Top woman in Mass. legislature disappointed by Clinton loss

Let us tell these Hillary supporters that it is time to move on just as the moveon.org asked the republican congress to move on during the Monica Lewinsky impeachment trial.

America is a Jeffersonian democracy not a husband/wife, Louis XVI/Marie Antoinette, Argentinian democracy. Hillary has lost the primary election and the Clintons are just history. Let us accept the reality and move on.

Hillary did not lose because of male voters,she lost because of fatal mistakes by herself ,her husband and her campaign managers. These people need to get off this sexist baloney and get a life.

Any Clinton supporters who are wondering whether to vote for Obama just need to remember John Paul Stevens. Stevens is 88 and he won't be serving on the Supreme Court much longer. Do you really want John McCain to appoint his successor, ensuring a solid 5-vote right wing majority? If you're OK with the overturning Roe v. Wade (which would be #1 on that court's to-do list), go right ahead and vote for McCain, Nader, or McKinney.

I agree with Al - Senator Clinton lost the primary because she made bad decisions and judgements during the campaign, whether they were hers or those who she hired to represent her. It didn't help that her campaign belittled and marginalized those who did not support or vote for her. She was inconsistent in message and action, while Senator Obama remained on point. That said, I would not deny for a moment that sexism exists and that some of it was directed at Senator Clinton, however, I would also point out that racism still exists and some of it was directed at Senator Obama. Because those two issues seem to cancel each other out, there was clearly something more at play in her loss as I indicated above.

The McCain Loyalty Oath for Women

I _____________ pledge to transfer my support from Hillary Clinton to John McCain. I agree to do all I can do to get McCain the vote. In order to achieve this noble goal I promise to support McCain's...

* fight to overturn Roe v. Wade and my right to choose.
* fight against equal pay for men and women.
* opposition to providing low-income and uninsured women and families with health care services ranging from breast and cervical cancer screening to birth control.
* opposition to sex education and support of abstinence-only education.
* making birth control covered by insurance.
* endorsement of women's rights more "in theory" than in practice.
* pet name for his wife.

As a woman I promise to apply McCain's principles to my own life and vow to...

* call myself and my female friends the C word.
* picket abortion clinics.
* not use contraceptives.
* drink bleachso I don't catch HIV and drink Mountain due so I don't get pregnant.
* give back part of my salary to male coworkers.
* not vote, but pursue education and encourage my father/husband/brother male friends to vote for McCain.

Once McCain is elected, I will continue to support him and I will not complain about my losing my right to choose, and other reproductive freedoms. And I will continue to refrain from pursuing equality for women.

Sincerely,
Signature __________

Therese Murray, the highest-ranking woman in the Massachusetts legislature, said she was disappointed that Hillary lost but that she is still a Democrat. I too considered myself a Democrat until the DNC made it clear they didn't want a woman to be President. Hillary had more votes than Obama to win the primary.

For the first time I am ashame to call myself a Democrat. Everyone knows the primary was practically handed to him because of his color. I don't understand why people see this as historical. He is a man who is of White and black orgin. Even though he doesn't like to mention the White part except when it's to his benefit. He's nothing to get excited about!

It would have been even more historic to have a woman in office because we have never elected a woman president. I hope I live long enough to see this come to pass, but in the meantime I will as well as many women cast my vote for McCain. We know is past and present. We still know know who this Obama person is? Maybe his Pastor will re-surface againn to share this with the world

Virginia, the election wasn't handed to Obama, he won it. And this nominating process wasn't a competition to see who would be the most "historic" candidate, it was a contest to see who could get more LEGITIMATE votes and be elected. Obama did that by talking up to people and avoiding the kind of character assassination scorched earth campaigning that Hillary Clinton resorted to. She lost because she ran a bad campaign.

Whine whine whine.

Pelosi, Dean, Reid, and Brazile can all take credit for disenfranchising millions of Democrats. Brazile said that our votes were not needed because we could be replaced by new and younger voters ... it looks like she may get what she wants after all.

The election was stolen by Obama, same way he stole it from AA Sen. Alice Palmer in Chicago. The man's a genius in sneakily knocking off the ballot his female benefactors. Ever seen "All About Eve"--a classic reenactment of Barack's political rise. With an able assist from the media misogynist frat-boys, the limping candidate was pushed to the superdel finish line. Not to say that he himself did not contribute mightily to the rampant Hillary-bashing that became the national blood sport! Who can forget the YuTube mega-hit: "OBAMA GIVES HILLARY THE F!NGER"--now that's change we can really believe in! Remember his "periodically, she gets low in her moods and uh uh she sort of launches attacks against me"....whining endlessly...Wonder if he'll ever look at Ahmadinejead and complain this much!

This immature candidate is not to be trusted with the vote--not anymore than to trust your teenaged son with the keys to your brand new car! Come November, Obamyopia will be delivered Bitter antidote from that Invisible Demographic that he ordered to 'step to the back of the bus' during this ignominious campaign!

Obama is anything but qualified to be president. If it were not for his race, he would not have won. African Americans said they would not vote if Hilliary won the nomination. Yet the same people say the white people should vote for Obama if Hilliary loses. What kind of rationality is this. What if all the people that are not African American do not vote because Hilliary didn't win? How about a little more fairness in this media coverage and by DNC.

I am wondering when women in public life started to be defined by their gender. It takes some identity beyond the stereotypical to enter public life and take on the responsibilities for social order and welfare, tedious as they are sometimes, with so much hard work and high demands. So already a woman in public life has stepped out of those stereotypes. It seems incongruent to bring them up as an excuse or a blame-making, guilt-making. It is fairly well known that it was Clinton's nomination to lose and she knew it and had all the chips and didn't see Obama coming. But now to blame it on gender, whoa, no, it's not about gender. Do you think that the polls showing low trust and lower likeability are about gender? I think they are about some questionable ethical practices and some coercive methods and a phase in which there was an aura of arrogance, me first, me only. These are character or personality issues but they are not gender issues. There is sexism and racism and ageism so Senator Clinton didn't have the lock on the prejudice this time.

I wanted to vote for Hillary Clinton but when I saw that she was still the same old, same old I became disenchanted which grew into an alarmed state of consideration and very disappointing. It seemed to me that she presented herself as a Hero instead of a Presidential candidate and I didn't need rescuing I needed an honorable leader and it just didn't come across with the dignity becoming anyone male or female. It's very sad to think that her integrity was compromised and surely hope that next time a female candidate runs for office she will keep the 'bar' high and never fail at it which only degrades. Thinking what is best for women or what is best for this country are two different things when it is contrasted Clinton or the USA.

Pelosi, Reid and Dean can't "declare" what my vote will be! I'm an American and I'll vote whatever way I feel is best come November....not what "they" tell me to do. I know Hillary got the popular vote, that vote doesn't "mean anything" and Obama has been "selected" (vs. elected) but I'm still making up my OWN mind. As of now I'm entirely upset with the DNC's disrespect for Hillary, their clear bias for Obama and their complete silence during months of sexist attacks on Hillary. Their call for unity demands a two-way street of mutual respect and they haven't shown that to Hillary (or us!) for months now! As of now I plan to vote for Nader/Gonazalez.

NADER/GONZALEZ FOR 2008!

PS. Sexism 102 class: While women care strongly about reproductive choices a woman is not EQUAL to the issue of reproductive choices. Any Democratic male can be pro-choice but ONLY a women can think/feel/be a WOMAN president! Obama is NOT equal to a woman! If your still confused but his premise ask Obama supporters if Bill is still the "first Black president." They'll quickly point out the difference between socialized labels (which fit "the times") and biological realities (which determines a person's entire life!)

That's right Obamababies, insult, browbeat, and deride Clinton supporters that decide to vote for McCain.
Never think for a second that someone may vote for Country and Values over a party.
Shows how despicable YOUR character is.
Arrogance, sheep and parrots. A very pathetic combination.
I truly pity all that can only follow a Party (and a flawed one at that) and not their beliefs or love of their Country.
So go ahead, show your arrogance and ignorance, it will just make it sweeter when we help McCain get elected.
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Its funny how we should just get over it and fall in line when michelle obama said she wasnt sure she would vote for hillary if she got the nod instead of barack. Obama was defintely immature I remeber the finger, the brushing hillary off his shoulders, the your likeable enough. I wont vote for mccain but right now I am thinking about staying home or writing in a canidate. Its funny that Obama can get away with stating that his grandma was a typical white person, as if white people should be categorized(and I am black), yet bill gets the beat down for stating that jesse jackson also won south carolina.

The only thing we know about Obama is from his self-penned biography and resume. We know he is insufferable, easily peeved, testy and sure of a woman's place in this world - beneath him. His cowboy antics remind me of the complaints we have of our current leader. We can hear him repeat, "change we can believe in," but I'm not sure it's even change anyone - including him - can believe in - spread the wealth maybe. I hear that we should all lose weight and turn off the TV, that we should apologize to the world for being the bossy people we are and that anyone who was afraid of Hillary Clinton had a welcome home in him. Just like sheep we went to war and I think just like sheep we are pushing a Democrat candidate we know nothing about.

It amazes me how the Clinton supporters NEVER describe any mistakes she made. They forgive (or did they notice) her many mistakes and exhibits of down right meanness. . Also, the claims that the superdelegates stole the nomination for Senator Obama ignores Hillary's frequentlly stated intent to win the nomination the very same way. The rules seem not to count for this group.

Al: I am disappointed and feel lost at this whole event. I disagree with you and others parroting the Obama's mantr that Clinton ran a bad campaign. The way I see it, her campaign was badly run but she is an awesome candidate while obama's campaign was efficient but he is a flawed candidate; he could not turn events around, he could not control the agenda, he got to the finish line with the help of superdelegates. Clinton was disappointed with the superdelegates that betrayed her. That was too much, she lost because superdelegates betrayed her. So my take is, the Democratic Party is responsible for Clinton's lost. Let see if Dean can weasle his way out.