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Nader questions Obama's message

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor June 6, 2008 02:53 PM

This could be exactly the kind of rhetoric that Democrats were worried about with Ralph Nader.

The consumer activist's independent presidential campaign this afternoon sent out a fund-raising solicitation that approvingly quotes novelist Russell Banks raising questions about Barack Obama, the new presumptive Democratic nominee.

Banks, in an interview aired yesterday on Radio Open Source, said, "How do you get people to vote against their own self interest? That's the trick." (The discussion of the election comes about nine minutes into the interview.)

"One way is to make people believe in a dream. That's what all of the mainstream politicians are doing -- feeding that dream. Obama is feeding a dream -- a dream of change and renewal. He's feeding a dream that the conditions that surround us -- Iraq, the economy, the racial divide, the class divide in this country -- that they are magically going to go away by voting for this centrist Democrat."

"The Obama moment is a feel good moment," the novelist continued later in the interview. "It makes us feel good. But the programs Obama is proposing -- up and down and all around -- are the same centrist Democratic positions. The same people are going to be running the show. All of the corporations are rapidly switching their contributions to the Democrats."

The Nader campaign email then adds, "What wasn't mentioned was Nader/Gonzalez. So, let us say it loud and clear. Nader/Gonzalez. Shift the power from the few to the many. Free our government of corporate domination. Restore the sovereignty of an engaged people. Don't fall for the trick. Help us put Nader/Gonzalez on the ballot."

Many Democrats, of course, still blame Nader for helping stop Democrat Al Gore from reaching the White House in 2000 -- an assertion Nader vehemently denies.

17 comments so far...
  1. Nadar is a loser, wasting the votes of the people who support him. He will not be on the ballot.

    Posted by washington June 6, 08 03:25 PM
  1. "But the programs Obama is proposing -- up and down and all around -- are the same centrist Democratic positions. The same people are going to be running the show."

    This is so true. Edwards was the most progressive candidate the Dem's had.

    I'm glad that Nader is speaking out. This is a discussion worth having.

    Posted by Marty Wrin June 6, 08 03:55 PM
  1. It is disgraceful that Nader is ignored, marginalized, and dismissed by the media. But not surprising. It is really too bad that so many people are swept up by empty slogans, and smooth talk by Obama, Clinton and McCain. All three candidates support the status quo. Contrary to Obama's claims of taking only small donations from individuals, he is backed by the biggest Wall Street firms: Goldman Sachs, UBS AG, Lehman Brothers, JP Morgan, Chase, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley, & Credit Suisse, as well as giant hedge fund Citadel Investment Group. Visit the Center for Responsive Politics, a non-partisan research group at www.opensecrets.org for info concerning campaign contributions. SO it is no surprise that Obama's, Clinton's & McCain's health care reform plans are all designed to reap added profits for the toxic insurance/pharmaceutical/HMOs, and not truly address the dysfunctional, and broken health care system. Nader is advocating a Single Payer-Medicare For All which elliminates the corporate, profit
    driven insurance/pharmaceutical racket from the equation. While Democrats & Republicans have received ample coverage during this election campaign, thus far there has been no serious coverage of Ralph Nader's presidential campaign. Ironically, Nader is one candidate who is bringing up crucial issues that are essential for the nation and the world. The runaway corporate state is the one issue we need to seriously address during this election, which is on top of the list on Nader's presidential platform. .It is time for the media to provide Ralph Nader a
    forum to elaborate on so many vital issues that impact the daily lives of Americans, and people around the world. We want to hear and see Ralph Nader during this campaign, and demand that he be included in national debates. Visit www.votenader.org to learn more about the Nader platform.

    Posted by Shiu Hung June 6, 08 04:43 PM
  1. Re: to comment #1. Preventing your opponents from competing is not a legitimate election strategy. When Democrats suppress voter choice by forcing legitimate candidates off the ballot, they are in company with Castro in Cuba, Putin in Russia and the communist Chinese, but in violation of the United States Constitution. Try winning an election in which voters have a free choice of candidates for once.

    Posted by Concerned Citizen June 6, 08 05:27 PM
  1. Nader has done more for the people of this country than every Democrat currently in Congress combined. Obama is yet another corporate pro-war shill. We will never win real change by voting for the lesser evil.

    Posted by Nicholas Hart June 6, 08 05:49 PM
  1. Not this time Nader. But go ahead and run. BUt remember that you as old as McCain, and about as as addled.

    Posted by JOsh June 6, 08 05:57 PM

  1. Ralph, More power to your ideas. Keep working to end this insane war and bring our people home. You've been out there making speeches, doing interviews and writing articles and have written at least three books in the last 6 years. And you've been writing weekly commentary on the things that really matter, at http://www.nader.org .The question is where has the Press been on these important matters you discuss? where have the "Talking Heads" been on corporate crime and the profiteers of this war? The population is too busy being entertained and watching Sporting events to get involved, they take the easy route and don't bother to think, settling instead for snippets and quick slogans. Knowing what's going on in a Corporate controlled State takes work. Thank you Ralph, for all the good things you've done to protect the People of this Country. Amazing how quickly they forget, or perhaps they just don't know. Almost everyone's lives and/or that of friends and relatives of theirs, have been improved and made safer because of you, Some wouldn't be alive today, if not for Ralph Nader! Their minds have been intentionally bombarded with with Corporate propaganda and the Democrat Party scapegoating machine. Clinton and that phony Terry McAuliffe should be ashamed of their comments regarding you. They continue the DNC scapegoating myth. thank you for your great service to this Country. More power to your ideas. http://www.votenader.org..... all the rest of you out there, buckle-up! ....... Other Great websites about Nader; Click on play at http://thewomandirector.com./ AND after that go to http://www.dianeszoo.com/ralphnader.htm to vote and comment

    Posted by Sebastian June 6, 08 05:58 PM
  1. Well...I voted for Hillary but as we all know, the popular vote doesn't count in this country. I like Nadar....I like him alot. He's stands against the kind of elitism that the DNC has clearly show during their bid for Obama.

    Posted by gaypastor June 6, 08 11:03 PM
  1. Nader is right on every issue and always has been. The Democrats talk a different talk but they always vote to approve the war and other right-wing policies. A vote for Nader is worth twice the votes for a Republican or Democrat. A vote for Nader is a vote against both parties! You can't beat that with a stick. You keep running, Ralph, and I will continue to send money and my vote to you. Here comes another $25.00.

    Posted by NaderBoy June 7, 08 09:30 AM
  1. Nader is NOT a loser, the people who keep talking about "change" and then vote for Republicans and Democrats over and over and over are the real losers...

    Posted by realchange June 7, 08 11:45 AM
  1. Democrats worried? Yes. Rhetoric, No. He raises valid points, ones we should all be raising. If there are valid answers, give them. Why not?

    Posted by Morgan Mghee June 7, 08 08:34 PM
  1. It is about time that people discuss how empty all of Obama's rhetoric is--what about concrete policy?

    The attitude that all of the US's problems will magically melt away if this (well intentioned?) talking head is elected shows how desperate we have become but also how ill informed Americans are.

    Please remember that Obama's biggest supporter is Oprah Winfrey whose biggest interests are capitalism and platitudes and his past spiritual advisors advocate intolerance.

    Posted by I know history June 7, 08 09:03 PM
  1. Just putting it out there that Nader, rather than stealing votes from Gore in 2000, brought out mostly new voters who wouldn't have cast a ballot otherwise. I don't think he has even the slightest chance of winning, but he should certainly run.

    Posted by MC Love June 8, 08 04:44 PM
  1. he'll be on the ballot. Everyone is pro obama because he's black. If he's white, no press, no attention, no big deal

    Posted by elliot June 9, 08 09:53 PM
  1. Call the Commission on Presidential Debates, which is a corporate-funded entity that has controlled the Presidential debates since 1988, and let them know you want Ralph Nader to be included in national debates. His Presidential platform deserves to be given equal media attention so that people really do know the difference between these candidates, and know who represents their best interests, and not the special interests of corporations. The phone number for the Commission on Presidential Debates: 202-872-1020. www.votenader.org

    Posted by Michelle June 10, 08 02:00 PM
  1. Have you read that the Chief Economic Advisor for Obama is Jason FurmanBig Box - Wal-Mart , and one of the VP Search Team appointed is Jim Johnson who got sweet loans from Countrywide. How is that for change we can believe in?
    Remember Master War Maker and geopolitical chess player Brezinski advises Obama on geopolitical matters. Brezinski was the one who helped get Osama and the Taliban funded, supplied, and set up in Afghanistan. Look how Obama is kowtowing to AIPAC, and the right wing faction in Miami by leaving the destructive, outdated, nonsensical trade and travel embago against Cuba in place. Ralph Nader is a real alternative, who is calling for genuine change. His platform calls for Single Payer, a not for profit model which would be cost effective, efficient and comprehensive, ending corporate personhood, reverse Middle East policy, and more. Support Ralph Nader www.votenader.org

    Posted by Natalie June 11, 08 11:39 AM
  1. I would haved liked John Edwards as Prez , with Obama as VP, Ralph Nader as AG, and Kucinich as Sec of State.
    Whatever, the White house Dem's do if they want real change for the Middle class and the Poor, they NEED RALPH NADER AND JOHN EDWARDS TO START KICKING THE CORPORATE GREED OUT.
    Lock those fucks up hard time!

    As for illegal immigration, catch them and immediate public service for 3years,military or Peace Corp and regardless of age and condition it has to be done, And pay them fair and if they survive these stupid Bush desasters. Make em citizens. They've earned it and it will help build back America to a respected nation. instead of having a international shit face, the wrold will know that we're out to help the poor immigrant and getting our national defense bolstered.

    Posted by CharlesMarciniak July 6, 08 01:20 AM
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