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The black racism in the North Carolina win cannot triumph over the nomination process. The Indiana win of a mere 9 counties by Obama out of more than 100 counties cannot triumph over the nomination process. Florida and Michigan must be counted; the remaining states must vote; and the superdelegates must then use their independent judgment to select the best qualified candidate for the presidency and that is Hillary Clinton. The fight for the future of America continues full speed ahead. Rational thinking Democrats must now step up to the plate and make frequent contributions to the Hillary Clinton campaign.

The nominating process has been fair, and the DNC has ensured that all 50 states play by the rules that all the candidates agreed to before the primaries started. The end of the primary season is now approaching. Soon it will be time for the second-place candidate to show real leadership, gracefully withdraw, and forcefully support the first-place candidate.

White racism should also be abolished. The Pennsylvania votes should not count. In fact democracy is overrated. Experience based on nepotism should continue to rule, alternating between republican and democrat nominees every 8 years. It has worked extremely well the past 8.

Billy Bush '16 !
Chelsea '24 !
Jenna '32 !

What a load of nonsense by crat3. Hillary and you are both deceiving yourselves. She's as good as dead politically. Bill's racist comments show what he really believes. It will soon be over, thank goodness.

We should never have given those naughty black people the right to vote.

"Rational thinking Democrats must now step up to the plate and make frequent contributions to the Hillary Clinton campaign."

Might as well just flush your money down the toilet. Democrats who understand basic mathematics already know Hillary can't win.

Hillary seems to have been so selfish during all of this--the Democratic party and the country come a distant second to her ambition.

It's time to bow out graciously and get behind the front runner, so that Democratic funds can saved for the Fall campaign, not wasted on yet more frivolous attack ads and gas give-aways, etc.

time for Hillary to get out..... Dont forget USA is built by all races so calm down... No place for racist comments...

The Republicans are mostly silent, but I hear them at work. They HATE Hillary Clinton, and are quietly hoping she will become the Democrat nominee. A lot of moderate men hate Hillary too. I am not one of them, and have been repeatedly shocked at the passionately held dislike of her, but it is real. She is unelectable because of it. The right wing conspiracy machine is ready for her. They are really afraid of Obama. Why do you think Rush Limbaugh is urging people to vote for Hillary? Because he knows she can't be elected!!

Hillary must now answer to the public and understand that she is not the only answer to the problems we all face. Another Clinton in the white house is not the answer. Mayber Hillary should loan 5.0 millon to an unemployment fund for displaced workers from her NAFTA days.

eat your own **** egghead. the dems race has succeded in dividing the party along race gender religiom and so furth HELLO? i thoght thats the republicans , karl rove who are doing that . well, 1 more name to that list , hillary radhem.

Senator Obama is a statesman; he proved that again in his speech last night. It's time for Democrats to get behind him and be ready for the general election. Democrats have won longtime Republican seats in LA and elsewhere; change is coming.

If rational thinkers want another politician who will do anything to get elected. Then go right ahead and pick Hillary. I personally would prefer a change, and I think America deserves better. Obama will win and I think become the best president this country has ever had. I even prefer mcain to Hillary to be honest. At least he has scruples.

I'd rather see Satan elected presiden tthan Hillary. Oh, wait, how would we tell the difference?

Bye Hillary. You are all done now.

Go away.

It would seem, Crat3, that what is triumphing in the nomination process is Senator Obama. All in all, I find that a good thing. He is by far the most personally inspiring candidate I have seen from either party in many a year.

hahaha, get out loser! You, as all Clintonians, are an enemy of our country, a traitor and should be treated as such.
We, real Americans, hate all the Clintonians.
If the Banana-bama is not able to do so, we will destroy, crush and expel you OUT of our country to Colombia or Mexico, after Big Mac and Rice make your Drug-Cartel lady in pieces, in the fall.
I will personally gladly close the doors of the boats that send all you Clintonian garbage OUT forever of the United States.

The body isn't dead but the priest has given last rites. Hillary is pretty much toast. Even if she wins over 72% of the remaining contests, and 55% of the superdelegates, she's still done. Oh, sure, she could wait it out a month, run a shoe-string campaign that relies mostly on media coverage, just to hang around and see if Obama does something irretrievably stupid. But she's a goner. The super delegates will ensure it -- and soon. Is she candidate most qualified to beat McCain? Hardly. She can't even beat Obama. The Democratic opinion polls are with him, he has won more states, has more of the popular vote, and consequently, he'll get more of the pledged delegates, and quickly. If Obama could arrange a 'shock-and-awe' of double-digit super delegates moving to him within 24-48 hours, this contest could be done by the end of the week.

NOT ELECTABLE, NOT ELECTABLE, NOT ELECTABLE.

reason: the emperor has no clothes. obama:
1. no experience
2. never passed any meaningful legislation
3. dirty chicago politics
4. deal with teamsters to end oversight (robert kennedy paid with his life for reigning in the mafia - ted kennedy shame on you.)
5. exposed daughters to rev. wright for their entire life.
6. far left wing of the party doesn't win a general election.
7. smashed in debates
8. winning 92% of african american vote in primary doesn't translate to general election.
9. rezko dealings. this is more of south side chicago politics - forcing rivals off the ballot (who personally selected you) and getting into bed with the mafia and the teamsters.
10. reinventing the standard american as being raised single-parented, by grandmother/grandfather, and connecting that with the majority of americans
11. and last but not least: DOING DRUGS - COCAINE, COCAINE, COCAINE, at the most liberal private college in southern california - Occidental college.

UNELECTABLE! THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES. THE LIBERAL BLOGS WONT LET THIS GO THROUGH. FREE SPEECH. FREEDOM TO ASSEMBLE.

No body is listening to you anymore.......

this is ludicrous. the history of these elections prove that Obama is not running ahead of Clinton due to black racism

It's not like Clinton (think Bill in S.C.) hasn't made racial overtones. (Even Jesse Jackson won in S.C.). Because Florida and Michigan were disqualified early, Obama didn't campaign in either and wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan. Show show rationality crat3.

BOTTOM LINE IS HILLARY IS TO BE THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE .
IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT THE PRIMARY RESULT OR PLEDGED DELEGATES NUMBERS ARE.
BECAUSE PRESIDENCY ONLY BELONGS TO ELITE CLINTON FAMILY.
IN REALITY HILLARY IS NO MORE RUNNING FOR THE 2008 PRIMARY.
WHAT SHE IS NOW DOING IS TO DESTROY SENATOR OBAMA SO THAT SHE CAN RUN IN 2012.

You are an idiot. A rule is a rule is a rule. Oh, what an idiot I am - these are the Clinton rules don't apply. Sorry. My error.

To assume that NC's support for Obama is "black racism" is itself a racist notion.

Unfortunately, Florida and Michigan did not run legitimate primaries.

It is time for the democratic party to unify. Personally, I believe that Clinton's supporters have earned her consideration for a vice presidential nod. She can continue to fight for them from that position, and I think she owes it to them to accept if it is offered to her.

Now it seems the Mrs. Clinton's strategy is either "I win or no one wins."
At the same time history will not be kind to her if the Dems lose this election.
Ask yourself this question: If the roles were reversed, and Obama was behind in pledged delegates, popular votes, and states won, do you not think there would be calls for him to step aside for the good of the Party?
Why then is Mrs. Clinton allowed tto continue? She will be the death knell of the Party. She either wins without the backing of the popular vote, or she will tear at Obama so much that the GOP will not have to think for themselves as simply use Mrs. Clinton's tactics against him.

Very cleverly written campaign ad there, however, you can use all of the divisive buzz words you can think of in a post, but it doesn't change the facts. Hillary Clinton is finished. She was unelectable from the first day, whether her opponent(s) were blue green or yellow. Hillary could not stand up to more scrutiny of her business dealings with Whitewater, her board membership at Walmart, her votes on the Iraq war, and her faux toughness on Iran. People have to get a clue, the people in Iraq are fighting for their lives against invaders. Just as you or I would do had we been invaded by a larger country.
Our country needs a leader, a statesman if you will, one who is not tied to a lackluster and underperforming past. There is no rule that says a former Presidents' wife is qualified to be President, especially when she is just another Washington insider, who is supported and financed by big business and Republicans who are afraid of Obama.
Bill Clinton was the best of a sorry bunch of Presidents over the last 30 years. We must raise the bar higher however, His free trade agreements pandered to big business and cost our country the jobs we have lost now. Hillary feeds at that same PAC/Big Business trough and while she says she stands for change, her vision is still aligned with those groups.
Let's all pull together for the candidate that started as a member of the people without advantages. A candidate who is willing to make change. A candidate who wants a discourse on issues and not on hate.

Right. Those lousy racist black people can't triumph over the Democratically anointed Clinton - the Superdelegates must save the day! (If that doesn't work, you should try asking the Supreme Court to pick the president, there's legal precedent for it.)

Oh please crat3, she has so far lent herself 11.4 MILLION dollars for this race. Being a die hard is one thing, stupidity is another. Then there is the flordia/michigan thing. She agrees to one thing (they won't be counted) but then changes her mind when SHE needs them. Do you really think she'd go against what was agreed to if she didn't need them?

dakkie

Black racism? i almost spit my coffee on my screen. When almost 60% of democrats in a State that has a 35% Black population it is automatically Black racism. Is it possible that irrespective of race Democrat voters in North Carolina prefer an honest candidate over one who outright lies, panders and has a husband who brought disgrace on the office of Pres. ?

Think about it before you throw race around because the same people you call racist voted her husband in and kept him in when he should have been impeached. They are also the same voters she would need to win in Nov.

If your theory had any merit she would have won by a huge margin in IN, the State has a relatively small Black population

What about white racism in states like PA.? #1 (crat 3) you hypocrite, we have to fight very hard to diminish people like you in order for this country to move forward. Yes the fight is on for the future of America where blacks, white, Indians, Hispanic etc can unite to move this country forward. Only Barack Obama can do this and Americans now understand what has to be done for this country to become a perfect union. 1.5 million People donating to Obama means that change is coming and guess what? You cannot stop change so stop the whining and jump on the bandwagon for change.

That's it for Clinton now. The fight for the future of America truly does begin now.

The sheer amount of ignorance coming from the Clinton supporters is astounding. Something like this:

We beat him by 2% in one state, and lost in another by double digits. We are losing in the total delegate count by an increasing margin. We are running negative campaign ads that are increasingly attempting to make Obama "appear" unelectable. We are ignoring everyone that says we have an incredibly dismal mathematical chance of actually winning. We are comfortable tearing the party apart because Hillary ignores anything but total victory.

Seriously? I would doubt even Clinton supporters would dispute much of that. But don't Clinton supporters realize what they have become?

Black racism...? pleeeze...

Every (white) democrat in the last few election cycles has garnered a huge percentage of the black vote.

I'm a white middle-aged male. I identify with Barack Obama. Hilary's triangulation to the right lost me a long time ago.

The Majority of the American people have spoken and found Hilary wanting. Give it a rest, Obama has states 2 to 1 over her, 150 delegates more than her and the popular vote as well.

If Michigan and Florida want to be counted, then put them back on the campaign list and let BOTH candidates be placed and the ballot and BOTH candidates can campaign there..Lets play fair now. Hilary has no way of catching Obama, its done already..

It is time for the democratic party to become united behind one candidate in order for us to beat McGain. It is clear that Obama, who is leading in delagates and popular vote, should be the nominee. Super delegates lets not extend this any longer, step up to the plate and pubicly acknowledge Barack for the sake of the party. Clinton's desperate attempt to capture the white house as evidenced by her refusal to give up; her desire to count the delegates in Florida and Michigan ( even though Barack was not on the ballot} and her rhetorics does nothing but anger and frustrate the people. Lets rally around Barack.!!!!!!

Black racism? I am a white male that voted yesterday for Obama in NC. crat3 you are an idiot and a racist.

Hillary Clinton's mean-spirited campaign smacks of typical Clintonism - cynical politics, willing to do or say anything to win. Her makeover as a working class hero, when she's a millionaire who vacations with the rich and famous, is purely cosmetic. Her claim of superior experience is very thin. Obama has won vastly more states, delegates, and popular votes. She should bow out while the Democrats still have a chance.

African Americans in NC aren't racist, since they've had to deal with hardship longer, they understand economics better and since they've been lied to for so long by their government, they just are too savvy to fall for Hillary's bankrupt gas tax rhetoric.

If you think that Hillary should win at this point because the rules don't apply you might as well be saying that Patriots should be superbowl champions because we should *not* count the score in the superbowl - we should give them the win because they didn't lose any regular season games.

Since she's plumb out of money, look for her to be calling for more "debates."

She needs to get out of the race so we can get on with the process of defeating McCain.

CRAT3 said: "Florida and Michigan must be counted"

I'm a Florida resident, and the votes should not be counted. It was basically a non-election. I know people who didn't vote, because they were told their vote wouldn't count. I know people who switched to the Republican party, so their vote would count.

In Michigan, Clinton was the only democrat on the ballot. We know now why she refused to remove her name. It was so she could claim a "win" in a non-contest and use that to strong arm her way to the nomination.

Both of these states knew the consequences of their actions, and they shouldn't be rewarded for breaking the rules. That sets a bad precedence.

I think all of Hillary's supporters should donate to her so she can pay off her debt. However, if she continues to campaign I would think twice about it. Wati a week and see what happens. If she continues to back off then those supporters should help her with her debt. Otherwise she is going to want to Obama to pay it off for her and I don't want my money paying for Hillary's debt.

It is time to stop riding a dead horse. The numbers are not there for Hillary. She needs to bite the bullet and congradulate and support the nominee most Americans have voted for, Sen. Obama. His intelligence, temperment, honest communications and ability to lead this nation are appearant. In regards to Michigan and Florida, since when do we ignore that those states willingly and knowingly, disobeyed the rules followed by every other state. The undeclared voters cannot ignore the voice of the people, we live in a democracy, however damaging the last eight years have been to it, and our voices must be reflected in their votes. It's mathematically over, and the best man has won a good race. Now lets all get off the dead horse and unite behind our next President, Barack Obama

Crat3: No chance. She is toast. FL and MI? They could have decided this election if they had kept to the agreed upon rules. It is ironic. They would have had incredible power if they kept their primaries as scheduled. Clinton qualified? She has lots of experience, all of it bad. From failed health care reform to White Water, TravelGate, the Lincoln Bedroom, missing Rose Law firm billing papers, a weak marriage, to a terribly, horribly run campaign. Which qualifications are you speaking of? Being a witness to bad Presidential history, running a poorly managed and self imploding campaign -- are those qualification? Ok, she apparently did a very good job raising Chelsea despite a difficult husband, but so have millions of other American woman. Truly and honestly, from a Clinton supporter in the 90s, I just don’t see it. I see in Hillary someone who wants Power and will do anything to get it for herself, her family and friends.

i get this eerie feeling that even IF hill's gets the nomination she will turn into bush with excess estrogen. she is scary and panders to the lowest common denominator (see the gas tax relief crap). the simple folk think its a good idea but don't realize that after the relief period is over the price will rebound to a point higher than it was before the break. that is just a simple example to appeal to the ones that are willing to let her do their thinking for them.

Which candidate is more truthful?
Which candidate's spouse has been caught in lies while attempting to destroy the credibility of his/her accusers?
Which candidate is part of the old Washington operatives?
Which candidate can best unite the country?
Which candidate has been named in numerous legal scandals?
Which candidate has a sexually promiscuous spouse?
Which candidate experienced and truly identifies with the struggles of non-elites and can honestly "feel your pain?"
Which candidate will destroy his/her opponents and the Democratic Party just to win?
Which candidate found it difficult to cut ties with a church that had one pastor controversial pastor?
Which candidate, like Abraham Lincoln, comes from Illinois, is tall and skinny, and has big ears?

Oh well, I am going to skip HRC's funeral. Let's all hope that with her gone, the old politics of Democratic Party will be buried with her as well. It's a New Day. We can look forward to lifting this nation up instead of tearing the world down. Obama's success against McCain is already in the bag. Our real challenge is how we must rebuild this country, end the wars, dismantle the Military Industrial complex, and put our eggs in the baskets of Science, Culture, and Global Cooperation. It's time for America to join the World in the fight against poverty, disease, and pollution. Indeed, God is behind America if He's lifted Obama to lead her, in this hour of dismay . Obama is our last chance of salvation. I am glad the majority of Americans have seen this as well.

Barack must emphasize he is both black and white. That he will represent all
ethnics. He must rise above the racism both actual and perceived. He must label the bigots as such. The bigot Wright, the bigot Duke. He must recognize that with out the blood, the sweat, tears of millions of whites, from the inception of this country, the blacks would still be enslaved.

He must also include McCain on his people to respect list, as well as Bush.
Otherwise, he will remain a political bigot to republicans. Who will never trust him.

I detect something of the Rush Limbaugh Republican-in-Dems' clothing in Crat3's post.

Hillary needs to get out. We got stuck with bush for 8 years b/c bill made the mistake of diddling an intern. we'll get stuck with McCain if Hill allows her ego to get in the way. We need to win, or the country is sunk.

At the end of the day America needs change.serious change.
there,s nothing working in America , health care , education , economy.

I,m from Europe .we go to university for free , we get free healthcare and so on.

you,ve got a chance now to change direction.
the Bush / Clinton dynasty is simply not it.

one thing i,m confused by ! how / why did billary win New York ?

It's high time for the Super Delegates to get off the fence and end this process.
Hillary fought the good fight but now IT'S OVER. Let's all get behind OBAMA and turn towards McCain and the RNC.

I heard that 9 counties out of more than 100 argument forwarded by HRC supporters last night. The mysteries of proportional representation continue to elude some, unless of course they are dismissing those counties in the caucus as coming from inconsequential small states.
The manic pivoting from one contradicting rationale to another would be entertaining if they weren't so sad.

Ooooo, there are some angry Dittoheads here! Sorry folks, you can't rant about Obama not winning rural counties in Indiana after you showed up in droves to skew the results. All your effforts did not put your girl over the top and no one is fooled---least of all the superdelegates. THIS IS OUR PARTY!

Free speech does not replace a humane society. It's so disheartening to read such trash.

The democrats are going to turn the US into a socialist state...

McGovern today tells her to quit, more superdelegates tomorrow will jump on the bandwagon. Hillary will make her announcement by Saturday. Why do you think she is not all over the networks today ? Exit strategy sessions.

Moonproperty, Hillary Clinton won New York because that is her (current) home state. Typically, nominees win their home states because the people there know the person better than his/her opponent and vote based on that.

The republicans are going to turn the US into a theocracy. Glory!

Black racism in North Carolina? I'm confused. I'm white and I voted in North Carolina for Obama. So am I now a black racist? The term "black racism" to undermine progressive results is generally used around here by the Klan and their ilk. I don't think it helps Hillary to connect that kind of thinking with her campaign.

I live in Oregon. I voted by mail yesterday for Obama. This is the very first time I've had a meaningful vote for the Democratic presidential nominee since I started voting in Oregon 42 years ago. I do understand what Florida and Michigan must feel to be "excluded" from the contest.

That said. We should all remember that this is not an election for the party nominee, it is a selection process for the DNC to choose the most viable candidate to take back the White House. I think Howard Dean and the rest of the DNC have set up a process (not the most perfect) that will allow the 50 State strategy to flower in the upcoming General Election. The DNC set the rules, all candidates agreed to the rules, now we're about to have a vetted and tested Barak Obama for President.

Hillary supporters don't know anything about math...... remember the $28.00
gas tax suspension... It ain't going to happen.

SUPERDELEGATES should be allowed, and encouraged to take all the time they need to make this decision. It’s too crucial for the country.

http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2008/04/superdelegates-independence-of-vote.html