:28 AM
  1. Hillary is the only viable candidate to unite the party. Beyond what everyone else has said here, genderism, sexism is alive and well and promoted by the media. She has met all odds despite the media against her and being outspent in advertising by her opposition. Talk is cheap, and stealing elections is still present with the unseating of 2 states. How dare the DNC go against the Constitution of the US?

    Posted by nancy b May 19, 08 11:29 AM
  1. Hillary Clinton may have a financial incentive to remain in the presidential race for a while. And she has Senator John McCain to thank for it.

    Clinton loaned her struggling campaign $11 million in recent months. A little-known provision of a 2002 campaign- finance law cosponsored by McCain prevents candidates who drop out of the race from raising money after the nominating conventions to repay themselves for personal loans.

    Should Clinton fail to come up with the funds by the Democratic convention in August, she'll be out the $11 million. If she quits the campaign before then, she may find it hard to get people to keep giving cash just so she can retire her debt.

    That may ratchet up pressure on Clinton to cut a deal with rival Barack Obama to help her through his supporters. Obama may oblige since he would love to get her out of the race for the nomination so he could focus on the general election.

    ``Helping to pay off the debt would certainly be a clear signal of Obama's desire to bring the two candidates together,'' said Anthony Corrado, a professor of government at Colby College in Waterville, Maine.

    Obama, 46, is keeping the door open to the possibility of helping pay her debt, which includes more than $10 million in unpaid bills to vendors and consultants -- including strategist Mark Penn, who remains a flash point of criticism for backing a trade deal she opposed.

    Posted by J Smith May 19, 08 11:29 AM
  1. Hillary my prayers are with you and I pray that people will wake up and turn
    this election around. I will never vote for Obama. Come November if I have to choose between him and McCain it will have to be McCain. I can not support a man that has followed his preacher for this long. I do not care what he says he thinks like his preacher or he would have left the church a long time ago. I would have never stayed in his church. KEEP FIGHTING AND I HOPE YOU WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT. I very disapointed in John Edwards.

    Posted by sandra May 19, 08 11:30 AM
  1. Seems like a lot of folks out there add 2 & 2 and come up with 6.......I like Hillary also but the #'s simply aren't there. Time to quit fantasizing?

    Posted by LaVerne L. Oliver May 19, 08 11:30 AM
  1. we love you Hillary!

    Posted by Jennifer McIntyre May 19, 08 11:31 AM
  1. This is the exact same headline that appeared right before North Carolina. The Clintons put out numbers suggesting they are rising in the polls to try to influence the election. Obama just had 75,000 people at a rally, Clinton had only a fraction of that days earlier. The Clintons have hurt the party and should have realized that they were through a month or more ago.

    Posted by Bill May 19, 08 11:31 AM
  1. "political inelasticity"=racism
    Posted by Paul


    Look fool, you are not helping Obama with this shit.

    Posted by Jacob Stewart May 19, 08 11:32 AM
  1. Hillary showed her understanding of World affairs by voting for the war in Iraq
    By definition she is not qualified to be a president based on these simple facts
    She never had the courage to block the Neo Cons and along with most democrats did great harm to this country by their lack of courage and flip flopping stances

    Posted by Descartes May 19, 08 11:32 AM
  1. She's a witch - BURN HER!

    Posted by Taco Pete May 19, 08 11:32 AM
  1. inelasticity = racism. The people of West Virginia and Kentucky should be embarrassed.

    Posted by Samantha May 19, 08 11:33 AM

  1. Hillary Clinton was the strongest and smartest candidate from either party this year.

    She won every debate – she was poised, informed and knowledgeable as Obama stuttered and stammered.

    She won every swing state that democrats must win in November FL, OH and PA.

    She won at least 49% of the popular vote – more if you count FL.

    She looked great – refreshed, attractive, radiant! we should all look so good after 15 months of 16 hour days.

    Strength, substance and style – that’s Hillary Clinton – an American icon!

    Posted by csh May 19, 08 11:35 AM
  1. Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah...
    Let's just get this over with so we can get on with the campaign for the White House. Give me Hillary or Give me Barack. Just don't give me Weathervane McCain.

    Posted by the other jd May 19, 08 11:36 AM
  1. 1988 - Bush
    1992 - Clinton
    1996 - Clinton
    2000 - Bush
    2004 - Bush
    2008 - Clinton?
    2012 - Clinton?
    Is this good for democracy?
    Obama 08

    Posted by rmendo May 19, 08 11:36 AM
  1. Go Hillary !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by Kimberly May 19, 08 11:36 AM
  1. Go Hillary - it is amazing how the media has been so patronizing towards Clinton and bowing down before Obama. What is racist is 90 - 98% blacks voting for Obama and claiming it's not because of RACE. We know that the best candidate for President is Hillary. She has the experience, not only the TALK, she does the WALK. Talk about saying anything to WIN - that is Obama. He is so condescending towards women - but his wife rules his roost, so he takes it out on other women.

    Posted by Ginger May 19, 08 11:37 AM
  1. As an Oregon voter, I have (by mail) proudly cast my primary ballot for the next President of the United States, Barack Obama.

    It comes down to this: When will the Hillary Clinton supporters wake up and smell the coffee and roses and get a reality check?

    When??

    Posted by Oregon voter May 19, 08 11:37 AM
  1. Go HILLARY!!!!
    Keep fighting for our country and against both blatant and subtle sexism.
    Remember Obama is not "entitled" to the nomination.

    Posted by becky, PhD May 19, 08 11:38 AM
  1. The media loves Obama, the media hates Clinton; therefore the media ignores Americans that vote for Hillary. Thanks West Virginia! The media may ignore you but I won't.

    Posted by Ann md May 19, 08 11:38 AM
  1. racism = realism =/ right

    Obama '08 a true leader.

    PS. We pay way more attention that you do, Clinton supporters. we DON"T take our commnets from website. We don't cut and paste. We don't insult or TYPE IN CAPS. We don't need to. Obama leads for us. Hillary divides. she is nothing but another Bush, and her supporters are no different from Bush blind sheep....as evident by the attacks...ego...and strange comment devoid of facts.

    Obama! Just gave hime more money!!!!!

    Posted by Jason May 19, 08 11:38 AM
  1. If Hillary is too stupid to realize it's over for her she's way to stupid to be president. All she is doing is enhancing McCain's chances.

    Posted by Dale Rhoades May 19, 08 11:39 AM
  1. its been over for 3 months...hillary is doing all of this so she can run against mccain in 2012

    Posted by Obvious May 19, 08 11:39 AM
  1. How amazing that Obama will win, so inexperienced, yet so competitive on the biggest stage of all, imagine what he will become! All the facts point to Obama being the next leader of our world, all the feelings in my heart point to Obama being the next leader of our world, I let go of my racist fears, of all my fears and embrace the future with him. I feel compassion for Hillary, hope she finds true success.

    Posted by TruthIsGold May 19, 08 11:41 AM
  1. Haha, even if Hillary starts leading in tomorrows polls, Obama will end up winning by 15% or so in Oregon. Voters in Oregon are actually smart, compared to the other states. I mean who would wanna trust WV if they voted for Bush, TWICE? Enough said.

    Posted by Jack May 19, 08 11:41 AM
  1. LOL...you Clinton support need McCain people to come here to defend you. How sad. GOP is so scared of Obama they need to try and make him look bad too. Keep trying. If you had anything other than RHETORIC, you wouls have dealt those cards, but you don't.

    All I see are the SAME OLD TALKING POINTS....cut and pasted by Hillary supporters from her sites. How PATHETIC. YOu are sill talking about Obama??? Why? If she was Presidential material, she be talking about issues, the election, and leading this nation....like Obama is doing.

    Obama a true leader

    Posted by Jason May 19, 08 11:41 AM
  1. Its sad how many people in some of those states think Obama is a muslim, and or unamerican...

    Posted by gabe May 19, 08 11:41 AM
  1. Come on now people. Obama has it practically in the bag. It's obvious that Hillary is not going to be the nominee. And, honestly, I really wouldn't want someone who would be trying to fix the economy that can't even pay for her own campaign or balance her own checkbook.

    Posted by Trisha H May 19, 08 11:42 AM
  1. Educated individuals prefer Obama, whereas the uneducated prefer Clinton.

    Who chose Bush?

    Who do we want to choose the next president?

    Posted by Paul May 19, 08 11:42 AM
  1. I am a supporter for Hillary Clinton from Pennsylvania. My objectives for blogging in your state are simple. I believe when you open your minds and listen carefully to both candidates, their plans and further keep a watch for who is free of pure political motivation; you will also stand behind Hillary Clinton. She has been a putting herself out on the line for the American people for decades and continues to do so for all Americans and for our children. If you have any questions or doubts, you can read or watch her message to your state at Hillaryclinton.com. If you want unbiased media coverage I also suggest either the BBC American news or the Associated Press and generally those new agencies are offering facts most of the time.
    Thank you for supporting Hillary all the way!

    Posted by Denise Katz May 19, 08 11:43 AM
  1. John Kerry pulled a claimed 60,000 in a Portland Rally at the very same park.

    Images show crowds of similar sizes. Images are also cropped to make the crowds seem infinite.

    Coverage of Hillary is far less flattering, they pick the worst of her and the best of Obama.

    Hillary can do this.

    All Obama will do is raise taxes, and his starry-eyed followers who believe there is a free lunch will be badly burned.

    Posted by Ben May 19, 08 11:46 AM
  1. Obama is the racist.Woe unto the white man if he gets elected President. I live in the deep south and black on white crime is over 90% white on black crime is less than2%. Blacks hate whites,you live in the south and you find out real quick who to watch to keep from getting hurt,robbed,murdered etc.Over 90% of the murders are being commited by blacks on blacks.Aids is the number one killer among blacks.
    divorce and illegitimate children is the highest amongst blacks.
    racial hatred? whatever figure out whats really going on all you I think instead of
    I research and I know,watch out people the revolution or race war may just begin after this election if Obama gets in power.
    Think I'm advocating a revolution or race war? No I am not,but what the government fails to see is all power is inherent in the people and they have a right to overthrow the government if they deem it so. What you need to see is all power is inherent in the people and when the people dicide to excersise it look out.

    Posted by people unite to make truth the power May 19, 08 11:48 AM
  1. Idont understand how the bullet ducker is making it this far.If the commander in chief needs to have ducked a bullet before, then Hillary you are my choice.If only you actually did duck .But if wisdom and decisiveness is someting to go by ,Obama takes my vote.Concentrating on the less educated who can easily swallow your lies didnt seem to work.Hillary is out

    Posted by jotham james May 19, 08 11:48 AM
  1. GO OBAMA!!!! Please don't let these unintelligent individuals keep you from making the change that America needs right now! Everyone has their opinion, but I don't feel that Clinton has experience just because she was first lady. Since when did being the first lady of the white house give you experience!

    When she was in the white house we never really heard anything about her, now since she is running for President she has acquired all of this knowledge and done all these great things! Where did it come from!

    CLINTON has been caught in lies, her and her husband still owe people money from when BILL was in office, she has ran a dirty campaign and TOO EMOTIONAL!!!!! I don't want to hear her CRYING when that phone rings at 3AM!!! We need someone that is going to take charge immediately!!!

    OBAMA clearly defines what this country needs....CHANGE!!! We have already had CLINTONS in office before and they did a decent job, so let someone NEW step up to the plate and make even more changes in America!

    OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA!!!!!!!!

    Hang in there! Your supports are here for you no matter how the Clinton supporters try to dominate!

    Posted by DM May 19, 08 11:48 AM
  1. Alarming! Political Analysis say Clinton has a better chance to beat McCain so why
    is the party voting for someone who will have problems beating Mccain. Something very strange is in play.

    Posted by ra May 19, 08 11:48 AM
  1. Ha ha. Hillary funny. Hillary trick. Say bad sniper shoot boom boom. She run. She experience for president. Funny funny Hillary! Me like smart Hillary. Me like her she woman and clever. No sniper. Funny funny trick! Me want beer with Hillary. Shoot gun with Hillary. Ha ha. No sniper. Bomb Iran them bad. She say attack Irak. Clever and smart. Me vote Hillary. Want beer with her.

    Posted by Dave Minet May 19, 08 11:48 AM
  1. Longhorn fan,

    The "racist creeps" in WV and KY that voted for Clinton are democrats, not republicans as you attempt to paint them. Set down your hatred of Republicans for one minute and try to act educated.

    Posted by Tom May 19, 08 11:49 AM
  1. Let's make one thing clear:
    Blacks vote for Barack in mass for the one and only reason that he is black...That is racist!
    Whites are divided between Hillary and Barack according to many different issues.

    In the early primaries, before we knew who Barack Hussein Obama is, many Hillary-haters voted for Barack; now we know about Barack's involvement with extremist groups that hate America.

    The last few primaries are showing that non-black americans have serious concerns about Barack's intentions for being President of the United States of America and can not put their trust or their vote on him and instead they are voting for Hillary, who now looks like a saint. The die-hard anti-Hillary voters are choosing to vote for John Edwards.

    In the final analysis, we now know that Barack Hussein Obama is unelectable if he becomes the democratic nominee in the general election and many democrats will be forced to vote for the republic nominee: John McCain, a true patriotic american that loves his country in his own conservative way.

    Hillary Clinton or else.......
    John McCain

    Posted by Manolete May 19, 08 11:49 AM
  1. Luis B, Let me remind you that most of those things you are mentioning are direct result of the democratic's poor obligation to the well being of the United States of America. Sure the Bush administration might not have been the best but we have checks and balances for a reason.

    Posted by Joe May 19, 08 11:50 AM
  1. The person most qualified should be the nominee, regardless.
    That person is Hillary Clinton.

    Posted by Jill May 19, 08 11:52 AM
  1. Anyone who is fron New York State knows that Hillary is a selfless do gooder who visits upsate NY frequently and is a champion for all New Yorkers. She will do the same for the country.

    What has Obama done or accomplished other then to have a rock star rally? His rock star appeal is so creepy to me.

    Do we really want Obama to have tea and cookies with the Iranian President? Give me a break.Go Hillary!! She is the one that rocks!

    Go Hillary!!!


    Go Hillary. You are the one that rocks!

    Posted by Susan May 19, 08 11:52 AM
  1. The tide has turned, Clinton will have the popular vote win and momentum. What will the Super D's do?

    Posted by massmoderatejoe May 19, 08 11:52 AM
  1. It is sad to see someone who has ran a respectable campaign be subjected to these false acquisations. Obama's campaign has been as clean as u can be but people want to suggest he played this or that card. It is unbelievable the made up excuses people will come up with to rationalize why they wont vote for Obama. In the same breath, they say they would vote for Hillary. Her campaign has been anything but classy but I wouldve still voted for her had she won. There is something more than Barack iis this and that because those are all lies. I wish people were honest about how they can vote for someone who ran a campaign that was divisive but cant vote for Obama who tried to bring everyone together. He couldve taken the same shots she took at him but he kept his integrity.

    Posted by What's the real reason?? May 19, 08 11:53 AM
  1. Obama's policies are similar to
    Hillary's because he stole most of them from her. He is unable to talk in-depth about any of them as proven at the 4 debates he had with Hillary. I have no faith or confidence in his ability to get the job done. McCain, on the other hand was courted by John Kerry to run with him as vice president. I have researched McCain, and why I don't agree with all of his views, I am far more comfortable with him as POTUS than I am with Obama, a man with more questions than answers. I also think Obama is racist and ruthless, with more leanings to Farrakahn than MLK. He leaves me cold.

    Posted by neil1785 May 19, 08 11:53 AM
  1. Come on Oregon!!! We are counting on you to support Hillary!!! You can turn this race around in her favor. Hillary is the BEST candidate for choice. Just look at how she has performed in this race. The woman is absolutely AMAZING and I have more RESPECT for her than ever. Obama will not win in the general election. The Republicans will devour him with his lack of experience and ties to Wright. They will also paint him as an ultra liberal who will raise taxes and pander to special interests. Please ...Please vote for Hillary Clinton!! She is Tried, True and Blue!

    Posted by Paul May 19, 08 11:54 AM
  1. I've noticed several comments about Obama being arrogant. I am wondering how blind people want to be, heh heh. Dear old hillary has launched the biggest arrogant campaign I ever remember seeing. Between mud slinging, and hard headed "I can't believe the writing on the wall" lately, I find it hard to believe that anyone actually wants to vote for her. Oh well, the results and current polls show rather clearly where the real boneheads reside in this country, heh heh.

    Posted by Mike May 19, 08 11:54 AM
  1. Well, after I read "A Concerned American Who Values" comment, earlier in this blog, I believe I have the pleasure of addressing Hillary herself. So, Ms. Clinton, HANG IT UP!!!

    No-one cares if you are a woman, you are not as "good" a person as Obama and people are really ready for someone "good" in the White House who can restore the constitution, the dignity of America, and EVOLVE the political landscape.

    Posted by For "Goodness Sake"! May 19, 08 11:55 AM
  1. If only smart, educated people were allowed to vote, neither Democrats nor Republicans would ever win an election.

    This isn't about racism or minor cosmetic details like which candidate has a better plan for forcing government-controlled and -mandated health care down your throat.

    This is about brainwashing the public into believing that you have to vote for either a Republican or a Democrat. That there's actually a meaningful difference between those two choices.

    Convincing people that it doesn't matter that all 3 candidates have a history of lying, cheating, and ignoring the Constitution.

    What's the worst thing that's wrong with politics in America? The political parties. Let's break their monopoly on which candidates we get to choose.

    Posted by James May 19, 08 11:56 AM
  1. I am a black male supporting HRC, am I a racist too? I have been called a "traitor" by some members of my black community. Let's call a spade, a spade. Majority of blacks are voting for Obama because he is black. Nothing wrong with that but don't accuse white lower class Americans for being racists because they identify more with HRC than with Obama. By the way, I have a colleg degree from an Ivy league university, so I am educated and have a good job

    Posted by Shonster May 19, 08 11:57 AM
  1. If Hillary supporters follow through with their threat to vote for McCain and/or actively campaign against Obama, this might well be the first time that Democrats deliberately defeated their own candidate. In that event, I suspect that Clinton's political career is over. She would never get the kind of high level party support she once had (and lost) to make another run in 2012 or any other year.

    Posted by windrider May 19, 08 11:58 AM
  1. I am looking to elect a WORLD LEADER; Hillary is the only one running with those creditials.

    Posted by Robyn May 19, 08 11:58 AM
  1. Why we should'nt be voting for OBAMA. These 2 reasons speak a lot of his Integrity, Judgement and Core Knowledge of our economic issues aside from Wright, Bitter Comments, Rezko, Ayers, Nafta and Iraq Troop Withdrawal Hypocrycies, etc.:

    Obama Helped Supporters Get Millions in Illinois State Business http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/comments?type=story&id=4861699

    OBAMA WAS WRONG ON GAS TAX. HE IS STUPID ON APPLIED ECONOMICS.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/blogBurst/politics?type=politicsNews&w1=B7ovpm21IaDoL40ZFnNfGe&w2=B7tmRCRJt2YFzDsa7MJ1CblL&src=blogBurst_politicsNews&bbPostId=BCPU7bksptwDCz3q7RHPh1SBUAzSrY29vwGiB3iLrNpLtd9D&bbParentWidgetId=B94DflL2bLsuzDPLZYiSAqaT

    Posted by neil1785 May 19, 08 12:00 PM
  1. Astrology Prediction: President Hillary ClintonYear of the RAT prediction (Chinese Astrology) Hilary Clinton will be the next US President. When she sees a rat, she will scream with tears in her eyes. Women will give her their votes because they also scream when they see a rat. Men will also give her their votes because they want to protect the fair sex If she doesn't get the Nomination, she should run Independent and she will win the White House. People WAKE UP! Women, I urge you to gather up with your husbands to rally behind Hillary Clinton. She's the REAL HOPE that America needs to bring about REAL CHANGE towards peace and prosperity. She's the only qualified candidate that can bring back the glory of the 90's.

    Posted by neil1785 May 19, 08 12:01 PM
  1. It is so gratifying to see such an outpouring of positive sentiments about Hillary Clinton. With an Obama Nomination seeming more likely, I have considered more and more the attributes of McCain. I never thought that I would say that, since I am a lifelong Democrat, but I have very strong reservations about Obama's judgement, experience, and propensity to play the race card to discredit legitimate opposition and discussion.

    What the media have done during this election cycle is really scary. What ever happened to just reporting the news. The Fourth Estate is certainly termite ridden and is further crippling our America with its arrogance and biased new reporting.

    The lady in the pants suit is singing America's song. I hope that the American people have sense enough to hear that song before it is too late.

    Posted by Shirley May 19, 08 12:02 PM
  1. To: Possible Democratic Party of America Presidential nominee & some say next
    Commander-and-Chief of the United States & Moral Leader of the Western World.
    April 21, 2008
    Dear Senator Obama,
    My name is Leon Weinstein. I immigrated to the United States in 1986, and since I became a citizen, I was voting either republican or democrat, depending on issues and personalities. In fiscal and international areas I am conservative, on many social issues I am a liberal. I am pro-choice, pro-legalization of marihuana, pro-amnesty for illegal emigrants (with however a good solid wall constructed to regulate this issue in the future), pro-staying in Iraq until the situation stabilized, pro-getting our hundred billion dollars investment in Iraq back from sales of Iraqi oil, and with a strong stance against Muslim extremists and other aggressive countries and organizations. I would also want to disassemble the United Nations, this joke of a forum where human rights committee members are Iran & Syria .
    I found some surprising and troubling words in your books and speeches, and found a profound luck of experience that you are proposing to substitute with judgment. You are saying that you have “good judgment” and this statement is based on one quote regarding war in Iraq . The truth, of course, is that you were not in the US senate at that time and didn’t have an access to the intelligence they had (you yourself said it several times prior to the Presidential race). But OK, let’s play by your rules and examine your judgment on other issues and situations. Below is an account of my findings regarding your words, actions and judgments.
    Let me start with a little historical observation. My great grandparents were Jewish and lived in a small village, with no legal right to move to a larger city, being prohibited to enter Universities, denied elementary human rights and frequently being subjected to pogroms. They were killed, humiliated and raped. This was occurring so often that my ancestors decided that we will call our children’s race by their mother’s. Thousands upon thousands of those children of rape were proudly calling themselves Jews, and joined their brothers and sisters in their faith and destiny. It was very easy to blend into a non-Jewish environment and abandon your race and fate. Some did, most stay. Let me honestly say to you that the very first thing that struck me in your book DREAMS OF MY FATHER were words: “I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race”.
    As you may know, in a Jewish tradition a boy becomes a man at age 13. This is the age we Jews believe that a person can’t hide any more behind his parents, his ignorance or age, has to start choosing his path in this world and has to answer for his own words and actions. This is another quote from your book: “I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites”. You were not ready to stood up for people who raised you, fed you, schooled you and loved you. Those people where “whites”. I am white too. Will you be ready to stand by me if you are our next President?
    Every year about one million people legally immigrate to the US . Another million coming every year as illegal immigrants. They work, build their nests and stay here. There are millions of others who would give anything to be able to come and stay in America . When I was receiving my citizenship, the ceremony was conducted in a huge hall with some five thousand emigrants receiving their citizenship at the same time. I remember those five thousand people singing the American hymn and crying. They came from different countries and they all remembered how they lived over there. They had tears of joy in their eyes. Millions of people who came here as emigrants (believe me emigration is a very painful and difficult process) are grateful and love the same country your wife, your pastor and your friends hate so much. Did you do anything to stop this wave of hate against your mother’s race? Not when you were 12 or 13, but when you were 25… 35… 40? I have a feel that you do not know how lucky and privileged you are, how blessed your children and your wife are. I wanted to tell you that every time my friends, emigrants from Russia, Ukraine, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia celebrating any (ANY!) holiday, they raise their first toast for this great country. I know you will not believe it, but “God bless America !” we say, and we mean it.
    In my old country we had a saying “tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are”. Obviously you do not agree with this millennium-old wisdom. OK, you do not want to be judged by association with your friends. Let’s then see what’s going on in your own home. This is what your wife said: “…for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country!” and “ America … is a mean country”. Really? Is that why so many people come here and want to raise their children and grandchildren here? Because America is a mean country? Because there is nothing to be proud of here?
    I was told that this is your wife’s words, not yours. I was told that you do not feel or think like you wife does. I understand, I argue with my wife a lot. But if this is true, why didn’t you argue with her in front of all of us? You are in the spot light, it is easy to do. Why didn’t you say that you do not share those views, that you are proud of your country, that you love your country, that you teach your children to be proud of this wonderful country of ours, and that there is no country better then this one in the entire world!
    I am sure you are a busy man and you do not have much time for your kids during weekdays. And that Sundays are your great opportunity to communicate those thoughts to your wonderful daughters. Did you communicate those thoughts to your daughters? Or you take them Sunday after Sunday, month after month, year after year to sermons by Jeremiah Wright, filled with venom and hate?
    As a mater of fact I personally do not believe that you never heard your pastor and mentor saying that AIDS were created by Americans to wipe out all Africans, or that Christ is black, or that America is a KKK country. This was on CDs and DVDs that were distributed by your church. I have heard you donated large sums of money to this church.
    What else do I know about you? During student years you felt close to radicals and Marxists. It is perfectly OK at certain age to think that things can be easily and radically changed. Winston Churchill once said (or someone else equally smart) that if at the age twenty you are not a socialist, then you do not have heart. But if at age forty you still a socialist, you do not have brain. Are you still under a spell of Che Gevaras, Karl Marxes and Leo Trotskis? In Chicago you joined this America bashing church. Then you went to ask for political support of the leader of Weather Underground. And got it. And became friends with him. So you probably did or said something that this guy who bombed fellow Americans liked. What did you do or say that he liked so much?
    Then you were elected to the Illinois Senate. You were present but didn’t want to express your opinion on some 129 subjects during your time in the state senate. What were the subjects? May be they were unimportant? One of them was an attempt to restrict the location of pornographic video stores & strip clubs within 1,000 feet of schools, churches and kindergartens. You refused to vote on this one. You were the only senator to be “present” but not expressing opinion on a bill that required teaching “respect for others” at schools. You voted NO on a bill that would require prisoners to pay court costs for frivolous lawsuits against the state. You were the ONLY vote in the Illinois Senate against prohibiting softening prison terms for sex offenders if they behaved well while in the prison. You voted NO on a bill requiring school boards to install software on public computers accessible to minors to block sexually explicit material. Why would you want the school age kids be able to watch porno on school computers? You voted YES to allow the purchase of hypodermic needles from pharmacies without a prescription.
    Let’s also take a look on how you voted on fiscal issues. When tough was going tougher and tougher in your state, you supported … raising taxes. Not trimming expenses, but raising taxes. The state needed money and it was so simple to take them from the hard working people. You supported raising of more than 300 taxes and fees on businesses in 2004 to help solve a budget deficit. I will let your constituency to guess what you would do as a President every time we have fiscal problems in the US .
    But may be you are very trustworthy person? May be we shall rock solid believe in every word you say? Let’s examine this as well. Let’s call this part of my letter “Obama said”:
    Obama said in a speech in a church in Selma ( Alabama ) that when John Kennedy offered all suffering people in the world to start believing in their own powers and come to study in the US , his grandfather in Africa heard it and sent Barack’s father to study in the US . When his father came (with the help of the air-bridge that was organized by JFK), he met his future bride to be, Barack’s white mother, on one of the civil rights meetings, actually on the historical civil rights march from Selma to Montgomery.
    Hmmm: (a) March from Selma to Montgomery started on Match 7, 1965. Barack Obama was born in August 1961, four years earlier, (b) In order to be Barack’s father, the Obama senior came to America the latest in November of 1960, and at that time America’s president was republican Dwight Eisenhower (not democrat JFK). Interesting.
    Obama said that he would not tolerate power brokers and lobbyists in Washington . He calls himself a fighter against corruption and large corporate influence on the policymakers.
    Hmmm: At least three of his main campaign advisors registered as lobbyists for British Petroleum, Lockheed Martin and Wall-Mart.
    Obama said that he would clean Washington and the politics from special interests. When asked about his relations to a shady businessman Tony Resco (an alleged Chicago mobster now being sued in Chicago ), Obama said that he hardy knew the guy. Then he said that he knew him, but never took… then he said that he took, but not a lot… and immediately returned… even more then took… Sounds like Bill Clinton, right?
    Hmmm: In June 2005 Obama family purchased a 2 million house in Chicago . On the same day, Tony Resco’s wife purchased an adjacent lot and immediately sold part of it to Michele Obama, Barack’s wife. The remaining part of the lot remained empty and the Obama family conveniently uses it “temporarily” as their backyard. The picture seen on the Google Earth shows that from the air it is now one property with no boundaries separating the two lots. On top of this “small token” of several hundred thousand, Tony was one of the main Obama’s financial supporters and gave him over $150,000 in donations. Hardly a person whom Obama hardly knew. But the biggest question is – what Obama was paid for? What services he performed to this alleged Mafiosi that were worth purchasing a property and donating so much money to the Illinois senator?
    Obama said that tax burden in recent years became lighter for reach (Bush tax cuts help rich people to pay less) and heavier of poor.
    Hmmm: According to the Congressional Budget Office and the Census Bureau information, the top 1% earners pay now 31.25% of the tax burden (up from 27.7%) and poor pay now 4.3% (down from 9.1%).
    Obama said that the US defense spendings are soaring through the roof, that they are historically high under Bush administration & it is a terrible and unprecedented burden on the US population.
    Hmmm: Defense spending, even with the war in Iraq cost factored in, is well below their historical average. Currently we are spending less then 4% of the gross domestic product (GDP). During cold war we spent 6.2% of the GDP, and at the height of Vietnam War we spent 9.5% of GDP.
    Dear Senator Obama, you probably a very good hearted man. Not very honest, although. Che Guevara was a good man as well. Leon Trotsky was a very very good man. Mao Tze-Tung was probably a good man. I am sure many people think that Fidel Castro and Hugo Chávez are good man. Those are very good man… but not for us. We need a good man with the clearly American values, with an ability to defend our nation against all attacks (as Bush did as a mater of fact), with an ability to reach across the aisle and unite the nation. We need one that doesn’t lie to us. Your autobiographical "Dreams From My Father" is not a story of reaching across the isle but of developing an African identity. Where is our dream of the melting pot? Instead of White Supremacy that I sincerely hope is already in the past, we are now facing Black Supremacy? Black Values? What the hell is that? Why simply not American values?
    Do you know who said this: "There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost“. Your wife said that. What did you do or said in public to counter this wonderful pledge of hers?
    There is one more issue I would want to raise in my letter to you:
    In 2003 you said according to The Boston Globe the following words: “The United States had an absolute obligation to remain in Iraq long enough to make it a success”. You stated that: “… failure of the Iraqi state would be a disaster and would be a betrayal of the promise that we made to the Iraqi people, and it would be hugely destabilizing from a national security perspective".
    In 2004 in your interview to The New York Times you said: “I'm always careful to say that I was not in the Senate, so perhaps the reason I thought [the war] was such a bad idea was that I didn't have the benefit of U.S. intelligence,"
    In the same 2004 in an interview to the Chicago Tribune you said: "… here's not that much difference between my position [on the war] and George Bush's position at this stage."
    And again in the same 2004 on the Charlie Rose Show, when Charlie asked you if you would have voted against the Iraq War resolution had you been in Congress, your answer was already a simple, "Yes." Hmmm?
    On November 2005 you made a speech and called for a gradual withdrawal of forces. You said: "Notice that I say ‘reduce’, and not 'fully withdraw'”.
    Today, you vow to "immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq."
    How easy you turn your back on something you proclaimed as an "absolute obligation". I clearly remember that you made similar promises regarding the safety and security of Israel . How long will those promises last? Until January 2009? No wonder Hamas want’s you to become America ’s next president. And what other promises you are not intending to keep? In strict adherence to your policy of double-talk, your top foreign policy adviser Samantha Power admitted in an interview that a President Obama may very well not keep the commitments regarding withdrawing from Iraq made by Senator Obama while campaigning.
    Let’s add to that when you called for renegotiation of the North American Free Trade Agreement, your key economic adviser Austin Goolsbee was reported to have told the Canadians that this was just campaign pander. What else you tell us, but do not mean? What else you promise that you do not intend to do? Are you that arrogant that you think that Americans are that stupid? For a politician who promises to tell voters "not what they want to hear but the truths they need to hear" this is a jarring degree of hypocrisy.
    Dear Senator, I am sorry to say but you lost me as a potential supporter. You represent so many things that I despise, that I am very much concern now that you might be nominated and (God forbid) elected to become the United States President. I can assure you that I will work hard to stop you from becoming our next Commander-in-Chief. From this moment on and until November I am fighting against you as hard as I can. I will write letters, I will organize meetings, I will talk to as many people as I can, I will send money as much as I can to those who as myself will be feverishly working to stop you from changing this wonderful country of ours into the Union of Socialistic States of America .
    Sincerely,
    Leon A.Weinstein
    Los Angeles , CA
    leonweinstein@hotmail.com

    Posted by neil1785 May 19, 08 12:03 PM
  1. To Number 15: Longhorn Fan
    Look into your BIBLE...the discription of the anti-christ is OBAMA!
    I am not willing to take the chance.

    All I know is that our country needs a good leader, a strong leader and we don't have one running. I have to pick the best of the three...and it is Hillary. OBAMA does not have the experience our country must have to pull us up and out of this recession and the many other issues facing us. I am truly afraid, truly. If Obama wins the nomination, I will vote for McCain. If Obama wins the election, I see the United States dropping as a super power and by 2011 or 2012 we will be begging for help from more countries than CHINA and for more than money.

    In God We Trust,
    Daysy2k

    Posted by Jade Day May 19, 08 12:04 PM
  1. To: Possible Democratic Party of America Presidential nominee & some say next
    Commander-and-Chief of the United States & Moral Leader of the Western World.
    April 21, 2008
    Dear Senator Obama,
    My name is Leon Weinstein. I immigrated to the United States in 1986, and since I became a citizen, I was voting either republican or democrat, depending on issues and personalities. In fiscal and international areas I am conservative, on many social issues I am a liberal. I am pro-choice, pro-legalization of marihuana, pro-amnesty for illegal emigrants (with however a good solid wall constructed to regulate this issue in the future), pro-staying in Iraq until the situation stabilized, pro-getting our hundred billion dollars investment in Iraq back from sales of Iraqi oil, and with a strong stance against Muslim extremists and other aggressive countries and organizations. I would also want to disassemble the United Nations, this joke of a forum where human rights committee members are Iran & Syria .
    I found some surprising and troubling words in your books and speeches, and found a profound luck of experience that you are proposing to substitute with judgment. You are saying that you have “good judgment” and this statement is based on one quote regarding war in Iraq . The truth, of course, is that you were not in the US senate at that time and didn’t have an access to the intelligence they had (you yourself said it several times prior to the Presidential race). But OK, let’s play by your rules and examine your judgment on other issues and situations. Below is an account of my findings regarding your words, actions and judgments.
    Let me start with a little historical observation. My great grandparents were Jewish and lived in a small village, with no legal right to move to a larger city, being prohibited to enter Universities, denied elementary human rights and frequently being subjected to pogroms. They were killed, humiliated and raped. This was occurring so often that my ancestors decided that we will call our children’s race by their mother’s.