McCain hits Obama over Georgia remark

Uh, The McCain campaign needs to get their stuff straight. How is what we did in Iraq "Liberation" while what Russia did was "invasion"?

I'm all for supporting Georgia, but where is the difference?

Is it because Georgia is a democratically elected government? Well, in that case why aren't we invading a few dozen non-democratic nations out there? Myanmar isn't exactly a democratic nation, why aren't we banging down their doors to "liberate" them? You think the Chinese get to elect who they want? Ha! Who's allowed to run is heavily dictated by that government.

So if we invaded Iraq for democracy, then we must be a crappy country for already giving up on that crusade. If we didn't do it for democracy, then why? Wasn't security reasons as people once thought, as we are now finding out that we had no solid intelligence that they were doing anything or linked to any terrorists.

Hindsight's 20/20, but from what we've been hearing we jumped into Iraq with evidence so bad a US judge would have laughed at a prosecutor trying to charge someone on it.

McCain, I still don't see the difference. I must be an ignorant fool, please grace me with your experience and knoweldge and define the difference.

The Georgians invaded South Ossetia and Russia came to their defense. That was a major screw-up by Georgia and one for John McCain, when he decided unilaterally to come to the aid of the Georgians after this remark from President Saakashvili:

"Yesterday I heard Senator McCain say we are all Georgians. Well very nice ... but of course it's time to pass from words to deeds."

What the media neglected to report was that Randy Scheunemann, a top McCain adviser, was a paid lobbyist for Georgia to the tune of $800,000. With that kind of money in the lurch of course Saakashvili wanted action. For McCain to try to turn the tables and point to Russia as the aggressor is asinine and inaccurate. Not to mention the extremely poor judgment he exercised in doing so by sending Lieberman and Graham to Georgia BEFORE the arrival of the actual diplomatic channels of this country via the State Department and Condoleeza Rice. What business did they have circumventing actual, official U.S. Government policy? That was very dangerous. Russia could respond with sickening swiftness and endanger many American interests abroad easily, and the rhetoric on the Russian side was understandably bellicose as a result. The broader question the media fails to ask is why does John McCain think that trying to reinstitute the Cold War is a good thing? Note also that McCain and his surrogate Joe Lieberman have gone on record as saying they want to kick Russia out of the G8 as punishment.

How does McCain's response square up to the facts on the ground? It doesn't. He's a very dangerous man indeed.

McSame is living in a dream world. The main stream media bombards the American sheeple with nonsense that all of our invasions, incursions, CIA black operations are carried out for the good for the good of others. Allen Greenspan said it bluntly, we are in Iraq for the oil. We illegally invaded, we tortured, the administration fought for the right to continue with torture.

The American military is an arm of the Great American Corpocracy.

Larry - I can help clarify. Iraq violated 7 (maybe more - I since have lost track) UN resolutions to allow UN inspectors to properly do their job. How many UN resolutions did Georgia violate before Russia took it upon themselves to invade? I think the answer is zero. How many UN Coalition forces were there with Russia during the invasion? Again, the answer is zero.

Stilton - The 2 provinces that Georgia "attacked" are part of Georgia! How can they invvade themselves? The 2 provinces are struggling for independence - but isn't that an issue for Georgia to work out? Russia had to ahve been planning this invasion for weeks if not months. They used the unrest in the 2 provinces as an excuse to invade.

I hate the mindless pro-war "patriotism" these guys come up with, as if ever admitting to one of the myriad wrongdoings of the American military is tantamount to treason. Stubbornly refusing to acknowledge the horrific decline of your country isn't patriotic, it's merely selfish. McCain's constant harping about "victory" is the same bs.. we already LOST in Iraq, end of story. US "victory" in Iraq, regardless of how impossible it is at this point, doesn't improve things here or there or anywhere else. It only gives aged, gun-happy simpletons like McCain another point on their war room scoreboard, the only way these confused, McCarthyist military fetishists can come to grips with the modern world.

"Why we are the greatest country in the world", and as such we can do anything we dam well please". George W thinks this way; John McCain thinks this way; and so do the people who support this as a way of making BILLIONS, while our country slides into the toilet, our troops die and get maimed, and our infrastructure awaits repair. We are in Iraq because "He" was selling oil under the table to France, Germany, and Russia (the only 3 nations who did not support our invasion) and cutting into the Bush family profits.

We supported a dictator in Iran until it’s people couldn’t take it any more; we sold weapons to Iraq while the were at war with Iran; we gave Afghanistan weapons when Russia was invading and then left them hanging; and now we have “Bought” the Iraq government to do our will. When will it end???

Wake Up! This is a neoconservative setup. Randy Scheunemann (Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, Project for the New American Century and one of the drafters of the 1998 Iraq Liberation Act that funded Ahmad Chalabi Iraq Lobby) is McCains foreign policy advisor and was a registered foreign agent for Georgia's Saakaashvili's government from 2004 until May 14, 2008. The latest Georgia border conflict began in April 2008. Here is what has happened the same neocons who fabricated the war in Iraq are back and have been paid to trigger a new cold war to benefit John McCain and the MSM is falling all over themselves to support it.

To Larry, Stilton, Jon, Spongekill, Ed, and Harris If you hate America so much why don't ya'll get the" h--- " out of here. This supposedly is your country how can you speak so ill of it. I believe you are not Americans but communist infiltrators why else would you say such hateful things about the United States of America. No wonder you support Osama-bama. If he is elected he will bring down this country and fast. Then you will truly have something to whine about.

Elena, You need to change your rant. If you read Thomas Frank's books "What's The Matter with Kansas" or "The Wrecking Crew" you would see that yours is the STANDARD shout of the backlash. PS don't go to we are elites, that is just another backlash shout

MCcain is crazy! He's created three different ads about Obama being a celebrity and it plays every ten minute to try to brainwash americans. McCain is so old he can't even lift his arms above his head! Usually presidents go into the white house with black hair and come out with gray hair. He's already gray AS MATER OF FACT HE'S SILVER and being a president is very stressfull we need a young vibrant,caring, understanding person like OBAMA TO GET THE JOB DONE!

WHY McCAIN WINS .....Watch as the Russian / US relations become more tense over Georgia as we head into the election. There will be more provocation orchestrated by NeoCons. Playing this FEAR card is all that McCain needs to continue to win this closely contested race.

Let's face it, we are stuck with an electorate that prefers to live in a fantasy world, voting against their own and USA's best interests time and time again.