More signs of Democratic unity

ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF MSM AND POLITITIONS PUTTING THE HOURSE BEFORE THE CART!

THE DELIGATES HAVE UNTIL FRI TO VOTE!

BARACK HUSSAIN OBAMA CONTINUES TO BE THREAT TO NATIONAL MATURITY!

OUR ONLY HOPE IS A HILLARY V.P.

WE WILL NOT FORGET OR FORGIVE! BYE DEMCRATIC PARTY..HELLO MCCAIN

THIS IS WHAT YOU CREATED SO LIVBE WITH IT NOW.WE WIL NOT STAY IN A PARTY WHO TAKES ONE OF THEIR OWN OUT BY THE MEDIA-OBAMA CAMP-PRESS- AND OUR OWN OPPS! X- DEMOCRATIC PARTY LEADERS.AND YOU CALL YOURSELVE A DEMOCRATIC THAT WE CAN AND WE CAN DO ANYTHING.YES DOONA THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID"AND THAT WE CAN BUILD BARCK OBAMA UP TO BE THE NOMMIEE-WELL GOOD BYE NOT COMING BACK.AND DON'T SAY WE WILL KISS AND MAKE UP.WE HAD IT! WE WILL NOT COME AROUND TO THE MOST UINGLYEST PARTY WHO TOOK THEIR OWN OUT! HILLARY WE LOVE YOU BUT WE CAN'T COME AROUND TO PLAY THEIR GAMES WHAT THEY DID TO YOU IS WRONG AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO FORGIVE OR FORGAET CAUSE WE WILL NOT HAVE THEM USE YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORTERS CAUSE WE WILL NOW GO TO MCCAIN.IT WON'T WORK..WE WILL MNOT BE HIJACKED OR USED ANYMORE BY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHO PUT THIS ON THEIR OWN BACKS-NOT THE PEOPLE-NOT YOU SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON. OUR OWN PARTY LEADERS DID THIS AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE OBAMA SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS.

Dear DNC,

You will never get any money from me. Ever.

How dare the Rules and Bylaws Committee STEAL delegates from Hillary Clinton and give them to Barack Obama? Not only is this arbitrary, unethical, contrary to common sense, and against the charter of the Democratic Party itself, it’s also just plain wrong. At the meeting Donna Brazile made a big point of saying that her mama said changing the rules was cheating. Well, the rules don’t call for stripping delegates from one candidate and giving them to someone else. My mama told me stealing was wrong.

I am a strong supporter of Hillary Clinton and I will never vote for Barack Obama. I have always been a Democrat, but no more. I reject the party. I will not be part of such a vile, sexist, vote-rigging party. From now on I am an Independent. My threat to never give money to the DNC is not an idle one. Previous to today I had donated $1100 to Hillary Clinton this year. This evening I offered to match donations to Hillary Clinton from readers of the blog TaylorMarsh.com. As a result, 34 people donated a total of $1184 dollars in 5 hours. That’s in just a few hours on one website.

Senator Clinton’s support is strong. We are not giving up, and neither is she, no matter how hard you try to tip the scales in Obama’s favor. Stealing is stealing.

Change We Can Believe In?

I am still waiting for someone to explain to me why Barack Obama represents “change” and “hope” for a new future. The White House is currently occupied by an inexperienced man–a nice man–of limited accomplishment who used cocaine as a young adult. And the best answer the Democrats now offer is an inexperienced man who used cocaine as a young adult? That is change?

There is no denying that Barack gives a better speech than Bush. But running a snappy, happy campaign is different than the task of governing. Figuring out who should be the lead Federal agency for dealing with terrorism is not the same as rallying folks to attend a caucus. If that was the case then I would jump on the Barack bandwagon. Let’s face the facts–Barack is Jimmy Carter but not as smart.

Like Carter, Barack offers hope. But here he diverges.
Tale of the Maps

Over at HillBuzz are some very interesting Electoral College maps. These maps show that in a matchup between Senator Clinton and Senator McCain, Hillary comes out the winner, with, notably, Ohio, West Virginia, Arkansas and Florida in her column, and with Vermont as a toss-up. Obama loses all these states in a match-up with McCain.

Toss-ups under McCain/Clinton include Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, New Mexico, Michigan and Vermont, with Minnesota the only one going to Obama if he is the nominee.

Toss-ups under McCain/Obama include North Dakota, Nebraska, Colorado, New Mexico, Michigan, Ohio and Virginia, with Ohio breaking for Clinton if she is the nominee.

Basically, Hillary still beats McCain and Obama still loses to McCain. She is still the stronger GE candidate in the fall.

Delicious Dissent

Amid all the calls for party unity from the same folks that brought you a very undemocratic solution to Michigan and Florida, a new voice is beginning to be spoken. Loudly. And from many directions.

HILLARY TAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO DENVER.

To answer:
UPDATE: Blair Latoff, a Republican National Committee spokeswoman, said Rangel and other Democrats "in New York and across the country are attempting to put the best face on a primary that has radically divided their party. No amount of lip service can disguise the very real questions Democrats have raised about Barack Obama’s candidacy or the very real reluctance many Democrat voters have about supporting their party’s nominee." You are PAID to say this.

I may not be the seasoned Washington insider Blair Latoff is but I do know how to read, write, add and subtract. In a PRIMARY the choice is between two members of the same political family and everyone takes sides. However at the end of the date the values, goals and issues are shared not different.

Never going to be any unity as long as Hillary is ont on ticket, Democrats just don't get it. I am switing to independent and voting for McCain, never Obama, he stole the nomination. He didn't get popular vote and primaries are true pictures od how people will vote. GO MC CAIN

They finally appointed a new captain of the Titanic.. This will be interesting

Obama will be lucky to win 10 states in the general election. He has the same problem all liberal Dems have running for president - he can't truthfully talk about his tax and spend economics or his plan for defeat in the Middle East and expect to win a race for dog catcher.

Howard Dean is such a moron that he couldn't organize two ants at the same picnic. This whole campaign has been extremely divisive. If one doesn't vote for Barack, they become a racist. If one doesn't vote for Hillary they become a sexist. If the DNC doesn't fire Howard Dean they must be stupid. I guess that makes me a stupidist for not supporting Howard Dean.

Heard on the news three days ago, over the past 15 years, while "Rev." Wright has been spewing his hate-filled, racist, anti-American, anti-white speeches, and Obama has been "not-hearing" any of that, their "church", which recently gave a Lifetime Achievement award to Louis Farrakhan, has quietly been the recipient of $15,000,000 of our tax dollars! They are probably still getting it!

How'd they arrange to get that much of our tax money, who set that up, do you think? Separation of church and state? Has that been repealed? Do you think anybody should ask Obama if he had anything to do with getting that "church" this money? If he didn't, who did? Shouldn't we know?

Barack Obama would not be where he is today if it were not for Rezko and don't forget it.

I am extremley gratful to Senator Hillary Clinton for having run an effective campaign, and waited in respect of the 18 million people who voted for her, before officially endorsing our next President of the United States, Senator Barack Obama.
If Senator Clinton ran in 2000 instead of Al Gore, she would have stood her ground and prevented eight years of disaster with the Bush crowd. Al; Gore was too quick to roll over and play dead. So was John Kerry. It is their fault that we have to suffer thru this administration. With Hillary's support for Barack, we can look forward to a prosperous and peaceful America.

Barack won a very hard fought race and tiem will heal the mere flesh wounds as Monty Python would say. the party picked the best candidate to win in November and it may even enjoy a Landslied victory. The primary run made Barack Obama tougher and more prepared to take on Senator Mc Same.

No worries

The Republicans are clutching at straws here and hope that no one notices how divided THEY are.

If you want to see the Republican split some time, ask McCain if the Bush administration ever mislead him about the war (and feel free to play the clip of him saying that we'd be "welcomed as liberators in Iraq" if he says no).

Or ask him why he only figured out that our response to Hurricane Katrina was bad a few months ago, but didn't criticize Bush at the time? The man doesn't know if he's actually a Republican or not and the answer changes depending on who asks.

Lets give Senator Clinton some time. Afterall its tough getting the "taste of the most humiliating defeat ever" out of her mouth.

Ladies, when Senator Clinton is done with her grieveing process, its incumbent on all of you to get down and kiss the toe of the man who "kicked your A _ _", and get this party started.

Hard too believe that any candidate could lose given this sort of party philosophy?

And lets not forget the significant role that DNC leaders played in this fiasco!

Imagine if Senator Clinton chose to run as an independent?

Does anyone else not fear that if Hillary is the VP that Obama's days are numbered? I mean, it's not like people in her way or that could implicate her in the past have just died of "suicides" or anything...

I fear for Barack Obama's safety if Hillary is his VP. Hopefully, he's smart enough to realize that himself and will make her a secretary in his cabinet, or something instead of next in line.

There are so many idiots out there that don't seem to understand that as Dems main goal is to stop the war. Those who vote for threaten to vote for McCain should just walk to the next recruitment station and volunteer or send their children to die for the civil war in Iraq. This year isn't about Hillary or Obama, it is about stopping the war and the GOP. There are virtually little differences between the two Dems except that Clinton voted for war and was never able to recover from that. Lets join together and stop the war and improve healthcare. McCain is going in the opposite direction, can you live with that? Talk about the issues not the personalities.

"No amount of lip service can disguise the very real questions Democrats have raised about Barack Obama’s candidacy or the very real reluctance many Democrat voters have about supporting their party’s nominee."

Just as no amount of lip service can disguise McCains flip flop politics and pretend he's a real conservative. Let the games begin my friends.

Don't you just love seeing a bunch of political hacks putting a gun to a woman's head after she won the popular vote so they can have what they want? The voters be damned? Maybe this week. But come November, men behaving badly will not be rewarded.

It is 3:00 am and Hillary gets a phone call; Obama has reached the magic number of delegates to win the party nomination the voice on the other end proclaims. What will you do now?

It is 3:00 am days later and still there is no action from Hillary!?

Hillary, the Queen of Spin and a Legend in Her Own Mind!

http://klintons.com

Right on.

Party unity? What is party? Bunch of Washington insiders debating about Michigan delegates OFF CAMERA or over 17 million that were outraged by it? Welcome to general election. Delegates don't mean sh!t.

Wow, there are some serious Hillary supporting nutjobs on here. I'd love to see how any Hillary supporter who votes for McCain will feel when he appoints more conservative judges to the Supreme Court and has Roe vs. Wade overturned.

"This has been a hard fought race and there have been bitter disagreements along the way but the time for disagreements has ended."

Aren't we tired of this kind of talk? Please state on which occasions Obama and Hillary had "bitter disagreements" between themselves.

Don't you people understand what's been happening here? The Repugs knew Hillary had a better chance against a Republican. Why do you think the media always came out with/daily sold us so much dirt?

Now the Repugs are thrilled to death because they think it'll be so much easier to beat Obama.

Well, if you believed in Democratic values before, as Hillary obviously does, it's time to stand up to the manipulative obnoxious Repugs. All you people who supposedly say you'll vote for McSame instead of Barack Obama are being just as hateful as they've been. On your part, however, you're also being incredibly foolish and naive -- not to say stupid or anything like that. Ever heard of biting off your nose to spite your face?

Wake up people!

Democratic Unity - what a joke. Have you read the blogs?? Hillary supporters are staying home or voting McCain. You counted our votes by half in FL and you won't even be able to that in Nomember. ZERO is what you'll get.

WE WILL NOT FORGET OR FORGIVE! BYE DEMCRATIC PARTY..HELLO MCCAIN

THIS IS WHAT YOU CREATED SO LIVBE WITH IT NOW.WE WIL NOT STAY IN A PARTY WHO TAKES ONE OF THEIR OWN OUT BY THE MEDIA-OBAMA CAMP-PRESS- AND OUR OWN OPPS! X- DEMOCRATIC PARTY LEADERS.AND YOU CALL YOURSELVE A DEMOCRATIC THAT WE CAN AND WE CAN DO ANYTHING.YES DOONA THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID"AND THAT WE CAN BUILD BARCK OBAMA UP TO BE THE NOMMIEE-WELL GOOD BYE NOT COMING BACK.AND DON'T SAY WE WILL KISS AND MAKE UP.WE HAD IT! WE WILL NOT COME AROUND TO THE MOST UINGLYEST PARTY WHO TOOK THEIR OWN OUT! HILLARY WE LOVE YOU BUT WE CAN'T COME AROUND TO PLAY THEIR GAMES WHAT THEY DID TO YOU IS WRONG AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO FORGIVE OR FORGAET CAUSE WE WILL NOT HAVE THEM USE YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORTERS CAUSE WE WILL NOW GO TO MCCAIN.IT WON'T WORK..WE WILL MNOT BE HIJACKED OR USED ANYMORE BY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHO PUT THIS ON THEIR OWN BACKS-NOT THE PEOPLE-NOT YOU SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON. OUR OWN PARTY LEADERS DID THIS AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE OBAMA SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS.

Dear DNC,

You will never get any money from me. Ever.

How dare the Rules and Bylaws Committee STEAL delegates from Hillary Clinton and give them to Barack Obama? Not only is this arbitrary, unethical, contrary to common sense, and against the charter of the Democratic Party itself, it’s also just plain wrong. At the meeting Donna Brazile made a big point of saying that her mama said changing the rules was cheating. Well, the rules don’t call for stripping delegates from one candidate and giving them to someone else. My mama told me stealing was wrong.

I am a strong supporter of Hillary Clinton and I will never vote for Barack Obama. I have always been a Democrat, but no more. I reject the party. I will not be part of such a vile, sexist, vote-rigging party. From now on I am an Independent. My threat to never give money to the DNC is not an idle one. Previous to today I had donated $1100 to Hillary Clinton this year. This evening I offered to match donations to Hillary Clinton from readers of the blog TaylorMarsh.com. As a result, 34 people donated a total of $1184 dollars in 5 hours. That’s in just a few hours on one website.

Senator Clinton’s support is strong. We are not giving up, and neither is she, no matter how hard you try to tip the scales in Obama’s favor. Stealing is stealing.

Change We Can Believe In?

I am still waiting for someone to explain to me why Barack Obama represents “change” and “hope” for a new future. The White House is currently occupied by an inexperienced man–a nice man–of limited accomplishment who used cocaine as a young adult. And the best answer the Democrats now offer is an inexperienced man who used cocaine as a young adult? That is change?

There is no denying that Barack gives a better speech than Bush. But running a snappy, happy campaign is different than the task of governing. Figuring out who should be the lead Federal agency for dealing with terrorism is not the same as rallying folks to attend a caucus. If that was the case then I would jump on the Barack bandwagon. Let’s face the facts–Barack is Jimmy Carter but not as smart.

Like Carter, Barack offers hope. But here he diverges.
Tale of the Maps

Over at HillBuzz are some very interesting Electoral College maps. These maps show that in a matchup between Senator Clinton and Senator McCain, Hillary comes out the winner, with, notably, Ohio, West Virginia, Arkansas and Florida in her column, and with Vermont as a toss-up. Obama loses all these states in a match-up with McCain.

Toss-ups under McCain/Clinton include Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, New Mexico, Michigan and Vermont, with Minnesota the only one going to Obama if he is the nominee.

Toss-ups under McCain/Obama include North Dakota, Nebraska, Colorado, New Mexico, Michigan, Ohio and Virginia, with Ohio breaking for Clinton if she is the nominee.

Basically, Hillary still beats McCain and Obama still loses to McCain. She is still the stronger GE candidate in the fall.

Delicious Dissent

Amid all the calls for party unity from the same folks that brought you a very undemocratic solution to Michigan and Florida, a new voice is beginning to be spoken. Loudly. And from many directions.

HILLARY TAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO DENVER.

The only way I would vote for Obama is if Senator Clinton is on the ticket if not... Hello McCain.

If Obama wins in November it will be without my vote. I am reliquishing my membership to the DMC

are all the commenters on this blog idiots or just the hillary nuts?

Get over it Obama haters!
I voted for Hillary but as a responsible democrat, I will stand by Obama.
So what if he has a funny Name. Bush has a funny face! Lets not forget that he also did cocaine but his rich daddy covered it up.
If anyone is happy with another Bush term by all means vote for that old man!
Get ready America, the democrats will prevail!
And for all you racist people, I am soooo sorry that we are not going to have another white man kill innocent children for oil!

Face it...All of the college educated people in America want Obama to win...

Fortunately, I'm also college educated and I'm not retarded, so I'm voting Obama.

What a bunch of sore loser liars we see posting here; ditto head neo-cons I suspect...

A few of you need to get in touch with reality.

Madison, the delegates you so desperately want given to Hillary...?
Four. Four measly delegates. Obama beat her by over a hundred and twenty ELECTED delegates. and over two hundred TOTAL delegates.

Four delegates won't get Hillary the nomination. It's over.
She lost the elected delegate race in addition to the superdelegates, and she lost the popular vote.

HILLARY LOST. Get over it.

What a group- Obama, Hillary and McLame. The choice is give away the country or 4 more years of Bush. Is this the best America has to offer?? If so, God help us all.

Be careful Democrats!

Lot of Republicans are posing as Clinton supporters, they are trying to use this emotional time for Clinton fans as a tool to for McCain win. I am proud of Hillary for what she has done, but I am not dumb to fall for these republican operatives.

The only way I would vote for Obama is if Senator Clinton is on the ticket if not... Hello McCain.

So a democrat will vote for Hilary but no Obama.Let face it and be real and honest.Any democrats that will switch to and vote republican is doing so because of politics.The race war never ends.They rather see a woman in office before seeing a educated inteigent black man there.

Goodbye 2008! Hillary was our voice - our future. Now we have this numbskull who will blow it and lose to McCain. I voted Hillary and hope she leaves the door open and does not remove herself completely. I hope the supers vote for Hillary. Every super of a state should vote what their State voted - period.

Obviously, what Hillary NEEDS to do is admit she is lying and stretching the truth when she says she won the popular vote.
The only way she wins the popular vote is if she honestly believes NO ONE in Michigan wanted to vote for Obama which everyone KNOWS is not true.
As long as she keeps SAYING she won the popular vote, her supporters continue to believe it because the truth is too painful to them - their motto is "don't confuse me with the FACTS"
And don't say "Obama willingly took his name off the ballot so it's HIS fault" - HE was playing by the rules set by the party - TERRIBLE rules, I grant you - but they were the rules nonetheless.

Michigan was told their votes would not count -but by NOT counting Obama's supporters is Hillary agreeing to disregard and disenfranchise the hundreds of thousands of people she keeps saying she does NOT want to do this to.
When she says "every vote counts", she need to mean it, and needs to look at REALITY.

Glad to see you people finally got it together, really thought the party was going to screw up and lose the election. No doubt in my mind the party picked the best candidate. Am sure know we will have a Democrat in the White House in 2009.

I'm not trying to fuel any fire but those of you who are planning on voting for McCain just because Clinton is not the nominee are just setting us all (the United States of America) up for further disaster. You are only giving those die hard republicans exactly what they want!!!! I guess you all must be living the "high" life from reaping all the benefits this current corrupt administration as put forth.

HRC did NOT win the popular vote. That is total spin. You can't seriously include Michigan where she was the only one on the ballot, can you, let alone Florida? The so-called popular vote does not take into account caucus states, which are not based on large numbers like primary states. So bizarre, the vitriol and willingness to cut off one's nose to spite one's face because your primary candidate did not win. So, now you don't believe in the Democratic platform or Democratic issues? Why some of you registered Democrats? This isn't a sports match.

Good! Get to have another FOUR YEARS of Bush's failed economic policies and a war that will last for the next hundred years ...THAT'S WHY I WILL NOT VOTE FOR Mr. Obama.! I LOVE MY PAIN!-GO, McCAIN!(Oh-h-RAH).

@Mandelay & MANY others-
Hillary's claim to the popular vote comes from three FACTS- each of which bring into question the validity of such a claim.
1. Voters in caucus states that Barack Obama heavily won DO NOT count towards the popular vote you are quoting. 2. Puerto Rico, which can't even vote in the Presidential election, DOES count in your popular vote. 3. Michigan, which knowingly violated party rules and where Barack Obama was not on the ballot, DOES count towards your popular vote, but only for Hillary. The 40% in MI who voted undeclared, however, DO NOT count for Obama. We should leave this kind of questionable accounting to Republicans.

Sad to see so many idiots willing to shoot themselves in the foot, and hand the presidency to McCain. Tell me, when Hillary comes out and endorses Obama, campaigns on his behalf, and asks her supporters to guarantee a Democratic win in November, are you just going to turn your back on your candidate's wishes? After the past year, her words will mean so little to you that you'll guarantee a third Bush term?

Grow up, and get over it.

I am appalled that the American people would be so blind as to vote for a man that could not recite the pledge of allegiance and did not place his hand on his heart while others saw fit to honor their flag. Names, sex, skin color and church affiliation are secondary considerations to an American running for president in 2008. What is very important is example. In these troubled times I want to see a president that represents the pride of average American people, and I do not see that in Senator Obama. i only see smugness, not the humility of a public servant. Senator Clinton can slug down a beer next to us or put on the gloves to protect us, that is what Democratic candidates used to do. Republicans were the fancy elitists. I feel the Democratic party that I grew up believing in, has messed this election up badly by not listening to the populace of this country. I will vote for McCain, because it is a vote against Barak Obama. I am considering changing to Independent after 44yrs.

VP's don't do ANYTHING CHIEF!

Let's we Democrats united and go to the final goal. The goal will be to fix many many things.
1. Economy
2. War
3. Balancing the house budget
3. Education
4. Health Care
It will take a lot years to clean up Bush's mess.

There is no question that Obama will be a President. I wish that Hilary is working with him as VP.

Wow, I think most of these pro-Clinton posts are all from the same person...at least that's what it seems.

So Clinton lost. Big deal. If you're so animate about voting for Clinton, then get pissed when she loses the nomination and say you're voting for McCain, then aren't you doing yourself a disservice by voting for the people who are completely against your interests. What's the point in that? It's safe to say that Obama and Clinton want the same things - healthcare for all, end the war, blah blah blah. So being pissed that a woman didn't get the nomination and refusing to vote for the black guy is just silly (and somewhat racist, but I'm not going to talk about that).

Hillary's supporters are just like her. I guess that's why they cling to her like glue - they don't trust anyone except their own, and refuse to take no for an answer.

I voted for Bush in 2004, and consider myself quite right-leaning (I'm a Libertarian, but registered Independent). But I believe Barack Obama will be the answer this nation needs, and I have extreme confidence that he will win in November. Luckily, the majority of Americans aren't as stubborn as Hillary supporters.

It's saddening to see the effects of the campaign propaganda borne out in the hateful comments listed above. I can understand how someone can passionately support a candidate, to be sure.

But please understand that a great deal of what you are saying, such as "stealing votes", "sexism", etc. are a direct repetition the talking points of the Clinton campaign, or in other words their advertising drive. These were attempts to exaggerate certain points in order to win votes, nothing more, nothing less.

I doubt Hillary or Terry McAuliffe, her enthusiastic campaign manager, would want you to continue to repeat these things now. That game is over, and they know that they lost and that it is time to move forward.

There is a lot of time until November, so please take the time to think this over, and vote with your own interests and the interests of the country in mind. A vote for Obama is not only a vote for him personally, but a vote for the Democratic team with everyone else who is involved. It is a vote for our future Supreme Court. It is a vote for health care and a vote to get out of Iraq. And yes, it is a vote for Hillary Clinton as well.

Right on Derek. This looks like a Republican chat room with so many old ladies gossiping about who said or did what. Hello America? We are in need of intelligent leadership, not the second coming of Christ, fer Christ's sake.

Google news brought me to this site, and I must say, I'm very disappointed at how closed-minded some of the Boston bloggers are! I expected better of you. I don't like to take sides, so I'll just make a few corrections:

1. For the last time, Hillary did *not* with the popular vote. She was on the ballot in Michigan; Barack wasn't. Even so, 40% voted for "uncommitted". That's obviously a vote for Barack yet you want to ignore that.

2. There's no law-breaking here by giving MI/FL a half-vote each. This is a primary, not an election. Anyways, the states broke the rules and they need to be penalized. If they're not, it will be mass mayhem in the future with states trumping each other to go first - what a nightmare.

3. HIllary does *NOT* necessarily do better than Obama in a McCain match up. If you say that, you are choosing the polls that suit your opinions. Some polls show Hillary better, some Barack better. The majority show Obama winning, which is why people putting money on the race are betting on Obama! (http://odds.bestbetting.com/specials/politics/usa/president

Hey "Madison", give it up already it's getting old...geez...stop the childish rhetoric..
time to unite. I don't care if it's Obama or Hillary or even Donald
Duck on the Democratic ballot in November just vote for the Big "D" come election time. Can't do any worse than what we got in the White House now !

Hillary needs to get over it. She tried her very best to be the Demoncratic Nomination. She even stooped so low as to try and smear Senator Obama.
Now she's willing to run with him as Vice President. Ask yourself if it was the other way around, if she had won the nomination would she ask Obama to be her Vice President (I dont think so). She needs just get over it and take her rightfull place back in New York.

Hillary people (as read above) are crazy. Crazy not in thier support of thier candidate, but crazy in thier ability to frankly distort facts and then believe them. Hillary actually states that she won the popular vote? Only if you ignore the feelings and intentions of many states - no one outside of her fanatics believes it. Who else is capable of that of that level of distortion and denial? Only George W Bush people - and you see where that got us. We need a rational, sane candidate - Hillary is NOT that, and the majority of the country knows it, but just like having an insane person in your house, you try not to point it out to them generally because it doesn't work. . Thats fine, but I and many other people do not want that crazy having any power whatsoever.

No we won't settle with 1/2 a vote. Sweetie.
There is party who will count our whole vote.-
Ex life long Florida Democrat 4 MCCain.

So sad for America. Isn't there anyone more qualified than an inexperience senator who can only delivered pre-written speeches?

I hope a miracle happens.

It just may be another 4? 8? more years of Bush.

Personally I like Hillary and am a supporter. But I am fair. I don't see how anyone can say that delegates were stolen from Hillary. If I were on the committee none of the delegates would count because they broke the rules. She agreed to those rules. It is not anything against the people of those states. But be honest, why do we have rules? To establish order. You can't please all of the people any time. That's like having a basketball ball game and your best player gets 6 fouls and is to be put out of the game. But now you want to change the rules. It does not work in basketball and it shouldn't work in the political arena. But the committee was gracious and tried to please all the people and ending up with people still not satified.

No we won't settle with 1/2 a vote. Sweetie.
There is party who will count our whole vote.-
Ex life long Florida Democrat 4 MCCain.

oh please - the number of Republicans posting as disenchanted Dems is getting ridiculous - PLEASE! You losers are fooling nobody - 'i'll never vot for obama, fight on hillary!' yeah, right - Face it, your party, the Republiboobs are going DOWN in November - yes, you're going to have a black guy as president, and a Democratic majority in Congress - Bush, Rove, Cheney, blew it royally and now the Dems are back in control - cry and accept it.

paul s.

After Hillary questioning his electibility, after the thinly veiled slurs she's thrown at him, after skewering him, after repeatedly taking the low road, she now wants to be the Vice-President?
She is delusional. And so are her followers. The nomination process is over. She lost. Not because she is a woman, but because someone else ran a better campaign.
We have to be adults and stop acting like children who whine because that is how we have been taught to get our way.
The Vice-President will be a white male. That much I do know.

Wow, you all need to grow up and be adults! We have a democratic process for a reason and Hillary didn't lose the nomination, OBAMA WON IT. I would certainly hope that true democrats can look beyond the individual prejudices and do what is right for the party and our country. All of your comments about voting for McCain, please go ahead and do so - just don't whine and complain when you get four more years of the same and our country is in worst shape then it is now. Yes, I am a Barack supporter, once a Hillary supporter at the beginning, but I certainly wouldn't make such a childish and ignorant statement of voting to put another Republican in the White House if Hillary had WON the nomination. Again, grow up, be adults and a part of the solution, not a part of the problem.

Just when you thought the Democrats couldn't lose, they pull a Howard Dean and give the Republicans a fighting chance.

You people have so much acid and bile in your souls. You have bought Hillary's divisive campaign nonsense hook line and sinker because it reinforces your own insecurities and need to fight.

Calm down. No one stole anything. We all voted, and according to rules that our party set in place long before anything was disputed, the process gave us a nominee.

Do you actually want good government, or do you just enjoy contentious whining?

Maybe John McCain can improve as a candidate but Tuesday night was a deer in the headlights performance. Also McCain's message of change seems to reinforce how important Obama's message really is.

Obama is a reformer, McCain is a soldier. McCain looks silly being what he is not.

political maturity, hahahah

I'm sick an tired of you "Scorched Earth" fanatics. You never were interested in making any changes to the type of Government we have. You jerks DESERVE John McCain, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney because you have allowed yourselves to become part of their legacy. If that's your attitude then you deserve no affordable/decent healthcare, tax relief, product safety, justice, to be free from goverment spying, corporate corruption and greed and you can take credit for the newest legacy we have:waterboarding. Senator Clinton talked about the people she met along the way who were suffering. You and those who share your feelings obviously don't care about THOSE people do you? Who are you going to bitch and complain to if she doesn win in 2012?.....Well you can always sellout (again) to McCain again.

well if i were Hillary i would not back obama.i would tell the Democratic party to go to hell.after the way they done her. i would go independet and have my name still on the ticket. and my voters could still vote for me .at least this why he could not still votes away from me again.for no reason could i vote for a man like that.if yall think we have problems now hold on and see what were going to face with this man.god help all of us.

well if i were Hillary i would not back obama.i would tell the Democratic party to go to hell.after the way they done her. i would go independet and have my name still on the ticket. and my voters could still vote for me .at least this why he could not still votes away from me again.for no reason could i vote for a man like that.if yall think we have problems now hold on and see what were going to face with this man.god help all of us.

From what I can tell, it seems that Hillary's support was mostly made up of people who send me emails about some money they need to send me from Nigeria. Is that you, John Boko?

Get over it!
Obama is as American as the Smith that immigrated from England ~250 years ago. And perhaps the Gonzalez are the classical American since they have genes from the pre-Columbian pople. And all of them were immigrants at one point. Stop the nonsense Americans! We know better than that.

Every single Hillary supporter I have talked to in the last month without exception said they will switch to McCain should Obama get the nomination. Let's face it a war hero with a son in service in Iraq and 40 years of experiance is WAY better qualified to lead the nation than a radical, green one turn senator with a chaeckered past, racist friends and corrupt backers. The Dems just handed the Reps the election. So be it, McCain ain't perfect but he sure beets Obama. Good bye Dems.

Instead of blaming Obama for running a better campaign, Hillary supporters might point the finger at the mistakes of Mark Penn, Patty Doyle and etc. as they managed the race.

Her solid finish is almost entirely due to her own stamina and grit. She certainly didn't get the help she needed to beat a better funded and organized campaign.

In the end, it was her campaign that couldn't close the deal and there's no reason to assume it wouldn't have failed her again in November.

This process has been pretty traumatizing for the democratic party...im not so sure that democrats and their various factions can fall in line and goose step there way to victory the way the republicans always do. That being said, obama is undoubtedly outstanding for one reason above all the others.....the youth vote. He'll drive 18-30 year olds out to register/vote in numbers like never before...and in a country where democratic participation is at low(among western nations) thats a VERY good thing in general....although cynic(myself included) may point out that sheers numbers simply voting doesnt matter...its about a politically educated populace voting....

frankly (as an independent who works in washington) i love watching the raging feminist get all up in arms about there corporate candidate. im not saying barack is much better (although i do give him credit for breaking with 50 years of failed us foreign policy across the globe....and save your reagan/death of communist rouge, we had VERY litte to do with that..ask Yegor Gaidar) but hillary is a moderate conservative on the total spectrum of politics....shes absolutly no different than the others of the corporatocracy who've been entrenched in washington for years.....take healthcare....single payer healthcare now morphed into mandated insurance coverage all to line the pockets of the healthcare industry.....but hey lobbyists in washington dc will love it if obama gets elected....conservative predictions for lobbyist budgets quadruple if Obama gets in the white house.......that..de facto...is corporations afraid of change

I'm extremely confused how Hillary supporters can continue to spew the same popular vote statements when this is discussed at all. The popular vote was not cut and dry and depending on which way it was interpreted, both Obama and Clinton won an equal number of times. I'm also trying to put together how after Hillary was the only candidate to leave her name on a ballot that she knew was being collected against DNC rules, should still receive the benefit of those votes. Vote in the fall with your ego rather than your intelligence and McBush is going to treat you to another 4 years of poor decisions. He'll also be burning bridges with all of our neighbors in the world, but you will have flipped Obama off so I'm sure that will offer you some comfort.

The article was bad enough, but reading the comments was worse. It all sounds a little like "I'm willing to believe in democracy as long as I get my way."

I have 2 questions for people who so avidly believe that Obama "stole" the nomination:

1. Why does it make sense to count the delegates from Michigan and Florida?

It was not the DNC's fault that these states decided to ignore the rules which were agreed upon prior to the Primaries and set their primary date early. Granted it is not the fault of people in those states directly, but it was at the hands of those elected BY THE PEOPLE of those states who chose to ignore the rules. If we are playing fair here, then how is it fair to change the rules in the middle of the game? Wouldn't that be considered manipulative and an example of stealing? Prior to the primaries of these states all parties agreed that these states broke the rules and would not be counted, thus the reason Obama's name was not on the ballot. It wasn't until the Clinton camp realized these delegates gave her steam that they changed their tune about what should happen with MI and FL's delegates.

2. How exactly do you see it hat Clinton won the popular vote?

Based on what I said above, which is reality, you can not include MI's primaries in the count for popular vote. Obama's name was not on the ballot, which he choice to do based on the compliance with DNC rules, so the MI primary is in no way reflective of what the popular vote in MI would be. There is no way to tell exactly how many people in that election would have voted for Obama instead of Clinton or how many Uncommitted votes would have been for Obama. It is an untrue reflection of what the vote would have been, adding in the MI votes is another way to manipulate the results and it is the ONLY way Clinton has the popular vote. Its changing the rules mid game again, which seems easy to do when it changes the winner. It was the choice of elected officials in MI to forfeit their involvement in the Primaries and that is something both people in MI and the Clinton camp and supports must accept.

Hillary did not win the popular vote. Barack did.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/06/the_people_have_spoken.html?hpid=topnews

I will never vote for this mascot dandidate. He was manufactured and ran an underhanded campaign. This lifelong democrat will not fall in line because it violates my conscience.