Evangelicals not keen on Romney as V.P.

Typical Evangelical blinded ignorance

Typical Liberal "I'm objective but you're not" comment...PHIL.

Jeez, McCain is really milking this VP talk to try to get as much mileage as possible out of it. Wasn't there huge speculation that he going to pick a running mate while Obama was drawing all the coverage over in Europe? Oh no wait, that was just a transparent attempt to steal some limelight.

Whoever McCain picks, I hope they are competent, because given McCain's advanced age, they probably have about a 25-30% shot at serving out at least some of his term.

What so ignorant about their concern over his flip flopping? Mitt is the most transparently fake candidate to have ever run for political office.

I don't get why McCain would have Romney on his short list. He basically brings nothing to the table. The right wing religious conservatives don't like him. Lefties hate him. He's basically a Republican John Kerry. The more middle-of-the-road GOP'ers are already in the McCain camp. So what groups of voters does McCain help bring into the fold by choosing Romney as his running mate?

When push comes to shove, the Evangelicals are not stupid. They are not going to vote for the most liberal Senator as President or abstain from voting entirely if McCain chooses Romney. In my opinion, Romney makes perfect sense as a VP as he has the economic background to guide McCain on issues of that matter. Who else could help turn an economy around but someone who has been in that sector? Romney has been in the private sector and has turned companies around, most notably the Winter games in Salt Lake City. Isn't the US government one big business?

Shane,
No, the US government isnt like a big business, because it can't do what Romney did to the companies he flipped. He cannot fire/layoff the citizens of the country and sell them for parts the way he did with the companies Bain flipped. Also, what exactly did Romney do that was so great the one time he was in government, as MA governor? Not much, and you cant say he couldn't b/c of the democrat congress, b/c that will be the same if McCain is president. Also, Ross Perot was a successful businessman and he was a joke as candidate, like Romney.

It is a strange state of affairs when a pragmatic decision about what political battles to fight always amounts to a flip flop. In a country like ours, there must be compromises between opposing views. I can understand principled stands, but there are times to know recognize when to reach across the isle. Romney made some practical consessions. Romney won't support gay marriage. And he wants to appoint conservative justices that would presumably take a better look at Roe v. Wade as a decision. What else is there a president can do?

Confused by the Evangelical positions that cannot ever recognize a realistic middle ground. Maybe not ideal, but better than nothing. Everything doesn't have to be a scorched earth approach (no pun intended).

VP might be a good job for Mitt- not much opportunity to screw things up

Good news if you like Obama. McCain is on such shaky ground that the more he has to do to satify his right-wing fringe, the more he'll drive mainstream voters away from him. It says a lot about how out of touch and devoid of ideas that conservatives/Republicans are that we hear only the names of white guys floated.

"I don't get why McCain would have Romney on his short list. He basically brings nothing to the table."

Romney has enourmous support in the GOP and can raise much more money than Mccain could alone.

Romney also knows more about the economy than Mccain, Osama Obama, and whatever hack Obama will pick as his VP put together.

Romeny also turns Michigan Red and shores up support for the GOP in states like CO, NV, and NM.

If LDS leaders came out with influencing political statements, we would here about it for a month or two. But Rev. McCoy and evangelicals can use their positions to make political statements and it is OK? Remove their tax exempt status immediately. They promote personal issues and agendas. instead of telling their people to use your best judgement, as our leaders do in the LDS church, they think they `can choose and pick who the want and then use pressure or coersion to influence and warn others. clearly anti-christian.

Flip Flop? Its called a change of heart... something evangelicals claim to know a lot about...right? I think this more about one religious sect opposing another. (Sunni/Shia is another good example) If the evangelicals would proffer someone who isn't a mental imp (Huckabee) or a total nut job (thanks Falwell) then they might have a shot at getting into the White House. McCain has flopped and flipped as much as Romney or Obama or Clinton... but he's not a MORMON (gasp) so his somersaults are all right. And what does a VP have to do with any of this anyway????? Are they afraid he's going to try to move the White House to Salt Lake City??? The only way this opposition makes sense is if its exposed as the religious bigotry it is. But be careful Evangelicals... you don't want to admit that.

Mccain is going to pick Romeny because Romn ey can help him the most. When push comes to shove, evengelicals are going to look at who Obaam really is, the guy who is so pro-abortion that he voted against the Born Alive Infant protection act, the guy who supports gay marriage and the guy who brown noses europeans while not giving our troops in Iraq even the slightest bit of credit for anything positive they have done there. then they're going to say well Mitt Romney's a decent family man who's light years more liek us than Obama and they will vote for Mccain in a heartbeat. Anyone with half a brain can see this coming.

oh and it is quite comical for you Osama Obama rama lama ding dong supporters to be calling Romney a flip flopper given the fact that Barry Hussein Osama has flip flopped on just about EVERY major issue since winning the Democratic nomination.

"It says a lot about how out of touch and devoid of ideas that conservatives/Republicans are that we hear only the names of white guys floated."

That's a typical race baiting comment from a typical ignorant race baiting moonbat. You're probably from MA right John. Did you, like a good Masshole lib vote for Devall because he's black and you wanted to pat yourself on the back for votign for a black guy even though he was a complete hack...which everyone in MA, even the people that voted for him, now know?

If Captain teleprompter does squeak out a victory this fall it will not be because he merits the white house but rather because Mccain is such a horrible candidate running a horrible campaign.

Maybe this country will get lucky and Mccain will step down at the convention and Romney will become the GOp nominee and trounce both ways Barry in November.

Ok Ok.....im not voting for McCain but seriously.....how much pull do evangelicals have.....and when did evangelicals pick conservative republicans as their party????????????

Jesus taught us to lift up the poor and be kind to your neighbor......conservatives believe that the rich have the right to do what they want with their money, and thats true......but to only tax them up to their first $104,000 of income is wrong.....equal taxes.....the poor are being taxed on all their income, meanwhile the rich get taxed on a certain ammount.......also conservatives believe in survival of the fittest which also brings in the "who you know, not what you know" factor that keeps people divided into groups and sets societal boundary markers.......

There is a separation of church and state.....and evangelicals should not be banking and praying that a man or woman run government will ever match what God or Jesus wanted

The flip-flopping charge is getting really old. It only sticks so well because it is so simple-minded. It's something the ignorant or lazy can hold to rather than to justify their positions with a changing, growing field of data and using reason. Also, a study at Vanderbilt during the primaries showed that a significant portion of those that kept the flip-flop charge alive against Romney were merely using it as a convenient, political cover for religion disagreements. These folks have ruined the name of both conservatism and religion. Romney clearly has MUCH to offer a President McCain or we wouldn't be discussing him this much (compare with discussion of Huckabee, for example). As for the empty charge of flip-flopper don't get me started.

"We aren't against Mormonism, but "
Give me a break LaHaye. He might as well of said "We aren't bigots, but"

Let's not single out Romney for "flip-flopping" either. Obama, McCain, Romney - ALL "flip-floppers" are they not? I would be so bold as to say that if the "flop" score was kept McCain and Obama would be smoking Romney on the scoreboard.

Can we be honest here? The word "flip flop" has been beat to death!
A candidate changing a position is nothing new, this character flaw existed before fishes could flop!

Being another faith other than a Evangelical and changing a position are pathetic reasons for not adding Romney to the ticket. Romney would be a great pick for VP and a desperately needed steroid shot for our wimpy economy.

That ticket has my vote and I know I'm not alone.

Who is a "thoroughgoing evangelical?" McCain? If the evangelicals could not support a Jewish candidate, they would be correctly identified as bigots. I watched the Iowa primary up close and personal. The objection to Romney may be political for most citizens, but among the evangelicals, it is mostly bigotry. Check out the courses of study in seminaries, visit a "Christian" bookstore, check out the pamphlets in the foyers. If your congregations are no longer scared righteous by the Devil, then another devil can always be found.

The irony, of course, is that Romney's lifestyle and personal values are probably closer to the evangelicals than any politician in the running.

I, for one evangelical, would be very pleased if McCain had the good sense to choose Mitt Romney as his running mate! In fact, I think Romney is the much better man then McCain.I can only say, thank God Mitt did have the good sense to flip flop on abortion, I myself, did the same as I finally grew up, only I call it coming to my senses instead of a flip flop!

I didn't realize that Evangelical leaders don't like to support freedom loving, anti-abortion, family-caring, generous-giving, religious freedom, honest, economically wise men like Mitt Romney. They must have recently listened to Reverand Huckabee's 1998 sermon from the Southern Baptist Convention strategically placed in the heart of Mormonville, Salt Lake City, UT. I would have thought that they actually understood the basic principles behind freedom, what it is, and how we maintain it. Boy was I wrong...

Here is the problem with Romney:

Overall, I know a number of evangelicals, and according to most of them, it's not that they are saying they will vote for Obama - it's that they are saying that if McCain picks Romney that they will not vote AT ALL, and plan on using the power of the SBC and other religious groups to "spread the message" of punishing the GOP for abandoning them by picking Romney. If McCain picks Romney, my guess is Virginia will thus go to Obama for sure (they hate Romney there - he came in dead last), probably NC (lots of evangelicals), Ohio (3% of the vote to Romney) and Indiana as well (came in dead last, due to evangelicals).

It is interesting that the people who are most opposed to Mitt Romney as a VP are democrats. Although I appreciate the concern they seem to have for republicans, my guess is that they understand that Mitt Romney would be bad news for them in November.

Mike has it right.

As an evangelical (who works at an evangelical seminary), I can tell you that McCain has my vote UNLESS he picks Mitt, and a lot of us feel that way. I've done my part by calling and letting them know that.

I won't vote for Obama. I won't vote third party. I simply won't vote. I don't trust Romney. If I'm going to have a liberal in the White House, I want it to be a Democrat, so that when America realizes the mistake she made (ala Carter), the Republicans can run a conservative and get back to their roots.

Make no mistakes. McCain WILL lose a lot of evangelical votes if he nominates Romney.

McCain/Anybody-But-Romney '08

Here is the problem with Romney:
Overall, I know a number of evangelicals, and according to most of them, it's not that they are saying they will vote for Obama - it's that they are saying that if McCain picks Romney that they will not vote AT ALL, and plan on using the power of the SBC and other religious groups to "spread the message" of punishing the GOP for abandoning them by picking Romney.
If McCain picks Romney, my guess is Virginia will thus go to Obama for sure (they hate Romney there - he came in dead last), probably NC (lots of evangelicals), Ohio (3% of the vote to Romney) and Indiana as well (came in dead last, due to evangelicals).

It is absolutely amazing how much bigotry still exists in what is supposed to be a tolerant and Christ like group of voters. You can blame your distaste for Romney on flip flopping all you want. The truth is obvious. You don't like his religion.

As Evangelicals, you should be particularly disturbed that your leadership is lying to you. When they say it's not because he's Mormon it is a lie. It is ONLY because he is Mormon. If he were Baptist or Evangelical he would be the GOP nominee right now.

What is truly distressing is that such a large block of supposidly consservative voters would be willing to feed our country to the proverbial wolves just so they can say they did not vote for a Mormon.

As an American this makes me sick and and such voters should all be ashamed of themselves.

Make no mistake. A non vote, is a vote for Obama. Now, for once, why don’t we all be honest. As Americans, is anyone really willing to put a man in the white house who is pro-partial birth abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-higher taxes, and pro-surrender in Iraq, just because he is not Mormon?

I would say such an unbelievably stupid act says a lot more about them than it does about Mitt Romney.

As an American this makes me sick and you should all be ashamed of your selves.

rhino39,

Evangelicals don't see their non-vote as a vote for Obama at all - they see it as a non-vote, and that if McCain wants their vote, he'll wise up and pick someone other than Romney. Most are not going to bend one inch on this issue - they feel if Obama wins, it will only prove their point more...that the GOP should have listened to them, when they had the chance.

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You can believe what you want, but if you spent any time talking with evangelicals--at least the ones that I know--you'll just have to call every one of them a liar to their face. Are there some people who don't like Romney because he's a Mormon? Probably. And there are people who will vote for Obama because he is black, and there are people who would have refused to vote for Hillary because she's a woman.

What I can tell you is that, as a conservative, evangelical Republican, I will NOT vote for a McCain/Romney ticket. I would rather sit through four years of Obama than have that fiasco. You certainly has the right to disagree. But if the Republicans want to stay in power, they'll have to represent people like me--people who insist on principled leadership. A no-vote, then, is not a vote for Obama. It's a vote against the current Republican ideology. If Obama is the benefactor of that, then so be it. All McCain has to do is nominate someone other than Romney, and all is well.

McCain/Anybody-But-Romney '08

The question is, how much is this really McCain's choice vs. Romney forcing his way onto the ticket? GOP is in disarray and Romney has a lot of sway in the party elites right now. The Bushies are like the plague, lots of retiring old guarders, heck even an institution like Ted Stevens is a smoking hole now. Romney has built himself as a new GOP force to be reckoned with, which similarly to G.H.Bush in 1980, could get him on the ticket regardless of whether that's the nominees preference.

Also, what Romney is doing is the typical MBA tactics of softly forcing yourself onto somebody, I have had plenty of such experience. He is campaigning and fundraising for McCain, talking his talking points, appearing very helpful and important to the point of making McCain feel very uncomfortable if he had to state the obvious, which is: "Look Mitt, I appreciate your effort but you are a loathsome phony in a $3000 suit, people dislike you intensely, and it would be a disaster for my campaign if I were to pick you up"

As an Obama supporter I really hope that mcCain picks him; he would negate everything that people found appealing in McCain in the first place: authenticity, integrity on torture and illegal detention, principles and straightforwardness, antipathy towards corrupt and plutocratic corporate elites. Romney is the exact opposite on all of these points.

Folks, we have a REAL problem in America when we relegate our thinking and outsource our own good judgment to the media, or when we let a small group of Evangelical fanatics dissuade our better judgment of what our children deserve in an America we will leave them. Virtually all of us sense that Mitt Romney is a natural born leader, who additionally has paid the price with integrity, honesty and fortitude to prepare himself to make an impact on the destiny of America. Someone who will bring economic strength, and prosparity, safety and security to America.

I sense it, my colleagues at work all sense it (I am a physician in a major Boston hospital), and to not stand up and vote our informed conscience and instead allow Hollywierd and the media, and fanatical bigoted Evangelicals keep Romney out of office as if this was some sort of Reality TV Show is decriable. If we allow this, we have regressed to a state of slavery. Of Hitlerism. Our voice, our sense of right and wrong and our ability to rise up and direct the affairs of America should not be snuffed out by those who take their inspiration from Old Eastern Europe. We might as well be in chains indeed.

Rhino 39,

I completely agree with you. This issue of Romney being a flip-flopper has been totally blown of proportion. The reason it stuck so well is that Mitt is wealthy, and he looks like Ken the barbie. McCain has changed his stance or more issues, more recently than Romney has. Huckabee and McCain tag teamed to take Romney down in the primaries and Huckabee's Church goers went wild with this flip floppig thing to go after Romney's real issue for them..the fact that he's Mormon.

Romney is by far the most accomplished person to run for the Presidency in recent history. He's not just a business man, he ran one of the most noted and successful business consulatncy firms in the country. He's a business genius. Frankly, evangelicals who dislike Romney have not studied him close enough. In Iowa, pastors held conference calls on the eve of the caucus explaining why voters should not vote for Romney because mormonism is a "cult". How pathetic.

Not all Evangelicals and Christians are against Romney as Mccains VP choice.The leftwing media is lightning the fire of hate and anti Mormon and anti Romney.Look Barrack Sadam Hussein Obama will taxs your balls and your nuts to support illegal aliens from all over the world until you and your families are naked.He cannot have any mercy to do something for the short term about gas prices like Hilliary clinton propose during her bid for President in the Primaries.The guy is a strong Muslim and thats why he rushed to the Middle East to make good with his Muslim faith so they can support him with their oil rich money.Be smart Americans and not misguided by lousy sweet talks and innocent appearances.I thought Christians knows better and can tell the difference between good and bad but it looks like the bad is about to influence some Christians and Evangelicals.Be strong and faithful guys don't fall asleep while the great Satan is about to swallow you all.

Why not be smart. According to a recent Rasmussen Poll of eligible voters 48% of them give Romney and Unfavorable rating the highest negatives of any potential VP. That is nearaly half of the electorate, while his postive is 8% lower. That is not because Romney is not well known - he spent close to 90 million dollars on his campagin to achieve that rating. On the other end of the spectrum you have Huckabee with a favorable rating of 47% ; 8% higher than his negative ratings. Thus Huckabee offerrs a +16% over Romney. It is a lot more than just evangelicals that have an unfavorable view of Romney. He projects a "Country Club Republican" image which will not sell or help McCain this election.

Oh, this makes perfect sense: Don't vote for a pro-family candidate because you don't like the pro-family VP choice. Instead, you'll get a president that is clearly anti-family. Looks to me like some people are flip flopping!

I hope Mitt goes all the way with McCain. I'm appalled to see all over the internet today the announcement that a lot of evangelicals big wig’s wont vote for McCain if he picks Mitt, and encouraging their followers to follow suit. All this because he is not the same religion as them. Funny how they feel they are such great Christian examples themselves but are really standing in Judgment of their fellow man as the Bible says not to. Infact they are calling Mitt a non-Christian. I hope Mitt gets in so he can lay his hand on the Bible (WHICH HE BELIEVES IN AND TRYS TO LIVE BY) to take the oath of office, then they will finally see what a great CHRISTIAN man Mitt really is. I've never understood somebody having the gull to call another person a non-Christian. In Mitt's religion they are not even allowed to put down any other religion from their pulpits or talk negatively about others belief in their meetings. They don't tare down others religions. It's too bad many fellow Christians spend so much time tearing down the beliefs of others, and they do it from their pulpits. What does a person's religion have anyway with an Election. Besides, he's not running for Pope. Wasn't this country founded on religious freedom? He would be the VP for us Americans. Not VP for God!

Romney has the talent, he has the right position on issues that are important to me and he has what it takes to be president in the event McCain cannot finish out his term or when his term is up. I would throw my full support and money behind a McCain/ Romney ticket. It is too bad that a portion of Evangelicals and Christians (although they do not treat Mormons in a very Christ-like way - by their fruits ye shall know them) are so swayed by the bigotry of their leaders, Huckabee included. The Savior whom they profess to follow taught and lived a better example. To me they act more like those lawyers and religious scribes who were enemies of the Savior than followers of whom they profess to be. They cannot see the forest for the trees. As much as they rant and rave that it is for flip flopping or "distrust" it is no more than than their hatred of Mormons that keeps them from choosing a very well qualified candidate.

Chris. You do realize how illogical your position is?

"I won't vote for Obama. I won't vote third party. I simply won't vote. I don't trust Romney."

"A no-vote, then, is not a vote for Obama. It's a vote against the current Republican ideology."

As a Evangelical Repulican I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume you don't want Obama for your Commander and Chief. So why are you subtracting one Republican vote that simply is one additional no-vote of silence toward securing Obama's position as your president?

Voting is your right and privledge of making your voice heard concerning who you want governing you. Make no mistake about it Chris, a non-vote of silence because you're against your parties pick for VP - is still a vote.

Choose you November 4th whom ye will serve - Obama & ? or McCain & Romney (possibly). There's no such thing as a "no-vote" not adding or subtracting toward the election of a candidate.

NOT JUST EVANGELICALS. Liberals too...
Romney the Ken Doll is plastic you see,
He has lot's of money and Barbie for free,
His hair is so perfect, his teeth and his nose,
But plastic is plastic wherever it goes.

To evangelicals and liberals:

What's wrong with you guys? What's wrong with having a lot of money he sweats and earns? That's much better than getting free ride from our tax like Democrat loves! Ted8, you are absolutely nuts and it doesn't make sense. you are so judgemental about people because you have No education to study about policy.
Evangelicals are so much Not Christian like. They are so proud of their religion and they think they are always right but SO WRONG ABOUT IT. You uses our tax money to build your church buildings. Why? Huckaberry earns money from your church. He is money hungry! And so much jealousy toward Mitt Romney!
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If you truly want to know about LDS, go to www.lds.org
Then you will know about Mormons.

They love families as a basic unit and build the society.
They believe in Faith in the Lord, Jesus Christ as our Savior for mankind.
They believe everyone has free agency to choose right from wrong.
they believe that religion should separate from politics.
They believe in the same sex marriage. Marriage is ordained by God.
One thing they don't do is putting down of other churches like Evangelicals do?
Which one is more Christ like? I often wonder every time I hear Evangelicals speaks

Brian,

The position isn't illogical. Do I want Obama as president? Of course not. I thoroughly expect a Carteresque performance. His tax plans will hurt our economy, and his SCJ appoints will be dangerous. But the net result? America will, as I said before, and as they have done before, learn from her mistake. Republicans will learn that they can't get voted in just because they aren't Dem's.

Tell me. How far should we let Republicans drag us down--how far should we let them run to the left--before we bail, out of fear that "the other guy" will get elected? Look, if the country goes left, we suffer. The party who takes us to the left will suffer. So, I'd rather it be a Democrat to take us left, simply because they are never going to embrace any kind of conservatism.

I'm not thrilled with McCain, but he's acceptable. Romney isn't. Look at his statements before he decided to be a Republican presidential candidate. I'm not willing to gamble this country's future on a fake like Romney. I'm willing to suffer another Carter episode, because, given our history, we'll rebound. But when Romney takes us to the left, who will there be to rebound TO? A Dem? Who will take us FURTHER left? How much damage will be done then?

McCain/Anybody-But-Romney '08

The Republicans need to stop catering to a small handful of white supremacists who pretend to speak for evangelicals. The Democrats need to stop catering to a small handful of neofascists who pretend to speak for liberals. Both of these disgusting, AntiAmerican groups have seized a measure of control in both parties hiding under the cover of the abortion and gay issues and we all need to tell them where to go. There is no difference between them and the KKK and Communists, time to get real. Both major party candidates got to where they are by encouraging it, so neither one is doing too well with me at this point. I want to see some action, I don't owe anyone my vote and you fanatics in both parties can get over that routine. YOU OWE US.

The level of religious bigotry displayed in this election by the southern evangelicals is an embarrassment . It is simply appalling. To make the argument to refuse to vote because the VP happens to be a Mormon and that that a non-vote won't impact an election result is silly and sophmoric at best.

There are countries in this world where a vote is a coveted liberty and they would give anything to participate in any form of a free election. The right to vote in our country has been purchased with the precious blood of our nations finest. What a disgraceful attitude to display by citing a refusal to exercise this right to vote because of prejudice! Is this how evangelicals really want to present themselves?

fallen men and

The level of religious bigotry displayed in this election by the southern evangelicals is an embarrassment . It is simply appalling. To make the argument to refuse to vote because the VP happens to be a Mormon and that that a non-vote won't impact an election result is silly and sophmoric at best.

There are countries in this world where a vote is a coveted liberty and they would give anything to participate in any form of a free election. The right to vote in our country has been purchased with the precious blood of our nations finest. What a disgraceful attitude to display by citing a refusal to exercise this right to vote because of prejudice! Is this how evangelicals really want to present themselves?

fallen men and

To all evangelicals who against other churches!!

May we resolve from this day forward to fill our hearts with love. May we go the extra mile to include in our lives any who are lonely or downhearted or who are suffering in any way. May we “cheer up the sad and make someone feel glad, “May we live so that when that final summons is heard, we my have no serious regrets, no unfinished business, but will be able to say with the Apostles Paul, “I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith.”

L.D.S. won't believe in the same sex marriage! since I'm not American, I made some mistake!

Evangelical is Satanic!
Take freedom of vote from people and their

If you have a light of Christ, you know who is Mitt Romney is.

He is honest, humble and the best V.P. for Mccain 08'
HE WILL BECOME V.P BECAUSE HE HAS EVERYTHING!
HIS PERSONALITY REFLECTS CHRIST. THE LORD WILL BLESS HIM!
NO WONDER EVANGELICALS ARE FALLING!

Hey 39 Fair Player,
Mormans are taught to be nothing short of decent. Like all religions there are wolves in sheeps clothing that give a bad name for the whole group. Tell me, who, in Mormon teaching, will go to Heaven other than Mormons? This doesn't qualify as a "put down"?

Romney will be great as VP.
Its seems he can get under the skin of an opponent. This is what McCain needs. Someone to be the attack dog. Someone to hold Obama's feet to the fire.
Not voting to teach the republicans a lesson does only one thing.

TEACHES THEM THE WRONG LESSON.

Look what happened in the 2006 election. Not voting republican got us Nancy and Harry and 4:00 gasoline.

Well, here is a new catch for everyone. What percentage of Christian Conservatives call themselves Mormon? Is is possible that the Mormon bloc of the Chrisian Conservatives are spliting their loyalty in ways the Conservatives are unable to trace? Perhaps, the Mormon bloc is a larger percentage of the Christian Conservatives then anyone realized. It will be hard to see just how influential the Christian voting bloc is without the Mormons!

Romney is a minus 8 choice for McCain. Huckabee won't be the choice either. Mormons and Evangelicals should find a way to come together in 2012. The GOP can't win without their votes.

I think you will find that this Evangelical distrust position is overstated. Texas, for example, was expected to vote for Romney over Huckabee in the primaries, had Romney not dropped out, and Mormons, who are scattered throughout the country, will vote in numbers far exceeding those who withhold their vote in religiously bigoted protest.

There are areas of the country with more rabid preachers, seeking to inoculate their parishioners against a faith they don't understand, but I am proud of the attitude I see among most evangelicals, that Mormons can be and probably are Christians, too.

Christ is our common bond.

Mormons may believe that Christ is a separate being from God the Father, as is the Holy Ghost, but that doesn't make them any less Christian. The primary difference in doctrine is that Mormons do not buy into the Nicene creed adopted by the Catholic church in the 400 AD period (and carried on in Protestant aka Evangelical churches) that says God is unknowable, without body, parts or passions, etc, believing instead that God absolutely may be known, that he does literally hear and answer prayers, and that he has a more perfect, "resurrected", glorified, and immortal body. Mormons have an empowering view of their relationship to God that strengthens their faith in Christ and their family ties, and gives them hope that they can be together forever as families with Christ.

If anything, that is less weird than 4th century AD notions of God that seem to conflict with the Bible. For example, Steven, in a vision, saw Jesus standing on the "right hand of God." Others witnessed the Holy Ghost appearing in the form of a dove when Christ was clearly in the water being baptized and the voice of the Father coming from Heaven, witnessing, "This is my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased."

In my view, there is room for both old and new perspectives in America and in the Presidency, and you can't disprove Mormonism any more than Protestantism or Catholicism. Anyone who tries is using cheap parlor tricks, circular logic or lies, and I've seen them all. Let us learn to respect one another as neighbors and friends in a country founded on the principles of diversity for a reason, and God bless us, every one.

I spent 15 years in a holiness Christain church- I don't believe one thing that the Mormon church teaches, but as a conservative voter- there is no better VP choice than Mitt Romney. I have no fear that he is going to try to convince me or any other American to convert or make mormonism a part of the federal government. I, like other humans, sometimes use common sense - He is a fine man, he has taken care of his family, and achieved great things in the business world. He is more qualified than any other of the VP picks AT THIS TIME given our current economic circumstances. I would vote that ticket in a heartbeat and hope that McCain allows his ego to listen to the business wisdom that Mitt has to offer.

you are all stupid! Get a life!