More preacher problems for Obama

Why is Hillary even a topic in this Church? This preaching politics from the pulpit flies in the face of the church's nonprofit status. Additionally, such rhetoric emphasizes how "race" keeps being raised when that is not the issue, but rather is used as a red herring to appease Obama supporters.

Senator Obama has too many problems to be a viable Democratic Candidate for the General Election- his inexperience, his associations like the Reverend Wright, Rezko, and now this new Pastor--
Leave it to the Democrats--when this election is theirs to lose- they will lose it by choosing the weakest most inexperienced candidate. It's up to the Superdelegates- the Party Elders to make the choice. It is amazing that they would choose Senator Obama.

Do we really want this man in the White-house?

Some church you got there Obama. I think you owe Hillary an apology and at the other half of the Democratic ticket, especially if you want her supporters to vote for you at this point.. I know I won't any other way.

I wonder if the air and energy in that Church make people say crazy stuff and Obama absorbs this air for more than 20 years. I think he is working real hard to suppress crazy stuff, long enough to a period that people have no other avenue but just to ride it out for the next four years.

Senator Obama has attended this church for 20 years, but none of this ever went on before?

And tell me again before I go to vote in November --- why do Barack Obama, Michelle Obama and their kids feel they still need to be members of this church, let alone be friends with this priest (who was a guest speaker at this church)? We know about the former pastor of TUCC, Rev. Wright, but now the new pastor seems to think it's perfectly o.k. to host this type of behavior. Men behaving badly should not be rewarded.

Wow! As a United Church of Christ pastor myself I am ashamed and embarrassed by these supposedly "spirit-filled," prophetic pastors who seem to continually get "carried away" at the sound of their own voices. I do NOT believe they are preaching the Gospel or the Word of God in these moments! There truly is a thin line between prophecy and human pride! Something all clergy must remember.

I am appalled at this man who calls himself a Priest. As a Catholic, I feel he can say what he wants, but turn that collar around and get out of the church first. The worst part was seeing all those people cheering when he mocked Senator Clinton. We will not forget it.

Give me a break. All this attention being given to preachers is sand in the eyes to keep us from finding out more about Obama's connection with organized crime through campaign contributors like Rezko. Who better to have in your back pocket than a Presidential candidate with degrees from Columbia University and Harvard Law School who has espoused the ideal in two books only to ignore or to gloss over the real?

Fox can't play the video enough. Believe me, as I tell you; it will receive more than fifteen minutes on FIXED NEWS. I’ve seen it already today and tonight than enough. Father Pfleger is a respected priest in Chicago.

I respect and admire Barack even more so for not allowing this type of characterization.

Questions: Why does Fox keep their cameras at Trinity Church?

Why do they harass/interview the Church members to ascertain where Barack was in hopes of calling Barack a liar? Or could it be a gotcha moment?

Why must FIXED NEWS harass members in hospices in order to prove Barack was at the Church during the time Fox played for the world Rev. Wright’s video all day, everyday?
Are you going to claim Father Pfleger a racist, Muslim, or Marxist?

Wolf- man what a hypocrite and loser you are. How dare you not advise Hillary to apologize to Barack for suggesting assassination!
Enough is umhh, enough. Father Pfleger’s name is not on the ballot.

I don't think that priest is faking it. I really believe he thinks he's entitled to preaching a crappy D I V I S I V E message. “Black. Black. Black. Whiiiite!”

So city.

Yuck.

Why would anyone with brains believe any apology that came out of the mouth of that hateful Priest?. Obama's response is the political correct thing to say,but can we believe that he means what he says?,NO!.This is a man so obsessed with having power that he will say just about anything that makes him "look good",but for him to have associated with these kinds of people is questionable. Obama has formed meaningful relationships with these men & now for him to make believe that he did not know the content of their character is bogus. After having spent so many years in the company of these people & getting indoctrinated in an enviornment of hate,what do we really know about Obama? . The reality is for him to have stayed around a Congregation that cheered,clapped in exultation from hateful expressions sends only ONE message & that is he was in full agreement with the program. Now that it's politically correct for him to dislodge himself he has no qualms about doing so. Can America take such a leap of faith to trust a man no one knows much about? I would say absolutely not!.

Sad,sad,sad,these preacher are made for TV cameras.

I guess black or white, it doesn't matter. Some of these preachers are just plain lunatics.

How is this Obama's problem? Did he write the sermon?

This is disappointing, though; I was a Pfleger fan due to his smackdown of Fox News: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0wvQMqSzTM

Remember the first time Hillary was in a knot in a huge meeting and referencing The Obama subsitive wonderful speeches and she pointed to heaven and mockingly said "oh sure, the heavens are going to open, the celestrial choirs are going to be singing and there will be LIGHT". So I ask you, when the good Priest mocked Hillary and then apologized - WHAT ABOUT HILLARY APOLOGIZING FOR MOCKING GOD and asking for forgiveness for THOU SHALT NOT MOCK THE LORD THY GOD AND WOE TO SHE THAT DOES.

Clinton does not have the moral authority needed to fulfill the Office of the President of the United States.

VOTERS BEWARE

I really don't get it. In 12 years of elected life, Obama would have made approximately 4000 "personal friends" at the rate of only one per day. (After all he legislated in/for a large state that has 14 million people) How can Obama be held responsible for half a dozen that have said or done extreme things?

I would expect McCain (due to his length of service alone) to have hundreds of questionable friends. Why is American culture only focusing on a few of Obama's? Its for the simple reason that people don't know HIM and so given in to their fears/suspicions of his ethnicity/race. Obama's own 12 year elected record shows his values much more than the words of a few associates of the thousands he has known.

1. 800+ bills passed in 8 years in IL senate including healthcare reform for 150,000 blue-collar parents
www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/07/29/us/politics/20070730_OBAMA_GRAPHIC.html

2. In 4 yrs US Senate he got real change started with by crossing the isle with Coburn, Lugar, Hagel, McCain
**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law),
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.
** Honest Leadership and Open Govt. Act (became law)
** joined Chuck Hagel (R-NE) in introducing legislation to reduce risks of nuclear terrorism (partial passage)
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/04/obamas-outreach.html

3. His consistency on renewable energy/environment
** Jan. 12, 2007: Co-sponsorship with McCain/Lieberman - climate change bill to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by two-thirds by 2050
** Jan 17, 2008: Policy approaches to SF Chronicle
http://cdn.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2008/01/18/MNSNUH7GC.DTL&o=0
** Feb 13, 2008 Wisconsin auto-workers, economy speech
http://wclo.com/podcasts/wclo-news-features/2008/feb/13/obama-janesville/

4. He judges men's intentions, the time and the place, not just their words. In 2002, Saddam Hussein provoked this nation in to war with just words - “this will be the mother of all wars" Today's nuts like Iran's Ahmadinajad, N. Korea's Kim Jong Il and even Russia's Putin all trying to provoke America. A real leader needs to judge intent before committing this country to rash action or even categorical condemnation. We saw this ability in Obama's speech on the war in 2002 AND in his reactions to Rev. Wright.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama's_Iraq_Speech

I finally get it. Father Pfleger preaches black liberation theology.

**Black Liberation Theology:
WATCH THIS ENTIRELY ASAP:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5921629142284078851

Same video with article attached:
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/29/the-christian-heresy-of-barack-and-michelle-obama/

Barack Obama cannot be anywhere NEAR the White House.

This is a racial double standard. This is anti-American and anti-white hatred. This must not be tolerated. I cannot believe Obama has power over the mass media and he is buying the white house.

Sooo what, now we're to expect Obama to say Heck yeah, that's what she thinks. Come on this guy is evil with a capital "E-V-I-L"!

If Michael Pfleger were truly a religious person he wouldnt saying things like this

IF they offended? What kind of an apology is this? A disingenuous one...

When will everyone finally get it through their heads? Obama has sat in the pews of a church that is filled with racists and anti-Americans for MORE THAN TWENTY YEARS. He IS a practicing member of Black Liberation Theology.

Obama is not "new politics"- he is the epitome of "old shadow politics". Divisive, racist, inexperienced, dishonest, race baiting, and his wife is worse! Is this what this country needs? I think not.

If Father Pfegler's opinion that there was a presumption of entitlement is not accurate then everyone who commented on Senator Clinton's early entry must have had it wrong. I am still amazed by the gasps of white Americans when the subject of their mindset is brought to the fore. For a drug addict or an alcoholic to kick the habit they must first admit they have a problem. White Americans will never deal honestly with their own detachment from reality because they are always the ones who frame the debate as to whether a psychosis exists in the first place. It's a classic case of the inmates running the asylum

This will come back on Hillary again as just another gaff just for cheap news headlines.

It is No wonder Hillary is losing this Democratic Nomination Race, her campaign team must be spending each and every minute daily to try and throw some dirt at Barack Obama, how sad, instead of working out an exit which may save Hillary some face and respect, it is no wonder much of the world media is portraying her as a Joker! Barack Obama quickly stated that he did not agree with the comments made, but that was not sufficient for the bitter old lady Hillary. The last time she tried to smear Barack Obama she could not give up, she just wanted to keep putting the knife in and in the end it put voters off her, this shows clearly how her strategy and campaign team does not seem to know how to operate in Modern Politics.

I am a committed Christian but as I have stated from the start when the Wright story broke, I do not go to Church for the sake of a Pastor or this case Priest, it is my Faith, I can't be held responsible, often when I may not present for what my Pastor or Priest may say. The Church will still be there long after a pastor moves on, so don't expect a congregation and worshippers to leave, adults disagree and say so openly to each other and accept that, there is a Greater One that will Judge!

i just don't get it why some people are making it racial. We are Americans whether black or white or whatever. It is sad to see the politics is as dirty in America as anywhere else.

I am sick of "leaders" saying any hurtful thing they wish then "apologize". They KNOW it is already on the airways.

I am also sick this Democratic "primary" is not a vote of the people but an appointment.

i think he's being a bit unfair and went a little over the top but this is kind of funny. and ... everyone is slamming hillary, who cares if this guy does it too?

That's the final nail in Obama's coffin.

from Obama's church.

It confuses me that Father Pfleger's remarks are characterized as 'racist' by many media outlets. Perhaps it's not unpatriotic if a military veteran criticizes military tactics, perhaps it's not sexist for women to dislike or reject Hillary's campaign for the presidency, and perhaps it's not racist for a white priest to voice his perceptions about another white person.

In either regard, this is not Obama's problem, and I wish that he and McCain would stop pandering to people who want to ascribe others' opinions to them. ...like McCain actually has to say he doesn't Hitler was a God-send, or Obama actually has to say that the government created the aids virus.

Really?!?

It is obvious if Sen. Obama gets the presidency, it will be years of racial tension and turmoil, with these crazed pastors coming out of the woodwork with their bashing of white people. Apparently, an opportunity is perceived with Obama to turn the tables in demonizing whites and relegating them to second class status. With Obama, it seems it will be the dominance of a minority, and this country will be bogged down in and distracted by racial politics.

It appears Obama is tethered to pastors who have a problem with the white race and this is the result of his 20-plus years association with his church.

No other presidential candidate has had a problem similar to what is unfolding with Obama.

Obviously, Sen. Clinton is the presidential candidate to make real progress in leading America forward in a new direction with progressive change for all Americans.

Well Michael Pfleger , I have to thank you very much for that message. I have never voted republican in my like , I will now even if it is wrong . Your actions are wrong and two wrongs don't make a right. Obama i was going to vote for you but i can't vote for someone surrounded by people with that much hate and non compassion, so the republican party is just as cruel as you seem to be. I can't vote for someone raising to power like hitler did at the cost of other people.

You know what I was not handed anything in my life. Neither was my parents and I am a white american. I put myself through school paid for everything and I am intitled to nothing except what I work hard for in my life. People need to get over this racist bullshit that is being spouted. get off your ass and work for what you want.

As a practical Catholic who loves and tries to use the teaching of Jesus I was very diappointed and offended by this Priests' remarks and attitude. As a current and former head of several Catholic Organizations I can assure you this is not the attitude of the average lay Catholic . To hear a message of hate and anger from one who should be a protecter of our faith I find it deeply disturbing that a leader of our faith who should be speading the message of Love, Peace and Harmony somehow seems to have lost his moral compass. I feel this was an error in judgement that we all do from time to time and will pray for guidance and peace for this Brother.
Vivat Jesus

When you plan to be a POLITICIAN, you choose your friends, , mate, confidants, etc.. CAREFULLY!!! Other than family, they will not "attach" to anything, and for EVERY action you make, you must have PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY. Obama was just plain stupid, in the past, and although he's smarting up, but the past can come and bite you. I'm thinking, after presidential race, his political career is thru, the "center" can no longer trust him. He can get the left & far left to trust him again by explaining the fact that he's a "trojan horse" for the left and was "outed". He can write a couple of books, be a preacher, or a radical "mayor", who knows, for me, I WAS DEFINITELY going to vote for him, but, I've changed my mind, lost respect for him and his "hidden views"

Frankly, does ANYONE in GOOD conscience believe that Barack Obama should be held responsible for EVERYTHING ANY Pastor says?

If so, then John McCain should be held responsible for what his pastors John Hagee and Rod Parsley have said.

Attention readers! Most of the "Comments" expressing outrage are fake on one level or another.... Paid GOP bloggers and racist people make at least half of all anti-Obama "Comments" on these news stories.

I for one am more offended by the Iraq war being sold to us by an unscrupulous Republican administration, and by McCain backing it up.

Obama 2008!!

Am I missing something here.Father Pfleger does not belong to Obama's church and he's WHITE.

American Wake up before it is to late, some things are better left unsaid keep it to yourself or in private company.....

What is the problem with white America? I think that if you can't stand the heat, get out fire. The same fires that burned black folks homes and churches, the same fires that appeared in your eyes when you were lynching black folks , men , women and children for crimes you, yourself committed, or any other concocted slights or disrespect. This crap has been going on since slavery. Don't act like you don't know!! I know you've heard all the stories of the good ol' days at your grandparents knees. These stories have been passed down with pride for generations. And Father Pfleger is Wright. The folks that have all the legacys and the money and everything else that the good life can give them had it handed down to them on the backs of slaves. This is a REALITY !!! Now some of these whites were poor dirt farmers who came to scratch out an existence in the new country. THey were hard working and made a life for themselves , but when they found out that whites were better than black folks in the eyes of the establishment they too jumped on the band wagon so they could be excepted, even though they weren't much better than the slaves themselves and they began to feel, yes entitled. So you wonder why the preachers in the black churches have been railing for over 200 years, and why didn't somebody tell white America this was going on so they can send in psychologist and sociologist to observe this behavior,, which goes on any sunday morning all over the usa, the answer is it's none of your damn business. We don't tell you what to do in your churches, you don't tell us what to do in ours. I'v been a member of my church for 60 years and all the pastors had their own style of preaching, but they never minced words in the times of trouble, and they never tried to put pretty ribbons to on their sermons to sooth the faint of heart. I love the black pastors, and thank God for them !!!

Wow are you all serious!!!. Just how many people does Senator Obama have to apologize for??? How many of you have apologized for the words or actions of others ? I would bet not many and if you did what does your apology mean if you weren't the one who did or said the deed. It means nothing!!.
You all are hypocrites who are trying to hold this man accountable for the actions or words of others, when you know YOU would not hold yourself to the same standard regardless of being in the public eye, It is a double standard,. But don't fret all the minorites in this country are used to dealing with a double standard it has been happening since Columbus and his "gang" arrived. Hold the person that actually did the deed accountable for his or her own actions and words. If you allow this type of simpleness to determine your vote than you have serious issues, and if you do allow this to control your decision than you won't be voting for anyone, since all 3 of the candidates have had someone in their world that someone else considered controversial. Don't be a hypocrite

I am not a paid blogger but a concerned American. I can't believe Obama has gotten this far. I am worried for this country if he is elected. BEWARE AMERICA. Wake up....This candidate has surrounded himself with hate-mongers. As far as experience...He has none.....He rarely voted on anything to give us any indication of his positions....Over 100 times he acknowledged "present" while he didn't vote....how do you explain that....The Democrats in Washington are running the party into the ground..Clinton would be a far better choice for our president.....WAKE UP AMERICA.

Obama's NEW pastor introduced this priest to him. Became close enough to be appointed to yet another "religious advisory panel". Has since resigned. Sound familiar? Gimme a break. Obama's judgment is lacking. When is America going to wake up before it's too late. The whole church he attended for 20 YEARS was anti-White in rhetoric and spewed this crap weekly. What sermons did Obama sit through I want to know??? It's a pattern of racist, divisive speeches being delivered from the pulpit. Nothing new.

Are we that entranced by his charisma and personality that we can't be smart and see that the guy is just another politician surrounded by the wrong people?

It's astonishing to read through the number of posts here from people who still are willing to vote for this racial bigot.
If the black church teaches this hate towards white people, then a racial civil war is within the realm of possibilities.
If so, as a white man and a veteran, I say bring it on.

This is funny. Well, at least it puts to rest Obama's a Muslim. There are plenty of nutty Christians out there and it makes me happy to be unaffiliated with any religion.

All you people need to get a grip. The man wasn't even there and has no reason to apologize for something he didn't do. Also, Pf isn't running for office. Finally, when is Hillary going to apologize to Obama for hoping he is assassinated?.

gObama!

Yawn.

I am a lifelong Dem and these idiots will be why I vote for John McCain.

What facinates me is that when Wright "Damned America" and celebrated 911 as Americas "Just Deserves" Baracks fellow church memebers seemed pretty happy with those statments. Now Pflegers racist remarks are cheered by Baracks fellow church members. This is the same church that honored Farakhan.

Barack sat with these folks for nearly 20 years. WOW

This church is, and has been filled, with this hate speech for years. It is their mantra. Barack is deceitful when he says he has not been affected by this. It is in his bones!

now that is funny.... a white veteran says bring it on to a "racial civil war." Obama has NEVER said anything remotely racially charging... if ANYTHING he's tried to calm all you nuts down. After all the guy's parents are of 2 different colors. But don't count on the American public to realize that.

I'm amazed.... truly amazed at how juvenille and hateful so many of these comments are.

Obama did not say the words. People focus focus focus. Don't try to blame an honest, direct and good man that Obama is for the actions and words of others. He is not Hillary and Bill. We have been deceived by these two and try to focus and not repeat history with them. Open your eyes and vote Obama.

So many people commenting here have no idea what they're talking about. This guy is a Catholic priest; he's not a member of Obama's church. I'm sure Obama didn't invite the guy to speak--for all I know he's never even heard of the guy.

But people here are going to take something like this and let it conjure up all kinds of craziness. And as a result, we'll get four more years in Iraq, a new war in Iran, oppressive tax codes, diminished quality of life for those in the middle class, and an even more conservative Supreme Court.

The saying is "Don't cut off your nose to spite your face." Think about it.

Electing a president is serious business; please don't let it become trivial by getting worked up about bogus issues.

Yes. Black churches teach racial hate. White churches teach racial hate.

For whatever its worth, Black Liberation Theology has not helped blacks to seek more education (still the worst high school graduation rates) have fewer out-of-wedlock babies (black teens still have highest rates) or more unemployment (blacks have highest rates)...and so, living in a closed hate-filled world has not accomplished anything...

How can we equate this to Obama who as a boy cringed at his white granny's racial statements (his dad abandonded him at 2 years of age) and his decision as an adult to deeply associate himself and his family with a black racist preacher for 20 years until he decided to run for "higher" office?

This just in. A man who now works at Barak Obama's favorite hotdog stand (but didn't when he used to eat there) made an offensive ethnic joke yesterday. Obama should IMMEDIATELY rebuke this man and renounce his statements!! After all, anything anyone said that ever met with or saw or went to the same place as a candidate, the candidate shares their views. Makes sense right?

Hillary, on the other hand, should only apologize "if" people misinterpreted her statements about RFK or Bosnia.

As someone who has never responded to a blog before, I had to respond. Would someone please explain what is unfactual, inaccurate and not common knowledge to anyone who has watched this political campaign from the beginning? Every early media outlet spoke of Hillary Clinton's entitlement and presumptive nomination to the White House. Specifically because she is Bill's wife and had all the early money. This Catholic Priest said nothing more than the obvious...albeit in a theatrical and over the top way. And as for her being white...please! Ask all the pundits to honestly say why all the good folks from the mountains are voting for Hillary? And please.... save the ridiculous arguments that It has nothing to do with her being white. Again, where is the honesty!

Would people please look in the mirror and try to have a little honesty?

I have never read such a righteous blog before. Boston is renowned for its hatred and racism glad to see it's been passed on to the next generation. I am so surprised that I am reading it in black and white (NOT). Obama is responsible for words from his mouth, not Wright's or this latest pastor. All of you who are not voting for him, that's your prerogative, you would not have voted for him under any circumstance. It amazes me to read the references and the ways in which "he sat in that church for 20 years" is used as a measure of Obama's values, ethical, and moral codes. Some of you people live a lifetime around family, friends, and coworkers who make racist remarks and discriminate against others based on the color of their skin and you say nothing. Why so vocal now? Hypocrites

I'm not personally thrilled with any of the presidential options for this election year. I'm a registered democrat, and I echo the thoughts of many on this board - Obama SCARES me. I don't think there's an authentic bone in his body, and I think his associations - religious and otherwise - probably do reflect what's really in his heart.

His addictions also concern me - cocaine when he was younger and cigarettes now. He doesn't set a very good example for the young people in our country, and I don't think he should be elected to the top office in our country.

Funny how McCain denouced both of his pastors last week and nobody said a word about it. I don't suppose becuase they were white huh? You people all sicken me. How many black jokes have you recently told or heard only to jump on this forum and put someone else's words in Obamas mouth.

I am amazed by the Obama supporters here. How can you just ignore the fact that he and his wife have listened to and participated in these sermons for 20 YEARS! Of course he can't be blamed for what was said, but he CAN be blamed for LISTENING for 20 years! You can't listen to this BS for that long and not believe it! All his sweet speeches are just political necessities; he will say ANYTHING to get elected. Shame on you for believing him.
This man terrifies me!

Simply amazing and what a double standard, The problem with this priest is he used the word "white" in the context of his rant! Simply that's what the gist is all about. But keep in mind Hillary in an interview makes a casting call to "hard working americans" , er forgive me "hard working WHITE" americans" that is her base and that somehow was not offensive if you don't happen to be a hard working white american. Cmon now, everyone knows that was a call for her base, the wink wink factor to come out and support her. We know code words when we hear them! I think it is horrendous that somehow we have church and state intertwined! As far as I am concerned I don't care about the President's religious choice, as long as he/she leads the country and does an effective job. Take Bush evangelicals love him for his faith. Look at where our country is and how many have to die in a war that should not have been fought! People have such selective amnesia, it's shameful. And I bet your bottom dollar, Obama was not the every Sunday going to church member for 20 years everyone thinks. He is probably afraid to shirk away from that, as to be seen as going to church 4 times a year, now he's not religious enough! Get the Church out of POLITICS!

The problem is not what tMichael Phlager said, not even that the congregation rose to its feet and applauded. The problem is that Obama continues to belong to a racist church.

Why doesn't a priest like this idiot can just get fired!! I would be fired from my job in a hearth bit. Anyone else would just be applying for a job in McDonalds. After the child abuse, and all the rest of the dirt that has been thrown on the church, It is so hard to be a Catholic nowadays. The clergy just doesn't get it; please get these bumbs out of the church!! They have no place in it. Stop defending these idiots and sick priests. Just cut them loose!! I'll never vote for Obama because I don't think he has enough experience for the most important job in the planet. Now that I heard this, and add it to the fact that he's been in this church for 20 years???? I don't know about him to even be qualified to be a senator

The misogyny in this campaign, particularly in the national media, stuns me.
If Sen. Clinton talks about being a woman, she's playing the gender card. If she tries to reach out to black voters, she's playing the race card.
It's fine for black voters to vote overwhelmingly for Sen. Obama, but when whites vote for Sen. Clinton, we're all racist.
Of course, the Democratic Party will nominate Sen. Obama even if Sen. Clinton wins the popular vote because the dinosaurs who are the party's leaders cannot bear the notion of a woman taking the party helm. (Please don't mention Nancy Pelosi. The woman is almost too dumb to breathe.) Mass. Democrats should take note of those delegates and superdelegates who ignore our primary election vote to make Obama the nominee, then exact revenge at the ballot box by voting for McCain.

he without sin cast the first stone, i can say some of obamas associates are kind of rough but that does not make a reflection of him. i am greatly disappointed by all of these nasty remarks because of the people he ghas come into contact with this is utterly ridiculus instead of looking at common ground you look for division. i have a lot of associates that are unsavory to say the least. but are they a reflection of me by no means. i bet you half of the people on here blogging have no affiliation with any church and that is sad.
furthermore, i would want a president who is spiritually grounded than someone who lashes out at someone who goes to church. that was just the excuse alot of you were looking for in the first place that is like grasping at straws. if we knew of all of the unsavory charcters(criminals) whom the clintons and mccain have dealt with we would not have a candidate. like obama said " judge me by how i run my campaign"

go obama dont let these side shows distract you and may god continue to bless you!

You Obama fans may be sick of hearing it but, reverend Wright will follow Obama for the rest of his political career. He was Obama's mentor, spiritual leader and family counselor for as many years as you parents guide your children to adulthood. What is puzzling to me is how so many people can convince themselves that his relationship with the reverend and his successors should not be taken into consideration. It speaks to his character and ability to see situations for what they are. His spiritual leaders were, and still are, bigots and hate mongers. Their frequent references to people's race alone is the big giveaway. If any white politician associated with anyone that yelled out racial epithets like these so-called reverends, they would be annihilated by the left. It is clear that Obama is comfortable around people capable of hatred and racial bigotry. Racism is alive and well in America. Sadly, it probably always will be. It just seems that now, those that were the victims of it are now striking back using their own form of racism. Remember the old saying that those that forget the lessons of the past are doomed to repeat them. Guess what? The Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons are right there to fan the flames of perpetual bigotry. Thank God most are beginning to recognize the double standards and hatred pushed by the left. The silent majority will reach out and silence them at the ballot box.

THIS HAS BEEN OBAMA'S THINKING ALL ALONG!!!PEOPLE SHOULD NOT FIND IT SURPRISING WHAT HE THINKS!!! BLACK PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY ARE THE MOST RACIST I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!!!! I HAVE BEEN THE WORLD OVER AND BLACK PEOPLE IN AMERICA SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES WITH ALLK THIS RACISM THEY ARE PREACHING..ON THE VIDEO OF THE PREACHER THEY ARE LAUGHING AND HAVING A GOOD TIME BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THEY WANNA HEAR!!!!!!!BLACK PEOPLE OF AMERICA THIS SHOWS THAT OBAMA BRINGS OUT THE WORST IN YOU!!!!!!!!HE IS SOOO NOT GONNA UNITE THIS COUNTRY LOOK WHAT HE IS DOING NOW!!!!!!!!! HILLARY HELP US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think his comments were flagrant and misplaced -- but not necessarily irrational. If Hillary can play the sexist card -- meaning that if she can claim with such certainty that she is the victim of sexism - that she is somehow losing because people have discriminated against her because of her sex -- then I don't see why it is so far fetched and out of the box for some people to think that she would be capable of being indignant because she is losing to a black person. After all, she has made race a point in her appeal to America - that she is somehow better qualified because hard working WHITE americans are better able to stomach her as the president than Barack. She had no reason to throw race into her argument at all. Obviously she sees race as a factor that is working in her favor -- much like the Priest pointed out. I am not saying that he is 100% right. He is making an observation that sounds like a maniacal rant in it's delivery but not necessarily hard to imagine in its content. Even so, I find it difficult to hold Barack Obama accountable for statements that he didn't make or opinions that he hasn't expressed -- no matter how close his relationship is with the person making those statements. I can't hold him any more accountable than I can hold Hillary Clinton accountable for Slick Willy (her husband's) mistakes. He lied to America. Under oath. He cheated on his wife and got busy in the White house. With an intern. She didn't "repudiate" him. She stuck with him despite the fact that he is basically a liar. (He was a kick-ass president and I don't believe that his jacked up personal life was America's business - -but at the very least, we do know that he DID lie under oath.) Can we hold Hillary accountable for that? I don't think so. The same rule applies for Barack in my opinion. Heck - I've known my own father all my life and I disagree with a LOT of what he says. He comes from a different time and grew up in a different America than I did so his mind is poisoned by his own experiences. Does that make me the same -- just because I have a close relationship with him? Absolutely not. Does Barack Obama have to believe everything that comes out of his pastor's mouth? Nope. Does Hillary have to be a liar and a cheater just because she is married to and sleeps next to one every night? Negative.

Try holding him accountable for what comes out of HIS mouth. Then try doing that with Hillary. Make sure you ask her about Bosnia and the sniper fire she took while she was there. If you have any small sparkle of intelligence - you'll see that what the candidates themselves say is more a reflection of their character than what someone that they know says.

This is Obama's church for 20 years. It's still his church.

Nobody saying that Obama is reponsible for these people's words. But all of these offensive speeches are happening at Obama's church of 20 years.

This is why Hillary supports will not vote for Obama. He'll never be president.
We will cross party lines and vote McCain.....Women deserve better than this treatment

Seems to me that Obama and the people he associates with are very racist! First of all if I was going to a church like the one he is supoosed to be going to I would quit going. First of all that church is NOT a christian base church. Simply because Church is for Christians gathering together to learn more about Jesus not making comments like Mr Wright and Mr Michael Pfleger has made to the congregation. I don't refer you to as preachers because Jesus said to teach and preach about him and the things he did and the truth of Salvation. You two are a disgrace to the Christian world. You so call preachers should not be allow to voice your opinions to anyone. God created man in his own image. Refering to the comment that Jermiah wright had made about the Government giving the African Americans Aids look at history our ancestors has bought the africans over here.
If you look at studies that the researchers have done you notice that the aids didn't arrive here about 1969.

AIDS was first reported June 5, 1981, when the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recorded a cluster of Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia (now still classified as PCP but known to be caused by Pneumocystis jirovecii) in five homosexual men in Los Angeles. In the beginning, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) did not have an official name for the disease, often referring to it by way of the diseases that were associated with it, for example, lymphadenopathy, the disease after which the discoverers of HIV originally named the virus. They also used Kaposi's Sarcoma and Opportunistic Infections, the name by which a task force had been set up in 1981. In the general press, the term GRID, which stood for Gay-related immune deficiency, had been coined.[124] However, after determining that AIDS was not isolated to the homosexual community,the term GRID became misleading and AIDS was introduced at a meeting in July 1982.By September 1982 the CDC started using the name AIDS, and properly defined the illness. A more controversial theory known as the OPV AIDS hypothesis suggests that the AIDS epidemic was inadvertently started in the late 1950s in the Belgian Congo by Hilary Koprowski's research into a poliomyelitis vaccine. According to scientific consensus, this scenario is not supported by the available evidence.

A recent study states that HIV probably moved from Africa to Haiti and then entered the United States around 1969.

If you got to this website you san see that south Africa has a high number of hiv/aids cases. http://www.avert.org/aidssouthafrica.htm

So therefore Aids started from another country and brought over to America.

As far as making comments about Hillary you need to apologize. As a Christian we need to love our neighbors but it seems to me that church doesn't know what that means. Making racial and sexist comments about anyone is not very Christian like. The problem of this world is that everyone makes comments to discredit the someone else.

Another factor in this Presidential race that the Americans need to look at is the background that Mr Obama has. Is he really a US Citizen. Just because you'r e born in the US don't mean anything. It is the way you was raised. The values you have in you. So where does Barack really stand??? Anyone who doesn't acknowledge our national anthem in this Country needs to go back where they came from.

Poltics and Church does not mix. Church is for worshipping God and learning about Jesus not making comments about people. So you so-called preachers your day will come when you have to answer for what you said.

So if Hillary doesn't get the nomination well this ol' Virginia Girl won't be voting this year plus a whole lot of people won't be voting either. Either way if Hillary don't get it, it will be another 4 miserable years ahead for the USA. So wake up America lets get Michigan and Florida counted in. The choice is ours do we want change or do we want someone who can do alot for this Country like Hillary!!!!

What the hell is the DNC thinking????

It is really disgusting the way you Obama people have maligned Hillary Clinton. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourselves.

Of course, Obama was never present or ever heard anything that this priest ever said.

Watch the cheering congregants as Father Pfleger rants. This is Obama's community that he extols.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJyLX7X3PzU

Would you sit through 20 years of this crap and hatred?

“The righteous is a guide to his neighbor, But the way of the wicked leads them astray.” (Proverbs 12:26)

"Bad company corrupts good morals." (1 Corinthians 15:33)

Article from the Chicago Sun Times on the speech and background.

Obama described Pfleger as "his moral compass" in a 2004 Chicago Sun Times interview.

A friend and a "moral compass" ... what does that say about Obama's values?

It is silly to ask why does Fox keep filming at the church. The church is proud of those sermons and streams them live on the internet. They are readily available.

The Obama campaign paid for Pfleger to go to Iowa to campaign for Obama and was very visible there, so they can't say he's not a member of his campaign. Even though they have taken down Pleger's stuff from the website, it is archived at Microsoft and already out there in the blogospere and readily available to the Republicans or anyone else who wants to use it.

At the end of the priest's rant, the new pastor at Trinity, Moss, who Barack said was so great and that's why he stayed in the church said..."We thank God for the message and we thank God for the messenger."

Obama has made his religion a major part of his campaign more than any other candidate in history, starting with his book, Audacity of Hope, where he spends so much time describing his religion and Trinity Church. It looks like the strategy to use his book to kick off his campaign may backfire.

While I agree Obama cannot be held responsible for comments made of others, it is clear this church supports and has a history of this kind of biggoted racially divisive vitriol.
Black Americans will never get anywhere until they stop looking back and begin moving forward. Get an education; get a job. The other stuff will fall into place

I have NEVER been in any predominantly white church and heard racially divisive sermons. I did hear one sermon criticizing jews and never set foot in that church again.
THAT is the real point here folks, he stayed; 20 years. He brought his children there to TEACH them moral values. That proves that this building, and whomever they choose to become their leader, with a history of this type of religious teaching, is his moral compass.

I'd like to think he is a well educated nice guy,. but this proves to me his judgement is as flawed as Bush's. If he didn't believe it/wasn't responsible for it,
WHY DID HE STAY????

Some people are saying that Obama can't be held responsible for the words of another - be it Rev. Wright, Father Pfleger or anyone else. In a general sense, I agree with that. But the difference here is he has a long history with these people and that church.

He's not accountable for their words - but when we hear their words we are helped to understand what this church is all about; what Black Liberation Theology is all about. And he's been a member of this church for 20 years. This is a radical church preaching radical theology. At least it's radical to me.

We, as voters, have every right to question Obama's ties to this church and these people (Wright/Pfleger). I find it extremely hard to believe that in 20 years, he was unaware of the kind of bigotry and hate that came from the pulpit at TUCC or from Wright/Pfleger - who had served as advisors (and spiritual mentors). With this type of character judgement, can you imagine who he might have on his cabinet if elected?

how much did hillary pay this guy to say what he did? these are classic clinton tactics. when she can't win fair and square . . she cheats! Man! She reminds of Governor Tracy from the movie Black Sheep (with Chris Farley) -- they both look alike and cheat.
Democratic party is a joke . .

Obama quit his Church. Has he NO backbone?? Does he have any conviction or ability to stand up for what he believes in?? Why not stay and try to make it a better church?? Why not stay and focus on the congregation and the good that the church does?? Wright and Pfelger probably represent a very small percentage of what the church does....and Obama cuts and runs. Obama...stay, stand up against racism, stand up for the people of your church, stand by them and be a solid citizen...they are there for you.....and you abandon them??? Nice leadership and willingness to persevere in the face of adversity, Obama.

Its sad that there are so many hateful "cut off my nose of to spite my face" idiots out there who are willing to vote for McCain because Clinton is losing the nomination. The most sad thing about it is the fact that your decision isn't going to do a darn thing to hurt Obama. You wanna know who your decision will hurt? It will hurt the first little boy or girl to lose their father or mother in Iraq after the election. Because what you are basically saying is that you would rather MORE MEN AND WOMEN DIE, continued economic erosion and a lack of universal healthcare (among other things) than you would support the party that has an interest in changing those things. Whether Obama or Hillary gets the nomination - to vote for McCain is to say that you don't have the capacity to vote based on the issues. You're not capable of making an objective vote in November for the person that is BEST for the job out of the choices. You'd rather vote for McCain like an idiot so that you can do damage to the party that didn't nominate your candidate. Seriously idiodic. All of these people - Hillary, Obama, McCain will be doing just fine, with their healthcare (that we pay for), their free government vehicle gas (that we pay for) and their jobs (that we pay for). Stupid people. Who do you think you will be hurting by voting for cabbage-head McCain?

Obama USED this church and congregation for his own political purposes in south side Chicago. Shame on him and his wife. Now that this association is working against him he dumps the church. It doesn't get any simpler than that. Obama is the quintissential politician and is leading the Democratic Party down the path of ruin.

Obama has already changed his policy on Iraq for a slower withdrawal, he speaks in platitudes,. If the media had been doing their job and treated him like any other candidate, if the democrats had done their job and seated Michigan and Florida just like they did New Hampshire, the country wouldn't be so angry. If Obama had the democratic party united, he would have won enough superdelegates for the race to be over a long time ago..Obama is party politics as usual and to hold Hillary to a higher standard is the same as allowing this church to preach racism in a manner that would have caused a lawsuit if it was a white church.