Gaffes, tall tales, and deceptions

Wow - the DNC really slam dunked that one (note sarcasm).

#1 is ridiculous. Of course McCain knows who is in charge of Iran. It was Obama who never refuted the comment that he would meet with Ahmadinejad, who is THE PRESIDENT OF IRAN. Ayatullah Ali Khamenei is the supreme leader...but unfortunately Obama didn't know that, so he continued to support the statement saying that he would meet with Ahmadinejad. Also - Ahmadinejad represents Iran at the U.N. which McCain pointed out at a press conference. It can safely be assumed that the leader Obama is referring to is therefore Ahmadinejad.

#2 - again...obviously McCain knows the difference. It was a slip of the mouth - saying Sunni instead of Shi-ite or vice-versa. It wasn't a misstatement or a gaffe, because it was immediately corrected in the same sentence.

#3 - no he doesn't. Even I refer to the two states as Czechoslavakia...knowing full well that it is now Czech and Slovakia. Doesn't mean that he thinks it still exists. They're really reaching here...

#4 - That's a matter of opinion. If Barack wants to refute it, he should first accept McCain's invitations to visit. Oh wait...he already denied the offer.

#5 - Again, matter of opinion...not a gaffe.

#6 - Har har...good one...har har. Where is the gaffe in that?

#7 - What pork would that be? I'm assuming that this is again, a matter of opinion.

#8 - A matter of differing opinion between two parties. Ugh - Are they even trying?

#9 - I could say the same about Obama.

#10 - He said that the bill wasn't amnesty...and it wasn't.

That was pathetic.

The latest rumor on the Internet is that Obama's uncle was in the Navy and not the Army. I guess it's too much to expect the media to look into this, after all they are probably too busy sharpening their axes for the next go round with Hillary.

John McCain's immigration bill WAS NOT amnesty. It offered an alternative route to citizenship for qualified immigrants.

Media check the facts. What a laugh. They are mostly ignorant and bias.

I would take Obama's mis-recollection of the concentration camp his grandmothers brother liberated over Mccain utter cluelessness over Shia/Sunni, Iran/Iraq. This is the sort of colossal clueless mind numbing stupidity and ignorance which got us into Iraq in the first place. Why cant the republicans find someone with functioning neurons. They had Romney, but evidently his cluefulness scared the hell out of the clueless brigade.

Obama #7 - Called his Grandmother a racist

McCain #11 - He's old and probably wears a diaper.

Both lists are pretty lame.

But the defense of #2 above is funny- the correction about Al-Qaeda in Iran did come quickly... from Joe Lieberman! It was both a mistatement and a gaffe.

And #8 isn't a matter of opinion; show me the data (hint- you might be able to make a case with the capital gains tax, but for income taxes, forget it).

How petty... who cares?!

Fred Dobbs, 5:04 pm post:

On Memorial Day weekend, Obama said that his uncle liberated prisoners at Auschwitz. The Republicans picked him up on that. Turned out it was his great-uncle (grandmother's brother). Someone pointed out that the Russians liberated Auschwitz. Then we were told it was a part of Buchenwald. Then we heard the rumor that his great-uncle was in the Navy instead, (which didn't liberate concentration camps). That rumor is apparently true. I enclose an internet page.

How's Obama going to explain great uncle Charlie Payne, the "Auschwitz Liberator" having been in the NAVY?

Did the Navy drive a boat up on shore, like one of those tourist "Duck" contraptions that float and drive?

(The Navy didn’t liberate concentration camps.)

Here is the actual link to the information about Obama's white Great Uncle:

Charles W. Payne, born 1924, enlisted 10Nov42, NAVY, 6293977 Registered, order #12019, Kansas City, Wyandotte Co., Board #4

http://www.kshs.org/genealogists/militar...

So it seems Obama's great uncle liberated Buchenwald from his ship in the Pacific.

The information is correct...here is Obama's family tree link and it shows the same name
http://genealogy.about.com/od/aframertre...

This article came from this link:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080528064332AANetsd

So, how much of what Obama said is true? None of it.

I do not mean any offense to his great-uncle, who may well have been heroic in what he did in WWII, or to the Navy. I merely want to point out that not one word of what Obama said was true, which is no surprise to me.

Lightnin'

Niether one of these of these goofballs seems qualified to be our next president.

I wonder what the job and housing markets are like on some out of the way island in the South Pacific because whichever one gets elected, things are going to get really bad here in the states. Maybe it's time to move.

Wow, you people are nuts. His great uncle SERVED IN WWII. Respect that and stop trying to put a spin on it. Obama was speaking on memorial day, so why wouldn't he honor hos great uncle? Have some respect and talk about actual issues.

Breaking news at Washington Post: Obama campaign's co-director in Puerto Rico has been exposed as a washington-based lobbyist for the Puerto Rican government. An ethics problem here?

Or just a reminder of the parable of glass houses, as in if you live in one, don't throw stones.

In my comment #9 above, I now have some reason to believe that it may not be correct, as a Charles T. Payne was in the unit that liberated Ohrdruf, and may possibly be Obama's great-uncle, despite the middle-initlal question. I would delete that entry if I could, at least until I get further clarification.
That being said, people who served during that time, in that area, know more about war, and people, and service to country, than any of us could imagine, or would want to know. I believe that Mr. Payne would have little use for Obama due to his long association with the racist, anti-American, anti-white "Rev." Wright, and also with William Ayers and his wife, who bombed American government buildings, and said recently that they wish they had done more. Probably Mr. Payne would not speak to Obama, which would be understandable. He probably would not like the fact that Obama could find nothing bad to say about Wright for a long time, but said he was shocked by his grandmother's (Payne's sister's)comments about being afraid of some young black men.

Lightnin'

Obama's gaffes are of a personal nature while McCains' concern real policy issues for the US
More Gaffes (for McCain)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

The RNC cannot seem to find much from Obama's 12 year elected record
1. 800+ bills passed in 8 years in IL senate including healthcare reform for 150,000 blue-collar parents
www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/07/29/us/politics/20070730_OBAMA_GRAPHIC.html

2. His consistency on renewable energy/environment
** Jan. 12, 2007: Co-sponsorship with McCain/Lieberman - climate change bill to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by two-thirds by 2050
** Jan 17, 2008: Policy approaches to SF Chronicle
http://cdn.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2008/01/18/MNSNUH7GC.DTL&o=0
** Feb 13, 2008 Wisconsin auto-workers, economy speech
http://wclo.com/podcasts/wclo-news-features/2008/feb/13/obama-janesville/

3. In 4 yrs US Senate he got real change started with by crossing the isle with Coburn, Lugar, Hagel, McCain
**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law),
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.
** Honest Leadership and Open Govt. Act (became law)
** joined Chuck Hagel (R-NE) in introducing legislation to reduce risks of nuclear terrorism (partial passage)
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/04/obamas-outreach.html