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Clinton makes case to superdelegates

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor May 28, 2008 02:26 PM

In what appears to be her closing argument to the dwindling number of undeclared superdelegates, Hillary Clinton sent a letter and accompanying memo laying out her case that she would be the strongest Democrat to go up against John McCain in November.

She argues that she has beaten Barack Obama and is leading McCain in the polls in the swing states a Democrat must win, and that she is putting together the core Democratic coalition of women, seniors, Latinos, and working class and rural voters.

Clinton also says that after the last contests on June 3, she expects to lead in the total popular vote (counting the disputed Florida and Michigan primaries, of course.)

"I hope that in the time remaining, you will think hard about which candidate has the best chance to lead our party to victory in November," she writes in the letter, obtained by CNN. "I hope you will consider the results of the recent primaries and what they tell us about the mindset of voters in the key battleground states. I hope you will think about the broad and winning coalition of voters I have built. And most important, I hope you will think about who is ready to stand on that stage with Senator McCain, fight for the deepest principles of our party, and lead our country forward into this new century."

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Hillary is using a technique of lying with statistics called "confirmation bias". It goes like this. When you want to convince people opf something that isn't true, you go out there and look for something, anything at all, that confirms your viewpoint. Then you tell the story as if it is some kind of physical law,

In her case, she is claiming to be the popular vote winner based on Michican and Florida and votes she doesn't have yet on June 3. And as you know, Obama was not on the Michigan ballot, and neither candidate campaigned in Florida implying they agrees with the rules.

More examples of confirmation bias:
1. The sniper shooting story
2. The electoral vote argument based on primary voting
3. Her 35 years of experience which includes 28 years as a politicians housewife
4. When Bill Clinton paid off Jeramiah Wright under the table to appear on CNN
etc. etc.

Time to quit what doesn't work. American voters are just not that stupid, as the votes indicate. And she is certainly NOT ready to be caommader in chief - in fact she never had a sole reporting to her in her life and she doesn't know what the word strategy means - she is all rhetoric.

Oh,

Posted by edra May 28, 08 05:32 PM
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I am an Obama supporter who would vote for Hillary without hesitation if she were the nominee and who deplores the ugly name-calling both have had to face on the campaign trail. Will some Hillary supporters truly vote for four more years of Republican rule - Roe v. Wade, health care, Iraq - simply to stick it to Obama? Does that advance the cause of feminism or peace or the rule of law? Is threatening to vote for McCain if Hillary is not the nominee really a valid primary tactic? How did Hillary squander the overwhelming support of the African-American community as the campaign progressed? Why is the campaign 30$ million in debt? Why was there no strategy beyond Super Tuesday? Which campaign is currently conducting a grass-roots 50-state voter registration drive?

Posted by godblessusa May 28, 08 05:33 PM
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All you Billary supporters need to suck it up and get behind the PEOPLES choice in Obama. And before you start with the old "experience" argument take a step back and realize that Team Obama has mopped the floor with Hillary. As far as McShame is concerned, he wont raise the money and 80% of his staff are known lobbyists which he is trying to purge from his campaign so who will be left. McSame will have his ass handed to him in the coming months and look like the blabbering geriatric fool that he truly is.
So far Team Obama has had the same players since day one and stayed on message since day one. Talk about experience, he just taught 2 candidates a class in experience. As for the ones who say "he doesn't have a plan" blah blah blah. Go read a book written by Obama "The Audacity of Hope". You can read? Or do you get your "facts" from the dying MSM.
Billary supporters: Get over you racism and do whats best for America and get in line and stop this nonsense.
McFlightsuit fans: I cant wait to have Obama go toe to toe in prime time. It'll be real ugly for the GOP.

Posted by Stanley Ford May 28, 08 05:33 PM
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poor, delusional, paranoid HC and her supporters.after her lying, cheating, moving the goal posts time and again, sending her husband out to do her (racially-charged) dirty work, driving her campaign into debt, the list goes on and on.

i would LOVE a woman to be president - but not THAT woman. THAT woman who INVITED REVERAND WRIGHT TO THE WHITE HOUSE TO GIVE HER SPIRTUAL COUNSEL after her husband cheated, THAT WOMAN who REDACTED JOHNNY CHUNG'S NAME FROM HER FIRST LADY SCHEDULES, THAT WOMAN who has dropped subtle race bombs and then run, denying all the while - that WOMAN IS A DISGRACE TO ALL WOMEN.

Posted by jin May 28, 08 05:33 PM
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Obama maniacs just one question. What has he done? In a very undistinguished political career in the Illinois Senate his most common vote was present. In the US Senate he was so much a non-factor that in the two years before he began running for president he never even called a meeting of the sub-committee that he was chairman of. The only thing I know about him for sure is that for 20 years he shouted amen at all of Rev Wrights racist rants. It is easy to look at the empty vessel that Obama is and fill it with whatever you approve of. We all want change and we all need hope but what is he offering, change to what. We have just put up with 8 years of a president who was inexperienced and did not wish to do the work of governing. Surely we don't need 8 more.

Posted by Michael Fortunato May 28, 08 05:33 PM
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EDO'S got it! Settle for the Supreme Court. Overturn Roe v. Wade over Hillary's body. That job's as important for the lives she wants to serve a the Presidency and only a few notches down the ego ladder. Give up gracefully, agree to serve President Obama, make a backroom deal for the Court. If he looses, we be hear to help you run for what's left (not much) in 2012.

Posted by Cattawissa May 28, 08 05:33 PM
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When that honest and brilliant congressman, Dennis Kucinich was given almost no time to speak at the debates and then excised from the debates completely, where was Hillary to speak out against this injustice? She had been heard telling John Edwards that the"second tier" candidates should not be allowed to debate at all. Get over it Hillary!! Now it is your turn to be treated like you are irrelevant

Posted by PatB May 28, 08 05:36 PM
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Sorry, I got lost in all this rambling. Dee #10 said it the best " we are MESS" and if you think "hope" and "change" are going to work and a "new way" well then you are surely mistaken.

Hillary will "FIX" things! People hate the Clinton's for being "connected"... guess what folks that's what we need. You want innocent, pure, and "hope"... it's too late. We need to reverse the biggest mistake Americans ever made and Hillary can do it!

Forget what you heard at a dinner party, or at work, or on the TV and vote for what is SMART, RIGHT AND GOINg TO MAKE A DIIFERENCE!!

We're ready for you Hillary!!!

Posted by Denver Dennis May 28, 08 05:38 PM
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Clinton is a LIAR . . . oh, wait, which one am I talking about???

Posted by Harriet Williams May 28, 08 05:38 PM
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I am certainly not naive about politics in general or the specific weaknesses of each candidate. But given the problems we have as a country, it will take inspiration to move the mountain of resistance. While H might be a more qualified "fixer" she certainly is not an inspirer. And that is what we need TODAY. Whatever you say about Obama, there is no question that he is possibly the most inspirational candidate perhaps since Robert Kennedy. His effectiveness will depend on his cabinet and I have faith that he will attract the best and brightest.

Posted by Jim May 28, 08 05:38 PM
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Thank you, Betty Richardson, for showing us why Hillary won so big in West Virginia. Let me tell you, as a 26 year-old, I am really not that excited to be governed by anyone picked by barely coherent, illiterate octogenarians. In fact, just as the vote is reserved for those over 18, there should be a rule barring voting after 75. After all, most of those over 75, who voted for Bush, probably didn't get to see the result of their actions. Why don't you just let those of us who'll actually be living with the new government elect the people to run it.

Posted by Axel Molotov May 28, 08 05:38 PM
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Hillary has lost fair and square. It is sad to see so many people willing to support someone who agreed to play by one set of rules, only to try and overturn those rules when it serves them, and to do so by lying.

I am a former Hillary supporter myself, but she lost me once she started trying to make up a new set of rules to suit her needs.

I am a woman who would like to see a woman president, but not one who lies and cheats to win. Her actions reflect poorly on women. It is sad and unfortunate that she cannot grieve and move on to support the party. She is very bitter.


Posted by Susan O'Leary May 28, 08 05:39 PM
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If Florida and Michigan want their votes counted, they should make sure to vote in November.......

Posted by Ron May 28, 08 05:40 PM
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Where we are today in terms of what happened to Florida & Michigan was a known fact before IOWA and Clinton camp was in full support of national committee's rules.

For the last few months she has used various arguments why she should be the nominee. In essence she has made the party devided and basically has set the stage to gift the november election to McCain so she could run again in 2012.

No question about her & husband's good work over the past several years, but once they fell behind, their true charactor started showing and for this reason I have lost my respect for her and her husband.

it is time for the uncommitted super delegates to show some backbone and Endorse Senator Obama now and ask her to exit gracefully. I'm not a shrink, but Her behavior simply points to one direction, and that being getting the nomination at all costs. Certainly this behavior does not demonstrate what is good for the country or party. It is all about Her.
Had she been ahead and not senator obama and senator had acted this way, I would have made the same argument.

Senator Obama ran a better campaign while hers went to sleep and this will the rubbery millenium if she is nominated.

If we go with her , this means between Clintons and Bush family we have had 30 years or so of two families in the white house. I believe that on both sides of the aisle most people like to see a change and Senator Obama offers the much needed change we all desparately waiting for.

Posted by Ben-KD May 28, 08 05:42 PM
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I think that the Hillary supporters who will vote for McCain in November, would not have voted for Obama anyway. Guess what, Obama will still win the election in November because they are in the minority, so I say vote for Mckain.... LOSERS!

Posted by Chris May 28, 08 05:43 PM
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I think a woman president is a great idea but lets pick the right woman. For example, Condalesa Rice is a very intelligent woman who is respected by leaders all over the world and she is not the self centered power hungry person that Hillary Clinton is.
Golda Mier who led Israel was one of the best women leaders in history.
There is nothing wrong with a woman president as long as she cares more for the people of this country than she does for her own legacy.

Posted by Larry B. May 28, 08 05:45 PM
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Dear Hillary Shmillary, Become an Obama Mama or get lost you loser.

Posted by O bama on yer head Hillary May 28, 08 05:50 PM
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If you owned a corporation, would you hire a CEO that had a track record of lying and twisting facts, did not care about you, your corporation or its people but only their personal need for power and status? Normally this could only happen if you did not know better or were not informed.

Posted by AK May 28, 08 05:50 PM
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NOT SO FAST! It ain't over 'till the fat lady in the ugly pant suits starts singing - so hop to Hillary - hit them high notes!

Posted by esteban May 28, 08 05:52 PM
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I want to puke! Obama will never win my vote! Hillary has fought like a real warrior against Obama and the press since the beginning of the race! He is the Britney Spears of Politics: Britney doesn't know how to sing; Obama doesn't know what he's talking about; both are creations of the media targetting the easiest consumers: the youth. I hope Hillary does something drastic like in some way taking away all of her supporters from the democrat party, then we'll see if Obama wins the presidency!

Posted by Hillary the Great May 28, 08 05:53 PM
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To all the people who say "I don't even know what Obama stands for," you see we have this thing called the I.N.T.E.R.N.E.T. now. It's a marvelous new invention. You can do research by going to the candidate's websites, Wikipedia, and countless scholarly news sources. You don't just have to listen to talking heads and candidates' speeches on the TV any more.

Really, you should check it out.

[Snarky comments aside, Mark's comment #59 is right on. Let's keep it civil, folks.]

Posted by TXCourtney May 28, 08 05:55 PM
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As far as I know, none of the persons making comments here are superdelegates, nor are they likely to be close advisors to same. Therefore, these comments have no bearing on the outcome of this primary. The comments do one thing though. Sadly, they make it clear that we are a nation a people deeply divided, bitter, and cynical. We are, it seems no longer capable of choosing without vilifying. We seem unable to believe that we are choosing among several worthwhile leaders. The simple fact that we must choose causes us to revert to childish polarity.

After much thought, I became an Obama supporter while still thinking that some of Clinton's program ideas were probably better. Her campaign in the last two months has been a disappointment because she has encouraged this kind of vitriolic polarity more than has Obama. His campaign has been disappointing in the same way at times, but not as often. I do not forgive either of them for even a little divisive negativity. Our country and the process would have been better served by speaking to the issues.

Let's all please stop it.

In all probability, Barack Obama will be our nominee. Whichever one is, we must all give every effort to getting that person elected--not because the Republican candidate is evil and hateful (as many of us will foolishly claim), but because the policy directions of the Democratic Party seem at this time to be significantly better for our people and the people of the world than the policy directions of the other party.

Both of these fine senators have much left to offer this country. Let's use them both. Let's encourage them both to change the National direction. And let's tell them both that we prefer more positive campaigns in the future.

Posted by Dennis Burges May 28, 08 05:56 PM
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She should give up, the people have spoken. The Democratic Party has been ridiculed for swinging back and forth on the issue, and fighting with in the party. What the people want to see is a Democratic Party that is united. The only thing good about the Republican Party is their unity. I mean the Commander and Chief of our country for the last 8 years has the vocabulary of a 5th grader, but they still stand strong behind him and his policies.

Posted by Travis May 28, 08 05:57 PM
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Obama represents the cult of personality, just as George W. Bush did to voters.
Hillary at least has more substance in her rhetoric and would be more likely
to push Universal Health Care through--also Obama's health care would not be
"universal". Why do the American people so blindly follow a mainstream media
controlled by right-wing money, again and again and again? Because we don't
take the time to kneel ourselves into thinking, really thinking and caring. And what
about our young people (not all) who seem blander, more self-centered than
than previous generations--do they know why they want Obama? Well, at least
many Republicans know why they hope he'll be McCain's opponent.

Posted by Sigrid Bergie Feliciano May 28, 08 05:58 PM
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watch how obama stumbles on issue speeches. he has to read them from a piece of paper and can't even do that well. when he is giving his change speeches he is fine - but anyone can be good at happytalk. this dem says if clinton isn't the candidate, i will vote for mc cain. we have a country to fix. he's not ready. people have to stop fooling themselves.

Posted by ftm May 28, 08 05:58 PM
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I miss Al Gore.

Posted by Scott in NC May 28, 08 05:59 PM
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To all the people who say "I don't even know what Obama stands for," you see we have this thing called the I.N.T.E.R.N.E.T. now. It's a marvelous new invention. You can do research by going to the candidate's websites, Wikipedia, and countless scholarly news sources. You don't just have to listen to talking heads and candidates' speeches on the TV any more.

Really, you should check it out.

[Snarky comments aside, Mark's comment #59 is right on. Let's keep it civil, folks.]

Posted by TXCourtney May 28, 08 06:00 PM
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I am so sick and tired of Hillary Clinton is the "stronger candidate". If she was the strongest candidate should she not have more delegates than Obama. She does not! She would have greater percentage of the popular vote in those primaries sanctioned by the party who's banner she and Obama are campaigning under. Ergo she is not the strongest candidate. Ms. Clinton and her "supporters" need to give it a rest and stop crying like a bunch of two year olds!

Posted by Ermon May 28, 08 06:04 PM
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40. Posted by Vince May 28, 08 03:26 PM
To all you ignorant kool-aid drinkers....yes I mean ignorant. You idiots can't even spell.

I can just see it....Sharton for Vice-President, Jesse Jackson for Secretary of State and O.J. Simpson as Attorney General! God help us!
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HA! Who the hell is "Sharton", you ignorant idiot!! Yeah, I know who you mean, but you mis-spelled it beyond belief, fool!

Seriously, if you are truly a Democrat, or even a Libertarian, you cannot actually be considering McCain. This election is not about Hillary or Obama, it's about the Supreme Court, it's about health care, it's about the Constitution. If you think otherwise, there is no hope for you.

Posted by Ron May 28, 08 06:06 PM
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Funny that people are saying Hillary is losing even though she has won the popular vote.

These are probably the same people that said Gore won against Bush in 2000 because Gore had more votes nationwide.

So when it's not someone you want to win, the rules make sense, but when it's your guy who's down, everyone calls for a game changer?

I've been with Hillary since the beginning, and will continue to be there for her. She has gotten the most votes and has the best chance of beating McCain in November. People need to wake up, unless of course they want McCain to be president...

Posted by matthew May 28, 08 06:07 PM
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Senator Hillary Clinton is still in denial that she has lost the Democratic presidential nomination to her opponent Senator Obama. She is a great politician
but the earlier she acknowledges that the race is over the better for her future political prospects in the nation. It is in Hillary's interest to admit that the race is lost to Senator Obama and start the bargaining process and unifying the Democratic Party. Senator Hillary Clinton's continue denial of loosing the Democractic normination is being in political fantacy sphere. She should exit the race gracefully and stop the political anger building process.

Posted by Al May 28, 08 06:08 PM
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The takeover of the Democratic Party by radical left-wing, cult leader Obama and his radical left-wing. cult superdelegates must be resisted. Sen. Clinton must take her fight to the convention for the future of the Democratic Party and America. All rational Democrats must show steadfast support for her campaign with frequest contributions at HillaryClinton.com.

The uncommitted superdelegates are challenged to select the best qualified and strongest candidate to win the general election using their independent judgement without regard to any "delegate math." The superdelegates are not locked in by pledged delegates, as evidenced by Kennedy, Kerry, Richardson, Dodd, and Byrd who disregarded the pledged delegates. The decision of the superdelegates calls for them to show wisdom, integrity, and courage in honoring their true function and standing loyal to the principles of the Democratic Party. In this regard, they have only one choice for the Democratic presidential nominee: Sen. Clinton.

If the unqualified, inexperienced and radical left-wing liberal Obama ends up with the Democratic nomination, complete unity is hopeless and the Democratic Party will lose in a landslide in November.

Sen. Clinton is the Democratic Party's only hope to win the general election; she is the best qualified and the strongest Democratic presidential nominee to defeat McCain in a landslide victory hands down.

Posted by crat3 May 28, 08 06:17 PM
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PEOPLE, WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT OBAMA? HE CAME OUT OF NOWHERE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT. WHO IS BEHIND THIS MAN PUSHING HIS BUTTONS? ARE WE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL HE IS UP AGAINST MCCAIN TO FIND OUT IN THE GENERAL ELECTION ?

I AM NOT IN LOVE WITH HILLARY BUT AT LEAST SHE IS OUT IN THE OPEN AND YOU CAN LOOK INTO WHAT SHE STANDS FOR AND WHAT SHE HAS DONE WHILE IN PUBLIC SERVICE. CAN'T SAY THAT ABOUT MR. OBAMA. I THINK THE COUNTRY IS FOLLOWING THE PIED PIPER OF ILLINOIS STRAIGHT INTO CHAOS.

THE REPUBLICANS HAVE SET THIS UP BECAUSE THEY KNOW OBAMA CANNOT BEAT MCCAIN. THOSE REPUBLICAN CROSSOVER VOTES IN ALL THOSE RED STATES HE WON WILL NOT BE THERE IN NOVEMBER.

Posted by CHICO HERNANDEZ May 28, 08 06:18 PM
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Um, I wonder: If Sen. Obama was 100% white would the Hillary supporters vote for John McCain?

When I read that they would vote for McCain instead of Obama, they're are saying that no way would they vote for a African American.

Posted by Pat Potter May 28, 08 06:18 PM
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She voted for the war.
Enough said.

Posted by Falladowna May 28, 08 06:20 PM
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I wonder how many minds would change if people actually stopped and thought back to when Bill Clinton was president. If I remember correctly it's because of him that businesses are able to move out of the US and into other countries, causing thousands of people to lose their jobs. Do Clinton supporters actually think that Hilary will put a stop to something that her husband started up years ago?

Posted by Brandy May 28, 08 06:22 PM
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The biggest problem I see was that Hillary ran and people thought that was great. She's a woman, she's been in the White house, she's experienced in the Senate, she's traveled the world speaking with heads of nations. Big deal. We all saw this coming the day the Clintons moved to New York and she won a seat on the US Senate. Why didn't she go back to Arkansas? Think about it? The problem I see with Barak Hussain Obama is he has no experience. He's just a regular guy, but he is a minority and charismatic. He really has no experience even in the Senate. He was only there for a short time before he started his presidential campaign. There are a lot of better democrats out there who are a lot more experienced, so why were they overlooked. Makes you wonder doesn't it?


Posted by Matthew in the USA May 28, 08 06:23 PM
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Hilliary and Bill Clinton are completely out of the Democratic League and should have no part in our Democracy!! They castigate the Democratic Party, they slander and put Senator Obama down, they praise McCain, they praise the Republican Party. These two no longer share the values of the Democratic Party, their unsatiable hunger for power defines who they are: Self-serving egomaniacs. Both act and sound like they have lost all touch with reality. Bill Clinton griping that Hilliary has been shown disrespect??? Geeze, Bill, how much respect did you show your wife with all your philandering?? I would say you hardly showed her any respect and/or affection, you were too busy sexually exploiting anything in a skirt that suited your fancy. Please do not talk to us about Hilliary not getting any respect when you yourself have respected her the least. Further more, Hilliary and you have lost what little respect we had for you! Your behavior throughout this campaign has been outrageous. RESPECT IS EARNED; IT IS NOT A FREE COMMODITY!! Hilliary, you have lost the nomination. We, the majority of the voters, have spoken and you are NOT listening to and not hearing us. Do you know what that means, Hilliary?? That means you are trying to DISFRANCHIZE US. Senator Obama is now 202 delegates ahead of you. He only has about 45 more delegates before he reached the 2026 mark; you have about 247. Come on, face reality and stop miring the numbers!! Like throughout your campaign, you continue to spew your lies; knock it off and accept the fact you have lost the nomination. If you are so "electable" how come YOU are so far behind in states won, delegates, superdelegates, and popular vote? The voters have spoken!!

By the way, how can you claim yourself the winner in Michigan and Florida when those states held illegal primaries??? People in those states were told their votes would not count and their delegates would not be seated at the convention in Denver. YOU AGREED!!!! Because you fell behind in the competition, you changed your mind and disagree??? Yes, totally untrustworthy!!

Posted by NinaK May 28, 08 06:23 PM
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Hillary Clinton is the only honorable choice.
Obama is in the back pockets of
those who he doesnt want to name.

Machinations behind the scenes to keep her from her due delegates,are
only coming from those who want Obama to proceed to the polls in November to lose to the other side..wake up and smell the coffee.

Posted by S West May 28, 08 06:25 PM
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Ive seen this headline about 30 times since January......

What case is there to make.......

She has 30 years of experience, Was first lady, and has some great plans

So what is it that these SuperDelegates know about Hillary Clinton that is having them Jump SHIP to Obama......its scary if you look at it that way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bill Richardson, John Edwards, Close friends and former Bill Clinton cabinet members who know Mrs. Clinton extremely well........are siding with Obama

all these party insiders, people of great political experience who have access to the same polls and information that Clinton does are casting their vote for Obama......

What makes these people feel that Clinton is unelectable??????

Thats the real case the superdelegates should make known to US

Posted by Oregon4Obama May 28, 08 06:29 PM
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When Obama lies, the media calls it "Gaffe" and gets a free pass. Obama is not fit to be in the same room as Hillary. He has no experience and we don't need Chicago Politics in D.C. You will see, more will come out about Obama and what kind of "change" he's talking about.

GO HILLARY 2009

Posted by anna May 28, 08 06:30 PM
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The country is going down the hill. Why would we want a young idiot with no experience like Obama to "run" it? He would really bring us down!
By the way, I don't know what some talk about when they say that Obama will unify the Democratic Party. Don't they get it? Those who support Hillary don't like, don't want him, and will never support him!

Posted by Me May 28, 08 06:31 PM
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Wow, all you democrats here amaze me. The Clintons walked on water, could do no wrong. Now you're turning on them like a bunch of banshees. Watch out Obama, you're probably next.

Posted by KathyYou know what s May 28, 08 06:35 PM
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1. She voted for the war.

2. I know Americans have the attention span of a squirrel on crack but, try to remember which party the mess we are in now. The real question is are we gonna have 4 more years of this or something different. If the pouty old ladies get upset because Hill-Billy doesn't get the nod and vote for McCain, you're in the wrong party.

Posted by Joe May 28, 08 06:36 PM
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Your blog is great, but one wonders how many of those posting comments are part and parcel of the Republican blogging staff, paid and volunteered. The amount of hatred expressed in this blog site is unbelievable. If what is being expressed in the blog is true, Republicans have bought and paid for a Democratic candidate they can defeat in November.

Senator Obama is a good person, but he is where he is by virtue of Republican funding, support and most important, Republicans that voted in the Democratic primaries. If he is the nominee, I will vote for him, and I wish he were electible, but I am fearful that he doen't stand a chance beyond the primary races.

Ignore the polls, the hate letters to editors and blogs that are used and orchestrated by the Republican party. Even if you don't like Clinton, work and vote for a Democratic majority in both houses of Congress, just in case Senator McCain is elected.


Posted by Joe May 28, 08 06:39 PM
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I hope the superdelegates give her an answer soon...and send her packing.

Posted by bridad57 May 28, 08 06:50 PM
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Meanwhile, in real election news: "Obama competitive against McCain with key voters"

Posted by King May 28, 08 06:51 PM
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I can promise you I will vote for clinton or the republican, rather than have Obama, a naive amature, in charge of this country.

Anyone who thinks they can 'change' washington is naive (deficient in worldly wisdom or informed judgment)

Posted by Change what..Be Real May 28, 08 06:53 PM
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Thaknsfully, not too many support Hillary 6:31. Only rabid lemmings won't vote for Obama. Check the news ---> "Obama competitive against McCain with key voters"

Posted by King May 28, 08 06:53 PM
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I think that the Clintons era is getting to an end. It is unfortunate that she is working very hard to divide the party instead of uniting it. At this point she is definitively causing more harm than good to the Democratic party

Posted by Philippe May 28, 08 06:53 PM
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HILARY, ITS OVER FOR YOU. WAKE UP, THERE IS NO WAY YOU ARE GOING TO GET THE NOMINATION. PLEASE EXIT GRACEFULLY . DON'T EMBARASS YOURSELF ANYMORE.

Posted by BOO-HOO May 28, 08 06:56 PM
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Hasn't this lying shrew done enough to hurt the party. What's next a late nite visit to the Superdelegates hotel rooms? Just morr proof that the lying tramp will do whatever and say whatever is necessary to get the nomination.

Posted by David May 28, 08 07:00 PM
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Hillary is a liar and deceiver, Enough said.

Obama is naive if he thinks he can bring about change in the Machevaillean mess of Washington politics. What has he done to make anyone believe he can when has yet to show any leadership so far during his senatorial tenure.

McCain in an insider and who knows what he really believes in?

Though I have been a Republican for 40 years, I would have considered Edwards but now I have little left to choose from. It is truly a sad stae of affairs.

If it comes to McCain vs Clinton, I would gladly cast my vote against Hillary rather than for McCain if I could, between McCain and Obama I would unenthusiastically go with McCain.

Posted by pjs May 28, 08 07:05 PM
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As a young, voting, tax-paying citizen of this country, I am looking to the Democratic Party to turn things around. I am a die-hard Obama fan, as he, in my opinion, has shown what it takes to be a progressive, charismatic leader. That being said, I will vote for HRC if she manages to squeeze her way into the General Election...that is what it takes to be a Party supporter. What kind of venom runs through HRC's staunch supporters' veins where they would rather see the Republican Empire reclaim the throne than stand behind the fairly elected nominee to the party they are fighting for?!?

Posted by B-rad May 28, 08 07:14 PM
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It's pretty obvious to me that Hillary is stronger in FL OH PA NH NM IN and WV. These are the states that matter. If we don't win those it will be McCain. We'll have another bitter night watching returns in November. I'm really not looking forward to this.....WAKE UP SUPER DELEGATES! The Electoral Map is the only thing that matters.

Posted by Frank May 28, 08 07:47 PM
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The difference between the amount that is contributed and the amount it costs to run the campaign each day may be the reason she runs. No wonder she wants it to go on till the convention.

Now she has no need for the expensive polling data.

Posted by Ron M May 28, 08 08:15 PM
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Throw it into trash bin.

Posted by T.L. May 28, 08 08:21 PM
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I think ALL the votes should be counted. I do not think the Hillary supporters will vote for Obama. I think they will sit it out, (Just as I plan to do if Obama is the nominee.) He does not have the experience or the record to be the nominee.

Posted by Frances Carroll May 28, 08 08:22 PM
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Senator Clinton used information from Karl Rove's consulting company as the basis for her saying she was ahead in the polls. Karl Rove? Really? The only thing less trustworthy than a poll 6 months ahead of an election is anything that comes out of Karl Rove's mouth.

My candidate was out of the race before I had a chance to vote in the primary, and I really was torn between the Senators. With that said, I can't believe how low Senator Clinton has sunk during the last few months of these primary's. Somewhere along the line she realized her only chance to win is to play to people's fear--- fear of war, fear of a black man, fear of intelligent dialog, fear of complex issues. She has attempted to change the rules she agreed too, she has run her campaign into tremendous debt, she has lied about her experiences and her motivations. If that doesn't sound like more of the same (Bush/Rove), I don't know what does.

I just hope that both corporate-dominated parties allow the Greens and the Libertarians to join them in a spirited debate this summer.

Posted by KingFish May 28, 08 09:05 PM
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I really long for people like Jefferson, when this country had dignity... Obama is the only candidate that I even see a glimmer of true American idealism in, but it really saddens me to see the political process become so commercialized and reality-tv-show-esque.

Hillary, you're done. it's really really pathetic now.

Posted by Daniel H May 28, 08 09:23 PM
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Effective Use of Language.......

Clinton uses "I" ALOT......"I" am more electable, "I" have more experience, I, I ,I

Obama uses "We" or "Our" "our" campaign, Yes "we" can.................

I could give transcripts on both Obama and Hillary to an english teacher to have them tell me that Clinton is incredibly selfish in her statements.......

Language always gives people away......Think about it and do some research

Posted by Oregon4Obama May 28, 08 09:29 PM
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Ouchie ouchie must be that sniper fire was closer than I though. Go Obama, maybe you can put some respectability back into this nations highest office.

Posted by Keith May 28, 08 09:33 PM
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Here we go again.... Clinton's Dear John letter to the superdelegates.

Posted by Ron May 28, 08 09:36 PM
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Frank, You are right to the point. This is exactly why the Democratic PArty has appointed the SuperDelegates. Unfortunately, we have seen to many of them already throw their support behind Obama, which is premature to say the least. I can not believe that these SuperDelegates cannot recall the last 2 general elections & see how critical these States are going to be in November. Someone, Please Prove to me that Obama has a chance with any of them, ( FL., OH., & PA.). If the Dems do not win at least 2 of these 3 states, the middle class will continue to be ripped off by the same policies of the past 7+ years & the nation will continue to slide down a very slippery slope. God Forbid. No pun intended for you republican Ideological nutjobs

Posted by Dave May 28, 08 09:45 PM
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Just the fact that Obama had the Reverend Wright as his pastor for many years tells me that the face he is presenting to America is not his true face. Anyone who would follow a racist such as Wright for such a long time, would have to have the same opinions, despite Obama's race to distance himself from Wright once Wright came out of the "racial closet."
Hillary Clinton has had years of experience and knows what she is doing. How anyone can think Obama can lead the country is beyond me. It would be similar to taking an average 5th grader and registering him as a freshman college student at Harvard. He would be way over his head and that's exactly where Obama will be if by some miracle he gets elected. Give him time. Maybe in 10-15 years he will have shown us what kind of leader he can be. He hasn't shown anything yet except that he has a dark side, witness his alliance with Reverend Wright - and some charisma which shouldn't fool anyone. Sociopaths are known to be charismatic. Anyone with a brain should be able to see through him.

Posted by Lainie May 28, 08 10:04 PM
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Hillary voted against seating Michigan and Florida, until she saw a disadvantage to herself in that choice; then she pulled a switch. Whatever suits the needs of the moment (as she perceives them), is what she will say and do. She constantly takes the nearest exit from whatever trouble she's gotten herself into, without looking to see what's on the other side of the exit. Then she has to come up with a new, equally short-sighted strategy. She is constantly RE-acting to situations that she has inadvertently set up by not looking past her nose. This demonstrates the difference between experience (from which she doesn't seem to have learned anything) and wisdom, which Obama demonstrates by running a well-organized campaign based on respect for both his campaign workers, and the voters.

Posted by Holly Helmstetter May 28, 08 10:06 PM
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Hillary Clinton is the only candidate that can beat John McCain. It would be foolish for the democratic party to nominate Obama when he cannot win the necessary electoral votes to win the white house. The democratic party should unite around Hillary, and build a Hillary/Obama ticket so we can win this election.

Posted by Jeri, Boston MA May 28, 08 10:12 PM
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The plate remains vacant for the one to move mountains and institute fundamental change. This nation has heard the high road promise, and we are ready to believe that the person to bring to full glory the noble visions of Dr. King has come.

Alas, the one does not speak from the pulpit, he speaks from the political platform. The implication is that he seeks the personal glory coming from the president's office, not his stated quest to unite, to help bring food for the hungry, to bring more books and funds to the ignorant and to the needy, to provide more jobs to those who seek work. Heaven seems to be the path of his vision, yet good intentions have paved the way to hell.

His programs of government are only one of the many options of governance, not glorious goals as he wants to portray. In an election year for one who wants the presidency, the promise for fundamental change can only lead this country to unfulfilled hopes. The hoodwink may not seem obvious to uninitiated, hopeful constituents, but the deepest craving is for his own meeting with destiny, not the true creation of the real, pure destiny to greatness.

He has formed expectant hopes in millions of hearts. I myself will follow him with unadulterated loyalty, if he now forsakes his unholy greed for the presidency covered in hopeless promise for fundamental change..

He will truly be in the right path to greatness, to unconditional service to his fellowmen, to unquestionable love and honor from everyone, if he can now divorce himself from that glorified quest for the presidency and lead the young, the educated, and the minority groups to his dream, to Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr's visions.

The time has come for his own personal defining moment. The corpus to move this country forward just requires him to declare his independence from political dirty webs. His following is great in numbers, he called himself the noble precursor of great future, and he all he needs to do is to prove.

This road that is now ready for the taking, if he chooses to ignore and continue to seek for his own glorification, may never come again in this format. The matrix is ripe for the taking, of this fruit that is largely of his own making.

Posted by roly luis May 28, 08 10:20 PM
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Hillary is SOOOOO SLEAZY.. YUCK! I need a shower just reading about her.

Posted by Dean from TX May 28, 08 10:29 PM
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To the people who are referring to Obama supporters as Kool-Aid drinkers, please stop. Not only are your comments insensitive, they are racist. It is ok if you don't agree for what Obama stands for. Instead of you all insulting our intelligence, share with us what it is about Obama's campaign and policies you don't like.

Posted by Kool May 28, 08 10:34 PM
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if clinton is the best candidate to beat mccain in the fall as she claims, why is her campaign out of money. obama is flush wih cash and has run a brilliant campaign. clinton has run a terrible campaign. both mccain and clinton have had managment and money problems with their campaigns, obama has had neither problem this tells me he would make a much better president.

Posted by gary from chicago May 28, 08 11:23 PM
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Everybody needs to keep in mind a really, really big thing.

The race didn't thin out until the end of January and then we had a massive wave of delegates in Super Tuesday and the next week or two.

Think about that time period. Prior to Iowa, Hillary was the presumtive nominee and was targetted by Republican and Democratic candidates. Everyone was doing a hatchet job on her. There was so much bad press on Hillary. Remember Edwards ganging up on Hillary. Hillary was like the horse that got bumped right out of the gate. Obama became the media darling because he brought the talking heads ratings.

Once the dust settled and it was one on one, she has done fine. The fact that she has done so well despite the intitial attacks on the front end by everyone, and the fact that Obama has not fielded anything tough and has some real weaknesses (like no accomplishments). Further, Obama has carried like 90 plus percentage of the black vote (a number that won't grow in the general election).

Anyway, it would be curious to see how he answers questions like if he thought the Iraq War was based on lies and was immoral, why did he soft soap and vote to confirm Condi Rice, one of the primary players in getting us in Iraq.

Watch the footage of Obama questioning Condi Rice and ask yourself if he comes off like someone that is a strong leader and has the conviction that we are in an immoral war based on lies. One would be much, much stronger than he was if he truely held those convictions. He is a people pleaser and wants to have everyone like him. He will command no respect from our enemies.

At least Hillary tried to get a health care program going. What Obama doesn't get is that once you do step out for working people, you get a big target on your back; ask Sal DiMasi who after standing up against the casino industry and the corrupt politicians on the take, was attacked politically. Obama has never been attacked because he has never stuck them up for anyone. At least Hillary fought for something in her lifetime. Obama fought to get his book published. He started out with the mission to write a book about race relations and was so self absorbed that he ended up writing about himself.

Then, when you think about it and put Obama's grandiloquent rhetoric into play (you know reaching across the aisle kind of stuff), you'll see that McCain actually embodies the words that Obama talks about. Kennedy, Kerry, Lieberman, etc. have tons of respect for McCain. McCain, because is often in the middle of the road is often hit by cars going both ways. Obama has never shown political courage in anything.

We have buyers remorse here in Massachusetts with Casino Jack Abramhoff, ohh, I meant Casino Deval Patrick. How insincere was that guy? He asked us to vote our aspirations and says no more business as usual in politics and then allows the most corrupt and unispired element right in the driver seat, casinos. We find out he helped lead predatory lending institutions, wrote letters to let rapists out of prison, and the cherry on top: casinos.

Posted by johnrayallenhitathreepointer May 28, 08 11:39 PM
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Anyone could make the argument that they would be the better candidate and would beat Obama in November; but they cannot just argue this fact, they have to play by the rules and earn the right to be on the ballot. What part of this does Hilary not understand. If Dems were to allow her to steal the nomination by argument (designed to try and shake sense into the remaining super delegates - she berates people whenever she speaks lately) rather than by clear-cut earning it by the rules, they would never win in November. Doesn't matter if you agree she is the better candidate or not, you nor she get to decide it is a matter of fact by polls or other such manipulation; it has to be done by the rules. Obama can win this thing and he has proven to be worthy of the ballot, and if you are buyin her line, I think there is some land in Arkansas that is for sale...

Posted by PD May 29, 08 12:05 AM
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The Democratic Party has to make a brave decision and make it soon. While Obama is a very good candidate "HE JUST CANT AND WILL NOT WIN AGAINST MC CAIN". That Is a sad fact of the matter. If they want to win in November they have to choose Hillary Clinton. Why not go for everyone's dream ticket and choose Obama as her running mate.

Posted by Alan Lawes May 29, 08 12:18 AM
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Why do the Obamanoids think, feel, and say, it's over, and that Barack has won?
First off, at this late date in the primary polling he only has a 5% lead in pledged and earned delegates, yes you read that right, 47% to 52%.
How does so many Obamanoids, coupled with the media, praising him left and right and crowning him the great black hope for months and months on end, and he only has a a short hair more than half of the party in his corner?
The convention is where the delegates cast their votes, when that's said and done, only then is it over, and then if Obama gets the nod, this "INDEPENDANT VOTER", this "TYPICAL WHITE PERSON" will not vote for him anyhow.

Posted by Rich May 29, 08 01:07 AM
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The last time a major Democratic party decision to "throw in the towel" was giving up on the Florida recount two (2) Republican presidential terms ago. Asking Hillary to follow that path of capitulation is pure folly for her and the party.

Posted by Dave Steinbach May 29, 08 01:35 AM
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After reading through seemingly endless coments here I feel inclined to ask my own question(s) ... Why is it some people seem to think BHO was put through school by a mother living on food stamps? ... Private schools, even in Hawaii, do not accept food stamps as tuition ... Why is it that not one commenter here said a word about Anthony Resko, the person on trial in Federal Court in Chicago for a number of crimes at the moment and one of BHO's biggest political backers? .... Why has no one pointed out that in his four years in theSenate he has done very little aside from rolling with the flow? ....

Why is nothing said to point out that in her first interview Michelle O. vehemently pointed out that she would not get involved in anything that took her away from her kids 'overnight'? ... Why is nothing said about her purchase of land between BHO's house and Tony Resko's in Chicago (Yup, they're next door neighbors) at far less than market value? .... If the purchase was on the up and up, why not have his name on it like the house (Which was also purchased in a 'sweetheart deal with Resco's wife as realty agent')? ....

All that said, I wonder why nothing is said about the fact Resko has many good friends and buddies in the middle east, just like BHO .... i don't care if BHO is black, white, red, brown or purple, his background pretty much stinks to high heaven unless those questions can be answwered satisfactorally ... DWC.

Posted by Walt Hughes,Sr. May 29, 08 01:36 AM
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Funny ... Al Gore hikedmhis skirts and ranm at the last minute, John Kerry folded like a house of cards, and people want t blame Hillary for standing her ground?
Go Hillary ... At least we had a balanced budget when Bill was in there instead of trillions of debt ....

Posted by Walt Hughes, Sr. May 29, 08 01:47 AM
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obama will lose if he doesnt get clinton as vp. especially if mccain gets condi rice for vp. in the general election, obama is too weak and doesnt come across as convincing to most women, elderly, asians, latinos, the less educated, white voters, etc. i mean, just put condi rice beside him, and blacks will have a hard time choosing.

Posted by nonoyd May 29, 08 01:48 AM
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"Change we can believe in"-- yea, sure, whatever. Obama can not win, folks. The Dumbocratic superdelegates know it; the Republicans know it. Guess who comes out on top-- the white guy. Duh.


Posted by M. A. R. May 29, 08 02:01 AM
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Hillary loves hard work! She could watch it all day
She has 35 years of experience watchin`

Hill is a shill for John McSame
an elephant in a donkey suit

Posted by Hoboclown May 29, 08 09:11 AM
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"I hope you will consider the results of the recent primaries and what they tell us about the mindset of voters in the key battleground states. I hope you will think about the broad and winning coalition of voters I have built.

That says it so well, doesn't it? She doesn't feel a Black Man can win. No other way to rad those comments. That, coupled with the assassination's bit, shows us what is one her mind, and it's both disgusting and delusional! She has show voters just how poor a President she would be, (ethics and honesty issues galore), that she won't be able to win against McCain, (a far more honorable man and the voters know this). Yet bitter feminists will still insist that the nomination go to her?

Posted by Larry May 29, 08 09:14 AM
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If Hillary is the best Dem canadate that can go up against McCain, then the Dem party has a problem. Why back someone that has such a poor showing of integrity ... remember all the scams and dealing the Clinton's did while in the Whitehouse and upon leaving. They both showed low integrity and immaturity.
Personally, I had enought of the Clinton's then, can't imagine another 8 years of the dynasty. Woman for Persident some day, yes, but pick a better person.

Posted by PilotAT6 May 29, 08 12:30 PM
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AS LONG AS YOU CONTINUE THE SAME OLD NEGATIVE, SEXIST REMARKS REGARDING HILLARY CLINTON, YES, MILLIONS OF US "OLD, WHITE WOMEN" WILL "UNITE TO SMITE" OBAMA IN NOVEMBER. YOU HAVE FAILED TO LISTEN TO US - TAKE HEED, WE ARE HERE AND WE ARE REAL.

Posted by Fluffy Stardust May 29, 08 12:49 PM
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This is not over until one candidate reaches the needed delegate number!

Hillary is right. She is the stronger candidate against McCain.


Posted by Jack May 29, 08 03:16 PM
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forget the obamaniacs...

we need a woman who knows how to take power by the balls...

monica lewinsky 08...

Posted by drj May 29, 08 03:17 PM
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AS LONG AS YOU CONTINUE THE SAME OLD NEGATIVE, SEXIST REMARKS REGARDING HILLARY CLINTON, YES, MILLIONS OF US "OLD, WHITE WOMEN" WILL "UNITE TO SMITE" OBAMA IN NOVEMBER. YOU HAVE FAILED TO LISTEN TO US - TAKE HEED, WE ARE HERE AND WE ARE REAL.

Posted by Fluffy Stardust May 29, 08 03:20 PM
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ole fluffy-

how stupid are you and your old white women???

don't you know these are republican posts???

don't take anything posted here seriously.

now go back to your bridge club and vote demo in november..

Posted by dr j May 29, 08 03:22 PM
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TO KOOL:

I will continue to call Obama people Kool -Aid Drinkers I am sick and tired of you calling us racist every time we criticize or say something you dislike. You Kool-Aid Drinkers think you have the right to call Hillary Supporters Old white woman and we have no right to say anything back.- Are you kidding?

Posted by mimi362 May 29, 08 03:29 PM
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The false logic here is bizarre. Clinton's major assumption is that her voters will, en masse, not vote for Obama. If that did indeed happen, the Democratic party is no more.

Posted by David May 29, 08 03:37 PM
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HRC is Republician light and Bill has turned into a nut! You people who plan to sit it out or vote for McBush if "your candidate" doesn't win, are just as wacky as Bill. Grow up. It's amazing to me that She now wants count the votes, not all the votes, just the ones that support her. When asked if Obama would get some of the delegates from Michigan, she inferred he took his name off the ballot for "polical reasons" and no, she wound not give him any delegates at all. Gee, that's fair. Oh, and as far as the popular vote goes, the population is not couned in any of the caucus states.

Posted by Randy Becker May 29, 08 03:47 PM
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To answer Walt Hughes question, Obama attended Punahou on a scholarship starting in the 5th grade. The school is noted for its large endowment and generous scholarships.

I'm not sure what you're implying, but the fact that he attended on scholarship has been widely reported and is easily verified via the Internet. No, Punahou does not accept food stamps in payment. It does, however, give scholarships to worthy students who could not otherwise attend.

Posted by Bobbi May 29, 08 03:54 PM
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If Hillary is the stronger candidate then she would be winning. Barack has the ability to reach out to all people, he has proven that. The Republicans know Barack is the stronger candidate, that is why they tried so hard to help Hillary win.
Senator Obama has had to compete against Hillary, Republicans, Right wing media and has still won. If Hillary couldn't win with all that help, how could she win in November?

Posted by Gary May 29, 08 04:10 PM
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If Hillary is the stronger candidate then she would be winning. Barack has the ability to reach out to all people, he has proven that. The Republicans know Barack is the stronger candidate, that is why they tried so hard to help Hillary win.
Senator Obama has had to compete against Hillary, Republicans, Right wing media and has still won. If Hillary couldn't win with all that help, how could she win in November?

Posted by Gary May 29, 08 04:14 PM
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Ok, we got Hillary out of the way. Now it is time to move the leftest Obama off the political stage. McCain has his problems, but I put more trust in a man of his character than Obama, and especially Hillary and Bill.

Posted by Jeff in Orlando May 29, 08 04:54 PM
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jmm is xenophobic.

Posted by Harvey Brinson May 29, 08 05:06 PM
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Both democrat candidates lie, cheat, are either sexist or racist, would severely cripple our energy companies, embolden the enemy, harm our corporations, open the flood gates to illegals, would turn us into a third world country in the name of global warming, continue to reward the lazy, hang out with criminals and worse, and would sink our world leading health care system. How do I know? I read the posting from the lib democrats.

Posted by v racer May 29, 08 05:08 PM
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Read her letter and memo referenced in the article. No only does she selectively count votes, not only does she not mention the groups of people that voted for the other candidate... she goes on and on about how important it is that she is the first WOMAN.. and how the people grab her arm and the 90 year old ladies saying how important it is for a WOMAN to win. Give me a freakin' break. That is part of her argument.
You won't hear this crap from Obama, but has anyone figured out that it would be just as significant for someone with Black roots to become president. That there was a time when Blacks were not allowed to vote.... How the hell can Hillary use that argument and then claim she is not playing the gender card.. and how can she even attempt to use such an argument against a candidate that would mark just as significant moment in history if he wins. Ohh wait.. I know how.. she is a power hungry cheater, lier, and manipulator. And are we "working class whites" really believe she can relate to us. Give me a break.

Posted by jespo May 29, 08 05:13 PM
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You Hillary's supporters, when actually will all grow faster than your mentor. You are all fond of being Neagative and Undestimating your opponents. So also you always full of 'I don't think , this or that for Obama. The samething you look at Hillary who She can do this and that. You never like to face The Reality of Life and follow up with the Wind of New Changes blowing up in America for another direction to be followed rather than the Politics of 'As usual'.

Mind you, we are in the World of Dynamism and as our Lives are changing so also the Political Lives of individual and as the people of America are deciding and yet to decide, and when they finally decide, there should be no Grudges, even
if the DNC steals it for Hillary. God forbids bad things. I am only for the Good
Wishes of Americans to prevail;s, so You Super Delegates wash out. Do the Right things expected of you by the Vast majority of American Peolple, that way you shall be remembered and respected for your Exc ellent Decision by carrying the CVBOICE of the MASSEs who had put Obama in the path of the Democratic Presiential Nomination 2008.

Go Obama and beware of any Threat from your opponents behaving badly, my god shall protect you, Mr President of America to be come after the FALL Election.

Good Luck to you True Democrats, The Independents and the Truely Converted Republicans

Posted by Roy June 1, 08 12:55 PM
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IT'S THE WAR, STUPID!

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