McCain, Obama get busy on VP search

In continuing his ruthless quest for the Democratic nomination, Obama is obviously conducting his vice presidential search in an end run around the nomination process to put a strangle hold on swiping the nomination from Sen. Clinton. He is similar to Kennedy's fatal brain tumor, embedding his tentacles in the nomination.

If Obama's raw ambition results in his swiping the nomination, he will crash and burn in November and the Democratic Party will be a train wreck in November.

The Democratic nomination process is still in progress with remaining states to vote their presidential preference and be counted; FL and MI still to be counted; and the superdelegates to decide on the best qualified and strongest candidate to win the general election using their independent judgment with no regard for any "delegate math." Obama does not have the requisite number of delegates for the nomination; he has no "within reach" lock on the nomination. Ruthless Obama's not playing fair and square by the rules of the game is not "change to believe in;" it's playing dirty Chicago politics; do anything to win; the ends justify the means.

Sen. Clinton is the best qualified and strongest candidate to win the general election and the superdelegates will show wisdom, integrity and courage in selecting her for the Democratic nominee. Sen. Clinton is the Democratic nominee.

Sen. Clinton must continue to fight for the future of America and all Americans. All rational Americans need to support her campaign by making frequent contributions at HillaryClinton.com.

Hillary should stop posting as crat3.

So, crat3, did you read Hillary's pledge related to MI and FL? This thing is long over, and insiders at the party know that Hillary can't in good conscience make a case for MI/FL being seated as if they were contested elections.

I think Wes Clark, a Clintonite, ought to be added to the list. Hillary has shown herself completely unqualified (SNIPER FIRE!), but Wes Clark would be an excellent choice and a nod to the Clintons (which at this point is more than they deserve)...

How is winning "swiping" the nomination away from the one who has lost it? I fail to see THAT logic!

Idiots.

If Clinton was leading Obama in the way that Obama is leading Clinton she would be everywhere yelling at the top of her lungs for him to drop out. Obama is doing what he needs to do to prepare to fight John McCain. Hillary hanging around does no one any good. She will drop out on June 4th. It is ok to stay in until all the states have voted. But in reality it was over at the end of February when she lost the nomination.

I'm sorry, but are you serious? Obama is so obviously the better candidate and has more delegates. The Florida and Michigan debate is ridiculous because Obama and Hillary couldn't campaign there and Obama wasn't even ON the ballot in Michigan. People have to be out of their minds if they really think all of those votes should count. It was Florida and Michigan, by the way, who decided this by not playing by the rules, not Obama. I'm sure Hillary would be fighting so hard for those votes if Obama would be helped with the addition of them, right? Ridiculous.

"Crat" must be drinking the Klinton Koolaid. To say that Obama is "swiping" the nomination is pure silliness. By what calculus is she ahead? By counting the Stalinesque Michigan contest? (you can have any color as long as it is clinton)...by counting the "swing states"?....(earth to Crat: since 1972 the Dems have chosen the candidate with the most delegates).....by using national polls that show him 16 points ahead of her?? Bottom line: it must hurt real bad to know that he supports a candidate who:

1. Lies about everything from opening borders to refugees to missing Vince Foster documents to sniper fire in Bosnia

2. Is cynical enough to say with a straight face that a contest that had only ONE NAME on the ballot is FAIR.

3. Says that she is interested in the "will of the people" while the only way she can get the nomination is to convince the supers to ignore the will of the people.

4. Raises the race card regularly (arent blacks hard working too??) and screams with indignation when there is the slightest hint of sexism.

5. After Iowa said:" it's not about momentum, it's about pledged delegates". After losing 12 straight said: "it's not about pledged delegates, its about momentum and electability"

6. Agreed with the DNC's sanctions of FLA and Michigan until she needed their votes.

7. Considers old people, uneducated white people, and women to be the only demographic groups that count

8. Didnt have a "Plan B" after Super Tuesday and spent 130 million by that point.

9. Was out hustled, out organized, and out fund-raised by a "neophyte"

Final point: if he is so unelectable, why did he beat her so soundly?

Hurts, doesnt it?

So, crat3, Obama's quest for the nomination is "ruthless" and "raw" but Hillary Clinton's is not? If you're going to throw out those kind of loaded adjectives to describe his campaign, then you should have the honesty to extend those same adjectives to describe Hillary Clinton, whose relentless, raw, and divisive campaign is the very embodiment of ruthlessness. And with all due respect, if Hillary was the "best qualified and strongest candidate" she would be ahead and ready to lock in on the nomination, which is she NOT and which Obama is.

you Hillary Clinton supporters you need to know that in any sports there is is winner and loser so if you dont have enough deligate to be the nomine for the party please stop try to change the rules according to the way you want we all demecrate and i acuary voted for Hillary Clinton in Texas but i know we have to came together for the good of the party .lets join together as Demecrats and if we unite together as one we can win this election for sure.

Thanks

If he picks Jim Webb, Obama will be the next President...

Ah, of course - how "ruthless" of Senator Obama to start looking for his VP nominee.

After all - the gall of the man. What was he thinking after he won the majority of the states Democratic elections. Won the majority of elected delegates. Won the majority of caucus states (15/16 contests). Won the majority of primary states.

Won the popular vote (yes, even the popular vote, because you can only give Senator Clinton a "popular vote lead" by ignoring 15 caucus states - and I'm certain Senator Clinton would hate to disenfranchise such states by saying their vote doesn't matter).

Being at 60 votes from clenching the nomination, with only another 80 delegates for grabs in elected delegates, I don't see any reason for him *not* to consider who his VP should be.

If Senator Clinton was truly the most qualified, the most capable of winning, then she could have proved it - by winning the primaries. After starting out with the most money, the most super delegate backing, the most endorsements at the beginning of the race, Senator Clinton just had to do one thing to convince us of her electability in the fall:

Win.

But instead, she squandered her huge monetary lead, lost contests, failed to even understand the rules of delegates in certain states. If she is unable to win the Democratic Primary race with such a huge lead, then I'm sorry - she has proven herself to *not* be the strongest candidate.

Instead of "ruthless", you might want to call her opponent Senator Obama who managed to outraise, our run, and out vote her at every turn by his actual title: The winner.

Obama has won this nomination. As Crat3's post suggests, she and her supportes want to disrespect the Democratic process and make their own rules, while begging for money to pay off $31 million in mounting debts.
It is in Obama's best interest to behave as the presumptive nominee, because he is the presumptive nominee. Clinton's attempts to aid McCain in the fall are not a legitimate reason for Obama to just roll over.
Ever independent thinking political analyst and common sense American, understand we pick presidents with delegates. Obama has won this race. Get over it.

Crat3

That's a lot of words of denial.

Nice to see you're assisting Hillary in begging for money. In consideration of the fact that your candidate can't keep a campaign pocketbook -remember, she started this process with significant leads in cash, momentum, name recognition and popularity(Wife of a former President, c'mon) - she has squandered all of her advantages by running a horrendous campaign. No amount of your blah blah blahing can change that fact. It's over. He won.

This thing has been over for awhile.

Jim Webb, Wesley Clark, or Katherine Sebelius IMO would be excellent VP choices for Obama. No matter whom he picks, I trust Obama will make the wisest decision possible. As our future President, he has the sound judgment and wisdom to choose the best possible person for the VP job.

OBAMA / WEBB 08!!!!!

Oh please, I was ready to vote for Hillary had she been the nominee, but this is TOO much.....I can'believe that Hillary, as a lawyer would want to to overturn the DNC rules. Then many states and voters could start suing on this. She agreed and so did Harold Ickes to the DNC rules and now they want to change them to plea their case? This is an insult to the American voters. She is not ahead in the popular vote. No one has agreed to that number because there are caucuses that haven't reported their popular votes. Besides, in Michigan there were many people who didn't vote because Obama was not on the ticket. Does she want to disenfranchise those voters too? It goes both ways. This is all a bunch of nonsense just to advance her case and get the VP slot.

I guess her supporters forget that she and Bill offered the VP spot to Sen. Obama after he beat her by double digits is a primary contest. I guess they also forget she is on tape saying MI and FL violated the rules and should not be counted. But hey why let a small thing like thwe truth get in the way of a good victim story.

OBAMA/SHALALA `08! Only kidding, doo wop. OBAMA/WEBB WILL WIN THE WHITE HOUSE IN 2008!!!

I was wrong all along. I stand corrected and apologize for all the divisive comments I have made thus far. My comments have not been supportive or constructive to the Democratic position.

The delegates (both super and pledged) speak for themselves and they have chosen Obama.

Go Obama!

I am convinced Obama will pick a Republican as a running mate. My guess is Hagel.

Obama in 08!

Webb is good a match superficially - adds a tough alpha military feel to Obama's metrosexual/elite academic brand - but they won't do it for two reasons. First, he is just as inexperienced as Obama, which will be something they'll want to counter against McCain. Second, it's not often we get a Dem Sen in VA (who looks likely to stick around), and it'd be a shame to give that up.

He'll go elderstatesmen. Biden wouldn't shock me.

And everyone chill with the infighting...follow Obama's lead and be gracious (or just ignore) silly Hil shills. Obama has a weak underbelly with certain demographics and it's foolish to keeping spatting.

I hope Obama picks Kathleen Sebelious of Kansas.A wise and prudent governor who has worked really hard for the people of Kansas. She has integrity, wisdom, and vision. She would make a great President if tragically necessary. Sebelius has been an ardent advocate for farming, women and children issues, and foreign oil independence. As a veteran, I support Mrs. Sebelius, a true Jayhawk, for high degree of care on veterans welfare and their families. With Mrs. Sebelius as a running mate, Obama will have a great asset on his ticket. Farmer's and Veterans for Obama!!!!

Crat3 is on drugs. Can I have some! they sound like they're really a trip!

Jim Johnson may not be the right man for the job. He has a poor track record. Ferraro was a disaster and almost had to withdraw because of press reports about her husband. Instead of being an asset she was a terrible distractions. Edwards, whatever his other qualifications, did a lousy job as VP candidate. He virtually disappeared for two months and was useless against Chaney in debates. Hopefully Obama will have better judgment and will rely on a broader circle of advisers than Johnson.

Hillary's race for the nomination reminds me of the children's book, "The Tortorse and the Hair". Hillary thought she was an easy winner, took a big lead, then napped after Super Tuesday. Obama prodded along in a slow and steady pace collecting delegates from all states especially from the 10 wins in a row while Hillary was napping.

Now Hillary can't believe she's lost b/c she can't believe it was a nomination, not a corination.

Wow!! crat3 you got turned around in less that 3 and a half hours. Epiphany baby! Epiphany! If Clinton isn't happy about it, she should initiate her own VP search. It is a free country. Obama announced he was going to Florida and she dropped everything, cleared her calendar and flew to Florida... only to make statements that suggest that Obama's nomination will be illegitimate, it will be like Zimbabwe... The record shows that the nicest things have been said about for a long while.
I am taking bets.... Sebelius of Kansas for VP (similar politics of reaching across party lines) Hagel for DOHLS and Webb for DOD

cat3 makes me want to have a national 'purging' where we weed out all the pig headed Neanderthals that keep f-ing up our future.

Is this true? He is not the NOMINEE as yet..The remaining SUPER DELEGATES were bought over by the Clinton's insiders, billionaires, who have threatened the WEAK Nancy Pelosi to stay quiet.. I was looking at PBS and observed how NERVOUS she was and absolutely cautious about what she was saying. So I still think it is too premature for Obama to look for a VP. Rachel Maddo show was superb in explaning the reasons for Clinton's continuation and how this will create the DEMISE of the democratic party. In my opinion, Rachel was very GENUINE regarding the views she made yesterday...So if I were Obama, I will not start doing anything like that..Or, is this a RUMOR?

Clare McCaskill for VP....

This will finally shut the door on Clinton and win over most of her supporters.

Mark Warner of Virginia would be a great choice, but he is already taking the senate seat there.

I would say: Richardson, Sebelius, Napolitano, Granholm, Bayh, Rendell. Napolitano would be fun because she would add AZ as a serious fight. Rendell, Granholm would secure MI or PA and Bayh would put Indiana in play. Tim Kaine from VA would be a good choice too.

crat3 is Hillary's equal in ambitious idiocy: no end of their ambition and no end to think everyone else is an idiot. Go fly a kite!

As a supporter of change, I welcomed the nomination of either Clinton or Obama for the Dems. Although, I must admit that Hillary was my first choice for the presidential nominee. Since it seems that Obama is going to take it for the Dems, I of course will be behind him 100% and hope that he takes this country back to its roots and out of the dark hole that Bush has dug for the American citizens with his stupidity and greed. I hope that Obama gives great thought to his running mate selection (as I am sure he will). It would be disappointing if Hillary is not one of his top choices and if she is not considered for VP, I would hope she would be considered for his cabinet. I would have to say, top choices for Obama should be Richardson with Biden coming in as a close second. Good luck, Barrack! This country needs hope and a president we can respect again!!!

Many good options. Should be an interesting process collecting resumes and narrowing the choices. I am all for Biden, Sibelius, Daschle, Dodd, Richardson, Edwards (really want him for attorney general), Nancy Pelosi. I do not know the other two women governors. I see a LOT of bloggers talking about Kathleen Sibelius. This shows some traces of influence from Michael Moore's idea ... and shows that some people know Sibelius. Said Moore, You heard it here first!!! I did but I've seen her at work thanks to C-Span and she's got it. The integrity IT.

To all Clinton supporters,my fellow Americans and friends of Hilliary Clinton the process for the Democratic Party nominee is still on but the call from the far left wing for our candidate to exit the race and hand Obama the win is slowly taking its toll.In repudiate to Obamas camp and their desire we cannot let this happen even if we end up losing.We will support a candidate of our own choosing in the general election even if we end up with the GOP nominee is much better than the Democrats shuffled us aside.John Mccain we support but not a freshman senator and inexperience candidate and what a humiliated for the Party? It is too late for any hope of a dream ticket except we accept with humility this experience that may very well become a reality soon.

Obama / Sebelius 2008

Hillary Clinton has won more primaries than Barack H. Obama bin Laden.

Obama is a great "caucus campaigner" and is very good at selecting religious counsel.

Whatever, you have your candidate. Just dont expect me to vote for Barack.

I started a Draft Claire for Governor in which we had over 75 team captains statewide in 2003. She instead became a US Senator two years later. Claire McCaskill was a prosecutor in Kansas City, a single mom while serving as state representative for 3 terms and then a State Auditor. Her knowledge of local, state, and Federal levels of governments and how they work is extremely important. There has likely never been a vice presidential candidate which such a record of service.

She has become known as a center of the road legislator fighting for anti ear mark legislation and an accountability office for expenditures on the war. What she is most noticed for is that she has a pulse of the people that comes naturally and speaks out for the people when something is not in their best interest concerning government or important issues. Yes two inspiring candidates who bring out the best in people on the ticket sound real good.

Steven L. Reed
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Springfield MO
stevenlloydreed@hotmail.com

As a Republican who is leaning toward voting for Barack Obama this November, most specifically on the Iraq War issue, I would be very disappointed to see Obama choose Clinton as a running mate. If that were the case, I would have to withdraw my support and find yet another ticket worthy of my vote - a third party ticket. The GOP is not entirey satisfied with McCain's candidacy; if Obama includes Clinton on his ticket it automatically nullifies the message of change he has been conveying. Why would Obama risk his cross-party appeal by adding such a polarizing figure to the ticket? She is viscerally disliked by people both left and right. Many Americans, regardless of Party or affiliation, would like to see someone new breathing a new life into our political discourse. NO TO HILLARY FOR VP!

Why is Webb such a good VP candidate? This is the man that walked away crying from the Reagan administration because he could not have all the budget he claimed he needed. He has been a loose cannon ever since.

Webb is a war hero (Like McCain) and will probably be a good senator someday--perhaps as good a senator as he is a writer. But a VP? Not now, and not in forseeable future.

Rather premature for bo to be selecting a VP. Men and their egos.
However, when Sen. Clinton does win the nomination, I hope she doesn't select bo. He would only get the country in trouble with his lack of experience. He needs to stay where he is and build a record for himself. I myself prefer Action to Rhetoric. GO HILLARY!!!!!!

I tend to agree that Jim Webb would be a superb vp candidate, I am also intrigued by Obama;s reference of late to "A team of Rivals" and think that it gives an opening for Hillary. Chuck Hagel is intriging, as is Janet Neapolia of Arizona, and I would not discount Bill Richardon. But how about the bloviator, Joe Biden. I think he and Obama would be great together. It would be hard to imagine one seeing Biden as "elite". His open style would add great contrast to Obama;s rather contained style. And he has the issues down. Strickland of Ohio is a possibility if you want to give it to a Hillary supporter.

I am a US Constitutionalist so therefore I tend to lean libertarian (Ron Paul). I probably will vote for Bob Barr or John McCain. Only if Obama picks Jim Webb would I consider Obama.

I am against mandatory 'government health' and I don't trust Obama on Economics because I don't trust Deval Patrick, who seems to be a chief adviser. I didn't like the fact that Deval Patrick went on a personal spending spree at the public's expense as one of the first acts of his administration.

William Ayers, Franklin Davis etc seriously connected with BARACK HUSSEIN OSAMA. William Ayers a TERRORIST, FRANKLIN DAVIS KNOWN COMMUNIST IS BARACK HUSSEIN OSAMA'S MENTOR AND IDOL, BARACK HUSSEIN OSAMA HAS ADMITTED TO ATTENDING SOCIALIST MEETINGS IN THIS COUNTRY, HIS FATHER A NOTED COMMUNIST, THE LIST GOES ON, AND YOU YELLOW BELLY LEFT WING ANUS WIPE DEMOCRATS CALL YOURSELF AMERICAN'S?