A majority thinks Obama will win
After the first full week of general election mode, Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain are statistically even in the latest Gallup poll, 44 percent to 42 percent in tracking surveys conducted June 12-14.
But the Gallup survey, released this morning, shows that a clear majority of Americans believe Obama will win in November. He leads in the perception measure 52 percent to 41 percent, with 76 percent of Democrats and 50 percent of independents predicting an Obama victory. Two-thirds of Republicans believe McCain will win.
Gallup notes that interestingly, while Obama's support during the primaries was skewed toward younger voters, they are the least optimistic that America will elect its first black president. Only 48 percent of those 18 to 34 said they believe Obama will win, while 52 percent of those between 35 and 54 did, and 55 percent of those 55 and older did.
The survey was conducted June 9-12 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.



urrah!!! OBAMA OBAMA rah rah rah!!!
It is just shameless that McSame is collecting social security. I am sure he has the middle class in mind as we pay for his healthcare and social security check!
I will never vote for Obama. Never.
Obama doesn't have much competition, so he should win. McCain is an idiot and a war-monger (just another Bush)... and the country has had enough of that over the past 8 years. Obama is fraud, a great con-artist, and a racist, but at least he will be a change (hopefully less destructive) than the disaster we now have. It's a shame that this great country doesn't have more to choose from this election year. Let's hope that someone (an independent candidate) with character, morals, and desire to do something good for this nation will enter the race. Let's not just hope ... let's pray for a miracle. Our country is in trouble and we need a "great leader" , not just a figure head.
i beleive obama will win. He is an amazing person and he cares for America!
Aint gonna happen. No matter how much the press wants him to win it just aint gonna happen. I am not a racist but the majority of voters are white males. Obamma is not going to win this election becasue of this fact.
The more noteworthy story is the Gallup poll shows a statistical dead heat. Who cares who thinks will win? That's why they have the election.
Last January a majority of Americans thought the Patriots would win the Super Bowl.
How'd that work out?
I think McCain will win - who would vote for a guy who is a "baby killer" and raised in the Muslin faith? Are Americans that blind and uneducated - do they realise their taxes will be raised and the economy will sink? Of course, the terrorists are behind him a 100 % and Palestine will be thrilled.
Well...I would say he is the lessor of the evils. I respect McCain tremendously but.. I don't believe he can handle the stress and strain of leading the nation and the world for that matter. Hillary would make a better leader than either of them but...
I really don't trust Oback's judgement and integrity but he's the best we got.
I do believe he is a shinning star for us folks making less than $50k/yr.
Young people are sometimes afraid of getting their hearts broken---so they protect themselves by putting up defenses, claiming that things might not work out; even when they want things to work out more than anything. So, it doesn't surprise me that less than half actually believe Barack Obama will win. Less then half actually believe that their boyfriend/girlfriend will be with them for the long term, etc.
But they'll be out to vote this year---just as they keep going out to find that right person, no matter what.
I think he will win...he represents change in America's politic and diplomacy. When I see or hear him, I feel him; his passion, it more believable than any of these candidates. He would be a new face for, not only America, but Global. The candidates always preach the same over politics; what they going to do if they are elected, Obama offers a different solution. Change begins with US, and right now Obama haves that, he motivates and inspire Young Americans to do better, Middle Age Americans to work harder, thus ensuring the older Americans that this America is more prominent and proverbial than they found it. Look, I'm not saying he's perfect and has no flaws, but look at the alternative...a Country in a never-ending war, playing babysitters to a Grown and Sovereign Nation. Besides, how can we point out the wrongs in another nation, if we haven't conformed our travesties?
I now do not believe in "polls". I believe these "polls" have a lot to do with who the media wants in the White House. There are over 4 months to go so what's the use of these stupid "polls".
Only the criminally insane Republican core base believes Mc Cain even has a shot. This is the year the Obama express for change is coming out of the station with all cylinders firing.
Go Barack Go
YES WE CAN
Stating that one "thinks" Obama will win, doesn't at all imply that one "will vote" for him. It doesn't follow that just because one "thinks" Obama will win, that one "believes" Obama is the best candidate.
The whole scenario may simply represent that many older voters can clearly see that McCain is in an unwinnable situation, just like Clinton was, whereby the sly and dirty politics and calls of racism against Obama's opponents will ensure a win for Obama. The younger voters, as a whole, are too enamored by Obama to see through the smoke and mirrors of Obama's campaign.
Try another more accurate poll.
Welcome to survey's being manipulated by the pollsters. Don't believe the data these numnuts are trying to pawn off on you.
I'm a little old lady from Pasadena (not his core demographics by any stretch) who is thrilled that we have the possibility, no matter how remote, we can bring America back to the standing in the world where it was before the Bush team bought their way into power. Saw him in person speaking, shook his hand and was an instant volutneer, though I've never done anything like that before. He truly does exude hope.
This election boils down to this. Do we want to continue living in a country where a very small group of people continue to pilliage the countries resources for the sake of profit while the average american suffers. Or,do we want to begin a new era that includes all americans. Forget that Obama is Black. Remember he is a Democrat. If he is not elected we will all pay the price.
R Warren Brewer
"Only 48 percent of those 18 to 34 said they believe Obama will win..." I hope this perception doesn't keep that group of people out of the polls!
We pray for Obama victory,we are his ultimate supporters in Nigeria.
Isn't the title of this column an oxymoron?
"A Majority Thinks..." Think. 'A majority' is a singular. We all don't "thinks" --We KNOWS! :p
LOL... nice editing.
it is known! Republican Era is over. it only works for few wealthy people. Majority of Americans are suffering while those greedy wealthy people get wealthier.
Democrats for 08!
Exactly how does this count as a news story? Except to try and build up peer pressure to vote for Obama, ("Everyone else thinks he's going to win, why don't you?") what is the point of taking an opinion poll this far ahead of the election and before any debates? It should state at the end "I'm Barack Obama and I approve this article"
Im very optimistic that Obama will win the November election cos he's more focused than any other candidate.. CHANGE!!
The question is, How can McCain win?
SAY WHAT YOU MAY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU NOW THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITERD STATES WILL NOT ELECT AN ARAB AS PRESIDEN...and with a wife that is a radical ....just watch...bnroters
"I will never vote for Obama. Never."
Well, Paula, WHO CARES? You don't even give a reason.
They only polled 822 people and the article goes on to say that "a clear majority of Americans believe..."
What a bunch of idiots. The media is just after $$$$, that's it. People with half of a brain need to dig up the truth because the profit-hungry media is never going to give it to them. All the Boston Globe et al will give them are stories that generate money.
This news would be very upsetting for the segment of the male population suffering from psychopathy (bout 20 percent are inflicted), a segment overwhelmingly Republican, had they the ability to feel as normal people do.
No he will not win it is too funny how the media is trying to push an Obama win.
so stop dreaming ok. Obama will loose because his supporters are full of hate.
as a clinton supporter I will be voting republican. The Obama supporters destroyed any chance of my support because of their attitude toward us.
Clinton will be the next president we just have to wait 4 more years before this happens.
Obama will not win......the more people see him and actually listen to what he is not saying, they will be able to see thru him.....he doesn't have leadership qualities....as for the economy.....his plans will come at a great cost to the American people....the plans may sound good,,,but look at the price tag...and we will pay it.....the more government gets involved, the more complicated and pricey things become, and that's exactly what he proposes..more of this and that controlled by the government......as for McCain not being able to stand the stress....he has already proven he can.....5 years in Viet Nam Prison Camp...and he didn't break.....give me a dedicated American patriot any day over a young, totally inexperienced, orator.....who seems to be somewhat of a questionable nature......America can not afford to take a chance on someone that has only been
a mouthpiece....and that's what Obama is .....a mouthpiece....I remember the Carter years....and alot of what Obama is proposing comes straight from the Carter book.......those were not good times for this country....we're still paying the price for some of his programs....Give me McCain any day......Obama doesn't deserve the presidency.........McCain has earned it....
obama cant win He is really Osama with a shaved beard . Look close and youll see. Lets not forget hes also a Natzi like your pope.
THE TOP TEN REASONS OBAMA WILL LOOSE THE 2008 ELECTION
10. Hilliary Clinton and supporters got mad that Obama won the game so she took her ball and went home.
9. Obama rhymes with Osama.
8. Obama is from Chicago where the politics are so muddy that you get stuck.
7. Them dang racists are everywhere.
6. Ol' McCain was a veteran and that still counts for something with folks.
5. Experience, Experience, Experience (and playing D&D won't help the feller)
4. Claims to be an outsider although he is a congressman.
3. Can you say "Reverend White? Amen!"
2. Can you follow with "I most sadly regret to disown....(most unpopular issue of the day).
1. There is no difference between republicans and democrats.
Go Obama! He will win and start cleaning up the mess that Bush has left us.
lol @ above (26). He is definately one of the 20-25% of people who still have a favorable approval rating for Bush. You know... the ones that make you scratch your head.
Only a republican, a rich person, or a fool would vote for McCain after 8 years of lies from Bush.
None of these polls are statistically figuring in the fact that a wide region of the United States is racially biased. These are people who do not normally vote in primaries or elections who will vote during this election for the sole purpose of keeping an African American from becoming president. The majority of these polls are based on primary exit polling. Such exit polls neglect the threat of those who will vote for the sole purpose of keeping an African American from becoming president. It is for this reason that I predict a McCain win. I also believe that a significant amount of Hillary supporters will defect to McCain based on the race issue.
Kevoh,
I am a white male - I am going to vote Obama.
jerry wayne and others alike, you are an imbecilic, ignorant demented person...either that or you are still yet to check your facts. Obama was not raised muslim and why is his wife a radical? Is it because she posses the same charismatic intelligence and intellect her husband does. The Obamas are answered prayers for this nation. If God says yes, there is nothing you racist uneducated dimwits can do about it.
Lets's see..... black liberation theology's basis is that racism is the cause of all of the black mans' problems, and Barack spent 20 years in the church. Hello??? Can you say Farakan??? Where is the unity there?
Michele is only proud of America now? She could have moved someplace she was proud of. Couldn't give up that $370,000 salary I guess.
If Barack Hussein is elected he wants to invade Pakistan?? Why not Kuwait?
Just love it! The facts don't fit your needs so spin it. Polls have it as a tie so you manufacture a "who people think will win category". Love you libs...
I know...I know, Hope and Change and Change and Hope and Hoping the Change makes a Hope because I really need to Change my Hope.
Everybody thought that hillary would win...oh yeah Nour , maybe COS she wasn't as focused...yeah I guess McCain is just doing this in his spare time....."duh change..."
Jeanie, you and Kevoh must have both gone to school in West Virginia...but didn't graduate. Muslin is a type of cloth, while Muslim is the religion of nearly one billion of the world's population. I myself am a Christian, but I know plenty of hard working, law abiding citizens who are Muslims. One of them is the physician who saved my life one night in an emergency. Christ never converted anyone via hatemongering. As for you Kevoh, Obama is spelled with one "m," not two.
If you reached this comment, I applaude you. I think this poll has a paradox attached to it. The older people polled are "resigned" to Obama winning and thus conclude he will. The younger are more anxious that he win but are more fearful and thus conclude he will not. So, the poll results predict the exact opposite of the results will happen...that Obama will not win.
Whatever the poll, if Obama wins, watch out...you thought Hilary ran the Clinton W/H policy agenda, wait 'til "America hating" Michelle is in the President's ear (and whatever) every night...the policy implications are staggering...
Four years ago Kerry was a sure thing!! It was said Bush couldn't win.....a few months ago hillary was a sure thing, she couldn't lose......nobody knows anything about him and he is keeping it that way...
GOD'S SPEED BARACK OBAMA. YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
Let's focus people, sadly, national polls mean NOTHING now. It's all about the electoral college, like it or not, and that means focusing on the swing states, like it or not. Obama's being dillusional saying that he can win without Ohio or Florida. I've been in politics a long time and we at least one of those states' electoral jackpots to win; and both states if formerly blue Michigan goes Red for McCain as it appears to be doing either because of candidate or fallout for DNC decision. Obama's hanging his hat on Georgia, Virginia, Nevada, North Carolina and Colorado is a really exciting prospect. Stated in reality, it's an uphill battle worth fighting and we should expand our Dem hold after Bush naturally. However, to abandon Ohio and Florida is pure lunacy on Obama's part. I thought Clinton was a more electable, pragmatic candidate at the end because of her performance in the states we must win to take the electoral college. You may not like that these voters are more conservative, but the alternative is a Republican. If this is Obama's final answer, I think he loses and I want Clinton to go up as an Independent.
The real winners in this coming election won't be the politicians. It will be us, each one of us, rich and poor, white and black, Latino and Asian, men and women. By awakening to the political process we ensure a close scrutiny of the power that has gone unchecked for so long in Washington, and I don't just mean the White House. The Supreme Court has begun to exert its own checks and balances. The more educated the voter becomes, in all sense of the word, the better democracy we will have to offer to ourselves and to the rest of the world. There is much to be done, from bringing peace to our nation, to becoming involved in helping those in greater need, to taking care of our own planet. Let's get going!
It is amazing to me that the left feels that if you do not vote for Obama you are an idiot!
This is the kind of thinking that always kills the left wing zealots. Disrespect for normal Americans.
Obama is an Amercican. Obama is a Christian. He was raised a Christian. He went to a Christian school overseas.. He was born in the United States.
Stop believing the lies -- and stop listening to the liers Rush Limbaugh and Fox News -- or the U.S. will wind up an even more autocratic dictatorship than it already is. Stop being such useful idiots for those who will destroy your future and your children's future. Bush is the one who is serving the Arabs. Haven't you ever seen him grovel before Saudi oil princes. He's disgusting!
I wish we all face the reality of our economic crisis. It is time for all Americans to come together and build a strong nation of prosperity. We are sick and tired of racism, discrimination, and hate. How can you claim to be christian if you don't accept others in your community? Don't tell me this is because of their skin color.
I don't know what kind of Bible you racists got, but let me tell you that God created us based on His own Image and His own Appearance. He is Black, White, Yellow, Red,... and so on. I want you to turn your racism off and let your mind and heart tell you who to vote for in november for the good of this country.
Its such a shame that all of these negative comments on here are spawned from the simple fact that Obama is a BLACK man...
If he was white...none of this would even be an issue...he would be a lock in for the White House this November...
Becuase only an idiot or a racsist would want four more years of crap under McBush...
I'm behind Obama a billion trillion quadillion even gazillion percent. Obama has to win.I'm voting for Obama. No way I'm voting for McBush,McSame,McWar,McTaxriser.Don't get me wrong I respect McCain's miliarty service,but he ain't ready to lead a country.Obama is the 1 that will make America a better.I believe the CHANGE.
Reading some of these comments, says alot for the state of education in this country of ours. Mispelled words, very bad grammar, ah it's enough to make an English Professor's hair turn whiter than it already is!
If my opinion is worth anything, I think SEN Obama will win in November, but then I thought Hillary would win!!
I am being very careful when I say that anyone would be better than the Bush/Cheney Gestapo we have now!!!
Rick
The fact the he is black has nothing to do with how i will vote. I will note for a left wing America hater... Who is going to give my money to people who do not work...
Colin Powell, now there is someone I could vote for...
Racist much, Paula? Why else on earth would you "never vote for Obama"?
When asked which candidate they will vote for the polls show a statistical tie and when asked who they think will win, the majority believes Obama. Lucky the general election is all on one day and therefore the media will not be able to sway votes between states, like in the primary. This poll shows that Obama and McCain are about tied with 14% undecided. People watching msnbc and cnn would think that Obama is expectedf to win and they are going to be very surprised when the votes are cast. Watching Chris Matthews back peddle is going to be fun on November 5th.
Vote McCAIN 2008 and HILLARY 2012
The fact the he is black has nothing to do with how i will vote. I will note for a left wing America hater... Who is going to give my money to people who do not work...
Colin Powell, now there is someone I could vote for...
Hey mogogoo,
You should put in a little academic effort before you insert foot. "A majority thinks" is the correct grammatical phrase. You might rethink who is "lol".
As far as my comment, (my original intent until I read magogoo), I firmly believe Obama will be elected president despite the abundance of truly misguided and poorly educated respondents out there.
Remember John Stuart Mill's quote: "I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative."
I think its clear that Obama has the smart edge over Mcain and America is ready for someone like him, Mccain is too much the stiff rightist, too much in The George Bush mold, we need a change and Obama represents that change
I can’t believe that we have been sending people into space for decades now. we have made amazing health, wellness, and technological advances but yet still have retards talking about not voting for someone because they’re black…you’d rather loose your home, struggle to keep your job and make life decision at the gas pump than to vote for a black man???? How stupid.. Sorry but the rest of us would rather not punish ourselves because of our insecurities or particular biases. It is time to free your mind and stop with the 3rd grade “he’s an Arab” claims. No Muslim would deny their faith and pose as a Christian..Ever..And whoever Jeanie Leonard is oh my. calling the man a” baby killer” are you serious??? He’s not an abortion doctor, he’s a lawyer. Those are two different professions so who’s uneducated as you called the rest of us”Americans”.if you don’t support his direction fine. That’s understandable but the rest of us are voting for hope, through our intellect and with what we know America really stands for. We’ve let the rest of you give us George Bush (who hasn’t been talking so cowboy lately ..I wonder why???). Now if you would please stop making decision for America…John Mcbain is not the answer and you will continue your suffering under him..
I really like comment #8:
"I think McCain will win - who would vote for a guy who is a "baby killer" and raised in the Muslin faith? Are Americans that blind and uneducated - do they realize their taxes will be raised and the economy will sink? Of course, the terrorists are behind him a 100 % and Palestine will be thrilled."
It seems that the most ignorant of those out there can't even spell MusliM. So Jeanie, most American's aren't "blind and uneducated," just you. I should also point out that I’m a Republican and it saddens me that this party has veered off from its roots.
Obama has not reached where he is because he won any favors or got lucky. He has fought nail and tooth and poured his heart out with conviction for the right things and for United States. In a war, he'd be a true soldier, a real flag bearer, a hero! Being black has been one of his odds to fight. He won the nomination because he won the fights, and came back home limping. The orther one lost and went into hidding. Now Americans need to take just one more look at Bush, then McBush, and guess what the legacy of the Republicans will do next: finish off what is left till the country falls to pieces with the world-China, Russia and Africa, laughing at us. Wake up people! Forget colors and racism. Support Obama and have another chance at life or perish!
It'll never happen no matter how many times the left media puts him in the spotlight. Lots of reasons including his big mouth wife. You will not see a black man in the Whitehouse - this country is not ready for that. Especially a black man of his caliber. This is not a racist perspective either so don't go there!!
With Obama the world will be transformed into paradise. The lion shall lay with the lamb; the dead shall rise, the blind see, the deaf hear, the lame walk, and the Republican shall feel. One touch of the hem of his garmemt and thou shall be made whole. All you need is faith and hope! The m(asses) shall provide the charity.
I am appalled that there are so many ignorant people in this country. Barack Obama has said he will decrease taxes on the middle class but increase the social security tax (so we'll decrease one to increase another), he spent 20 years sitting as part of a congregation that cheered when their preacher slammed American. Let me go one; his wife is a hate filled woman who despises the white race, and even mentions in her thesis that the black community will be first and foremost in her life. From statements she's made in the past, it's quite obvious she doesn't care about white, Hispanic, Native, or Asian America, just black America. The man doesn't even have the courage to confront Senator McCain in an unscripted debate, he must have scripted questions should he attend. SAD!!
I don't know if all Americans are blind and uneducated Jeanie, but YOU certainly are.
RE: :I think McCain will win - who would vote for a guy who is a "baby killer" and raised in the Muslin faith? Are Americans that blind and uneducated - do they realise their taxes will be raised and the economy will sink? Of course, the terrorists are behind him a 100 % and Palestine will be thrilled.
Posted by Jeanie Leonard June 16, 08 11:41 AM"
It is unfortunate that all of these McCainites seem to want to ignore the fact that their boy also said "It is difficult to proud of America" so why isn't he a radical and an America hater?? The best thing we can all do as Americans is to admit when we are wrong and then get on with the business of upholding truth, justice and the American way!!
There is plenty that America has done wrong, they have wronged their own and continue to abuse their power under the Bush regime. Ask the Vietnam vets, the vets from Desert Storm and the vets now returning from Iraq. Is this the America we can be proud of that deines responsibility for the chemical poisoning of their own soldiers? Is this the America to be proud of that denies their illness' exist? The America that leaves the veterans families to fend for themselves and then leaves them homeless?? That is not the America of the world war II era,that is not the America who said give me your tired and your hungry. America needs a change! We are that change, OBAMA is that CHANGE!!!
In response to #6 comment above. In the 2004 presidential election, white males accounted for 36% of the votes cast. White voters are a majority at 71%, but the 36% would need to bring 14% from the larger proportion of women along, and neither group will vote as a bloc. The statistical statements listed above are of the sorts of assertions known as 'facts'.
VOTE McCAIN to Keep U.S. in PAIN.
VOTE for MCLame to Keep U.S. in Shame!
Obama will win.McCain is already old,,, by the time he completes 4 years,,,,he will be older.
The liberal media is already touting Obama. Most all headlines contain the word Obama. They know the "anything goes" crowd is in the majority and cater to them to get viewers. Free advertising for the preacher man. However it will not be as easy to pull over as it was with Clinton.
The Republican Party has gained its power in the last years by - in a bizarre turn, considering that if anything it is the 'elite' party - sucking up to the uneducated and the fanatically religious, becoming the new shock jocks of politics, appealing to visceral emotion by trumping up the old moral values and downplaying the complexities of policy, and topping it all off with a vicious 'attack dog' approach meant specifically to convince those without enough education or exposure to the facts to understand what is true and what is not.
The terrible 'left' that people bash so often is what a lot of people end up fleeing to in fear of the police state that the New Republican party (i.e. neo-conservative) has attempted to construct. Indeed: the Democratic party, in fact, is today the party of freedom and individual rights. Not the Republican party. The Republican party has become the harbinger of an odd political combination, where there is little economic regulation, but lots of moral, specifically religiously-based regulation. In other words, allowing financial freedom but determining individual, ideological freedom. Which would YOU rather have?
I believe McCain is true terrorist whom has nothing in his mind but to bomb other nations. Vote for Obama who has the ability to talk with other nation and take us out of this misery we've been experiencing for the last eight years.
I will vote for Obama for these reasons:
1. McCain is too old.
2. Not Concervative enought.
3. He will not stop the on going wars.
4. Let have the younger generation run the US.
Some of you think Obama is Racist. Not True!
There are more 3 times more Racist Republicans Support McCain than churches in the South.
There are white people will never vote non-white politician regardless of party.
The Clan, Neo Nazis, White Suppremist support McCain.
All the Religious Ultra-Right Hard-Core Christian Extremist who want to replace the Constitution with the Bible or any hard-core Ultra Right Wingers support McCain.
"I think McCain will win - who would vote for a guy who is a "baby killer" and raised in the Muslin faith? Are Americans that blind and uneducated - do they realise their taxes will be raised and the economy will sink? Of course, the terrorists are behind him a 100 % and Palestine will be thrilled."
Reply To Jeanie Leonard >> are you that blind an uneducated?? This is so sad that people like you easily get brainwashed by FOX news. extremist muslims are are brainwashing people the same way Fox is brainwashing you. This is so sad.
>>The fact the he is black has nothing to do with how i will vote. I will note for a left wing America hater... Who is going to give my money to people who do not work
Ahhh...so you must be in the OTHER catagory Gary...
Since it appears that you so easily buy into the conservative propoganda machine...
Barring a statistical freak of nature, Obama will win notwithstanding the racists and the "dim bulbs" far to the right. I sincerely believe McCain loves this country and wants to do the right thing (no pun intended), but his proposed course is not the way to go.
McCain will win thank god. When the small percentage of the country that actually thinks about the issues realizes what a leftist, socialist, communist leaning radica Obama is, they will vote for McCain. Of course, a good 50% of the country will be totally oblivious and skip the polls all together. Which is good news for successful folk like myself whose wealth Obama so zealously wants to confiscate.
Of course he is going to win and dont forget that white voters WILL be the reason he is in office. Blacks are only around 17% of the population so dont think that the 98% of them voting for him ( very racial by the way ) was enough to get him in office. ( thats for all you race baters out there J.J and A.S ) I think we are in BIG trouble either way and dont be fooled it will be politics as usual no matter who gets elected. Big Business runs the country not the president. G.B has been a puppet these last 8 years and B.O will dance the tune his masters tell him to also. However as much as I dislike B.O because I believe he is dishonest, racist and underqualified for the job putting McShame in office would be just as bad if not worse. I dont trust ANYONE thats been in washington that long. WAKE UP
PEOPLE!!!!! Do you really think WE THE PEOPLE decide who is in office? lol...
Just like the elections before that put that mental midget in office now, it has already been decided who is going to win. I hope that B.O will prove to be a president to everyone and will make REAL changes........but Im not very optimistic.
McCain thinks Putin is the president of Germany. McCains own mother said the only way the GOP would back him is if they held their nose, I heard the GOP was going to get rid of McCain. Obama is going to put McShame to bed, right where he belongs.
I had no idea Boston was so full of racists, what a shame.
Guess we'll just have to elect Barack without the dimwit block.
Interesting, the race is statistically tied, and yet people are predicting an Obama loss.
Here's why I think he'll lose:
a) VERY liberal voting record. This is a right/centrist country and he cannot hide from his votes.
b) The red states will remain red. I cannot see otherwise.
Remember folks, we elect Presidents based on electoral college votes, not popular vote. In the end, being black will have nothing to do with it. Being very liberal will.
In response to post #26:
"SAY WHAT YOU MAY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU NOW THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITERD STATES WILL NOT ELECT AN ARAB AS PRESIDEN...and with a wife that is a radical ....just watch...bnroters"
I had to laugh audibly when I read this. Or should I say "stumbled through this"? But before you start throwing accusations around, I would suggest you check your facts. On both points, you missed the target.
I've also seen references to "Obama will not win because *blah blah blah* and most voters are white" or "because he's black" or whatever. (Note: I'm a white male in my mid 30's.) What cold, hard rule states that a white boy from the south can't vote for a black candidate? I mean, when he's obviously the best candidate we have, I don't see an alternative.
SERIOUSLY PEOPLE!! Sit and listen to what he *IS* saying instead of fabricating what he ISN'T saying, and you'll begin to realize that a slight increase in taxes is a very small price to pay for a significant improvement in the economy. It CAN happen... It HAS happened before, and it WILL happen again.
And this "too old" thing is just nonsense. People are living longer now, and 71 is far more vital now than 70 was 28 years ago when Reagan was elected. We had a President elected in the 1800's, William Henry Harrsion, who was 68 when the life expectancy was about 50. McCain is 71 when men in this country, on average, live to 75. He also has a mom in her 90's!
Let's put things in context. McCain isn't too old to be President.
I find it funny that Democrats are trying to make him out to be some sort of "Bush the Third." McCain has been a thorn in the butt to conservatives because of his maverick nature. Obama couldn't be running against a worse opponent, for him.
I'm not American but I think you've got the greatest choice in presidential candidates you've had in years-- as at least The Economist has noticed ( "America At Its Best" http://www.economist.com/opinion/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=11496904)
Given the limits of the office and the quality of the people each is likely to surround himself with, I don't think you can go too far wrong
So ease up on the wingnut hate-ins and enjoy campaign 08 as a vote for the better of two goods, as opposed to the lesser of two evils...
Jason in post 85 says re Obama:
"listen to what he *IS* saying instead of fabricating what he ISN'T saying, "
No, look as what he HAS DONE. Look at his pals (they define him). Look at the shady characters who helped him in Chicago. Of course he SAYS those were not the persons he knew. You need some experience in judging character. But then, birds of a feather flock together. Always.
>> We had a President elected in the 1800's, William Henry Harrsion, who was 68 when the life expectancy was about 50.
hey, does anyone remember what happened to william henry harrison?
oh, that's right--he died after a month!
i'm not saying mccain shouldn't get the job because he's too old (there are far better reasons to not vote for him), but "william henry harrison was old too!" is probably the worst argument ever.
Obama represents an aspect of America that I feel comfortable being associated with. That is, a thoughtful, dignified and articulate America. I appreciate his multi-ethnic upbringing, his education level and his global outlook. His demeanor and attitude suggest urbane sophistication, while at the same time, an appropriate level of humility and consideration for all Americans, including those who are not necessarily like him.
I cannot relate at all to people who embrace the Bush administration and also think McCain looks like a great candidate. These people just seem uneducated and narrow minded. They don't seem to posses critical thinking skills. Furthermore, they seem to have a very specific view of what America represents, and I don't agree with that view. The Republican view is an us/them, combative kind of attitude. What the world needs is American administration with an us/us view point. The future will bring with it increased economic globalization, and the President of the United States needs to have a good grasp of that reality.
This country has serious internal cultural divisions. This presidential race seems to be bringing that division to a boiling point, with each candidate representing a particular aspect of American society and culture. I hope that Obama wins and that the dominating cultural influence in our society becomes characterized by clear thinking, educated, dignified and peaceful individuals.
McCain wasn't good enough to vote for last time he ran for president, so why would he be now? Hypocrite Repukelican'ts.
Obama rhymes with Osama? What kind of idiot would think that was a valid point? Santa rearranged is....OOOOOH! SATAN!!! Jesus rhymes with Agregious!!!!
he will only win on press... especially on a bias website like this which is among those paid by obama to circulate such news.
I continue to be amazed at the vulgar language used by liberals/conservatives to berate conservatives/liberals. In my humble opinion, the most dangerous issue for this nation is the absolute polarization by 20% on the right and 20% on the left.
I would hope that at some time both the left and right could moderate their less than helpful behavior and language. Compromise, not vulgar confrontation, is the stuff of nation building.
Jeanie Leonard....Wow...speaking of uneducated!!!
It's ok Hillary supporters, we don't need or want your vote...vote McCain and be a two time loser! idiots!
To me... the biggest thing either of these candidates (as senators) Have ever managed is this political campaign. They are not governors, they are not businessmen. They are senators. So I base my judgements of them on how they run their campaign, and how they handle such issues as the gas tax etcetera...
I like Obama's approach, because he really pays attention to the details, he knows by cutting the federal sales tax on gas the oil companies will continue with the raise in prices. Which is effected by the market of course (options buying). And we're only going to lose out on our infrastructure taking a dump.
Do we really want Evangelical Christian to continue influencing US policies?
Using the Bible and misintepretation of Bible to dictate policies on science, global politics, feed the 3rd world countries, etc etc.
Do we really want Bible replacing the Constitution? Ask the Ultra-Right Wing Hard Core Evangelical Christians some times known as Dominionist. E.G. Dobbs, Fawell, to name a few.
Do we want Bizzare interpretation of the Bible dictating world policies in the US?
Isreal, End of Days, Anti-Christ
Do we want Bible interpretations telling us Global Warming does not exist? Dobbs thinking it a myth because it not in the Bible. Plus, Bible say earth to humans only.
Do we want Evangelical Christians telling us their Psuedo Science? Intelligent Design, Evolutions, Stem Cell Research, and latest Space Exploration (Member the World is Flat, you fall off)
Do we want Evangelical Christians telling us to hate other religions and other forms of Christianity? Anything not Evangelical Christian is Evil. Mormons, Catholics and Lutherans are not Christians. Etc... Etc...
Do we want Evangelical Christians to preach Bullenomics? "Christians believed that God wanted them to be wealthy" be rich as possible and screwed your fellower human especially if the are not Evangelical Christians.
Do we want Evangelical Christians tell everyone to go into massive debt because they thing the End of Days is near? End of the World Believes.
If you answer Yes to any of the above questions,
Vote for John McCain
Many Americans seem to need some lessons on basic American Government, because they seem to support their candidate of choice based on issues that the president has no control over: primarily economics, health care, and the war in Iraq. In regards to economics, people argue one side or another will raise or lower taxes. But the president can’t change taxes. Congress does that. In regards to health care, reform cannot occur unless congress passes a bill to do so. And the Iraq War, the president may only execute the war, but a president can’t fund a war. If the democrats are so against the war, why haven’t they just stopped its funding? Because neither the democrats nor the republicans have quite figured out how to get out of the mess without upsetting the rest of the world, so neither is going to just pull the plug immediately.
That being said, instead of arguing over issues for which the president has no control, why not argue the issues that a president can control. First, International Diplomacy. The president is the individual that must speak on behalf of the nation. As such, we probably want a leader that is charismatic, likeable, and uses inviting rhetoric. I think few can deny that Obama is a talented orator, and probably more so than McCain. Whether you like Bill Clinton or not, his invitational rhetoric when dealing with Iran lead to decreased fear and suspicion of the United States, which led to more civil rights for their people, which in turn led to a favorable view of the United States. Then Bush and his hardline rhetoric came into play, and suddenly Iran began to invest more into nuclear power. Why, to protect itself against a feared country. Like it or not, the president is a figure head, but that is a good thing. A president should never have too much power for fear of a monarch; that is what congress is for. Rhetoric is the most powerful tool in a president’s arsenal, and thus we should elect a person that is skilled at it. That is why Obama has been compared so often to JFK.
There are other issues a president has direct control over, but this post is getting long, and I think I have made my point by now.
To "JM" the poster who commented as below. I guess you are so racist you do not even know what it means and how clearly what you said is racist. I mean, saying something that is racist is not negated by going on to say that it is not. Wow! Now I have seen it all. God Help America from this kind of mentality.
"It'll never happen no matter how many times the left media puts him in the spotlight. Lots of reasons including his big mouth wife. You will not see a black man in the Whitehouse - this country is not ready for that. Especially a black man of his caliber. This is not a racist perspective either so don't go there!!
Posted by JM June 16, 08 02:44 PM"
I agree with Jason in post 85 who says re Obama:
"listen to what he *IS* saying instead of fabricating what he ISN'T saying, "
I disagree with Billw who says:
"No, look as what he HAS DONE. Look at his pals (they define him). Look at the shady characters who helped him in Chicago. Of course he SAYS those were not the persons he knew. You need some experience in judging character. But then, birds of a feather flock together. Always.
Posted by Billw June 16, 08 04:39 P"
I suggest that you take a look at McCain and while you are at it, you might look in the mirror..... I think you are posting here simply to smear.... Neither of the people of whom you speak define Obama. Obama defines Obama as I am sure you will feel you define yourself. Clean up your own act....
I'll vote for a black man/woman if s/he is as knowledgeable and experienced as Colin Powell or Condolezza Rice. Not Obama! He is shallow. (He can't answer any question substantively. His answers are canned and shallow, like those we hear from beauty pageant contestants. "My dream is to work on world peace... care for sick children... ") He is a liar. (He says he doesn't agree with his pastor... who can believe that!) He is a smoker. (Who smokes these days?)
To those who kept asking if our country is ready for a black president: Don't change the subject! The problem with Obama is not that he is black. His problem is that he is not qualified to be President. He doesn't have the knowledge and experience. PERIOD.
Hey C'mon everybody. If Obama gets elected we will be able to fill up our gas tanks with 15 gallons worth of hope. That will get us through the work week. What a joke.
These are all very interesting points and why this coming November will be exciting. I will make my decision when I see the debates this Fall. Obama is an great speaker and I like his enthusiasm but I am not sure that he is the best candidate for this November. Bush has pushed us so far to the right that we need to get back to neutral before true change can occur and I think McCain can do that while not digging us any deeper. I don't think McCain will be a great President but I do think he has the experience to start to steer the country back into the proper channel. I think the Republican party has taken a beating because of Bush/Cheney (and rightfully so) but McCain is not Bush and should not be punished because of his party ties - that would be like not voting for Obama after Carter was in office. I will choose based upon the candidate - not the party.
Paul Stewart said:
"I suggest that you take a look at McCain and while you are at it, you might look in the mirror..... I think you are posting here simply to smear.... Neither of the people of whom you speak define Obama. Obama defines Obama as I am sure you will feel you define yourself. Clean up your own act.... "
Right, Obama defined and smeared himself. People are defined by the company they keep, especially for 20 years. Birds of a feather flock together. Always.
If Hillary (or any other third candidate) also runs, it may actually HELP Obama electorally. If Hillary wins several states, it could result in neither of the three candidates winning a majority of the electoral votes. And if no candidate receives a majority of the electoral votes, the House of Representatives votes en-bloc state-by-state (with each state having one vote) for President. Obama (the Democratic candidate) would win in the House of Representatives. The Senate votes for Vice President -- since Senator Lieberman (Conn.) holds the "swing vote" in the Senate, he will probably vote for the Republican VP candidate.
So, you might end up with Obama as President, and a Republican as VP.
Have you looked around lately. Interracial couples are everywhere, the world is changing and has already made huge leaps in the way people view different races. How many white families have African American son-in laws, daughter In-laws, Mixed grandchildren. Get over it, accept it, Racism is a dying breed. America will vote for him because he is the right man. Hands down, Obama will win.
He will win and it will be also symbolic marker for unity in America. Black and Whites fight wars together, side by side and suffer the same economical struggles, the same fears. You can waste your life away spewing racial hatred however karma will find your children and grandchildren in love with someone of another color, whether white or black no matter how much you trained them to do the opposite.
In regards to concerns to Bible replacing consitution: We live on a spinning world in the middle of space. Why?
Uh....hmmm.. .. "In God We Trust" .. Hmm Something to think about.
From reading this post you would think i was african american......
Im a white male. Let's look at him for the man and not for the color.
>>he will only win on press... especially on a bias website like this which is among those paid by obama to circulate such news.
biased. biasED. ughhhh. also, this idea is ridiculous.
>>He is a smoker. (Who smokes these days?)
seriously? seriously?! this is a terrible reason not to vote for someone.
Obama has no chance...no matter how many times Keith Olberman votes for him.
A black muslim in the US...that will be the day.
what people think and what they actually do is another story. I ask all democrats no matter where you are hillary and obama suppoorters alike or independents and even some republicans who dont like how things are going to support Obama.
I ask that we come together on the issue of preserving our environment and going green. I ask that we get out and vote this year. Nothing will happen unless we vote. If you sit back and do nothing , nothing will happen and the neocons will continue to rule this country with an iron fist.
Nice racist comment Man on the street. I thought we were past the 1960's.
lets GET OVER IT.
Obama will be a great president . We will finally end our addiction to oil and begin to slow global warming
People are obsessed with Obama past. Obama is not a muslim, end even if he was provided he did his job properly why would it matter. As to the black criticism, since when is being black a problem, which he technically isn't (race is a continuum of genetics there is no purity of races however much racists would like it to be so). I would actually say that would be a benefit in dealing with other countries, remember that the majority of the world are not caucasians. Obama represents the future.
As to the suggestion that he would be unduly influenced by his wife, what a crock, the man is strong-minded and would not be forced to do something he doesn't believe is good. His wife, while having her own opinion, knows that it will not necessary be listened to.
Obama, Hillary, McCain, Romney none of those clowns will win the November 2008 Election. Because THERE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ANY ELECTIONS! Bush will cancel them and appoint himself dictator for life. He WILL create another "terrorist attack" after he messes with Iran. Then declare Martial Law upon the USA, enacting Patriot Act II which dissolves the US Constitution, and brings in Communist United Nations Troops (already here) to enforce a horrible Martial Law with FEMA Concentration Camps included. Tens of Millions of Americans will die. Your new Dictator For Life, Fuhrer Bush, Seig Heil, will now instruct you on what you will and won't do. Go read the Homeland Security Act and the "Patriot" Acts I and II. It's all right there. View all 2300 Executive Orders within 3500 pages of text. Then you'll know the NWO is almost to be implemented. Get ready for Hell. Obama?, Hillary?, McCain?, Romney?, whatever! lol.
Obama makes bold statements like "I will win" ... but, Obama doesn't deserve to win. After all, what has he done? What qualifies him to run this country ... working as a community organizer, followed by being a junior senator who spent his 16 months running for President. But, the point that's bigger than the fact that Obama doesn't deserve to win, is the fact that the American people deserve much more than an empty suit like Obama. The American people deserve an experienced qualified leader, who truly loves this country ... a leader who can competently guide us through all the challenges that are currently facing this country ... and, that leader is Senator John McCain.
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