McCain and Obama will talk faith
The first sort-of joint appearance of Barack Obama and John McCain will be in a Southern California megachurch where they will be expected to talk about their personal faith.
Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church in Orange County and best-selling author of "The Purpose Driven Life," will interview the presidential hopefuls for an hour each, back to back Saturday night in a forum that will be broadcast live from 8 to 10 p.m. EDT on CNN, Fox News Channel, and MSNBC.
Warren made the rounds of the morning shows today to promote the forum. In an interview with David Brody of the Christian Broadcasting Network, Warren said, "I'm going to ask them questions about character, competence, about values, vision, virtue, about their convictions in leadership, about their experience. And I’m going to deal with their personal life – because character matters. Their personal life does matter as a leader. God says so."
In advance of the forum, the Chicago Tribune today published a lengthy interview with McCain about his faith, including a previously undisclosed account of him rioting against his North Vietnamese captors so the prisoners of war could hold Sunday church services.
"McCain talked about how his faith was tested during his years as a prisoner of war from 1967 to 1973, said God must have had a plan for him to have kept him alive, and reminisced about his appointment as informal chaplain to his cellmates," the Tribune reports.
McCain, who was brought up Episcopalian but now worships at a Southern Baptist church in Phoenix, also said his faith in God informs his decisions on issues of public policy, including abortion.
Obama became a Christian as an adult, but during the campaign left his church home, Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, after repudiating the former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., over explosive remarks from the pulpit about race and the US government.
UPDATE: A group of Christian leaders supporting Obama, called the Matthew 25 Network, plan to run a TV ad during the forum that says one way to judge a candidate is by how they treat their family.
The ad, unveiled today, features a series of pastors talking about Obama's 16-year marriage to Michelle and their two daughters, and suggesting that Obama's family life would translate to a presidency.
While the spot does not mention McCain, left unsaid is that McCain is divorced and has acknowledged infidelity.
His campaign hit back strongly. "These smears on John McCain's character and faith expose the utter hypocrisy of Barack Obama's claim to represent a new kind of politics,'' spokesman Brian Rogers told the Chicago Tribune today. "It's disgraceful. The American people know that John McCain's faith and character were tested and forged in ways few can fathom."



Where does Obama attend church?
Rick Warren stated that a man cannot be president if he fails to honor the commitment and vow he made to his wife. What does he then think when he realizes that John McCain admitted to an extra marital affair while his first wife was in the hospital after being involved in a vehicle accident.
Where do those bible thumping evangelicals stand on that issue?
I'm a Combat Veteran of the Gulf War and Somalia conflict. And I'll have you know that in those day's we (U.S. Citizens) were well received throughout the world. After the war, in every port we entered the people would welcome us. Now people cringe when they find out that you're an American. I guess what I'm trying to say is, these 2 gentlemen (McCain and Obama) can say all they want but, it comes down to this. Do they have Integrity, Humility, Wisdom and Strength? We need to pray as a nation...
WHY is (Christian,) faith so god awful important! It seems that they are the only one that matters, want to take over the world and the first ones to WHINE when someone questions their methods.!!! GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!
what was Obama before he became christian, muslim?
How does McCain combine his faith and love for God with being at war for another 10 years? Will Obama or McCain bring God back to school? Look at the escalating violence in schools since prayer was deemed not needed!
Will the preacher be asking about John McCain's infidelity as much as he will pose questions about Rev. Wrigt????
The only relevant question about religion for any politician is whether it will affect any of their political decisions. Have we forgotten the importance of separation of church and state?
Why does it matter?
Yes, God must have had a plan for McCain to keep him alive.....why he was there in the first place must have been part of Gods plan to. Just like losing the election is part of the plan....
Why in 2008 does it matter how and why our leaders worships a magic man in the sky.
Why do these political organizations masqurading as churches continue to enjoy tax free status?
Lets put an end to this misrepresentation of corporations with political agendas disguising themselves as churches.
Evangelicals are not christians. They don't act like or subcribe to the teachings of the Messiah. Their faith lies in guns, murder, and money, not in God or his son.
And, please for the love of God, stop associating the noun "evangelical" with the name of the Messiah by using it as an adjective.
The noun 'evangelical' describes a person or persons who subcribe and promote a political and economic agenda that is decidedly unchristian. The wrap their program in a false religious coat and masquerade as church to aviod taxes and accumulate wealth for thier leaders. Their are an instrument of the right and have their root in southern slave owners, the KKK and modern day facism.
If we continue to give voice to these fanatical, paranoid groups they will lead us into a new form of nazism in the U. S. They are the new Joe McCarthys wrapped in religion.
He hasn't had time to visit and consider joining a new church since he left Trinity and has been compaigning. His previous membership was in a mainline protestant church. Seems likely he would seek another mainline Protestant church home.
Most likely his wife and children will be a large factor in where they decide to attend church on an ongoing basis once he is elected.
NONESENCE, GOD HAS NEVER MADE COMMENT RELATING TO THE PERSONAL LIFE OF EITHER JOHN MCCAIN OR BARACK OBAMA. IS RICH WARREN TRYING TO TELL US THAT HE HAS HAD THIS SORT OF DISCUSSION WITH GOD?
Finally, somebody is going to be asking the right questions.
This is a great opportunity for the truth of each candidate to be revealed - and it won't come so much from what he says, but how each man says what he says.
We all need to watch this interview - not only with our eyes and minds, but with our hearts and spirits. That way, we can use God's guidance to reveal the truth within ourselves, rather than having our opinions formed for us by others.
I wish they wouldn't pander to these psychotic evangelicals.
Why is faith so important? What does it matter what political candidates believe in as long as they do a good job. In fact, religion and state should be separated. That is what the forefathers of this country proclaimed. People like Thomas Jefferson, who was quite secular in his way of thinking, made the laws of this country. These laws have stood the test of time, and they continue to be useful.
Basically, I don't want another president who thinks that just by meditating he can come up with the answers and the policy to rule the most powerful country on earth. This way of thinking will end up killing the US and will seriously harm the entire world.
Faith should not be a factor on the elections for any political position.
What time, including time zone, is this interivew and what channel?
What does where Obama attends church have to do with his run for the presidency? If we had no organized religions, this country and the world would be a safer place to live.
Whatever happened to separation of church and state? Our Founding Fathers must be rolling in their graves.
I hope McCain's asked questions about why he cheated on his disabled wife and the divorced her to marry a rich beer heiress. I can't wait to watch him squirm.
How big of an ego do you need to have to think that God (THE God) has a plan for you? I am sick of lunatics running for office in this great country of ours. Can't we have normal humble folks running this country? Someone that does not think the world revolves around him/her? Our political discourse is seriously screwed up if one of the conditions for participating in it is that you have some kind of blind faith. Both McCain and Obama fail on that account. Why does politics always come down to choosing the lesser of two evils?
Signed: Politically Frustrated
Presidential candidates should not talk about faith. There is supposed to be a serparation of Church and State. I don't want someone's religion to affect how they run this country.
If God cared so much about personal character, David would not have been a king.
I hope my tax dollars aren't paying for this! I'm an agnostic / atheist and my vote should be worth as much as any Christian's vote. I want to know their opinions on how we can fix this mess of a country the Bush regime is leaving us! Which invisible being they talk to is a matter of their own business and has no place in the politcal spectrum.
A follow-up question for "Sam": "Does McCain attend church?" (and I mean, "ever?"...)
In contrast to all the attention and circumspection that has been levelled at Obama's deeply-held Christian beliefs, we have the "pass" the John McCain continues to enjoy. On top of that, this past week we've seen Senator McCain's cynical launch of his "The One" ad, complete with insinuation of the antichrist into the lexicon of this campaign.
What is true (and has been for some time already) is that Senator McCain is willing to do or say ANYTHING that he thinks will help garner some more votes - even to the point of denying taking contrary positions in the past. I'm fairly certain we can look forward to even more cynical commentary from the "good Senator from Arizona" as he "bares his soul" in the conversation about faith this coming weekend.
I find it interesting how many people that comment here seem to be against faith and religion. So many people seem to know so little of history these days and have things so backwards. The founding fathers of our country were very religous. That is why we came to this country for freedom of religion. The media often missrepresent that term, separation of church and state. The reasoning then was that they did not want the government to interfere with churches. It was to protect the churches not the government. That was what we had just gotten free from in England where no one had freedom of religion. Our founding fathers like, Thomas Jefferson were very religious and faithful people. This is what our country was created on and by. That is why our money says "in God we trust" on it. The notion that faith would destroy this country is totally backwards. It was faith that created it.
Obama needs to be asked whether or not he embraces Black Liberation Theology his pastor, Rev Wright kept refering to when questioned about his anti-American rants. Do some research folks. Look up James Cone, idolized by the Rev. Wright, and read exactly how he viewed the Black /White issue.
The founding fathers were all religous men who felt that christian values were so impoprtant it is what help them write the constutution of the United states. The seperation of church and state did not mean that the candidates can not use these values to shape their decisions. Tested over time, the christian values, not the "religion" is what has made america so graet. We are now testing relativism in which there is no consensus leading to "tolerance" and "diversity" which will destroy our families and our nation. Yes, I believe in a supreme force and over time the truth of this force has been translated by humans to know what keeps us on a content path through our lives. Why should I trust the loudest consesus on what is right for a society based on their current relative ideas? Do we all feel that our sexual diversity for example has moved our society forward? (maybe it has enhanced our fashion style.....) The God of our unervise has given humans free will so that we may appreciate "his" will when we find it, which I encourage all to do! Even if it is the antithesis to our self gratifing but tempory happiness we find in the material and sexual things in our existance.
Let them do what they need to do and let's move on, only time will show their character whoever becomes president. We all fall short and make mistakes so nobody has a right to complain about another faults. The problem our nation has is that we are a very unforgiving nation as the media shows everyday. We dig up the dirt on somebody and keep piling it on. It's time to move on already and fix the wrongs we all committed and forgive. Jesus said to the crowd as they were about to stone the woman who committed adultry, "he who has not sinned can throw the first stone" Nobody did...Only God knows our hearts individually and that is what is important. There is no harm in talking about faith, remember our faith is to be shared and not hidden...Pray...
I too hope that my tax $$ is not paying for this!! Quite frankly, I think we all need to stop playing the blame game. It is not Bush's fault that our country is in the mess it is in right now any more than it is Clinton's fault, or Reagan's fault. Are we forgetting that the president is just ONE man, and that congress and other politicians are just as responsible. I think the entire system is failing...
and no, religion should have absolutely NOTHING to do with who leads our country. Our country is a melting pot of many cultures and religions. Our money says "IN GOD WE TRUST", but it doesn't say the CHRISTIAN God. Separation of church and state, before we start another witch hunt...
Why is Rick Warren a pastor of a church getting involved in politics? Is it not a pastors job to only preach God's Word?
How can a man like Obama who supports abortion at any time in a baby's life call himself a Christian?
I read one of Obama's statments that he belives all religions will get a person to heaven. He also stated that his mother who passed away 13 years ago is now in heaven even though she was an agnostic, refusing the gosple of Jesus Christ who died for our sins. What kind of belief system is that?
Where does Obama attend church now?
McCain certainly identifies himself as "christian" (all republicans do), but his personality traits, world-view, and policies clash with his religious affiliation. "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" and "Social Security is a disgrace" don't exactly reek of moral values.
Who cares! As Bill Maher once said "I'd rather have a leader of doubt than a leader of faith". It makes me cringe that the people who run this country take the Bible literally.
It is not what they say but what they do and are more likely to do that concerns me.
The endorsement of negative adds tends to show a lack of faith rather than the ability to be a favorable world leader.
It's worth noting that McCain switched from moderately-liberal Episcopalian to Southern Baptist only in September of 2007, as part of the ramp-up to his presidential run. He is essentially a member of the North Phoenix Baptist Church in name (and checkbook) only: He has never been baptized (which is a pretty deal for us Baptists) and never attends. While as a Baptist I support his profession of sharing our beliefs, I'm saddened that a politian would so blatently use a conversion of faith to help him win an election.
does McOld still wear his white hood to church?
this old fossil voted against the MLK holiday
NONESENCE, GOD HAS NEVER MADE COMMENT RELATING TO THE PERSONAL LIFE OF EITHER JOHN MCCAIN OR BARACK OBAMA. IS RICH WARREN TRYING TO TELL US THAT HE HAS HAD THIS SORT OF DISCUSSION WITH GOD?
does McOld still wear his white hood to church?
this old fossil voted against the MLK holiday
Yes good question Sam. I respect that Obama left Wright's church, because that shows good moral character and an understanding of what Jesus meant when he sent the Apostles out to start churches. However, if that is where he stopped and did not move to a church where he is a regular member that is a good Bible preaching church, then his acts of leaving the other church are a moot point.
I THOUGHT CHURCH AND STATE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SEPARATE
Just what America doesn't need, a bunch of christians trying to prove to each other how wonderfully more christian they are than the next christian. With the all the pressing matters facing our country, I can't think of anything less important than this.
What a crock. Another scripted Question & Answer infotainment program. Hint: nobody cares about McCain's or Obama's religion. Faith is personal. Only crazies and people who need to get a life are interested in this. Have the candidates talk about their plans for ending the war, America's slow-motion depression, cleaning up corruption in gov't, and national healthcare. You know, real things that matter for people who work for a living & who don't live in their heads about the next life.
There was an excellent article on drudgereport this morning about Obama's partial birth abortion record... I hope Rick Warren asks the hard questions, because anyone who supports the practice of healthy babies being killed while coming out of the birth canal does not understand the principles of the Bible including the sanctity of life.
Where does the constitution say that there is a religious test? Suprise! It doesn't. Why don't we ask them how they feel about the tooth fairy or the Loch Ness monster as well? All relevant subjects since we are entering the world of make believe.
Just what America doesn't need, a bunch of christians trying to prove to each other how wonderfully more christian they are than the next christian. With the all the pressing matters facing our country, I can't think of anything less important.
I have recently seen footage of McCain dropping the F-bomb and various other four letter words on variuos occassions. How can a person of true faith be so cavalier about the use of such language? These outbursts raise questions about his self control and who is truly is.
Our leaders' faith is irrelevant. Show me what they can do for our country, I don't care what they do on Sundays!
Obama needs to be asked whether or not he embraces Black Liberation Theology his pastor, Rev Wright kept refering to when questioned about his anti-American rants. Do some research folks. Look up James Cone, idolized by the Rev. Wright, and read exactly how he viewed the Black /White issue.
McCain says he a Baptist, but the Baptist Covenant you take when you join says that you will "abstain from the use and sale of alcohol as a beverage..."
How does McHypocrite reconcile his faith with his wifes business of "pushing" alcohol?? Is that a family value??!!
More crap from the repub.
The Constitution does not have separation of church and state. It says no one can prohibit the free exercise of religion. Believers do not have blind faith. The word of God has proven itself to be true to them personally, in current events and in history. Religion is important because God created this world, science confirms the order of creation as the Bible states. In the creation He has set things to work according to laws. Obey the laws and be blessed, disobey and suffer curses. Leviticus 26.
A leader who does not know or ignors the laws of the creation are playing a guessing game with their opinions and those of their advisors. Evidence is that the world is being destroyed by the intellectuals who know not the ways of God.
Neither candidate has shown understanding. One law is to “love your enemy;” that disarms them, and gives them no authority to harm you. Laws of God are profound: “that which you fear shall come upon you.” We fear this nation will get control of oil; so we do things that provoke aggression or arms race. Another law: “that which you sow, you shall reap” that law goes hand in hand with: “do unto others as you would have them do unto you” (because it will be done unto you again). We give arms to other nations to protect them from enemies (We have sown the use of military arms for a conflict; there will be a conflict.)
Churches are tax-free because they help people with money donated. It saves the cost of government middlemen.
Evangelicals definitely believe in the Messiah. Their primary focus is in sharing His word and warning of his second coming and the destructions and separation that will come.
God has easy solutions to world problems we created by ignoring His wisdom. The goal in life is not employment; the goal is a retirement lifestyle in a garden paradise that we can create. Employment creates bondage, stress, separation of families, pollution, energy crisis, food crisis, poverty, inequality, global warming, welfare programs, immigration, disease etc. and it is only by turning to God’s wisdom that the problems can be solved. The retirement garden lifestyle is the quick solution to all the problems at the same time. That is the power of God, and His wisdom to save us from our own thinking. That is why the questions on the faith are important.
Why is Rick Warren a pastor of a church getting involved in politics? Is it not a pastors job to only preach God's Word?
How can a man like Obama who supports abortion at any time in a baby's life call himself a Christian?
I read one of Obama's statments that he belives all religions will get a person to heaven. He also stated that his mother who passed away 13 years ago is now in heaven even though she was an agnostic, refusing the gosple of Jesus Christ who died for our sins. What kind of belief system is that?
Why is Rick Warren a pastor of a church getting involved in politics? Is it not a pastors job to only preach God's Word?
How can a man like Obama who supports abortion at any time in a baby's life call himself a Christian?
I read one of Obama's statments that he belives all religions will get a person to heaven. He also stated that his mother who passed away 13 years ago is now in heaven even though she was an agnostic, refusing the gosple of Jesus Christ who died for our sins. What kind of belief system is that?
ASK THIS
1) If abortion is illegal, what is the criminal penalty for the doctor who is paid to do it and what is the criminal penalty for the woman who pays him.
2) Is Darwin's theory unproven and should other "Theories" such as "intellegent design" or Budist or Moslem or Wicken beliefs about origin be taught is public school. Are the intellegent designers who claim dinosaurs and people co-existed correct? Is God smart enough - powerful enough - to create evolution?
3) Should law breaking public officials, no matter how high up, be prosecuted - especially by a new administration.
4) Was it worth tens of thousands of lives and 500Billion enough to pay for Saddam's head?
5) If we invested a tenth of this in Afganastan in stead, would Osama still be alive?
Faith and religion are two very different things. It's possible to have a strong personal faith (even as an agnostic or atheist) which includes a sense of ethics, an adherence to an essential code of "do unto others," and a recognition of imperatives larger than oneself. In contrast, "religion" has more to do with destructive group identities and unquestioned social rules, and for this reason is so easily exploited by power brokers who themselves have very little true sense of faith or ethics. It's "religion" that's destroying American life (and other war-plagued societies around the world), not faith. We DO need to hear about Obama's and McCain's personal views on both faith and "religion." If Rick Warren is the only person with the standing and the nerve to bring them to TV, it's better than nothing. (Also, it would be nice of some of the more vicious posters here asked themselves whether their rhetoric came from a place of faith or "religion" ....)
Henry Meyer have you ever stole, had sex outside of marriage, lied are you a Christian.
I don't understand why there are so many people against religion? Religion is important factor, with being a president. America was founded upon religion therefore is exceedly important, as to what you believe.
Despite one's political inclinations, I cannot believe any Bible believing Christian can vote for John McCain. Why? He is a divorced man who left his first wife and three children for his rich trophy wife. He divorced and remarried in a matter of months, and later admitted he did not behave honorably. He and his first wife were very good friends of Nancy and Ronald Regan, who were shocked at his behavior and stopped socializing with him. When Our Lord was on the Earth, he had a LOT to say about divorce, which most modern Christians ignore, while they are strongly against abortion and homosexuality, of which Our Lord said nothing. How can we vote for a man living in unrepented sin?
What other Christian values will he ignore as President?
I respect other people's right to choose their own faith. It is very clear that when we were created, yes created as I believe it, we were given freewill by God. I will always respect others right to faith and religion. But I feel it is very clear in the bible that Jesus "is" the way, the truth, and the life, only through Him can you be saved. I have always felt that if I believe that another faith will get someone to "heaven" it will completely undermine my faith in Christ. That is why I share the love of Christ and his message with others. Share, not force or coerce. With this belief, I cannot also stand idly by while life becomes less and less respected, particularly with abortion. I believe there is such a thing as respecting other faiths, but beyond church and state when infringements are made upon people's right to life, we are asking for trouble. I know their are details with abortion like incest, rape, and the life of the mother. But when did two wrongs make a right? We live in a world that was separated from God in the beginning which leads to all these conflicts and issues. But I think it is a sad commentary in our political world when we are voting for politicians, who at one time or another, have had to abandon their beliefs about life and justice in the world, to advance in their career.
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