Clinton touts popular vote lead
Hillary Clinton didn't get all the delegates she wanted out of the Democratic National Committee's ruling on Florida and Michigan.
But she is trying to make the most of the popular votes she added, claiming that she's now ahead of Barack Obama on that unofficial count.
In a new TV ad that will start airing Monday in Montana and South Dakota -- which hold the final primaries on Tuesday -- she urges voters to "join over 17 million people who’ve voted for a leader to fix the economy….for a commander-in-chief to bring our troops home from Iraq...17 million who want to beat John McCain."
"Seventeen million Americans have voted for Hillary Clinton...more than for any primary candidate in history," the announcer says. "Some say there isn’t a single reason for Hillary to be the Democratic nominee. They’re right. There are over 17 million of them."
Obama, however, leads in the official delegate count and appears likely to surpass the number needed to clinch the nomination on Tuesday night.



Obama "appears likely to surpass the number needed to clinch the nomination on Tuesday night" is pro-Obama biased media speculation.
Obama disenfranchised FL and MI voters with 1/2 votes. The cut-and-dice-the-vote Obama gamed the system and prevailed with the DNC.
Sen. Clinton should appeal the fundamental unfairness to the credentials committee to get every vote counted in full and undo the MI hijacking.
The Democratic primaries end on Tuesda with Sen. Clinton winning the popular vote. Obama will not have a lock on the nominaton; it is impossible for him to get the requisite number of pledged delegates to clinch the nomination. He needs superdelegates to give him the nomination. There should be no superdelegates giving him the nomination if they have the wisdom, integrity and courage to be loyal to their true role in the Democratic Party.
The uncommitted superdelegates must select the best qualified and strongest candidate to win the general election using their independent judgement without regard to any "delegate math."
The superdelegates are not locked in by the pledged delegates. If the superdelegates simply follow the "delegate math" in their decision, they are repudiating the reason the superdelegate system was created and making it completely meaningless.
Superdelegates are confronted with the challenge to be true to their function and responsibility. This calls for the superdelegates to show wisdom, integrity and courage in their independent judgment in selecting the best qualified and strongest presidential candidate and standing loyal to the best interests of the Democratic Party in winning the general election.
The superdelegates have only one choice for the Democratic presidential nominee that is fair and square with the popular vote: Sen. Clinton, on the unyielding principle of qualifications as the best qualified and the strongest candidate to defeat McCain and win the general election in a landslide victory hands down.
Sen. Clinton is the next president of the United States.
Clinton is lying with statistics again. This is called "confirmation bias" in a course in negotiation. She looks for anything at all she can stretch into her truth even when it really isn't true.
Clinton cannot win the popular vote without Michigan. And as we all know (Yes, Hillary, the American voter is not ignorant as you wish we were), that was not a legitimate contest.
Further, popular vote doesn't matter, only delegates do.
Poor little Hillbill is screaming again and she needs another lollipop......
Al Gore won the popular vote in 2000. George Bush "won" the election. (Thanks Jeb!)
First there was old math, then new math, and now there’s Hillary (popular vote) math.
Funny, I can’t find the keys on my calculator to do the Hillary math?!
I suppose we should be grateful Hillary doesn’t teach calculus?
Hillary, the Queen of Spin and a Legend in Her Own Mind!
http://klintons.com
Perhaps you should mention the tortured logic Clinton must use to support her ridiculous claim of a lead in the popular vote.
Among other things, she's not counting any states that held caucuses instead of primaries. For all the talking she's doing about counting everyone's votes, she certainly seems quite ready to disenfranchise entire states full of voters.
There are liars, and there are damn liars.
And then there's Mrs. Clinton.
GOOD GRIEF!!! Why do all the news accounts forget to add that Clinton got 350,00 votes in Michigan and Obama got none. If Michigan had a valid Primary I'm sure Obama would have gotten a vote or two.
Hillary DOES NOT have the popular vote... unless you don't count caucus votes, states that obama won but dont keep popular tallies, and take credit for votes when only she was the option! Why isnt the author of this clarifying this statement. This is exactly the kind of misleading crap that Bush & Co. pulled. Arent we up with deceit and misinformation already! Jesus- put this issue to pasture already, shes an embarrassment.
Waht Hillary is trying to convey is that she has the most popular votes, as a result she is the most electable candidate and claims her right to be the democratic candidate. The question remains, is she respectful to the rules of the party to which she belongs? No. Because, it is not the popular votes but the specific number of official delegates that decides who will be the candidate of the party. I think, her stubbornness will finally ruin her future political career.
The spoiled little rich girl Clinton can't believe she isn't getting her own way. All 3 Clintons have distorted the truth, or in some cases "miss spoke" the truth.....all things that have worked for them in the past simply is not working with the American People this time around. After 8 years of Clinton in the White House, it is in my estimate, that most people don't want anymore Clinton.
I do wish that reports would stop repeating Hillary Clinton's assertion that she leads in the popular vote as if it were fact. No report should quote her on that without the disclaimer that she is using questionable math--i.e. adding states where she was the only one on the ballot, and failing to mention the uncounted popular vote in caucus states. Whatever happened to journalism that reported all the facts and provided context? It now seems okay to just repeat what candidates say as if it were fact.
Only HRC could use her fuzzy math and have the MSM repeat the faulty numbers.HRC dosn't count popular votes from many Caucus states where Obama blew her away.Just like the Clintons keep repeating the mantra that the won Texas. Let's see..Obama beats Hillary in the texas Caucuses, Obama comes away with more delegates from Texas..then Bill & Hillary tell that they won Texas..Go Figure..
One never knows if Hillary lies, so some independent analysts should count all those votes ( popular votes ) and then we could know if it's true what Clintons claim. If it is the truth, than, although a popular vote doesn't count, it is a significant fact that superdelegates should have in mind.
Why doesn't the media call Mrs. Clinton on the fact that she is manipulating the numbers????
@ crat3 and other HillBill -ies
There is something to be said about the integrity of a process. When all candidates signed up for the race, they were completely aware of the process and its shortcomings. She knew that many state democratic parties hold caucuses instead of primaries. She knew beforehand about the difference between the "popular vote" and "delegate math" and did not complain. In a close race very well possible that one candidate wins the vote and another the delegate race. She would be held in high esteem if she recognized the fact that there is no longer any ethical way in which she can win this race, and if does more to reform the process for the 2012 cycle. Otherwise this is turning out to be a case of a very sore loser!
Is she ahead in popular vote? Outside of her own comments suggesting she is ahead I haven't seen confirmation of that. RealClearPolitics shows that even with FL and MI she is still losing in the popular vote.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html
What is wrong with these people, that they will put into print such a lie? If I had the attention of the people of this country and said that there were purple oranges, would that suggest that they were grapes? I leave it to you!
Hillary would've been better off not acting so desperate. She seems to think she is "entitled" to the nomination. She has already caused a potentially large group of her supporters to protest at the Convention. Which will only turn off many independants and others on the Dem/Rep fence to stay where they are, away from the Dems.
reality check
There is of course no way McBush can win in November no matter what happens.
Hillary, Join the party on June 4th or go home!
crat3 -- how did Obama ruin the votes in Michigan and Florida? Those states knew the rules, chose to proceed as they wouldn't matter to them and are now whining.
Enough already, make it stop!
Like Bush and McCain, Hillary doesn't understand the difference between dignity and indignation; she never did. We don't need another egoist in the White House.
Hillary is the one that can win Nov. People need to look at what the Nov map looks like. Hillary is the one that is winning those states and that can deliver the Pres. in the Fall. More people have voted for her then any other person in any Demcratic primary. One person one vote does matter. It is what this country was founded on.The voters who support obama should listen to the words he just said in his speach in SD. ONE Voice can change the world. One Voice = one vote and Hillary
has the popular vote.
HRC should challenge the DNC Rules Committee decision on Michigan. Not the half-vote thing, both FL and MI should be penalized for their part in this mess. But I don't see how you can give any MI votes to Obama - he did not get any votes. Granted, his name was not on the ballot, but that was his decision. HRC should get 55% of the delegates from MI, each of whom should have a half-vote. Obama should get zero. The other 45% of delegates should remain Uncommitted on the first vote in Denver.
The Florida decisions are totally fair, HRC people should have no complaints there.
The essential problem with any post-hoc rule changes is that they can't account for the way the actors involved--candidates, would-be voters, parties, donors, etc.--would have behaved had the post-hoc rules been in place initially. Changing one variable post-hoc isn’t fair procedurally, and is anti-democratic.
Using a popular vote standard post-hoc is invalid because the system isn’t designed to be a popular-vote system. Were it to be, there wouldn’t be both caucuses and primaries, states would have symmetric rules on non-Party members voting, camping strategies would’ve been different, voter behavior could have differed re; strategic voting, esp. in later states,
Obama wouldn’t have blown-off late states, Hillary wouldn’t have blown off caucus states, etc. It goes on and on.
Both approaches are democratic, but the post-hoc rule changes Is not.
Football and baseball are both determined winners on the basis of mathematical equations relating to the behavior of the teams, but you can’t determine the winners of a football game from the results of a baseball game.
Other violations of principles of democracy for elections of post-hoc rules changes.
Obama would've had his name on the MI ballot.
Both would’ve campaigned in FL and MI.
The public in both states would've been well-informed, contra without voting, particularly for Obama--much less well-known.
Rules need to be established and known in advance.
Far more people would’ve voted in both sates had they known their votes would count.
The will of the people should determine winners. Counting only some of the would-have been votes in MI and FL means the partial votes can’t reflect the ill of the people vis-à-vis the way they would've voted.
1-candidate races are not democratic—they’re the stuff of dictatorships.
As noted Clinton is inconsistent in her attempt to “enfranchise" voters by excluding caucus states while including FL and MI results.
IF FL and MI results are halved as valid, then the popular votes in both state should not be taken at full value, but halved in any—bogus anyways—totals.
Sorry Hillary, you violate hordes of democratic principles, in addition to Democratic rules, with your phony, unprincipled, self-interested claims.
Something is fishy when 80 black districts in new york didnt not cast one vote for a black man but all went to her. Something fishy in ohio where republicans crossed over for one day to vote for hillary. Thats illegel but they got away with it..I am getting where I dont even want hillary and all those other good old boys even anywhere near my govt. They have sold us to the highest bidder and should be kicked to the curb..
So this is what Clinton bases her candidacy on - two primaries where neither candidate showed up to campaign and where her opponent didn't even have his name on the ballot in one! If Clinton wins it will be the greatest political con job ever pulled off in this country.
What this has really shown is the reason why she is not qualified for the job. This is not a person who has the good of the country in mind. This is a person who is pure naked ambition - doing whatever she does for Hillary alone.
Obamatrons don't seem to be aware that when came the offer to the Obama campaign to support a revote in Michigan, Obama's people didn't want any part of it. I wonder why. ;-> Obama looses the popular vote and the polls reflect this fact.
When I vote in November, Hillary will be my written-in selection. Perhaps all of us that want to see Hillary as President should vote this way for her. However, I would much prefer that she run for President on another platform - like independent.
Real Clear Politics has already added up the popular vote for us and ... would you believe... (drum roll please)... Obama has the popular vote!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html
Even when counting the Caucus states, Obama STILL leads in the popular vote.
The only wacky distortion of the math that supports Hillary's argument that she has the lead in the popular vote is by including the popular vote of Michigan: giving Hillary an extra 328,309 popular votes and Obama ZERO. SDs are not that dumb.
To all Hillary supporters. If you vote McCain, Hillary will become a memory. If you vote Obama, I am sure and could rely on it, he will put her in his cabinet. She will still have a voice in how this country is being represented. She will have the opportunity to voice her opinion to a DEM. Republican won't hear her, never the less listen to her. The Republican started this mess, a few months back when they crossed over and voted for her. The Republican started this mess when they change the date in FL. The DEM should have had there own election at the assign time scheduled. However, it would have been more money spent if they took that route. The Republican is laughing at you Hillary supporters because you are doing just what they want you to do. Vote for McCain. The Republicans want to get rid of the name Clinton for life. The Republicans don't like the Clintons. If you read all the notes, blogs, news, and listen to them speak, they really HATE the Clintons. So why Support the Republicans. Is it that you think Hillary will have a shot 4 years later. Well, you can not have false hope. The Clintons, may be in this same situation in 4 years but much worse. Atleast if you support Obama, then you will have a chance to see her again. You won't be hurting the DEM or Obama, but yourself. The Republicans don't care about us. Look at our country now! Look at our finances! Look at the WAR, men/women get killed everyday. I'm sorry, I just don't see the reason why DEMs should be this divided. Its because of the REP.. not Obama, or the DNC.. Just my thoughs, my reasoning, my hope. I too was a Hillary supporter. I have to support the cause not the reason. Going against the DEM party. To be honest you are playing right into there hands. Because they knew, McCain could not win without the DEMOCRATES help. Therefore, if you vote McCain you are helping the republicans. If you are changing your vote because of Hillary not making it as the front runner, then you really need to take a real look at the situation. Are you voting for her because of who she is, and not what she is then you are voting for the wrong reason.
Hillary might be ahead in the popular vote, especially if you add the Martian vote from the last Probe.
Hillary claims that she has the popular vote and Bush claimed that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Is there a difference?
Qualifications for being president: must be able to act with no more maturity than a 5-year old. I understand, when I was 5 I lost a game of monopoly to all my brothers and sisters. You know what I did? I walked over to the game board while the game was still in session and lifted it up so everyones' pieces and money went flying everywhere. I was 5. And I am still a little ashamed 'till this day.
Even if you count the Popular Vote by the way the Clinton campaign wants which says that Obama would have received 0 votes in Michigan but gives her 328,000, they only have a tiny lead:
17,829,358 to 17,684,116 or just 0.004%
Since the campaign is about delegates, how is a virtual tie accomplished by tortured reasoning a valid reason for the Super Delegates to overrule the delegate winner? If the popular vote was overwhelmingly in her favor she might have an argument but this is not compelling by any standard.
Please, news media: When Sen. Clinton says she has the popular vote, I believe you can add and turn on your computers. Please refute her. Don't force us to do your job for you. You can use words to describe her figures such as "imaginary, purported, by her own math" etc. And then show what official figures are indicating such as from RealClearPolitics or a qualified source. You can explain the complexity of Michigan. You don't have to do this, but others will tell you that at least 300,000 of Sen. Clinton's purported vote total came from Operation KAOS voters inspired by Rush Limbaugh to hamper democracy and damage Obama's candidacy. There is plenty to back that up. When it's all over Tuesday, Sen. Obama will lead in the popular vote, states, delegates, and above all integrity and ability to lead this country.
Hillary Clinton is a legend in her own mind.
The Clintonites are using the same "Big Lie" techniques that characterize the Bush administration. To repeat again and again that she has won the popular vote ignoring votes intended for Obama in Michigan and ignoring the caucus states is the Big Lie. They can fool the rabid Hillary feminists and whip up angry crowds of ignorant people but it only proves that Hillary is dishonest and is surrounded by the same class of junkyard dogs that have made the last 8 years a nightmare.
Dear Jean
I can only speak for myself.I am voting for Hillary because she is the best choice.If Hillary does not win . My choice is between two indivuals whom I have strong reservations about. But with McCain I know what I am getting. Obama concerns
me because of several reason. 1) I am not comfortable with how the people he has surrounded himself with act .2) he talks a good game but his words donot
always match his action. For a man who wants a new kind of politics he is probably one of the most skillfull politician of the bunch . His actions come across
very calculating. I think what will tip me one way or the other is should Hillary lose
how Obama treats Her. It is clear to me that the only choice for VP is Hillary. He
should at least offer it to her. I know you think that Hillary voters ,that vote for McCain are playing into Republicans hands. I think this whole nomination was
controlled by the Obama Bias in the media. To see who really hates the Clintons
Just watch Cris Mathews Keith O on MSNBC & Anderson C on CNN.
Hillary ahead in the popular vote??? Talk about fuzzy math! That's without counting a single UNCOMMITTED vote in Michigan but counting all of hers. This metric also doesn't count a bunch of CAUCUS states that Obama won. Her math is geared towards those "non-college" educated, "hard-working white" Americans in Kentucky and West Virginia. That anyone outside her campaign still supports this woman tells me that there are people out there who really need their meds.
There are two candidates left in this race and Obama is ahead in all categories, Obama is ahead in:-
1.Number of states won.
2.Number of pledged delegates.
3.Number of Super delegates.
4.Popular votes.
Hillary has been screaming about counting all the votes.. "All votes must be counted.." She repeatedly said it.
What does she say to people who stayed homes because they were told that their votes will not be counted because of sanctioning of their states?.
These two states,Michigan and Florida were sanctioned by DNC rules prior to start of this race .
Rules were agreed upon by all candidates in advance of this race and that includes Hillary herself.
Hillary does not think that caucus votes are worth counting,because it is not
helping her in her own 'popular vote' math.
Hillary is pushing her fuzzy math,uncontested by the media, as a fact.
I think next week will be a decisive one for Hillary.
If she continues the path of contesting and taking this issue to the Convention..she will look as an 'obstructionist'..and the Clinton's legacy will go nosediving as a result.
Integrity? Honor? Dignity?
Hillary doesn't know the meaning of these words.
Democracy is the one that has more votes won, not this mess between delegates and super, we have to change this, we learned in 2000 what is wrong when we put someone on the presidency that was not what THE PEOPLE want.
There are 50 states not 48 states got that Obamaniac ok left those two out and you're done in November.
Hillary to Obama, "no thank you, I don't want to be your "nigger" "
Clinton's new math is an insult to all Americans. She now claims that even the 2,118 figure does not really mean the end for her because she could get some supers to change their minds before August and she intends to try to get them to.
Two months ago, it seemed sure that she would at least be the next Vice-President. Now the odor from standing next to her will keep all decent folk from keeping company with her, perhaps for all time. There are several other women Senators and Governors and none of them have lied to themselves or to the public. Bizarro. I thought she was a sure thing for VP and now she seems damned by her desire for the bigger prize, and now will get nothing, not even a Supreme Court seat, which seemed hers for the asking just a week before Ohio and Texas.
Look at how a person runs his home life and know that person's character. Or hers.
Hilliary is a woman who clings to a husband who is very often off flying into the blue on a Billionaire's jet that is dubbed (can't write the real words here) Air F___One.... a flying bordella.
That's from a journalist who is married to Dee Dee Myers..Clintons former press secretary.
Why did she spend so much time in Puerto Rico to campaign this weekend?
Does she aspire to be anothe rImelda Marcos?
Why
W
to all barak obama supporters. please listen to all negative barack is hiding from american citizen. he is not a good candidiate. belive me or believe in god. or you will see what will happen
Clinton does not have the popular vote. Just look at the Associate Press article about this Clinton ad (search "AP adwatch Clinton popular vote").
Basically, the only way Clinton et al can claim the popular vote lead is with some very, very fuzzy math.
The popular vote is either close (less than 100k votes either way), largely pro-Obama (about 500k votes more for him) or simply unknown (most likely) at this point.
The one thing that is not uncertain is this: Obama is winning, and is about to clinch the nomination. Likely on Tuesday is correct.
I dont want any good old boys , McCain Clinton, etc. that have gotten us where we are today to even be in our govt. We need to get rid of the good old boys in our govt. or we will continue destroying america. I hope Obama can turn this crap around before its too late. They only way he can even attempt to turn things around is if we stand behind him... I admire him for wanting too..I expect when Bush leaves ,we will find out the extent they have stolen from us...Bet they bankraupted us and gave the media their share...
John and Crat3 and all the Hillary supporters. You should probably think before you speak or write. It is better to stay quiet and feign stupidity than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
1. Florida and Michigan should not have been counted for either candidate because they both agreed on the terms.
2. Obama didn't disenfranchise any voter in Fla or Mich... the Republicans did it so they would have a leg up on the election in November by claiming that dems don't support their voters. It was the Republican houses in these states that set the wheels in motion.
3. Voting for McCain or writing in Hillary or having Hillary run (Ala Lieberman) will accomplish several things... A-Abortion will be illegal in all fifty states because a republican will decide who goes on the supreme court. B-The new American Theocracy... this may sound good to a psycho who may not realize that his church was not the chosen one. C-we'll still be at war. D- Don't be such a crybaby!
4. Fine, if you don't want to count Obama's votes in Mich then we shouldn't count Hillary's vote there either. You might remember back then that everyone who voted uncommitted in the elction did so because they did NOT want Hillary as the democratic nominee and the only other viable candidate at the time was Obama.
5. Being first lady for eight years does not count as experience unless you need to find the "Dish Room" in the WH. And as far as experience is concerned I would say that Hillary taking $800,000.00 from the healthcare industry to STOP fighting for universal healthcare is not the kind of experience I care to have. Neither the 10 million she took from Saudi Arabia for her and Bill's foundation. And while I'm at it, Hillary is NOT Bill and if you think she's gonna let him run things then you're drinking outta the same kool-aide that McCain supporters are.
6. Not showing up to vote in November to protest makes you a Republican... How? you ask. Because if your democratic vote doesn't show up that means you didn't cancel out that Republican vote which means it's the same as voting republican. In other words... "Complacency equals one Republican vote!" DON'T BE STUPID!!! If Hillary ended up being the candidate I would NEVER stay home and hand this to the republicans.
7. Did I also mention.... DON'T BE SO EFFING STUPID! WHAT ARE YOU, 5?
Hillary says that no voters should be disenfranchised right? Yet, she is willing to blatantly disenfranchise "Obama" voters in Michigan, Washington, Maine, NV and Iowa because they fit the Hillary math model. Ironically, this is exactly the reason so many people feel so strongly against her. The fact that her and her supporters are willing to discount votes that do not belong to them while, at the same time saying that every vote should count is pure blind hypocrisy.
Hillary and her people voted to punish Florida and Michigan and changed her tune after she started losing? Do you know that Hillary also supported the Texas rules and voted for the Nevada rules before changing her tune?
beforeshe saw the
It's unfortunate that Clinton has planted so much misinformation in the media that her supporters, both informed and uniformed are echoing her misleading refrains in a way that may affect very adversely the November election providing a disastrous result for the democratic party and most Americans. This will affect all but Clinton and others within the top 5% of the richest Americans, in the most adverse manner. She and her supporters continue to rant about Obama gaming the system or conducting some form of nefarious campaign to not have the Florida and Michigan votes counted. EXCUSE ME!! The major difference between Obama and Clinton is that HE followed the rules, the same rules that Clinton BEFORE Super Tuesday was MORE than glad to follow, particularly when she felt it would be to her advantage. She did not begin this underhanded campaign to have the Florichigan votes counted until she was falling hopelessly behind after Obama's 11 state winning streak.
Changing the rules that Clinton not only supported but her campaign chairman, Terry McAuliffe, helped to create in 2004 and vigorously defended, is one of the most disingenuous acts I've seen in politics except for Bush's stealing of the last two elections. In 2004 McAuliffe when, as the head of the very rules commitee that created these rules governing Mi and Fla, stated that "to change these rules would create chaos". Now because Obama has been willing to compromise on allowing Clinton to change these very same rules (to her advantage) by allowing her to get half the votes when in fact she was supposed to get NONE and 1/2 the votes in an election in which his name wasn't even on the ballot, he is now being accused of doing something unfair.
Next on the popular vote, those Clinton supporters who keep harping on Clinton allegedly winning the popular vote as a basis for her being VP or just out of sour grapes don't give a darn about how this may adversely affect the chances of THE dem mominee. Those individuals who say they supposedly are so concerned about "counting every vote" regarding Florichigan are willing to completely negate the voters in the caucus states which Obama overwhelmingly won but Clinton has persisted in ignoring in her calculation supporting her winning the popular vote. Clinton AND her supporters also ignore not only Rush Limbaughs operation chaos which encouraged republicans to vote for Clinton as a means of defeating Obama because he was seen as harder to beat, but also the voters who were voting more against Obama and not FOR her. Many of these voters would probably not have voted for Clinton in the general election anyway.
If we are going to elect a woman to the presidency, let us do it because she EARNED it and NOT just because she is a woman. I have heard so many say it's about time we had a woman in the presidency but far less support their argument for Clinton based on her superior policies to Obama. What kiind of example would it be to young women in the U.S. if she were elected on the basis of anything less.
Blacks are accused of supporting Obama because he is black. Nothing could be further from the truth. At the beginning of the primary season, most blacks supported Clinton and Obama found himself in the position of having to prove he was "blacker than Bill Clinton". It was both Clintons, Bill and Hiallary's subtle and not so subtle race bating comments, that caused blacks to abandon them en mass. If blacks voted for people because they were black, then Shirley Chisolm, Dick Gregory, Alan Keyes, and Al Sharpton, all black presidential candidates over the last 50 years, would have recieved most of the black votes, which they did not or come close to getting.
For those who say Clinton should have been elected because Obama is an elitist (Clinton's description of Obama) and that Hillary is for the people, they should do a Google search by entering the words "Hillary Clinton and free trade" or "Hillary Clinton and outsourcing" or "Hillary's nasty pastorate" and you would see just how much for the people she is.
For those who say that Obama should or is obligated to make Clinton his running mate, let's see, she has endorsed his republican opponent as being more qualtified than Obama. Her husband has publicly endorsed McCain as caring more for this country than Obama. She has referred to him with shame (both taped statements are already being used against Obama by the opposition) she has inferred that he has cheated, used unfair practices, falsely accused him of trying to force her out of the race. She's publicly and falsely stated that he has been sexist toward her campaign. Her campaign has introduced material showing Obama to look like a Moslem AND she has stated the only reason she has remained in the campaign is because, "well you know Robert Kennedy was assasinated" . Oh yeah, that's someone I want in the postiton of being one bullet from the presidency. Get a clue!!!
Clinton supporters,should follow the lead of their candidate and take a strong dose of integrity and wash it down with their false pride (and do some REAL research) and back off and help win the November election and stop impeding the progress of the Democratic nominee ,Obama, by persisting in malciously trying to disparage his victory. They exceed any possible perception of selfishness imaginable, so much so that it may possilby come back and bite them in the you know what in November. Obama won by running a superior campaign and following the rules. To compare Obama's win and campaign to George Bush's illegal and immoral campaigns is beyond despicable. If roles were reversed and Obama supporters were conducting themselves in ths same immature manner they would be eviscerated in the public and in the media. Obama would, as he has consistently done, decry and denounce such practices, unlike Clinton. Clearly though, Clinton supporters are setting a sadly unfortunate example for youth and future voters of this nation by exhibiting the worst example of sore losers I have ever seen in politics. I'm hoping we can all overcome this partisan bickering and look at the bigger picture and move on. I am not Clinton bashing. These are facts supporting a change in tactics by those who are not willing to let go and move on.
personly I think hillary clinton stunk. and i also think she got inthe race was because her husband no longer can give extar income tax .and it was not going to be easy running a gunste to guys they both are cute and sicen most of the world is mostly black people of coure they going to pick there own race.
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