Despite disavowals, push for 'dream ticket'
Hillary Clinton's and Barack Obama's campaigns today firmly knocked down reports that her people are in contact with his people about being his running mate.
UPDATE: Clinton, herself, told the Sioux Falls Argus Leader editorial board today that there have not been any V.P. talks and that she is not planning any such discussions, the Associated Press is reporting.
"It is flatly untrue and it is not anything I'm entertaining. It is nothing I have planned and it is nothing I am prepared to engage in. I am still vigorously campaigning."
Still, a citizens group is hoping for a repeat of 2004: It started an online petition for Senator John F. Kerry to pick John Edwards, and he did.
Now, Citizens Consent has a website for a petition calling on Obama to select Clinton.
"Barack Obama’s leadership has inspired a new generation to participate in politics. Hillary Clinton’s experience and perseverance will strengthen the ticket," the petition says. "We ask you to sign our petition calling for Barack Obama as President and Hillary Clinton as Vice President, a ticket that will be unbeatable this November."
Also, Senator Dianne Feinstein of California, a staunch Clinton supporter, said today that she believes that if Obama becomes the nominee he should select Clinton as his running mate, the Associated Press reported.
"I think as this race has emerged each one of them has garnered a different constituency and different states, and therefore when you put the two of them together it forms, I believe, the strongest ticket," she told the AP. "Women feel very strongly about Hillary and African-Americans feel very strongly about Barack, and the election results show that, and the young versus old, the higher educated versus the working person ... All these things are sort of separated out into one or the other so there is a logic in combining the two constituences."
Public opinion polls and exit polls of voters have also shown support for the so-called dream ticket, but many pundits and Democrats don't think it will happen. That doesn't deter Citizens Consent.
"Citizen involvement is a cornerstone of Senator Obama's campaign, and frankly, a foundation of our democracy. We've seen millions of new voters get involved this campaign season. People believe their voices can make a difference, and that's what DraftObamaClinton.com is about," the group's co-founder Jim Spencer, a Boston-based political consultant, said in a statement.



Dear Fellow Americans,
Our Greatgrand Nation, the United States of America,
is facing and will face very critical, substantial
"Challenges" in the coming months, years, and decades.
It is imperative that we the people of the America
become interested, involved, and engaged in choosing
and voting for our next President.
The following criteria will guide and help us to a
right candidate. The candidate we choose must have
following characteristics:
1. A clear, candid " Vision and Mission" for our
Nations present and future.
2. A " Strong Character and significant
Integrity".
3. A sound and sustained "Presidential Temperament"
and " Judgment".
4. Less "Washington exposure" and "real
connectivity with the people and future
generation".
5. One who "Inspires us up" rather than
"Tears us Down or divides us".
6. One who is not based on sexism,
racism,regionalism,ageism, or any other ism and as
well as one who attempts to " bring us together ".
7. A foreign policy of mainly "USA Centric".
In my professional, political and personal opinion,
the only candidate that meets all the above
characteristics and has shown consistent
coolness, calmness, and connectedness { PRESIDENTIAL
TEMPERAMENT } is Senator Barack Obama.
As an independent registered voter since 1980, I voted
for Carter, voted for Reagan, voted for First Bush,
and second Bush in 2000 and in the process lost
interest in Washington politics to the point where i
stopped voting. Getting disinterested and disgusted in
our political process and stopping voting was a very
very bad decision in any circumstance, particularly
under present circumstances.
This time we can not afford to stay on the sidelines
and let "Washington" stay the same. We can not afford
to allow our Greatgrand Nation to become less than
what we are, what we were and what we can be.
We need to send a clear, careful and candid message to
the world and sometimes 24-hour partisan divisive
media, that We the American people will set the agenda
for our future. America and Americans will be back.
These partisan media outlets are trying and will try
their best to deprive, decieve,dupe, and derail us.
Let us stay involved, engaged, and express our opinion
freely and vote. Our Nation will get it right this
time
to protect, preserve, and promote our future.
Some of these partisan media and pundits are trying
their best to deny us a better future and continue
focusing on our weaknesses to generate a bitter future
for us and our Greatgrand Nation. Our nation's people
will see thru. Unfortunately our Greatgrand Nation's
people are persistently and constantly subjected to
this "Psychological Terrorism" without common people’s
knowledge.
The common and regular people do not have time to see
thru and sort thru this psychological terrorism
perpetuated by some of these partisan media outlets.
I find it tragic, unfortunate, and sad [ They probably
do not care about our Greatgrand Nation ]as they claim
that they do it in the interest OF our Greatgrand
Nation.
We the Americans should not and will not to allow
some of these partisan media outlets to
psychologically
terrorize, traumatize and silence us this time nor
any other time in future.
I am sure that we will get it right this
time and elect Senator Obama as our next President.
Let us remember that our Greatgrand nation consists of
family, friends,fellowships, faith, funds,foundation,
fun, and future with fairness and freedom and without
fear, favor, or failure .
We can not afford to lose any of the above. Let us
stand up, be counted, save and rebuild our Greatgrand
Nation for centuries to come. I am sure our Greatgrand
nation andits diverse people. will reclaim, regain and
restore the global economic, social, moral, and power
status of USA.
God Bless our Great grand Nation and its diverse
people.
Our Greatgrand nation needs present and future
stability, security, safety,sustained progress and
restoration of our due status in this perilous Global
World at all levels.
Yours sincerely,
COL.[retd] A.M.Khajawall M.D.
Forensic Psychiatrist.
Disabled American Veteran.
Las Vegas Nevada.
Cell: 951-505-6975
obama & clinton will be a ticket i will vote for,if she is not on i will not support another.
Col., please take this as constructive criticism. Quotes and capitalization do not signify what you seem to think they do. Please consider consulting a grammar and usage guide, regarding their use, before writing further in a public forum on any topic you seek to positively influence.
I've lost all respect for Senator Dianne Feinstein of California. How out of touch with the obvious can a person be?
Two things:
1. Do we really want Slick Willy back in the Whitehouse?
2. Would Obama die a "mysterious" death thrusting Hillary into the number 1 spot?
Hillary, the Queen of Spin and a Legend in Her Own Mind!
http://klintons.com
Type your comment here...As a Republican family who is actually planning to vote
for Obama unless he slips on a banana peel we will not vote for him if Hillary is on the ticket with him. Hillary will be that banana peel,pure and simple. He would have to be less than ready for the presidency if he chooses her as hios running mate.
The best comment I've seen on this "dream ticket" is that if Obama picks Hillary Clinton for his vice president he'd best hire a taster.
Greetings, I've posted the following message to Senator Obama's campaign, and I know of no better way to attempt to get it out than to repeat it across sites. It is not spam - it is conviction:
Greetings,
I am a strong supporter of Barack Obama and a donor [content on amounts edited for public version of this letter]. Despite great ideological differences, I believe Senator Obama provides a great hope to save us from absurd partisan division and the general unethical and bad faith discourse which has grown like a cancer on the body politic over the last couple decades.
However, Sen. Obama will almost certainly lose my vote (and Sen. McCain - whom I also respect - will gain it) if Sen. Clinton is chosen as VP, because I cannot abide putting a person a heartbeat away from the presidency when said person has as recently as this very year used Nixonian-style tactics - with even more blatant race-card playing - and has demonstrated a history of unethical and unnecessarily vicious political dealings. I plead with Sen. Obama to find a way to work through this without being forced into taking on one of the most craven political figures of our times (at the national level). Allowing a Sen. Clinton vice-presidency would be a betrayal of the very foundation of Sen. Obama's campaign's premise. Thank you for, I trust, forwarding this to the correct parties and considering this. I would hope that at least my comments would be posted prominently in whatever office they end up in, with my explicit understanding such is just indicating my opinion and not necessarily the candidate's or his staff's.
Best of luck,
Wilson Zorn
should it be an Obama clinton ticket I will not vote I rather stay home and suffer four more years with Mccain, I refuse to see those Clintons in the White House, I hope Obama is smart enough to realize the consequences
I Find Clinton(s) very very untrustworthy
She has Sanjayad the Primaries(remember Sanjaya from American Idol)
She has Mocked the system
Taken Full Advantage of her previlages and abused it, being the former First Lady
She has Lied all the way
she to me is like the Gum stuck to sole of your shoe ,just does not leave.
an Irritation in your throat
an Itch between the buttocks.
I have lost complete Respect for both Clintons,it just shows their senility
and if she still dose'nt understand the Math , she is nowhere close to being even the janitor on the hill.
Obama,
Do what's right for your country and your candidacy. Don't let those old ppl Clintons, Feinstein, Boxer... put you around.
Young Dems
God willing - I will have to hold my nose and vote for Obama if Clinton is on his ticket. He can do so much better.
I do not want her one heartbeat away...I don't trust her!
Amen to what Mr. Khajawall has posted!
OH MY GOD what a terrible idea!
It would be good for Hillary on an obvious level, sure, as by this point she MUST be aware that without some seriously shady moves there is no way she's getting the nomination... but even for her, it's not ideal. It's not what she was looking for and her accepting the position would make her look pathetic and hypocritical due to how strongly she's stated that Obama absolutely CANNOT be President. She's going to make statements like that and then become party to his doing so? Ill-advised, at best.
It would be TERRIBLE for Obama. Yes, true, MAYBE it would gain him some votes from die-hard Hillary fans. But it would certainly hurt the level of support that he is receiving from those who HATE Hillary - a group that is increasing in number every time she opens her mouth. Additionally, Hillary has shown in no uncertain terms what she is willing to sacrifice and how low she is willing to sink in order to gain attention and support, and to undermine her opponents, especially Obama. What reason can possibly be given to believe that she will not use her position to gain personal advantage and power in a way that will overshadow and undermine the activities of Obama, as the President, as well as of the White House as a whole? While I will not try to, in any terms, say that I am a Hillary supporter, I myself cannot imagine a situation where this does NOT happen... where Hillary does NOT misuse the position and manipulate herself into the person who is primarily televised and speaking and taking credit for decisions. The woman has far too much pride to play second fiddle and far too small an ethical compass to do so in spite of her pride, regardless of the effect it will have on our country, our government, or our president.
Obama/ANYBODY BUT HILLARY 08. Seriously.
"Clinton, herself, told the Sioux Falls Argus Leader editorial board today that there have not been any V.P. talks and that she is not planning any such discussions, the Associated Press is reporting."
This is good to hear, because we don't want her (and Billary) on the ticket. It would be a very bad idea.
COL.[retd] A.M.Khajawall M.D.’s repeated and identical postings at various locations on the internet are becoming very annoying.
Although I can understand why many believe that adding Hillary to Obama's ticket would be 'healing' and 'unifying' in terms of winning in November, few are discussing the long term challenges that a Hillary-Bill vice presidency would pose for Barack, who is trying to 'turn the page' and start a 'new chapter' of American history.
I believe it would be far better for Barack to engage a strong Clinton supporter, or even a Chuck Hegel, to balance the ticket, bring in independents and have none of the Clinton baggage weighing him down and distracting him.
We need to believe that Obama can win without Hillary; I believe he can. And please consider the following 4 to 8 years of trying to govern!!!
eig
COL.[retd] A.M.Khajawall M.D.-
I could not have said it better. I concur.
This is not the right time for Obama to be President and thats from a real concern Independent.I heard a voice speaking to my ears and in my heart saying his time to be the President of this nation is not now but in couple of years ahead.He needs more time to study the Constitution and the meaning thereof and what it really mean spiritually.Obama is a devout Muslim and he does not fully understand why God reveal this nation to the world centuries later for a man of God and a man of deep faith in him and a devout Christian follower is worth to be President of this the Promise Land the voice said.He is indeed a good citizen but the adversay is waiting patiently for Barrack Hussein Obama to carry out his evil agenda but I will not let it happen to some of my faithful people in the land the voice continue to speak to me.
Now that Hillary has invoked the "A" word in reference to what happened in 1968 with Bobby Kennedy, how can anyone think that Hillary could seriously contribute to this Democratic ticket? Barack Obama's next biggest challenge(besides the vp selection) is to stay safe for the duration. Having your opponent throw around the "A" word does not make the campaign trail a safer place. I'm sorry, but Hillary's justification for using the word is paper thin. In fact, in view of the health crisis facing Senator Kennedy, it is hard to believe she used the reference at all.What 's next?
While Clinton and Obama slightly differ on policies they differ greatly on vision and how to get there. Obama has a vision of a people-powered government; Hillary does not. Obama believes in diplomacy, Hillary's idea of diplomacy is too similar to Bush's. Obama represents change, Hillary is steeped in the established ways of Washington. To choose Hillary as his veep would negate everything Obama campaigned on especially change.
Furthermore Hillary is not the type to take second-chair. And there is the chance that she and Bill will undermine Obama at every turn. Moreover those opposed to HRC will come out in droves. We will hear the same arguments as we did in the 1990s ad naseum not to mention other distasteful things which all but guarantee a loss in November.
Obama earned the right to choose his VP. To take that away from him is unfair and disrespectful. I trust his judgment to pick the person who shares the same vision and goals as well as enhance and compliment his candidacy. Whomever he picks I will respect that decision. If that is HRC fine, but it is Obama's choice to make.
Adding HRC to ticket would make two elections that the Clintons have cost the Democrats. If Bill had acted like a grownup Al Gore would be finishing his 2nd term and the world would be a different place. Please let this woman find the grace to leave the race before she wreaks the party.
This is in response to a comment by skmj, who said the following about Sen. Obama: "He needs more time to study the Constitution and the meaning thereof and what it really mean spiritually.Obama is a devout Muslim.."
1. He taught Constitutional Law. Are you saying he understands the constitution less than McCain or HRC? What is your basis for saying he needs to spend some more time with the constitution? I will admit Obama does not carry a pocket version with him everywhere he goes like Dennis Kucinich...
2. Obama has said over and over and over he is not Muslim. Don't you think all the political news shows would tell you he was Muslim if he truly was Muslim?
3. People who believe he is a Muslim (and don't bother checking for facts) will not vote for Obama regardless of who his VP is. (That is probably 40% of KY & WV).
...In regards to the VP question, I hope Obama chooses Sen. Webb from Virginia. He has lots of military experience, is not a "Washington insider", a former republican turned democrat, and popular with blue collar workers in his state. I think Webb would help deliver Virginia - a big catch for the general election.
When Sen. Obama cited the three qualities he was looking for in a VP, I believe that integrity and consistency were two of them. Why should he choose someone who has tried every trick in the book to undermine his candidacy and who has a penchant for outright lies which the press generously calls misspeaking? Would Sen. Feinstein want to run with any individual of that caliber? The RFK incident (repeated) indicated to everyone but the most diehard of Sen. Clinton's supporters that she was totally unsuited for the post of Obama's running mate. There are a host of better qualified candidates. And finally it's actually quite unusual in history for a nominee to choose their top competition as a running mate, so let's put this puppy to rest.
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