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Polls hint at Clinton surge

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor May 1, 2008 04:36 PM

A bevy of new national polls, plus surveys in Indiana and North Carolina -- which hold key primaries on Tuesday -- suggest that Hillary Clinton is closing the gap since her campaign-saving victory in Pennsylvania last week, and that the controversies dogging Barack Obama are having an impact.

UPDATE: In a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey released this afternoon, Obama leads 46 percent to 45 percent among Democrats nationally, down from 52 percent to 45 percent last month.

A national Pew Research Center survey also released today showed that Obama's lead among Democrats has narrowed to 47 percent to 45 percent from 49 percent to 39 percent last month.

In a national Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll, Clinton leads Obama 44 percent to 41 percent. The Illinois senator is viewed unfavorably by 42 percent of all voters, up 9 percentage points since February. Clinton's unfavorable rating is still slightly higher than Obama's, but it has dropped slightly. And by 10 percentage points, Democrats now view Clinton as likelier than Obama to beat presumptive Republican nominee John McCain. Democrats gave Obama a 4-point edge last month.

In a national NBC/Wall Street Journal survey, Obama's lead has narrowed to 46 percent to 43 percent, and his unfavorable ratings have also risen. In March, 51 percent of voters viewed him positively and 28 percent saw him negatively, but in the new poll 46 percent view him favorably, but 37 percent negatively.

In a national New York Times/CBS poll, Obama leads 46 percent to 38 percent among Democrats, but 51 percent say they believe he will be the eventual nominee, down from 69 percent a month ago. And 48 percent of Democratic primary voters said they believe he would be the strongest candidate against McCain, down from 56 percent a month ago.

And in a Quinnipiac University poll, Clinton runs stronger than Obama in match-ups against McCain in the general election swing states of Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Florida. Clinton would get 49 percent to McCain's 41 percent in Florida, leads 48 percent to 38 percent in Ohio, and 51 percent to 37 percent in Pennsylvania.

Obama is statistically tied with McCain in Florida and Ohio, while leading him in Pennsylvania by 47 percent to 38 percent, according to the poll.

The polls were being conducted as Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., was making a series of highly publicized speeches and as Obama repudiated him.

In North Carolina, a new WRAL-TV poll says that Obama's lead has narrowed to 49 percent to 42 percent, down from double digits in most prior polling.

In Indiana, where the race had been a toss-up in surveys last week, Clinton now leads in the three most recent polls. She is ahead 46 percent to 41 percent in a Rasmussen survey, 50 percent to 42 percent in Public Polling Policy survey, and 52 percent to 43 percent in a SurveyUSA poll.

196 comments so far...
  1. Who cares?

    Just vote already.

    Posted by yawn May 1, 08 10:22 AM
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  1. I care. Vote for Hillary....and God Bless America...

    Posted by Connie Rug May 1, 08 10:49 AM
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  1. It's great that Hillary just can't survive with someone more popular than her. Bitch. She's ruining it for the Democrats.

    Posted by LM May 1, 08 10:51 AM
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  1. She sounds good, she looks good -- she can do it!

    Posted by Tara May 1, 08 10:59 AM
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  1. If you're so bored, why are you reading and posting? Your post is making all of us yawn

    Posted by MsPiff May 1, 08 11:23 AM
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  1. Well what do you expect, with the media going into orbit with 24-hour Wright coverage again? As if we did not hear enough about it the first time. You'd think Wright was running for president. Honestly, I think the fact that Obama has maintained as much support as he has with the coverage he has gotten speaks to his strength. If you are going to vet the candidates why not vet them on their own actions, and why not do it fairly? McCain has been getting a free ride for months.

    Posted by Laura May 1, 08 11:27 AM
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  1. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!! VOTE FOR HILLARY!!!

    Posted by joe black May 1, 08 11:33 AM
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  1. Many people care: Obama gained his delegate lead before the Wright cotnroversy surfaced. He got many votes he would not get today. If I could vote again, I would not vote for Obama. I would like my vote back, and I would like it given to Clinton. Superdelegates, can you hear me? Don't let the far left nuts lead us into another disaster. America will never elect someone who is unpatrotic, and Obama was clearly very involved with that nutcase Wright.

    Posted by realist May 1, 08 11:34 AM
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  1. It's a shame that smear campaigns work so well, as indicated by the polls. It may preclude America from having the best leader we've seen in a generation from winning the nomination or the general election. Please consider the following quote from a better writer than I (sorry I lost the source):

    "Why is it that the rules are different for Barack Obama, the African-American candidate, than the rules for Hillary Clinton and John McCain, the white candidates? Does it come from an inherent unfairness due to generations of stereotyping, or does it possibly result from an xenophobic fear of those who are different from us? Is it simply media in a feeding frenzy or is it scorched earth politics from blind ambition that destroys innocent people’s reputations just to gain advantage?


    What am I talking about? I’m talking about the elephant in the room that everyone ignores. The elephant is the different standards we have for a black candidate than we have for a white one. Is it true? Absolutely. Here are a few examples: Neither Hillary or McCain wear flag pins on their lapels. Obama gets blasted by the media and right wing hate sites for not wearing one. Why is that? Why is it that he gets the question about it in every debate, but it’s never been asked of the other candidates? Why do Hillary and McCain get a free pass? Obama is clearly a patriotic American who says the pledge of allegiance and loves his country, but is continually questioned in the media about that.

    Hillary has been knowingly married to a lying, philandering skirt chaser for 33 years. She never gets her judgment or character questioned about that. McCain is on his second marriage to a woman he dated while still married to his first wife. He never gets questions about that. So, then, why is it that Obama, married for 16 years to Michelle, and father to 2 beautiful daughters, has his character, family values, and judgment continually called into question while the media COMPLETELY IGNORES Hillary’s and McCain’s dysfunctional family life and judgment?


    John McCain actively sought the endorsement of John Hagee, a war mongering, racist, radical right wing preacher who’s known for his fiery rhetoric and has publicly called the Catholic church “the great whore”. The media gives him a pass, yet Obama is continually raked over the coals for his relationship with his pastor who has also made inflammatory statements. What is the difference? Where is the media outrage over John Hagee? Non-existent.


    Hillary and Bill have earned over $100 million in the last 10 years, not counting 2007. McCain is married to a woman estimated to be worth over $100 million. Obama, who started with nothing, earned $4 million from book sales last year. Who’s the elitist in the media’s eyes? Obama. CNN even gave McCain a complete pass on Cindy not releasing her tax returns and actually listed him below Obama in family net worth. They’ve also completely ignored him using her private jet in apparent violation of his own campaign finance law.


    McCain also admits he understands little about the economy, continually gaffs on foreign policy, yet the media paints Obama as the lightweight. Hillary has little more experience than Obama in government service or management, grossly inflates her participation in her husband's administration, yet she gets a pass on her lie that she has 35 years experience, and again, Obama gets painted as inexperienced.

    Hillary and McCain are both well known for not being able to hold their tempers. In fact she's famous for her lamp incident with Bill, so what happens? Obama gets painted as "too nice". Come again?

    What’s going on here? After watching this for over a year, I’ve come to the conclusion that it is just what I feared: Incipient racism, xenophobia; organic in form, subtle, yet plain as the nose on your face if you just look for it. To me, there is no other logical reason for the two sets of rules, the unfairness of coverage, the application of standards.

    Food for thought."

    Posted by Glenn Wahl May 1, 08 11:38 AM
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  1. Obama is a polarizing and divisive figure. He promised us change, and has instead lead us into a quagmire. This latte-sipping America-hating holier-than-thou candidate will never be elected President. He should drop out now and think about what a loser he really is.

    Posted by John May 1, 08 11:38 AM
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  1. She can't do it. Learn math.

    Posted by Jason May 1, 08 11:43 AM
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  1. I'm a 50 year old white woman, and I'd never vote for Hillary Clinton. Her campaign tactics are deplorable. They will stop at nothing and say anything to win. They lack morals and principles. Broken promises will litter the land if they win the presidency.

    I also have major doubts in Hillary's ability to keep our country safe. She wants to obliterate Iran. The woman also fantasizes about sniper fire. Maybe she wants to go down in history as the president who started WWIII.

    The country would be much better with Obama at the helm.

    Posted by Judy May 1, 08 11:43 AM
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  1. The Democratic Party and their constituents consider yourselves the party of the people. The true believers in democracy and justice for all, unless it goes against your personel viewpoint.
    Let Hillary and Obama run till the end. What's the problem. If your the open minded, democracy loving, yada yada party where are all the complaints coming from?

    For the record, I am an Independent, and with good reasons. Do you people ever stop to listen to yourselves? To listen to others in your party? The same people you supposedly share ideals with?

    You might want to rethink things. You sound like close-minded, intolerant bigots against anyone and everyone, anything and everything that doesn't adhere to YOUR limited opinion.

    God help your party.

    Posted by Beth May 1, 08 11:45 AM
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  1. Did you say Lies. .Here are a few of Obama's Lies:

    1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, you were born in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
    2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
    3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had
    4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.
    5.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
    6.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
    7.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
    8.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
    9.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
    10.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.
    11.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
    12.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
    13.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
    14.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 PRESENT VOTES.
    15.) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
    16.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
    17.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
    18.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn’t write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.
    19.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
    20.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
    21.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of May, 1 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
    22.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
    23.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
    24.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
    25.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
    26.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
    27.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.
    28.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.
    29.) I Didn’t Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you ran ads ONLY along the florida border as well as national ads in an attempt to reach Florida voters 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.
    30.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn’t.
    31.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.
    32.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.
    33.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
    34.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself.
    35.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has finally stopped saying this.
    36.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer (a fellow democrat that wanted you to replace her in the next term) from running against you by challenging ALL of her signatures and thus running unapposed.
    37.) I Don’t Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.
    38.) I don’t Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
    39.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
    40.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about your advertising to MySpace clients.
    41.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other people’s words.
    42.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.
    43.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date in Iraq - AGAIN.
    44.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it.
    45.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no records of any such letters ever being created or sent.
    46.) My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR, your wife’s words follow lock-step in the vein of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.
    47.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn’t Support - LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quater of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.
    48.) Treehouse Is A Small Company - LIAR, the CEO of Treehouse last year, made more than the CEO of Wal-Mart, according to public records.
    49.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair - LIAR, your wife’s pay raise was nearly 150% her already bloated rate (going from $120K to $320K) and the hospital is a Non-Profit Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They overcharge blacks VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in general by 538%!
    50.) I Barely Know Rezko - Only 5 Billed Hours - LIAR, you have known him for 17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you divided your property and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started. Then Rezko’s wife buys the lot beside it that you can’t afford, saving you $625,000.
    51.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly - LIAR, you only gave back Hsu ($72K) and Rezko (first $66K, then when caught lying $86K, then when caught lying again $150K and now caught lying YET AGAIN OBAMA, it’s $250k) their money when publically called on their involvement in your campaigns.
    52.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church - LIAR, your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year.
    53.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time - LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message - hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK - that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.
    54.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko - LIAR, you are not only connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi, who ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Mr. Auchi was also found guilt in another political corruption scandal (largest in France since WWII). And This is one of Obamas' good supporters that paid millions into the Obama campaign.
    55.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright’s, that have been in videos all day, You Tube - LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa speech you said “Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church? Yes I did.” FLIP-FLOPER
    56.) The Passport Invasion is a conspiracy to find dirt on me! - LIAR. Your own Campaign Foreign Policy Advisor is the CEO of the company that looked into your records. Could it be that you had them look into yours to hide the fact you looked into Clinton’s and McCain’s more than a year before!
    57.) Rev. Meeks has nothing to do with my campaigning - LIAR. Rev. Meeks appeared in ads for your Senate Campaign, donated to you, and helped raise money, then AND NOW. He also seems to despise America as much as Rev. Wright.
    58.) My wife didn’t mean America is ignorant, she was just using a phrase - LIAR. Again, MicHELLe’s comments are perfectly in sync with Wright’s, Meeks’, and Farrakhans, both in language, anger, and direction.
    59.) I am very Anti-Terror - LIAR. [03/30/2008] One of your good pals is long time radical and terrorist William Ayers, with whom you have been seen in the last 12 months and who has helped the now jailed khalidi, Professor at Columbia who invited Ahmadinejad to the University, to raise money for Palestinian terrorism attacks against Israel. PS - Your church published a pro Hamas Manifesto - guess you weren’t there on THAT Sunday either? How lucky for you.
    60.) I have the best plan to cure the Mortgage Crisis - LIAR. [03/30/2008] You and your campaign buddy Penny SubPrime Bank Collapse Prizker have had your little fingers full of subprime cash - Obama has taken $1,180,103 from the top issuers of subprime loans: Obama received $266,907 from Lehman, $5395 from GMAC, $150,850 from Credit Suisse First Boston, $11,250 from Countrywide, $9052 from Washington Mutual, $161,850 from Citigroup, $4600 from CBASS, $170,050 from Morgan Stanley, $1150 from Centex, and last but certainly NOT LEAST - Obama received $351,900 from Goldman Sachs. I am sure that cash all came from folks who knew the subprime loan they had was a dream, eh?
    61.) I played greater role in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion - LIAR - [03/31/2008] It was found that Obama — the day after sitting for the interview — filed an amended version of the questionnaire, which appears to contain Obama’s own handwritten notes added to one answer. Read Obama had greater role on liberal survey
    62.) I did NOT play the race card: - LIAR - [03/31/2008] Obama was the first to play the race card. According to Phialdelphia Inquirer, Quietly, the storm over the hateful views expressed by Sen. Barack Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has blown away the most insidious myth of the Democratic primary campaign. Obama and his surrogates have charged that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has deliberately and cleverly played the race card in order to label Obama the “black” candidate. Read more here

    Posted by Kuilor2k May 1, 08 11:46 AM
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  1. GO HILLARY!!!

    Posted by michele May 1, 08 11:47 AM
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  1. I need a pain killer! Get it over with already!

    Posted by WTF May 1, 08 11:48 AM
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  1. I am an Obama supporter. I'm hoping that ALL democrats will vote for our nominee in November, no matter who gets the nod. I find it so frustrating that there are identity groups in our party who would rather stay home or vote for McCain than stand up for their own interests.
    An abstinence from voting or a vote for McCain would result in:
    1)Lower funding for education at all levels,
    2)More regressive taxes where poorer people pay a much larger proportion of their income than richer people,
    3)Less funding for science, technology, and green initiatives,
    4)A call for "Energy Independence" that would include drilling for oil in the ANWR and Everglades, and more 'mountaintop removal' coal mining,
    5)The appointment of at least two Supreme Court justices who would presumably be conservative constructionists and overturn Roe v Wade, allow torture, and condone the erosion of our civil liberties,
    6)The extension of an unpopular, expensive war in Iraq that isn't doing average Americans any good and is projected to cost at least one TRILLION dollars (already),
    7)Illogical tax cuts that consist of borrowing money from China to pay our bills now. Who gets to pay our debt to China? I DO.
    In 20 years many of the most vehement partisans on both sides of this nomination (and general election) will be GONE, leaving me and my family to care for our parents and millions of other aging boomers while making less money and paying more taxes in a Chinese-controlled, globally warming, dangerous planet.
    If you don't vote democrat because Hillary gets the nomination (if you're black or male), or if Obama gets the nomination (if you're female or white) then you AREN'T just making a statement...
    YOU'RE SCREWING YOUR OWN KIDS OVER!
    VOTE DEMOCRAT NO MATTER WHAT! PLEASE!

    Posted by student May 1, 08 11:48 AM
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  1. Americans dont deserve a good president. If people are so caught up in this Wright thing it just shows the immaturity and mental retardation of the American people (or should I say the American children).

    Whens omeone can tell me how Rev. Wright's comments and Obama's membership in the church is any different than other racist, xenophobic GOP pastors I'd love to hear it.

    Say something anti-gay, anti-black, anti-women then you're just preaching the gospel. Speak the truth about American foriegn policy then you're somehow reverse racist (a term which is hilarious to me).

    If peopel cant see right through this BS then they deserve to have Clinton or McCain in office. I just wish other people's stupidity didn't affect me.

    Posted by Josh N. May 1, 08 11:50 AM
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  1. Well,.. Vote for Mrs. Clinton,... she did run this country for 8 years before,.. got us out of a huge money crunch, everyone had jobs,.... go figure,... Vote Hillary!!

    Posted by Jessica M May 1, 08 11:50 AM
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  1. How come their is no Talk of WHITE Lunatic Pastors.....Do I need to list them or shouold we just let McCain slide on this one? By not giving equal attention to White pastors who make just as incidiary remarks the Media is playing the biggest race card of them all!

    Posted by Honky Tonk Man May 1, 08 11:50 AM
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  1. I care, and Iam voting for Hillary.........I can no longer trust anything Obama says!!!!

    Posted by Sandy May 1, 08 11:51 AM
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  1. FOX POLL!!! HELLO!! Fox news is the media arm of the Republican Party. They want Hillary to win so McCain can mop up the floor with her. I know Republicans who are fed up with the way things are going, and who will vote for Obama, but NOT for Hillary. Don't be chumps again people.

    Posted by Bob May 1, 08 11:51 AM
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  1. A whole generation with only Bush or Clinton as President is depressing.

    Posted by Bill Strouse May 1, 08 11:51 AM
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  1. I have been a Hillary basher for several years but I watched her on ORielly last night and did the unthinkable - I was impressed with her discussion and answers. I am a typical white republican most of the time but we need change and Obama is not ready for prime time yet. He may be someday but not today. Hillary has shown spunk that I hadn't seen before and I want a leader who is a fighter. She is. McCain is not my choice but may have to be if Obama wins the nomination. Of course Hillary could go independent at that point and who knows. If Obama can't even bridge the gap with his pastor of twenty years what can he possibly do for the American people.

    Posted by D. Ray May 1, 08 11:52 AM
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  1. Hillary asked "why didn't Obama leave his church after all the negative preaching?'
    I've always wondered why she didn't leave Bill after all the negative things he did to her. If Bill Clinton found the time for Monica while he was President and Hillary was there at the White House, what do you think he would find the time to do as first mate and he's not busy running the country? If we had a male President and his wife acted like Bill Clinton, he wouldn't be even considered for President because his wife has to fit a certain protocol. Why would we even consider a woman President who's husband is known to stray. Why would we use our tax dollars to support such actions. When he was President so much our money went toward investigations of his unscrupleous acts. Do we really want to do it again?

    Posted by Gwendol May 1, 08 11:52 AM
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  1. Does it really matter which Democrat gets the nomination? The party will fall apart over it and we will have another four years of McBush. Whoever got the nomination has then affirmed that either 'a woman is unelectable' or 'an African American is unelectable'.

    The future's so bright I gotta wear shades.

    Posted by Rolf Ernst May 1, 08 11:52 AM
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  1. vote McCain

    Posted by chris May 1, 08 11:53 AM
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  1. 1+1+1=3 Obama leads in all 3 counts that matter, and he`won't be caught. HC efforts are a waste of time and destroying the democratic goodwill. He is obviously closer to real people than HC could ever be. On a photo op yesterday in Indiana, she did not know how to pump gas (her secret service detail normally does that!!!!)

    Posted by PJG444 May 1, 08 11:53 AM
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  1. How about the latest Insider Advantage poll?
    Hillary is ahead in NC by 2pt !!!

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html

    Go girl! You can do it!

    Posted by Karl May 1, 08 11:53 AM
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  1. all obana entitalist are sick that the truth about obama is finally being told, He is a racist who tried running with the sheep.

    well, the american public if finally seeing the real obama, and if the primaries were run now, Hillary would win in a massacre.

    Hillary deserves this nomination, and most democrats know that an obama win would be just giving the white house back to the republicans.

    can you live with that??? vote hillary.

    Posted by rosco_rhemer May 1, 08 11:53 AM
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  1. Not noted is that these polls ended on tuesday, before most people saw Obama repudiating Wright, we need to see what happenes with that before we can judge the effect on Obama

    Posted by axt113 May 1, 08 11:54 AM
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  1. Questions ... Obama did not vote for Iraq war... Good or bad?

    What if he got lot of support from nation of Islam & Louis Farrakhan and hence
    is having a soft corner ......

    Do you want OBAMA as president and have some one who has friends like this
    be our commander in chief.

    Posted by rg May 1, 08 11:55 AM
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  1. Polarizing yes, divisive maybe to some. But lead into a quagmire? Who is he leading? Unless you live in his state Obama and are a part of his constituency - he isn't leading anything ... yet.

    But seeing all of these posts I'm glad the 2008 voters are so well educated and in tune with the issues (). Whoever wins, I can foresee that they will be the candidate that these people deserve.

    Oh and I second Glenn Wahl's post. I guess white America is still too ashamed to admit that bottom-line they are still racists at heart.

    "Obama is a polarizing and divisive figure. He promised us change, and has instead lead us into a quagmire. This latte-sipping America-hating holier-than-thou candidate will never be elected President. He should drop out now and think about what a loser he really is."

    Posted by Paul Makor May 1, 08 11:56 AM
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  1. The only conservative is Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton can Beat McCain as McCain is nothing more than a democrat in a good suit aka a republican.

    Obama is an empty vessel. Neither he nor his wife have any respect for This Country or the People in it. There is a saying here in Texas that fits Obama to a T. "It's All talk and no cattle".

    Posted by Lisa T May 1, 08 11:57 AM
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  1. Clinton all the way. I wish all these obamaniacs would just agree that she is a viable candidate. there is no reason for her to drop out of this thing now. I'm a true blue democrat, and im going to support whoever the nominee is. They both make me proud.

    Posted by Joe May 1, 08 11:58 AM
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  1. The comments under these dem feud stories are always based on opinion yet more often than not seem written in religious self-certainty. These stories always get the most comments, I assume from campaign aides.

    Posted by robin May 1, 08 11:58 AM
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  1. They're both stupid socialists and McLame isn't much better. I'll vote for none of the above. Hopefully someone else gets in the race.

    Posted by Rob Peterson May 1, 08 11:59 AM
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  1. Does golden boy not also tarnish? The more light shed, the less brilliant his halo.

    Posted by Whys May 1, 08 12:00 PM
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  1. I think Obama remains the candidate that has differentiated himself the most dramatically,(then Hillary and John). He showed a clear desire to stay out of the fray with Wright, until Wrights ego forced him to denounce Wright's controversial opinions. Rightfully so,
    The gas tax really clarifies it. It is a simple, small issue, but Obama seems to be the only one who recognizes the state of America's roads. After all, a federal gas tax holiday means there is less revenue for repair. At 18 cents less per gallon for a whole summer I would save $45.36 cents for the whole summer.I'd rather spend my money on compact flourescent lights, and save the repair bill costs for new struts from driving my car over pot holes.

    Posted by Marc Pieper May 1, 08 12:01 PM
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  1. Seriously, folks - for the sake of the Republican Party and teh continued corruption in the country, do as Rush Limbaugh directs you to do and please - PLEASE vote Hillary!!
    The clear choice for those who don't mind corruption as long as they elected it!

    Posted by Rick P. May 1, 08 12:01 PM
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  1. It tells you everything you want to know about Obama that people like poster #3, LM, are for him. Read that piece of garbage and think, Do I want this type of person to determine who the next President is? It tells you a lot about a candidate what kind of people he attracts. I read posts like that and think, thank God for the Secret Service.

    Posted by JP May 1, 08 12:02 PM
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  1. 19% of the voters say race matters. (add in those that lied and it's probably 25%)
    15% ignorantly believe Obama is a Muslim

    How many are on this site now?????

    Posted by jdmac3ct May 1, 08 12:03 PM
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  1. This campaign is very long and it still has a very long way to go....amazing how during each one of its mood swings, punditry makes pronouncements and then watches as the tide turns again...in this instance, the tide had not even started to wash upon our shores...there are many surprises up ahead and America is going to be the better for it.

    Posted by Nat May 1, 08 12:03 PM
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  1. `Obama is full of baloney. He can't talk about anything unless he is given questions ahead of time. Don't get me wrong, I can't stand Hillary either. I'm Republican and no I'm not happy with my choice either, but what alternative do we have?

    Hillary would eat Obama for lunch if he accepts a non-moderated debate. He won't know what to answer!!!

    Posted by Tony Washington, D.C. May 1, 08 12:03 PM
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  1. I am and always have supported Obama. He is the right person at the right moment. I am concerned of not only the same old politics, but the Clinton transparency is repulsive and the hubris of her campaign is the same as the hubris currently in Washington. I have never turned on a politician more than I have on Hillary and her husband. If she is the nominee, not only will the Democrats lose a whole generation of voters, but the chances of spreading the democratic message to states that have been traditionally red is out. If she becomes the nominee, I will, under no circumstances, vote for her. I will simply vote for Nader or write in Obama so to as to exercise my constitutional right.

    Posted by mark sheeran May 1, 08 12:03 PM
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  1. Has nobody seen this story about Clinton and this missle magnetics factory in Indiana? Basically, they provide the magnets for some sophisticated missles, and Bush sold the company and secret intelligence to China, and it cost jobs and threatens our national security. Clinton and Bayh have been campaigning hard on this, even a commercial about it. Except it's a lie, a big one. President Bill Clinton allowed the company to be sold, not George Bush. Her husband, not her pastor or some guy she knows, both of whom are friends with the Clintons ironically, but anyway... And the kicker, the president of the company was contacted by the Clinton campaign previous to the ads to confirm their facts. And when he told them they were making things up, they ignored him unequivocally, sound familiar?

    Posted by Alex May 1, 08 12:04 PM
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  1. Hillary and Wright are closer together than Obama and Wright.
    Hillary and Bill INVITED WRIGHT to the WHITE HOUSE FOR DINNER.

    Posted by Sam May 1, 08 12:04 PM
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  1. John - you are so eloquent and made your point with such intelligence and supported by so many facts! Obama's amazing ability to re-energize American politics and attract independent and new voters have demonstrated how divisive he truly is! I must stop sipping lattes and chug beer with you so I can learn the pearls of your right wing wisdom, such as 'Obama is a loser'

    Posted by yawn2 May 1, 08 12:04 PM
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  1. I've changed my VOTE. And it will be for Hillary !
    We don't need a racist in the White House.

    Posted by John Hill May 1, 08 12:04 PM
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  1. John - you are so eloquent and made your point with such intelligence and supported by so many facts! Obama's amazing ability to re-energize American politics and attract independent and new voters have demonstrated how divisive he truly is! I must stop sipping lattes and chug beer with you so I can learn the pearls of your right wing wisdom, such as 'Obama is a loser'

    Posted by yawn2 May 1, 08 12:04 PM
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  1. I still believe that Obama is the best person to lead this country... Clinton offers more of the same old washington, and the office of the persident would become more of a back room meetings in secret,as they were when she was first lady... She is too much for big business as in the peresnt administration, not but difference.

    This country is in need of a whole new direction with new blood and ideas in our leadership. Obama offers that. His campaign as very well managed , unlike Clinton or mccain. He has a number of very good people and advisers around him and I believe he will bring a very wise and educated administration to the White house with him.

    I would not want to see his name on the same running ticket with Clinton, she would always try to up over ruling him and up staging him. It would be the worse thing for his political life. AND i'M SURE HE HAS A VERY GOOD PERSON IN MIND FOR VP.

    Posted by Judith May 1, 08 12:05 PM
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  1. Math doesn't choose the nominee. Hillary has already won. McLaughlin called it. He's ALWAYS right.

    She also hands McCain's rear to him on a plate come November, and be prepared to kiss 66% of the GOP in Congress and their endless wars good-bye as well.

    Posted by xbjllb May 1, 08 12:05 PM
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  1. The incredibly intelligent and critical American People are following the dragged fox, as usual. And as usual, they will be fooled to believe that there will be something good for them at the end of the endless chase. Possible, but not likely if it is Hillary of the Tattooed Smile, or McCain of the Thousand Years War.

    Sure, she surges. So did Bill, but that was in another context.

    Posted by Richard McDonough May 1, 08 12:06 PM
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  1. I'm an Independent. Had the general election been held in February, I would have voted for Obama over McCain. As the primary drama has drawn out, I've see all the talk of "change" being nothing but empty words. Let Obama & Hillary keep fighting it out. I will be voting for McCain.

    Posted by Jeffery May 1, 08 12:07 PM
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  1. If Obama picks his Presidental Appointments likes he does his Pastors, this country is headed for desaster. His judgment is in question.

    Posted by C. C. Odom May 1, 08 12:08 PM
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  1. This whole process makes me sick. Take someone who is positive and talking about real change and paint them in a corner over something someone else says. What about McCain and Hagge? God brought Katrina because of a Gay Parade? What about Peter Paul and Whitewater? What about Charles Keating? Who brought us NAFTA? Some of you are so focused on the minutia that the media has focused on, you have forgotten that McCain and Hillary are part of the ingrained political problem in this country that has gotten us into this place. Someone calls Obama Latte-sipping America hating. Wow. You have bought this media/republian/Hillary fear card hook, line and sinker. Do you think it all happened in the last 8 years? There were 8 more before that which set the tone for partisan bickering, headed by a Clinton.
    Barack Obama in not perfect but neither are any of us. What he is, is a chance to make some real change in this country that can benefit all of us.
    Enough with Dynastic politics or four more years of Bush policy.
    Let's get this country moving in a new and positive direction.

    Please, do we need experience or common sense and a new vision for this country rather then more fear and politics of hatred.

    Posted by reidsworld May 1, 08 12:08 PM
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  1. Support Operation Chaos: Vote Hillary

    Posted by Greg C May 1, 08 12:09 PM
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  1. I will vote for Hillary if she does not get the Democratic nod it will be McCain..
    She has what it takes and she is for the blue collar workers and the elderly.

    Posted by Joanne Hiller May 1, 08 12:09 PM
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  1. I am so so sad that the American people show themselves to be the silly little people that the media thinks we are. I have not heard anything from the media over the past 4 months that would change my mind about any of the candidates. McCain is still for the war, pandering to the right, and very old. Hillary is still a politician who has never admitted to her part in the Iraq war, still a "good old boy" Washington insider, and is still willing to say or do anything to win. Obama is still someone who wants to try and make a chnge in the way Washington does bussiness, he's still the most inspirational politician in 50 years, and he is still somewhat naive about how rotten our political system really is.

    Do I care that HIllary lied about being sniped at in Bosnia, no, because the story never had anything to do with her ability to be president. Do I care that McCain may have had an affair or two, no. Do I care that Obama's pastor says wild things, no. I do care that Hillary is so tied up in the political machine that she could never change anything in Washington. I do care that McCain graduated in the bottom 1% of his class at Annapolis (it shows an incredible lack of intellegence or self control, or concern for his father and grandfather). I am concerned that Obama wants to be President, it shows a certain lack of judgement to want a job that will likely adversly effect his family.

    Posted by captbilly May 1, 08 12:09 PM
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  1. I look at it this way....

    You like whats going on now in Washington? Stick with what you know, McCain, Clinton. Enjoy another decade of divided politics!

    Want something new step outside of your little holes and look at it as a new way someone that will genuinely do everything they can to bring us together, this country needs to unite again, it is going to hurt repairing the damage done in the last 20 years of the Clinton Bush Regimes. The Comments on race ring hollow to me I know Obama is what this country needs!

    Posted by Doug May 1, 08 12:10 PM
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  1. Umm, can you report the Obama v. McCain numbers for OH and FL?

    Saying they are "statistically tied" doesn't tell us much.

    Posted by Jesus May 1, 08 12:11 PM
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  1. Great. Hillary's changed this to Rocky Balboa (with fangs) vs a retired preacher and black bogey man and the public's buying it. Who'd expect different when everyone (even so called serious journalistic outfits) are buying it and turning the election coverage into celebrity tabloid bonanza. I'm glad the young folks are getting involved but more than a little worried about how they can get any substantive information. Meanwhile, back to Bill Clinton Vs Jesse Jackson and Hillary Clinton vs Jeremiah Wright for the popular coverage of this campaign. Who's running again....oh yeah, its the great white hope vs that muslim guy with the crazed anti-american preacher.

    Posted by Sean O'Neill May 1, 08 12:11 PM
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  1. Glenn makes some excellent points, although we can not dwell on fact that Obama may be unfairly ridiculed because of race or whichever reason. That will absolutely not win any votes.

    Focus should be turned to his electability against McCain. The issues in the Dem party will be addressed which candidate is chosen, Obama or Clinton. So, who is more electable in the short AND long run?

    Clinton has an inherent unlikeable attribute about her. She rubs people the wrong way. So where will all those Obama supporters go if he is knocked out? I have a funny feeling many more Clinton supporters will make the move to Obama if the situation were reversed.

    On another important point, outside of the tangible issues...

    Hillary will do nothing for our image in the international arena and possibly may hurt us. She may do more for woman's rights, but we need to pick our battles in a timely manner. A woman will someday be president, but the national priority in my eyes is improving our international relations. Obama is a proven motivator and will do very well in that regard.

    So, let's get our priorities straight and move to take down the Republican wrecking machine.

    Posted by ryan w May 1, 08 12:12 PM
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  1. Numbers and delegates don't really matter except to some Obama supporters who are not familiar with DNC rules. Those rules state that the DNC and delegates can change their allegiance and go with the person most likely to win!

    Without that rule you could end up witha candidate who might be indicted for money laudering, etc. Then what would you do! If you're going to be a member of a club at least read the rules.

    Posted by jimw May 1, 08 12:12 PM
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  1. Numbers and delegates don't really matter except to some Obama supporters who are not familiar with DNC rules. Those rules state that the DNC and delegates can change their allegiance and go with the person most likely to win!

    Without that rule you could end up witha candidate who might be indicted for money laudering, etc. Then what would you do! If you're going to be a member of a club at least read the rules.

    Posted by jimw May 1, 08 12:13 PM
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  1. what about the new NC poll that shows Hillary in the lead by two points, does the Globe not want to publish that?

    Posted by KG May 1, 08 12:13 PM
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  1. The GOP is focusing all of it's attention on Obama right now. Even KARL ROVE has written an article trying to bolster Clinton's "momentum". Still, superdelegates are turning from Clinton to Obama.

    Clinton has already swift boated herself and they have an easy solution to her in their pocket: A sniper fire Liar vs. a veteran war hero POW. I wonder why we haven't been hearing about that from them?

    To those afraid to support Obama because they fear this nation is too racist to elect him...you are EMPOWERING RACISTS.

    I believe that there is a bigger problem with the number of people afraid that the country is too racist than with the number of people who are actually too racist to vote for the best candidate out there.

    DO NOT GIVE YOUR VOTE AWAY TO THEM!

    Obama has whethered weeks of terrible illigitimate bad press and is still going strong. THis is unprecendented but there is a reason: He is the strongest candidate and he embodies those principles and qualities that are great about our nation. We are not fooled by distractions from dishonest campaigns and sensational media.

    The gas-tax issue is just another clue that he is the best decision maker in the pack. Economic experts agree that McCain and Clinton's plan would raise gas prices and only benefit oil companies!

    I challenge you to step back and take another look at Obama, who knows that dependence on oil is an economic, environmental, and SECURITY issue.

    Posted by jesse May 1, 08 12:13 PM
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  1. Hillary is my candidate and she will make a terrific President. Although it is beyond me to understand why anyone would want the job of cleaning up after Bush, she has the strength and the will power to do it. It'll be for the best of the country to give her the chance.

    Obama's tired tirade against people who voted for the war is baloney. He wasn't around to vote for it. It wasn't that he voted against the war because he wasn't in any office that would allow him to vote. Since he's been in the Senate his votes on the war are indistinguishable from Hillary's. In fact his record in the Senate is not distinguished in any sense of the word. He's tired, he's a fad and I hope we can soon put his candidacy behind us.

    Posted by maggie May 1, 08 12:14 PM
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  1. How can anyone write a post that says, "Wake up people! Vote for Hillary!"? As if Americans are somehow unclear on precisely what Hillary Clinton represents? As if it were just their sense of boredom or laziness that keeps them from rallying around the calculating pseudo-populist of the election to give her the coronation that she feels she deserves?

    Posted by Jamie May 1, 08 12:14 PM
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  1. Hillary is a liar just like her hubby..
    that is what it is....people that love liars.. than vote for them..

    Obama makes more sense and has the same life as most of us.

    The Clintons "109 Million" in a few years... oh please, so are the big
    crooks of all times! Can not be trusted... same old games.

    Voting Obama


    Posted by DeeM May 1, 08 12:15 PM
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  1. 1st choice Obama. 2nd choice McCain. Can't stand combat Hillary.

    Posted by Bill May 1, 08 12:15 PM
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  1. Polls this far from November DON'T MATTER. Need some proof?

    THE 1992 CAMPAIGN: On the Trail; PRESIDENTIAL RACE NOW STABILIZING

    Published: June 19, 1992

    After months of steady gains in polls by undeclared candidate Ross Perot, the race for President has leveled off and stabilized for the past month, according to the Gallup Poll.

    Four polls taken by Gallup since May 18 have shown no significant fluctuations, measuring Mr. Perot's support at 34 to 39 percent, President Bush's at 31 to 35 percent and Mr. Clinton's at 24 to 25 percent.

    In the latest Gallup Poll, taken June 12 to 14 with 1,000 registered voters nationwide, 34 percent preferred Ross Perot, while 32 percent favored President Bush, and 24 percent supported Bill Clinton. The poll had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus four percentage points.

    Posted by Carl in TX May 1, 08 12:15 PM
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  1. I believe that Obama will make a change, if given the opportunity. Who needs another Clinton? Just like we didn't need another Bush.

    TRY SOMETHING NEW, YOU JUST MIGHT JUST LIKE IT.

    And if not give Hillary a chnce after 4 years, she will be back, just like Obama will if either or is not elected.

    Posted by CH May 1, 08 12:16 PM
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  1. HILARY AFTER ALL THESE YEARS OF LYING, BACK STABBING, SAYING ANYTHING/PROMISING ANYTHING TO AQUIRE POLITICAL POWER YOU ARE FINALLY ON YOUR WAY OUT. YOU DON'T HAVE A SNOWBALLS CHANCE IN HELL OF WINNING THE NOMINATION. YOUR TOAST. YOUR APPEARENCE ON THE O' REILLY FACTOR WAS A SHAM AS EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT BILL O'REILLY HAS ALWAYS SUPPORTED YOU AND YOUR (SORRY ABOUT RUINING YOUR BLUE DRESS MONICA) HUSBAND. BILL O'REILLY REALLY DISGRACED HIMSELF WITH THE BAISED INTERVIEW HE DID...HE REALLY IS A JERK AND I FOR ONE WILL NOT WATCH HIS SHOW ANY LONGER. HE'S NOW IN THE GROUP WITH SEAN HANNITY AND RUSH LIMBAUGH...ALL PHONEYS.

    HILARY, AS FOR YOU, DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON YOUR FAT ASS ON THE WAY OUT.

    Posted by BOO-HOO May 1, 08 12:16 PM
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  1. I think it is about time Obama dropped out of the elections - for the sake of the Democratic party!

    He is breaking up the democratic party. He must bow out . It is time.

    He is a flawed candidate that has no experience and cannot run the country. He has poor judgement and is a racist against white people. He cannot win against McCain and will not win since most Clinton supports will vote for McCain if she does not get in.

    It is time to drop out of the race ---Obama---

    Posted by David Levine May 1, 08 12:16 PM
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  1. I don't understand how people can seriously sit there and bash Obama about this stupid pasture thing. So has America come to the point where you are now guilty by association? If that's the case, then shouldn't Hilary be guilty of purgery since her worthless-do-nothing husband and former president blatantly lied to the American people about his abuse of power in the oval office? Obama offers this country such a fresh idea when it comes to Politics and consistently proves he can inspire the common American. If Obama does not get the nomination, the blame will fall solely on the media and we will see McCain as our next president, not another Clinton.

    Posted by Rich May 1, 08 12:17 PM
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  1. If you want to vote for liar and betrayer - vote for Obama. Why liar? Well, he, for sure, lied that he have never heard controvercial comments of his pastor Wright .
    Why betrayer? Because he betrayed his long time pastor whose ideas he shared for a long time.

    Posted by shayan May 1, 08 12:17 PM
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  1. It's unfortunate that people simply are not aware of the fact that the media is not in the business of simply informing the public without bias. The media is controlled by true elitists who, in this instance, want nothing to do with Obama as our next president because that is a threatening proposition for them. He is a principled man who won't be 'bought' for any particular group's agenda. We Americans are so naive. We are about to buy into all the stuff presented to us by the media day after day after day. We think we are free-minded, but we simply take on beliefs that are repeatedly suggested to us by the media. If you want to see something keep watching Fox news and the rest. If you want to know something, turn off the TV and ask yourself who you want to be your president. I'm for an ethical, principle based humanitarian who takes 'the high road' at every turn. We had a Bush, then a Clinton, then a Bush, and now...another Clinton? And what state is our nation in? And we call ourselves free-thinkers.

    Posted by Jim May 1, 08 12:17 PM
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  1. Ozzie Smith was the best short stop to ever play the game. (If nobody else has anything other than opinions to post, why not mine?)

    Posted by C-Man May 1, 08 12:17 PM
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  1. Are so many people truly that ignorant in our country?

    No wonder the world laughs at us...

    First - Calling Barack Hussain Obama African American is a joke! His Mother was White, his father was kenyan. BUT, unlike most African Americans, he was raised in an almost Completely White Household. By his own admission his father was not there most of the time.

    Second - The Media gave BO a free ride early on. They did not bother to report the negatives, because they wanted to steer him to the presidency. When Wright started speaking publicly, members of the media woke up and realized just how bad a candidate he would be, hence they started reporting on his dirt.

    But, let's talk about the person himself, and not his associates.
    Barack was not wearing the flag pin, he said he would not wear it. Why Not? is it an issue? It is now, because that simple act was refused.
    Then he did not place his hand over his heart during the national anthem? WTF? He wants to lead this country, yet he will not proper show respect for the flag?
    Moving on - When Wright started spewing his froth forward, Barack said " I can no more disavow him than I could the black community." Now, Barack has disavowed him vehemently. It was a no win for Barack the minute he decided to quantify his relationship. Barack became the very kind of politician he claims he wants to replace.
    Had he been smart, He would have said - "Rev. Wright is my friend,, He married me and My Wife, he Baptized my children. I do not always believe in the things he says, just as you have friends you may not agree with, however, I will not throw over 20 years of friendship away simply because you disagree with what he says.
    If you want to make an issue, so be it. For me, it is no more an issue than if you had a friend who was an athiest. Because he is an athiest, I should judge you? That is what is wrong with this country now, and I will not perpetuate it."

    Instead, he dumped his friend the minute it looked like it would hurt his candidacy...
    That should scare you alot. If he is willing to give up a long time friend to be president, what will he give up to get his agenda across? You and I would mean nothing in his grand scheme...

    Let's talk the gas tax holiday... Surprise surprise He voted for the same thing in Ill in 2000. He did it during an election year and made sure that the signs were posted showing he did it.
    Politician at work!

    Exon posted a 10.9 Billion Dollar profit this quarter....
    10.9 Billion?
    and we are paying through the nose for gas...
    At Least Sen. Clinton's plan would have done something about that. By imposing a windfall tax on oil companies, to pay for the tax break, you get a double cut.
    It becomes more profitable for oil companies to make less money.

    We need to wake up and smell the political crap around us.

    None of the candidates are perfect....
    For those that do not realize it the last perfect leader - Did not drink, smoke, or do drugs, was an altar boy, Married his high school sweetheart and never had an affair.. You ideal candidate... Was Adolf Hitler....

    Posted by Harry May 1, 08 12:18 PM
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  1. I also endorse Glenn's message. The press is proving that they have the power to select our leaders by how they report or don't report. They have marginalized Obama, and have plenty of ammunition to go after the Clintons if they are somehow awarded the nomination. Perhaps individual reporters are liberal, but those who decide what is to be reported are conservative. They want a con as prez, so they stack the deck to give us what they want.

    Posted by Javalation May 1, 08 12:18 PM
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  1. We need Obama!!! He brings us change to hope in the future that we can hope to change and believe in the future of hope and change!!!!

    Posted by Marouq Assidi May 1, 08 12:18 PM
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  1. Hillary can win this. Obama will lose in the end to McCain. The rebublican hate machine will create too much doubt in the minds of the voters about what Obama truly stands for. Obama will not fight back and we all know what will happen next. The attacks on Hillary by the rebublican hate machine have been unforgiving over many years. For better or worse she is a know commodity in the voters minds. Because of this she can defeat them. Not by much, but she can win.

    Posted by Brian May 1, 08 12:19 PM
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  1. LOL,

    Someone from Texas throwing stones, calling Obama an empty vessel. It would be funny if it weren't to tragic.

    Yes indeed, racial bigoty is still alive and insidiously kicking.

    I used to be a Hillary supporter.

    Now I am appalled by what I see her doing in her campain.

    It appears obvious to me that she has sacrificed some of her morality, and its more important to her to win the office, rather than be the leader this nation so desperately needs at this point in time.

    I'm also saddened to see that it appears that a considerable amount of Hillary's support is simply due to the fact that a lot of women support her, more because she is a woman than anything else.

    Racial is the only kind of bigotry getting displayed these days.

    Sad, very sad.

    Posted by Larry Richardson May 1, 08 12:19 PM
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  1. if you're from Texas Lisa you've got no reason to talk after supporting Bush

    Posted by axt113 May 1, 08 12:19 PM
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  1. Kuilor2k and Michele just to name a few; If I were either of you I would look as diligently about the ones I through my support behind; Do you know whom Peter Paul is and what he has to do with the Clinton's? Do you know that the candidate that you support will be depose by a California Court come November of this year? Ask yourselves why your candidate always end up with some type of dispute when money is involved! Do you wonder why her campaign is disorganized and still owe millions of dollars. If Senator Clinton is mismanaging money with her campaign now and that's a fraction of what she would have to handle if she receives the nomination I think we are in for greater trouble. McCain is running on strengths that he didn't believe in a mere two years ago. He about to change his allegiance to the republican party and I'm searching to find out what changed his mind! People know your candidate so you won't be blind sided in the end. The time you took to list all of Obama faults you should look deeper into to them all. For GOD sake don't cut off your nose to spite your face. Take a deeper look, for once in a long time we have candidates that we can actually choose from! Peter Paul v Clintons google it and find out for yourselves!
    Alistens!

    Posted by Alistens May 1, 08 12:20 PM
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  1. Role Model for Children – Obama

    Two weeks ago Obama gave the 'finger' to Hillary on national television and smugly laughed about it with his audience. Is this type of malicious immaturity what you want your children to learn: lack of tolerance, vengeance and the bully mentality? After that one event, besides the mindless and uneducated, how could anyone seriously consider this Obama for any office?

    Also, Obama's state-senate candidacy was launched at Weather Underground bombers Ayers house in 1995. Ayer who advocates the violent destruction of America may have much more to do with promoting Obama than we know. The organization MoveOn has aggressively intimidated delegates to vote for Obama and to shun Hillary and is likely closely connected with Ayers. Ayers finally got his bomb - Obama.

    Obama also rigged his election to become senator by unfairly disqualifying his opponents. He did this by meticulously finding fault with each of the other candidates signed petitions until each of the contenders had to drop out, Obama was the last one standing, there was no election. This was another finger gesture towards the American public by Obama.

    If this isn't enough, look at Obama's affiliations:
    Wright
    Meeks
    Ayers
    Abongo "Roy" Obama
    Rashid Khalidi
    Robert Malley
    Hamas
    McPeaks
    Rezko
    Auchi
    And the list goes on...

    This may be the time of the Anti-Christ, but do you want to be on the list of people who voted for him?

    Posted by Haven Knoll May 1, 08 12:21 PM
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  1. VOTING FOR HILLARY HERE! We don't need a black racist nationalist in office!

    Posted by law May 1, 08 12:22 PM
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  1. I have a question. It seems to me that most (way more than half) of the folks that know and have worked for the Clinton's in the past support Obama. Why do former Clinton cabinet members, current senators and house representatives not support Hillary (and Bill)?

    I wish the Obama people would take out full page ads in newspapers listing past and current senators, house members, and former Clinton people that were financial and in other ways supporters but now endorse Obama.

    What do some of you friendly people that plan to only vote for Hillary because she is a woman or others that just wouldn't consider voting for a black think? Why do so many people that know the Clinton's well not support Hillary?

    Please only respond if you are friendly and positive, don't really want to hear from unhappy folks and other "small thinking" people.

    Thanks and have a good day!

    Posted by Jumping Jackson Martinez May 1, 08 12:23 PM
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  1. The issue is judgment,and electibility vs. McCain. Obama has said he is above all other politicians and now we find out he is not. He joined Trinity Church when he went into politics, forming his political base through the well connected Rev. Wright . Now that we know Rev. Wright and the mockery he makes of America, Obama's joining Trinity may be viewed as Faust arrangement. How could such an intelligent man with political ambitions have not seen this as a potential mine field?

    If you think Willy Horton and Swiftboat blind-sided and caused the undoing of Democratic candidates, just wait till you see what the Republicans do with this in the fall, even if Rev. Wright does not take center sate once again.

    Posted by Hope May 1, 08 12:23 PM
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  1. Actually, the aphorism is "all hat and no cattle"...as in wearing a hat to look like a rancher but having no real experience with animals.

    As you seem to indicate in your post Lisa T., apparently only Texas represents the "Country" you think Obama should have respect for. In actuality, there are alot of other areas in the whole "United States" - Texas really is not that representative.

    Posted by Kevin T. May 1, 08 12:25 PM
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  1. I think an Independent would win this if the process were not limited to two parties. I do not like the choices now. I will not support a Clinton Dynasty. So... I will vote for McCain instead of "combat Hillary."

    Posted by Too bad May 1, 08 12:25 PM
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  1. To Glenn Wahl:

    Thanks for breaking it down for these non-thinking idiots who allow the MSM to give them their opinions. There's a reason why Obama has: 1) won more states 2) earned more delegates, 3) received more votes, and 4) raised more money than any of the other 2 losers.

    We can either deal with the race issue now, or deal with it later. Eventually, it will be dealt with. America keeps electing these bafoons like Bush and Clinton, who continue to destroy our nation. Then, they wonder why our economy, educational system and health care systems suck.

    Posted by Dean May 1, 08 12:26 PM
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  1. I live north of the border,

    I don't know how anyone could see Hillary Clinton as a viable choice to lead a country like the U.S.A. She seems quite personable on the surface, but seems very disingenuous and misinformed about a lot of issues in the world. Her views on NAFTA are completely laughable to the point of self-embarrassment.
    We had a leader with a personality very much like her, Kim Campbell, she was smart and sure of herself, but also cold and very arrogant, she ended up being a disaster of a prime minister for this country. People quickly saw through her game and we voted her out of office and her party paid the price for the next ten years.

    Posted by Mike May 1, 08 12:27 PM
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  1. Delicious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bring out the long knives and cut each other to ribbons.

    Posted by jc May 1, 08 12:30 PM
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  1. If Clinton or McCain gets elected and we have another war, this time in Iran, the blood is on the hands of the American people- particularly the voters who decided to vote for Mr. "Bomb bomb bomb" Iran or Ms. "Obliterate Iran".

    I wonder how Wright will sleep at night.,

    Posted by epthorn May 1, 08 12:30 PM
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  1. Hillary is the only way. Obma will sink us democrats in one fell swoop.

    Posted by Navin May 1, 08 12:30 PM
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  1. Glenn--
    If you look for racism, you will find it. Whether or not it exists. Don't know much about Hagee, but I don't believe McCain sat in his church for 20 years and then acted surprised over what was said in sermons, (although it wouldn't be the first time someone went to church and didn't listen to the Pastor).

    Racism is a fact of life here and everywhere else, in all communities, in every country. Get over it. People will fear what they don't know and they will believe a lie until they discover it isn't true. It isn't fair, it just is human nature. The way to beat back lies are with the Truth. Racism is just ignorance writ large, but most people don't want to stay ignorant. We want to believe that a person is good and once he is proven his/her value then we accept that person.

    Bigotry isn't limited to race-- look at the blogs and what people write about the "religious right", republicans, gays, foreign visitors from all nations, liberals, and so on. The media plays on divisive fears across the board and each "constituancy" seeks to demonize the others. Usually, the criticism has a kernal of truth embellished by a glut of misrepresentation.

    If we quit subscribing to whatever the misrepresentation of the day is and actually look to the individual, we may find that we aren't as far apart as we once thought. I don't hold much hope that many will take the time and trouble to find out.

    The real truth of the matter is that the President has little power to make our individual lives significantly better. True, he/she can do some good, but overall a President is considered a good one by how little damage he did to the country. We have three branches of government at the Federal level and all have to be working in sync for big changes to occur for good. Any one branch can create mischief and hurt the country, or at can hurt lots of people.

    Beyond the government, though, it takes real citizen leaders to make big changes. I would rather see another Martin Luther King arise than a thousand presidential candidates promising what no one can deliver. Consider whether you could become such a leader and bring real change for the better. I hope you can and will.

    Posted by Steve in DC May 1, 08 12:31 PM
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  1. If those three candidates are the only choice these parties can come up with, then this country is in more trouble than anyone can imagine. God help us! The southern religious groups as usual, are helping to sink the country. Mitt Romney was our last chance. Yea, God help us...

    Posted by R.Mack May 1, 08 12:32 PM
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  1. She sound shrill, she looks crazy and phony. She's mean and nasty. I think she can do it! (no matter what the cost).

    Posted by Brad May 1, 08 12:33 PM
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  1. Prejudiced against strong women, more so than against Blacks? I read comments and wonder if there is not a strong prejudice against Hillary in particular, highly competent, assertive women in general.

    Posted by Christopher Roesel May 1, 08 12:34 PM
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  1. Hillary is trying to define what victory is according to Hillary. Talk about arrogance. The DNC defines victory not Queen Hillary and her sock puppets. Hillary is behind in delegates, national numbers, and fund raising ability. Nor is she able to garner new voters (the young hate her). She only manages to get racist whites to vote for her who will vote for McCain in November, anyway, because they are traditionally stupid; always voting suicidally.

    Posted by Ardie May 1, 08 12:35 PM
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  1. I like turtles. Because no one has told me turtles lie.

    Posted by turtle lover May 1, 08 12:36 PM
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  1. All you dumb white loser's backing Obama, name one black person who runs a country well.
    None.

    It is different rules with whites because whites don't go to churches that condemn america. Black people have it better here than anywhere else so stop using the race crutch. A lot more black immigrate into teh US than blacks immigrating into africa.

    Posted by truth May 1, 08 12:37 PM
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  1. We've seen the real Hillary for years that's why she running behind Obama. She's mean spirited and has nothing but contempt for the average worker.

    Posted by Jim May 1, 08 12:38 PM
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  1. I'm wide awake.

    Barack Obama for President of the UNITED States of America.

    Posted by PulSamsara May 1, 08 12:41 PM
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  1. Go HILLARY! She has the stomach for it. Obama cannot take the heat, and hasn't been put up to it by the press. Those of you who pick apart Hillary based on media reports - just compare the reports on Obama - they beat her up and handle him like he's some sort of fragile precious item that can't be scratched. We need a real person in the White House! Not somebody who's been pandered to, or an old fossil like McCain (who tacitly supports intelligent design). Go Clinton!!

    Posted by The original yawn May 1, 08 12:41 PM
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  1. Truth is that israel wants either Clinton or McCain. BUT israel and special interest groups like AIPAC who buy our congress feeding their greed and power will not get away with it this time. We the people arr not going to let tje political insiders get away with it any more. Obama has the best record of past actions not B.S. lip servixe with lies like Clinton and flip flop McCain 100 % Bush backer.
    Of all that were running in the democratic party only two stand out as true Americans loyal to the constitution and the people. Any one that is willing to dig deep into all will find the two best for America and world peace are OBAMA and RON PAUL...

    Posted by Dan May 1, 08 12:41 PM
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  1. Hillary Clinton is a liar and avery poor one at that.. Unless, as her liar husband inferred, at age 60 she may have some memory loss, how could she have forgotten that there were photographers and press along with her on the Bosnia trip?
    Can anyone trust a word she says after this out-and-out fabrication? And the Clintons count among their friends several very disreputable individuals. As an example,Chelsea Clinton's serious boyfriend is Mark Mejzinsky, son of the now imprisoned former Congressman Ed Mejzinsky. The former Congressman is presently serving a seven year prison term for fraud.
    The Mejzinskys were very close friends of the Clintons for many years and frequent guests at the Whitehouse. Chelsea met him when she was very young but they are now seriously involved. Clinton was very helpful to Mejzinsky who frequently threw around his Clinton connections when it served his purposes.
    And what about the unsavory guests who bought their way into sleeping in the Lincoln Bedroom?
    If Barack Obama should have vetted his pastor,Hillary should have vetted her sex maniac husband whose lies and indiscretions led to impeachment and disgrace to the office. who would put up with a humiliating situation like this if not for opportunistic purposes?
    If there are skeletons in Obama's closet, the Clintons have a warehouse full of them.And, if I am not mistaken, this same Reverend Wright was sent for as a spiritual advisor to Bill Clinton after the Monica Lewinsky fiasco.
    Both Bill Clinton and Reverend Wright are suffering from the same disease--Limelightitis and have lost sight of their primary goal of doing what is best for their candidate ratherthan gaining the stage for themselves.

    Posted by myrna May 1, 08 12:42 PM
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  1. It is just amazing that so many super delegates back Obama. For HOPE and CHANGE? we need to ask what kinds and if Obama is the one who can deliver them. I have been reading those Obama backers comments and not even a single one that can convince me he can bring the hope and change. he said he is a uniter, what do we see now? a divided dem party, a divided while and black. well, it is too risky to put him in the office for our own sake and for our country's sake. i would hope McCain or Hillary can bring us the hope and changes we need.

    Posted by YJ May 1, 08 12:44 PM
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  1. The face of the Obama campaign: women hating thugs who want a hip, black friend.

    Posted by nobama baloney May 1, 08 12:45 PM
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  1. the problem with the Obama campaign is that the whole thing is based on personality and not experience. so, naturally, some thing as minor as his pastor will have big impact because THERE IS NOTHING ELSE VOTERS CAN JUDGE HIM ON....tell us one Obama accomplishment that actually made national (or at least state-wide) impact? sure, he is so smart, made president of harvard law review, blah blah blah...well, he probably should go back to teach and be a third party activist. this way, he will make longer term contribution to American politics.
    In the event that he get elected, he is going to be a one term president that people are eager to forget.

    Posted by Ali May 1, 08 12:47 PM
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  1. Barack Obama was way out of his league from the beginning. He has little experience to become President at this time.

    His handlers have done a very poor job in guiding him.

    He would never have gotten the votes he did if Rev. Wright had appeared sooner on the scene. He flip-flops constantly.

    I feel sorry for him --- he seems like a nice guy but not president material.

    Posted by ron May 1, 08 12:47 PM
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  1. Hillary has lost. Cry baby as you take a few shots of whiskey to help ease the pain. Come back in 8 years after Obama has served two terms and you still will be younger than McCain even though you'll have a lot more wrinkles.

    Posted by Jim May 1, 08 12:49 PM
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  1. Hillary has lost. Cry baby as you take a few shots of whiskey to help ease the pain. Come back in 8 years after Obama has served two terms and you still will be younger than McCain even though you'll have a lot more wrinkles.

    Posted by Jim May 1, 08 12:50 PM
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  1. What does it mean "Hillary should just drop out"??? Can somebody explain to me what that means???? How "DEMOCRATic" is that?

    Why are the supporters of the MessiahBama crying and screaming like kids just because Hillary is exercising her right to continue campaigning and contest elections instead of MAKING SANDWICHES, like some would like her to do instead? And the funny thing is, she is actually winning and presenting a convincing platform to the voters who do vote for her.

    I want someone who doesn't quit to be our President. I am an independent, but I simply can't help respecting Hillary greatly for not rolling over when the going gets rough and instead fights on. That's the true American spirit people.

    Posted by Andrew McDerry May 1, 08 12:53 PM
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  1. Well, I'm switching my vote to Clinton now. I was all behind Obama, but yuck what a W-I-M-P! I cannot believe he let us down by backing out of another debate. I know I don't want someone who is scared of adversity. Any intelligent person knows Clinton was calling a bluff. He should have at least said he would consider another debate or something and not just "I'm not ducking out" . Everyone knows he can't think as well on his feet as GWB doesn't.- but man, it's time to lead!
    I don't much care for Clinton's personality --(is she really a man underneath?) but at this point, I need to look out for myself and my family. That means restoring the damage caused by the republicans and go with someone who doesn't flinch and will probably get the job done regardless. Obama, pleeeez fix this and I'll switch bk

    Posted by heirbrande May 1, 08 12:55 PM
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  1. "Why didn't Obama leave the church when the pastor made those comments?"

    Well...why did Catholics not leave the Catholic church when their priests sexually abused children? That is FAR, FAR WORSE than saying something wacky.

    Posted by Jason May 1, 08 12:55 PM
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  1. To entry #9 ..who says that rules are different for white candidates , than for black candidates,and to talk about the elephant in the room. Well it is different ! Earlier this year when someone shouted ' Hillary, Iron my shirt' , people dismissed it, or just laughed it off. BUT imagine if someone had told Obama ' Hey shine my shoes'
    ,Can you just imagine the uproar we would hear? This race has been different for white candidates and black candidates for a long time, and now finally ( maybe because of SNL, Obama is getting his fair share of abuse. If he is having a hard time against Hillary JUST IMAGINE how the GOP are gonna rip him up.

    Posted by Derek May 1, 08 12:57 PM
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  1. go Hillary!!

    Posted by Jim May 1, 08 12:58 PM
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  1. One is known by the friends they keep. Obama kept the hate-filled racist Wright for 20 years until he was forced to distance himself. This along with his dealings with other shady characters shows where his allegiance lies.

    Posted by Billw May 1, 08 01:01 PM
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  1. Let's see...record increase in food and fuel costs since the House and Senate came under Democrat control. The President is only 1 cog in the wheel. Most decisions are made in the House and Senate.

    Think about it people. There are no "TRUE" conservatives in the race this year. But with the Executive and Legislative branches both controlled by the Dem's would only spell disaster. Think about this also. If Obama or Hillary either one gets the Oval office the Bush tax cuts will not be extended and that means an automatic $2,000.00 tax increase for middle class Americans. Let alone the many Trillions, yes Trillions with a capital "T", of increased spending proposed by both Obama and Hillary.

    Unfortunately, we are forced, once again, to choose the lesser of the evils. So I say vote McCain in November.

    P.S. I can also enlighten you on the evils of Ethanol and the need for domestic drilling if you like. =)

    Posted by No Dems 4 Me May 1, 08 01:03 PM
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  1. I know Obama is the right choice because Rev. Wright is the most destructive thing his enemies can come up with that's why they keep talking and playing it over and over and over and over again too get the people that can't think for themselves to vote for Hillary/McCain while they ignore all the dirt on Hillary and McCain and make you think they are so pure and has your best interest in mind. The media and Hillary know their are a lot of brainless voters out there that will vote for her if they ignore her lies in the past and present. I wonder why we haven't heard about that sniper fire like we've heard about Rev. Wright?

    Posted by Jim May 1, 08 01:07 PM
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  1. As this campaign has progressed, Hillary has demonstrated to a greater and greater degree that she has the grit, stamina, ability to offer solid solutions for very complicated problems, and that she cares a great deal about what happens to those who have been ignored and diminished by the Bush policies.

    Dose she seem tough? Yes! Toughness mixed with insight and a strong sense of where to repair the damage of the Bush years is what we desperately need. She has actually "reached across the aisle" on many occasions to work as a uniter.

    America needs Hillary Clinton as our next president!!

    Posted by Shirley A. May 1, 08 01:08 PM
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  1. Tide is Turning...Go Hillary!

    Posted by awlswll May 1, 08 01:09 PM
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  1. The Wright controversy is not of Hillary's making, or her campaign's. Mr. Obama clearly knew what the Reverend was about, and to "denounce" his words now and act like it's all a big surprise is a see-through ploy. We are recognizing that now, and seeing Barack Obama more realistically.

    But what I think is really moving the polls is that Hillary is working like crazy to get out and be with us, the people, and Americans are finally getting to see who Hillary Clinton really is. Not a cold, calculating, lying monster that Obama and the media want us to think, but a warm, down-to-earth, supersmart woman who understands what's important and who loves this country and it's people.

    I went to see Hillary and I was blown away. She was nothing like you hear, and everything I want in a President. Go see her. Don't let the pundits pick the President! This is too important!

    Posted by EricaLeigh May 1, 08 01:12 PM
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  1. This Rev. Wright matter will come back up when and if Obama is the nominee. It is already hurting democratic candidates around the country. The RNC is running commercials against them using Rev. Wright.

    Posted by Tina D May 1, 08 01:12 PM
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  1. I'm a 61year old,veteran,and I see hillary as our best choice because the economy was the best under the clinton admintration ever than any other presidency.We had a balanced budget witha surplus,lower gas prices,more jobs.Wake up people,she has more experience and she pledges allegiance to our flag,not no muslim god,for their is only one GOD JESUS CHRIST mot ali who is SATAN.

    Posted by tonyphil1 May 1, 08 01:12 PM
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  1. Hillary stood up and applauded Bush's war. Barack opposed it.

    Reverend Wright is no different from Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, or Billy Graham. They're all bigots who are (were) close to politicians.

    Posted by Barack supporter May 1, 08 01:13 PM
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  1. USA will be once again be prosperous and regain its respect in the world with
    Hillary Clinton as the next President.

    Posted by Steve C May 1, 08 01:14 PM
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  1. I would probably have voted for Obama if the media didn't go through such great lengths to shove him down my throat. Secondly, the media's constant and relentless attacks against Hillary Clinton were so blatant and bias, it just made me sick. This is the reason I've finally decided on voting for Hillary. If Obama becomes the Democratic nominee, I'll cast my vote for Ralph Nader. This is my protest vote against media manipulation of the masses.

    Posted by Alan May 1, 08 01:15 PM
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  1. The Democratic party is being devoured by the "far left" which has been consistently losing elections for years. The 2006 election was a fluke. Congress, now under Pelosi, has a 22% approval rating which is a good indication that if Dean and the DNC succeed in making Obama/Wright the nominee, they will not only lose the Presidency, but also the House, Senate and state and local elections. No matter what Obama say, he can't hide Wright in the basement anymore because the Republicans will use his association to proclaim both of their "hate white Americans" mantra. The other shoe to drop on Obama may be the Rezko Chicago corruption trial when someone sings to have their own skin.

    Posted by Marta May 1, 08 01:21 PM
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  1. John:
    1) "Obama is a polarizing and divisive figure."

    Unlike Hillary who is a uniter in being favorable by both the left & the right. Or McCain who feigns moderation, but to get the nomination flips to ultra-conservative loyal Bushie, even giving up his core principles like ending torture.


    2) "He promised us change, and has instead lead us into a quagmire."

    I think you're speaking of Bush, as well as those who voted for going to war in Iraq, where we've lost 4000+ of our best and which has cost $16 ,500 to the average family, all to make the region more unstable according to even Pentagon reports.


    3) "This latte-sipping America-hating holier-than-thou candidate..."

    How is he America-hating? It sounds like you're the one that is being divisive and holier-than-thou, hating on city-folk. How about listening to HIS words of unity. I recommend the Charlie Rose interview from 2004 to put his 'bitter' comment in context.


    4) "He should drop out now and think about what a loser he really is."

    He's the front-runner to be POTUS - I hope you'll judge him by HIS character and not merely find him guilty-by-association.

    Posted by Nick May 1, 08 01:21 PM
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  1. Lets move away from the talk of 'change' and 'moving forward' and so on. Hillary is not stupid, she knows that she cannot win the Democratic nomination of 2008, she is simply too far behind, just as a man called Ronald Regan knew that he could not beat Ford for the the 1976 Republican nomination. He fought hard enough to divide his party, enough to prevent it from beating Carter. Many thought that Ronald would be far too old to ever run for President again.
    John McCain will become president in 2008. Hillary will run in 2012. That is what she is offering those of us who don't just want her to win because she is woman (think elderly white females)


    Posted by White Irish American Catholic (Democrat) May 1, 08 01:24 PM
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  1. In my opinion, it will be better to have a Clinton/Obama ticket.I feel that the Democratic committee should chose Hillaryt for Pres. and Obama as Vice-Pres. This is the best choice..Or someone should drop out now, before DAMAGES could escalate and allow one or the other to be the nominee. If they keep on fighting. the democrat will not win in November, as too much damages have already been done.

    Posted by Rajendra Ram May 1, 08 01:26 PM
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  1. Steve,
    It is so easy now to talk about MLK this way...I challenge you to go research into the hell MLK was made to live through by the societal leaders and government agencies, especially the FBI. I bet you would have explained all that away differently if you were around when MLK was alive and having his own struggles. Yes, racism is everywhere.. and it is found in EVERY country, I agree. BUT THAT STILL DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT OR CONDONED. Whether in Rwanda , Sudan, Russia or in Boston.! barack was talking about how to make something better, a more perfect union. That was MLK's crusade.It was not popular then, it is not popular now and people like you will like to rationalise evil one way or the other. We will not make any progress, we will be stuck if we were all to think and accept these things the way you have presented it. We really have a certain chance this coming November to change the destructive course that this country is taking. I challenge you to research into famous "most powerful,wealthiest" nations and empires of the past. The British empire is the most recent. About 150 years ago, they owned 1/4 of the world in land riches and colonies. They then started chasing after "curing a skin rash" ...while their empire was suffering from " leprosy"...if you get my point. They quit doing the important and neccessary and went after fighting Dutch farmers in South Africa.....in the Boer wars....from then on till today they have been going downhill. The poit is , we do not have to end up like them. We need to face our challenges ...... for example, we cannot sustain what we are doing in Iraq for another 2-3 years...it will bankrupt us. No one is talikng about that because we are all still living in this fantasy idiocy that we own the world. Guess what, the world is about to own us. With China being the largest repository of our treasury bills and the rest in the hands of all kinds of people all over the world we are close to being owned completely. .....and we sit here talking all thes trash about ..."bitter comments".., "Jeremiah Wright', black/blue/white collar nonsense.

    Posted by david May 1, 08 01:32 PM
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  1. RE-oosed by YJ
    McCain and Hillary does not believe in Hope and Change, as they do not understand what that means to PEOPLE. They are concerned about invoking the OLD POLITICS that deal with LOBBYISTS, and obsession for the old strategies tand policies that are repeated over and over.Hillary has POKED many fun and has ridicule HOPE and Change. So I guess you are as ignorant like them. and the majority of you here are all racists living in modern times. You are typical of your old folks, that continues to berate black peopl;e.

    Posted by rajah kahn May 1, 08 01:36 PM
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  1. Go McCain!!

    Posted by Ben May 1, 08 01:36 PM
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  1. Many Americans seem to be sleeping in the way they did when people of this great country voted a mediocre and egomaniac like Bush to power. The Democratic voters need to ask themselves why has somebody like Joe Andrews has abandoned Clinton to support Obama. Clinton appointed Andrews as the youngest Chairman of the NDC. Today Andrews says that Obama's wisdom and courage to speak the truth to the American people has been vindicated by his handling of Wright's crisis and his stand on the gas tax policy. In 2004 the rest of the world saw clearly what American voters failed to see. Namely, Bush would be a political disaster. Today Americans seem to be travelling on the same road again. Who is a liar, Obama or Clinton? The rest of the world says Clinton while some Americans, blinded by ideology, say Obama. The rest of the world will vote for Obama. Politically Americans seem to be on the level with Italians. Very sad!

    Posted by Dr. Jesse Kally-Williams May 1, 08 01:38 PM
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  1. there seems to be many who are afraid of change, and change is exactly what this country needs. We don't need another presedential dynasty ruining our country. Politicians have always been about power and money and i really don't think many of us here can relate on those terms, however, change in the status quo is a good start. Whatever the outcome, just get out there and VOTE. God Bless America

    Posted by Aston May 1, 08 01:39 PM
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  1. Do NOT worry!! ~ Hillary Clinton, like over 70% of Americans is neither Left, nor Right, but CENTERIST, and, she WILL unite the Democratic Party, and go on to become the first female President of the UNited States!!! ~ It's about time too, because, we really need a woman, in the White House, to clean up the MESS, that Bush and the Republicans have left for her!!!! ~ Remember, too, to vote a STRAIGHT Democratic ticket, in November, 'cause President Clinton is going to need ALL the help she can get, from Congress, as well!!!! ~ History will show, that the Clintons were the GREATEST American Presidents, of all time!!!!

    Posted by Arbuckle Doc May 1, 08 01:43 PM
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  1. Stupid as is Stupid does. Vote the same people into office, year after year. Complain that we have the same old problems and nothing ever gets done. Vote the same old people into office again. No wonder American Idol is so popular. Stupid is as Stupid does.

    Posted by N. O'Reilly May 1, 08 01:43 PM
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  1. Obama, you are untrusthworthy and you dont have a strong power to lead our country yet I cannot trust you anymore after you've been with your anti-church for over twenty years. Being a president is not backing down on anything. You need to be strong and consistent. You should have debated with clinton and not duck down. You seem like a whimp. You lost my vote after your and my family.

    Posted by emily May 1, 08 01:46 PM
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  1. Lay off of the man

    Posted by Rufus L. Brooks May 1, 08 01:48 PM
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  1. Obama, you lost my vote and my family vote. I believe that deep down in your heart, you are anti-american too. You've associated with alot of terriost friends and you dont admit. You are not true to yourself. I have large family and I will make sure that I spread the word and you wouldn't be elected president

    Posted by jojo May 1, 08 01:51 PM
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  1. The tide is turning in Senator Clinton's direction. Better late than never. She's clearly the best shot the Dems have against John McCain. She's clearly the best candidate, always has been.

    Posted by Peggy Sue May 1, 08 01:52 PM
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  1. I think people have to be realistic. Judge people by what they say. Blackmail engineered by the Clinton political machine won't win the white house for democrats. We are tired of the polarising politics of Bush - Clinton, Clinton - Bush, Clinton - Chelsea this dynasty thing is a shame for America. Go Clinton GO.
    VOTE FOR CHANGE!!! Clinton its too late. OBAMA is the winner.

    Posted by Damian May 1, 08 01:54 PM
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  1. Obama cannot explain away his problem with his pastor of 20 years. Even he is sincere in every words, it just shows that he does not have the ability to be a good executive. An executive or any good leader requires good judgment and a good sense of people's character. Obama is either lying all along or a just complete moron in this respect.

    Posted by Jim May 1, 08 01:55 PM
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  1. Go Obama!!
    I hate to listen to anything that comes out of Hillary or Bill Clintons mouths, they have lied to this country for years and now they expect the American people to
    to vote for her. she discused me .I hate the way she uses people and her out -burst to the people who work for her .you can't tell me that she does'nt approve of everything that is being said from her camp.The only reson she stuck with that skirt chasing husband of hers is that she always wanted to be president and she couldn't be elected if divorced. A message to the American people-Hillary looks out for Hiilary and thats all.

    Posted by rose May 1, 08 01:56 PM
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  1. I can't believe that after everything Hillary has said and done there are people who think that she's a better choice than Obama. I can understand people preferring John McCain...they're called Republicans. But in the choice between Hillary and Barack, after everything we know about both of them? You must be incredibly ignorant or racist to support her. She's as ethically challenged as your average Republican, and she only started sounding half-way progressive when she realized that the primary competition wasn't turning out to be a coronation. If somehow we were unfortunate enough to get her, you can expect her to show everyone what a "different kind of Democrat" she is by waging war and basically breaking every promise she's made in the last 4 months.

    Posted by Syd May 1, 08 01:59 PM
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  1. My mom is 61 and voted for Obama in the Iowa Caucus on the basis that she thought Hillary was too old. My mother said,"After raising a family, going through menopause and other life altering/aging issues - I'm just not the same person as I was when I had you (I'm now 26)." Basically, she told me that ‘life’ as she is older is more pleasant now, but things move slower now because her mind/body isn't the same. She fatigues faster; she doesn't want to have that stress in her life and she wouldn't wish that on any woman her age. Hillary Clinton is 60.

    This issue of age is even more severe with John McCain. Our last 2 presidents have held office for 2 terms that would make McCain 79 years old if he did the same. Now if I were to relate McCain to my Grandpa Hahle, on my dads’ side, well, he passed away awhile before the age of 71, before I was alive. If I were to relate McCain to my Grandpa Stevens, on my mothers’ side, well he passed away at age 75. The issue being massive organ malfunction due to old age, I believe it started as cancer. I had a solid relationship with him. The years before I remember visiting him and how he had his favorite chair that he rarely left it and he always had a dog by his side named Bamby. He was a farmer and raised 1 son & 6 daughters. His mind was sharp. I knew this because he loved game shows, specifically the Price is Right, and gambling @ the horse track (he had the money & grandma knew how much he enjoyed it).

    Well the point of all of this is – I just can’t imagine my Grandpa Stevens at McCain’s age, give or take a few years, would have the stamina or strength to run the United States, especially with all the major issues we face today. Sure maybe he could maintain it on a managieral level – like he did his farms that he once built from scratch, but there is no way that he would have the ambition to take on and reform the current issues our country faces. I think we agree that our country has plenty of issues. I know McCain has been in the military and would emphasize national security, but I don’t feel very secure with his age or his ability to mold our country for tomorrow.
    If everyone makes similar comparisons like mine maybe they will come up with different opinions, who knows. I make many of decisions based on my life experiences. Its just the way I am.
    I believe, our country, now, has more younger leaders than previous generations. We have CEO’s that are 25. We have officers in the military that are in their late 20’s, who are protecting our country. We have teens that are turned into pop godesses that also face insurmountable scrutiny by the media. I think it is noticed by more than me that times have changed and continues to change more rapidly. So lets not become a victim of change.
    I think OBAMA wants to unite us. I think he wants us to adapt to the times and has the ambition to prepare us for tomorrow. I think he cares about tomorrow because he will be around to see it. I don’t think we can wait another 4-8 years to tackle these problems (there will be different ones by then). I think he understands the issues the younger generations face more than we do and more than our parents do. He’s a smart dude, and he’s cool and definitely a guy that I could sit down and have a beer with. I think we should give him a chance and have Michael Jordan run as VP, but Jordan might quit to play basketball again :).

    Posted by Luke H May 1, 08 02:02 PM
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  1. one more time i wish to explain that obama did not have a vote about the war since he wasnt in the us senate at the time, of the war. he was in the il senate.. he can say what ever he wants to but he wasn;t allowed to vote and didn't have the knowledge the us senators had. the status quo is backing obama if any one is so they can manipulate him, because he is naive i don't want him or his friends in my white house,because she isn;t proud of it either i'm sure, unless her husband is president... the minute he would be elected he and she would kiss ass wright.
    if i ever saw a politician it is him...and i would like to tell you i couldn;t see why any one would vote for bush not once but twice and i feel the same about him.. be careful what you wish for, because we can;t stand all you know it all's to make another mistake.

    Posted by gail May 1, 08 02:11 PM
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  1. "To me, there is no other logical reason for the two sets of rules, the unfairness of coverage, the application of standards."

    If we don't like him, if we don't support him, if we think he's just another politician then there must be two sets of rules. Well, that jibes with Micheles thesis at Princeton at least. She'll never get the chance..........oh wait. She DID. And if it doesn't work out someone else is to blame? And lets try threats of demonstrations in the streets if he doesn't get the nomination. "Iron My Shirt!" was funny and dismissed is right! Try shouting "Shine My Shoes!" is right! Wait a minute..........I guess there ARE two sets of standards after all!

    Posted by vista May 1, 08 02:17 PM
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  1. John said "This latte-sipping America-hating holier-than-thou candidate will never be elected President. He should drop out now and think about what a loser he really is."

    What is it about lattes that enrage conservatives so much? It's just coffee and milk. Is it the steam in the milk that proves a hatred for America?

    Just wondering.

    Posted by John (not the one from the original post) May 1, 08 02:18 PM
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  1. Do people not research (read the Los Angeles Times article on 4/29 "Top of the Ticket ") before they make a judgment????? I felt lthat the Clinton's had something to do with Wright's sounding off earlier this week. I thought, $$$$$$$, what was his incentive to do this to Barack. THEN, I read that the person who invited him to speak at the NATIONAL PRESS CLUB was none other than the Rev. Dr. Barbara Reynolds who is a longtime booster and obsessive fan of the Clintons. She is arranged the event, invited Wright to speak and sat next to him at the head table. ARE ALL OF YOU PEOPLE FOOLS? I thought Bill Clinton was a great president, but IT IS DIFFERENT NOW...he's different, she's everything we thought she would be, but I just never believed the lengths they would go to.

    Posted by Joy May 1, 08 02:21 PM
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  1. Please explain what Obama has that qualifies him for president, other than his cute face, fake preacher speaking style, and half-black skin???
    You who say voters for Clinton are racist, what about the 92% of blacks who are voting for Obama?
    Is that not the ultimate it racism??

    Posted by john May 1, 08 02:29 PM
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  1. I don't think "realist" voted for Obama in the first place. At least that's what I get from your "far-left nut cases" and lapel pin unpatriotism comments. If you really did focus on things like lapel pins and other insignificant issues, you wouldn't have voted for Obama in the first place who's stressed the real issues facing this country all along.

    Nice trick, though, trying to convince the superdelegates you're a former Obama supporter who's switched camps and many others will do the same. Right out of Karl Rove's playbook ...

    Posted by Vivek May 1, 08 02:30 PM
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  1. What has Clinton told us? That only she can win the "big states"? That Wright has irreparably harmed Obama? That she's "more electable"? That independents like her more?

    Let's see what New Jersey has to say about it, all of it post-Wright, of course:

    Monmouth U. 4/24-28. Registered voters. MoE 3.7% (No trend lines)

    McCain (R) 32
    Obama (D) 56

    McCain (R) 38
    Clinton (D) 52

    They both win handily, but Obama's extra 10 points will come in handy in a state that will feature multiple hot House races.

    But more interestingly than that is the following fact, given that this is a state that Clinton won by 10 points 54-44:

    Who would you personally like to see the Democratic party nominate as its presidential
    candidate —Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama? (Asked only of Democrats)

    Obama 45
    Clinton 38

    Again, after Wright, after "bitter", after all the nonsense in this campaign, the very people who gave Clinton a solid victory on February 5 now prefer Obama.

    Meanwhile, in the general election matchups:

    Total Dem Ind Rep
    McCain (R) 32 10 33 79
    Obama (D) 56 84 50 13

    McCain (R) 38 13 41 86
    Clinton (D) 52 81 42 11

    Obama runs stronger across the board. In a state, remember, that Clinton claims only she can win because it's "big" and she won the primary, and all of this after Obama was rendered "unelectable" by Wright and "bitter".

    Posted by LM May 1, 08 02:33 PM
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  1. I care too, God bless THE WORLD! Go Obama!!

    Posted by Rob Beagel May 1, 08 02:35 PM
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  1. "I want someone who doesn't quit to be our President. I am an independent, but I simply can't help respecting Hillary greatly for not rolling over when the going gets rough and instead fights on. That's the true American spirit people."

    -- Boy, I'm sure the GOP is wishing Romney (who was not far behind in the delegate race) would have stayed in to "fight".

    If it were anyone other than a Clinton, more of the party faithful would be up in arms that this contest is not finished.

    I'm surprised so few here have addressed one of the key themes of this article - elecatibility. Can Hillary Clinton seriously think she can win the race in the 11th hour on an electability argument? For anyone who caught the Colbert Report a few nights ago, need we any more of a reminder of the electability than the great idea to put up John Kerry? Even when given other choices of an attractive, southern Senator or a Four Star General? Let's go get 'em again on that train of thought Demorats!

    Last comment - the way that so many reduce down the "job" of the Presidency to concrete terms they can understand in the mold of their daily experience is a huge part of the problem. "We need a fighter"..."He doesn't have the experience"...I think voters need to stop thinking of our president as an accounts payable supervisor and more like an actual head of state.

    Posted by Ryan May 1, 08 02:39 PM
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  1. When are Democrats in general, and the DNC in particular, going to wake up and realize that Obama just is not what he appeared a month ago. It becomes more obvious daily that he is alienating voters to the point where, as polls now show, that he would have a very tough time beating McCain, and the very thought of a McCain presidency should strike mortal fear in the hearts of ALL Democrats as well as every rational American. He simply cannot deliver the states he needs to.I shutter to think how he would do in Florida! Speaking of Florida- wake up, DNC- Give Hillary the delegates and popular vote she deserves from her victory there !Four years ago, I was a Howard Dean supporter, but now I think he really is Goofy.

    Posted by Pete Bandel May 1, 08 02:39 PM
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  1. Hillary reminds me of my stepmother, and that isn't a good thing.

    Posted by Billary Bob May 1, 08 02:52 PM
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  1. Hey LM --- jealous much? You sure sound like it.

    Goooo Hillary!!!!

    Posted by K May 1, 08 02:59 PM
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  1. hey marc peiper, didn't you pay attention???

    hillary does not want to not collect the federal gas tax, but just make the big oil companies pay for it temporarily out of their obscene profits.

    Posted by rosco_rhemer May 1, 08 03:19 PM
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  1. Doesn't anyone remember that it was Rev. Wright that Bill Clinton summoned for counsel when he was under fire in the White House? Or that John McCain's association with radical preacher Hagee is part of his record?

    Obama has responded to a loose cannon of a former minister who is clearly out to destroy his campaign; it's hard to think of a harder matter to deal with, but he has dealt with it. He can handle crisis. He has NOT associated with Farrakhan--it's Wright himself who admires that radical speaker.

    When people are eager to have their own views validated, they seem to filter out information that may contradict with those views.

    Posted by Barb Cleary May 1, 08 03:25 PM
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  1. I say this to you all; together we stand and divided we fall! If McCain gets into the White House we are destine to feel it! I feel what most fell to understand is if you McCain or Hillary gets into the White House We are going to feel it. Hillary will more the likely get out of the trouble she's due to face in November of this year. Ask Peter Paul about that. What do you Clinton supporter have to say about her involvement in a lawsuit? Half of you are afraid of the unknown and for that very reason we will all lose! Fear has been embedded in our very core! When you have young and old, women and children resigning to live only amoung themselves out of fear, it's time to stop and take a look at a country that we claim to be proud of. You have women turning their children over to men that may or may not be their father, brother, son! (That thought along shake me to my core) Why, have you asked yourselves that? We will all fall by the waste side because if you or your mates collectively are not making a decent amount to live on your subject to end up homeless! It's people out here right now that's working and homeless! Do you really think all the people that lost their homes actually had somewhere else to go? People don't be so closed mind. I know people who were living in nice homes that's living in motels now. If you are not in the old money club you will feel the crunch! If you turn this country over to Hillary, who I admit is a fighter, who I admit knows what to say, to those she feel she needs to say it too! I look for track records, and her track record isn't relaxing to me! Hillary had trouble closing a deal when she first introduced her health plan when Bill was President- Hum why was that? I take it that it was the money part of it! Hillary name was involved in White Water, that involved money too, Hillary name came up in a variety of things dealing with money- I wonder why? I wonder why Hillary have not paid her bills from this campaign, a lot of those people are small business owner like some of you. Some of those people are losing their business because they went out on a limb; ask your self why, because they were so sure they were going to get paid! This is exactly why Hillary is in the position she's in today! Lawsuit pending due to lack of paying a debt! google it if you must Peter Paul v Clintons you're see what I mean, then google anything else you need! be careful to weed through the truth! Last Question! Why, if Hillary is for the blue collar workers, why haven't she paid the people she owe that handled her advertisement, put those for ever changing slogans together, why haven't she PAID HER BILLS! THE PERSON SHE OWE MY NOT BE CONSIDED A BLUE COLLAR WORKER BUT THEY JUST MAY BE A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER!

    Posted by Alistens May 1, 08 03:25 PM
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  1. Kuilor2k - nice list. Too bad not a single thing on it is true.

    Getting your info from FoxNews and right-wing tinfoil hat websites is never a good idea. They are LIARS you see....

    Shocking I know...

    People, do not rely on the news media to give you your opinion. If you want to know the truth, you will have to dig for it yourself. I do and I am still amazed at the level of distortion and outright falsehood progagated by the news media and presented to the public as fact. We have a far more insidious problem in this country than unethical politicians like Hillary. That's an American media that has decided to make the news rather than report it. Because they see us as lazy,. simpleminded creatures, they feel free to create whatever story sells to their target demographic and if that requires distorting or spinning the facts, or outright lying, then they will do so without fear because they know that the vast majority of people will simply take their word for it, especially if the lies feed into their prejudicees and stereotypes.

    Barack Obama's only real mistake was believing that people are better than they really are; its a common flaw among decent people who want to truly serve others. Those (the majority) who simply want to rule for the sake of power and wealth are not troubled by lies nor does it bother them to destroy a decent person if they stand between them and power. If Hillary thought she could get away with it, Obama's life wouldn't be worth a nickel; and I'm only half kidding about that...

    This is a chance for the American people to change the rules for a while. A vote for Obama would send the message that we as a people are no longer willing to tolerate mudslinging and meaningless distractions as a subsititute for reasoned debate on the issues. it doesn't matter what someone else believes or stands for; only what the candidates themselves stand for. I'm not choosing between Wright, Hagee, or Bill C.; they are not the ones running for office. I want to know from the candidates themselves why they think they deserve my vote.

    I don't care who YOU vote for, only that you think for yourself and make up your own mind instead of allowing the likes of Bill O'Reilly, Larry King and Rush Limbaugh make it up for you. Unless the subject is phone sex, philandering, or abusng prescription drugs, in which case go with the experts.

    I think we as a people need to get off our collective moral high horses, put aside our bigotry for once and make this decision like it really matters.

    Because it does...

    Posted by someoldguy May 1, 08 04:01 PM
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  1. Pete Bandel said "When are Democrats in general, and the DNC in particular, going to wake up and realize that Obama just is not what he appeared a month ago. "

    Believe it or not, Pete, some of us think he's BETTER than what he appeared to be a month ago. Any President will have to withstand major heat. The way Obama has chosen to respond to Clinton's kitchen sink, and Rev. Wrights grab at the spotlight, makes me want this guy representing me and America in the White House.

    Posted by John from CA May 1, 08 04:24 PM
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  1. Obama chickened out on debating. He hung out with a hate-filled racist for 20 years, He wouldn't stand up to Wright until forced to. He is qualified for dog-catcher, at least small dogs.

    Posted by Billw May 1, 08 04:26 PM
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  1. The neocons are praying Hillary is the candidate. She is the only chance they have of staying in power. Why do you think Rush is winding up all his whacks to vote for her? Why do you think even Fox News has taken a shine to her? How did they ever get so lucky? Don't you wonder why no one has brought up the big pile of turds they have on the Clintons???

    If you don't want McSame as President, vote Obama and end the drama.

    Posted by me May 1, 08 04:38 PM
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  1. Keep in mind. The GOP is only attacking Obama right now. Even KARL ROVE wrote an article with skewed statistics trying to bolster Clinton's momentum. We all know what his agenda is.

    I fear that Clinton has already swift boated herself: Sniper fire liar vs. veteran/ POW/ war hero.

    How will Clinton's chances look if the GOP stops working FOR her?

    Posted by jesse May 1, 08 04:39 PM
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  1. Someoldguy, I salute you, your words, and the manner inwhich you presented them. I thank you for saying what should be said. My only wish is that people learn from it. Your words in my opinion are filled with wisdom of time. If you're not someoldguy, you used our five sense as GOD intended. I feel he gave us two ears to listen and one mouth to speak for a reason. Thanks
    Alistens

    Posted by Alistens May 1, 08 04:45 PM
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  1. Hillary is awesome. She's like the duracell bunny....she just keeps on going...and going...GO HILLARY GO!!!!

    psst: some of these people are going on rants like you know who......

    Posted by kt May 1, 08 05:03 PM
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  1. Do we really need Hillary? You betcha!! The "good old boys" club is afraid of Hillary. They have been running our country and see where we are now. I believe Hillary has the brains, experience and strength to move our country ahead. We know that being President of the United States is the hardest job in the WORLD. My vote is for Hillary. Barack, step aside and let a woman do the job. You'll get your turn at bat.

    Posted by Martha Knisley May 1, 08 05:23 PM
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  1. Obama is not who he portrayed himself to be. If he cannot keep a 20 year relationship with his pastor together why should we believe he can bring America together?

    Hillary is the stronger candidate. GO HILLARY!

    Posted by Miche May 1, 08 05:24 PM
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  1. No, McCain didn't listen to Hagee for 20 years. As a matter of fact he only recently changed his religious affiliation, something I've never even heard of anyone else doing. He appears to be doing everything to follow the conservative script that has been laid out for him. What an honest guy. Of course, he can drop the facade once elected.

    Posted by Javalation May 1, 08 05:29 PM
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  1. Billw you are so mis-informed and for the life of me I don't understand why. Obama has debated Hillary over twenty times; unless their stance on the issues has changed, then there's no need for a debate. Obama is a gentleman and a scholar that knows when to say enough is enough.
    Someoldguy; I salute your words, Thank you!
    Alistens

    Posted by Alistens May 1, 08 05:34 PM
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  1. I will vote for Hillary Clinton as I know almost everything I need to know about her, I know the good and the bad, and I still feel that she is much more ready to be president than Barack Obama. I hardly know anything about Barack Obama, and the things coming out about him are all negative. He claims that his pastor is not anti-American. He has never heard his anti-American sermons these last 20 years that he has been very, very closly associated with him? That's a blatant lie! His anti-American sermons throughout the years are very well publicized. Start reading the newspapers and watch J. Wright in the intenet... But I guess you are caught redhanded in your own lies and will do anything to redeem yourselfeven how tweisted your rationalization is. The means always justify the end, Barack Obama? Huh!

    Posted by Augustman May 1, 08 05:39 PM
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  1. kt and Martha Knisley; I have to admit kt, Hillary is exactly like the duracell bunny all over the place. Her campaign has no consistency, she will not commit to one slogan and build from it. This is not the time to band because of female solidarity. Our country is in grave danger and we need someone that can handle money, (economics) has organizational skills, and does not seek the office for nothing more than a power trip! kt you said it I didn't and yes Hillary is like the duracell bunny no definite order! If people are ranting Martha as you so call it, I would take heed to the calling!
    Someoldguy; I understand and will now use the sense GOD gave me, read and try very hard not to reply!
    Alistens

    Posted by Alistens May 1, 08 05:59 PM
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  1. There is no way to say this that does not come across offensive, but I believe we need to consider something. Over 80 % of african americans are voting for Obama. United around an ethnic bond. That is not necessarily a bad thing, but if you watch late night tv and listen to their rational..... Hmmm is he really up in the polls? Do you want to buy into this propoganda. Listen both candidate have warts, but when we look at the votors that are not concerned about issues, and allow that momentum sweep us blindly toward a man that listen to extreme opinions of Wright... Do you not see a trend? People, wake up, I wanted to like Obama, but Change without a real plan... and eternal speeches of how he will bring washington together...get real, it aint going to happen. You may not like Hillary, but she gets things done... Talk to some voters... ask them why? look for those that represent a candidate strongholds, and then ask yourself... with supporters like these, is this the vote I should cast. Just a rambling thought but I'm worried when i hear a young african girl say she thinks Obama is better because he is black... and when I tell her that Hillary is a woman she responds "but she is white" It frustrates me and I am concerned... I think I like a McCain/Rice ticket and that is tough for me but I think Obama would be getting elected for the wrong reasons. If he was looked at more closely at the begining of this primary race, like the others, he would have never made it this far.

    Posted by Inthemail May 1, 08 06:11 PM
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  1. She's just holding on so she can be VP for Gore under the "Denver Plan". Google it. You'll find out what's really going on, and why these two candidates don't seem too concerned about destroying each other, because they know Gore is coming in to reunify the party after the primary and before the convention. They just want to be the last one standing when he does so they can be on the ticket (as the losers career is probably over ala Mondale, Dukakis, and Kerry).

    Posted by Jason Stephenson May 1, 08 06:14 PM
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  1. It's time we put a woman in the White House. The best man for the job is a woman! She is smart, knows what she is talking about and I beat she can even spell...! LOL I am tried of having a President in the White House I didn't vote for. I didn't vote for his father and I didn't vote for the son. It is time for a real change, Vote for a Woman..I'm voting for HILLARY, and you should too!

    Posted by M-A May 1, 08 06:49 PM
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  1. IT IS SO SCARY TO ME THAT SO MANY PEOPLE, CAN CALL SOMEONE ANTI-
    AMERICAN. WHEN SO MUCH HAS BEEN SWEEPED UNDER THE RUG FOR SO MANY YEARS. IGNORANCE IS ANTI-AMERICAN. THE ABILITY TO THINK THAT ONLY WHITE PEOPLE ARE TRUE TO AMERICA. IS ANTI-AMERICAN. I WOULD HOPE THAT PEOPLE WOULD STOP SMEARING AND NAME CALLING AND LETS GET SOMETHING DONE IN AMERICA. A CHEESE SANDWICH COST ABOUT $4.OO. THAT IS ANTI-AMERICA. LETS GO DEMOCRATES TO THE WHITE HOUSE AND TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY. NO MORE REPUBLICIANS...

    Posted by PHYLLIS ASHBY May 1, 08 07:23 PM
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  1. GO BACK TO SLEEP AND VOTE OBAMA >>> from MCCAINOBOT

    Posted by John B May 1, 08 08:55 PM
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  1. Obama thinks Oregon is part of the great lakes. Is this the kind of president you want to represent our country. I think not.

    Posted by mary May 1, 08 08:57 PM
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  1. Obama's hot air balloon is deflating. Not surprising consdering how irrational his most ardent supporters can be. Have you noticed the over-the-top vitriol? I'm sorry, but it wears very thin over time. How can you not admire Hillary's chutzpah? I honestly believe she will work even harder and fight for us every day as president. Obama could learn a lot from her as VP. I like him very much.

    Posted by J.E. Trout May 1, 08 09:08 PM
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  1. To Inthemail #180, and all the other cynics

    It's nice to see how many people believe that hope and unifying the country are fantasies. Sorry, but you are the real unpatriotic people. If you can't believe in your country than our system really has sucked it out of you. That is a real shame. Think about it, America was founded on core principles that we should be proud of and we should work together to live through those principles. Instead, we have politicians who fight and accomplish nothing. They only look out for the wealthy few instead of the many. They promise us the world on false hopes.

    Barack Obama inspires a generation who truly believe in a a good America. If you are too cynical and negative to desire that kind of politics in America and a President who wants to bring us together instead of divide us apart, then you deserve more of the same in Mrs. Clinton or Mr. McCain.

    Posted by LM May 2, 08 09:31 AM
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  1. I was watching interviews with the makers of "The Shield" last night. In the 5th season of the show, they introduced a character called Lt. Kavanaugh, who they envisioned as a "by the rules, doing everything right" kind of guy. In other words, a hero.

    They were quite surprised to find out that Kavanaugh became the most hated character on the show. He was supposed to be the "good guy," yet viewers saw him as the opposite - a bad, even evli guy - and rooted for the corrupt cop he was going after.

    I observed to my husband that it was obvious why viewers thought Kavanaugh was the bad guy - he was portrayed as a sanctimonious, preachy fanatic so convinced of his own sense of always being right and perfect, and so driven by his "mission" to win at all costs that he put ordinary mortals off.

    Sort of like Obama.

    Self-righteousness and arrogance are a big turnoff for us ordinary mortals; most of us know full well that we are, each of us, fallible human beings. We accept that we can be wrong about things, and are skeptical of those who insist they are always right. We also know that it is the arrogant and sanctimonious individuals who suffer most when they fall, as they inevitably will; there's nothing like an aura of arrogance to spur on the schadenfreude of ordinary mortals. Those of us who are self-aware are very wary of "messiahs," self-proclaimed or otherwise - for they are also only flawed, fallible human beings like us. They will inevitably screw up, and be eaten alive by the people they have looked down upon.

    Obama has crossed the line into believing himself to be better than the people whose votes he is courting. Sorry, he's not.

    Posted by slavicdiva May 2, 08 12:26 PM
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  1. I can't believe that the citizens of the United States would put another liar in the White House!!!! Hillary lied to you and so did her husband. What makes you think she is not going to do this in the White House.

    I'm really nervous about having Bill clinton in the white house without anything to do. Those poor interns.

    Posted by Lisa May 2, 08 03:47 PM
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  1. WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THE CLINTONS!!! WAKE UP EVERYONE VOTE FOR CHANGE!!! OBAMA '08

    Posted by hillbill May 3, 08 04:58 PM
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  1. You know, on the one hand its great that so many people are energized and excited about this election, but this is the umpteenth bulletin board featuring grown adults acting like children, batting each other in meaningless ways over non-issues and shallow, nasty, oftentimes hysterical allegations.

    If "we" are really going to win this election in November, we really need to get our own house in order and get a hell of alot smarter and more convincing in how we do our business online.

    That said, I could not agree more with the poster who said that Obama's recent grace under fire has made him look better than he did before. If this man is still doing so well while under-fire from all sides 24 hrs a day, damn I want him to lead us.

    Posted by almostOver May 3, 08 11:15 PM
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  1. Lisa, unfortunately all politicans lie; so I would get over that illusion. I'd be asking that when they "misspoke" (or lied), did they fess up or try to cover up? So far Hillary has been more honest.... Obama has done a 180 on many issues but he only reworks his answer by 30 degrees at a time--in other words, he's had to be pressed about 6 times per issue so see he's completely reversed his answer. Look no further than Rezko, Auchi, Ayers, and/or Wright; then add the Canadian NAFTA gaff; voting 3 times for a Gas Tax Holiday and now calling Hillary's proposal a "gimmick" and "phony".... Who's the real phony one here?

    Also, sorry to report this but Obama has run all his previous campaigns on the backs of PACs and Federal Lobbiest, so when he put those ads on here in PA, we knew he was definitely not genuine. I give him credit for raising money on the internet but the numbers don't add up--meaning $100/person isn't going to get you close the the amount donated which implies that there are huge donors in the wings that you're not hearing about. Come November Obama supporters may just see how divisive Obama really when many democrats cast our votes for McCain.

    Posted by PA Voter May 4, 08 01:52 AM
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  1. I am not a church-going person. Only attend church for weddings or baptisms. Some of my family members do. My church rotates pastors so no pastor stays in the church for more than 4 years.
    Yet, I am fully aware of the pastor's views, his type of sermons and any controversial comments that he makes in the church - in fact all the juicy news about him - even knows about his family etc etc. I have personally met the pastor only on a couple of occassions.
    I am very surprised that Obama didn't know about his views (which was repated so many times in his church. His views are his belief and they are not a one-time ranting out of some anger. He holds these views even now. And Obama was a lot closer to his pastor.
    So I have to draw the conclusion that Obama knew Wright's views and beliefs and yet he CHOSE to associate closely with him and continuted to keep him as his mentor and held him in great respect.
    So I IHAVE TO DRAW THE CONCLUSION THAT OBAMA IS LYING WHEN HE SAYS HE WAS NOT AWARE OF WRIGHTS VIEWS OR HIS SPEECHES.
    WORSE, when the going got tough, he DUMPED his mentor merely for POLITICAL EXPEDIENCY. I have more regard for Wright than for Obama. At least Wright admitted to his views, while Obama is a 2-dime politician who does everything to win (including dumping his mentor, whose views he most certainly shared).
    I was an Obama supporter - mostly at the prospect of electing the first black president thereby showing the world that America has better morals than the rest of the world and has overcome the blot of racial inequality. But after his lying and after his true colors were revealed, I hate him for cheating me and many like me.
    He also has no plan. He talks nonsense. How is he going to fix the economy? He says he will pull the troops out of Iraw without a proper plan (of course he is lying about that too). He is lying on NAFTA. IN FACT HE IS THE BIGGEST LIAR OF THE THREE CANDIDATES

    Posted by sam May 4, 08 02:54 AM
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  1. Attention All Hillary Suppoters From DarrellP!!

    Hillary should not quit this race just to make the gender-biased media or the Obama's campaign and supporters happy. Obama is not experienced enough to be President, the only reason Obama is ahead is because some of the Republicans crossed over in some primaries to help Obama become the nominee to make it easier for McCain to win the general election, when that time comes if Obama is the nominee, these same Republicans and Independents will go back to party lines and vote for McCain, So in the long-term, Obama has not gained anything but a sure lose to McCain, because after The Republican Swift boat Machine get through with him, he'd wish he'd stepped down and gave the nomination to a more experienced candidate like Hillary, the Swift boaters will eat Novice Obama alive, causing us to lose the general election for sure, at least we have a better chance with Hillary bringing home the Presidency for our party.

    I'm suggesting that all Hillary supporters not unite behind Obama or the DNC if Hillary is not the nominee, because the way she was biasedly and unfairly treated by the gender-biased media and the Obama campaign, All Hillary supporters at that time should either stay home, vote for Hillary as a write-in Candidate, vote for McCain, or Nader, this is to protest the DNC, the media, and Obama's campaign for not being fair and balanced towards Hillary.

    If Hillary were losing fair and square, I would not be calling on all Hillary supporters to do everything they can in the general election to help block Obama's Presidency, but since they did not want to play fair, we should not unite the party around Obama who's truly not prepared to take on this office and be able to clean-up and fix the mess Bush will leave behind, Hillary is prepared now to step up to the plate, and start tuning this country around on Day One of her Presidency as oppose to Obama who needs a lot of on the job training before he could even start doing the duties of the President.

    Obama should be the one to step down and let someone with experience and know-how like Hillary to fix America's ills, and then in four more years, Maybe gave Obama a chance to continue fixing and enhancing what Hillary has done in her 4 or eight year term to turn this country in the right direction, Obama is still very young, so he would have his chance to be President again, but for now Obama needs more time in the Senate in order to strengthen his skills in Congress and then win for President after he's gained a little more experience.

    I hope all Hillary supporters follow my lead, if Obama get's the nomination, try and block his Presidency and vote for Hillary as an write-in candidate, vote for McCain, Nader, or stay home in protest of the DNC throwing Hillary under the Bus to nominate a less experienced candidate than Hillary, I'm also considering also leaving this party and going Independent if Hillary does not get the Nomination, I just can't back a candidate who I don't trust or have confidence in to do the job of uniting and fixing the mess Bush will leave behind, I hope other strong Hillary supporters will follow my lead, no uniting this party around Obama or the DNC, go Independent if you have to like I will if Hillary quits, forced, or pressured out of this race. I see that there are still many males and a few females who still are having a problem with women trying to become President in this country, the glass ceiling is still forever present when it comes to a woman trying to run for this office, So voters and the DNC - Leadership and some lawmaker’s in Congress would rather put up a inexperienced male candidate over an experienced woman candidate to be President what a shame, well, I will not support it, I'm voting for a candidate based on his or her experience, not on race or gender, Hillary meets that standard and criteria now.

    Go Hillary!! Never ever give-up, Never quit, fight until this nomination process is decided by the Super delegates, because you or Obama can't win the nomination without the Super delegates approval, and let the chips fall where they may. I still think you can win the nomination at the DNC Convention, don't get discouraged a lot of supporters are behind you and have your back, this Presidency is worth staying in the race at all cost, because the steaks are to high just to turn the nomination over to a novice Senator Obama, who has a lesser of a chance of beating McCain than you do, you will give McCain a run for his money.

    Posted by Darrell P. May 5, 08 05:29 PM
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  1. Madame President,get used to it!

    Posted by silver lake mom May 6, 08 10:57 AM
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  1. KEEP GOING, HILLARY!! Never give up!!! What happened between you and Bill is strictly between husband and wife no matter where it happened. You cannot give in to all the news commentators who now sound like the work at Obama headquaters or Fox News. Shame on them!! Bush and Cheney should both be impeached and banned from politics forever for the lies about Iraq, the financial jeopardy the have put our once great country in, and many other things too numerous to talk about here. GO! GO! GO!

    Posted by Louise F. May 7, 08 11:32 AM
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