Two ads, two views of Iraq war

Two nominally independent advocacy groups are out with new TV ads that support the stands of their favored presidential contender on the Iraq war.

Vets for Freedom has an ad that argues that the so-called surge of troops -- championed by Republican John McCain -- has tamped down violence, stabilized the country, and should continue.

"Some in Washington told us the war was lost. Others said the surge would fail. But while they argued, we continued to fight,” a series of veterans, male and female, say on camera. “Today, even the harshest critics agree, the surge worked.”

"We need to finish the job, no matter who is president,” they conclude.

MoveOn.org, the antiwar group, rebuts with an ad arguing that Americans and Iraqis alike are demanding a timetable for the withdrawal of US troops. Democrat Barack Obama is calling for pulling out most combat troops within 16 months of taking office.

"John McCain doesn't want a timetable," the announcer says. "John McCain, it's time to end the war and move on."