Paul, Barr throw each other bouquets
You can see the beginnings of a possible alliance this fall between Ron Paul, who formally ended his Republican presidential bid Thursday night, and Bob Barr, the Libertarian Party's nominee.
Paul was the Libertarian nominee in 1988, and many of his supporters are libertarian-minded on economic and social issues. The Texas congressman praised Barr in an appearance on CNN on Thursday, and in a statement issued early today, Barr reciprocated.
"Congressman Ron Paul has fought tirelessly in both the Libertarian Party and the Republican Party to minimize government power and maximize individual liberty," said Bob Barr, a former GOP congressman from Georgia. "I want to thank him for all that he has done for liberty in this nation, and encourage him to continue his fight through whatever avenues he sees fit."
The Libertarian Party plans to get Barr on the ballot in 48 states in November. Paul's supporters could provide a huge boost for Barr, who could be a spoiler for Republican John McCain.
Paul announced his move -- ending his campaign and starting a new "Campaign for Liberty" group to help elect libertarian-leaning Republicans -- in a speech Thursday night to supporters attending the Texas Republican Party state convention in Houston.
"Freedom is very popular. Not only is freedom popular, freedom works," Paul told supporters, according to the Associated Press.
Paul hopes that at least 11,000 of his backers fill a Minneapolis arena for a counter-convention on Sept. 2, timed to coincide with the Republican National Convention in neighboring St. Paul.
"Paul fought an uphill battle for liberty every day in his presidential campaign against all of the big-government juggernauts of the Republican Party," Libertarian Party spokesman Andrew Davis said in a statement.
"Paul opened many doors for liberty in this nation through his presidential campaign," Davis continued. "By that standard--of which all politicians should be judged--he won a bigger victory than John McCain or Barack Obama ever will. Ron Paul worked to empower the people, not the government. That is a rare trait in today's political world."
UPDATE: Independent Ralph Nader also began courting Paul voters today.
"Ron Paul was a lightning rod for millions of Americans against the war in Iraq and for the protection of personal liberties that the two major parties have turned their back on--by continuing to support the illegal criminal war and the Patriot Act," the Nader campaign said in a statement.
"Now that Dr Paul has formally withdrawn his candidacy for the G.O.P. nomination and is no longer seeking the Presidency, there is a clear choice for those who want to support a candidate who will stand up against the war and stand up for personal liberties and privacy that have been trampled by the notorious, misnamed, Patriot Act."



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True change....true hope. Found in a couple of unlikely allies.
Voting for McCain, voting for Obama is voting for the establishment. Vote for the libertarians. Vote for change. This country deserves better than a two party stranglehold on politics. This is our downfall.
Barr has my vote since he is a Fair Tax advocate.
I don't see any of the Yankees saying Ron Paul is too old even though he's older than McCain. Your ultra liberals in Mass. can have your Kennedys and your liberal ideas (abortion, same sex marriages, etc.). As a Catholic, I'm ashammed that most of your state is the same religion as mine, but then with your believes, you can be Catholic but in name only. Keep your ideas to yourself and quit polluting the American people.
If you people think that Ron Paul's speech yesterday was a conceding speech, you are mistaken. If was just the opposite. It was shutting the door to the presidency that gets manipulated with electronic votes, and opened a door to a grassroots effort that WILL NOT be stopped. A revolution has begun, and with Ron Paul as the only Commander in Chief I will take orders from, I say full speed ahead to my Constitutional Army fellow foot soldiers. Viva la revolucion! This country belongs to the people and we have every intention of taking it back!
The Ron Paul Revolution is a permanent revolution. I will stand with Paul and Barr because the only wasted vote is voting for the Republicrats.
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Since Obama has a lock on the Massachusetts electoral college votes, any Republican sympathetic to Small Government should not waste a vote on McCain but send a message about fiscal responsiblity by voting for Barr in November.
We all need to get on the same page. Either we all write in Ron Paul or we all vote for Bob Barr. Which is it? We need to come togther to make the biggest impact!
Actually, a vote for McCain (at this stage) IS just like a vote for Barr and/or Paul and the vast majority of the things they represent. Voting directly for these guys (at this point) takes away valuable votes from McCain who shares the vast majority of their values. Don't risk it. This is not some "funny" election game, and we need to consider the principles and ideologies of the candidates. Note that this is not about "change" but it IS about ideology. Obama is an extreme leftist -- he is the Anti-Ron Paul, and he stands for the things that Ron Paul has been fighting against. Most are doing this because they realize that McCain will win in a landslide victory anyway, but why take any chance at all here?
Though this country is not aware of it yet, it owes Dr. Paul a great debt of gratitude for what is, in the majority of cases, a sole voice of Liberty speaking out against the tresspasses of an seemingly unrestrained government. The whole and sole purpose of the Constitution is to limit government, not the People. How far we have strayed from the original concept that founded this country, it is time to return or face the consequences, many of which we are already witnessing.
True Change? Don't you mean just making sure that people who are moderately to very comfortable stay that way or just get more comfortable? Voting Libertarian is about as idiotic as voting for the Communist Party USA or LaRouche and company. Someone might say real change is the Green Party, but that's yet another re-ordering of the people we think are in charge.
Real Change = devastating earthquakes and hurricanes leading to a rebuilding of the society a la Mad Max. You guys are still distracted by Big Business's shadow. I'd rather just keep the Republicrats and Democans in office. At least we know they can steadily march us to the brink as we have for the last 25 or so years.
Wake up Americans.
Ron Paul opposes this war more than Obama.
He wants all of the troops to come back and contribute to our own economy.
Ron Paul believes that you should be entitled to liberty, freedom and personal responsibility.
What more can you ask for from such a man.
Visit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul
JJ,
Sorry buddy, but I hate what the Republican's have become. I've always hated what the Democrats are. I'm not trying to influence the Democratic Party with my vote I'm trying to influence the Republican Party with my vote and a vote for McCain would send the wrong message to the party. They'd take it as support for McCain even though he makes me sick. A little crazy Obama ought to wake people up huh?
Grumpy, who knows what you're even talking about. Why is voting LIbertarian idiotic? I never new supporting the Constitution was a kin to voting for the Communist Party. The Republican Party claims to support the Constiution while the LIbertarin Party actually supports the Constitution.
Why not just vote Democrat ? Any Libertarian vote isn`t a vote FOR ANYONE. It`s a vote AGAINST McCain, which means the only winner in all this is....OBAMA !
Learn from our history folks !
JJ:
You need to take a little quiz to clarify your political paradigm. The first time around insert your own answers. There are no wrong answers. It just tells you where you are "at." Then do it a second and third time -- and insert McCain and Obama -- as they would answer, based upon what they do, not upon what they say....
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html
I don't know which quadrant you will end up in. But McCain and Obama end up in the same one, and it is not usually associated with their respective parties.
A pox on both their houses!
Bob Barr '08
actually JJJune, John McCain is the anti-Paul. If it were not for the war issue, John McCain would be a democrat. He is a Republican in name only (RINO). The only issues where he is currently in line with the party are on issues he has switched on recently. I suggest you look at:
McCain / Kennedy = Amnesty for Illegal aliens and open border
McCain / Leiberman = Environmentall Issues
McCain / Feingold = Campaign finance reform
Weak on 2nd amendment
Weak on abortion
Voted against the tax cuts before he voted for them.
Admittedly knows little about the economy.
Doesn't understand that war and interventionist foreign policy makes us less safe.
We should have chosen Paul. Just because McCain has an (R) next to his name does not mean he is entitled to my vote. At this point, I will vote for Barr. If that means Obama wins, then that's ok. I think McCain's foreign policy stand will do more damage to the US and it's economy than any of Obama's social policies. The social policies will be reversable.
The Republican party deserves to lose this time.
Carol,
The quiz is a little simplistc, but you're right on. Certainly Obama and McCain would agree on most of those questions.
I think that quiz is designed to show people what true freedom really means and that the Libertarian Party represents that.
A vote for the Libertarians and Bob Barr is a vote for libertarian principles. The same principles championed by Ron Paul.
If you want Obama to win, then Vote for Obama. If you want McCain to win, then Vote for McCain..... Sorry but no one had my vote to start with, so no one has lost it. But Ron Paul and Bob Barr have both earned my support.
Sorry JJ, but with Bob Barr in this race, McCain can't pull it off. If you don't want Obamanation, then you should look at your options. Obama, or Barr. At least you'll be proud that you supported the Geriatric Old Party.
Voted for Perot,
Because I'm not a sell-out and I choose to vote for the person that most exemplifies my principles which is what voting should be all about. To bad most people are sheep and continue to vote for the lesser of two evils when there are other options for them.
Paul voters are not ruled by fear. McCain can't get our votes by appealing to fear of Obama and the Democrates, nor can Obama get our votes by appealing to fear of McCain. Either will increase the size and power of the federal government -- neither is acceptable.
We will be voting FOR the candidate that offers the best opportunity to advance the cause of liberty. For me, that's Libertarian Bob Barr.
Those candidates (Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Green, Constitution, Independent, etc) that seriously and believably advocate reducing the size, power, expense, and intrusiveness of government will earn our votes and support. Those that don't, won't.
Yup Jason,
The quiz essentially shows that McCain and Obama are both statists -- at the opposite end of the spectrum from Ron Paul. McCain is not a conservative and Obama is not a liberal.....
So, whereas JJ would like to think Ron Paul is pretty close to McCain on the issues, being in the same party and all, the Nolan Chart paints a graphic picture.
For those who haven't done it go to:
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html
It's great to give to your friends. They might be more libertarian than they think....
I will never vote for ObamcCain. It's either Barr, Baldwin or a write-in for Paul. You don't have to be a Libertarian - you just have to be someone who opposes the statist status quo and a lover of liberty.
This movement is about more than one man - it is about us. Show your strength and reject the Republicrats. The establishment is afraid of you and your power.
Write in Ron Paul. But whatever, don't vote for teh establishment (McCain/Obama), We have to make sure that whoever wins doesn't have a majority but a plurality. That will let us know that they can't truthfully claim a mandate from the majority.
I disagree with the Libertarians on abortion. i am pro-life: anti-abortion, anti-death-penalty, anti-bombing-of-civilians.
I thought the FCC had regulations of equal time for Presidential candidates. Why has so little time been given to Barr? And Nadar, too, I suppose. I like Glenn Beck's take on the election: he'd rather vote FOR someone that against someone. I agree. Obama's economic polices are horrendous, his judgment in advisors poor, and he obviously doesn't understand the Constitution's limits on what the government is allowed to do. McCain, well, I'm surprised no one has dubbed him "Flip-flopper 2". What went on behind closed doors at the RNC to get him nominated??? Our poor Founding Fathers -- how sad they must be. Paul has resigned.......don't waste your vote on a non-candidate............you have 4 choices and Barr is the most logical at this point.
Personally I do not care who get is beside Obama. If Obama gets in I must ask, Who will come and Liberate us from the Trouble we will be in. Say No to Poor Economy, To Higher Fuel and save LIVEs by saying No to Obama and the rest of the Democrat Party.
Remember, the lesser of two evils is evil.
So if you support evil, vote McBama.
If you want to vote your conscience and vote for freedom, then the candidate of choice is Bob Barr.
I had to laugh about Nader "courting" Paul supporters. Nader's ideas about government involvement and regulation of industry and people is so contrary to Paulians that its absurd to even think he could garner 1 out of 100 Paul supporters.
It shows just what kind of moron Nader really is.
Nice try Nader. Your health care plan is FAR from anything Ron Paul would ever advocate. Barr and Baldwin are the likely votes for the Paulites. For me, I think Barr will do the best job reaching those who haven't been reached by the Paul campaign and he has my support.
Barr is not Paul. Barr is a Libertarian. Paul is a Libertarian Republican. Paul realizes that the country is not ready for a third party and so should you.
I think Ralph Nader is a fine alternative for Ron Paul supporters.
Paul speaks against BIG GOVERNMENT. And contrary to what news bites and propaganda would have you believe, Nader is also against big government. Consider the enormously bloated military budget which accounts for nearly half of the government's total operating budget. This is a tremendous waste of taxpayer money going to imperial wars based on lies.
And as part of this war, we have more BIG GOVERNMENT in the form of citizen surveillance. The PATRIOT Act (which Barr VOTED FOR) grants the government unprecedented powers to watch over American citizens without the need to prove probable cause in the court system.
Nader is against big government when it is fraudulent, wasteful or illegal. He calls for end to the intrusive PATRIOT Act and a massive reduction in the military budget. He wants to put an end to the excess of corporate welfare and put and end to the intrusive, failing drug war.
Nader is against maximizing government and sees its role as simply protecting the rights and interests of citizens and society as a whole.
I am a huge fan of Ron Paul and will never, never vote for Bob Barr. Bob Barr is a hypocrite and a scumbag. It wouldn't surprise me if he were a Neocon plant in the LP. Barr voted for the Iraq war AND the Patriot Act. Nader is much closer to Ron Paul on the issues of foreign policy, monetary policy, and the protection of civil liberties. Yea, he would want a lot of Federal regulation BUT only against corporations that now own congress and are responsible for turning our nation to fascism. I will either write in Ron Paul or vote for Nader.
Many good comments here. I will vote for Chuck Baldwin. I think he is closer than Barr on most of Ron Paul’s issues. I agree with a previous post that the Republicans need to lose. Things will unfortunately have to get worse before they get better. Obama/McCain are 2 sides of the same coin. Bob Barr is good, but Baldwin is better.
Remember this; this freedom struggle has just begun. Also consider joining the John Birch Society. Ron Paul has enthusiastically endorsed this fine organization, and will be the key note speaker at the JBS 50th anniversary celebration this fall. I would not be surprised to see Paul join this group, and or become their new leader. Their ideals are so much in line with each other.
The Revolution continues….
Obama will most likely become the next dictator...uh...president. Taxes will increase on everyone regardless of what he says and the economy will get worse. A McCain ad said that he would lift the ban on drilling for oil in America but if that was true, then why hasn't Bush done that? He does what he wants anyway and gets away with it, why not lift that ban too? The whole damned thing is nothing more than a dog and pony show. There's more likely a whole other agenda that no one knows of but those traitorous warmongering, fear mongering people that we call our government. You know, there's only 552 of them and 300 million of us. I think we have them outnumbered. You do the math...
I do agree with just about every platform the Libertarian party has to offer, but there are two huge obstacles that they will have to overcome to become even relatively persuasive to the American public. First off, some of their ideas like, "the absolution of victimless crimes" will have to be altered so they dont automatically scare the majority of the public away. Right or Wrong, if you can't reach the audience their no point in having a Libertarian party. Secondly, the Reublicans and the Democrats spent around 350 million each in their campaigns in 2004 while the Libertarian party only a little over 1 million. So your average American probably doesn't know we even exist. We will continue this cycle until there is some sort of campaign financing reform. Sometimes you have to sacrafice a couple small things in order to reach your ultimate goal (kind of like Ron Paul has done) which would be voting for McCain this election....someone who IS for campaign finance reform. This would make it possible to be heard by a larger population in the future and with the evolution of some of our ideas it could be feasible that our party could join the mainstream. But this won't happen if Obama is elected president, so do the smart thing and vote for John McCain. I'm so sick of the two party system and the fact that both of them aim to take away more and more of our personal god given American freedoms. Change needs to happen!!
I love it when Republicans (GOP Sheep) try to convince me that Libertarians don't matter in elections but then try to convince me that a vote for Barr is a vote for the Democrats (DNC Sheep). I thought I didn't matter?! You can hear the fear in their voice about the growing influence of Libertarians. Both parties better take notice that the silent majority of Americans aren't far left or far right but want what the Libertarian party wants. They're just spoon fed propaganda about a two party system their whole lives, but the re-education is beginning.
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